February 7, 2025 • 29 mins
Season Finale. Nimene makes a brand new hip-hop track with special guest Anna Suzuki about Mitsuye Endo, a Japanese American who took her fight against racism all the way to the Supreme Court, helping to bring about the end of Japanese American internment during World War II.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Welcome back to Historical Records, the show where we dig
into the historical records in order to produce historically themed records.
I'm your resident historian, Lee, and normally Nimini would do
this intro. But well, I came upstairs and found her
huddled in the corner on the phone, muttering to herself
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and hate Niminy.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Must stay on the line.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
Hmm, she can't hear me. Today's episode is about the
heroic actions of Mitsie Endo. But first I need to
get Nimini's attention. I haven't tried yelling at her yet,
so I'll do that now.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Hey, nemone, I'm on phone. We have a show to do.
I know, I know, it's just I've been trying to
reach customer support. We got a notice from the Secret
Laboratory Owners Association that said we need to prove we
live here by the end of the day or they'll
shut off our bug spray woo.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
But the sandflies are getting bold enough as it is.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
That got sand flies.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
They're getting bigger too. Wait, what does proving we live
here even mean?
Speaker 1 (03:27):
I don't know. I'm trying to find out. But they
put me on hold all morning.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
And you're using a landline phone, so it's attached to
the wall.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Huh. Yeah, I can't move very far.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
It looks like the phone cord is stretchy though. You
might not be able to get all the way to
the library. But there's still another way to connect to
the history simulator.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Follow me, all right, I'll stretch the cord as much
as I can. Okay, who's today's episode about Midsaya Endo?
Speaker 5 (03:58):
She was one of around one hundred twenty thousand Japanese
Americans who were detained in the US internment camps.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Internment camp? What's that?
Speaker 5 (04:08):
In this case? It's a prison camp that holds prisoners
of war.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Well, that doesn't sound like a nice place to be.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
It's not, but Mitsi as Supreme Court case paved the
way for those camps getting shut down.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Wow, I'm kind of embarrassed to say, but I didn't
know anything about all that.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Honestly, Nimini, not a lot of people do. She didn't
get a ton of attention, and she didn't ask for it.
Not even her kids knew what she'd done until they
were adults. Hold on this.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Way, what is this an office? How did I not
know about this place?
Speaker 5 (04:45):
It's the historical records backstage area.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
We're not really.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Supposed to use it on the show, but it's the
only way the phone court will reach.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Wait, are these exhausted looking people in ill fitting loungewear
are the right of this show? They're writing everything we're
saying right now. I can see it happening as I'm saying, Nimini.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
No, don't get too close to them. They'll just try
to give you their lunch orders. I am starving.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Run niminie run run. The phone core doesn't have much
more kids through here. Whoa ree? This room's covered in
telephone wires and plugs and knots and stuff. What is
this some sort of old timy nineteen forty switchboard.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
That's exactly what it is. Welcome to the History simulator switchboard.
This will let us use the history simulator while staying
on hold.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
So we just plug this wire into the phone and
then plug the other end into one of these.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
They're called phone holes.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
I think I don't spend a lot of time in
here either way.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Just plug the phone into one of the phone holes
and then switch to the other line. Then dial nine,
and then the year, and then the pound sign, and
we should be connected to the right time.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Probably. I'm starting to see why you preferred the goo
okay plug switch to nine two dial nine.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
Dial nineteen forty two one.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Nine four two pound the rules changing.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
It just takes a little fine tuning to build the
simulation this way, but we'll get there.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
This is an emergency broadcast. Japan has launched an attack
on Pearl Harbor. This marks the official entry of the
United States interer World War.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Two, President Roosevelt has an acted Executive Order nine zero
sixty six establishing the West Coast as a military zone
and allowing the government to relocate anyone deemed necessary.
Speaker 7 (06:45):
Recently established more relocation authority has begun the process of
relocating the Japanese into internment camps, even those with American citizenship.
As anti Japanese sentiment has risen sharply, some.
Speaker 8 (06:56):
Have questioned the legitimacy of these actions as a necessary war.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
What were all those broadcasts?
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Just some radio crosstalk. We'll probably pick up a lot
of that using the history simulator this way.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
I guess the extra context doesn't hurt. But are we
in the right place? This looks like a law office,
It sure is.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
Can't beat all that natural musty smell. That's the smell
of justice.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
What are we doing snooping around an empty lawyer's office?
Isn't this breaking and entering? Of course not.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
We didn't break anything. That face was broken when we
got here.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
What are we doing here?
Speaker 5 (07:36):
This is James Purcell's office in San Francisco. He wanted
to challenge the legitimacy of what the US government did
when they removed Japanese Americans from their homes and place
them in internment camps. So he wanted to find the
perfect subject to put together a test case.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
And I'm guessing that perfect subject was Mitsuie.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Indo Bingo, which means he's done a ton of research
on her already. Look at the notes on his desk.
They're all about her life.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
It says, Nise. What does that mean?
Speaker 5 (08:06):
Well, Ni means too and say is like life or
in this case generation, So nise our second generation immigrants,
meaning they were born here in the US.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Oh, okay, that makes sense. It says Mitsuye was born
and raised in Sacramento, California, twenty two years old. She's
never been to Japan, doesn't know Japanese, has a brother
currently serving in the military. Not Buddhist. What's that have
to do with anything? You know?
