June 1, 2023 • 46 mins
Emily and Richard were having a "Yale Alumni" Party but it was all just a ruse. The party was filled with potential suitors for Rory.
In "The Party's Over", Jordan Belfi was Jordan Chase and he was ready to shoot his shot.
But then, Logan slid in right at that moment and Jordan Chase was history.
Jordan Belfi joins Scott to discuss, share some great Czuchry stories, and Gilmore BTS.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I Am all in.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
You.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
I Am all In with Scott Patterson, an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
All Right, Everybody, Scott Patterson one on one interview, I
Am All In Podcast, iHeartRadio one eleven Productions. We are
going to be talking to a Jordan Belfie, who played
the role of Jordan Chase for one episode in two
thousand and five. His only appearance was in season five,
episode eight, The Party's Over. His character was Jordan. He
was sent to talk to Rory at the party by Emily,
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who told him that they were made for each other.
Logan and erupts them and thanks Jordan for keeping his
girl quote unquote busy. All right, A little bit about Jordan.
He was born in Los Angeles, California. He's an actor
and producer known for Entourage two thousand and four, All
American twenty eighteen, Grades Anatomy two thousand and five. He
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has been married to Rochelle de Maria since October twenty seven,
twenty eighteen. He has a young son. And we're going
to get to know Jordan a little better. And why
don't you bring him on in? Hey Jordan, Hi, Hey,
all right, let's do it. Man. How'd you get into acting.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
How did I get into acting? Well, I started actually
when I was a kid. I was obsessed with cinema.
I was always shooting movies and wrangling all the kids
from the neighborhood. So I was always obsessed with movies
and with acting. I started doing commercials actually, you know,
when I was a kid. But I went away to
film school back east. I grew up in southern Calfin
in LA, just outside of the you know, in the
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suburbs outside of LA. Went to New England to school
to Wesleyan University. Was a film major. There was directing
shows and performing in shows. But I was a film major.
And then when I came back, I really started my career.
I directed a your thesis film while in school that
got seen when I got back to LA, passed around,
got me picked up by the agents and managers I
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had at the time, and then I started my career wonderful.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I am. DP page says that you were a camera
production assistant on the movie Wild Wild West. Is that true?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
It's totally true. I was still in college at the time. I,
like I said, I was a film major, So I
was hustling and getting in and around anything that I could,
And I got on that movie as a in the
camera department, and I was a teenager and I was
taken in by the camera crew. It was a famous
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director of photography named Michael Ballhaus fellows and tons of
Scorsese movies, story DP. I worked in his department. The
camera operator on that movie became like a mentor to me,
not only just a friend, but a mentor, and he
ended up shooting that that senior thesis film of mine
my senior year of college. And so I built this
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amazing community of a film makers and friends who were
serious professionals and became mentors and it helped me generate
a start to my career. But yes, it's totally true.
And will Smith was very kind to me at the
at the time I was. Again, I can't say that
he did, but it.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Was, it was.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
It was a really formative point for me in terms
of being around it was. It was the biggest of
the big in terms of studio movies, and I was
a teenager and I was right next to camera the
whole time, and I took in all of it and
it really affected me, affected what I wanted to do,
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but also the way in which I was going to
go about doing it. I absorbed everything I could from,
you know, the guys that were doing it at the
highest levels, and so I was really lucky and really
fortunate to be in that position and then to uh
to take it all in.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Yeah, I mean watching a guy like Ballhause jeez, yeah, yeah, deep,
He's always got me very excited. If you knew that
it was a top guy and you're going to be
working with a top guy, then everybody just kind of
sat back and let him light and let him do
his thing.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
And although I will say, I don't want to talk
out of school, because again I was I was just
a camera assistant on that. But a guy named Barry
Soenfeld was directing that who famously, you know, made Men
in Black, you know, with and movies I loved, like
Get Shorty and things like that. But he I could
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even tell, and again I don't want to talk out
of school, but I could even tell at that point
that he and his style and Michael Bauhaus's style didn't
really mesh. Oh no, And unfortunately, I think it's sort
of like resulted in a movie that really wasn't what
it could have been. But in terms of the people
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and the experience for me personally.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
But I mean, but Unfeld picked him or did the
studio just say you're working with Balhausen.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
I can't. I don't know enough to be able to
say say.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
They must have sat down. I mean they spend all
of that time in pre production together, you know, mapping
out shots and locations they were together.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Yeah, But you know, as with anything in any kind
of collaborative art form, sometimes you know, it isn't until
you're in the thick of it that you know you
either you either line up or you don't.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
I know what happened. I Will Smith started just unloading
on both of them, right, he was just slapping people
all over the place. Right.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
It isn't true, but funny, funny thought nonetheless. But yeah,
I mean that's why I think, even in my own career,
in my own life, when you find people that you
work with that you just that spark happens. It's a
sort of difficult thing to describe to people outside of it.
But there's an electricity, there's a sort of ineffable, you know,
ethereal connection that can happen that becomes a electric and
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profound And when you find that in somebody that you're
working with, you want to work with that person over
and over again. It's why you see you know, you
know DiCaprio and Scorsese or any of these teams, or
the movie after movie after movie. You just want to
keep working.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
With those I found that several times. But it was
always with the craft service food I found.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
But equally equally is important.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Amazing. What do you remember about your role on Gilmore Girls?
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Yeah, so when you guys reached out about this, it
was it was going a minute.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Did you even remember being on this ship?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Oh? No, I know. I will say, I'm not going
to pretend that I don't remember. You know, you try
to think that, oh, I'm way past that, you know. No,
I remember everything and everything I've ever done, and I
remember almost everybody I've I've ever worked with. That's the
way my mind works, and that's the way my heart works.
But uh, what what do I remember about it? I remember,
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I remember auditioning for it. I remember in the room
it was a very specific thing that they said, uh
that we talked fast on this show, and that's just
the way we do it. I remember even in the
audition them telling it. It was just sort of a thing.
I think they said to any actor, any performance coming through,
this is our this is the world, this is how
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we we operate. And it was very clear from moment
one that that's how they operated. The other things I remember,
I don't know how much detail you want, but.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
I want it all, man, give it to everything.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Oh god, man. I remember that that they were very
into for characters like like you know that came through
for an episode like mine. They were very into using
your own name the name of the character. There was
something about that that I think that they thought that
gave us sort of some extra little authenticity, something little
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icing on the cake.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Well, they didn't have to clear it.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
That might be a practical legal reason that I'm not
aware of, but I'm going with the artistic side. But
you might be right. I'm trying to give the creators
and the and and the writers.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
That is what I do. I ruin it. I ruin it.
I just I just I'm.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Sure all the magic and mystery.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
I just keep my mouth shut. I'd be I'd be
a lot better off now.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Scott, It's cool. I actually I believe I believe it.
I believe that characters like that they.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
It's not cool. I gotta stop rowing and stuff. Man,
No it is. It's an amazing detail. It's fraught with
artistic integrity. You used your own name.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
I didn't use my own name. They changed the name
of the character. What a twist, I mean for all
of it. Man, the character this I couldn't tell you.
I don't remember what the character was named. Prior to me,
it was something Chase, but they changed it. I showed up,
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I got the script, and all of a sudden it
was Jordan Chase and some of the other things I remember.
I remember very distinctly waiting probably twelve hours to shoot.
It was one of those things where I remember sitting
in the trailer whatever schedule. The schedules like that happen
all the.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Time, and you probably got the call from the you know, saying, hey,
you know, we're just about to get to your scene.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
You need to come back now correctly.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Then you're there all day.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
The reason I remember that, Scott is because I know
I'm from LA but my entire childhood and life I've
been a Boston Red Sox fan. This was two thousand
and four. This was October of two thousand and four.
I remember it very specifically, this.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Is when they is this the first time they won
it in a long time? Right?
Speaker 3 (09:51):
This was the year that the one and while we
were shooting Gilmore Girls, the alcs between famously between the
Red Sox and the Yankees where they were down three
games to zero and then came back in one fourth
straight in this miracle thing to beat the Yankees in
order to go the World Series. And the reason I
mentioned that is because I remember during those twelve hours
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that I was waiting at the end of the night,
I sat in my trailer and I watched the Red
Sox lose one of those three games to the Yankees,
and it burned in my mind. And then when they
finally called, I went and shot that's that's stuff and
Gilmore Girls.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
So you're borrowing from your own life and bringing it
into the work.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Borrowing something interesting.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
From Jordan with the loss, the baseball loss.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
It's true because in that scene I am I am
totally rejected.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
I do lose because I remember watching the episode and
I remember seeing you, and I said, this guy is
rising above some serious pain. Now I know what it is.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
I could tell the sarcasms a little thing, A dare
you diminish that role. No. I And again, I don't
know if this is interesting to you or your your audience,
your listeners. But the other reason I remember that time
so specifically is because that two thousand and four, as
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long ago as that was, it seems like a lifetime ago.
