September 27, 2024 • 29 mins
Welcome to Historical Records, a brand new family podcast where host Nimene turns history into hip-hop with the help of rappers, researchers and raccoons. In our very first episode, we learn all about the trailblazing, muckraking journalist Ida Tarbell, who took down one of the most powerful monopolies in history with the power of her pen. Featuring an interview between author/journalist Susan Orlean and a 12 year old writer from Colorado named Sophia and a brand new hip-hop track featuring MOZIAH and Carly Ciarrocchi.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey listeners, Niminy here, host of historical records. Get ready
to hear about a historical hero through hip hop. Also,
parents and teachers, You can download a free activity related
to today's episode by visiting story pirates dot com. Slash
Historical records, and now onto the show. After a few
(00:22):
words for the grown ups, Hey listeners, niminy here. I'm sorry,
I'm just running a little late the whole time, and
we should be there any second. Where is it? Oh,
(00:44):
I know it's here, somewhere in this huge and uninviting desert.
Oh wait, there's a normal cactus. Hor the normal cactus.
We're here, my mostly underground, top secretory. I mean, nothing
to say here in this big empty desert. Certainly not
(01:06):
a highly secure state of the art.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Door. Hello, hello, door, Please pass word?
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Yes the password that I definitely remember. Don't worry everybody.
I know the password.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
It's bucklover incorrect.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Okay, bag it incorrect. Well, I know it's something delicious
that starts with the letter B. How about BONDI but
joy blenched black words with breest beets on buttered banana? Correct?
Got it? Wait which one was it?
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Entry?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Granted? Well figure it out next time. It's historical.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
You are now listening to It's.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
To make history. You got to have struggles to make history.
You got to show poise. Cannot be quiet loud as
the riot to make history. You gotta make some noise. Well, listeners,
we're in. Let's try this again. Hello. I am Mimony.
Welcome to my secret laboratory, a place where I am
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conducting highly experimental experiments turning history into hip hop. You see,
I study historical records so I can drop historical records
and get it. And today's episode is about an incredible
woman who is the mother of investigative journalism and a
trailblazing muckraker who toppled monopolies, Ida Tarbell. Much more on
(02:51):
that later, but first I want to give you a
tour of my lab. This place has every single history
and hip hop loving podcast host could possible. Oh like
this room. This is the vocal booth echo chamber, in
case you're making music and want to say something really important.
(03:11):
What limony is cool? Cool? All echo boots. The echo
booth is also great for personal affirmations. And over here
in this room is where I keep all the musical notes.
(03:31):
Little to organize at the moment, but sometimes you can find.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
You need.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Nice. Well, let's keep walking. I'll clean that up later.
Excuse me. Oh, this next room is where my hypeman
hangs out. Just wait till you see how fired up
this guy is. Now people say what. I'm sorry, You're
hired to hype people up, not to be asleep. Sorry,
(04:03):
you're better than this, Phil, you know what.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
My bad, My bad?
Speaker 1 (04:08):
That was foods bad. Now we're talking ficky bye. Okay,
continuing the tour. This state of the art studio filled
with raccoons playing drums is where I make the beats. Well,
it's where the raccoons make the beats. How are the
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beats coming, tina?
Speaker 5 (04:33):
Ooh that's not good.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
You think we'll still hit the deadline? Betina, I need
a sick be in like fifteen minutes. I have some
amazing rappers and singers coming to lay down the track.
Get it done, sorry, listeners. If there's one thing raccoons
do not like, it's deadlines. Anyway, We're about to enter
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the history portion of the tour, and things are going
to get a little personal because the first room contains
my personal history. See here are my baby clothes, my
old baseball uniforms. Oh the picture of me starring in himlin. Oh, Niminy,
look at you being design own self?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
True way.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
What is this? It's a tape labeled Niminy's first rap ever. Oh,
let's listen. Hello everyone, let me introduce me. My name
means charming. I have Nimmini. I like hip hop as
you can play in the least seat, but my favorite
subject is his covery. What my first rap was about
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history and hip hop. I guess it's always been my
destiny to combine my two great passions in to one
killer podcast. Okay, listeners, I normally would not recommend running
from your past, but we're short on time, so let's
keep moving now. I don't want to overhype it, but
this next room is incredible because it contains every history
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book that has ever been written. It's like the Internet,
but maser. This is a historical records library. As you
can see, it's giant. But don't worry. You can get
to any book using this incredibly fast and elaborate train
track and trolley's system that I built. Watch, hold on tight,
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what and what first? Over here we have cultural history,
and over there that's the history of medicine. And up
in those bleachers we got sports history. And somewhere around
here is histories mysteries, not sure where exactly. Oh, and
down in that cave is early human history, and where
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up at the top is the history of space exploration.
And that's just a taste of what the library has
to offer. It's pretty amazing, I know. And making it
even cooler is the fact that I hire two historians
who now live here in the library. They help break
down the history so I can't break down the history,
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although sometimes the historians can be a little hard to
find because the library.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Is so huge.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Hi, Nimini, how long.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Have you been sitting in this trolley car?
Speaker 2 (07:22):
The entire time? I just didn't want to interrupt you
because you're really on a roll.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Well, even though I prefer you never sneak up on
me like that, I must admit your timing is impeccable.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Let me guess you're ready to learn about Aida Tarbell?