Speaker 5 (08:33):
How, those broadcasts we heard said that there was a
lot of suspicion towards Japanese people in general that actually
started before the attack on Pearl Harbor. They were being
closely monitored just for participating in local Japanese cultural associations
or for simply being Buddhist.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
So the attack on Pearl Harbor probably just accelerated that.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
After the attack, Japanese people who had nothing to do
with it were affected right away. Around three hundred to
five hundred State employees were harassed at work until they
were eventually laid off just for having Japanese heritage. That
included Endo, who worked at the Department of Employment.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
So Mitsuier was an American born Christian who worked for
the American government with the brother on active duty in
the American military. On paper, she sounds like the least
suspicious person in the world.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
That's exactly what James Purcell was banking on. He wanted
to present someone who even the most suspicious judge couldn't
possibly describe as disloyal to the United States. By using
the perfect model of an American citizen, he could show
that the government had illegally detained people without a shured
of proof that they were enemies of the US.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
So what happened next? He went to talk to her.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
Funnily enough, they never met in real life. They mostly
communicated through official correspondence, which is why it's up to
the two of us to deliver this letter to her.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Us. What happened to the mailman?
Speaker 5 (09:54):
The mailman smashed a vase right before we got here
and went on the run. So it's up to us
to finish the job.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Lee, I saw you smash the base.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
Whose side are you on here? Just dial the code
for tu Lee Lake and let's deliver this letter. Sure,
Uh so it's yeah, Dial nine nine and then put
in the area code. So five zero three.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Five zero three star one nine four to two star
one nine two.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
The Tuley Lake Relocation better posting over eighteen thousand residents,
all living in close quarters, complete with eight foot high
double fences, miles of barbed wire, and thousands of bombed guards.
You'll feel secure knowing you can't leave.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Have you built out your loyalty questionnaire? Simply answer yes,
Just thirty quick questions and you'll learn back our trust.
Prove that you're worthy of leaving the camps by pledging.
Speaker 8 (10:45):
Your willingness to renounce the Japanese effror and to serve
in our military abeus Corpus.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
It's a legal document protesting an unlawful entertainment.
Speaker 7 (10:54):
By requesting an appearance in front of.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
A court or judge.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
If you've been relocated.
Speaker 9 (10:58):
Against your will, just might be the right legal movement
for you.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
What was that propaganda ads.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Yeah, from the sound of it, this internment camp, the
loyalty questionnaires, they were blatant actions to limit the freedoms
of Japanese Americans that the government still tried to paint
the picture that they were doing it for the good
of the country.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
And that last one about habeas corpus, that's what we're
here to deliver to Endo, right.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Yeah, The case hinges on the fact that bringing her
and everyone else to the camps without a trial violated
their constitutional rights.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
This place really is intimidating. It's entirely Finston. There's barbed
wire as far as the eye can see. And they
weren't kidding about the armed guards. Are you sure we
can be in here? Look at our outfits.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
We're just as mailmen now, And as far as this
historical simulation goes, mail men are allowed to be anywhere.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
You take a lot of liberties with your simulations.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
Hey, hey, I don't tell you how to do your job,
even though I think your songs could stand to use
a little more tambourine.
Speaker 10 (12:03):
Excuse me, are you two mailmen lost?
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Are you mitsuier? Endo? I am?
Speaker 10 (12:08):
What can I do for you?
Speaker 5 (12:09):
Actually, we were sent here to deliver this letter to you.
Speaker 10 (12:12):
Oh, thank you.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Hmmm.
Speaker 10 (12:15):
If I'm understanding this correctly, mister Purcell is asking for
my help to sue the US government.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
We know it's a lot of responsibility, but I'll do
it really, simple as that.
Speaker 10 (12:26):
Simple as that we were all brought here without any
sort of trial. But by using me we can show
them that what they've done to us is wrong. If
this can help everyone else out, then there's no question
about it.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
I have to do it.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
We thought you'd say that. We'll let mister Purcell know
right away.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Thank you.
Speaker 10 (12:43):
I hope it's a quick process. Uh, please excuse me.
I have to get to the mess hall.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
It was nice to meet you. It was nice meeting
you too. She knows it won't be a quick process,
doesn't she.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Yeah, and not just because she used to be a
government employee. Her case will be delayed, dismissed, and worked around.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
You mean they're gonna try to get her to drop
the case yep.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
In this place to Lee Lake, it's gonna get worse.
The conditions are gonna reach the point where Endo wishes
that she could leave, and the War Relocation Authority starts
cutting deals that let people in midseas situation, relocate outside
of California. But if she leaves the state, the court
no longer has jurisdiction over her case and it'll be dropped.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
So she'll refuse the chance to get out of here.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
Because just like she said, she's gonna do the thing
that helps people, no matter how difficult it gets.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Let me guess they'll find a way to move her anyway.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Her case will be dismissed and they'll move her to Utah.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Oh my head hurts from all the legal systems, ugh logistics.
How'd our case ever make it to the Supreme Court?
Speaker 5 (13:51):
You mean because we never went back to relay her
message to Percell.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
It's a simulation.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
A different mailman went back to tell him, probably after
he apologized for smashing that priceless face with your fingerprints
all over it.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
My fingerprints, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
I planted your fingerprints on it so I wouldn't get blamed.
Is that a crime?
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Yes, But in my simulation, it's not.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
Forget the vase, you're the one fixating on it.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
I meant, how did her case make it to the
Supreme Court? After all that?
Speaker 5 (14:20):
James Purcell filed an appeal and made sure it got
elevated all the way there here, let me dial us
in nine nineteen forty four pound pound star number pad smash.
Speaker 6 (14:34):
In the case of Hirobayashi versus the United States, in
the case.
Speaker 8 (14:38):
Of Yusui versus the United States, in the case of
kormontsu versus the United States.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
The what were those other cases?
Speaker 5 (14:51):
They were the three other challenges to the internment camps
that made it to the Supreme Court, but they all failed.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
That doesn't sound good. I'm guessing we're at the Supreme Court, then,
what gave it away?
