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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Part of the allure of the world's biggest nightclubs is exclusivity.
The world inside the club is your oyster. If the
bouncil lets you in, it helps to make the community
you find inside the club that much more special and unique.
Those kind of clubs come with their own set of rules.
In this episode, we're traveling to Berlin, Germany to take
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you inside of a club known as one of the
most famously private, selective, and sexiest nightclubs in the world, Bergheim.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
It's called the tapest door in the world.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Bergheim is arguably the hardest club to get into. Media
is not allowed and the owners don't give interviews. This
is part of what defines this legendary venue. Doesn't matter
who you are, and even if you're lucky enough to
get in, you're not promised the second night, and his
strict door policy helps to protect the community inside. This
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club was made for queer people and allies who want
to break away from mainstream society.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
One of the overarching goal of the selection policy is
to try to create a space where those who might
feel rejected in other spaces feel home, and that's big
parts of what makes it so special.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
That's Claudio he was born and raised in Berlin, but
for him, you're not truly from Berlin until you've partied
in Bergheim. So when Claudial turned eighteen, he made it
his mission. He was going to get into that club.
It was a freezing cold fall night, nearly a decade ago.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
People are drinking, people are laughing, having fun.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Claudio and a group of friends walk up to the
towering stone building and get in line. They've been standing
in line for a good few hours. They're chilling, they're
cracking jokes. They're making their way up the line.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
But the close do you get to the door, the
more the conversation's diet gets quiet, get tense, and people
are like excited, and people make sure their outfit is
the way they want to be seen. They stop smiling
and they try to look cool.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
They're a rows and rows of people, each of them
trying to play it cool, but at the same time
desperately locking eyes with the one person who could grant
them admission.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
The entrance to Burkaine and there's like infamous bouncer with
his crew. His name is friend Mark Uat and he's
quite a quite a character.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Spin is the kind of person who used to wear
bow ties because he likes the way they compliment his
barbed wire face tattoos.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
And his job is really to make sure that the
crowd in there is composed of people who know how
to party, who create a good vibe.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Sven and the bouncers at Burke Eye are looking for
a certain look.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
The bouncers only admit people that they see an edge
or value for the party, or that they know very well.
So you can either earn your admission by just being
persistent and going there quite Sometimes.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Your look it has to be fire. You need to
be there to create the party vibe, and that can
mean whatever you want. At the door, Spinn was doing
more than checking IDs. He was curating. Sometimes when you
approach the bounces at Burgheym, when you finally make it
to the rope at the front entrance, the bouncers just
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stand there for a minute, feeling you out. The anticipation grows,
and more often than not they turn to you and
politely say not tonight, and that's your cue to exit
the line. This one night, though Claudio and his friends
rolled the dice.
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We approached the bouncer, it got serious. Where in little
groups like I think two three groups of two three
people each and then just one group after the other
tried it and failed miserably, so none of us got in, but.
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He was undeterred. So he tries again another night.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
And to this time we split up in like two
two and I was alone, and same procedure, and this
time everyone got bounced.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
But then the bouncer looked him up and down.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
I got in and that was when I got addicted.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Even today, he has no idea why he was chosen
that night. No one has been able to crack that code,
but he was willing to leave behind his friends for
a shot at his first night at Bergheim.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
From this weekend on, really, I didn't miss an opportunity
to go to Berken for about two three years. I
went there, certainly more than one hundred times.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Claudio says the community at Bergheim was really what sucked
him in. He says he became addicted to getting in,
to being immersed in that scene.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Ye have crazy fomo and as just really vibrant, and
it feels like a school excursion at some point where
he just enter and I always went alone because just
from the first couple of times in there, I met
so many people there that I didn't want to come
with other people and would be limited in my ability
to roam moraunt and talk to different people.
