November 26, 2021 • 54 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I am all in, want kiss you. I am all
in with Scott Patterson and I Hurt Radio Podcast. Welcome
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everybody to the first ever live virtual podcast. And I
am Scott Patterson and this is I Heart Radio and
one eleven Productions bringing you a friends giving events. And
we're all so happy and so pleased to have you
join us and thank you so much. We also want
to say a portion of the proceeds a You're gonna
go benefiting the St. Jude's Children's Research Hospital and Baby
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Too Baby, two causes that are in charities that are
close to my heart. I've taken a bunch of tours
through St. Jude's and other hospitals and to visit kids.
And let me tell you something, there is nothing more
rewarding and more satisfying and knowing that that you can
provide a little tiny bit of comfort for a kid
on a specific day. Um. And these are beautiful kids
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that need our help and beautiful families all pulling together
for a great cause. So thank you very much forgetting
your tickets and uh and joining in. Listen. We want
to well, I'm gonna tease our guests here a little bit.
We've got Jackson Douglas, who played Jackson Belleville in series
fifty seven episodes. We've got Emily Kuroda Mrs Kim, We've
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got Sally Strutters obviously played Babette, and Grantly Phillips the
Town Troubadour, and we are very, very very excited. I
want to thank my team UH, led by Amy Sugarman,
Danielle Romo, Riley pelusis UH and there are others behind
the scenes. Tomorrow NPR, I'm gonna butcher her last name,
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so I'm not even gonna attempt it. There's Eastern Eastern
Allen Um, who is our attack on this and he
does fantastic work. We are in cahoots now Eastern and
I doing secret things behind everybody else's back to surprise
us the rest of the team on the podcast. The
following one is gonna be quite a reveal something that
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I have discovered in the show. One of those things
that pops up every now and again. It's kind of
like the clown Fellow. But you'll have to download the
next podcast series of podcast to find out what it is.
But it's a bombshell, I guarantee you that. Anyway. Thank
you all for joining us and without further ado, and
let me take these off because I gotta get ready
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to talk to one of my favorite people in the
whole world. Mr. And I think he's living in Spain now,
So let's welcome Jackson Douglas. Jackson, come on in. How
you doing, guy? Doing good? How are you doing? I'm
doing really good. Let me put my specs onto you
are not? Should I take mine off so you can't
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see that I've got my got something else up on
my computer that you could see in my glasses now,
I don't really but I'm good. That's crazy, And I'm
not in Spain anymore. Where are you? I'm in Los Angeles.
I'm back in Los Angeles, right. I got tired of
paying for a house that I wasn't living in, so
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we decided to come back. We're only supposed to be
gone for a year. We were always supposed to go
for a year. And we got there and it was
like a week into it and we're like, oh my god,
this is beautiful. I don't ever want to go back, right,
And then the election happened, which kind of, you know,
helped me to make my choice. But we didn't want
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to come back, so I don't know. At the end
of a year. It takes you a year to get
used to living somewhere else, you know what I mean.
You gotta find your store, you gotta find your coffee shop,
you gotta find all that stuff, so you get used
to it after a year. So we stayed for another year,
and then we stayed for another year, and then another year,
and then another year, and then COVID happened, and then
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so and then we decided, Okay, we got to get back.
The kids are getting old enough that they really need
to have some roots where, you know, not to move anymore.
So it was time. So they're fluent. They they're fluent Spanish, yes,
but they don't like to talk in Spanish because they're
self conscious about it. You know. They're like, they will
correct the hell out of me when I speak it wrong.
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But you know, and they know it. They can understand it,
and if if forced they can they can speak. Yeah. Yeah,
I I My son corrects me all the time. It's
only something, but he's I call him the correct because
he's yeah, he's up my asses every day about something.
Well it's because they that's they finally have some power
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over you, right, you know, so I give them that.
I was like, Okay, I'm the one who tells you
when to go to bed, but you can tell me
when I'm saying the wrong word, when I'm swear ring
incorrectly in Spanish. So let's get into um, let's get
into the show. You did fifty seven episodes. What did
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you know about the role of Jackson when you got
the part? I mean, did casting say anything to you,
anything about having the same name as the characters things
like that, Yeah, a little bit. I mean I think
you know, I went when the pilot was shot. I
was in Toronto and that's where I met Amy and
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Dan and um, and I think they were saying something
about like, oh, you're funny. You should be on the show.
And so they kind of put me in. And I
think my name originally was supposed to be Crispin, but
it was too close to Tristan, and so they said, oh, wow,
what the hell this is? Called you Jackson? Why not?
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That's fine? It works. So you're so you yeah, exactly,
you were so you yeah that it happened, alright, So
why not just call you Jackson Douglas. Why Jackson Bellville?
I don't guess. I don't know. Maybe it's a legal thing.
I don't know, probe the minds of those two. Yeah,
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and and what's funny is I think I think there's
even an episode where I was Melville or the last
name was Melville, and then it changed to Belleville. I
don't know. There's a lot of controversy about that. I
asked about that, and Dan just kind of blew me off.
I don't stop asking about that every time I had
to try to have a conversation with us, too. I
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wear a miner's homet with the nextra on the helmet.
It's about right. Yeah. So it's funny that you ask me,
is do you have any insight into any of that?
It's like, uh, do we ever? Do we ever have
any insight into the hy No? Accept it and move on.
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Learned not to ask questions, service to will and get
that food. Go stand on your marks, say your words
really fast, and be done. We want to go home.
Well that's the Kapper man. So tell me, you know,
how would you describe in your own words? Uh? Not
that you can use anybody else's get try all right?
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In Pierce bronss No, No, we can steal or or
or or or James Bond, which, all right, I'll do
me because I'm really bad at the voices. How would
you describe Jackson in your own words or Arnold swag
Schwartzenegger's words or yeah, I don't know, you know, it
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was it was an interesting It was really an interesting
role because I think it was just kind of a
I mean, the best way that I can describe it,
at least the way I feel about it. It's just
a hyperbolized version of me. You know. It's funny how
you would live life and they would all of a
sudden end up in the script. I got named the
president of the Homos Association, and a month later later
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we were doing I was being elected the town selectman.
You know, because I don't know, Amy just seemed to
think that my life was hilarious and just needed to
use that for something. So, you know, Umm, although there
are there are some differences, like when I get angry,
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I don't act like Jackson does when he gets angry.
I think Jackson's more of it. You can kind of
laugh at his anger. My kids, well, well that's not true.
Now my kids laugh at my anger too, so they
don't take me seriously. Anymore and let me just start laughing,
which really doesn't do much for my anger. Um. But yeah,
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I mean, I don't know. I mean it was a
lot of fun to play. I mean everybody, I don't know,
it was so easy. I mean, the character it was
just so much fun. And I got along with everybody
so well that it just it really did become effortless.
The hardest thing was just to use somebody else's words,
you know, try to It's like, oh, I wouldn't speak
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that way, but I've got to try and force my
mouth to, you know, say it a certain way. Or
plus you get to, you know, work with Melissa McCarthy
for god, Well, yeah, it didn't feel like right exactly
because we've said on the show, on the podcast, we
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you know, we could I could see because I haven't
seen the episodes, right, so I'm watching for the first time.
It's the whole thesis of the podcast. And you know,
the talent on her from the very first moment you
see her is so glaring and apparent and and just like, wow,
did you see it too? You must have seen it, right.
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I guess I felt it, you know, and I guess
I'm really really fortunate that I felt such a wonderful
personal connection with her that I think if I were
to oh my god, I mean, now that you mentioned it,
I kind of just got shivers. How if I looked
at it the way that you're you described it, I
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think I would have been really intimidated. And I don't
think I would have been able to even close, you know,
I think I think, yeah, it was just but she's
just so I mean, she's just so nice and warm
and loving as a person that it's hard to be
intimidated around it. You just kind of get in the
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role with it, you know, you just kind of she
doesn't even know how funny she is. Not. She didn't
back that. I mean, she she did some things. We
did an interview together for the Humorously Enough for ESPN,
and you know, in the very beginning, so there we
are seated together in our director's chairs and there's ESPN
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and there, you know, and and they asked us how
we stay in shape? And you know, I said, well,
you know, I run a little bit of oh my god,
are we supposed to stay in shape? Walk up and
down the stairs, that kind of thing. And she and
then when they asked her, she immediately said, oh, I
love the box, you know, And I thought she was kidding,
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and I let out a little bit of a life
because just the way she inflects her work, and it's
just it's just naturally funny. Um. And so she doesn't
know she's so quick and and and you know, the
phrasing is so just beautifully time that you have you
can't help it, not law Can you remember your favorite
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scene that you filmed with her? Uh? Now, if you
answer correctly, I'll send you fifty dollars. Oh you mean
there's a correct answer. Well, of course, as a correct answer,
and it has to be it's got my favorite scene.
I would be the only one who would know the
answer to that. I don't know. I mean, there were
so many there was We had a lot of fun
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when we did the pre wedding um high jinks, you
know where I was running around Balboa Park in a
skirt a kilt. But um, you know, we we're doing
photos and stuff like that. I think the I think
the one that really sticks out in my mind is
the is when we get when we decided to move
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in together or kind of get engaged. There's a picnic
that we did and it was. It's like a when
you watch it on TV. You see it's a bright
sunny day and we're having this picnic in the park
and it was two o'clock in the morning and pitch
black outside, you know, and it was lit uh night
for day and you wouldn't even know. And it was
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just so surreal and but it really added something to
the scene because it kind of took your headspace out
of you know, it became kind of oh, I'm too
old in my my brain just drops words um not ethereal,
but it's you know, it just kind of takes you
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out of yourself and out of the moment. And it
felt felt very different and special. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
oh my so many Oh my god. I was so
sweaty and tired at the end of the day. And
I think and I think they had it after one,
but you know, I think Amy and Dan just felt
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that they just were laughing at my running and just
wanted to torture me. But it was fun. It was
fun torture. I remember that one that was good is
that The correct answer is that being? Is that one?
