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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I am all in, kiss you, I am all in
with Scott Patterson and I heart radio podcast. Hey everybody, Hey, hey,

(00:22):
hey Scott Patterson. Here, I'm here with Riley pelusis Amy Sugarman.
We are launching episode number two, a mini so miniso
number two of Riley's new gig. I hope this doesn't
take her away from us, because she's never going to
get away from us. No no, no no, no no. But

(00:45):
she has created this opportunity for herself and it's panning
out of the time according to the emails. So we're
gonna do another episode because we love it so much.
Uh pop culture and uh this is the season two
episode fourteen. It should have been Laurel I pop Culture.

(01:09):
Riley Pelusis take it away, thank you so much, and
I'll take eight percent. Love a beat, solid beast, that genius.
I was always told growing up, sees get degrees, so
b is just a above that. But first, I think
we're gonna get into some fashion from you. Had some

(01:30):
fashion moments in this episode we didn't get to talk about,
including I loved Laurel lies sort of blue shirt with
the sequence she always has those cool T shirts. Remember
that from back then? I did not care for At
the end of the episode, Christopher's the next sweater with

(01:52):
no shirt. Did any did you notice where was in
the diner? Yeah? What's the leather jacket over with it? Yeah?
I just needed a shirt. No one think that right? No,
my my, my brain didn't go there. I was like,
it was jarring for me. I'm going to rewatch it.

(02:13):
I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I also love that Lorala and
she does wear this a lot to are these amazing
trousers with the black sweater and the cool belt. She
always has that look and it's like, I think, because
she's so tall, it just is so cool. So those
are my fashion moms. Thank you for letting me show um,
you know, not my jam here. I think wardrobe is important.

(02:37):
I look at it from from a technical point of view.
I really noticed Christopher's wardrobe the most because it was
so you know, he had a really nice suit on.
You know, he looked really sharp at the debate. Well yeah,
just I mean through the whole episode. So they're they're

(02:57):
they're pretty when he went to the Gilmore studio, right,
and they're projecting this idea of a successful adult male
and they did a beautiful job, because I mean I
by clothes doth make the man, don't they? I just
don't want to say it. But what was bothering me?
It's just too too much chess, too much chess. You

(03:18):
don't want you want to you don't want to see that.
You don't want to see that. I do. But for
some reason, Christopher, I was like not feeling it. I
want to see that on Logan any day. I don't
need Logan to ever wear a shirt, get you. Um.
My favorite was Loura Lies very odd pink. Yeah, what

(03:41):
dog that is? It's like a Chitsu? How do I
buy that? It was so pink dog? It was a
pink turtleneck swater with the dog. Oh my god, Riley
keep explaining, but I gotta google that, right. Yeah, it
was a high turtleneck and it's this black and white
Chitsu dog with like a pink little bow on top
of the and it's in Luke and and Luke Diner

(04:02):
when she's talking to Rory. And I just found it,
like as Amy said it before, I found it jarring
a little bit, like I would pay so much money
to wear that, and by that like one eBay, like
where is it. Oh, so good, so good. You nailed that.
Riley's that was the best thing in the whole episode.
I thought, so too. I have to I have to

(04:23):
recalibrate this for myself. Ben Roethlisberger just retired from the
Pittsburgh Steelers. Anyway, I'm good, alright, go ahead, rock Oh,
I have no idea who that it's pop culture? Bring
it in? Yeah, all right, let should we get We'll
get into pop culture. Let's do it. I loved it.
There wasn't very many old timey references in this episode,

(04:45):
so we're getting there. Either that or I'm getting older
by the minute. So first we have Rory talked at
or Lie about her dinner with Emily, and Rory says, well,
what did you well, what did she think? They were?
Just come in and find a rabbit boiling on this
We've mentioned Fatal Attraction before on this podcast. In season one,
episode fourteen, in the climactic scene of the movie Fatal Attraction,

(05:08):
Michael Douglas's character comes home to find that his stalker,
played by Glenn Close was has killed the children's pet
rabbit and left it in a point pot of boiling
water over the kitchen stove. It's really gross. It's so gross. Um,
how do you First of all, how do you cheat

