August 10, 2023 • 35 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I Am all In. Oh, Let's kiss you.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I Am all in with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Everybody Scott Patterson, I Am all In Podcast one of
them productions iHeart Radio. One on one interview with the
one and Only Crackstaff and it's Suzanne French, who has
been in my life since twenty seventeen. She's been involved
in a lot of goings ons. She was part of
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the music tour. She has been very helpful. She's been
a really great loyal team member for these seven years
and hope it continues. She's just terrific. Her and her
husband John have been very very helpful. And I met
them through my chief assistant, Elina Spinoza, who a lot
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of you know out there because you interact with her
so often online and on my socials and all that stuff,
and there's so many of you that I had to
delegate all that stuff to them because I just there
weren't enough hours in the day. I tried to do
it in the beginning, but it means a lot that
Susanne will come on. She's a true, true, truly hard worker.
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She's got a regular job and she does this in
addition to so we really thank her. We're gonna's bring
her own Susanne French.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
It's me.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
How you been, I'm good? How you doing?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I'm good.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
So look, look, let's get started by telling the people
how you know me, how we met, a little bit
about our history and all that.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Okay, well, I'm trying to think. See, I think we
first met. It was twenty seventeen, the run up to
the tour, and.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I the music tour.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
The music tour, right, I guess I should specify, right,
And yes, that's right. My husband John and I when
I helped out at some of the dates on that,
you know, passing out miss bands and selling merch and
crowd control and just all that, all that jazz, and
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so we kind of got to be friends, Matt and.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I guess, yeah, we had. We had a lot of
fun on that tour. It was fun, Yes, And you
guys were really helpful and it was a lot of fun.
And I cut it short. I missed my son so much.
I cut it. I just after nineteen days, I'm like,
I'm done with this. I don't want to do this anymore. Yeah,
and we were doing great. We were like Elaine was
booking shows like in the car as we were driving
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to the next city, and it's like, oh my god,
South Carolina. I wants to now Texas and now this,
and there's five places in Florida that want you to
come down because we're everything was getting posted on social
media in real time and people were seeing it's oh,
come down here, come down here. So we're just getting
all these bookings and I was just like, oh man,
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we could do this for a year.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
She she put that whole thing together on a shoe string,
and I don't I don't know if I did it.
Like that was an amazing effort, and I was. I
was glad to be even just a small part of it.
It was really fun.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah, yeah, it was. It was fun anyway. So first,
you know, the fans want to know, Susanne, how you
got the job of being my crack staff.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Well, you know, it's really just being in the right
place at the right time, and crack staff is some
of a group effort, and it really I think it
just came down to I just am a fan of
the show. I love the show, and I also happen
to have this incredibly analytical, detail oriented brain. And so
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at some point you've seen the show so many times
that you stop watching the actors and you start watching
what's happening behind them, and I just like, these little
things would just pop out to me and I see
patterns and you know, lines that get repeated over and over,
and I just started seeing like these funny little things.
And so there was I can't even remember really where
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it started, but it was some episode that you guys
had done a recap for and I texted you and
I was like, but did you see X y Z
happening in the background? And you were like, oh my gosh, no,
we didn't see that, and so you like went back
and basically did a pickup for that. And I can't
even remember now which which episode it was, but that
was kind of how it all got started. And so
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then it just became kind of a habit every week
that I would watch whatever the upcoming episode was, and
if I saw, you know, something worthwhile, then I would
just point it out. So that's that's right.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
And then you text me and say is this okay?
I don't want you know, and I'm like, no, this
is great. The fans love this. And so I talked
to Amy Sugarman and said, let's make this a real thing.
Let's make this a regular part of each episode. And
she said, yeah, no, it's great. The fans eat it up.
They love this stuff. And I dubbed you crackstaff because
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that's what you are, your crackstaff, crack crackerjack staff. Yeh,
do you have any crackstaff info from Live and let diorama?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
You know? I this is so. I was bummed. I
can't wait to hear what you guys say on the recap.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
I was.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
I was hoping I could join in on that a
little bit because this is one of my favorite episodes
of the entire series. I think it's hilarious. Yeah, so
many funny lines, and I can't wait to hear how
you guys rated it.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
But okay, okay, well, but.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Really, I have noticed that as the series goes on,
they kind of like they run a tighter ship each season,
and so as the time goes on, it's harder to
find those quirky little easter eggs.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Oh really, really?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
The one thing that I that I did notice in
this episode, and I don't know if you already talked
about this in the recap, so you'll have to tell me.
So I'm not repeating anything. So, did you guys catch
onto what music was playing? The first time Lane and
Zach went into the music shop and Lane had the
record Sophie's record. Did you hear what's playing in the background?
Speaker 1 (06:45):
I did, but I don't remember it. What was? What was?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
It was? It was Pleasant Valley Sunday by the Monkeys.
That song was written by Carol King.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
And so I always I caught I'm a huge Monkeys fan,
so I caught that the very first time I saw
that episode, and so I've always thought that was kind
of a fun little easter egg that they put in there.
But other than that, I didn't I didn't find anything
significant for Live and Let diorama.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Yeah, last train to Clarksville is to slam me when
I was ten.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
You should add that into your set?
Speaker 1 (07:25):
What set the next time you go on tour? Oh
oh right, which, gosh.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
We're all holding our breath for.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
That, you know. I found out that I was really
just incredibly terrified of performing in front of people. It's
just really scary, really oh god. Yeah, as an actor,
I do not have that fear, but as a musician,
it's just why it's scary to get out there. It's
just like you're so naked.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah, and people are right there too, They're like.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Right there, right there. And I you know, I can
get by as a vocalist, but it's it's not my thing,
it's not my jam. I work, you know how hard
I worked on getting my voice in shape to do
that tour and then especially when we played at X.
Did you go down to uh Texas with us for
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the I'm sorry not ATX but for south By Southwest?
Rachel raised a feedback part, Okay, So, I mean I
really worked on my voice with a voice coach and
really paid off and all that. But it was just like,
you know, for me to be passable and to be decent,
to be okay, I have to work really hard at it.
