February 8, 2024 • 20 mins
He’s the one who ousted Paris as the Editor at Yale Daily News!! Devon Michaels, aka Bill, joins us to chat how he got the gig four years after auditioning for the role.
Plus, Devon ACTUALLY attended Yale and shares if Gilmore Girls portrayed the school accurately.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I Am all In.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
I Am all in with Scott Patterson, an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Hey Everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all In podcast, one
on one interview, one eleven productions. iHeartRadio, iHeart Podcasts, iHeartMedia.
Devin Michaels is joining us. Here are some Gilmore facts.
He portrayed Bill for nine episodes of Gilmore Girls. That's
a pretty good haul. Bill was a Yale Daily News
student who eventually succeeded after Rory as editor in chief.
(00:45):
He grew up in New York City doing theater. He
debut on Broadway at age twelve, and I went on
to perform several prominent off Broadway venues. He also graduated
Yale University with a degree in Theater studies and psychology
as Television appearances include Fraser, The West Wing, The Division,
Monk Without a Trace, House Numbers, and more recently, you
(01:08):
can catch them on The Rookie and Race and Frankie.
Let's bring him in, Devin Michaels, Devin, thanks for coming on.
First off, how'd you get the role on Gilmore Girls?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Well, you know, I had gotten brought in years earlier.
I think it was still season one for just a
general interview with Jamie Rodowski and Mara Casey, and they
kept saying, you know, faster, and this was, you know,
before I really understood what that what that meant. And
(01:43):
I did it, you know, my little New York theater
experience growing up. I did it like ten percent faster,
twelve percent faster, and it kept they kept saying faster, faster,
and didn't hear from them for four and a half years.
So I figured, you know, okay, I did not go
(02:04):
fast enough. I had no idea what I was doing
for this particular show, and I didn't think i'd ever
hear from them again, and out of the blue, just
got brought in to read for Bill, and I thought
it was I wasn't sure at first, you know, that
(02:26):
it was going to be a recurring that that wasn't
clear in the beginning. It was just Asian brought me
in for, you know, for this guest star role. And
I found out later that that not only was a
recurring role, but that.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
It was based loosely.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
On one of the writers of the show that that
they that I reminded them of. And so it ended
up I just had to not completely suck in the audition.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
So you actually attended Yale University and you graduated from
the theater program very maybe the most prestigious theater program
in the United States other than Juilliard or I think
Northwestern is up there, but I don't, you know, I
think Juilliard, I'm sorry, Yale REP is just right up there.
Or theater program. Now you you studied, uh is Bobby
(03:23):
Lewis still a prominent name up there, and I I
think he built that program. It's a three year program,
is it not?
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Well?
Speaker 3 (03:34):
I did not actually do Yale Drama School for undergrad gotcha.
I did major in theater studies and psychology with a
philosophy concentration that uh, there was some overlap.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Of course. I had had some some.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Some connection to the drama school because it was right there,
and did let some of the undergrad theater majors.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
You know, talk to them once in a while. So
it wasn't you know, complete silos.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
But but no, I'm not familiar with the full you know,
the full drama school program.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
So you grew up in New York City. How did
you get to Yale? What kind of grades did you
need to have to get into Yale?
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I did have very good grades probably you know, not
unlike Bill, but I did. I was a kid actor.
I started acting when I was eleven years old. I
went to this theater camp stage door manor you might
have heard of a lot of other.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
You know, a lot of other people in LA have
gone there.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
And the directors of the camp who were fantastic, Jack
Romano and the other people there that they thought I
was really good and they introduced me to their agent
friends in New York at the time, and I just
started going out on auditions right away, and I ended
up booking a Broadway show. And thought, that's the way
(05:08):
that acting is. You just start auditioning and right away,
you know, you get a Broadway show. But I found
out later it's it's a good tiver.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Well, that's a good way to start a career. Yeah,
I tell you your first audition, Bang, there you are.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
It wasn't the first audition, but it was. It was
the first year or so. Yeah, I was.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
I was twelve when I when I was in Rags,
which the name of that show, and I ended up
inviting the entire cast to my bar Mitzvah that fall.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
And quite a number of them came actually, so yeah,
it was.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
What is it like being that age, living from New
York and starring on Broadway.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
It's it's so.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Yeah, it's it's completely absurd, and and I've spent the
rest of my life slowly, ever so slowly coming to
an understanding of how that's not real life and people
don't leap to their feet sixteen hundred people standing ovation
(06:25):
every night just because you've you've made the perfect over
easy egg that morning, which is you know, the more frequent.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Thing I my schedule lately.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
So yeah, it's it's it's it's a ludicrous way to start,
but it was great. I got exposed to so many incredible,
incredible performers, and that was my you know, even before
getting to Yale, that was my education.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
I mean, who was in that play?
