In Fact, Everyone’s Coffee is on the House Today (S2 E4, "The Road Trip to Harvard")

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I am all in. Oh, let's just you. I am
all in? What Scott Patterson and I Heart Radio podcast?

(00:22):
All right, hey, everybody, Scott Patterson here and this is
the I Am All In Podcast. I Heart Radio one
eleven Productions. We've got two really special guests coming on
at the same time. My old buddy James Pettitt from
Warner Brothers. He's ahead of marketing and also he's bringing
with him um a wonderful actor named Carl Wright who

(00:43):
played the Harvard professor in this episode, and I think
in one other episode. And uh so, guys, let's let's
get into this episode a little bit. What do you think?
H Yes, I love this episode. Did you already recap
it at the beginning? Did I miss anything? No? No,
you're your first up, buddy, You're you guys are first up.
So I think I actually wrote this brief synopsis back

(01:07):
when I was at the w B network, so I
will read it quickly. With the wedding canceled, Laura Lai
is eager to escape the sympathies of everyone in Stars Hollow,
so she and Rory take off on a road trip
that ultimately leads to Harvard University. While Rory confronts her
dreams of college life. Laura Lia ponders what might have been.

(01:31):
But there's more. There's this whole thing where she hasn't
told you Luke about not getting married. Right. You know,
I thought the episode started. I thought the episode started off. Okay,
I did uh bristle a bit on the lauralized criticisms

(01:55):
of country music, and you know, I didn't. And I
was like, oh, I know. But it's like, as a
you know, the producer in me, I was saying, why
are you alienating the most uh popular form of music
in the world right now or or or you know,
I didn't get that, and I think that's the iconoclastic

(02:16):
nature of the creator. Um. But it's like as a producer,
and I think this is where the studio may have
pushed back on her and said, listen, why are we
alienating half the world here? We want people to watch
the show. We don't want to lead character to trash
country music because I mean there's a lot of great
country music. I mean, there's a lot of great rock music.

(02:38):
There's a lot of right in every genre. There's like,
you know, the bad part of it, there's a good
part of it. But Um, I had no idea that
Jodie and the Blowfish with country music because that's what
they know. It wasn't what didn't start out that way.
It had maybe a flavor because I think he's from there,
from North Carolina or something. But it was more it
was more kind of rock, kind of country is rock

(03:02):
sort of a little bit um but like Dave Matthews
kind of stuff. But but he became a country star.
Darius Rucker became a country star, you know the last
yeah yeah, um, but anyway, and he's great as they
also they also said a C. D C. Highway to
Hell was their song, and I was like, yes, I

(03:24):
get that question. For a road trip, that is a
good song. But don't you think that that's you know,
just the characters. I mean, they wouldn't like where they were,
they would they wouldn't like, you know, country music. I
think it reveals a Northeastern elitism, snobbishness that is a
turn off to a lot of people, which can masquerade

(03:46):
as somehow appealing. It's like appealing in some way. Oh yeah,
they're like snooty Northeasterners who hate country music. Well you know,
well that's so appealing some yeah, and some form. That's
funny because okay, watch Gilba Girls on Wednesday nights on
the w B and then watch Reba on Thursday. So

(04:11):
I think, you know, probably Lou and Bob remember, remember
they probably had something. They probably had something to say
about it. But it's like, you know, try to get
Amy to change dialogue. It's like, guys, you know, do
we want to cut out half the country here? It's
like click, Well, but the engagement was off. Now that's

(04:32):
the point of the whole episode, that engagement. Max. Are
you trying to get me off the subject? Chamee I am.
I'm like, you're done with country? There he goes. James
is directing them. That's what he does so well, I
want to get to your super pivotal scene. It's like
almost a character change for you. Like I was like,
who is this nice person? But we'll get to that.

(04:54):
I'll get there. But anyway, So so the thing that
that really stuck out to me other than why are
you trashing country music because I'm a fan of country music?
Um is it was hard. I think they won. They won,
They won the war with just the two of them together.

(05:15):
It's like I kept thinking, are they going to be
able to carry the episode because nobody else is in
the episode. We're not in stars Hollow, this is unfamiliar territory.
So how how is this going to be rectified? I mean,
this better be some pretty great stuff if we're just
going to be spending time with those two. And another
thing that I felt, um and and they did at

(05:37):
in places and I was pretty satisfied most of the way.
But another thing that I felt, I thought that fight
in the in the bed and breakfast between mother and
daughter was a little forced. I mean, it just can't
kind of came out of nowhere, you know. So for me,
it felt like it was like, oh, we need them
to have some conflict here, and they just kind of
forced it on us because it just happened so fast.

(05:58):
I mean, Laurel, I went from being and I get it.
You know, they're hungry, they haven't eaten, They're gonna be snappy.
But I mean that was that was a that was
a brutal fight. What did you think? Did you? Did
you have any kind of opinion on that? No? I
was actually intrigued by their relationship in it. I'm like
the SERTs were a nice throwback for me. That she

(06:19):
hadn't her purse, that she was gonna feed Rory, and
that they had like hair or something fuzzy on them. Um.
And so the whole like wacky Ben and Breakfast person
that had that cheshire cat was the name of the place,
and um, the Annabelle dolls in the background, you know,
those spooky dolls. I just felt like that wacky character

(06:42):
could have been out of Stars Hollow and it fits so.
And we had never met that person before. Her name
was like La Dawn or something like that. And I
felt like, you know, the relationship was snarky, as it
usually is, because you know, they got into the Bed
and Breakfast, they checked in to their room and it
was like all these flowers like Laura Ashley threw up everywhere,

(07:04):
and they made fun of it, and I get it,
and I wouldn't make fun of it too, but they,
you know, they didn't want to sleep there first, and
so the fight was like, I didn't seem that forced.
It just seemed like to me, it was it was good,
it was fine. I know you thought it was felt.
I felt it was a little forced. Yeah, it was

(07:26):
like and Rory had a good point. I mean, it's
like you're my best friend and we can talk about anything,
and all of a sudden, I want to talk about something,
you snap out on me and you know, just turn
your back on me and go to bed and scream
at me. And it's like Jesus, that's like, well, that
happens sometimes in relationships. Yeah. I think you find out

(07:48):
a lot about people and they act a little bit
different when you travel with people. I mean sometimes you
can go places and not you know, you're friends with
somebody all the time, but then when you're with them
all day, all night, and you realize, oh, I don't
I don't. I don't want to go see everything every
every few minutes. I want to do something a little
bit differently. It kind of brings out different aspects of

(08:11):
your relationship that you examine differently, you know. Yeah, all right, Scott,
that's how I That's how I felt about you when
I traveled with you. But and then I was like,
I want to do this again. I want to do
this again. Let's go, let's go Atlanta, let's go through.

(08:33):
Let's go meet your old coach at Atlanta. Yeah. Yeah,
by the way, yeah, they won the World Series, James
is like what they want what the World series ended.
Since they haven't had a World series, right, why didn't
we go to that? We should have went to that game.
Like I take you to the games that are not important.

(08:55):
I guess I don't think you can get a ticket
to the good games. They're all good games down there.
We had a great time down there. Anyway, Congrats to
Brian Snitker, the Atlanta Braves, the entire organization, Rest in peace.
Hank Karon Um, Yeah, you know, these were these were

(09:15):
people that I signed with originally, uh in and back.
I came up through their system before they traded me.
Oh my god, I will never get rid of I
will never get rid of your baseball card. It's the
cutest thing ever. Okay, but anyway, back to the episode.
Uh you also try to find Scott's baseball card. It's amazing.