So I was never going to achieve, you know, any
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kind of greatness with the singing. So it just really
terrified me. It really really terrified me, and I felt
like I was kind of short changing people and I
didn't want to, you know, I didn't want to put
them through it. I feel much better because I mean,
who wants to see an artist that's up there being
uncomfortable right feeling like super confident? You know, it's better
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just to let other people do your stuff. And that's
that's sort of the the arena that I'm entering now,
is uh. But anyway, that's that's that's another story. So
what do you love so besides the humor and live
and let diorama, what did you love about it? Because
to be honest with you, to tell you, we did
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not like it very much. Yeah, I mean, we loved
parts of it, and we loved what it is and
what it was when we watched it, and it's great
stuff and great background, and it just feel good with
your friends and you're watching this and you feel and
I cuddled up with Nick and we watched it together,
and you know, it's like, so what, it's not the
greatest episode of the five seasons. It's like, it's still
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Gilmore girls, right, we get that sense of it. What
did you love about it? What? Other than the funny lines?
Speaker 2 (09:57):
You know, it's I don't I really like the episodes
that center on the town, Like the town is really
like a character itself, and I just I just really
enjoy those episodes where the focus is something is happening
in the town, whether it's the firelight festival or you
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know that that hazy, crazy days of Summer insanity that
Taylor put together. I just always enjoy those episodes. And
there were a lot of like really good lines in
this one, and I was thinking, because every time you
guys do your favorite lines, I always like in my head,
I have my own favorite lines, and this one I
had like five different favorite lines. Like, I just think
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the writing in this one in particular was was good.
You know, when when Lane wants to meet with Sophie
and talk about her music career, and Sophie's like, Okay, well,
if I'm not washing my hair and I'm not sick
and my boyfriend doesn't want to do something else with me,
you know, I'll think about maybe meeting you for coffee
for ten seconds. Like I just just wined like that.
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I think are funny. And I thought it was fun
to see Luke kind of get involved in the town
because he wanted to get you know, his claws into
this house for Lorelei. But you could tell he was
kind of enjoying it when Suki and and Lorelei were
walking through and he's like he was all excited to
point out the cannonball that had fallen through the floor,
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and he was, you know, excited about this portrait of
this person that maybe had educated Ben Franklin's cousins. Like
you could see he was like taking a little bit
of pride in it, which was something different for Luke.
So I I just I just enjoyed it. I thought
it was a good episode. The part I did not
enjoy was the whole Dean thing that really was unnecessary
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and kind of came out of nowhere. I don't understand
why they brought Dean back.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Was our favorite part of that was our favorite part
of that.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
I didn't understand why they brought him back for that
one random scene, and I didn't understand why he was
so angry at Luke, like he I get that, you know,
Rory broke his heart or whatever, but I didn't understand
why he was angry at Luke. So I just thought
that was kind of weird and random.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
But I like the rest of the episode, And why
was he angry at Luke? Did he ever reason?
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Your guess is and this was a lot episode that
we got him in, so we never.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
We never seen him, haven't they always had? I mean,
didn't they get into a physical confrontation outside the diner?
Speaker 2 (12:29):
They did when Luke. Yeah, Luke was mad at Dean
the first time that they broke up, and he was
still a teenager, and so Luke was trying to prevent
him from going in the diner. But but Luke even said,
like are you mad at me about the bop thing?
Like okay, come punch me or whatever, and then Dean
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launches into his his odd tirade about they want more
than this and you know you're all you are is
the small town, which may have been true of Dean's
situation with Rory. I think Rory definitely did want more
than stars Hollow, but I don't think Laurel I did.
So I don't understand why he was directing all that
at Luke specifically. I never understood that anger, so I
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thought that was odd.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Do you have a favorite Crackstaff fact that you have found?
Speaker 2 (13:27):
I do? And so this one was a visual thing,
So it's gonna be hard to describe. But in the episode,
and I can't off the top of my head, I
can't remember the name of the episode, but it was
the scene where Luke was telling Laurel I that he
was not wearing his socks. Do you remember that scene?
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That was the episode where Luke found out that Nicole
was having an affair and he beat up the guy's car,
And there was a scene in the diner where Luke
is being snippy with Loralai and she was like, what
is wrong with you? What's going on? And that's when
he like kind of leans in and he's like, I
am not wearing my socks, So that would you see?
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And there's if you watch really closely, and it helps
probably to be on a widescreen TV. There's a scene
there like he's behind the counter and she's sitting at
the counter and he walks around the end of the
counter and when he walks around the end of the counter,
there is some piece of metal I don't know what
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it was, and somebody had drawn a happy face on it,
like with a marker, and you can see it very
clearly as Luke walks past it. There's this weird metal
object with a happy face drawn on it, and it's
really bizarre and random. And I I had other things
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from that episode, and when you read through them, you
read through it kind of quickly, and I don't know
that it like really sunk into your head when you
were listening to it, because you guys didn't have any
kind of reaction to it. But to me, that's like
that was the funniest thing because it's just kind of random,
like some something that somebody had left there on the set,
and I don't know why they drew a happy face
on it, but it just I just thought it was funny.
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So that's that's probably my favorite one. I think. The
second one we.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Know, that's probably the prop guys getting into the hooch
again during lunchtime. There you go.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
And then my my my second favorite one I think
was the scene where they they were they had put
a stop light in right outside Luke's Diner and they
were having the little ceremony to turn it on, and
you can see the sound guy is kneeling on the ground,
like you see, like his whole like upper half of
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his torso kneeling on the ground behind Lauren.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
So that was and that was outside the diner, right, Yes, Yeah,
I remember that Dennis was on his Yeah, I remember.
That was really funny.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yeah. I never understood how the camera guy didn't catch that.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Yeah, you know, Dennis. We kidded Dennis the rest of
the year about what an amazing actor was to blend
in and not get called on it, you know, and
they actually printed it. And really, how many times have
you seen the Gilmore Girls series all the way.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Through from start to finish? I don't even know. I
couldn't even count from start to finish. Probably at least
a couple dozen. I don't know. It's just it's kind
of a it's a great background show. Like if I
need some something to listen to in the background, I'll
just put it onto whatever episode I left off on.
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And so probably a couple dozen times, some episodes more
than others. But yeah, I've seen it a lot.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
So what is your absolute favorite episode?
Speaker 2 (16:55):
You know, it's hard, it's hard to pick just one.
