February 13, 2025 • 39 mins
In this episode, we sit down with Toronto’s own Smiley, the rapper with the fire flow who caught the attention of his idol, Drake, and turned his dreams into reality. Born to a Mexican mother and Haitian father, Smiley shares his journey from the streets of Toronto to signing with OVO, proving that manifestation is real.
He opens up about his troubled youth, hustling in the hood and the time he spent behind bars—lessons that shaped the artist he is today. Now a father, he talks about how his youth changed his perspective and why 2025 is his year to take over as a global superstar.
This episode is packed with laughter, wild stories, and gems about believing in yourself no matter the odds. Smiley’s come-up is proof that when you speak it into existence, anything is possible. Tap in!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Yes, Come Again a podcast by Honey German. Oh you
look like.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
You need the A C to be turned up right.
Welcome Smiley to the grasses. Come Again podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
You can take that sip back. He got a cup,
he's sipping. I was talking and he was going to
take a drink. How are you feeling today?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I'm feeling good. You know.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
How's New York treating you?
Speaker 4 (00:25):
I love New York always the second home to me,
you know, so every time in town, I just love it.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I want to know everything about you. I want to
start from the beginning. Mom and dad, I'm hearing your
Mexican in Haitian, right.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yes, Mom's Mexican, my dad's Haitian.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Make shout out to meicanos. He looks like me.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Seeks Spanish, okay.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Mom said, we're gonna teach your French.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
And you learn Spanish. Okay.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Does your mom speak Spanish?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
No she doesn't. Also she needs to learn too.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Born in Canada, Yeah okay.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
So yeah, my parents read Montreal and then you know
I was born over there when she was like six
hours away from Toronto. Drive and yeah, then we moved
to Toronto when I was a kid. And then yeah,
they ended up divorcing and make their separate ways.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Are you an only child?
Speaker 1 (01:17):
No?
Speaker 4 (01:18):
No, No, I have a sister, older sister, and yeah,
I have like three cousins. Are like we've grew up
together in the same house, so they're like my brothers,
you know.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
But you're the baby boy for your mom and dad.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yeah, where's your older sister right now?
Speaker 1 (01:34):
She's in Toronto.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
How is she feeling about everything that's happening for you?
Speaker 1 (01:38):
She loves it.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
She loves it because you know some siblings are like
anyway you ain't nobody.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Yeah, like she doesn't treat it like like that, like
you know, but like she's so happy for everything every
time she sees the post stuff or like she's just
so excited for sporting.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Super super because like even her son, my nephew, Like
you know, it's just super like inspired by everything.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
How old is he? I do, He's twelve, so he
knows he can tell.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
When I went to get my Ovo chain, when Drake
gave it to me, was he there? Yeah, it was
on my birthday and we went to a restaurant. I
pulled up with my nephew like call me.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
To the boy.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Major points. How are you to top that? That's what
I want to know. You're never going to be able to top.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
That, just so you know.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
And then I was like, yo, this guy's just like
me in a way so much like I see, like
I'm like, yo, he wasn't even excited like that, like.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Like you know, like he was really shy about him.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Like I wonder, I asked my mom, like I wonder
if he told his friends at school and stuff, like
you know, like I just met.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Drake, I'm Drake.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
But whatever, it was necessary.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I know he does. He likes to put on that
little front, but I know he was excited.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
I feel like that's like jenn Alfa.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
I believe they're very I don't even hear sometimes bumping
Drake songs and oh you're bumping the old school and ones.
I was bumping too, day one old songs.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Now that you mentioned Drake, like, how did that even
come to be? Put me in in that space. I
know you were a fifty sent fan.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
I know you were fans. Yeah, were you Drake?
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Okay, every time you're not.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Just saying that, God.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I manifested our friendship like that, like you.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Know, listen, that is one hell of a manifestation.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
No, like that was my fucking guy like artists. And
my girl used to get mad when I were just
trapping doing roads with her, and I would repeat, like
I'm the type of guy I ripheat songs right away,
like five songs on my playlist, I saying like seven,
and I'll just like keep running it back.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
I couldn't date you running back the same songs.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Absolutely not. I'll just keep running it back and then
fucking when are.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
You still with the same girl? Yeah, okay, it's worth it.
What's your girl's name?
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Okay, shout outkay, yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
You held it down and here we are.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Right yeah, yeah, so so funny things, so like so
she seen that, like she seen from when I was
bumping his music crazy to she get mad and all
that stuff to her seeing Holy showed me mad love.
And then what I was in jail and no one
knew I was in jail, Like I pled guilty to
a gun charge.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
What age? Because you're so young?
Speaker 1 (04:25):
It was a youth charged.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Well, like I've pled guilty when I was like probably
like twenty twenty or something.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
So it was like ongoing for like two years or something,
and she stood with you. Yeah yeah, So when I
was in.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Jail, you better not, you better not play try to
replace it later on. That's what y'all do you men
out here.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Yeah, So when I was in jail at that same time,
Drake posted my album to his story. He's just like
these are the albums that inspired him for a Scorpion album.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
So that I was in jail like, no way.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
How hold on, hold on, how did you even see this?
You're in jails this show and.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
People are just telling me over the phone, so that like,
no way, what the.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Heck, and that he was it was just random out
of the blue, yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Like Scorpio was out, and then he just posted to
the story like it was a heavy rotations like the
albums that inspired me for his Scorpion album. So then
I was just like oh ship. And then he d
m me and then he's just he's just like I
forgot what he dm me, but he asked me for
my number or something or something like that, and then
(05:33):
I'm like, no way, you know, I don't want to
think I'm in jail right now.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Because I'm like, oh, you were like I'm locked up
right now right.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
So that I gave my manager's number and then we're
just talking through you.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Didn't feel the way like I'm going to give drink.
My managers.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Manages my cousin, like you know, we're super like he's
on the same type of time as me. I could
super trust him, like yo, So then we're just dude
like that, like.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
You know, was shocked?
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Were you and your cousin manager? Like how?
Speaker 4 (06:05):
And that is so crazy too, because even Drake doesn't
even know this too well.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
When I gotta go.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Now, when I got out of jail too, I was, yo,
I had nothing to my name.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I was on like no bread, no nothing, nothing the bottom.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
And I was on house sires. They had a monitor
on me. Yeah yeah yeah. And then fucking now I'm
just like ship And now Drake's like messaging me where
we're talking but now sometimes I don't have a phone
at that point in time.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
To Oh my god, I love this story. It's a
sad story for you, but it's just such a great story.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Like sometimes he's calling, he's calling me and like you know,
he's trying to link up or something like that, and
then it's my manager. He can't answer, but he's at
his house and he'll end up like texting like my
girls are like, oh, like this guy just called you
at mean to come to your crib right now so
you could talk to them or something, pull up right now.
So yeah, that was funny with then yeah, we ended
(07:07):
up giving him my number and but yeah, shout out Drake.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
You know he's super super my guy, my brother.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
He changed your entire.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Yeah, he changed it, like you know, and he's a
really genuine guy, like he genuine super to Max.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
What do your parents think about all this?
Speaker 4 (07:29):
They're excited, Like my mom is my dad he's excited too.
But like when I was younger, listened a fifty cent music.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Whipped my ass.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Forget about a Caribbean parents getting mad.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Me for bumping any rap stuff, you know. So now
that I'm a rapper, I'm like.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Look, well, you know sometimes you know.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Like Caribbean parents and like Latin parents, they see rap
and hip hop culture is somewhat of a negative influence
for us.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Like when we're young, it's so.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Crazy, it changed my life for the better. But I
get a gain before they think it's negative and stuff,
you know.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
But they had their negative music too, Like I was
just talking to somebody. We were talking about NWA and
we were just talking about all these groups from the
eighties and the nineties and how we thought it was
such a big deal and you think back at it,
and I'm like, nah, it wasn't really that much of
a big deal. But I love this story for you,
you know what I'm saying, Like, it's just your life
could have turned out very, very different, very.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
And I was just like from right there, I was like, Holy, Okay,
I'm gonna tell you this music serious now, Like I
was already taking it serious, but none when I came home,
And how did you think I.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Got out on parole? Oh?
