April 24, 2024 • 44 mins
When you order at a Jamaican restaurant, make sure you have 4 choices in mind because 100% they won't have your first choice. And for some reason I feel like our democracy has become like ordering at a Jamaican restaurant.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Call zone media. It is a long standing, well known fact.
And when I say fact, I mean fact not This
is uncontested, undisputed.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
It is a fact.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
If you go to a Jamaican restaurant, they're not going
to have your first three choices. It's just understood. There's
another thing that's understood. It's that well, let me say
it like this, here's my advice. If you're going to
a Jamaican restaurant, pack a snack cause you're you are
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going to be waiting for a long time. Just and
they they just don't they just they just move at
they pace. It's an island pace, which I don't understand
what you're so worried about.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
We don't.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
They don't want to have no conversation with you, Like
it's weird. You know, I don't need no greetings. This
is a transaction. Like we're not friends, we're not family.
We make good food. You want to food. If you
want fast food, you go somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
That's it. Like, I don't what you are. You just
we're not friends. Just order your food.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Now. What's also understood about Jamaican culture Jamaican restaurants is
if you come like open minded, not like and curious
if you don't know what you're doing, but you don't
come with a sort of arrogance like you know, let's
say you you dumb and you venture out Kingston or
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you know, Montigo. I think a lot of like Caribbean
cultures like that period, like and you're just but you're
showing a type of respect and you want to learn.
If you're just like, hey, uh, this advice is more
for white people, like for black folks, they could be
a lot more judgmental.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
But if you just like, yo, hey, I've never had
Jamaican food.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
I don't know what to order, but I want but
I like spicy stuff. Like I'm down to try anything,
you know, I'm just I'm just down, like I want
to learn more. Oftentimes, unless there's like a rush, like
if it's a rush, that's different, dey'd bee like why
I you know what you want?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
You know, like it'll be annoying.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
But a lot of times, like especially if it's a
small enough spot, they might be like, oh that's dope, Okay,
Yeah you like fish?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
You're like, yeah, you know what do you like? I
like fish?
Speaker 1 (02:20):
You know? You try to curry golp? You know, Yeah, right,
you know, and then they'll just like show you, especially
if you on the either you was like, yo, I
got all the time in the world. I'm going owhere
like I'm down for whatever, like teach me everything. Clearly,
I'm pasty white, I've never done this. I'll just I'm
down whatever. I'm not scared. Let's go, you know what
I'm saying. Then, like a lot of times, there'll be
a respect for that. Now, they ain't gonna smile at you.
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Ain't nobody go you ain't gonna get them type of
pleasantries until you eat something super spicy and they watch
it suffer. But most of the time it's like, oh,
it's cool.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
You know, we like this dude.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
But the the one thing I could guarantee you walk
in and you.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Say, how you doing, man, let me get the oxtail
on a how do Oh?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
All right, okay, let's see man, let's get the all right,
let's do the soft fish.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I know how that.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Oh all right, how about let's see y'all got Let
me see y'all got the curry gold and curry gold,
curry gold. Wait, hold on, jay Don, you're not carry gold.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
I know how that. You're like, oh, damn, Okay, what
y'all got? What do you got?
Speaker 1 (03:23):
They're like, yah, menu and if it foods a point
at the menu or the point at like where the
what looks like an impanada? Right like it kind of
looks like that she just got like rice on peas
inside of it, or like chicken, it's a it's a patty.
They call it patty, like chicken patty, beef patty whatever. Right, yeah, menu, And.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
You're just like, bro, you just shot down.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
The three so you're gonna have to go four to
five items down the menu.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Foe.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
You could pick something and they just expect you to
just it's just it is what it is. This is
what's on the menu. We had it, I mean maybe
we had it, maybe we didn't. Maybe it's all out.
The point is ana, how that they not gonna have
your choices? That men, you gonna be down to like
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two or three things because you can always go to
another restaurant. Hey, you gonna wait, they gonna go at
their pace. You're gonna sit there and you're gonna eat
when we give you. I know how, they're not gonna smile.
Get it.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
You ain't going for the customer service.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
You going because the shrimp or the lobster or the
cocoa bread slack, because it's delicious and it is what
it is, and this is the place we eating guanguan
And I feel like that's the twenty twenty four election
hood politics. Y'all welcome, welcome, welcome, Let me get the
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rights on pisa. I mean there's like skits, Like obviously
when you're doing skits, there's an exaggeration, but you know
these skits come from something like I just don't know
what it is, but they just not.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Gonna have what you want.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Like you got to have like three and four choices,
which seems like a better way to run our politics,
right that you can have your first choice, right, but
you don't want your choice to be binary. Who likes
a restaurant unless the restaurant is so good at what
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they do, so flawless, so perfect, right that they got
two things.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
On the menu.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
There's a spot called Little Squartro Milpas down in San
Diego in Chicano Park. It opens at eleven and they
close when they out of food. You get a to
maalere Hale's dei Eros or Takethos, but that's what you're
there for only. Now, if you're a vegetarian, I guess
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this ain't your restaurant. If you vegan, I guess this
ain't your restaurant. But they got sense enough to not
put it on the menu.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
This is what it is.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
This is what you signed up for. So there's that right.
On the other hand, the Cheesecake Factory menu, the novel,
that's a whole other situations. I don't know if I
won't that either, Like, I mean, that's a word scramble,
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the Cheesecake Factory menu.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
And it's a book. Fam Like y'all really got this.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
I just feel like people just walked in and suggested stuff.
Y'all was like, yeah, why not, let's just put on
the menu where there's anything you can order cheffel pull
it up.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Now.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I don't know if I want my politics to look
like that, but I will say the idea of saying,
which is the thing I'm getting at ultimately in this
is we've gotten to a place now in this twenty
twenty four election, to where essentially, in reality, we got
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two options on the menu, and if you want anything
other than these two options, you basically at a Jamaican restaurant.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I know how that.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
And you like, but I'm seeing it on the menu.
I'm seeing a Cornell Wes on the menu. I'm seeing
a Dean Phillips on the menu. Even hell, there might
be a mary Anne Williamson who just you just finally
was like, nah, we don't have that and we never
had it or not. I'm seeing an RFK on the menu.
And these may not even even be your first choice.
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These may not even be the choices that you actually want.
You just not really happy with the first two. And
what all the polls are saying, and you don't even
need to poll it.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
We all know. Don't nobody like them?
Speaker 1 (08:14):
For the things you do got, don't nobody like the
only two choices you have on the menu.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
It's just the only things y'all got.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
This is not what I ordered, fam this say what
I came to this restaurant or you telling me this
or my only choice?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
You telling me my only choice?
Speaker 1 (08:31):
You walked in and was like, yo, let me get
a Let me get a functioning adult without any felony
charges that maybe has more than thirty years of life inspectancy.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Anahadats what about this? We anahadats, You're like this can't be.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
This can't be our only choice. You probably thinking, like
I'm thinking.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
How sway? How is it in a institution where we
get to choose our leaders.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
That we the only option is two leaders that nobody won't. Now, obviously,
when I say nobody, clearly is not nobody.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Somebody won't.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
These people Trump consistently pulled at forty seven percent. Now,
remember when he first won. I mean, the man only
had eleven percent. It was just a ton of people
in off in the thing. But you not gonna break
his fan base. But forty seven percent isn't a winning
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That's not half. That's not a winning thing unless, and
here's where it get bonkers, unless the person he competing with.
Does the person he competing with have fifty three percent? No,
Joe don't got fifty three percent. But if Joe has
any I hope to having fifty three percent, he's got
to take.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
All the other votes.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
And this is why people get so pressed about third
party candidates. This is what it means to split the vote,
because in our realistic situation, it's that the alternative choices.
