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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Come Again, a podcast by Honey German.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Welcome, Geezly, Hello, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
I was just telling you behind the scenes, I was
excited to see what color hair you're gonna have today.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Sal came natural today because you know, I'm feeling natural
for the holidays.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
You know, You're like, I'm gonna do less for the holidays.
Less is more I feel. But I love this hair
color on.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
You, Thank you, thank you. I gotta get used to it,
you know, because I feel like I had it all
my life. So I'm like, I'm tired of it. I
want to dye my hair, but my mom is like, no,
you're not your red hair. You're not gonna die your hair.
People pay for that. So that's why I started doing
wigs and I change in it and I love them.
You get it.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
The pink is my favorite.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Oh yeah, I'm min too. I kind of like burnt
it out.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
You kind of did. But it looks good on you.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yeah, thank you. I don't know, Oh see what I do.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
What's the first color you experiment to it? When it
comes to hair?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Burgundy? That dark red like the burgundy color I experienced
with that one, and I was loving it, and I
wore for like three months because it was like the
only wig I had.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Listen, wait to suspense expensive me.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I'm on for a good wig because we don't do
bad wigs. Never babe ugly fit but my wig.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
But you know, in the defense of new artists, like
I remember Joja Cat at the beginning, the wigs, it's
just they're so expensive, and you know, eventually you graduate
to better wigs. But you know, if you're out there,
you're just getting started. You don't got the bread for
a wig. You could rob the cheap wig for now.
Me later on things are gonna get better. But you
was like, were you signed like early in the game,
(01:34):
because I feel like you look like an artist, like fully,
yeah for a while. Now I'm talking like the clothing,
I'm talking the videos. There's money there. Who's financing all this?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
I mean, I have a great team, thank god. Okay,
I'm grateful. I'm independent, not signed.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Oh you're independent?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Independent? So what's your relationship with Empire? We have a
distribution Okay, yeah, but we're about to be done already.
I have two projects and now I'm about to move
on and see what the future holds for me.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
You know who decided she's a star. I'm gonna put
everything behind her. Was it a family member, was it
a business partner who said, you are star. We're gonna
make this happen.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
My manager right there where he's said today right here?
What's his name? Javier? They call him GWAP Thanks to him,
you know, he saw the vision.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Okay, believed Wop come into your life. So talk to me.
We got a little bit of time.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
So like I used to do music myself and posted
on YouTube, like I saw that I didn't know nothing
about nothing.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
You was just you know, doing your thing. You were like, yeah,
I'm an artist. And then I went to d R
and I did it then bo Okay, but I'm like,
you know what, I'm tired of putting music on YouTube
and I'm not getting no results.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I'm gonna hold this.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Okay, the team. So how did you end up in DR?
You can't just be like I went to DR? Like,
did you link with somebody online?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Like I you every summer since I was a kid,
I was going to DR every summer. Okay.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I read that you had your babysitter who turned you
into a you know, an honorary Dominican.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Ya to cause everybody thinks I'm Dominican and I'm not.
But so what happened was I met an artist in
dr That's how I got into the music in dr Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
So I met an artist in dr while going in
the summertime. Yes, I was already in dr Okay and
he does them both. His name is Chucky the Law.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
He's like from the Brio, Barrio, Barrio. So I go
over there. I go to the studio and he's like,
look up mont Dumbli, so like, put a verse down.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
You were just hanging out on a study, just hanging out, chilling.
They grab the mic.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Yeah, and I'll put a verse down because I was
doing English already. I'm like, you know what, let me
try it. And we did it. We did the video
the next day and he posted it and it was
lit and I loved it. I fell in love with
the culture everything. So then I did my own and
I was tucking it. I'm like, you know what, I
gotta find the right move for this. So I come
back to the States and I was hitting up promoters like, oh,
(03:46):
let me open up for the artists because it was
it was a showing anker.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I love your hustle already, thank you.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
It was a showing was performing. He was performing, and
I hit him up the promoter. I'm like, hey, can
I open up, like, let me open up whatever. I
love this and he was like sure, come come, So
I win. I performed, and then I see.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
How nervous were you?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Ah, so nervous, super nervous. But every time I like
once they passed me to Mike, it just leaves.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Really, because I've met so many artists that like it'll
never get better.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
It leaves.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Do you go into like a numb mode?
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yeah, like I don't feel nothing, I don't see nothing.
I just see straight, like I don't bear. Yeah, because
if I if I fuck up, it's over, you know.
So I see him. We followed each other for a
little while on Instagram, and I knew he was like
with the music he was working with Kiko, So I
hit him up like, Yo, I have this song. I
want to do something with it, but I need a team,
(04:41):
Like I want to do it right, can you help me?