(09:38):
What's it worth right now? Do you know, Scotty? Okay,
back to the episode. So Melissa McCarthy I love is
in this episode two because there's a pivotal moment about her.
Now she's making this this wedding cake that moral I says, oh,

(09:59):
don't worry about the cake, and she's like okay, and
she's actually making it and it's like four tiers high
and she names it Clyde and then she's like, you
need to tell um, you need to tell Luke for me.
So she goes to the cafe. Suki goes to the
cafe and she has to tell you the news. Now

(10:23):
you remember what the news was. It was Max and
the weddings off. But what did you do? You remember
that scene in the in the cafe at all? I don't.
I don't remember it. But um, I was relieved to
be back and Stars Hollow as a fan of the show.
Now that I'm seeing, okay, get me back to Stars Hollow,

(10:46):
I like being I like being with these two. Um.
You know, they don't want to mix with the bed
and breakfast crowd ha ha. But they were perfectly nice people,
and Rory was trapped by the young and the young
the older couple sitting down grilling her about her boyfriend
and what she's where She's going to call the whole thing.
And they were wonderful actors. They were hysterically funny. Um.

(11:10):
But again, this kind of elitism was is washing over
them where they're I don't know, they're too good to
talk to normal people. And it's like, how is that appealing?
And that's kind of through the lens. I was looking
at a throw and I know they wanted to get
out and they wanted to you know, they didn't want
to get trapped by a group of people. Would be
but it wasn't that big of a deal. You just,
you know, just be nice to people. I guess I'm

(11:32):
getting preachy. I totally get it. But so anyway, so
they so, so let's go, We're back and starts hollow.
But I like but I like the road trip part
of it. It got better for me the closer they
get to Harvard. When they finally get to Harvard, that's
when the episode started kicking in for me, because now

(11:52):
we're seeing all the dreams and the aspirations and all that.
So what I'm doing is the set up to all
that for me was problematic, and I would have had
I been a studio executive or I had been an editor,
I would have maybe said, look, can we dial back
on this, or can we edit this out or something,
because it's to protect the characters anyway, that's not my job.

(12:15):
But now I can voice my opinion. I am. I'm
gonna get a lot of emails about this. They're not
going to be terribly friendly, but that's just how I
feel about it. But I really thought that the setup
was a little bit clumsy, entertaining and funny. Sure, beautifully acted. Yeah,
but now we get to Harvard finally, right, and it's like,
now it kicks in. All the dreams and aspirations of

(12:36):
Rory's future are being breathed with all this fraction, with
all this fresh Harvard oxygen, and then all of of
lauralized potential from the past has dried up and it's
presented to her in those photos of Valde, the Valdive, Valive,
valid Valdive, Victorian ey for me to say, and those

(12:59):
moments she has looking off like what could have been?
And I'm smart, and I'm you know, I'm very bright,
and I could have done this, but now I want
this for my daughter. So those those were very compelling
moments and a lot of a lot of great moments
with you know, the moment when Rory went into the
class and started discussing stoicism with Carl What was that like?

(13:19):
Tell us about that, Carl Um, Well, what I will
tell you is that I think I was shooting this
on my birthday um, so that was kind of cool. Um.
But I do remember I was up there doing that
speech all day, like for every single take, every single shot.

(13:40):
They needed me to give that speech over and over
and over again. At least a hundred times I did
that speech. UM, so I knew it by heart. And
there was a really nice lady who was a makeup woman.
I don't remember what her name was. She had like
brown hair, she's kind of tall. She came up and
she said, you're so good, you should have your own show.

(14:00):
When I said thanks, but they never got my my
close up. I'm like waiting, I'm like giving up this.
By the way, Carl, you know I agree with her. Yes,
But they used to tell that to everybody, so they
wouldn't call that exactly if we had a director that

(14:24):
wouldn't stop doing takes, you know, they'd see if start
fading and they come up and say, you know what,
you're so good you should have your own show. You'd
perk up a little like, isn't she great? I'm kidding
you should? You should know. It worked. It worked, though,
Keep me going, keep me going. So um. But there's
an interesting thing in this this episode that I remember

(14:46):
that the other student that she's talking to the Asian
MASSI okas like it's Massy Coca from Heroes, right, So
like we had kind of be into each other because
you know, when your guest cast, the guest cast hangs out,
the main cast hangs out. So we talked and we'd

(15:06):
hang out. And then fast forward three four years. He
does Heroes and I do Heroes, and I'm like, wow,
he went from being like the last person on the
call list to like the biggest part of the whole show.
And um, but he was such a really nice guy
and really funny and um. You know that that scene

(15:29):
was really interesting to watch Alexis do because it was
really all her, you know, And I remember that day
like people were kind of like giving her space. They
were like, don't don't bother her because she kind of
had to do a lot. And um, but she was
really really nice. It wasn't that big of a scene.

(15:51):
She had a couple of lines of dialogue. It wasn't
that big of a but he did a lot of
stuff other than that within the campus because we were
at U c. L A. You know, that's where that was.
Obviously it wasn't Harvard. It was too sunny, yeah exactly,
and they didn't have the old you know, gothic uh
buildings around Yeah. Yeah, but but yeah, they shot a

(16:14):
lot of stuff that day. So because we're moving around
and I'm sure you had this all the time, you
gotta shoot it right, get it right. And I do
remember when I auditioned for this, Um, Jamie Rodowski, who
I'm actually taking classes with, she told me to said hello,
he said, h yeah, I definitely will. I remember when

(16:35):
I went in. Just before I went in, she stopped me.
She said, just talk as fast as you can. Say
as fast as you can said okay, exactly, the perfect note,
and like, great, you got it. Yeah, that's what they do. Yeah,
because it's that's different than any other show. You don't
they don't want you to say it as fast as

(16:56):
you can. So um, and that's part of the humor
of the show that just works. It's it's so cool. Well,
they've got eighty pages of black ink, which is all
dialogue to fit into what forty minutes, James, you're doing
twenty minutes of commercials right, Oh yes, yeah, so that's
forty minutes. You gotta get any pages? Yeah, yeah, so

(17:19):
you gotta talk twice as fast as anybody else on
any other show. And hey, James, has it changed in syndication.
They still have the same amount of time, same amount. Yeah,
it's not longer or shorter. Same Yes, And it's on
up TV, America's cable network. So anyway, so they so

(17:41):
they go to Harvard. They have all those great moments, right,
and we now see that Rory is capable of handling
IVY League um uh an IVY league education. She's what
she's junior now at this point, she's a soft more jr.

(18:01):
She's a junior? Is she a junior? We're gonna get
fact checked on this, Like, I'm pretty sure because that
one lane set off sent off to Korea and she
comes back in this episode. Yes, so is that? Is
she a sophomore? I think it was really early. I
think she was. I think she had two more years.
I think she's a sophomore. She's got two more year.