(05:29):
on an archer? I know, but I mean was sassy
in that? But Glenn Close was like very I get it.
But also but it's an archer. Look, how do you
cheat on an archer? Preach? I get it. How does

(05:50):
Beyonce get cheated on? It's all these people? She go,
what's what's the allegation? The the girl with the hair?
What was that with the good hair? You don't know?
Ben Roethlisberger retired? What that's that's my that's the limit

(06:12):
to my pop culture universe. We're really bridging the gap
eighteen years of throwing pigskin inside of stadiums better than most,
and now you're bringing back fatal attraction right what with
c W icon Josh Jackson, Joshua jameson Pasty as a
film a series like a shot to be different? But

(06:37):
yet I know Josh Jackson is his name Joshua Jackson
or Josh Jackson ja Jackson? Yeah, pacy to me, how
do you cheat on an archer? How do you do?
Because if you I mean, if you don't cheat on
an archer, you don't have a film. I mean, how
does how does Michael Douglas Close? She I mean, I

(07:00):
get it, get it. Glenn Close scared the crap out
of me in that film. She was the whole point.
What's also helped me out here. How do you cheat
on an archer in Fatal Attraction? How do you do that?
And and she with somebody who's who's like frightening from

(07:21):
the first moment. You just don't do it, then then
you don't have the great film. But it's my question
of the day. Do you hear about Roelisberger? He retired
aftery teen years, big sweaters and all kinds of stuff
being discussed here, Riley, keep it going. We're also talking
about Becky with a good hair, so we're just had

(07:42):
no idea. Becky with the good hair. Just keep going.
Explain the world to Scott. Don't you can't put baby
in a corner. Going back to how creepy Glenn Close was.
She still has a knife she used in the movie
hanging in her kids chin sating. It's beautiful, made of
wooden paper. It's a work of art and it's nice

(08:04):
for our guests to see it. It lets them know
they can't they can't stay forever. How creepy is that?
Human sexuality is just such a mystery, isn't it? It
really is. It's just it's it's what's the line, It's
a It's a mystery wrapped inside a riddle, contained within
a whatever. I don't screwed that up. Roelsisberger retired. I

(08:27):
can't believe go ahead, Riley, Sorry, Lane calls Rory at
the diner, and Luke says, hey, watch it loyalizes, Yeah,
duck Harvey loyalize, referring to the play Harvey, which was
later made into a movie starring Jimmy Stewart. Harvey is
about a man who believes he has an invisible companion, Harvey,
a six foot rabbit. Although Josephine Hole played James Stewart's

(08:49):
sister in the film, she was thirty ones years older
than him in real life. This is a bit of
an old tiny reference. Yeah, um, Rory described Sherry to
Lorely Luke's and Roy says big. Bruce Springsteen fan seeing
him like twenty times so. Bruce is an American singer, songwriter, musician.
He has released twenty studio albums, many of which feature

(09:11):
his backing band, The Street Band. After a nineteen seventy
six concert in Memphis, Springsteen went to Graceland at three
in the morning, jumped the wall and ran to the
front door. Security grabbed him before he could make it
to the door and sent him backing. And he got
his nickname the Boss while playing with a band called
Earth in the late nineteen sixties, when he was tasked

(09:33):
with collecting the band's fee from club owners club owners
and distributing it among the band afterwards. Hey that and
he was also you know, he solidified that reputation in
the studio too. How we have boss twist that Sherry
loves Bruce why unexpected? I just would never think Sherry

(09:57):
is like a big Bruce fam Yeah, but you if
you Okay, So his third it's either's third or second album,
because you know, he was discovered by the guy who
who originally signed Bob Dylan a legend, I don't know,
Columbia Records or something, and uh, and I thought he

(10:21):
was going to be the next Bruce, was gonna be
the next big thing. And they did two albums with him,
they didn't sell, and they were going to drop him
from the label. Yeah, and then and then they did
The Wild The Innocent in the Street Shuffle, which is
to me, belongs in the top three albums of all time.