You know? It was ignoring me for a couple of times,
but I kept going.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
He said, look at it.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
And then eventually he heard the song. He liked it
and it was up from there. He took me to
dr we shot the video and yeah, that's how giz
and Top Level got together, thank god. And from there,
you know, it's been history.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Well, I got to tell you this much. You look good,
thank you. The music sounds good, the videos are good,
the styling is good, the hair, the makeup. I'm like,
she's there already. It's like, but you look so good
presently to be such a new artist. Your team is
doing an amazing You're doing your part with the music
and they're doing their part with the image. Do you
(05:25):
still style yourself?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yeah? And my I have my friend. Her name is Geraldine.
She helps me a lot too. She you know, she
has like a crazy vision and it matches mind.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Is she the one behind old LV glasses?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
No, that's me. I was like, she love herself, my
little signature glasses. I wanted to make my own actually okay,
like the style possible with the giz Lei logo or something,
but we waste like a bit different.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
But you're not trying to get to Bucci just yet,
not yet, not yet. Give it a little break now,
Dominican culture. Can we talk about it? Because I was like,
I'm Domindican myself, and I was like.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Where you're from, Nasi.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
And you know, like you, I used to go back
all the summers, you know, come back, go to school,
spend the summer right there. But the way you've embraced
Dominican culture, do you like it when they say, like,
does it bother you or just you?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
I really don't like when they call me no okay honestly,
because is that like an insult? No, No, definitely not
an insult, But I feel like it boxes me in, okay,
because I don't just do them bo, you know, like bo.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
So that's why a lot of people do call me.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Because I saw it like in the in the articles.
Because I like to really research.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
They do call me, but I do more like I do,
don't try to go international, you know, touch every branch.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I said, no, Claudodond, I got gut and I saw
Carol g one of your influences.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
I love her. She's amazing, she's great. She's a tremendous artist.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Oh that she is. What she's done for women, you know,
and like you said, you know she does everything, all
types of.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Music, she does, and that's just really like what I'm
trying to be. I'm just trying to be great in
every field.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
And there is so much space to exist in. When
it comes to Latin music, you can do you can
do them. You can exactly now. Dominicans love you.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
I love them too.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Dominicans claim you.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah, real bad.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
She's a real bad, real bad. We want to own you.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Thanks to my my babysitters. You know, she's her name
is Maria. She's from Bow. They speak all the time.
I check on her. Do you make it?
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Ma?
Speaker 2 (07:47):
She's like in shack, she's in shock. She must be
so proud, very proud, very proud, and I love her,
and you know, thank you to Mariana. She told me
how to cook, to make the song. She told me
how to clean good toilet. So when idle, she had
like a bunch of figuritas, you know, the figoritas and
(08:09):
all the Dominican houses. Yeah, I had to clean and
buy one each fiorita every time. So like but like
little things like that I'm grateful for now, you know,
because it taught me a lot, like how to clean
properly because my mom, like my mom was always there too,
but she was always working, you get it.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Yeah, No, that's definitely a thing. You know, somebody got
to pay the rent, somebody got to buy the clothes,
somebody got to pay for the vacations.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
My mom. Hold it down, but hold it down to
your mom's in the b X. Yeah, she's in the Bronx.
She's here. She speaks English and Spanish, so she's from
Buy your mown, Puerto Rico.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I saw that. When's the last time you went to
Puerto Rico?
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Oh for a premio? Who went too?
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Okay? Yeah, now you go outside on like venture or
did you just go in for the premios and came
back home? I actually just went for the premios.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
But the last time I went, like to buy your
mom to where I'm from, like a year ago, Like
a year ago, right, we went like a year ago.
I went to wayamong to it's based with my family
because all my family is there. I don't have family here.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Oh really.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Don't? All right? Jaylen Junta. Yeah, the the way that
she's gone viral, it's just insane. I adore her. She
definitely like, what are you guys working on? I know
you got to be working on something because I saw
it and you're scary because I saw the picture and
(09:29):
I was like, let me Slatter's.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Main bing Bong Part three or five six.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
I would love.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I love for the girls though, like I love the girl.
I love what all the girls is doing right now
in the English and the Spanish, you know, like they're
killing it. I feel like this is a girl year
and it's just gonna get better.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
It definitely was, you know, like with the rappers. You know,
it's like it was the year of the female when
it came to hip hop, and even you know, even
when it came to like, you know, our Alana artists,
it was the same exact way. Right now, what's the
(10:21):
plan for twenty twenty five? Talk to me? What is
your main focus?
