February 5, 2025 • 59 mins
We all knew that at some point, the two biggest egos in America would have an epic clash. But up until now, Trump's main character syndrome is undefeated. Today we consider some of President Trump's new policies that have Elon Musk's fingerprints all over them.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
All media.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
So this year, uh, I want to hear more from
y'all as to like what you want me to talk about.
I'll just be up here picking stuff that I find interesting,
you know. But we created a little survey that's gonna
be in the show notes and if you're on my
Patreon you already got it. But I just like, I mean,
(00:28):
are we doing all right? Like, let'st how can we
how can we get our weight up?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
You know?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
So please please, please please, if you find time, please.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Fill out that survey for me, just so I can, like,
you know what I'm saying, like, let's get some ideas
you feel me, like, let'sten.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
You know I'm here for y'all, all.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Right, you four to face it, I'm winning rewarded faces,
given reward to something something I don't know my own
rap well politics with pride anyway, how are you guys?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
That was me waiting for you to answer. I'm very
happy to be here.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
My voice is a little raspy because this is the
first Monday of the month. And if you know me
and you're watching, you see that banner back there, which
is reversed for some reason. I'm still learning how to
do all this camera stuff, but the banner says real
ones on it because of club Real Ones that happens
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every first Sunday, which kind of leads into the look
as like this shout out y'allhoo fought through and came
out and continue to support us. We was a real
little worry for a number of reasons. One, it was
Grammy weekend, so it was like, I don't know if
anybody coming, mostly because the one ten to the one
on one exchange, which is like two exits before if
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you're coming from the east side, two exits before you
get to our venue down by La Dasa, which I
have zero complaints about. Like, it was pretty beautiful to
see the way for which the city came together to
stand up for themselves and protests against some of these
just gross new immigration laws. I am the father of
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a person at elementary school, and knowing that it's very
possible that an ICE agent could show up at my
child school, just it sounds bonkers to me. It's an
anxiety that children shouldn't have to have, so a little
frustrated excuse them for being a little frustrated and shutting
down a freeway. I can be mildly inconvenienced in exchange
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for the things that they've gone through and are going
through right now. So I rode by honk from a
fist up you know what I'm saying, Like I'm with y'all, but.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I also know the city well enough.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
We had a party to throw, so was like, all right,
let me dip up Broadway up into Chinatown to go
over Grand because Grand goes over sess our job is,
and through downtown down a street Vermont to where I
had to go.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
This is very la but that's.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Why my voice is raspy, and today we got to
talk about Elon.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Now, what you might notice as you get into.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
This episode is the fact that the quality of this
video in the beginning of this is going to change
as we get into the meat of this. That is
because I actually recorded the episode that you are about
to really get into many weeks ago, with a whole
inner introduction about what I mean by having hands and
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all that. Who shot John? Like one of my parents
used to say that all that who shot John? But
it was recorded a while back, and I thought I
was gonna have to scrap it because of how you
know fast the news is going these days, But it
turned out to become much more relevant, and now we're
finding a place for it, so there's going to be
(03:54):
a quality shift. Please forgive me as far as like
this is concerned, it's also going to feel a little
Just join it because I'm gonna jump into content right
now before I explain what I mean by having hands,
because that's gonna happen later on, and you following me,
I don't want to edit this nice part into the
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junkie part, even though the junkie part ain't that junkie.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
It's just you understand what I'm saying. Life happened? You
feel me?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
How was I supposed to know La was gonna catch
on fire when I recorded that episode? I ain't know
La was gonna catch on fire. I ain't know we
was gonna have to stop what we was doing to
talk about that.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
I ain't This episode is called do Eli Have Hands?
All right, y'all? Do Eli have Hands?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
You're gonna hear a longer explanation later, but ultimately, like
you know it, it usually people who talk a lot
better know how to fight, and sometimes it's very funny
with people that can talk a lot don't know how
to fight. So you'll be like you ain't got no hands.
So you're gonna hear a little bit more about that
little later. But first, look, it's like this.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Look is like this bull look is like this.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Quite a busy week besides mid air crashes in Chocolate
City that apparently is because of Dei Dei is clearly
the new hard or you'll just be bouncing around. And
I feel like I wonder if you I wonder if
they hear themselves. Actually I think they hear themselves, which
is why they're saying it, in the sense that the
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logic that they're putting forward is that you are either
qualified or diverse. So that means there's two things that
have to happen. Now you have to define what diverse means.
And clearly we know what they mean because whenever a
woman in charge, a person of colors in charge, a
person that's differently able's in charge, or it gets the job,
then you say it's the diversity higher. So what you're
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telling me is only white men are qualified. Everyone else's
diversity in this world in your brain, you are either
qualified or diverse higher.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
And I just like, what the hell kind of world
you live in? What a tiny universe?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Apparently, according to Trump, that's why the planes crashed and
other news, the Lakers got Luca.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Now I'm a miss ad. I ain't gonna hold you.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
The thing that had us all in shock and me
and Sophie and in up all night on Sports Center
just farming the internet trying to understand what the hell
is happening is that if you've ever been hit on
by somebody that is extremely hot or felt like this
person is completely out of my league and you like,
I mean, I feel like I'm a catch, but like
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why you of all the people here? I can't why
you hitting on me?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Like?
Speaker 1 (07:00):
What am I missing? Here? Like? Why is this?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
I seem to be gaining so much in this? What
I don't understand? Am I missing something?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Like? Or like is is it gonna turn out that you? Like?
Are are you like a serial killer?
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Like?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
What's wrong? Like there seems to be no downside for
me in this? Why are you totally yo? I don't
what am I missing? That's I think why most of
us were in shock because we were like Lucas the MVP,
why why are y'all trading him?
Speaker 1 (07:34):
And then for the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
We was like, uh, we still ain't got a center,
and it seemed as though everything we was clicking, like
we was winning. Turned out Bron ain't no apparently, ad
ain't anybody no this what's happened?
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Bron was like I found out what y'all found out?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Its Grammy Week shout out, dude, She dark Skinned is back,
Rhapsody one dark Skinned is back, and of course k
dot dark Skin is back.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
That.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Speaking of which, Happy Black History Month. And I have
zero interest in educating. I like, I spent too many
years trying to teach you all about black history when
I'm like, the Internet exists and there are hundreds of
thousands of books written by people way smarter than me
that you could just you could go find. I am
now I think this this this Black History Month, I'm
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just gonna enjoy being black. That's what I'm gonna do
this month. Although we do got an episode coming out
on Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff where Magpie talks
about the Haitian Revolution, which is, oh yes, she.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Taught me some things. And now with too like that,
I ain't know. I can't believe I even learned. I
was like, dang, Magpie.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Surprised to no one. DJ Academics is weird. Though now
I may not be speaking to the right audience for this,
because I'm not sure if the vast if I look
at our I'm not sure the vast majority of people
that listen to this show would know DJ Academics is
for y'all that do though, you know he got kicked
off twitch y'all see what happened. So I'm gonna try
(09:09):
to make when black people say long story short, this
is gonna be a long story, but long story short.
So AQ was in his discord act as a hip
hop like I mean, I say, i'd say journalists with
a content creator. I mean, I would it almost cut
(09:30):
my mouth to say journalists justin Hunt that's a journalist.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Now.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
So he's on his discord, some kid pops in, fifteen
year old pops in the chat, pops in the stream.
They start talking and he asked little Homie if he's
gotten to the Yams yet, wink wink, and love Hummy
was like, uh, I'm not of age, fan, like I know,
like I'm a kid, you know, And then they start
roasting him for not being able to get to the
Yams yet. And these are grown men that are like
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roasting his key about like, damn you fifteen, you still
ain't netflixed and chilled, like you still haven't done that?
He like, I'm a kid, I just don't be you know.
So then they roasting him. They roasting him. Now, when
we were children around his age, the oh, the oh,
the big hummies used to roast us about our yam's access,
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like on a porch at the park.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Whatever.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
They were roast us. And I'm saying this to say
this was bad. They shouldn't have talked to us like that.
That would like we didn't know no better. It's probably
why a lot of us had to get a better
sexual ethic once we got older. Like a lot of
us didn't learn what was appropriate or not appropriate until
we were older, and we like had by that time,
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we had done so much damage, which was partially because
they didn't know no better. So they was putting this
thing on us that this is the problem. So one
would think once you get our age that you like, oh,
I ain't finna do the love hommy the way I
was done, because of how it damaged us. This man
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doing it on the internet with thousands of people watching.
So they teasing him whatever, like like you would tease
a little homie, and little Homiy stood his ground like
I don't think you should be talking to me like that.
So then the person that this love homie mods for
jumps on before he does that act, was like, yo,
if would you like if if you if we hired
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you some some women of the night, would you be
willing to get what if it was the guy that
you mod for his sister?
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Would you get you a taste of the yams?
Speaker 3 (11:37):
You know?
Speaker 2 (11:37):
And then he was like, well would you offer oral
to the person you mod for? And Love Hommy was like,
I really feel like you shouldn't talk to me like this,
like I'm fifteen. So then the guy that he mods
for jumps in and it's just like, my nigga, you
why you what's wrong with you? Like why are you
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talking into this child like this? And then he jumps
on his platform and he's like, listen, man, all the
little yi ins yo, I'm saying all the little homies
that follow me, like, don't let no grown men talk
to you like this. That's absurd. Twitch kicked him off.
They was like, you know, groomer head ass. Now I'm
gonna get a little specific on that. I buck against
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calling every inappropriate situation grooming. For this reason, I come
from an area where the term grooming came from, and
grooming is something very specific. And I feel like when
you stretch the term to too many things, the specificity
of how heinous and evil grooming actually is gets diluted.