How did you know? As always, I did my research.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Wellie, if I'm gonna make a killer track that encapsulates
Ida Tarbell's whole life, no big deal at all. What
do we need to know about Ida Tarbell?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Well, Nimini, There is a lot to know about Aida Tarbell,
but the main, most important thing is that she was
a writer and a journalist who basically invented investigative journalism
in the United States. Okay, now.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Hold on, wait, what what's happening.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
I'm taking you to the other side of the library,
to the history simulator.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Gotcha. Now, obviously I know what investigative journalism is. But
for those who don't, what is investigative journalism? Okay?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Okay, So investigative journalism is when a journalist chooses a
topic which is usually something sort of scandalous, like a
serious crime, or political corruption or shady business deals, right,
exposing corruption?
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Simple.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Oh, and they spend months or sometimes even years, doing
all sorts of research in order to find facts that
can expose the truth. And the reason they're doing all
of this is because they want to create change. Oh excellent,
we're here.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Whoa, this is the history simulator. It looks like a
glowing alien cocoon. You built this yourself, Lee, of course not.
I'm a historian, not a scientist.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I had the raccoons to it, Lea.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
That's why they're running behind on making the beats, and
why so much of this machine seems to be made
of garbage.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah, try not to breathe through your nose, but trust me,
this is gonna be worth it. Can you hit that
big red.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Button, the one that says time travel with two exclamation points,
that's the one I would love to Here we go?
What welcome to?
Speaker 2 (09:34):
This is a gilded age, specifically the year nineteen oh four.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Whose house are we in?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Are a tarbells?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Of course?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Have a seat?
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Wow, these old timey armchairs are comfortable. Why are all
those magazines on the coffee table ripped up?
Speaker 2 (09:52):
That is this month's issue of McClure's magazine. It's supposed
to be a reliable source of news, but newsflash, it's not.
It's totally exaggerated, sensationalized, and made to be as melodramatic
as possible just to sell newspapers.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
That doesn't seem good, that's because it's not.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
But that is about to change. This new group of journalists,
these muckrakers as they call them, led by Aida Tarbell,
are using the power of the pen to tell the truth.
And tonight, right here Ada will put the finishing touches
on the final installment of her nineteen part epic series
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that exposes the corruption and unethical practices behind one of
the largest and most powerful businesses of our time, the
Standard Oil company.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Ida Tarbell is going up against Standard Oil? Why was
she doing that? Like? What was their deal? Who ran
Standard Oil? And why were they so bad?
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Great questions, Let's go check it out. Hit the button.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Oh I love buttons. Wow, this is a fancy office.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
You bet it is. Welcome to Standard Oil. A company
that became a monopoly. Have you heard that word before? Yes?
Oh I love that game. No, No, not the game.
A company has a monopoly when they pretty much wipe
out all their competition in whatever it is they're selling, and.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
That's bad.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Well, it's good for them, but bad for everyone else
for a lot of reasons. Like what Well, for example,
a company with no competitors can charge people whatever price
they want. And with that kind of power, how much
do you think they're going to charge? A whole lot?
Speaker 1 (11:40):
That's what I would do.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Well, if you did that, you might end up like
John D. Rockefeller, the owner of this office, the person
who ran Standard Oil and by far the richest American
to ever live. Hmm.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Rich fill their pockets while the poor getting filled with
rage last, living life.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Day to day in the Gilded Age precisely.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Okay, so we've got Ida Tarbo, this normal woman who
just invented investigative journalism on one side of the coin,
and on the other side, we've got this rich billionaire,
John D. Rockefeller, the owner of Standard Oil. How the
heck is Ida Tarbell gonna take down such a huge tycoon?
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Let's go see.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Ooh, does that mean I can press the button again?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Go for it?
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Button time? Whoa Montagh alert? Look at Ida traveling all
around the country. What's she doing? Research?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
She spent years traveling around the country interviewing anyone who
would talk to her.
Speaker 6 (12:38):
Excuse me, ma'am, I'm Ida Tarbelle with McClure's magazine.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
I wonder if I might ask you some questions.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
And she spent hours and hours in my favorite place,
the library, digging through hundreds and even thousands of documents
in order to find evidence of John D. Rockefeller's wrongdoing him.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
The library is closing, Tarbell.
Speaker 6 (13:01):
Sorry, I just need to finish reading this one document, huh.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
I see, Ida as a writer was tenacious, audacious. Her
appetite for research was voracious. Let's face it.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Then, All of her writing was published in McClure's magazine.
The articles were so popular that they were turned into
an even more popular book. All this attention on Rockefeller's
greedy business dealings made it all the way to wait
for it, the Supreme Court of the United States, only
the highest core in the whole land.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
And what did they decide?
Speaker 2 (13:34):
They found that Standard Oil was in fact an illegal monopoly. Yes,
I did, and they ordered that Standard Oil be broken
up into get this, thirty four different companies.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Wow, Rockefeller got busted.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
You sure did. In fact, trust busting is what everyone called,
breaking up greedy companies like Standard Oil and that end
of our history simulation.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Whow wow.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
I'm inspired.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Lee. With a clear objective and a belief in yourself,
you can really accomplish anything you want to do. Huh.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
I think you phrased that really beautifully. In fact, can
I share one of my favorite things that Ada Tarbell
ever said?
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Please do?
Speaker 2 (14:22):
She said, imagination is the only key to the future.