Speaker 5 (15:02):
The nine Supreme Court justices glaring at us, Yeah, that
was it.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Can we even be in here?
Speaker 11 (15:09):
You too, the mailman, You shouldn't be in here, your honor.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
We were in here to deliver a letter, but we
accidentally superglued our butts to the seats. Is it okay
if we just observe the rest of the proceedings while
we wait for someone to unbolt our seats from the
ground and carry us home.
Speaker 11 (15:24):
I don't know what to say to that, but we're
running short on time, so I'll allow it. Let's move
on to our final decision on mitsuye Endo versus the
United States. We are of the view that Mitsuye Endo
should be given her liberty. For we conclude that whatever
power the War Relocation Authority may have to detail other
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classes of citizens, it has no authority to subject citizens
who are concededly loyal to its leave procedure.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Wait. That means she won right she did.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
Out of the four cases elevated to the Supreme Court
surrounding the issues of Japanese internment, hers was the only
case that was ruled in favor of the plaintiff. After this,
President Roosevelt reversed the executive order and citizens were allowed
to go home.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
But a court ruling's not like waving a magic wand
is it. It doesn't just change back everything that went wrong.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
No, And unlike the super glue I put on our pants,
its effect isn't immediate. Endo stayed in the camp for
another five months to look after her parents, and after that, well,
it's not like the communities that most of these people
were kicked out of didn't suddenly stop being suspicious of
Japanese Americans. A lot of people didn't even have homes
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to return to.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
I can imagine I wouldn't go back to that. It
couldn't have been easy finding new housing or jobs. After
being ripped away and then kept away for all that.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Time, she actually never even went back to California. Eventually
she made her way to Chicago. She wanted to put
this whole thing behind her, like I'm sure a lot
of others did, including the US government in itself.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
What do you mean dial nine and then nineteen eighty eight? Wait,
nineteen eighty eight, as in forty years later? Mm hmm, okay,
huh a conference room, Hannah. Is that president of.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
The Screen Actors Guild Ronald Reagan? Yes, but in nineteen
eighty eight, Ronald Reagan was also the President of the
United States. Did you notice that the language in the
Supreme Court's ruling didn't mention racial discrimination.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Oh yeah, now that I think about it, It just
said that the government couldn't detain people who were decidedly loyal.
So was that how Indo could win her case while
the other cases were all struck down?
Speaker 5 (17:47):
Exactly? This press conference with former SAG president Reagan is
the first time that the US is officially apologizing to
the one hundred and twenty thousand Japanese Americans who were
wrongfully detained.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Yet we must recognize that the internment of Japanese Americans
was just that a mistake. For throughout the war, Japanese
Americans in the tens of thousands remained utterly loyal to
the United.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
States better late than ever, I guess.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
Remember the other three cases, Hirabayashi, Yasui, and Korematsu. Losing
those cases wasn't just a loss for Japanese Americans, but
also for those three individuals. They were technically considered convicts,
which is something that makes it pretty hard to find
a job. Even after this apology, it wouldn't be until
twenty eighteen that those three cases officially got overturned, clearing
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their names. Twenty eighteen, Yeah, forty more years. But for now,
let's get back to the lab. Switch back to line one.
Speaker 12 (18:49):
Lee.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I know that technically we saw Indo win her case,
but I.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
Know nineteen forty two all the way to twenty eighteen.
History is of regrettable decisions and mistakes of things that
still need to be acknowledged and corrected.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
But if things move that slowly, how are any of
us supposed to change anything?
Speaker 5 (19:11):
It does seem daunting and complicated and overwhelming. But the
things we actually do, our actions, those can be simple.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
How do you mean, Midsey.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
Endo didn't set out to change the world. She was
just offered a chance to do what was right. Someone
said to her, we need you to play a part.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Can you do that? And she said yes?
Speaker 5 (19:33):
And she said yes, She took a small, quiet action,
stayed determined, and that set everything else in motion. Winning
her case effectively led to the end of the internment
camps and made way for the reversals of the other
three cases decades later.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
It's like she said, if it helps other people, I'll
do it. Even if the system itself is imperfect, it's
people who ultimately make sure it works. And people will
make mistakes and correction and try their best to do
what's right, even if it takes a long time.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
Speaking of taking a long time, you got a song
for us?
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Or what you bet I do? All right, everyone, it's
time to celebrate smid City eight in those heroic actions
with this brand new trek.
Speaker 13 (20:33):
Well forty one, the Empire of the Thumb, we just
drag on the red, Light and blue. The back was
run by Japan. The outcome was the unenjoying World War two.
Speaker 9 (20:43):
How the rhys from the Score and the Theater War
are the subjects of media chung, but the song will
lookplore howard you as sure something deastardly happened that at
the time Japanese on the West end of America have
their loyalties question Franklin Elizabel did with this best fan
and declared to Congress and the Will that if you
descended from the land of the Yen, you were now
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an alien. Doesn't matter citizen order for our second gent
with the man, you're subject to the acts of sedition
laws with the terrible tradition.
Speaker 14 (21:14):
So the US Senate trips were on a mission to
round up the nisay and he say in prisons against
the will, and without any discernment, thus began the policy.
Speaker 13 (21:22):
That would not call internment, they said the.
Speaker 7 (21:27):
Free.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
But then they humans their humanity.
Speaker 13 (21:34):
So I asked, how can you in a fight when
you've lost that wage made you?
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Internment convinces. The camps are intense.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
It's a test to.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Be ripped from your home.
Speaker 14 (21:50):
Go mark while your fences and armguard defenses, who shoot
you if you try to go? When pressures oppressed them,
some folks get invented. They look for that opposite force.
