August 16, 2021 • 52 mins
They're back! Eric and Roselyn are back and less than two minutes in to the conversation Roselyn makes Eric blush.
Eric claims while Roselyn was away making Fantasy Island he was "on his own" with the kids...we'll debate this a bit.
Then, they are joined by the fabuloso Odette and Dave Annable. Odette and Dave reveal how and why the pandemic brought them back together as a couple.
These two couples have a lot to learn from one another....and so might you.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is, he said a VIHO with Eric Winter and
Rosalind Fantas last. We are back for season two. It's yeah,
it's been so long, so long, he said, vij is
still around. We are excited to jump back in with everybody.
(00:22):
I know it's been a long break. Um, not just
from the podcast, but that's the first time I've seen
my wife and pretty much almost six months. It feels like, wow, no,
what you want to put it? For one month, I
guess out of the last year, for five weeks you
were you went home for five weeks home inting Puerto Rico.
It was amazing. But yeah, I've been gone. I've been
gone for a while. I went to Vancouver, then I
(00:43):
went to Miami for three months. Then I came home
to Los Angeles for like two or three days, and
then went to Puerto Rico for three more months to
do Fantasy Island. Um, I hope you guys watched it
premiere last week, and you know what it's like. It's
a perfect I guess our personal story is perfect for
sort of the theme of what we're trying to tackle
(01:04):
in season two, which is really diving in more uh
into relationships this season with a lot of our friends
and guests that we're gonna have on because this has
been a very trying and interesting year. I think for
us as a couple, there is the first time in
fifteen years we've ever spent probably more than two or
three weeks apart. And this was like an extreme And
(01:26):
you know, it's interesting because when we got married, I
believe we made a promise to each other that we
were not going to be more than two or three
weeks apart. Like every actor in this business has this
random problem is that we you hear that, Hey, no,
no more than two weeks. That's what's uh. I mean,
we we tried, and we did all this because it
was it was I was twelve hours around listen. COVID
(01:48):
didn't help the situation because and both of our productions
you had to test. You couldn't travel, so you'd be
testing and not trying. I mean, it made travel almost impossible,
possible impossible is not. It's not like I'm they were
in Miami, but she was working Saturdays, so it was
really challenging to just come home on any random weekend
(02:09):
when she could be off on a Friday but working
a Saturday. So I think this was probably. I mean, no,
not even probably. This was definitely our greatest test and
challenge and we survived. Did we survive? We do right now?
Last night we survived last night. That was a good night.
That was a good night. I mean, I guess anything's great.
(02:30):
Like after six months, you know you're hungry. I'm going
to do a secret. My husband, for the first time
in fifteen years last night, asked me, looking into my eyes,
did you masturbate while you were away? Wow? You just
went there in the first episode back. That was so random. Eric,
he has never asked me that question. I was like,
(02:52):
excuse me, He said, did you masturbate? And it was
I don't know why I said that. I just thought
it was funny. It was funny. I like, fifteen years
later he's asking me if I do that? Never yeah,
only with me. It was no listen, it was it
was a crazy, crazy journey. Um, everybody would ask me,
(03:12):
is rosback yet? I'm like, man, I don't even know
if she's ever coming back. That'd be my staple answer.
Did you say that to everybody? Why would you say that?
I don't know. And then finally one of my co stars,
Richard was like, she coming back this week. I was like,
I might still be married. I'll find out this week.
Let's see if she is sure. I didn't know you.
Let's talk about those feelings. Let's let's talk about about
(03:33):
that that long. But I didn't take off. I was working.
Taking off. What I was working is not like I'm
going to buy I'm out. I need a break, I
need some space. It wasn't like I was working. I
was making the bacon. Puppy making the bacon. Don't you
say it right? Yeah, she has this compulsion of she
(03:54):
needs to feel like she's working at all times or
else she's failing in life, which I could be working.
We could be fine, but she's like, no, if I'm
not working, I'm failing, and that is something we should
take up with a therapist. No, because because if you
feel like you always have to be I like to
work being away from the family, then it's not always
good to work. Are you joking that you're talking about
(04:16):
that that way right now? I'm being honest. Sometimes step
back from work and I do I've done it before.
I've done it before. I like to work. It makes
me whole. I love it, it feels I feel productive.
I like having my own money. That's the way I
was raised. So and I think it's wonderful and it's
(04:38):
a great example for Sabella, for my kid. And then
and then every time she finished the job, I'm not
taking another job. I'm just gonna come home and i
gotta just be with the family. And then I get
an email, Eric, they just offered me this thing to
go do in Mexico for like four weeks. Do you
think I should do it? And I'm like, Ros, we
just had this conversation. No, you shouldn't can do it.
You should stay at home. You don't need to work
(04:59):
right now. You just done working for six months. It's
an obsession to always be working. I didn't know. Again,
I didn't know you felt like that. No, I think
it's great. I love a strong working woman. I think
it's fantastic, exactly. I know. But sometimes you have to
step back and smell the donuts instead of making the bacon.
(05:19):
Do you make donuts? If you if you, if you'll
make the donuts, maybe I'll consider it. No, not really,
You're a great fruit. Greats are fun. You're Wow. This
was heavy. I didn't think in a million years that
we were going to tackle this and this is for real, guys.
We didn't plan this at all. We were just affing
and I had no idea. He was just going to
(05:40):
be he said, a therapy session. Our new season is
going to be about that. We want to see if
we can help other people help us, but we can
help with them. Maybe by just airing it out, people
will relate. I don't know be able to talk about it. Wow,
I don't think you're gonna have a good night tonight.
(06:00):
That's unfortunate. I think last night is going to be
the quota that was failed for a whole year after
this whole has been early a whole year. So it's
just back to the driver. Can we talk about positive things?
Lifting things nobody wants to know about. People don't want
to know about your issues. They want to They want
to hear about Sonny Skies, blue skies and blue skies
(06:21):
and beautiful things. We just came out of well, we're
still in the middle of a pandemic effort. We're we
are back. We're back, guys. Yeah, you know, everything's uh.
I think it's as good as it can be. Everything
is great. Listen, you're working, I'm working, You're healthy. I'm healthy.
The kids are healthy. Um, we have the second season
of he said it, yeah, the Hole, which we enjoy immensely.
(06:44):
Dogs are good. What about Maraca, guys, I took my
rack out of Puerto Rico. Maraka is gonna be fifteen
years old, blind, death, all kinds of issues. And she
had a blast. She became the mascot, the mascot of
Fantasy Island. She was so loved. Everybody treated her so well.
It oh my god, what's she's going crazy? But she's okay.
(07:06):
And then Rosin just makes me you know you got
you got home. It's like, it's fine. She's living life.
And then she says raw like staring at the wall.
She's living. She's barking it up at five and take
her party for me, please, because I don't want to
give up. But she's living life. She's living life, Eric,
can you she's eating like a champ. She's incredible, Maraca.
(07:28):
I love you so much. I love Maraca. We're not
going to have a very tricky relationship, even you've always
had a tricky relationship. Listen to me. So what else?
What else? Eric? You? What else? So? What did you
do when I was well? I was gone. I ran
the show, I ran the house, took care of the kids,
and I have help obviously for my mom. And tell
me are nanny who are saviors? You know, two people
(07:48):
helping him also working, So not twenty four hours When
you talk about they don't live there, are you joking?
When you go to bed, they leave. You have a
lot of which is incredible. That is not Now you're
a very um not absent father. You're very very absent.
What is the opposite of absent present? You're very present dad?
You are your mom and dad when when mommy is working. Yeah,
(08:11):
it's you know, I mean it was doing a lot
of that and just a lot of filming. You know.
I got to do an episode of Fantasy Island to
talk about that, which is episode six, I think, which
is going to be a lot of fun to see
how that turned out. Place of Survivalist, we have great
guests and Eric is one of them. I told the showrunners,
um that Eric was going to be in Puerto Rico
for five weeks and if there was anything available, Um,
(08:34):
that made sense, and immediately they offered him to do
a role. And did you like? It? Had a great time,
It was fun, It was It was great working with everybody,
and I think the show is going to be a success.
I think people are going to be looking forward to
this escapism, you know. So it was cool. We got
to work together, which is not our first time obviously,
but it's always fun when we get to work together.
(08:55):
We laugh, we joked around, and we had uh, you know,
sweaty as hell. It's so it was super humid on
some of the days we shot a mosquito. It was
it was it was yeah, that that part of the
whole thing because Puerto Rico is and you know, it's
a crazy correlation we just found out, which is just
how things line up. So the show, I do the
rookie right. We shoot at Warner Brothers. And it's so
(09:17):
random because Fantasy Island is shot in her version of
Fantasy Island is shot entirely on location in Puerto Rico.
They don't have sound stages, there's no studio. The original
Fantasy Island was shot, like nine of it was shot
on stage at Warner Brothers, on the two stages that
I actually shoot my show. I just learned that. So
(09:38):
this was meant to be. So that is really bizarre.
All these years later, I book a show that your
original format shot on and then you go and do
that show. So it was meant for her to do
this project. I hope. So what I hope I'm making
Ricardo Montalban the original rourk. I play his great niece,
Lena Rourke. I I hope that he is in heavens,
(10:00):
miling down at me and appreciative and loving the fact
that I am able to continue his legacy. Because I'm
gonna be honest with you, I'm freaking out. I'm freaking out.
What is a big responsibility because he was such an iconic,
beloved character and now it's female and dig dig dig
diggy and then that, oh my goodness, but it will
(10:20):
be great. Hope. The island Puerto Rico looks fantastic, The
whole you know, looks. It looks beautiful. This is so
good for the tourism, for economic economic economical economic economic reason,
the economic reason, economic reasons. The crew was Puerto Rican
like it was Puerto Rican, a lot of Puerto Rican talent.
I am so I was the right sacrifice for her
(10:43):
to stay in Puerto Rico and not come see her husband.
Um the kids got to see her more than I
did because they got to fly Miami. Were in Miami
a couple of times. But I think you probably enjoyed
the space. I think you enjoyed being away from me.
I actually think I loved it. I don't have to
think anymore. I know it. You Actually I miss you.
I missed I missed I missed you, and every time
(11:04):
I'm aware, I missed you like crazy. But sometimes it's
good to have a little bit of space to watch
whatever I want to watch on TV, to go to
bed when I want to, to to take a sleeping pill
without you telling me, not Baptist pills where it sounds
terrible when you say that, Why to take a pill?
You don't stop talking like that. You don't take a
little slip go to sleep. Well, sometimes I do. I
(11:24):
have to so I can function the next day and
then what else I can do. Yeah, it's sometimes it's lovely.
