April 2, 2025 • 55 mins
Everyone knows the group chat is sacred space. And the person who started the chat must make sure that everyone who's in there, should be in there. No one wants the content of your group chat exposed, especially when it's filled with classified military plans! Sheesh! Today we discuss how the editor of The Atlantic ended up on a Signal group chat about an active military strike in Yemen.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Media. All right, First of all, my bad about last
week with confusing Dutch and Danish, and it seems like
I didn't catch myself till the end of the thing,
but it mixed up my white people. My bad and
shout out for y'all being gracious to me. Yeah, Dutch
ain't Danish. Danish ain't Dutch.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Good politics.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I'm sorry, y'all.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Okay, okay, who hasn't texted the wrong person?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Oops? Wrong text a? Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
First of all, the group chat is sacred. This is
internationally known. Everyone who has ever participated in a group
chat knows. We all know in the depths of our
souls that if anything in this group chat has ever
got out, our families, our careers, our children's perception of us,
(01:59):
our friendship destroyed. I would argue that the group chat
is the last sacred space on earth.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
This is where you get.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
To have all your debauchery, You get to be devolved,
share the dankest of memes because you know it's sacred,
and everybody in it understands with the equal amount of
debauchery that we have all put into this thing, we
all understand that this cannot come out. But you've been
(02:35):
added to a group chat before, and when you get
added to a group chat, why was you not like,
let me first make sure I know everybody's number in it.
And if you don't know, let's say it was a
work group chat, you'd be like, Yo, this is prop,
(02:55):
I'm the six two sixth number. Everybody say who they
are so we could save you save your numbers. At
some point you do that in the group chat, and
if somebody don't do it, you hit the person you
know directly. Have y'all never been in a group chat
and be like, yo, who's the Hey, who's the nine
or nine number?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Like who added in?
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Because I'm not finna, just start talking if I don't
know everybody in the group, especially the one that ain't
introduced themselves, who don't double check? Now, if you was
adding in a group and you don't know anybody, like
(03:38):
none of the numbers, you might be like, oh, maybe
this was a mistake, and what do you do? You
lurk to see who wouldn't lurk? You just you never
like you just never know. This might be dope, or
you might be like this ain't none of my business
and you just dip out. I've been added the group
text on accident, and I realized, like, either A, this
(03:58):
is spam or B. Y'all probably meant another prop or
another Jason, but I'll usually hit that person directly, like, YO,
would you trying to add me? Have you ever back
when voice messages voicemail was a thing. You even had
somebody acted like pocket like butt dial you and then
you hear them talking. And one time I asked somebody
(04:21):
butt dial me and they was on a date and
they ended up and they was talking trash about me.
I got forty five minutes of them talking trash about me.
But this is why you double check. And the stakes
that we talk about is maybe a little bit of embarrassment,
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maybe some repercussions at work, but at the end of
the day, everybody knows you don't let this get out
because this is sacred. So it would be safe to
assume that we all agree that the stakes maybe relatively
are low, but they're high enough to double check. Yeah,
(05:05):
I might lose a job, but let's just say this
group check required the highest of security clearances that our
country has the offer. How come nobody was like, yo,
who's the two O two number?
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Politics?
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Y'alls text.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Y'all, welcome to the who They's PC group chat small group, y'all.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
If it wasn't so not funny, this would be the
funniest four years that this country has ever off to
after if it wasn't so oh, I don't know, Nazish,
if it wasn't so fast. Yeah, So that abrupt, stopped
(06:39):
and outfit change that you're seeing right now on your
screen is we're hearing right now in your headphones. Is
the sights and sounds of a person who exported this
video wrong, and it only exported the first five minutes
of the show. And then last night, as in the
(07:03):
night before this was going to get edited, deleted the
original files from his hard drive because he was just
trying to make expect that is the sight and sound
that you are witnessing right now. I can't be more frustrated.
I don't know this has been This is Tuesday morning, okay,
(07:26):
this is the morning that Matt mixes and Masters needs
to go out on Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I try to have it to him.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
By Monday afternoon so that we can do all the
tweaks and stuff like that right now.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
But somehow I get to now model.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
The behavior that I wish our senators would give, which
is not just our senators, I mean our top five.
God damn it. I need to find freaking notes to
my bad That's all I'm saying. I don't know why
these people couldn't just be like, you know what, we
(08:09):
fucked up, We royally royally, just we fucked up.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Guys. Listen, Jason, my name is Jason.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
You know what I'm saying, prop is like, that's the
nickname that I got when I was thirteen.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
But Jason born of janis I fucked up.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
I deleted these files knowing full well, and I'm telling
you y'all, my practice is to don't delete files that
till the episode come out, just in case your boy
didn't do it this time, because I thought I needed
hard drive space.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
God dog.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
And you know what the thing is like, if you've
ever recorded something, you get it, it's never gonna be
as good as you remember. This version that you're about
to hear right now that I'm gonna try to go
back and find my notes on, it ain't ever gonna
be as good as the one. O Lord, I'm gonna
pull up my notes now because I was at least
(09:10):
wise enough to throw the notes into the Google doc
rather than just crack jokes with y'all. Ah, man, I've
never been I'm so frustrated right now. I was.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
I was googling how to like how do you empty
the trash?
Speaker 1 (09:26):
And I know some of you, like, uh, some of
you computer nerds would probably know how to tell me
how to get into my deleted files. But I'm like,
at this point, you might as well just re recorded.
So here we are, Matt, Oh lord, cue the theme music.
(10:02):
All right, here we go, God dog, I still feel
that pit that butterflies. I feel that, I still feel
that pit in my stomach, the pit for which these
men should have felt when they realized what they was doing. Now,
what I'm assuming is you already noticed because it has
(10:24):
been all of a matter of fact, what sucks about
this world we in is like y'all have moved on
from this. The memes are already incredible. One of the
dopest memes I saw was the picture from a Succession
when whole Boy kept sending the Dick pics to his
like basically his play Auntie, and then he realized he
(10:45):
just got caught and he was doing the McCaulay Culkin
little brother. I love that we've embraced the Maculkin family.
There's a guy in my church that looked just like
one of them, but I'm too shy to ask him
because he looks so much like him.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
And if he's not that he's like bro. People probably
say that all the time.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Y'all see this box of toilet paper right here or
this if you looking at this video, This is how
thrown off I am.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Normally because the doc zp.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Refer to her by her prefix uses the office, which
is my little recording studio as also storage, so I
usually try to move this stuff off camera. But I'm
so flustered right now from the reality of this situation
I'm in.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Which again I hope reflex.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
The hearts and minds of the PC small group at
this point, because the news move so fast, you should
already know what happened, bruh in some of the messiest,
sloppiest like I don't understand, I don't understand how at
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the stakes that they're at that they wasn't more careful.
Now y'all listening, listen, I just do podcasts, so these
steaks are not that high. Okay, I'm gonna miss a meeting.
Matt's gonna have to stay up later. Ian's gonna have
to scramble. The stakes aren't that high. Let's just say
(12:27):
this was an actual group text, and maybe you was
talking trash about your boss. Maybe you had sent a
few pitches from the gym that you know you wasn't
posted to take of some of the nice, pretty round browns.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
That's what my whole boy used to call pooties. But
you see how I.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Don't really talk like that, but you talk like that
in the group text because you understand this is mutual destruction,
this is nuclear You post a double check that they're
trust inside the group text. Don't we all notice? Don't
we all notice? But alas, I'm gonna leave this in
(13:11):
the video. Normally I would edit this out. This is
Matt texting me being like, Yo, what are you gonna do?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
He said, do you use dropbox? Pro?
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Might be start saving episodes so you could keep the files.
I'm gonna text him right now and tell them what
I just text, y'all. I normally don't throw files away
until until the episode is out. I just got to
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sloppy last night.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I didn't even drink.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I mean, like I I was standing in solidarity for
most of this month with the two of the three
mono theists religions that.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
You know fast right now you feel me.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
I was standing here in solidarity with with with my
brothers and sisters in Ramadan, and I was pushing my
flesh away, so I wasn't even distracted. I just did
some dumb shit. But when you do dumb shit, my
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people again back to my point, you just you you
did some dumb shit.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
It is what it is.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
But this particular situation, if you don't know, the narrative,
was dumb shit that could cause lives.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Now let's get to it.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
If you don't know, by now, there was a situation
a few weeks ago where let's let's go with the narrative.
So if you are someone who's been pursuing your dreams,
your dreams of journalism, you know, fought and scrapped and
especially journalism in the era where they you get one
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of them get you get killed in by the head
of a country, you get blown up in Palestine, you
get like, this is a hard time to be a journalist.