Speaker 4 (08:42):
And then of course I got on parole also because
the parole lady see that, Holy, I just got a
major co sign like this, he's actually hasn't been in
trouble for a long time. And she was neighbors with
Drake too, like she lives on in his neighborhood, like
in Torontoso.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Your Paroli got mon.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
So that I was just like she just believed the
whole story.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
You know, really, I'm so I'm so glad that happened,
because you know, sometimes when you enter the criminal justice
system and you have parole officers and probation officers they're
not always as understanding, and sometimes that even gets you
back behind bars.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
But then I was so happy when I was going
on pro because I'm like as little tiny be. I
was like, yo, I'm still gonna have to do roads
for a bit to maintain my rap career. Ty could
actually fully go legit, so that now I'm about to
get out happy, and then they put me on. Basically,
you're on a curfiewd ten o'clock, but you're also banned
from the whole West side of the Toronto City. So
(09:38):
anywhere like where I was making money, like the whole
I was banned there, you know, and I had an
ankle brace on me, so I was like, holy shit.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
It sounds like a lot for somebody who's so young.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
But you know, I'm happy that you were able to overcome,
and you know, I'm happy that we're sitting here today
and that you have your whole entire career ahead of you,
because we know that sometimes stories like this don't turn
out the way that yours did. So I hope you
know you're blessed and you know, thank you. This is
just the beginning for you. Like I can feel it.
I'm really good on energy and I feel like this
is just the beginning for you.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Thank you. I love your energy to it.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
As I walked out, like, oh you are here high.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Did you ever have a regular job ever in life?
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Yeah? My first where did you work?
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Put me on? I want to know a little more
about you before you met Drake.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Yeah, my first job my aunt, me and my bro
was like newspapers.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
That is the most American job ever. And you did
it in Canada.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Everybody here in America wants to be a newspaper boy
as soon as they're like, what like eight years old.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah, they're riding our bikes. No, this doesn't even something
really have you know? And he was all so fast.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
He'd be done like twenty houses and I would be there,
so it's like fuck. And now we were also in wintertime,
would shovel people's lines and so.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Everything to you guys do the same thing over Canada
because all the kids you'd be like, I'm gonna stovele
snow from my bro.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
You would go crazy when I'll get cold and stuff.
You dont want to go to the next neighborhood. I
was like, this is your cousin, No, it's yeah. My
brother though, is.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
He your manager.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
No, no, no, no, okay, that's my actual Like we
grew up in the same house.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
So you guys were just hustling together. Yeah yeah, Now
when did the music hit you?
Speaker 3 (11:35):
When were you?
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Like I was looking at some of your interviews and
I saw it was just like the first time, you know,
you spit your first eight balls. It was like randomly
in a studio. How did you end up in a studio?
How did music come into your life?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
So?
Speaker 4 (11:48):
All right, So how I did come was just so
random off of just a day I got expelled from school.
Me and two of my friends from the same neighborhood.
We got expelled.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
But you guys do when you kids, just tell me
you guys spelled and not tell me what I need.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Okay, all right, So my school is awkward, right, okay,
so listen to us.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I went to French school my whole life, like grade.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Eleven French you means French speaking, yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Like full French. And then and grade eleven, I'm like, yo,
fuck this. I go to English school. The dogs like
I want to have fun, Like I always hear about
the English school is how fun they are. And I'm like, yo,
let me go with all my friends.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
And so there's a difference between the school that speaks
French and.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Yeah, like you know, yeah yeah. So I'm like, let
me go, you know, over there. So now I went
to oak Wood. This is only two months I'm in
Oakwood now. So there's this pizza guy, the pizza pizza starts,
the pizza start at the corner of the school. He
the manager like always tries to bug with all the.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Kids, like he don't want you in the store.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Not like he's just a rude guy, you know, he's
just rooted for no reason. One day, Sky tried to
push me out the store. And this is lunchtime. All
the baddies are there.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
To put hands on you, all the you know, cool kids.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Everyone, we're all in there. Sky grabs my shirt and
pushes me out the store. And then you know, two
of my homies came and then we just put him
on the floor.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Now jumped the pizza shop owner.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
We're just like yo.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Then we just you know, had to came outside all
the coworkers and stuff, and then we just like, yo,
let's cut, let's kind of go back to the hood.
So we went back on the street car right there,
went back to the neighborhood, and then we're just like, yo,
we bought our first bag right there. You know, let's
start selling fucking stuff from there, you know. And then oh,
(13:53):
you've lived a lot, you know, picked up a.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Bag after that.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
And then that same day, my friends after school but
the rest of my other friends, we all were chilling
the courtyard and then they started freestyling. And then I'm like, yo,
this is like they always do that like randomly.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
And when you say the courtyard, that's like in your building.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
So yeah, let's say like like the metro housings and then.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
So that's like housing projects.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Yeah, okay, so.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Then like there's like a courtyard in the middle where
it's like a park and all that stuff. So then
we're just we'll just wait there in the neighborhood and
then like that's how we made money, Like you know,
the crackheads just and I'm not glorifying this, WHI I'm
just getting you.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Yeah, so you're in New York, you know, I haven't
seen that.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
They just walk in there and then they've hicked their
favorite dealer and then they just nip it right there,
you know. But so then now they'll start freestyling I'll
be like, yo, all right, I'm tired of this, and
now like now that we're expelled, like, yo, let's go
make a record or something. Not me, but I'm like
for them. So I'm like one of our older heads,
top notch. He was doing his app and things. So
(15:00):
I'm like, there's a studio rape by the neighborhood. I'm like,
can you book it for us? And he did it
and then we went there and I was just expecting
them to.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Wrap you were just going to lay in the cut.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Yeah, yeah, I'm like, yo, you guys need your thing,
you know. And then they asked me to do eight bars.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
And then they wore like step up to the mic. Yeah,
do you remember what you even wrapped? Like what you
said or not?
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Yeah? It was this song. It was this song.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
It was something that you already had, and I was
so mad.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
The biggest thing in like this song I said, was
I was this is a girl that snaked on on
my my bros.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
That happened a lot.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
She gave he had something at her house and she
niggas come in there and they took it.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
You know.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
What.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
I did this this song to them, and then from
there I was just like, okay, we got buzzing in
the city after that.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
And then so you guys recorded sion. We recorded it,
okay that we.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Just shot put it on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
And then a month later our trap got raided and
the police.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
And they were singing lyrics of our songs, you know,
the cops.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Oh, every older guy in the neighborhood got mad at us, like, yo,
you guys need to stop rapping it making the block cat.
My brother beat me up that day I got out
of jail. He's like, Yo, you're hoting us up like.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
The game bro.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Yeah, And they thought because yo, we weren't taking it seriously,
just for funny.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
You guys were young, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
No, I'm just coccused. We're a groove, sorry to say.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
After we did that song there, we became a group
called Garden Gang and it was just us stay always
on a song. But then after when we got raided
and our travel, we became coccused, so we couldn't be
together no more, and they stopped doing their thing.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
And I'm okay, you're saying, okay, Cody's that's okay. That's
how you guys.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
What do you say?
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (17:02):
What did they become it's like coy.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
But then now we can't make songs together around house
for us, they stopped doing their ship and I'm like, brother,
I almost.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
They stopped doing music because.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
They're on housey. You know.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
The only reason I ended up still releasing stuff was
because I actually had a couple single songs that I
did because they didn't show up at that studio that time. Yeah,
and then I called my video man, like, come shoot
a video in my backyard.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Yeah, I love this.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
So then that we released on YouTube. So I started
getting my single name out there a bit, and then
that's the rip.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
No.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
My first name was double Bay, Double B. It was
my first rat.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Name, you know.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
And now I'm like, yo, I can't because even after
they rated the trapick that, I'm like, yo, I can't
have the same name like that, the fiends called me
and then my rapper name.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
You were like, I'm gonna, yeah, my rat.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Name is going to be double B. And I'm like,
I tell these fiends to call me Smiley. But then
Sminny just took over everything, like everyone just kept calling.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
You like, sorry, fiends, I'm gonna have to share the
name of the rest of the world.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Yeah, So then yeah, after that, I took the music
pretty serious after that, and then when I really took
it serious, was just.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
That's what I was going to ask you, what really
hit you? Like, yo, bro, this could be something I
could get paid off of this, This could be my career.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
All right. So after yeah, I remember when I told
you I got out of jail.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
So there a couple of situations happened to me where
I was just say luck was on my side, and
I was just say, yeah, that was my final thing,
like I'm fully going for music.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
You know, like this could have ended it all.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Yeah, so I'm just say yeah, nonetheless music from there.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Going for music, and that's it.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Yeah. I never picked on the bag never after that day.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Now I was reading here you're going through like, well
you sober now right?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
No, you see the cover.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
I go on my little freeze like sometimes I like
to do like yeah, three week clans, feel good. My
goal is to like be full sober, but especially like alcohol,
yeah okay, alcohol cold turkey. So like once I do,
I want to like put the vape down, alcohol and
just clean diet and go to the gym.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Well it's hard sometimes, you.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Know, are you currently on your fitness journey. I was
looking at your instagram myself. Yeah I am, but you
fell off the bandwagon, right, No, no, no, I'm doing it
all the time. I'm not doing it how I want
to do it for me. It's like fake gym sessions
and I'm still drinking at the end of the night. True,
it's well yeah, still I'm still doing that. But definitely
(19:46):
when you get focused, you can make it happen. You
saw gonna transform himself like like I was like, this
is not gonna.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
But no, me too.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
Though I went I lost eighty pounds eight zero. Yes,
I got actually, and then I just you know, I
lost motivation. When I was almost there, I was like
right there, like I was in right Eli.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Just hiking just where you were living in La.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
Yeah, it's just bare so much weight. And then I
started going on towards this. I just like started getting
back into the road life habits and just skinned all
my weight back.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
How is being on the road for you? Are you
on the road alone or do you have a family
member with you?