It was actually a very transfer. Well, it was kind
of an inflection point in my career because that was
also the same year that I started on Entourage. Ah,
and that changed my career.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Oh sure, So what was the part like on Entourage?
What did you do on Entourage?
Speaker 3 (11:38):
I played this character named Adam Davies. I was an agent.
I started out as Johnny Drama Kevin Dillon's character, his agent,
and then I grew to become a nemesis to Ari
Gold and Jerem Pimmon's character. And so I did it
for six years. But that year, the first was the
first episode that I did, And it was supposed to
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only be one episode originally, but it just it became
something that grew. Deug Gallon, the creator kept writing me
in and it just became this this character on the show.
But that was the same time I was doing this
this Gilmore Girls, and so it's burned into my memory
for that reason as well, was that it was one
of those as an actor, you remember those moments in
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your career. There are these like points along that that
graph that you're like, that's when that happened and that changed.
It was that.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
So what do you remember about filming with with Matt
Zukri and Alexis Bledel.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
You know what's funny is that I just worked.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
With Matt no on The Resident The Residence.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
I just and we talked about it and it's it
was it's one of these things about this this business,
and it's a beautiful thing actually that you know, in effect,
it's a very very small business. It's a small world,
but it's an infinitely smaller business. And you know the
fact that you could circle back with somebody and reunite
and work again, you know, seventeen eighteen years later or
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whatever it is, is remarkable and it's you know, it's
it's super fun. I mean I didn't I got to
be honest, I didn't get to necessarily know them super well,
you know, from coming in and doing an episode. But
everyone was cool. I mean it was fun. And you know,
for anyone that's listening that doesn't know what we're referring to.
What I remember is that it's basically this party, and
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I'm hitting on Rory. Is it? It's work. I've been asked
to go up by you know that she's you know,
maybe available, or at least that's what I've been told,
and I go hit on her.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
And as as a young man would, as.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
A young upstanding man would.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
I don't invited to the party for that very purpose.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
So so Matt, you know, in the scene, Matt slides
in and save her from from me. As I write,
so we're big.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
We're big Matt fans here at the podcast. We adore,
we adore Maddie.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
He's a nice guy.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Oh, he's a terrific, terrific guy.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Yeah, and I will. And you know, I think a
lot of times because I've you know, I've guested and
recurred on many, many, many many shows, and you're in
an interesting position when you're coming in to do an
episode or two or three, or do an arc on
a show like that, because you're essentially a guest in
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someone else's house. And in a way I've been told,
you know, I don't think about it this way, but
in a lot of ways, it's actually a more difficult
position to be in.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
I agree, I do it. I agree with that you have.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
To just sort of drop in to an already established.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
World, especially that show.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Especially that show, but an already established universe that has
its own rules, its own tone, it's its own rhythms.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
You weren't allowed to look at anybody, right, those signs
were up, don't You're.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Not allowed to look at Mad or you know, or
Alexus in the eye. I mean, those things color it.
But but you have to drop in and operate in
this way that like it's seamless with with a world
that's already established that you have no ramp up to
ease into, and so you've got to drop in and
be there. Yeah, in a way like doing a role
like that on Gilmore Girls. I mean it's, uh, you
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just got to kind of you've got to execute. You
got to drop in and be there.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Did you rehearse? Did you rehearse your scene? A ton
of times? That way?
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Oh? Personally or personally with or with with the Mad
and a Lexus?
Speaker 1 (15:44):
No, I mean your like the Night Course, I mean, of.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Course, I mean you you know, you do all your
own work, and a lot of that, particularly because I'm
probably not telling you anything you don't already know, or
most of your audience doesn't already know. But the speed
of television there is zero rehearsal and so.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Really well known. Well for that, I guess that kind
of a scene they didn't they didn't they didn't rehearse
the scene.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Not just not just that kind of scene, any scene.
I mean you And what by I mean zero rehearsal.
You might do it a take or a rehearsal take
or to just to sort of you know, stage it
for for you know, the director and the crew and
they see you know your position and stuff.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Yeah, well they have to do it for camera to
get focused focused us.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
You run it. You run it once or twice for
those reasons, sort of practical reason and sometimes you know,
for you to find it for a second. But you
don't have time to work it and make discoveries. And
really you're expected and and as you should be, you know,
to to be ready to go and turn it on
and execute, and television and and a lot of movies,
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you don't have time for that. You you got to
be a pro and show up. And so even more
so with a scene like this, like we're not going
to rehearse, rehearse, it's like you're gonna be brought in,
You're going to drop in, You're do it once for
camera and for Marx, and then you're gonna shoot. Yeah,
particularly when they're running as far behind as they were
that night, right exactly.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah, You poor guys have to pay the price every
time with those big setups, in those big party scenes
they take forever.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
It's a small it's a small price to pay for
that price.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah. So when you're out in the in the real
world outside of the Hollywood bubble, are you recognized for
the Gilmore girl role? Are you recognized for the Entourage role?
What do you recognize for?
Speaker 3 (17:42):
There are a handful, you know. Again I say this humbly,
and you know, out of complete uh gratitude for people,
you know, having appreciation for your work. It's not too
or anything like that. But yes, there are. There are
a handful of roles that I've had the wildly good
fortune to play. The people love that. People watch over
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and over again and recognize me for when I'm out
and about. Probably, you know, the the biggest one is
Entourage because it has that show, you know, although it's
been off the air for a number of years now.
The fandom around that show and the way it was
a kind of again it started in two thousand and four.
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HBO was the prestige game in town. It was no streaming.
HBO Sunday Nights was sacrocick. It was the prestigious night
of television. In fact, remember the whole thing HBO. It's
not TV, you know, it's HBO.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Right.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
It was that era of like just you know, Sopranos
was still on, but you know, Sex and the City
and then Entourage came. It was like zeitgeist stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Right, they're using swear words.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Wow. Yeah, But I can't tell you how many people
love come up to me quote my own lines back
at me, want to talk about it, or tell me
about how they moved to La because of that show,
or they wanted to get into the entertainment business because
of what they saw on Enturage or whatever it was.
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It was a lot of people's window kind of lyriistic
jokes on Yeah, it is really true. But you know
it's also interesting, Scott, is that when you look enough,
time passes because La itself was sort of almost another
character within the show, because it was all about Los
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Angeles and it was all shot on location in and
around Los Angeles. What's amazing is when you look at
the show, now, how much of a kind of time
capsule for Los Angeles the show because unfortunately, how La
What La is sort of what's happened in La in
the past handful of years and you look back on
entraage and you see it glaringly. But anyway, to finished
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answer your question, Entourage and I start in, you know,
in a Hallmark you know rom com, a kind of
you know holiday Hallmark movie. Oh really, for whatever reason,
I you know, I start in this movie. People, it's
one of the most popular Hallmark movies.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Of all time, no kidding? Who is who is your
co star? Who is the female?
Speaker 3 (20:17):
A woman named Katrina Law? Okay, Katrina is now on NCIS,
but they they play it every single holiday season for
ten years. It is remarkable. And what's what's special about that?
And I'm not diminishing that genre at all, because it's
is that it because it airs every year, and it's
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part of it's become a part of people's holiday traditions.
You're in their homes. You're not just in their homes,
but you're in their homes during the period that they're
most kind of with their family in that kind of
cozy place. So for for my movie, for that movie
to be a part of people's tradition and their family
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time in that way, it's a really special People love
it and you know you can't help, but just you know,
be grateful for being able to be a part of that,
you know, be a part of people's lives in that way.
So those are probably the two things off the top
of my head that people recognize me the most out
and about.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Got right right of course. So you played opposite Jeremy Piven.
Did you get to work with him during you know,
during your scenes or did you shoot your scenes separately?
What was it like working What was it like working
with him? Because I know he's a he's I don't
know him, okay, but I was around him a little
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bit at one point the I don't know, twenty years ago.
He's a very intense guy, right did you find him
to be? And he's a very good actor, ya, So
what tell us about that experience? Did you bring your bongos.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Bring my bonds?
Speaker 1 (22:00):
He's a big into drumming?
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Oh is he? I will? I will admit I didn't
know that, right. Uh, he's a very good actor, and
he brings he brings a lot of originality and instinctiveness
and energy and force to the role, and specifically that role.
I think I think everyone once in a while, every
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once in a great while. I mean, in fact, I
think if it happens once, maybe twice in your career,
that you as a performer, as who you are and
a particular character just aligns so much that it sparks
why and if you and you know, a lot of
people spend their whole careers searching for that that role.
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It just it's And the thing is is that there's
a good deal of it that's outside of your control, because.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
You find that most of the time that role finds you.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
It's a good question, you know what I mean. I
do know what you mean. I'll give you an example.