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So I really appreciate or.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Really love this going there on my own, being completely independent,
and then having so many acquaintance and loose friends and
party friends in there that really make the night yours
that you own, that you control, but you're still not alone.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
If you could get through the gauntlet outside and cross
the threshold into the club, a night at Bergheim was
a choose your own adventure. You were never alone, but
going alone meant you had the freedom to make the
night whatever you wanted it to be. You were destined
to find your new party family inside. For Claudio and
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clubgoers like him, it was intoxicating. The first night Claudio
made it inside, he walked through a tiny steel door.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
It looks even tinier when they're like four or five
huge bouncers standing in front of it, and then it
goes to the left where you've the checking room. So
they do pretty intense body checks to make sure that
you don't bring harmful things into the club.
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They were looking for drugs, but Bergeine has a reputation
of keeping drugs out it helps create a safe space inside.
And then after the body check, he went to pay
his cover.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
And we went there for the first time with twelve euros.
And then you're in front of the cote room.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
The cloakroom is like the code check. Claudio starts to
smile as he remembers this part.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
In front of the cloakroom, everyone is changing their dresses.
So the way you enter Berken is never the way
you party there. So everyone comes with their party dresses,
but they are hidden, like they're in a bag. Like
no one dances in jeans or long pants because it's
just way too hot and way too limiting.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
The goal is to party in whatever feels most comfortable
and freeing. You don't wear heels to a place like
Burgey unless you can rage in them for twenty four hours.
You could buy the most expensive outfit, but by the
time you got inside, nobody cared what you were wearing.
And instead of getting a number at Cocheck, you.
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Actually get a chip that is on a leash and
that you can put around your neck. And that's one
aspect that I really like because psychologically like it unites
the people because everyone is kind of wearing the same chain.
Around their necks, which makes it feel a bit cultish
or kinky.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
It doesn't matter. It's the burg Hid way. The club
has secret areas to hook up in, so of course
cameras are a no no, but they don't take your
camera or phone. There's just an unwritten rule. You honor
their policy.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
When you're the buddy check, they ask you to cover
the camera phone with colorful stickers. It's strictly forbidden to
take any photos inside the club, which makes a lot
of sense because it just liberates people and it like
what happens in Burkehne stays in Burken is probably one
of the most oftenly quoted sayings from there. Also, there
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are no mirrors in the entire building, so it's really
encouraging you to focus on what you experienced.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
That's right, no mirrors anywhere, not even in the bathroom.
Once you're inside, it's about your experience. The club isn't
looking for you to take selfies in the bathroom to
share with your friends on Instagram or TikTok. All comes
back to privacy. Burguyn is an experience. It's dark inside,
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the windows are closed most of the time, and every
once in a while as the night turns into early morning,
a sliver of light might pour into the room from
an opening door for a moment, breaking the spell of
the darkened dance floor. The music journalist Tobias Rapp described
it this way.
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I always thought, it's like you feel like a vampire
that gets attacked by the sunlight. It says, oh, no,
the sunlight, there's reality out there. It says, if you're
the creature of the night, you're an internal twilight zone
of this club, like a vampire. And then you see, oh,
and it's like an extra effect. The sunlight is like
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an extra effect that reminds you of the dangers of leaving.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
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Speaker 3 (10:27):
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Episode nine. Berghein, Berlin, Germany. Bergein is part night club,
part sex club. It's been opened since two thousand and
four and remains ultra private to this day. It became
a place for a new kind of counterculture after the
fall of the Berlin Wall in nineteen eighty nine. The
city came together to heal and healing men, finding their
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own identity as one city not too Bergin revolutionized Berlin
and put the city on the map as a party
city and cultural epicenter. There's no way Bergin would have
existed before the fall of the Berlin Wall. A few
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years after World War Two, Germany was split into two
separate republics, West Germany, which was an ally of the US,
the UK, and France, and East Germany was an ally
of the Soviet Union. But people living in the two
Germanys had vastly different political, financial, and social lives. So
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to stop people from East Germany moving to the more
prosperous West, in nineteen sixty one, the Soviet East built
a wall that ran through the middle of Berlin. It
represented the ideological divide between the East and West and
just how divided the city had become. A few years later,
in nineteen eighty nine, the Berlin Wall came down.