I mean, I think on most people's list is gonna
be the you know, Liz's Wedding was a great episode. Obviously,
the test run at the Dragonfly was a good episode.
The other one I really liked that probably doesn't make
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it undo a lot of people's list is the episode
where they had the Harvard Yale football game. That was
the episode Emily finds out about penal a lot and
then she like takes out all this anger on Laura
I and so Laurlai has the first Day with Jason.
I just really enjoy that episode. I again, there's funny
lines in there that just like one of the few
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like laugh out loud kind of episodes. So those are
those are probably my top ones. And then the one
we just talked about to the mister Twickham's house is good.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Mm hmmm. Who's your favorite Gilmore Girl's character?
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I would probably say Laurel. I She's not without her flaws,
but I she's I think she's my favorite character. Number
two is probably.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Lane really mm hmmm, Lane, Okay.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
I you know, I feel like Lane never really had
the chance to do what she wanted to do. She
went straight from missus Kim's house to you know, being
a wife and a mother, and I'm not seeing that
there's anything wrong with those things. I am both of
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those things myself, but it wasn't a choice that she made.
And I always wanted kind of her rock and roll
dreams to come true. And so I think, you know,
when we see her in the revival, and I'm not
gonna get to spoilery here, but you know, when she
we see her in the revival, she seems settled and happy,
and I think that's great, and so I'm glad that,
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you know, she didn't have some horrible outcome, but I
still would have liked to have seen her get a
chance to do what she wanted to do before she
had to take on all these other responsibilities.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Did you not care for Rory?
Speaker 2 (19:06):
I am. I am not a Rory fan. I will
say that I really loved Rory during the Chiltern years.
I liked her drive and how she you know, she
kind of you know, Paris gave her that story about
the repaving the parking lot, and she just she took
it and ran with it and just knocked it out
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of the park. But then once she got to Yale,
I don't know, she just her personality changed. I think
she started to really buy into that whole Richard and
Emily and Logan lifestyle about you know, I am rich
and I'm mc gilmore and I get to do what
I want and I get to have what I want,
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and I don't know, the character just kind of fell
flat for me at that point. She seemed a little entitled,
a little annoying. So I did like Rory the first
couple of season, but then I kind of didn't like
her after that.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Are are you a Logan fan or no.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I am not a Logan fan, so in that respect,
I am a Rory fan because I think Rory needs
to be alone for a while and figure her, you
know what out. I think all three of her boyfriends
had a function that they served at the time that
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they were with her. I think all three of them
had good some good qualities at different points. But I
don't think any of them are really her soulmate. I
don't think any of them are really her endgame. Logan specifically,
he's just he's so so smooth and so slick that
he comes off to me like fake, and I just
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he just doesn't seem genuine to me, and so I'm
just not I mean, he does, he does some nice things,
but I'm just not a long term Logan fan.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
What about Jess and you like those guys?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
I think I think Dean was a little immature. I
didn't the whole cheating thing was obviously a problem. I mean,
he he sought Rory out that night intending to do that,
and I so know Dean is Deana is a non starter.
I think he was, you know, good for a while.
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As the first boyfriend. He seemed to genuinely you know,
love Rory, but he's a little, a little possessive. And
then Jess, I don't know, Jess actually turned out okay,
and I don't Again, I don't want to, like say, spoilers,
so I'm not gonna I'm not gonna get too far
into that. But I did like Jess at the end,
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but again not in not in terms of a relationship
for Rory.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Mm hmm. Any character characters that you just absolutely despised.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
I can't stand and and now I always want I
always make the distinction because it bothers me when people
don't make the distinction between the character and the actor.
So Kelly Bishop is completely amazing and she just played
the crap out of that role and she was so
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good and so amazing. But Emily Gilmore is a crappy
human being and she's she's just mean and nasty, and
I just don't here's her at all.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Yeah, I mean, as long as we're on the subject,
you what did you think of Luke?
Speaker 2 (22:43):
I love Luke now again, Like Laurela, I Luke does not.
He's not without his problems. He's got some issues and
he is badly in need of some therapy. But I
really liked the Luke character, and originally one of the
things that attracted me to the in general is the
relationship between Luke and Larel And even when they weren't together.
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Before they got together, you could tell that there is
a like, there's just a connection there, and there's just
there's just a good relationship there that's based on friendship first,
and that really appealed to me. So Luke in a
in some ways reminds me of my own husband. He's
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endlessly loyal, and he, you know, is devoted to our
relationship and and and to to our family, and he
cares about his broader family and his you know, the
community like he just he's just a good person. So
I think aside from you know, Luke's kind of anger
management issues and the whole well, I'm not even going
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to talk about this thing that's coming up that you
haven't seen yet that was a problem. But but Luke,
Luke is foundationally, he's a good person.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Your favorite boyfriend for Rory would be Jess, I take it.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
I don't think it's any of them. I think she
needs to find someone new. He needs to stop cycling
through the same three people and find someone new.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Gotcha, gotcha. Uh so who do you think she should
end up with? What type of guy? How about how
about Marty? Okay, so again solid stable guy.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
I did like Marty the first the first time we
saw him, before she got involved with Logan. I did
like Marty. He there's some problems with him later though,
but I don't.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Oh yeah, okay, well yeah, but I think.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
In general, like, you know, just a normal guy, like
somebody who's smart and can be on her intellectual level
but not all arrogant and crazy.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
But that's Marty. Marty's that guy that she should marry.
I've seen this a dozen times before, where you know,
somebody wants Marlon Brando and goes after the wrong guy
because they're exciting on what you know, on whatever level
you care to entertain that on. But uh, and then
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there's the guy that is their friend and really loves
them for who they are and sees who they are
and would be there, but they just that person just
does not want to be worshiped or put on a pedestal,
and it's uncomfortable for them. They'd rather be, you know,
have a different type of experience. But for me, it's Marty.
He's the guy. But how are you going to write that?
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You know, is that going to be full of conflict?
And well, I mean it could be, right, but I
just thought they should have given Marty some kind of
a chance.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yeah, I think that could have been That could have
been an interesting relation.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
I agree. I think she could have really answered some
questions about herself, whether the relationship lived very long at
all or not. She could have just discovered more about
herself and through a relationship like that, does it feel
forced to you?