I'm in I'm starring in a movie right now that's
in theaters. It's been in theaters for the past this
is the seventh weekend. It's the latest film that I'm
called Nefarious. It's me and Sean Patrick Flannering came.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Oh, I know Sean.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Yeah, he's a terrific Yeah, and a really like a
really solid good guy. And the movie is essentially what
they call a two hander. It's really just a two
person movie. So it's just me and Sean for almost
the entirety of the film, which is insanely rare, incredibly unique,
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and you just don't see movies like that anymore. And
there's it's really about performance and and and because so
who you're acting opposite is everything that that role is
one of the you know, one of the best juiciest, delicious,
rich complex roles that I've ever had the opportunity to play.
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It's you know, and and also being released to theaters
as it is and being as successful as it is,
it's like had this insane run. I mean, the number
of variables that have to come together for all that
to happen is lightning in a bottle that most of
which you can't control. But to your point, how that
movie came to me, I'll still never.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Really know, because you're in the game.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
You're in the game.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
You're in the game, You're you're you're you're slugging it
out every day, and you know, a lot of days
you're getting beat up real bad, and then you just
you know, you you stay in the game. You stay,
you keep punching, and stuff is going to happen. You know.
It's for me, it's always been a marathon, you know.
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And it's just like the longer you stay in it
a the better you're going to get at auditioning, the
more your name's going to get out there, the more
work you're going to get come in your way, and
the more people in your category are going to retire
for one reason or another. And it's just.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
It's just just wait it out. I think I think
that there is a huge amount that that that is
dead on.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
That is, yeah, it keeps you keep you stay in
the game. It's you don't have to be relevant, you know.
It's like it's hard to be it's hard to become
relevant and then stay relevant, you know. But it's like
if you're in the game and you're like, hey, I'm here,
you know, I'm I'm auditioning, and I'm like I'm out
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there and I'm available and I'm working. I want to work.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
I think that's I think that's totally.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
It's the mindset. It's it's like it's your mental toughness
to hang in there, you know, I think.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
But also as you said one of the important components
is that you know, you never stop working, and so
you're you're also always refining your craft and building that
experience and having that, you know, sort of the wake
of all those roles stay with you, and you bring
that to everything that you do. I mean, that's the
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thing that people underestimate about not just acting, but probably
any craft, is that you're not just hiring that person
for that job. You're hiring that person also for essentially
every other job they've ever done, because all of that experience,
all of that how much they're known for all those
other roles, but all of those other roles that they've
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done are a part of what their craft is and
what they're bringing to now this new role that you're
hiring them for. And I definitely think that's true for me,
and everything that you just said is true for how
I've built my career. It's been a total marathon. I mean,
we're talking about me starting on Entourage. That was in
two thousand and four, that's almost twenty years ago, and
I've never stopped. And so you're right, like, this role
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in Nefarious is the name of the movie. I didn't
audition for it, came to me, and just on a
personal note, you know, I've shared this in some of
the press and stuff I've done for that movie. But
when that movie came to me, I had to make
a decision. And my wife was nine and a half
months pregnant.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
This was gonna be my next question.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
So I had to make a decision because I knew
that if I took that movie, I was almost guaranteed
to miss the birth of my first born, and in fact,
I did miss the birth of my firstborn son, not
just my firstborn son, my first born and so he
was born, as I shared, on day one of shooting.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
That movie, and you were out of town.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
I was out of town.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
How far away were you.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
In Oklahoma City?
Speaker 1 (27:48):
You're in Oklahoma and she was here in La.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
I went to bed. She went into labor the night
before day one of that movie, a movie in which
I was in every moment of the entire movie. So
like I was describing a two person movie, it was
this massive endeavor that lay before me that I was
about to embark on. And the night before starting that
my wife went into labor. So I went to bed
that night, knowing I was starting the movie in the morning,
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and my wife was in labor. I got up in
the morning. I went to set, which was this real
penitentiary where we were shooting at. I went through hair
and makeup, I got to my trailer, I got into wardrobe,
and I got the text from my mother in law,
her mom, that he had just been born. And I
facetimed and my little boy, and again.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
This is my first Did you cry?
Speaker 3 (28:35):
I was trying not to because I was in makeup,
but it was impossible not to. I mean, I'm looking
at I'm facetiming. He's ninety seconds old. He's on my
wife's chest and I'm looking at him. And as cliche
as I'm sure it sounds to anybody that doesn't have kids,
it really is this out of body moment and I'm
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looking at this being and he's an alien, but he's
also and I'm having that moment. And then right in
that moment, Knock Knock Jordan were ready, and so I
had to hang up and want to go do the
first shot of the movie.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
And what was do you remember? You you remember the
scene that you had to do?
Speaker 3 (29:18):
It was it wasn't it wasn't an intense thing. It
was this driving scene, but I went, but nobody knew,
nobody on the movie right now.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
You don't wanna, You don't want to tell them like, hey,
I'm gonna I just my you know. And then well
the other thing is the producers like, hey, you know,
why did you do that? You're causing all these delays,
it's costing all this money.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
I think it was mostly because they probably were would
have been horrified that I would just leave and just
take off, and that they couldn't probably tell me no,
because you know, and and I'm sure there's probably a
lot of people that understandably would have just said, I'm
out of here. I gotta go.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
That's a tough call because you know, it's like that's
long term security for your family, and that job is
definitely some security, but you don't know what that job
is gonna lead to, could lead to much bigger and
better things.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Never know. And that's, by the way, and that wasn't
the only thing. It's not like I did. It's not
like I told my wife this is what I'm doing.
No matter what you think, I'm leaving.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Don't care. You go have your baby. I'm gonna go
do my acting career.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
No, we we you know, this was a this was
a deep intimate decision that we came to together and
we decided as a family it was best for us
and best for our family, like you just said, long term,
and so I have every intention of being there the
next time.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
You know, it's it's a it's a tough it's just
such a tough call, but you gotta do you know,
you gotta do the right thing for the family. You
can't be wrong in that situation. If you're there, that's
the right decision. If you're not there and you do
the movie, and that's the right decision too. So it's
like there's both decisions are correct because you'll.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Never know, you'll never know what Domino's like will be
set in motion from as a result of each position.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
No, no, seriously, and they could be great movies and
they could be you know, could be good for everybody.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Your hundred sent Okay, I'll share one little thing if
you're interested, one other little part of that which feeds
into what you just said for me personally, and again
you can some of it, I know are things that
we when we say we see signs, you know, I
know that there's probably an argument to be made. It's
it's about what we want to see or what we're
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projecting onto it or the rest. But I will say
that this one story that I have shared with with
certain people. My son's name is Rocky. That's what we
named him. And we had already named him, you know,
by the time I left for Oklahoma City. And I
got to Oklahoma City, which is a city I'd never been,
and I was staying in a hotel I didn't choose,
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but I got there on that Sunday night. He was
born that Wednesday. But I got there that Sunday night
and I got to my hotel and I got up
to the room and I was I remember thinking I
was torn up about about it. And I remember getting
to the room and I was standing there, I was alone,
and I said to myself, what the hell am I doing?
What am I doing? I'm in Oklahoma City. My wife
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is two thousand miles away, you know, about to give birth.
What what am I doing? This is crazy? And so,
you know, I was feeling that, and I was like,
you know what, I'm just going to go for a walk.
I'm just gonna I'm just gonna clear my head. I'm
just gonna go for a walk. I put my bag down,
I walked out of the hotel. I turned right. I
walked a block and I looked up and there was
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a gigantic sign that said Rocky right next to where
I was staying. A literal sign. Obviously the figure it
out expected self explanatory, but a literal sign. I've never
seen a sign that says that says Rocky. It it
was a venue. It was like a bar, you know,
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you know, music venue kind of thing. And I you
have this moment where I remember thinking, okay, I'm maybe
it's okay, it's okay. Then Scott I go to set
and my stunt coordinator on the movie, Sylvester Stallone's double
(33:29):
like twenty years who did the movies? Impossible just impossible,
And I remember thinking, whatever you believe, whatever you believe in, okay,
it's okay that I'm here. And it gave me a
certain sense of peace that I was that it was
okay at least for me.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Amazing, Yeah, what are you working on Now's? First of all,
how old is Rocky now?
Speaker 3 (33:58):
He is now seventeen months, He's.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Just seventeen months. He's still a little little nut guy.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
He's uh, he and he's I mean, you have I
have any kids.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Yet, I just have I just have Nick. He's he's
going to be nine years old early June.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
So you have a little boy. I mean you can
remember if you remember that far back. I'm sure you do.