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This was the night of the Big breakout. Checkpoints across
Berlin had finally buckled before the extraordinary political pressures wrecking
this frontline communist state.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
At the time, TV news stations were televising people from
the East side jumping over the wall and pulling concrete
blocks down with their bare hands. After decades, the people
of Berlin were coming together to reinvent themselves.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
I moved to Berlin in nineteen ninety immediately after the
war came down, and I spent the nineties going out.
I was one of these people who were part of
this crazy nightlift of the nineties.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
That's Tobias Rapp, who we heard from a moment ago.
He's a writer and a journalist for the newspaper Despigo.
The wall coming down represented liberation, so people wanted to
live it up, to go to parties and celebrate the
new world they were stepping into.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
There were like hundreds of groups of friends like me
and my friends who just squatted something and did something
with it, parties or art or whatever. And these are
the roots of the Berlin nightlife.
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So the city was in flux, and on the east
side there was a ton of abandoned buildings everywhere. Back then,
Berlin was nowhere near a destination city like it is today.
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In the May of nineteen ninety, if you looked at
East Berlin East, some part of the city back then,
you had literally thirty percent of the city empty, like
every third building was empty. And if you like, that's
quite literal freedom.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
But with newfound freedom came a multitude of opportunities and
directions to take. It was all new for this healing city.
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It was very difficult for Berlin to find a new
identity after the war fell down, because it was difficult
to find lines of tradition that you could feel a
relation to. I always say Berlin has lots of history
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and not so much of tradition. And in the nineties
there was a lot of cluelessness. Where are we? Who
are we? What should we do?
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Tobias wrote a book called Lost and Sound Berlin Techno
and the Easy Jet Set. It's about techno subcultures and
Berlin history. Berlin was trying to figure itself out, but
Tobias says there was one thing they were one hundred
percent clear on.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Berlin was always a gay city. So the gay community
and the queer community was always very, very important in
the city.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Berlin wanted to honor the queer community that had always
been such an important part of its culture, and in
two thousand and four bergheim was born back.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
This the symbol not only for parties, it's also the
symbol of what Berlin developed into being right now, because
it's not something that the government invented or that big
companies invented. It's something that has deep roots in the city.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Berghein founders Michael tay Flea and Norbert Thormann had a
vision for a new kind of subculture.
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To me and to lots of people, I think that subculture, music,
nightlife is what constructed the real new identity of the city.
I think it's impossible to underestimate how important this culture
is for the definition of the city. This is who
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we are. We are a city that is not living
in Prussian times. We are a city that lives in
the twenty first century. And the symbol for all of
this is Berkheim.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Norbert and Michael are famously known for not giving interviews,
which adds to Berghein's private vibe. I guess the club
is left to speak for itself, and I think it does.
The building is massive. The founders were looking for a
building with deep Berlin history, something that kept them grounded
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but gave them room to grow, and they found it.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
They called us and we agreed on a site. Visit
so and it's a really beautiful all power station in
the middle of the city.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
That's Thomas Carston. In two thousand and three, he and
his wife Alexander Earhart started an architectural business called Studio
Carhart in Berlin. He remembers the moment he walked into
the gigantic building, which had been derelict for years.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
From the first second we all experienced the kind of
magic situation. It was very dark, it was dirty, but
it was still an impressive building because so you walk
in on ground level, but the view goes up eighteen
meters to the ceiling. It's very high.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
It was like walking onto the set of a Jurassic
Park movie.
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Little plants were growing inside and birds living there, flapping around.
So the first visit was Kia Lipsay in expedition into
something mysterious.
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The industrial building was mysterious but a beautiful find, and
the inside would be transformed, and there was one thing
they were sure about.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
We want to keep the look of this power station,
so this shouldn't be touched.