Speaker 2 (26:17):
I have some opinions on this go ahead. So I
feel like Zach was a convenience because if you remember
back to where we first met him, he was hitting
a Lorele.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
And he.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Was he was portrayed at the beginning to be kind
of a slimeball kind of character, right, he was hitting
on LORELEI he he has a problem with everything. He's
very whiny, he complains about everything. He doesn't like the
way that Brian breathes.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
And well, I mean I agree with him there. I
wouldn't have to.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Say when David Goolski went to college because Adam Brodie
left the show, then all of a sudden he turns
into this great guy. And Lane's in love with him,
and I'm like that that kind of took a turn, like, I.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Don't what happened. That's a quick makeover that nobody told
me about, right exactly.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
It was like it was almost like the writers were like, oh, crap,
we lost Adam Brody. Now we gotta give Lane a
love interest. Let's just, you know, pick a random, unattached guy.
And I kind of wish that they had brought in another,
like introduced a new character to be Lane's love interest.
I think it did turn out okay, you know, he
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he They turned him into a good guy and he
cared about Lane, but it just was really abrupt. I
just it just kind of felt lazy to me, like,
like you said, it felt forced. It was like, here,
let's just put the two of them together, because.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
We don't know what else to do with this, not
knowing the realities behind the scene of budget and maybe
they couldn't afford a new guy or the guy they wanted.
It was too expensively, it wasn't available, kept falling through,
they kept offering it to people and just never worked out,
so they had to do something. Yeah, maybe maybe that
was a scenario. I don't know, but yeah, I agree
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with you. Here's a question for you. Do you think
Luke and Laurel I were meant to be together?
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Yes? To me, there it was very clear that they
belonged together. I know some people don't feel that way,
and that's fine, but I think they did. You know,
Like I said, they needed some work, they needed to
work on their communication for sure, but I think in
the long run, they were always meant to be together.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Mm hmmmm hmm. Yeah. I watched these episodes and it's
just such magic between the two of us. I just
really miss it, you know, It's just it was just
terrific stuff. What is your favorite era of Gilmour Girls?
It was your favorite seasons?
Speaker 2 (28:59):
So I like season four and five and if I
could like kind of create my own season, Like middle
of season four to middle of season five are like
my favorite span of episodes, kind of the run up
to when Luke and Laurel I get together and then
you know, the early part of their relationship. That's that's
(29:20):
my favorite. That's my favorite season. In air quotes, I mean,
I like all of it. I watch I watch all
of it, but that's my favorite part.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Right. Here's the question for you. Why you know I
do a lot of these comic cons. In fact, I'm
going to be in Indianapolis August twenty five through twenty seven.
I mean Indianapolis Comic Con, Indicom Popcorn, and the Gilmore
(29:53):
Girl fans show up in big numbers, and the fans
are getting younger and younger and younger every time I
do a con, to the point where I'm shocked. They'll
be a seven year old girl. There'll be a five
year old girl dressed as Luke. Their parents, young parents,
(30:15):
sometimes people so young that they weren't born yet when
the show debuted, and they have children, and you know,
they're twenty one years old, and they are obsessed with
the show, and their children are obsessed with the show,
and they're little, tiny kids and they know about the show.
And why do you think that this show has apparently
(30:36):
tapped into you know, the generation after generation after generation.
Why is this happening? Because it doesn't seem like it's
going to end. It just keeps going and going and going,
which is wonderful.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
I think it's just a timeless story. I think it's
it's comfort food for your brain basically, and it's just
it's a way to escape the craziness of our current
existence and the mother daughter granddaughter relationship. We can all
(31:11):
relate to that, like all of us to some extent,
have you know, at least some kind of Maybe it's
you know, not necessarily with your actual mother, maybe it's
you know, just a good friend or whatever. But I
think we all kind of tap into that, and I
think it's very comforting, and it's I didn't watch the
(31:33):
show when it first aired. I was busy having my
own babies and raising them, so I came into it later.
But you know, it just really spans the generations. The
women that were you know, middle aged in two thousand
are now the grandmothers, and you know, they watched it
(31:54):
with their daughters, and so their daughters who were teenagers
back then, now you know they're in their thirties or what,
and they're watching it with their own kids. Like it
just it just keeps going, and I think it's just
every it's just a comfort thing, like it takes you
back to a time when you know, maybe your life
was better, or maybe it makes you realize, okay, well
(32:17):
maybe my mom wasn't so bad. When they see how
Emily treats floor alive, you know, they they remember, gosh,
I remember I really liked Rory, you know, back then,
and I really related to her. Like I think, everybody
just taps into something different, and it's so multi generational
and and I think, kind of veering off the topic
(32:37):
a little bit, the pop culture references kind of tap
into that too, like the they make references to you know,
movies and things that were from the twenties and then
things that also happened currently. So there's like something in
there for everybody. There's you know, the older generation could
relate to things and you know West Side Story or
(32:58):
you know, then then common it's about like the Olsen
Twins or you know whatever. Like there's just something in
there for every.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Age range, right right, So listen, So your better half
John is camping with your boy right now, and he
couldn't be here today, but he's partly he's a big
part of crackstaff, John French, So I just want to
give a shout out to him. Elaine Espinoza, who is
kind of the head of my team, and she's on
(33:29):
a little bit of a hiatus back in the East
Coast taking care of some folks who need her help.
And and so anyway, I appreciate everything you guys have done,
and thank you so very much for all the hard work.
And you've really made this podcast that much more interesting
(33:51):
for people.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Oh well, I appreciate that. I hope that people are
enjoying it.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Well, we may be calling you again.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Hey, I'm around you know where to find me.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Anyway. That's going to wrap it up. Thank you so much, Susanne.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
We will see you soon. We'll talk to you soon.