Although everybody says the same thing to the point where
you're like, yay, I get it that. You know, everyone
says enjoyed, it goes.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Fast, enjoyed it goes It really does.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
But I know, and you hear it and you know
it intellectually and you're like, yeah, yeah, I get it,
and then it's totally true. Right.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
But you know, he's when he starts getting older, like
he just starts getting six, seven, eight, you know, and
you're gonna have full on conversations with him, and man,
you're gonna think back and like, God, it just seems
like yesterday he was this. It's just this cute little
bundle of you know, and it's just it blows your mind. Yeah,
(34:58):
it goes fast. It's almost the decade, and I just
it seems like it just happened.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Yeah, I'm already feeling that he's only eighteen months old.
I can't even imagine when when he's nine and I
can have full on conversations.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Oh yeah, it's it's amazing, it's it's it's a mirror
every single day is And I've said this before. You know,
people and and and they can they can have their
own definitions about what the meaning of life is. I
discovered what the meaning of life is as minute he
was born, and then I went, oh, that's what it is.
(35:33):
Got it, full hard, clear eyes, right, all of.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
A sudden, Absolutely, no, it's true. I mean, uh, all
of a sudden, you're you're you're outside of yourself. You know,
there's there's something so much bigger than than you, there's
something so much more important. And I think that's probably
you know, one of the most important keys to life
is that, is that there the target is outside of yourself.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Well, yeah, always is it.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
It always is. And when you become a parent, it's
the most tangible embodiment of that. It's the most tangible
representation of that because you know, before you become a parent,
you don't realize what you would do, what you'd sacrifice,
what you'd sacrifice, you know, right with yourself for another.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
That becomes very clear.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Yeah, I mean it first starts, at least for me personally.
I want to speak for everybody else, but that first
started the moment I got married and I become you know,
then there's that because at first it goes you, and
then and then your spouse and then your children. But man,
it is uh. And so by the way that that's
also one of the I'm thinking about. You know, what
you're describing with your son Nick being you know, nine
(36:48):
or ten years old. The story that I just shared
with you about Rocky being born on the first day
of this movie. I mean, this movie then will always
like inextricably be interwoven with him and my life and
our family in that way. I mean, there's this marker
in this in this beautiful.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
We can't tell him when he's old enough this movie.
This that scene right there that when I'm saying that
line you were being born or you were just born,
you were five minutes older, you were fifteen minutes old.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
So when you're talking about when you're talking about Nick
being nine, I'm like, I'm sure at nine I could
probably start to share that with him. I can. So
that's what I was almost envisioning for myself when you
were talking about your relationship with your son is that
I can't imagine like getting to do that at that point.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Okay, you guys, it's you have magic every day in
your life, every single day with a child. It's magic.
We're gonna do a little thing called rapid fire. Yeah,
(37:57):
we're gonna do rapid fire. We're gonna do rapid fire.
I'm just gonna ask you some questions.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
Isn't that what you've been doing? What's what's different?
Speaker 1 (38:03):
More? There's more questions, there's.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
More questions at a faster pace.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
These are these are Gilmore specific question. I'm not going
to go any faster, even though it's called rapid fire.
We don't. We don't go fast. We don't put that
kind of pressure.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
I feel like that's not in keeping with the general
Gilmore girl's aesthetic.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Though we have gone away, we have gone away from
the rapid fire aspect of the rapid fire.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
All right, So are you looking for shorter answers? Then?
Is that what could make it rapid more rapid?
Speaker 1 (38:32):
You can give any answer you want. Okay, it can
be short long, It doesn't matter to your game. Seat
belts on, Ready to go? How do you like your coffee?
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Uh cream?
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Are your team? Logan? Jess or Team Dean if you
know what that means.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Was Dean Jared Patleki. Yes, wow, I don't know how
I pulled out. Hey, fun fact, I did a I
did a pilot with Jared Padlaki, which is I think
he was the first pilot he ever did before Gilmore Girls. Really,
that was where I met him originally. Uh so, No,
I don't know that I can answer the question because
that's he's the only one I know in that three.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Gotcha? Who is your favorite Gilmore Girls couple? Luke and Lorelei,
Laane and Zach, Emily and Richard Suker or Jackson, Luke.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
And laurla thank you?
Speaker 1 (39:27):
What would you order?
Speaker 3 (39:29):
Answer?
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Luke's that that is that is It's there's no right answer.
Uh what would you order it?
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Luke's diner, Alice, you have to have the diner to
be able to I don't know. I don't know his die.
I don't know. I don't know how good at this
game I'm gonna be Scott.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
No, no, it's not a question of good or bad.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
It's just no, I mean Gilmore Girls universe.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Uh well, then Burger, I'd make I make Greg burgers
burgen Froy.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
But I'm a breakfast at that time. Oh sure, okay,
I'm a big I'm a big breakfast guy. So I
would definitely go with with like straight up classic, you know,
eggs over easy, making some super crispy hash, and maybe
even a little touch is a little indulgence, a little
(40:22):
like small ordering a French toast and or pancakes American.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Breakfast Jackson or tailor for town selectmen. No idea. I
don't have a club, all right, no idea. Would you
rather listen to hep Alien or The Troubadour's cover songs?
You don't know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 3 (40:44):
The worst rapid fire you've ever done?
Speaker 1 (40:47):
The don't rubbing your eye?
Speaker 3 (40:50):
Like?
Speaker 1 (40:50):
What? What have I gotten myself into it? I wouldn't. No,
I know you can answer this one. I know you
can answer this ready, Harvard or Yale?
Speaker 3 (40:59):
I guess I gotta go. Yale's the worst?
Speaker 1 (41:02):
Really? Why have you been? Have you attended Yale? Have
you been to Yale? Have you?
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Well? I did go to school. I went to Wesleyan,
which is also in Connecticut. R Wesleyan is in a
little town called the Middletown, and Yale's in New new
And they're just, I just, I don't know. I'm not
into yales. They're off.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
What's Rory's bigger mistake? Crashing her car her boyfriend built
for her, or sleeping with her ex who was married,
who happened to be the same person Jared.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Battleki Wait, even though I don't know the context, give
that to me again. She crashed her car.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
So Dean, So Dean built her a car. He actually
made a car for her from scratch and gave it
to her for her birthday.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
What kind of car was it?
Speaker 1 (41:52):
It's just, you know, it's like some kind of rambler whatever.
It was kind of a cool car and she crashed it.
And then when when when when he was married, he married,
he married his wife, Lindsay, but he cheated on his
wife with Rory when he was having some marriage.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
That's like far the worst thing. It's not even close.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
The the the cheating is the biggest.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
Mistake, right, not even it's not even close. I don't
even know what caused her to crash the car.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
But what if she was trying to run over Dean's wife.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
Well, that's the first question I had was how did
she crash the car?
Speaker 1 (42:39):
I don't I don't know I don't remember who from
Gilmore would you not want to be stuck on a
desert island with?
Speaker 3 (42:51):
Who would I want to not be stuck?
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Would it be Emily Gilmore? Would it be Michelle or
or would it be Taylor?
Speaker 3 (43:05):
Uh? No, I think that dude Finn.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Oh, you don't know, way you don't want to be
with Finn.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
I only say that because he was the other guy
in the scene. Oh, I don't know. He sounded uh,
I don't know. He just sounded a litt annoying to me.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
I don't know. Okay, I got you, I got you.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
Is he a popular character?
Speaker 1 (43:30):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
You're like, who's Finn?
Speaker 1 (43:33):
No? No, he he was in the Light Light and
Death Brigade and he did a couple episodes. I think
he was popular. I think he was. I mean, I don't.
I don't really know something in your life you are
all in on?
Speaker 3 (43:50):
Oh well, I mean I think the most clear obvious
answer is this is my little boy.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
There you go, Okay, all in on being a dad.
I know. It's wonderful. Jordan, thank you so much for
your time.
Speaker 3 (44:03):
Sorry listeners, for being the you know, the least Gilmore
girls knowledgeable.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
It was it was a great interview. Stop it, I mean,
you know you can, I mean no.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
I know, it's it's fun. Look at like doing that
show was again at a very like formative important point
in my career and in my life, and I remember
it clearly, and everybody I met was cool, and like
I said, seeing Maddigan recently, all of it was really special.
So forgive my lack of Gilmore Girls Universe knowledge, but
(44:35):
I do have fond, fond memories, and I'm like touched
and more than grateful that you asked me to be apart.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
All good man, great talking to you, great meeting you,
Good luck, continued success is best of Rocky and U.
Ry Richelle what yeah, didn't even say?
Speaker 3 (44:54):
Do you look? I guess everything. I guess. That's called
the Internet, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
You know it's I have this information in front of me. Maria,
that's Rochelle de Maria's name.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
It's now Belfy yes.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
But Belfie Mario Maria.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
You know it's it's a good question either way. Either way,
it's it's really There was actually a third way, which
was Damia and I remember when we met. I asked
her and she's like, whatever you whatever.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
Just kiss me, you full, just kissing. Uh. We all abust,
thank you, thank you, thank you. We had a blast.
