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March 27, 2025 36 mins

Brooklyn’s own Nems—rapper, hustler, and Coney Island’s unofficial mayor—pulls up to share his raw, unfiltered story.

From battling addiction and running the streets to doing time, facing homelessness, and ultimately turning his life around by working for DSNY, Nems has lived it all. But through every struggle, music was his therapy, and for the last 20 years, he’s been grinding—dropping projects, pushing his FYL merch (starting from Instagram DMs!), and even trademarking his viral catchphrase, Bing-Bong.

Now signed to Paul Rosenberg and gearing up for tour, Nems reflects on his journey, his love for his Mami who never gave up on him, and what it really means to go from rock bottom to running the city. Tap in for an episode full of real talk, wild stories, and the undeniable energy of a true Brooklyn legend. Gorilla Nems in the building—Bing-Bong!

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Grass Come Again a podcast by Honey German.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Welcome Neams to the Grassiers Come Again Podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Thank you for having me. This is dope.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
How are you feeling today?

Speaker 1 (00:14):
I feel marvelous.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
Daylight Savings is coming, Spring is coming. Cone about to
be lit.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
I'm looking forward to it. I'm looking forward to it
mostly because I got a store out there now, so
when the summer comes, there's more people to buy stuff.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
You shoot the podcast outside.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
The store, absolutely when we can. Right now that they
got the block under construction, we got to fix that.
Yeah shouts then Actually I want to unshout corn Edison.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
They're dead right now.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
I can't curse, right, you can cass.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
This is the podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
You do whatever you mean, corn Edison, fuck your life.
Fix my block.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
The mayor of Booking, I mean the mayor of not
the whole Brooklyn, not the whole Brooklyn. Gorilla and ms yep,
fat Boy, Fat Boy America.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Sweetheart, America's Sweetheart?

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Where am I missing?

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Don't ever disrespect me? Bang Bong the most handsome Puerto
Rican man in New York City.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Okay, now you're dragging it none with the new album.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
I'm I'm really proud of it.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
New ave Will had me all over the place. I
even cried, good it's deeed. You go too far. I'm
gonna tell you that, right, Okay, you definitely go too far.
Sometimes I'm like, did he have to say that?

Speaker 3 (01:28):
What's a gun? Thro?

Speaker 1 (01:29):
A gun that is like a chicken head? Okay, because
that's a new word for it.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Is that what it is?

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Absolutely chicken had his plate down and you can't say
that no more.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
I felt the way when I was watching the video
and you were going back and forth.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Absolutely, that's the girl who actually said it too that
I used for the video.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
I said, I said, my heart right now, what is happening?

Speaker 1 (01:49):
That's a that's a that's a real toxic relationship right there.
Something we've all been through.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Was that a hardshaped pizza. I'm like, why did they
have a so when they're destroying each other?

Speaker 1 (02:00):
You know, I had to make it look right? It was.
The album came out on Valentine's Day, so everything was
you know, love Love, Love Vibe except the song exactly
Toxic Glove.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Definitely number eleven on the project Mona. That's deep.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yeah, I feel like when you do an album, you
have to touch all bases, and like I said in
the song God's Hands, it's like, you know, I woke
up this morning's how I felt. And that song was
actually inspired by somebody real close to me and that
you know, suffered the death of somebody very close to

(02:39):
them and they were going through it. And it hurts
when you and my mother went through depression and when
my cousins got killed. You know, like I went through
it for a little while. And it's just I wanted
to make a song to let people know that there's
there's you know, feelings are in facts. So the first
verse is like me going through it. The second verse
is like me getting through it.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yeah, no, I felt and I was like, you know what,
it humanized you in a way because with you it's
like so.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
Much jokes, absolutely laws he aw he gets straight to
the point and I was like wow. I was like
he got it in him.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
We're all human, we are, but you know, we get
so caught up in like social media videos people being
celebrities that we failed to realize that you too have demons.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
And for a long time, especially when I was doing
the battle rap thing, you were scared. I was scared
to be vulnerable, but as I matured and grew in life.
There's a strength and vulnerability we all go through. Why
did we love all this like DMX, Why did we
love all this like eminem and then just all this
that really put it all out there is because they
show vulnerability and there's a power in that, because everybody