Or is it deep Fred Shoe Thanksgiving did not answer correctly,
so I don't get by my own dinner to night,
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but I will send you bag of coffee. So okay,
that's to look forward to, all right, I'll take the
parting gift. So we're only a handful into of episodes
into season two, and we're starting to see your romance
with melissic Rono, SUPI grow. What type of direction did
you receive when it came to you and Melissa in
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that regard? I think, Um, I don't think there was
a lot. I don't think there was a lot of direction.
There's one there's one scene that I'm that I'm so
embarrassed about that I just even to this day, I cringe.
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And there's and it's when we have our first child
and Jamie Babbott was directing, and um, and so we're
in the hospital we've had the child, and I'm go
up to her and I give her a big kiss
or a big hug and a kiss. And she's like
saying that, and she kept saying, you know, we'll give
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her a kiss, give her a kiss. But I've never
done an on screen kiss before, and I know Melissa
so well. It just felt so weird to have to
fake this and I just couldn't do it. I just couldn't.
I end up giving her a great big hug, and
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I just feel like I failed as an actor that day,
failed so hard. How it would have been a really tender,
you know, a wonderful, wonderful moment, but the the person
that is me, I just couldn't get over that, you know,
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over that. I don't know, it was really weird. Maybe
you took it in the direction that was unexpected and
even more effective, more emotional in a way. Maybe, yeah,
all right, I'll take that to kind of save my
salve my guilt. But um, yeah, but I so, I
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think that's the only time that I really that we
really received some kind of you know, a direction to
do this or that. I mean a lot of it
had I almost feel like a criminal, you know, getting
paid to do the show because it was just so
easy and natural that it just right, you know, right.
So what was it like to come back almost ten
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years later for a year in the life. That was
very odd? It was that was very odd. What did
you think? I want to know what you thought about that?
It's it was really odd. Yeah, I I didn't feel
like him at all anymore. I've gotten married, had a son. Um.
It took me a bit, you know, to get Yeah, yeah,
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I had. Did you know I had two kids? And
you know the I don't I can't remember if we
were in Spain yet or not. I don't think so.
But um, but I had the same kind of feeling
coming back to l A when I came back from Spain,
where everything feels very familiar, but it's not familiar, and
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it's that weird juxtaposition of I should feel differently because
I know my surroundings, I know these people, I know
this stuff. But it's like I was in a coma
for ten years and just woke up and just's like, wait,
do I know you anymore? So okay, so we have
a fan question for you, Jack. I see, we have
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a Julie who wants to know the picture of pajamas
that he wore in the episode where those his real
photos on the pajamas. It was my face, but I
wasn't a wrestler, so uh they put my face on.
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Funny enough, there was a a Dolly Grip named Cal.
Remember Cal, His son was a wrestler, so they took
his picture, put my youth, you know, my face from
my youth on those and then put those on the pajamas. Okay,
so it's my face, but Cal's son's body. Oh my god. Okay,
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So here's here's the good question, and you can redeem
if you answer this correctly. Are you ready to be ready?
What are you most thankful for? From Gilmore's being that
it's friends giving and a thanksgiving sort of a podcast
right now, A love to them? What am I most
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thankful for? And I think I'm thankful for the opportunity
to get to know so many wonderful people and just
to you know, I'm really I feel so lucky and
thankful and grateful for to to be able to do it,
you know, I mean, just to meet everybody. Everybody was
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so wonderful. We really were like a family. You know.
There some of us that would fight with each other,
as some of us that would you know, we get
along great, just like any other family. And but you
still felt loved and you could love other people. And
so that that really was magical for me. Hang on,
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Getting New York is piping in. They're they're wondering if
that's right or not. Oh wait a minute, hang on, Jackson,
Hang on a second, Hang on a second. I've got
the head of the whole thing here, buddy, we're good.
Correct answer, correct answer, It's good. Okay, all right, that's
about one door dash order and that about it. Your coupons, okay,
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you're coupons. It's a gift certypicate. Okay, saying good. Thing
is money in the bank, buddy. Always. Great to see you, um,
and I guess we'll see you later. Yeah, in the
in the stick around and you stick around, buddy, and
great catching up with you and thanks for joining in. Uh,
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this was a lot of fun. I wish we had
ten times the amount of time to uh, you know
what I mean. It's just that, you know, fifteen minutes
it just doesn't cut it. Hi, Hi, are you are
you on the area? Sure? Yeah, we're my god, we've
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done forty episodes. No, I mean right now, are we
just you and I talking? Or is this part of
the podcast? No, we're live bad. We're going out to
the planet Earth. We are Earth Hill, one of the
Julian's on the planet. And thank you gravity for keeping
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me on the planet. That's I'm grateful for gravity too. Yeah.
Are you doing darling? Good? Happy holiday time. I just
got back from Maine. Where I did the musical Young Frankenstein.
I played shroud Bocher ive us my boyfriend. Man, you're
still your man. You're doing that theater stuff. That musical
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theater stuff is so fun, isn't it. Uh? Yeah, it's
not for whimps. No no, no, no no no no.
Those are tough schedules, but they're fun, right, yes, they
are fun. Audiences are great. There's nothing like a live audience,
nothing like it. So listen. The last time you're on
the podcast, we had the pleasure of seeing what you
had in your bag. Oh I'm just kind of wondering
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what isn't what is in there today? And do you
switch it out for the holidays or you know, I
took all the fun stuff out of my bag because
I was traveling in the people the t s A people.
This is a message to all the people that work
for t s A around the country. You have made
my life a living hell. I know you think it's
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fun to go through my suitcase and look through my
purse claiming that you've seen something on your scanner. You haven't,
but you've gotten word that I'm in line and now
you're dicking around with me and this happens every time
I fly, and I'm effing sick of it. And I
want you all to go like lemmings to the sea
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and disappear. You make you make travel such an unhappy
day for me. Just stop it, stop it. I never
have anything interesting, illegal or dangerous in my carry on
or my purse, So stop it. Oh you know the
power that they get the drunk with the power, right,
you know, I had all those things. I had the
chicken in my person when you squeeze that she gives
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birth to another chicken. I had the eyes that the
Google Google eyeglasses, and I had fake nose, and I
had the things to make children on the airplane stop
crying or gar them even worse. And I took it
all out of my purse because t s A. People
don't have a sense of humor. I know what he
does anywhere. Oh my goodness, Oh my goodness. So what's
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going on with you and your son? Oh he's just
you know, in robotics camp, building SUVs and amazing us
with this mathematics and how six And he's so far
beyond me now, it's just like, okay, yeah, trying to
ask me a math question, I'm not like, yeah, it's
good necks, it's it's he's great. Thanks for asking. Welcome
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in the seventies, I stret oh I did too. Where
did you run naked? Here? Were you? Hadn't? Field Memorial
High School? Four of us during an assembly. We ran
across the football field and then we ran on stage.
We streaked across the stage and god, that was very brave.
It's maybe foolish. Did you get in a big big
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doo doo trouble? No, no, no trouble. You know it
was a thing back then, if everybody was doing it. Yeah,
I street at the Playboy Club, Oh my goodness. No,
in in Lake Geneva. It was the only way to
top the playgirl bunnies because they're on these outfits with
everything pushed up without and there sexy. But you know
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what's sexy or than an a middle aged lady running
naked down the hall with a red top hat on.
So I want to ask you about one of our
favorite lines on the part. One of our favorite lines
in the episodes are are from you from Babette. Do
you remember having a Babette line that you particularly loved? Uh?
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I can't quote it exactly, but I was trying to
explain how my cats Cinnamon died, and it was pretty funny.
I remember that scene. And he fell off he thought
he was asleep and then he fell off the couch
and didn't move, and then you maybe kicked him and
he flew across this room the floor and he still
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didn't That's what I knew he was. Yeah, that was
that was hysterically funny. I remember that. I think I was.
I was running towards you. I was running towards Luke's anyway.
I don't remember if you were the receiving end. But
I had to run all the way across the little
park in the center of town where the gazebo is,
and run towards your restaurant, and when you are majorly endowed,
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it was very painful to run. So I held my
breast the entire way while I was running, and Um,
Gamy Sherman Palladino said, leave it in, So there you go. Um.
Do you have moments even to this day where you think, oh,
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that was very bad bet of me, like in your
real life? Any similarities? Well, in some ways I really
am bad, bet. Um. I've always dated taller guys and
I'm only five feet tall, and I'm highly energetic, and
I'm very nosy. You know, I sit down with somebody,
I get into their business. So I'm very very much
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like that bad Did you know that Ted Rooney who
played my husband on Gilmer Girls and I his father
was my math teacher in in high school? Yes, And
that he and I went to the same high school
and grew up in the same town. Yes. But as
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he pointed out the first day I met him, he's
younger than I am, So I didn't know him in
high school because he wasn't there yet. Right. Oh, yeah,
we had We had him on the podcast he was driving.
He did share that story. Yeah, he's a great guy.
And his dad, his dad, Ed Rooney, father of Ted Rooney,
(26:56):
was on the Johnny Carson Show one night because he
had Ted Rooney is one of like nine children, and
so you know Ed Rooney was just a high school teacher.
I mean, how do you feed a family and nine
kids on that? So he fed them horse meat and
hope that they didn't hope that they didn't know the difference.