You know they won't be pensive. They're on the offensive,
and they saw recourse.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
In the courts.
Speaker 9 (22:05):
The Japanese American Citizens League, not the American in their
citizen may wanted to challenge Roosevelt politically, and we're sitting
that a journey again judge will agree. So three men
Gordon Hurraba Yashi, Fred Koremata Minova, Yes Sube had a
law degree. They bought possibly that they could stop this
atrocity with honesty. But they got popped in the job
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by hypocrisy, lost their steam drop to one, not for
three and the back up where they didn't wanna be.
Speaker 12 (22:33):
In turn, in turn interminably in halls of Atlanta free
there are simplies striving for their humanity.
Speaker 13 (22:46):
But I ask, how can you preserve a fight when
you're down?
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Even so World War two rages, conflict of the ages.
Speaker 9 (22:59):
The people in turn still strive to bring from their
cages and start on you pages. But that dream is
barely alive for sell their esquires, getting real tired of
looking for our cases that can go until he's inspired
by someone who's fired and her name to an Endo.
Endo born in Secramento, was employed by the State Board,
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but then was swiftly let go after the bob uptexts,
which director may count her acts the spirit of the
most US Manifesto. They her case the court on a
Habeus write, but the judge in a thing that her
case was legit, but the US government knew something else
about it. So they offer reread them just for only her,
and she said no way.
Speaker 14 (23:38):
More years locked in the fort, waiting until she reached
the Supreme Court debate.
Speaker 12 (23:42):
This is the price they make you pay for freedom.
Speaker 9 (23:45):
Makes it taste even's reader when you really.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Beat one point Humana sto.
Speaker 13 (24:01):
He's fine protecting all human rights Disney only thing.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
That's what.
Speaker 12 (24:12):
She wandered.
Speaker 9 (24:18):
Me too.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
She made him, made.
Speaker 13 (24:26):
Him one good day free when they try to take
our human even this, he'shi protecting all human rights, Disney
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only thing.
Speaker 12 (24:47):
Last night.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
We'll be right back after a few words for the
grown ups. All right, what a great song. It's a
lot better than the hold music.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
You're still on hold?
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Yes, that's why I've been holding the phone against my
ear the whole time.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
Oh, I thought you just forgot how to put things down.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
That makes more sense, though. I'm okay with this though.
If I've learned anything from today. It's that even small,
simple actions can bring about great change. I'm responsible for
this secret lab, and if the only thing I need
to do to prevent it from being swarmed by ever growing,
probably bloodthirsty sandflies is to stay on the line, then
(25:35):
I'll just have to stay on the line for as
long as it it's ringing, it's ringing. Oh, thank goodness,
I think I'm being connected.
Speaker 11 (25:43):
The following message may be recorded for quality assurance and purposes.
Speaker 8 (25:48):
Hello, you've reached customer service.
Speaker 11 (25:50):
To whom am I speaking, Niminy?
Speaker 8 (25:52):
Let me just pull up your account?
Speaker 11 (25:55):
Okay, I see you right here.
Speaker 9 (25:57):
How can I help you today?
Speaker 13 (25:58):
Niminy?
Speaker 1 (25:58):
I got a letter that said I need to prove
that I live in the secret Lab?
Speaker 11 (26:02):
Do you yes?
Speaker 8 (26:04):
Okay, let me just update that in the system.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Okay, Oh, look at that.
Speaker 8 (26:08):
It was already in there.
Speaker 7 (26:10):
Someone must have forgotten to relink the spreadsheet to the database.
Speaker 11 (26:14):
Guilty. I guess you didn't need to call in today
after all.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Great, so you won't shut off our bug spray.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Oh you're the lab with the sand flies.
Speaker 8 (26:23):
We've actually got a pool going on. How long you can.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Hold him off?
Speaker 3 (26:26):
But I can transfer you over to the bugs department
if you want to speak to that.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
No, no, no, no, no no, We're fine. Just keep
the bug spray on, no problem.
Speaker 8 (26:34):
I'm glad I was able to help you out today.
By the way, if you wouldn't mind taking a short
survey to rate your experience.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Whew, I'm glad that's finally over with. Listeners, what you
just heard was a mailman from the nineteen forties, rush
in here and smash my phone. He's out there somewhere.
But the important thing to note is that I neminy
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am not at fault. Okay, that's it for today's season finale, listeners, Rakat,
thank you enough for tuning in to this season of
Historical Records. Combining history and hip hop has always been
my dream, so thank you for being brave enough to
witness my experiment. I learned about so many extraordinary luminaries,
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and yet it's just the tip of the iceberg. There
are so many more. Maybe you can even find some
of your own and write a song about them, because remember,
to make history, you gotta make some noise. Nemony Out.
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The song mitsuya Endo was written by Dan Foster, produced
by Micah James and associate produced and vocal directed by
Eric Gerson. Special guest Anna Suzuki. This episode features performances
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by Chris Ferry, Caroline Lux, Peter McNerney, Lee Overtree, and
Lee Polos
Hey listeners, Niminy here, host of historical records. Get ready
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Welcome back to Historical Records, the show where we dig
into the historical records in order to produce historically themed records.
I'm your resident historian, Lee, and normally Nimini would do
this intro. But well, I came upstairs and found her
huddled in the corner on the phone, muttering to herself
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and hate Niminy.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Must stay on the line.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
Hmm, she can't hear me. Today's episode is about the
heroic actions of Mitsie Endo. But first I need to
get Nimini's attention. I haven't tried yelling at her yet,
so I'll do that now.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Hey, nemone, I'm on phone. We have a show to do.