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It stretches the definition too far to which I can't
identify this actual criminal in this academics is nasty. I
don't think he was talking to this little like this
for the purpose of having sex with him later. That's
what I'm saying. That's the grooming thing, or setting him
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up to be exploited later, that's grooming. He crossed every
possible line he needed to get kicked off, and like
I said, act is a weird though. Let's talk about
Elon Musk gets like this. So the episode you're about
to hear is about his stance on immigration, on the
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specific type of immigration, which is called highly skilled right,
a certain type of visa that Elon stood on business about.
The question that is central to this is when you
have two alphas. And I'm using the term alpha because
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it's just we've accepted that this is what we're talking
about now. Granted, the science behind alpha and beta art.
That stuff has been completely debunked. Thing about the wolves
is just not true, right, Even the guy that wrote
it was like, I was wrong.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
When the person that wrote the.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Thing comes out and says, yo, I was wrong about that,
maybe y'all should listen instead of building your whole platforms
on it. When you have two big personalities like that,
at some point somebody is going to become a subordinate,
like somebody is going to be subjective. I think a
good example for oh Hea, it would be like, you know,
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jay Z and Kanye, Like those are really big personalities.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
And not that they had a falling.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Out per se, but those those two sizes of personalities
just couldn't exist in the same It's against the laws
of physics. They just could not exist together. Now, in politics,
my thought was Donald Trump and Steve Bannon. I think
why Steve Bannon didn't stay as long as he was
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is because he's too ambitious. You can't be that ambitious.
In Trump's orb, he has to be the top G.
I'm using these terms even though they I throw up
a little in my mouth.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
But that's his these He has to be the top G.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Like that's how he moves so with somebody like Elon, who, honestly,
as far as business is concerned, as far as this
late stage capitalism, let's be real, that man is tap
dancing circles around Donald Trump as far as business is concerned.
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And I know Trump don't like that. What he do
like is being around and having people up under him
that make moves. The question is who was going back
off first? That was always my question. Now I think
Trump can't have no big dog in his org like that,
and it's just a matter of time. But I keep
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being surprised as to how effective, if you will, Elon
is maneuvering, how effective his inception has been over these years.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Now.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
The example, like I said you were about to hear,
is the.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
H one B visa.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
But since that happened, so many other things happened, one
of which was the Nazi thing that was clearly a
Nazi thing that I feel like if I was autistic,
I would be super offended that you're trying to blame
that on that man's autism.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Like I would be like, oh wait, wait, wait, wait,
time out.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
You know, far be it from me to speak to
the autistic population. But every autistic person, the person that
roasts our beans is autistic. And when I tell you that,
when he's into something, I tell you what I told him.
This that's why he's such a good roaster is because
the boy just gets minutia. There's a minutia that I
don't have the patience for that his brain is perfectly
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dialed into. So if it is so to me, I'm like,
it's not that that man would not know a Nazi
salute when he's seen it.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
It would be that that man would know.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Seventeen different versions of it and how it has evolved
over time. But I think at the end of the day,
like he's kind of a troll, so like there's there's
the troll element of it, but patrol with the Nazi
salute is some may't write, y'all, but I'm here to
talk about some new things that happen. Is this has
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happened since I recorded the last episode, which I keep
coming back to because apparently it's that's important to me.
In Trump's overwhelming desire to make sure that there is
only white men that run his situation sprinkle with a
few blonde girls, and his desire to make sure that
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we in no means even look in areas that are
diverse for expertise, to make sure that I'm not giving
no money to no programs that could possibly maybe a
little bit smell like or that it has any sort
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of just older of something that goes against the things
that I stand for. I'm gonna stop it all and
I'm a defunded And to his credit, now I need
you to hear me. To his credit, because this is
something that I've said about that man a few times.
When he say he's gonna do something, he he.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Don't be joking about it. And and that's the weird part.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Like, Okay, I'm gonna go back to Kanye again when
he said, Kanye say I'm a god, and they say, who.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Do you think you are? Kanye say, I just told
you a god. Trump say I'm gonna fire all these
federal employees because they don't be rocking with my agenda,
and y'all was like, by you, I mean they're you know,
they work for the government. He's not gonna guys, He's
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not gonna fire federal employees because you need employees. You
can't politic These are jobs that aren't politicized. These are
jobs where you just work for you and he's like
prosecuting me. Oh, he's not gonna he's just messing around.
He's like, I just I just told y'all that's what
I was gonna do.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I don't understand what y'all don't understand the stupid little
clip I posted, well, not I posted, but the Cool
Zone team posted about taking Trump serious for the last episode.
I was like this to y'all, need to check this
man serious? When this man said I'm gonna figure out
how to run a third term, and y'all all going
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Oskins Constitution.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Like, I'm like, I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
This is my point. Hey, They was dragging me in
the comments. Y'all keep saying he's not gonna do that,
he can't do that. What are you talking about? You
don't understand that you can't do it.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
I'm like, did you hear what I was just saying
to y'all? How many times have.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
You said he can't do that, or he won't do that,
or he not gonna do that, and then he do it?
And then the thing is I keep looking at y'all
saying he said he was gonna do that. What I'm
so confused as to what is confusing you? This is
what he said he was gonna do. So I, for
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one take that man serious. Now I am not destroyed
by him, but that's partially because I'm not waiting for
ice agents to knock down my door. So when President
Trump decided he was gonna fire all these federal employees,
they were offered a resign now to be paid through September,
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and it stunned all the workers that received it. They
were like, so you're gonna fire me, but if I
just quit, you'll give me seven months pay. So some
of them were like, you could stay on for seven
months if you promised to quit, And they're like, what,
I'm fired and I'm not fired?
Speaker 1 (21:14):
What so you firing me, but you want me to
stay on you so you want me to train my replacement.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
But if a quit, you're gonna give me seven months pay?
Are you really gonna give me seven months pay? The
reason why you could ask that question is because don't
that sound like the Twitter takeover? Is that not exactly
what happened to Twitter? Well, if you quit, I'll let you.
I'll pay you through your time to make sure we
gets set up. Now, let me ask you this. Were
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they paid then?
Speaker 1 (21:43):
People wasn't paid, which leads me to this question, whose
idea was that dude? Eli got hands? Is Elon more
effective then I'm giving this man credit for. Is Trump just.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Take Elon's ideas and putting his name on it but
all of us can clearly see that this was Elon's idea?
Or is this just Elon running the Doge?
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Now?
Speaker 2 (22:09):
I did reading the Doge program that Elon was gonna
get rid of pennies and honestly, no notes. I mean,
what are we gonna do with pennies? They cost more
to make than their worth. So I mean, I feel you.
But how this man is able to wield his will
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on a person who seems to me like, don't listen
to nobody.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
I'm kind of impressed Elon got.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Now.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Believe it or not, the FBI has a reddit. I
don't know why that's so funny to me, but the
FBI got a reddit.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Now.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
On the FBI Reddit, they were talking about ways for
which to disguise your identity if you was going to
start snitching and leaking things about this transition right.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Now.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
What the Doze team is doing is something that was
reported by Okay, forgive me the Daily Beast, But they're
reporting on this. Elon Musk is threatening to fire the
employees who leak information as President Donald Trump unleash an
unprecedented chaos in government. Now, clearly the term unprecedented chaos.
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It's a bit biased, it's a bit inflammatory. Also, what's
happening On Sunday? A user posted on an anonymous operational
security reminder on Reddit's fbi form with the advice for
sharing information that can't be traced back to the source.
The post claim that must staffers are using fingerprinting on
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emails and notices as a way of identifying information leakers. Now,
this is essentially an email watermark, like adding a space
here or making a typo. There are similar subtle changes
to track leaks right on a post red. So what
that means is like a good way to know that
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I'm texting you is an arbitrary capital word. I don't
know why I do that.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
I just do.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
A ridiculous amount of spelling typos because a lot of
times i'm I'm thinking fast, then I'm typing so like
I'll send the thing, and then I realized this wasn't
clear that I'll send something else. So it's so disjointed
Sophie and then make fun of me all the time.
Every show description, Ian re writes, I apologize to miss Cronin,
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to mister Pulicky, mister Jeffrey. These were my English teachers.
They all said the same thing about me. This boy
is so smart. If he would just slow down so
they would know exactly who I was if I tried
to email about this. So Elon went ahead and XT
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with regards to the leakers, if in doubt they are
out right, meaning if I think maybe you was the
one leaking this, we just fired you. But it's like fam,
I'm finna get fired anyway. All I'm saying is Elon
got hands. I think I've answered the question of the show.
Do Elon got hands? And turns out the boy got hands?
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I knew we had finesse, I didn't think he had hands.
All right, Now, let's watch the other episode for the
rest of.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
This one, what's up all your little sucker MC's propagandha here, welcome.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
To twenty twenty five Editional Politics with pri Man twenty
twenty four, Like twenty twenty four had hands, ain't no
other way around it.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
There was a meme that came by my.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Social media that I was like, yeah, this is the
on there's a little like rudimentary, like late nineties computer
drawing of a guy about the box. He was like,
all right, I'm about to fight these thoughts. And then
on the bottom it's got him sitting down in the
corner of a ring, drinking his water saying, damn, brain
got hands. Now, I don't know how many of y'all
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that that deeply resonates with, where you like, I was
gonna fight all these negative thoughts, it gonna think positive,
but your brain was like, no, hey, your whole life
is trash and you never going out to anything. I
don't know if your brain be telling you that your
brain got hands twenty twenty four. Twenty twenty four was
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like what started off as so glorious. You know by
this point you have heard the full edition of the
State of the Blackness, and even in the State of
the Blackness, of all the great things of that happened. Also,
twenty twenty four had hands. I mean not to I
ain't even mention how horribly off key Alicia Keys saying
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at the Super Bowl like had hands. The question is
do you know what I mean by half hands?