(03:44):
goes through that.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
It is it's relatability. It's just like, oh shit, you're
just like me. Oh you were depressed, Oh you have anxiety.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
You know.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
The artist Jay Bobbin.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
I watched his I always liked his music, but then
I watched his documentary.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
He suffers from bad anxiety. He has depression.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Before he goes on stage, he has to meditate, and
I'm like, he's a regular ask person. Yeah he's a
superstar Colombia. I loves him, but he's regular. And then
after that I loved him even more.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
People forget that, you know, it's easy, especially with social
media and and just with celebrities, it's easy to forget
that they're just regular, normal people too. It's just like
me personally, I just had this dream since I'm a kid,
and I just wasn't willing to give up on it.
But I'm a normal person, like I go through it
like I go through feelings, just like everybody else. I

(04:34):
go through pains just like everybody else. And I wanted
to show.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
That on this album and you did just that.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Now I know you've battled with addiction absolutely, How did
you kick that? A lot of people don't make it
out of that. It just gets a hold of you,
and you know it. I know, especially here in New York.
You know, all of a sudden ode the other one
didn't make it. How did you get out of the
grasp of addiction?

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (05:00):
Help, somebody had to have help.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Well, my my, my mother big time, absolutely on percent
my uh you know, I come from My whole family
is drug addicts. But the flip side is my whole
family now is clean and they've been clean for years.
So so as soon as I was in my going
through my phase, they were there to help and give

(05:24):
me pointers and stuff. But you know, you can't stop
until you're ready. So I had to go through it.
For a good close to a decade. I was homeless.
I was going in and out of jail. I was
just like at the bottom. But the one thing that
I always had was this dream of music and and
and I knew that this was what I was meant
to do. Absolutely absolutely, because even even at my worst

(05:45):
points when I was homeless, I still was going to shows.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
And how did you end up homeless? Like what happened?

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Did you have a fight with mom? And Mom was
like you got to go out? Because that happens to
a lot of people, you.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Know, being in the grips of addiction. I had everybody
close to me. You know. At first I started off
doing gangster stuff, robbing people. Yeah, but then once you
go to jail and come home, it's like, I don't
want to go back to jail, and so you start
doing you know, you rob people close to you, and
then it just because it is convenient. And then it's

(06:17):
just like, you know, nobody wants you.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
A random he stole, he can't come back.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Now you're on your own. So now that that that's
when I started sleeping in projects staircases and the beach
in Coney Island, but in the winter time under the ballwalk.
You know what I'm saying that.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
He's definitely has a different type of meaning for.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
You, one hundred percent. And that's why I call myself
to mayor, because everybody in Coney Island. They've seen me
at that point, but they've also seen me at this point,
so they know that if I can make it from there,
anybody cut in. Plus, I'm like the first rapper with
a major label deal to really come out of Corny Island.
No rappers have ever come out of Coney Island like
a main rapper. The rest of Brooklyn and the rest

(06:57):
of New York City had it, but we never had it,
So I'm not first one.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
The deal you have now is with Paul Rosenberg.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Absolutely, so he's like I just I've seen him for
decades and decades and decades, Corney Island, Paul Rosenberg.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
How did we come together?

Speaker 1 (07:13):
He started following me on on Instagram, And I'm a
big believer is once you start following me, you're gonna
you're gonna mess with me because I'm not I don't
post personal style. It's all business. And I feel like
once you follow me, you see what I'm about. Like
a lot of people get caught up and be like, yo,
this guy is you know, ignorant or you know, they

(07:33):
think it's an act. They think it's an act. Like
me that don't have a disrespect over the top in
real life too.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
I can see how people can be like, oh, that's
got to be an act.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Yeah, nobody be so absolutely, But then when you meet
me in real life and you see that this is
really who I am, then you like, oh all right,
and you start to understand it a little different. So Rosenberg,
I met with him a couple of times. Then I
played them the album I drop last year, Rise of
the Solver Back, and I told him, I said, Yo,
already got another one in Marry the sweets in the stash,
you know. So once we dropped this and he was like, YO,

(08:03):
give me six months. I'll create a situation for us.
And he made it happen. He's a man of his word, absolutely, because.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
You know, there's a lot of bullshit in this and
he said, he said, give me six months, and.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
It happened, and it happened.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Absolutely some real shit right there. Do you really have
nineteen albums?

Speaker 1 (08:19):
No?