You know that you love when I'm away because you
have the bed off for you. Yeah, I mean definitely,
there's there's there's good and you know, having space is
a good thing. This was very too much space. It
was having space I was I was actually, you know what.
Puerto Rico was a little easier because they went for
five weeks and I have my family and I have
(11:46):
my closest friends over there. Miami was intense. Miami was intense,
and I didn't have my racka. Miami didn't have the
kids at least my rack. I was able to give
me a sense of normalcy, give me a sense of like,
my family is here. M Miami. It was bananas, bananas,
But I'm proud of what I did. I did called
Adam for Peacock. That comes out and the end of
(12:06):
the year, hopefully next year, so it's not overlap, so
it doesn't overlap with Fantasy Island, but that one is
in Spanish and it's incredible, incredible. So anyways, on top
of all that, we have two very fun guests coming
on for our first episode that we actually know personally
through working together. That's how we met. There's other friends
(12:29):
of ours now, but Rossland just worked with them on
Fantasy Island, Dave and or Dead Annabel, and they were
so lovely and I think when we were going to
ask him, but I think they had a really nice time.
Um although she has well I need to ask Um.
The two tell us that story about the restaurant. It
was really crazy. But anyways, they were so good and
(12:50):
their storyline for the show is funny, funny, and I'm
sure everybody is gonna love them. I'm we're so happy
that they're part of that our first coming back, is
that correct? So then we're out, what's up, guys? Like
(13:22):
to see you guys everything, to see your buddy. I know,
I'm sorry I missed you on in Puerto Rico. Uh no,
you have someone? Are you still down there? You guys
know we're back. We're back. I got back a while
ago to start my show, and then she just got
back two days ago. Was that the first time you
guys had been to Puerto Rico? No? Actually, we went
(13:43):
how many years ago? Probably seven years ago? Probably more probably, Yeah,
I was like maybe ten years ago. We went to
b a case. Yeah, when they had the w there.
We went to the our friend Dia does the Hollywood
Domino Dia. Yeah, oh my god, I'm no, I'm in
high school. I love Dia on her sister. She's amazing,
(14:07):
she's amazing family. Yeah, So we went to the opening
of the hotel there because that was the only it
was one of the coolest things we've ever done. And
we wanted to do it when we were in Puerto Rico,
but we just didn't have time or the kid. Well
you got to do it at night, right, and we
(14:29):
got a kid. That's where I proposed to her, was
on that on the Bio bay. Yeah it was. It
was a nightmare, but it was She said yes, but
it was a nightmare. It was he The whole place
was empty. It was just the two of us and
a guy. Nobody else. And I think we've talked about
this the past, but long story short, I had the ring.
We went out there. She's in front of the kayak.
(14:50):
I'm in the back. The guy has been instructed to
like go away from us so I can say the
whole speech and like pop the question. And as soon
as he starts passing away, I started doing my thing.
And she's like senior and she's yelling, freaking out, and
he's leaving us. When the heck is he going? It's
pitch black and we don't we I don't know, I
don't know how to get back, and he was going.
I was like, just shut up, I gotta say all
(15:12):
these things. It was a nightmare. But it never goes
the way you play. Never, I mean I literally I
had a whole speech and I go down on my knee,
Like I start saying, like, you know, before I went
down on my knee, I like I literally blacked out.
(15:32):
I just like clung to her. I was like, I love,
I love, I love, I love to what's going on here?
And then I started to go down. I started to
like go down on my knee. She's like, oh, you're
not proposing, are you? Like is this like a yes
sing or more like a no. I just like just
curious because I probably go down there for like an
(15:52):
hour and a half before he is didn't expect it.
When we are you guys, we were at the Senior
seed Ranch. Beautiful. It was so beautiful. It was amazing.
But I did not see it coming, Like he had
this beautiful ring. I was like, that's not real, Like
it literally went terrible. That funny, but it was funny,
(16:16):
like you know, in a honestly like the moment it
did click like it was it was just great. We
we had like it was kind of like a most
like a football field size field up there where we
were alone. There was nobody up there, so that worked
out honestly. Um, and then you know, she sort of
tackled me, like, you know, after a click, I was like, oh,
this is real. Yeah, yeah, you guys been married. It'll
(16:40):
be eleven years in October. Great right there, because I
have beautiful, perfect black hair, and now like look at that,
because you know, I'm just kidding. How how do you
guys meet We met through We didn't meet working together.
We met through us. This said, this is my favorite
(17:01):
part of the story. Is you know she's a she
was a fan. She's lock it off, guys. You it's
weird though she's not anymore. She was I used to be.
Now I know much exactly. Oh my god, is this
(17:26):
when you were on Brothers and Sisters around that time? Yeah, yeah,
I was. I was actually with a boyfriend at the
time and we were watching TV and probo for her
Brothers and Sisters came on and Dave's Space came on,
and I just like I had bombed at the mouth.
I was like, who is that guy with my boyfriend
next to me? I was like, that guy is so cute.
(17:47):
He was like all right, relaxed, and everybody hated my
boyfriend at the time. So when I went to work,
I was on a show for ABC as well, and
it was an international upfronts and one of my producers
driving me to Dave. She was like, I want you
to meet some and I was like I just I thought,
just cute. I don't want to meet him. And it
was like the most awkward exchange. Well, I like it
was Ken Olden and I at Turney hers round and
(18:10):
you know, this tall, beautiful girl was standing right there
and I had power and they're like, oh you're beautiful,
and uh I can hear you? Yeah? Sorry? And uh
So basically that was it. And then a full year later, um,
there was some after party or something like some g
Q event that where was the Teddy's at the Roosevelt
(18:32):
when we three kids? Yeah, and uh I went in
and I you know ce Vaka Tonics, and I saw
I saw Odie dancing and I didn't remember meeting her,
but I was like, oh, that girls beautiful and she
happened to be dancing with a mutual friend. So ye
(18:52):
made my way over there and I'm like hi, I'm
Dave and she's like, oh, we've met, and I was
like that's not a great start. Um, and then she
was like oh that's you know, she was like oh
that's my boyfriend right back there. And I was like
out of there. Um and that was it. And then
literally one meter later, I was just at of a
(19:13):
breakup and you were just at a break up. But
I didn't know at the time. But my sister was
in town and she was like, oh no she select
you know. So I was like, so I went to
some MTV party, you know, and she's like she saw
Ryan Phelippe. She's like, I'm done. That's all. I mean,
this is amazing. And um, I saw Odette walking on
the red carpet. I was like, oh, that's that's that girl.
(19:34):
That like, that's the girl. And my sister was ready
to leave and I was like, no, I don't want
to say hi. But I you know, I don't want
to say hi right away. Real creative, like let me
go lett, let's get drink mingle. Yeah, I got play
cool so or cool for me? Right. So basically an
hour goes by my sister Vigo we're out, and I
was like, give me a lap, Like, let's do a lap.
(19:56):
So we do a lap and I see Odie in
a cloth circle of like eight girls, right, So like
as a dude, I was like, oh, this is, this
is it's a no fly zone. So I did like
the next best thing. I just sort of creaked and
like I went to the circle and was just like
staring in just seeing. And then from my point of view,
(20:16):
my girlfriend was in town and she said the same thing.
She's like, I just want to see some celebrities. She
was in town from North Carolina. I was like, oh, okay,
well there's this party, let's go there. And then it
was sort of like the end of the night. And
then my girlfriends like, well, there's nobody here, but there
is that cute guy from Brothers and Sisters and he's
like staring right and I looked at was like, that's
(20:38):
that guy. And she's like, I go say hi, And
I said, no, I don't want to say hi. It's
been like a weird thing. We've met a couple of times,
like for two years in a row, and she's like,
I want you to meet him. So she pushes me
and Dave is like right there. I'm like, oh, hey,
that's so weird. And then you know, it was like
(20:59):
kind of a well I gave you a lot of
we get a lot of well, I mean, it was
it was like one of those things that like she
could tell like I'm nervous, and I started like floundering,
and she was like she had a go and you know,
she was like, he's not gonna ask me for my number.
I'm out of here. So then I was like, hey,
really good to see you, but I'm gonna go back
to my girlfriends. And I started walking away. It was
like three to what would it be weird? No, you
(21:27):
want my number? And he's like, that would be great.
I was, and you were fresh out of relationships at
that point, like you guys. It just so I just
jumped back. It's always timing. I mean it took three years,
I have to say, because you and I worked together,
like on South Beaches when I first met you, like
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I did a guest star on that show, and you
were with a dude. Was it that same guy? And
nobody liked that guy? That guy that was the same boyfriend.
It's funny because I specific because he was on set
like the entire time with you. He was in Miami,
and I remember I think it was like it was
just like you could tell that not a lot of
(22:09):
people like the guy, but there were the weird vibe.
That's funny. That's interesting your validated. I love Dave and
I work with Dave too, and I know we go
way back. I mean, it's just so wild and we
have so many neutual friends. It's so cool that we
got to work together to now Roslin I know. So,
(22:29):
how do you guys navigate So it's been it's been
eleven years, you're both actors. I'm sure you have to
do the whole long distance because somebody's relocating somewhere else.
Um have how do you guys navigate the whole uh dynamic?
Now with a kid? Do you guys make a conscious
decision not to work? We just went through different you know.
That's always saying like I've been going for like eight
(22:50):
months and it's been hell. It's you know, it's it
is one of the trickiest parts of our job. I
would say, right, it's it's because you know, they're there's
so many good things, there's so many bad things. Um,
you know, but getting that call and you're like, oh,
you might have to go to Puto Rico for but
you know wherever that is, and you're like, we gotta
(23:12):
like there's a lot of logistics we gotta figure out. Um,
I think overall in our career so far, we've been
fairly lucky where one of us working where it us
not you know where. It's been a nice balance. We've
been able to keep our home base in in l A.
But for for many years before we had Charlie, we
(23:32):
kind of kept it with and we understand that this
was a luxury New York or l A. And it
worked out for us that one of us would either
take the job, you know, the checks in New York,
so then the other one would come with uh, you know.
We there was one time where we decided to do
Dave did a series regular show in Atlanta and I
did a mini series in New Orleans and that kind
(23:53):
of little tricky because gosh, when you're not together for
more than I would say, two weeks at a time,
there is I just said this before, like there's this
two week thing that ever he talks about this business,
but it's hard to keep it. Yes, start to feel
that that disconnect, and I think, you know, human nature,
you need to be social, and you need to have
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you know, your your person, your partner, you're you know,
and as great as now FaceTime is and and the
whole thing I think that's kind of changed a little
the game a little bit, but I still think that,
you know, it's tough when you go more than two weeks.