(18:23):
So there she is, as a sophomore at a in
a Harvard class, you know, discussing It was a philosophy
class discussing stoicism, Yeah, which I had never heard of before,
and being corrected by you, you corrected her, I did,
and and I had to, I will just say this

(18:44):
real quickly. I looked, I did. I researched that that
what that is. I wrote out the script so I
knew it back and forth. I knew who this character was,
this this man I can't even think of his name
right now, um, but back then I knew it backwards
and words. And I could have said even more if
I had to, just in case, because this was like
big deals, right, just in case you had to improv,

(19:07):
which was never gonna happen on that show, right exactly,
but it has happened on others. We were we had
a kid. We had a kid come in the diner
at one line, just some young kid. He's energetic, nice kid,
good actor, came in and he started doing a whole monologue.
He thought it was this big chance, and he did
this in rehearsal, and I tried to warn him. I said, listen,

(19:30):
you're you're a nice kid and everything, but don't do that, okay,
because they're just gonna cut it and then they're gonna
not hire you again. And it's like, don't just come
say the line, do that, And then the first take came,
he did his whole monologue again he really just you know,
he was so busting out with energy and I just said, guy,
he can't do. That's wasting time, which wastes money on set,

(19:53):
which we didn't have. We didn't have huge amounts of
money and we didn't have huge amounts of time. We
had time, but you know, the time was expensive, you know,
I mean that was when it was still filmed. Yeah, right,
working on the lot point, working on the Warner Brothers lot.
Gilmore Girls was the very last show, always to wrap
every night, like we would be doing Friends episodes that

(20:17):
sometimes went to like ten eleven PM and then drive
out like leave and you all still had camera setup
still going. Every night. Every Batman would leave, you know,
the films with the Oceans eleven would leave, we would
still be there. It's like we'd wave good bye to
Brad pet bye. We're gonna be here for another couple

(20:38):
of hours. Scott. Can I ask you, like what it
was like to have all that copy? I mean you
didn't start did you start off as an actor? What
do you mean? Did I start off? When when you
came from baseball? Did you did you always like I
want to be an actor? Oh? No, no, for me,
it was always writing. And then after baseball, I got

(21:01):
I got into I Want. I moved to New York
and studied, studies, studied and at a theater company and
the whole thing. So I was prepared, you know, I
knew how, I knew what I was doing. I was
trained and uh, somewhat professional, i'd like to say, But
the but the die, you know, the dialogue wasn't daunting
to me because I've been doing Shakespeare for several years,

(21:22):
and you know, if you can tackle that, you can
pretty much do anything. And that's what I always recommend
young actress to do, and actresses is getting naily Shakespeare
because if if you can do that, there's nothing more challenging.
Actually it's it's not even terribly challenging once you understand
the story, because there's such an emotional logic to the

(21:45):
dialogue Shakespeare's dialogue that it's easy to remember. It sticks
with you. Um, of course you have to do it
over and over and over again. But I mean, once
you've got it, you've got it. I mean, you know,
I can still recite some of those long speeches from Hamlet. Um,
it's been twenty years since I even thought about it.
So um, yeah, so yeah, that that wasn't the problem.

(22:06):
I think that's probably how I got the job. Yeah,
it is a facility with the dialogue. Because I went
in there and just sort of nailed nailed, nailed, nailed.
It was not a big deal. I think other actors
went in and they maybe struggled a little bit with
the pace and the whole thing. So for me, it
was just it wasn't that hard, you know. Anyway. Um, anyway,
so so we're back. So where are we in the episode? Now? Okay,

(22:29):
so we're we're at campus. Laura Lae is like living
her what could have been moment and she gets hit
on by like a college Oh that was hysterical. Did
you not love that? God? I thought that that was
so pithy. See that's that's Lauren Graham at her best.

(22:51):
You know, it's like she did that happened for her.
A couple of those scenes happened, like with the girls
in the hallway, you know, she did that stick, which
she was like, and then that's Laura at her best.
Rory says, mom, your your college gab comes from happy
days and Valley girls so funny, and those girls could

(23:18):
not like leave her fast. Enough. They were like, you're
just a weirdo. And then and then they go in
invade the girls empty room and say, not going there
to I want to take a picture. You're like studying
at Harvard. And she's like, she's like a robot that
won't stop. And it's just hysterical. And and and then
Rory puts her pencil up for the pictures. She goes,
what you're writing on air? You do you do in

(23:39):
the air? Oh, my gosh, I loved it. It was great. Okay,
so but meanwhile, back at Stars Hollow, Scott is serving coffee, uh,
Lucas serving coffee to our our little Sean Gunn. And
he is, uh having eight refills. I think it was

(24:00):
eight refills. And you were very upset about this. You know,
I'm in a bad mood, right, I lost my woman.
You're taking it out on poor Shawn Gunn, who's actually
giving me a lot of business. But wait a minute,
these are free refills, right. I don't think he's paying
for him. No, he's not. And news has not got

(24:23):
to you yet. The weddings off. The whole town knows,
but you don't know. I do not know. Yeah, they
rolled back in and you know, people were sort of
waving their hankies at him, and Sean says, do you
need to hug the whole deal? And then you had
your pivotal moment at least in my mind, where we
got to see a different side of you, and you
sparked up and you were like Swede and not grumpy

(24:44):
and just really happy his hat. Yeah, like oh my gosh,
and you gave him as many three cups of coffee
as he wanted. It was really nice scene. You just
like totally changed. I loved it. Like then I wanted
you with her, Like I was like, I'm all in

(25:05):
for her, and that's what I'm all about because I was.
I was a Max fan, you know, I was. You know,
I wanted her to have love. We all want we
all want love, and I wanted her to have it.
Had I known that at the time, James, when we
were traveling together, I think we would have had a problem.
Oh well, I bet we'll have a little problem after this,

(25:27):
but that's it's okay. Come on, you gotta love love.
Come on, Scottie boyd. Yeah, I do. I do. Scott
You seem like when he's giving you these compliments, you
seem just the slightest bit uncomfortable. How did you feel

(25:48):
about that scene? Well, there's another scene. There's another scene
that he's very important, and it's the hoopa on the
lawn that you build for them. And it's a beautiful wood.
Are I say it? You said hoopa? Oh again? Thank you,

(26:12):
thank you, Carl, professor um. Yes, So you build this
and you carve it and there's like goats on it
and like weird little ribbons that you carved into the
wood and it's beautiful. Well you didn't really do it,
but here's the thing. It's a beautiful, beautiful gesture. And
she comes back to tell you what. Remember, she's not

(26:35):
gonna like get rid of it. She's gonna keep it, right,
she'll because I said, all come in the morning and
move it, or I'll move it now, I'll get it
out of the yard. And yeah, I didn't move it,
and I hit myself in the head, like, oh, I'm
sorry you had to come back and see that, and
the reminder of what could have been with Max and
the whole thing. So he's being very self deprecating, I
guess at that point. So sweet, good job. Yeah, yeah,

(26:59):
it was you know, it's good writing. What can you say?
I don't know. So we just were just trying not
to screw up the lines and and not run into
the furniture, right, that's her job. Now, do you remember?
The other pivotal moment in this episode is where Lorelei
calls Suki after she makes that giant cake she names
Clyde and she and she I think she asked you, like,

(27:20):
how do you get a business loan? Right? She comes in. Yeah,
she finally comes in and there's that scene. Yeah, it's
very nice. Uh, yeah, it was. It was a nice Uh,
it was a nice tender scene between those two where
you know, the feelings are very raw and he's very
relieved and he's feeling like he's feeling lucky. You know,

(27:44):
I don't think he feels lucky a lot like he dodged.
I think it's one of those moments where he, you know,
he was he he didn't want to admit to himself
how devastated he was. But once she's back on the
mark it he's like so happy, so relieved because he's
got maybe another shot. Well, yeah, and now can you

(28:07):
please make a move? Thank you? I know it's in
the writing it's supposed to go for episodes and episodes. Well,
now that you put it that way, I think I will.
I think I will. For you, I go back and
then you get to watch them all differently. Now we'll
go back and then it'll have changed. I don't even

(28:34):
remember filming these saints. I do not remember filming this stuff.
It's like you work, you know, you work so often,
and you're working your short term memory, right, and because
you have to write, you got to clear out the
junk to be able to retain the new stuff the
next day that you don't I don't remember any of