Speaker 3 (08:20):
Oh no, I went on.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
I was on, I don't know why it says that
it was so many albums this I have.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
I probably have nineteen projects, but I kind of them
are just mix tapes doing freestyles. But when it comes
to like albums albums, I think America's Sweetheart is like
either my fifth or my sixth. Okay, I was like,
I don't know why it says that on Google. It
also says that you go on helicopters and yachts and
all of that.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
And you know what it was.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
I went on iTunes music and I count and when
you go under albums, it has nineteen different projects.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yeah, so let's mix tapes. There's EPs, this is the
lab projects.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
Listen to projects.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, you started doing this twenty years ago.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Absolutely, early two thousands.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
Wrinkles just yet. But you're using on the face.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
I used just for men, but that's just that's for
my bed, you heard, But for the face, I let
the natural air of New York City just hit it.
That was crazy salt water.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
I'm helping you help.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
I don't use no product. I don't put nothe on
my face.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
And not even Coco butter nothing raw dog.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Now let's talk about the merch. The storm you came
up that you feel like you made mad bread off
of that.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
I made a decent amount. I made a nice living.
So so it started. I always knew that fuck your life.
Even if you don't want to buy a T shirt.
That says nem's on it. You might wear a T
shirt this is fucking life because somebody feels life is
every day. So what happened really was I started working
for Sanitation, the Department of Sanitation, New York City. So

(09:55):
absolutely so in the beginning, when I'm New York strongest, Yeah, great,
this job in the city.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
We're gonna get into that too.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Absolutely so. Basically in the beginning, I thought, you know
you hear, yo, six figures, you make a lot. In
the beginning, you ain't making nothing. So in the beginning,

(10:25):
I was like struggling. Yo, I live by myself, I
have a car, note, I got this. I can't make
it just off of this salary. So I was like, yeah,
I got to do another hustle. But now I got
a city job. I can't do nothing illegal, So I
was like, what can I do? I was like, I
got merch, put my logo on merches, sold out, the
next week, made to more sold out, and I just
kept going with it and keep kept going. And now
you know, the first year, I made like six figures

(10:47):
just off of DMS. I didn't even have a website.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Really, you were handling everything yourself.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Everything shipping myself, taking the orders myself, answering DMS myself.
And then when right when COVID happened, I made my website.
First month it made like ninety thousand, one hundred thousand,
and then I already had stuff in place. So when
bing Bong took off, I was off to the races

(11:13):
with that because I own bing Bong, I trademarked it. That's,
you know, good for you. So yeah, and then it
paul laid itself into the store on my block and
Coney Island sixteen twelve Mermaid.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
Avenue gotta pull up on you.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah, open seven days a week.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
I've driven by it, but I've always been like, should
I go win? Should I go in?

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Now? That's like, you know, Disneyland is not part of Flora,
It's like a sovereign nation. That's what my My block
on my con Cony Island might be dangerous.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
Oh I'm afraid of Coney Island. But if you pull
up good I go every year.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
All right, So now we got to see you at
the store. You gotta sign the wall and all of that.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
I'm gonna pull up on you. Yeah, absolutely, Now, bing Bong,
What's where did it start? When was the first time
that you set from the merchant.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
From the merch because I used to every weekend when
I dropped merch, I used to put everything out in
my living room and be like, Yo, this is the
new ship for this week. Bong check this bang bang bang.
And then one day, I don't know, I was just
in a good move. Maybe I woke up in a
good I don't know. I just started saying, Yo, check
this bing bong bang bong bang bong. People started laughing
and I was like, yo, I got something here, and
I just kept saying it. Then we started saying it

(12:14):
in Coney Island a lot, and then the side talked
kids was like, Yo, we want to come to Coney
isl do an episode with you guys, and uh, we
just started saying it during the episode and it just evolved.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
TikTok took it over.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
I was watching it was like the hashtag like bing
bong has like a billion impressions or something like that.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
It's been not even the hashtag. They used that voice
over again over a billion times. Wow, that's like an
eighth of the world. There's like eight billion people, right,
so an eighth of the world has said bing bong.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Now the videos that you do that don't have a disrespect,
they're hilarious.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
Are the people in on it? Or you just run
up home?

Speaker 1 (12:52):
Nah No, nobody's in on it?

Speaker 3 (12:53):
Are the people or what is it?

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Absolutely? I do it to everybody. Everybody gets it.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
You about to do it to me?

Speaker 1 (13:00):
We'll get you after this. Not on the episode, No,
not on the episode.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
All right, fine? Fine?

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Sometimes I could be out of you know, I don't
want to.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
You can be disrespectful me, but keepg be nice.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
No, we're not gonna do.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
It, all right, fine, fine, five, fine, Fine.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
I was getting ready to get roasted. Nah I got you,
got me off camera?