(10:42):
It is the most elegant, beautiful album. Um, the Wild
the Innocent Street Shuffle. I think it was really yeah, yeah,
we're talking Bruce. I think I'm not saying I'm not
saying you were, but I just didn't like surprise. Sherry
likes it. I mean, listen to that album and then

(11:03):
and then put on a nice dress that's super smooth
and you'll you'll feel it. That was that. It was
very good. Um, Luke Steiner's empty lor license, this this
whole thing, We're not done with Bruces. Have any of

(11:24):
you have seen Bruce? Yeah, I've seen Bruce live twice.
I saw him in live in nine at the Spectrum
in Philadelphia. Bruce when the Staples Center opened, and it's
not even the Staples Center anymore. I think it's like
the Bitcoin Center now. But when it was became the
Staples Center where the Lakers play, Bruce was the first
concert there. And I will but now I'm feeling like

(11:47):
I'm getting that wrong. But I think I definitely went
and it was definitely the Staples Center, not the Forum.
I saw him in seventy five in Philadelphia at the
Spectrum Christmas Eve and he played for four freaking hours.
This guy, I thought, I mean it was like it
was unbelievable energy coming off that stage and those songs.

(12:09):
Oh my god. Yeah, And then I saw him working out.
I don't know, nineteen see Luke loving the Boss. I
just everybody loves the Boss. Serry more like a come on,
um New York City Serenay Journey. Maybe she loved Journey Journey.
I don't love Journey. So Lukes Diner's empty lorer Li

(12:35):
says this, this whole thing has been a little Twilight zoney,
Luke says, or Outer Limits E. So we've referenced Twilight
Zone in a previous episode, so let's talk more about
Outer Limits. Outer Limits was on from nineteen sixty five
on ABC. Many scenes in some entire episodes of the
series were filmed on location at series creator Joseph Stefano's house,

(12:56):
from which the production company took its name No or Limits.
Original was title was Please stand By, and many of
its monsters were recycled for Star Trek, which again Gilmore
Girls coming back to Star Trek next, we have a
lane calls Rory and Luke's to talk about being grounded.
Lane says, my mom's done everything but slap a Dr

(13:18):
dre Ankle bracelet on me. I absolutely loved this reference.
Dr dre A is a West Coast rapper who became
famous as part of the group and w A as
His net worth was eighty million dollars. He currently produces
record seems slow, It does seem low. He had he
had to he had a settlement with his wife. He
went through a divorce. But I figured he was over

(13:40):
a billion. He was. He was, you know, he used
to he you know, I used to go to a
gym where Dr dre went and and that guy is jacked.
He didn't have his own home gym. I'm sure he did,
but he was. He was always he was always in
the no was his home gym. And I used to

(14:01):
break up breaking and work out there. Yeah, he had
a bodyguard with him and the guy was jacked. Dr
And he's like he's like kind of older, he's not
a young dude, but he man, I thought he was.
Do we already say he's doing the super Bowl? He's
doing the Super Bowl? I don't know. He had this

(14:22):
like tiny little waist as super tight long sleeve shirt
and he's jacked. He's yeah, he's at the super Bowl.
Will there be any holograms at the super Bowl? Probably?
I don't know where's the super Bowl in l Stadium? Yeah,
he would go for a Tupac hologram part two with

(14:43):
Dr Ja. I'll do it. You know, he's the guy guy,
he's pushing some serious weights. Man, this guy. Remember when
I walked in, I thought he was a bodybuilder. Who's
this bodybuilding or the bodyguard? Drey? The guy is jacked.
He looks like a cartoon. He's so muscular. Can you

(15:06):
imagine how disappointing would be if he wasn't wearing Beat's
headphones working out? He had like a thirty year old
man walkman on he walk very's handsome. Yeah, he's very handsome.
I'm just very handsome. For god, how handsome he is?
So this referenced, Yeah he has a good good good boss.
Oh the guy is jacked. Ye, all right, so those