Speaker 2 (10:25):
My main focus is right now. I'm really just focused
on recording and okay, stacking up music to have for
any artist that comes that hits me up or that
I reach out to, oh, send me a song, Like
let's say.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
You want to be ready with a little five pack,
you understand.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
I just sitting there for any occasion yo, oh man,
I got this for you, this for you like stuff
like that. And I want a network. I want to
meet a lot of people and yeah, stuff like that.
I just want to keep growing. I'm not gonna be
unrealistic and say I want to do the Madison Square
Garden next year. I definitely do. I know not.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Let's manage us, Let's put it out there in the
unit very soon, very very soon.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
That's what I'm just trying to I'm just working on
a better me. You know.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Now you write, you're rhyme everything.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Everything.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I love to write. I write. My writing process is
a little different.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
What is it like?
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Like I could be talking to you right now, yeaga,
I'll go to my head and I'll write it in
my notes like a line, and I'll come back to
it later. But if I sit in the studio, I
go back to that line, and that line will start
the story for me, and I just tell the story
from there. Like all my songs are like a story.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
What's the quickest you ever wrote a song?
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Oh the Bluehead? Yeah, versus with MRG. I wrote that
in like fifteen minutes. I swear fifteen minutes because I
guess like it's also about the vibe in the studio,
the energy.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Who do you allow in your studio, like in your
space when you're working.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
So I don't like a lot of people. I'll tell
you that Okay, I don't like randoms. I don't like
I really just like being the producer. It throws you off, yeah,
because a lot of people like to put opinions. Like
I take opinions, you know, I take criticism, but when
I'm in my zone.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
But it depends where's from right exactly.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
But when I'm in my zone, I just like to
lock in. Let me do it, and then you tell
me you hear it, and then you tell me what
could take off, what I could change? Stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
So how do you deal with social media? You're still
big on social media because everybody has an opinion on
social media? Do you look at comments? Do you reply
or do you just kind of like post.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
And go Honestly, Yeah, honestly I do look at comments,
and I'll be wanting to reply to the bad comments
all the time.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
But your manager but be like, no, no, no, we're doing something.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
You're not going to give them attention. No, And I'd
be like, you know what, You're right, because when I
come back, when I clap back, everybody's gonna be like, oh,
who's that person?
Speaker 1 (12:38):
You don't oh would be.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
And don't say I just try to ignore it. I
just erase it and block it. But sometimes you're really
be getting to me because they be it's personally, they
be going crazy. Sometimes I'll be like, damn, what did
I do to you? You don't even know what is
part of it? So I just take it like, Okay.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Now, what was life before you be? Came?
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Gesily? My life before?
Speaker 1 (13:04):
How do you like to say your name? It's like
I want to say, it's so many different ways? Did geese? Okay?
Speaker 2 (13:10):
My life?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Is that why the l's capital?
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah, emphasize on the L. But my life before Geese,
I was a bartender in your bartender in the Bronx
Queens stuff like that, anywhere I might not oh Starlet's,
Oh I know Sarlett's. I worked there for a month.
It's not for me. Bartender for one year and it
(13:33):
was it's not for me. I like, I don't know,
I don't know. I suck at conversating. Okay, yeah, I
gotta work on that. I gotta work on that. And
I'm just shy, like well not now, but before I
was shy, like to just go up to people, talk
to people. I'm like, you know what, you know? What
do I move trucky?
Speaker 1 (13:48):
So was that your one job as an adult.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Oh no, no, okay, that was just right before Geese Lee.
I did work as a paralegal in Wall Street.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Oh get out of here.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Yeah for about seven months.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Okay, that was great.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
It was a good experience, and that's about it. That
was really my only job. I never had a real
job like that.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Okay, we'll take it. Parallel. You a bartender, superstar? Why not?
I like that story.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
As a baseball player, only girl, I saw that only
girl my baseball team. I was second base and catcher.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Oh you Dominican, Dominican.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
And then I rode their bikes on the street. I
saw that too, and if you can see, I got
to burn. Let me see. Okay, so it's almost gone.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
And I kept getting arrested because I would be in
the streets with the pack and they would come for
me because I'm the girl.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
I can't believe these cops really targeted you because I
saw the weakest link. They're like, we're gonna lock up
the girls' fourth time.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
You know what, you know the bio, you.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Have a criminal record behind that good.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
They'll just take me like in the in the pre
sint and they'll let me go. They like because I
don't have a criminal history.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
So who got you into bike life?
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Me and myself just on Instagram looking at videos. He
was like to and I went and bought my friend
his bike. I went and hustled for my first bike.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
What was it? What was the first bike?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
It was a KX eighty five, a lime green one beautiful.
I went and bought a US off some guy in Jersey,
took it home. I didn't have nowhere to park it.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Did you know how to drive it a little bit? Not?