Now in America, we have this martyred fetish, this kink
about believing we suffering in relation to the rest of
(15:50):
the world. Obviously you know I'm talking about because obviously
they are real suffering, and suffering.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Is of course relative.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
But for some reason we like to believe, especially these
especially especially uh Christians in America, they love to believe
they persecuted, they got like king like they feel like
they left out, like y'all, like y'all left out of
the persecution ring.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
You want to you want to go back to the
Roman Empire where y'all burn by you like you trying
to you try you want to be like that. You
feel me. It's not y'all. Listen, Christians, y'all are y'all
have been mildly inconvenienced, but now you won't talk. Okay,
y'all got it. It's your world. You got your never cannezzer. Okay,
he's in the he's in the he's in the office.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
You got him. Right.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
If you're a journalist in America, you getting dragged. If
you're a journalist in America trying to actually do your job,
you getting dragged. But every once in a while you
get an alert and if and if you are just
work your way up to the top of a reputable
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news source called.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
The Atlantic, and your name is Jeffrey Goldberd.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
You might have been sitting in your car chilling and
then you get an alert on Signal.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Now.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Signal, if you don't know, is a text messaging service
similar to a WhatsApp that's just not so Zuckerbirdye.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Right, it's got Endo end encryption.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Now again, if you're an immigrant, you've been on WhatsApp
for the last ten years, yo, saying that's how you
talk to your family, right, Signal is another option for
it because of the same like into end encryption and
your nation don't matter.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Now we cool Zone media.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
We use Signal for probably the same reasons anyone else
would use Signal one. It's convenient too, it's the it's
got the privacy, it's got the vanishing modes because you
could be like so you could be ratchet like on
Snapchat and you feel me because you know it's going
just gonna disappear, which will come back, which we'll talk
about a little bit later. But yeah, we use it
because we're passing around stuff, you know, and Molly and
(17:54):
them got the weird little guys that they be talking
about that don't like them, you know, so he has
gotten uh many a threats. You feel me Robert had
to you know, beat the brakes off or not or
almost did these. So you know, so we got people
like looking for us, not for me, but looking for them.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
You know, maybe they are looking for me. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I think I was on a list at one point.
So we be trying to keep a lot of our
communications a little bit private.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
But we're podcasters.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
It's kind of not that serious. It's serious, but it's
not that serious. So you jeff you money all business bloop.
You get an alert to join the whothy PC small group.
Now PC stands for Principals Committees, so this is the
(18:47):
highest of clearance, okay, And you get this alert from
this man named Mike Walls.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Now Mike Waltz is the.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
National Security Advisor, so like you're the guy to make
sure that the security of the nation stays secure, and
you get this alert. Now here's the thing. There's a
lot of guys in my phone named Robert. There's probably
a lot of dudes in his phone named Jeffrey.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Honest mistake at first, so.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
But also probably a mistake that wouldn't have happened had
you not used signal. If you're on the audio version,
you didn't see me scoot forward and get really close
to the camera. But had you not used signal, probably
could have avoided this whole thing. Anyway, get alert from
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Mike Wallas. Now, if you Jeffrey Goldberg, you're thinking a
couple of things. One of the things you might be
thinking is maybe this is like you know, you're just
gonna alert me of yeah, like basic stuff, like all right,
there's gonna be a press briefing. You're just letting me
know directly. It's crazy that you stop my phone, say
(20:14):
phone numbers, say, considering how much your boss don't like me,
But it is what it is.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
You have to communicate with the press, like.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
The reality is, until Trump completes his breaking of the
US norms, you still got to communicate with the press.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
So a little weird to.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Get hit up directly by him and not one of
his people's, but it is what it is. So you
joined the group. Why would you not join the group.
Then you start looking around as to who in this group? Hey,
who's in the group. The head of the CIA, you
got Mark Rubio, the Secretary of State, you got Toaci Gabbert,
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the National Intelligence you got John Radcliffe, and and you got.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Pete head ass. Hec seth.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
That's that man's name, he Pete head ass. Pete head ass,
hec seth head ass.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
How do you describe a head ass?
Speaker 1 (21:14):
You?
Speaker 2 (21:14):
What do you like I did to him? Head ass?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
You throw a head ass at the end of Like,
what's great about being black, especially when you're gonna roast somebody,
is like you could just describe what you see on
a person and then just say looking ass at the
end of it.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Or old head ass.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Right, you got a dude that's doing quick calculations in
his head about how much the tip is your long
division head ass.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Your old math professor looking ass.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Like. The thing about being black is we get to
roast you even about good stuff like your prompt on
time head ass, Yo on time is already late? Looking ass. Anyway,
Pete had ass excess. So they are in this group.
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But most people, again, who have gaming avatars, everybody knows
unless it's like.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
The hommies put your real name in that.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
And even for me, I have friends who are couple
A lists, a few A minus lists.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
I saved them under different names. In my phone.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
They not saved under their actual names. Why just in
case something gets out, I just like, y'all.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Don't y'all don't know this. Y'all don't know this right.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
So anyway, TC is Tozy Gabbert, Right, you got Mr
in there, Marco Rubio and Ani Food start talking now again,
don't understand why nobody was like, hey, who's this other number?
I don't know what y'alseton. My guess is you assumed
that that was somebody's aid. But I don't understand why
you ain't asked. Why you ain't hit the person that
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added you to the group and be like, hey, I
recognize everybody, but who's that?
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Like, who's aid is that?
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yo?
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Who's man? Says?
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Hey, how you doing helming? Everybody else's introducer? So we
all know each other? Like who do you work for?
Why did you not ask? It's like they've never been
in a group chat before.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Anyway. This is what happens when you hire people that
just rock with.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
You when you anyway, So they talking about their plans
about how they going to drop these bombs on the Hoothies.
Now quick recap if you don't remember who the Hoothis
are Houthie who. We did an episode on the Hoothi's
that was called the side Quest during the You Wasn't
(23:54):
Outside episodes.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Who the Hoothis were and are?
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Is a militi group in Yemen, right, and they are,
like most militant groups out there, backed by Iran, but
they also have their own issues around the liberation of
the country of Yemen.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Now, Yemen has.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Been in a ridiculous civil war for a long time.
As for like for there's parts of Yemen that I've
wanted to visit because they have these weird, these amazing
like this island of these like trees that look like
they're upside down, look like the branches look like roots.
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It's pretty crazy, right, they have that. But they also
have probably some of the best coffee on earth.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Why it costs so much too, If you.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Ever get somewhere and they have like yemen these beans,
Yemeny coffee. That's like a running joke with like y'all
a lot of my Muslim like friends. It's like, dude,
you're supposed to be fascinating, but the kids are going
to get Yemeni coffee right in. In their defense, Yemen
got some of the best coff of y'all earth right anyway,
partially because like they're not they have less like interbreeding,
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like modification. It's like it's truly just yemen soil. It's
delicious anyway. So Yemen and the hooties, obviously they don't
like the treatment of the citizens of Gaza and the
people of Palestine. They feel like everybody else feels, except
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for Saudi Arabia about what Israel's doing.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
That y'all, what you're doing is wrong.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Inhumane and genocidal and apartheid. But again they're funded by Iran.
Now what they've been doing is essentially like as ships
come through the Red Sea and go through the Suez Canal.
Now a Suez Canal is up in Egypt where you know,
you know, the little like if you picture in the
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Horn of Africa where Egypt all the way down to Ethiopia,
and then there's like a little lego piece that look
like it fits a little puzzle piece looks like it
fits right in between them things. So the bottom of
that thing, so that big thing is like Saudi Arabia,
and the bottom of that thing right there is the
country a Yemen. So if you going through the Suez Canal.
Like your other option would be go all the way
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around Africa to get to the Atlantic Ocean, right, or
you can come from the Indian Ocean from one side
of the country, cut through the little shortcut right up
the Red Sea, go through the Suez Canal. You already
in the Mediterranean. Look you in Asia, minor you in Europe.
You already made it right, and then you could go
into the open Atlantic Ocean rather going all the way
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down to the South Pole and shit to try to
get down around South Africa. That's gonna take you forever, right,
so you go through the Seuez Canal to get there.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
So what So what the who thieves been doing is.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
They've been throwing like like throwing rocks, throw a little
like like more not acatomic bonds, but throwing mortars at
the boats trying to get through here.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
It's kind of like it's annoying, you understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
So it's like like if if if somebody's scrapping and
then there's just like a punch that come from the
side somebody just jumped in from the side where you
just or the dude that just come by while you
running and just kind of stick leg out trip them. Right,
that's kind of what the who Thi's been doing. They
just been tripping, you know what I'm saying. And that's
their way to help with this is the guys that
they just you know, like we got our own shit
(27:33):
we gotta worry about. But you know, but if there's
a way we can like mess with this, that's what
we're gonna do. Biden during the Biden administration kind of
like like I said, when we did last time, did
a little side quest to like kind of like slap
them and be like you stay out of it. It
wasn't as complete as it could have been. You got me,
So in the meantime they kept doing it. Now America
(27:59):
be the quote unquote good big homies that they supposed
to be to Israel is like, all right, we need
to handle this light work now. This is something that
the Chief Executive Officer one Donald J.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Trump, is like, we need to do this right.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
So you put together what's called, like I said, the
Principals Committee to discuss the how Now, interesting thing I noticed,
as and other people I've noticed in this group text
is really in my mind just how regular ass these
dudes are. Because it sounds to me like jd Vance
(28:39):
the whole ass vice president who's also in this group. Now,
remember we's a lurker in here that nobody checked though,
head ass. Jd Vance really don't like the plan, you know,
I really think this is Europe's job, Like I don't
think we need to do this, and it really don't
help us anyway, because even the boats going through the
swess Canal that stuff go to Europe gonna help us.