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The total transformation took one year, and by late two
thousand and four the space was ready to roll. The
opening night was hectic and nerve wracking.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
I remember actually this each thing quite well because I
think we have been there an hour before opening with
the owners, with the bar people working at the door,
and we, of course we sat there and just observed
the people coming in and the community was at that
time was a mixture of a gay community, and because
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it's a gay club, hit friendly, so it's a mixture
gay people, not gay people partying together until today. And
all these people were really excited and like high emotional
when they entered. The was super emotional.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Almost instantly, it became a well known party spot and
space to listen and dance to the best techno and
electronic beats in the city in Cyberghind. Everyone was welcome,
here's Tobias Rap again.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
The opening party was one of these crazy events. I
think it went on for seventy two hours and it
was pretty wild. And I remember standing on the stairs
that connect back line the Teco dance flow. I was
standing there just watching this crazy dance floor and next
to me was standing with huge two meters big dangerous
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looking skinhead, hooligan kind of guy. And he was standing
there right beside you, and we were both watching the
next one. And I looked at this huge, statious looking guy,
and I was like, Hey, it's amazing, isn't it. And
he looked at me and smiled and was like hugging
me and was like, yeah, it's amazing. And to me,
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in a way, this stayed in my mind because to
me on the streets. I would never have anything to
do with this person. But this club in a way
was able to transform, transform you for a night and
makes you a better person.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
In a way, a new kind of culture was born.
It was a subculture.
Speaker 6 (20:44):
You don't have to adhere to the super matrix rules
of the commercial world.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
You know.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
That's DJ Cassei.
Speaker 7 (20:53):
I'm a DJ, have been for the last twenty years,
and right now I'm in Mexico for a gig.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
We spoke to DJ Cassie. She was in Tuloom, a
Mexican beach town and haven for tourists and party goers.
Growing up, she never thought she'd become a DJ. She
actually wanted to be an opera singer and who child,
I know what that's like. I thought I was going
into medicine. After years of playing at other underground parties,
the burg Eyne owners liked her sound and gave her
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a shot. She became a resident DJ at Burgeyn, and
the club's culture was everything she wanted.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
No one gave a fact where we came from, what
we were doing. No one gave a fuck if they
were a gay or straight, or in a closet and
having some fun anyway. On the weekend, you know, like
just trying to figure out who they were, and I
was trying to figure out who I was, and I
was allowed to figure out who I was.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
As a DJ.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
DJ Cassie played at Bergheim during its opening month back
in four the winter.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
The best time to go out, and Berlin usually was
from I would say January to April because weather was
shit great.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
You really didn't care if.
Speaker 6 (22:04):
You were hanging out in a club for twenty four hours.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
It was a Friday night and she was twenty nine.
As she walked into the club, she had an overwhelming
sense that she was stepping into something otherworldly, something holy.
Speaker 6 (22:18):
The massive cathedral church sheet tend me to hire room,
you know, and it had like this gallery on the
side with a glass walls.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
You might have heard tracks at the time like this
one hard minimal, driving, powerful yet curious, like hard boots
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walking down a snowy sidewalk on a cold Berlin night.
Cassie would take the other route through the back door
and end up in another part of the club.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
When you're in Bergheim, you can walk to the left
and then walk up the stairs and then you go
into Panorama Bar.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Cassie would play at the Panorama Bar, one of the
two main rooms in Bergheim, the Panorama Bar.
Speaker 6 (23:14):
It has the shutters that lay close down when the
daylight comes, but it's never really dark because it's not
a blackout shutter, it's just an normal shutter. You had
the massive windows on the left, you had the DJ
booth here at the one end, and the bar on
the other end, and around the bar on the back
of the room there was like a hangout area with
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like one leather bench or leather seating along the wall.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
There are also little dark rooms scattered throughout, big enough
for two to four people. These were private sexual spaces.
