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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Zone media. Okay.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
I toyed with a lot of ways to approach this,
like what is the most universal way to understand what
I'm about to say right now? Started off with thinking
about like all right, think about like Wu Tang or
Asap like as in Asap yams for rock, think about hieroglyphics,
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mega crews, native tongue, trying to figure out what age
ymb young slime, like, what ways tde like black hippie?
What ways can I explain? Where you have individuals who
all have their own sort of brand direction and ideas
that if you are going to stay on top, you
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need the collection to stay together, like you need Wu
Tang to be forever, because if not, then Yoho movement
is done. And I don't think any A lot of
those fell apart because like some of y'all may not
even know method man, the actor is a member of
Wu Tang clan, which hurts my heart. You wouldn't even
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know who I saw my if I say a hieroglyphics
like I would have to explain to you ninety three
tail Infinity and Soul's a Mischief and del to Funky Almosapien,
who you would know as Del Tron who you've only
heard through gorillas. I'm happy, feeling sad. I got sunshine
in a bag. The rapper in that is dell you.
But you would not know that that was hieroglyphics because
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I had a chance to look at our demographics.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
You wouldn't know who I'm talking about, which hurts my heart.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Would you know that Ricky Martin was a member of Menudo?
Would you like? What would you know that would make
this make sense? I don't know if the comparison works
well enough. You would understand when I talk about Wu tang,
you know, And let me not insult some of y'all,
like city folk, not so black people that like, Okay,
forgive me, you probably know. But what is the most
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universal way to talk about forming a coalition government? And
the best way I can think about it is trying
to figure out what we and the homies are gonna
eat tonight hood politics, y'all. So you're gonna really have
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to put your thinking caps on today for this one,
and I'm gonna try to make it as graspable as possible.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
But before we do this week, it like this bullook
is like this bullook is like this, So.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
In some more pop culture news. Continuing with the reign
supreme of Not Like Us. Obviously, k Dot dropped the
video for not Like Us, which took place in Compton
and nickoson Garden Projects bringing back Black Hippie and the
original TDE team.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
When I tell you, the entire.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
City came out to that video shoot, except for me
because I'm old and I got kids. But what a
beautiful thing to do, and to do it on the
fourth of July. You get the symmetry June teens for
the pop out fourth of July for the video that's absurd.
Such a the cinematography, everything, TAM's Burger's, all of it incredible.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
So that's one thing. Oh also, and then to end.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
The video with him and his wife and his kids
just dancing in the living room, reminding them that his
wife from Compton too.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Like anyway, it's just incredible.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Now, on that same tip, you had Rick Ross playing
the song in Toronto Anna Hell's Angels, dude punching him
in the face and then them getting active being like
you're gonna respect our city, and then watching all of
Rick's boys jump in and there Rick just kind of
like fall back real quick. What the rest of the
dudes is like I was pretty wild.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
I was like, okay, you're gonna let them. Okay, well,
you know what, good for you, Toronto.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
I'm proud of you for like respecting your like respect
your soil. In someplace that'd be like, look, man, I
know the rest of the earl world bopp into this,
but like, can we at least this is a this
a Kendrick free zone up.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Good for y'all now and not so fun news.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Y'all may remember the she I Can't call it episode
when y'all taught y'all what chevron defference was and that
the Supreme Court was going to decide if they were
going to uphold that. I'll let you go back and
see what chevron difference is. But but quick and dirty.
It's the idea that when there's a law about some
sort of regulation that is ambiguous, rather than deferring to
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the department within the government that is an expert on
that particular topic, whether it's our clean drinking water, air
or edible food, rather than deferring to the department that
runs that, they're saying, naw, we're going to let the
courts decide what should how this law regulation should be interpreted,
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which will have some effects that I will probably talk
about in a future episode. But just know that the
Supreme Court decided they could call it. They also decided, oh,
we already talked about this, that as long as you
commit crimes on the job, you're fine. But there was
another nuanced in this that as we're learning more about
how this thing would work, is if you were to
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bring a case against the president for doing something that
was an unofficial act, you can't use any documents.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Or testimony to prove it.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
So, for example, if the president were to have a
conversation would say, I don't know a Georgian a Georgia
official about pressuring somebody to find votes or have fake
a group of electors, or if they were to have
a conversation to their oh, I don't know, like head
of the Department of Justice, to tell them to bring
a case against a particular person, you can't even bring
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that conversation into evidence. So I can't even use the
things that prove what he did or she did to
prove that they did what we all know they did.
Not only that, it gets even more crazy if you were,
in fact the person that had to execute this said
criminal act that the president is immune for you not
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so the presidents say, hey, Leahomy, come here, I need
you to go kill Nancy Pelosi. I'm not saying he
going to say that. I'll just say if he did,
that was an official government act and that's covered under
his immunity because he can't even tell you about this conversation.
Now if you go do it again, he's like, look,
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that was an official act. I did it for the
sake of the government, and this is why we did it.
Or he could be like, you can't prove I did
it because all of this is covered. So no matter
what you say as the shooter, it don't matter because
you not immune.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
He is. This is balkers.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
And then finally, the Democratic Party is trying to change
their headliner. And as we all know, if you've ever
bought a concert ticket, you can't just change your headliner,
even if your headliner is decrepit. But either way, nobody
want to say what the only few of them want
to say it with their whole chess. Most people trying
to like say it like I'll go off the record.