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You know what I'm saying, which is a position, very
narrow focused, incomplete position, reminded me of my daughter. When
I'll be like, hey, can you pick up those books?
She'd be like why. I'm like, well, because they in
the living room and like we all got to use,
Like I didn't drop that book. Why do I have
to pick that one up? I didn't do that one.
(29:21):
I'm like, sweetheart, just all I'm saying is like we
all this is a shared space, we all use, so
pick up the book, right, clean.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Up, clean up the counter.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
She's like, I'll clean up my crumbs, but I'm not
gonna I don't like I only sit right here, so
I'm gonna wipe up right here, Like are you serious?
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Right now? She says that, but she's nine jd vance anyway.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Dang, I'm feeling a little more saucy this time than
I did last time, probably because I got to do
it again.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Anyway, So there's a disagreement.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Now again, this is human because when you get into
group text with your coworkers, of course you're gonna complain
about the boss. There's another man in their names, Evehn Miller,
who's the kiss ass you know what I'm saying. Who
They actually all have to make him happy because he
the one closest to the president, you feel me, So
you're gonna like even like, dude, listen, y'all you got
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family group text?
Speaker 2 (30:15):
How many of them?
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Because I know you got a group text where one
of the cousins ain't in it, so y'all could talk
shit about that cousin.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Am I like? Is this? Am I making this up?
Is that not all of our lives?
Speaker 1 (30:27):
So to me again, the use of the emojis, I'm
not finna drag them on stuff like that, Like there's
because that's part of the story too. Like these dudes
were like doing like fist bump you know, wh white
boys love the fist bump emoji? You know, the flag,
the flex arm that's because they regular. These are regular dudes, right,
(30:48):
So I'm not gonna drag him about that. I got
a homeboy in one of my group chats still do
the old school smile, the like the colon with the
with the parentheses.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
He got all the emotion on his phone.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
He just likes doing that, and I'm like, it makes
you look like a douchebag. But it's but listen, you
would never know who that is, you know why, because
that's the rules of the group chat anyway. So they
just kind of like talking back and forth about what
they gotta do. Right. So if you regular Jeff, regular
(31:24):
regular Jeff who just works at one of the largest
speed outlets in the country, you like, surely they're gonna
know I'm in this group text.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Should I be it?
Speaker 1 (31:38):
I mean, you would probably think this might be a prank,
this might be one of the armies. But let me
shut up just in case. Then all of a sudden,
head ass pete head ass shoots out the PDF. That's like,
all right, this is what we're finna do.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Now.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Everybody being regular understands that that would be something called
Everybody regular would understand that that would be something called
a war plan, but it technically is not. It's technically
the right word. If you're gonna, well, actually, you know,
you're gonna push your eyeb you know, your glasses up top, like, well, actually,
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it's actually not a war plan.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
The right word is concept of operation.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
And since the Trump administration are teenagers, they're gonna be like,
we aren't doing any war plans.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Now.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Again, if you're being regular, at some point you're gonna
be like, yo, is this.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Should I have not known this?
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Like? Should this? Should this be? I feel like I
should have noticed? And then there's these real time updates.
And as these real times updates are happening, Pete head
Ass keeps talking about how our nation is still secure.
Our information is cued to the op set. That's what
that's called operation security. He was like, we still got
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good op set, meaning everybody don't know our plans. We
able to do this. But little did this dude know
without checking that his op sect that he's.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
So proud of is currently, oh.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
My godness, he is currently compromised.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Listen, this is you cheating on your spouse.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
In front of your ring camera, your Google nest while
you telling your little side piece. Don't worry about it.
They ain't gonna have a No, we're still secure. Nothing's
gone out.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
You done gave.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Your homeboy's wife's log in information, so she watching your
head ass.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
And they going, yo, should I not know? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
If you've ever caught a friend cheating on day booth day,
it's a weird.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
It's weird.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
I know I've been out and had one of my
homeboys get real flirty and it's like, Okay, at what
point do I be like, my nigga, you let's let's
go to the It's time to go to the hotel room,
like all right, we're going home, all right, all right,
says it's good to meet you.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Were going home.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
At some point do you step in and be like,
my nigga, you finna ruin your life right now? I
think it's about time you shut the fuck up. Like
I don't like, when do you say, like, was I
supposed to see this? I don't know if I was
supposed to see this? Only it's bombs, that's like this
what experienced. So he go okay, well, uh, I mean,
(35:07):
I mean were here now? So as he's reading these
things and getting these alerts. My man, Jeffrey got the
sense to turn on the TV, and Goldberg is like, damn,
the TV going, we have breaking news this and this
and this happened. And he's watching and being like, damn,
that is exactly what was on this PDF something, miss.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Man, what the this was real?
Speaker 1 (35:33):
So and look look look, look look here's here's my
favorite part.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
They still don't know he in the group text.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
They still ain't checked Nobody at any.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
This thing went on for days.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Nobody at any point was like, who is the two
O two number? Now the fallout after this? All right,
(36:21):
so the whole thing go down. Jeff has the integrity
to remove himself from this group text like cause he's like,
you know, I probably should I probably should be out
of here now. I don't know, like listen, I'm trying
to humanize this thing. I don't know if it's secondhand
embarrassment to where you don't want to like announce yourself
(36:43):
in there at this point to be like, yo, y'all, hey,
I've been here the whole time.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Like do you embarrass him.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Because again, you know how signal works, they just gonna
delete the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Right, or do you just be like like, let me
just like we.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Would all do, grab a few screenshots, who like, come on, fam,
now again I'm adding some human color. Jeffrey Goldberg is
a professional, but he's also just a dude.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Do you think he sent it to his group text screenshots?
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Do you think him and his homies was like, oh shit,
shill fuck o fuck what? Oh my god, dude, dude, dude,
shut up, just shut up and listen. Just dude, tell
me everything. I tell me everything.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
So you think he was sending into his group text
I don't know anyway.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
So once it all gets out, we get to see
the judges and the Congress drop the thissue photos where
they keep together showing its issue. Right, So they did,
these five people who was in this group chat did
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what all of us, anybody would do in this particular
situation when you found out you have broken the one
of one golden rule. Right, there's no there's not even
a reason to bring up the hypocrisy of the but
her emails like that is so obvious right now, we
can't even bring that up right now. But the judge,
(38:30):
James Boisburg, he's the chief US District judge in Washington,
he was like, man, what. I'm gonna need them texts.
I'm gonna need them texting. I'm gonna need you to
turn on I'm gonna need you to turn over your phone.
This is this is insane. Y'all gonna have to give
(38:52):
me the phone. But that was only after the Atlantic.
That's itself. As President Trump about it at a press conference, like, yo, hey,
is it normal that yo, like the highest level of
security people just use signal.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
He was like, I don't even know what signal is.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
You talk about it, man, I swear to God, a
man who ain't ain't seeing an email when he was
buying that Tesla on the front of the White House lawn.
I promise you that man ain't driven a car since
nineteen eighty four. And I bet you he only did
because it was funny. One, you a New Yorker. Secondly,
you filthy rich. You ain't driven when the last time
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you drove a car. So I'm like, I swear that
man has not touched the computer. He do not, He
do not know what signal is. Tell you that right now.
He don't know what signal is. He was like, I
don't know what you mean. He was like, yeah, bro,
I I'm the Atlantic from the Atlantic.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
I was added to this group chat while y'all was
talking about the hooty thing.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
He was like, well, the Atlantic is trash, my nigga,
What the hell does the Atlantic have to do with
what I'm asking you?
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Right now?
Speaker 1 (40:02):
People are doing exactly what people would do. They would
turn into shaggy.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
It wasn't me.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Because that was Tozi's answer. TOZI was like, I wasn't
in that group chat. They was like, uh, is this
You showed them the camera showed them the phone, like
is you not TC? Marco Rubio is like I wasn't
there either. They was like, you're not Mr showing this
fool's avatar. I just pictured an avatar of Himo like
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doing the dude that just caught a fish photo.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
With the reflective glasses? Is Marco Rubio? Like that ain't me? No?
Oh lord. They was like it wasn't me.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
And so the Congress and the judge had to keep
being like, sir man, is this you? Yes, this is you?
And they was like okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
it wasn't me. You know, when you get caught cheating
or you get caught in a lie, you only admit
to some of it, hoping that the rest of us
(41:12):
could go away and listen, let me ask you this.
Are you old enough to understand that that never works?
It don't work. So they just start okay, yeah, okay, yeah,
that was me, but it's it wasn't We didn't do
nothing classified. They was like, our war plans not classified.