(28:55):
this shooting, any of this stuff, and I'm watching it like,
is that really me? I? So it's it's an odd experience.
I mean it's it's kind of kind of great because
it's so far removed from what it happened that I'm
not sort of you know, I'm not so hyper critical
of it as I normally would be, but but thank
you for your kind words. It's uh, they were, you know,

(29:18):
there were all nice scenes to shoot with Lauren. They
were all tender and nice and you know, fraught with
tension and fraught with love, and it's very nice, very nice, experience. Yeah, um,
and then we how do we wrap up the episode here? Well,
she goes home and Mom is like, oh, oh god,

(29:38):
what do you have to tell me? You're showing me
all these photos on a projector I hate projector I'd
rather have him in a pile of photos or whatever
Mom was saying. And then she has to tell her
mom that the wedding's off finally too, and Mom gets
upset and Morla I only wants to know what the
gift is that Mom got her, So she's like, what

(30:00):
did you get me? Did you get me iced teaspoons?
Because teaspoons and nice teaspoons like that that fun dialogue
that always happens on the show. And I don't think
we find out what that gift is. We do not,
and I don't think we will. Well maybe we will,
but very funny scene between those two. It kept going
off camera too. It was supposed to be over and

(30:24):
then they kept going. It was great. Yeah, So Carl,
tell us about your experience, um, working on the show
and compared to other shows that you did. Tell Well,
I mean, I know you've you you've you've touched on
it lightly, but go go into it a little more

(30:45):
about the guilt being gilmour ized. Well, I will say
that this was probably my first big role, um being
on Gilmore Girls. And it was also the first time
I got to play a teacher. Yeah, because I came
from a family teacher, so it's like a big deal
that I got to actually play a teacher finally. Um.

(31:06):
But it was definitely one of those jobs where I
felt like, this is a step up because there is
a rhythm to this show. You've got to match what
they do. It's not just you come in and you
say you're your plot points. But this was actually a
dynamic working with other people and I was leaving the scene.

(31:28):
I got to leave the scene, and that was it
was really exciting for me. Um to get to do that.
And they said one I left, well, you know, she's
got to go to college, and maybe you'll get to
come back. Maybe you get to come back and lo
and behold. Two years later they did call me, so, Um,

(31:49):
I did get to go back. But that's another show
because they they said I ended up working for a
different college. Um. I was her professor and at Yale
as well. And itsbelievable you could have you know, maybe
they didn't tenure you at Harvard. Yeah, differybody said that

(32:10):
I really wouldn't happen. You wouldn't go from Harvard to Yale.
It wouldn't happen. That's what people told me. Really wouldn't happen.
But I was I was just glad that they even
thought to bring me back and do it. And um,
you know, it was It definitely felt like kind of
a family thing to be in that community of the

(32:35):
show because you guys are just working so tightly together
and it's got to work so fast. Um. It was
very cool. It was. It was really cool. Alright, alright, guys,
you're ready to play? Uh rapid Fire? Oh my god,
it's the game. I love games. Do you want to
sing a country? So? First? I love my My wedding

(33:00):
was a game show? Showed up in boots. I actually
did I've written a country song? I did. I did
write a country song. Thank you. That's what I want
to hear thinking to men. I know. Sorry, anyway, Rob

(33:48):
forgot the word. It's a new one. Maybe we should
put that song at the top of the show. No,
never mind, already have I already have a song that
I wrote and recorded as a theme song to the
podcast always producing. Oh I love that pop that that
theme song on this show, on my show, Yeah, on
this on this podcast. I love it. Yeah, that's my song.

(34:10):
Oh is that you singing? Yes, I didn't know you've
had like a tenor voice. That's I didn't wow out, Louise. Okay,

(34:31):
give me some rapid fire. What's the rapid fire? Yeah?
Give me something? Are you ready? All right? You guys,
you guys. We're gonna have to do this together with
both of you, right, so you both have answer at
the same time. Is it about this episode or just
in general? I'm not telling you anything cooking about baseball? No, no, no,
it's not about baseball. Are you ready a rabid fire?

(34:55):
You have to answer these questions as fast as you
possibly can. Ready, here we go. How do you take
your coffee? Oh green? Can you smell snow? I say no,
I can smell, not spellin. I can't hear smell snow snow?

(35:22):
Are you team Logan? Jesser Deane quickly? Quickly, Jess, Jess, Jess,
Jess Kevin best, who's the daddy you are? Best memory
of Gilmore girls. I'll go with that question. I'll go

(35:44):
with that answer too, you have an adorable son and
he liked the Olivia the Pig? Am I wrong? The
best memory of Gilmore Girls? Best memory of Gilmore Girls?
I do have an adorable son who's who like and
he likes Olivia the Pig. Who's Olivia of the Pig? Oh,

(36:06):
that's a. It's a. It's a. It's a book with
the little girl who is the little girl pig? And
she likes to sing. He reads like three books a day. Now.
Well he's just like, it's like, what's yeah, he's yeah,
he's got that in his collection. He does. I told
him he wants to go to m I T So.
I said, he's seven. You can't go to m I

(36:30):
T at seven? Is a young Sheldon or something? Another
WB plug There, ladies, what's your best memory? If gil
More Girls A time traveling with you? Mine mine too?
With you with you? Go ahead? Uh? My best memory

(36:52):
is watching those two work together. Watch Jing Alexis and
Laura went together. It really felt like my daughter. It's
it's impressive. Yeah. Yeah. In fact, that's that's when I
first got to Toronto to film my stuff for the pilot.
Um I got. I got to the set a little
early and I've said this before, but I'll say it

(37:13):
to you. I saw those two rehearsing a scene in
the diner before I went into hair and makeup, and
I thought, boy, this is gonna work. This is where
this show is really gonna work. If these if these
two were carrying it, Yes, this is gonna work. Um,
and Alexis was so young at the time, right, she
was just like, yeah she was. She was a freshman

(37:36):
at n y U. I'm sorry, yeah she was. She
a freshman at Tish School. I think she was in
film school or something. I don't know. Um, show you're
binge watching right now, murders and the murders in the
how murders in the building. Okay, I'm succession. Oh Brian Cox, Yeah, yeah,

(37:57):
I'm enjoying the banter between the family. An old friend,
Brian brilliant actor. He was. There's a film he did
a long time ago, Scottish film called hid an Agenda
where he was just marvelous. Um, he's good and everything. Uh.
Cast member you texted most recently from Gilmore Girls cast

(38:18):
member Yes, kick again. Yeah. I had to text her
because she's hosting with Um Todd r The up TV
Gilmore than Mary or Binja thon again, I'm out of
a job. No, you did it for three years and

(38:39):
you'll be back again, you know. Bill. Bill just texted
me up TV. Yeah, but he's not there anymore. Yeah.
I worked with a new crew, but I enjoyed them
very much. Yeah, there's great people there anyway. Um, they
love your show. By the way, they are Gilmore Girls

(39:03):
all the way. You know. They air four episode tonight.
Is that all just four? Four? That's back to back,
right four. Well, maybe we'll maybe we'll do a podcast
with him, you know, maybe we should do a podcast.
You might do a whole thing, all right. Um, I
was gonna say my text. I texted Jamie. She's a

(39:24):
casting Jami Rodowski. Yeah, yeah, okay, Jamie. Jamie came on
with Mara to cast the show two on. Yeah. One
word to describe Gilmore Girls uplifting, clever, clever and uplifting.
There you go. Are you familiar with the creepy clown pillow?