I would say, well even though, because especially when you're
you know, unfortunate enough, you know, when your series regulars,
like You're, you're working, so it's not just easy to
(24:37):
pack up and leave and go see you know each
other every two weeks. Uh, and then you know you're
you're it's it's it's distance, right, So it's like you're
talking about, hey, going out with your friends from the crew,
where you'd be like, oh, that's that you have a
whole separate life and have a whole separate life, and
it's like, you know, you can't expect your partners just
you know, sit in their room the whole time. But
(24:58):
at the same time, that does bring a lot of like, oh, well,
I kind of wish I was there or you know
who that you know that's your name, because that's the thing,
because you don't know for the most part, you don't
know the person that that your partner is working with,
you know. And as much as thea oh she's so awesome,
all he's so great, you know, he's married they're so
fantastic up you don't know them, you know, so there's
(25:19):
always that what if there's always that thing about I
wonder if they get along a little too well, you know,
and it's playing. Every time I've had to travel, I
can't sit in my room, like I will go by
myself and just sit at a restaurant. If it's not
with people from the like my cast crew, I have
to be going, going, going. I just get but you're
you're absurd anyway, like should be like where are you?
(25:41):
I'm like, I don't know. I'm at a restaurant out
on about every time he travels, like on location, he
is out on above for absolutely no reason. He said,
you can't order freaking room service. I don't want, I
don't have to leave, but then if she goes out,
I like this. I'm just now can't like setting shop exactly.
(26:02):
I'm like, I'm reading, I'm watching, I'm whatever, I'm writing,
I'm doing something. He's like, well, what are you? Went
to the gym and then I'm gonna go grab something
to eat and then I might just walk around. I'm
going for real. Dave doesn't like to walk a lot,
Like what mean you're walking. It's a new city. What
do you mean. I mean, I'm in my room or
room service. It's sleeping exactly. It's so we worked in Toronto.
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We did a Christmas movie in Toronto, was like two
years ago, and I was just like, you know, I
think we're gonna walk to working. You know. Everything that
was was just like taking the day, you know, listening
to my music or podcast or something, and I like
to feel the energy. It's like, you know, sort of walking. Yeah.
He plus it was a lot of time together, Merry
(26:48):
Christmas movie. Like he's a New Yorker. He will choose
the furthest parking spot ever. Always that will be that
go back my my biggest nightmare there you can't like
shoot the spot closest is not the one who'll ever
go to Odo stood there for twenty five minutes and
(27:12):
wait for some old lady to back listen. This is Eric.
He doesn't want to spend the whatever five dollars ten
fifteen that valet will cost Eric. Eric Winter, So there's
valet very comfortable, um high heels. You can easily just
go to vallets so I can walk a couple of
steps and no, he likes to park like that all
(27:32):
the way. I will I will put the freaking dollars.
I will park vale. I find it stupid sometimes, like
a frust where I'm like, there's a meter right there,
it's right there. It's like, no, it's get just dropping
over the valley, like fuck, just by the meter right there. Well,
we're in Austin, Texas. Now we live in Texas and
there's there's no valets whin I kind of love like
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you're able to go to the store and just walk
up and park. Oh yeah, you for Barta. But every
usually every restaurant has a playground for kids. Our minds
are blown. What is happening here? So why did you
decide Austin, Texas? When did that happen? And why? I
mean so so many factors. But Dave's family actually moved
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here from New York years probably over ten years ago, yeah, six,
six or seven years ago. So my younger sister is here,
uh with my brother in law's great they have three daughters.
My folks just moved here, uh at about an hour
north of Boston, right. So um, you know, I think
personal reasons, like for for us in our marriage and
(28:42):
our family, you know, and it was easy for us
to get a little loss there and in Los Angeles
and you know, priorities and you know, we just sort
of wanted to focus on our family. And then you know,
COVID hit and that was we were we were quarantining,
you know, started in March, so we were there until
May and then you know it's like you didn't leave
your house at all, and then you know, we faced
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on my sister and the kids were just running around
and the woods and playing and it was kind of like,
you know, we're in the Countrete jungle specifically where we
were in Los Angeles, and we came down to visit
and we're just like, man, this is it's a little ride. Yeah,
went Rento the lake House and we had late life
and like how this feels. This feels great. And we
originally were looking for a place to rent, you know,
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like just for a year, aget at l A and
it was actually it was kind of slim pickings because
I don't think we were alone and a lot of
people were sort of leaving the big cities and coming down,
you know, coming down in Texas. So we found this.
We looked at a bunch of houses and we found
this house that was and it checked off. All the
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boy were in the coort A gated neighborhood. Basically we're
on two golf courses, uh um. And you know it
was a million and a half dollars cheaper. Yeah. So
it was one of those things where it's like, you know,
this is you know, and it was it was I
don't want It was tough to convince a debt. But
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Odette's families all in Riverside like Los Angeles. But it
was one of those things. I was like this, We're
not signing a life contract, you know, just this this
is I was like, let's call this like our wait
and see house. Right, Let's move there and wait and
see and like live. You know, life is experience and
different experiences and let's go down there and learn how
(30:28):
to fish and you know, just have this whole different
Texas life and and see you know where we in
many ways, we started a brand new chapter in our
marriage and in the parenthood, and you know, we really
needed to start fresh for so many reasons. But you know,
I think I struggled because I'm a California girl through
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and through my family is there. I'm Cuban and so
I have a very very close knit family that I
speak to all time, and you know, we were at
arms length for then. We were about an hour away,
and my parents are so great with Charlie and they
had a great relationship. So I had that like, I
don't know how I feel about this, and specifically I
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didn't really love to work, you know, and I didn't
I didn't see how in my mind moving to Texas
was going to open any doors for us in in
the in the career way. But as we had it,
and as the universe, god, whatever you like to say, works.
A month into us moving out, I got a call.
I think Dave actually reached out and and saw that
(31:31):
there was a reboot of Walker Texas Ranger in in
uh in Austin. And then a month later they called
me and they're like, hey, do you want to be
on the show. We heard that you moved here. So
it was kind of lot, you know, we were being
guy and it was like, oh, here's this job. Don't worry,
You're on the right path. Yeah, and you know, it's
(31:52):
just it's it's it's just I think everybody needs their
own shakeub whatever that is right, and and this was
our shakeup. You know, we um known, you know, we've
got a babysitter and like which it's all us and
and I think that's um hard but rewarding. And it
was just something very different for us that we just
work from having a full time danny, you know the
(32:12):
whole deal. Do you think do you think is working out?
I mean this is a personal question, very personal, so
you guys don't have to answer, But do you think
it's been better for the marriage? It has brought you
guys more together one it's a I would say it's
a brand new marriage, you know. And you know, everything
(32:37):
for me specifically has been put into perspective. And I
think that you can get really lost in Los Angeles,
even just as a parent, and there's so many invites,
there's so many your brain is filled with all these
things that you feel like you have to do until
you're removed and your focus specifically, and I think the
pandemic did this for a lot of people. And I
(32:58):
knew there were made marriages, broke marriages. It you know,
it brought you stronger. For us, and specifically, it really
did bring us together. And you know, I think that
being in a quiet place like this and being immersed
in nature. I don't know if you can see, but
we're at the top of trees here. Every that you
see in our houses just tree tops and it's nature.
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And it wasn't something that you know, I was raised
on a farm growing up, and it was something that
I kind of sort of forgot about. And now we
see deer and I mean I had to, you know,
swerve off the side of road because there was a
turtle crossing. It's just a different it's it's a different life.
But I also still get my city. Like Austin is
(33:42):
a really read city. It's so alive. We just when
we had friends in town and it's like music and
the city is alive, and you know, it's still We're
still like part of you know, you can get your fixed.
You get your fix when you need it, but you
can go back and have your space and have your
privacy and and have the family. You know, we've talked
(34:03):
about it. It's funny a lot too because I'm from
l A. I'm born and raised here. It's all I
know as well. Um, but we've been getting the same
kind of itch about do we need to just get
out of here? Do we need to change? It's I
think also with this stint of her being gone for
so long was also just it was it was a
shock for our marriage. Again, We've never had this kind
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of distance before over this long of a time, and
it was just a lot of we need to shake
it up, like we might need change, we might need
something different. Um and like that a bit of being
thrown into something which is kind of like a survival
in a way because you're having to do it together
and figure it out and navigate this new land that
you're going to. It brings you together, It shakes it up,
(34:46):
you know, you have to start over. Yeah, and that's
what it really you know, did I mean, you know,
it's no secret. You know we were we were kind
of about breaking our marriage, right, we were separating for
a little bit, and and the pandemic, you know, we
sort of made a decision like, hey, we're a family,
no matter what happens, We're you know, we're gonna ride
this ride. This scary that was very scary at the beginning,
(35:09):
and and you know, as it is now, but you know,
we don't different scary and so that was kind of
a no brainer for us. And you know, as that
time together and realizing what was important. That really brought
us closer together. And you guys Soper right for how long?
About six months? Yeah, about about six months. This is
(35:31):
with Charlie already. How how old is Charlie for four? Yeah,
Charlie's uh yeah, she was fo Yeah she was four. Yeah.
So we sold our house and so that's sort of
like how it all kind of the house was already done.
You were living in your own spaces, so that was
sort of one thing gone, Like it was a huge
(35:53):
you know, the house is not there, so now you've
got to rebuild the We actually fortunately sold our house,
uh like two days before the stocks crashed at the
beginning of of Coronas. So yeah, then basically it was
that decision like she was reading a spot, I was
reading a spot. I was actually living on my friend's
boat for a while with Marino, which was crazy. We
(36:16):
got a story, but Jesus Christ, so then we uh,
you know, that's when I moved in. And then that's
when you know, a lot of work, right, a lot
of real honest conversations and therapy and focus about what
is important in this life. So they've given a second
(36:37):
given the relationship a second chance, another opportunity. Was it
because of Charlie? You guys are parents, so you want
to be responsible? Or was it because you know what
besides Charlie? We realized after six months, you're I want
to work it out because you're my soul amplifier. You
know that what what was it? Of course Charlie is
(36:57):
going to be a factor, you know, because she's our daughter.
And but truly and honestly, when we were kind of
forced and we made the choice, of course, you're not forced.