And hope uh and everybody get out there and go
see nefarious and thanks for your time, buddy.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
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I Am all In with Scott Patterson, an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
All Right, Everybody, Scott Patterson one on one interview, I
Am All In Podcast, iHeartRadio one eleven Productions. We are
going to be talking to a Jordan Belfie, who played
the role of Jordan Chase for one episode in two
thousand and five. His only appearance was in season five,
episode eight, The Party's Over. His character was Jordan. He
was sent to talk to Rory at the party by Emily,
(00:43):
who told him that they were made for each other.
Logan and erupts them and thanks Jordan for keeping his
girl quote unquote busy. All right, A little bit about Jordan.
He was born in Los Angeles, California. He's an actor
and producer known for Entourage two thousand and four, All
American twenty eighteen, Grades Anatomy two thousand and five. He
(01:04):
has been married to Rochelle de Maria since October twenty seven,
twenty eighteen. He has a young son. And we're going
to get to know Jordan a little better. And why
don't you bring him on in? Hey Jordan, Hi, Hey,
all right, let's do it. Man. How'd you get into acting.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
How did I get into acting? Well, I started actually
when I was a kid. I was obsessed with cinema.
I was always shooting movies and wrangling all the kids
from the neighborhood. So I was always obsessed with movies
and with acting. I started doing commercials actually, you know,
when I was a kid. But I went away to
film school back east. I grew up in southern Calfin
in LA, just outside of the you know, in the
(01:46):
suburbs outside of LA. Went to New England to school
to Wesleyan University. Was a film major. There was directing
shows and performing in shows. But I was a film major.
And then when I came back, I really started my career.
I directed a your thesis film while in school that
got seen when I got back to LA, passed around,
got me picked up by the agents and managers I
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had at the time, and then I started my career wonderful.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I am. DP page says that you were a camera
production assistant on the movie Wild Wild West. Is that true?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
It's totally true. I was still in college at the time. I,
like I said, I was a film major, So I
was hustling and getting in and around anything that I could,
And I got on that movie as a in the
camera department, and I was a teenager and I was
taken in by the camera crew. It was a famous
(02:38):
director of photography named Michael Ballhaus fellows and tons of
Scorsese movies, story DP. I worked in his department. The
camera operator on that movie became like a mentor to me,
not only just a friend, but a mentor, and he
ended up shooting that that senior thesis film of mine
my senior year of college. And so I built this
(02:58):
amazing community of a film makers and friends who were
serious professionals and became mentors and it helped me generate
a start to my career. But yes, it's totally true.
And will Smith was very kind to me at the
at the time I was. Again, I can't say that
he did, but it.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Was, it was.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
It was a really formative point for me in terms
of being around it was. It was the biggest of
the big in terms of studio movies, and I was
a teenager and I was right next to camera the
whole time, and I took in all of it and
it really affected me, affected what I wanted to do,
(03:40):
but also the way in which I was going to
go about doing it. I absorbed everything I could from,
you know, the guys that were doing it at the
highest levels, and so I was really lucky and really
fortunate to be in that position and then to uh
to take it all in.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Yeah, I mean watching a guy like Ballhause jeez, yeah, yeah, deep,
He's always got me very excited. If you knew that
it was a top guy and you're going to be
working with a top guy, then everybody just kind of
sat back and let him light and let him do
his thing.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
And although I will say, I don't want to talk
out of school, because again I was I was just
a camera assistant on that. But a guy named Barry
Soenfeld was directing that who famously, you know, made Men
in Black, you know, with and movies I loved, like
Get Shorty and things like that. But he I could
(04:34):
even tell, and again I don't want to talk out
of school, but I could even tell at that point
that he and his style and Michael Bauhaus's style didn't
really mesh. Oh no, And unfortunately, I think it's sort
of like resulted in a movie that really wasn't what
it could have been. But in terms of the people
(04:57):
and the experience for me personally.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
But I mean, but Unfeld picked him or did the
studio just say you're working with Balhausen.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
I can't. I don't know enough to be able to
say say.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
They must have sat down. I mean they spend all
of that time in pre production together, you know, mapping
out shots and locations they were together.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Yeah, But you know, as with anything in any kind
of collaborative art form, sometimes you know, it isn't until
you're in the thick of it that you know you
either you either line up or you don't.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
I know what happened. I Will Smith started just unloading
on both of them, right, he was just slapping people
all over the place. Right.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
It isn't true, but funny, funny thought nonetheless. But yeah,
I mean that's why I think, even in my own career,
in my own life, when you find people that you
work with that you just that spark happens. It's a
sort of difficult thing to describe to people outside of it.
But there's an electricity, there's a sort of ineffable, you know,
ethereal connection that can happen that becomes a electric and
(06:00):
profound And when you find that in somebody that you're
working with, you want to work with that person over
and over again. It's why you see you know, you
know DiCaprio and Scorsese or any of these teams, or
the movie after movie after movie. You just want to
keep working.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
With those I found that several times. But it was
always with the craft service food I found.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
But equally equally is important.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Amazing. What do you remember about your role on Gilmore Girls?
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Yeah, so when you guys reached out about this, it
was it was going a minute.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Did you even remember being on this ship?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Oh? No, I know. I will say, I'm not going
to pretend that I don't remember. You know, you try
to think that, oh, I'm way past that, you know. No,
I remember everything and everything I've ever done, and I
remember almost everybody I've I've ever worked with. That's the
way my mind works, and that's the way my heart works.
But uh, what what do I remember about it? I remember,
(07:04):
I remember auditioning for it. I remember in the room
it was a very specific thing that they said, uh
that we talked fast on this show, and that's just
the way we do it. I remember even in the
audition them telling it. It was just sort of a thing.
I think they said to any actor, any performance coming through,
this is our this is the world, this is how
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we we operate. And it was very clear from moment
one that that's how they operated. The other things I remember,
I don't know how much detail you want, but.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
I want it all, man, give it to everything.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Oh god, man. I remember that that they were very
into for characters like like you know that came through
for an episode like mine. They were very into using
your own name the name of the character. There was
something about that that I think that they thought that
gave us sort of some extra little authenticity, something little
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icing on the cake.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Well, they didn't have to clear it.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
That might be a practical legal reason that I'm not
aware of, but I'm going with the artistic side. But
you might be right. I'm trying to give the creators
and the and and the writers.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
That is what I do. I ruin it. I ruin it.
I just I just I'm.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Sure all the magic and mystery.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
I just keep my mouth shut. I'd be I'd be
a lot better off now.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Scott, It's cool. I actually I believe I believe it.
I believe that characters like that they.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
It's not cool. I gotta stop rowing and stuff. Man,
No it is. It's an amazing detail. It's fraught with
artistic integrity. You used your own name.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
I didn't use my own name. They changed the name
of the character. What a twist, I mean for all
of it. Man, the character this I couldn't tell you.
I don't remember what the character was named. Prior to me,
it was something Chase, but they changed it. I showed up,
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I got the script, and all of a sudden it
was Jordan Chase and some of the other things I remember.
I remember very distinctly waiting probably twelve hours to shoot.
It was one of those things where I remember sitting
in the trailer whatever schedule. The schedules like that happen
all the.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Time, and you probably got the call from the you know, saying, hey,
you know, we're just about to get to your scene.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
You need to come back now correctly.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Then you're there all day.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
The reason I remember that, Scott is because I know
I'm from LA but my entire childhood and life I've
been a Boston Red Sox fan. This was two thousand
and four. This was October of two thousand and four.
I remember it very specifically, this.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Is when they is this the first time they won
it in a long time? Right?
Speaker 3 (09:51):
This was the year that the one and while we
were shooting Gilmore Girls, the alcs between famously between the
Red Sox and the Yankees where they were down three
games to zero and then came back in one fourth
straight in this miracle thing to beat the Yankees in
order to go the World Series. And the reason I
mentioned that is because I remember during those twelve hours
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that I was waiting at the end of the night,
I sat in my trailer and I watched the Red
Sox lose one of those three games to the Yankees,
and it burned in my mind. And then when they
finally called, I went and shot that's that's stuff and
Gilmore Girls.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
So you're borrowing from your own life and bringing it
into the work.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Borrowing something interesting.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
From Jordan with the loss, the baseball loss.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
It's true because in that scene I am I am
totally rejected.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
I do lose because I remember watching the episode and
I remember seeing you, and I said, this guy is
rising above some serious pain. Now I know what it is.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
I could tell the sarcasms a little thing, A dare
you diminish that role. No. I And again, I don't
know if this is interesting to you or your your audience,
your listeners. But the other reason I remember that time
so specifically is because that two thousand and four, as
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long ago as that was, it seems like a lifetime ago.
It was actually a very transfer. Well, it was kind
of an inflection point in my career because that was
also the same year that I started on Entourage. Ah,
and that changed my career.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Oh sure, So what was the part like on Entourage?