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They not will understand on business like this. The way
I feel about this thing. But they're not saying it
with their whole chess, but they definitely saying it with
part of their chess. And Biden like the Lord God
Almighty got to tell me to leave. Now we'll see
how they play this game out. But either way, that's
what's going on.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Oh oh oh oh, and boeen.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Player guilty about being like, yeah, we knew this was trash. Anyway,
let's learn about a coalition government. It is like this,
all right, guys with very few exceptions, And now when
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I say few exceptions, I mean a lot of exceptions.
We're definitely talking about the first world issues, modern first
world issues.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
You're out with the.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Homies, you know, yo yo yo group yo, if you
if you're a Drake Frian, your crots.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
This your ace yo team yo, squad yr click whatever.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Y'all out kicking it, y'all trying to figure out what
we're gonna eat tonight. Now here's the thing again, friend
groups with few exceptions break down with you got the
foodie who you know, no compromise, Like, I don't care
what y'all pick, I'm gonna eat this. You know, you
got the you got your vegan in the group that's
got all kind of like really strong opinions about wherever
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they're going and what y'all gonna do. Then you got
the different types of vegans. You got the vegan that
got a gang of snacks. Now, my assistant Leanna, you know,
she she's a vegan with the snacks in her bag,
so she's fine whatever. She's like, I'm not gonna cause
no problems.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
I go with y'all. I'll find something on the menu.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
But don't worry about it, because if you look at
my purse, I got every possible thing I need to
survive because I know I'm the vegan, the self aware vegan.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
We enjoy them.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
You got the alcoholic who just as long as there's booze,
they don't care. You just need to shove food in
their mouth so they don't barf over everybody. You need
to cut that liquor with some grease. I don't know
where that came from. I feel like I got it
from just being a person of color and the hood.
We just believe that, like somehow another, if you drink
a lot, as long as you eat some tacos or
some greasey, it's gonna help with the hangover.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Or yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
We just believe it do It's probably wrong, but it
feels like it coach your line, your stomach a little better.
You got your person who always feels like they need
to be in charge, always wants to pick the place,
And most of the time it's just easier to let
that person pick it because sometimes they just outpha. Sometimes
they just like enjoy hosting. It's like I just I
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like all of us being together. You know, you've seen
those memes about the person on vacation that's getting up
and got the whole day planned and the hikes and
they up at eight and they want to do all this.
And then you got the other person that's like, fool,
I came out here to not have an.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Alarm, to not have a plan.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
You got all these different types of people. I, for one,
in the type that like, if I'm gonna spend money,
I want to eat good, I want to eat somewhere
I like. But I also, if I'm chilling, I don't
need to make a decision. I prefer to leave a
lot of the difficult decisions at work. When I'm chilling,
It's like I don't really feel like I don't have
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to think. I don't have to negotiate homie like I'm
trying to, like, here's my vote if this will be
getting but whatever, I would rather go here.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
But it's all good.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I'll find something on this menu as long for me,
as long as it's got seafood options. I just have
gluten and dairy issues. The main one is dairy like,
and I'm pretty sure I could tell wherever we at
just to put no cheese. If it's like a burger joint,
they probably have a sour dough or a gluten free bun,
or I could just get the fish and chips.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I'll figure it out.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
I don't need stress, but some people be super passionate
about it. Now in my crew, if you pick, you
get one shot to pick where we eaten when we
was on tour.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Listen, rest in peace. DJ Effecto.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
If you know me before hood politics, you know my
Ace Pare, You know the Kilipino, the bee Boy, Penoy,
snack King, Cole, every Day's leg Day.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
These are all his nickname. The web cript Keeper west Side.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Long Beach's own DJ Effecto passed away in twenty eighteen.
He towards the end of us, like our touring time together,
he was transitioning into being going into like chef, being
a chef. Now there's a lot of Cali that listens
to the show. I suggest you go down to the
Nest and Bellflower. That was Effecto, and you could tell
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him I sent you. If you ask for Antonio, you
could tell him I sent you. But you'll see the
Terror book. It's in the window. Those are those are
my folks. You'll see a picture of Effecto. He's on
the wall in there. So again, if you're in the
La area down in Bellflowers called the Nest breakfast joint,
Effecto designed a lot of that, a lot of their menu.
Antonio's my dog, Heather co owner, that's Antonio's partner and spouse, go.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Kick it over there. Anyway, he was transitioning into that.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
But either way, Effecto didn't miss when it came to selecting.
So whoever we were touring with, I would just tell
them trust DJ Effecto. He never missed when it came
to picking a spot. He had a system. I tried
when he passed away to get into his yop. I
wanted to log in because I'm like, whatever spots you
have saved, Remember we traveled the world together. Whatever spots
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he had saved. I just knew to trust him. So
when we were all together, let him decide. It'd be
six seven of us on tour. Shout out Jay Gibbons again.
If you in La, he works at Reachla marketing director
is a LGBTQ health and wellness center. You could say
prop sent you just don't be a weirdo, an amazing,
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amazing brother man. Shout out my shout out my boy Jeremiah.
We will be Effecto, the humy swoop. Who else will
be with us? This was before j King So anyway,
the whole collective, who we would ever tour with?