We made the choice that quarantined together for our daughter
co parenting together because you know, we didn't know what
was going on, but we still we also the preface
(37:17):
that or context like we were still like kind to
you know what I'm saying, Like it was right right,
you know, we're both parents and and you know we
that choice for a separation wasn't you know, something light.
It wasn't you know, passing the way in something? And
and so you know we were we're told and guided
(37:40):
and the right people in our right instincts that like
this is we're gonna be knowing each other for the
rest of our lives. We need to be friends. Like
and somebody said it great, like you know, and when
Charlie gets married, do you guys want to be on
you know, either side of the aisle with this sort
of animosity or do you want to be holding hands
whether you have to get either, or your own partners
(38:01):
and crying and celebrating together. And it was it's just
that clear, like we we sort of know what we wanted,
and so when we did decide to move in, it
was you know, there was not like we didn't have
to get through too much to be kind to each other,
you know what I'm saying, Like there was never any
of that. But you know, through that process, you know,
we really fell in love again. And that was still
(38:24):
a lot of therapies and a lot of really tough
conversations and and you know, just being a family just
be her and Charlie have nothing to do and you know,
your time. Yeah, like there's no distractions. There's no going
to lunch with friends or going to this or like
it was like, yo, you're here, We're playing candy Land
(38:44):
every night. You know, we're like literally a family. And
that was something that um, you know, well weirdly always
be grateful for Yeah, you know, for sure with the pandemic,
for sure, So did you move on to the boat? Oh?
Dad back together the vote? So yeah, you guys, you guys,
(39:14):
you you quarantined together, which clearly I mean the way
you broke it down. I think it's going to be
I think inspiring for a lot of people to hear
in general, even for us, like to know that you
can work through such a tough time and still rediscover
each other and have that respect the entire time and
build upon that foundation that you guys had for all
(39:34):
those years. I mean, that's that's incredible. What thank thank
you for the lesson that was so valuable. That makes
the first move. By the way, when you guys are
back living together and you're deciding, okay, do we cross
that line? Who made the first move? I think that
was me. Let's go back to the earlier conversations. You know,
(39:59):
but you know what, what what what what led us to
sort of get better or let me just say this,
it wouldn't have happened if we each, in our individual
journeys in that six months, didn't do a lot of
work on ourselves. And that was something that you know,
I went to a five day silent retreat, like you
(40:21):
don't speak the entire time, right, Yeah, I don't know
if I could do. I have a lot of respect
you for doing that. You can't like um. And it was,
you know, because I had no idea what I was doing.
I you know, it was sort of like it was
really into meditation and you know I've heard about this
and I was like, oh that's something like you know,
(40:43):
I was like alone. I was like, let me try
it right, and you know what, she's got the kid.
I'm like, I'm gonna do something different, and uh, you know,
I was always like, oh, this is gonna be like
I'm gonna be like, oh, hi, good morning. You know
I said that, But the woman that was running it
said something like the first night because you go when
you you have dinner, you beat you know. There was
sixteen of us, and you know, basically I was in
(41:05):
a room my five roommates, you know, like and I'm like,
literally in a room with five roommates. You don't speak
the whole time. But the first night they were like,
you know, your instincts maybe to like say hot I
or to make a joke. But she's like, I want
you to remember that that's what that's your instinct and
(41:26):
what the other person is you don't know what the
other person is going, and you might take them out
of their moment right there, their beautiful moment with themselves
and you're just trying to be like, hey, don't you
know could could really shake them up? And I was like, oh, yeah,
it's not about me. I was like, all right, mean
that that really helped me like not not speak. So,
(41:46):
I mean it was wild, and it was we were
meditating five times a day and I only basically meditated,
you know, ten minutes a day. It was kind of
my thing. But you know, we had like our meditations
and I was like, but I tell you what, I've
never been clear in my life my mind, and like
I was just crystal clear, and I was like, holy,
(42:08):
this is a whole different way of like seeing the world.
Like I zoomed out perspective of every day and I
felt great. And you know, I think there's a difference
of that when he came back, Uh yeah, he needs
to go back. No, No, absolutely, you know it's true.
(42:32):
I mean, if you don't have your own individual journey
and whatever that may be, I don't think that we
would have been able to come together in the way
that we did. I I had my own you know,
reflections and time with therapists and really just working on
myself and finding that self love. In order to truly
(42:54):
love anybody else, I think you've got to really find
find who you are and you know what you're about
and how you're going to recalibrate through going through something
you know, so traumatic. And so when we quarantined together,
I think we had a different foundation for ourselves that
we didn't have before, where it was more of like
(43:15):
a codependent thing, and I think we were coming in
as two whole people and that was the basis of
our new relationship. We had a real awareness too of
you know, not getting back together because it's comfortable, because
it's Charlie, because Charlie, because it's easy, and like we're
both very open about we need to choose one another
(43:37):
again and once that choice is made, then everything else
will sort of fall into place. And and then and
that did happen was like a specific moment where like
I choose you, I choose you. But student tears on
the moves she was a fan. After all came back.
(44:07):
They always go back for a second, and then we
will We're gonna play a little something called talking talkien coca.
You know what talking that's not Spanish is Listen to me.
Is it true that you're have Puerto Rican? That's not true? Right,
want we want to solve this mystery. I'm a quarter well,
(44:29):
I didn't know you're doing Puerto Rican blowed. I didn't
know that I was going against Wikipedia. I'm going Pukipedia's boot.
That's not even true, but it's true. Like he's my
Puerto Rican. My grandma came over when she was sixteen
she was born, and her parents no English. I'll believe.
I believe the whole star of the family, no no English.
Where was he? Uh say? So San Sebastian beautiful. That's okay.
(45:00):
So we gotta come back and we're gonna play something
called talking talking. It's just almost fast questions and answer
rapid fire. Thank you, okay, so we'll be back. So
we are back, and he said, with our good friends,
(45:22):
Thank you, Dave. This has been so interesting and positive
and needed, especially because listen, you guys are actors, were actors,
so you we understand the lifestyle. You know, anybody can
relate to it, you know what I mean, like everybody
the problems and everybody has things they have to work
through and marriage is not easy. Marriage becomes a job
at some point that if you don't put in the
(45:43):
time and the energy, you're gonna lose your job, your marriage.
It's not just the honeymoon phase. Face. So we're gonna
play something called talking go and this is just gonna
be just for fun. You know. We we talked a
lot of deep, deep substance. Now we're just going to
keep it light on and fun. So very fast. Do
(46:03):
you believe opposites attract? Yes, this is attract? Yes? Okay.
Do you believe in soulmates? Yes? That's funny. It was
the best way to end an argument. Oh I like
that sex. We should try that more. I always have
(46:25):
to have your last week. I mean, I think apologizing.
Oh it's the sex is the apology. Like Eric, we'll
talk about the same topic over and over for twenty
four hours on Jazy here's apology or thank you, thank you, Eric,
(46:45):
thank you, thank you, thank you, And I'm good. If
you're having a crappy day, what would you want your
wife or husband, boyfriend, a wife her husband to do
to help if you're having a crappy day, sex I
couldn't agree more it's perfect. Everything is song with sex. Okay,
(47:09):
but what about you leave me alone? Perfect? Talk to
me literally alone exactly? Do not talk to me? What
kind of affection do you want to get in public?
What is too much and what is too little? You
guys have lovely dobby like like those couples are like
all day long. I try to listen all w a
(47:31):
handhold right, just like you know we're walking. Just a
handhold or just a little attention. Yeah, I can do
a handhold, but I am not. I feel very uncomfortable
when I see couples taking I think it's stupid. I
think it's stupid people listening that. Sorry, do you guys
you do that? You're stupid. If you do that, you're stupid.
(47:56):
Ideal date night sex, Oh my god. Answer answers we
were exactly the same. Leave me up dinner and sex,
dinner and leave me dinner, leave me alone, tell me
(48:18):
to a nice dinner. They don't talk to me older.
I'm like, let's have sex before dinner's retired. Later, Oh
go to sleep. Oh my god, that would be me.
Ideal Valentine's Day Probably same answer answer said, I look
at the next one on a scale of one to
a hundred. How important is sex? We know the answer
(48:39):
to that answer. Okay, listen, got to connect. I agree.
Best relationship advice you can give to the work, do
the work, stay present, work good work. You can you shoot?
Can you shoot? Do you stay friends with your ex?
(49:03):
I think some people can can do that and make
it work. I don't think it usually works. Yeah, I
think there's an awareness, like upside down side, what's the
upside of being your friends with your ex? Like? Where
is it? Dad? Or I remember that when we were
both married before and I was my husband. His husband
was English and his brother married a Puerto Rican funny enough,
(49:25):
so it was two englishmen with tu Puerto Rican. So
of course we became really really close, really good friends.
And then we got divorced, and I stayed very close
to Ronnie and Clarisa because they were like family to me.
And that lasted how long? At some point you were like,
I'm not big, I'm not saying you'd be enemies with
your ex, but I don't see the point. And like
maintaining a relationship, where where are you headed? It's a
(49:48):
nice thought, I think, but yeah, it is. It is
weird alright, Can couples actually be best friends. Absolutely, yes, yes,
I think so. I that Dave and I are best friends.
We like to do the same stuff. They're just sex,
sex and more sex. Oh my god, oh my god.
(50:13):
Best last question, best pickup line? I've got nothing? What's yours?
How much does the polar bear way enough to break
the ice? Enough to break there? I like to break
the ice with somebody. Why is your best pipe? My
best pickup blame? My name is Eric. Kind of bout
your drink? That was? That was a big up line
(50:33):
to me. I'm not good with pickup lines. I agree,
you don't need it too handsome, terrible smile, I don't
know smile exactly. Smile. Just be cute. That's a pipe,
Just be yourself. It would be funny. Guy. That was awesome.
Thank you. Go to see you guys. You can catch
(50:55):
Dave and Annabelle this week on Fantasy Island on Fox.
They have money, prodible storyline and body swabs. Um. It was.
It was a lot of fun. You know what? Can
I tell you something? Guys? And this is a true story.
All the writers and all the the crew members and
even Kiara and John, the two um series regulars their
favorite episode and the favorite storyline is your storyline. They
(51:18):
love you, guys, love you guys, So people are going
to do you love everybody. It was such a great experience.
I mean, and we had a really great time shooting it.
I mean, we want we did a little a d
R and I was cracking. This is I'm so I'm
(51:42):
so glad. I'm so glad you guys loved it. Hopefully
we can do it over and over again, all our characters.
I have to come back for season two. Awesome, all right,
thank you? Bye. So how how do you feel about
that increde well story that they got separated? Then? I
(52:02):
mean so cool? First of all, to be able to
connect with friends of ours and I didn't know all
of that, Like I mean, you know, we're friends with
them and we don't talk to him on a regular basis.