Speaker 1 (13:15):
I got you off camera, got you. But that just
came out of necessity as well. That's why I had
an album called Congo that was coming out in like
twenty nineteen, like right right when the big Bone stuff
was taking off. But I wasn't signed to nothing. I
was putting out independently, so I was like, I don't
gotta budget, Like what am I I'm going to promote
this album coming out? So I just like, y'all, let

(13:35):
the world at my fingertips with this phone. So I
just started messing with people while we were sitting outside
on the block, y'all, don't disrespect my album coming out
in seven days. The next day I grabbed the megaphone
and was like, y'all, don't disrespect my ALM in six days.
Kept doing it for the whole week. By the time
the album came out, they was like, Yo, we kind
of don't want your album to come out. We kind
of want you to keep doing these videos. And I
was like, I got signed here and I just kept

(13:57):
you know, so all this stuff comes. It just came
for Yeah. Yeah, yeah, And that's why people gravitate to
it because it's not an act. It's not something I'm
doing for cloud. It's just something that just came out
of the necessity of my life.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
When's acting coming for you? Because I feel like it must.
I didn't like it just feels real, like like you
would be good at it.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Absolutely. I did a play Master Ace is working on
like a Broadway play, and we did like like pre Productive.
We did like seven like seven shows or something, and
I was in it. I'm like one of the main characters.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
Do you like it?

Speaker 1 (14:29):
I loved it. It's a whole new respect for like
actors and the Thespian World. You know what I'm saying. Like,
I liked it a lot. It was cool, and there's
definitely something I want to get into more and more.
I've done a couple movies and stuff like that, but
like small, like I'm playing myself.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
Nah, I feel like you.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
I want to. I want to I want to cry,
I want to be I want to I want to
play a homo. Well, no, chill, chill.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
Why you have to drag it so far in them?

Speaker 1 (14:57):
I'm looking at his face. He's messing with me, man,
cut that out. I want to be a drug addict
or something.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
You had a little experience.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
Absolutely?

Speaker 3 (15:10):
Are your dad not yet? Are you a husband?

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Not yet?

Speaker 3 (15:14):
Are you working to being a husband?

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Absolutely? Okay, all right, absolutely, I'm working, you know. And
if I don't have a kid by the end of
this year, I'm just shooting every club up, leaving in
God's hands.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Stop being reckless, Please stop being reckless. Do you have
one special lady in your life? How hard is it? Like, huh,
how hard is it to like just pick one person?
You know, you're so popular.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
You know what it is? It's with me? Is I
keep my personal life personal? Yeah? I learned. I think
I seen. I think it was method man and his wife.
They were doing an issue like they don't really you know.
So they was like, yo, what what is the reason
that y'all think y'all stayed together so long? And it
was like, because we keep our personal life personal and

(15:58):
we don't talk about.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
It, so you can have a whole relationship and we
will not see it on social media.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Got it? That's how I wanted.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
Can she post you?

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Absolutely?

Speaker 3 (16:05):
Okay? Because I would feel a way, But like I can't.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
If I did have somebody, they probably wouldn't have Instagram.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Who doesn't have Instagram?

Speaker 1 (16:13):
This girl's out there that don't have it.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
Oh no, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
We didn't. I don't know anyway, not saying not saying
they can't or I wouldn't allow them. I'm just saying like, because.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
I would feel away, I but like I want people
to know where together.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
I have no problem with that.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
What do you think about New York girls?

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (16:33):
I love them?

Speaker 2 (16:34):
That's what I do. I love New York girls, latinas morenas.
What's your preference or do you not have one?

Speaker 1 (16:41):
I love all women. I'm a I love women.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
Fat boys said I like all flavors.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Absolutely, but I love my biquas always. You know what
I'm saying. Women from Puerto Rico the most beautiful woman.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
And do you go back to Puerto Rico?

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Absolutely, I've been there like in my life, probably like
twenty times. But yeah, I got family and Minati got
Aleino and you know, I got a family all over.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
What's vibes when you go to Perto Rico?

Speaker 1 (17:06):
It feels like I'm in the Motherland.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
What do you do when you go to Puerto Rico?

Speaker 1 (17:09):
I just chilling, relaxed. Yeah, I don't. I'm not a party.
I don't drink, I don't smoke, I don't do nothing.
I do. I eat. I'm not really a beast guy.
I got a pool in my backyard. I'll be chilling.
My family got pools. Yeah, I'm boogie now.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
But the pool is just like such a vibe, especially
when you go back the boat crash boat beach.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
Yeah, I like that beach. I'll be going there doing
the tourist stuff. Come on, yeah, I like, what's the
waterfall of junking?