And I hate to say it like that, but that's
just how a situation works. The alternative choices are going
to snipe off Democratic votes. Again, You're not chunking away
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of that forty seven percent. You chunking away at Joe's
at Joe's possible fifty three. You chunking away at that
because Trump. Trump then broke the Republicans like and in
the few the twenty percent of the independence.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
That's that's who Biden is fighting for. But like they
know if they got other options.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
This is why people try to press you about voting
for other options and say, well, if I vote for
a third party, I'm just guaranteeing the other guy get in.
I mean, this is why. This is where that comes from.
Do I think that that's legit? I think that that's
why in practice, But I'll tell you what I really
think at the end of this episode. But for real, though,
how did we get here? So listen, this show has
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this episode. Think of this episode most episodes is think
of it as we sitting on the stove, we sipping
whiskey or apple juice, whatever you into smoking a stove,
smoking some herb or not smoking at all, or either way,
this show big Homie putting you on most of the time.
That's what this show is now today, I'm just one
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of y'all. Man, I'm listen, I'm mostly venting. This is
us after work at happy hour, talking cheesemade masa, just
talking shit about our coworkers. That's what today is about, Okay.
I mean I do have like one thing to tell
you at the end, like I said.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
But I just I live here too.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
And here's the reality, guys, Just to bring it all together,
it's really not our only choice. We have a system
that in practice which is very different than in design,
and one could argue that it actually is the design.
Its way to maintain power is that I convince you
if you order off the menu, if you order something else,
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you are going to eventually guarantee the one you don't want.
So if I am, you know, stark raving Republican, and
I think that Trump is absurd that if I voted
for a Nikki Haley, I'm basically guaranteeing Biden because I'm
splitting our votes in the other way around, like if
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you vote for a more progressive person, you're guaranteeing Trump
coming in. Now that I am convinced that that is
again what practically ends up happening. But I wonder if
it really has to be this way. And if you
keep saying that, then and it's obviously going to keep
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being that. It's one of those like our belief in
it makes it real. If that y'all following me, it sucks.
But listen again, I'm just here with you talking trash
about our coworkers at happy hour. But that being said,
that is the thing that is very magical about American politics.
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There's a lot of stuff that ain't really real. It's
just the fact that we think it's real makes it real.
That's how constructs work. Maybe I'll do a whole show
on that at some point. Anyway, I'm today, I'm going
to give you some more background on some of the
other choices on the menu.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
And the idea that like.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
I'm going to talk about RFK because you got to
talk about him. I'm going to talk about Cornell West,
And I want to talk about Mary Anne Philip Marianne Williamson,
mainly because okay, she's dropped out, But I think that
there is something there. I think here's here's here, here's
here's me not doing the hood politics stick. This is
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just me being a citizen with you. We are just
so desperate for another voice, for another option on the menu.
That it's almost like if you just give us just
a little bit of sanity, just a little taste, will
take all the other shit, Like, well, I'll take it.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
You know. It's it's a. It's a.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
It's the it's the girl or the person who just
been dating just trash dudes or just just trash people.
So if you meet somebody that just shows you the
just the bare minimum of respect, just just the person,
just the slightest bit of care and affection towards you,
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like a person who says, I could this is great,
Like he don't actually live with his baby's mama like this,
then this is good?
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Like fam, that's that's the bar. That's the bar. And
we just we have been beaten to a place to
where we will.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Take all of and I'm just like we the royal
We we will take all of the crackpot conspiracy theorists
that is RFK because the brother y'all listen, we're gonna
go over his policies, which are some of them are decent,
but it's sprinkled with just pandemic like absolute you are
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out of your mind, conspiracy theory pilled but I'll take
it because you understand big pharma and you're willing to
say something about that, like just little things like that
where it's just like we're just so desperate for another voice.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
It just please tell me.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
You have more on this menu than just the side
of cocoa rice.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Let's get into it, all right, we're back now.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Please understand, the profiles I'm about to give you are
just almost criminally thin, like, do not This is in
no way comprehensive. Do not, y'all, listen, do not take
this these things I'm about to tell you as deep
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dodges because they are not. What they are are profiles
and other options and ultimately a case for you know,
ranked voting in a way that so much any other
things in our democracy actually exist in And just guys, man,
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the two party systems, it just it just it broke
us and it just sucks. And I don't I'm not
smart enough to figure out an answer as to like
how to get us out of this death spiral. I
don't know, because if I did, I wouldn't be podcasting.
I'd be a billionaire because I would definitely sell it.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Now.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
First off, though she's dropped out, let's talk about the
rose water and charged crystals of it all.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Miss Maryann Williamson.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Now I'm being silly about that, but she got her
original star power from finally landing a best selling book
called Return to Love. Before that, she wrote this joint
called the Mystic Jesus. So if you were somewhat faith
based but kind of had a little woo will about you,
you understood Jesus to be something different than the bully
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white evangelical conquering just bully that a lot of America
sees Jesus as you may come from a tradition that's
a little more again about Jesus being a mystic that's
worried about much more of the spiritual, the inner piece,
you know, the being. And a lot of times the
churches you came from are either you're you're completely turned
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off by the esoteric or anything like that because it's witchcraft,
or you're only wrapped up with the hyper pentecostal moving
of the spirit. You know you want somebody it's like
a little more mystic, right. So this was a number
one best seller, like this is back in ninety seven.
It's called Return to Love, a Return to Love, and
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it's arguing that how we can become a miracle worker
by accepting God and by the expression of love in
our daily lives. Right, So, whether it's mystic pain or relationships, career,
or health, right.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Love is the potential force, you know.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
So she's coming from this very centered So anybody who's
in like this spiritual health and wellness world was already
up on her right now.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
The the draw.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
From her is the fact that most people that feel
like that usually have an aversion of politics.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
It's just so icky, you know, you just.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Because you think that like the things that you want
are so far away from being possible, or that you know,
the like I mean, I was guilty of this as
a kid too, where it would be like you know,
I'd be I'd be chasing after a girl and she
would be like, now you more like marriage material? Like
you you too nice? Like I don't want you ever
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been told you was too nice? So you don't you can't,
you can't get to the yams because you too nice,
you know what I'm saying. Like you you're a keeper.
I think it is a lot of ways like that.
Besides a lot of her sort of woo woo kind
of mystic talk. What turned most of America off, because
most of America ain't gone to therapy is the fact
that it's like you two nice, like this arena you finished,
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step in like they finish, eat you alive, like ma'am,
you know, but we still like how you talk. Now,
what are some of the specifics that's not just all
this she is she actually has some very enticing positions.
And again, because your men, you only got two options.
You keep telling me you ain't got nothing else, right,
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and this the other thing you got is like, well damn,
let me, let me. I mean, you could convince me
that the steam rights is the most delicious thing here, because.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
That's all that's my only other option.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Now she of this board, unless you're not talking about Cornell,
which is different, but like she pulls the progressive thing
on Gaza, She's like, obviously this is atrocious. These are
these are things that obviously should not happen, you know,
And and just if you don't know, like this is
the second time she's ran for president, right, she's already
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been on Oprah Winfree, you know, she ran for Congress
and Cali as an independent. But either way it didn't work, right,
She believes in a universal health care system, emphasizes the
need for it. Oh wow, how about healthier food, right,
water and air and a less stressful lifestyle, saying that
our current economics system hires the probability of sickness like food, dug. Yeah,
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you know what I'm saying, Like our work week, the
necessities of being able to just like, oh, I don't know,
pay the rent probably means.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
We gonna get sick more.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
You feed us plastic food, you know, with no nutrients
in it.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
The water ain't pure, the air is toxic.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Maybe that should be a part of our understanding of
health care. That makes a lot of sense to me.