It was cheaper than buying cow meat, and he was
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somebody got word of it, and the Tonight Show flew
down and he was on the Tonight Show talking about
feeding his family horse meat with Johnny Carson. With Johnny Carson, Yeah,
oh my god, are you gonna have Rose abdu on
on this one? Yeah? No, No, it's very funny. She's
(27:41):
very funny. She's a very brilliant gal. I love her,
she really is and her resume proves that point. And now,
speaking of Ted Rooney, we had him on the podcast
what do you remember about the scenes inside your tiny
home and and what the difference between you and Ted
height getting the way of those scenes. Uh, it didn't
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get in the way in real life, but it obviously
got the way in Babbet's marriage to him. Because when
we were having the wake at our house for our cats,
Cinnamon and Laura, I was standing in the kitchen with
me with her legs spread apart so that she would
be shorter because she was helping me with the dishes
and the counters were so low, and she she asked,
you know, if Marie had any trouble moving into this
(28:27):
house with me, and I said, well, yeah, he he
hits his head sometime on the dividus between the rooms,
but he never had a really bad concussions, Are you okay? Yeah? Yeah.
She had the house built for her own height, probably
never thinking she'd get married, and then she met maur
right right right. Let me ask you this, if there
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was ever another reboot of Gilmore Girls and you couldn't
do it for some reason because you were in a
player or another movie and the schedule didn't work, God,
who would you want to play? But that, oh, oh well,
if we could dig her up, Ruth Gordon, because that's
who my my, my performances, you know, giving honor to
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because she was the best character actress that ever lived.
Now I see that now because we just reviewed Rosemary's Baby,
because it was mentioned in the in in the first episode,
and you're right, yeah. I loved her. And then I
got to play her daughter in law in the film
The Great Houdini's Paul Michael Klaser played Harry Houdini and
I played best his wife, and Ruth Gordon played his mother,
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and we made friends, and we stayed friends until she
passed away. As a matter of fact, when I went
to New York to do my first Broadway show, she
and her husband, Garson Kanan, let me stay in their
brownstone on the East side of New York City, and
my next door neighbors were Katherine Hepburn and Stephen Sondheim.
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And on the morning of my birthday, there was an
on the front door. On the door, and then you know,
the first level was the kitchen in the dining room,
and then you went up a set of stairs, and
then it was a living room, another set of stairs,
bedrooms and bathrooms, and another set of stairs, bedrooms and bathrooms.
And my best friend Pamela was upstairs with my daughter,
who was turning too and we were trying to toilet
trainer on little party chair, and so I screamed, Pamela,
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I'm in my pajama. Someone's knocking on the door. Can
you come down and answer? And she said, I've got
Samantha on the party chair. I can't come down. So
I said, all right, I answered the door and there's
cats and Hepperd standing at my front door. I mean,
I think my mouth literally hit the floor. And I
looked at her. I said, oh, miss Happer, hello, I'm sorry,
I'm in my pajama. And she says, well, hello. Sadly,
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she says, Norah told me it was your birthday. Happy birthday. Dear,
I painted you a birthday, can't so you let take
it from me? And sundaytime this week, why don't you
come next door to my place. I'll show you all around.
I'll talk to you about Spencer Tracy, and I've got
my closets full of all my costumes all about wonderful time.
Can you make coffee at tea? This isn't happening on
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my birthday? Oh my god, Oh my god. But I
was staying in recording this Brownstone. My ears are so tiny,
their childlike my ears, that these little pods won't stay
in because my ear can't accept them. That's okay, I'm
you know, I'm not doing much talking because you're being
so great and funny. So if you here's here's a question.
(31:26):
If you could jump back in time, um to filming
any episode or season, what would it be? Oh, Gilmore Gross,
any episode or season of the Gilmore Girls, Gilmore Girls,
Um Ohm, When did I have the most fun? Probably
(31:47):
when we did was it called a year in the life?
What was it? But we came back we all haven't
seen each other in several years, and then we did
those four ninety minute movies and I felt so lucky. Yeah,
I felt like I hadn't been invited to my high
school reunion. And the reunion went on for you know,
a month. I was like a kid at Christmas, dancing
(32:10):
around the Warner Brothers lot, and Rose Abdew said to
me one day, Oh, here comes one of their where
their trolleys? What do you call those caravan things where
they drive people around to take a tour of the studio.
That the tram right, And she says, let's just stand
here and give him a thrill. But we were on
our way to the steppy uppy truck where you could
(32:31):
get snacks, and we were admonishing one another about how
we didn't need snacks but we were getting them anyway.
And then we stopped and kind of post so to
give the group on the Trauma thrill. They didn't recognize
either one of us. We both felt so awful. We
got more snacks than we even originally wanted. I gotta
(32:56):
tell you, every single time I came to work on that,
because you you worked in every episode, you were there
all the time, but I was in one in every
three episodes, maybe sometimes one in every other one. So
to me was this realization that I was still in
show business, you know, because sometimes when you're a woman,
(33:17):
when you're a woman in this industry, you're pretty much
told when you hit about forty that you're washed up.
So here I was on this very popular TV series
and being written with dialogue that was just as brilliant
as the dialogue on All in the Family, and I
really felt every day that I was there that I
had won the lottery. So I loved all of it.
(33:39):
I loved the scenes in in uh Laura Lae and
Rory's house. I was always excited when there's something in
there to do. I never ever did a scene in
her parents home. I was not never And I know
you went to the senior Gilmore's house sometimes. I was
never in any of those scenes. Yeah, those were great scenes.
That's where that's a great place to shoot. So here's
(34:01):
a fan question for you, Sally. Here's somebody typing in
from the audience. Sally, what was your favorite part of
playing that that? This is from Ashley. By the way, Ashley,
thank you for asking that. I think the favorite part.
The two favorite parts for me is that one they
let me do my very bad impression of Ruth Gordon
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and never called me on the carpet about it. And
number two, they always let me wear my own clothes
because I don't look good when you dressed me in
other people's clothes. So once they understood that I would
bring choices, I was always so comfortable on the set
in my own clothes. Right. I know that's not the
answer that you were looking for, Ashley, but but I
(34:46):
was really excited to do my get out my roof
Gorden kind of thing. Oh my god, that made me happy.
It's just it's just it's just all hitting me now
because because I mean, yeah, that's what you were doing.
It's fantastic. But it wasn't. It was an homage, it was,
but it was it was mostly you, but a little
(35:06):
bit that's yeah, that's that's good stuff. All Right, here
we go, we're gonna, we're gonna. We're gonna wrap it
upright by asking you a final question, what are you
most thankful for? From Gilmore Girls? It sounds so selfish
(35:28):
all about me, but honestly, I was really grateful. But
I was on a show that was so good and
so well liked that I stopped being approached as oh,
there's that girl from Archie Bunker. You know, people didn't
even remember it was called All in the Family. They
(35:49):
call it the Archie Bunker shows all about Archie. And
they'd come up and they'd say, you know, oh, we
haven't seen you in so long? Have you retired? Dear?
All of that kind of condescending stuff where you want
to step on their feet and walk away. But but
then I started getting stopped by people who watched Gilmore Girls,
and they it made me feel like I had come
(36:09):
alive again in my career because I had been hearing
thirty years worth of All in the Family remarks, and
now I was getting a whole new generation that would
talk to me. So and that has lasted, it still
seems current. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they keep playing it. It's
(36:30):
uh yeah. Every new generation is discovering the show and
love and falling in love with the show, and yeah,
it's it's crazy. I'm so glad you had me on
your podcast. Should I hang around? Are you gonna have
us all back in a while? Yes, we're gonna, yeah,
we're gonna wrap up the segment. You're gonna come back
for the fan Q and A. Alright, you around because
(36:51):
I love you. I love you too, very much and
I love see you in a little bit. All right,
good deal, Sally, thank you. Okay, so we're gonna, we're
gonna we're gonna go to some uh some fan Q
and A here and here's Chris and Tiffany asking, uh me, okay,
did you serve real food in Luke's diner? Oh? You
(37:16):
bet you? I did. Um. That was real cooked burgers,
that was real chicken, that was real waffles, real eggs,
real everything. Everything was real. I'm not saying it was fresh, Okay,
I'm not saying that. And sometimes extras did kind of
you know, break the rules and break down and and
(37:38):
start eating what they we would call the prop food. Um.
And I was tempted a few times myself late at
night and hungry and Crafty was running out of food
and the pizza was gone, and you know, you look
at one of those, you know, those old burgers, it's
like who cares? Just dig it? But now it was.
(38:01):
To answer your question, it was all real. Everything was real, Yes, yes, yes, yes, indeed. Um. Okay.
Next question is from Lyndy or Lynde. LYNDI, Uh, did
the fake snow in Stars Hollow have a smell to it? Yes?
(38:22):
Absolutely it did because it was made out of paper. Um,
and it smelled like paper. Uh. So it's it's just
paper that's chopped up into it's you know, fine not granules,
but pretty pretty fine, tiny little pieces of paper, hundreds
of millions of tiny little pieces of paper being shot
through a very expensive looking and very large, cumbersome machine. Uh.
(38:46):
And sometimes they'll just sort of rain it down from
a um, sort of a sieve like contraption way above you.
And you know, it's quite clever. Um, but it us
get in your ears and your nose and your mouth
and your arts and all kinds of places. So um um, yeah,
(39:08):
it smells like paper, that's what it smells like. Yeah,
there he is. Hello there man, how you doing, buddy,
I'm good. Are we live right now? We are live,
beaming out streaming out to the world. Wow, hey, say hello,
(39:29):
hi everybody, all your beautiful pable So look, let's uh,
let's do a couple of questions then well then you
can play us your song. Okay, really looking forward to um.