What did you do on Entourage?
Speaker 3 (11:38):
I played this character named Adam Davies. I was an agent.
I started out as Johnny Drama Kevin Dillon's character, his agent,
and then I grew to become a nemesis to Ari
Gold and Jerem Pimmon's character. And so I did it
for six years. But that year, the first was the
first episode that I did, And it was supposed to
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only be one episode originally, but it just it became
something that grew. Deug Gallon, the creator kept writing me
in and it just became this this character on the show.
But that was the same time I was doing this
this Gilmore Girls, and so it's burned into my memory
for that reason as well, was that it was one
of those as an actor, you remember those moments in
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your career. There are these like points along that that
graph that you're like, that's when that happened and that changed.
It was that.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
So what do you remember about filming with with Matt
Zukri and Alexis Bledel.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
You know what's funny is that I just worked.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
With Matt no on The Resident The Residence.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
I just and we talked about it and it's it
was it's one of these things about this this business,
and it's a beautiful thing actually that you know, in effect,
it's a very very small business. It's a small world,
but it's an infinitely smaller business. And you know the
fact that you could circle back with somebody and reunite
and work again, you know, seventeen eighteen years later or
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whatever it is, is remarkable and it's you know, it's
it's super fun. I mean I didn't I got to
be honest, I didn't get to necessarily know them super well,
you know, from coming in and doing an episode. But
everyone was cool. I mean it was fun. And you know,
for anyone that's listening that doesn't know what we're referring to.
What I remember is that it's basically this party, and
(13:31):
I'm hitting on Rory. Is it? It's work. I've been asked
to go up by you know that she's you know,
maybe available, or at least that's what I've been told,
and I go hit on her.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
And as as a young man would, as.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
A young upstanding man would.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
I don't invited to the party for that very purpose.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
So so Matt, you know, in the scene, Matt slides
in and save her from from me. As I write,
so we're big.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
We're big Matt fans here at the podcast. We adore,
we adore Maddie.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
He's a nice guy.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Oh, he's a terrific, terrific guy.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Yeah, and I will. And you know, I think a
lot of times because I've you know, I've guested and
recurred on many, many, many many shows, and you're in
an interesting position when you're coming in to do an
episode or two or three, or do an arc on
a show like that, because you're essentially a guest in
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someone else's house. And in a way I've been told,
you know, I don't think about it this way, but
in a lot of ways, it's actually a more difficult
position to be in.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
I agree, I do it. I agree with that you have.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
To just sort of drop in to an already established.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
World, especially that show.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Especially that show, but an already established universe that has
its own rules, its own tone, it's its own rhythms.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
You weren't allowed to look at anybody, right, those signs
were up, don't You're.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Not allowed to look at Mad or you know, or
Alexus in the eye. I mean, those things color it.
But but you have to drop in and operate in
this way that like it's seamless with with a world
that's already established that you have no ramp up to
ease into, and so you've got to drop in and
be there. Yeah, in a way like doing a role
like that on Gilmore Girls. I mean it's, uh, you
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just got to kind of you've got to execute. You
got to drop in and be there.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Did you rehearse? Did you rehearse your scene? A ton
of times? That way?
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Oh? Personally or personally with or with with the Mad
and a Lexus?
Speaker 1 (15:44):
No, I mean your like the Night Course, I mean, of.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Course, I mean you you know, you do all your
own work, and a lot of that, particularly because I'm
probably not telling you anything you don't already know, or
most of your audience doesn't already know. But the speed
of television there is zero rehearsal and so.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Really well known. Well for that, I guess that kind
of a scene they didn't they didn't they didn't rehearse
the scene.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Not just not just that kind of scene, any scene.
I mean you And what by I mean zero rehearsal.
You might do it a take or a rehearsal take
or to just to sort of you know, stage it
for for you know, the director and the crew and
they see you know your position and stuff.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Yeah, well they have to do it for camera to
get focused focused us.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
You run it. You run it once or twice for
those reasons, sort of practical reason and sometimes you know,
for you to find it for a second. But you
don't have time to work it and make discoveries. And
really you're expected and and as you should be, you know,
to to be ready to go and turn it on
and execute, and television and and a lot of movies,
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you don't have time for that. You you got to
be a pro and show up. And so even more
so with a scene like this, like we're not going
to rehearse, rehearse, it's like you're gonna be brought in,
You're going to drop in, You're do it once for
camera and for Marx, and then you're gonna shoot. Yeah,
particularly when they're running as far behind as they were
that night, right exactly.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah, You poor guys have to pay the price every
time with those big setups, in those big party scenes
they take forever.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
It's a small it's a small price to pay for
that price.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah. So when you're out in the in the real
world outside of the Hollywood bubble, are you recognized for
the Gilmore girl role? Are you recognized for the Entourage role?
What do you recognize for?
Speaker 3 (17:42):
There are a handful, you know. Again I say this humbly,
and you know, out of complete uh gratitude for people,
you know, having appreciation for your work. It's not too
or anything like that. But yes, there are. There are
a handful of roles that I've had the wildly good
fortune to play. The people love that. People watch over
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and over again and recognize me for when I'm out
and about. Probably, you know, the the biggest one is
Entourage because it has that show, you know, although it's
been off the air for a number of years now.
The fandom around that show and the way it was
a kind of again it started in two thousand and four.
(18:29):
HBO was the prestige game in town. It was no streaming.
HBO Sunday Nights was sacrocick. It was the prestigious night
of television. In fact, remember the whole thing HBO. It's
not TV, you know, it's HBO.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Right.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
It was that era of like just you know, Sopranos
was still on, but you know, Sex and the City
and then Entourage came. It was like zeitgeist stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Right, they're using swear words.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Wow. Yeah, But I can't tell you how many people
love come up to me quote my own lines back
at me, want to talk about it, or tell me
about how they moved to La because of that show,
or they wanted to get into the entertainment business because
of what they saw on Enturage or whatever it was.
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It was a lot of people's window kind of lyriistic
jokes on Yeah, it is really true. But you know
it's also interesting, Scott, is that when you look enough,
time passes because La itself was sort of almost another
character within the show, because it was all about Los
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Angeles and it was all shot on location in and
around Los Angeles. What's amazing is when you look at
the show, now, how much of a kind of time
capsule for Los Angeles the show because unfortunately, how La
What La is sort of what's happened in La in
the past handful of years and you look back on
entraage and you see it glaringly. But anyway, to finished
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answer your question, Entourage and I start in, you know,
in a Hallmark you know rom com, a kind of
you know holiday Hallmark movie. Oh really, for whatever reason,
I you know, I start in this movie. People, it's
one of the most popular Hallmark movies.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Of all time, no kidding? Who is who is your
co star? Who is the female?
Speaker 3 (20:17):
A woman named Katrina Law? Okay, Katrina is now on NCIS,
but they they play it every single holiday season for
ten years. It is remarkable. And what's what's special about that?
And I'm not diminishing that genre at all, because it's
is that it because it airs every year, and it's
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part of it's become a part of people's holiday traditions.
You're in their homes. You're not just in their homes,
but you're in their homes during the period that they're
most kind of with their family in that kind of
cozy place. So for for my movie, for that movie
to be a part of people's tradition and their family
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time in that way, it's a really special People love
it and you know you can't help, but just you know,
be grateful for being able to be a part of that,
you know, be a part of people's lives in that way.
So those are probably the two things off the top
of my head that people recognize me the most out
and about.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Got right right of course. So you played opposite Jeremy Piven.
Did you get to work with him during you know,
during your scenes or did you shoot your scenes separately?
What was it like working What was it like working
with him? Because I know he's a he's I don't
know him, okay, but I was around him a little
(21:39):
bit at one point the I don't know, twenty years ago.
He's a very intense guy, right did you find him
to be? And he's a very good actor, ya, So
what tell us about that experience? Did you bring your bongos.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Bring my bonds?
Speaker 1 (22:00):
He's a big into drumming?
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Oh is he? I will? I will admit I didn't
know that, right. Uh, he's a very good actor, and
he brings he brings a lot of originality and instinctiveness
and energy and force to the role, and specifically that role.
I think I think everyone once in a while, every
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once in a great while. I mean, in fact, I
think if it happens once, maybe twice in your career,
that you as a performer, as who you are and
a particular character just aligns so much that it sparks
why and if you and you know, a lot of
people spend their whole careers searching for that that role.
(22:46):
It just it's And the thing is is that there's
a good deal of it that's outside of your control, because.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
You find that most of the time that role finds you.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
It's a good question, you know what I mean. I
do know what you mean. I'll give you an example.