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (20:44):
I have my managers and this couple Noah, now just
like one of my homies, because all of them they
can come to the United States, so they mostly if
it's a Canada show, they'll come.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
So the United States is just as strict as Canada
is with.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Us, Yeah, they can't.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
But for you guys, know, we're so flexible.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
You know what sucks for you guys they kick you
guys out from once you guys land in Toronto or
something that they give you like, oh, you have to
turn around. But for us, it's right before we get
to it's after TSA. We have to go in the
room and they'll let you know from there if you
could fly out.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Now we gotta change that. Tell me I need to
call Open Canada because I can't have the homies talking
about I got to come back.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
It didn't work out. As ship caravaner Caravana talked to me,
it's the best time to be in Toronto. I wanted
to go.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
I've always wanted to go, but my significant other says, no,
I'm not good for girls.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Yeah, yeah, my girl tries to say, it's part of
the culture.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
It is part of the culture.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Are you crazy?
Speaker 3 (21:46):
I go there in the thong's We're gonna wear, you know,
decent clothes. We just want to experience, you know, the culture. No,
I get it. I get it, but everybody used to go.
I always had to stay home. One day, I'm gonna
make it, don't you worry. One day I'm make I'm attacking, Like,
what's money I made?
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Well?
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Yeah, Caravana is just the lttest moment in the summertime
the whole year, because even right around the corner, like
three days later, it's ovo Fest, and then my birthday
lines on the day after Carabano, So it's just like
for me, it's a movie every.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Time that's your birthday week Yeah, one time there.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
It was Caravana weekend.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
I was in DR right before then it was Caravana yeah,
and now it's Caravana.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
No, it's Caravana.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Then I went to DR for a couple of days,
and then I got the word, oh, Ovio Fest got
moved to August sixth, which is my birthday, and like
Drake wants to perform over the top with Smiley and now
I'm like, oh Leon my birthday and I'm in DR
right now again, I'm like this is all to me
A moves so first time performing this together, I'm like,
(22:56):
oh kill okay.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
So then now went back to the city we performed
in and I was just.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Take me back to that Take me back to that day, because.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
You know, I see all the haters in the crowd
on this.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
The haters dad sit on that stage.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Let me tell you, Drake is one of the biggest stars.
I'm not talking rap. I'm just talking, you know, just
star completely. So it's like, how did you even get
your head right to get one?
Speaker 1 (23:21):
I actually tell you the story, which is a crazy story.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Share it with me.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Crazy. Sometimes luck is on my side, so.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
You seem like a very lucky man. I'll tell you
that much.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Yamember, how I told you they moved Ovo Fest. So
at first Ovo Fest was supposed to be I think
like a week or two weeks before, and I was
supposed to perform there too. I had a party I
was doing. I was hosting something, and then Drake messaged
me that YO, come to rehearsals quick, and I'm like, oh,
(23:49):
I left my party, I went to rehear I went
to rehearsals, and then fucking I started practicing my ship.
I'm like screaming a bit too, but I'm just trying
to be loud because I'm trying to practice.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
You have a microphone.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
I see him doing his rehearsals and I do mines
and then I'm just like the next day I woke
up and I'm like, ho, I lost my voice.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
I was like, are you fuck?
Speaker 3 (24:16):
You did much?
Speaker 1 (24:18):
That's what you did? A Paul.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
I'm like, Yo, what the heck come up to miss
on this big one?
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Disgusting with yourself?
Speaker 4 (24:26):
Yeah, I'm like, there's no way I can even go
and fake it, like it'll be so stupid, like you know.
So I'm like, I'm getting ready to like let everyone
know I can't do it. Then I see an Instagram
post Drake cart covid moving overal fast.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
You're like, yes, I don't want to tell these people
to have a voice.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
So I was like yes.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Then now that's when I was in dr and then
found out they moved it to my birthday and.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
I was like, yeah, so that first time that you
got on stage with Drake, like, how are your nerves?
How are your nerves waited to walk in?
Speaker 4 (25:00):
So I'm there with all my like my sister, my
brothers and stuff with there Nicki, Minaja's performing with They're
just watching it. You know that I have my in ears.
Now I'm like, okay, They're like, so I has to
come backstage quick. He's about to go on. I'm there
walking back there like noodles, Like my legs are noodles.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I can't even walk. I feel like I can't walk.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
I'm like fuck. So then you know I went there though.
But as soon as you're on stage and say yeah,
you just say how come here?
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (25:33):
It was a movie from once I was on stage,
so I shut out the boy.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Man.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Get that to you, man, because let me tell you,
people that do this all the time, they're like they're
nervous every single time. So for you to be, you know,
a newcomer, a young guy, and to get on stage
with Drake rock it out and feel confident about it
because I was.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Like the year right before they did it, or two years,
because I don't think they had it the year before
I open off the show. Then I was just like hoh, crickets,
Like I'll put for it for like twenty minutes.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
I'm not shaking the room for nothing. I'm like, holy shit,
what is this going to be done?
Speaker 3 (26:10):
It happens and it's like.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
Fast forward and now I'm on the actual Drake set
list and it's night time, you know, the night show.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
It's a different type of energy.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
We have our Powerhouse concert that happens in October and
that first set, you know, that opening act, I'm like.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
No, please, can we wait?
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Half the people are not here yet, So I totally
understand where you're coming from with that as far as.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
Yeah, so it's a super blessing. Thank God that like
that happened. I was a super good feeling.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Do people believe this story because I'm still here and disbelief, like, wow,
all of this happened to you?
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Yeah, I have a.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Thousand different stories, Like, you know, I could go out
for days.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Well now this is like just the overall umbrella of
everything that has happened to you. And you go from
like being behind bars and you know, your life possibly
you know, taking the turn for the worst, to becoming
you know, a world known star, you know, lined up
with Drake, who's one of the biggest rap stars.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah, yeah, actually yeah, I look at it sometimes I'm like.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Do you believe in God?
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (27:18):
I'm like says yeah, because God got allowed to do it.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Looking in the sky. Yeah, what the fuck am I
doing here?
Speaker 3 (27:25):
You're like, how did this?
Speaker 1 (27:27):
What the heck is going on? No?
Speaker 4 (27:30):
No, I used to ask those questions a lot, But
now I get it. I'm like, what the fuck did
ask her?
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Why am I here? I know? Crazy?
Speaker 3 (27:37):
You were talented, yes, but you know there's a million
talented people that this.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Does not happen for so I hope you understand. You
know how blessed you are.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
For sure? For sure?
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Did your girl ever tell you I don't want you
to be a rapper when you started like getting into music.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Yeah, Like she never told me that because she met
me as a rapper she met. Yeah, but what she
did do, like she got like when I got my
face tattoos?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Where's she from? She's trying. She's Jamaican, the Caribbean girl. Listen,
we not with the face tattoos.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
I know.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
So she's just say so Bob stands for my like
my slogan by or by buy something, I buy it,
get all, yeah, you get it. So that now tattooed, Yeah,
I would have been mad. I came back to a car.
She didn't know she was waiting in the car. I'm like,
I'm gonna get tattooed quick, just you know. So she
(28:31):
was pregnant. She didn't want to she didn't want to
come inside.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Oh your dad.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Yeah, oh my god, congratulations, thank you boy or girl.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Girl. She's about to turn seven November nineteen.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Seven years old. Yeah yeah, well you look seventeen.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
So you just came back to the car and I
came back to the car with a face.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Tatt Yeah, she's like, what the fuck?
Speaker 3 (28:53):
I would have been mad to listen.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
I'm not even gonna take your side on this one
because I would have been like, did you just tattoo
your face?