(41:33):
They was like, well, actually, wasn't a war plan. We
got you, it wasn't a war plan.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Excuse me?
Speaker 1 (41:39):
Was the concept of operation that's not classified? Well, it
depends on what you what you mean, what you mean
what you mean classified?
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Is At this point, they was just.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
Like, my brother in Christ, my brother in Christ, can
you just admit that this is a big deal.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
They was like, nah, it's not that serious. It's not
that I find.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
So much joy in how absolutely flabbergasted our Congress was
by this answer, like, man, what.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
The fuck is happening?
Speaker 3 (42:33):
Not that serious?
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Oh man, oh my god, I just think this is
so funny.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Now.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
Pete Hexeth Pete hadass defense is just like, again, well,
Jeffrey Goldberg's pussy, That's basically what he's saying. Well, he's
a pussy, So like it doesn't matter, And I'm like,
are you are you serious? They're like, I think you're
majoring on the miners here. I think the point is
(43:13):
we kick some hooty ass. Nothing went wrong, no harm,
no foul, who's on his mistake, no big deal.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
And Jeff's a dick. So I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Why don't I don't. I don't know where the scandal is.
I don't understand where the scandal is. Like with a
stray face. That's that's the attitude. Now, Ian Goldenberg, Okay,
this is an article in Politico.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
He used to work at the White House and in
the Pentagon. Now he works for some psych like Israeli
like group, some fund raising heads, fun type shit. Anyway,
he asked him about, like, YO, does this seem like
weird that you would use signal? Here's why signal comes
in later because I, unlike many people, read Project twenty
(44:05):
twenty five. And one of the reasons you use signal
as specified in Project twenty twenty five is because of
its vanishing. Why you're supposed to use a SKIFF, which
is a sensitive compartmented information facility. You know that image
(44:29):
where you only see photos of like the President and
the Joint Jeeves of Staff and they sitting around the
table or they looking at the screen, like when we
killed Osama bin Laden the war room can't you can't
even bring your phone in there, like you can't, Like
this is the most sensitive. Now, if you one of
these five people, you got somebody following you all the
(44:52):
time to make sure if you need to get to
a private line, you can get to a private line.
But I understand sometimes that's like it's a lot. They
build them into your basement. They build a skiff. If
you get that level of clearance, you get a skiff
in your basement, it's somebody next to you that you
could be like, hey, I can't use this phone.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
I gotta use the other one. Right, that's a reality.
You don't just so be your phone.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
But they're using signal instead of a skiff because it vanishes.
Because skiffs, you have to remember, at that level of
national security, all of your communications. You're supposed to turn
that into the Library of Congress. You need to have
a record of all of it. That's the law. But
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if it vanishes, you can't get called into court because
whatever we talk about on signal, you could tell the
Supreme Court like oh it's gone now, Congress is gone
now like it gets deleted off the thought you'd have
to ask signal. You'd have to subpoena signal to see
if you can get in two day servers. And I
(46:03):
don't even know if they keep our information. It's into
end encrypted. Well that's you know, it's protected, that's our privacy.
So you use signals so you could do some shit
that won't go into the records. So the shit was
on purpose. It's not random, it's not them being lazy.
It's like, I don't well, I would say it's both.
(46:24):
It's both easy because you can anybody can download signal.
You can create a group text. You ain't got to
like get it. Like, I just need to tell y'all, now,
how many times you ever called somebody like or not
call them because what kind of a dinosaur? Cause, but
you email somebody and then you text them and be like, hey,
I sent that email because I need you to respond.
The alert goes to the same phone. I just need
(46:46):
to answer right now, like don't I mean, like, don't
we all do this? But again, the stakes are incredibly
lower or not. Jeff so in Goldenberg, notice that they
asked him like basically they asked him like, Okay, what
are the main takeaways you see from this? The first
(47:07):
main takeaway was to see the discussion among these high
ranking officials, because by the time it gets to them,
it's like, don't nobody care what you think right now?
Speaker 2 (47:18):
You supposed to just do the thing.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
It was interesting to see jd Vance really not necessarily
be down now. To me, that was very humid because again,
who doesn't get with their coworkers and talk shit about
their boss? Like, who don't do that, you know what
I'm saying, or just disagree with what the call.
Speaker 2 (47:36):
Everybody you're not gonna always like to play. It's just interesting.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
That there's that level of like disagreement and honestly, like
not what they disagreed on, but the fact that there
is disagreement, to me is something that is good. It's
good they're not autonatons. Now they gonna be autonatons, but
it's good that they we get a glimpse into seeing
(48:02):
that they're not. I think people want to understand, especially
when it comes to politics. People think that you think
you want to know how the sausage is made. You
think you do, but when you see how it's made,
like everybody says you'll probably never eat another sausage again,
or you might be like, is good. The point is,
(48:25):
I don't know if you really want to know how
the sausage is made. Another thing he noticed is that, like, dude,
this is completely avoidable because I mean, do you got
like a Google drive? You know, when you trying to
share a link, I get a little learnt that says
(48:46):
this person that you're sending this link to it does
not have a prop hip hop dot.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
Com email address. You sure you want to see it?
Just Google? I'm just sending.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
The written out lyrics for the song we're releasing on
April eleventh.
Speaker 2 (49:05):
But you know, like I have to go No, it's cool.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
Yes, So if you was using a dot gov, Jeff
wouldn't have got on the thing anyway because he ain't
got a dot gov. So this could have not happened,
right had you just followed the direction. Now the next
thing is to wonder, truly what Trump thinks he gonna
(49:35):
get they back. He gonna try to push this down,
No big deal, it's a witch hunt. I love the
phrase witch hunt about this one. I think that's probably
the funniest one of the there's so many funniest parts
in this because for this to be a witch hunt,
it would mean we were hunting.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
We already got it.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
It's on the internet. You can read the text. And
is it a witch I mean it's sitting there, casts
and spells. There is no question that the thing happened.
So you can't even call it a witch hunt because
it's found. Is it a big deal? I mean you
(50:14):
gonna try to tell me is not? Now, why would
me and you care? Well, I suppose why would we care?
I mean you'd say, prop why would I care? I
didn't vote with Trump. I'm not in the military. I
don't know anyone that's in the military. I don't know
(50:35):
anyone who has a loved one in the military. I'm
not the child of any sort of veteran. I don't
know anybody in Iran, never met an immigrant. I'm not
concerned about the secrets of my safety and my information.
You you people my sarcasm here, because the reason why
(50:57):
it is matters is because we could die.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
Like can you imagine though.
Speaker 1 (51:03):
Like if as easy as it is to hack somebody's phone,
to get into somebody's TECHTI, it's on somebody's hard drive
to know exactly where these bombs are going. And maybe
that's your cousin. Maybe that's your nephew that's gonna have
to carry out this mission. Maybe that's your niece that's
gonna have to carry out this mission.
Speaker 2 (51:24):
Now they know where you are. Now they know where
your niece is.
Speaker 1 (51:30):
Like you, like you could like you, you're putting us
like they could die.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
I thought y'all was the military lovers. You could die? Oh,
because nobody said.
Speaker 1 (51:42):
Who's the two O two number? Maybe Trump hates it.
Maybe Trump still don't know what signal is. Maybe Trump
is like, I'm just gonna try to play as low,
but he doing what every black mama does once everybody leaves.
You already know what I'm finna say. Black people, how
dare you embarrass me in public? If there's one thing
(52:06):
you let me let me tell you something. There are
a few things that are mortal sins when it comes
to black parents. There are a few things that your
parents are not. They not Boo Boo the fool. They
not one of your little friends. They not to be
(52:30):
played with. And for some reason, black parents love the
word audacity. You had the audacity to embarrass me in public?
Now normally, what black parents would do is you will
embarrass it. Sometimes they be not normally. Sometimes they be like,
embarrass me in public. I'm embarrass you in public? That
(52:55):
was my grandma. You're gonna embarrass me. I may embarrass you,
but other times it's all right, we'll take it. Okay, Okay,
Mss Johnson, she shut the door. Turn around you and
they did that. Donna beat the breaks up. How dare
you embarrass me in public? Now I'm gonna get out
(53:21):
there and I'm gonna defend you. I ain't gonna I
ain't gonna let them talk about you. Don't you ever
embarrass me in public again. We're gonna see how obedient
these five people a finna be after this?
Speaker 2 (53:38):
The politics, y'all?
Speaker 1 (53:52):
All right, now, don't you hit stop on this pod.
You better listen to these credits. I need you to
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(54:55):
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Speaker 2 (55:05):
These people is not smarter than you. We'll see y'all
next week.