Speaker 6 (23:49):
So you couldn't really see what was going on. And
then you had the bar seating area. The other bit
along the window was just basically dancing and hanging out
and then the dance right from the djit booths to
the bar, you know. So it was the setup was
extremely brilliant because you could hang out or you could dance.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
There was no way you could.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
Hide and un let's go into one of these little
codes there on the side.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Burghan was perfect. You could dance in the open but
hide away for a moment. And of course most important
was the music.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
But what I loved about it that the records can
have a different impact. You can make them sound in
different ways, so you can mix house and tech no
really well because it's like a very clubby sound, you know.
So it's like whatever is pumping is pumping, it doesn't
matter what it is. And obviously you have longer sets
so you can develop with two people on a journey.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
As for the music, if you wanted to listen to
how style sounds, you'd go upstairs to the Panorama Bar.
If you wanted to dance the night away to hardcore techno,
you stayed downstairs. DJ Cassi credits the owners of Berghin
for confidently making a name for themselves in the evolving
party city.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
I did love the onus and how they saw the
world and how they saw their role in Berlin.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Burghin stamped its reputation as a gay club, but it
also welcomed straight people too. According to DJ Cassei, the
owners knew that they wanted to welcome everyone who moved
a little outside of conventional society.
Speaker 8 (25:27):
They did start a unique way of hosting a certain
form of dance music, or hosting dance music in a
very smart way and also allowing.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
Individuals to be free in an environment where you could
just like dress however you wanted, be who you are
and obviously be respectful to other people and just enjoy yourself.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Burghin became a place for people to connect to music
in a fresh new way.
Speaker 6 (25:59):
It wasn't I meant that was allowing these exchanges.
Speaker 9 (26:03):
And I don't know if that's counterculture, but it's I
think it's like true culture. Maybe it's counter in the
sense it's an untiground culture and people want to go
and want to experience this, and so we do our
own thing, we play by our own roles.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
And that attitude of inclusivity isn't just supported at Burgheye,
it's cultivated.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
I mean for me as a DJ was extremely important
and special because I was appreciated for my individual self,
like no one gave a fuck where I came from,
if it was a girl or not, like Mischa and
or booked me because they like me as a DJ,
and this was always something that was important to me.
It's like to be booked because they like me as
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a DJ, not because they'm a woman. Because you have
blanking heth way and all this stuff, which is obviously
extremely important. I'm not thising this and I get it,
but they're also something that are completely taking away from
what I'm actually interested about, what we should actually be
focusing on.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Berghin played by its own rules and it helped create
a whole new sound in Berlin. Here's journalist Tobias rapp.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Berghein was very important for defining a specific kind of pure,
very minimal, very brutal techno sound. That's the sound that
always had roots in the city.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
As we know by now, techno and house music didn't
start in Berlin, and Berghin wasn't the first club to
introduce it to a broader audience, but it did find
its own unique identity there.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
It's a sound that combines Detroit influences and Chicago influences
but also local Berlin influences into a specific sound that
has to do with the room and with the sound
system in the room. It was very important for that
a sound that had a very industrial kind of element
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in it. And at the same time I think also
that the Panoramaba was also important for exploring house music
as a rough, hard party music, very underlocked to Chicago house, like,
not the nice kind of house, but the rough, evil
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kind of house sound.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Bergheim was a dream come true for DJs. They would
produce experimental tracks, play them at Bergheim, and then watch
the crowd, monitoring their reactions to figure out what was
and was it working. Because like Paradise, Garage, Decititia and
so many other clubs we've explored, Berghem was a musical
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testing ground. It was the place to try out new ideas.
Here's Claudio the club that we heard from earlier.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Every DJ tries to play music that you've never heard
there before. So it's a lot of very experimental and
very undergroundish music because that's like if you play at
Burkhan as a DJ, this is your moment as in
a career of the DJ, so you typically would play
songs no one ever heard and would be like your
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hidden gems, because you don't want to be like a
pop culture DJ.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
New styles were being explored and new music was being
created too.
Speaker 7 (29:34):
And also with Burkhin tech now you can hear like producers.
Speaker 9 (29:38):
Would make tracks that would sound good on.