Speaker 4 (28:59):
She's just like you, like, imagine that when we go
to the teacher school meeting.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
She's thinking of the kids. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
I'm like she's like, imagine what they're gonna say. Like
and I'm like, bro, like think I business now joke.
I didn't say that, but like, yo, what do you mean?
Like this is a way of me. Like I was
telling myself like there's no pand B. This is I
can't go get a job now it's full rapper mom.
You know, I'm like, Yo, there's no you.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Were locking yourself into being a celebrity and an artist.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
And what's so ironic now? Like my daughter's school like
they love.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Me because they love your personality.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
They know all like yo, oh this song with Drake
that everything. They're just so like anytime going to school,
super love like.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Then they were able to look past your ink.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
But you know, a part of the fucking school board.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
People the best people.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
But you know, girlfriends and wives always like why would
you tattoo your face?
Speaker 3 (30:03):
What do we have to go to the white House?
Speaker 1 (30:05):
They like me more than her.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
They're going by person, shout out to your girl, Like
you know, it's not easy, you know, especially you know,
having someone that's in the limelight and you know, women
and groupies and being on tour and she's not always
going to get to be there.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Even yeah, you know, but that shout out to her
because she's strong and like she super holds it down
and stuff. But like even like yesterday is sorry, yeah,
so what to a lotto party? Right? And fucking she
got up mad at me, like you know, it's my
favorite artists.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
That's just a little bit of jealous because it was
a lot of a lot of.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Because that's actually a favorite artist.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
You know, I want to beat it.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
And I was just like, oh, you didn't even think
of me. But it's like I'm not even thinking like that,
you know, But.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
I don't worry honey, but a lotto come over there
to Canada. I'm going to I'm going to bring you
back to You're gonna do the picture. It's gonna happen.
But I can see, you know, it's kind of like fomo.
She's watching you. You know, you're out there, you're doing
all these things, and she's back home with baby.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Yeah, she's gonna.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Be like on the other side of Yeah, she sees
actually like my heights and rolls, you know.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Oh she knows.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
You know all of you.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Treat good man is this industry is wicked and if
you have someone at home you know that loves you
and loved you from day one. Yeah, without all the
glitz and glamour, without the money, without the cold signs,
that's your day one.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Yeah, for sure that there you go, Argentina.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Did you book it yet? Come on, I thought you
were going to come and be like, yeah, I'm going.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
I want to go as soon.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
I'm a goal probably a couple of months right now,
Like I'm about to go to London and then Mexico,
so kind of.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Just performances or visiting what are you doing.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Performing performing parties? Bringing me out to the show and
then Mexico. I'm doing a feature out there.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
So who are you working with? Americo?
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Talk about local artists from Toronto. His name is crow Crow.
What's the how do you say the bird that birds?
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Yeah? Crow I always I would say it's so fun.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Because you first learned French and then later on you
learned English.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Yeah, French is my first language and English.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Yeah, your father speaks French like from back, like his lineage.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
My mom and my dad speaks French.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
So yeah, who decided you were going to learn English
or is that just a regular thing in Canada?
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Regular thing?
Speaker 4 (32:46):
Yeah, it's a regular thing, especially because even after my because.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
You know, we're here in America, we only learn English.
We don't learn French too. That's why I you know,
you learn.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Vote well because when my dad left, we lived with
my too, Like she's super like French and English, but
like she'll speak English a lot too, and his sister
or my mom's sister. That's why, like me and my cousins,
you just grew up in the same house.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Is this going to be your first time going to Mexico?
Speaker 1 (33:15):
No, No, second time you've been.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Yeah, have you been to where your mother's from?
Speaker 1 (33:19):
No? I never why I need to go with her.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
But do you know where she's from, like where's her.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
Town or yeah, but my mom was adopted, so that's
why I kind of like, I don't speak Spanish too,
and she doesn't speak Spanish.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
But originally she's from Mexico.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
Yeah, okay, so that's why now I want to learn
Spanish because I'm like, you know, my grandma speaks six different.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Languages on your mom's side or on your side, she's
a genius.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
That's like, holy Leah, I need to step up my game.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Listen, two languages an't more than enough. Okay, I got to,
you got to. We don't need no more.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Now. I speak Spanish and I.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Speak English, but I can totally understand Portuguese and Italian,
like I can communicate with someone in Portuguese or Italian.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
It's so similar to the Spanish. I tried French.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
I used to go to classes, but it just wouldn't
go in. We would go to La Leon's Francis. That's
like we have it out here and you go learn,
and you'd spend all this money trying to learn and
just doesn't work. I went to Paris, I knew nothing,
really shit they hated me. Then now talk to me
about twenty twenty five. What's the role out? I know,
(34:29):
I know twenty twenty five is planned out. What is
your goal for twenty twenty five personally and professionally?
Speaker 1 (34:35):
All right?
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Personally, I feel like, you know, twenty twenty five, I
want to get my super weight loss journey down packed?
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Okay, like where I want to be you just got
to lock in.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
Mentally it's sober. I want to be full fully sober. Musically,
I feel like I want to and I know it's
going to be a manifesto.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
I want it to be a manifestation.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Yo, It's so crazy you say that. Like in one
of my I was like, let's be a king of manifestation.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
You really are get a crown.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
Kind of like it's gonna be the year I'm gonna
really be calling major super major artists.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
You know, what do you consider would make you a
super major artist?
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Like two three let's say, like right away, two hits
in a row by yourself, right away you'll be called
major artists. You know, like when I did over the Top,
if I was to follow up right away and get
it actually next hit right there out of being like
super like major, you know, and then if I was
to follow that one up again. So it's just kind
(35:41):
of being consistent with the hits right away.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
So we're gonna do a weight loss journey and sobriety journey,
and we're gonna get two back to back joints. That's
gonna put you over the top.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Over the top.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Yes, I love this for you.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Man.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Tour life, what are you thinking?
Speaker 4 (35:58):
Yeah, a tour out here like in the States, and
I'm tired of touring in Canada.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
You know, come on over.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
Yeah, Like I've done a couple of shows out here,
but I want to actually have my own. That's another goal,
to have a US tour. Iroball be like when I know,
like I'm really making serious noise.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
It's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Like as you said, you're the king of manifest and
you write all that down what you just told me,
and I'm going to be watching out. I'm no.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
And it's so crazy.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
My when I like I first started again, I like
media training and stuff, and my lady trainer like she
told me something. She's like, yo, right down all your
stuff that like in four years we'll talk again and
we're like we'll see what you accomplish and everything you
say you want to accomplish in these four years, you know,
(36:50):
And then.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
I love your media trainer. Listen to me to train
a hustle. She'll have me this plan for four years.
So the writing everything.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Down stuff on that paper, it was just say.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
You already yeah, like holy, so you need a new list?
Oh yeah, I need to finish the list so that yeah, soon.
Do you know what's on there still that you want
to get done?
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Ah?
Speaker 3 (37:13):
I'm digging to.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
Do you have to look at it, all right?
Speaker 2 (37:17):
What are we pushing right now? What is the project
that you're currently focused on?
Speaker 1 (37:21):
All right? So I dropped my tape Don't Box Me in?
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Oh, don't box me? Yeah, don't box Don't box me.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
And don't Box me in ever So yeah, I'm still
promoting that but right now, about to drop some of
new music soon for you guys.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
More slappers on the way.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
What we get? Do you know anything? Do you know
what you're trying to put out?
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Features some big feature?
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Hold on spill the teaing the song like that was
a good right?
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Yeah? Like you stop trying to spill the tea. You
know we live.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
Especially you know journalists and interviewers. That's what we live for.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
No, for sure, for sure we.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
Try and get that break.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
We're trying to say, you know, Smiley Reveals and Come
Again podcast co album with Drake Anyway, anyway, I'm just manifested.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
I know you guys from New York. I need you
guys to get me that. What's your Cardi B feature?
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Trying to get a Cardi BF. Yes, we gotta make
we gotta talk to a man. He's the one with
the plug. You know, everybody you don't want to make
a Cardi B feature, No man, But I want to
thank you so much, you know, for sitting down with
me today. I really was excited to get to know you.