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Oh my god, I love you a little bit and
I want I didn't have nowhere to park it, and
I brought it upstairs to my mom's house.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
No, you did not bring the bike into your mother's
living room.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
And my mom had had a small one bedroom. Oh
so you'll still be going a semotoel and you know
the gas it smelled like the oil like you smell it,
and it's strong. So I put I had to put
like a T shirt around the motor and stuff so
it didn't smell. And I kept it there for like
a week, pocket for it. So she kept yelling at me. Ready,
(15:52):
So thank god. In the in the basement, I didn't
even know there was storages. Look at the storage units.
God wanted you to have motorcycles. They had storage units.
So I ended up getting a storage down there and
putting it there for now. But then like two months later,
I got it stolen.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Claudogacy, people can't.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
I got it stolen from where the precinct? How you
still a bike out the precsint? But me, they gave
it to one of their kids. Cloudogacy like somebody that
get broken the preescint and stole it the lot.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Oh, but it was in the precinct because you had
gotten locked up.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yes, And they took the bike and I needed to
go back with paperwork. I didn't have to write papers. Yeah,
And then I'm like, you know what. Then months later
I bought the cry five, which is a Honda. I
customed this supreme seats. My name was engraved and everything.
It was beautiful. Stolen again, and I'm like, you know what,
you can't have nothing nice in New York. I'm done.
I'm moving on and I went to music.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
But you know what, that probably saved your life, because
you know, we all know bike life is not.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
I couldn't God forbid to Sava died or something.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
That was another part of your life, bartender, part of
paralegal bike life. You're a mom too, right, Yes, I am.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I am a mom. I've been a w since I
was fourteen.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
How many kids do you have?
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Three?
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Three children?
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yeah? My son is about to be fourteen.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
You lying you have a fourteen year old?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Yeah, he's going to be fourteen on Christmas.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Oh, happy birthday to him.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Yeah, thank you. That was like kind of tough, but
not that tough because thank god I have my mom.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
I was just going to ask you that at fourteen,
how did that work?
Speaker 2 (17:23):
It's a lot of judging because you're a little kid, Yeah,
and I judging.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
It's just the lack of life experience.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Yeah, Like I didn't really get to live my life
yet until now. I feel like now is that I'm
you know, and you're living in with him?
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Right, And he's just hype and proud like he likes it.
He just don't like the camera. You don't like pictures.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
But I feel like that's all teenagers. Don't show me,
don't put me on video, don't put me on your Instagram.
How old are the other two?
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Seven and five? Will got to be five? Oh?
Speaker 1 (17:49):
You busy, busy, very busy, Like, how do you manage.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Thanks to my village?
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Who's part of your village?
Speaker 2 (17:58):
My mom? Okay, it's grandma and their dad.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Oh amazing. Okay, that's about it. So their dad is
still here and helping you.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah, very much. You know they help me with everything
anything else. You're still in a relationship with him, No, no, okay,
we're good friends.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Okay. I was gonna say, like, how is he taking
all this? But he doesn't really have much to say
about this, right, Yeah, that's old already. Okay, So you
don't have anybody kind of like, you know, hindering, like
don't go here, don't do this, don't wear that.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Can't nobody tell me what to wear. Even if I
had a boyfriend, I'm not gonna have no control and
telling me I can't wear this and can't wear that me.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
But you know, because somebody, but again that's opinion, be that.
But so that's amazing, Like creatively, you know, style wise
and everything. You're free to be who you are.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Thank god.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
The kids are the only ones you take into consideration.
I'm pretty sure exactly do they tell you, like mommy, no, air,
so don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
They love it. My daughter loves my wigs, but I
do the colored hair. She love it, she loves all that.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
It's so crazy how it's like you're influencing your children
through what you're doing, and it's like you're giving them
a whole nother hour look now, like they're like, wow,
look at Mom. She's on TV, she's on a red carpet,
she's doing a video, and it's yeah, you were young, mom,
but look at how now you're influencing them in such
a positive way. Because we all know that, you know,
(19:14):
being a mom at fourteen can turn into a very
big mess if you don't have the right support.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Definitely, definitely, definitely. I feel like if I didn't have
my support, I wouldn't even be gasy today, you know,
because I wouldn't even be able to do anything or
go anywhere. You understand, you know, being an artist, you
got to travel.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Because kid's a little still like they need they need
parenting and they need supervision. You can't leave them alone.
The fourteen year old can't take care of the other two.
