December 11, 2023 • 44 mins
If you’ve listened to the Call Her Daddy podcast, you probably know A LOT about host Alex Cooper, but Paris is ready to learn about her life BEFORE her famous show.
Paris learns about Alex’s childhood, growing up with a psychologist mother and all the trouble she got into as the youngest of three.
Plus, Paris learns the origin story of how Alex started Call Her Daddy!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wow, I ambarrassed. Hey everyone, I am so excited for
today's guest.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
She is so amazing. I had so much fun with
her on her podcast. She is a super talented producer, creator,
host of the mega hit podcast Call Her Daddy, and
the head of a media empire. I was so honored
to be her guest on her podcast, and today I
get to interview her. Please welcome Alex Cooper to I
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am Paris Hi, Paris Hi.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
I'm so happy to be here.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yes, so good to see you again.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
I know we just saw each other. We were like
upstairs recording Call Her Daddy. No, we're downstairs recording your podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
So much fun.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
How did the party go?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
It was so lit, it was it was sick.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
I didn't get to go to the Oh my god.
I was actually dying laughing telling Matt that, so everyone listening.
When we were recording Call Her Daddy had invited me
to hurt Christmas party and I was so sad. It
was the day that we recorded Color Daddy. That night
you were having the party, and I was like, I'm
so sorry, Like I can't make it because I'm the
most dedicated loyal fiance that walks this earth. Because Matt
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was leaving for a month to go film a movie
and I offered to drive him to Lax And what
was your reaction?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I was like, what, like, that's I've never driven anyone
to the airport.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I just real love.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
I just know that that was like a thing in
LA that was just like, no one ever drives anyone
to the airport because it's hell at lass hell. And
I did it so I couldn't did it? I was
asked I did it. I was because I wanted to
spend some time with him, and it was fine.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
It was you know, I did it for him and he.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Was happy about it. But yeah, I was pretty but
I was sad I missed the party. It looked amazing.
It was so much fun, so much fun. Oh my god.
Like the snow I think is still out there. We
had like a whole the whole house snowed in and
built like a.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Ski slope thing that people could like sled down, and
and every day I would go out there, I'm like,
it's still there. I was gonna go on it like
two days ago, but then I was scared. I was
like if I just like go into like sled really
hard and then just go into like the rocks.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
So that would not be fun.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Right, Like, that wouldn't be really a vibe.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
No, I would not, But yeah, we had so much
fun and it was just epic.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I'm like still recovering.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Yeah. Wait, so you just came back from where we
am Can. Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
So I had the party and then the next morning
flew straight to Can.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
We had to land in Munich.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
It was like a snowed in, so all flights were canceled.
I was like, great, I'm gonna be stuck here. Then
thank god, we got a jet flew directly to Nise
DJed that night, then left four in the morning. I
was like on no sleep for like so many hours,
and then I couldn't even sleep on the plane.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
And now you're here.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Hi.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Hi, Wow, I'm gonna really have to carry this. You're
like I'm half asleep. I'm like, all right, I got it.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I got it.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Just like next time we hang out, I promise I'll
then rested.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
No, I was laughing.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
I promise I won't be at sleep. I was laughing
with your team because they were like, oh, like, you
look so cute, and I'm like, I never dress up
for podcasting and you were like, my fans reached out
to me and they were like, you wore a heel
in the Paris Hiltan episode, Like, oh my god, we've
I've never worn a heel basically on my show ever,
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and I like, dressed up for you and I'm just
laughing that, like you can't get me out of my
sweatpants unless I'm hanging out with Para Sultan and then
I'm like, okay, I'll put on a heel and like
a little skirt.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I was actually asking my Glamor team. I was like, oh,
I go wonder what she's gonna wear, Like what should
I wear? And she's like she's always in hoodies and
sweats She's just like really chill.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
I was like, should we have done that today? We
should have done it.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
So we could be cozy, but we look cue we
do like cu yeah whatever, we're both wearing.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Skirts, so next time will be yeah, cozy, well, cozy up.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
In our sweatsuits and the one you gave me.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Yeah, Ce well or you're on well right now, yes, a.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Little bit, just a little bit. We're going to power through, guys.
This is going to be a fun episode. I think
that whenever I'm the most tired. I feel like it's
like the delusion gets you, and that's when everything becomes funny.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Yes, that makes for good podcasting.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah, I feel like just us together are so fun
no matter what we do. Okay, so let's see what this.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
She's got cards.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
It's getting intense, So I wanted to mix things up
a little bit with this interview. You've built an incredible
empire based on honesty around sex, relationships, and dating. These
next questions are adapted from a study in a New
York Times article that lists thirty six questions one should
ask someone else while dating to accelerate getting to know
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them better.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Oh my god, we're going that's.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I need to ask you these questions first.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Here we go.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Okay, given the choice of anyone in the world besides me,
who would you want as a dinner guest?
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Oh my gosh, that's such a hard question. As amazing
as like celebrities are, I feel like, because that's become
my job where I get to interview people and like
I got to sit with people and get to know them.
I feel like I would probably bring back my grandmother
for a dinner because she was so iconic, Like she
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was probably the most. She was the biggest bitch, and
she was also the funniest woman in the room, and
so she was like always kind of rude but saying
the truth. And so I think that I would love
for her to just see what I've done with my career,
Like she passed before all this happened for me, and
I just feel like if I could have one more
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dinner with her, I know she would be like a
little cozier in the afterlife, because she was always like,
are you gonna make it, Alex, are you gonna make it?
And I wish I could say, like Nana, I made it.
It's all good. And she just always gave me a
good laugh. So probably my grandmother so sweet.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I'm like gonna cry as you're saying, Max and thinking
of my grandmother. And we were so close, and she
passed away when she's sixty four from breast cancer, so young,
and she always just made me feel like I'm the
person who I am today, Like I don't think I
would be who I am without her.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
It's so fascinating, like when you look back on or
if people are still fortunate enough to have their grandparents,
like the relationship is so different than the relationship you
have with your parents, because the parents actually have to
try to attempt to parent, where the grandparents get to
just be like these like wise energies that just come
around and are there to just support you and give
you whatever you want. Like my grandmother would always like
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slip me at twenty and be like, don't tell your parents,
and I'd be like, oh my god, I'm rich, like
she was just so she just they just be kind
of become that person that you're not afraid of because
they're not They're always gonna want to be loved. So
I'm like, Okay, I don't know if that like makes
it bad that I'm like, they never she never parented me,
so she was always my bestie. But yeah, I think
like grandparent relationships are always so cute and they're underrated.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
So I'm glad that we both had that link.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Question should be really proud of you.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Yeah, thank you, Peris. I feel like they're up there
and like they helped make things happen too. Yeah, Guardian Angels.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
No, I like totally believe in that stuff. I remember
when she passed away and I felt so it was
such a strange silence without her around, like even my
mom and I would laugh being like, God, she was
so crazy and like sometimes just like made us go insane.