Media. All right, First of all, my bad about last
week with confusing Dutch and Danish, and it seems like
I didn't catch myself till the end of the thing,
but it mixed up my white people. My bad and
shout out for y'all being gracious to me. Yeah, Dutch
ain't Danish. Danish ain't Dutch.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Good politics.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I'm sorry, y'all.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Okay, okay, who hasn't texted the wrong person?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Oops? Wrong text a? Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
First of all, the group chat is sacred. This is
internationally known. Everyone who has ever participated in a group
chat knows. We all know in the depths of our
souls that if anything in this group chat has ever
got out, our families, our careers, our children's perception of us,
(01:59):
our friendship destroyed. I would argue that the group chat
is the last sacred space on earth.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
This is where you get.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
To have all your debauchery, You get to be devolved,
share the dankest of memes because you know it's sacred,
and everybody in it understands with the equal amount of
debauchery that we have all put into this thing, we
all understand that this cannot come out. But you've been
(02:35):
added to a group chat before, and when you get
added to a group chat, why was you not like,
let me first make sure I know everybody's number in it.
And if you don't know, let's say it was a
work group chat, you'd be like, Yo, this is prop,
(02:55):
I'm the six two sixth number. Everybody say who they
are so we could save you save your numbers. At
some point you do that in the group chat, and
if somebody don't do it, you hit the person you
know directly. Have y'all never been in a group chat
and be like, yo, who's the Hey, who's the nine
or nine number?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Like who added in?
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Because I'm not finna, just start talking if I don't
know everybody in the group, especially the one that ain't
introduced themselves, who don't double check? Now, if you was
adding in a group and you don't know anybody, like
(03:38):
none of the numbers, you might be like, oh, maybe
this was a mistake, and what do you do? You
lurk to see who wouldn't lurk? You just you never
like you just never know. This might be dope, or
you might be like this ain't none of my business
and you just dip out. I've been added the group
text on accident, and I realized, like, either A, this
(03:58):
is spam or B. Y'all probably meant another prop or
another Jason, but I'll usually hit that person directly, like, YO,
would you trying to add me? Have you ever back
when voice messages voicemail was a thing. You even had
somebody acted like pocket like butt dial you and then
you hear them talking. And one time I asked somebody
(04:21):
butt dial me and they was on a date and
they ended up and they was talking trash about me.
I got forty five minutes of them talking trash about me.
But this is why you double check. And the stakes
that we talk about is maybe a little bit of embarrassment,
(04:44):
maybe some repercussions at work, but at the end of
the day, everybody knows you don't let this get out
because this is sacred. So it would be safe to
assume that we all agree that the stakes maybe relatively
are low, but they're high enough to double check. Yeah,
(05:05):
I might lose a job, but let's just say this
group check required the highest of security clearances that our
country has the offer. How come nobody was like, yo,
who's the two O two number?
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Politics?
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Y'alls text.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Y'all, welcome to the who They's PC group chat small group, y'all.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
If it wasn't so not funny, this would be the
funniest four years that this country has ever off to
after if it wasn't so oh, I don't know, Nazish,
if it wasn't so fast. Yeah, So that abrupt, stopped
(06:39):
and outfit change that you're seeing right now on your
screen is we're hearing right now in your headphones. Is
the sights and sounds of a person who exported this
video wrong, and it only exported the first five minutes
of the show. And then last night, as in the
(07:03):
night before this was going to get edited, deleted the
original files from his hard drive because he was just
trying to make expect that is the sight and sound
that you are witnessing right now. I can't be more frustrated.
I don't know this has been This is Tuesday morning, okay,
(07:26):
this is the morning that Matt mixes and Masters needs
to go out on Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I try to have it to him.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
By Monday afternoon so that we can do all the
tweaks and stuff like that right now.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
But somehow I get to now model.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
The behavior that I wish our senators would give, which
is not just our senators, I mean our top five.
God damn it. I need to find freaking notes to
my bad That's all I'm saying. I don't know why
these people couldn't just be like, you know what, we
(08:09):
fucked up, We royally royally, just we fucked up.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Guys. Listen, Jason, my name is Jason.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
You know what I'm saying, prop is like, that's the
nickname that I got when I was thirteen.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
But Jason born of janis I fucked up.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
I deleted these files knowing full well, and I'm telling
you y'all, my practice is to don't delete files that
till the episode come out, just in case your boy
didn't do it this time, because I thought I needed
hard drive space.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
God dog.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
And you know what the thing is like, if you've
ever recorded something, you get it, it's never gonna be
as good as you remember. This version that you're about
to hear right now that I'm gonna try to go
back and find my notes on, it ain't ever gonna
be as good as the one. O Lord, I'm gonna
pull up my notes now because I was at least
(09:10):
wise enough to throw the notes into the Google doc
rather than just crack jokes with y'all. Ah, man, I've
never been I'm so frustrated right now. I was.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
I was googling how to like how do you empty
the trash?
Speaker 1 (09:26):
And I know some of you, like, uh, some of
you computer nerds would probably know how to tell me
how to get into my deleted files. But I'm like,
at this point, you might as well just re recorded.
So here we are, Matt, Oh lord, cue the theme music.
(10:02):
All right, here we go, God dog, I still feel
that pit that butterflies. I feel that, I still feel
that pit in my stomach, the pit for which these
men should have felt when they realized what they was doing. Now,
what I'm assuming is you already noticed because it has
(10:24):
been all of a matter of fact, what sucks about
this world we in is like y'all have moved on
from this. The memes are already incredible. One of the
dopest memes I saw was the picture from a Succession
when whole Boy kept sending the Dick pics to his
like basically his play Auntie, and then he realized he
(10:45):
just got caught and he was doing the McCaulay Culkin
little brother. I love that we've embraced the Maculkin family.
There's a guy in my church that looked just like
one of them, but I'm too shy to ask him
because he looks so much like him.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
And if he's not that he's like bro. People probably
say that all the time.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Y'all see this box of toilet paper right here or
this if you looking at this video, This is how
thrown off I am.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Normally because the doc zp.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Refer to her by her prefix uses the office, which
is my little recording studio as also storage, so I
usually try to move this stuff off camera. But I'm
so flustered right now from the reality of this situation
I'm in.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Which again I hope reflex.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
The hearts and minds of the PC small group at
this point, because the news move so fast, you should
already know what happened, bruh in some of the messiest,
sloppiest like I don't understand, I don't understand how at
(12:07):
the stakes that they're at that they wasn't more careful.
Now y'all listening, listen, I just do podcasts, so these
steaks are not that high. Okay, I'm gonna miss a meeting.
Matt's gonna have to stay up later. Ian's gonna have
to scramble. The stakes aren't that high. Let's just say
(12:27):
this was an actual group text, and maybe you was
talking trash about your boss. Maybe you had sent a
few pitches from the gym that you know you wasn't
posted to take of some of the nice, pretty round browns.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
That's what my whole boy used to call pooties. But
you see how I.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Don't really talk like that, but you talk like that
in the group text because you understand this is mutual destruction,
this is nuclear You post a double check that they're
trust inside the group text. Don't we all notice? Don't
we all notice? But alas, I'm gonna leave this in
(13:11):
the video. Normally I would edit this out. This is
Matt texting me being like, Yo, what are you gonna do?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
He said, do you use dropbox? Pro?
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Might be start saving episodes so you could keep the files.
I'm gonna text him right now and tell them what
I just text, y'all. I normally don't throw files away
until until the episode is out. I just got to
(13:51):
sloppy last night.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I didn't even drink.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I mean, like I I was standing in solidarity for
most of this month with the two of the three
mono theists religions that.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
You know fast right now you feel me.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
I was standing here in solidarity with with with my
brothers and sisters in Ramadan, and I was pushing my
flesh away, so I wasn't even distracted. I just did
some dumb shit. But when you do dumb shit, my
(14:36):
people again back to my point, you just you you
did some dumb shit.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
It is what it is.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
But this particular situation, if you don't know, the narrative,
was dumb shit that could cause lives.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Now let's get to it.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
If you don't know, by now, there was a situation
a few weeks ago where let's let's go with the narrative.
So if you are someone who's been pursuing your dreams,
your dreams of journalism, you know, fought and scrapped and
especially journalism in the era where they you get one
(15:26):
of them get you get killed in by the head
of a country, you get blown up in Palestine, you
get like, this is a hard time to be a journalist.