So Mom, don't play with me. Please we go. We
gotta keep mom happy, make sure she getting everything she wants.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah, and that's about it. I just try to keep
a great relationship with my mom, so I don't have
no you know, we can't start no drama with mom. Okay, no,
she helps me way too much. I can I can't.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
We can't have mom on our bath side. Okay, never
know before you go home, they Yakom.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
That was when we was younger. The relationship wasn't all
the way you.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Know, Gray, it was probably tumultuous. You had a baby
at fourteen. I'm sure your mother was not happy about that.
That was probably the beginning of the drama. If nine,
you know.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Yeah, and I didn't know I was pregnant, so I
was six months.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
How did you still make not grow?
Speaker 2 (20:31):
That was this skinny, no stomach, no nothing in my
period but the whole time, not the whole time, So
I was like six months. You know what's crazy.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
I've seen that show. I didn't know I was pregnant,
and I'm like, that can't possibly be real.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah, it's real. I never got no sickness, no nausea,
no nothing. And then one day to the next, it
just I just grew a stomach.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Like to mama, she must have went crazy because same
MESSI twice Bardege, same messy.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
It was crazy. Sorry, mom, I didn't know it was
so bad. It was bad.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Well, I'm glad you know we're on the other side.
She loves your son. Your son is here, he's with us.
He's a blessing. But I can only imagine how scared
you were at fourteen years old.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
And when at the time that my belly popped out.
I was in my dad's house for the summer wo
for like ten I was there for like fifteen days.
So my mom went on a cruise. And why mom
is on a cruise, Mom is on a cruise.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Your stomach popped out.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
My stomach pops out while I'm in my dad's house.
I couldn't even hide it. So my step mom she
sits me down at the dinner table with my dad,
my step mom, my stepsister, my sister, and me, and
she goes to my dad, Oh, do we have to dinner?
Speaker 1 (21:40):
How to go get the seat? She's doin she's Columbian.
Oh even worse, So she just sets straight up.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Your daughter got signed to tell you. I couldn't even
say it. I had a not in my I couldn't
say it. So she just said it, your daughter's pregnant.
I'm scared now and it's it's just a story. And
I was thirteen at the time. It was crazy, but
I feel like everything happens for a reason. Yes, it's
a crazy life, Like my life is crazy. One day
I'll do a documentary.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
How do you end up getting the name? Where'd you
get it? Yeah? Because I saw that your name is Samantha.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Yeah, so before that it was sam Geez. In high school, Okay,
why this is weird? But like I was always the
girl that was with the boys, tumboy, the guy I
didn't have, like a girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
You was the homie.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
So they called me like the gangster girl, you know,
like the gangster. So they put GE's for gangsters. Oh okay,
I see where and then und I was cutting class
in the hallway. I do not recommend, don't cut class.
I was cutting class in the hallway and Clinton High
School and somebody goes jeezy and there it is and
I look back. It's my boy. He's like, you know what,
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that's money. That's gonna be my rat name capital L
And yeah, that was the history behind that.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
You started spending like in high school.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
No, Like when I was like nineteen, I posted like
a freestyle on Instagram?
Speaker 1 (23:04):
What prompted you?
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Like, do you remember when act Up act Up came
out from City Girls? That's when I started.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
So you was like, I could do this.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I did a freestyle to that. I did a free
I was sitting in the car. Is it still out
there now? It's on my SoundCloud but it's private? Okay,
got it? But I did a bit on my phone.
I'm like, sound, I'm hearing the beat. I'm like, you
know what I'm recording. I posted, and I posted. Everybody
went crazy, like you was both. It was crazy.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
It was crazy, and you know it's crazy that you
can go in Spanish or you can go in English.
That's not something that everybody can do.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Like, yeah, she ate because I do. I speak like
that regularly. So I feel like it wasn't an issue
to put it into music, you know, because I grew
up speaking English and Spanish.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Mine, like, you know, but everybody can't do that, trust me,
you know what I'm saying. Like I we linked up
with least Mine. You know, she's super dope, but her
English it's limited. J No, she's super dope, but her
English is limited. But here you are, your English and
your Spanish are both.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Fluently because like some people like they'll do it, but
you'll hear the accent or you'll hear you sound.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Perfect in both ways. I was watching and I was like, wow,
I was like, she ate that shit up.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
I'm just trying to I'm just trying to have people
actually take the Spanish seriously. Like that's what I'm doing too,
you know, because I don't feel like we have like
a real market for Spanish, like you get it.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Oh, of course I get it, trust me. Like my
last podcast it was called life in Spanglish because a
lot of us live this way, especially the ones that
are born and raised here. That's how That's how we live,
that's how we exist. Even doing my interviews, it's like
I go back and forth between English and Spanish, and
sometimes when it's somebody that only speaks Spanish, I feel
like I struggle because I can't interject English, or even
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when it's only English, I'm like thinking, and I'm like,
I want to say this in Spanish, but I can't.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Exactly. That goes back to a video I posted, and
that it was saying that sometimes I feel too Spanish
for the English and too English for the spanis, so
I don't feel like I feel like I have no
place like doing light it, you understand.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
No, I definitely feel just like, you know, it's like
Latinos is like, oh, she's kind of like americanized exactly.