But that energy when we lost her, it was felt.
And then I think in moments after she passed, we
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found moments in life where we were like, oh my god,
we can so feel her energy here. And I choose
to believe in that stuff because I just feel like
why not, like why not try to find the good
in when people pass, like believing that they're still somewhat
around and they still have like their energy.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Is with us for sure believe that. Yeah, my grandma
always said that she'd be a hummingbird. And this hummingbird
literally always following me around, especially when I go to
Palm Springs where she used to live, well, literally flying
up to the window like putting it speak, like just
like always around like I know.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
It's her, it's her.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
So we missed your Grandma's shut out. We miss you
guys means the ogs literally.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
So before making a telephone call, do you ever rehearse
what you're gonna say?
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Oh my god, it depends who I'm calling, Like I've
had to have obviously, like I've gotten out more used
to having difficult business conversations.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
But for me, it was like really difficult to start
to have to.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Be more of a boss and not be afraid to
assert myself and to have difficult conversations, whether it was
with employees or people.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
In the end, I think we can probably both relate
to the way that we look.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
And just being a woman with a vagina, like people
just naturally don't take you as seriously. So I think
I started definitely practicing more when I got like more
involved in the business side of my career.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
I would practice, and.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Like I would even take like little notes because I
found myself in moments just getting flustered if people tried
to you know, like they try to say things that
then all of a sudden you're like, wait, what was
the what was I trying to say? And you can
get off track. So I definitely practice business conversations. I
feel like boyfriends in the past, oh my god, no,
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I let it rip, Like I didn't need to practice
at all. I feel like I would just like rip
their heads off verbally and have no shame and feel like,
if anything, I didn't want to practice, because I would
if I was like annoyed at a boyfriend back in
the day like ooh, let's see what side of me
comes out today, like good luck. And so no, I
don't really practice, do you.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
It depends like if it's just like a normal phone
call like my sister, obviously I'm not going to practice
for her, but yeah, for certain business calls, because people
do underestimate you just for being blonde. Yep, Like I
don't know just how that's I've dealt with that my
whole career. So I think now that I've just learned
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just to be a boss and just like know what
I'm saying and surprise people.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
I don't think there's anything wrong with being prepared. I
feel like sometimes people feel embarrassed if you're like coughp
prepping or talking in the corner and reading over your notes.
Like something I take pride in is like every room
I walk into, I'm try to be prepared in some capacity.
And I think, especially as women, like we should take
pride in the fact that we take pride in ourselves
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and like I'm I'm proud that I put a lot
of work into what I do. So and again, like
knowing the minute usually I'm walking into a room it's
mostly dominated by men, in this industry, and so like
being prepared for something that is something you should be
proud of yourself that you're putting in the extra work.
And people that make you feel dumb for doing that, well,
that's just you shouldn't feel that way.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Own it.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Own it.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Yeah, be prepared, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
What would constitute is a perfect day for you?
Speaker 4 (11:25):
A perfect day? I think it depends, Like I really
love working, so I don't want to say, like a
perfect day is being on vacation, Like obviously that is
a perfect day, but I am kind of realistic that
I've worked really hard to make sure that, like what
I'm doing, I'm so passionate about, so I'm not miserable
with my job. I feel like a perfect day is
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when I wake up and I get to spend time
with my fiance in the morning, and he brings me
coffee and I'm laying in bed and I'm reading over
my emails and going through social media, and I have
my dogs on the bed with me, and I'm just
having kind of like a peaceful wake up morning and
I don't have to be rushed out of bed. And
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then I would say getting ready and going and having
like an amazing interview. There's something that makes me so
happy when I get a good interview out of someone
and I can feel like there was like a genuine connection,
and I just get genuinely excited. I related a lot
to you when you talked about it in our episode
of like, I love my fans and my audience so much,
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and I think when people don't have platforms. I completely
understand that may sound insane, but like putting out a
good episode to me makes me so happy because I
know there are so many people when I put these
episodes out, whether they were having a bad day at
work and they're like sneakily watching it on their phone
while their boss is being a dick and they're just
like smiling through, or they just they were having a
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great day and it made them feel better, Like whatever
it is, I just get so excited when there's a
good episode. So I'd say recording a good episode and
then coming home and relaxing and watching a lot of
reality TV, and then having dinner with Matt and probably
going in the Chacuzi and having some drinks and then
having some good sex and going to bed and.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Taking inevitable I can say that we're in California. Yeah,
what is your ideal day?
Speaker 1 (13:22):
The same thing, not totally the same, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
The same exact thing. Matt brings me coffee.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Well, I love not being rushed in the morning because
every day I'm working basically, so if I have a
day off, I love just to not be woken up early.
Then I like when Carter walks in. He's holding Phoenix
and then he puts me in bed with me and
I'm just laying in bed with like the puppies, with
the baby. It's just like so happy. Then I go
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downstairs and I have my iconic new cookwear line that's
available at Walmart.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
But that's a good flow.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
But I love cooking, so I'll make like egg for tatas,
and like French toasts, and like bagels with strawberry cream
cheese and fresh creese orange juice, and like rice crispies
with lucky Charms charms like sprinkled on it. Like I
love eating and cooking too. And then I love going
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outside with all the dogs and going in the pool
with the baby.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
And he just loves swimming. He doesn't know how to
swim yet totally, but he likes the water.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
He loves the water just like I don't know, he
just is like a little seal fish, a little morman.
It's just so cute to see him like happy outside.
And then I just love to be at home, like
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I'm always having to be on, always having to work,
always somewhere. So like my ideal vacation or my ideal
like day off or whatever, it's just chilling at home
with the socks, sweatsuit, bun like a hair pulled bag,
just chilling, relaxing.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Yes, there's nothing better than being in like cozy outfit,
no makeup, hair and you're just in your house all day.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Oh love, love, that's a good answer.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
When did you last sing to yourself or to someone else?
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Oh? My god, when did I last to me?
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Stars are blasting, you're running up my sterlls.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
Let's bring it back, even though the gods crazy, that
trying to get you to see what is the first
line of that whole song?
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Even though the gods are crazy, even though the stars
are And if you show me real love, baby, I'll show.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
You what I will say that I think that was
the last time I sang to anybody, And I was
so mad at myself that I couldn't get the words
out because I was laughing so hard, and seeing you
try to sing it made me laugh so hard. I
don't know why it was so funny thinking about you
like cradling your baby, being like.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Even the mother guy's okay, it's so buzy.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Yeah, I guess the last time I saying was with you,
and now we're doing it again.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Name three things that you and your partner appear to
have in common.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Appear to have in common?