Speaker 7 (29:40):
This dance youre and I find that very interesting and
amazing how a club can influence certain style of music
and even instigate something you know and I think for
this backtid had a strong effect on the tech we've
seen and gave a lot of producers new inspiration and impetus,
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and allowed a lot of young people to discover something.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Berghem has been opened for almost two decades. Today it's
become too successful for its own good. It's a club
that wants to stay underground, but it's been forced into
the mainstream.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Bergheind is a very very strange beast. I would say
it's a very very exclusive, subcultural place with its own rules.
It's very apart from society, and at the same time
it's super mainstream. It's one of the most well known
places in Germany. Even my parents know about it. Everybody
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knows about it. It's as famous for Berlin as the
place where the Philarmonic Orchestra place.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
In twenty sixteen, Bergheim was listed as a cultural venue
by Germany, which means this ultra private club is considered
high art. In Germany, entertainment venues are taxed at a
high rate. It's being labeled a cultural hub. Burgein's tax
got cut by more than half. Burghine for this and
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other reasons, has remained impervious to the many economic factors
that have driven nightclubs out of business. Namely, they're so
frequently started underground and on a shoestring, so when cities
like Berlin grow richer, those clubs go out of business.
Burghine has managed to preserve its identity in part because
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the city has recognized the club as an important cultural landmark,
but also because the founders have insisted it remain exclusive.
The owners still have control of the culture inside. It's
still private, it's still selective. Berlin, on the other hand,
has embraced its new identity as a cultural epicenter.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
It's still an autistic hub. I think also because the
city doesn't have that much other things. It has the
politics system and it has culture, but we don't have industry.
We don't have finance, we don't have advertisement, we don't
have publishing houses or The industry that makes Germany a
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wealthy nation is in southern Germany. It's not in Berlin,
not at all.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
According to Tobias, Berlin does have an up and coming
tech industry, but it's still in its infant stages. In
his eyes, Berlin might not have a lot of things,
but it does know one thing for sure.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
The city itself now knows what it has in its nightlife.
It's billions of euros that the nightlife and the music
industry brings into the city.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
So much so that during the height of the COVID
nineteen pandemic, the Berlin government gave nightclubs grants to help
them weather through the economic hardships. Because clubs like Burghin
are what draw people to Berlin.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Burkehin is a symbol for a certain freedom and the
possibility of an artistic life and the creative life. If
you want to be a unisporrying artist, you can still
come to Berlin. But Backhand was a symbol for that,
and maybe it still is a symbol for that.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Berlin has worked so hard to be the Berlin of today.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
I remember the time when it was impossible for Germans
to see themselves as cool. Germans didn't see their country
as culturally attractive.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Now, the people of a once divided city see Berlin
as one whole and as one of the most culturally
important cities in the world. Tobias has a final thought
for those who want to visit.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
It's a beautiful and lively scene, but it's also a
bubble in a way, and I think that's the beauty
of it. Subculture is always living in about the subculture
is not that much the real life. That's why we
go into subculture because it's something else, you know. But
if you're living this life, you should never forget that
it's a very special and fragile thing that you're living in.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
And if you're lucky enough to get into Berkhin, remember
one thing.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
This club invites you to be somebody else for a weekend.
This is very important, I think, and it's only possible
because there's a spirit of freedom that pretty much comes
out of the gay queer scene that is really, really,
very very special.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Berkhine has changed lives, but like the saying goes, what
happens in Berkhine stays in Bergkhine. In the next episode,
we're heading to Abitha to spend a whole day and
a whole night at the superclub Space, the most awarded
club in history where people would party in the sun
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and dance under the stars. The History of the World's
Greatest Nightclubs is produced by Neon Hummedia for London Audio
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Humm is Jonathan Hirsch. Our producer is Rufio, Faith Masarura.
Navanni Otero and Liz Sanchez are our associate producers. Our
series producer is Crystal Genesis. Our editor is Stephanie Serrano.
Samantha Allison is our production manager, and Alexis Martinez is
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our production coordinator. This episode was written by Crystal Genesis
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