Speaker 3 (06:59):
So it starred Teresa Stratus who was an opera big
opera diva at the time, and and then Terrence Mann
was in it, Judy Kune and uh Lonnie Price. Yeah,
really it was it was quite the even just the
(07:21):
the the members of the ensemble, which is we're all
people that had done principal roles in.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Other Broadway shows. Now, did you ever actually go into
the Yale Daily News when you were at Yale. Did
you say it?
Speaker 4 (07:39):
I was terrified of the real, the real Yale Daily
News when.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I was what was the real daily News? Like, what
was the what were the stories? What were the rumors?
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Well, it wasn't so much about about what I had heard.
It was more about the prospect of having deadlines like that.
You know, I had actually been in high school. I am,
I was. I was an editor on my high school newspaper,
but luckily it came out about once a month, and
that was the kind of deadline I could handle. But
(08:10):
I was just I never went anywhere near trying to
go into the Yale Daily News when I was actually
at Yale, because they had to write and not procrastinate
for weeks at a time.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Did you consult anybody with anybody who had experience in
the actual Yale Daily News for research for the role?
Speaker 4 (08:30):
I didn't. No.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Did you think Gilmore Girls accurately portrayed Yale?
Speaker 4 (08:39):
It really did.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
I was actually blown away by what they pulled off,
even just in terms of the set decoration, you know,
the when I got to set and I saw the
whole classroom hallway there and the Yale Dale News main office,
(09:03):
it resembled so closely one of the classroom buildings at
Yale w lh so called Parkness Hall, and the wood
paneling in the halls and even the font on the
door numbers was they had their own font, the Yale font.
(09:24):
It's the actual thing that the yl Press has. It's
their own font, and that was the actual way we
used to see the door numbers. So it was a
bit of a trip at first, just just that aspect of.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
It for me.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Right, So do the Gilmour fans recognize you as Bill?
Do they stop you on the street?
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Yeah, this show is amazing that way, isn't it. It's
just you know, it's been what seventeen eighteen years, and yeah,
I still got recognized all the time from it, even
just you know, going out to dinner and the hostess
at the restaurant or yeah, it's it's a it's a
(10:10):
regular thing. It's just people keep watching this show and
rewatching it.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
You know, twenty five point two billion minutes consumed by
viewers on Netflix in twenty twenty three, twenty five billion.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
And that's why, you know, that's why I've made seven
billion from that.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
We haven't made seven cents.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Now wait, I have a seventeen cent check right over there.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
I have no Actually, I have a couple myself. What
are you up to? Now? What are you doing? Now?
Speaker 4 (11:00):
You know I've gotten more. I'm still acting.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
I still you know, I've been on a couple shows
the last few years, but I've also gotten a lot
more into writing and directing good. I mean, I've been
writing and directing all this time, but in particular the
last few years. I was fortunate enough to direct the
premiere of a brand new play in New York last year,
(11:24):
Brace for Impact, which was I mean still is Right
now the producers are looking for the next venue and
taking it to the next level. But it was just
a tremendous experience. Just that first run last spring was
It's just some of the best writing I've seen. My
(11:46):
friend Maya Nikifro wrote it, and it's such a personal story,
but it's also just so fricking funny. From the moment
you sit down, you're kind of taken in and I
got to really play around a lot. I got to
There was this clown character who doesn't speak the entire show,
(12:07):
and I ended up using him.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
But he's always.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Messing with the main the main character and kind of
leading her in and out of different parts of her
life and forcing her to face certain things.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
And I kind of used him for some of the lighting.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
I got him to plug in and and and uh
and unplug the the plugs for the for the some
of the light instruments that were based on the floor,
just to just to keep almost that that's that same
vibe that the character and airplane when he unplugs the
runway lights. You know, it was just I got to
have fun with so many aspects like that that.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
That, Yeah, normally I don't get a chance to do.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
And well, let me ask you, do you want to
direct film?