She also wants to create what she's calling a Department
of Peace to suppress violence and address the root cause
domestically and internationally. Right, She has this more like listen, listen,
holistic approach to policy, and it's underscored. I'm quoting this
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from Al Jazeera, underscored from her soft spoken, guru like persona. Now,
the problem is people don't be owned that woo woo stuff,
So people just don't take her serious. Right. There was
a clip from twenty nineteen when she ran against When
she was trying to run against Trump. Right when she
was saying after a primary debate that she would harness
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love to beat the president the bear President Donald Trump
in his campaign of fear. Then there was some stuff
that came out, you know, on Politico about her having
an abusive culture inside of campaign, and people were saying, like, god,
she rerates people often. You know, all those things started happening,
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things that come with your star kind of like shooting up.
You know, you're gonna get people saying that there are
things wrong about you. Right, she's stating the bare minimum
that there should be a cease fire in Gaza, you
know what I'm saying. She's like questioning this idea of
like this unwavering support to Israel life. She like, yo, unwavering,
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Like you're telling me there's nothing they could do that
would make you You see how desperate we are for
somebody to just say something that regular, right, that like
undying like unwavering support.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Guys, you tried to so there's nothing they could do
that would make you change your mind. Nothing, twenty thousand
Palestinians dead.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Nothing, She says, I understand Israel's need to slay the monster,
but this military action is only feeding it. That's I mean,
come on, right, Like that's rooted in research and factual.
So she's like progressive on health care. Like I said,
y'all got to dig in. She progressive on health care.
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She thinks that healthcare should have a holistic approach and
that maybe if we were you know, more stricter on
the foods we allowed ourselves to eat, you know, maybe
cleaned up some air, maybe add some climate stuff, then
the necessity of so much you know, health care coverage
wouldn't be that because I mean, I mean, god damn.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
On the other hand, she.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Want to put together a Department of peace and listen,
I'm not making fun of her. I'm just saying this
is why don't nobody take her serious? Cause it's like
where your claws at Like this we there's a belief that,
like this system you're going into is gonna eat you alive.
Now go to her website, Okay, get more deep into
what I'm talking about. Like I said, these are cursory
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surface scraping things.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
But it's on the menu. It's just it's on the menu.
It just don't nobody order it. So they like that.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
So the stuff she talking, I mean that ain't gonna
pull no Trump votes, right you you pulling, that's you
playing the left of the Democrats, like you pulling Biden votes.
That's again, that's the argument next to brother Cornell West,
who is also running. Now here's the thing, guys, we
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already know why y'all not gonna serve him up. Why
why you're not gonna add him? Keep him on the menu.
Just look at the dude.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
I'm just I'm speaking reality.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Mark ain't gonna put no man like him in the office,
which sucks because in in my opinion, Cornell got the
juice multi hyphenated. As an activist, he would say justice
is what love looks like in public, he says. A
lover of music, I'm a blues man in the life
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of the mind, I'm a jazz man in the world
of ideas. As a scholar, deep education requires an habitual
vision of greatness. I mean he channeled all he checks
all the boxes for like a black man.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
You can't lead to people if you don't love the people.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
He speaks with that kind of thing thang, you can't
save the people if you don't serve the people. He
got that kind of rhythm in the way that he talks.
He's a scholar, public theologian, right, a philosopher, and just
understands the concept of justice. But what the concept of
justice calls for is a dismantling of the system we
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have now. Right, So how like that, my friend, is
where it becomes so much more complicated. See, the organism
ain't designed to support this type of superbug. How can
never kanez a chant down Babylon from a Bible scholars. So,
like I said, here goes platform. You go to the website,
see it yourself. Economic justice. So my first step is
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to abolished poverty, abolish hopelessness.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Oh word, you just finish end it right.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Establish a federal public banking institutions to fund public infrastructure
and green reconstruction.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Sure that'd be great. Establish a universal basic income.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
See these What I'm trying to tell you is people
looking at this man and it's like, nigga, are you
trying to build Waconda cus like, And here's the thing, Yes,
that's what he trying to say, Nigga, we don't. It
don't have to be this way. The problem is it's
coming out of black lips. He ain't saying nothing more
revolutionary than Bernie well, I guess he is in some ways,
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but like y'all ain't even want to hear it out
of Bernie's lips. I just we in a world that like, listen,
you can't tell these white people the truth.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Now, y'all, I'm just playing. I'm messing around.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
There's a movie coming out, I know it's out by now,
The Society of Magical Negroes, and the premise is this.
So the phrase magical Negroes coined by Spike Lee. It
was this idea of like this movie character's character in
in the movies that are so integral to the plot,
but they have no actual background, like there's no they
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have no history. They just kind of PLoP up in
the movie with no beginning and they just they just
got it there, like but somehow save the story like
driving Miss Daisy, like you know, where does Nigga come from?
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Like this is the magical Negro, you feel me? That's it.
So he coined the phrase.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
And then but then sometimes the magical negro is the
guy that's like, hey, you know, well, if you just well,
when the meteor is coming to earth, like if y'all
would just put this formula in, it would oh nobody.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Oh okay.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
You know, the og asked the little homie, like, what's
the most dangerous animal in the world, and the.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Guy goes the sharks. He goes, No, it's white people
when they feel uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Because when they feel a slightly uncomfortable, a little bit nervous,
bad things happen to the world. When you feel when
they feel the least bit challenged. You understand I'm saying,
when they see success happen to anybody else. So the
Society of Magical Negroes what they do is they assess
(29:20):
the feeling of threat that white people have and magically
do what they gotta do to make them feel comfortable
as to save the world. So it's satire, it's supposed
to be absurd, but there's a critique going on here,
and the critique is the idea that specifically as black people.
(29:42):
But you can stress this stretch this to not just
white people but dominant culture because obviously, again guys, it's satire.
We're not talking about every single white person that ever lived, Like,
come on, like, no, we's smarter than that.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
No, I'm smarter than that.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
We're talking about the institution of dominant culture, which here
just happens to break along racial lines, right, it just does. Now,
we spend a lot of our time as people of
color making sure that white folks ain't nervous, making sure
that like we kind of like just kind of placate
(30:18):
and not be too much of ourselves, cause when they
get nervous.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
January sixth has happened.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Too much can go wrong if white people feel uncomfortable. Right,
So we do a lot of our team you know,
I don't you know, And these are things that you practice,
looks as as a young black man, these are things
you practice. It's like, listen, you gotta you can't wear
the outfit you was gonna wear when you're gonna be
around a lot of the white people. You can't talk
as loud as you was gonna talk when you be
around a lot of these white people.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Make them nervous.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
There are things that I remember I used to always
have to do, even walking home, like to make sure
that this white lady who's about to cross me, you know,
she gonna clinch her purse if me and a homies
like making sure that we like, okay, let me make sure,
like how what do I do to make her feel comfortable?