But to learn all of that and have them share
their journey, I'm so glad they worked it out. Yeah,
me too, and very very helpful for I think for
many for many reasons, for hopefully our listeners and for
us some perspective. So in perspective, are we moving so
(52:23):
we can stay solid? Might have to move by them Austin, Texas.
Why don't we go to Miami? Well, well that's another episode.
All right, thanks for listening and glad to be back.
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it's been so long, so long, he said, vij is
still around. We are excited to jump back in with everybody.
(00:22):
I know it's been a long break. Um, not just
from the podcast, but that's the first time I've seen
my wife and pretty much almost six months. It feels like, wow, no,
what you want to put it? For one month, I
guess out of the last year, for five weeks you
were you went home for five weeks home inting Puerto Rico.
It was amazing. But yeah, I've been gone. I've been
gone for a while. I went to Vancouver, then I
(00:43):
went to Miami for three months. Then I came home
to Los Angeles for like two or three days, and
then went to Puerto Rico for three more months to
do Fantasy Island. Um, I hope you guys watched it
premiere last week, and you know what it's like. It's
a perfect I guess our personal story is perfect for
sort of the theme of what we're trying to tackle
(01:04):
in season two, which is really diving in more uh
into relationships this season with a lot of our friends
and guests that we're gonna have on because this has
been a very trying and interesting year. I think for
us as a couple, there is the first time in
fifteen years we've ever spent probably more than two or
three weeks apart. And this was like an extreme And
(01:26):
you know, it's interesting because when we got married, I
believe we made a promise to each other that we
were not going to be more than two or three
weeks apart. Like every actor in this business has this
random problem is that we you hear that, Hey, no,
no more than two weeks. That's what's uh. I mean,
we we tried, and we did all this because it
was it was I was twelve hours around listen. COVID
(01:48):
didn't help the situation because and both of our productions
you had to test. You couldn't travel, so you'd be
testing and not trying. I mean, it made travel almost impossible,
possible impossible is not. It's not like I'm they were
in Miami, but she was working Saturdays, so it was
really challenging to just come home on any random weekend
(02:09):
when she could be off on a Friday but working
a Saturday. So I think this was probably. I mean, no,
not even probably. This was definitely our greatest test and
challenge and we survived. Did we survive? We do right now?
Last night we survived last night. That was a good night.
That was a good night. I mean, I guess anything's great.
(02:30):
Like after six months, you know you're hungry. I'm going
to do a secret. My husband, for the first time
in fifteen years last night, asked me, looking into my eyes,
did you masturbate while you were away? Wow? You just
went there in the first episode back. That was so random. Eric,
he has never asked me that question. I was like,
(02:52):
excuse me, He said, did you masturbate? And it was
I don't know why I said that. I just thought
it was funny. It was funny. I like, fifteen years
later he's asking me if I do that? Never yeah,
only with me. It was no listen, it was it
was a crazy, crazy journey. Um, everybody would ask me,
(03:12):
is rosback yet? I'm like, man, I don't even know
if she's ever coming back. That'd be my staple answer.
Did you say that to everybody? Why would you say that?
I don't know. And then finally one of my co stars,
Richard was like, she coming back this week. I was like,
I might still be married. I'll find out this week.
Let's see if she is sure. I didn't know you.
Let's talk about those feelings. Let's let's talk about about
(03:33):
that that long. But I didn't take off. I was working.
Taking off. What I was working is not like I'm
going to buy I'm out. I need a break, I
need some space. It wasn't like I was working. I
was making the bacon. Puppy making the bacon. Don't you
say it right? Yeah, she has this compulsion of she
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needs to feel like she's working at all times or
else she's failing in life, which I could be working.
We could be fine, but she's like, no, if I'm
not working, I'm failing, and that is something we should
take up with a therapist. No, because because if you
feel like you always have to be I like to
work being away from the family, then it's not always
good to work. Are you joking that you're talking about
(04:16):
that that way right now? I'm being honest. Sometimes step
back from work and I do I've done it before.
I've done it before. I like to work. It makes
me whole. I love it, it feels I feel productive.
I like having my own money. That's the way I
was raised. So and I think it's wonderful and it's
(04:38):
a great example for Sabella, for my kid. And then
and then every time she finished the job, I'm not
taking another job. I'm just gonna come home and i
gotta just be with the family. And then I get
an email, Eric, they just offered me this thing to
go do in Mexico for like four weeks. Do you
think I should do it? And I'm like, Ros, we
just had this conversation. No, you shouldn't can do it.
You should stay at home. You don't need to work
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right now. You just done working for six months. It's
an obsession to always be working. I didn't know. Again,
I didn't know you felt like that. No, I think
it's great. I love a strong working woman. I think
it's fantastic, exactly. I know. But sometimes you have to
step back and smell the donuts instead of making the bacon.
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Do you make donuts? If you if you, if you'll
make the donuts, maybe I'll consider it. No, not really,
You're a great fruit. Greats are fun. You're Wow. This
was heavy. I didn't think in a million years that
we were going to tackle this and this is for real, guys.
We didn't plan this at all. We were just affing
and I had no idea. He was just going to
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be he said, a therapy session. Our new season is
going to be about that. We want to see if
we can help other people help us, but we can
help with them. Maybe by just airing it out, people
will relate. I don't know be able to talk about it. Wow,
I don't think you're gonna have a good night tonight.
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That's unfortunate. I think last night is going to be
the quota that was failed for a whole year after
this whole has been early a whole year. So it's
just back to the driver. Can we talk about positive things?
Lifting things nobody wants to know about. People don't want
to know about your issues. They want to They want
to hear about Sonny Skies, blue skies and blue skies
(06:21):
and beautiful things. We just came out of well, we're
still in the middle of a pandemic effort. We're we
are back. We're back, guys. Yeah, you know, everything's uh.
I think it's as good as it can be. Everything
is great. Listen, you're working, I'm working, You're healthy. I'm healthy.
The kids are healthy. Um, we have the second season
of he said it, yeah, the Hole, which we enjoy immensely.
(06:44):
Dogs are good. What about Maraca, guys, I took my
rack out of Puerto Rico. Maraka is gonna be fifteen
years old, blind, death, all kinds of issues. And she
had a blast. She became the mascot, the mascot of
Fantasy Island. She was so loved. Everybody treated her so well.
It oh my god, what's she's going crazy? But she's okay.
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And then Rosin just makes me you know you got
you got home. It's like, it's fine. She's living life.
And then she says raw like staring at the wall.
She's living. She's barking it up at five and take
her party for me, please, because I don't want to
give up. But she's living life. She's living life, Eric,
can you she's eating like a champ. She's incredible, Maraca.
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I love you so much. I love Maraca. We're not
going to have a very tricky relationship, even you've always
had a tricky relationship. Listen to me. So what else?
What else? Eric? You? What else? So? What did you
do when I was well? I was gone. I ran
the show, I ran the house, took care of the kids,
and I have help obviously for my mom. And tell
me are nanny who are saviors? You know, two people
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helping him also working, So not twenty four hours When
you talk about they don't live there, are you joking?
When you go to bed, they leave. You have a
lot of which is incredible. That is not Now you're
a very um not absent father. You're very very absent.
What is the opposite of absent present? You're very present dad?
You are your mom and dad when when mommy is working. Yeah,
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it's you know, I mean it was doing a lot
of that and just a lot of filming. You know.
I got to do an episode of Fantasy Island to
talk about that, which is episode six, I think, which
is going to be a lot of fun to see
how that turned out. Place of Survivalist, we have great
guests and Eric is one of them. I told the showrunners,
um that Eric was going to be in Puerto Rico
for five weeks and if there was anything available, Um,
(08:34):
that made sense, and immediately they offered him to do
a role. And did you like? It? Had a great time,
It was fun, It was It was great working with everybody,
and I think the show is going to be a success.
I think people are going to be looking forward to
this escapism, you know. So it was cool. We got
to work together, which is not our first time obviously,
but it's always fun when we get to work together.
(08:55):
We laugh, we joked around, and we had uh, you know,
sweaty as hell. It's so it was super humid on
some of the days we shot a mosquito. It was
it was it was yeah, that that part of the
whole thing because Puerto Rico is and you know, it's
a crazy correlation we just found out, which is just
how things line up. So the show, I do the
rookie right. We shoot at Warner Brothers. And it's so
(09:17):
random because Fantasy Island is shot in her version of
Fantasy Island is shot entirely on location in Puerto Rico.
They don't have sound stages, there's no studio. The original
Fantasy Island was shot, like nine of it was shot
on stage at Warner Brothers, on the two stages that
I actually shoot my show. I just learned that. So
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this was meant to be. So that is really bizarre.
All these years later, I book a show that your
original format shot on and then you go and do
that show. So it was meant for her to do
this project. I hope. So what I hope I'm making
Ricardo Montalban the original rourk. I play his great niece,
Lena Rourke. I I hope that he is in heavens,
(10:00):
miling down at me and appreciative and loving the fact
that I am able to continue his legacy. Because I'm
gonna be honest with you, I'm freaking out. I'm freaking out.
What is a big responsibility because he was such an iconic,
beloved character and now it's female and dig dig dig
diggy and then that, oh my goodness, but it will
(10:20):
be great. Hope. The island Puerto Rico looks fantastic, The
whole you know, looks. It looks beautiful. This is so
good for the tourism, for economic economic economical economic economic reason,
the economic reason, economic reasons. The crew was Puerto Rican
like it was Puerto Rican, a lot of Puerto Rican talent.
I am so I was the right sacrifice for her
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to stay in Puerto Rico and not come see her husband.
Um the kids got to see her more than I
did because they got to fly Miami. Were in Miami
a couple of times. But I think you probably enjoyed
the space. I think you enjoyed being away from me.
I actually think I loved it. I don't have to
think anymore. I know it. You Actually I miss you.
I missed I missed I missed you, and every time
(11:04):
I'm aware, I missed you like crazy. But sometimes it's
good to have a little bit of space to watch
whatever I want to watch on TV, to go to
bed when I want to, to to take a sleeping pill
without you telling me, not Baptist pills where it sounds
terrible when you say that, Why to take a pill?
You don't stop talking like that. You don't take a
little slip go to sleep. Well, sometimes I do. I
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have to so I can function the next day and
then what else I can do. Yeah, it's sometimes it's lovely.