(15:31):
reference In Octobre pled guilty to battery of a police
officer during a Macond brawl. He served a house arrest
sentence for each charge, which required Dre wearing a police
Moderney angle bracelet. This is perfect reference and slightly in
his GND. I was there that night, Okay, I was there.
He was provoked. Sorry you were there that night. I'm

(15:53):
just kidding. Oh, I was like, Mike Drop, I'm just
trying to well, I wasn't there called a witness stand.
There's that guy in the party. I was there, that
was there. Yeah, I was saying that night, I can't

(16:14):
talk about them. I can't tell you that. Laura Lay
and Rory are watching TV and Roy says, not the
Two fal Ladies again. So The Two fal Ladies was
a BBC two television cooking show starring Clarissa Dixon Wright
and Jennifer Patterson from repeats play on the Cooking Channel
in the Food Network All the Time. Um, they were

(16:35):
a hit because they had a disdain for healthy food
and politically incorrect banter. Um. They hated vegetarians and anytime
someone said that they were vegetarians, they were acted poorly,
very sadly, and um. Paterson actually died of lung cancer
on August tenth, n one month after diagnosis. The day

(16:56):
before she died, she asked Dixon right to bring her
a tin of caviare that's what. That's what Patterson. They
mentioned that she passed away in the episode. I had
never heard of that show until I saw a clip
of it. In it should have been Laurel. She's Patterson
with one tea um Paris and Rory. Rory are chatting

(17:21):
in the hallway. Paris says, for the average Willie Nelson roady, yes,
but for a winning debate team member. As a comparison,
I speak on average of one seventy eight words per minute. So.
Willie is an American musician, actor, and activist. He wrote
his first song at the age of seven. Some of
Willie's hit songs include on the Road Again, to All
the Girls I've Loved Before, and Always on My Mind.

(17:45):
He's known for his long somethings that show her that
Willie sorry every time I hear his name. I do
that it My My wife hates it when I do that.
And I think now that you I've shared it with

(18:06):
you y'all, then you probably don't like it either. Actually say,
Willie Nelson, go ahead, I enjoyed it. Willie Nelson. That's
our new sound bit. Instead of building on my can
quite has I don't even know the lyrics. Willie is

(18:26):
a national treasure, and he's almost nine and he's still
he's still rolling Jay's baby in his bus. I think
he gets a little busted sometimes. Oh man, you know,
you gotta love a guy who at that age is
still token. He's a midnight toker. M hm. So I

(18:49):
actually saw Willie a few years and they had a
golf cart pull him up on the stage. When who
did you see Willie Nelson? Maybe over? Sorry, Laura and

(19:11):
Sherry talk in the kitchen. Laura Lie says, you mean
Martin Sheen all changed the same tree. That was funny.
Martin Sheen is American actor and known for his roles
in films such as Apocalypse Now, Amy's Favorite, The West Wing,
and The Departed. You didn't like Apocalypse Now? Did you
see a Popoca? I've seen parts. No, that's not my
bag as much as The West Wing? Oh my god.

(19:33):
I mean I love Grayce and Frankie. Don't get me wrong.
Apocalypse Now even like Martin Sheen and those like random comments.
Are you trying to tell me that's a guy film?
I mean, I know, did you have you seen it?
Riley or Danielle? Apocalypse Now? I know it's like one
of the best films ever, but I never saw I know,

(19:56):
it's like one of the best films ever. But you
know what, I've seen President Bartlett get shot no less
than fifty times. Sometimes. I just watched that scene because
it's so amazing, like tragic. But then they take him
to the hospital. He lives. President Barlett lives, and I
just love the way that they take him to the

(20:16):
hospital and the special red phone rings which means the
President is coming, and she's like, I don't have time
right now. Is this a drill? And then she hears
the sirens and she's all red red or blue blue
or whatever it is, and then everybody just goes crazy.
I mean, you got a YouTube, but it's so good.
I feel like I'm there. I'm feeling she's all red