Without it, none exists. With it, all things are possible.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Oh that is beautiful. Thank you so much, Lee for
all this information. And now please excuse me, I have
to take all this incredible historical knowledge and turn it
into an incredible historical record. I'm pretty sure I have
a few amazing musicians waiting for me in the studio. Also,
I gotta check in on the raccoons. Back into the trolley. Wait, lemany,
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you didn't take any note? Are you sure you don't
remember all day? There's only one way to find out. Okay, listeners,
it is finally time for our first experiment. Let's turn
this piece of history into an epic show stopping song
for these ages. And here we are. Hello, Recon, Hey Dina,
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you got that beat ready. I knew you'll pull it off.
I look, today's guest vocalists, Mosiah and Carly Shiraki are
already in the booth. Seems like we are ready to
make a historical record. Let's see what we got hit it.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
This is the story of me, I T. Tarbelle and
me John D.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Rockefeller and me a narrator.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Let's begin. Shall we open your mind and imagine the
time we're in the quality Italian poverty on the ride,
witches holded by a small corn group.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Monopoly not on the game.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Board, they be up inside the boardroom, and the newspapers
supposed to be mad are only interested in profit in
the news an ad breech field of pocket while the
poor gaden filled with raids.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
That's living life day to day in the guilded age.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Sure another century nineteen oh one, the USA is of
power but in trouble. In the long run journalism yella
and the wealth control by fellas. Just like John D.
Rockefeller man, the people need a truth teller, someone Feller,
an extra special writer with the quality is a truth
and perseverance up inside the A fighter for the week
two the stronger than Kobita.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
Last name Tarbell, first name Ida, lifting up the league.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Like a park.
Speaker 7 (16:40):
And suring off an indelism time where breaking all the puck.
She's a journalistic marvel, the making sure.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
I always stay impartial.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
When I was a youth, my dad was part of
the crew of small oil well producers using rail to
move crew fod until a dud named Rockefeler came through
and pulled a coup, made.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
A truce with the trains and soon the crowd and
it was screwed. Oh.
Speaker 6 (17:06):
I was mad, but had no way to make come up,
and was just a young girl in the lower class.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
I was mailing upper crust he had to take the punches,
wait with made the bread and other.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
Trusts stunny hard, and did my time till I could throw.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
My upper listen.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Meanwhile, meet John d ib came a true tighten up
the industry.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Some called the Robbert Baron because he swindled to a
mass fun.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Most were taken in by my big fortune and my charities.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Yes, my foils sounded standard oil.
Speaker 6 (17:31):
And soon he had more money than the royals, while
I toil in Paris pending her pieces to noble claim
if this quickerly, anybody out there even knew the name.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Printing, not the meat like a prime, it's sure enough.
Speaker 7 (17:49):
Ronandra sism far where, breaking all the mud. She's a
journalistic marvel.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Making sure I always stay impartial.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Aida as a writer was adacious, half the type for
research respirations, facing only a matter of time before she
set her best investigative skills on the man from her past.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
John Rockefeller, who do my dad back in the day,
became the subject of my magazines.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Next expo, we got ourselves a showdown. Now you could
call it high new writer with the grubs, the big
budget Tihu.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Night is on the case, learning anything she can learn documents, photographs.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
I've even talked to inter the biggest breaker.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Ride when she interviewed John number two.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Told me everything we talked to Henry.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Oh, that's bad news.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
The series came in nineteen parts of Standard Oil's history, Backroom.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Deal's corruption, fraud. It finally solved the mystery.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Of how Dundee to frauded Dad.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
I got revenge from my high line and taught the
world the name of the woman on the byeline.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Bringing out the league like a bar.
Speaker 7 (18:56):
It's suing off nine systems are well, breaking all the musks.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
She's a journalistic marvel.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
But making sure I always stay impartial.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Results wasn't led to justice.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
The laws got more robust than the sherman neck I
passed down and busted all the trust up.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
People's trusting journalists adjusted, and the huckster Rockefeller lost his luster, britting.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Nothing meat like a park.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Taking down the pluocratic cartel.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
No fear, breaking all the MUCKs.
Speaker 7 (19:37):
She's a journalistic marvel.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
I guess I wasn't always so impartial.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Yeah, yeah, she really, she really was not that impartial
at all. Yeah, I'm the narrator. I'm saying that she
was not impartial.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah, she really did.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
She really didn't take you down.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Can we agree you had it coming?
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Though?
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Eh?
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Yeah, I was corrupted. I didn't correct thing it coming.
I should be in jail forever. Yeah. No, of course
I I'm with one hundred percent agree with you. I
had it coming. We'll be right back after a few
words for the grown ups. Yes, what a jam, Tina,
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you pulled it off. And Phil the hype Man, I
know you didn't do anything on that song, but I
could feel your positive energy.
Speaker 7 (20:35):
I am super supportive, supportive, supportive.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Oh my alarm.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Oh that means I'm late for today's interview.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
You're gonna interview me, Phil the hype Man?
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Oh no, Phil, am I interviewing you?
Speaker 5 (20:52):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Misunderstanding? Hanging in? No, no, no, Tina, I am not
interviewing you. In fact, I'm not interviewing anyone. I just
get to listen in. Well, well, what, please explain yourself? Well, obviously,
Ida Tarbell is amazing, but I thought it would be
really cool for a kid to talk to a trailblazing
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writer of today. Thanks Tina the Raccoon. I thought it
was a good idea too, So a twelve year old
from Denver named Sophia is going to be interviewing the
amazing writing legend Susan Orlean. Susan is a staff writer
for The New Yorker and the author of books like
The Orchid Thief and On Animals. That's dope, I know.
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And to make it even cooler, I am going to
use never before seen technology to get to the interview.