So anyway, thanks for coming on. Great to have you,
great to see it. My pleasure, my pleasure. And by
(39:51):
the way, I'm coming to your neck of the Woods
in February. Are you really? I am the Nashville area.
I am gonna I'm coming down there. I'm gonna work
with some top songwriters for a whole week and uh
do some podcasts with them and write some songs with them,
and I'll let you know. Yeah, it's gonna be fun. Man. Well, um,
well we've got to we've got to get together. Yes
we will. We'll hit the honky tonks, yes we will.
(40:14):
We will. So look, we absolutely loved having you on
the podcast last time. Um, what was it like strolling
down Troubadour memory Lane for you? What was it like
trolling down Troubadoor Avenue you're referring to, uh when you're
on the podcast recounting your days on right right right? Well,
(40:39):
it was great. It went by in a flash. We
got we got talking and we we covered a lot
of ground and goodness, Um, I don't know. It's a
funny thing, isn't it when you when I sometimes forget
how many seasons, how many years passed that we were
all involved with the show, you know, because it all
seems to exist in some ways for me, but like
(41:02):
in one moment, in some ways, you know, I don't
know you. And even when we went back to um
you know, to stars Hollow for the reunion, it was
like that everybody just found their place immediately. You know,
you didn't have to find the tape on the ground.
You knew where to go and everybody, everybody had a connection.
You know. It was nice. It was nice for you
(41:24):
visiting that. It really was. We just had Sally on.
She was so grateful for that opportunity to come back
and do it again, and I felt I felt the
same way at the time. It's like you won the lottery.
It's like, really, it's just happening. I mean, right right right, yeah, Um,
(41:44):
so you look very cozy and you're in your home.
I felt very cozy. I've got the you know, the
the autumnal mantle. You can see behind me, a copious
amount of flint corn behind me. And yeah, so, how
would you describe the Troubadorus music and what genre would
(42:05):
it be? M Uh, it's uh, it's traveling music. It's
it's music made for walking, for strolling. You know. I
guess maybe it's because I tend to write songs when
I'm when I'm on the move, you know, when I'm traveling. Uh,
when I'm out there on my own. Um, that was
(42:26):
a hard thing to adjust to with this your pandemic.
Suddenly I found myself kind of you know, sitting at
home and there's plenty of time to write songs. But
something about that, you know, that uh, that kind of
input that you get, you know, that that stimulation of
travel and seeing new places. You know. Um, I always
(42:47):
get a lot of ideas in that way. So I
guess it's traveling music wherever you're going metaphorically, you know, literally.
So as as we get further into the series, you know,
we see the Troubadore more and more. Um, yeah, did
you get to keep that neck microphone set up? And
(43:08):
oh I I built that. That was all my own
that yeah, you know, and um yeah, I mean Amy,
they they said, yeah, show up, you know, when I
kind of showed up with with my my suit and
my homemade um busking rig you know, a little pig
nose amp with a harmonica holder with a spray painted
(43:32):
golden microphone, and I kind of rigged the whole thing.
And I don't know if you remember, at the very beginning,
that microphone went through like a little echo box and
I had that, but I soon realized this thing is
very heavy, and I'm just gonna I'm gonna spend the
afternoon walking around. So I kind of paired it down finally,
but it was always heavy and and I had and
I had to wear it. I didn't want to do
(43:53):
a scene without it, you know, right, Yeah, How did
the Trouvadore evolve of the seasons? In your opinion? How what?
How did he? Uh, that's a good question. I think
it seems to me that with this might have taken
place early on, but it seemed to reach a fever pitch.
(44:17):
I noted that my character was always angry about something,
you know. I mean maybe maybe there's a little bit
of you know, a little bit of that, you know,
you sense it in Taylor. There there are other characters
that they have, uh, you know, that have these issues.
And mine, of course was the first reveal itself, you know,
(44:40):
when I had to like fight for my troubadour turf um,
which you know that happened. But even later on when
I come back after being on the road with with
Neil Young and uh and again, um, you know, kind
of flying off the handle there too, you know. So
here's the storyline for maybe the next reboot. We discover
(45:02):
we find out that you're really Tailor's younger brother you've
never met, and that the store, the candy store that
he inherited right from his family, was supposed to go
to you. So a lengthy court battle, you kick him
(45:23):
out of that store and you take over and he
becomes the town trooper or what do you think of that?
Do I have any chance that I think that's a
that's a great idea. I'd love to see you as
the new Tailor Wow, And I'd like I'd like to
see Taylor in with my with my amplifier around well,
(45:44):
and he will feel the pain that I haven't heard
for so long. I was, I I've made a suggestion
that Taylor like, like I have a place to make
a suggestion. What if I think Taylor should be uh
like in the Royal Order of Water Buffaloes like Fred
flint Stone. You know, doesn't he seem like he should
kind of like have a secret handshake and I stash
of some kind, you know. So I'm working on a
(46:05):
song for Emily Emily Corona with her low internet and
can't hear or can't hear me? Inspired a song. Hey, Emily,
can he you what he sent to me? I want
(46:28):
to talk to you right now, Hey, Emily, can't it?
Don't be cute? Don't you mute em They're gonna me.
(46:56):
I don't know. You're tuned to the classic Massile key
of ease something or another. I think I'm probably not. Look,
we have our own tuning, you know. I'm in Nashville.
Nashville tuning right, all right? Um like people that have
actual talent and good ears. Right, I got um, let's
(47:18):
get to your song. Man, tell us about your song?
Tell us, Oh, I'd love to. I thought it might
be nice. You know, the leaves are changing here, the
chill in the air. There's a winter front. Winter front
make it its way from one coast to the next.
And along with that, I've got a look at this.
(47:38):
This is coming out on record sort day. This is
remember these phono graphs. I do play these on your
photograph player. Um, and this is coming out finally. It's
on vinyl, not just vinyl, though, it's on that green
translucent vinyl. Yeah, and uh, it's kind of a nice thing.
(48:00):
You know. It came out last year digitally, but it's
finally available on vinyl. A painting by myself, but tuly painting.
You'll see when you come to Nashville that it's just
every every inch of it cries out to be painted.
It's a beautiful. So so i'll I'll play your song
(48:23):
off off that album that I actually premiered on The
Gilmore Girls when we did our our winter reunion. Um,
like so many it's like so many times, I got
a call from Helen she and Amy talking, do you
have a song that is uh kind of the scene
(48:45):
takes place in the winter, the whole episode actually, so
what do you think anything? And I said, you know
what I do? I wrote, I wrote a song. Um
some years ago my dad said, you know, you should
write a song, a seasonal song, a seasonal ballad, you know,
all to day number. And I said, you know, that's
a good idea, And so I did, and lo and behold,
(49:06):
it made its debut on The Gilmore Girls, just like
that serendipity. You know what's the name of the song.
It's called Winter Glow. I'll play it for you here,
all right, ladies and gentlemen, I give you Grantly Phillips. Okay,
I just gotta make sure I'm situated just right, Scott,
(49:27):
a little bar stool here and the rungs if I
can I can? There we go perfect? Okay, there we
go perfect. Okay mm hmm. You take a swig of water.
I've been eating peanuts tonight. No, and you know how
that happens, Like hours later you realize I still got
a peanut in there. They're saving up her later m hm. Okay,
(49:58):
such a tender feeling. The candle light. I'll flickering wool
shoot in the fireplaces close, thank you you full, thanks
(50:33):
so much. And that and that was on the show
that that ended up on Gilmore, that's right, yeah, yeah.
The snows coming down or crispies or whatever it was.
And I'm in front of the gazebo and I'm just emoting,
trying to try and keep my scinuces from going crazy
from those you know whatever those things are? What are there?
(50:54):
Potato buds they dropped from the sky when they wanted
to snow. You know what, now that you mention it,
it's pay paper and it's that too. Yeah. I think
sometimes they do use those potato butts, but I really
think it's mostly paper, right, yeah, wild great song, what
beautiful song. Thanks so much. What a performer in that
(51:15):
voice and the melody, Oh my goodness, I've got I've
got special fuel in me today. I'm full of Scotty peas.
I'm doubly caffeinated tonight. Songwriter's choice go to coffee for
that's right. Yes, thank you for the plug. That was wonderful.
(51:37):
That was absolutely wonderful. Um. Now were there times when
you were touring and you couldn't and you were offered
an episode? Amy and Dan reached out and you know,
can you do this episode? That episode? Sorry, now I'm Torreon,
can't do it? Did that happen to you? We? I
don't think there there was ever a time where we
(51:59):
um we have that happened, funny enough, But a lot
of that was because Um, I would get I would
get heads up, usually pretty early on, you know, before
the season was kicking in, and uh, I would try
to set aside that time, you know, and just hold
off on touring during that particular week or two. You know,
(52:20):
we kind of work around each other. But we were
lucky that way. I think there maybe there might have
been a time where I had to recut some some
dialogue or some music. Um in New York City to
replace whatever I had done on the show, because you
know that is I mean, you're out there playing and
then an airplane flies over and so you gotta you
(52:43):
gotta make it happen. So you know, that's all I
can really recall, though he got pretty lucky that way. Yeah, alright,
so we're gonna we're gonna wrap this little session here, buddy.
Thank you so much, stick Please, thank for the for
the Q and A. They're gonna for sure the fans
have many questions they want to ask you. Thank you
(53:03):
so much, buddy. Okay, that's gonna do it. That's a
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(53:24):
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(00:45):
Too Baby, two causes that are in charities that are
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And let me tell you something, there is nothing more
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that need our help and beautiful families all pulling together
for a great cause. So thank you very much forgetting
your tickets and uh and joining in. Listen. We want
to well, I'm gonna tease our guests here a little bit.