Speaker 5 (12:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:54):
I actually I have a script in development right now
that actually it's between its second and third draft that
you know, Fingers Crossed right now. I think they have
about a third of the funding so far for it.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
And who do you like? What directors do you really
really inspire you? Who are your top people that you
always watch their films whenever they're on.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Paul Thomas Anderson, Charlie Kaufman.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Oh sure, yeah, those are the two biggies who I
don't miss.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
I don't miss their work.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
James Gray, James Gray he's a fascinating director.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
I thought that one with Brad Pitt.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
A couple of years ago was one of the most
fascinating meditation.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Which one was that ad Astra? You know what? I
love that film?
Speaker 4 (13:57):
It was something, wasn't it was extraordinary.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I really like Brad Pitt. I think he's remarkably talented. Yeah,
that film, to me proves the point that movie stars
are few and far between. Can you imagine anyone else
in that role trying to carry a film like that
and you can't take your eyes off it. Yeah, that's
(14:21):
what he brings to the table because not a lot
of people can do that.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
He's phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
And it's funny you should say, you know what you
how you were just describing it. You know, I brought
that film up to people and I've said, you know,
ninety five percent of the film is the story is
told in these two eyes. That's that's it. You know
that there's there's very little dialogue. There's certain sequences that
(14:50):
have it, but the story is so clear, yep, so
clear and brutal.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Yeah, just remarkable filmmaking, a courageous filmmaking. Well, in my estimation,
you're going to be a very fine director.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
I brought that one up.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
We're going to do a little thing called rapid fire.
No pressure to answer quickly or speak rapidly. We just
call it rapid fire. How do you like your coffee?
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Very carefully?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Are your team Logan, Team Jess or Team Dean?
Speaker 3 (15:32):
It's hard for me not to be Team Logan. That's
you know, That's what I spent the most time with.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
And Yeah, he's kind of irresistible, isn't he? Yeah, you know,
he's a terrific guy. He's just such a great guy.
You know your root for him. Yeah. Who's your film favorite?
Gilmore Girls couple? Luke and Laurelo or Emily and Richard? Luke,
(15:57):
laurla Yeah, I don't care what you say anything, It
doesn't matter. Would you rather work with Michelle or Kirk? Again,
don't care who you choose. Kirk, what would you order it?
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Luke's diner, the perfect over easy eggs, so I can
judge it against.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
My own good Who would you rather hang out with
Paris or Lane?
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Paris?
Speaker 3 (16:27):
I know that sounds strange coming from Yeah, but as
much as Bill hated Paris in real life, I actually
bonded with Liza more than anyone else on the set.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Let me ask you this, would you rather who would
you rather hang with if you were in Paris, Paris
or Lane? Would you like Lane in Paris or Paris
in Paris.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
I'm gonna stick with Paris.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I think I already know the answer to this, Harvard
or Yale, as as.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
I'm sure you you you must have already been told
at some point Harvard secks. Yeah, there was this, you know,
I tell it really quick. I tell this this horrendously
pretentious story when sometimes people ask me about what it
was like at Yale, and mostly, you know, it was
this amazing place and actually people just.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
This remarkable priciple of community and learning. And but.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
I tell this story about you know, the game, the
big football game that's usually between Harvard and Well, we
called the game because it's between Harvard and the yel right,
and that's the only one that matters. And that's why
I just called the game. So when Princeton came to
play one of the football games at the Yell Bowl,
(17:53):
they started doing the chant from across the you know,
from their side of the stadium, and they started yelling,
you know, of course Yale sucks.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Yale sucks. Yeh sucks. That was the chance and.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
The response the perfectly snobbish but but you know it's
it's it's good enough to justify it. Response from our
side of the stadium was Harvard sucks. Harvard sucks because
Princeton doesn't even you know, register Why why are you
(18:30):
guys here?
Speaker 1 (18:34):
So Preston doesn't have too bad of a football team.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
No, they don't.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
And you know, in real real life, you know, of course,
these are all amazing places.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
That is that is just such a slight. Yeah, it
has been a pleasure, Devin. We have enjoyed your acting
on the show. We thought your head was going to
explode and several several points during your episodic journey through
(19:06):
Gilmore Girls, and we're glad to hear that you're friends
with Liza and that it didn't take on the life
of its own outside or off the set in the
same vein. But thank you so much, good luck with
everything with the directing and the writing, and hope to
(19:29):
see you your name and the credits and nominated on
the big screen or on the Tony Awards someday real soon.