Super proud of you. And when I read your story
and you know what you've been able to accomplish, and
(38:36):
you know manifest.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
I'm big on manifesting.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
A lot of people don't understand the importance of it
and putting things out in the universe.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
Yes, it's so serious that like you have to actually
really sleep and dreaming.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
You have to dream about your manifest, wake up and
give it to fall out of love with it and
fall back in love with it.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
I love thank you so much, for sitting down with
us today. Man, we're gonna be watching your career. You're
super dope. Big shout out to Drake. I'm glad you
know that. You know, stuff happened, but you know he's
still that big mega star. You know that we all
admire and we all respect for sure.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
Coming Grassiers Come Again is a production of Honey German
Productions in partnership with Iheart's microen through that podcast network.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Yeah Yeah,
Yes, Come Again a podcast by Honey German. Oh you
look like.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
You need the A C to be turned up right.
Welcome Smiley to the grasses. Come Again podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
You can take that sip back. He got a cup,
he's sipping. I was talking and he was going to
take a drink. How are you feeling today?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I'm feeling good. You know.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
How's New York treating you?
Speaker 4 (00:25):
I love New York always the second home to me,
you know, so every time in town, I just love it.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I want to know everything about you. I want to
start from the beginning. Mom and dad, I'm hearing your
Mexican in Haitian, right.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yes, Mom's Mexican, my dad's Haitian.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Make shout out to meicanos. He looks like me.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Seeks Spanish, okay.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Mom said, we're gonna teach your French.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
And you learn Spanish. Okay.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Does your mom speak Spanish?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
No she doesn't. Also she needs to learn too.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Born in Canada, Yeah okay.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
So yeah, my parents read Montreal and then you know
I was born over there when she was like six
hours away from Toronto. Drive and yeah, then we moved
to Toronto when I was a kid. And then yeah,
they ended up divorcing and make their separate ways.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Are you an only child?
Speaker 1 (01:17):
No?
Speaker 4 (01:18):
No, No, I have a sister, older sister, and yeah,
I have like three cousins. Are like we've grew up
together in the same house, so they're like my brothers,
you know.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
But you're the baby boy for your mom and dad.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yeah, where's your older sister right now?
Speaker 1 (01:34):
She's in Toronto.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
How is she feeling about everything that's happening for you?
Speaker 1 (01:38):
She loves it.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
She loves it because you know some siblings are like
anyway you ain't nobody.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Yeah, like she doesn't treat it like like that, like
you know, but like she's so happy for everything every
time she sees the post stuff or like she's just
so excited for sporting.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Super super because like even her son, my nephew, Like
you know, it's just super like inspired by everything.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
How old is he? I do, He's twelve, so he
knows he can tell.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
When I went to get my Ovo chain, when Drake
gave it to me, was he there? Yeah, it was
on my birthday and we went to a restaurant. I
pulled up with my nephew like call me.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
To the boy.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Major points. How are you to top that? That's what
I want to know. You're never going to be able to top.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
That, just so you know.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
And then I was like, yo, this guy's just like
me in a way so much like I see, like
I'm like, yo, he wasn't even excited like that, like.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Like you know, like he was really shy about him.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Like I wonder, I asked my mom, like I wonder
if he told his friends at school and stuff, like
you know, like I just met.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Drake, I'm Drake.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
But whatever, it was necessary.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I know he does. He likes to put on that
little front, but I know he was excited.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
I feel like that's like jenn Alfa.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
I believe they're very I don't even hear sometimes bumping
Drake songs and oh you're bumping the old school and ones.
I was bumping too, day one old songs.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Now that you mentioned Drake, like, how did that even
come to be? Put me in in that space. I
know you were a fifty sent fan.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
I know you were fans. Yeah, were you Drake?
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Okay, every time you're not.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Just saying that, God.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I manifested our friendship like that, like you.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Know, listen, that is one hell of a manifestation.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
No, like that was my fucking guy like artists. And
my girl used to get mad when I were just
trapping doing roads with her, and I would repeat, like
I'm the type of guy I ripheat songs right away,
like five songs on my playlist, I saying like seven,
and I'll just like keep running it back.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
I couldn't date you running back the same songs.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Absolutely not. I'll just keep running it back and then
fucking when are.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
You still with the same girl? Yeah, okay, it's worth it.
What's your girl's name?
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Okay, shout outkay, yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
You held it down and here we are.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Right yeah, yeah, so so funny things, so like so
she seen that, like she seen from when I was
bumping his music crazy to she get mad and all
that stuff to her seeing Holy showed me mad love.
And then what I was in jail and no one
knew I was in jail, Like I pled guilty to
a gun charge.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
What age? Because you're so young?
Speaker 1 (04:25):
It was a youth charged.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Well, like I've pled guilty when I was like probably
like twenty twenty or something.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
So it was like ongoing for like two years or something,
and she stood with you. Yeah yeah, So when I
was in.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Jail, you better not, you better not play try to
replace it later on. That's what y'all do you men
out here.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Yeah, So when I was in jail at that same time,
Drake posted my album to his story. He's just like
these are the albums that inspired him for a Scorpion album.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
So that I was in jail like, no way.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
How hold on, hold on, how did you even see this?
You're in jails this show and.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
People are just telling me over the phone, so that like,
no way, what the.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Heck, and that he was it was just random out
of the blue, yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Like Scorpio was out, and then he just posted to
the story like it was a heavy rotations like the
albums that inspired me for his Scorpion album. So then
I was just like oh ship. And then he d
m me and then he's just he's just like I
forgot what he dm me, but he asked me for
my number or something or something like that, and then
(05:33):
I'm like, no way, you know, I don't want to
think I'm in jail right now.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Because I'm like, oh, you were like I'm locked up
right now right.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
So that I gave my manager's number and then we're
just talking through you.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Didn't feel the way like I'm going to give drink.
My managers.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Manages my cousin, like you know, we're super like he's
on the same type of time as me. I could
super trust him, like yo, So then we're just dude
like that, like.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
You know, was shocked?
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Were you and your cousin manager? Like how?
Speaker 4 (06:05):
And that is so crazy too, because even Drake doesn't
even know this too well.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
When I gotta go.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Now, when I got out of jail too, I was, yo,
I had nothing to my name.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I was on like no bread, no nothing, nothing the bottom.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
And I was on house sires. They had a monitor
on me. Yeah yeah yeah. And then fucking now I'm
just like ship And now Drake's like messaging me where
we're talking but now sometimes I don't have a phone
at that point in time.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
To Oh my god, I love this story. It's a
sad story for you, but it's just such a great story.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Like sometimes he's calling, he's calling me and like you know,
he's trying to link up or something like that, and
then it's my manager. He can't answer, but he's at
his house and he'll end up like texting like my
girls are like, oh, like this guy just called you
at mean to come to your crib right now so
you could talk to them or something, pull up right now.
So yeah, that was funny with then yeah, we ended
(07:07):
up giving him my number and but yeah, shout out Drake.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
You know he's super super my guy, my brother.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
He changed your entire.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Yeah, he changed it, like you know, and he's a
really genuine guy, like he genuine super to Max.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
What do your parents think about all this?
Speaker 4 (07:29):
They're excited, Like my mom is my dad he's excited too.
But like when I was younger, listened a fifty cent music.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Whipped my ass.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Forget about a Caribbean parents getting mad.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Me for bumping any rap stuff, you know. So now
that I'm a rapper, I'm like.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Look, well, you know sometimes you know.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Like Caribbean parents and like Latin parents, they see rap
and hip hop culture is somewhat of a negative influence
for us.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Like when we're young, it's so.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Crazy, it changed my life for the better. But I
get a gain before they think it's negative and stuff,
you know.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
But they had their negative music too, Like I was
just talking to somebody. We were talking about NWA and
we were just talking about all these groups from the
eighties and the nineties and how we thought it was
such a big deal and you think back at it,
and I'm like, nah, it wasn't really that much of
a big deal. But I love this story for you,
you know what I'm saying, Like, it's just your life
could have turned out very, very different, very.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
And I was just like from right there, I was like, Holy, Okay,
I'm gonna tell you this music serious now, Like I
was already taking it serious, but none when I came home,
And how did you think I.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Got out on parole? Oh?
Speaker 4 (08:42):
And then of course I got on parole also because
the parole lady see that, Holy, I just got a
major co sign like this, he's actually hasn't been in
trouble for a long time. And she was neighbors with
Drake too, like she lives on in his neighborhood, like
in Torontoso.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Your Paroli got mon.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
So that I was just like she just believed the
whole story.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
You know, really, I'm so I'm so glad that happened,
because you know, sometimes when you enter the criminal justice
system and you have parole officers and probation officers they're
not always as understanding, and sometimes that even gets you
back behind bars.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
But then I was so happy when I was going
on pro because I'm like as little tiny be. I
was like, yo, I'm still gonna have to do roads
for a bit to maintain my rap career. Ty could
actually fully go legit, so that now I'm about to
get out happy, and then they put me on. Basically,
you're on a curfiewd ten o'clock, but you're also banned
from the whole West side of the Toronto City. So
(09:38):
anywhere like where I was making money, like the whole
I was banned there, you know, and I had an
ankle brace on me, so I was like, holy shit.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
It sounds like a lot for somebody who's so young.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
But you know, I'm happy that you were able to overcome,
and you know, I'm happy that we're sitting here today
and that you have your whole entire career ahead of you,
because we know that sometimes stories like this don't turn
out the way that yours did. So I hope you
know you're blessed and you know, thank you. This is
just the beginning for you. Like I can feel it.