I'm in I'm starring in a movie right now that's
in theaters. It's been in theaters for the past this
is the seventh weekend. It's the latest film that I'm
called Nefarious. It's me and Sean Patrick Flannering came.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Oh, I know Sean.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Yeah, he's a terrific Yeah, and a really like a
really solid good guy. And the movie is essentially what
they call a two hander. It's really just a two
person movie. So it's just me and Sean for almost
the entirety of the film, which is insanely rare, incredibly unique,
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and you just don't see movies like that anymore. And
there's it's really about performance and and and because so
who you're acting opposite is everything that that role is
one of the you know, one of the best juiciest, delicious,
rich complex roles that I've ever had the opportunity to play.
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It's you know, and and also being released to theaters
as it is and being as successful as it is,
it's like had this insane run. I mean, the number
of variables that have to come together for all that
to happen is lightning in a bottle that most of
which you can't control. But to your point, how that
movie came to me, I'll still never.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Really know, because you're in the game.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
You're in the game.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
You're in the game, You're you're you're you're slugging it
out every day, and you know, a lot of days
you're getting beat up real bad, and then you just
you know, you you stay in the game. You stay,
you keep punching, and stuff is going to happen. You know.
It's for me, it's always been a marathon, you know.
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And it's just like the longer you stay in it
a the better you're going to get at auditioning, the
more your name's going to get out there, the more
work you're going to get come in your way, and
the more people in your category are going to retire
for one reason or another. And it's just.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
It's just just wait it out. I think I think
that there is a huge amount that that that is
dead on.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
That is, yeah, it keeps you keep you stay in
the game. It's you don't have to be relevant, you know.
It's like it's hard to be it's hard to become
relevant and then stay relevant, you know. But it's like
if you're in the game and you're like, hey, I'm here,
you know, I'm I'm auditioning, and I'm like I'm out
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there and I'm available and I'm working. I want to work.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
I think that's I think that's totally.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
It's the mindset. It's it's like it's your mental toughness
to hang in there, you know, I think.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
But also as you said one of the important components
is that you know, you never stop working, and so
you're you're also always refining your craft and building that
experience and having that, you know, sort of the wake
of all those roles stay with you, and you bring
that to everything that you do. I mean, that's the
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thing that people underestimate about not just acting, but probably
any craft, is that you're not just hiring that person
for that job. You're hiring that person also for essentially
every other job they've ever done, because all of that experience,
all of that how much they're known for all those
other roles, but all of those other roles that they've
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done are a part of what their craft is and
what they're bringing to now this new role that you're
hiring them for. And I definitely think that's true for me,
and everything that you just said is true for how
I've built my career. It's been a total marathon. I mean,
we're talking about me starting on Entourage. That was in
two thousand and four, that's almost twenty years ago, and
I've never stopped. And so you're right, like, this role
(26:56):
in Nefarious is the name of the movie. I didn't
audition for it, came to me, and just on a
personal note, you know, I've shared this in some of
the press and stuff I've done for that movie. But
when that movie came to me, I had to make
a decision. And my wife was nine and a half
months pregnant.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
This was gonna be my next question.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
So I had to make a decision because I knew
that if I took that movie, I was almost guaranteed
to miss the birth of my first born, and in fact,
I did miss the birth of my firstborn son, not
just my firstborn son, my first born and so he
was born, as I shared, on day one of shooting.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
That movie, and you were out of town.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
I was out of town.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
How far away were you.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
In Oklahoma City?
Speaker 1 (27:48):
You're in Oklahoma and she was here in La.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
I went to bed. She went into labor the night
before day one of that movie, a movie in which
I was in every moment of the entire movie. So
like I was describing a two person movie, it was
this massive endeavor that lay before me that I was
about to embark on. And the night before starting that
my wife went into labor. So I went to bed
that night, knowing I was starting the movie in the morning,
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and my wife was in labor. I got up in
the morning. I went to set, which was this real
penitentiary where we were shooting at. I went through hair
and makeup, I got to my trailer, I got into wardrobe,
and I got the text from my mother in law,
her mom, that he had just been born. And I
facetimed and my little boy, and again.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
This is my first Did you cry?
Speaker 3 (28:35):
I was trying not to because I was in makeup,
but it was impossible not to. I mean, I'm looking
at I'm facetiming. He's ninety seconds old. He's on my
wife's chest and I'm looking at him. And as cliche
as I'm sure it sounds to anybody that doesn't have kids,
it really is this out of body moment and I'm
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looking at this being and he's an alien, but he's
also and I'm having that moment. And then right in
that moment, Knock Knock Jordan were ready, and so I
had to hang up and want to go do the
first shot of the movie.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
And what was do you remember? You you remember the
scene that you had to do?
Speaker 3 (29:18):
It was it wasn't it wasn't an intense thing. It
was this driving scene, but I went, but nobody knew,
nobody on the movie right now.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
You don't wanna, You don't want to tell them like, hey,
I'm gonna I just my you know. And then well
the other thing is the producers like, hey, you know,
why did you do that? You're causing all these delays,
it's costing all this money.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
I think it was mostly because they probably were would
have been horrified that I would just leave and just
take off, and that they couldn't probably tell me no,
because you know, and and I'm sure there's probably a
lot of people that understandably would have just said, I'm
out of here. I gotta go.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
That's a tough call because you know, it's like that's
long term security for your family, and that job is
definitely some security, but you don't know what that job
is gonna lead to, could lead to much bigger and
better things.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Never know. And that's, by the way, and that wasn't
the only thing. It's not like I did. It's not
like I told my wife this is what I'm doing.
No matter what you think, I'm leaving.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Don't care. You go have your baby. I'm gonna go
do my acting career.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
No, we we you know, this was a this was
a deep intimate decision that we came to together and
we decided as a family it was best for us
and best for our family, like you just said, long term,
and so I have every intention of being there the
next time.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
You know, it's it's a it's a tough it's just
such a tough call, but you gotta do you know,
you gotta do the right thing for the family. You
can't be wrong in that situation. If you're there, that's
the right decision. If you're not there and you do
the movie, and that's the right decision too. So it's
like there's both decisions are correct because you'll.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Never know, you'll never know what Domino's like will be
set in motion from as a result of each position.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
No, no, seriously, and they could be great movies and
they could be you know, could be good for everybody.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Your hundred sent Okay, I'll share one little thing if
you're interested, one other little part of that which feeds
into what you just said for me personally, and again
you can some of it, I know are things that
we when we say we see signs, you know, I
know that there's probably an argument to be made. It's
it's about what we want to see or what we're
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projecting onto it or the rest. But I will say
that this one story that I have shared with with
certain people. My son's name is Rocky. That's what we
named him. And we had already named him, you know,
by the time I left for Oklahoma City. And I
got to Oklahoma City, which is a city I'd never been,
and I was staying in a hotel I didn't choose,
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but I got there on that Sunday night. He was
born that Wednesday. But I got there that Sunday night
and I got to my hotel and I got up
to the room and I was I remember thinking I
was torn up about about it. And I remember getting
to the room and I was standing there, I was alone,
and I said to myself, what the hell am I doing?
What am I doing? I'm in Oklahoma City. My wife
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is two thousand miles away, you know, about to give birth.
What what am I doing? This is crazy? And so,
you know, I was feeling that, and I was like,
you know what, I'm just going to go for a walk.
I'm just gonna I'm just gonna clear my head. I'm
just gonna go for a walk. I put my bag down,
I walked out of the hotel. I turned right. I
walked a block and I looked up and there was
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a gigantic sign that said Rocky right next to where
I was staying. A literal sign. Obviously the figure it
out expected self explanatory, but a literal sign. I've never
seen a sign that says that says Rocky. It it
was a venue. It was like a bar, you know,
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you know, music venue kind of thing. And I you
have this moment where I remember thinking, okay, I'm maybe
it's okay, it's okay. Then Scott I go to set
and my stunt coordinator on the movie, Sylvester Stallone's double
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like twenty years who did the movies? Impossible just impossible,
And I remember thinking, whatever you believe, whatever you believe in, okay,
it's okay that I'm here. And it gave me a
certain sense of peace that I was that it was
okay at least for me.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Amazing, Yeah, what are you working on Now's? First of all,
how old is Rocky now?
Speaker 3 (33:58):
He is now seventeen months, He's.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Just seventeen months. He's still a little little nut guy.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
He's uh, he and he's I mean, you have I
have any kids.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Yet, I just have I just have Nick. He's he's
going to be nine years old early June.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
So you have a little boy. I mean you can
remember if you remember that far back. I'm sure you do.
Although everybody says the same thing to the point where
you're like, yay, I get it that. You know, everyone
says enjoyed, it goes.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Fast, enjoyed it goes It really does.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
But I know, and you hear it and you know
it intellectually and you're like, yeah, yeah, I get it,
and then it's totally true. Right.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
But you know, he's when he starts getting older, like
he just starts getting six, seven, eight, you know, and
you're gonna have full on conversations with him, and man,
you're gonna think back and like, God, it just seems
like yesterday he was this. It's just this cute little
bundle of you know, and it's just it blows your mind. Yeah,
(34:58):
it goes fast. It's almost the decade, and I just
it seems like it just happened.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Yeah, I'm already feeling that he's only eighteen months old.