Appreciate it all right, take care, Thanks so much.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
You hey, everybody, and to forget.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
I Am all in with Scott Patterson, an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Hey Everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all In podcast, one
on one interview, one eleven productions. iHeartRadio, iHeart Podcasts, iHeartMedia.
Devin Michaels is joining us. Here are some Gilmore facts.
He portrayed Bill for nine episodes of Gilmore Girls. That's
a pretty good haul. Bill was a Yale Daily News
student who eventually succeeded after Rory as editor in chief.
(00:45):
He grew up in New York City doing theater. He
debut on Broadway at age twelve, and I went on
to perform several prominent off Broadway venues. He also graduated
Yale University with a degree in Theater studies and psychology
as Television appearances include Fraser, The West Wing, The Division,
Monk Without a Trace, House Numbers, and more recently, you
(01:08):
can catch them on The Rookie and Race and Frankie.
Let's bring him in, Devin Michaels, Devin, thanks for coming on.
First off, how'd you get the role on Gilmore Girls?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Well, you know, I had gotten brought in years earlier.
I think it was still season one for just a
general interview with Jamie Rodowski and Mara Casey, and they
kept saying, you know, faster, and this was, you know,
before I really understood what that what that meant. And
(01:43):
I did it, you know, my little New York theater
experience growing up. I did it like ten percent faster,
twelve percent faster, and it kept they kept saying faster, faster,
and didn't hear from them for four and a half years.
So I figured, you know, okay, I did not go
(02:04):
fast enough. I had no idea what I was doing
for this particular show, and I didn't think i'd ever
hear from them again, and out of the blue, just
got brought in to read for Bill, and I thought
it was I wasn't sure at first, you know, that
(02:26):
it was going to be a recurring that that wasn't
clear in the beginning. It was just Asian brought me
in for, you know, for this guest star role. And
I found out later that that not only was a
recurring role, but that.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
It was based loosely.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
On one of the writers of the show that that
they that I reminded them of. And so it ended
up I just had to not completely suck in the audition.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
So you actually attended Yale University and you graduated from
the theater program very maybe the most prestigious theater program
in the United States other than Juilliard or I think
Northwestern is up there, but I don't, you know, I
think Juilliard, I'm sorry, Yale REP is just right up there.
Or theater program. Now you you studied, uh is Bobby
(03:23):
Lewis still a prominent name up there, and I I
think he built that program. It's a three year program,
is it not?
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Well?
Speaker 3 (03:34):
I did not actually do Yale Drama School for undergrad gotcha.
I did major in theater studies and psychology with a
philosophy concentration that uh, there was some overlap.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Of course. I had had some some.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Some connection to the drama school because it was right there,
and did let some of the undergrad theater majors.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
You know, talk to them once in a while. So
it wasn't you know, complete silos.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
But but no, I'm not familiar with the full you know,
the full drama school program.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
So you grew up in New York City. How did
you get to Yale? What kind of grades did you
need to have to get into Yale?
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I did have very good grades probably you know, not
unlike Bill, but I did. I was a kid actor.
I started acting when I was eleven years old. I
went to this theater camp stage door manor you might
have heard of a lot of other.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
You know, a lot of other people in LA have
gone there.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
And the directors of the camp who were fantastic, Jack
Romano and the other people there that they thought I
was really good and they introduced me to their agent
friends in New York at the time, and I just
started going out on auditions right away, and I ended
up booking a Broadway show. And thought, that's the way
(05:08):
that acting is. You just start auditioning and right away,
you know, you get a Broadway show. But I found
out later it's it's a good tiver.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Well, that's a good way to start a career. Yeah,
I tell you your first audition, Bang, there you are.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
It wasn't the first audition, but it was. It was
the first year or so. Yeah, I was.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
I was twelve when I when I was in Rags,
which the name of that show, and I ended up
inviting the entire cast to my bar Mitzvah that fall.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
And quite a number of them came actually, so yeah,
it was.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
What is it like being that age, living from New
York and starring on Broadway.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
It's it's so.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Yeah, it's it's completely absurd, and and I've spent the
rest of my life slowly, ever so slowly coming to
an understanding of how that's not real life and people
don't leap to their feet sixteen hundred people standing ovation
(06:25):
every night just because you've you've made the perfect over
easy egg that morning, which is you know, the more frequent.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Thing I my schedule lately.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
So yeah, it's it's it's it's a ludicrous way to start,
but it was great. I got exposed to so many incredible,
incredible performers, and that was my you know, even before
getting to Yale, that was my education.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
I mean, who was in that play?