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Terrence Clarkey drums for Keith Urban now, believe it or not, like.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
We had dog I've had them anyway. Everyone just trusted
effect though. He's going to pick the best spot. So
but if you pick a spot and it's mid you
can never pick the spot again. I don't like, we don't,
we will not trust you. We don't trust you. We
still don't trust you. We all become metro Bloom in
the future. We don't trust your Your coalition is broken
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Effecto and I would be the supporting act on other tours,
and I would convince the rest of the tour on
the time, like, let him choose if we stopping fit
different cities, be like, all right, whatever, y'all do what
y'all want.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
I'm listening to Effecto.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Effecto would be like we'd be all in the group
text effect It would be like, y'all, here's the spot,
and I'm like listen to it. He is the prime
minister of choosing the food. Okay, I might be the
I might be the act I got us on this tour.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
I have been elected as and even when I was
when I was headlining, I have been elected as the
tour leader because this is my tour. I have built
my cabinet, my cabinet director of food, my prime minister.
DJ Effecto, DJ Effecto, don't miss again now. He also
I wish, y'all, I wish I wish you guys knew him.
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I wish I was doing hood politics while he was around.
He was around for the Red Couch. Our theme music
was Affecto's beat man. I wish y'all knew Effecto anyway.
He also doesn't like conflict.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
He was.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
I don't know if you know anything about the enneagram,
but he was a nine. What a niche reference. He
is the type that, like I just I don't I'm
not going to rock the boat, like the most agreeable person.
But he was also from Long Beach though, don't get
it twisted west side Long Beach. Short, stalky, Filipino dude
that could throw them things, the most gentle hearted, soft spoken,
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will knock your head off if you need to, but
the kindest guy you'll ever meet.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
I get stories still coming out the woodworks.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
I'm gushing about him because I'm missing, but their stories
still coming out the woodworks about things while we were
on tour together, he was doing for other people, and
I'm like, I was with him every day, Like.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
When did he do this stuff for you? Crazy?
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Just a good good man anyway. I would definitely try
to convince the factions of a tour or the collective
of the homies just let him do it, and me
and my squad would agree, Yeah, y'all could do whatever
you want. But if the tour bus is only gonna
stop at one place, if like we're not gonna or
we're not gonna uber, We're not gonna get the uber
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XL to a bunch of spots. Bro we gotta pick
a spot now if you wanna walk over there. But
either way, like we're gonna get a table, let's get
a bottle, let's do this.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
It only works if we all together.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Now, some of y'all may not like it, but if
the most of us, if he could convince people who
normally are very opinionated that to trust him, then we
could convince the whole team to go. And usually everybody's happy. Now,
sometimes it's gonna be some people. You got the grumpy
gus who ain't gonna be happy no matter what they do,
as long as because they didn't choose it. Then you
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got the worst case scenario is the obnoxious vegan, the
extremists of the group. Now, I don't want to throw
vegans under the under the bus.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
My wife, my wife she plant based, like we are.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
I would like to say, and I don't know if
this makes sense, I'd like to say we're eighty percent
plant based because the way that I because the way
my metabolism work. If you've ever seen me in person,
I'm a rail thing. I'm just I can't I tried
to get buff one time.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
In my life.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
I'm actually starting to get some gangs now because I
you know, anyway, I'm kind of pushing it. Once you
hit this age, you like, Okay, listen, this is my
last chance to be in the best shape I can
be in, So I'm gonna start seeing what I could
actually do here now. Because of that, I have to
eat a certain amount of protein, and I don't like
protein shakes. I'm not a big like. I don't like
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big old meals. I don't I don't eat dairy, I
don't eat gluten. I don't really like. I don't like
a lot of that. I don't like a lot of
I just don't like it. I don't like butter. I
don't like sweets. I just I'm a weirdo like that.
So most of the time, if we're gonna go, I'm
gonna get like I said, I'm gonna get seafood like
it so for me, like sugar ain't gonna kill me
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as salt.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
It ain't diabetes a high blood pressure for you, boy,
because I'm black as hell fry something I'm in anyway,
So I'm gonna throw the obnoxious vegan under the bus again.
My assistant is vegan out obnoxious. My wife is pretty
much plant based. He just soaked some tofu and some
tarioki sauce and chopped up some squash and this vegetable
medley and some black beans. She made herself a boot
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of bowl that she keeps in the fridge. Like, So,
don't get me wrong, we are this okay. So all
my vegans out there, I'm with you. I'm not talking
about y'all. I'm talking about the cartoon version of y'all,
the one that demands not only will I not stand
for a place that uses any animal products. Whatever you
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got better be locally grown, fair traded, direct traded.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Pesticide free.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
This place don't accept tips because we pay our workers
high enough. We don't do substitutions for meals, like you
can't suck the sweet potato fries because our chefs are artists.