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Now?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
I feel like by this context, you should already know
what that means. Is like they punch hard, they fight well.
Some people like fighting, like enjoy the adrenaline of like
not in the angrily sense, but just in the contact,
the testosterone of it all that they enjoy contact sports
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like like fighting, and a lot of times those are
the people that get into you know, boxing or UFC
or kickboxing. Like my one of my cousins, I don't
know if I could call him a first cousin, is
he a second cousin. He's my grandmother's sister. He's my
dad's cousins child. But also our grandparents follow me are related,
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Like our grandfathers are brothers, but our grandmothers are sisters.
So like two sisters married two brothers.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
So he's like a double cut.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
I don't know what you call that, Like he liked
fighting like he and kickboxing like he's like he likes
it the only d smoke like they like they like it,
and he's good at it, like he's good. I I
don't like it. Now, I have all the testosterone that
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one would expect from a cisgendered heterosexual boy from the
East side, you know, east of the River Los Angeles like,
I got all that, but I don't like Merse like Merse,
Merks likes likes it, probably not anymore he's but either
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way for me, I'm like, I don't like I don't
like it.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
I didn't like it. They don't like it.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Now.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Now, that don't mean I can't fight.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Somebody that can't fight somebody that just the technique is
all off. You're gonna get mopped because you're not like
you just don't know how to fight that person.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Don't have no hands.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Another way to say is like even when they when
they punch you, it don't hurt like this, just you
ain't got hands, like you don't. And usually the advice
for somebody that don't got hands is they should shut
their mouth. You're right like, Unfortunately, it's a lot of
people that talk a lot that ain't got hands, right like,
and when you when you understand at least if you
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came up the way I came up, like my daddy
would say, like mam, like, oh, folks, say you write
in a check with your mouth that your butt can't cash,
you know, So basically it's like, my dude.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
You you you you.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Talking like you know how to fight you can't. You
better be able to like, you know, damn it, like
back up your We better be able to back it up.
So you talk it like like you you have to
have hands. That's just a short way to say this,
like do we got hands?
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Like sneak got hands?
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Sometimes you find out the hard way of somebody got
hands or not. I found out my wife refer to
her by her prefix doctor al Mazara Goza petty got
hands because this is this is me confessing about my
spousal abuse. I am just kidding. I please, guys, I'm
just kidding. But she got hands. It's not it was
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from us like messing around and you know, just playfully
like she got hands. I was like, oh, I better
not ever actually make her mad because we was smiling
the whole time. But the question that makes this something
that we could talk about all her politics is now,
wait a minute, does Elon Musk have hands? So look
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this big old smile on my face? Talk about because yo,
I think ya got hands? Now, hey, Elon fight. It
depends on the type of fight we talk about. What
I'm talking about is something obviously having to do with politics,
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and as you know, the premise of this show is.
You know, if you understand in a city living, you
understand politics. You get the way that the interactions between
how politicians communicate to us, the way they communicate.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
To each other. You've the tools for which you use
to broker power.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
This is just a refresher course for anybody who just
coming into season four. If you've survived the lives the
environments that I and a lot of my friends and
cohorts have survived, then you understand politics more than you
think when a person gets in power because of the
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way that our governmental system turns out to be set up.
Because as y'all know, with the system of checks and
balances and the three branches of government, it wasn't on paper,
ain't supposed to work this way, but we got a
strong man government, and with the electric boogoloo of Trump,
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it means that it's getting even more strong man because
as we know, Trump's main thing is loyalty. Trump needs
to be the top g Trump gotta be nobody, you know.
He need to have the biggest shine, the biggest powered,
the most TV. But I need all my love homies
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to be able to not just handle my light work,
but you need to be able to be as flashy,
as strong as dope as I am, but also loyal
to the top g like I need to know that.
Like you need to shine but not outshine me. But
if you're a boss, you got to surround yourself with
people that are boss like, right, but not too boss like,
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because if you too boss like, then it's trouble in paradise. Now,
a lot of us who've been watching this, this bromance
between Elon Musk and Trump were predicting the inevitable, inevitable
power struggle. And the question that was coming up in
my mind is do Elon got hands like or is
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Trump gonna do what he always does when somebody get
a little too much juice?
Speaker 1 (34:29):
You gone, I'm gonna get you out the org.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
I felt like that was the question that was eventually
about to about to hit us all you are because
at the end of the day, whether whether Naga wants
to believe it or not, a tech bro billionaire is
a strange bedfellow. It's a strange bedfellow, even stranger than
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our history of oil tycoons being your bad fellow. That's
a weird crew to being because at some point your
loyalties are gonna split because money likes money. Now, I
feel like you don't need to be from the streets
to know that there's an inevitable which I mean, is
(35:18):
y'all paying attention, especially with old Luigi, an inevitable class
consciousness that is going to I mean again, I'm just
this is just my antent is it's going to be
in my mind. The story of twenty twenty five is
a class consciousness for two reasons. One because it's what
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Trump is counting on. I mean, he he's a nativist,
you know. Uses I'm not gonna use too many of
the big old words because I need to get to
the point I'm trying to get to, which is the
question is it turns out or not?
Speaker 1 (35:52):
The question to answer that turns out? Elon got hands.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
But you know, with the nativist populist you know, America first,
taking care the little guy type beat that Trump ran on,
while at the same time right in your face having
multiple billionaires right next to you. And the thing about
these billionaires that are right next to you, they mask
off about it. They like, now we rich, we just
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we just be using our money to help y'all, And
while full well knowing they not doing it like that's.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Thereaeness of it all.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
The question only for me was where is the riff
gonna start? Where is this power struggle really gonna be
because at the end of the day, in my mind,
I'm like billionaires going billionaire, right, and Trump gets to
the money. And remember, like, even if you was convincing
these lower educational lower not as a disc I'm just
(36:53):
saying as a factual point, but lower ses Americans that
Trump is your guy by saying I'm gonna stop immigration,
I'm gonna stop you know what I'm saying, these foreign
workers taking your jobs.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
I'm gonna stop this invasion.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
At the border, right, And like with that, at the helm,
where is the beef gonna show up?
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Where is the power come struggle gonna happen?
Speaker 2 (37:18):
I thought at some point it was probably gonna be
over popularity.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
And that's one.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Way that that Trump is being trolled right now by
them Food's calling Elon president Elon right, So I thought
that I was like, oh, there's the crack right there,
and this was gonna get Elon ejected.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
But you know why I thought.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
That is because I thought Elon ain't have I thought
to me, Elon in here about his money and the
reason why he lined up with Trump like this was
just for him. I'm thinking, I get what he doing this.
This shit is pragmatic, like I'm on line with this
big dog to get what I need for what I'm
doing to work, work, work with my own program. That's
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why it made sense to me. He know he can't
be president, he's not born here. The riff would happen
over there, over his popularity. Turns out it was over immigration,
and it turns out Elon got hands and we talk
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about it next.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
All right, So what I'm talking about is.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
H one B visas. Now, there's multiple types of visas.
If you're coming into this country, if you're immigrating legally
into this country, right, you have certain types of visas.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
There's an H one and an H two.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Elon got on his platform that he purchased right with
this banger of the quote, the reason I'm in America,
along with many other critical people who built SpaceX, Tesla
and hundreds of others that made America strong.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Is because of H one B. Take a big step
back and fuck yourself in the face. What a weird
way to say that.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Anyway, I will go to war on this issue, the
likes of which you cannot possibly comprehend.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
What the hell is he talking about. H one B
is a type of.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Visa that one gets for what they call highly skilled workers. Now,
I'm gonna read some stuff here for you, y'all, for
you to know exactly what I mean by that.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
So, an H one B is a category of a
temporary work authorized category which authorizes the employment of professionals
who will work in a specialty occupation position.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
And the H one B eligibility requires an offer of
employment from a US employer in a specialty occupation right now,
the USCIS defines specialty occupation as a position which requires
a theoretical and practical application of specialized knowledge right and
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required at minimum to have a bachelor's degree in a
specialty for entry of profession right now. There's only a
limited number of these available for in a fiscal year. Now,
the way to get those, because there's only a limited
number of them is a.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
Lottery, believe it or not, peak the name out of that.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Hopefully you get to thank And since there's a like
I said, there's a lotteries since there's only a limited number. Okay,
if the name Forum National on an H one B
petition has ever held an H one B status right
within the last six years, then the position is subject
to like the H one B cap. Right now, a
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total of eighty five thousand CAP subject H one b's
are available per government fiscal year. The cap related H
one b's are allocated like this. There's fifty seven thousand
available all qualifying be beneficiaries. There's twenty seven thousand available
to graduates holding US master's degrees or higher. Meaning you
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from another country, you came here for school, got a
master's degree. Now you want to work here, but remember
you don't live here. So right now you was on
a student visa and then after that you got to
switch to a work visa. Now that you've got a
master's degree, should be able to stay here and work
the country that you've been going to school in, right,
but you only stay for a certain amount of time
and then, which is so weird. There's eight thousand available
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for nationals of Singapore and Chile.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
This just throw them countries it right now.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Although the law does not specifically say what it considers
to be specialty occupations, again, they're defined as specialized knowledge
that takes a bachelor's degree or higher. You know, when
you call into an it thing and it's a I mean,
it's a trope. Now and the person on the phone
(42:40):
has a thick Indian accent, that's an H one B.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
Visa. You work for an American company.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
A lot of times the company has a footprint here,
but they're allowed to hire foreign skilled workers based on
this visa to work for this company.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
Now Elon is.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Saying, I don't care what the hell you ran on
American jobs, factory workers.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
I don't care about none of that. I don't care
what JD. Van said.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
I don't care. I don't care about none of that.