Speaker 3 (17:35):
You being a junker with your water shoes. You can't
go barefoot up there.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
If I've brought dog. I told you I've brought dog everything.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
No no now ds and why mm hmm. Who allowed
you to shoot a video?

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Nobody. I got suspended for thirty days for that thirty
day rip for that. Yeah, that was the first of
thirty days I got. Like in my career, my eight
and a half years spanning Santite, I probably got three
to four thirty days suspensions.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
You would have never retired from that place.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Nah, never, never. I always knew though when I started,
I was like, this is plan B.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
Who told you to take the test?

Speaker 1 (18:13):
My mother, when I came home from jail, what she said,
She said, Yo, your parole to my house. You have
to take the test or you gotta get off, or
I'm gonna tell your parole you can't stay here no more.
And I said, y'all don't want to take this test.
I took it. She made me take it. I was high.
I was high as hell, like I couldn't like, I
couldn't like. I was gnawing and while taking the test,
and I still got one hundred.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
Oh you're smart, and then you started working.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
So they called me six years later because there was
a freeze when I took the test, So they called
me six years later when I took it. You know,
I forgot about it, and then I got cleaned. I
stopped doing drugs and stuff for like, I was already
clean for like four years, and they called me. I
was like, you know, this rapping ain't taken off like
I thought it was. I'm already you know, I'm getting older.

(18:58):
I gotta worry about my future. And uh. And I
took that. That the job, and it's the best thing
I did. Taught me how to be financially, you know.
Stable taught me a lot of things, how to build credit,
taught me about being responsible, you know. And I look
back a nine to five. I wouldn't have lasted but

(19:19):
that that job right there is just like you got
a lot of freedom, you got a good union.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yeah, because yeah, a lot of scoundrels in that fact,
y'all do whatever.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
Yeah, watch job.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
And that's why the guy. There's a lot of guys
that I was in my garage and just in general
b K three bedsty but it was in Bushwick, but
our district was bed sty. But a lot of guys
that from the garage and a lot of sanitation guys
I'm still cool with to this day, because I mean,
it's the only city job that really like highest feelings.

(19:49):
And I was a felon, you know, and it was
a great job and I looked back at it, but
you know, some things got to be fixed too, Like
my man pos right here?

Speaker 3 (20:11):
How did you Imposcan you worked in the same garage.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Now we didn't even work together.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
Okay, so you just lived close by.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Yeah, but he has like a year more than me
on the job, so he was like kind of putting
me on. I didn't know he had it. And then
our garage just played softball against each other and I
was like, yo, you're on the job and he was like, yeah,
you look up brotherhood right, yeah, absolutely big time.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
And then he's been having issues with d s n Y.
Correct exactly.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
I don't think. I think d S n Y. Yes,
But it's also the Nicers, the Nicers union. So NICER's
is like, what there who handles your pension? And there's
a thing in sanitation when I, even when I was there,
called the Heart bill, like, yo, no matter what happens
to you, if something goes wrong with your heart, we're
gonna take care of.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
You as they should.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
And something went wrong with my man pass is hard
and they're not taking care of him. Everything that I
thought that they was going to stand on, they're not
standing on. And the nicers, the you know, the department
of nicers. My man had two open heart surgeries nineteen
strokes because of the job. Not on the job, but
because of the job. And he can't work.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
At all, like you know, permanently disabled.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
He's funny, like his mind is still good, but physically, yeah,
he can't do nothing, none of that. And he's been
retired for how long now two years, and they still
haven't given them any They don't he's his medical is
cut off. They're not paying them. I don't know what's
going on. And he's been new. We try lawyers, lawyers
won't take his case.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
They don't want to go up against the city.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
Yeah, and you know, a lot is going on. And
the nicers, you know, they got to do the right thing.
The department that's heditation got to look out for their
own man. We put blood, sweat and tears into this job.
I know, I did for eight and a half years,
and I know positive for ten over ten years and
he's vested and should be retired. And then they're not
paying him at all, and they're not giving them you know,