Best to John, best to your boy and all the best,
and we'll talk soon.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Okay, great, Thanks Scott, take care all.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Right, Susan, all right, take care.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Okay, bye bye bye
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Hey everybody, and don't forget follow us on Instagram at
i Am All In Podcast and email us at Gilmour
at iHeartRadio dot com
I Am all In. Oh, Let's kiss you.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I Am all in with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Everybody Scott Patterson, I Am all In Podcast one of
them productions iHeart Radio. One on one interview with the
one and Only Crackstaff and it's Suzanne French, who has
been in my life since twenty seventeen. She's been involved
in a lot of goings ons. She was part of
(00:42):
the music tour. She has been very helpful. She's been
a really great loyal team member for these seven years
and hope it continues. She's just terrific. Her and her
husband John have been very very helpful. And I met
them through my chief assistant, Elina Spinoza, who a lot
(01:05):
of you know out there because you interact with her
so often online and on my socials and all that stuff,
and there's so many of you that I had to
delegate all that stuff to them because I just there
weren't enough hours in the day. I tried to do
it in the beginning, but it means a lot that
Susanne will come on. She's a true, true, truly hard worker.
(01:30):
She's got a regular job and she does this in
addition to so we really thank her. We're gonna's bring
her own Susanne French.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
It's me.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
How you been, I'm good? How you doing?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I'm good.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
So look, look, let's get started by telling the people
how you know me, how we met, a little bit
about our history and all that.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Okay, well, I'm trying to think. See, I think we
first met. It was twenty seventeen, the run up to
the tour, and.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I the music tour.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
The music tour, right, I guess I should specify, right,
And yes, that's right. My husband John and I when
I helped out at some of the dates on that,
you know, passing out miss bands and selling merch and
crowd control and just all that, all that jazz, and
(02:28):
so we kind of got to be friends, Matt and.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I guess, yeah, we had. We had a lot of
fun on that tour. It was fun, Yes, And you
guys were really helpful and it was a lot of fun.
And I cut it short. I missed my son so much.
I cut it. I just after nineteen days, I'm like,
I'm done with this. I don't want to do this anymore. Yeah,
and we were doing great. We were like Elaine was
booking shows like in the car as we were driving
(02:56):
to the next city, and it's like, oh my god,
South Carolina. I wants to now Texas and now this,
and there's five places in Florida that want you to
come down because we're everything was getting posted on social
media in real time and people were seeing it's oh,
come down here, come down here. So we're just getting
all these bookings and I was just like, oh man,
(03:17):
we could do this for a year.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
She she put that whole thing together on a shoe string,
and I don't I don't know if I did it.
Like that was an amazing effort, and I was. I
was glad to be even just a small part of it.
It was really fun.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah, yeah, it was. It was fun anyway. So first,
you know, the fans want to know, Susanne, how you
got the job of being my crack staff.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Well, you know, it's really just being in the right
place at the right time, and crack staff is some
of a group effort, and it really I think it
just came down to I just am a fan of
the show. I love the show, and I also happen
to have this incredibly analytical, detail oriented brain. And so
(04:17):
at some point you've seen the show so many times
that you stop watching the actors and you start watching
what's happening behind them, and I just like, these little
things would just pop out to me and I see
patterns and you know, lines that get repeated over and over,
and I just started seeing like these funny little things.
And so there was I can't even remember really where
(04:39):
it started, but it was some episode that you guys
had done a recap for and I texted you and
I was like, but did you see X y Z
happening in the background? And you were like, oh my gosh, no,
we didn't see that, and so you like went back
and basically did a pickup for that. And I can't
even remember now which which episode it was, but that
was kind of how it all got started. And so
(05:00):
then it just became kind of a habit every week
that I would watch whatever the upcoming episode was, and
if I saw, you know, something worthwhile, then I would
just point it out. So that's that's right.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
And then you text me and say is this okay?
I don't want you know, and I'm like, no, this
is great. The fans love this. And so I talked
to Amy Sugarman and said, let's make this a real thing.
Let's make this a regular part of each episode. And
she said, yeah, no, it's great. The fans eat it up.
They love this stuff. And I dubbed you crackstaff because
(05:40):
that's what you are, your crackstaff, crack crackerjack staff. Yeh,
do you have any crackstaff info from Live and let diorama?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
You know? I this is so. I was bummed. I
can't wait to hear what you guys say on the recap.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
I was.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
I was hoping I could join in on that a
little bit because this is one of my favorite episodes
of the entire series. I think it's hilarious. Yeah, so
many funny lines, and I can't wait to hear how
you guys rated it.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
But okay, okay, well, but.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Really, I have noticed that as the series goes on,
they kind of like they run a tighter ship each season,
and so as the time goes on, it's harder to
find those quirky little easter eggs.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Oh really, really?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
The one thing that I that I did notice in
this episode, and I don't know if you already talked
about this in the recap, so you'll have to tell me.
So I'm not repeating anything. So, did you guys catch
onto what music was playing? The first time Lane and
Zach went into the music shop and Lane had the
record Sophie's record. Did you hear what's playing in the background?
Speaker 1 (06:45):
I did, but I don't remember it. What was? What was?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
It was? It was Pleasant Valley Sunday by the Monkeys.
That song was written by Carol King.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
And so I always I caught I'm a huge Monkeys fan,
so I caught that the very first time I saw
that episode, and so I've always thought that was kind
of a fun little easter egg that they put in there.
But other than that, I didn't I didn't find anything
significant for Live and Let diorama.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Yeah, last train to Clarksville is to slam me when
I was ten.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
You should add that into your set?
Speaker 1 (07:25):
What set the next time you go on tour? Oh
oh right, which, gosh.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
We're all holding our breath for.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
That, you know. I found out that I was really
just incredibly terrified of performing in front of people. It's
just really scary, really oh god. Yeah, as an actor,
I do not have that fear, but as a musician,
it's just why it's scary to get out there. It's
just like you're so naked.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah, and people are right there too, They're like.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Right there, right there. And I you know, I can
get by as a vocalist, but it's it's not my thing,
it's not my jam. I work, you know how hard
I worked on getting my voice in shape to do
that tour and then especially when we played at X.
Did you go down to uh Texas with us for
(08:19):
the I'm sorry not ATX but for south By Southwest?
Rachel raised a feedback part, Okay, So, I mean I
really worked on my voice with a voice coach and
really paid off and all that. But it was just like,
you know, for me to be passable and to be decent,
to be okay, I have to work really hard at it.