If you are gonna eat something that's made from flesh,
we have named that cow the how's name, and life
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and life expectancy was given its best way possible. The
milk we use came from almond trees planted by indigenous
women in the Amazon, who for which have their own
reginitive farm.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
And you can track it.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
By scanning this QR code, the bar for which the
food has to be. There is zero exceptions. It has
to be like this or we not going out. You
destroy destroy the whole coalition. None of us can eat
and if any of us choose an alternative place.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
We are the problem.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
You are destroying our friend group because you're willing to
eat flesh of a living thing a place who has
non traceable asparagus.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Just complete obnoxiousness.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Now, on the other hand, there might be the other
version of the obnoxiousness that just wants greasy pizza. O,
don't care about any.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Of that liberal food. Give me real cheese. The guy
that wants the.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Thirty two ounce steak, or it's not real food if
you ordered, if you ordered the side of green beans,
you're gay, like okay, so only gay people eat vegetables
and care about their arteries that are just like you're
making fun of every possible vegan option. Just if you
try to eat something remotely healthy, you're ruining it for everybody.
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You don't want to go out because I'm an American
and Americans eat steak, okay.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
And if you affect though, you.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Got to figure out how to make all these people happy.
Now let me, let me throw a wrinkle into this.
In this scenario, what if I was the obnoxious vegan,
if my tour in this crew of collective, if we
were the obnoxious vegans, and we put Effecto in charge,
and Effecto ain't a vegan at all, but we knew
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if we stop voting.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
For him, he would lose his power.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Now in this scenario, Effecto in real life would be like, well,
it ain't that serious to me, y'all.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Okay, whatever, do what y'all want.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
It's fine, I don't have to have this position. I'll
figure out something on everyone. But if it was that
important to effect though, then he would have to go
against his conscience or we would have to not know
his conscience. He would have to just do whatever we
told him because we put him in charge. And if
we as a majority collective and even a coalition, if
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I've grabbed a couple other people from the other tour busses,
let's just say this is a roll a loud tour
and it's a bunch of different acts, you know, And
I've grabbed other busses and made y'all understand that Effecto
is the guy. If that coalition breaks up, he stops
being the guy because he don't have no majority. That
is what it's like to run Israel.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
We'll talk about it next.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
All right, I'm gonna talk to you about I can't
believe I got there, the structure of Israeli government, the
position that Yahoo's in, and to help maybe add some logic,
not justification, fam but logic to what's happening over there.
And it's hard because if you're American, you grew up
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since elementary knowing American politics and every government don't function
like ours. Like the rest of the world is familiar
with how governments work everywhere else, not America. We are
we know us, and even us that know us don't
really know us very well.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
We're just not.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
The more you travel, you more you understand that we
are just not as informed as the rest of the world.
Like can you tell me Canadian political history, but Canada
can tell us ours. I've stepped foot in Cameroon on
the armpit of Africa. I say armpit because just look
at the shape of the horn, like the shape of Africa.
It's like Cameroon was right up in the armpit and
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they was asking me when I was there about the
election between Barack Obama and John McCain like they was
speaking articulately in this broken French creole about it. I'm like, listen, anyway,
they have a parliamentary democracy and you have to form
political coalitions.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
I'm explaining what all this means in a second to
help you understand this.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
It's like this if if you have a code, right
any in my mind common sense, like if you just
not really worried about power and maintaining power to the
point to where it causes you to break your code,
then you'd understand that there are some things that just
ain't worth it. The juice ain't worth the squeeze. There
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are some favors that come at too high of a price.
When you're from the city, grew up in the hood,
you may have an uncle that could come solve a
problem for you. You may have a cousin, maybe your big brother,
your big sister, and let's be real, sometimes it's your
big sister or sometimes your little brother could come solve a.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Problem you have at lunch.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
But that solving of that problem comes at a cost
that oh man, I'm talking to my hood folks. You
understand some of them uncles you can't call some of
them cousins, you cannot call like, I can't be cause
it's gonna cause me mold problems. When we did the
let the the very the second you wasn't outside episode
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about how the way that Jimmas did what Jimas did
as far as like in the same example of my
homeboy's cousin and because his mom was having an issue
with the mechanic, I've gave an example for his mom
was having an issue with a mechanic and she had
her nephew come handle the situation, and he elevated the
thing to a place that I can't even get into specifics.
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It's like, damn, okay, I have to remember not to
ask you for help. You go solve it, but this
ain't this may not be worth it. So when you
got a code and that code requires you to align
with some people that go against your code, that have
views that you try your best to like get your
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head around, but you know deep down you don't really
mess with them like that, but they are necessary for
you to stay in place. Going back to the effecto example,
effecto is like it is not that serious.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
If you feel that serious.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
About it, you're gonna make the whole room have to
go to the place that only you and two of
your friends, Like, did y'all figure that out? I don't
want it. I don't need this. I don't care. I'm
here to DJ right, you got a code? Oh man, Listen,
I'm gonna talk to all of my like this to
my assist gendered heterosexual men. I'm speaking to y'all because
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that's the experience. I know you can if this applies
to other people, listen. I don't like speaking about stuff
I don't really know. This is why I choose the
topics I choose and the examples I choose because I
don't listen I like. So this isn't to exclude any
other intersection of people.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
It's just it's not my experience.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
I can speak from my experience in a much more
authoritative way. And I'm saying, fellas, listen, I'm happily married.