(22:01):
he deserves three quarters. Not because he deserves it because
he's a good guy. No, because he worked his ass
off for ten years for the department and they supposed
to take care of their own and they're not doing it.
And then something's not right, and I've been trying. You know,
I was on Good Day in New York the other day.
I act they don't have like a help me out
that's like on a different channel. But I was like, Yo,
it's help me how it over here. They was like, Yo,
we don't do that, but.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
The station, but go ahead, tell us the story.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
And he was like, yo, you can send us his
story and you know, if our producers pick it up,
will air it and stuff like that. So I'm trying
to spread the word.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
I respect that about you that you're like, you know not,
We're just going to talk about it one time and
then I'm moving on from this. Like you are like
championing for him.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
You know, it takes my friend.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
It's like if I have a voice and I have.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
A mic and I'm going to get in front of
a television, I'm gonna advocate.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
For you one hundred percent. That's what we do.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
That's super dope of you.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
That's what we take care of each other. That's you know,
that's what real friends do. Possibly there you know, posss,
when tears, when I win. You know what I'm saying,
so that there's no reason I'm not going to stop
until he gets the right thing done for him. That's
what we do, man. Like. The people around me are
not yes man, the people around me are real people
that I've been with, you know, for a long time,

(23:08):
and you know I'm a grown man. I'm not like
you know. I'm blessed to not have gotten a record
deal when I was in my early twenties.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
You wouldn't have done the right thing.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
I would have been I'm probably would have been dead
all over the place, all over the I probably would
have ruined my career, been dead. I'm lucky to have
now gotten a success now when I'm older, because I
know what's what and I know who's who.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
God's timing is everything. Absolutely he wanted you to have it.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Now. Everything happens for a reason.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
How did you end up connected with God? Because you
know we're here, We're in New York, We're in Brooklyn,
You've been through a lot. You've got the tough exterior,
your rapper, the battle rapper. How did you end up
connecting with God when.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
You've been to the bottom. You know what I'm saying,
There's only one person helping and that's God. I don't
care what you choose to call them, whether you you know,
I don't care what, uh you know? Denomination you are
is God, no matter if you call them my law,
whether you call them God, you know, whatever, it's God.
There's only one regardless. And I just know when I

(24:09):
was at my toughest times, when I was at the bottom,
there was something helping me out. Like people don't make
it out of situations that I did. You know what
I'm saying, You don't be a heroinautic for eight years,
nine years and make it out. There's a lot of
people that died from that. You know what I'm saying.
I have friends that still tell me, like, yo, you
people don't make it out what you've been through.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
You're not supposed to be here.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Yeah, jails, institutions, death, you know what I'm saying, past too.
You know what I'm saying, been on the other side
and it came back. There's something out there that's that
wants us to win, and there's something out there that's
watching over us, and that's definitely God. And I'm just
I was thinking about it yesterday actually because it was
the first day of Ramadan. So I was like thinking
about I have two women that are very close to

(24:52):
me in my life that both of them are heavily
heavily prey heavily, And I was like, how lucky am
I that the two closest people to me pray every
day and pray for me to you know, I'm definitely
in their prayers.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
That's one of them.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
Absolutely. My mother is a church lady. You know what
I'm saying. My mother prays for me every day.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
Gladys, Gladys, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
So so there's a big reason why I'm winning is
because I have angels praying for me every day. And
I have my two cousins Ricky and take Over that
passed away. I know that they're up there and they
you know, I got like pas my crew, they got
my back in the in the in the physical world.
But I also got angels that got my back in
the in the unphysical world, in the spiritual world.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
Amen to them absolutely, and that's the reason you hear
right now, All praise be to the Almighty God. That
song God's hand yep in your project. I was like,
he's a different person. He's not who I thought he was.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
And that's why I made songs like that, because again
with the social media stuff, people could get mistrewed. If
you really knew my story, you had no problem with
me winning. You know what I'm saying. If I want
you to win, I'm not saying.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
You know what, New York is a collective wants you
to win.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
It's not even just Brooklyn, it's all.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Of us, because those are the people that seeing really
what I've been through, and they know, like we watched you.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
We've watched you the last six years, like have been
very much about you know, growth, seeing you elevate, and
even here in the building, we're likes.

Speaker 3 (26:27):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Even when we do events, invite thems, make Angie Barbecue,
can we invite them? Absolutely our house, can we invite Thems, Like,
it's just we want you there.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
We want you to win. And just know that you're one.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Of us Latinos pop New York.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
You're it.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Thank you all those things. Now, I can't let you
go without talking food. Absolutely, what's your preference?

Speaker 1 (26:49):
I'm not I'm a mad picky eater. I'm gonna keep
it real.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
Judge, don't judge.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
I'm fat. But y'all, I really don't all that pizza
and fast food that's all I eat.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
How is that picky eating? Listen used to picky eating?

Speaker 1 (27:03):
I got the palette of an eight year old.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
Obviously you're not a picky eating You know.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
I just eat. I don't even eat a lot. It's
just what I eat. I be eating. You know, my
schedules crazy, so I eat more like French fries, all
of that. But I eat pizza on a regular basis.
Pizzas like sex, even as bad as good. No, no, no,
still having sex.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
You like comfort food?