Speaker 2 (31:02):
To make sure that she know so she don't call
the police.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
There are things that we kind of have done, whether
it's like if you speak another language, just making sure,
oh man, you know, they getting urd Like white people
get scared when we speak in our own land. They
think we're talking about them. So like you gotta like,
either let's talk later, or you know, do what you
gotta do to make them feel comfortable. You know what
I'm saying, Because it's like, because when they feel threatened,
genocides happen, you know.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
So, So the issue with Cornell West.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Nigga, even though that's not what he's saying. He's saying,
my movement is love, right, it don't matter. He be
making white people feel uncomfortable. That's that's the problem. You
can't make white people feel uncomfortable with American nigga. Now,
some of y'all may think that makes him the perfect candidate, right,
(31:50):
He's he's hated by the any establishment, like the democratic
establishment can't stand him. He's reviled among the academics because
he called Harvard to task. He was like, y'all got
me window dressing out here, Like I'm trying to really
start a revolution in this mug and y'all like you know,
y'all not y'all not with it, so like don't nobody
(32:12):
like it? And he broke They ain't got no money
for the for the for the campaign. A lot of
the Democrats say like, yo, this is a vanity project,
like you're an election spoiler and an excuse to get
on television. The This is from the Democratic National Committee
Chair Jamie Harrison in July. It was like this is
(32:34):
this is not the time in order to experiment. They like, look,
it's too much at stake. You can't just be out
here talking all this radical stuff. Because essentially, as everybody's
argument is, this is gonna make Trump win is because
you're splitting the.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
The Democratic vote.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Now what sucks is like, how in actual practicality that's
probably true, that sucks, But anyway, the wheeling and dealing
and the knowledge of foreign policy and the positions that
America has, this would be a complete divergence in a
lot of ways from what America the direction in America
(33:17):
has been going since its inception.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
I just like, you.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Can't The practical reality is it's you're unplugging your computer
with seven seventeen programs running like you're just you're going
to crash the system. And again, I don't know how
you can chant down Babylon by being the president of it.
And that's just this I'm not again, these are cursory things.
(33:40):
This is why we can't have a good Jamaican restaurant because.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
When ahats.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
And last, but certainly not least, is the COVID denying
Joe Rogan podcasting, child of an American legend, Robert F.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Kennedy Jr.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Y'all, listen, people really like this dude. And I'm gonna
tell you why they like this dude. They like this
dude the same reason everybody who do like the other
two people I just talked about, because he talked to talk.
He also smart enough to not do the COVID thing,
Like that's not really what he running on is the
anti vax stuff.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
He running on the stuff that.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Could actually help him pull some votes. And then the
part that's like really a brain baker is the fact
that like nobody knows really who's fan base he's chunking off,
Like is he chunking off Trump voters? Is he chunking
off Well, I mean we know he chunking off the
(35:19):
briden voters, But is he is he chunking off like
he pulling from these other places that nobody like we
ain't seen nothing like this, because like I'm gonna set
aside the weirdness, because there's weirdness him talking about i'ma
bring Aaron Rodgers or Jesse the body ventur out this
mug to be my running mate, guys, sideshow Bob Styles. Okay,
(35:43):
let's set that aside, that the pandemic was planned. The
let's set aside the QAnon the which is there, like
y'all just listen to the man talk, like, let's set
aside the conspiracy theory, pilled stuff, and let's get to
why why people want to hear what he got to
(36:03):
say and why he would why people here want to
hear what he got to say is in a lot
of ways, the same reason people fall for those said
conspiracy theories. It's because he's not ignoring the obvious Big
Pharma is obviously crooked, it is obviously wrong, and we
as Americans are walking into this restaurant so desperate for
(36:27):
y'all to have a curry something like curry gold curry, chicken,
curry lobster. Just please tell me you have some curry,
some courage, bars somebody finally say and be like and
really talk to talk and really like show the data
that like Nigga, like all of us, as verifiably accurate
(36:49):
as the science is about COVID and its vaccines. Why
the vaccine, Why we got to it so fast is
because we've been studying this strand we already did our homework.
We've seen similar strands, so we didn't have to start
at chapter one. We got to start at chapter ten
and just make some adjustice and be able to get
(37:10):
to the solution. Nigga because of microbiology, Because Nigga, because
of science. That's how we was able to do the shit.
Like it's not that it's not that serious. However, something
that's plaguing the country, dare I say it plaguing the world,
and you got to make us pay for it, and
pay for it at an astronomical price. Is us So
(37:33):
me with the bare minimum of brain cells to understand
that millions of people died from this disease and I
don't know eight people that can agree on pizza toppings
rather than a an entire cub ball of people that's
willing to keep the secret, like there's not enough money in.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
The world to keep everybody mouth shut.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
So the idea that like it's an inside job put
together that like no, but damn, nigga, you got a
point to say that our main political parties have lost
their way, nigga duh. To say that you are susceptible
to or or be holden to lobbyists, nigga duh.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
You know, like of course you are.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
And the brilliance the man has like tapped into is
like with the conspiracy theory stuff you pulling in that
right wing, with the like healthcare stuff you bringing in
that left wing. And since nobody trusts the government, and
he got a last name like Kennedy, even though his
whole family is like this nigga crazy, y'all. Please y'all,
(38:42):
please don't please don't put this.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Man in office.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Despite that, man has been able to threat a needle
that people like Gary Johnson a Ross Parole, you know,
Ron Paul. These people who are able to thread particular
needles continue to cut through. Now why do they cut through?
(39:09):
It's because we're just so desperate somebody to say something else.
The man got sense enough to understand that climate change
is real, Like he was an environmental lawyer. It's just
like the he's just there's a part of him that's
like again, at least he don't live with his baby mamas,
like just where you could. I mean, he's Harvard trained,
(39:34):
you know, London School of Economics, so just he's smart,
but also really holds to public health conspiracy theories. I
mean he also you know, took Heroin. Like just still
there's there's some there's some other stuff. Our elections are
a Jamaican restaurant Lena hadat.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
But well what do you got? Well, you got a.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Person who understands it's climate change and knows that Big
Pharma is crooked. But he also got a side of
anti vaccine conspiracy theorist who literally said he might he considering.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Aaron Rodgers as a running mate.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Or you can get a healthcare guru who actually just
dropped out, Or you can get an academic revolutionary who
ain't nobody gonna take series. That's what you I mean,
that's what's on the menu. After all this, I will say,
it is not our job as the voters to figure
(40:40):
out any of these candidates strategies. It's like, you know,
people don't want us to point out from at least
from my circles, from these left circles, like we're not
supposed to point out Joe Biden's flaws. We're not supposed
to because if we do, you're just gonna make Trump win.
(41:00):
Don't vote for a third elect third party because you're
just going on make Trump. It's not my job to
cover up his multiple flaws. It is his job to
show improve earnest shit, Like if you okay, prove it,
you hear what these people are saying.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Like get your man's like, yes, this the bare minimum.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
You could lose my vote for you because you won't
say shit about Gaza and you won't do the things
you're supposed to do. You could lose my vote. Right,
there's some things you can't do. Nothing about your age.
You can't do nothing about that. Right to my conservative listeners,
if there's like three of y'all, like, look, be real
(41:48):
about your dude, Like you know what I'm saying, and
at the end of the day, just look bro like,
don't let nobody like vote who you want to vote for.
Don't let nobody be like, oh, you're throwing away. That's
not my job to figure out your strategy. You're throwing
away your vote. You're just heading no nigga like show
your receipts, like prove it to me. And of course
(42:11):
you could be realistic in the sense that like, yeah,
you're the dude. If you're gonna vote for a third
part of your right, that person's probably not gonna win
in a practical sense. But we ain't gonna ever see
nothing better if we just keep letting them tell us
that my vote one way is only gonna result in
(42:33):
something else going like listen, dog, vote for who you
believe you you want in off because some point you
gotta tell that Jamaican restaurant.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
Well you better get that. But don't ever yell at it.
You make it like that hood politics. Y'all.