Fuck yourself in the face. All care about Billy Bob
and little baby Billy. I don't care about none of
them in your little heartland of America. I ain't even
from America.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
I need people that can do this job. And this
is why I'm here. I came to America to get
to the Yams fam and I'm gonna get to people
I need to get you know why, because I get
to the bread. But back with the same thing, I
don't care what you ran on. So now Trump in
this position because the other side of his crew because
he wanted to keep the billionaires because they keep the
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bread coming in. The billionaires. Is like, I don't care
about your immigration shit. Do you know the H two
H H two visa is that's to be able to
work in agriculture. So right now, currently, at this very moment,
according to the New York Times, Trump is offering over
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a thousand h two visas for his vineyard for the
Trump Wine Vineyard fifteen bucks an hour.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
But he running on I'm here for the locals.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
So you got people like Steven Miller and Steven Bannon
and Steve Bannon who've been trying to say this for
years that H one be as a scam. He's like, look,
you not hireing Americans, and the people you bringing in
you can.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
Pay them far less. So what's happening is the same
stuff that we say about Margaret farm workers is the
same thing they saying is happening in the tech world
in Silicon Valley. I could hire these foreign workers because
I gotta pay them as much. They can't leave the
city because you only allowed to beware this particular they
can't go nowhere. These people that come work for you
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on an H one B visa. They can't apply nowhere
else because they would lose their visa. You gotta be here.
You gotta work for their company. And I got you
for three years, and you probably most skilled than everybody
else in.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
Here, and I could pay you less, and you don't
necessarily gotta live here, so I ain't even got to
pay you an American living wage. Steve Bannon is like
fam I thought we was here for us.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
I thought we was what what is we doing? So
this means you got the maga wing? That's like my
g my g I thought we was building a wall.
What happened to the wall?
Speaker 2 (45:54):
I thought we was about American jobs, which I hope
you hear the subtext, which is like, oh, I mean
y'all could turn a wrench. I don't mind you turning
a wrench, but you can't work in management. Y'all cost
too much. But I definitely hire these foreign workers. I
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ain't got to pay them as much, and they kind
of know what they're doing. See the ill thing about
I mean, you say what you will. There's two types.
Speaker 1 (46:32):
Of races to be.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
There's the pragmatic races and then there's the principled racist.
That principled racist was how Oregon, when it was a
whites only state, didn't allow slavery. They said, we don't.
We want to be a free state. We don't allow
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slavery in our in our state. But they said that
because they just didn't even want to live next to
black people. And then there's the pragmatic ones that's like, well,
we here for the bread. I don't I don't care
if you from a trash country, if you could do
the job, like I really don't. I mean, if you're
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making me money, I'll pay you whatever you need to
pay because I'm here for the bread.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
I ain't gotta like you. I don't even gotta look
at you. I'm here for the bread.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
So it creates this again, this class consciousness I'm talking about.
I'm like, all right, uh, are you gonna.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
What's up?
Speaker 2 (47:41):
Like, so we're gonna do this billionaire thing, because if
we do the billionaire thing, guess what, nothing changes.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
You voted, You're like you ran on the you ran
for truy. Nothing changed because he's still gonna get foreign workers.
I thought you was running like nothing gonna change. You
run a billionaire, you run a billionaire gambit if he
don't run a billionaire Gabbitt, and he do the nativist thing.
He lose the bread because the billionaires had the most
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power of what you're gonna do, what you're gonna do.
There's trouble in paradise. Now.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
Will they be able to solve H one B and
this visa, this legal immigration visa situation in any time soon? No,
They've been talking about it since the freaking Bush administration.
You're not finna figure this out. Some of you may
push back and say, he wasn't arguing about legal immigration,
he was arguing about illegal immigration. Well, you know, asylum
(48:40):
seekers are legal immigration also, So in a lot more
going on there.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
Now.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
The pushback to H one B is as we've can
even hear Steve Bannon say, which is like you're discriminating
against US citizens. And matter of fact, Facebook had to
settle a lawsuit where Facebook settled a claim. I'm reading
this from immigrationhistory dot org.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
They had to settle in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
They had to settle a claim with the Department of
Justice that they discriminated against US workers in favor of
temporary visa holders, and the company paid four point seventy
five million in civil penalty and set aside nine point
five million for eligible victims. Another one of the pushbacks is, yeah,
(49:38):
like the slave wages things. It's like, you can't if
you're here on one of them visas, you can't go nowhere.
You can't move right, and I don't have to pay
you American level wages. You just happy to be in
the building. So Trump, who has been telling us for
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the last eight years that immigration is the problem elon
jump up and say, hold up, but I like this
type of immigration.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
Do he got hands?
Speaker 2 (50:15):
Turns out absolutely because what Trump said was, and I quote,
I've always liked the H one program. I love those visas,
I've used them.
Speaker 1 (50:30):
Which is not necessarily true. He didn't always love it.
Speaker 2 (50:35):
He used to say he was gonna end it, and
then turned his tail in twenty nineteen because at first
he tried to stop it, but then later he was like, look, dude,
if you graduate, if you're a foreign citizen and you
graduate from a US university, you should immediately get a
green card. That's one thing Trump say. Now, so he
at this point, I mean, he on the billionaire side. Now,
(50:56):
the question to me is like, who do that?
Speaker 1 (51:00):
Surprise you? Don't you? Did you who who? Who? Who?
Speaker 2 (51:11):
Didn't expect this man to go where the bread is?
I know I did I expect him to go where
the bread is. But the question is, you know, when
worst come to worst, do his people come first? Which
asked by the Great profits Havoc and prodigy of mob Deep,
(51:33):
do your people come first? I mean, you've been saying
that for a year and a half. It sounded like
the bread come first, and it sound like sounds like
Elon got hands. Now is this just a silly little squirmish,
a little food fight among you know, restlessness within the house.
Speaker 1 (51:53):
Maybe.
Speaker 2 (51:54):
What's crazy though, which is really blowing my mind is
Trump has made the state that like, oh he not
changing the h one visas? And nobody mad at Trump?
They mad at Elon. This man got a death grip.
Nobody mad Ain't nobody blaming Trump for that. They are
mad at Elon, Like Elon, why'd you tell him that?
Speaker 1 (52:16):
Bro?
Speaker 2 (52:18):
So everybody turned everybody mad at Elon for saying the obvious,
even though Trump the only one that could press played.
Speaker 1 (52:24):
But y'all not mad at Trump. Y'all mad at Elon. Now.
Speaker 2 (52:26):
The last point I'm making this is that Elon ain't
in the Congress. So no matter what any of them
are talking about, any policy, it's got to get through
the Congress. Now, obviously, Trump is in a situation where
you know, his team is up, so it's very possible
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that the things for which he might desire to pull
to pull off it becomes that much more easier.
Speaker 1 (52:55):
However, what I have found.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
Is no matter who's in charge, when you start messing
up the money, it seems as though nothing really changes that.
And then also my second last thing is this may
not be the only little tiff that Elon and Trump have.
(53:21):
Who knows, or maybe maybe they're absolutely in love, who knows.
What we know is we can't really predict much right now.
I mean, the nigga's not even president yet. Like let's
remember that he's not even there yet. Well, actually, by
the time this comes out, he is. The point I'm
saying is it's only like day two, So prediction as
(53:42):
to like how this stuff's gonna go later is silly.
Speaker 1 (53:44):
But at the end of the day, but.
Speaker 2 (53:49):
I tell you this, if you ain't figure it out
in this situation, you should have known when that man
bought Twitter, Elon got hands, he gonna.
Speaker 1 (54:06):
He gonna do what he gonna do.
Speaker 3 (54:10):
M hm.
Speaker 1 (54:13):
Hm h m hm h m hm. I just wonder
where this fight gonna go.
Speaker 2 (54:29):
I just wonder how long it's gonna take, how you know,
if they gonna if he's gonna continue to, you know,
throw hands.
Speaker 1 (54:38):
What's y'all think? What y'all think?
Speaker 2 (54:43):
Anyway, just for a little bit of history and you
know your education, the H two So the H two
visus you could go to like Immigranthistory dot org. So
H two that's the one that where Mike farm workers
come from. So the H two visa program was built
(55:05):
on a World War two era arrangements that was established
by I don't know if you knew this, the War
Food Administration. Did you know that that was a thing
that brought guest workers from the Bahamas, Jamaica, Barbados, and
other Caribbean islands to labor under contracts similar to those
established by the US Mexico Bracero program bakhettal through the
(55:31):
nineteen forties, thousands of Caribbean guest workers. Did you know
this landed on the East Coast farms from Florida to
the northeast. The nineteen fifty two Immigration and Nationality Act
provided the statutory language to make these arrangements permanent with
non immigrant visa categories, so it's a work visa right.
(55:55):
Unlike previous government to government labor programs, the H two
visa program allowed US employers to recruit workers follow me
directly from any country once the Attorney General accepted petitions,
which gave employers direct control over their guest workers VISUS.
Speaker 1 (56:19):
Yo, I need you to understand. While you mad at immigrants,
your government set up the system. I'm just this is
just what happened the end of the day. Like I said,
turns out Elon got hands.
Speaker 2 (56:42):
So while I was thinking that at some point Elon
was gonna feel a little too froggy and Trump was
gonna throw hands in him, turns out Elon said, hold up, homie,
hold up, you ain't gonna mess with my meal. You
ain't finna get in between my meal. Homie, keep in
(57:06):
mind the onlyest reason I got behind you. What's so
that my meals stay right? And I got hands on it?