Speaker 1 (27:26):
I need to be comforted.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
I can't. Mom still cooks for you.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
She cooks rice and corned beef.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
What is it for Puerto Ricans and corn beef? Love
the Milligan and we never used shit.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
I love that ship, But as I got older, I
don't want the French fries in it. I like it
without the French fries.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
What about?

Speaker 2 (27:45):
My husband says his mom used to put the malutles
in it. No French fries.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
Yeah, we used to put the French fries in it,
but not no more. I like them without French fries.
Now is I could eat like a million to throners
every night.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
Pause, super poor, superpol It's not fried plants.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
It is whatever poors if applicable. You know what I'm saying.
I'm just working with you, and uh yeah, I'm just
a piggy eater, That's what. That's what I like. I
white rice and ketch up with an egg fried egg.
This is like a struggle struggle mall. Hell yeah, but
I love it.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
But you say I'm a piggy eater. I did not
think you were gonna give me this rundown of struggle foods.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
Struggle fools.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Big you know he got the second grade food, the
struggle food I might.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
I might open up a can of Chef boyard D later.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
Are you gonna warm it up?

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Absolutely? Who doesn't warm it up with my savage Listen
to me, Yo, if you eat Chef boy the first,
that's a man, that's the paws. But yo, if you
eat Chef boy l D without heating it up you're
a savage. They need to lock you underneath the jail.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
My grandma I discussed what was a gangster?

Speaker 1 (28:52):
That's Chris. Now?

Speaker 3 (28:58):
What are we doing right now? America? Sweetheart?

Speaker 1 (29:01):
Out right now, out now, and we just you know
Champion that album. I feel like it's one of my
best bodies of work.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
It's a solid project to bottom.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Absolutely yes. And I took you know, my last album
it was called Rise of the Silver Bag Me and
scram Jones that drop. That dropped in August of twenty
twenty three. So I took like a year and a
half to make this. Like, I didn't drop nothing. I
did like features and stuff for people, but other than that,
I really just I did like thirty forty songs for
this and just picked the best thirteen.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
And I love the way the placement was just perfect.
It just flowed nicely. And I consume albums in the
order that the artists put it together.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
As everybody should, and it just.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
It flowed nicely.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Thank you you.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
Hitting the road.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
Absolutely last year we did last year we did the
whole America.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
America. What does that mean?

Speaker 1 (29:49):
We did forty cities in fifty five days. We drove
in a sprint of Van one, shoot, three, four or
five seven of us And it was one of the
best times I had in my life.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
Joking, having fun.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
That's all we do is joke and laugh. And my
cousin had just gotten he was just home for like
a year and got off parole and it was like
his first time seeing that. My cousin loved it. He
loved it. Postles with us. He loved it. We had
a great, great time, and we skipped the whole winter
because we left. It was from January sixteenth to March.
You strategized, so we missed the whole winter. We was

(30:26):
in we and we've seen all dope stuff. I've always
wanted to see Alcatraz, Uh, Minneapolis. We was that. We
went to UH which was very powerful George Floyd where
he passed away. But that whole block is like shut
down now and it's like, oh de powerful, Like it
was like you felt it in your in your spirit.
But we we We've been everywhere. We saw Omaha, Nebraska, Houston.

(30:50):
We was at Treilberger with bun Be. Oh. Yeah, we
was in Dallas. So when Kennedy got killed, I like
stuff like that, like in the story a history, but
absolutely love that. So everywhere we went I googled, like cause,
like I said, I don't smoke, I don't drink Selma.
We didn't. We didn't go the bridge. No, we didn't
go we were we weren't in that area. But everywhere

(31:12):
we went, I would google, Yo, what's what was this
place known for? And you know, we would do the
show the next morning to wake up before we would
leave to the next city, we would go around and
to the baseball stadium, the football stadiums, and then also
whatever was happening in that in that area.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
I like you. I could travel with you.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
I hate people that don't be having a plan.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
No, no, no.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
If we're in a different country and we're in a
different city, I need to figure this out.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
So something funny. We went to Miami. I had to
handle something like last year, I bet you. So we
went for like a couple of days. So I was like, Paus,
come come through. So pass like, yeah, we're gonna hit
the beach. We're gonna do that, I said, Yo, I said, yo, pause,
I'm gonna tell you now, we're not even gonna see

(32:01):
a beach. We're gonna this is like we're working. You
know what I'm saying. He didn't know. He thought it
was like vacation. That's like the first time he was
coming to Miami with me. I was like, Yo, we
ain't gonna even see a beach. We're gonna be working.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
We didn't You went down to collab with someone?