Now in America, we have this martyred fetish, this kink
about believing we suffering in relation to the rest of
(15:50):
the world. Obviously you know I'm talking about because obviously
they are real suffering, and suffering.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Is of course relative.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
But for some reason we like to believe, especially these
especially especially uh Christians in America, they love to believe
they persecuted, they got like king like they feel like
they left out, like y'all, like y'all left out of
the persecution ring.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
You want to you want to go back to the
Roman Empire where y'all burn by you like you trying
to you try you want to be like that. You
feel me. It's not y'all. Listen, Christians, y'all are y'all
have been mildly inconvenienced, but now you won't talk. Okay,
y'all got it. It's your world. You got your never cannezzer. Okay,
he's in the he's in the he's in the office.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
You got him. Right.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
If you're a journalist in America, you getting dragged. If
you're a journalist in America trying to actually do your job,
you getting dragged. But every once in a while you
get an alert and if and if you are just
work your way up to the top of a reputable
(16:57):
news source called.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
The Atlantic, and your name is Jeffrey Goldberd.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
You might have been sitting in your car chilling and
then you get an alert on Signal.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Now.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Signal, if you don't know, is a text messaging service
similar to a WhatsApp that's just not so Zuckerbirdye.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Right, it's got Endo end encryption.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Now again, if you're an immigrant, you've been on WhatsApp
for the last ten years, yo, saying that's how you
talk to your family, right, Signal is another option for
it because of the same like into end encryption and
your nation don't matter.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Now we cool Zone media.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
We use Signal for probably the same reasons anyone else
would use Signal one. It's convenient too, it's the it's
got the privacy, it's got the vanishing modes because you
could be like so you could be ratchet like on
Snapchat and you feel me because you know it's going
just gonna disappear, which will come back, which we'll talk
about a little bit later. But yeah, we use it
because we're passing around stuff, you know, and Molly and
(17:54):
them got the weird little guys that they be talking
about that don't like them, you know, so he has
gotten uh many a threats. You feel me Robert had
to you know, beat the brakes off or not or
almost did these. So you know, so we got people
like looking for us, not for me, but looking for them.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
You know, maybe they are looking for me. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I think I was on a list at one point.
So we be trying to keep a lot of our
communications a little bit private.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
But we're podcasters.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
It's kind of not that serious. It's serious, but it's
not that serious. So you jeff you money all business bloop.
You get an alert to join the whothy PC small group.
Now PC stands for Principals Committees, so this is the
(18:47):
highest of clearance, okay, And you get this alert from
this man named Mike Walls.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Now Mike Waltz is the.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
National Security Advisor, so like you're the guy to make
sure that the security of the nation stays secure, and
you get this alert. Now here's the thing. There's a
lot of guys in my phone named Robert. There's probably
a lot of dudes in his phone named Jeffrey.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Honest mistake at first, so.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
But also probably a mistake that wouldn't have happened had
you not used signal. If you're on the audio version,
you didn't see me scoot forward and get really close
to the camera. But had you not used signal, probably
could have avoided this whole thing. Anyway, get alert from
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Mike Wallas. Now, if you Jeffrey Goldberg, you're thinking a
couple of things. One of the things you might be
thinking is maybe this is like you know, you're just
gonna alert me of yeah, like basic stuff, like all right,
there's gonna be a press briefing. You're just letting me
know directly. It's crazy that you stop my phone, say
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phone numbers, say, considering how much your boss don't like me,
But it is what it is.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
You have to communicate with the press, like.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
The reality is, until Trump completes his breaking of the
US norms, you still got to communicate with the press.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
So a little weird to.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Get hit up directly by him and not one of
his people's, but it is what it is. So you
joined the group. Why would you not join the group.
Then you start looking around as to who in this group? Hey,
who's in the group. The head of the CIA, you
got Mark Rubio, the Secretary of State, you got Toaci Gabbert,
(20:55):
the National Intelligence you got John Radcliffe, and and you got.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Pete head ass. Hec seth.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
That's that man's name, he Pete head ass. Pete head ass,
hec seth head ass.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
How do you describe a head ass?
Speaker 1 (21:14):
You?
Speaker 2 (21:14):
What do you like I did to him? Head ass?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
You throw a head ass at the end of Like,
what's great about being black, especially when you're gonna roast somebody,
is like you could just describe what you see on
a person and then just say looking ass at the
end of it.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Or old head ass.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Right, you got a dude that's doing quick calculations in
his head about how much the tip is your long
division head ass.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Your old math professor looking ass.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Like. The thing about being black is we get to
roast you even about good stuff like your prompt on
time head ass, Yo on time is already late? Looking ass. Anyway,
Pete had ass excess. So they are in this group.
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But most people, again, who have gaming avatars, everybody knows
unless it's like.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
The hommies put your real name in that.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
And even for me, I have friends who are couple
A lists, a few A minus lists.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
I saved them under different names. In my phone.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
They not saved under their actual names. Why just in
case something gets out, I just like, y'all.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Don't y'all don't know this. Y'all don't know this right.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
So anyway, TC is Tozy Gabbert, Right, you got Mr
in there, Marco Rubio and Ani Food start talking now again,
don't understand why nobody was like, hey, who's this other number?
I don't know what y'alseton. My guess is you assumed
that that was somebody's aid. But I don't understand why
you ain't asked. Why you ain't hit the person that
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added you to the group and be like, hey, I
recognize everybody, but who's that?
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Like, who's aid is that?
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yo?
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Who's man? Says?
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Hey, how you doing helming? Everybody else's introducer? So we
all know each other? Like who do you work for?
Why did you not ask? It's like they've never been
in a group chat before.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Anyway. This is what happens when you hire people that
just rock with.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
You when you anyway, So they talking about their plans
about how they going to drop these bombs on the Hoothies.
Now quick recap if you don't remember who the Hoothis
are Houthie who. We did an episode on the Hoothi's
that was called the side Quest during the You Wasn't
(23:54):
Outside episodes.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Who the Hoothis were and are?
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Is a militi group in Yemen, right, and they are,
like most militant groups out there, backed by Iran, but
they also have their own issues around the liberation of
the country of Yemen.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Now, Yemen has.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Been in a ridiculous civil war for a long time.
As for like for there's parts of Yemen that I've
wanted to visit because they have these weird, these amazing
like this island of these like trees that look like
they're upside down, look like the branches look like roots.
(24:38):
It's pretty crazy, right, they have that. But they also
have probably some of the best coffee on earth.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Why it costs so much too, If you.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Ever get somewhere and they have like yemen these beans,
Yemeny coffee. That's like a running joke with like y'all
a lot of my Muslim like friends. It's like, dude,
you're supposed to be fascinating, but the kids are going
to get Yemeni coffee right in. In their defense, Yemen
got some of the best coff of y'all earth right anyway,
partially because like they're not they have less like interbreeding,
(25:13):
like modification. It's like it's truly just yemen soil. It's
delicious anyway. So Yemen and the hooties, obviously they don't
like the treatment of the citizens of Gaza and the
people of Palestine. They feel like everybody else feels, except
(25:37):
for Saudi Arabia about what Israel's doing.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
That y'all, what you're doing is wrong.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Inhumane and genocidal and apartheid. But again they're funded by Iran.
Now what they've been doing is essentially like as ships
come through the Red Sea and go through the Suez Canal.
Now a Suez Canal is up in Egypt where you know,
you know, the little like if you picture in the
(26:04):
Horn of Africa where Egypt all the way down to Ethiopia,
and then there's like a little lego piece that look
like it fits a little puzzle piece looks like it
fits right in between them things. So the bottom of
that thing, so that big thing is like Saudi Arabia,
and the bottom of that thing right there is the
country a Yemen. So if you going through the Suez Canal.
Like your other option would be go all the way
(26:26):
around Africa to get to the Atlantic Ocean, right, or
you can come from the Indian Ocean from one side
of the country, cut through the little shortcut right up
the Red Sea, go through the Suez Canal. You already
in the Mediterranean. Look you in Asia, minor you in Europe.
You already made it right, and then you could go
into the open Atlantic Ocean rather going all the way
(26:46):
down to the South Pole and shit to try to
get down around South Africa. That's gonna take you forever, right,
so you go through the Seuez Canal to get there.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
So what So what the who thieves been doing is.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
They've been throwing like like throwing rocks, throw a little
like like more not acatomic bonds, but throwing mortars at
the boats trying to get through here.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
It's kind of like it's annoying, you understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
So it's like like if if if somebody's scrapping and
then there's just like a punch that come from the
side somebody just jumped in from the side where you
just or the dude that just come by while you
running and just kind of stick leg out trip them. Right,
that's kind of what the who Thi's been doing. They
just been tripping, you know what I'm saying. And that's
their way to help with this is the guys that
they just you know, like we got our own shit
(27:33):
we gotta worry about. But you know, but if there's
a way we can like mess with this, that's what
we're gonna do. Biden during the Biden administration kind of
like like I said, when we did last time, did
a little side quest to like kind of like slap
them and be like you stay out of it. It
wasn't as complete as it could have been. You got me,
So in the meantime they kept doing it. Now America
(27:59):
be the quote unquote good big homies that they supposed
to be to Israel is like, all right, we need
to handle this light work now. This is something that
the Chief Executive Officer one Donald J.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Trump, is like, we need to do this right.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
So you put together what's called, like I said, the
Principals Committee to discuss the how Now, interesting thing I noticed,
as and other people I've noticed in this group text
is really in my mind just how regular ass these
dudes are. Because it sounds to me like jd Vance
(28:39):
the whole ass vice president who's also in this group. Now,
remember we's a lurker in here that nobody checked though,
head ass. Jd Vance really don't like the plan, you know,
I really think this is Europe's job, Like I don't
think we need to do this, and it really don't
help us anyway, because even the boats going through the
swess Canal that stuff go to Europe gonna help us.
(29:00):
You know what I'm saying, which is a position, very
narrow focused, incomplete position, reminded me of my daughter. When
I'll be like, hey, can you pick up those books?