Speaker 1 (57:21):
Well?
Speaker 2 (57:21):
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I'll just be up here picking stuff that I find interesting,
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You know I'm here for y'all, all.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Right, you four to face it, I'm winning rewarded faces,
given reward to something something I don't know my own
rap well politics with pride anyway, how are you guys?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
That was me waiting for you to answer. I'm very
happy to be here.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
My voice is a little raspy because this is the
first Monday of the month. And if you know me
and you're watching, you see that banner back there, which
is reversed for some reason. I'm still learning how to
do all this camera stuff, but the banner says real
ones on it because of club Real Ones that happens
(01:34):
every first Sunday, which kind of leads into the look
as like this shout out y'allhoo fought through and came
out and continue to support us. We was a real
little worry for a number of reasons. One, it was
Grammy weekend, so it was like, I don't know if
anybody coming, mostly because the one ten to the one
on one exchange, which is like two exits before if
(01:55):
you're coming from the east side, two exits before you
get to our venue down by La Dasa, which I
have zero complaints about. Like, it was pretty beautiful to
see the way for which the city came together to
stand up for themselves and protests against some of these
just gross new immigration laws. I am the father of
(02:15):
a person at elementary school, and knowing that it's very
possible that an ICE agent could show up at my
child school, just it sounds bonkers to me. It's an
anxiety that children shouldn't have to have, so a little
frustrated excuse them for being a little frustrated and shutting
down a freeway. I can be mildly inconvenienced in exchange
(02:37):
for the things that they've gone through and are going
through right now. So I rode by honk from a
fist up you know what I'm saying, Like I'm with y'all, but.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I also know the city well enough.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
We had a party to throw, so was like, all right,
let me dip up Broadway up into Chinatown to go
over Grand because Grand goes over sess our job is,
and through downtown down a street Vermont to where I
had to go.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
This is very la but that's.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Why my voice is raspy, and today we got to
talk about Elon.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Now, what you might notice as you get into.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
This episode is the fact that the quality of this
video in the beginning of this is going to change
as we get into the meat of this. That is
because I actually recorded the episode that you are about
to really get into many weeks ago, with a whole
inner introduction about what I mean by having hands and
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all that. Who shot John? Like one of my parents
used to say that all that who shot John? But
it was recorded a while back, and I thought I
was gonna have to scrap it because of how you
know fast the news is going these days, But it
turned out to become much more relevant, and now we're
finding a place for it, so there's going to be
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a quality shift. Please forgive me as far as like
this is concerned, it's also going to feel a little
Just join it because I'm gonna jump into content right
now before I explain what I mean by having hands,
because that's gonna happen later on, and you following me,
I don't want to edit this nice part into the
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junkie part, even though the junkie part ain't that junkie.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
It's just you understand what I'm saying. Life happened? You
feel me?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
How was I supposed to know La was gonna catch
on fire when I recorded that episode? I ain't know
La was gonna catch on fire. I ain't know we
was gonna have to stop what we was doing to
talk about that.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
I ain't This episode is called do Eli Have Hands?
All right, y'all? Do Eli have Hands?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
You're gonna hear a longer explanation later, but ultimately, like
you know it, it usually people who talk a lot
better know how to fight, and sometimes it's very funny
with people that can talk a lot don't know how
to fight. So you'll be like you ain't got no hands.
So you're gonna hear a little bit more about that
little later. But first, look, it's like this.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Look is like this bull look is like this.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Quite a busy week besides mid air crashes in Chocolate
City that apparently is because of Dei Dei is clearly
the new hard or you'll just be bouncing around. And
I feel like I wonder if you I wonder if
they hear themselves. Actually I think they hear themselves, which
is why they're saying it, in the sense that the
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logic that they're putting forward is that you are either
qualified or diverse. So that means there's two things that
have to happen. Now you have to define what diverse means.
And clearly we know what they mean because whenever a
woman in charge, a person of colors in charge, a
person that's differently able's in charge, or it gets the job,
then you say it's the diversity higher. So what you're
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telling me is only white men are qualified. Everyone else's
diversity in this world in your brain, you are either
qualified or diverse higher.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
And I just like, what the hell kind of world
you live in? What a tiny universe?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Apparently, according to Trump, that's why the planes crashed and
other news, the Lakers got Luca.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Now I'm a miss ad. I ain't gonna hold you.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
The thing that had us all in shock and me
and Sophie and in up all night on Sports Center
just farming the internet trying to understand what the hell
is happening is that if you've ever been hit on
by somebody that is extremely hot or felt like this
person is completely out of my league and you like,
I mean, I feel like I'm a catch, but like
(06:56):
why you of all the people here? I can't why
you hitting on me?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Like?
Speaker 1 (07:00):
What am I missing? Here? Like? Why is this?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
I seem to be gaining so much in this? What
I don't understand? Am I missing something?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Like? Or like is is it gonna turn out that you? Like?
Are are you like a serial killer?
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Like?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
What's wrong? Like there seems to be no downside for
me in this? Why are you totally yo? I don't
what am I missing? That's I think why most of
us were in shock because we were like Lucas the MVP,
why why are y'all trading him?
Speaker 1 (07:34):
And then for the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
We was like, uh, we still ain't got a center,
and it seemed as though everything we was clicking, like
we was winning. Turned out Bron ain't no apparently, ad
ain't anybody no this what's happened?
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Bron was like I found out what y'all found out?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Its Grammy Week shout out, dude, She dark Skinned is back,
Rhapsody one dark Skinned is back, and of course k
dot dark Skin is back.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
That.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Speaking of which, Happy Black History Month. And I have
zero interest in educating. I like, I spent too many
years trying to teach you all about black history when
I'm like, the Internet exists and there are hundreds of
thousands of books written by people way smarter than me
that you could just you could go find. I am
now I think this this this Black History Month, I'm
(08:25):
just gonna enjoy being black. That's what I'm gonna do
this month. Although we do got an episode coming out
on Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff where Magpie talks
about the Haitian Revolution, which is, oh yes, she.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Taught me some things. And now with too like that,
I ain't know. I can't believe I even learned. I
was like, dang, Magpie.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Surprised to no one. DJ Academics is weird. Though now
I may not be speaking to the right audience for this,
because I'm not sure if the vast if I look
at our I'm not sure the vast majority of people
that listen to this show would know DJ Academics is
for y'all that do though, you know he got kicked
off twitch y'all see what happened. So I'm gonna try
(09:09):
to make when black people say long story short, this
is gonna be a long story, but long story short.
So AQ was in his discord act as a hip
hop like I mean, I say, i'd say journalists with
a content creator. I mean, I would it almost cut
(09:30):
my mouth to say journalists justin Hunt that's a journalist.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Now.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
So he's on his discord, some kid pops in, fifteen
year old pops in the chat, pops in the stream.
They start talking and he asked little Homie if he's
gotten to the Yams yet, wink wink, and love Hummy
was like, uh, I'm not of age, fan, like I know,
like I'm a kid, you know, And then they start
roasting him for not being able to get to the
Yams yet. And these are grown men that are like
(09:59):
roasting his key about like, damn you fifteen, you still
ain't netflixed and chilled, like you still haven't done that?
He like, I'm a kid, I just don't be you know.
So then they roasting him. They roasting him. Now, when
we were children around his age, the oh, the oh,
the big hummies used to roast us about our yam's access,
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like on a porch at the park.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Whatever.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
They were roast us. And I'm saying this to say
this was bad. They shouldn't have talked to us like that.
That would like we didn't know no better. It's probably
why a lot of us had to get a better
sexual ethic once we got older. Like a lot of
us didn't learn what was appropriate or not appropriate until
we were older, and we like had by that time,
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we had done so much damage, which was partially because
they didn't know no better. So they was putting this
thing on us that this is the problem. So one
would think once you get our age that you like, oh,
I ain't finna do the love hommy the way I
was done, because of how it damaged us. This man
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doing it on the internet with thousands of people watching.
So they teasing him whatever, like like you would tease
a little homie, and little Homiy stood his ground like
I don't think you should be talking to me like that.
So then the person that this love homie mods for
jumps on before he does that act, was like, yo,
if would you like if if you if we hired
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you some some women of the night, would you be
willing to get what if it was the guy that
you mod for his sister?
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Would you get you a taste of the yams?
Speaker 3 (11:37):
You know?
Speaker 2 (11:37):
And then he was like, well would you offer oral
to the person you mod for? And Love Hommy was like,
I really feel like you shouldn't talk to me like this,
like I'm fifteen. So then the guy that he mods
for jumps in and it's just like, my nigga, you
why you what's wrong with you? Like why are you
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talking into this child like this? And then he jumps
on his platform and he's like, listen, man, all the
little yi ins yo, I'm saying all the little homies
that follow me, like, don't let no grown men talk
to you like this. That's absurd. Twitch kicked him off.
They was like, you know, groomer head ass. Now I'm
gonna get a little specific on that. I buck against
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calling every inappropriate situation grooming. For this reason, I come
from an area where the term grooming came from, and
grooming is something very specific. And I feel like when
you stretch the term to too many things, the specificity
of how heinous and evil grooming actually is gets diluted.
(12:45):
It stretches the definition too far to which I can't
identify this actual criminal in this academics is nasty. I
don't think he was talking to this little like this
for the purpose of having sex with him later. That's
what I'm saying. That's the grooming thing, or setting him
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up to be exploited later, that's grooming. He crossed every
possible line he needed to get kicked off, and like
I said, act is a weird though. Let's talk about
Elon Musk gets like this. So the episode you're about
to hear is about his stance on immigration, on the
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specific type of immigration, which is called highly skilled right,
a certain type of visa that Elon stood on business about.