You know that you love when I'm away because you
have the bed off for you. Yeah, I mean definitely,
there's there's there's good and you know, having space is
a good thing. This was very too much space. It
was having space I was I was actually, you know what.
Puerto Rico was a little easier because they went for
five weeks and I have my family and I have
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my closest friends over there. Miami was intense. Miami was intense,
and I didn't have my racka. Miami didn't have the
kids at least my rack. I was able to give
me a sense of normalcy, give me a sense of like,
my family is here. M Miami. It was bananas, bananas,
But I'm proud of what I did. I did called
Adam for Peacock. That comes out and the end of
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the year, hopefully next year, so it's not overlap, so
it doesn't overlap with Fantasy Island, but that one is
in Spanish and it's incredible, incredible. So anyways, on top
of all that, we have two very fun guests coming
on for our first episode that we actually know personally
through working together. That's how we met. There's other friends
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of ours now, but Rossland just worked with them on
Fantasy Island, Dave and or Dead Annabel, and they were
so lovely and I think when we were going to
ask him, but I think they had a really nice time.
Um although she has well I need to ask Um.
The two tell us that story about the restaurant. It
was really crazy. But anyways, they were so good and
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their storyline for the show is funny, funny, and I'm
sure everybody is gonna love them. I'm we're so happy
that they're part of that our first coming back, is
that correct? So then we're out, what's up, guys? Like
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to see you guys everything, to see your buddy. I know,
I'm sorry I missed you on in Puerto Rico. Uh no,
you have someone? Are you still down there? You guys
know we're back. We're back. I got back a while
ago to start my show, and then she just got
back two days ago. Was that the first time you
guys had been to Puerto Rico? No? Actually, we went
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how many years ago? Probably seven years ago? Probably more probably, Yeah,
I was like maybe ten years ago. We went to
b a case. Yeah, when they had the w there.
We went to the our friend Dia does the Hollywood
Domino Dia. Yeah, oh my god, I'm no, I'm in
high school. I love Dia on her sister. She's amazing,
(14:07):
she's amazing family. Yeah, So we went to the opening
of the hotel there because that was the only it
was one of the coolest things we've ever done. And
we wanted to do it when we were in Puerto Rico,
but we just didn't have time or the kid. Well
you got to do it at night, right, and we
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got a kid. That's where I proposed to her, was
on that on the Bio bay. Yeah it was. It
was a nightmare, but it was She said yes, but
it was a nightmare. It was he The whole place
was empty. It was just the two of us and
a guy. Nobody else. And I think we've talked about
this the past, but long story short, I had the ring.
We went out there. She's in front of the kayak.
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I'm in the back. The guy has been instructed to
like go away from us so I can say the
whole speech and like pop the question. And as soon
as he starts passing away, I started doing my thing.
And she's like senior and she's yelling, freaking out, and
he's leaving us. When the heck is he going? It's
pitch black and we don't we I don't know, I
don't know how to get back, and he was going.
I was like, just shut up, I gotta say all
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these things. It was a nightmare. But it never goes
the way you play. Never, I mean I literally I
had a whole speech and I go down on my knee,
Like I start saying, like, you know, before I went
down on my knee, I like I literally blacked out.
(15:32):
I just like clung to her. I was like, I love,
I love, I love, I love to what's going on here?
And then I started to go down. I started to
like go down on my knee. She's like, oh, you're
not proposing, are you? Like is this like a yes
sing or more like a no. I just like just
curious because I probably go down there for like an
(15:52):
hour and a half before he is didn't expect it.
When we are you guys, we were at the Senior
seed Ranch. Beautiful. It was so beautiful. It was amazing.
But I did not see it coming, Like he had
this beautiful ring. I was like, that's not real, Like
it literally went terrible. That funny, but it was funny,
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like you know, in a honestly like the moment it
did click like it was it was just great. We
we had like it was kind of like a most
like a football field size field up there where we
were alone. There was nobody up there, so that worked
out honestly. Um, and then you know, she sort of
tackled me, like, you know, after a click, I was like, oh,
this is real. Yeah, yeah, you guys been married. It'll
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be eleven years in October. Great right there, because I
have beautiful, perfect black hair, and now like look at that,
because you know, I'm just kidding. How how do you
guys meet We met through We didn't meet working together.
We met through us. This said, this is my favorite
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part of the story. Is you know she's a she
was a fan. She's lock it off, guys. You it's
weird though she's not anymore. She was I used to be.
Now I know much exactly. Oh my god, is this
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when you were on Brothers and Sisters around that time? Yeah, yeah,
I was. I was actually with a boyfriend at the
time and we were watching TV and probo for her
Brothers and Sisters came on and Dave's Space came on,
and I just like I had bombed at the mouth.
I was like, who is that guy with my boyfriend
next to me? I was like, that guy is so cute.
(17:47):
He was like all right, relaxed, and everybody hated my
boyfriend at the time. So when I went to work,
I was on a show for ABC as well, and
it was an international upfronts and one of my producers
driving me to Dave. She was like, I want you
to meet some and I was like I just I thought,
just cute. I don't want to meet him. And it
was like the most awkward exchange. Well, I like it
was Ken Olden and I at Turney hers round and
(18:10):
you know, this tall, beautiful girl was standing right there
and I had power and they're like, oh you're beautiful,
and uh I can hear you? Yeah? Sorry? And uh
So basically that was it. And then a full year later, um,
there was some after party or something like some g
Q event that where was the Teddy's at the Roosevelt
(18:32):
when we three kids? Yeah, and uh I went in
and I you know ce Vaka Tonics, and I saw
I saw Odie dancing and I didn't remember meeting her,
but I was like, oh, that girls beautiful and she
happened to be dancing with a mutual friend. So ye
(18:52):
made my way over there and I'm like hi, I'm
Dave and she's like, oh, we've met, and I was
like that's not a great start. Um, and then she
was like oh that's you know, she was like oh
that's my boyfriend right back there. And I was like
out of there. Um and that was it. And then
literally one meter later, I was just at of a
(19:13):
breakup and you were just at a break up. But
I didn't know at the time. But my sister was
in town and she was like, oh no she select
you know. So I was like, so I went to
some MTV party, you know, and she's like she saw
Ryan Phelippe. She's like, I'm done. That's all. I mean,
this is amazing. And um, I saw Odette walking on
the red carpet. I was like, oh, that's that's that girl.
(19:34):
That like, that's the girl. And my sister was ready
to leave and I was like, no, I don't want
to say hi. But I you know, I don't want
to say hi right away. Real creative, like let me
go lett, let's get drink mingle. Yeah, I got play
cool so or cool for me? Right. So basically an
hour goes by my sister Vigo we're out, and I
was like, give me a lap, Like, let's do a lap.
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So we do a lap and I see Odie in
a cloth circle of like eight girls, right, So like
as a dude, I was like, oh, this is, this
is it's a no fly zone. So I did like
the next best thing. I just sort of creaked and
like I went to the circle and was just like
staring in just seeing. And then from my point of view,
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my girlfriend was in town and she said the same thing.
She's like, I just want to see some celebrities. She
was in town from North Carolina. I was like, oh, okay,
well there's this party, let's go there. And then it
was sort of like the end of the night. And
then my girlfriends like, well, there's nobody here, but there
is that cute guy from Brothers and Sisters and he's
like staring right and I looked at was like, that's
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that guy. And she's like, I go say hi, And
I said, no, I don't want to say hi. It's
been like a weird thing. We've met a couple of times,
like for two years in a row, and she's like,
I want you to meet him. So she pushes me
and Dave is like right there. I'm like, oh, hey,
that's so weird. And then you know, it was like
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kind of a well I gave you a lot of
we get a lot of well, I mean, it was
it was like one of those things that like she
could tell like I'm nervous, and I started like floundering,
and she was like she had a go and you know,
she was like, he's not gonna ask me for my number.
I'm out of here. So then I was like, hey,
really good to see you, but I'm gonna go back
to my girlfriends. And I started walking away. It was
like three to what would it be weird? No, you
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want my number? And he's like, that would be great.
I was, and you were fresh out of relationships at
that point, like you guys. It just so I just
jumped back. It's always timing. I mean it took three years,
I have to say, because you and I worked together,
like on South Beaches when I first met you, like
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I did a guest star on that show, and you
were with a dude. Was it that same guy? And
nobody liked that guy? That guy that was the same boyfriend.
It's funny because I specific because he was on set
like the entire time with you. He was in Miami,
and I remember I think it was like it was
just like you could tell that not a lot of
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people like the guy, but there were the weird vibe.
That's funny. That's interesting your validated. I love Dave and
I work with Dave too, and I know we go
way back. I mean, it's just so wild and we
have so many neutual friends. It's so cool that we
got to work together to now Roslin I know. So,
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how do you guys navigate So it's been it's been
eleven years, you're both actors. I'm sure you have to
do the whole long distance because somebody's relocating somewhere else.
Um have how do you guys navigate the whole uh dynamic?
Now with a kid? Do you guys make a conscious
decision not to work? We just went through different you know.
That's always saying like I've been going for like eight
(22:50):
months and it's been hell. It's you know, it's it
is one of the trickiest parts of our job. I
would say, right, it's it's because you know, they're there's
so many good things, there's so many bad things. Um,
you know, but getting that call and you're like, oh,
you might have to go to Puto Rico for but
you know wherever that is, and you're like, we gotta
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like there's a lot of logistics we gotta figure out. Um,
I think overall in our career so far, we've been
fairly lucky where one of us working where it us
not you know where. It's been a nice balance. We've
been able to keep our home base in in l A.
But for for many years before we had Charlie, we
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kind of kept it with and we understand that this
was a luxury New York or l A. And it
worked out for us that one of us would either
take the job, you know, the checks in New York,
so then the other one would come with uh, you know.
We there was one time where we decided to do
Dave did a series regular show in Atlanta and I
did a mini series in New Orleans and that kind
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of little tricky because gosh, when you're not together for
more than I would say, two weeks at a time,
there is I just said this before, like there's this
two week thing that ever he talks about this business,
but it's hard to keep it. Yes, start to feel
that that disconnect, and I think, you know, human nature,
you need to be social, and you need to have
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you know, your your person, your partner, you're you know,
and as great as now FaceTime is and and the
whole thing I think that's kind of changed a little
the game a little bit, but I still think that,
you know, it's tough when you go more than two weeks.