Americans is like, oh, she's Latina. So I feel I
see what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
You're kind of like, yeah, being from New York, like
that's normal.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
But then we have Cardi. I feel even though Cardi
leans in more on the American and black side, but
I feel like she's Latina enough and American enough, you know,
to kind of like flow in and out of both.
Oh yeah, I just feel like Staki Daki was huge.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
I just feel like you could feel it, like the
full soundness in the Spanish a little bit with Cardi.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Oh yeah, no, it doesn't understand. Yeah, I stell what
you're saying. It's kind of like premeditated. I guess that's
the word we're.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Looking, not fluent fluent with it, but yeah, I mean
I love Cardi.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
That's kind of like when Nikki does Spanish. I love nick.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Yeah, I loved it though I lived for it.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
And I like Nicki Minaj speaking Spanish. I don't know
why every time I see her in an interview or
doing anything in Spanish, I'm like, I love this for her.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Yeah, she's great. I love Nikki.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
But I see, I see where you're feeling right now.
But trust me, it's like I feel like there's such
a shift right now. We're the biggest thing Latinos, the
way we consume the music we put out. Latino records
go diamond. English records don't do that every day, like
what we have in Momento. Okay A Mimo Eladio is
(26:27):
another one that you know, he goes. He's kind of
like you you know what I'm saying, Like as far
as the flow, and it feels natural in both instances,
it doesn't feel but again, he was born and raised here.
I feel like you're all starting this new wave of
like artists that were born and raised here that want
to exist in both space.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Exactly my point, Like I don't want to be all
the Spanish girl in the English world or oh and
you shouldn't you understand, like when.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Are we outside we do both? Like yeah, you know,
it's crazy this conversation that we're having right now. It
brought me back to your rants. When's the last time
you did a rant. You want to do a rant
right now?
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Who we could do a rant. Let's do it. I
could rant for days. What's been bothering you lately? What's
been bothering me as far as what?
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Anything? Anything? It could be anything. It could be your building,
it could be your car, it could be whatever the
hell that you know.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Instagram Instagram talk to me. Let's rant about Instagram. What's
the problem.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
The algorithm is killing you. It's like, I don't know,
it's like something funny with it. I don't know what's
going on. I don't know if yeah, like I don't
know if it's just my Instagram, but like she's just
been funny. So I've been gravitating to TikTok and like
now that TikTok's gonna.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Go down, it's not right. Can we stop this?
Speaker 2 (27:40):
I heard I heard the Kardashian is buying it. I
heard Kim k is buying TikTok Okay Kim, because you
know North wanted it that dad, like Mom gives me
the tiktoka.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Remember when North got I spice to do the TikTok?
I said, how much money do you have?
Speaker 2 (27:57):
So yeah, I heard she's buying it. I don't know
if it's true, but google this.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
So yeah, Instagram doing the Instagram it's blocking you. You're
common saying where it's supposed to be, your views are
not where it's supposed to be.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
An, I don't know. Something wrong. My followers are going down,
like I don't know, I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Mark Zuckerberg, Right, yeah, whoever see y'all of Instagram?
Speaker 2 (28:15):
That's my Instagram. We've not been trying to reach out
and nobody hit me back, like, come on, let's get
it together.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Uh huh, we got we gotta fix this. We gotta
fix this.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
And also being a female in this in the industry, Yeah,
it's plaining, yes, isn't it? It is?
Speaker 1 (28:29):
What is the most annoying thing about being a female
in the industry? Honestly, talk to me. They all just
want to everybody want to everybody want to know.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Right, yeah, and they'll sell you dreams and like, oh yeah,
everybody's gonna make your doon be about their word.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
That's why I don't like they don't stand on business.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
No, Like, they'll sell you a dream to get you
in the door. But then when it's time to really
push that button, like they not you feel me. If
you don't, they're not gonna shit.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Is super frustrating.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Yeah, that's why I thank god for my team. I
don't have to deal with that.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Good. You have a buffer in between. You don't have
to be on a fan. Yeah, no, I feel you.
And it sucks because it's like you're talented, you're trying
to work, and you're trying to fuck, Like, what is
the problem here? I just want to work. Just treat
me as a male artist. Would you'd exactly have sex
with a male artist?