We've got Jackson Douglas, who played Jackson Belleville in series
fifty seven episodes. We've got Emily Kuroda Mrs Kim, We've
(01:28):
got Sally Strutters obviously played Babette, and Grantly Phillips the
Town Troubadour, and we are very, very very excited. I
want to thank my team UH, led by Amy Sugarman,
Danielle Romo, Riley pelusis UH and there are others behind
the scenes. Tomorrow NPR, I'm gonna butcher her last name,
(01:51):
so I'm not even gonna attempt it. There's Eastern Eastern
Allen Um, who is our attack on this and he
does fantastic work. We are in cahoots now Eastern and
I doing secret things behind everybody else's back to surprise
us the rest of the team on the podcast. The
following one is gonna be quite a reveal something that
(02:11):
I have discovered in the show. One of those things
that pops up every now and again. It's kind of
like the clown Fellow. But you'll have to download the
next podcast series of podcast to find out what it is.
But it's a bombshell, I guarantee you that. Anyway. Thank
you all for joining us and without further ado, and
let me take these off because I gotta get ready
(02:35):
to talk to one of my favorite people in the
whole world. Mr. And I think he's living in Spain now,
So let's welcome Jackson Douglas. Jackson, come on in. How
you doing, guy? Doing good? How are you doing? I'm
doing really good. Let me put my specs onto you
are not? Should I take mine off so you can't
(02:57):
see that I've got my got something else up on
my computer that you could see in my glasses now,
I don't really but I'm good. That's crazy, And I'm
not in Spain anymore. Where are you? I'm in Los Angeles.
I'm back in Los Angeles, right. I got tired of
paying for a house that I wasn't living in, so
(03:19):
we decided to come back. We're only supposed to be
gone for a year. We were always supposed to go
for a year. And we got there and it was
like a week into it and we're like, oh my god,
this is beautiful. I don't ever want to go back, right,
And then the election happened, which kind of, you know,
helped me to make my choice. But we didn't want
(03:42):
to come back, so I don't know. At the end
of a year. It takes you a year to get
used to living somewhere else, you know what I mean.
You gotta find your store, you gotta find your coffee shop,
you gotta find all that stuff, so you get used
to it after a year. So we stayed for another year,
and then we stayed for another year, and then another year,
and then another year, and then COVID happened, and then
(04:05):
so and then we decided, Okay, we got to get back.
The kids are getting old enough that they really need
to have some roots where, you know, not to move anymore.
So it was time. So they're fluent. They they're fluent Spanish, yes,
but they don't like to talk in Spanish because they're
self conscious about it. You know. They're like, they will
correct the hell out of me when I speak it wrong.
(04:28):
But you know, and they know it. They can understand it,
and if if forced they can they can speak. Yeah. Yeah,
I I My son corrects me all the time. It's
only something, but he's I call him the correct because
he's yeah, he's up my asses every day about something.
Well it's because they that's they finally have some power
(04:49):
over you, right, you know, so I give them that.
I was like, Okay, I'm the one who tells you
when to go to bed, but you can tell me
when I'm saying the wrong word, when I'm swear ring
incorrectly in Spanish. So let's get into um, let's get
into the show. You did fifty seven episodes. What did
(05:09):
you know about the role of Jackson when you got
the part? I mean, did casting say anything to you,
anything about having the same name as the characters things
like that, Yeah, a little bit. I mean I think
you know, I went when the pilot was shot. I
was in Toronto and that's where I met Amy and
(05:29):
Dan and um, and I think they were saying something
about like, oh, you're funny. You should be on the show.
And so they kind of put me in. And I
think my name originally was supposed to be Crispin, but
it was too close to Tristan, and so they said, oh, wow,
what the hell this is? Called you Jackson? Why not?
(05:52):
That's fine? It works. So you're so you yeah, exactly,
you were so you yeah that it happened, alright, So
why not just call you Jackson Douglas. Why Jackson Bellville?
I don't guess. I don't know. Maybe it's a legal thing.
I don't know, probe the minds of those two. Yeah,
(06:12):
and and what's funny is I think I think there's
even an episode where I was Melville or the last
name was Melville, and then it changed to Belleville. I
don't know. There's a lot of controversy about that. I
asked about that, and Dan just kind of blew me off.
I don't stop asking about that every time I had
to try to have a conversation with us, too. I
(06:32):
wear a miner's homet with the nextra on the helmet.
It's about right. Yeah. So it's funny that you ask me,
is do you have any insight into any of that?
It's like, uh, do we ever? Do we ever have
any insight into the hy No? Accept it and move on.
(06:56):
Learned not to ask questions, service to will and get
that food. Go stand on your marks, say your words
really fast, and be done. We want to go home.
Well that's the Kapper man. So tell me, you know,
how would you describe in your own words? Uh? Not
that you can use anybody else's get try all right?
(07:18):
In Pierce bronss No, No, we can steal or or
or or or James Bond, which, all right, I'll do
me because I'm really bad at the voices. How would
you describe Jackson in your own words or Arnold swag
Schwartzenegger's words or yeah, I don't know, you know, it
(07:42):
was it was an interesting It was really an interesting
role because I think it was just kind of a
I mean, the best way that I can describe it,
at least the way I feel about it. It's just
a hyperbolized version of me. You know. It's funny how
you would live life and they would all of a
sudden end up in the script. I got named the
president of the Homos Association, and a month later later
(08:05):
we were doing I was being elected the town selectman.
You know, because I don't know, Amy just seemed to
think that my life was hilarious and just needed to
use that for something. So, you know, Umm, although there
are there are some differences, like when I get angry,
(08:27):
I don't act like Jackson does when he gets angry.
I think Jackson's more of it. You can kind of
laugh at his anger. My kids, well, well that's not true.
Now my kids laugh at my anger too, so they
don't take me seriously. Anymore and let me just start laughing,
which really doesn't do much for my anger. Um. But yeah,
(08:54):
I mean, I don't know. I mean it was a
lot of fun to play. I mean everybody, I don't know,
it was so easy. I mean, the character it was
just so much fun. And I got along with everybody
so well that it just it really did become effortless.
The hardest thing was just to use somebody else's words,
you know, try to It's like, oh, I wouldn't speak
(09:16):
that way, but I've got to try and force my
mouth to, you know, say it a certain way. Or
plus you get to, you know, work with Melissa McCarthy
for god, Well, yeah, it didn't feel like right exactly
because we've said on the show, on the podcast, we
(09:38):
you know, we could I could see because I haven't
seen the episodes, right, so I'm watching for the first time.
It's the whole thesis of the podcast. And you know,
the talent on her from the very first moment you
see her is so glaring and apparent and and just like, wow,
did you see it too? You must have seen it, right.
(09:59):
I guess I felt it, you know, and I guess
I'm really really fortunate that I felt such a wonderful
personal connection with her that I think if I were
to oh my god, I mean, now that you mentioned it,
I kind of just got shivers. How if I looked
at it the way that you're you described it, I
(10:19):
think I would have been really intimidated. And I don't
think I would have been able to even close, you know,
I think I think, yeah, it was just but she's
just so I mean, she's just so nice and warm
and loving as a person that it's hard to be
intimidated around it. You just kind of get in the
(10:41):
role with it, you know, you just kind of she
doesn't even know how funny she is. Not. She didn't
back that. I mean, she she did some things. We
did an interview together for the Humorously Enough for ESPN,
and you know, in the very beginning, so there we
are seated together in our director's chairs and there's ESPN
(11:02):
and there, you know, and and they asked us how
we stay in shape? And you know, I said, well,
you know, I run a little bit of oh my god,
are we supposed to stay in shape? Walk up and
down the stairs, that kind of thing. And she and
then when they asked her, she immediately said, oh, I
love the box, you know, And I thought she was kidding,
(11:22):
and I let out a little bit of a life
because just the way she inflects her work, and it's
just it's just naturally funny. Um. And so she doesn't
know she's so quick and and and you know, the
phrasing is so just beautifully time that you have you
can't help it, not law Can you remember your favorite
(11:45):
scene that you filmed with her? Uh? Now, if you
answer correctly, I'll send you fifty dollars. Oh you mean
there's a correct answer. Well, of course, as a correct answer,
and it has to be it's got my favorite scene.
I would be the only one who would know the
answer to that. I don't know. I mean, there were
so many there was We had a lot of fun
(12:08):
when we did the pre wedding um high jinks, you
know where I was running around Balboa Park in a
skirt a kilt. But um, you know, we we're doing
photos and stuff like that. I think the I think
the one that really sticks out in my mind is
the is when we get when we decided to move
(12:32):
in together or kind of get engaged. There's a picnic
that we did and it was. It's like a when
you watch it on TV. You see it's a bright
sunny day and we're having this picnic in the park
and it was two o'clock in the morning and pitch
black outside, you know, and it was lit uh night
for day and you wouldn't even know. And it was
(12:55):
just so surreal and but it really added something to
the scene because it kind of took your headspace out
of you know, it became kind of oh, I'm too
old in my my brain just drops words um not ethereal,
but it's you know, it just kind of takes you
(13:16):
out of yourself and out of the moment. And it
felt felt very different and special. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
oh my so many Oh my god. I was so
sweaty and tired at the end of the day. And
I think and I think they had it after one,
but you know, I think Amy and Dan just felt
(13:38):
that they just were laughing at my running and just
wanted to torture me. But it was fun. It was
fun torture. I remember that one that was good is
that The correct answer is that being? Is that one?