I'm really good on energy and I feel like this
is just the beginning for you.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Thank you. I love your energy to it.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
As I walked out, like, oh you are here high.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Did you ever have a regular job ever in life?
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Yeah? My first where did you work?
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Put me on? I want to know a little more
about you before you met Drake.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Yeah, my first job my aunt, me and my bro
was like newspapers.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
That is the most American job ever. And you did
it in Canada.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Everybody here in America wants to be a newspaper boy
as soon as they're like, what like eight years old.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah, they're riding our bikes. No, this doesn't even something
really have you know? And he was all so fast.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
He'd be done like twenty houses and I would be there,
so it's like fuck. And now we were also in wintertime,
would shovel people's lines and so.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Everything to you guys do the same thing over Canada
because all the kids you'd be like, I'm gonna stovele
snow from my bro.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
You would go crazy when I'll get cold and stuff.
You dont want to go to the next neighborhood. I
was like, this is your cousin, No, it's yeah. My
brother though, is.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
He your manager.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
No, no, no, no, okay, that's my actual Like we
grew up in the same house.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
So you guys were just hustling together. Yeah yeah, Now
when did the music hit you?
Speaker 3 (11:35):
When were you?
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Like I was looking at some of your interviews and
I saw it was just like the first time, you know,
you spit your first eight balls. It was like randomly
in a studio. How did you end up in a studio?
How did music come into your life?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
So?
Speaker 4 (11:48):
All right, So how I did come was just so
random off of just a day I got expelled from school.
Me and two of my friends from the same neighborhood.
We got expelled.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
But you guys do when you kids, just tell me
you guys spelled and not tell me what I need.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Okay, all right, So my school is awkward, right, okay,
so listen to us.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I went to French school my whole life, like grade.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Eleven French you means French speaking, yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Like full French. And then and grade eleven, I'm like, yo,
fuck this. I go to English school. The dogs like
I want to have fun, Like I always hear about
the English school is how fun they are. And I'm like, yo,
let me go with all my friends.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
And so there's a difference between the school that speaks
French and.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Yeah, like you know, yeah yeah. So I'm like, let
me go, you know, over there. So now I went
to oak Wood. This is only two months I'm in
Oakwood now. So there's this pizza guy, the pizza pizza starts,
the pizza start at the corner of the school. He
the manager like always tries to bug with all the.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Kids, like he don't want you in the store.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Not like he's just a rude guy, you know, he's
just rooted for no reason. One day, Sky tried to
push me out the store. And this is lunchtime. All
the baddies are there.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
To put hands on you, all the you know, cool kids.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Everyone, we're all in there. Sky grabs my shirt and
pushes me out the store. And then you know, two
of my homies came and then we just put him
on the floor.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Now jumped the pizza shop owner.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
We're just like yo.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Then we just you know, had to came outside all
the coworkers and stuff, and then we just like, yo,
let's cut, let's kind of go back to the hood.
So we went back on the street car right there,
went back to the neighborhood, and then we're just like, yo,
we bought our first bag right there. You know, let's
start selling fucking stuff from there, you know. And then oh,
(13:53):
you've lived a lot, you know, picked up a.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Bag after that.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
And then that same day, my friends after school but
the rest of my other friends, we all were chilling
the courtyard and then they started freestyling. And then I'm like, yo,
this is like they always do that like randomly.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
And when you say the courtyard, that's like in your building.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
So yeah, let's say like like the metro housings and then.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
So that's like housing projects.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Yeah, okay, so.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Then like there's like a courtyard in the middle where
it's like a park and all that stuff. So then
we're just we'll just wait there in the neighborhood and
then like that's how we made money, Like you know,
the crackheads just and I'm not glorifying this, WHI I'm
just getting you.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Yeah, so you're in New York, you know, I haven't
seen that.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
They just walk in there and then they've hicked their
favorite dealer and then they just nip it right there,
you know. But so then now they'll start freestyling I'll
be like, yo, all right, I'm tired of this, and
now like now that we're expelled, like, yo, let's go
make a record or something. Not me, but I'm like
for them. So I'm like one of our older heads,
top notch. He was doing his app and things. So
(15:00):
I'm like, there's a studio rape by the neighborhood. I'm like,
can you book it for us? And he did it
and then we went there and I was just expecting
them to.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Wrap you were just going to lay in the cut.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Yeah, yeah, I'm like, yo, you guys need your thing,
you know. And then they asked me to do eight bars.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
And then they wore like step up to the mic. Yeah,
do you remember what you even wrapped? Like what you
said or not?
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Yeah? It was this song. It was this song.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
It was something that you already had, and I was
so mad.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
The biggest thing in like this song I said, was
I was this is a girl that snaked on on
my my bros.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
That happened a lot.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
She gave he had something at her house and she
niggas come in there and they took it.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
You know.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
What.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
I did this this song to them, and then from
there I was just like, okay, we got buzzing in
the city after that.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
And then so you guys recorded sion. We recorded it,
okay that we.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Just shot put it on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
And then a month later our trap got raided and
the police.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
And they were singing lyrics of our songs, you know,
the cops.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Oh, every older guy in the neighborhood got mad at us, like, yo,
you guys need to stop rapping it making the block cat.
My brother beat me up that day I got out
of jail. He's like, Yo, you're hoting us up like.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
The game bro.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Yeah, And they thought because yo, we weren't taking it seriously,
just for funny.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
You guys were young, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
No, I'm just coccused. We're a groove, sorry to say.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
After we did that song there, we became a group
called Garden Gang and it was just us stay always
on a song. But then after when we got raided
and our travel, we became coccused, so we couldn't be
together no more, and they stopped doing their thing.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
And I'm okay, you're saying, okay, Cody's that's okay. That's
how you guys.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
What do you say?
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (17:02):
What did they become it's like coy.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
But then now we can't make songs together around house
for us, they stopped doing their ship and I'm like, brother,
I almost.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
They stopped doing music because.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
They're on housey. You know.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
The only reason I ended up still releasing stuff was
because I actually had a couple single songs that I
did because they didn't show up at that studio that time. Yeah,
and then I called my video man, like, come shoot
a video in my backyard.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Yeah, I love this.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
So then that we released on YouTube. So I started
getting my single name out there a bit, and then
that's the rip.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
No.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
My first name was double Bay, Double B. It was
my first rat.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Name, you know.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
And now I'm like, yo, I can't because even after
they rated the trapick that, I'm like, yo, I can't
have the same name like that, the fiends called me
and then my rapper name.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
You were like, I'm gonna, yeah, my rat.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Name is going to be double B. And I'm like,
I tell these fiends to call me Smiley. But then
Sminny just took over everything, like everyone just kept calling.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
You like, sorry, fiends, I'm gonna have to share the
name of the rest of the world.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Yeah, So then yeah, after that, I took the music
pretty serious after that, and then when I really took
it serious, was just.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
That's what I was going to ask you, what really
hit you? Like, yo, bro, this could be something I
could get paid off of this, This could be my career.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
All right. So after yeah, I remember when I told
you I got out of jail.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
So there a couple of situations happened to me where
I was just say luck was on my side, and
I was just say, yeah, that was my final thing,
like I'm fully going for music.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
You know, like this could have ended it all.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Yeah, so I'm just say yeah, nonetheless music from there.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Going for music, and that's it.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Yeah. I never picked on the bag never after that day.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Now I was reading here you're going through like, well
you sober now right?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
No, you see the cover.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
I go on my little freeze like sometimes I like
to do like yeah, three week clans, feel good. My
goal is to like be full sober, but especially like alcohol,
yeah okay, alcohol cold turkey. So like once I do,
I want to like put the vape down, alcohol and
just clean diet and go to the gym.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Well it's hard sometimes, you.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Know, are you currently on your fitness journey. I was
looking at your instagram myself. Yeah I am, but you
fell off the bandwagon, right, No, no, no, I'm doing it
all the time. I'm not doing it how I want
to do it for me. It's like fake gym sessions
and I'm still drinking at the end of the night. True,
it's well yeah, still I'm still doing that. But definitely
(19:46):
when you get focused, you can make it happen. You
saw gonna transform himself like like I was like, this
is not gonna.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
But no, me too.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
Though I went I lost eighty pounds eight zero. Yes,
I got actually, and then I just you know, I
lost motivation. When I was almost there, I was like
right there, like I was in right Eli.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Just hiking just where you were living in La.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
Yeah, it's just bare so much weight. And then I
started going on towards this. I just like started getting
back into the road life habits and just skinned all
my weight back.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
How is being on the road for you? Are you
on the road alone or do you have a family
member with you?