The question that is central to this is when you
have two alphas. And I'm using the term alpha because
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it's just we've accepted that this is what we're talking
about now. Granted, the science behind alpha and beta art.
That stuff has been completely debunked. Thing about the wolves
is just not true, right, Even the guy that wrote
it was like, I was wrong.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
When the person that wrote the.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Thing comes out and says, yo, I was wrong about that,
maybe y'all should listen instead of building your whole platforms
on it. When you have two big personalities like that,
at some point somebody is going to become a subordinate,
like somebody is going to be subjective. I think a
good example for oh Hea, it would be like, you know,
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jay Z and Kanye, Like those are really big personalities.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
And not that they had a falling.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Out per se, but those those two sizes of personalities
just couldn't exist in the same It's against the laws
of physics. They just could not exist together. Now, in politics,
my thought was Donald Trump and Steve Bannon. I think
why Steve Bannon didn't stay as long as he was
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is because he's too ambitious. You can't be that ambitious.
In Trump's orb, he has to be the top G.
I'm using these terms even though they I throw up
a little in my mouth.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
But that's his these He has to be the top G.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Like that's how he moves so with somebody like Elon, who, honestly,
as far as business is concerned, as far as this
late stage capitalism, let's be real, that man is tap
dancing circles around Donald Trump as far as business is concerned.
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And I know Trump don't like that. What he do
like is being around and having people up under him
that make moves. The question is who was going back
off first? That was always my question. Now I think
Trump can't have no big dog in his org like that,
and it's just a matter of time. But I keep
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being surprised as to how effective, if you will, Elon
is maneuvering, how effective his inception has been over these years.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Now.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
The example, like I said you were about to hear,
is the.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
H one B visa.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
But since that happened, so many other things happened, one
of which was the Nazi thing that was clearly a
Nazi thing that I feel like if I was autistic,
I would be super offended that you're trying to blame
that on that man's autism.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Like I would be like, oh wait, wait, wait, wait,
time out.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
You know, far be it from me to speak to
the autistic population. But every autistic person, the person that
roasts our beans is autistic. And when I tell you that,
when he's into something, I tell you what I told him.
This that's why he's such a good roaster is because
the boy just gets minutia. There's a minutia that I
don't have the patience for that his brain is perfectly
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dialed into. So if it is so to me, I'm like,
it's not that that man would not know a Nazi
salute when he's seen it.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
It would be that that man would know.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Seventeen different versions of it and how it has evolved
over time. But I think at the end of the day,
like he's kind of a troll, so like there's there's
the troll element of it, but patrol with the Nazi
salute is some may't write, y'all, but I'm here to
talk about some new things that happen. Is this has
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happened since I recorded the last episode, which I keep
coming back to because apparently it's that's important to me.
In Trump's overwhelming desire to make sure that there is
only white men that run his situation sprinkle with a
few blonde girls, and his desire to make sure that
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we in no means even look in areas that are
diverse for expertise, to make sure that I'm not giving
no money to no programs that could possibly maybe a
little bit smell like or that it has any sort
(18:17):
of just older of something that goes against the things
that I stand for. I'm gonna stop it all and
I'm a defunded And to his credit, now I need
you to hear me. To his credit, because this is
something that I've said about that man a few times.
When he say he's gonna do something, he he.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Don't be joking about it. And and that's the weird part.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Like, Okay, I'm gonna go back to Kanye again when
he said, Kanye say I'm a god, and they say, who.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Do you think you are? Kanye say, I just told
you a god. Trump say I'm gonna fire all these
federal employees because they don't be rocking with my agenda,
and y'all was like, by you, I mean they're you know,
they work for the government. He's not gonna guys, He's
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not gonna fire federal employees because you need employees. You
can't politic These are jobs that aren't politicized. These are
jobs where you just work for you and he's like
prosecuting me. Oh, he's not gonna he's just messing around.
He's like, I just I just told y'all that's what
I was gonna do.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I don't understand what y'all don't understand the stupid little
clip I posted, well, not I posted, but the Cool
Zone team posted about taking Trump serious for the last episode.
I was like this to y'all, need to check this
man serious? When this man said I'm gonna figure out
how to run a third term, and y'all all going
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Oskins Constitution.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Like, I'm like, I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
This is my point. Hey, They was dragging me in
the comments. Y'all keep saying he's not gonna do that,
he can't do that. What are you talking about? You
don't understand that you can't do it.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
I'm like, did you hear what I was just saying
to y'all? How many times have.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
You said he can't do that, or he won't do that,
or he not gonna do that, and then he do it?
And then the thing is I keep looking at y'all
saying he said he was gonna do that. What I'm
so confused as to what is confusing you? This is
what he said he was gonna do. So I, for
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one take that man serious. Now I am not destroyed
by him, but that's partially because I'm not waiting for
ice agents to knock down my door. So when President
Trump decided he was gonna fire all these federal employees,
they were offered a resign now to be paid through September,
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and it stunned all the workers that received it. They
were like, so you're gonna fire me, but if I
just quit, you'll give me seven months pay. So some
of them were like, you could stay on for seven
months if you promised to quit, And they're like, what,
I'm fired and I'm not fired?
Speaker 1 (21:14):
What so you firing me, but you want me to
stay on you so you want me to train my replacement.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
But if a quit, you're gonna give me seven months pay?
Are you really gonna give me seven months pay? The
reason why you could ask that question is because don't
that sound like the Twitter takeover? Is that not exactly
what happened to Twitter? Well, if you quit, I'll let you.
I'll pay you through your time to make sure we
gets set up. Now, let me ask you this. Were
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they paid then?
Speaker 1 (21:43):
People wasn't paid, which leads me to this question, whose
idea was that dude? Eli got hands? Is Elon more
effective then I'm giving this man credit for. Is Trump just.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Take Elon's ideas and putting his name on it but
all of us can clearly see that this was Elon's idea?
Or is this just Elon running the Doge?
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Now?
Speaker 2 (22:09):
I did reading the Doge program that Elon was gonna
get rid of pennies and honestly, no notes. I mean,
what are we gonna do with pennies? They cost more
to make than their worth. So I mean, I feel you.
But how this man is able to wield his will
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on a person who seems to me like, don't listen
to nobody.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
I'm kind of impressed Elon got.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Now.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Believe it or not, the FBI has a reddit. I
don't know why that's so funny to me, but the
FBI got a reddit.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Now.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
On the FBI Reddit, they were talking about ways for
which to disguise your identity if you was going to
start snitching and leaking things about this transition right.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Now.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
What the Doze team is doing is something that was
reported by Okay, forgive me the Daily Beast, But they're
reporting on this. Elon Musk is threatening to fire the
employees who leak information as President Donald Trump unleash an
unprecedented chaos in government. Now, clearly the term unprecedented chaos.
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It's a bit biased, it's a bit inflammatory. Also, what's
happening On Sunday? A user posted on an anonymous operational
security reminder on Reddit's fbi form with the advice for
sharing information that can't be traced back to the source.
The post claim that must staffers are using fingerprinting on
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emails and notices as a way of identifying information leakers. Now,
this is essentially an email watermark, like adding a space
here or making a typo. There are similar subtle changes
to track leaks right on a post red. So what
that means is like a good way to know that
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I'm texting you is an arbitrary capital word. I don't
know why I do that.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
I just do.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
A ridiculous amount of spelling typos because a lot of
times i'm I'm thinking fast, then I'm typing so like
I'll send the thing, and then I realized this wasn't
clear that I'll send something else. So it's so disjointed
Sophie and then make fun of me all the time.
Every show description, Ian re writes, I apologize to miss Cronin,
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to mister Pulicky, mister Jeffrey. These were my English teachers.
They all said the same thing about me. This boy
is so smart. If he would just slow down so
they would know exactly who I was if I tried
to email about this. So Elon went ahead and XT
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with regards to the leakers, if in doubt they are
out right, meaning if I think maybe you was the
one leaking this, we just fired you. But it's like fam,
I'm finna get fired anyway. All I'm saying is Elon
got hands. I think I've answered the question of the show.
Do Elon got hands? And turns out the boy got hands?
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I knew we had finesse, I didn't think he had hands.
All right, Now, let's watch the other episode for the
rest of.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
This one, what's up all your little sucker MC's propagandha here, welcome.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
To twenty twenty five Editional Politics with pri Man twenty
twenty four, Like twenty twenty four had hands, ain't no
other way around it.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
There was a meme that came by my.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Social media that I was like, yeah, this is the
on there's a little like rudimentary, like late nineties computer
drawing of a guy about the box. He was like,
all right, I'm about to fight these thoughts. And then
on the bottom it's got him sitting down in the
corner of a ring, drinking his water saying, damn, brain
got hands. Now, I don't know how many of y'all
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that that deeply resonates with, where you like, I was
gonna fight all these negative thoughts, it gonna think positive,
but your brain was like, no, hey, your whole life
is trash and you never going out to anything. I
don't know if your brain be telling you that your
brain got hands twenty twenty four. Twenty twenty four was
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like what started off as so glorious. You know by
this point you have heard the full edition of the
State of the Blackness, and even in the State of
the Blackness, of all the great things of that happened. Also,
twenty twenty four had hands. I mean not to I
ain't even mention how horribly off key Alicia Keys saying
(27:52):
at the Super Bowl like had hands. The question is
do you know what I mean by half hands?
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Now?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
I feel like by this context, you should already know
what that means. Is like they punch hard, they fight well.