(20:38):
and then it's just like craziness of them. Oh my gosh.
It's like amazing. Noticely done drills to prepare if the
president ever comes into the emergency room. You should be
in films. Look at you. I've seen that so many times. Um.
You know, Martin Sheen replaced I think he replaced Harvey
Kytel in Apocalypse Now Harvey Kye tell I think it

(20:59):
was alming for two months. I love a popish now
and then for some reason, uh, he had to go
home or something, and she came. She came in. Sheen
came in with actually no notice. He's just like he
got the call, he got on a plane and he goes.
Jean is eighty one, Fonda eighty four, Lily Tomlin two,

(21:21):
Sam Waterston eighty one. Those are all the Grace and
Frankie's and Jane dissed me and Beverly Hills since she
was I forgot about the Emilio Estevez is oh. In
a strange twist, Martin Sheen's son is Emilio Estevez, and
Emilio Estevez co starred in The Mighty Ducks TV show

(21:45):
with Lauren Graham. But then now Emilio Estevez is leaving
and Josh to Mel is going to be the think
Lauren Graham is still in it. Josh Dumel boom, how
about that, Josh Dumel. I love Josh to Mel, so
maybe he didn't love her mark She has been married
for sixty years, by the way, quite as often as

(22:07):
he should have. Reference Laura Lie is referring to the
fact that actor Martin Sheen has been arrested sixty three
times for protesting and is known to be a pacifist.
Wait a minute, who got arrested sixty three times, Martin Sheen?
Good god, look at that guy. That's got to be
a record. That's got to be a record. Mhmm. Lauraa

(22:32):
is asking Rory if she ever thought her of her
and Christopher being together as a family. Rory staying on
the Sheen family, Charlie, Sheen can't hit a curveball to
save his life. I just wanted to throw that. I
used to bitch batting practice. Still, oh my god, he
can't hit a curveball to save his life. No way.
He can kind of hit a fastball, but he can't
hit a curveball. Charlie, you listen. This is a reference

(22:54):
Riley to major League. I don't know that you know.
I've never I Um, Charlie, if you're listening, buddy, I
gave you every chance to hit my curveball. You were outmatched.
My friend Lorreal lies asking if she ever thought that

(23:18):
her and Christopher should be together as a family. Roy says,
I feel like I'm on the Ricky Lake Show. So
the Ricky Lake Show was a talk show airing from
two thousand and four. Studio audience participation was huge for
the talk show, and Ricky actually gave birth to her
own son, Owen and her bathtub in two thousand. What
do you mean? I saw her documentary. She did a

(23:39):
documentary where she birthed her kid, and I saw that.
Yeez Freaky also started as Tracy Turnblad in hair Spray.
Mm hm, you great, Lore lies asking Rory, same conversation,
Roy says, but I also pictured you with Pee Herman.
We lived in his playhouse and we'd be talking to
Cherry and Captain Carl would be by. I love Pee

(24:03):
Wee Herman. I love Pee. I mean I like Paul
Rubens is a nice guy, but I don't know. I
never got Peewee. I didn't get all that. That house
was so crazy. And then Laurence Fishburn on that bike.
I wasn't into it. Laurence Fishburn on on what bike?

(24:25):
I think you rode a bike to Peewee's cowboy Curtis.
Thank you, cowboy Curtis. He I don't know if there's
a bike, but that's Laurence Fishburn. So for those of
you who don't know Pee Wee Herman is a comic
fictional character created and portrayed by American act comedian actor
Paul Rubens. The child like Pee Herman character developed as

(24:47):
a stage act that quickly led to an HBO special.
Peewee's Playhouse was an Emmy Award winning children's series that
ran on CBS. From there's a picture that's Lawrence Fishburn. Yeah,
that's hysterical. Good gig man, good exposure. Pee Wee Hermann
loves his bicycle, and Paul came up with the bike

(25:08):
idea from seeing people on Warner Brothers a lot riding
around Warner Blers gifted him a refurbished swin. You know
we all, uh, we all had bikes. We had a
cruise around on Yeah, to get to the set. Yeah,
it was kind of a big deal that you got
a bike, because if I remember the first couple of
years we didn't have bikes. Are we gonna mention a
movie theater or we're gonna let that stuff we don't

(25:31):
talk about happen July one, We don't mention it. You
don't know about Pee in the movie theater. Oh, something untoward,
but he's come back from it. Maybe he didn't Danielle,
you look very serious. What's wrong? Are you annoyed at all?