So I was never going to achieve, you know, any
(08:40):
kind of greatness with the singing. So it just really
terrified me. It really really terrified me, and I felt
like I was kind of short changing people and I
didn't want to, you know, I didn't want to put
them through it. I feel much better because I mean,
who wants to see an artist that's up there being
uncomfortable right feeling like super confident? You know, it's better
(09:03):
just to let other people do your stuff. And that's
that's sort of the the arena that I'm entering now,
is uh. But anyway, that's that's that's another story. So
what do you love so besides the humor and live
and let diorama, what did you love about it? Because
to be honest with you, to tell you, we did
(09:25):
not like it very much. Yeah, I mean, we loved
parts of it, and we loved what it is and
what it was when we watched it, and it's great
stuff and great background, and it just feel good with
your friends and you're watching this and you feel and
I cuddled up with Nick and we watched it together,
and you know, it's like, so what, it's not the
greatest episode of the five seasons. It's like, it's still
(09:49):
Gilmore girls, right, we get that sense of it. What
did you love about it? What? Other than the funny lines?
Speaker 2 (09:57):
You know, it's I don't I really like the episodes
that center on the town, Like the town is really
like a character itself, and I just I just really
enjoy those episodes where the focus is something is happening
in the town, whether it's the firelight festival or you
(10:19):
know that that hazy, crazy days of Summer insanity that
Taylor put together. I just always enjoy those episodes. And
there were a lot of like really good lines in
this one, and I was thinking, because every time you
guys do your favorite lines, I always like in my head,
I have my own favorite lines, and this one I
had like five different favorite lines. Like, I just think
(10:40):
the writing in this one in particular was was good.
You know, when when Lane wants to meet with Sophie
and talk about her music career, and Sophie's like, Okay, well,
if I'm not washing my hair and I'm not sick
and my boyfriend doesn't want to do something else with me,
you know, I'll think about maybe meeting you for coffee
for ten seconds. Like I just just wined like that.
(11:03):
I think are funny. And I thought it was fun
to see Luke kind of get involved in the town
because he wanted to get you know, his claws into
this house for Lorelei. But you could tell he was
kind of enjoying it when Suki and and Lorelei were
walking through and he's like he was all excited to
point out the cannonball that had fallen through the floor,
(11:25):
and he was, you know, excited about this portrait of
this person that maybe had educated Ben Franklin's cousins. Like
you could see he was like taking a little bit
of pride in it, which was something different for Luke.
So I I just I just enjoyed it. I thought
it was a good episode. The part I did not
enjoy was the whole Dean thing that really was unnecessary
(11:48):
and kind of came out of nowhere. I don't understand
why they brought Dean back.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Was our favorite part of that was our favorite part
of that.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
I didn't understand why they brought him back for that
one random scene, and I didn't understand why he was
so angry at Luke, like he I get that, you know,
Rory broke his heart or whatever, but I didn't understand
why he was angry at Luke. So I just thought
that was kind of weird and random.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
But I like the rest of the episode, And why
was he angry at Luke? Did he ever reason?
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Your guess is and this was a lot episode that
we got him in, so we never.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
We never seen him, haven't they always had? I mean,
didn't they get into a physical confrontation outside the diner?
Speaker 2 (12:29):
They did when Luke. Yeah, Luke was mad at Dean
the first time that they broke up, and he was
still a teenager, and so Luke was trying to prevent
him from going in the diner. But but Luke even said,
like are you mad at me about the bop thing?
Like okay, come punch me or whatever, and then Dean
(12:50):
launches into his his odd tirade about they want more
than this and you know you're all you are is
the small town, which may have been true of Dean's
situation with Rory. I think Rory definitely did want more
than stars Hollow, but I don't think Laurel I did.
So I don't understand why he was directing all that
at Luke specifically. I never understood that anger, so I
(13:15):
thought that was odd.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Do you have a favorite Crackstaff fact that you have found?
Speaker 2 (13:27):
I do? And so this one was a visual thing,
So it's gonna be hard to describe. But in the episode,
and I can't off the top of my head, I
can't remember the name of the episode, but it was
the scene where Luke was telling Laurel I that he
was not wearing his socks. Do you remember that scene?
(13:48):
That was the episode where Luke found out that Nicole
was having an affair and he beat up the guy's car,
And there was a scene in the diner where Luke
is being snippy with Loralai and she was like, what
is wrong with you? What's going on? And that's when
he like kind of leans in and he's like, I
am not wearing my socks, So that would you see?
(14:11):
And there's if you watch really closely, and it helps
probably to be on a widescreen TV. There's a scene
there like he's behind the counter and she's sitting at
the counter and he walks around the end of the
counter and when he walks around the end of the counter,
there is some piece of metal I don't know what
(14:32):
it was, and somebody had drawn a happy face on it,
like with a marker, and you can see it very
clearly as Luke walks past it. There's this weird metal
object with a happy face drawn on it, and it's
really bizarre and random. And I I had other things
(14:53):
from that episode, and when you read through them, you
read through it kind of quickly, and I don't know
that it like really sunk into your head when you
were listening to it, because you guys didn't have any
kind of reaction to it. But to me, that's like
that was the funniest thing because it's just kind of random,
like some something that somebody had left there on the set,
and I don't know why they drew a happy face
on it, but it just I just thought it was funny.
(15:16):
So that's that's probably my favorite one. I think. The
second one we.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Know, that's probably the prop guys getting into the hooch
again during lunchtime. There you go.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
And then my my my second favorite one I think
was the scene where they they were they had put
a stop light in right outside Luke's Diner and they
were having the little ceremony to turn it on, and
you can see the sound guy is kneeling on the ground,
like you see, like his whole like upper half of
(15:47):
his torso kneeling on the ground behind Lauren.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
So that was and that was outside the diner, right, Yes, Yeah,
I remember that Dennis was on his Yeah, I remember.
That was really funny.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yeah. I never understood how the camera guy didn't catch that.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Yeah, you know, Dennis. We kidded Dennis the rest of
the year about what an amazing actor was to blend
in and not get called on it, you know, and
they actually printed it. And really, how many times have
you seen the Gilmore Girls series all the way.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Through from start to finish? I don't even know. I
couldn't even count from start to finish. Probably at least
a couple dozen. I don't know. It's just it's kind
of a it's a great background show. Like if I
need some something to listen to in the background, I'll
just put it onto whatever episode I left off on.
(16:42):
And so probably a couple dozen times, some episodes more
than others. But yeah, I've seen it a lot.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
So what is your absolute favorite episode?