Speaker 2 (29:17):
No, no you would not. Would you be weird? No
you wouldn't, So stop it.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
And then it's like the energy changes once you know,
at the beginning, everything is cool, and then when they
realize they're not gonna be able to smash, it's like.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Exact, that's the point that they now they start being
funny with you. It's like you don't do anything to you, like,
why am I? Why are you.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Treating me like?
Speaker 2 (29:35):
She's like, please, I just want to work.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
I just want to work.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
I just want to put a track together. That's all
I want.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
But other than that, I mean, you do have advantages though,
as a female, I feel.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
What do you feel? Talk to me? What are the advantages?
Speaker 2 (29:49):
I mean, like a lot of people I don't know,
like they I feel like like producers don't want to
work with you more. But then at the same time,
it's like little motive, you get what I mean, Like
there's always that underlying motive. Well, I don't know. It's
like both, sorry to explain.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Being beautiful, being sexy, being young is always gonna give
for men wanting to take it there.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Yeah, as long as you know how to handle it.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
But it's not always necessary, you know. Like one thing
with me is like I always put off a more
masculine energy because it's don't cross the line exactly. Don't
play with me. It's not possible.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
My guy, My guy, that's why you gotta be aggressive,
Like I feel like that's why my music is aggressive.
When I rap, i'm aggressive. I be with the boys
like I'm aggressive, and they be telling me, yo, you
gotta be more girly, like be more soft, or you're.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
From the Bronx.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
It's natural. We born like being from New York and
especially the Bronx, Like you're just born.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Tough like you are. And then the industry makes you
even tougher when you see people trying to overstep or
trying to take advantage or trying to see you as soft,
and then that makes you revert back to the guard is.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Up exactly because it's not like I'm here asking for
a hand out, like YO, give me this, give me that,
give me this. No. No, I'm here to work for it,
like for me, like I'm a bus mask for it.
But you know a lot of people don't see that.
These dudes are out here being thirsty. It's cool eventually though, oh.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
For sure, you know, and they see the talent, they
see the grind. But men, I feel like they just
always have to try it.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Yeah, you know, men don't like women to be more
superior than them.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Oh they hate it. Are you insane? They hated and
you know what I find insane? You know what I
fight insane When men hate on women? They do. How
do you hate on a female?
Speaker 3 (31:36):
This is a man.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
If you hate on a female, as a man, you
definitely tuck before you go to bed.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
It's true, they do. I've seen a lot of I've
seen a lot of like boyfriend and girlfriend couples, and
like the man will be really hating on his girl,
like don't want her to grow for being successful.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Yeah, I've seen this, So what the hell You're supposed
to be my partner. You're supposed to help me grow. Oh,
you're supposed to support me. You're not supposed to be
hating on me.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Exactly. That's your trade. That's very weird.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
You no me and you could talk about this.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Listen, listen, there's four men in the room, and men
you just forgot that they're here.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
We're like, let's talk about let's talk about these bitch as.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
You got them second guessing the second guessing themselves. But anyways,
unless you already have two albums, right, Yes, I had
two projects, two EPs that came out, then three Sorry,
then three Fight. I was my first one. That was
when I was in my prime prime problem beginning where
I still didn't know my sound yet. I'm still looking
for my sound, but I wasn't as comfortable before than
(32:38):
I am now. And then now with this project, Jesley's
World that I dropped on my birthday August twenty third,
I feel like that's more me.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
How happy are you with that album? I'm very happy,
you know, because sometimes we put things out and we
look back and we're like, I could have done this different.
I could have I'm happy, Yeah, happy.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
I'm very happy because I feel like you can really
understand Gezlee on that tape because you have every type
of song you got, the hip hop you got there.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Who are your hip hop influences?
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Hip hop influences?
Speaker 3 (33:05):
That's a good question.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
You don't Nobody never asked me that. Really, No. They
always ast me Latin Latin, Latin Latin.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Not because you're spit up. Why wouldn't I ask you that?
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Hip hop? I mean, I like nas, Foxy Brown, definitely
classic stuff like that's what my mom used to listen to, so,
like when she would clean the crib.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
How old is your mom right now?
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Oh my god, if I say her age, you'll kill me.
She's in her forties right, No fifties, Oh okay, she
was born sixty nine, all right, So definitely the golden
era of hip hop. Yeah, And like hers was Biggie Smallest,
Faith Evans, all them, all that Jodisy Yes, all that
all that music show. She put me onto that music
and Mary J. Blige, she likes stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
So your mom was more Americanized with the music and.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Then yeah, because she came to New York when she
was twelve. She was born in by your Moncarrico. She
came to New York when she was twelve, so she's
been here ever since. So she's really like New York.