Watch this.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Uh it looks like you're just logging into zoom.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Phil make it hi or something. Come on, Oh right, sorry,
she's using the Internet like a wizard.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Who look at that?
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Everyone is here. Hi, Sophia, Hi Susan. Why don't we
start with you both introducing yourselves. Hi.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
I'm Sophia. I'm twelve years old. I love Denver, Colorado.
I you she her pronouns, and I am very into writing.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I'm Susan Orlean.
Speaker 8 (22:13):
I'm a staff writer at the New Yorker magazine, and
I'm the author of eight books. I've been writing ever
since I could lift a pen, and I love it
just as much now as I did many many years
ago when I began, Susan.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
What do you find interesting about Ida Tarbell?
Speaker 8 (22:37):
One of the things that I found really interesting about Ida,
besides the fact that she was pioneering as a woman
was her interest in science. It was that she brought
the rigor of scientific analysis to journalism. This was a
time when journalism was really finding its way and it
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wasn't necessarily guided by rational rules in any way, and
proof and conjectures and supporting hypotheses are really all very
central to what we think of today is journalism.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
But she was pretty pioneering. I thought that was really cool.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
But Sophia, it seems like Ida, despite being an important pioneer,
isn't that well.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
Known, even though she was probably one of the founding
people of investigative journalism. I could walk up to like
one of my friends, for example, and then go and
ask them, Oh, yeah, have you ever heard of Ida
tar Bell? And they'd probably be like.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Who, Sophia. Do you have any questions for Susan about
her writing or her career.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
One of the things that I've noticed is whenever you're
talking with someone, your quotes are just so specific and
you seem to have it all like you're actually there.
But I was really wondering, like, how are you able
to get all of these quotes in? What does it
look like when you're writing an article or a book.
Do you have like specific notebook that you use or
is some of this coming from memory? What does that
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process look like?
Speaker 8 (24:11):
I like using a notebook, and there's a very particular
kind of notebook that I love, and it's called a
reporter's notebook. It's long and skinny, and it was designed
and interesting that we're speaking about a woman journalist. It
was designed for male journalists to be able to keep
in their back pocket because at that time, of course,
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women didn't wear pants with pockets. Now. I rely a
lot on my memory, for sure, but I don't trust
my memory for quotes. So quotes I need to write down.
But if I am not able to get the quote down,
then I paraphrase. And I think that's a very legitimate
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ethical way to include information that you don't have verbatim.
What you're saying to the reader is this is the
general overview of what they said, but I'm not pretending
that I have it word by word.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Oh this is great, y'all, Sophia. I think we have
time for one more question for Susan.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
I noticed that you are going to be or you
have written books Odd Animals, and then you've also written
books on people. Do you prefer writing about animals or
do you prefer writing about people?
Speaker 8 (25:26):
Ooh, that's a tough one. None of my stories about
animals are really exclusively about animals. They really are about
our interactions with animals. They are a perfect way to
examine the human condition. I always think about writing about
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animals is a little like what it might be like
if Martians arrived on Earth and they didn't speak our language,
And you know, we would be deeply interested in trying
to write about them, but we would never have language
as a way to learn about them. So we have
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to learn about them using all of these other capacities
for empathy and understanding. And that is a lot of
what makes writing about animals so challenging but also really
wonderfully rewarding.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Well that's all the time we have. Thank you, Sophia
and Susan.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
Bye, Susan, this was such a wonderful opportunity.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Sophia, I love talking to you.
Speaker 8 (26:33):
Thank you so much, and I hope we'll be in touch.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Oh, how awesome was that interview. Sophia had such amazing
questions and really excellent insight, and Susan orlean while I
could listen to her talk about anything. In fact, I
think I might go read one of her books. Ah,
I'm doing it. I'm adding back to the library. Listeners.
Thanks for joining in today and for going on a
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journey with me to learn about the great Ida Tarbo.
And a huge thanks to today's guests Susan, Sophia, Carly
and Mosiah. Remember, parents and teachers. You can download a
free activity related to today's episode by visiting story pirates
dot com slash Historical Records. We'll be back next week
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with another episode, another song, and another hero. After all,
Sue's gotta make more historical records and soil. Then remember,
to make history, you gotta make some noise. Bye.
Speaker 9 (27:41):
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Benjamin Salga. Executive produced for I Hard Podcasts by Noel Brown.
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Producers for story Pirate Studios are Isabelle Aricchio, Sam Bear,
Eric Gerson, Andrew Miller, Lee Overtree, Peter McNerney and Niminy Ware.
Producers for two one five are Sean g Britney Benjamin,
and Sarah Zolman, hosted by niminy Ware. Our head writer
is Duke Doyle. Our historians are Gabe Pacheco and Lee Polus.
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Music supervision for two one five by Stroe Elliott. Scoring
and music supervision for Story Pirate Studios by Eric Gerson.
Sound design and mixing by Sam Bear at the Relic
Room in New York City. Song mastering by Josh Han,
Theme song by Dan Foster and Eric Gerson and produced
by Eric Erson. Production coordination by Isabelle Arichio production management
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by Maggie Lee. The line producer for Story Pired Studios
is Glennis Brault. Pr for Story Pired Studios is provided
by Naomi Shaw. Episode artwork by Camilla Franklin. This episode
was written by Duke Doyle. The song Ida Tarbell was
written by Dan Foster and produced by Mosiah with additional
production by Eric Gerson. Vocal direction by Jack Mitchell and
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Eric Gerson. Special guest Susan Orlean, Mosiah, Carly Shiraki and
Our Kid interviewer Sophia. This episode features performances by Eric Gerson,
Peter McNerney, Lee Overtree, and Lee Polis,
Hey listeners, Niminy here, host of historical records. Get ready
to hear about a historical hero through hip hop. Also,
parents and teachers, You can download a free activity related
to today's episode by visiting story pirates dot com. Slash
Historical records, and now onto the show. After a few
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words for the grown ups, Hey listeners, niminy here. I'm sorry,
I'm just running a little late the whole time, and
we should be there any second. Where is it? Oh,
(00:44):
I know it's here, somewhere in this huge and uninviting desert.