She'd be like why. I'm like, well, because they in
the living room and like we all got to use,
Like I didn't drop that book. Why do I have
to pick that one up? I didn't do that one.
(29:21):
I'm like, sweetheart, just all I'm saying is like we
all this is a shared space, we all use, so
pick up the book, right, clean.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Up, clean up the counter.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
She's like, I'll clean up my crumbs, but I'm not
gonna I don't like I only sit right here, so
I'm gonna wipe up right here, Like are you serious?
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Right now? She says that, but she's nine jd vance anyway.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Dang, I'm feeling a little more saucy this time than
I did last time, probably because I got to do
it again.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Anyway, So there's a disagreement.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Now again, this is human because when you get into
group text with your coworkers, of course you're gonna complain
about the boss. There's another man in their names, Evehn Miller,
who's the kiss ass you know what I'm saying. Who
They actually all have to make him happy because he
the one closest to the president, you feel me, So
you're gonna like even like, dude, listen, y'all you got
(30:14):
family group text?
Speaker 2 (30:15):
How many of them?
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Because I know you got a group text where one
of the cousins ain't in it, so y'all could talk
shit about that cousin.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Am I like? Is this? Am I making this up?
Is that not all of our lives?
Speaker 1 (30:27):
So to me again, the use of the emojis, I'm
not finna drag them on stuff like that, Like there's
because that's part of the story too. Like these dudes
were like doing like fist bump you know, wh white
boys love the fist bump emoji? You know, the flag,
the flex arm that's because they regular. These are regular dudes, right,
(30:48):
So I'm not gonna drag him about that. I got
a homeboy in one of my group chats still do
the old school smile, the like the colon with the
with the parentheses.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
He got all the emotion on his phone.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
He just likes doing that, and I'm like, it makes
you look like a douchebag. But it's but listen, you
would never know who that is, you know why, because
that's the rules of the group chat anyway. So they
just kind of like talking back and forth about what
they gotta do. Right. So if you regular Jeff, regular
(31:24):
regular Jeff who just works at one of the largest
speed outlets in the country, you like, surely they're gonna
know I'm in this group text.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Should I be it?
Speaker 1 (31:38):
I mean, you would probably think this might be a prank,
this might be one of the armies. But let me
shut up just in case. Then all of a sudden,
head ass pete head ass shoots out the PDF. That's like,
all right, this is what we're finna do.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Now.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Everybody being regular understands that that would be something called
Everybody regular would understand that that would be something called
a war plan, but it technically is not. It's technically
the right word. If you're gonna, well, actually, you know,
you're gonna push your eyeb you know, your glasses up top, like, well, actually,
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it's actually not a war plan.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
The right word is concept of operation.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
And since the Trump administration are teenagers, they're gonna be like,
we aren't doing any war plans.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Now.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Again, if you're being regular, at some point you're gonna
be like, yo, is this.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Should I have not known this?
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Like? Should this? Should this be? I feel like I
should have noticed? And then there's these real time updates.
And as these real times updates are happening, Pete head
Ass keeps talking about how our nation is still secure.
Our information is cued to the op set. That's what
that's called operation security. He was like, we still got
(33:07):
good op set, meaning everybody don't know our plans. We
able to do this. But little did this dude know
without checking that his op sect that he's.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
So proud of is currently, oh.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
My godness, he is currently compromised.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Listen, this is you cheating on your spouse.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
In front of your ring camera, your Google nest while
you telling your little side piece. Don't worry about it.
They ain't gonna have a No, we're still secure. Nothing's
gone out.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
You done gave.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Your homeboy's wife's log in information, so she watching your
head ass.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
And they going, yo, should I not know? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
If you've ever caught a friend cheating on day booth day,
it's a weird.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
It's weird.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
I know I've been out and had one of my
homeboys get real flirty and it's like, Okay, at what
point do I be like, my nigga, you let's let's
go to the It's time to go to the hotel room,
like all right, we're going home, all right, all right,
says it's good to meet you.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Were going home.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
At some point do you step in and be like,
my nigga, you finna ruin your life right now? I
think it's about time you shut the fuck up. Like
I don't like, when do you say, like, was I
supposed to see this? I don't know if I was
supposed to see this? Only it's bombs, that's like this
what experienced. So he go okay, well, uh, I mean,
(35:07):
I mean were here now? So as he's reading these
things and getting these alerts. My man, Jeffrey got the
sense to turn on the TV, and Goldberg is like, damn,
the TV going, we have breaking news this and this
and this happened. And he's watching and being like, damn,
that is exactly what was on this PDF something, miss.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Man, what the this was real?
Speaker 1 (35:33):
So and look look look, look look here's here's my
favorite part.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
They still don't know he in the group text.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
They still ain't checked Nobody at any.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
This thing went on for days.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Nobody at any point was like, who is the two
O two number? Now the fallout after this? All right,
(36:21):
so the whole thing go down. Jeff has the integrity
to remove himself from this group text like cause he's like,
you know, I probably should I probably should be out
of here now. I don't know, like listen, I'm trying
to humanize this thing. I don't know if it's secondhand
embarrassment to where you don't want to like announce yourself
(36:43):
in there at this point to be like, yo, y'all, hey,
I've been here the whole time.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Like do you embarrass him.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Because again, you know how signal works, they just gonna
delete the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Right, or do you just be like like, let me
just like we.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Would all do, grab a few screenshots, who like, come on, fam,
now again I'm adding some human color. Jeffrey Goldberg is
a professional, but he's also just a dude.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Do you think he sent it to his group text screenshots?
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Do you think him and his homies was like, oh shit,
shill fuck o fuck what? Oh my god, dude, dude, dude,
shut up, just shut up and listen. Just dude, tell
me everything. I tell me everything.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
So you think he was sending into his group text
I don't know anyway.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
So once it all gets out, we get to see
the judges and the Congress drop the thissue photos where
they keep together showing its issue. Right, So they did,
these five people who was in this group chat did
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what all of us, anybody would do in this particular
situation when you found out you have broken the one
of one golden rule. Right, there's no there's not even
a reason to bring up the hypocrisy of the but
her emails like that is so obvious right now, we
can't even bring that up right now. But the judge,
(38:30):
James Boisburg, he's the chief US District judge in Washington,
he was like, man, what. I'm gonna need them texts.
I'm gonna need them texting. I'm gonna need you to
turn on I'm gonna need you to turn over your phone.
This is this is insane. Y'all gonna have to give
(38:52):
me the phone. But that was only after the Atlantic.
That's itself. As President Trump about it at a press conference, like, yo, hey,
is it normal that yo, like the highest level of
security people just use signal.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
He was like, I don't even know what signal is.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
You talk about it, man, I swear to God, a
man who ain't ain't seeing an email when he was
buying that Tesla on the front of the White House lawn.
I promise you that man ain't driven a car since
nineteen eighty four. And I bet you he only did
because it was funny. One, you a New Yorker. Secondly,
you filthy rich. You ain't driven when the last time
(39:34):
you drove a car. So I'm like, I swear that
man has not touched the computer. He do not, He
do not know what signal is. Tell you that right now.
He don't know what signal is. He was like, I
don't know what you mean. He was like, yeah, bro,
I I'm the Atlantic from the Atlantic.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
I was added to this group chat while y'all was
talking about the hooty thing.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
He was like, well, the Atlantic is trash, my nigga,
What the hell does the Atlantic have to do with
what I'm asking you?
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Right now?
Speaker 1 (40:02):
People are doing exactly what people would do. They would
turn into shaggy.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
It wasn't me.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Because that was Tozi's answer. TOZI was like, I wasn't
in that group chat. They was like, uh, is this
You showed them the camera showed them the phone, like
is you not TC? Marco Rubio is like I wasn't
there either. They was like, you're not Mr showing this
fool's avatar. I just pictured an avatar of Himo like
(40:33):
doing the dude that just caught a fish photo.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
With the reflective glasses? Is Marco Rubio? Like that ain't me? No?
Oh lord. They was like it wasn't me.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
And so the Congress and the judge had to keep
being like, sir man, is this you? Yes, this is you?
And they was like okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
it wasn't me. You know, when you get caught cheating
or you get caught in a lie, you only admit
to some of it, hoping that the rest of us
(41:12):
could go away and listen, let me ask you this.
Are you old enough to understand that that never works?
It don't work. So they just start okay, yeah, okay, yeah,
that was me, but it's it wasn't We didn't do
nothing classified. They was like, our war plans not classified.
(41:33):
They was like, well, actually, wasn't a war plan. We
got you, it wasn't a war plan.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Excuse me?
Speaker 1 (41:39):
Was the concept of operation that's not classified? Well, it
depends on what you what you mean, what you mean
what you mean classified?
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Is At this point, they was just.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
Like, my brother in Christ, my brother in Christ, can
you just admit that this is a big deal.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
They was like, nah, it's not that serious. It's not
that I find.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
So much joy in how absolutely flabbergasted our Congress was
by this answer, like, man, what.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
The fuck is happening?