Speaker 3 (06:59):
So it starred Teresa Stratus who was an opera big
opera diva at the time, and and then Terrence Mann
was in it, Judy Kune and uh Lonnie Price. Yeah,
really it was it was quite the even just the
(07:21):
the the members of the ensemble, which is we're all
people that had done principal roles in.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Other Broadway shows. Now, did you ever actually go into
the Yale Daily News when you were at Yale. Did
you say it?
Speaker 4 (07:39):
I was terrified of the real, the real Yale Daily
News when.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I was what was the real daily News? Like, what
was the what were the stories? What were the rumors?
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Well, it wasn't so much about about what I had heard.
It was more about the prospect of having deadlines like that.
You know, I had actually been in high school. I am,
I was. I was an editor on my high school newspaper,
but luckily it came out about once a month, and
that was the kind of deadline I could handle. But
(08:10):
I was just I never went anywhere near trying to
go into the Yale Daily News when I was actually
at Yale, because they had to write and not procrastinate
for weeks at a time.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Did you consult anybody with anybody who had experience in
the actual Yale Daily News for research for the role?
Speaker 4 (08:30):
I didn't. No.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Did you think Gilmore Girls accurately portrayed Yale?
Speaker 4 (08:39):
It really did.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
I was actually blown away by what they pulled off,
even just in terms of the set decoration, you know,
the when I got to set and I saw the
whole classroom hallway there and the Yale Dale News main office,
(09:03):
it resembled so closely one of the classroom buildings at
Yale w lh so called Parkness Hall, and the wood
paneling in the halls and even the font on the
door numbers was they had their own font, the Yale font.
(09:24):
It's the actual thing that the yl Press has. It's
their own font, and that was the actual way we
used to see the door numbers. So it was a
bit of a trip at first, just just that aspect of.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
It for me.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Right, So do the Gilmour fans recognize you as Bill?
Do they stop you on the street?
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Yeah, this show is amazing that way, isn't it. It's
just you know, it's been what seventeen eighteen years, and yeah,
I still got recognized all the time from it, even
just you know, going out to dinner and the hostess
at the restaurant or yeah, it's it's a it's a
(10:10):
regular thing. It's just people keep watching this show and
rewatching it.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
You know, twenty five point two billion minutes consumed by
viewers on Netflix in twenty twenty three, twenty five billion.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
And that's why, you know, that's why I've made seven
billion from that.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
We haven't made seven cents.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Now wait, I have a seventeen cent check right over there.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
I have no Actually, I have a couple myself. What
are you up to? Now? What are you doing? Now?
Speaker 4 (11:00):
You know I've gotten more. I'm still acting.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
I still you know, I've been on a couple shows
the last few years, but I've also gotten a lot
more into writing and directing good. I mean, I've been
writing and directing all this time, but in particular the
last few years. I was fortunate enough to direct the
premiere of a brand new play in New York last year,
(11:24):
Brace for Impact, which was I mean still is Right
now the producers are looking for the next venue and
taking it to the next level. But it was just
a tremendous experience. Just that first run last spring was
It's just some of the best writing I've seen. My
(11:46):
friend Maya Nikifro wrote it, and it's such a personal story,
but it's also just so fricking funny. From the moment
you sit down, you're kind of taken in and I
got to really play around a lot. I got to
There was this clown character who doesn't speak the entire show,
(12:07):
and I ended up using him.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
But he's always.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Messing with the main the main character and kind of
leading her in and out of different parts of her
life and forcing her to face certain things.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
And I kind of used him for some of the lighting.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
I got him to plug in and and and uh
and unplug the the plugs for the for the some
of the light instruments that were based on the floor,
just to just to keep almost that that's that same
vibe that the character and airplane when he unplugs the
runway lights. You know, it was just I got to
have fun with so many aspects like that that.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
That, Yeah, normally I don't get a chance to do.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
And well, let me ask you, do you want to
direct film?