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Oh my gosh, Okay, Matt and I both I know
this kind of sounds corny, but like we both love
family time. Like we I feel like prioritize family over anything,
and so I think when I met him, I was
so attracted to him because the way that he treats
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his family and his relationship with his siblings and his parents,
Like I just felt really drawn to his family values.
So I think we definitely have in common just how
much we care about our family, prioritizing our family as
crazy as our lives get, just making time for family time.
I would say we have in common that we we
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love food, Like Matt and I are constantly like, where
is the next place that we have to try? In
La like or whenever we're traveling, like last time we
were in London together, we were having so much fun,
just like trying different foods, even if we hated it,
Like we just have the best time together.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Try.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
I guess trying new things is like something that we
both appreciate in life, and our lives are so busy,
so trying to find those like little moments together to
experience new things together. I think, like, obviously we've both
had such individual lives before we met each other, so
I think creating new experiences together is important to us.
And then I would say something we have in common,
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I would.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Say that we're like both very loyal people.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
I think all of our friends in our life would
like we're the people that our friends call when they're
going through a hard time, when they have a problem,
Like I'm the friends you call, and Matt is the
friend that you call. And so we always laugh, like
whenever we're at the dinner table, if we're home, we're
always like, are you going to pick it up? Because
we know it's one of our friends always calling, and
we put the person on speaker and I'll be like,
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Matt's here, or they'll be Alex's here and so now
people know, like they kind of call us as a
unit whenever they're like I'm having a breakdown, like should
I break up with this person? Or I'm having an
issue with this or work or whatever it is. So
I think we love to just be loyal to the
people that we love.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
I love that. Yeah, I think I'm your best friends.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
We are best best friends. Like I kind of can't
remember what life was like. Well, I can remember what
life was like before Matt, but it was so different.
And I relate a lot to the way that you
speak about Carter, because I think I was someone that
was so threatened by finding a guy that wouldn't be
able to just handle my success and be intimidated by it.
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And I understand that my life is a lot and
even just aside from like the public aspect, like I
love what I do and I am always going to
prioritize work, and that doesn't mean like I wouldn't prioritize family,
but like, I'm really driven and I love what I do.
So I think he being so not only supportive but
like truly my number one cheerleader. It makes me so
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excited and it's so much more attractive when a man
is not threatened by a woman's.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Success, like I forget.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
He was like laughing the other day because I brought
up I saw this movie and the movie was basically
it's on Netflix. It's called fair Play, and I was
laughing because it's like the woman and the man work
in the same industry and she got a raise and
the man had like a meltdown, like he could not
take that his wife was getting this raise.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
And I talked to Mad about it. I was like,
the movie was so good and he was like.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Oh my god, yeah, like you keep making your money, Alex,
Like I'm not threatened at all, like if I have
to be the stay at home dad, like let me know,
like he and it's not in like a deadbeat way
where you're like Jesus Christ, get a job. It's like
he's just he was so supportive and I just love
him so much. And it's not even just about work,
like anything I do when I wake up one day
and I have an idea or if I'm struggling, like
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he's just my best friend and I'm so happy that
I found that, because I for a really long time
was like I'm gonna be fine if I'm single for
the rest of my life and I just have to
like find someone to give me sperm and like I'll
have a kid on my own. Like I literally thought
that that was gonna happen, and I was like completely,
I thought okay with it, And then I met Matt
and I was like, oh wait, never mind.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yes, so crazy when you talk because it just sound
like exactly how I feel inside.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
It's what you're saying. Oh I think it's I know.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
I love that because I think a lot of it
is like when you find your own voice as a woman,
Like we still are carving paths that weren't normal for
our parents, Like our moms weren't raised by being like
you're gonna have this career on your own and like
fight for what you want. Like I know that that's
like our generation is kind of the first generation that's
really being like rewarded, like when you are a woman
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that's going for what you want. Like there's even still
people to this day that are like, h tone it down,
but there are now people enough in a room that
are like, that's amazing, You're.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
A boss bitch, like thrive queen. But it does suck
that there are still people that are like why do
you work so much?
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Like why do you do all that? I'm like, why
does it bother you? Like I don't care what you're doing.
I think it's amazing if you don't want to do
what I do, but I'm happy. So everyone's stay in
their own lane and just like.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Why does everyone cares so true?
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Dealt with that for long?
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Yeah, I bet people are always asking you, like why
do you feel like you have to go to all
these different countries and travel and all of this, And
it's like, well, why do they care? Like as long
as you know, and maybe even in moments if you're
not happy whatever, it is like you're it's your life.
You're making decisions for yourself, and sure the people around
you can be like, hey, Paris, we want to check
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in on you if they can tell that you're not
doing well. But for the most part, I think a
lot of the noises from outside people that don't really
know you, and I.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Relate to that a lot.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
And I think throughout the past I would say, like
year and a half, I got to such a better place,
especially with like social media, where it really doesn't affect
me anymore. When I see me in comments because I
just genuinely feel so solid within myself. That doesn't mean
I don't have bad days, but I just feel so
much more secure that whenever I see comments from people
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being mean, I just actually have empathy because I can't
relate to writing a mean comment online. So my first
reaction now isn't like fuck.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
You, you're a loser.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
It's actually like, oh, I feel bad, Like I wonder
what is going on in that person's life that like
they see me and they get really triggered, Like I
hope they're okay.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yeah, someone has that much time on their hands to
like make fake accounts and just be vicious and mean, and.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
I think sometimes people give it too much power. Like
I feel like for a while there, I feel like
I saw online that so many people had. People would
comment back to things and try to like dispel narratives
or like comment back or like make an episode about things, and.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Like I did that in the past, where I would
be like I saw this, and.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
I want to address it, Like I don't think anyone
should take when you see a user and as like
the gray blob that's like not a human, Like I
don't think it's worth ever responding to people that are
just bringing negativity, but they also don't have the balls
to like not be anonymous, Like I know all those
people probably would never say that if they not only
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if they met me in the street. Like I think
a lot of these people, if they met half the
people that they're bullying online, I bet you would actually
like they would be surprised how much they actually like
people that they're bullying. Like, I think half of the
bullies online are actually like very enamored with the people
they're bullying. I think like people probably coming at you
are like so pissed that you like finally had kids
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and you're finally just like feeling really good about yourself,
and it's so obvious online what a great place you're in.