I know, I know, it's just I've been trying to
reach customer support. We got a notice from the Secret
Laboratory Owners Association that said we need to prove we
live here by the end of the day or they'll
shut off our bug spray woo.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
But the sandflies are getting bold enough as it is.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
That got sand flies.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
They're getting bigger too. Wait, what does proving we live
here even mean?
Speaker 1 (03:27):
I don't know. I'm trying to find out. But they
put me on hold all morning.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
And you're using a landline phone, so it's attached to
the wall.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Huh. Yeah, I can't move very far.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
It looks like the phone cord is stretchy though. You
might not be able to get all the way to
the library. But there's still another way to connect to
the history simulator.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Follow me, all right, I'll stretch the cord as much
as I can. Okay, who's today's episode about Midsaya Endo?
Speaker 5 (03:58):
She was one of around one hundred twenty thousand Japanese
Americans who were detained in the US internment camps.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Internment camp? What's that?
Speaker 5 (04:08):
In this case? It's a prison camp that holds prisoners
of war.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Well, that doesn't sound like a nice place to be.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
It's not, but Mitsi as Supreme Court case paved the
way for those camps getting shut down.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Wow, I'm kind of embarrassed to say, but I didn't
know anything about all that.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Honestly, Nimini, not a lot of people do. She didn't
get a ton of attention, and she didn't ask for it.
Not even her kids knew what she'd done until they
were adults. Hold on this.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Way, what is this an office? How did I not
know about this place?
Speaker 5 (04:45):
It's the historical records backstage area.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
We're not really.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Supposed to use it on the show, but it's the
only way the phone court will reach.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Wait, are these exhausted looking people in ill fitting loungewear
are the right of this show? They're writing everything we're
saying right now. I can see it happening as I'm saying, Nimini.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
No, don't get too close to them. They'll just try
to give you their lunch orders. I am starving.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Run niminie run run. The phone core doesn't have much
more kids through here. Whoa ree? This room's covered in
telephone wires and plugs and knots and stuff. What is
this some sort of old timy nineteen forty switchboard.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
That's exactly what it is. Welcome to the History simulator switchboard.
This will let us use the history simulator while staying
on hold.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
So we just plug this wire into the phone and
then plug the other end into one of these.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
They're called phone holes.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
I think I don't spend a lot of time in
here either way.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Just plug the phone into one of the phone holes
and then switch to the other line. Then dial nine,
and then the year, and then the pound sign, and
we should be connected to the right time.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Probably. I'm starting to see why you preferred the goo
okay plug switch to nine two dial nine.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
Dial nineteen forty two one.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Nine four two pound the rules changing.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
It just takes a little fine tuning to build the
simulation this way, but we'll get there.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
This is an emergency broadcast. Japan has launched an attack
on Pearl Harbor. This marks the official entry of the
United States interer World War.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Two, President Roosevelt has an acted Executive Order nine zero
sixty six establishing the West Coast as a military zone
and allowing the government to relocate anyone deemed necessary.
Speaker 7 (06:45):
Recently established more relocation authority has begun the process of
relocating the Japanese into internment camps, even those with American citizenship.
As anti Japanese sentiment has risen sharply, some.
Speaker 8 (06:56):
Have questioned the legitimacy of these actions as a necessary war.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
What were all those broadcasts?
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Just some radio crosstalk. We'll probably pick up a lot
of that using the history simulator this way.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
I guess the extra context doesn't hurt. But are we
in the right place? This looks like a law office,
It sure is.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
Can't beat all that natural musty smell. That's the smell
of justice.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
What are we doing snooping around an empty lawyer's office?
Isn't this breaking and entering? Of course not.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
We didn't break anything. That face was broken when we
got here.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
What are we doing here?
Speaker 5 (07:36):
This is James Purcell's office in San Francisco. He wanted
to challenge the legitimacy of what the US government did
when they removed Japanese Americans from their homes and place
them in internment camps. So he wanted to find the
perfect subject to put together a test case.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
And I'm guessing that perfect subject was Mitsuie.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Indo Bingo, which means he's done a ton of research
on her already. Look at the notes on his desk.
They're all about her life.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
It says, Nise. What does that mean?
Speaker 5 (08:06):
Well, Ni means too and say is like life or
in this case generation, So nise our second generation immigrants,
meaning they were born here in the US.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Oh, okay, that makes sense. It says Mitsuye was born
and raised in Sacramento, California, twenty two years old. She's
never been to Japan, doesn't know Japanese, has a brother
currently serving in the military. Not Buddhist. What's that have
to do with anything? You know?
Speaker 5 (08:33):
How, those broadcasts we heard said that there was a
lot of suspicion towards Japanese people in general that actually
started before the attack on Pearl Harbor. They were being
closely monitored just for participating in local Japanese cultural associations
or for simply being Buddhist.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
So the attack on Pearl Harbor probably just accelerated that.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
After the attack, Japanese people who had nothing to do
with it were affected right away. Around three hundred to
five hundred State employees were harassed at work until they
were eventually laid off just for having Japanese heritage. That
included Endo, who worked at the Department of Employment.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
So Mitsuier was an American born Christian who worked for
the American government with the brother on active duty in
the American military. On paper, she sounds like the least
suspicious person in the world.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
That's exactly what James Purcell was banking on. He wanted
to present someone who even the most suspicious judge couldn't
possibly describe as disloyal to the United States. By using
the perfect model of an American citizen, he could show
that the government had illegally detained people without a shured
of proof that they were enemies of the US.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
So what happened next? He went to talk to her.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
Funnily enough, they never met in real life. They mostly
communicated through official correspondence, which is why it's up to
the two of us to deliver this letter to her.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Us. What happened to the mailman?