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (20:44):
I have my managers and this couple Noah, now just
like one of my homies, because all of them they
can come to the United States, so they mostly if
it's a Canada show, they'll come.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
So the United States is just as strict as Canada
is with.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Us, Yeah, they can't.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
But for you guys, know, we're so flexible.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
You know what sucks for you guys they kick you
guys out from once you guys land in Toronto or
something that they give you like, oh, you have to
turn around. But for us, it's right before we get
to it's after TSA. We have to go in the
room and they'll let you know from there if you
could fly out.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Now we gotta change that. Tell me I need to
call Open Canada because I can't have the homies talking
about I got to come back.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
It didn't work out. As ship caravaner Caravana talked to me,
it's the best time to be in Toronto. I wanted
to go.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
I've always wanted to go, but my significant other says, no,
I'm not good for girls.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Yeah, yeah, my girl tries to say, it's part of
the culture.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
It is part of the culture.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Are you crazy?
Speaker 3 (21:46):
I go there in the thong's We're gonna wear, you know,
decent clothes. We just want to experience, you know, the culture. No,
I get it. I get it, but everybody used to go.
I always had to stay home. One day, I'm gonna
make it, don't you worry. One day I'm make I'm attacking, Like,
what's money I made?
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Well?
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Yeah, Caravana is just the lttest moment in the summertime
the whole year, because even right around the corner, like
three days later, it's ovo Fest, and then my birthday
lines on the day after Carabano, So it's just like
for me, it's a movie every.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Time that's your birthday week Yeah, one time there.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
It was Caravana weekend.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
I was in DR right before then it was Caravana yeah,
and now it's Caravana.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
No, it's Caravana.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Then I went to DR for a couple of days,
and then I got the word, oh, Ovio Fest got
moved to August sixth, which is my birthday, and like
Drake wants to perform over the top with Smiley and now
I'm like, oh Leon my birthday and I'm in DR
right now again, I'm like this is all to me
A moves so first time performing this together, I'm like,
(22:56):
oh kill okay.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
So then now went back to the city we performed
in and I was just.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Take me back to that Take me back to that day, because.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
You know, I see all the haters in the crowd
on this.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
The haters dad sit on that stage.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Let me tell you, Drake is one of the biggest stars.
I'm not talking rap. I'm just talking, you know, just
star completely. So it's like, how did you even get
your head right to get one?
Speaker 1 (23:21):
I actually tell you the story, which is a crazy story.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Share it with me.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Crazy. Sometimes luck is on my side, so.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
You seem like a very lucky man. I'll tell you
that much.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Yamember, how I told you they moved Ovo Fest. So
at first Ovo Fest was supposed to be I think
like a week or two weeks before, and I was
supposed to perform there too. I had a party I
was doing. I was hosting something, and then Drake messaged
me that YO, come to rehearsals quick, and I'm like, oh,
(23:49):
I left my party, I went to rehear I went
to rehearsals, and then fucking I started practicing my ship.
I'm like screaming a bit too, but I'm just trying
to be loud because I'm trying to practice.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
You have a microphone.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
I see him doing his rehearsals and I do mines
and then I'm just like the next day I woke
up and I'm like, ho, I lost my voice.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
I was like, are you fuck?
Speaker 3 (24:16):
You did much?
Speaker 1 (24:18):
That's what you did? A Paul.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
I'm like, Yo, what the heck come up to miss
on this big one?
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Disgusting with yourself?
Speaker 4 (24:26):
Yeah, I'm like, there's no way I can even go
and fake it, like it'll be so stupid, like you know.
So I'm like, I'm getting ready to like let everyone
know I can't do it. Then I see an Instagram
post Drake cart covid moving overal fast.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
You're like, yes, I don't want to tell these people
to have a voice.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
So I was like yes.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Then now that's when I was in dr and then
found out they moved it to my birthday and.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
I was like, yeah, so that first time that you
got on stage with Drake, like, how are your nerves?
How are your nerves waited to walk in?
Speaker 4 (25:00):
So I'm there with all my like my sister, my
brothers and stuff with there Nicki, Minaja's performing with They're
just watching it. You know that I have my in ears.
Now I'm like, okay, They're like, so I has to
come backstage quick. He's about to go on. I'm there
walking back there like noodles, Like my legs are noodles.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I can't even walk. I feel like I can't walk.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
I'm like fuck. So then you know I went there though.
But as soon as you're on stage and say yeah,
you just say how come here?
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (25:33):
It was a movie from once I was on stage,
so I shut out the boy.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Man.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Get that to you, man, because let me tell you,
people that do this all the time, they're like they're
nervous every single time. So for you to be, you know,
a newcomer, a young guy, and to get on stage
with Drake rock it out and feel confident about it
because I was.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Like the year right before they did it, or two years,
because I don't think they had it the year before
I open off the show. Then I was just like hoh, crickets,
Like I'll put for it for like twenty minutes.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
I'm not shaking the room for nothing. I'm like, holy shit,
what is this going to be done?
Speaker 3 (26:10):
It happens and it's like.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
Fast forward and now I'm on the actual Drake set
list and it's night time, you know, the night show.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
It's a different type of energy.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
We have our Powerhouse concert that happens in October and
that first set, you know, that opening act, I'm like.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
No, please, can we wait?
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Half the people are not here yet, So I totally
understand where you're coming from with that as far as.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
Yeah, so it's a super blessing. Thank God that like
that happened. I was a super good feeling.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Do people believe this story because I'm still here and disbelief, like, wow,
all of this happened to you?
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Yeah, I have a.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Thousand different stories, Like, you know, I could go out
for days.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Well now this is like just the overall umbrella of
everything that has happened to you. And you go from
like being behind bars and you know, your life possibly
you know, taking the turn for the worst, to becoming
you know, a world known star, you know, lined up
with Drake, who's one of the biggest rap stars.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah, yeah, actually yeah, I look at it sometimes I'm like.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Do you believe in God?
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (27:18):
I'm like says yeah, because God got allowed to do it.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Looking in the sky. Yeah, what the fuck am I
doing here?
Speaker 3 (27:25):
You're like, how did this?
Speaker 1 (27:27):
What the heck is going on? No?
Speaker 4 (27:30):
No, I used to ask those questions a lot, But
now I get it. I'm like, what the fuck did
ask her?
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Why am I here? I know? Crazy?
Speaker 3 (27:37):
You were talented, yes, but you know there's a million
talented people that this.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Does not happen for so I hope you understand. You
know how blessed you are.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
For sure? For sure?
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Did your girl ever tell you I don't want you
to be a rapper when you started like getting into music.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Yeah, Like she never told me that because she met
me as a rapper she met. Yeah, but what she
did do, like she got like when I got my
face tattoos?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Where's she from? She's trying. She's Jamaican, the Caribbean girl. Listen,
we not with the face tattoos.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
I know.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
So she's just say so Bob stands for my like
my slogan by or by buy something, I buy it,
get all, yeah, you get it. So that now tattooed, Yeah,
I would have been mad. I came back to a car.
She didn't know she was waiting in the car. I'm like,
I'm gonna get tattooed quick, just you know. So she
(28:31):
was pregnant. She didn't want to she didn't want to
come inside.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Oh your dad.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Yeah, oh my god, congratulations, thank you boy or girl.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Girl. She's about to turn seven November nineteen.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Seven years old. Yeah yeah, well you look seventeen.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
So you just came back to the car and I
came back to the car with a face.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Tatt Yeah, she's like, what the fuck?
Speaker 3 (28:53):
I would have been mad to listen.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
I'm not even gonna take your side on this one
because I would have been like, did you just tattoo
your face?
Speaker 4 (28:59):
She's just like you, like, imagine that when we go
to the teacher school meeting.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
She's thinking of the kids. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
I'm like she's like, imagine what they're gonna say. Like
and I'm like, bro, like think I business now joke.
I didn't say that, but like, yo, what do you mean?