Some people like fighting, like enjoy the adrenaline of like
not in the angrily sense, but just in the contact,
the testosterone of it all that they enjoy contact sports
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like like fighting, and a lot of times those are
the people that get into you know, boxing or UFC
or kickboxing. Like my one of my cousins, I don't
know if I could call him a first cousin, is
he a second cousin. He's my grandmother's sister. He's my
dad's cousins child. But also our grandparents follow me are related,
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Like our grandfathers are brothers, but our grandmothers are sisters.
So like two sisters married two brothers.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
So he's like a double cut.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
I don't know what you call that, Like he liked
fighting like he and kickboxing like he's like he likes
it the only d smoke like they like they like it,
and he's good at it, like he's good. I I
don't like it. Now, I have all the testosterone that
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one would expect from a cisgendered heterosexual boy from the
East side, you know, east of the River Los Angeles like,
I got all that, but I don't like Merse like Merse,
Merks likes likes it, probably not anymore he's but either
(29:41):
way for me, I'm like, I don't like I don't
like it.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
I didn't like it. They don't like it.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Now.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Now, that don't mean I can't fight.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Somebody that can't fight somebody that just the technique is
all off. You're gonna get mopped because you're not like
you just don't know how to fight that person.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Don't have no hands.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Another way to say is like even when they when
they punch you, it don't hurt like this, just you
ain't got hands, like you don't. And usually the advice
for somebody that don't got hands is they should shut
their mouth. You're right like, Unfortunately, it's a lot of
people that talk a lot that ain't got hands, right like,
and when you when you understand at least if you
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came up the way I came up, like my daddy
would say, like mam, like, oh, folks, say you write
in a check with your mouth that your butt can't cash,
you know, So basically it's like, my dude.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
You you you you.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Talking like you know how to fight you can't. You
better be able to like, you know, damn it, like
back up your We better be able to back it up.
So you talk it like like you you have to
have hands. That's just a short way to say this,
like do we got hands?
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Like sneak got hands?
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Sometimes you find out the hard way of somebody got
hands or not. I found out my wife refer to
her by her prefix doctor al Mazara Goza petty got
hands because this is this is me confessing about my
spousal abuse. I am just kidding. I please, guys, I'm
just kidding. But she got hands. It's not it was
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from us like messing around and you know, just playfully
like she got hands. I was like, oh, I better
not ever actually make her mad because we was smiling
the whole time. But the question that makes this something
that we could talk about all her politics is now,
wait a minute, does Elon Musk have hands? So look
(31:51):
this big old smile on my face? Talk about because yo,
I think ya got hands? Now, hey, Elon fight. It
depends on the type of fight we talk about. What
I'm talking about is something obviously having to do with politics,
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and as you know, the premise of this show is.
You know, if you understand in a city living, you
understand politics. You get the way that the interactions between
how politicians communicate to us, the way they communicate.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
To each other. You've the tools for which you use
to broker power.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
This is just a refresher course for anybody who just
coming into season four. If you've survived the lives the
environments that I and a lot of my friends and
cohorts have survived, then you understand politics more than you
think when a person gets in power because of the
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way that our governmental system turns out to be set up.
Because as y'all know, with the system of checks and
balances and the three branches of government, it wasn't on paper,
ain't supposed to work this way, but we got a
strong man government, and with the electric boogoloo of Trump,
(33:19):
it means that it's getting even more strong man because
as we know, Trump's main thing is loyalty. Trump needs
to be the top g Trump gotta be nobody, you know.
He need to have the biggest shine, the biggest powered,
the most TV. But I need all my love homies
(33:40):
to be able to not just handle my light work,
but you need to be able to be as flashy,
as strong as dope as I am, but also loyal
to the top g like I need to know that.
Like you need to shine but not outshine me. But
if you're a boss, you got to surround yourself with
people that are boss like, right, but not too boss like,
(34:02):
because if you too boss like, then it's trouble in paradise. Now,
a lot of us who've been watching this, this bromance
between Elon Musk and Trump were predicting the inevitable, inevitable
power struggle. And the question that was coming up in
my mind is do Elon got hands like or is
(34:25):
Trump gonna do what he always does when somebody get
a little too much juice?
Speaker 1 (34:29):
You gone, I'm gonna get you out the org.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
I felt like that was the question that was eventually
about to about to hit us all you are because
at the end of the day, whether whether Naga wants
to believe it or not, a tech bro billionaire is
a strange bedfellow. It's a strange bedfellow, even stranger than
(34:55):
our history of oil tycoons being your bad fellow. That's
a weird crew to being because at some point your
loyalties are gonna split because money likes money. Now, I
feel like you don't need to be from the streets
to know that there's an inevitable which I mean, is
(35:18):
y'all paying attention, especially with old Luigi, an inevitable class
consciousness that is going to I mean again, I'm just
this is just my antent is it's going to be
in my mind. The story of twenty twenty five is
a class consciousness for two reasons. One because it's what
(35:40):
Trump is counting on. I mean, he he's a nativist,
you know. Uses I'm not gonna use too many of
the big old words because I need to get to
the point I'm trying to get to, which is the
question is it turns out or not?
Speaker 1 (35:52):
The question to answer that turns out? Elon got hands.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
But you know, with the nativist populist you know, America first,
taking care the little guy type beat that Trump ran on,
while at the same time right in your face having
multiple billionaires right next to you. And the thing about
these billionaires that are right next to you, they mask
off about it. They like, now we rich, we just
(36:17):
we just be using our money to help y'all, And
while full well knowing they not doing it like that's.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Thereaeness of it all.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
The question only for me was where is the riff
gonna start? Where is this power struggle really gonna be
because at the end of the day, in my mind,
I'm like billionaires going billionaire, right, and Trump gets to
the money. And remember, like, even if you was convincing
these lower educational lower not as a disc I'm just
(36:53):
saying as a factual point, but lower ses Americans that
Trump is your guy by saying I'm gonna stop immigration,
I'm gonna stop you know what I'm saying, these foreign
workers taking your jobs.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
I'm gonna stop this invasion.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
At the border, right, And like with that, at the helm,
where is the beef gonna show up?
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Where is the power come struggle gonna happen?
Speaker 2 (37:18):
I thought at some point it was probably gonna be
over popularity.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
And that's one.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Way that that Trump is being trolled right now by
them Food's calling Elon president Elon right, So I thought
that I was like, oh, there's the crack right there,
and this was gonna get Elon ejected.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
But you know why I thought.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
That is because I thought Elon ain't have I thought
to me, Elon in here about his money and the
reason why he lined up with Trump like this was
just for him. I'm thinking, I get what he doing this.
This shit is pragmatic, like I'm on line with this
big dog to get what I need for what I'm
doing to work, work, work with my own program. That's
(37:59):
why it made sense to me. He know he can't
be president, he's not born here. The riff would happen
over there, over his popularity. Turns out it was over immigration,
and it turns out Elon got hands and we talk
(38:20):
about it next.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
All right, So what I'm talking about is.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
H one B visas. Now, there's multiple types of visas.
If you're coming into this country, if you're immigrating legally
into this country, right, you have certain types of visas.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
There's an H one and an H two.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Elon got on his platform that he purchased right with
this banger of the quote, the reason I'm in America,
along with many other critical people who built SpaceX, Tesla
and hundreds of others that made America strong.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Is because of H one B. Take a big step
back and fuck yourself in the face. What a weird
way to say that.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Anyway, I will go to war on this issue, the
likes of which you cannot possibly comprehend.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
What the hell is he talking about. H one B
is a type of.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Visa that one gets for what they call highly skilled workers. Now,
I'm gonna read some stuff here for you, y'all, for
you to know exactly what I mean by that.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
So, an H one B is a category of a
temporary work authorized category which authorizes the employment of professionals
who will work in a specialty occupation position.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
And the H one B eligibility requires an offer of
employment from a US employer in a specialty occupation right now,
the USCIS defines specialty occupation as a position which requires
a theoretical and practical application of specialized knowledge right and
(40:42):
required at minimum to have a bachelor's degree in a
specialty for entry of profession right now. There's only a
limited number of these available for in a fiscal year. Now,
the way to get those, because there's only a limited
number of them is a.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
Lottery, believe it or not, peak the name out of that.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Hopefully you get to thank And since there's a like
I said, there's a lotteries since there's only a limited number. Okay,
if the name Forum National on an H one B
petition has ever held an H one B status right
within the last six years, then the position is subject
to like the H one B cap. Right now, a
(41:25):
total of eighty five thousand CAP subject H one b's
are available per government fiscal year. The cap related H
one b's are allocated like this. There's fifty seven thousand
available all qualifying be beneficiaries. There's twenty seven thousand available
to graduates holding US master's degrees or higher. Meaning you
(41:47):
from another country, you came here for school, got a
master's degree. Now you want to work here, but remember
you don't live here. So right now you was on
a student visa and then after that you got to
switch to a work visa. Now that you've got a
master's degree, should be able to stay here and work
the country that you've been going to school in, right,
but you only stay for a certain amount of time
and then, which is so weird. There's eight thousand available
(42:09):
for nationals of Singapore and Chile.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
This just throw them countries it right now.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Although the law does not specifically say what it considers
to be specialty occupations, again, they're defined as specialized knowledge
that takes a bachelor's degree or higher. You know, when
you call into an it thing and it's a I mean,
it's a trope. Now and the person on the phone
(42:40):
has a thick Indian accent, that's an H one B.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
Visa. You work for an American company.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
A lot of times the company has a footprint here,
but they're allowed to hire foreign skilled workers based on
this visa to work for this company.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
Now Elon is.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Saying, I don't care what the hell you ran on
American jobs, factory workers.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
I don't care about none of that. I don't care
what JD. Van said.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
I don't care. I don't care about none of that.