Speaker 5 (09:54):
The mailman smashed a vase right before we got here
and went on the run. So it's up to us
to finish the job.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Lee, I saw you smash the base.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
Whose side are you on here? Just dial the code
for tu Lee Lake and let's deliver this letter. Sure,
Uh so it's yeah, Dial nine nine and then put
in the area code. So five zero three.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Five zero three star one nine four to two star
one nine two.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
The Tuley Lake Relocation better posting over eighteen thousand residents,
all living in close quarters, complete with eight foot high
double fences, miles of barbed wire, and thousands of bombed guards.
You'll feel secure knowing you can't leave.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Have you built out your loyalty questionnaire? Simply answer yes,
Just thirty quick questions and you'll learn back our trust.
Prove that you're worthy of leaving the camps by pledging.
Speaker 8 (10:45):
Your willingness to renounce the Japanese effror and to serve
in our military abeus Corpus.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
It's a legal document protesting an unlawful entertainment.
Speaker 7 (10:54):
By requesting an appearance in front of.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
A court or judge.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
If you've been relocated.
Speaker 9 (10:58):
Against your will, just might be the right legal movement
for you.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
What was that propaganda ads.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Yeah, from the sound of it, this internment camp, the
loyalty questionnaires, they were blatant actions to limit the freedoms
of Japanese Americans that the government still tried to paint
the picture that they were doing it for the good
of the country.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
And that last one about habeas corpus, that's what we're
here to deliver to Endo, right.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Yeah, The case hinges on the fact that bringing her
and everyone else to the camps without a trial violated
their constitutional rights.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
This place really is intimidating. It's entirely Finston. There's barbed
wire as far as the eye can see. And they
weren't kidding about the armed guards. Are you sure we
can be in here? Look at our outfits.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
We're just as mailmen now, And as far as this
historical simulation goes, mail men are allowed to be anywhere.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
You take a lot of liberties with your simulations.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
Hey, hey, I don't tell you how to do your job,
even though I think your songs could stand to use
a little more tambourine.
Speaker 10 (12:03):
Excuse me, are you two mailmen lost?
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Are you mitsuier? Endo? I am?
Speaker 10 (12:08):
What can I do for you?
Speaker 5 (12:09):
Actually, we were sent here to deliver this letter to you.
Speaker 10 (12:12):
Oh, thank you.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Hmmm.
Speaker 10 (12:15):
If I'm understanding this correctly, mister Purcell is asking for
my help to sue the US government.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
We know it's a lot of responsibility, but I'll do
it really, simple as that.
Speaker 10 (12:26):
Simple as that we were all brought here without any
sort of trial. But by using me we can show
them that what they've done to us is wrong. If
this can help everyone else out, then there's no question
about it.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
I have to do it.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
We thought you'd say that. We'll let mister Purcell know
right away.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Thank you.
Speaker 10 (12:43):
I hope it's a quick process. Uh, please excuse me.
I have to get to the mess hall.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
It was nice to meet you. It was nice meeting
you too. She knows it won't be a quick process,
doesn't she.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Yeah, and not just because she used to be a
government employee. Her case will be delayed, dismissed, and worked around.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
You mean they're gonna try to get her to drop
the case yep.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
In this place to Lee Lake, it's gonna get worse.
The conditions are gonna reach the point where Endo wishes
that she could leave, and the War Relocation Authority starts
cutting deals that let people in midseas situation, relocate outside
of California. But if she leaves the state, the court
no longer has jurisdiction over her case and it'll be dropped.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
So she'll refuse the chance to get out of here.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
Because just like she said, she's gonna do the thing
that helps people, no matter how difficult it gets.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Let me guess they'll find a way to move her anyway.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Her case will be dismissed and they'll move her to Utah.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Oh my head hurts from all the legal systems, ugh logistics.
How'd our case ever make it to the Supreme Court?
Speaker 5 (13:51):
You mean because we never went back to relay her
message to Percell.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
It's a simulation.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
A different mailman went back to tell him, probably after
he apologized for smashing that priceless face with your fingerprints
all over it.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
My fingerprints, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
I planted your fingerprints on it so I wouldn't get blamed.
Is that a crime?
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Yes, But in my simulation, it's not.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
Forget the vase, you're the one fixating on it.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
I meant, how did her case make it to the
Supreme Court? After all that?
Speaker 5 (14:20):
James Purcell filed an appeal and made sure it got
elevated all the way there here, let me dial us
in nine nineteen forty four pound pound star number pad smash.
Speaker 6 (14:34):
In the case of Hirobayashi versus the United States, in
the case.
Speaker 8 (14:38):
Of Yusui versus the United States, in the case of
kormontsu versus the United States.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
The what were those other cases?
Speaker 5 (14:51):
They were the three other challenges to the internment camps
that made it to the Supreme Court, but they all failed.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
That doesn't sound good. I'm guessing we're at the Supreme Court, then,
what gave it away?
Speaker 5 (15:02):
The nine Supreme Court justices glaring at us, Yeah, that
was it.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Can we even be in here?
Speaker 11 (15:09):
You too, the mailman, You shouldn't be in here, your honor.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
We were in here to deliver a letter, but we
accidentally superglued our butts to the seats. Is it okay
if we just observe the rest of the proceedings while
we wait for someone to unbolt our seats from the
ground and carry us home.