Speaker 5 (12:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:54):
I actually I have a script in development right now
that actually it's between its second and third draft that
you know, Fingers Crossed right now. I think they have
about a third of the funding so far for it.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
And who do you like? What directors do you really
really inspire you? Who are your top people that you
always watch their films whenever they're on.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Paul Thomas Anderson, Charlie Kaufman.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Oh sure, yeah, those are the two biggies who I
don't miss.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
I don't miss their work.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
James Gray, James Gray he's a fascinating director.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
I thought that one with Brad Pitt.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
A couple of years ago was one of the most
fascinating meditation.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Which one was that ad Astra? You know what? I
love that film?
Speaker 4 (13:57):
It was something, wasn't it was extraordinary.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I really like Brad Pitt. I think he's remarkably talented. Yeah,
that film, to me proves the point that movie stars
are few and far between. Can you imagine anyone else
in that role trying to carry a film like that
and you can't take your eyes off it. Yeah, that's
(14:21):
what he brings to the table because not a lot
of people can do that.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
He's phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
And it's funny you should say, you know what you
how you were just describing it. You know, I brought
that film up to people and I've said, you know,
ninety five percent of the film is the story is
told in these two eyes. That's that's it. You know
that there's there's very little dialogue. There's certain sequences that
(14:50):
have it, but the story is so clear, yep, so
clear and brutal.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Yeah, just remarkable filmmaking, a courageous filmmaking. Well, in my estimation,
you're going to be a very fine director.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
I brought that one up.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
We're going to do a little thing called rapid fire.
No pressure to answer quickly or speak rapidly. We just
call it rapid fire. How do you like your coffee?
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Very carefully?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Are your team Logan, Team Jess or Team Dean?
Speaker 3 (15:32):
It's hard for me not to be Team Logan. That's
you know, That's what I spent the most time with.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
And Yeah, he's kind of irresistible, isn't he? Yeah, you know,
he's a terrific guy. He's just such a great guy.
You know your root for him. Yeah. Who's your film favorite?
Gilmore Girls couple? Luke and Laurelo or Emily and Richard? Luke,
(15:57):
laurla Yeah, I don't care what you say anything, It
doesn't matter. Would you rather work with Michelle or Kirk? Again,
don't care who you choose. Kirk, what would you order it?
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Luke's diner, the perfect over easy eggs, so I can
judge it against.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
My own good Who would you rather hang out with
Paris or Lane?
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Paris?
Speaker 3 (16:27):
I know that sounds strange coming from Yeah, but as
much as Bill hated Paris in real life, I actually
bonded with Liza more than anyone else on the set.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Let me ask you this, would you rather who would
you rather hang with if you were in Paris, Paris
or Lane? Would you like Lane in Paris or Paris
in Paris.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
I'm gonna stick with Paris.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I think I already know the answer to this, Harvard
or Yale, as as.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
I'm sure you you you must have already been told
at some point Harvard secks. Yeah, there was this, you know,
I tell it really quick. I tell this this horrendously
pretentious story when sometimes people ask me about what it
was like at Yale, and mostly, you know, it was
this amazing place and actually people just.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
This remarkable priciple of community and learning. And but.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
I tell this story about you know, the game, the
big football game that's usually between Harvard and Well, we
called the game because it's between Harvard and the yel right,
and that's the only one that matters. And that's why
I just called the game. So when Princeton came to
play one of the football games at the Yell Bowl,
(17:53):
they started doing the chant from across the you know,
from their side of the stadium, and they started yelling,
you know, of course Yale sucks.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Yale sucks. Yeh sucks. That was the chance and.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
The response the perfectly snobbish but but you know it's
it's it's good enough to justify it. Response from our
side of the stadium was Harvard sucks. Harvard sucks because
Princeton doesn't even you know, register Why why are you
(18:30):
guys here?
Speaker 1 (18:34):
So Preston doesn't have too bad of a football team.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
No, they don't.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
And you know, in real real life, you know, of course,
these are all amazing places.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
That is that is just such a slight. Yeah, it
has been a pleasure, Devin. We have enjoyed your acting
on the show. We thought your head was going to
explode and several several points during your episodic journey through
(19:06):
Gilmore Girls, and we're glad to hear that you're friends
with Liza and that it didn't take on the life
of its own outside or off the set in the
same vein. But thank you so much, good luck with
everything with the directing and the writing, and hope to
(19:29):
see you your name and the credits and nominated on
the big screen or on the Tony Awards someday real soon.
Appreciate it all right, take care, Thanks so much.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
You hey, everybody, and to forget.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
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