So I feel like half of those people are just
like trying to even just get attention, like I'm sure
you've had that where if you ever do respond, they're like,
wea queen, Like I'm sorry, I didn't think you'd see this,
And it's like, then why were you writing that in
the first place.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yeah, just it blows my mind how some people could
be online. But I've noticed it's gotten so much better now.
People used to be so mean. But now it's just
I don't really read the comments as much because I
don't have the time, but if I do, it's just
the sweetest.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Nicest comments.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Yeah, so I feel like people I don't know see
me as more of a human now.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
I also think that I understand we're both sitting here
with like a lot of people that follow us. I
think it's sadly really relatable for even someone listening that
has like a hundred followers of their friends, like you.
People I know people have messaged me saying like they
walked into school and they saw people laughing at the
picture they posted, and it's like it's social media just
creates like this paranoia that people are not liking it
(24:58):
enough or oh my god, did I get enough comments,
I get enough likes?
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Should I delete the picture? And I think if we
can all get to.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
A better place of like, but you liked the picture,
like you posted that picture for a reason, like own
it and who cares if no one else likes it? Like,
I think we're giving people way too much power and
we just have to kind of start taking the power back.
Like if you're happy, then yeah, those comments genuinely can't
affect you. And I feel like we're kind of both
in that era of like I don't really give.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
A shit, it's true, but I can't imagine being a
teenager and having all this this is.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Like a lot.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
It just stresses me out for kids, because they shouldn't
have that much information and they shouldn't have that much
feedback about the way they look. And you shouldn't be
able to be living in one state and then be
like looking at these kids that live somewhere else that
like have a complete different lifestyle, and whether it's economic
status or just whatever, it is, like just like looks wise.
I think also women specifically, like young girls are just
(25:53):
way oversaturated seeing so many.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Beautiful people where it's like is it a filter?
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Like is it a lot of me behind? Like you
don't know, So I just yeah, if young people listen
to this podcast, I just hope you know, like don't
read into it because half the time, the people that
are making those videos like they're not in a great
place either, Like we're all just searching to be accepted.
And I think when you try to compare yourself, that's
where you can just get truly so so lost and
(26:20):
go down like a really bad spiral.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
I know it could be toxic, place scary.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
That's not off real, get off everyone more all the story,
delete every form of social media and go read a book.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Go read my new book Faris And then what, oh
my god, you read my book?
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Yes, yes, no, And I think I think a lot
of what, like I talked about in our episode, a
lot of what we touched on is the more that
you open up and become more human to people. I think,
like you're experiencing, people are now being so much warmer
to you because I bet for a long time people
were just trying to get at you, to be like
react bitch, like say something because they didn't know you.
(27:01):
And I think now people really feel like we get her,
and you've been vulnerable, Not that you needed to in
order to gain respect, but it's interesting to see how
people have shifted with you, being like, we now love
you even more because you've shown us another side of yourself.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
She thinks great, thinks me happy, I.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Love you, I love you.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
So your mom as a psychologist, so must have impacted
your childood a lot.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
How was that?
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (27:33):
But that, honestly, it was it almost like went in waves,
like when I was really little, I felt so fortunate
to have such an insightful mother that was so just
like aware of mental health. And I even look back
at like my childhood of like and I'm sure you
feel the same way, Like no one talked about mental health,
Like it wasn't really a conversation until the last couple
(27:55):
of years it started to really become more normalized.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
But my mom.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
Always was so incredible in our household, just like making
sure we all felt seen, and would come into our
bedrooms at night and just check in on us and
like force us to have a conversation with her and
just to like dig deep. And she could always tell
when something was wrong with us. Like she was just
like a very in tune mother. When I got to
high school, different story, I was livid. I'm like, mom,
(28:23):
why can't you just be like the other moms? Like
my mom would always know when I was lying. I
could never pull anything over on her. She just like
all of my friends. We would tell our parents, like
we're going to the movies tonight, and all the parents
would be like, have the best time, and my mom
would be like always, so, when are you going to
tell me that you're not going to the movies because
I know you're not going to the movies and I'm.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Like, mom, like leave me alone.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
So she was always so aware, and I know it
was coming from such a loving place of just not
wanting me to get hurt or put myself in a
bad situation, because aside from just not wanting me to
like be in a position or I could be involved
in something that was bad, like I also was just
like very competitively playing soccer at that point, and I
(29:09):
was hoping to get a scholarship to go to college.
And so I remember like so many people around me
like getting underages at in like parties, and cops would come.
And I couldn't have that happen to me because then
I wouldn't get a scholarship, and my parents weren't in
a position that they could afford for me to just
go to college and then pay for it, so I
would have so many loans. And I just tried to
(29:31):
really focus on, like if I can utilize what I
am really good at, which is sports, like try to
stay on this like straight and narrow path. But I
definitely think sometimes the amount of her trying to keep
me on that path sometimes I really rebelled which I
relate to you in some ways. In that way, like
(29:53):
I was the youngest. I am the youngest of three,
so being the youngest I was, I was my parents'
biggest hit. Like I was a nightmare in high school,
and like I remember my parents not letting me date
this guy that I was so in love with, and
like he was just not a good guy, like the
bad boy at the public school when I was at
(30:14):
this private school, and like the only reason again I
could afford to be there is because I got a
scholarship for high school to play soccer, and like my
parents were doing everything to not let me see this boy.
And I remember going on like eBay and like buying
this little like retractable ladder, like oh, and then I
bought it, and I remember it got delivered and my
dad was like what is this And I posed it
(30:37):
as like, oh, it's one.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Of those like soccer ladders that I have to do drills. Yes,
but really it was so that I could.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
Put it down my window and like holster it up
and try to sneak out, and I fully got caught
and it was a disaster. But like I was always
trying to find ways to sneak out, like I would
leave my phone in the mailbox because my mom had
a tracker on me, and she would be like, oh,
she's safe and sound, but like, no, my phone was
just like whether I would keep it in the mailbox
(31:05):
of my friend's houses and be like, I stayed at
Anna's house. Mom, we had the cutest girls sleepover. We
made cookies. Meanwhile, I'm like at some party drinking and
just like getting into dumb shit. But I look back
and I really appreciate how much she tried to be
so loving back then, because I it definitely kept me
from doing some really dumb shit that I could have
(31:26):
gone down the wrong path. I think playing such competitive
sports was like you're just constantly being told where to be,
what to do, and I just had a lot of
rebellious energy within me that I was like, I don't
want to do this, Like I'll do it on the
soccer field, and I love soccer, but the minute I'm done, like,
let's go drink, let's go party, let's go find boys.