Oh wait, there's a normal cactus. Hor the normal cactus.
We're here, my mostly underground, top secretory. I mean, nothing
to say here in this big empty desert. Certainly not
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a highly secure state of the art.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Door. Hello, hello, door, Please pass word?
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Yes the password that I definitely remember. Don't worry everybody.
I know the password.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
It's bucklover incorrect.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Okay, bag it incorrect. Well, I know it's something delicious
that starts with the letter B. How about BONDI but
joy blenched black words with breest beets on buttered banana? Correct?
Got it? Wait which one was it?
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Entry?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Granted? Well figure it out next time. It's historical.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
You are now listening to It's.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
To make history. You got to have struggles to make history.
You got to show poise. Cannot be quiet loud as
the riot to make history. You gotta make some noise. Well, listeners,
we're in. Let's try this again. Hello. I am Mimony.
Welcome to my secret laboratory, a place where I am
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conducting highly experimental experiments turning history into hip hop. You see,
I study historical records so I can drop historical records
and get it. And today's episode is about an incredible
woman who is the mother of investigative journalism and a
trailblazing muckraker who toppled monopolies, Ida Tarbell. Much more on
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that later, but first I want to give you a
tour of my lab. This place has every single history
and hip hop loving podcast host could possible. Oh like
this room. This is the vocal booth echo chamber, in
case you're making music and want to say something really important.
(03:11):
What limony is cool? Cool? All echo boots. The echo
booth is also great for personal affirmations. And over here
in this room is where I keep all the musical notes.
(03:31):
Little to organize at the moment, but sometimes you can find.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
You need.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Nice. Well, let's keep walking. I'll clean that up later.
Excuse me. Oh, this next room is where my hypeman
hangs out. Just wait till you see how fired up
this guy is. Now people say what. I'm sorry, You're
hired to hype people up, not to be asleep. Sorry,
(04:03):
you're better than this, Phil, you know what.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
My bad, My bad?
Speaker 1 (04:08):
That was foods bad. Now we're talking ficky bye. Okay,
continuing the tour. This state of the art studio filled
with raccoons playing drums is where I make the beats. Well,
it's where the raccoons make the beats. How are the
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beats coming, tina?
Speaker 5 (04:33):
Ooh that's not good.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
You think we'll still hit the deadline? Betina, I need
a sick be in like fifteen minutes. I have some
amazing rappers and singers coming to lay down the track.
Get it done, sorry, listeners. If there's one thing raccoons
do not like, it's deadlines. Anyway, We're about to enter
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the history portion of the tour, and things are going
to get a little personal because the first room contains
my personal history. See here are my baby clothes, my
old baseball uniforms. Oh the picture of me starring in himlin. Oh, Niminy,
look at you being design own self?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
True way.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
What is this? It's a tape labeled Niminy's first rap ever. Oh,
let's listen. Hello everyone, let me introduce me. My name
means charming. I have Nimmini. I like hip hop as
you can play in the least seat, but my favorite
subject is his covery. What my first rap was about
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history and hip hop. I guess it's always been my
destiny to combine my two great passions in to one
killer podcast. Okay, listeners, I normally would not recommend running
from your past, but we're short on time, so let's
keep moving now. I don't want to overhype it, but
this next room is incredible because it contains every history
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book that has ever been written. It's like the Internet,
but maser. This is a historical records library. As you
can see, it's giant. But don't worry. You can get
to any book using this incredibly fast and elaborate train
track and trolley's system that I built. Watch, hold on tight,
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what and what first? Over here we have cultural history,
and over there that's the history of medicine. And up
in those bleachers we got sports history. And somewhere around
here is histories mysteries, not sure where exactly. Oh, and
down in that cave is early human history, and where
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up at the top is the history of space exploration.
And that's just a taste of what the library has
to offer. It's pretty amazing, I know. And making it
even cooler is the fact that I hire two historians
who now live here in the library. They help break
down the history so I can't break down the history,
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although sometimes the historians can be a little hard to
find because the library.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Is so huge.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Hi, Nimini, how long.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Have you been sitting in this trolley car?
Speaker 2 (07:22):
The entire time? I just didn't want to interrupt you
because you're really on a roll.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Well, even though I prefer you never sneak up on
me like that, I must admit your timing is impeccable.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Let me guess you're ready to learn about Aida Tarbell?
How did you know? As always, I did my research.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Wellie, if I'm gonna make a killer track that encapsulates
Ida Tarbell's whole life, no big deal at all. What
do we need to know about Ida Tarbell?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Well, Nimini, There is a lot to know about Aida Tarbell,
but the main, most important thing is that she was
a writer and a journalist who basically invented investigative journalism
in the United States. Okay, now.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Hold on, wait, what what's happening.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
I'm taking you to the other side of the library,
to the history simulator.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Gotcha. Now, obviously I know what investigative journalism is. But
for those who don't, what is investigative journalism? Okay?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Okay, So investigative journalism is when a journalist chooses a
topic which is usually something sort of scandalous, like a
serious crime, or political corruption or shady business deals, right,
exposing corruption?