(25:53):
Are you getting bad like a bad email? Are you?
Are you like like kinds of things right? Other podcasts
they're not like this getting the reviews for this episode?
How many more? Riley, I'm still in Glenn closest wooden

(26:14):
Knights in our kitchen. We should sell that in the
Eye'm all in store. You know you can't sing that
Willie Nelson song about Michael Douglas and Glenn close because
all want the pajamas. By the way, they're very expensive,
so we're trying to get some cost cutting. They're we're
working on it. Yes, we want to bring you pajamas

(26:36):
with my face on it. This is not where I
thought I'd end up in my career, but we are
offering pajamas with my face on it. How many more?
How many more? We have two more? They've got to
be good. Roy says, Oh, and later, I picture to
you Mary. Matthew Broderick and we lived in New York

(26:58):
in this great apartment in the bill it and we
would talk about Ferris Beeler's day off. Think how easy
producer's tickets would be to get so Matthew Broderick started
as Ferris Beeler in the epic six Ferris Beeler's Day Off.
In the film Cameron's father's Ferrari wasn't a real Ferrari
because it was too expensive to rent one. Three replicas
were made. Matthew also started in War Games, The Cable Guy,

(27:21):
En eighteen, The Freshman, and Election. The only person I
love as much as Laura like Gilmore is Carrie Bradshaw
and Sarah Jessica Parker is married to Matthew Broderck. This
is a wonderful, whole full circle. Boy, He's had a
great career, hasn't he. Look at these films, Look at
these great films. You're super nice people too, by the way.
You know, I would imagine imagine them being your parents.

(27:44):
I know that kind of you think I'm too old
to be like their kid? Yeah, I would maybe. Okay, Riley,
this is it, give us the last one. Sherry walks out,
Christopher sits with Laura Laelrea La says ah. Yes. The
Gilmore family players rival the barry Moris for their sophisticated

(28:05):
dramatic productions. So the Barrymore's are an American acting family
and has started with Maurice Barrymore, who was a British
stage actor, married Georgina Drew. The great granddaughter is superstar
Drew Barrymore, and Drew currently has a daytime talk show.
Laura la is referring to the Barrymores have a very
conflicted acting dynasty, who was emancipated from her family at

(28:26):
the age of not conflicted, I think conflicted to Yeah,
so that's a proper closure. Nice, Thank god it's over.
Hey call me if anyone's sane walks in. I love that.
That was a great line. Oh she went to a

(28:49):
biker party a few years ago. She never came back.
Oh yeah, also good lines giving his lines. It comes
and goes. You'll learn to notice the signs Riley. Yes,
c plus, this is this is I'll take it. Like

(29:13):
I said, sees get degrees. This will force other podcasts
to redefine their terms. This is a groundbreaking concept. Al Right, everybody,
I guess that's it. Huh, Yeah, we have to end this. Yeah,
we've got some special episodes. But what we're waiting, we're
getting ready for Lost and Found next week. Lost and Found.

(29:36):
That's the episode season two. Like that could be in
reference to the bracelet. Oh yeah that that to some
Milo found it. Yeah, he sure did, just found it.
So now we're going back to kid world. Alright, okay,
passions running deep with the kiddies. Alrighty, all right, let's

(29:58):
we're gonna we'll go. Look, it's a it's a fun
ride at whatever it is. All right, everybody, Thanks, thanks
for all your hard work and thanks for downloading. Everybody,
best fans on the planet. I'm scart Amy Sugarman. Riley
pelusis the anointed new hope of our heart right now,

(30:20):
the new star um and I am well you know who.
Stay safe, everybody. We'll see you next time. Hey, everybody,

(30:58):
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