(31:48):
And so I was definitely boy crazy in high school
and my mother was like, please please don't get pregnant,
like and I get it. It's different for with like
my I have an older brother and like it wasn't
like that for him, because I can imagine one day
if I am lucky enough to become a mother, like
it is hard with girls, like my mom being a
(32:09):
psychologist was such a positive. But yeah, when I was
in my rebellious face, I was like, can you like
be a little less aware, like can you not.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Read the room all the time?
Speaker 4 (32:18):
And no. But she's the best and she's my best friend.
And we've had so many ups and downs in our
relationships because we're so similar. And I think that's when
you can butt heads the most with someone. Is like
I love her so much, and I also in moments
and like stop. But it's also like, because I'm staring directly,
I feel like sometimes at myself and I'm like, this
(32:38):
is so scary.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Does she ever get mad at you?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Just like at any of the podcasts in the past
when you talked about anything crazy.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Like your dad and your mom, Like.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
I was so fortunate because my parents from the beginning
days of call her Daddy, I remember not having a
fear in the world, Like I did not have one
bone in my body that was nervous about what my
parents were gonna think. My parents are so supportive of me.
And when I was younger, I was always making really
(33:13):
embarrassing like music videos and skits and movies at my house,
and my house was always the place that my friends
would come and I would force them to be like
characters in my skits that I wrote, and I'm like, Okay,
you're gonna be this character, like sit there, and I
would direct all my friends and I was kind of
bossy and I'm like, listen to me, like this has
to be incredible, and like, Alex, where is this going?
Like this is not a feature film. I like one
(33:34):
day it will be, so please just listen and read
your lines. And my parents always were so proud that
I had that passion. So when I started to call
her daddy, I feel like they really weren't surprised, Like
I think they were very aware that it was a character.
It was not lost on them. But I think it
was difficult for my parents. A lot of extended family
(33:57):
members were really nasty, and I remember my mom just
sharing with me not at the time, which I'm thankful for,
because she was like, I don't want to share this
with Alex because it will affect her, but now she
shares with me, like conversations that she had with some
people that like are in my extended family that were
like she is looks like a whore, and she's speaking
(34:20):
and she seems just like she's lost her mind. And
my parents were so protective of me and they never
doubted me. And I'm so aware that, like I'm so
privileged to even be able to say that, because I
know sometimes it's so hard when like your parents are
the only people you want to believe in you, and
when they're the people that don't stand by you and
(34:41):
don't advocate for you, it's really hard to do it
for yourself. And so I feel like that's the one thing.
I mean, there's a lot of things, but the one
thing I really always think my parents for is like
how supportive they were, because I don't know, I definitely
would have been doing what I'm doing today, but it
wouldn't have been as easy, Like I didn't have to
blink an eye when I was upl those episodes and
some of them being so salacious and talking about sex
(35:04):
so openly, like as a woman in.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Media, it was of course I got backlash.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
But to know at home my parents were like giving
me a hug whenever I went home from New York
to see them, and they were like, we're so proud
of you. It's not to say that my dad and
my brother were like we're not gonna listen to some
of the episodes or like we're gonna just listen to
the beginning when you tell funny stories, and then when
you get into the sex stuff, we turn it off.
I totally get that, Like I completely understand for some
(35:30):
people it was a lot, but my parents were just yeah,
they were.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Like ride or die for it.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
And I will always thank them for that because, like
I remember, my mom was like I went to the
grocery store one week and I ran into this woman
who was a mom of like a girl that I
went to middle school with, and she was like, I'm
in the egg department, like I'm by the freezers and
like the refrigerators, and this woman just like stops holding
this like big jar of sour cream as I'm like
(35:56):
picking up my eggs, and she's like, God, like your
daughter is a disgrace to this town. And she just
like walked away, and my mom was like, oh, I
had so many fucking nasty things I could have said
to that bitch, and like, my mom like has a
mouth on her and like she's but she never uses it.
I'm like, Mom, you should have roasted her, but she's like,
I don't need to. That's the funny thing, is like,
(36:18):
and she's probably where I learned, like you don't always
have to respond to people. My mom's like why even
give them the energy, like like what buy your sour cream?
Speaker 3 (36:26):
And leave?
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Like why are you talking? I don't even know who
you are. So I was like, Okay, you're right, mom,
but they're the best. I'm really really fortunate and yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Very lucky. Think you know a lot of parents let's
be terrified.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Yeah. Literally, So how did call her daddy come about?
How did she think of, oh my god, everything?
Speaker 4 (36:50):
Well, I think kind of like I said, like, I
always knew I wanted to do something in media, and
it was really stressful at the time because I had
gotten this job that was truly I was so miserable Paris,
Like I was working at this ad sales job for
a magazine, and I feel like working for a magazine
(37:10):
sounds glamorous, but like this specific position, I was just
miserable and I was I just knew I wanted to
do something creatively, and I was like prince dying, like
let me out of here, like it's not but at
the time, I was like I want something in the
digital world, and I was just so bored. And then
I remember I all of the women got like pulled
into the room one day and our boss was like,
(37:33):
I'm so sorry, but like we have to let all
of you go, like the company's not doing well, like
we had to lay you all off, and like everyone
starts sobbing in the room and I'm like fuck, yes,
like yes, Like I remember leaving that day. I left
the office. I packed my shit up so fast, and
I like went out into the streets of New York
and I was like smiling ear to ear and like
all the women behind me were like literally sobbing, puffy,
(37:53):
and like I had no money. I had no job.
Now I was on unemployment checks. But I was like
kind of happy that I was forced to try to
do something that I loved, and I was like, this
is this sign that it's time to try to go
for what I want to do, which I knew I
wanted to create some type of show. I didn't know
I wanted it to be a podcast. At the time
(38:14):
I really thought it was.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Gonna year was this This.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Is twenty eighteen. So I was twenty two twenty.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
Three and I had gone through a huge breakup, and
I will being on a soccer team my whole life,
Like I was always the girl like giving everyone advice,
like you want to get this guy, like give me
your phone, Like I'm gonna be the girl that's always
taking my girlfriend's phones and texting the guys for them,
Like I will literally be sexting.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
For you if you need me to do it.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
I'll take your nudes, like I am like in it
to win it for the girls. And I've just always
been like I kind of always just knew how to
talk to guys, Like when I was younger, no guy
wanted to talk to me, but like I would take
my friend's phones and I would pretend to be them.
And so I just loved giving advice and just sharing
my experience. And so when I thought about starting a show,
(39:00):
I just thought about, like I feel like there's no
women talking just so freely, about the way that I
talk with my friends and my girlfriends when we're like
in the living room having debriefs, it just felt like
there was no one filling that place in the market,
Like it was almost like it kind of reminded me
lightly of the Howard Stern version of like there was
no woman kind of doing it. And of course there
(39:22):
were iterations of it, but I felt like for my
generation that like Zillennial point, I was like, no one's
doing this. So I remember my roommate at the time.