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Simple.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Oh, and they spend months or sometimes even years, doing
all sorts of research in order to find facts that
can expose the truth. And the reason they're doing all
of this is because they want to create change. Oh excellent,
we're here.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Whoa, this is the history simulator. It looks like a
glowing alien cocoon. You built this yourself, Lee, of course not.
I'm a historian, not a scientist.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I had the raccoons to it, Lea.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
That's why they're running behind on making the beats, and
why so much of this machine seems to be made
of garbage.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah, try not to breathe through your nose, but trust me,
this is gonna be worth it. Can you hit that
big red.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Button, the one that says time travel with two exclamation points,
that's the one I would love to Here we go?
What welcome to?
Speaker 2 (09:34):
This is a gilded age, specifically the year nineteen oh four.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Whose house are we in?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Are a tarbells?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Of course?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Have a seat?
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Wow, these old timey armchairs are comfortable. Why are all
those magazines on the coffee table ripped up?
Speaker 2 (09:52):
That is this month's issue of McClure's magazine. It's supposed
to be a reliable source of news, but newsflash, it's not.
It's totally exaggerated, sensationalized, and made to be as melodramatic
as possible just to sell newspapers.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
That doesn't seem good, that's because it's not.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
But that is about to change. This new group of journalists,
these muckrakers as they call them, led by Aida Tarbell,
are using the power of the pen to tell the truth.
And tonight, right here Ada will put the finishing touches
on the final installment of her nineteen part epic series
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that exposes the corruption and unethical practices behind one of
the largest and most powerful businesses of our time, the
Standard Oil company.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Ida Tarbell is going up against Standard Oil? Why was
she doing that? Like? What was their deal? Who ran
Standard Oil? And why were they so bad?
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Great questions, Let's go check it out. Hit the button.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Oh I love buttons. Wow, this is a fancy office.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
You bet it is. Welcome to Standard Oil. A company
that became a monopoly. Have you heard that word before? Yes?
Oh I love that game. No, No, not the game.
A company has a monopoly when they pretty much wipe
out all their competition in whatever it is they're selling, and.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
That's bad.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Well, it's good for them, but bad for everyone else
for a lot of reasons. Like what Well, for example,
a company with no competitors can charge people whatever price
they want. And with that kind of power, how much
do you think they're going to charge? A whole lot?
Speaker 1 (11:40):
That's what I would do.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Well, if you did that, you might end up like
John D. Rockefeller, the owner of this office, the person
who ran Standard Oil and by far the richest American
to ever live. Hmm.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Rich fill their pockets while the poor getting filled with
rage last, living life.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Day to day in the Gilded Age precisely.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Okay, so we've got Ida Tarbo, this normal woman who
just invented investigative journalism on one side of the coin,
and on the other side, we've got this rich billionaire,
John D. Rockefeller, the owner of Standard Oil. How the
heck is Ida Tarbell gonna take down such a huge tycoon?
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Let's go see.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Ooh, does that mean I can press the button again?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Go for it?
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Button time? Whoa Montagh alert? Look at Ida traveling all
around the country. What's she doing? Research?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
She spent years traveling around the country interviewing anyone who
would talk to her.
Speaker 6 (12:38):
Excuse me, ma'am, I'm Ida Tarbelle with McClure's magazine.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
I wonder if I might ask you some questions.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
And she spent hours and hours in my favorite place,
the library, digging through hundreds and even thousands of documents
in order to find evidence of John D. Rockefeller's wrongdoing him.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
The library is closing, Tarbell.
Speaker 6 (13:01):
Sorry, I just need to finish reading this one document, huh.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
I see, Ida as a writer was tenacious, audacious. Her
appetite for research was voracious. Let's face it.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Then, All of her writing was published in McClure's magazine.
The articles were so popular that they were turned into
an even more popular book. All this attention on Rockefeller's
greedy business dealings made it all the way to wait
for it, the Supreme Court of the United States, only
the highest core in the whole land.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
And what did they decide?
Speaker 2 (13:34):
They found that Standard Oil was in fact an illegal monopoly. Yes,
I did, and they ordered that Standard Oil be broken
up into get this, thirty four different companies.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Wow, Rockefeller got busted.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
You sure did. In fact, trust busting is what everyone called,
breaking up greedy companies like Standard Oil and that end
of our history simulation.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Whow wow.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
I'm inspired.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Lee. With a clear objective and a belief in yourself,
you can really accomplish anything you want to do. Huh.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
I think you phrased that really beautifully. In fact, can
I share one of my favorite things that Ada Tarbell
ever said?
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Please do?
Speaker 2 (14:22):
She said, imagination is the only key to the future.
Without it, none exists. With it, all things are possible.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Oh that is beautiful. Thank you so much, Lee for
all this information. And now please excuse me, I have
to take all this incredible historical knowledge and turn it
into an incredible historical record. I'm pretty sure I have
a few amazing musicians waiting for me in the studio. Also,
I gotta check in on the raccoons. Back into the trolley. Wait, lemany,
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you didn't take any note? Are you sure you don't
remember all day? There's only one way to find out. Okay, listeners,
it is finally time for our first experiment. Let's turn
this piece of history into an epic show stopping song
for these ages. And here we are. Hello, Recon, Hey Dina,
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you got that beat ready. I knew you'll pull it off.