You know what I'm saying. It's been fifteen years. I
think my wife is fine as hell. Now listen, this
is just the reality. If it was just about being
fine as hell, you know, Like, I know you in
a committed relationship.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
You got you a nice little both thing that loves you,
treat you right, it's bodies everywhere. It's fine women everywhere.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
If, of course, there are girls that I think are
more attractive, if we're just talking about that and are
available all buddy, But that juice ain't worth to squeeze
because listen, it's boties everywhere.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
You know what I'm saying. Fellas, Listen, you found you
you gotta you better work that out. You understand y'all
having issues. You in a communityation, y'all have issues.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Fight for it, bro Hey, Look, and if you find
out at the end of that fight that that juice
ain't worth the squeeze, y'all come to the conclusion that
like this ain't working, then make your move, shoot your shots,
do what you gotta do. But you need to be
able to say, hey, listen, don't be risking it all
big doll. I'm telling you man, Hey, look, look, nah,
I ain't gonna get that crash. But listen, fellas, you
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knew what I was finna say. I mean by getting crash,
it's booties everywhere. It's fine women everywhere. If that's all
you worried about, bruh, then that ain't gonna that ain't
gonna keep you when y'all fighting, it's gotta be moting that.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Like it's moting that again.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I think my wife won't find as women on earth,
but I love her for moting that we got something
going here.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
You understand I'm saying that juice ain't worth the squeeze. Listen.
I throw parties.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
I throw parties in Los Angeles, California, Long Beach, California.
Fam everybody's a ten. Don't you understand that? Like, do
you dephrase California ten? I'm around Cali ten's all the time.
It's not about with that though, It's got to be
about something more, Fellas. Okay, I know I may sound
like an old man, but I'm trying to tell you
bre that juice ain't worth the squeeze. Now, obviously, if
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y'all got some worked out, that's not what I'm talking about.
I'm talking about you just trying to like get you
a little side piece together. Listen, I just be real
with your lady, like you're not trying to be exclusive
no more or just you know, work it out and
if it don't work out, then you're gonna move on.
But if the juice ain't worth the squeeze, fellas, you
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ain't trying to go through You ain't trying to go
through it. Brea, you ain't trying to be out here.
Sounded like USh, these are my confession.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Anyway, y'all don't listen to me. What do I know?
Speaker 2 (28:41):
So the point I'm trying to make is there are
some choices that put you in a position where you
have to make a cost benefit analysis about is the
cost of this choice worth the benefits and whatever those
calculations are.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
You are now doing politics.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
This is how you're also doing economics in business. But
for the sake of our discussion right now, this is
politics in a lot of ways.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
That's global.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Like if we're talking about a modern nation state, this
is what happens. You have to bargain, you have to
throw around weight, you have to like give a little
take a little figure out like how these friendships work,
and what's a way to get what you want or
what you think is best for your constituents.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
That's in theory how it all works. Now.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
In Israel, they have a system that's.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Similar in some ways.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
It's still democracy air quotes, just like our democracy is
air quotes of democracy, but it's different. They have a
parliamentary government, their parliament, which what we would call our
like legislative branch. It's one hundred and twenty of them
and they're called a kanesset. Now they have political parties.
One of the things that causes our problems is we
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ain't got but two of them right now. The two
of them is we've talked about this before, it in
the when I had that.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
It's not so much that we only have two.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
We only have two that matter, and inside of those
two we are delusional about how considering the politics and
where they are now, those are clearly there's four because
inside of each of our main two are two other one.
But we've we've been going along like this for so long.
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The money is too the money flow is too easy.
You can't unplug the computer right now like it would be.
It would cause a complete crash. So nobody want to
unplug the thing because the system is working for those
who is working for which is not us obviously as
in the people, because we both have two choices that
neither of us really won't listen. The vast majority of
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Republicans don't like Trump. That's just who they got and
they like that's our guy. I don't no a Democrat
that likes Joe Biden. It's just this what we got now.
We don't have the cults of personality that the Republicans
have to where there are some stuff that they just
say that's like, all right, you've thrown out the map,
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You're off the rails. Like what you're saying don't even
make sense. You just trying to stay good with your boy,
right and your boy is clearly.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Out of here.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
In the Democrat side, we just got a dude who,
like I said, is a large cheese pizza that just
frustrates us at every moment. But it's better than a
large piece of cat poop pizza, and that's your only defense.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
So it's frustrating right now.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
But back to their political parties, they have eleven of them.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
So the nuances of.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Trying to make the Republicans say one thing. You got
the Margie Taylor Green's of the world, and then you
got the Mitt.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Romney's of the world. They couldn't be on They're on
different planets.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
You have the Karen Basses of California, you got the
you know, Auntie Kamala's, the Joe Biden's, and then you
have the AOC's you know, in il Han's who are like, bam,
can we like step into the future. You have defund
and fund the police in the same party. They're far
away things. Israel decided to stop lying about it. We
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are different parties, and each of these parties have sort
of their ideological feelings that lead we just again, we
just say that is a progressive Democrat, that is a liberal,
that is a centrist. But you're all still Democrats, right,
They're like, well, we're clearly not the same thing.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
So you have eleven of them.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Now it would be absurd of me to try to
name them, because it doesn't They're not the point. But
you'd say it like this, like, so you have the
party that net Yahoo's from. It's it's the ideologies like
neo Zionism, conservatism. Now, because of what's going on, you
would understand what we mean by Zionism. But then you
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got dudes that are like in the opposition party, right, so,
and that means, which I'm gonna get into it later,
like those are the dudes that said, like, if the
president's a Democrat, the opposition would be got it. I
don't have to tell you, right, So you have the
liberal Zionism, secularism, you have religious conservatism.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
You have liberal.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Zionism, not neo Zionism conservatism. You have liberal Zionism, you
have religious Zionism, you have religious conservative, hardy non Zionism,
like you have all these different types of ways to
cut what they mean by conservative. Now when we say Zionism,
I'm sure you guys are well read enough to know
what we mean by Zionism. We are talking about the
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legitimacy of a Jewish state in.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
The homeland of Israel.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
The religious ones you like, again using your logic, wouldn't
mean that they believe this is God's will. We are
God's chosen people. Got promised us way back to Abraham.