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
It is a fact.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
If you go to a Jamaican restaurant, they're not going
to have your first three choices. It's just understood. There's
another thing that's understood. It's that well, let me say
it like this, here's my advice. If you're going to
a Jamaican restaurant, pack a snack cause you're you are
(00:38):
going to be waiting for a long time. Just and
they they just don't they just they just move at
they pace. It's an island pace, which I don't understand
what you're so worried about.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
We don't.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
They don't want to have no conversation with you, Like
it's weird. You know, I don't need no greetings. This
is a transaction. Like we're not friends, we're not family.
We make good food. You want to food. If you
want fast food, you go somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
That's it. Like, I don't what you are. You just
we're not friends. Just order your food.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Now. What's also understood about Jamaican culture Jamaican restaurants is
if you come like open minded, not like and curious
if you don't know what you're doing, but you don't
come with a sort of arrogance like you know, let's
say you you dumb and you venture out Kingston or
(01:33):
you know, Montigo. I think a lot of like Caribbean
cultures like that period, like and you're just but you're
showing a type of respect and you want to learn.
If you're just like, hey, uh, this advice is more
for white people, like for black folks, they could be
a lot more judgmental.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
But if you just like, yo, hey, I've never had
Jamaican food.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
I don't know what to order, but I want but
I like spicy stuff. Like I'm down to try anything,
you know, I'm just I'm just down, like I want
to learn more. Oftentimes, unless there's like a rush, like
if it's a rush, that's different, dey'd bee like why
I you know what you want?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
You know, like it'll be annoying.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
But a lot of times, like especially if it's a
small enough spot, they might be like, oh that's dope, Okay,
Yeah you like fish?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
You're like, yeah, you know what do you like? I
like fish?
Speaker 1 (02:20):
You know? You try to curry golp? You know, Yeah, right,
you know, and then they'll just like show you, especially
if you on the either you was like, yo, I
got all the time in the world. I'm going owhere
like I'm down for whatever, like teach me everything. Clearly,
I'm pasty white, I've never done this. I'll just I'm
down whatever. I'm not scared. Let's go, you know what
I'm saying. Then, like a lot of times, there'll be
a respect for that. Now, they ain't gonna smile at you.
(02:41):
Ain't nobody go you ain't gonna get them type of
pleasantries until you eat something super spicy and they watch
it suffer. But most of the time it's like, oh,
it's cool.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
You know, we like this dude.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
But the the one thing I could guarantee you walk
in and you.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Say, how you doing, man, let me get the oxtail
on a how do Oh?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
All right, okay, let's see man, let's get the all right,
let's do the soft fish.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I know how that.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Oh all right, how about let's see y'all got Let
me see y'all got the curry gold and curry gold,
curry gold. Wait, hold on, jay Don, you're not carry gold.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
I know how that. You're like, oh, damn, Okay, what
y'all got? What do you got?
Speaker 1 (03:23):
They're like, yah, menu and if it foods a point
at the menu or the point at like where the
what looks like an impanada? Right like it kind of
looks like that she just got like rice on peas
inside of it, or like chicken, it's a it's a patty.
They call it patty, like chicken patty, beef patty whatever. Right, yeah, menu, And.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
You're just like, bro, you just shot down.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
The three so you're gonna have to go four to
five items down the menu.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Foe.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
You could pick something and they just expect you to
just it's just it is what it is. This is
what's on the menu. We had it, I mean maybe
we had it, maybe we didn't. Maybe it's all out.
The point is ana, how that they not gonna have
your choices? That men, you gonna be down to like
(04:15):
two or three things because you can always go to
another restaurant. Hey, you gonna wait, they gonna go at
their pace. You're gonna sit there and you're gonna eat
when we give you. I know how, they're not gonna smile.
Get it.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
You ain't going for the customer service.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
You going because the shrimp or the lobster or the
cocoa bread slack, because it's delicious and it is what
it is, and this is the place we eating guanguan
And I feel like that's the twenty twenty four election
hood politics. Y'all welcome, welcome, welcome, Let me get the
(05:03):
rights on pisa. I mean there's like skits, Like obviously
when you're doing skits, there's an exaggeration, but you know
these skits come from something like I just don't know
what it is, but they just not.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Gonna have what you want.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Like you got to have like three and four choices,
which seems like a better way to run our politics,
right that you can have your first choice, right, but
you don't want your choice to be binary. Who likes
a restaurant unless the restaurant is so good at what
(05:44):
they do, so flawless, so perfect, right that they got
two things.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
On the menu.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
There's a spot called Little Squartro Milpas down in San
Diego in Chicano Park. It opens at eleven and they
close when they out of food. You get a to
maalere Hale's dei Eros or Takethos, but that's what you're
there for only. Now, if you're a vegetarian, I guess
(06:16):
this ain't your restaurant. If you vegan, I guess this
ain't your restaurant. But they got sense enough to not
put it on the menu.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
This is what it is.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
This is what you signed up for. So there's that right.
On the other hand, the Cheesecake Factory menu, the novel,
that's a whole other situations. I don't know if I
won't that either, Like, I mean, that's a word scramble,
(06:45):
the Cheesecake Factory menu.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
And it's a book. Fam Like y'all really got this.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
I just feel like people just walked in and suggested stuff.
Y'all was like, yeah, why not, let's just put on
the menu where there's anything you can order cheffel pull
it up.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Now.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I don't know if I want my politics to look
like that, but I will say the idea of saying,
which is the thing I'm getting at ultimately in this
is we've gotten to a place now in this twenty
twenty four election, to where essentially, in reality, we got
(07:27):
two options on the menu, and if you want anything
other than these two options, you basically at a Jamaican restaurant.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I know how that.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
And you like, but I'm seeing it on the menu.
I'm seeing a Cornell Wes on the menu. I'm seeing
a Dean Phillips on the menu. Even hell, there might
be a mary Anne Williamson who just you just finally
was like, nah, we don't have that and we never
had it or not. I'm seeing an RFK on the menu.
And these may not even even be your first choice.
(08:03):
These may not even be the choices that you actually want.
You just not really happy with the first two. And
what all the polls are saying, and you don't even
need to poll it.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
We all know. Don't nobody like them?
Speaker 1 (08:14):
For the things you do got, don't nobody like the
only two choices you have on the menu.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
It's just the only things y'all got.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
This is not what I ordered, fam this say what
I came to this restaurant or you telling me this
or my only choice?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
You telling me my only choice?
Speaker 1 (08:31):
You walked in and was like, yo, let me get
a Let me get a functioning adult without any felony
charges that maybe has more than thirty years of life inspectancy.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Anahadats what about this? We anahadats, You're like this can't be.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
This can't be our only choice. You probably thinking, like
I'm thinking.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
How sway? How is it in a institution where we
get to choose our leaders.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
That we the only option is two leaders that nobody won't. Now, obviously,
when I say nobody, clearly is not nobody.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Somebody won't.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
These people Trump consistently pulled at forty seven percent. Now,
remember when he first won. I mean, the man only
had eleven percent. It was just a ton of people
in off in the thing. But you not gonna break
his fan base. But forty seven percent isn't a winning
(09:43):
That's not half. That's not a winning thing unless, and
here's where it get bonkers, unless the person he competing with.
Does the person he competing with have fifty three percent? No,
Joe don't got fifty three percent. But if Joe has
any I hope to having fifty three percent, he's got
to take.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
All the other votes.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
And this is why people get so pressed about third
party candidates. This is what it means to split the vote,
because in our realistic situation, it's that the alternative choices.