I look, today's guest vocalists, Mosiah and Carly Shiraki are
already in the booth. Seems like we are ready to
make a historical record. Let's see what we got hit it.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
This is the story of me, I T. Tarbelle and
me John D.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Rockefeller and me a narrator.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Let's begin. Shall we open your mind and imagine the
time we're in the quality Italian poverty on the ride,
witches holded by a small corn group.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Monopoly not on the game.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Board, they be up inside the boardroom, and the newspapers
supposed to be mad are only interested in profit in
the news an ad breech field of pocket while the
poor gaden filled with raids.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
That's living life day to day in the guilded age.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Sure another century nineteen oh one, the USA is of
power but in trouble. In the long run journalism yella
and the wealth control by fellas. Just like John D.
Rockefeller man, the people need a truth teller, someone Feller,
an extra special writer with the quality is a truth
and perseverance up inside the A fighter for the week
two the stronger than Kobita.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
Last name Tarbell, first name Ida, lifting up the league.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Like a park.
Speaker 7 (16:40):
And suring off an indelism time where breaking all the puck.
She's a journalistic marvel, the making sure.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
I always stay impartial.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
When I was a youth, my dad was part of
the crew of small oil well producers using rail to
move crew fod until a dud named Rockefeler came through
and pulled a coup, made.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
A truce with the trains and soon the crowd and
it was screwed. Oh.
Speaker 6 (17:06):
I was mad, but had no way to make come up,
and was just a young girl in the lower class.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
I was mailing upper crust he had to take the punches,
wait with made the bread and other.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
Trusts stunny hard, and did my time till I could throw.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
My upper listen.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Meanwhile, meet John d ib came a true tighten up
the industry.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Some called the Robbert Baron because he swindled to a
mass fun.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Most were taken in by my big fortune and my charities.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Yes, my foils sounded standard oil.
Speaker 6 (17:31):
And soon he had more money than the royals, while
I toil in Paris pending her pieces to noble claim
if this quickerly, anybody out there even knew the name.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Printing, not the meat like a prime, it's sure enough.
Speaker 7 (17:49):
Ronandra sism far where, breaking all the mud. She's a
journalistic marvel.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Making sure I always stay impartial.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Aida as a writer was adacious, half the type for
research respirations, facing only a matter of time before she
set her best investigative skills on the man from her past.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
John Rockefeller, who do my dad back in the day,
became the subject of my magazines.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Next expo, we got ourselves a showdown. Now you could
call it high new writer with the grubs, the big
budget Tihu.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Night is on the case, learning anything she can learn documents, photographs.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
I've even talked to inter the biggest breaker.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Ride when she interviewed John number two.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Told me everything we talked to Henry.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Oh, that's bad news.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
The series came in nineteen parts of Standard Oil's history, Backroom.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Deal's corruption, fraud. It finally solved the mystery.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Of how Dundee to frauded Dad.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
I got revenge from my high line and taught the
world the name of the woman on the byeline.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Bringing out the league like a bar.
Speaker 7 (18:56):
It's suing off nine systems are well, breaking all the musks.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
She's a journalistic marvel.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
But making sure I always stay impartial.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Results wasn't led to justice.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
The laws got more robust than the sherman neck I
passed down and busted all the trust up.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
People's trusting journalists adjusted, and the huckster Rockefeller lost his luster, britting.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Nothing meat like a park.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Taking down the pluocratic cartel.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
No fear, breaking all the MUCKs.
Speaker 7 (19:37):
She's a journalistic marvel.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
I guess I wasn't always so impartial.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Yeah, yeah, she really, she really was not that impartial
at all. Yeah, I'm the narrator. I'm saying that she
was not impartial.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah, she really did.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
She really didn't take you down.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Can we agree you had it coming?
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Though?
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Eh?
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Yeah, I was corrupted. I didn't correct thing it coming.
I should be in jail forever. Yeah. No, of course
I I'm with one hundred percent agree with you. I
had it coming. We'll be right back after a few
words for the grown ups. Yes, what a jam, Tina,
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you pulled it off. And Phil the hype Man, I
know you didn't do anything on that song, but I
could feel your positive energy.
Speaker 7 (20:35):
I am super supportive, supportive, supportive.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Oh my alarm.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Oh that means I'm late for today's interview.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
You're gonna interview me, Phil the hype Man?
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Oh no, Phil, am I interviewing you?
Speaker 5 (20:52):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Misunderstanding? Hanging in? No, no, no, Tina, I am not
interviewing you. In fact, I'm not interviewing anyone. I just
get to listen in. Well, well, what, please explain yourself? Well, obviously,
Ida Tarbell is amazing, but I thought it would be
really cool for a kid to talk to a trailblazing
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writer of today. Thanks Tina the Raccoon. I thought it
was a good idea too, So a twelve year old
from Denver named Sophia is going to be interviewing the
amazing writing legend Susan Orlean. Susan is a staff writer
for The New Yorker and the author of books like
The Orchid Thief and On Animals. That's dope, I know.
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And to make it even cooler, I am going to
use never before seen technology to get to the interview.
Watch this.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Uh it looks like you're just logging into zoom.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Phil make it hi or something. Come on, Oh right, sorry,
she's using the Internet like a wizard.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Who look at that?
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Everyone is here. Hi, Sophia, Hi Susan. Why don't we
start with you both introducing yourselves. Hi.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
I'm Sophia. I'm twelve years old. I love Denver, Colorado.
I you she her pronouns, and I am very into writing.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I'm Susan Orlean.