He promised us this land, right you know wells you
did not dig I'm talking Abraham, Isaac and Jacob like
I'm talking your Old Testament, Bible, sowre drills, which was
you know if you came from the Black Church, these
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things you had to do, like you know, all this stuff.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
They believe that they.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Are the continuation of this this is God's will. Don
you have liberal Zionism. That's like, no, nigga, Like, what
are you talking about? I mean, maybe I guess if
it gives us power. They're like nah fooh, like we
fought a war and won this of course is we
believe we should be here. We're still Zionists like Israel
needs a homeland, but you gotta fight for.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
It, and god, nigga, like, what are you talking about? Right?
Speaker 2 (34:42):
So those are like the secular one, these are ways
for which then you have the anti Zionists that are like, yeah,
I believe we're a country, but fam, we can't just
wipe out the indigenous. What you're doing in Palestine is
verifiably wrong. I don't know if you knew that there
is that sort of diversity of views inside of Israel. Now,
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why I brought up efecto being the selected prime minister
of what we're gonna eat and why his job is
hard comes into right.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Now.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Okay, you have eleven parties and who the people vote for.
Now nowadays you vote for the prime minister, but before
that you voted for the president and the members of
the Kanesset, which is their cabinet, right or not not
their cabinet, which is their legislative branch. Let me ask
you this, who is Israel's president wrong? It's it's isak Herzog.
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That's the president. You ain't know that, did you. That's
because the president don't do nothing. The man's a figurehead.
What that man's job is is to get elected, to
kiss babies, to sign bills, and to elect the one
who won't really do the job, which is the Prime minister.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
He do the hard work. And that person is the person.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Who's been in the news this whole time, Benjamin that
and Yahoo. Now, it's not like America, where once you
get elected you just go pick your cabinet members, Like
do we have did we have any say in?
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Who's who's the black dude, the neurosurgeon that Trump elected,
the sleepy face black dude, Like I can't even I'm
not even I'm not even gonna look up his name
because I know y'all know who I'm talking about. We
ain't get a saying that the president ELECXI. That's not
how it works out there. They have a again, a
parliamentary system. So it's a democratic I'm gonna give you
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a like Britannica Encyclopedia Britannica answer. So it's a democratic
form of government in which the party. Now I'm gonna
talk about the coalition of parties, which is what happens
with effecto with the greatest representation of the parliament or
the legislator forms the government. Its leader becomes the Prime Minister.
Then Yahoo and its executive functions are exercised by the
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members of the Parliament appointed by the Prime Minister to
the cabinet. The parties in the minority serve as opposition
to the majority and they have the duty to challenge
it regularly. Prime ministers may be removed from power when
they lose the confidence of the majority of the ruling party.
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The parliamentary system originated in Britain Okay, and it was
an adopted by a lot of its former colony. Now
what does that mean in theory? It avoids what we've
been going through in America because once you get elected,
you will have to have a majority of the Kannesset,
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meaning your party that you got elected from has to
be the majority. So if there's one hundred and twenty
people in the Kannesset, to be you need to have
sixty one dudes from yr squad. But remember Isak got
elected in theory again because there it's a little wonky,
but they voted on net. Yahoo also now it's Netting
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Yahoo's job to make sure that of all the eleven
parties that he got in the majority. Now, let me
ask you this, is it easier you think if there's
two crews or eleven crews to get a majority, Because
if it's two, you don't have to really wheel and deal.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
It's just it's fifty to fifty. You understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
I just need to get one of y'all to come
to my side, just need that one more than you do.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
It's fine, it's fifty to fifty.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
It would be just like if you were going on again,
if Effecto and me was hanging out right, it's just
or Effecto, me and one more person. It's like, oh,
it's only three of us. So it's just it would
be two against one. It's not hard, right, you're not convincing.
But once you add more people, you add more opinions.
And in pretty much the history of Israel, no one
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party has ever had a full majority. So if you
don't have a majority, you can't what's called form a government,
which is select your cabinet members the minister or is
the minister this you can't do the work of the
government until you have a majority. I don't care if
you was elected. And this was my experience because when
I went to Israel and Palestin for the first time,
it was in twenty nineteen, Benjamin and Yahoo got elected again.
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But they was like, this is our fifth time voting
for this because he can't form a government. I was like,
what does that mean. It's like he can't get a majority.
I was like, what does that mean? So I didn't
understand this because I'm like, well, if you elected, you elected.
That's because again I grew up in American politics. This
means is this, you get elected, they choose you your
party again, because it's divided by eleven, say it rather
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than divided by two or divided by three.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
Is harder.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
So that means you got to convince more people. And
a lot of times these people you convincing. You don't
really mess with like that. But you cannot do this job.