Or is it deep Fred Shoe Thanksgiving did not answer correctly,
so I don't get by my own dinner to night,
(14:00):
but I will send you bag of coffee. So okay,
that's to look forward to, all right, I'll take the
parting gift. So we're only a handful into of episodes
into season two, and we're starting to see your romance
with melissic Rono, SUPI grow. What type of direction did
you receive when it came to you and Melissa in
(14:22):
that regard? I think, Um, I don't think there was
a lot. I don't think there was a lot of direction.
There's one there's one scene that I'm that I'm so
embarrassed about that I just even to this day, I cringe.
(14:44):
And there's and it's when we have our first child
and Jamie Babbott was directing, and um, and so we're
in the hospital we've had the child, and I'm go
up to her and I give her a big kiss
or a big hug and a kiss. And she's like
saying that, and she kept saying, you know, we'll give
(15:06):
her a kiss, give her a kiss. But I've never
done an on screen kiss before, and I know Melissa
so well. It just felt so weird to have to
fake this and I just couldn't do it. I just couldn't.
I end up giving her a great big hug, and
(15:28):
I just feel like I failed as an actor that day,
failed so hard. How it would have been a really tender,
you know, a wonderful, wonderful moment, but the the person
that is me, I just couldn't get over that, you know,
(15:48):
over that. I don't know, it was really weird. Maybe
you took it in the direction that was unexpected and
even more effective, more emotional in a way. Maybe, yeah,
all right, I'll take that to kind of save my
salve my guilt. But um, yeah, but I so, I
(16:09):
think that's the only time that I really that we
really received some kind of you know, a direction to
do this or that. I mean a lot of it
had I almost feel like a criminal, you know, getting
paid to do the show because it was just so
easy and natural that it just right, you know, right.
So what was it like to come back almost ten
(16:31):
years later for a year in the life. That was
very odd? It was that was very odd. What did
you think? I want to know what you thought about that?
It's it was really odd. Yeah, I I didn't feel
like him at all anymore. I've gotten married, had a son. Um.
It took me a bit, you know, to get Yeah, yeah,
(16:51):
I had. Did you know I had two kids? And
you know the I don't I can't remember if we
were in Spain yet or not. I don't think so.
But um, but I had the same kind of feeling
coming back to l A when I came back from Spain,
where everything feels very familiar, but it's not familiar, and
(17:13):
it's that weird juxtaposition of I should feel differently because
I know my surroundings, I know these people, I know
this stuff. But it's like I was in a coma
for ten years and just woke up and just's like, wait,
do I know you anymore? So okay, so we have
a fan question for you, Jack. I see, we have
(17:36):
a Julie who wants to know the picture of pajamas
that he wore in the episode where those his real
photos on the pajamas. It was my face, but I
wasn't a wrestler, so uh they put my face on.
(17:57):
Funny enough, there was a a Dolly Grip named Cal.
Remember Cal, His son was a wrestler, so they took
his picture, put my youth, you know, my face from
my youth on those and then put those on the pajamas. Okay,
so it's my face, but Cal's son's body. Oh my god. Okay,
(18:22):
So here's here's the good question, and you can redeem
if you answer this correctly. Are you ready to be ready?
What are you most thankful for? From Gilmore's being that
it's friends giving and a thanksgiving sort of a podcast
right now, A love to them? What am I most
(18:44):
thankful for? And I think I'm thankful for the opportunity
to get to know so many wonderful people and just
to you know, I'm really I feel so lucky and
thankful and grateful for to to be able to do it,
you know, I mean, just to meet everybody. Everybody was
(19:05):
so wonderful. We really were like a family. You know.
There some of us that would fight with each other,
as some of us that would you know, we get
along great, just like any other family. And but you
still felt loved and you could love other people. And
so that that really was magical for me. Hang on,
(19:25):
Getting New York is piping in. They're they're wondering if
that's right or not. Oh wait a minute, hang on, Jackson,
Hang on a second, Hang on a second. I've got
the head of the whole thing here, buddy, we're good.
Correct answer, correct answer, It's good. Okay, all right, that's
about one door dash order and that about it. Your coupons, okay,
(19:50):
you're coupons. It's a gift certypicate. Okay, saying good. Thing
is money in the bank, buddy. Always. Great to see you, um,
and I guess we'll see you later. Yeah, in the
in the stick around and you stick around, buddy, and
great catching up with you and thanks for joining in. Uh,
(20:12):
this was a lot of fun. I wish we had
ten times the amount of time to uh, you know
what I mean. It's just that, you know, fifteen minutes
it just doesn't cut it. Hi, Hi, are you are
you on the area? Sure? Yeah, we're my god, we've
(20:33):
done forty episodes. No, I mean right now, are we
just you and I talking? Or is this part of
the podcast? No, we're live bad. We're going out to
the planet Earth. We are Earth Hill, one of the
Julian's on the planet. And thank you gravity for keeping
(20:54):
me on the planet. That's I'm grateful for gravity too. Yeah.
Are you doing darling? Good? Happy holiday time. I just
got back from Maine. Where I did the musical Young Frankenstein.
I played shroud Bocher ive us my boyfriend. Man, you're
still your man. You're doing that theater stuff. That musical
(21:18):
theater stuff is so fun, isn't it. Uh? Yeah, it's
not for whimps. No no, no, no no no no.
Those are tough schedules, but they're fun, right, yes, they
are fun. Audiences are great. There's nothing like a live audience,
nothing like it. So listen. The last time you're on
the podcast, we had the pleasure of seeing what you
had in your bag. Oh I'm just kind of wondering
(21:41):
what isn't what is in there today? And do you
switch it out for the holidays or you know, I
took all the fun stuff out of my bag because
I was traveling in the people the t s A people.
This is a message to all the people that work
for t s A around the country. You have made
my life a living hell. I know you think it's
(22:01):
fun to go through my suitcase and look through my
purse claiming that you've seen something on your scanner. You haven't,
but you've gotten word that I'm in line and now
you're dicking around with me and this happens every time
I fly, and I'm effing sick of it. And I
want you all to go like lemmings to the sea
(22:22):
and disappear. You make you make travel such an unhappy
day for me. Just stop it, stop it. I never
have anything interesting, illegal or dangerous in my carry on
or my purse, So stop it. Oh you know the
power that they get the drunk with the power, right,
you know, I had all those things. I had the
chicken in my person when you squeeze that she gives
(22:44):
birth to another chicken. I had the eyes that the
Google Google eyeglasses, and I had fake nose, and I
had the things to make children on the airplane stop
crying or gar them even worse. And I took it
all out of my purse because t s A. People
don't have a sense of humor. I know what he
does anywhere. Oh my goodness, Oh my goodness. So what's
(23:07):
going on with you and your son? Oh he's just
you know, in robotics camp, building SUVs and amazing us
with this mathematics and how six And he's so far
beyond me now, it's just like, okay, yeah, trying to
ask me a math question, I'm not like, yeah, it's
good necks, it's it's he's great. Thanks for asking. Welcome
(23:34):
in the seventies, I stret oh I did too. Where
did you run naked? Here? Were you? Hadn't? Field Memorial
High School? Four of us during an assembly. We ran
across the football field and then we ran on stage.
We streaked across the stage and god, that was very brave.
It's maybe foolish. Did you get in a big big
(23:55):
doo doo trouble? No, no, no trouble. You know it
was a thing back then, if everybody was doing it. Yeah,
I street at the Playboy Club, Oh my goodness. No,
in in Lake Geneva. It was the only way to
top the playgirl bunnies because they're on these outfits with
everything pushed up without and there sexy. But you know
(24:17):
what's sexy or than an a middle aged lady running
naked down the hall with a red top hat on.
So I want to ask you about one of our
favorite lines on the part. One of our favorite lines
in the episodes are are from you from Babette. Do
you remember having a Babette line that you particularly loved? Uh?
(24:42):
I can't quote it exactly, but I was trying to
explain how my cats Cinnamon died, and it was pretty funny.
I remember that scene. And he fell off he thought
he was asleep and then he fell off the couch
and didn't move, and then you maybe kicked him and
he flew across this room the floor and he still
(25:03):
didn't That's what I knew he was. Yeah, that was
that was hysterically funny. I remember that. I think I was.
I was running towards you. I was running towards Luke's anyway.
I don't remember if you were the receiving end. But
I had to run all the way across the little
park in the center of town where the gazebo is,
and run towards your restaurant, and when you are majorly endowed,
(25:28):
it was very painful to run. So I held my
breast the entire way while I was running, and Um,
Gamy Sherman Palladino said, leave it in, So there you go. Um.
Do you have moments even to this day where you think, oh,
(25:50):
that was very bad bet of me, like in your
real life? Any similarities? Well, in some ways I really
am bad, bet. Um. I've always dated taller guys and
I'm only five feet tall, and I'm highly energetic, and
I'm very nosy. You know, I sit down with somebody,
I get into their business. So I'm very very much
(26:13):
like that bad Did you know that Ted Rooney who
played my husband on Gilmer Girls and I his father
was my math teacher in in high school? Yes, And
that he and I went to the same high school
and grew up in the same town. Yes. But as
(26:33):
he pointed out the first day I met him, he's
younger than I am, So I didn't know him in
high school because he wasn't there yet. Right. Oh, yeah,
we had We had him on the podcast he was driving.
He did share that story. Yeah, he's a great guy.
And his dad, his dad, Ed Rooney, father of Ted Rooney,
(26:56):
was on the Johnny Carson Show one night because he
had Ted Rooney is one of like nine children, and
so you know Ed Rooney was just a high school teacher.
I mean, how do you feed a family and nine
kids on that? So he fed them horse meat and
hope that they didn't hope that they didn't know the difference.