I was like, do you want to start a podcast
with me? And she was like sure, like I have
a job, but I'll do it with you if you
want to do it. And so I remember like writing
the first outline for the first episode, and I thought
(39:42):
it was going to be a YouTube show at first,
but then just like actually the budget itself was just
too difficult to do a YouTube show. So I'm like,
maybe a podcast is easier. No one was doing podcasts
back then, but I'm like, maybe we'll make it cool,
like maybe we'll like have podcasting become cool, And it
wasn't back then. Like when I think about podcasting, I
always say, like I thought about my dad, Like my
(40:05):
dad driving to work listening to like the radio or
a podcast. So I'm like, how can we make podcasting hot?
And sexy, and we recorded the first episode, and I
remember being like in a room with all men that
were like doing the tech equipment, and all of them
were like giggling and laughing and like trying to cover
their faces. And I remember, like the first episode, literally
(40:26):
I recognize, like, holy shit, I have something here, Like
I'm watching all these men laugh at like a woman
telling a joke, Like, clearly there's something here for this brand.
And it was just kind of crazy. And how the
name came about is so funny. Like I remember trying
to come up with so many different names with my
former co host, and we were just like trying to
(40:47):
put our heads together, just like trying to figure it out.
And I remember we came home one day after sitting
for literally like seven hours in a coffee shop like
writing down the worst names ever. And we get home
and we're exhausted, and I go into my room and
I put on this hoodie and it was a hoodie
that I had bought from like online in college and
(41:08):
it just said Daddy on the chest. And I bought
this in college because I remember, like I was such
a little shit in college and I was always fucking
with the guys and like messing with their minds and
just trying to like play the game. And I remember
I bought this because I thought it would be so
funny to like where to parties, because it would be
a conversation starter, like and it was all the guys
would always be like, why do you have daddy on
(41:29):
your shirt? And I'm like, because I am, and then
they'd be like so uncomfortable. And I thought it was
so funny to make on men uncomfortable back then, and
that was the purpose of the hoodie. And so I
remember I'm standing in the kitchen and I look at
her and I'm like, what if it has to do
with like daddy, like something with daddy, and like, but
we're daddy, And so at first we came up with
(41:50):
like call us daddy, and then I was like, wait,
what about like no, like call her like more specific
for the woman, and then call her Daddy. Was just
born in like a little apartment in the side, and
it's been amazing ever.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Father Cooper was born.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
Father Cooper was born that day.
Speaker 4 (42:08):
It's so funny when I'm with my dad and I'm
walking around if I'm like in New York or something,
and people are like father or like daddy and my
Dad's like, oh, this will never get normal.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
I'm like, I love your dad.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Sorry, I'm a part of the daddy gang too.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Yes, And I was listening to you during the pandemic
and you just like made it so much more interesting.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
I love you, sweet. Oh my god, that's crazy to know.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
Just like younger me, like I just I still do
like idolizing you of just like you're just so you're
just like that type of woman that I think so
many of us look up to. And I feel like
you have such a good head on your shoulders, and
I feel like I really relate to you of the
whole character that you talk about building, not that it's
(42:55):
not like a part of you is that character, but
there's certain things with business that like you lay up
certain parts of yourself, like like I always say I
don't naturally talk for an hour and just like never
shut up, but like I.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
Need to entertain people, so I'm gonna keep talking.
Speaker 4 (43:08):
And I've always just admired you so much of the
way that you're able to be so authentically yourself but
also like lean in when you know like it works
for your brand and like sell yourself and like have
no fear that, Like I don't care if people don't
like me, Like this is my brand, this is who
I am, and like take it or leave it, Like
I definitely, I definitely took a part of that and
(43:31):
like added that to my repertoire from you, like looking
up to you and just watching you and idolizing you.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
So thank you for being you. You're amazing.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
I love you, love you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
Yes, yes, well that was so much fun talking about
the past with you, and I can't wait for the
next episode where we're talking about the present.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
I can't wait. Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
Yes, thank you, Bye guys, Seson, thanks for listening to
I in Paris.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Don't forget to follow us on Instagram, I Am Paris Podcast,
Email us at Paris.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
At iHeartRadio dot com. Be hot and subscribe now. Love
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Wow, I ambarrassed. Hey everyone, I am so excited for
today's guest.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
She is so amazing. I had so much fun with
her on her podcast. She is a super talented producer, creator,
host of the mega hit podcast Call Her Daddy, and
the head of a media empire. I was so honored
to be her guest on her podcast, and today I
get to interview her. Please welcome Alex Cooper to I
(00:34):
am Paris Hi, Paris Hi.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
I'm so happy to be here.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yes, so good to see you again.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
I know we just saw each other. We were like
upstairs recording Call Her Daddy. No, we're downstairs recording your podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
So much fun.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
How did the party go?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
It was so lit, it was it was sick.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
I didn't get to go to the Oh my god.
I was actually dying laughing telling Matt that, so everyone listening.
When we were recording Call Her Daddy had invited me
to hurt Christmas party and I was so sad. It
was the day that we recorded Color Daddy. That night
you were having the party, and I was like, I'm
so sorry, Like I can't make it because I'm the
most dedicated loyal fiance that walks this earth. Because Matt
(01:15):
was leaving for a month to go film a movie
and I offered to drive him to Lax And what
was your reaction?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I was like, what, like, that's I've never driven anyone
to the airport.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I just real love.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
I just know that that was like a thing in
LA that was just like, no one ever drives anyone
to the airport because it's hell at lass hell. And
I did it so I couldn't did it? I was
asked I did it. I was because I wanted to
spend some time with him, and it was fine.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
It was you know, I did it for him and he.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Was happy about it. But yeah, I was pretty but
I was sad I missed the party. It looked amazing.
It was so much fun, so much fun. Oh my god.
Like the snow I think is still out there. We
had like a whole the whole house snowed in and
built like a.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Ski slope thing that people could like sled down, and
and every day I would go out there, I'm like,
it's still there. I was gonna go on it like
two days ago, but then I was scared. I was
like if I just like go into like sled really
hard and then just go into like the rocks.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
So that would not be fun.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Right, Like, that wouldn't be really a vibe.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
No, I would not, But yeah, we had so much
fun and it was just epic.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I'm like still recovering.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Yeah. Wait, so you just came back from where we
am Can. Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
So I had the party and then the next morning
flew straight to Can.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
We had to land in Munich.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
It was like a snowed in, so all flights were canceled.