You can't be the prime minister or where we eat,
you cannot choose our meal unless you convince most of
us that you that do, which also means think about
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it like this. When you campaign, you can't go too
hard at the ops because I need to convince some
of y'all that like I could be kind of like
your guy, you know, So you can't go too hard
at the op. You gotta be like be able to
approach a lot of different views, which means I may
or may not know as.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
The voting public where you stand. I know you somewhere
around this area.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
But because if you get put on, you're gonna have
to form a coalition. You can't just you can't just
stay on your core fan base, you feel me.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
You gotta be able to like be cool with other
fan bases.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Which, again in concept, sounds great that you that now
the more people you gotta convince, the harder it becomes.
So that meant that to form a government you have
to do what's called a coalition, which means I now
got to go sit down with ten of them other
parties and figure out how I can get you on.
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Now your remember, your team ain't win. But who can
I talk to that's close enough to my team?
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Right?
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Who if you were again, if you was effecto, who's like, well,
who can I talk to that is at least a
pescatarian who at least ain't gonna flip the tables if
they sell flesh? There right, the crew, the homies. You know,
I'd like listen. We all know, like listen. Effecto's the
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best at it. But Effecto. For Effecto to be the
best at it and for us to actually listen to him,
you got to convince more most of us. I'm already
listen again, I was the president in this thing. Remember
in that scenario, I selected Effecto because this is my tour.
I selected Effecto. I'm isak Fecto's BB. Now what Effecto
gotta do is convince the rest of the tour. He
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ain't gotta convince everybody, because again, you're gonna have your vegan.
We ain't gonna ever be happed. I ain't got to
you the opposition. You gonna always be the op or
let's change it. You are the the red meat and
red meat only guy. You want a steakhouse. I already
know that's what you want. I can't convince you. You ain't
gonna change your mind.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
It is what it is. But we've all agreed.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
If the majority of us, if just by one, are
down with what he's saying. Did he get to do this?
He has officially formed a government. And what happened with
Benjamin NETANYAHUO was. He failed five times. He could not
get and they had to keep voting. They had to
keep running new elections because he couldn't form a government.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
So you had.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
To meet with these people, convince them, make concessions, agree
to stuff that you don't necessarily mess with, but maybe
you do. Maybe they just bold enough to say the
stuff that you're not willing to say.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Maybe if you, Benjamin Nann Yahoo.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
You facing some serious charges that if you lose power,
just like your own boy Trump, you might go to jail.
You might be facing some trials, big dog. You got
some corruption situations going. And maybe there weirdos that the
absolute angry vegans or whichever scenario you want to look
at it, the weird meet only people have said, now listen,
(43:40):
I'll be on your side. This is what I need
from you? Is the juice worth to squeeze? And this
is what happened with Benjamin then Yahoo. He formed a
coalition government with other parties that gave him the majority
to be able to stay in power. Now, who were
those people? He worked with?
Speaker 1 (43:59):
The extreme ream far right.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
He had to in order to form his coalition government
to be able to stand in power, he had to
mess with the people that are like river to the
sea and reverse that draw maps including like Syria and
Jordan and calling it Israel. He talked about the people
that the shoosting that we seeing in Palestine, the ones
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that ain't got no problem with that, that said, we should
have done this a long time ago. Had we wiped
them out earlier, this wouldn't be no dog on problem.
The folks who the folks who went ahead agreed with
East Jerusalem and gave Palestine that area and then set
up the Israeli settlements out there. That was like, that's yours,
but this part of that, this part of what's yours
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is actually ours, because really it's none of it is yours,
and it shouldn't be in the first place. I don't
understand why negotiating y'all in the first place, the extremest
versions he had to side with in order to create
the coalition so he could form a government, so he
could do the job. So the question remains, Bibe, is
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this really what you believe? So because yo, homies, they
have no problem what's going on in Gaza, matter of fact,
they think we ten years behind, is that really where
you stand? Because every time we ask you. You talk
like it is, so we're going do you really believe
this or are you doing this just to stay in power?
Speaker 1 (45:31):
Or is it a little bit of both. Here's the problem.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
If you're doing it to stay in power, any hope
of quailing some sort of opposition, which is again it's
the oppositions, the opposite party. It's their job to poke
at your choices, which, again in design in concept, seems great.
You need someone who's designated job. Every friend needs it,
(45:55):
Every creative needs this. Really, every creative needs somebody that's
going to come in here and pull all your ideas.
Not be petty about it, but be real about it,
to be like. You need somebody if you record in
music to be like that shit is trash, Hey, homie,
like them, ain't bars them sound like dad joke? Like.
You need somebody to come in here and tell you
that because it's gonna push you to greatness.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
That's how you get the best ideas out. You can't
have a.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Group of yes men. That's how you become Kanye. You
need people that will tell you no. I believe the
second you stop having people around you that tell you no,
that's when your soul breaks break My soul. Your soul
breaks when people stop telling you no. That's how your
brain breaks. That's how you lose your conscience. You need
people to tell you no. So in design, it's a
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great idea, but it also sets up a scenario where again,
you can't be in power forever. And if you go
too far off the rails, you gonna lose the public. Now,
once you lose the public, they gonna run into somebody's hands.