It was cheaper than buying cow meat, and he was
(27:17):
somebody got word of it, and the Tonight Show flew
down and he was on the Tonight Show talking about
feeding his family horse meat with Johnny Carson. With Johnny Carson, Yeah,
oh my god, are you gonna have Rose abdu on
on this one? Yeah? No, No, it's very funny. She's
(27:41):
very funny. She's a very brilliant gal. I love her,
she really is and her resume proves that point. And now,
speaking of Ted Rooney, we had him on the podcast
what do you remember about the scenes inside your tiny
home and and what the difference between you and Ted
height getting the way of those scenes. Uh, it didn't
(28:04):
get in the way in real life, but it obviously
got the way in Babbet's marriage to him. Because when
we were having the wake at our house for our cats,
Cinnamon and Laura, I was standing in the kitchen with
me with her legs spread apart so that she would
be shorter because she was helping me with the dishes
and the counters were so low, and she she asked,
you know, if Marie had any trouble moving into this
(28:27):
house with me, and I said, well, yeah, he he
hits his head sometime on the dividus between the rooms,
but he never had a really bad concussions, Are you okay? Yeah? Yeah.
She had the house built for her own height, probably
never thinking she'd get married, and then she met maur
right right right. Let me ask you this, if there
(28:50):
was ever another reboot of Gilmore Girls and you couldn't
do it for some reason because you were in a
player or another movie and the schedule didn't work, God,
who would you want to play? But that, oh, oh well,
if we could dig her up, Ruth Gordon, because that's
who my my, my performances, you know, giving honor to
(29:14):
because she was the best character actress that ever lived.
Now I see that now because we just reviewed Rosemary's Baby,
because it was mentioned in the in in the first episode,
and you're right, yeah. I loved her. And then I
got to play her daughter in law in the film
The Great Houdini's Paul Michael Klaser played Harry Houdini and
I played best his wife, and Ruth Gordon played his mother,
(29:37):
and we made friends, and we stayed friends until she
passed away. As a matter of fact, when I went
to New York to do my first Broadway show, she
and her husband, Garson Kanan, let me stay in their
brownstone on the East side of New York City, and
my next door neighbors were Katherine Hepburn and Stephen Sondheim.
(29:57):
And on the morning of my birthday, there was an
on the front door. On the door, and then you know,
the first level was the kitchen in the dining room,
and then you went up a set of stairs, and
then it was a living room, another set of stairs,
bedrooms and bathrooms, and another set of stairs, bedrooms and bathrooms.
And my best friend Pamela was upstairs with my daughter,
who was turning too and we were trying to toilet
trainer on little party chair, and so I screamed, Pamela,
(30:18):
I'm in my pajama. Someone's knocking on the door. Can
you come down and answer? And she said, I've got
Samantha on the party chair. I can't come down. So
I said, all right, I answered the door and there's
cats and Hepperd standing at my front door. I mean,
I think my mouth literally hit the floor. And I
looked at her. I said, oh, miss Happer, hello, I'm sorry,
I'm in my pajama. And she says, well, hello. Sadly,
(30:40):
she says, Norah told me it was your birthday. Happy birthday. Dear,
I painted you a birthday, can't so you let take
it from me? And sundaytime this week, why don't you
come next door to my place. I'll show you all around.
I'll talk to you about Spencer Tracy, and I've got
my closets full of all my costumes all about wonderful time.
Can you make coffee at tea? This isn't happening on
(31:03):
my birthday? Oh my god, Oh my god. But I
was staying in recording this Brownstone. My ears are so tiny,
their childlike my ears, that these little pods won't stay
in because my ear can't accept them. That's okay, I'm
you know, I'm not doing much talking because you're being
so great and funny. So if you here's here's a question.
(31:26):
If you could jump back in time, um to filming
any episode or season, what would it be? Oh, Gilmore Gross,
any episode or season of the Gilmore Girls, Gilmore Girls,
Um Ohm, When did I have the most fun? Probably
(31:47):
when we did was it called a year in the life?
What was it? But we came back we all haven't
seen each other in several years, and then we did
those four ninety minute movies and I felt so lucky. Yeah,
I felt like I hadn't been invited to my high
school reunion. And the reunion went on for you know,
a month. I was like a kid at Christmas, dancing
(32:10):
around the Warner Brothers lot, and Rose Abdew said to
me one day, Oh, here comes one of their where
their trolleys? What do you call those caravan things where
they drive people around to take a tour of the studio.
That the tram right, And she says, let's just stand
here and give him a thrill. But we were on
our way to the steppy uppy truck where you could
(32:31):
get snacks, and we were admonishing one another about how
we didn't need snacks but we were getting them anyway.
And then we stopped and kind of post so to
give the group on the Trauma thrill. They didn't recognize
either one of us. We both felt so awful. We
got more snacks than we even originally wanted. I gotta
(32:56):
tell you, every single time I came to work on that,
because you you worked in every episode, you were there
all the time, but I was in one in every
three episodes, maybe sometimes one in every other one. So
to me was this realization that I was still in
show business, you know, because sometimes when you're a woman,
(33:17):
when you're a woman in this industry, you're pretty much
told when you hit about forty that you're washed up.
So here I was on this very popular TV series
and being written with dialogue that was just as brilliant
as the dialogue on All in the Family, and I
really felt every day that I was there that I
had won the lottery. So I loved all of it.
(33:39):
I loved the scenes in in uh Laura Lae and
Rory's house. I was always excited when there's something in
there to do. I never ever did a scene in
her parents home. I was not never And I know
you went to the senior Gilmore's house sometimes. I was
never in any of those scenes. Yeah, those were great scenes.
That's where that's a great place to shoot. So here's
(34:01):
a fan question for you, Sally. Here's somebody typing in
from the audience. Sally, what was your favorite part of
playing that that? This is from Ashley. By the way, Ashley,
thank you for asking that. I think the favorite part.
The two favorite parts for me is that one they
let me do my very bad impression of Ruth Gordon
(34:22):
and never called me on the carpet about it. And
number two, they always let me wear my own clothes
because I don't look good when you dressed me in
other people's clothes. So once they understood that I would
bring choices, I was always so comfortable on the set
in my own clothes. Right. I know that's not the
answer that you were looking for, Ashley, but but I
(34:46):
was really excited to do my get out my roof
Gorden kind of thing. Oh my god, that made me happy.
It's just it's just it's just all hitting me now
because because I mean, yeah, that's what you were doing.
It's fantastic. But it wasn't. It was an homage, it was,
but it was it was mostly you, but a little
(35:06):
bit that's yeah, that's that's good stuff. All Right, here
we go, we're gonna, we're gonna. We're gonna wrap it
upright by asking you a final question, what are you
most thankful for? From Gilmore Girls? It sounds so selfish
(35:28):
all about me, but honestly, I was really grateful. But
I was on a show that was so good and
so well liked that I stopped being approached as oh,
there's that girl from Archie Bunker. You know, people didn't
even remember it was called All in the Family. They
(35:49):
call it the Archie Bunker shows all about Archie. And
they'd come up and they'd say, you know, oh, we
haven't seen you in so long? Have you retired? Dear?
All of that kind of condescending stuff where you want
to step on their feet and walk away. But but
then I started getting stopped by people who watched Gilmore Girls,
and they it made me feel like I had come
(36:09):
alive again in my career because I had been hearing
thirty years worth of All in the Family remarks, and
now I was getting a whole new generation that would
talk to me. So and that has lasted, it still
seems current. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they keep playing it. It's
(36:30):
uh yeah. Every new generation is discovering the show and
love and falling in love with the show, and yeah,
it's it's crazy. I'm so glad you had me on
your podcast. Should I hang around? Are you gonna have
us all back in a while? Yes, we're gonna, yeah,
we're gonna wrap up the segment. You're gonna come back
for the fan Q and A. Alright, you around because
(36:51):
I love you. I love you too, very much and
I love see you in a little bit. All right,
good deal, Sally, thank you. Okay, so we're gonna, we're
gonna we're gonna go to some uh some fan Q
and A here and here's Chris and Tiffany asking, uh me, okay,
did you serve real food in Luke's diner? Oh? You
(37:16):
bet you? I did. Um. That was real cooked burgers,
that was real chicken, that was real waffles, real eggs,
real everything. Everything was real. I'm not saying it was fresh, Okay,
I'm not saying that. And sometimes extras did kind of
you know, break the rules and break down and and
(37:38):
start eating what they we would call the prop food. Um.
And I was tempted a few times myself late at
night and hungry and Crafty was running out of food
and the pizza was gone, and you know, you look
at one of those, you know, those old burgers, it's
like who cares? Just dig it? But now it was.
(38:01):
To answer your question, it was all real. Everything was real, Yes, yes, yes, yes, indeed. Um. Okay.
Next question is from Lyndy or Lynde. LYNDI, Uh, did
the fake snow in Stars Hollow have a smell to it? Yes?
(38:22):
Absolutely it did because it was made out of paper. Um,
and it smelled like paper. Uh. So it's it's just
paper that's chopped up into it's you know, fine not granules,
but pretty pretty fine, tiny little pieces of paper, hundreds
of millions of tiny little pieces of paper being shot
through a very expensive looking and very large, cumbersome machine. Uh.
(38:46):
And sometimes they'll just sort of rain it down from
a um, sort of a sieve like contraption way above you.
And you know, it's quite clever. Um, but it us
get in your ears and your nose and your mouth
and your arts and all kinds of places. So um um, yeah,
(39:08):
it smells like paper, that's what it smells like. Yeah,
there he is. Hello there man, how you doing, buddy,
I'm good. Are we live right now? We are live,
beaming out streaming out to the world. Wow, hey, say hello,
(39:29):
hi everybody, all your beautiful pable So look, let's uh,
let's do a couple of questions then well then you
can play us your song. Okay, really looking forward to um.