I was like, great, I'm gonna be stuck here. Then
thank god, we got a jet flew directly to Nise
DJed that night, then left four in the morning. I
was like on no sleep for like so many hours,
and then I couldn't even sleep on the plane.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
And now you're here.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Hi.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Hi, Wow, I'm gonna really have to carry this. You're
like I'm half asleep. I'm like, all right, I got it.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I got it.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Just like next time we hang out, I promise I'll
then rested.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
No, I was laughing.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
I promise I won't be at sleep. I was laughing
with your team because they were like, oh, like, you
look so cute, and I'm like, I never dress up
for podcasting and you were like, my fans reached out
to me and they were like, you wore a heel
in the Paris Hiltan episode, Like, oh my god, we've
I've never worn a heel basically on my show ever,
(03:28):
and I like, dressed up for you and I'm just
laughing that, like you can't get me out of my
sweatpants unless I'm hanging out with Para Sultan and then
I'm like, okay, I'll put on a heel and like
a little skirt.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I was actually asking my Glamor team. I was like, oh,
I go wonder what she's gonna wear, Like what should
I wear? And she's like she's always in hoodies and
sweats She's just like really chill.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
I was like, should we have done that today? We
should have done it.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
So we could be cozy, but we look cue we
do like cu yeah whatever, we're both wearing.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Skirts, so next time will be yeah, cozy, well, cozy up.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
In our sweatsuits and the one you gave me.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Yeah, Ce well or you're on well right now, yes, a.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Little bit, just a little bit. We're going to power through, guys.
This is going to be a fun episode. I think
that whenever I'm the most tired. I feel like it's
like the delusion gets you, and that's when everything becomes funny.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Yes, that makes for good podcasting.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah, I feel like just us together are so fun
no matter what we do. Okay, so let's see what this.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
She's got cards.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
It's getting intense, So I wanted to mix things up
a little bit with this interview. You've built an incredible
empire based on honesty around sex, relationships, and dating. These
next questions are adapted from a study in a New
York Times article that lists thirty six questions one should
ask someone else while dating to accelerate getting to know
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them better.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Oh my god, we're going that's.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I need to ask you these questions first.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Here we go.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Okay, given the choice of anyone in the world besides me,
who would you want as a dinner guest?
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Oh my gosh, that's such a hard question. As amazing
as like celebrities are, I feel like, because that's become
my job where I get to interview people and like
I got to sit with people and get to know them.
I feel like I would probably bring back my grandmother
for a dinner because she was so iconic, Like she
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was probably the most. She was the biggest bitch, and
she was also the funniest woman in the room, and
so she was like always kind of rude but saying
the truth. And so I think that I would love
for her to just see what I've done with my career,
Like she passed before all this happened for me, and
I just feel like if I could have one more
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dinner with her, I know she would be like a
little cozier in the afterlife, because she was always like,
are you gonna make it, Alex, are you gonna make it?
And I wish I could say, like Nana, I made it.
It's all good. And she just always gave me a
good laugh. So probably my grandmother so sweet.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I'm like gonna cry as you're saying, Max and thinking
of my grandmother. And we were so close, and she
passed away when she's sixty four from breast cancer, so young,
and she always just made me feel like I'm the
person who I am today, Like I don't think I
would be who I am without her.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
It's so fascinating, like when you look back on or
if people are still fortunate enough to have their grandparents,
like the relationship is so different than the relationship you
have with your parents, because the parents actually have to
try to attempt to parent, where the grandparents get to
just be like these like wise energies that just come
around and are there to just support you and give
you whatever you want. Like my grandmother would always like
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slip me at twenty and be like, don't tell your parents,
and I'd be like, oh my god, I'm rich, like
she was just so she just they just be kind
of become that person that you're not afraid of because
they're not They're always gonna want to be loved. So
I'm like, Okay, I don't know if that like makes
it bad that I'm like, they never she never parented me,
so she was always my bestie. But yeah, I think
like grandparent relationships are always so cute and they're underrated.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
So I'm glad that we both had that link.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Question should be really proud of you.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Yeah, thank you, Peris. I feel like they're up there
and like they helped make things happen too. Yeah, Guardian Angels.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
No, I like totally believe in that stuff. I remember
when she passed away and I felt so it was
such a strange silence without her around, like even my
mom and I would laugh being like, God, she was
so crazy and like sometimes just like made us go insane.
But that energy when we lost her, it was felt.
And then I think in moments after she passed, we
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found moments in life where we were like, oh my god,
we can so feel her energy here. And I choose
to believe in that stuff because I just feel like
why not, like why not try to find the good
in when people pass, like believing that they're still somewhat
around and they still have like their energy.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Is with us for sure believe that. Yeah, my grandma
always said that she'd be a hummingbird. And this hummingbird
literally always following me around, especially when I go to
Palm Springs where she used to live, well, literally flying
up to the window like putting it speak, like just
like always around like I know.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
It's her, it's her.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
So we missed your Grandma's shut out. We miss you
guys means the ogs literally.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
So before making a telephone call, do you ever rehearse
what you're gonna say?
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Oh my god, it depends who I'm calling, Like I've
had to have obviously, like I've gotten out more used
to having difficult business conversations.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
But for me, it was like really difficult to start
to have to.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Be more of a boss and not be afraid to
assert myself and to have difficult conversations, whether it was
with employees or people.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
In the end, I think we can probably both relate
to the way that we look.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
And just being a woman with a vagina, like people
just naturally don't take you as seriously. So I think
I started definitely practicing more when I got like more
involved in the business side of my career.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
I would practice, and.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Like I would even take like little notes because I
found myself in moments just getting flustered if people tried
to you know, like they try to say things that
then all of a sudden you're like, wait, what was
the what was I trying to say? And you can
get off track. So I definitely practice business conversations. I
feel like boyfriends in the past, oh my god, no,
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I let it rip, Like I didn't need to practice
at all. I feel like I would just like rip
their heads off verbally and have no shame and feel like,
if anything, I didn't want to practice, because I would
if I was like annoyed at a boyfriend back in
the day like ooh, let's see what side of me
comes out today, like good luck. And so no, I
don't really practice, do you.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
It depends like if it's just like a normal phone
call like my sister, obviously I'm not going to practice
for her, but yeah, for certain business calls, because people
do underestimate you just for being blonde. Yep, Like I
don't know just how that's I've dealt with that my
whole career. So I think now that I've just learned
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just to be a boss and just like know what
I'm saying and surprise people.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
I don't think there's anything wrong with being prepared. I
feel like sometimes people feel embarrassed if you're like coughp
prepping or talking in the corner and reading over your notes.
Like something I take pride in is like every room
I walk into, I'm try to be prepared in some capacity.