Speaker 11 (15:24):
I don't know what to say to that, but we're
running short on time, so I'll allow it. Let's move
on to our final decision on mitsuye Endo versus the
United States. We are of the view that Mitsuye Endo
should be given her liberty. For we conclude that whatever
power the War Relocation Authority may have to detail other
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classes of citizens, it has no authority to subject citizens
who are concededly loyal to its leave procedure.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Wait. That means she won right she did.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
Out of the four cases elevated to the Supreme Court
surrounding the issues of Japanese internment, hers was the only
case that was ruled in favor of the plaintiff. After this,
President Roosevelt reversed the executive order and citizens were allowed
to go home.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
But a court ruling's not like waving a magic wand
is it. It doesn't just change back everything that went wrong.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
No, And unlike the super glue I put on our pants,
its effect isn't immediate. Endo stayed in the camp for
another five months to look after her parents, and after that, well,
it's not like the communities that most of these people
were kicked out of didn't suddenly stop being suspicious of
Japanese Americans. A lot of people didn't even have homes
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to return to.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
I can imagine I wouldn't go back to that. It
couldn't have been easy finding new housing or jobs. After
being ripped away and then kept away for all that.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Time, she actually never even went back to California. Eventually
she made her way to Chicago. She wanted to put
this whole thing behind her, like I'm sure a lot
of others did, including the US government in itself.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
What do you mean dial nine and then nineteen eighty eight? Wait,
nineteen eighty eight, as in forty years later? Mm hmm, okay,
huh a conference room, Hannah. Is that president of.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
The Screen Actors Guild Ronald Reagan? Yes, but in nineteen
eighty eight, Ronald Reagan was also the President of the
United States. Did you notice that the language in the
Supreme Court's ruling didn't mention racial discrimination.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Oh yeah, now that I think about it, It just
said that the government couldn't detain people who were decidedly loyal.
So was that how Indo could win her case while
the other cases were all struck down?
Speaker 5 (17:47):
Exactly? This press conference with former SAG president Reagan is
the first time that the US is officially apologizing to
the one hundred and twenty thousand Japanese Americans who were
wrongfully detained.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Yet we must recognize that the internment of Japanese Americans
was just that a mistake. For throughout the war, Japanese
Americans in the tens of thousands remained utterly loyal to
the United.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
States better late than ever, I guess.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
Remember the other three cases, Hirabayashi, Yasui, and Korematsu. Losing
those cases wasn't just a loss for Japanese Americans, but
also for those three individuals. They were technically considered convicts,
which is something that makes it pretty hard to find
a job. Even after this apology, it wouldn't be until
twenty eighteen that those three cases officially got overturned, clearing
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their names. Twenty eighteen, Yeah, forty more years. But for now,
let's get back to the lab. Switch back to line one.
Speaker 12 (18:49):
Lee.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I know that technically we saw Indo win her case,
but I.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
Know nineteen forty two all the way to twenty eighteen.
History is of regrettable decisions and mistakes of things that
still need to be acknowledged and corrected.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
But if things move that slowly, how are any of
us supposed to change anything?
Speaker 5 (19:11):
It does seem daunting and complicated and overwhelming. But the
things we actually do, our actions, those can be simple.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
How do you mean, Midsey.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
Endo didn't set out to change the world. She was
just offered a chance to do what was right. Someone
said to her, we need you to play a part.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Can you do that? And she said yes?
Speaker 5 (19:33):
And she said yes, She took a small, quiet action,
stayed determined, and that set everything else in motion. Winning
her case effectively led to the end of the internment
camps and made way for the reversals of the other
three cases decades later.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
It's like she said, if it helps other people, I'll
do it. Even if the system itself is imperfect, it's
people who ultimately make sure it works. And people will
make mistakes and correction and try their best to do
what's right, even if it takes a long time.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
Speaking of taking a long time, you got a song
for us?
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Or what you bet I do? All right, everyone, it's
time to celebrate smid City eight in those heroic actions
with this brand new trek.
Speaker 13 (20:33):
Well forty one, the Empire of the Thumb, we just
drag on the red, Light and blue. The back was
run by Japan. The outcome was the unenjoying World War two.
Speaker 9 (20:43):
How the rhys from the Score and the Theater War
are the subjects of media chung, but the song will
lookplore howard you as sure something deastardly happened that at
the time Japanese on the West end of America have
their loyalties question Franklin Elizabel did with this best fan
and declared to Congress and the Will that if you
descended from the land of the Yen, you were now
(21:05):
an alien. Doesn't matter citizen order for our second gent
with the man, you're subject to the acts of sedition
laws with the terrible tradition.
Speaker 14 (21:14):
So the US Senate trips were on a mission to
round up the nisay and he say in prisons against
the will, and without any discernment, thus began the policy.
Speaker 13 (21:22):
That would not call internment, they said the.
Speaker 7 (21:27):
Free.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
But then they humans their humanity.
Speaker 13 (21:34):
So I asked, how can you in a fight when
you've lost that wage made you?
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Internment convinces. The camps are intense.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
It's a test to.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Be ripped from your home.
Speaker 14 (21:50):
Go mark while your fences and armguard defenses, who shoot
you if you try to go? When pressures oppressed them,
some folks get invented. They look for that opposite force.
You know they won't be pensive. They're on the offensive,
and they saw recourse.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
In the courts.
Speaker 9 (22:05):
The Japanese American Citizens League, not the American in their
citizen may wanted to challenge Roosevelt politically, and we're sitting
that a journey again judge will agree. So three men
Gordon Hurraba Yashi, Fred Koremata Minova, Yes Sube had a
law degree. They bought possibly that they could stop this
atrocity with honesty. But they got popped in the job
(22:26):
by hypocrisy, lost their steam drop to one, not for
three and the back up where they didn't wanna be.
Speaker 12 (22:33):
In turn, in turn interminably in halls of Atlanta free
there are simplies striving for their humanity.
Speaker 13 (22:46):
But I ask, how can you preserve a fight when
you're down?