I would say, well even though, because especially when you're
you know, unfortunate enough, you know, when your series regulars,
like You're, you're working, so it's not just easy to
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pack up and leave and go see you know each
other every two weeks. Uh, and then you know you're
you're it's it's it's distance, right, So it's like you're
talking about, hey, going out with your friends from the crew,
where you'd be like, oh, that's that you have a
whole separate life and have a whole separate life, and
it's like, you know, you can't expect your partners just
you know, sit in their room the whole time. But
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at the same time, that does bring a lot of like, oh, well,
I kind of wish I was there or you know
who that you know that's your name, because that's the thing,
because you don't know for the most part, you don't
know the person that that your partner is working with,
you know. And as much as thea oh she's so awesome,
all he's so great, you know, he's married they're so
fantastic up you don't know them, you know, so there's
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always that what if there's always that thing about I
wonder if they get along a little too well, you know,
and it's playing. Every time I've had to travel, I
can't sit in my room, like I will go by
myself and just sit at a restaurant. If it's not
with people from the like my cast crew, I have
to be going, going, going. I just get but you're
you're absurd anyway, like should be like where are you?
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I'm like, I don't know. I'm at a restaurant out
on about every time he travels, like on location, he
is out on above for absolutely no reason. He said,
you can't order freaking room service. I don't want, I
don't have to leave, but then if she goes out,
I like this. I'm just now can't like setting shop exactly.
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I'm like, I'm reading, I'm watching, I'm whatever, I'm writing,
I'm doing something. He's like, well, what are you? Went
to the gym and then I'm gonna go grab something
to eat and then I might just walk around. I'm
going for real. Dave doesn't like to walk a lot,
Like what mean you're walking. It's a new city. What
do you mean. I mean, I'm in my room or
room service. It's sleeping exactly. It's so we worked in Toronto.
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We did a Christmas movie in Toronto, was like two
years ago, and I was just like, you know, I
think we're gonna walk to working. You know. Everything that
was was just like taking the day, you know, listening
to my music or podcast or something, and I like
to feel the energy. It's like, you know, sort of walking. Yeah.
He plus it was a lot of time together, Merry
(26:48):
Christmas movie. Like he's a New Yorker. He will choose
the furthest parking spot ever. Always that will be that
go back my my biggest nightmare there you can't like
shoot the spot closest is not the one who'll ever
go to Odo stood there for twenty five minutes and
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wait for some old lady to back listen. This is Eric.
He doesn't want to spend the whatever five dollars ten
fifteen that valet will cost Eric. Eric Winter, So there's
valet very comfortable, um high heels. You can easily just
go to vallets so I can walk a couple of
steps and no, he likes to park like that all
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the way. I will I will put the freaking dollars.
I will park vale. I find it stupid sometimes, like
a frust where I'm like, there's a meter right there,
it's right there. It's like, no, it's get just dropping
over the valley, like fuck, just by the meter right there. Well,
we're in Austin, Texas. Now we live in Texas and
there's there's no valets whin I kind of love like
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you're able to go to the store and just walk
up and park. Oh yeah, you for Barta. But every
usually every restaurant has a playground for kids. Our minds
are blown. What is happening here? So why did you
decide Austin, Texas? When did that happen? And why? I
mean so so many factors. But Dave's family actually moved
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here from New York years probably over ten years ago, yeah, six,
six or seven years ago. So my younger sister is here,
uh with my brother in law's great they have three daughters.
My folks just moved here, uh at about an hour
north of Boston, right. So um, you know, I think
personal reasons, like for for us in our marriage and
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our family, you know, and it was easy for us
to get a little loss there and in Los Angeles
and you know, priorities and you know, we just sort
of wanted to focus on our family. And then you know,
COVID hit and that was we were we were quarantining,
you know, started in March, so we were there until
May and then you know it's like you didn't leave
your house at all, and then you know, we faced
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on my sister and the kids were just running around
and the woods and playing and it was kind of like,
you know, we're in the Countrete jungle specifically where we
were in Los Angeles, and we came down to visit
and we're just like, man, this is it's a little ride. Yeah,
went Rento the lake House and we had late life
and like how this feels. This feels great. And we
originally were looking for a place to rent, you know,
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like just for a year, aget at l A and
it was actually it was kind of slim pickings because
I don't think we were alone and a lot of
people were sort of leaving the big cities and coming down,
you know, coming down in Texas. So we found this.
We looked at a bunch of houses and we found
this house that was and it checked off. All the
(29:46):
boy were in the coort A gated neighborhood. Basically we're
on two golf courses, uh um. And you know it
was a million and a half dollars cheaper. Yeah. So
it was one of those things where it's like, you know,
this is you know, and it was it was I
don't want It was tough to convince a debt. But
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Odette's families all in Riverside like Los Angeles. But it
was one of those things. I was like this, We're
not signing a life contract, you know, just this this
is I was like, let's call this like our wait
and see house. Right, Let's move there and wait and
see and like live. You know, life is experience and
different experiences and let's go down there and learn how
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to fish and you know, just have this whole different
Texas life and and see you know where we in
many ways, we started a brand new chapter in our
marriage and in the parenthood, and you know, we really
needed to start fresh for so many reasons. But you know,
I think I struggled because I'm a California girl through
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and through my family is there. I'm Cuban and so
I have a very very close knit family that I
speak to all time, and you know, we were at
arms length for then. We were about an hour away,
and my parents are so great with Charlie and they
had a great relationship. So I had that like, I
don't know how I feel about this, and specifically I
(31:10):
didn't really love to work, you know, and I didn't
I didn't see how in my mind moving to Texas
was going to open any doors for us in in
the in the career way. But as we had it,
and as the universe, god, whatever you like to say, works.
A month into us moving out, I got a call.
I think Dave actually reached out and and saw that
(31:31):
there was a reboot of Walker Texas Ranger in in
uh in Austin. And then a month later they called
me and they're like, hey, do you want to be
on the show. We heard that you moved here. So
it was kind of lot, you know, we were being
guy and it was like, oh, here's this job. Don't worry,
You're on the right path. Yeah, and you know, it's
(31:52):
just it's it's it's just I think everybody needs their
own shakeub whatever that is right, and and this was
our shakeup. You know, we um known, you know, we've
got a babysitter and like which it's all us and
and I think that's um hard but rewarding. And it
was just something very different for us that we just
work from having a full time danny, you know the
(32:12):
whole deal. Do you think do you think is working out?
I mean this is a personal question, very personal, so
you guys don't have to answer, But do you think
it's been better for the marriage? It has brought you
guys more together one it's a I would say it's
a brand new marriage, you know. And you know, everything
(32:37):
for me specifically has been put into perspective. And I
think that you can get really lost in Los Angeles,
even just as a parent, and there's so many invites,
there's so many your brain is filled with all these
things that you feel like you have to do until
you're removed and your focus specifically, and I think the
pandemic did this for a lot of people. And I
(32:58):
knew there were made marriages, broke marriages. It you know,
it brought you stronger. For us, and specifically, it really
did bring us together. And you know, I think that
being in a quiet place like this and being immersed
in nature. I don't know if you can see, but
we're at the top of trees here. Every that you
see in our houses just tree tops and it's nature.
(33:21):
And it wasn't something that you know, I was raised
on a farm growing up, and it was something that
I kind of sort of forgot about. And now we
see deer and I mean I had to, you know,
swerve off the side of road because there was a
turtle crossing. It's just a different it's it's a different life.
But I also still get my city. Like Austin is
(33:42):
a really read city. It's so alive. We just when
we had friends in town and it's like music and
the city is alive, and you know, it's still We're
still like part of you know, you can get your fixed.
You get your fix when you need it, but you
can go back and have your space and have your
privacy and and have the family. You know, we've talked
(34:03):
about it. It's funny a lot too because I'm from
l A. I'm born and raised here. It's all I
know as well. Um, but we've been getting the same
kind of itch about do we need to just get
out of here? Do we need to change? It's I
think also with this stint of her being gone for
so long was also just it was it was a
shock for our marriage. Again, We've never had this kind
(34:24):
of distance before over this long of a time, and
it was just a lot of we need to shake
it up, like we might need change, we might need
something different. Um and like that a bit of being
thrown into something which is kind of like a survival
in a way because you're having to do it together
and figure it out and navigate this new land that
you're going to. It brings you together, It shakes it up,
(34:46):
you know, you have to start over. Yeah, and that's
what it really you know, did I mean, you know,
it's no secret. You know we were we were kind
of about breaking our marriage, right, we were separating for
a little bit, and and the pandemic, you know, we
sort of made a decision like, hey, we're a family,
no matter what happens, We're you know, we're gonna ride
this ride. This scary that was very scary at the beginning,
(35:09):
and and you know, as it is now, but you know,
we don't different scary and so that was kind of
a no brainer for us. And you know, as that
time together and realizing what was important. That really brought
us closer together. And you guys Soper right for how long?
About six months? Yeah, about about six months. This is
(35:31):
with Charlie already. How how old is Charlie for four? Yeah,
Charlie's uh yeah, she was fo Yeah she was four. Yeah.
So we sold our house and so that's sort of
like how it all kind of the house was already done.
You were living in your own spaces, so that was
sort of one thing gone, Like it was a huge
(35:53):
you know, the house is not there, so now you've
got to rebuild the We actually fortunately sold our house,
uh like two days before the stocks crashed at the
beginning of of Coronas. So yeah, then basically it was
that decision like she was reading a spot, I was
reading a spot. I was actually living on my friend's
boat for a while with Marino, which was crazy. We
(36:16):
got a story, but Jesus Christ, so then we uh,
you know, that's when I moved in. And then that's
when you know, a lot of work, right, a lot
of real honest conversations and therapy and focus about what
is important in this life. So they've given a second
(36:37):
given the relationship a second chance, another opportunity. Was it
because of Charlie? You guys are parents, so you want
to be responsible? Or was it because you know what
besides Charlie? We realized after six months, you're I want
to work it out because you're my soul amplifier. You
know that what what was it? Of course Charlie is
(36:57):
going to be a factor, you know, because she's our daughter.
And but truly and honestly, when we were kind of
forced and we made the choice, of course, you're not forced.
We made the choice that quarantined together for our daughter
co parenting together because you know, we didn't know what
was going on, but we still we also the preface
(37:17):
that or context like we were still like kind to
you know what I'm saying, Like it was right right,
you know, we're both parents and and you know we
that choice for a separation wasn't you know, something light.