Oh oh, oh, fellas, let me use it again. You
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start taking that lady for granted. You start running around
here looking at all these other buddies. Oh, she got
a friend, fellas, Listen, you know other fellas again, I'm
talking sis gender boy. She has a guy best friend
who knowsverything you done, everything you done, done wrong. Listen
unless her best friend or best her best guy friend
(47:22):
is a gay man who really, honestly, truthfully, is not
attracted to her.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
You in trouble brouh.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
You can't go off the rails, homie, because look, she
got a friend. She got a friend that's listening, that
listen better than you, that knows how to active listen,
knows how to not interrupt her, knows how to pay
attention to her needs. Sir, you gonna run that woman
into his arms. I'm trying to tell you right now, baby,
you better don't go off the rails because because you're
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trying to make the homies happy.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
All nigga, that's what happens. You trying to make the
homies happy.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
You trying to stay cool with your boys going out.
They got bottle service, were going out all baby.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
You know what I'm saying, like, look I do a say, Okay,
go ahead, go ahead, go out. Boys gonna keep you
warm at night. Nigga, you better learn how to.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
You better figure out what if this juice is worth
to squeeze, so you gonna push somebody all the way
out you and if you push them out, guess what,
you gonna lose your job anyway, because guess what they
gonna do what they have the right to do, which
is called for another election because we have no confidence
in your government. Guess what's happening in Israel right now.
You can't go too far because trying to please these weirdos. Effecto,
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Trying to please these weirdos got us in roadhouse steak
shack where the vegetable is a potato nigga like effecto, Like, bro,
you just trying to make that fool happy. Now, nobody
you trying to make this person happen. You at we
over here at a breath restaurant, nigga like out here,
just because no nobody, because you because plants hurt too,
even us trying to eat this lettuce and shit the
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let us get feel pain. So now none of us
can really eat because you're trying to You trying to
please the breathian over here, bro, and you can't.
Speaker 1 (48:58):
And in this case, now I'm being silly. Now, in
this case, what this has.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
Cost us is thirty thousand Palestinian lives in a world
where your homies don't want a two state solution, which
means that And I'm gonna say, like, listen to my words.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
Okay, I need you to please listen to this.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
I've said it many times, but I need to say
it in these no uncertain terms. The way that Israel
is going about this war. Everybody of research shows that
this will either create a new extremist group or you
are going to, like I said, you're gonna run these
people into the arms of the extremists.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
You're fighting right now. If your role.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
If your only hope was to create peace, this is
the opposite way to do it. You are guaranteeing more problems.
If your goal was the complete eradication of all the
problems that you have with these people, you're trying to
wipe out this thought, which is what your extremist homies
are saying.
Speaker 1 (49:56):
You gotta wipe them out.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
You should have sense enough to know that the the
only way to wipe them out, the only Listen, listen, y'all,
please hear what I'm saying. Your only solution is genocide
because of the route you went, because there is no
after this that there's what is?
Speaker 1 (50:12):
What do you do when the shooting stops.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
You have millions of people who no doubtedly have lost
their babies, their brothers, their sisters. There's no there's no universities,
that the nursing women have stopped producing milk, there's the
trauma in the children, there are no buildings left. When
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you stop shooting, you expect these people to be like,
thanks for stop shooting, I'm glad this is over. So
now what do you want to do? No? You, these
people will never ever ever trust you, y'all. If you
if your goal is what this coalition is telling you
to do yo, y'all only solution is to kill all
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of them. And guess what, even that ain't gonna solve
your problem. I'm just telling you history that ain't gonna
solve your problem. Do you think that if Nazi Germany
eradicated every Jew on Earth, that that would have solved
their problem, that that would have gave them the gave
the Nazi Party the peace and the success that they
believed they wanted to or do you think even them
(51:23):
trying to do it invoked the entire planet to like,
I mean the World War, Well maybe not the entire
planet because Africa wasn't involved. Let's remember that, right.
Speaker 1 (51:33):
But you just this is the quickest way to have
no friends.
Speaker 2 (51:37):
I just you gonna you you trying to please the
weirdos and I can't help. But wonder if you wanted them,
and if you are one of them, There's no way
in the world you can stay in power because these
weirdos want stuff that your population don't.
Speaker 1 (51:55):
I'm listening to the population because I really want to know.
Speaker 2 (51:58):
What Israel thing Israel like, Can you just get the
fucking hostages you brought us back?
Speaker 1 (52:03):
Four hostages? It was beautiful.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
I'm so happy you did, and you killed two hundred
and seventy people on the way out. I don't understand
why you think that's what we want. Who is you
listening to? And if that's what you won't again invoking
the Amalekites. My dude, I'm not vote for you again.
You not what I thought you were, Bruh. Forming a
coalition government is like trying to figure out what everybody
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gonna eat because you need to get the majority on
your side.
Speaker 1 (52:32):
But if the cost of getting.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
The majority on your side means we gotta go to
Nazi Burger's genocide tacos, maybe you shouldn't want that majority
of politics. All right, now, don't you hit stop on
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com Matthowsowski dot com. He got more music and stuff
like that on there, so gonna check out The heat.
Politics is a member of cool Zone Media, executive produced
by Sophie Lichterman, part of the iHeartMedia podcast network. Your
theme music and scoring is also by the one and
nobly mattow Sowski. Still killing the beats softly, So listen.
(54:07):
Don't let nobody lie to you. If you understand urban living,
you understand politics. These people is not smarter than you.
We'll see y'all next week.