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Even so World War two rages, conflict of the ages.
Speaker 9 (22:59):
The people in turn still strive to bring from their
cages and start on you pages. But that dream is
barely alive for sell their esquires, getting real tired of
looking for our cases that can go until he's inspired
by someone who's fired and her name to an Endo.
Endo born in Secramento, was employed by the State Board,
(23:20):
but then was swiftly let go after the bob uptexts,
which director may count her acts the spirit of the
most US Manifesto. They her case the court on a
Habeus write, but the judge in a thing that her
case was legit, but the US government knew something else
about it. So they offer reread them just for only her,
and she said no way.
Speaker 14 (23:38):
More years locked in the fort, waiting until she reached
the Supreme Court debate.
Speaker 12 (23:42):
This is the price they make you pay for freedom.
Speaker 9 (23:45):
Makes it taste even's reader when you really.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Beat one point Humana sto.
Speaker 13 (24:01):
He's fine protecting all human rights Disney only thing.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
That's what.
Speaker 12 (24:12):
She wandered.
Speaker 9 (24:18):
Me too.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
She made him, made.
Speaker 13 (24:26):
Him one good day free when they try to take
our human even this, he'shi protecting all human rights, Disney
(24:47):
only thing.
Speaker 12 (24:47):
Last night.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
We'll be right back after a few words for the
grown ups. All right, what a great song. It's a
lot better than the hold music.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
You're still on hold?
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Yes, that's why I've been holding the phone against my
ear the whole time.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
Oh, I thought you just forgot how to put things down.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
That makes more sense, though. I'm okay with this though.
If I've learned anything from today. It's that even small,
simple actions can bring about great change. I'm responsible for
this secret lab, and if the only thing I need
to do to prevent it from being swarmed by ever growing,
probably bloodthirsty sandflies is to stay on the line, then
(25:35):
I'll just have to stay on the line for as
long as it it's ringing, it's ringing. Oh, thank goodness,
I think I'm being connected.
Speaker 11 (25:43):
The following message may be recorded for quality assurance and purposes.
Speaker 8 (25:48):
Hello, you've reached customer service.
Speaker 11 (25:50):
To whom am I speaking, Niminy?
Speaker 8 (25:52):
Let me just pull up your account?
Speaker 11 (25:55):
Okay, I see you right here.
Speaker 9 (25:57):
How can I help you today?
Speaker 13 (25:58):
Niminy?
Speaker 1 (25:58):
I got a letter that said I need to prove
that I live in the secret Lab?
Speaker 11 (26:02):
Do you yes?
Speaker 8 (26:04):
Okay, let me just update that in the system.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Okay, Oh, look at that.
Speaker 8 (26:08):
It was already in there.
Speaker 7 (26:10):
Someone must have forgotten to relink the spreadsheet to the database.
Speaker 11 (26:14):
Guilty. I guess you didn't need to call in today
after all.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Great, so you won't shut off our bug spray.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Oh you're the lab with the sand flies.
Speaker 8 (26:23):
We've actually got a pool going on. How long you can.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Hold him off?
Speaker 3 (26:26):
But I can transfer you over to the bugs department
if you want to speak to that.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
No, no, no, no, no no, We're fine. Just keep
the bug spray on, no problem.
Speaker 8 (26:34):
I'm glad I was able to help you out today.
By the way, if you wouldn't mind taking a short
survey to rate your experience.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Whew, I'm glad that's finally over with. Listeners, what you
just heard was a mailman from the nineteen forties, rush
in here and smash my phone. He's out there somewhere.
But the important thing to note is that I neminy
(27:01):
am not at fault. Okay, that's it for today's season finale, listeners, Rakat,
thank you enough for tuning in to this season of
Historical Records. Combining history and hip hop has always been
my dream, so thank you for being brave enough to
witness my experiment. I learned about so many extraordinary luminaries,
(27:22):
and yet it's just the tip of the iceberg. There
are so many more. Maybe you can even find some
of your own and write a song about them, because remember,
to make history, you gotta make some noise. Nemony Out.
Speaker 7 (27:47):
Historical Records is produced in partnership with Story Pirates Studios,
Questloves two on five Entertainment John Blickman and iHeart Podcasts
Executive produced by a Mere Quest of Thompson, John Glickman,
Lee Overtree and Benjamin Salga. Executive produced for iHeart Podcasts
by Noel Brown. Producers for Story Pirate Studios are Isabella Riccio,
(28:11):
Sam Bear, Eric Gerson, Andrew Miller, Lee Overtree, Peter McNerney
and niminy Ware. Producers for two one five are Sean G. Britney,
Benjamin and Sarah Zolman. Hosted by niminy Ware. Our head
writer is Duke Doyle. Our historians are Gabe Pacheco and
Lee Polos. Music supervision for two one five by Stroe Elliott.
(28:33):
Scoring and music supervision for Story Pirate Studios by Eric Gerson.
Sound design and mixing by Sam Bear at the Relic
Room in New York City. Additional recording by Brett Tuban,
song mastering by Josh Han, Theme song by Dan Foster
and Eric Gerson and produced by Eric Erson. Production coordination
by Isabel Riccio, Production management by Maggie Lee. The line
(28:56):
producer for Story Pired Studios is Glynnis Brault. Pr for
Story Tired Studios is provided by Naomi Shaw. Episode artwork
by Camilla Franklin. This episode was written by Minzwee Karami.
The song mitsuya Endo was written by Dan Foster, produced
by Micah James and associate produced and vocal directed by
Eric Gerson. Special guest Anna Suzuki. This episode features performances
(29:19):
by Chris Ferry, Caroline Lux, Peter McNerney, Lee Overtree, and
Lee Polos
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