Speaker 2 (16:55):
You know, it's hard, it's hard to pick just one.
I mean, I think on most people's list is gonna
be the you know, Liz's Wedding was a great episode. Obviously,
the test run at the Dragonfly was a good episode.
The other one I really liked that probably doesn't make
(17:17):
it undo a lot of people's list is the episode
where they had the Harvard Yale football game. That was
the episode Emily finds out about penal a lot and
then she like takes out all this anger on Laura
I and so Laurlai has the first Day with Jason.
I just really enjoy that episode. I again, there's funny
lines in there that just like one of the few
(17:37):
like laugh out loud kind of episodes. So those are
those are probably my top ones. And then the one
we just talked about to the mister Twickham's house is good.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Mm hmmm. Who's your favorite Gilmore Girl's character?
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I would probably say Laurel. I She's not without her flaws,
but I she's I think she's my favorite character. Number
two is probably.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Lane really mm hmmm, Lane, Okay.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
I you know, I feel like Lane never really had
the chance to do what she wanted to do. She
went straight from missus Kim's house to you know, being
a wife and a mother, and I'm not seeing that
there's anything wrong with those things. I am both of
(18:29):
those things myself, but it wasn't a choice that she made.
And I always wanted kind of her rock and roll
dreams to come true. And so I think, you know,
when we see her in the revival, and I'm not
gonna get to spoilery here, but you know, when she
we see her in the revival, she seems settled and happy,
and I think that's great, and so I'm glad that,
(18:52):
you know, she didn't have some horrible outcome, but I
still would have liked to have seen her get a
chance to do what she wanted to do before she
had to take on all these other responsibilities.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Did you not care for Rory?
Speaker 2 (19:06):
I am. I am not a Rory fan. I will
say that I really loved Rory during the Chiltern years.
I liked her drive and how she you know, she
kind of you know, Paris gave her that story about
the repaving the parking lot, and she just she took
it and ran with it and just knocked it out
(19:26):
of the park. But then once she got to Yale,
I don't know, she just her personality changed. I think
she started to really buy into that whole Richard and
Emily and Logan lifestyle about you know, I am rich
and I'm mc gilmore and I get to do what
I want and I get to have what I want,
(19:49):
and I don't know, the character just kind of fell
flat for me at that point. She seemed a little entitled,
a little annoying. So I did like Rory the first
couple of season, but then I kind of didn't like
her after that.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Are are you a Logan fan or no.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I am not a Logan fan, so in that respect,
I am a Rory fan because I think Rory needs
to be alone for a while and figure her, you
know what out. I think all three of her boyfriends
had a function that they served at the time that
(20:27):
they were with her. I think all three of them
had good some good qualities at different points. But I
don't think any of them are really her soulmate. I
don't think any of them are really her endgame. Logan specifically,
he's just he's so so smooth and so slick that
he comes off to me like fake, and I just
(20:48):
he just doesn't seem genuine to me, and so I'm
just not I mean, he does, he does some nice things,
but I'm just not a long term Logan fan.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
What about Jess and you like those guys?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
I think I think Dean was a little immature. I
didn't the whole cheating thing was obviously a problem. I mean,
he he sought Rory out that night intending to do that,
and I so know Dean is Deana is a non starter.
I think he was, you know, good for a while.
(21:24):
As the first boyfriend. He seemed to genuinely you know,
love Rory, but he's a little, a little possessive. And
then Jess, I don't know, Jess actually turned out okay,
and I don't Again, I don't want to, like say, spoilers,
so I'm not gonna I'm not gonna get too far
into that. But I did like Jess at the end,
(21:45):
but again not in not in terms of a relationship
for Rory.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Mm hmm. Any character characters that you just absolutely despised.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
I can't stand and and now I always want I
always make the distinction because it bothers me when people
don't make the distinction between the character and the actor.
So Kelly Bishop is completely amazing and she just played
the crap out of that role and she was so
(22:21):
good and so amazing. But Emily Gilmore is a crappy
human being and she's she's just mean and nasty, and
I just don't here's her at all.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Yeah, I mean, as long as we're on the subject,
you what did you think of Luke?
Speaker 2 (22:43):
I love Luke now again, Like Laurela, I Luke does not.
He's not without his problems. He's got some issues and
he is badly in need of some therapy. But I
really liked the Luke character, and originally one of the
things that attracted me to the in general is the
relationship between Luke and Larel And even when they weren't together.
(23:06):
Before they got together, you could tell that there is
a like, there's just a connection there, and there's just
there's just a good relationship there that's based on friendship first,
and that really appealed to me. So Luke in a
in some ways reminds me of my own husband. He's
(23:27):
endlessly loyal, and he, you know, is devoted to our
relationship and and and to to our family, and he
cares about his broader family and his you know, the
community like he just he's just a good person. So
I think aside from you know, Luke's kind of anger
management issues and the whole well, I'm not even going
(23:50):
to talk about this thing that's coming up that you
haven't seen yet that was a problem. But but Luke,
Luke is foundationally, he's a good person.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Your favorite boyfriend for Rory would be Jess, I take it.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
I don't think it's any of them. I think she
needs to find someone new. He needs to stop cycling
through the same three people and find someone new.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Gotcha, gotcha. Uh so who do you think she should
end up with? What type of guy? How about how
about Marty? Okay, so again solid stable guy.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
I did like Marty the first the first time we
saw him, before she got involved with Logan. I did
like Marty. He there's some problems with him later though,
but I don't.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Oh yeah, okay, well yeah, but I think.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
In general, like, you know, just a normal guy, like
somebody who's smart and can be on her intellectual level
but not all arrogant and crazy.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
But that's Marty. Marty's that guy that she should marry.
I've seen this a dozen times before, where you know,
somebody wants Marlon Brando and goes after the wrong guy
because they're exciting on what you know, on whatever level
you care to entertain that on. But uh, and then
(25:23):
there's the guy that is their friend and really loves
them for who they are and sees who they are
and would be there, but they just that person just
does not want to be worshiped or put on a pedestal,
and it's uncomfortable for them. They'd rather be, you know,
have a different type of experience. But for me, it's Marty.
He's the guy. But how are you going to write that?
(25:46):
You know, is that going to be full of conflict?