(39:44):
Am I familiar with a creepy clown? Obviously neither of you,
two gentlemen, you too fine gentlemen, or not familiar with
the creepy clown pillow? Nor was I and I don't
know if I want to be familiar with it. It's
just a thing. And what is lauryalized house? In the couch,
there's a clown pillow that they keep moving around and

(40:05):
it's you know, the fans get a kick out of
spotting it. And now we're kind of finding it in
a lot of episodes and it's in different positions and
it's kind of a fun. Yeah, I was, I was
at Harvard. I don't know. I don't know of such
silly pillow games. I don't remember the like you individuals.

(40:25):
I did go with Penny Wise for Halloween. Oh did
you Yeah, they hit clown? Where did you go? Did
you go to a Warner Brothers party? No? No, no,
the children come to the house and you scared them.
Oh you were doing that whole bit. Yeah, they want
the candy. They come, they come to the porch, and
you give them the candy as right. I understand the ritual.
I did it too. Halloween. Oh it's the Halloween Halloween

(40:52):
die hand out turkey legs. On Thanksgiving, I'm sitting there
waiting like an idiot. Um nobody comes. No, Like I was,
I was Morpheus from h and I had a white
bag that had a blue pillow on the front or
a red pill They had to pick which bag they
wanted to candy from. Oh my gosh for the movie Yeah, um,

(41:16):
what did your son come at scott for Halloween? Uh? Nick?
When as the ghost from Scream, he had a regular
ghost mask and he had a mask, the same ghost
mask that you could make bleed oh in the face,
like in the face. It had a tube and a

(41:36):
bladder for fake blood, and he squeezed it. And so
you know, I was Johnny food poisoning at that point.
And and what happened here on the screen there's the
clown pillow. That's the clown East that is creepy. That
Penny okay, you're Amy Sugarman is showing picture with a

(42:02):
clown pillow in the background, and it looks like Pennywise, Yes,
like Pennywise being cute, not Runnywise being core. But anyway,
so I was I was left home alone with my
recovering from from my food poisoning and answering the door
and giving people candy, Like how did you get food
poisoning or did you already talk about that on a

(42:23):
different episode? Bad? I had a bad head inexpired turkey slice.
Oh long, it's not good. Yeah, it wasn't good. Uh.
And then and so Nick one, uh, who got scariest
costume at the you know, they went and trick or treated,

(42:43):
and that they had had this big stage set up
and an auditorium and they had contests and the whole
thing after the trick or treat is a big event.
And so my wife's sending me this video of Nick
going up on stage and talking and being scary and
his costume and other kids going up doing stuff and saying,
what's going on with us? Anyone trick or treating? And uh?
And then she sent another video where he's like receiving

(43:04):
a golden statue. He's like, they've got this huge trophy
for scariest costume and everybody applauding him. He came out,
he wouldn't let go of it, and he went to
sleep with it. So, yeah, the scream costume with blood
dripping on a seven year old is pretty dark scared exactly.
So I was gonna say, seven years old and you
got you got the animatronics or you got moving things.

(43:25):
But he really owned it. He like, he went up
on stage during the competition and he was like he
got into a scary position. He it's like like a
ghost with scream right, all right, so he won. Uh
but he hasn't seen it, right, he's never seen No, no, no, no,
not yet. I mean it is coming out in theaters
another version to do what they're gonna do a reboot. Yeah, yeah, God,

(43:49):
nobody's doing that. It's amazing. They they're the first ones.
I forgot to mention. My penny Wise was a Pennywise
and drag, so she had long her six inch heels.
He was crazy, so the children were a little confused.

(44:12):
You you've won your share of Halloween costumes in the
past at Warner Brothers. Yes, there's a Halloween party and
I like to participate. So I like to dress up
different every year, and it's usually a Warner Brothers character
that you go as. Oh, I should have win as Luke.
One year. I saw a lot of people on your Instagram,

(44:32):
h Scott like went as you and that was awesome.
We have a contest every year, so it's they're dressing
up their dogs, their little kids. It's very cute and
a lot of people participate. We give them free coffee.
But you know, we picked ten winners and send him
some free coffee. It's it's really scotty, some Scotty peas,
big mon Scott, big coffee buddy, Yes, which I get

(44:55):
from my daughter, but you got her fifteen and she's
all into coffee. Right now, I think we'll go. We're
gonna probably send you a bag because you're you're on
the show of that. James, how many bags I sent
you with the whole lineup, didn't I yeah, we didn't.
You get a whole boatload. You got a whole boatload. Yes.
And then remember, like after the first year, we changed
it and added that that ingredient that helps you go

(45:17):
potty better what you told me that we were at
the secret that was a secret. You're saying, what are
you talking about? No, it doesn't help you go potty better.
The cascara, Yeah, that's it. Yes, I'm telling you it

(45:45):
helps you. Got it does? Yes? Well, I mean it's
it's fiber. Yeah, I mean, it's like it's nutrients and fiber.
It's it's it's the it's the the fruit that grows
around the coffee bean on the tree that you really
discarded and we grind it up and added to breakfast
plen and house plot and it's full of nutrients and

(46:06):
iron and great stuff fiber. The phrasing was, it was funny.
Didn't you add that stuff to it that makes you
go potty? The name of it. I knew I was

(46:30):
going to have fun today. Oh good, we had a
lot of fun too. Thank you for inviting us. That
was so nice of you. And Amy Sugarman. Huh don't
you love her? God? What a ball club? Yeah, she
lit up. She lit up like a Christmas tree when
I when I mentioned your name, by the way she did. Yeah. Well,

(46:51):
Amy Sugarman and I go back to our Gilmore days
because she was around um working on radio, and I
would have to call her to get you booked on
Ryan Secrest show. So that's how the marketing all works.
We're still good friends and and anything that she wants

(47:15):
we will will always do for you. You're the best, buddy,
You're absolutely the best. Um. Anyway, guys, thank you so much.
Pleasure meeting you. Carl, Thank you, see you guys, see
you by bye, Carl, Bye James. Yeah, okay, everybody, we're back.

(47:37):
Wasn't that fun? James and Carl fantastic conversation with those
two gentlemen. Uh, and we're gonna we're gonna chop it
up a little more with the ladies here, Daniel Romo,
Riley Pelucis, Amy Sugarman, who I believe a little bit up.
She's very fired up. I think she's got some hair

(47:59):
treatment going on or something. My camera. I don't know
my camera on because I have hair color in hair,
but there's hair color. I love James. I love James Pettitt.
I've known him as long as you have, like over
twenty years. But I disagree, Scott. I agree with you
that I thought the Rory lor Life fight in the

(48:22):
Flowery bed and Breakfast bedroom was random. It was so aggressive,
and I get it because loora Lie is upset and
doesn't want to talk about it, but it was almost
like she was mad at Rory. It was like, so
I wanted to have a little bit of a conversation.
I understand why James liked it because it was a

(48:45):
fun sort of scene to watch, but it was really aggressive,
like Lorlie was so mad at Rory, and when she
could have just said I'm still having such a hard
time with this, I don't want to talk about it,
but she was so angry. I think you make a
choice as an actor, right you. You you live the

(49:05):
given circumstances of the piece of the material that's handed
to you, and you analyze it and you make your
choices based on that. And I think I think that's
a situation where maybe Laurence said if she wasn't given
the direction to do that, And I think I think
there's also another reason. Okay, there's a couple of reasons.