Speaker 3 (42:33):
Not that serious?
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Oh man, oh my god, I just think this is
so funny.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Now.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
Pete Hexeth Pete hadass defense is just like, again, well,
Jeffrey Goldberg's pussy, That's basically what he's saying. Well, he's
a pussy, So like it doesn't matter, And I'm like,
are you are you serious? They're like, I think you're
majoring on the miners here. I think the point is
(43:13):
we kick some hooty ass. Nothing went wrong, no harm,
no foul, who's on his mistake, no big deal.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
And Jeff's a dick. So I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Why don't I don't. I don't know where the scandal is.
I don't understand where the scandal is. Like with a
stray face. That's that's the attitude. Now, Ian Goldenberg, Okay,
this is an article in Politico.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
He used to work at the White House and in
the Pentagon. Now he works for some psych like Israeli
like group, some fund raising heads, fun type shit. Anyway,
he asked him about, like, YO, does this seem like
weird that you would use signal? Here's why signal comes
in later because I, unlike many people, read Project twenty
(44:05):
twenty five. And one of the reasons you use signal
as specified in Project twenty twenty five is because of
its vanishing. Why you're supposed to use a SKIFF, which
is a sensitive compartmented information facility. You know that image
(44:29):
where you only see photos of like the President and
the Joint Jeeves of Staff and they sitting around the
table or they looking at the screen, like when we
killed Osama bin Laden the war room can't you can't
even bring your phone in there, like you can't, Like
this is the most sensitive. Now, if you one of
these five people, you got somebody following you all the
(44:52):
time to make sure if you need to get to
a private line, you can get to a private line.
But I understand sometimes that's like it's a lot. They
build them into your basement. They build a skiff. If
you get that level of clearance, you get a skiff
in your basement, it's somebody next to you that you
could be like, hey, I can't use this phone.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
I gotta use the other one. Right, that's a reality.
You don't just so be your phone.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
But they're using signal instead of a skiff because it vanishes.
Because skiffs, you have to remember, at that level of
national security, all of your communications. You're supposed to turn
that into the Library of Congress. You need to have
a record of all of it. That's the law. But
(45:42):
if it vanishes, you can't get called into court because
whatever we talk about on signal, you could tell the
Supreme Court like oh it's gone now, Congress is gone
now like it gets deleted off the thought you'd have
to ask signal. You'd have to subpoena signal to see
if you can get in two day servers. And I
(46:03):
don't even know if they keep our information. It's into
end encrypted. Well that's you know, it's protected, that's our privacy.
So you use signals so you could do some shit
that won't go into the records. So the shit was
on purpose. It's not random, it's not them being lazy.
It's like, I don't well, I would say it's both.
(46:24):
It's both easy because you can anybody can download signal.
You can create a group text. You ain't got to
like get it. Like, I just need to tell y'all, now,
how many times you ever called somebody like or not
call them because what kind of a dinosaur? Cause, but
you email somebody and then you text them and be like, hey,
I sent that email because I need you to respond.
The alert goes to the same phone. I just need
(46:46):
to answer right now, like don't I mean, like, don't
we all do this? But again, the stakes are incredibly
lower or not. Jeff so in Goldenberg, notice that they
asked him like basically they asked him like, Okay, what
are the main takeaways you see from this? The first
(47:07):
main takeaway was to see the discussion among these high
ranking officials, because by the time it gets to them,
it's like, don't nobody care what you think right now?
Speaker 2 (47:18):
You supposed to just do the thing.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
It was interesting to see jd Vance really not necessarily
be down now. To me, that was very humid because again,
who doesn't get with their coworkers and talk shit about
their boss? Like, who don't do that, you know what
I'm saying, or just disagree with what the call.
Speaker 2 (47:36):
Everybody you're not gonna always like to play. It's just interesting.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
That there's that level of like disagreement and honestly, like
not what they disagreed on, but the fact that there
is disagreement, to me is something that is good. It's
good they're not autonatons. Now they gonna be autonatons, but
it's good that they we get a glimpse into seeing
(48:02):
that they're not. I think people want to understand, especially
when it comes to politics. People think that you think
you want to know how the sausage is made. You
think you do, but when you see how it's made,
like everybody says you'll probably never eat another sausage again,
or you might be like, is good. The point is,
(48:25):
I don't know if you really want to know how
the sausage is made. Another thing he noticed is that, like, dude,
this is completely avoidable because I mean, do you got
like a Google drive? You know, when you trying to
share a link, I get a little learnt that says
(48:46):
this person that you're sending this link to it does
not have a prop hip hop dot.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
Com email address. You sure you want to see it?
Just Google? I'm just sending.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
The written out lyrics for the song we're releasing on
April eleventh.
Speaker 2 (49:05):
But you know, like I have to go No, it's cool.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
Yes, So if you was using a dot gov, Jeff
wouldn't have got on the thing anyway because he ain't
got a dot gov. So this could have not happened,
right had you just followed the direction. Now the next
thing is to wonder, truly what Trump thinks he gonna
(49:35):
get they back. He gonna try to push this down,
No big deal, it's a witch hunt. I love the
phrase witch hunt about this one. I think that's probably
the funniest one of the there's so many funniest parts
in this because for this to be a witch hunt,
it would mean we were hunting.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
We already got it.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
It's on the internet. You can read the text. And
is it a witch I mean it's sitting there, casts
and spells. There is no question that the thing happened.
So you can't even call it a witch hunt because
it's found. Is it a big deal? I mean you
(50:14):
gonna try to tell me is not? Now, why would
me and you care? Well, I suppose why would we care?
I mean you'd say, prop why would I care? I
didn't vote with Trump. I'm not in the military. I
don't know anyone that's in the military. I don't know
(50:35):
anyone who has a loved one in the military. I'm
not the child of any sort of veteran. I don't
know anybody in Iran, never met an immigrant. I'm not
concerned about the secrets of my safety and my information.
You you people my sarcasm here, because the reason why
(50:57):
it is matters is because we could die.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
Like can you imagine though.
Speaker 1 (51:03):
Like if as easy as it is to hack somebody's phone,
to get into somebody's TECHTI, it's on somebody's hard drive
to know exactly where these bombs are going. And maybe
that's your cousin. Maybe that's your nephew that's gonna have
to carry out this mission. Maybe that's your niece that's
gonna have to carry out this mission.
Speaker 2 (51:24):
Now they know where you are. Now they know where
your niece is.
Speaker 1 (51:30):
Like you, like you could like you, you're putting us
like they could die.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
I thought y'all was the military lovers. You could die? Oh,
because nobody said.
Speaker 1 (51:42):
Who's the two O two number? Maybe Trump hates it.
Maybe Trump still don't know what signal is. Maybe Trump
is like, I'm just gonna try to play as low,
but he doing what every black mama does once everybody leaves.
You already know what I'm finna say. Black people, how
dare you embarrass me in public? If there's one thing
(52:06):
you let me let me tell you something. There are
a few things that are mortal sins when it comes
to black parents. There are a few things that your
parents are not. They not Boo Boo the fool. They
not one of your little friends. They not to be
(52:30):
played with. And for some reason, black parents love the
word audacity. You had the audacity to embarrass me in public?
Now normally, what black parents would do is you will
embarrass it. Sometimes they be not normally. Sometimes they be like,
embarrass me in public. I'm embarrass you in public? That
(52:55):
was my grandma. You're gonna embarrass me. I may embarrass you,
but other times it's all right, we'll take it. Okay, Okay,
Mss Johnson, she shut the door. Turn around you and
they did that. Donna beat the breaks up. How dare
you embarrass me in public? Now I'm gonna get out
(53:21):
there and I'm gonna defend you. I ain't gonna I
ain't gonna let them talk about you. Don't you ever
embarrass me in public again. We're gonna see how obedient
these five people a finna be after this?
Speaker 2 (53:38):
The politics, y'all?
Speaker 1 (53:52):
All right, now, don't you hit stop on this pod.
You better listen to these credits. I need you to
finish this thing so I can get the download numbers. Okay,
so don't stop it yet, but listen. This was recorded
in Eastlows, boil Heights by your boy Propaganda. Tap in
with me at prop hip hop dot com. If you're
(54:12):
in the Coldbrew coffee we got terraform Coldbrew you can
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and mastered by your boy Matt Alsowski Killing the Beat Softly.
Check out his website Matdowsowski dot com. I'm a speller
for you because I know M A T T O
(54:35):
S O W s ki dot com Matthowsowski dot com.
He got more music and stuff like that on there,
so gonna check out The heat Politics is a member
of cool Zone Media, Executive produced by Sophie Lichterman, part
of the iHeartMedia podcast network. Your theme music and scoring
(54:55):
is also by the one and nobly Matt Awsowski. Still
killing the beat softly, So listen, don't let nobody lie
to you. If you understand urban living, you understand politics.
Speaker 2 (55:05):
These people is not smarter than you. We'll see y'all
next week.
Host
Prop
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