So anyway, thanks for coming on. Great to have you,
great to see it. My pleasure, my pleasure. And by
(39:51):
the way, I'm coming to your neck of the Woods
in February. Are you really? I am the Nashville area.
I am gonna I'm coming down there. I'm gonna work
with some top songwriters for a whole week and uh
do some podcasts with them and write some songs with them,
and I'll let you know. Yeah, it's gonna be fun. Man. Well, um,
well we've got to we've got to get together. Yes
we will. We'll hit the honky tonks, yes we will.
(40:14):
We will. So look, we absolutely loved having you on
the podcast last time. Um, what was it like strolling
down Troubadour memory Lane for you? What was it like
trolling down Troubadoor Avenue you're referring to, uh when you're
on the podcast recounting your days on right right right? Well,
(40:39):
it was great. It went by in a flash. We
got we got talking and we we covered a lot
of ground and goodness, Um, I don't know. It's a
funny thing, isn't it when you when I sometimes forget
how many seasons, how many years passed that we were
all involved with the show, you know, because it all
seems to exist in some ways for me, but like
(41:02):
in one moment, in some ways, you know, I don't
know you. And even when we went back to um
you know, to stars Hollow for the reunion, it was
like that everybody just found their place immediately. You know,
you didn't have to find the tape on the ground.
You knew where to go and everybody, everybody had a connection.
You know. It was nice. It was nice for you
(41:24):
visiting that. It really was. We just had Sally on.
She was so grateful for that opportunity to come back
and do it again, and I felt I felt the
same way at the time. It's like you won the lottery.
It's like, really, it's just happening. I mean, right right right, yeah, Um,
(41:44):
so you look very cozy and you're in your home.
I felt very cozy. I've got the you know, the
the autumnal mantle. You can see behind me, a copious
amount of flint corn behind me. And yeah, so, how
would you describe the Troubadorus music and what genre would
(42:05):
it be? M Uh, it's uh, it's traveling music. It's
it's music made for walking, for strolling. You know. I
guess maybe it's because I tend to write songs when
I'm when I'm on the move, you know, when I'm traveling. Uh,
when I'm out there on my own. Um, that was
(42:26):
a hard thing to adjust to with this your pandemic.
Suddenly I found myself kind of you know, sitting at
home and there's plenty of time to write songs. But
something about that, you know, that uh, that kind of
input that you get, you know, that that stimulation of
travel and seeing new places. You know. Um, I always
(42:47):
get a lot of ideas in that way. So I
guess it's traveling music wherever you're going metaphorically, you know, literally.
So as as we get further into the series, you know,
we see the Troubadore more and more. Um, yeah, did
you get to keep that neck microphone set up? And
(43:08):
oh I I built that. That was all my own
that yeah, you know, and um yeah, I mean Amy,
they they said, yeah, show up, you know, when I
kind of showed up with with my my suit and
my homemade um busking rig you know, a little pig
nose amp with a harmonica holder with a spray painted
(43:32):
golden microphone, and I kind of rigged the whole thing.
And I don't know if you remember, at the very beginning,
that microphone went through like a little echo box and
I had that, but I soon realized this thing is
very heavy, and I'm just gonna I'm gonna spend the
afternoon walking around. So I kind of paired it down finally,
but it was always heavy and and I had and
I had to wear it. I didn't want to do
(43:53):
a scene without it, you know, right, Yeah, How did
the Trouvadore evolve of the seasons? In your opinion? How what?
How did he? Uh, that's a good question. I think
it seems to me that with this might have taken
place early on, but it seemed to reach a fever pitch.
(44:17):
I noted that my character was always angry about something,
you know. I mean maybe maybe there's a little bit
of you know, a little bit of that, you know,
you sense it in Taylor. There there are other characters
that they have, uh, you know, that have these issues.
And mine, of course was the first reveal itself, you know,
(44:40):
when I had to like fight for my troubadour turf um,
which you know that happened. But even later on when
I come back after being on the road with with
Neil Young and uh and again, um, you know, kind
of flying off the handle there too, you know. So
here's the storyline for maybe the next reboot. We discover
(45:02):
we find out that you're really Tailor's younger brother you've
never met, and that the store, the candy store that
he inherited right from his family, was supposed to go
to you. So a lengthy court battle, you kick him
(45:23):
out of that store and you take over and he
becomes the town trooper or what do you think of that?
Do I have any chance that I think that's a
that's a great idea. I'd love to see you as
the new Tailor Wow, And I'd like I'd like to
see Taylor in with my with my amplifier around well,
(45:44):
and he will feel the pain that I haven't heard
for so long. I was, I I've made a suggestion
that Taylor like, like I have a place to make
a suggestion. What if I think Taylor should be uh
like in the Royal Order of Water Buffaloes like Fred
flint Stone. You know, doesn't he seem like he should
kind of like have a secret handshake and I stash
of some kind, you know. So I'm working on a
(46:05):
song for Emily Emily Corona with her low internet and
can't hear or can't hear me? Inspired a song. Hey, Emily,
can he you what he sent to me? I want
(46:28):
to talk to you right now, Hey, Emily, can't it?
Don't be cute? Don't you mute em They're gonna me.
(46:56):
I don't know. You're tuned to the classic Massile key
of ease something or another. I think I'm probably not. Look,
we have our own tuning, you know. I'm in Nashville.
Nashville tuning right, all right? Um like people that have
actual talent and good ears. Right, I got um, let's
(47:18):
get to your song. Man, tell us about your song?
Tell us, Oh, I'd love to. I thought it might
be nice. You know, the leaves are changing here, the
chill in the air. There's a winter front. Winter front
make it its way from one coast to the next.
And along with that, I've got a look at this.
(47:38):
This is coming out on record sort day. This is
remember these phono graphs. I do play these on your
photograph player. Um, and this is coming out finally. It's
on vinyl, not just vinyl, though, it's on that green
translucent vinyl. Yeah, and uh, it's kind of a nice thing.
(48:00):
You know. It came out last year digitally, but it's
finally available on vinyl. A painting by myself, but tuly painting.
You'll see when you come to Nashville that it's just
every every inch of it cries out to be painted.
It's a beautiful. So so i'll I'll play your song
(48:23):
off off that album that I actually premiered on The
Gilmore Girls when we did our our winter reunion. Um,
like so many it's like so many times, I got
a call from Helen she and Amy talking, do you
have a song that is uh kind of the scene
(48:45):
takes place in the winter, the whole episode actually, so
what do you think anything? And I said, you know
what I do? I wrote, I wrote a song. Um
some years ago my dad said, you know, you should
write a song, a seasonal song, a seasonal ballad, you know,
all to day number. And I said, you know, that's
a good idea, And so I did, and lo and behold,
(49:06):
it made its debut on The Gilmore Girls, just like
that serendipity. You know what's the name of the song.
It's called Winter Glow. I'll play it for you here,
all right, ladies and gentlemen, I give you Grantly Phillips. Okay,
I just gotta make sure I'm situated just right, Scott,
(49:27):
a little bar stool here and the rungs if I
can I can? There we go perfect? Okay, there we
go perfect. Okay mm hmm. You take a swig of water.
I've been eating peanuts tonight. No, and you know how
that happens, Like hours later you realize I still got
a peanut in there. They're saving up her later m hm. Okay,
(49:58):
such a tender feeling. The candle light. I'll flickering wool
shoot in the fireplaces close, thank you you full, thanks
(50:33):
so much. And that and that was on the show
that that ended up on Gilmore, that's right, yeah, yeah.
The snows coming down or crispies or whatever it was.
And I'm in front of the gazebo and I'm just emoting,
trying to try and keep my scinuces from going crazy
from those you know whatever those things are? What are there?
(50:54):
Potato buds they dropped from the sky when they wanted
to snow. You know what, now that you mention it,
it's pay paper and it's that too. Yeah. I think
sometimes they do use those potato butts, but I really
think it's mostly paper, right, yeah, wild great song, what
beautiful song. Thanks so much. What a performer in that
(51:15):
voice and the melody, Oh my goodness, I've got I've
got special fuel in me today. I'm full of Scotty peas.
I'm doubly caffeinated tonight. Songwriter's choice go to coffee for
that's right. Yes, thank you for the plug. That was wonderful.
(51:37):
That was absolutely wonderful. Um. Now were there times when
you were touring and you couldn't and you were offered
an episode? Amy and Dan reached out and you know,
can you do this episode? That episode? Sorry, now I'm Torreon,
can't do it? Did that happen to you? We? I
don't think there there was ever a time where we
(51:59):
um we have that happened, funny enough, But a lot
of that was because Um, I would get I would
get heads up, usually pretty early on, you know, before
the season was kicking in, and uh, I would try
to set aside that time, you know, and just hold
off on touring during that particular week or two. You know,
(52:20):
we kind of work around each other. But we were
lucky that way. I think there maybe there might have
been a time where I had to recut some some
dialogue or some music. Um in New York City to
replace whatever I had done on the show, because you
know that is I mean, you're out there playing and
then an airplane flies over and so you gotta you
(52:43):
gotta make it happen. So you know, that's all I
can really recall, though he got pretty lucky that way. Yeah, alright,
so we're gonna we're gonna wrap this little session here, buddy.
Thank you so much, stick Please, thank for the for
the Q and A. They're gonna for sure the fans
have many questions they want to ask you. Thank you
(53:03):
so much, buddy. Okay, that's gonna do it. That's a
rap on our first annual live virtual event, Friends Giving.
We're going to do another one real soon. We'll let
you know when that is. You are the best fans
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(53:24):
all the best, much love, hey everybody, and don't forget
(53:56):
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