(49:25):
Maybe Laurence said, Okay, we haven't eaten. Uh. That can
have adverse effects on personality and temper that kind of thing.
So yeah, I'm going to justify the snap. Okay. So okay,
so that's one category. Okay, that can happen, and it's
happened to me when I'm starving, man, And you know,

(49:46):
when you when you get angry, that might be angry
right there. Okay, that might be a clearly beautifully portrayed
uh angry alone. It just flips on you in an instant.
You don't want to talk about it and turn out
damn light. I'm going to bed by um. It also
could be a hangry thing, an a tired thing for

(50:12):
Lauren in the moment when there's too many takes being
asked to do. It's repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat, and
then you can get frustrated. And I've been there too,
um and I think I've made some choices based on that,
and it's sort of you try not to let it
influence you, but you you know, if you start feeling
manipulated by the director and it's like too many takes

(50:32):
and it's like, yes, okay, what do you need, and
it's like I've kind of given you everything I have.
And maybe she was in a situation where she the
director was asking too much of her, asking her to
repeat herself too many times, and she just got pissed.
It's possible. I don't know. I don't know. Writing was aggressive,
so it was like it was meant for her to
be kind of mad. You can interpret that's interesting. You

(50:58):
can interpret that any way you want. You could interpret
it with with loving, gentle care, quiet, you can pop
at it, you can go you know wild, there's million
different directions you can go with it. If if the
director wants a fight, they're going to have to give
him a fight, you know what I mean. If if
that's the direction, So I don't know, you know, it's
it's like Yeah, Rory stayed calm. She was much relaxed

(51:22):
or loving or calm about it, and really was seemed
to be coming from a place of like, this is
a huge thing, and I think we should talk about it,
like you're just ignoring it or pretending it didn't happen,
or like, I agree that the scene was important, but

(51:43):
it was weird, like it was like but I remember
just watching it and writing down WHOA that was like
their biggest fight ever and Rory didn't even do anything.
I don't think it needed the anger. Yeah, I agree
to get the point of the seeing You get she's devastated.
You get that she's in a in a confused place.

(52:05):
She that she's conflicted about walking away from Max and
all that more life's going to go and that kind
of a thing. But I know, loreal Ize seemed less
angry at r Rory when she fell asleep at Miss
Patty's with Dean and didn't come home. She was so
mad at her when it was like all she's trying
to do is sort of talk to you. And then
the next morning, I think Rory says something like hey

(52:27):
about last night, and loyal lies like we're good, and
I remember going we're not good. Yeah, why it's like,
you know, there needs to be an apology there. Yes,
I thought so too. I was like, whoa. So I
just thought that was interesting, not that I didn't like it,

(52:48):
but I agreed with you, like, it's interesting to see
how James was watching it and it didn't he just
kind of enjoy that as a part of it. Well,
he does work at Warner Brothers. He's a tough dude.
He's got a thicker skin than we do. Maybe we're
just too sensitive for this type of work. Who knows.
I have been accused of that before. I liked the

(53:09):
antics of the Bed and Breakfast and how weird it was,
and that was the amazing Susan Ruttan playing the older
lady talking to Rory, who I love from l A Law.
So I liked all that and you know, just the
weird like bed and Breakfast lady. But I agree that
scene in the bedroom was oddly crazy. I thought you

(53:33):
got it right. Yeah, if it wasn't this, I mean,
if I'm directing that episode, I'm taking that scene in
a different direction. I agree. I was like, whoa. Now
I wasn't as bothered by I love country music I
wasn't as bothered by them kind of mocking country music.
But James made a great point that they're supposed to

(53:54):
be listening to this radio station only as country music
and then they're playing Hoodie in the Blowfish Like that
was always a little like random, But I agree. I
totally got what you were saying. It's like, why did
they just rip on country music? Yeah, I don't understand.
I mean it was like, I think you kind of
nailed it, like they're from this East Coast town. But
that's that's the mentality, you know, that's people rip on

(54:17):
country music in the Northeast. Now not so much because
it's you know, it's it's really it's really become you know,
it's changed. Three. I didn't know if we were looking
at it through the lens of today, whereas opposed to
twenty years ago, people would more make fun of country music.
I mean more like thirty years ago, I would say

(54:37):
four years ago, where it was like I lost my
girlfriend and my dog, ate my whatever, you know what
I mean. But it's not like that everybody you know,
living in the big cities making fun of country folks,
and now everybody in the big cities are pouring into
the country desperate to get out of the big cities.
I guess they're not making fun of them anymore. Yeah,

(54:59):
and I do think, you know, I know, we have
to we've got to get to pop culture. But I
do think that scene between you and Lauren was so
I loved it, Like you, you were amazing. They really
are bonding, and it was the first time maybe not
the first time, but one of the times where Luke

(55:19):
really is the boyfriend. You go to the boyfriend to
ask about his advice about opening your own business and
wanting his support, and you were really there to help her,
and you're like, hey, let's find some time and we'll
really talk about this. And it was like such the
conversation that a married couple would happen, and you were
like wow. And again, I guess the best way to

(55:41):
say it is like Luke is always taking care of her.
He's always there for her, and she allows it, unlike Max,
who she was like you have no role here, Like
Luke has a role. Yeah. I'm now beginning to see
the scope of this relationship in the and the and
the and the importance it has in the show. Even

(56:04):
though you don't see me a lot. Um, it's it's
it's one of the pillars. I would say, um um,
I'm I don't know. I just I just feel really
lucky to have gotten that role. And the more the
more episodes I watched on the point, did I get
lucky this role? You know? I know I fell in,

(56:29):
I really fell into something. Yeah, Okay, everybody, it's Scott Patter.
They know who I am at this point, so I
don't have to keep saying that throughout the whole thing.
We did. We did get the memo from the fans like,
shut up, I'm not gonna say it every like I

(56:52):
say like eight times that Scott please stop doing that editing.
We're not editing. M so good. They know what they're doing.
The fans know. We try to get the fans what
they want. I was about to launch into that. I
just need to do it once, that's what. No, just

(57:13):
at the top of the show and the show. I
don't need to do it eight times in between. We
got the memo thank you fans, we love you. You
barely need to do it once because they clicked on
the podcast so they know. But but but but it's
I like doing it. It's fine. It's just like it's
fun to do it. You can remind people. I feel

(57:34):
like Ed McMahon and Johnny carsonal rolled into the one
and here's Johnny. You know this kind of thing. I
don't know. It's fine, do it again, right now, do it.
I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it.
I'm not doing it. Are you going to introduce Ley
Scott Patterson? This is the Aisland. I can't even say

(57:57):
it anyway. You know who I'm channeling for that Seacrest
channeling Seacrest with his American idol trumpeting, and this is
your American idol, this kind of thing. He always is

(58:18):
so good. He always made it very exciting to watch,
even more exciting to watch the show. Anyway. This is
so off the point, very smooth, very smooth, very smooth.
Cat Alright, So, Riley, you're gonna bring us into pop culture.
I am, and I Riley has. She's becoming so big now.
She's like really blowing up and achieving the superstar status

(58:41):
that we have nurtured her for. And let me tell
you something. We we scouted her years ago, we brought
her up through our farm system, and she's really performing
at the big league level. She's just dropping knowledge, dropping knowledge.
It's amazing. That's who was watching me. Oh yeah, that's
what's watching the whole what No, all all the physicians

(59:05):
were wrong. You're alright, good people, Let's do it. The
people are waiting, you know, no, they're waiting. We're going
to do it. Riley, you're on Hello, I'm going off
with Scott's Q. I'm Riley, and this is your pop
culture First. We have Laura, Lee and Rory are driving

(59:25):
and Lorea Lie needs her tunes. Lor Lie says, never
been in this car for any extended period of time
without playing A C d C. I need my Highway
to Hell Radio says, coming up a three way song
super set from Hoodie and the Blowfish. A C d
C is an Australian rock band formed in Sydney by
Scottish born brothers Malcolm and Angus Young. In November two

(59:47):
thousand nine, A c d C were announced as the
Business Review weekly top Australian earner and entertainment. They ranked
raked in a Sweet a hundred and five million for
the financial year and knocked The Wiggles from their number
one spot. You imagine get your voice that high that no,
but are you more of a highway to Hell or
a back in black? All of it? All of it?