And well, I mean it could be, right, but I
just thought they should have given Marty some kind of
a chance.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yeah, I think that could have been That could have
been an interesting relation.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
I agree. I think she could have really answered some
questions about herself, whether the relationship lived very long at
all or not. She could have just discovered more about
herself and through a relationship like that, does it feel
forced to you?
Speaker 2 (26:17):
I have some opinions on this go ahead. So I
feel like Zach was a convenience because if you remember
back to where we first met him, he was hitting
a Lorele.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
And he.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Was he was portrayed at the beginning to be kind
of a slimeball kind of character, right, he was hitting
on LORELEI he he has a problem with everything. He's
very whiny, he complains about everything. He doesn't like the
way that Brian breathes.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
And well, I mean I agree with him there. I
wouldn't have to.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Say when David Goolski went to college because Adam Brodie
left the show, then all of a sudden he turns
into this great guy. And Lane's in love with him,
and I'm like that that kind of took a turn, like, I.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Don't what happened. That's a quick makeover that nobody told
me about, right exactly.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
It was like it was almost like the writers were like, oh, crap,
we lost Adam Brody. Now we gotta give Lane a
love interest. Let's just, you know, pick a random, unattached guy.
And I kind of wish that they had brought in another,
like introduced a new character to be Lane's love interest.
I think it did turn out okay, you know, he
(27:36):
he They turned him into a good guy and he
cared about Lane, but it just was really abrupt. I
just it just kind of felt lazy to me, like,
like you said, it felt forced. It was like, here,
let's just put the two of them together, because.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
We don't know what else to do with this, not
knowing the realities behind the scene of budget and maybe
they couldn't afford a new guy or the guy they wanted.
It was too expensively, it wasn't available, kept falling through,
they kept offering it to people and just never worked out,
so they had to do something. Yeah, maybe maybe that
was a scenario. I don't know, but yeah, I agree
(28:09):
with you. Here's a question for you. Do you think
Luke and Laurel I were meant to be together?
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Yes? To me, there it was very clear that they
belonged together. I know some people don't feel that way,
and that's fine, but I think they did. You know,
Like I said, they needed some work, they needed to
work on their communication for sure, but I think in
the long run, they were always meant to be together.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Mm hmmmm hmm. Yeah. I watched these episodes and it's
just such magic between the two of us. I just
really miss it, you know, It's just it was just
terrific stuff. What is your favorite era of Gilmour Girls?
It was your favorite seasons?
Speaker 2 (28:59):
So I like season four and five and if I
could like kind of create my own season, Like middle
of season four to middle of season five are like
my favorite span of episodes, kind of the run up
to when Luke and Laurel I get together and then
you know, the early part of their relationship. That's that's
(29:20):
my favorite. That's my favorite season. In air quotes, I mean,
I like all of it. I watch I watch all
of it, but that's my favorite part.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Right. Here's the question for you. Why you know I
do a lot of these comic cons. In fact, I'm
going to be in Indianapolis August twenty five through twenty seven.
I mean Indianapolis Comic Con, Indicom Popcorn, and the Gilmore
(29:53):
Girl fans show up in big numbers, and the fans
are getting younger and younger and younger every time I
do a con, to the point where I'm shocked. They'll
be a seven year old girl. There'll be a five
year old girl dressed as Luke. Their parents, young parents,
(30:15):
sometimes people so young that they weren't born yet when
the show debuted, and they have children, and you know,
they're twenty one years old, and they are obsessed with
the show, and their children are obsessed with the show,
and they're little, tiny kids and they know about the show.
And why do you think that this show has apparently
(30:36):
tapped into you know, the generation after generation after generation.
Why is this happening? Because it doesn't seem like it's
going to end. It just keeps going and going and going,
which is wonderful.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
I think it's just a timeless story. I think it's
it's comfort food for your brain basically, and it's just
it's a way to escape the craziness of our current
existence and the mother daughter granddaughter relationship. We can all
(31:11):
relate to that, like all of us to some extent,
have you know, at least some kind of Maybe it's
you know, not necessarily with your actual mother, maybe it's
you know, just a good friend or whatever. But I
think we all kind of tap into that, and I
think it's very comforting, and it's I didn't watch the
(31:33):
show when it first aired. I was busy having my
own babies and raising them, so I came into it later.
But you know, it just really spans the generations. The
women that were you know, middle aged in two thousand
are now the grandmothers, and you know, they watched it
(31:54):
with their daughters, and so their daughters who were teenagers
back then, now you know they're in their thirties or what,
and they're watching it with their own kids. Like it
just it just keeps going, and I think it's just
every it's just a comfort thing, like it takes you
back to a time when you know, maybe your life
was better, or maybe it makes you realize, okay, well
(32:17):
maybe my mom wasn't so bad. When they see how
Emily treats floor alive, you know, they they remember, gosh,
I remember I really liked Rory, you know, back then,
and I really related to her. Like I think, everybody
just taps into something different, and it's so multi generational
and and I think, kind of veering off the topic
(32:37):
a little bit, the pop culture references kind of tap
into that too, like the they make references to you know,
movies and things that were from the twenties and then
things that also happened currently. So there's like something in
there for everybody. There's you know, the older generation could
relate to things and you know West Side Story or
(32:58):
you know, then then common it's about like the Olsen
Twins or you know whatever. Like there's just something in
there for every.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Age range, right right, So listen, So your better half
John is camping with your boy right now, and he
couldn't be here today, but he's partly he's a big
part of crackstaff, John French, So I just want to
give a shout out to him. Elaine Espinoza, who is
kind of the head of my team, and she's on
(33:29):
a little bit of a hiatus back in the East
Coast taking care of some folks who need her help.
And and so anyway, I appreciate everything you guys have done,
and thank you so very much for all the hard work.
And you've really made this podcast that much more interesting
(33:51):
for people.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Oh well, I appreciate that. I hope that people are
enjoying it.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Well, we may be calling you again.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Hey, I'm around you know where to find me.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Anyway. That's going to wrap it up. Thank you so much, Susanne.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
We will see you soon. We'll talk to you soon.
Best to John, best to your boy and all the best,
and we'll talk soon.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Okay, great, Thanks Scott, take care all.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Right, Susan, all right, take care.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Okay, bye bye bye
Speaker 1 (34:53):
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