Speaker 8 (22:13):
I'm a staff writer at the New Yorker magazine, and
I'm the author of eight books. I've been writing ever
since I could lift a pen, and I love it
just as much now as I did many many years
ago when I began, Susan.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
What do you find interesting about Ida Tarbell?
Speaker 8 (22:37):
One of the things that I found really interesting about Ida,
besides the fact that she was pioneering as a woman
was her interest in science. It was that she brought
the rigor of scientific analysis to journalism. This was a
time when journalism was really finding its way and it
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wasn't necessarily guided by rational rules in any way, and
proof and conjectures and supporting hypotheses are really all very
central to what we think of today is journalism.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
But she was pretty pioneering. I thought that was really cool.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
But Sophia, it seems like Ida, despite being an important pioneer,
isn't that well.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
Known, even though she was probably one of the founding
people of investigative journalism. I could walk up to like
one of my friends, for example, and then go and
ask them, Oh, yeah, have you ever heard of Ida
tar Bell? And they'd probably be like.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Who, Sophia. Do you have any questions for Susan about
her writing or her career.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
One of the things that I've noticed is whenever you're
talking with someone, your quotes are just so specific and
you seem to have it all like you're actually there.
But I was really wondering, like, how are you able
to get all of these quotes in? What does it
look like when you're writing an article or a book.
Do you have like specific notebook that you use or
is some of this coming from memory? What does that
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process look like?
Speaker 8 (24:11):
I like using a notebook, and there's a very particular
kind of notebook that I love, and it's called a
reporter's notebook. It's long and skinny, and it was designed
and interesting that we're speaking about a woman journalist. It
was designed for male journalists to be able to keep
in their back pocket because at that time, of course,
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women didn't wear pants with pockets. Now. I rely a
lot on my memory, for sure, but I don't trust
my memory for quotes. So quotes I need to write down.
But if I am not able to get the quote down,
then I paraphrase. And I think that's a very legitimate
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ethical way to include information that you don't have verbatim.
What you're saying to the reader is this is the
general overview of what they said, but I'm not pretending
that I have it word by word.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Oh this is great, y'all, Sophia. I think we have
time for one more question for Susan.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
I noticed that you are going to be or you
have written books Odd Animals, and then you've also written
books on people. Do you prefer writing about animals or
do you prefer writing about people?
Speaker 8 (25:26):
Ooh, that's a tough one. None of my stories about
animals are really exclusively about animals. They really are about
our interactions with animals. They are a perfect way to
examine the human condition. I always think about writing about
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animals is a little like what it might be like
if Martians arrived on Earth and they didn't speak our language,
And you know, we would be deeply interested in trying
to write about them, but we would never have language
as a way to learn about them. So we have
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to learn about them using all of these other capacities
for empathy and understanding. And that is a lot of
what makes writing about animals so challenging but also really
wonderfully rewarding.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Well that's all the time we have. Thank you, Sophia
and Susan.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
Bye, Susan, this was such a wonderful opportunity.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Sophia, I love talking to you.
Speaker 8 (26:33):
Thank you so much, and I hope we'll be in touch.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Oh, how awesome was that interview. Sophia had such amazing
questions and really excellent insight, and Susan orlean while I
could listen to her talk about anything. In fact, I
think I might go read one of her books. Ah,
I'm doing it. I'm adding back to the library. Listeners.
Thanks for joining in today and for going on a
(26:59):
journey with me to learn about the great Ida Tarbo.
And a huge thanks to today's guests Susan, Sophia, Carly
and Mosiah. Remember, parents and teachers. You can download a
free activity related to today's episode by visiting story pirates
dot com slash Historical Records. We'll be back next week
(27:20):
with another episode, another song, and another hero. After all,
Sue's gotta make more historical records and soil. Then remember,
to make history, you gotta make some noise. Bye.
Speaker 9 (27:41):
Historical Record is produced in partnership with story Pirates Studios,
Questlove's two on five Entertainment, John Glickman and iHeart Podcasts.
Executive produced by Emir Questlove, Thompson, John Glickman, Leovertree and
Benjamin Salga. Executive produced for I Hard Podcasts by Noel Brown.
(28:02):
Producers for story Pirate Studios are Isabelle Aricchio, Sam Bear,
Eric Gerson, Andrew Miller, Lee Overtree, Peter McNerney and Niminy Ware.
Producers for two one five are Sean g Britney Benjamin,
and Sarah Zolman, hosted by niminy Ware. Our head writer
is Duke Doyle. Our historians are Gabe Pacheco and Lee Polus.
(28:24):
Music supervision for two one five by Stroe Elliott. Scoring
and music supervision for Story Pirate Studios by Eric Gerson.
Sound design and mixing by Sam Bear at the Relic
Room in New York City. Song mastering by Josh Han,
Theme song by Dan Foster and Eric Gerson and produced
by Eric Erson. Production coordination by Isabelle Arichio production management
(28:46):
by Maggie Lee. The line producer for Story Pired Studios
is Glennis Brault. Pr for Story Pired Studios is provided
by Naomi Shaw. Episode artwork by Camilla Franklin. This episode
was written by Duke Doyle. The song Ida Tarbell was
written by Dan Foster and produced by Mosiah with additional
production by Eric Gerson. Vocal direction by Jack Mitchell and
(29:08):
Eric Gerson. Special guest Susan Orlean, Mosiah, Carly Shiraki and
Our Kid interviewer Sophia. This episode features performances by Eric Gerson,
Peter McNerney, Lee Overtree, and Lee Polis,
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