(01:00:09):
I mean, see, just like you can't get enough of it?
But then I'm not gonna what body in the Blowfish?
I'm more Hooty and the Blowfish, not gonna lie. Okay,
go ahead, Riley, go ahead. Hooty and the Blowfish and
his American rock band that was formed in Columbia, South Carolina.
Six The band went on hiatus in two thousand until

(01:00:31):
the announced plans for a full reunion tour in two
thousand nineteen. Lead singer Darius Rucker. I love Darius Rucker
is a very successful solo country artist with hits like
wagon Wheel and Alright. Very successful, very successful country artist.
Country music rules. It is the biggest. It's the biggest category,

(01:00:51):
has the biggest listener base of all categories in music. Huge.
You guys, remember in Jerry McGuire when Cuba getting Junior
is walking through the airport and the kid says, are
you Hooty? You're too young for Jerry McGuire, Do you

(01:01:15):
guys not know Jerry McGuire pounds? Wait, yes, you guys, dude,
go watch Jerry McGuire, Are you hooty? Is Jerry mcguiree
where you had me at Yes? You had me at Hello?
Is that the one? And then show me the money?
Show me the money? And you had me at Hello? Yeah?

(01:01:36):
I saw that you had me at Hello? Is really
the I am all in of Jerry McGuire? Do you
see do you feel me? There? On the on the
on the romantic side, see it had it had a
line for the men, and had a line for the women.
Show me the money is for the guys. You had
me at was for the women. Show me do you

(01:01:59):
do it? Girl? You man? You did that? Sorry? Sorry,
so sorry. I wake up and say the same thing
every morning. So it's fine. You had me at Hello?
No showing me? Who says it's the Beaches delivery guy.
You had me at Hello? Laura Lie and Rory stopped
to get food while on the road. Laura I says
she would make her imaginary tour bus at Hayden stop

(01:02:22):
at Hayden's nuthouse every time. Rory says, wow, you're behind
the music is going to be really wild. Behind the
Music is a documentary television series on v h one.
Each episode profiles and interviews of popular music group and
on the series, mc hammer famously detailed how he squandered
his fortune on bad investments and overspending, leaving the rapper

(01:02:42):
bankrupt and abandoned by his so called friends. Too many
houses and too many, too much of an entourage. Oh god,
what are they actually They actually pay those people, They
put them all on the payroll. You start putting your
friends like you'll be my security, you will be my driver,
you'll be my list. And then all of a sudden

(01:03:04):
you're broke because they, because they count, say you got
to create deduction, So bring your friends on. Pay them.
We can deduct everything. But then it becomes like too much.
Then you try to fire people counting or much as
the friends saying like hey to legit, to quit, give me,
give me a job. And they're doing such a good
job because he's you know, want to help your friends.

(01:03:26):
You want to help your friends, then you can get
you know, how you help your friends, You teach them
how to help themselves. You teach them how to fish.
You don't give them a fish, you know what I mean?
Flora I says she knows someone that owns up being
being portsmouth. Rory says a cool B and B Loora.
I says yes. Rory says, that's like saying an understated

(01:03:47):
Nicholas Cage movie. Nicolas Cage an American actor and filmmaker.
Nicholas has been in movies from Fast Times, Original High,
Gone in Sixty Seconds, Match, Thick Men, and National Treasure
and all are over the top, Riley, Riley, I'm sorry
to interrupt, but you've missed the best Nicholas Cage movies.
The Rock Han Air, like I don't even the Rock.

(01:04:09):
He was hysterical and that was it was hysterical he was.
And Honeymoon in Vegas. Did you mention honeymoon in Vegas? Huh? Hello?
Can we get Riley? Come on, I just focus on
National Trader in Vegas? Is not his oscar? He got No,
he got it for leaving Las Vegas. No, is that

(01:04:32):
I was called is an alcoholic? Yeah, Elizabeth Shoe right,
so much Vegas. He didn't that he didn't have to act.
It's like I'll be here on a lounger by the pool, hungover,
just filmed me. Cage shared with the reporters that he
once was victimized by someone who had broken into his

(01:04:53):
Orange County home. He says, I opened my eyes and
there was a naked man wearing my leather jacket eating
a flegetacle at the front of my bed. Very well,
you know, I have an alibi for that night. You
know a lot of people say I look like him,
like thirty years ago. Thirty years ago, people flowed I

(01:05:14):
was him all the time. Yeah, yeah, it was either
it was NICKI I got Nick Cage all the time,
all the time. Not while we maybe we were kind
of the same profile Rock. I can't do with Sean Connery.
Can you do with Sean Connery? Riley, Welcome to Sean Connery,
Welcome to the Rock. The Laurea Lion Rary and the

(01:05:40):
flower filled room at the BnB and Laurel I says, okay,
I think we just found the first room in the
history of the world that would have made Liberati say,
whoa step back? No, one's that game. Well, the flowers
were moving with the tinfoil. Liberaci was an American pianist, singer,
and actor. Liberaci's house had a music theme, musical notes
on the iron fence, musical staff above the front door,

(01:06:01):
and his famed piano shape swimming pool. During a Pittsburgh
show in the late nineteen sixty three, Liberacci was rushed
the emergency room from after collapsing his costume, which he
had cleaned himself with carbon tetra chloride prior to the show,
leached the chemicals into his skins. I know and Michael
Douglas portrayed Liberacci at Night and in two thousand thirteen

(01:06:23):
Behind the Candelabra, also starring Matt Damon and I missed
that one didn't is excellent, It's really good. Laura Line
Rory are fighting about the engagement, and Laura Lie says, Rory,
stop it. We're not going to have this fight in
a flowery bedroom with denticy Gypsy's, tramps and thieves in
the background. It's to David Lynch. David Keith Lynch is

(01:06:45):
an American filmmaker, painter, visual artist, musician and writer. He
always buttons the top button of shirt because he feels
too vulnerable with the top button open. He had lunch
every day at Bob's Big Boy in Los Angeles for
seven years, ordering a chocolate milkshake and up to seven
cups of coffee with sugar. Wasn't there a Bob's Big Boy, right?
Near where you shot Gilmore Girls. Yes, Danielle, isn't that

(01:07:09):
a Bob's big Yeah? Yeah, with a sweet drive through.
It's sort of like a drive up. It's pretty rad.
Lorela has just gone on and on pretending to be
a fellow student in the campus hallways of Harvard. Rory says,
you do realize that all of your college kids. Jargon
comes from Happy Days. Happy Days in American sitcom television

(01:07:31):
series that aired on the ABC Network spanning eleven seasons.
We had the iconic Marion Ross on this podcast. Marian
played Marion Cunningham on Happy Days and tricks on Gilmore Girls,
and currently Henry Winkler's auctioning off his iconic Fawn's charity
jacket for charity. Not easy for me to say, apparently

(01:07:52):
an impression of the fawns A nice. That's good because
I didn't know. I didn't know how to do it.
That was good. Hey, you gotta pump it up a
little bit. That's why I didn't get the job. Hey,

(01:08:18):
it's not an old guy in Coney Island. What's wrong
with you? That's not Riley. Don't forget Johnny loves Joni
loves Chogy Laurel I is reading the famous people who
have attended Harvard, and Laurel I says, oh cool. Fred
Gwynn Roy says, who Laura says Herman Munster. Now I'm impressed.