And I hate to say it like that, but that's
just how a situation works. The alternative choices are going
to snipe off Democratic votes. Again, You're not chunking away
(10:28):
of that forty seven percent. You chunking away at Joe's
at Joe's possible fifty three. You chunking away at that
because Trump. Trump then broke the Republicans like and in
the few the twenty percent of the independence.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
That's that's who Biden is fighting for. But like they
know if they got other options.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
This is why people try to press you about voting
for other options and say, well, if I vote for
a third party, I'm just guaranteeing the other guy get in.
I mean, this is why. This is where that comes from.
Do I think that that's legit? I think that that's
why in practice, But I'll tell you what I really
think at the end of this episode. But for real, though,
how did we get here? So listen, this show has
(11:12):
this episode. Think of this episode most episodes is think
of it as we sitting on the stove, we sipping
whiskey or apple juice, whatever you into smoking a stove,
smoking some herb or not smoking at all, or either way,
this show big Homie putting you on most of the time.
That's what this show is now today, I'm just one
(11:36):
of y'all. Man, I'm listen, I'm mostly venting. This is
us after work at happy hour, talking cheesemade masa, just
talking shit about our coworkers. That's what today is about, Okay.
I mean I do have like one thing to tell
you at the end, like I said.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
But I just I live here too.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
And here's the reality, guys, Just to bring it all together,
it's really not our only choice. We have a system
that in practice which is very different than in design,
and one could argue that it actually is the design.
Its way to maintain power is that I convince you
if you order off the menu, if you order something else,
(12:21):
you are going to eventually guarantee the one you don't want.
So if I am, you know, stark raving Republican, and
I think that Trump is absurd that if I voted
for a Nikki Haley, I'm basically guaranteeing Biden because I'm
splitting our votes in the other way around, like if
(12:42):
you vote for a more progressive person, you're guaranteeing Trump
coming in. Now that I am convinced that that is
again what practically ends up happening. But I wonder if
it really has to be this way. And if you
keep saying that, then and it's obviously going to keep
(13:02):
being that. It's one of those like our belief in
it makes it real. If that y'all following me, it sucks.
But listen again, I'm just here with you talking trash
about our coworkers at happy hour. But that being said,
that is the thing that is very magical about American politics.
(13:25):
There's a lot of stuff that ain't really real. It's
just the fact that we think it's real makes it real.
That's how constructs work. Maybe I'll do a whole show
on that at some point. Anyway, I'm today, I'm going
to give you some more background on some of the
other choices on the menu.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
And the idea that like.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
I'm going to talk about RFK because you got to
talk about him. I'm going to talk about Cornell West,
And I want to talk about Mary Anne Philip Marianne Williamson,
mainly because okay, she's dropped out, But I think that
there is something there. I think here's here's here, here's
here's me not doing the hood politics stick. This is
(14:06):
just me being a citizen with you. We are just
so desperate for another voice, for another option on the menu.
That it's almost like if you just give us just
a little bit of sanity, just a little taste, will
take all the other shit, Like, well, I'll take it.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
You know. It's it's a. It's a.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
It's the it's the girl or the person who just
been dating just trash dudes or just just trash people.
So if you meet somebody that just shows you the
just the bare minimum of respect, just just the person,
just the slightest bit of care and affection towards you,
(14:49):
like a person who says, I could this is great,
Like he don't actually live with his baby's mama like this,
then this is good?
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Like fam, that's that's the bar. That's the bar. And
we just we have been beaten to a place to
where we will.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Take all of and I'm just like we the royal
We we will take all of the crackpot conspiracy theorists
that is RFK because the brother y'all listen, we're gonna
go over his policies, which are some of them are decent,
but it's sprinkled with just pandemic like absolute you are
(15:26):
out of your mind, conspiracy theory pilled but I'll take
it because you understand big pharma and you're willing to
say something about that, like just little things like that
where it's just like we're just so desperate for another voice.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
It just please tell me.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
You have more on this menu than just the side
of cocoa rice.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Let's get into it, all right, we're back now.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Please understand, the profiles I'm about to give you are
just almost criminally thin, like, do not This is in
no way comprehensive. Do not, y'all, listen, do not take
this these things I'm about to tell you as deep
(16:45):
dodges because they are not. What they are are profiles
and other options and ultimately a case for you know,
ranked voting in a way that so much any other
things in our democracy actually exist in And just guys, man,
(17:07):
the two party systems, it just it just it broke
us and it just sucks. And I don't I'm not
smart enough to figure out an answer as to like
how to get us out of this death spiral. I
don't know, because if I did, I wouldn't be podcasting.
I'd be a billionaire because I would definitely sell it.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Now.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
First off, though she's dropped out, let's talk about the
rose water and charged crystals of it all.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Miss Maryann Williamson.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Now I'm being silly about that, but she got her
original star power from finally landing a best selling book
called Return to Love. Before that, she wrote this joint
called the Mystic Jesus. So if you were somewhat faith
based but kind of had a little woo will about you,
you understood Jesus to be something different than the bully
(18:06):
white evangelical conquering just bully that a lot of America
sees Jesus as you may come from a tradition that's
a little more again about Jesus being a mystic that's
worried about much more of the spiritual, the inner piece,
you know, the being. And a lot of times the
churches you came from are either you're you're completely turned
(18:31):
off by the esoteric or anything like that because it's witchcraft,
or you're only wrapped up with the hyper pentecostal moving
of the spirit. You know you want somebody it's like
a little more mystic, right. So this was a number
one best seller, like this is back in ninety seven.
It's called Return to Love, a Return to Love, and
(18:53):
it's arguing that how we can become a miracle worker
by accepting God and by the expression of love in
our daily lives. Right, So, whether it's mystic pain or relationships, career,
or health, right.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Love is the potential force, you know.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
So she's coming from this very centered So anybody who's
in like this spiritual health and wellness world was already
up on her right now.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
The the draw.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
From her is the fact that most people that feel
like that usually have an aversion of politics.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
It's just so icky, you know, you just.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Because you think that like the things that you want
are so far away from being possible, or that you know,
the like I mean, I was guilty of this as
a kid too, where it would be like you know,
I'd be I'd be chasing after a girl and she
would be like, now you more like marriage material? Like
you you too nice? Like I don't want you ever
(19:51):
been told you was too nice? So you don't you can't,
you can't get to the yams because you too nice,
you know what I'm saying. Like you you're a keeper.
I think it is a lot of ways like that.
Besides a lot of her sort of woo woo kind
of mystic talk. What turned most of America off, because
most of America ain't gone to therapy is the fact
that it's like you two nice, like this arena you finished,
(20:13):
step in like they finish, eat you alive, like ma'am,
you know, but we still like how you talk. Now,
what are some of the specifics that's not just all
this she is she actually has some very enticing positions.
And again, because your men, you only got two options.
You keep telling me you ain't got nothing else, right,
(20:34):
and this the other thing you got is like, well damn,
let me, let me. I mean, you could convince me
that the steam rights is the most delicious thing here, because.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
That's all that's my only other option.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Now she of this board, unless you're not talking about Cornell,
which is different, but like she pulls the progressive thing
on Gaza, She's like, obviously this is atrocious. These are
these are things that obviously should not happen, you know,
And and just if you don't know, like this is
the second time she's ran for president, right, she's already
(21:04):
been on Oprah Winfree, you know, she ran for Congress
and Cali as an independent. But either way it didn't work, right,
She believes in a universal health care system, emphasizes the
need for it. Oh wow, how about healthier food, right,
water and air and a less stressful lifestyle, saying that
our current economics system hires the probability of sickness like food, dug. Yeah,
(21:30):
you know what I'm saying, Like our work week, the
necessities of being able to just like, oh, I don't know,
pay the rent probably means.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
We gonna get sick more.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
You feed us plastic food, you know, with no nutrients
in it.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
The water ain't pure, the air is toxic.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Maybe that should be a part of our understanding of
health care. That makes a lot of sense to me.