Fuck yourself in the face. All care about Billy Bob
and little baby Billy. I don't care about none of
them in your little heartland of America. I ain't even
from America.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
I need people that can do this job. And this
is why I'm here. I came to America to get
to the Yams fam and I'm gonna get to people
I need to get you know why, because I get
to the bread. But back with the same thing, I
don't care what you ran on. So now Trump in
this position because the other side of his crew because
he wanted to keep the billionaires because they keep the
(43:55):
bread coming in. The billionaires. Is like, I don't care
about your immigration shit. Do you know the H two
H H two visa is that's to be able to
work in agriculture. So right now, currently, at this very moment,
according to the New York Times, Trump is offering over
(44:17):
a thousand h two visas for his vineyard for the
Trump Wine Vineyard fifteen bucks an hour.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
But he running on I'm here for the locals.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
So you got people like Steven Miller and Steven Bannon
and Steve Bannon who've been trying to say this for
years that H one be as a scam. He's like, look,
you not hireing Americans, and the people you bringing in
you can.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
Pay them far less. So what's happening is the same
stuff that we say about Margaret farm workers is the
same thing they saying is happening in the tech world
in Silicon Valley. I could hire these foreign workers because
I gotta pay them as much. They can't leave the
city because you only allowed to beware this particular they
can't go nowhere. These people that come work for you
(45:05):
on an H one B visa. They can't apply nowhere
else because they would lose their visa. You gotta be here.
You gotta work for their company. And I got you
for three years, and you probably most skilled than everybody
else in.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
Here, and I could pay you less, and you don't
necessarily gotta live here, so I ain't even got to
pay you an American living wage. Steve Bannon is like
fam I thought we was here for us.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
I thought we was what what is we doing? So
this means you got the maga wing? That's like my
g my g I thought we was building a wall.
What happened to the wall?
Speaker 2 (45:54):
I thought we was about American jobs, which I hope
you hear the subtext, which is like, oh, I mean
y'all could turn a wrench. I don't mind you turning
a wrench, but you can't work in management. Y'all cost
too much. But I definitely hire these foreign workers. I
(46:20):
ain't got to pay them as much, and they kind
of know what they're doing. See the ill thing about
I mean, you say what you will. There's two types.
Speaker 1 (46:32):
Of races to be.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
There's the pragmatic races and then there's the principled racist.
That principled racist was how Oregon, when it was a
whites only state, didn't allow slavery. They said, we don't.
We want to be a free state. We don't allow
(46:56):
slavery in our in our state. But they said that
because they just didn't even want to live next to
black people. And then there's the pragmatic ones that's like, well,
we here for the bread. I don't I don't care
if you from a trash country, if you could do
the job, like I really don't. I mean, if you're
(47:19):
making me money, I'll pay you whatever you need to
pay because I'm here for the bread.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
I ain't gotta like you. I don't even gotta look
at you. I'm here for the bread.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
So it creates this again, this class consciousness I'm talking about.
I'm like, all right, uh, are you gonna.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
What's up?
Speaker 2 (47:41):
Like, so we're gonna do this billionaire thing, because if
we do the billionaire thing, guess what, nothing changes.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
You voted, You're like you ran on the you ran
for truy. Nothing changed because he's still gonna get foreign workers.
I thought you was running like nothing gonna change. You
run a billionaire, you run a billionaire gambit if he
don't run a billionaire Gabbitt, and he do the nativist thing.
He lose the bread because the billionaires had the most
(48:10):
power of what you're gonna do, what you're gonna do.
There's trouble in paradise. Now.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
Will they be able to solve H one B and
this visa, this legal immigration visa situation in any time soon? No,
They've been talking about it since the freaking Bush administration.
You're not finna figure this out. Some of you may
push back and say, he wasn't arguing about legal immigration,
he was arguing about illegal immigration. Well, you know, asylum
(48:40):
seekers are legal immigration also, So in a lot more
going on there.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
Now.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
The pushback to H one B is as we've can
even hear Steve Bannon say, which is like you're discriminating
against US citizens. And matter of fact, Facebook had to
settle a lawsuit where Facebook settled a claim. I'm reading
this from immigrationhistory dot org.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
They had to settle in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
They had to settle a claim with the Department of
Justice that they discriminated against US workers in favor of
temporary visa holders, and the company paid four point seventy
five million in civil penalty and set aside nine point
five million for eligible victims. Another one of the pushbacks is, yeah,
(49:38):
like the slave wages things. It's like, you can't if
you're here on one of them visas, you can't go nowhere.
You can't move right, and I don't have to pay
you American level wages. You just happy to be in
the building. So Trump, who has been telling us for
(50:02):
the last eight years that immigration is the problem elon
jump up and say, hold up, but I like this
type of immigration.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
Do he got hands?
Speaker 2 (50:15):
Turns out absolutely because what Trump said was, and I quote,
I've always liked the H one program. I love those visas,
I've used them.
Speaker 1 (50:30):
Which is not necessarily true. He didn't always love it.
Speaker 2 (50:35):
He used to say he was gonna end it, and
then turned his tail in twenty nineteen because at first
he tried to stop it, but then later he was like, look, dude,
if you graduate, if you're a foreign citizen and you
graduate from a US university, you should immediately get a
green card. That's one thing Trump say. Now, so he
at this point, I mean, he on the billionaire side. Now,
(50:56):
the question to me is like, who do that?
Speaker 1 (51:00):
Surprise you? Don't you? Did you who who? Who? Who?
Speaker 2 (51:11):
Didn't expect this man to go where the bread is?
I know I did I expect him to go where
the bread is. But the question is, you know, when
worst come to worst, do his people come first? Which
asked by the Great profits Havoc and prodigy of mob Deep,
(51:33):
do your people come first? I mean, you've been saying
that for a year and a half. It sounded like
the bread come first, and it sound like sounds like
Elon got hands. Now is this just a silly little squirmish,
a little food fight among you know, restlessness within the house.
Speaker 1 (51:53):
Maybe.
Speaker 2 (51:54):
What's crazy though, which is really blowing my mind is
Trump has made the state that like, oh he not
changing the h one visas? And nobody mad at Trump?
They mad at Elon. This man got a death grip.
Nobody mad Ain't nobody blaming Trump for that. They are
mad at Elon, Like Elon, why'd you tell him that?
Speaker 1 (52:16):
Bro?
Speaker 2 (52:18):
So everybody turned everybody mad at Elon for saying the obvious,
even though Trump the only one that could press played.
Speaker 1 (52:24):
But y'all not mad at Trump. Y'all mad at Elon. Now.
Speaker 2 (52:26):
The last point I'm making this is that Elon ain't
in the Congress. So no matter what any of them
are talking about, any policy, it's got to get through
the Congress. Now, obviously, Trump is in a situation where
you know, his team is up, so it's very possible
(52:48):
that the things for which he might desire to pull
to pull off it becomes that much more easier.
Speaker 1 (52:55):
However, what I have found.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
Is no matter who's in charge, when you start messing
up the money, it seems as though nothing really changes that.
And then also my second last thing is this may
not be the only little tiff that Elon and Trump have.
(53:21):
Who knows, or maybe maybe they're absolutely in love, who knows.
What we know is we can't really predict much right now.
I mean, the nigga's not even president yet. Like let's
remember that he's not even there yet. Well, actually, by
the time this comes out, he is. The point I'm
saying is it's only like day two, So prediction as
(53:42):
to like how this stuff's gonna go later is silly.
Speaker 1 (53:44):
But at the end of the day, but.
Speaker 2 (53:49):
I tell you this, if you ain't figure it out
in this situation, you should have known when that man
bought Twitter, Elon got hands, he gonna.
Speaker 1 (54:06):
He gonna do what he gonna do.
Speaker 3 (54:10):
M hm.
Speaker 1 (54:13):
Hm h m hm h m hm. I just wonder
where this fight gonna go.
Speaker 2 (54:29):
I just wonder how long it's gonna take, how you know,
if they gonna if he's gonna continue to, you know,
throw hands.
Speaker 1 (54:38):
What's y'all think? What y'all think?
Speaker 2 (54:43):
Anyway, just for a little bit of history and you
know your education, the H two So the H two
visus you could go to like Immigranthistory dot org. So
H two that's the one that where Mike farm workers
come from. So the H two visa program was built
(55:05):
on a World War two era arrangements that was established
by I don't know if you knew this, the War
Food Administration. Did you know that that was a thing
that brought guest workers from the Bahamas, Jamaica, Barbados, and
other Caribbean islands to labor under contracts similar to those
established by the US Mexico Bracero program bakhettal through the
(55:31):
nineteen forties, thousands of Caribbean guest workers. Did you know
this landed on the East Coast farms from Florida to
the northeast. The nineteen fifty two Immigration and Nationality Act
provided the statutory language to make these arrangements permanent with
non immigrant visa categories, so it's a work visa right.
(55:55):
Unlike previous government to government labor programs, the H two
visa program allowed US employers to recruit workers follow me
directly from any country once the Attorney General accepted petitions,
which gave employers direct control over their guest workers VISUS.
Speaker 1 (56:19):
Yo, I need you to understand. While you mad at immigrants,
your government set up the system. I'm just this is
just what happened the end of the day. Like I said,
turns out Elon got hands.
Speaker 2 (56:42):
So while I was thinking that at some point Elon
was gonna feel a little too froggy and Trump was
gonna throw hands in him, turns out Elon said, hold up, homie,
hold up, you ain't gonna mess with my meal. You
ain't finna get in between my meal. Homie, keep in
(57:06):
mind the onlyest reason I got behind you. What's so
that my meals stay right? And I got hands on it?
Speaker 1 (57:21):
Well?
Speaker 2 (57:21):
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