She speaks English fluently, like her things New York. She
like hip hop stuff like that. So I got a
lot of culture, like a lot of my music influences
from my mom growing up. What about that he stood
(34:06):
Puerto Ricans, I said one hundred percas. Oh really, I
love that because you got both, you know, so I
know how to play Gona's really good, yes, and the thembalist.
It's so crazy because you know, I'm cool with Gloria
Stefan's daughter and she plays the them balis too, and
it's it's such a like dope thing to watch, like,
(34:26):
you know, you just make music with your hands.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Who got you to do the balis? And Conga's dad?
Speaker 2 (34:32):
My dad? So he played for the church, Okay, another church.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
I feel like everybody that comes here either did music
through the church, acting through the church.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Yeah. My dad, well, he was always in the church
and he would do music every Sundays and every Tuesday.
Dokaba with the band, so I would go with him sometimes.
So then I took a percussion class in school for
just gonas. It was an after school program. They had
a percussion class and it was a Puerto Rican older
guy that teaching conga. So I'm like, you know what,
(35:03):
I want that and I signed up for it. I
did it for like two years. Yeah. Like I'm very multi,
like like a lot of different.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Things, artistic, multi and very very artistic. Now are any
of your kids taking after you? Oh?
Speaker 2 (35:16):
My son yesterday? Actually, well he's talking about it. Sends
me a song, a three minute song that he did
on his iPad rapping. Is heping? He does rapping and
he's playing the drums. Now, oh nice, that's the seven
year old.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
And look all the seven years you're going to say
the fourteen years.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
No, he's too reserved. He's like he's like a fashion boy.
He likes drip drip and that's the holy I leave
that to his dad's dad do all actually your father?
But yeah, like that's about it. Like my son might
set my middle child. He's the one.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
He's the one going to be got the bug.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Yeah, he got the personality everything, and.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
He's got the perfect mom for it. Yeah, you're going
to teach him everything he needs to know. Now, touring.
Do you want to hit the road touring?
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Let's talk about touring. So I am going on my
first tour really, congratulations, Yes, I'm going hopefully February. Okay,
Jesey Tour East Coast.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
What we're doing? Talk to me, Talk to me.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
We're doing a couple of cities well, Philly, ct uh, Jersey, Houston,
l A, Nice, Orlando, Miami. What's palm?
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Oh you? Yeah, this is all set up already.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Oh, I love this for you.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
This last I'm about to post a Gesele tour soon night.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
You got the creative already, not yet, make it dope.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
I'm waiting for the top of the year. I'm gonna
I'm waiting for like the holiday thing to pass.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
It's like, oh, you don't want anything to get lost,
so much.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
To focus on right now. You have this personal life,
music life. I'm waiting for the holidays to pass by
your and focus. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
I feel like twenty twenty five it's going to be.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
I think so.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Even though you had an amazing twenty twenty four, I
feel it in my soul. Yeah, you're manifesting it. That's
that is.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
I've manifested a lot of things that actually happened, So
I really believe in that.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
What's the biggest thing you think you manifested for yourself?
Speaker 2 (37:17):
I manifested a lot of concerts, like I manifested. I'm
playing United Palace. I did United.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
I saw you with all the ladies.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
I did that. That was amazing.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Don't tell me you reached out to somebody was like,
I want to do this.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
No reached out. They really Yeah, they actually reached out
to us. And we're gonna be doing the United Palace again.
I can't say when, but it's coming again twenty twenty five. Mhea.
Yeah and yeah. I mean what else did I manifest?
I manifested a great team. Good for you, I definitely
(37:52):
manifest your team is everything. I definitely like I manifest.
I said that to myself every single day before I
had a team, like, Yo, this is just little missing
piece that I need. Please give it to me. And
here we are. Yes, thank god.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
I'm super excited, you know, to see what twenty twenty
five is going to bring for you. I'm happy we
got to sit down today. Thank you. We're proud of you,
the Dominicans, the Puerto Ricans, the New Yorkers, the Spanglish speakers.
You You've got a whole like you know, sun culture
of humans that you represent, the girlies, the girlies, the mom.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Even the guys too. When I be rapping my verses
in Spanish, be crazy, I do. I do the verses
for the guys, the cooks for the girls. You know.
I try to make everyone feel comfortable in songs.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Nah, you're definitely holding it down. And you know you
got that with the English going into Spanish, going back
into English, you definitely got that. It's natural and it
just feels good organic you out of here. You got this. Yes,
thank you so much, you know for coming through today.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Thank you for having me. So nice to meet you
and the team.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Don't forget about us and Grassiers Come Again.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Definitely coming back. You come back to me again, of course,
for sure.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
Good.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
I love that conversation.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
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