She also wants to create what she's calling a Department
of Peace to suppress violence and address the root cause
domestically and internationally. Right, She has this more like listen, listen,
holistic approach to policy, and it's underscored. I'm quoting this
(22:12):
from Al Jazeera, underscored from her soft spoken, guru like persona. Now,
the problem is people don't be owned that woo woo stuff,
So people just don't take her serious. Right. There was
a clip from twenty nineteen when she ran against When
she was trying to run against Trump. Right when she
was saying after a primary debate that she would harness
(22:35):
love to beat the president the bear President Donald Trump
in his campaign of fear. Then there was some stuff
that came out, you know, on Politico about her having
an abusive culture inside of campaign, and people were saying, like, god,
she rerates people often. You know, all those things started happening,
(22:58):
things that come with your star kind of like shooting up.
You know, you're gonna get people saying that there are
things wrong about you. Right, she's stating the bare minimum
that there should be a cease fire in Gaza, you
know what I'm saying. She's like questioning this idea of
like this unwavering support to Israel life. She like, yo, unwavering,
(23:19):
Like you're telling me there's nothing they could do that
would make you You see how desperate we are for
somebody to just say something that regular, right, that like
undying like unwavering support.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Guys, you tried to so there's nothing they could do
that would make you change your mind. Nothing, twenty thousand
Palestinians dead.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Nothing, She says, I understand Israel's need to slay the monster,
but this military action is only feeding it. That's I mean,
come on, right, Like that's rooted in research and factual.
So she's like progressive on health care. Like I said,
y'all got to dig in. She progressive on health care.
(24:03):
She thinks that healthcare should have a holistic approach and
that maybe if we were you know, more stricter on
the foods we allowed ourselves to eat, you know, maybe
cleaned up some air, maybe add some climate stuff, then
the necessity of so much you know, health care coverage
wouldn't be that because I mean, I mean, god damn.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
On the other hand, she.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Want to put together a Department of peace and listen,
I'm not making fun of her. I'm just saying this
is why don't nobody take her serious? Cause it's like
where your claws at Like this we there's a belief that,
like this system you're going into is gonna eat you alive.
Now go to her website, Okay, get more deep into
what I'm talking about. Like I said, these are cursory
(24:47):
surface scraping things.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
But it's on the menu. It's just it's on the menu.
It just don't nobody order it. So they like that.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
So the stuff she talking, I mean that ain't gonna
pull no Trump votes, right you you pulling, that's you
playing the left of the Democrats, like you pulling Biden votes.
That's again, that's the argument next to brother Cornell West,
who is also running. Now here's the thing, guys, we
(25:16):
already know why y'all not gonna serve him up. Why
why you're not gonna add him? Keep him on the menu.
Just look at the dude.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
I'm just I'm speaking reality.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Mark ain't gonna put no man like him in the office,
which sucks because in in my opinion, Cornell got the
juice multi hyphenated. As an activist, he would say justice
is what love looks like in public, he says. A
lover of music, I'm a blues man in the life
(25:49):
of the mind, I'm a jazz man in the world
of ideas. As a scholar, deep education requires an habitual
vision of greatness. I mean he channeled all he checks
all the boxes for like a black man.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
You can't lead to people if you don't love the people.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
He speaks with that kind of thing thang, you can't
save the people if you don't serve the people. He
got that kind of rhythm in the way that he talks.
He's a scholar, public theologian, right, a philosopher, and just
understands the concept of justice. But what the concept of
justice calls for is a dismantling of the system we
(26:29):
have now. Right, So how like that, my friend, is
where it becomes so much more complicated. See, the organism
ain't designed to support this type of superbug. How can
never kanez a chant down Babylon from a Bible scholars. So,
like I said, here goes platform. You go to the website,
see it yourself. Economic justice. So my first step is
(26:52):
to abolished poverty, abolish hopelessness.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Oh word, you just finish end it right.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Establish a federal public banking institutions to fund public infrastructure
and green reconstruction.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Sure that'd be great. Establish a universal basic income.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
See these What I'm trying to tell you is people
looking at this man and it's like, nigga, are you
trying to build Waconda cus like, And here's the thing, Yes,
that's what he trying to say, Nigga, we don't. It
don't have to be this way. The problem is it's
coming out of black lips. He ain't saying nothing more
revolutionary than Bernie well, I guess he is in some ways,
(27:31):
but like y'all ain't even want to hear it out
of Bernie's lips. I just we in a world that like, listen,
you can't tell these white people the truth.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Now, y'all, I'm just playing. I'm messing around.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
There's a movie coming out, I know it's out by now,
The Society of Magical Negroes, and the premise is this.
So the phrase magical Negroes coined by Spike Lee. It
was this idea of like this movie character's character in
in the movies that are so integral to the plot,
but they have no actual background, like there's no they
(28:11):
have no history. They just kind of PLoP up in
the movie with no beginning and they just they just
got it there, like but somehow save the story like
driving Miss Daisy, like you know, where does Nigga come from?
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Like this is the magical Negro, you feel me? That's it.
So he coined the phrase.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
And then but then sometimes the magical negro is the
guy that's like, hey, you know, well, if you just well,
when the meteor is coming to earth, like if y'all
would just put this formula in, it would oh nobody.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Oh okay.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
You know, the og asked the little homie, like, what's
the most dangerous animal in the world, and the.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Guy goes the sharks. He goes, No, it's white people
when they feel uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Because when they feel a slightly uncomfortable, a little bit nervous,
bad things happen to the world. When you feel when
they feel the least bit challenged. You understand I'm saying,
when they see success happen to anybody else. So the
Society of Magical Negroes what they do is they assess
(29:20):
the feeling of threat that white people have and magically
do what they gotta do to make them feel comfortable
as to save the world. So it's satire, it's supposed
to be absurd, but there's a critique going on here,
and the critique is the idea that specifically as black people.
(29:42):
But you can stress this stretch this to not just
white people but dominant culture because obviously, again guys, it's satire.
We're not talking about every single white person that ever lived, Like,
come on, like, no, we's smarter than that.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
No, I'm smarter than that.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
We're talking about the institution of dominant culture, which here
just happens to break along racial lines, right, it just does. Now,
we spend a lot of our time as people of
color making sure that white folks ain't nervous, making sure
that like we kind of like just kind of placate
(30:18):
and not be too much of ourselves, cause when they
get nervous.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
January sixth has happened.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Too much can go wrong if white people feel uncomfortable. Right,
So we do a lot of our team you know,
I don't you know, And these are things that you practice,
looks as as a young black man, these are things
you practice. It's like, listen, you gotta you can't wear
the outfit you was gonna wear when you're gonna be
around a lot of the white people. You can't talk
as loud as you was gonna talk when you be
around a lot of these white people.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Make them nervous.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
There are things that I remember I used to always
have to do, even walking home, like to make sure
that this white lady who's about to cross me, you know,
she gonna clinch her purse if me and a homies
like making sure that we like, okay, let me make sure,
like how what do I do to make her feel comfortable?