Speaker 1 (32:15):
Yeah, I think I did. I think I did drink Champs.
I did. It was rolling loud at the time. Forget it.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
You can't did that.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
Yeah, there was. I had to do something with Monster,
like fifty years of hip hop thing with them.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
He was booked and busy.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
Yeah, absolutely, you know that's what that's That's the only
thing I don't. I don't go on vacations. I travel
for business.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
I guess. I guess where are you going with the tour?
Are you touring or what?

Speaker 1 (32:39):
You sure? Right now, we're in talks with Europe. I
don't know where it's it's specifically in Europe.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
Where do you want to go in Europe?

Speaker 1 (32:45):
I want to go to Ireland. Yeah, because I've been
to Scotland. I did shows in Scotland. I did shows
in Brussels, Belgium, Paris, all over France. Oh yeah, yeah, Amsterdam.
So I want to go to the places now that
I haven't been. And I'm Puerto Rican and I'm Irish.
So I've been to the motherland Puerto Rico mad time.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
But I wondering about the last name.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Yeah, yeah, don't blow me up.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
I'm not gonna well it's it's Google.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, what you say, I got a
mad white name. That's my Irish side.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
I said it, and I said Irish. I said Irish.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
My mother's one hundred percent Puerto Rican. My father was
one hundred.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
Percent Irish from Corney Island area.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
My father was from like flat Bush and Brooklyn. Yeah,
but my mother's from Corney Island.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
All right, So we're going to go to Ireland.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
I want to see Island. I've seen Scotland, so I
want to see Ireland. I want to see what. You know,
I don't really have family. Well, I don't know what
I got over there.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
You know what, you could do a whole lineage, you know,
because I know what I am and Irish.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
No, if you wanted to. You know, some people are like, oh,
and then my great grandmother.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
Is Yeah, I know what I am. I don't need
nobody to tell me. What I am. I know what
I am.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
Point taking? What about state Side? State Side going to
tour here?

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Absolutely be doing a show in Brooklyn when March twenty seventh.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
I don't know, just just google it.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Yeah no, just follow me on Instagram.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
Wear that in Brooklyn. Where do you know the venue
yet or not?

Speaker 1 (34:14):
I think at the Meadals some sparkle the Medals.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
We're gonna have to send some people pull up on
you well, absolutely good people names.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
I've been wanting to do this for a while at Power,
but it just made perfect sense now to do it
for the podcast because you know, it's grass has come
again through mik podcast Network, which belongs to iHeart, and
I'm just trying to create, you know, more visibility not
only for Latinos, but more for like who you wouldn't
know is a Latino? Absolutely need that and who you

(34:45):
were like, like, someone's listening to this right now and.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
They're like, yo names, you know, he's Moriqua. You know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
It's just like I feel like Latino that happens a
lot where people don't know. Let's say, so is Aldana Lioness,
she's Dominicana. A lot of people think she's African American,
and I'm like, shes us pop spokemenual.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
So it's just like I feel like a lot of
times we're Latinos, We're in the culture, we're in hip hop,
and a lot of people don't even know it.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
One hundred percent I agree, and we need more platforms
like this.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
I want you to know Grilla Nim's America, Sweetheart, fat Boy,
all that good ship. The mayor of Corney Island.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
Ye, absolutely absolutely. We were just looking at the wall
out there and we said, yo, look there's only one
Biqua up there, big Punk, and was like, yo, you're
the next one.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
Of course we got.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
When we get this new wallpaper up here, I'm like
and putting them, don't play with me. Don't play with me,
because that's one thing with me. I will advocate for
Latinos the music, whatever it is.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
If we get a.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
Song and a Latinos on it, it could be bad bunny,
whatever it is, but we're playing the whole song.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
Don't play with me.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
You know what I'm saying. Big shout out my program director.
She's very open to like taking my input. I'm the
music coordinator, and I'm like, we gotta go all the way.
We gotta let Annuel rock, we gotta let you know
or soon I rock. Like, don't do this to me,
because Latinos we're a majority. Absolutely here in New York.
We're a majority.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Belongs to us, and so does hip hop absolutely big time.
I'm glad you said that.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
That's another conversation for another day, but I really really
want to thank you for sitting down with me today.
And it's not gonna be the last time.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
Come again, boom exactly. Grassiers Come Again is a production
of Honey German Productions in partnership with Iheart's mic When
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