It wasn't you know, passing the way in something? And
and so you know we were we're told and guided
(37:40):
and the right people in our right instincts that like
this is we're gonna be knowing each other for the
rest of our lives. We need to be friends. Like
and somebody said it great, like you know, and when
Charlie gets married, do you guys want to be on
you know, either side of the aisle with this sort
of animosity or do you want to be holding hands
whether you have to get either, or your own partners
(38:01):
and crying and celebrating together. And it was it's just
that clear, like we we sort of know what we wanted,
and so when we did decide to move in, it
was you know, there was not like we didn't have
to get through too much to be kind to each other,
you know what I'm saying, Like there was never any
of that. But you know, through that process, you know,
we really fell in love again. And that was still
(38:24):
a lot of therapies and a lot of really tough
conversations and and you know, just being a family just
be her and Charlie have nothing to do and you know,
your time. Yeah, like there's no distractions. There's no going
to lunch with friends or going to this or like
it was like, yo, you're here, We're playing candy Land
(38:44):
every night. You know, we're like literally a family. And
that was something that um, you know, well weirdly always
be grateful for Yeah, you know, for sure with the pandemic,
for sure, So did you move on to the boat? Oh?
Dad back together the vote? So yeah, you guys, you guys,
(39:14):
you you quarantined together, which clearly I mean the way
you broke it down. I think it's going to be
I think inspiring for a lot of people to hear
in general, even for us, like to know that you
can work through such a tough time and still rediscover
each other and have that respect the entire time and
build upon that foundation that you guys had for all
(39:34):
those years. I mean, that's that's incredible. What thank thank
you for the lesson that was so valuable. That makes
the first move. By the way, when you guys are
back living together and you're deciding, okay, do we cross
that line? Who made the first move? I think that
was me. Let's go back to the earlier conversations. You know,
(39:59):
but you know what, what what what what led us to
sort of get better or let me just say this,
it wouldn't have happened if we each, in our individual
journeys in that six months, didn't do a lot of
work on ourselves. And that was something that you know,
I went to a five day silent retreat, like you
(40:21):
don't speak the entire time, right, Yeah, I don't know
if I could do. I have a lot of respect
you for doing that. You can't like um. And it was,
you know, because I had no idea what I was doing.
I you know, it was sort of like it was
really into meditation and you know I've heard about this
and I was like, oh that's something like you know,
(40:43):
I was like alone. I was like, let me try
it right, and you know what, she's got the kid.
I'm like, I'm gonna do something different, and uh, you know,
I was always like, oh, this is gonna be like
I'm gonna be like, oh, hi, good morning. You know
I said that, But the woman that was running it
said something like the first night because you go when
you you have dinner, you beat you know. There was
sixteen of us, and you know, basically I was in
(41:05):
a room my five roommates, you know, like and I'm like,
literally in a room with five roommates. You don't speak
the whole time. But the first night they were like,
you know, your instincts maybe to like say hot I
or to make a joke. But she's like, I want
you to remember that that's what that's your instinct and
(41:26):
what the other person is you don't know what the
other person is going, and you might take them out
of their moment right there, their beautiful moment with themselves
and you're just trying to be like, hey, don't you
know could could really shake them up? And I was like, oh, yeah,
it's not about me. I was like, all right, mean
that that really helped me like not not speak. So,
(41:46):
I mean it was wild, and it was we were
meditating five times a day and I only basically meditated,
you know, ten minutes a day. It was kind of
my thing. But you know, we had like our meditations
and I was like, but I tell you what, I've
never been clear in my life my mind, and like
I was just crystal clear, and I was like, holy,
(42:08):
this is a whole different way of like seeing the world.
Like I zoomed out perspective of every day and I
felt great. And you know, I think there's a difference
of that when he came back, Uh yeah, he needs
to go back. No, No, absolutely, you know it's true.
(42:32):
I mean, if you don't have your own individual journey
and whatever that may be, I don't think that we
would have been able to come together in the way
that we did. I I had my own you know,
reflections and time with therapists and really just working on
myself and finding that self love. In order to truly
(42:54):
love anybody else, I think you've got to really find
find who you are and you know what you're about
and how you're going to recalibrate through going through something
you know, so traumatic. And so when we quarantined together,
I think we had a different foundation for ourselves that
we didn't have before, where it was more of like
(43:15):
a codependent thing, and I think we were coming in
as two whole people and that was the basis of
our new relationship. We had a real awareness too of
you know, not getting back together because it's comfortable, because
it's Charlie, because Charlie, because it's easy, and like we're
both very open about we need to choose one another
(43:37):
again and once that choice is made, then everything else
will sort of fall into place. And and then and
that did happen was like a specific moment where like
I choose you, I choose you. But student tears on
the moves she was a fan. After all came back.
(44:07):
They always go back for a second, and then we
will We're gonna play a little something called talking talkien coca.
You know what talking that's not Spanish is Listen to me.
Is it true that you're have Puerto Rican? That's not true? Right,
want we want to solve this mystery. I'm a quarter well,
(44:29):
I didn't know you're doing Puerto Rican blowed. I didn't
know that I was going against Wikipedia. I'm going Pukipedia's boot.
That's not even true, but it's true. Like he's my
Puerto Rican. My grandma came over when she was sixteen
she was born, and her parents no English. I'll believe.
I believe the whole star of the family, no no English.
Where was he? Uh say? So San Sebastian beautiful. That's okay.
(45:00):
So we gotta come back and we're gonna play something
called talking talking. It's just almost fast questions and answer
rapid fire. Thank you, okay, so we'll be back. So
we are back, and he said, with our good friends,
(45:22):
Thank you, Dave. This has been so interesting and positive
and needed, especially because listen, you guys are actors, were actors,
so you we understand the lifestyle. You know, anybody can
relate to it, you know what I mean, like everybody
the problems and everybody has things they have to work
through and marriage is not easy. Marriage becomes a job
at some point that if you don't put in the
(45:43):
time and the energy, you're gonna lose your job, your marriage.
It's not just the honeymoon phase. Face. So we're gonna
play something called talking go and this is just gonna
be just for fun. You know. We we talked a
lot of deep, deep substance. Now we're just going to
keep it light on and fun. So very fast. Do
(46:03):
you believe opposites attract? Yes, this is attract? Yes? Okay.
Do you believe in soulmates? Yes? That's funny. It was
the best way to end an argument. Oh I like
that sex. We should try that more. I always have
(46:25):
to have your last week. I mean, I think apologizing.
Oh it's the sex is the apology. Like Eric, we'll
talk about the same topic over and over for twenty
four hours on Jazy here's apology or thank you, thank you, Eric,
(46:45):
thank you, thank you, thank you, And I'm good. If
you're having a crappy day, what would you want your
wife or husband, boyfriend, a wife her husband to do
to help if you're having a crappy day, sex I
couldn't agree more it's perfect. Everything is song with sex. Okay,
(47:09):
but what about you leave me alone? Perfect? Talk to
me literally alone exactly? Do not talk to me? What
kind of affection do you want to get in public?
What is too much and what is too little? You
guys have lovely dobby like like those couples are like
all day long. I try to listen all w a
(47:31):
handhold right, just like you know we're walking. Just a
handhold or just a little attention. Yeah, I can do
a handhold, but I am not. I feel very uncomfortable
when I see couples taking I think it's stupid. I
think it's stupid people listening that. Sorry, do you guys
you do that? You're stupid. If you do that, you're stupid.
(47:56):
Ideal date night sex, Oh my god. Answer answers we
were exactly the same. Leave me up dinner and sex,
dinner and leave me dinner, leave me alone, tell me
(48:18):
to a nice dinner. They don't talk to me older.
I'm like, let's have sex before dinner's retired. Later, Oh
go to sleep. Oh my god, that would be me.
Ideal Valentine's Day Probably same answer answer said, I look
at the next one on a scale of one to
a hundred. How important is sex? We know the answer
(48:39):
to that answer. Okay, listen, got to connect. I agree.
Best relationship advice you can give to the work, do
the work, stay present, work good work. You can you shoot?
Can you shoot? Do you stay friends with your ex?
(49:03):
I think some people can can do that and make
it work. I don't think it usually works. Yeah, I
think there's an awareness, like upside down side, what's the
upside of being your friends with your ex? Like? Where
is it? Dad? Or I remember that when we were
both married before and I was my husband. His husband
was English and his brother married a Puerto Rican funny enough,
(49:25):
so it was two englishmen with tu Puerto Rican. So
of course we became really really close, really good friends.
And then we got divorced, and I stayed very close
to Ronnie and Clarisa because they were like family to me.
And that lasted how long? At some point you were like,
I'm not big, I'm not saying you'd be enemies with
your ex, but I don't see the point. And like
maintaining a relationship, where where are you headed? It's a
(49:48):
nice thought, I think, but yeah, it is. It is
weird alright, Can couples actually be best friends. Absolutely, yes, yes,
I think so. I that Dave and I are best friends.
We like to do the same stuff. They're just sex,
sex and more sex. Oh my god, oh my god.
(50:13):
Best last question, best pickup line? I've got nothing? What's yours?
How much does the polar bear way enough to break
the ice? Enough to break there? I like to break
the ice with somebody. Why is your best pipe? My
best pickup blame? My name is Eric. Kind of bout
your drink? That was? That was a big up line
(50:33):
to me. I'm not good with pickup lines. I agree,
you don't need it too handsome, terrible smile, I don't
know smile exactly. Smile. Just be cute. That's a pipe,
Just be yourself. It would be funny. Guy. That was awesome.
Thank you. Go to see you guys. You can catch
(50:55):
Dave and Annabelle this week on Fantasy Island on Fox.
They have money, prodible storyline and body swabs. Um. It was.
It was a lot of fun. You know what? Can
I tell you something? Guys? And this is a true story.
All the writers and all the the crew members and
even Kiara and John, the two um series regulars their
favorite episode and the favorite storyline is your storyline. They
(51:18):
love you, guys, love you guys, So people are going
to do you love everybody. It was such a great experience.
I mean, and we had a really great time shooting it.
I mean, we want we did a little a d
R and I was cracking. This is I'm so I'm
(51:42):
so glad. I'm so glad you guys loved it. Hopefully
we can do it over and over again, all our characters.
I have to come back for season two. Awesome, all right,
thank you? Bye. So how how do you feel about
that increde well story that they got separated? Then? I
(52:02):
mean so cool? First of all, to be able to
connect with friends of ours and I didn't know all
of that, Like I mean, you know, we're friends with
them and we don't talk to him on a regular basis.
But to learn all of that and have them share
their journey, I'm so glad they worked it out. Yeah,
me too, and very very helpful for I think for
many for many reasons, for hopefully our listeners and for
us some perspective. So in perspective, are we moving so
(52:23):
we can stay solid? Might have to move by them Austin, Texas.
Why don't we go to Miami? Well, well that's another episode.
All right, thanks for listening and glad to be back.
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