I can't even imagine when when he's nine and I
can have full on conversations.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Oh yeah, it's it's amazing, it's it's it's a mirror
every single day is And I've said this before. You know,
people and and and they can they can have their
own definitions about what the meaning of life is. I
discovered what the meaning of life is as minute he
was born, and then I went, oh, that's what it is.
(35:33):
Got it, full hard, clear eyes, right, all of.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
A sudden, Absolutely, no, it's true. I mean, uh, all
of a sudden, you're you're you're outside of yourself. You know,
there's there's something so much bigger than than you, there's
something so much more important. And I think that's probably
you know, one of the most important keys to life
is that, is that there the target is outside of yourself.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Well, yeah, always is it.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
It always is. And when you become a parent, it's
the most tangible embodiment of that. It's the most tangible
representation of that because you know, before you become a parent,
you don't realize what you would do, what you'd sacrifice,
what you'd sacrifice, you know, right with yourself for another.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
That becomes very clear.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Yeah, I mean it first starts, at least for me personally.
I want to speak for everybody else, but that first
started the moment I got married and I become you know,
then there's that because at first it goes you, and
then and then your spouse and then your children. But man,
it is uh. And so by the way that that's
also one of the I'm thinking about. You know, what
you're describing with your son Nick being you know, nine
(36:48):
or ten years old. The story that I just shared
with you about Rocky being born on the first day
of this movie. I mean, this movie then will always
like inextricably be interwoven with him and my life and
our family in that way. I mean, there's this marker
in this in this beautiful.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
We can't tell him when he's old enough this movie.
This that scene right there that when I'm saying that
line you were being born or you were just born,
you were five minutes older, you were fifteen minutes old.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
So when you're talking about when you're talking about Nick
being nine, I'm like, I'm sure at nine I could
probably start to share that with him. I can. So
that's what I was almost envisioning for myself when you
were talking about your relationship with your son is that
I can't imagine like getting to do that at that point.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Okay, you guys, it's you have magic every day in
your life, every single day with a child. It's magic.
We're gonna do a little thing called rapid fire. Yeah,
(37:57):
we're gonna do rapid fire. We're gonna do rapid fire.
I'm just gonna ask you some questions.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
Isn't that what you've been doing? What's what's different?
Speaker 1 (38:03):
More? There's more questions, there's.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
More questions at a faster pace.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
These are these are Gilmore specific question. I'm not going
to go any faster, even though it's called rapid fire.
We don't. We don't go fast. We don't put that
kind of pressure.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
I feel like that's not in keeping with the general
Gilmore girl's aesthetic.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Though we have gone away, we have gone away from
the rapid fire aspect of the rapid fire.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
All right, So are you looking for shorter answers? Then?
Is that what could make it rapid more rapid?
Speaker 1 (38:32):
You can give any answer you want. Okay, it can
be short long, It doesn't matter to your game. Seat
belts on, Ready to go? How do you like your coffee?
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Uh cream?
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Are your team? Logan? Jess or Team Dean if you
know what that means.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Was Dean Jared Patleki. Yes, wow, I don't know how
I pulled out. Hey, fun fact, I did a I
did a pilot with Jared Padlaki, which is I think
he was the first pilot he ever did before Gilmore Girls. Really,
that was where I met him originally. Uh so, No,
I don't know that I can answer the question because
that's he's the only one I know in that three.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Gotcha? Who is your favorite Gilmore Girls couple? Luke and Lorelei,
Laane and Zach, Emily and Richard Suker or Jackson, Luke.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
And laurla thank you?
Speaker 1 (39:27):
What would you order?
Speaker 3 (39:29):
Answer?
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Luke's that that is that is It's there's no right answer.
Uh what would you order it?
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Luke's diner, Alice, you have to have the diner to
be able to I don't know. I don't know his die.
I don't know. I don't know how good at this
game I'm gonna be Scott.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
No, no, it's not a question of good or bad.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
It's just no, I mean Gilmore Girls universe.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Uh well, then Burger, I'd make I make Greg burgers
burgen Froy.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
But I'm a breakfast at that time. Oh sure, okay,
I'm a big I'm a big breakfast guy. So I
would definitely go with with like straight up classic, you know,
eggs over easy, making some super crispy hash, and maybe
even a little touch is a little indulgence, a little
(40:22):
like small ordering a French toast and or pancakes American.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Breakfast Jackson or tailor for town selectmen. No idea. I
don't have a club, all right, no idea. Would you
rather listen to hep Alien or The Troubadour's cover songs?
You don't know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 3 (40:44):
The worst rapid fire you've ever done?
Speaker 1 (40:47):
The don't rubbing your eye?
Speaker 3 (40:50):
Like?
Speaker 1 (40:50):
What? What have I gotten myself into it? I wouldn't. No,
I know you can answer this one. I know you
can answer this ready, Harvard or Yale?
Speaker 3 (40:59):
I guess I gotta go. Yale's the worst?
Speaker 1 (41:02):
Really? Why have you been? Have you attended Yale? Have
you been to Yale? Have you?
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Well? I did go to school. I went to Wesleyan,
which is also in Connecticut. R Wesleyan is in a
little town called the Middletown, and Yale's in New new
And they're just, I just, I don't know. I'm not
into yales. They're off.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
What's Rory's bigger mistake? Crashing her car her boyfriend built
for her, or sleeping with her ex who was married,
who happened to be the same person Jared.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Battleki Wait, even though I don't know the context, give
that to me again. She crashed her car.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
So Dean, So Dean built her a car. He actually
made a car for her from scratch and gave it
to her for her birthday.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
What kind of car was it?
Speaker 1 (41:52):
It's just, you know, it's like some kind of rambler whatever.
It was kind of a cool car and she crashed it.
And then when when when when he was married, he married,
he married his wife, Lindsay, but he cheated on his
wife with Rory when he was having some marriage.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
That's like far the worst thing. It's not even close.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
The the the cheating is the biggest.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
Mistake, right, not even it's not even close. I don't
even know what caused her to crash the car.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
But what if she was trying to run over Dean's wife.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
Well, that's the first question I had was how did
she crash the car?
Speaker 1 (42:39):
I don't I don't know I don't remember who from
Gilmore would you not want to be stuck on a
desert island with?
Speaker 3 (42:51):
Who would I want to not be stuck?
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Would it be Emily Gilmore? Would it be Michelle or
or would it be Taylor?
Speaker 3 (43:05):
Uh? No, I think that dude Finn.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Oh, you don't know, way you don't want to be
with Finn.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
I only say that because he was the other guy
in the scene. Oh, I don't know. He sounded uh,
I don't know. He just sounded a litt annoying to me.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
I don't know. Okay, I got you, I got you.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
Is he a popular character?
Speaker 1 (43:30):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
You're like, who's Finn?
Speaker 1 (43:33):
No? No, he he was in the Light Light and
Death Brigade and he did a couple episodes. I think
he was popular. I think he was. I mean, I don't.
I don't really know something in your life you are
all in on?
Speaker 3 (43:50):
Oh well, I mean I think the most clear obvious
answer is this is my little boy.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
There you go, Okay, all in on being a dad.
I know. It's wonderful. Jordan, thank you so much for
your time.
Speaker 3 (44:03):
Sorry listeners, for being the you know, the least Gilmore
girls knowledgeable.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
It was it was a great interview. Stop it, I mean,
you know you can, I mean no.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
I know, it's it's fun. Look at like doing that
show was again at a very like formative important point
in my career and in my life, and I remember
it clearly, and everybody I met was cool, and like
I said, seeing Maddigan recently, all of it was really special.
So forgive my lack of Gilmore Girls Universe knowledge, but
(44:35):
I do have fond, fond memories, and I'm like touched
and more than grateful that you asked me to be apart.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
All good man, great talking to you, great meeting you,
Good luck, continued success is best of Rocky and U.
Ry Richelle what yeah, didn't even say?
Speaker 3 (44:54):
Do you look? I guess everything. I guess. That's called
the Internet, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
You know it's I have this information in front of me. Maria,
that's Rochelle de Maria's name.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
It's now Belfy yes.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
But Belfie Mario Maria.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
You know it's it's a good question either way. Either way,
it's it's really There was actually a third way, which
was Damia and I remember when we met. I asked
her and she's like, whatever you whatever.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
Just kiss me, you full, just kissing. Uh. We all abust,
thank you, thank you, thank you. We had a blast.
And hope uh and everybody get out there and go
see nefarious and thanks for your time, buddy.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
All right, man, hey everybody, and don't forget follow us
(46:08):
on Instagram at I Am all In podcast and email
us at Gilmore at iHeartRadio dot com.
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