(01:08:41):
Fred was American actor, artist, and author. He was best
known for his roles in the nineteen sixties television sitcom
Car fifty four, Where Are You as Francis Muldoon and
as Herman Munster and the Munsters. The Munsters first air
nineteen sixty four. It was produced by the creators of
Leave It to Beaver. The series was a satire of
American slipper been life, and Fred's Herman Munster costume was

(01:09:03):
brutally hot. It was essential to keep him cool, not
only for his health, but to keep his makeup from
melting town meetings. Huh So he had a town meeting
every day at work? That guy inside his costume. Wait
a minute, that could be misconstrued. I didn't you know anyway. No,
I'm just saying he must have been really hot. Yes,
thank you, Lane explains she was in the Lane explained

(01:09:27):
she was in bootleg, Heaven and Korea. Lane says, well,
I strapped into my body like in midnight Express. Midnight
Express is a ninety eight prison drama film directed by
Alan Parker. The cast includes stars John Hurt and Randy Quaid.
This is This was Sir John Hurt's only movie that
he did without first reading the script, and Randy Quaid
went a little astray and was charged in two thousand

(01:09:49):
nine for allegedly defrauding and keeper in Santa Barbara. Oh Random,
I didn't know Randy Quade was in Midnight Express. I
love him an Independence Day but and Laura Li said
she's going out. While Rory sits in Normald Blexture at Harvard,
Laura Li says, Hey, I'm gonna go find the ladies room,

(01:10:09):
you know, sneak of smoke, see if anybody slipped in
aspirin and my coke. Rory says, Okay, Rizzo, I'd like
to stay here and listen a little bit more. This
is referring to Rizzo from Greece. Grease nineteen seventy American
musical romantic comy film based in nineteen seventy one musical.
The title Grease was away for the creators to pay
homage to the nineteen fifties and the air greasy hair,

(01:10:30):
Greasy Engines and greasy food. The character Rizzo is played
by Stockard Channing, and instead of using makeup, Jeff Conaway
Knicky insisted on giving Stalkard Channing Rizzo real hickies. And
he did remember a hickey from KNICKI is like a
Hallmark card. Will Smith just professed his love for Stalkard.
He fell in love with her on the set of

(01:10:53):
Six Degrees of Separation. Yes, and I was gonna say,
can you name Stockard Channing's iconic character on The West Wing?
We name the character name? I mean, or just who
she played? The first Lady. She was the first lady.
She was so amazing, first lady doing what married to

(01:11:14):
Martin Sheen's President party. You've never seen The West Wing.
I'm not a big consumer of television. You would love
The West Wing. I don't like a watch. Watch give
The West Wing a try because it's like a movie
a week. It's so good. You would love it. I'm
gonna check it out for you. I'm gonna check it out,
watch the pilot and get back to me because it's

(01:11:37):
like probably the best television show in the history of
its time, really top ten for sure, better than Billions. Yep.
It is. I can't say that it's better than Gilmore Girls,
but it is top ten, can't be it is watching Wow.

(01:12:00):
Where can I get it? Where? Where can I get it?
To my local grocery store? Yeah, or anywhere you stream television.
I think it's Netflix. It's on Netflix. Rummage around some
discount bins, see if I can pick up a couple
of episodes. I think it's also a Warner Brother's show,
just like you More Girls. They must have being it
right near you. Maybe your local blockbuster. Yeah, go to blockbust,

(01:12:25):
Go to Blockbuster, you get something. Dan, you're very silent today.
What's up? You're just you're over there because like Riley's reading,
you're playing guitar, and I'm just here, are you losing
your mind? You're losing your mind? It's so it's so good,
but I can't. I feel like I'm like I don't

(01:12:47):
even know where I entered. It's like a okay, so
like it's like a band freestyle and it's like some
Riley's Miles Davis and we're like, you know, I'm a
trumpet player, name he's a bassoon and or on whatever.
I'm not sure it's as good as that Scott, but

(01:13:08):
I don't know ya. Come on, they play the spoone
or something. You can play the spone speaking French, speaking
of French accent in place the spoone ahead, Riley, could
you give us a John Trable to impression? I think
I can, Sandy Sun nice. You're nail and stuff, just

(01:13:40):
nail and stuff. You know, some people are given talents, yes,
some people are. Some people aren't. Some people are robbed
of their talents and they're given to other people like Riley,
and some people robbed of their voice on certain days,
like Danielle, what's going on? Danielle? Say something? Say something?

(01:14:03):
Interject Danielle, do you have a Grease impression? You could do?
Come on something screeching car, tire something you give a
falzy impression? Something dead? Air is not good? All right,
we'll come back to you. You do talk about it

(01:14:24):
stead is that that's the nice? Tell me about it,
tell me about yeah, but can you do it for real?
Tell me about it's dead? Oh? I got the thumbs
up from Riley. I didn't think up. Go watch Grease.
Try it again. You have to like, slow it down,
tell me about it, stud tell me about it. Stuff.

(01:14:51):
There's no, tell me abo, tell me about it. That's
it for pop culture. Yeah. So my favorite line was

(01:15:11):
from Ladawn, the Cookie bed and breakfast owner, and she
says the whole thing with the bell just cracked me up.
I'm not usually sitting here when guests arrived, so people
ring the bell, and they loved to ring the bell.
And you didn't get to ring the bell. I like,
I am a grown woman. This was actually during the fight,
says the woman with a Hello kitty waffle iron Um.

(01:15:37):
I guess there's a lot of them, but it was
for me. It was just one word that Laurel I
said to the college student that was hitting on her.
The very last thing she said to him was getchi
or gichi and that is a term what is that
a term from the fifties or something like. That's a
term from happy days And it was so out of

(01:15:58):
whack with to the back then even uh with two thousand,
two thousand one. It was just I got a good
chuckolate that one. Okay. And my favorite line is from
Suki yet again, and it was when she said you
were a good cake, Clyde. I never should have named
you the poor cake was so beautiful. Cake she just

(01:16:21):
gave the piece away. It was so sad. She started
chopping from the bottom, and I was worried it was
the whole thing was going to topple over. I there
was anxiety created there because I thought, just cut from
the top, take a slice from well, what do I know.
I don't know anything about building wedding cakes. It's dressed
me out too. But then I was like, the probably

(01:16:41):
every other layer's fake. So she had to cut the bottom.
Oh that is an excellent point. Is that what they
do well on wedding cakes? The ones that are really
tall sometimes, like the very top ones are just like styrofoam. Yeah.
Can you imagine paying a thousand bucks for a cake
and you bite into star in controversy. No Michelle in

(01:17:03):
this episode, right, Oh yeah, that's so weird. It was
missing a Michelle. It was miss missing Michelle comedy. Great
episode though, great episode, I mean it had it. It
had its moments for me where I wasn't so thrilled.
But I kept saying to myself in the beginning, Man,
you cannot take this show out of stars hollow. This

(01:17:25):
is gonna be a tough sledding here. If it's just
going to be these two carrying this. But that did
not bother me as bothered you. But no in the beginning.
But I thought they did very well. They brought it
around and it turned out to be great. You know, Yeah,
you didn't mind Harvard. No. I loved all the Harvard stuff,
loved it all, loved it all. I loved it all.

(01:17:47):
Other than I will I'm very curious what everyone listening
thinks if we got it right about that argument, or
if James got it right. So that's really interesting. They're gonna,
they're gonna, they're just gonna pilary us. They're gonna gonna,
We're gonna get We're gonna get lamb based in for this.
We're gonna all get on our sleds and sled away here. Uh.

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