Like this is a way of me. Like I was
telling myself like there's no pand B. This is I
can't go get a job now it's full rapper mom.
You know, I'm like, Yo, there's no you.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Were locking yourself into being a celebrity and an artist.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
And what's so ironic now? Like my daughter's school like
they love.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Me because they love your personality.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
They know all like yo, oh this song with Drake
that everything. They're just so like anytime going to school,
super love like.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Then they were able to look past your ink.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
But you know, a part of the fucking school board.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
People the best people.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
But you know, girlfriends and wives always like why would
you tattoo your face?
Speaker 3 (30:03):
What do we have to go to the white House?
Speaker 1 (30:05):
They like me more than her.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
They're going by person, shout out to your girl, Like
you know, it's not easy, you know, especially you know,
having someone that's in the limelight and you know, women
and groupies and being on tour and she's not always
going to get to be there.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Even yeah, you know, but that shout out to her
because she's strong and like she super holds it down
and stuff. But like even like yesterday is sorry, yeah,
so what to a lotto party? Right? And fucking she
got up mad at me, like you know, it's my
favorite artists.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
That's just a little bit of jealous because it was
a lot of a lot of.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Because that's actually a favorite artist.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
You know, I want to beat it.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
And I was just like, oh, you didn't even think
of me. But it's like I'm not even thinking like that,
you know, But.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
I don't worry honey, but a lotto come over there
to Canada. I'm going to I'm going to bring you
back to You're gonna do the picture. It's gonna happen.
But I can see, you know, it's kind of like fomo.
She's watching you. You know, you're out there, you're doing
all these things, and she's back home with baby.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Yeah, she's gonna.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Be like on the other side of Yeah, she sees
actually like my heights and rolls, you know.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Oh she knows.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
You know all of you.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Treat good man is this industry is wicked and if
you have someone at home you know that loves you
and loved you from day one. Yeah, without all the
glitz and glamour, without the money, without the cold signs,
that's your day one.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Yeah, for sure that there you go, Argentina.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Did you book it yet? Come on, I thought you
were going to come and be like, yeah, I'm going.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
I want to go as soon.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
I'm a goal probably a couple of months right now,
Like I'm about to go to London and then Mexico,
so kind of.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Just performances or visiting what are you doing.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Performing performing parties? Bringing me out to the show and
then Mexico. I'm doing a feature out there.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
So who are you working with? Americo?
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Talk about local artists from Toronto. His name is crow Crow.
What's the how do you say the bird that birds?
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Yeah? Crow I always I would say it's so fun.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Because you first learned French and then later on you
learned English.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Yeah, French is my first language and English.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Yeah, your father speaks French like from back, like his lineage.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
My mom and my dad speaks French.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
So yeah, who decided you were going to learn English
or is that just a regular thing in Canada?
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Regular thing?
Speaker 4 (32:46):
Yeah, it's a regular thing, especially because even after my because.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
You know, we're here in America, we only learn English.
We don't learn French too. That's why I you know,
you learn.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Vote well because when my dad left, we lived with
my too, Like she's super like French and English, but
like she'll speak English a lot too, and his sister
or my mom's sister. That's why, like me and my cousins,
you just grew up in the same house.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Is this going to be your first time going to Mexico?
Speaker 1 (33:15):
No, No, second time you've been.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Yeah, have you been to where your mother's from?
Speaker 1 (33:19):
No? I never why I need to go with her.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
But do you know where she's from, like where's her.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
Town or yeah, but my mom was adopted, so that's
why I kind of like, I don't speak Spanish too,
and she doesn't speak Spanish.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
But originally she's from Mexico.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
Yeah, okay, so that's why now I want to learn
Spanish because I'm like, you know, my grandma speaks six different.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Languages on your mom's side or on your side, she's
a genius.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
That's like, holy Leah, I need to step up my game.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Listen, two languages an't more than enough. Okay, I got to,
you got to. We don't need no more.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Now. I speak Spanish and I.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Speak English, but I can totally understand Portuguese and Italian,
like I can communicate with someone in Portuguese or Italian.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
It's so similar to the Spanish. I tried French.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
I used to go to classes, but it just wouldn't
go in. We would go to La Leon's Francis. That's
like we have it out here and you go learn,
and you'd spend all this money trying to learn and
just doesn't work. I went to Paris, I knew nothing,
really shit they hated me. Then now talk to me
about twenty twenty five. What's the role out? I know,
(34:29):
I know twenty twenty five is planned out. What is
your goal for twenty twenty five personally and professionally?
Speaker 1 (34:35):
All right?
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Personally, I feel like, you know, twenty twenty five, I
want to get my super weight loss journey down packed?
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Okay, like where I want to be you just got
to lock in.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
Mentally it's sober. I want to be full fully sober. Musically,
I feel like I want to and I know it's
going to be a manifesto.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
I want it to be a manifestation.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Yo, It's so crazy you say that. Like in one
of my I was like, let's be a king of manifestation.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
You really are get a crown.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
Kind of like it's gonna be the year I'm gonna
really be calling major super major artists.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
You know, what do you consider would make you a
super major artist?
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Like two three let's say, like right away, two hits
in a row by yourself, right away you'll be called
major artists. You know, like when I did over the Top,
if I was to follow up right away and get
it actually next hit right there out of being like
super like major, you know, and then if I was
to follow that one up again. So it's just kind
(35:41):
of being consistent with the hits right away.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
So we're gonna do a weight loss journey and sobriety journey,
and we're gonna get two back to back joints. That's
gonna put you over the top.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Over the top.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Yes, I love this for you.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Man.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Tour life, what are you thinking?
Speaker 4 (35:58):
Yeah, a tour out here like in the States, and
I'm tired of touring in Canada.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
You know, come on over.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
Yeah, Like I've done a couple of shows out here,
but I want to actually have my own. That's another goal,
to have a US tour. Iroball be like when I know,
like I'm really making serious noise.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
It's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Like as you said, you're the king of manifest and
you write all that down what you just told me,
and I'm going to be watching out. I'm no.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
And it's so crazy.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
My when I like I first started again, I like
media training and stuff, and my lady trainer like she
told me something. She's like, yo, right down all your
stuff that like in four years we'll talk again and
we're like we'll see what you accomplish and everything you
say you want to accomplish in these four years, you know,
(36:50):
And then.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
I love your media trainer. Listen to me to train
a hustle. She'll have me this plan for four years.
So the writing everything.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Down stuff on that paper, it was just say.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
You already yeah, like holy, so you need a new list?
Oh yeah, I need to finish the list so that yeah, soon.
Do you know what's on there still that you want
to get done?
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Ah?
Speaker 3 (37:13):
I'm digging to.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
Do you have to look at it, all right?
Speaker 2 (37:17):
What are we pushing right now? What is the project
that you're currently focused on?
Speaker 1 (37:21):
All right? So I dropped my tape Don't Box Me in?
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Oh, don't box me? Yeah, don't box Don't box me.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
And don't Box me in ever So yeah, I'm still
promoting that but right now, about to drop some of
new music soon for you guys.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
More slappers on the way.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
What we get? Do you know anything? Do you know
what you're trying to put out?
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Features some big feature?
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Hold on spill the teaing the song like that was
a good right?
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Yeah? Like you stop trying to spill the tea. You
know we live.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
Especially you know journalists and interviewers. That's what we live for.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
No, for sure, for sure we.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
Try and get that break.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
We're trying to say, you know, Smiley Reveals and Come
Again podcast co album with Drake Anyway, anyway, I'm just manifested.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
I know you guys from New York. I need you
guys to get me that. What's your Cardi B feature?
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Trying to get a Cardi BF. Yes, we gotta make
we gotta talk to a man. He's the one with
the plug. You know, everybody you don't want to make
a Cardi B feature, No man, But I want to
thank you so much, you know, for sitting down with
me today. I really was excited to get to know you.
Super proud of you. And when I read your story
and you know what you've been able to accomplish, and
(38:36):
you know manifest.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
I'm big on manifesting.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
A lot of people don't understand the importance of it
and putting things out in the universe.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
Yes, it's so serious that like you have to actually
really sleep and dreaming.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
You have to dream about your manifest, wake up and
give it to fall out of love with it and
fall back in love with it.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
I love thank you so much, for sitting down with
us today. Man, we're gonna be watching your career. You're
super dope. Big shout out to Drake. I'm glad you
know that. You know, stuff happened, but you know he's
still that big mega star. You know that we all
admire and we all respect for sure.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
Coming Grassiers Come Again is a production of Honey German
Productions in partnership with Iheart's microen through that podcast network.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Yeah Yeah,
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