Speaker 2 (31:02):
To make sure that she know so she don't call
the police.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
There are things that we kind of have done, whether
it's like if you speak another language, just making sure,
oh man, you know, they getting urd Like white people
get scared when we speak in our own land. They
think we're talking about them. So like you gotta like,
either let's talk later, or you know, do what you
gotta do to make them feel comfortable. You know what
I'm saying, Because it's like, because when they feel threatened,
genocides happen, you know.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
So, So the issue with Cornell West.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Nigga, even though that's not what he's saying. He's saying,
my movement is love, right, it don't matter. He be
making white people feel uncomfortable. That's that's the problem. You
can't make white people feel uncomfortable with American nigga. Now,
some of y'all may think that makes him the perfect candidate, right,
(31:50):
He's he's hated by the any establishment, like the democratic
establishment can't stand him. He's reviled among the academics because
he called Harvard to task. He was like, y'all got
me window dressing out here, Like I'm trying to really
start a revolution in this mug and y'all like you know,
y'all not y'all not with it, so like don't nobody
(32:12):
like it? And he broke They ain't got no money
for the for the for the campaign. A lot of
the Democrats say like, yo, this is a vanity project,
like you're an election spoiler and an excuse to get
on television. The This is from the Democratic National Committee
Chair Jamie Harrison in July. It was like this is
(32:34):
this is not the time in order to experiment. They like, look,
it's too much at stake. You can't just be out
here talking all this radical stuff. Because essentially, as everybody's
argument is, this is gonna make Trump win is because
you're splitting the.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
The Democratic vote.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Now what sucks is like, how in actual practicality that's
probably true, that sucks, But anyway, the wheeling and dealing
and the knowledge of foreign policy and the positions that
America has, this would be a complete divergence in a
lot of ways from what America the direction in America
(33:17):
has been going since its inception.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
I just like, you.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Can't The practical reality is it's you're unplugging your computer
with seven seventeen programs running like you're just you're going
to crash the system. And again, I don't know how
you can chant down Babylon by being the president of it.
And that's just this I'm not again, these are cursory things.
(33:40):
This is why we can't have a good Jamaican restaurant because.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
When ahats.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
And last, but certainly not least, is the COVID denying
Joe Rogan podcasting, child of an American legend, Robert F.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Kennedy Jr.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Y'all, listen, people really like this dude. And I'm gonna
tell you why they like this dude. They like this
dude the same reason everybody who do like the other
two people I just talked about, because he talked to talk.
He also smart enough to not do the COVID thing,
Like that's not really what he running on is the
anti vax stuff.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
He running on the stuff that.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Could actually help him pull some votes. And then the
part that's like really a brain baker is the fact
that like nobody knows really who's fan base he's chunking off,
Like is he chunking off Trump voters? Is he chunking
off Well, I mean we know he chunking off the
(35:19):
briden voters, But is he is he chunking off like
he pulling from these other places that nobody like we
ain't seen nothing like this, because like I'm gonna set
aside the weirdness, because there's weirdness him talking about i'ma
bring Aaron Rodgers or Jesse the body ventur out this
mug to be my running mate, guys, sideshow Bob Styles. Okay,
(35:43):
let's set that aside, that the pandemic was planned. The
let's set aside the QAnon the which is there, like
y'all just listen to the man talk, like, let's set
aside the conspiracy theory, pilled stuff, and let's get to
why why people want to hear what he got to
(36:03):
say and why he would why people here want to
hear what he got to say is in a lot
of ways, the same reason people fall for those said
conspiracy theories. It's because he's not ignoring the obvious Big
Pharma is obviously crooked, it is obviously wrong, and we
as Americans are walking into this restaurant so desperate for
(36:27):
y'all to have a curry something like curry gold curry, chicken,
curry lobster. Just please tell me you have some curry,
some courage, bars somebody finally say and be like and
really talk to talk and really like show the data
that like Nigga, like all of us, as verifiably accurate
(36:49):
as the science is about COVID and its vaccines. Why
the vaccine, Why we got to it so fast is
because we've been studying this strand we already did our homework.
We've seen similar strands, so we didn't have to start
at chapter one. We got to start at chapter ten
and just make some adjustice and be able to get
(37:10):
to the solution. Nigga because of microbiology, Because Nigga, because
of science. That's how we was able to do the shit.
Like it's not that it's not that serious. However, something
that's plaguing the country, dare I say it plaguing the world,
and you got to make us pay for it, and
pay for it at an astronomical price. Is us So
(37:33):
me with the bare minimum of brain cells to understand
that millions of people died from this disease and I
don't know eight people that can agree on pizza toppings
rather than a an entire cub ball of people that's
willing to keep the secret, like there's not enough money in.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
The world to keep everybody mouth shut.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
So the idea that like it's an inside job put
together that like no, but damn, nigga, you got a
point to say that our main political parties have lost
their way, nigga duh. To say that you are susceptible
to or or be holden to lobbyists, nigga duh.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
You know, like of course you are.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
And the brilliance the man has like tapped into is
like with the conspiracy theory stuff you pulling in that
right wing, with the like healthcare stuff you bringing in
that left wing. And since nobody trusts the government, and
he got a last name like Kennedy, even though his
whole family is like this nigga crazy, y'all. Please y'all,
(38:42):
please don't please don't put this.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Man in office.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Despite that, man has been able to threat a needle
that people like Gary Johnson a Ross Parole, you know,
Ron Paul. These people who are able to thread particular
needles continue to cut through. Now why do they cut through?
(39:09):
It's because we're just so desperate somebody to say something else.
The man got sense enough to understand that climate change
is real, Like he was an environmental lawyer. It's just
like the he's just there's a part of him that's
like again, at least he don't live with his baby mamas,
like just where you could. I mean, he's Harvard trained,
(39:34):
you know, London School of Economics, so just he's smart,
but also really holds to public health conspiracy theories. I
mean he also you know, took Heroin. Like just still
there's there's some there's some other stuff. Our elections are
a Jamaican restaurant Lena hadat.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
But well what do you got? Well, you got a.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Person who understands it's climate change and knows that Big
Pharma is crooked. But he also got a side of
anti vaccine conspiracy theorist who literally said he might he considering.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Aaron Rodgers as a running mate.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Or you can get a healthcare guru who actually just
dropped out, Or you can get an academic revolutionary who
ain't nobody gonna take series. That's what you I mean,
that's what's on the menu. After all this, I will say,
it is not our job as the voters to figure
(40:40):
out any of these candidates strategies. It's like, you know,
people don't want us to point out from at least
from my circles, from these left circles, like we're not
supposed to point out Joe Biden's flaws. We're not supposed
to because if we do, you're just gonna make Trump win.
(41:00):
Don't vote for a third elect third party because you're
just going on make Trump. It's not my job to
cover up his multiple flaws. It is his job to
show improve earnest shit, Like if you okay, prove it,
you hear what these people are saying.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Like get your man's like, yes, this the bare minimum.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
You could lose my vote for you because you won't
say shit about Gaza and you won't do the things
you're supposed to do. You could lose my vote. Right,
there's some things you can't do. Nothing about your age.
You can't do nothing about that. Right to my conservative listeners,
if there's like three of y'all, like, look, be real
(41:48):
about your dude, Like you know what I'm saying, and
at the end of the day, just look bro like,
don't let nobody like vote who you want to vote for.
Don't let nobody be like, oh, you're throwing away. That's
not my job to figure out your strategy. You're throwing
away your vote. You're just heading no nigga like show
your receipts, like prove it to me. And of course
(42:11):
you could be realistic in the sense that like, yeah,
you're the dude. If you're gonna vote for a third
part of your right, that person's probably not gonna win
in a practical sense. But we ain't gonna ever see
nothing better if we just keep letting them tell us
that my vote one way is only gonna result in
(42:33):
something else going like listen, dog, vote for who you
believe you you want in off because some point you
gotta tell that Jamaican restaurant.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
Well you better get that. But don't ever yell at it.
You make it like that hood politics. Y'all.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
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You better listen to these credits. I need you to
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