And I think, especially as women, like we should take
pride in the fact that we take pride in ourselves
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and like I'm I'm proud that I put a lot
of work into what I do. So and again, like
knowing the minute usually I'm walking into a room it's
mostly dominated by men, in this industry, and so like
being prepared for something that is something you should be
proud of yourself that you're putting in the extra work.
And people that make you feel dumb for doing that, well,
that's just you shouldn't feel that way.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Own it.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Own it.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Yeah, be prepared, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
What would constitute is a perfect day for you?
Speaker 4 (11:25):
A perfect day? I think it depends, Like I really
love working, so I don't want to say, like a
perfect day is being on vacation, Like obviously that is
a perfect day, but I am kind of realistic that
I've worked really hard to make sure that, like what
I'm doing, I'm so passionate about, so I'm not miserable
with my job. I feel like a perfect day is
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when I wake up and I get to spend time
with my fiance in the morning, and he brings me
coffee and I'm laying in bed and I'm reading over
my emails and going through social media, and I have
my dogs on the bed with me, and I'm just
having kind of like a peaceful wake up morning and
I don't have to be rushed out of bed. And
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then I would say getting ready and going and having
like an amazing interview. There's something that makes me so
happy when I get a good interview out of someone
and I can feel like there was like a genuine connection,
and I just get genuinely excited. I related a lot
to you when you talked about it in our episode
of like, I love my fans and my audience so much,
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and I think when people don't have platforms. I completely
understand that may sound insane, but like putting out a
good episode to me makes me so happy because I
know there are so many people when I put these
episodes out, whether they were having a bad day at
work and they're like sneakily watching it on their phone
while their boss is being a dick and they're just
like smiling through, or they just they were having a
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great day and it made them feel better, Like whatever
it is, I just get so excited when there's a
good episode. So I'd say recording a good episode and
then coming home and relaxing and watching a lot of
reality TV, and then having dinner with Matt and probably
going in the Chacuzi and having some drinks and then
having some good sex and going to bed and.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Taking inevitable I can say that we're in California. Yeah,
what is your ideal day?
Speaker 1 (13:22):
The same thing, not totally the same, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
The same exact thing. Matt brings me coffee.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Well, I love not being rushed in the morning because
every day I'm working basically, so if I have a
day off, I love just to not be woken up early.
Then I like when Carter walks in. He's holding Phoenix
and then he puts me in bed with me and
I'm just laying in bed with like the puppies, with
the baby. It's just like so happy. Then I go
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downstairs and I have my iconic new cookwear line that's
available at Walmart.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
But that's a good flow.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
But I love cooking, so I'll make like egg for tatas,
and like French toasts, and like bagels with strawberry cream
cheese and fresh creese orange juice, and like rice crispies
with lucky Charms charms like sprinkled on it. Like I
love eating and cooking too. And then I love going
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outside with all the dogs and going in the pool
with the baby.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
And he just loves swimming. He doesn't know how to
swim yet totally, but he likes the water.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
He loves the water just like I don't know, he
just is like a little seal fish, a little morman.
It's just so cute to see him like happy outside.
And then I just love to be at home, like
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I'm always having to be on, always having to work,
always somewhere. So like my ideal vacation or my ideal
like day off or whatever, it's just chilling at home
with the socks, sweatsuit, bun like a hair pulled bag,
just chilling, relaxing.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Yes, there's nothing better than being in like cozy outfit,
no makeup, hair and you're just in your house all day.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Oh love, love, that's a good answer.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
When did you last sing to yourself or to someone else?
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Oh? My god, when did I last to me?
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Stars are blasting, you're running up my sterlls.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
Let's bring it back, even though the gods crazy, that
trying to get you to see what is the first
line of that whole song?
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Even though the gods are crazy, even though the stars
are And if you show me real love, baby, I'll show.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
You what I will say that I think that was
the last time I sang to anybody, And I was
so mad at myself that I couldn't get the words
out because I was laughing so hard, and seeing you
try to sing it made me laugh so hard. I
don't know why it was so funny thinking about you
like cradling your baby, being like.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Even the mother guy's okay, it's so buzy.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Yeah, I guess the last time I saying was with you,
and now we're doing it again.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Name three things that you and your partner appear to
have in common.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Appear to have in common?
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Oh my gosh, Okay, Matt and I both I know
this kind of sounds corny, but like we both love
family time. Like we I feel like prioritize family over anything,
and so I think when I met him, I was
so attracted to him because the way that he treats
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his family and his relationship with his siblings and his parents,
Like I just felt really drawn to his family values.
So I think we definitely have in common just how
much we care about our family, prioritizing our family as
crazy as our lives get, just making time for family time.
I would say we have in common that we we
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love food, Like Matt and I are constantly like, where
is the next place that we have to try? In
La like or whenever we're traveling, like last time we
were in London together, we were having so much fun,
just like trying different foods, even if we hated it,
Like we just have the best time together.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Try.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
I guess trying new things is like something that we
both appreciate in life, and our lives are so busy,
so trying to find those like little moments together to
experience new things together. I think, like, obviously we've both
had such individual lives before we met each other, so
I think creating new experiences together is important to us.
And then I would say something we have in common,
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I would.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Say that we're like both very loyal people.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
I think all of our friends in our life would
like we're the people that our friends call when they're
going through a hard time, when they have a problem,
Like I'm the friends you call, and Matt is the
friend that you call. And so we always laugh, like
whenever we're at the dinner table, if we're home, we're
always like, are you going to pick it up? Because
we know it's one of our friends always calling, and
we put the person on speaker and I'll be like,
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Matt's here, or they'll be Alex's here and so now
people know, like they kind of call us as a
unit whenever they're like I'm having a breakdown, like should
I break up with this person? Or I'm having an
issue with this or work or whatever it is. So
I think we love to just be loyal to the
people that we love.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
I love that. Yeah, I think I'm your best friends.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
We are best best friends. Like I kind of can't
remember what life was like. Well, I can remember what
life was like before Matt, but it was so different.
And I relate a lot to the way that you
speak about Carter, because I think I was someone that
was so threatened by finding a guy that wouldn't be
able to just handle my success and be intimidated by it.
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And I understand that my life is a lot and
even just aside from like the public aspect, like I
love what I do and I am always going to
prioritize work, and that doesn't mean like I wouldn't prioritize family,
but like, I'm really driven and I love what I do.
So I think he being so not only supportive but
like truly my number one cheerleader. It makes me so
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excited and it's so much more attractive when a man
is not threatened by a woman's.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Success, like I forget.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
He was like laughing the other day because I brought
up I saw this movie and the movie was basically
it's on Netflix. It's called fair Play, and I was
laughing because it's like the woman and the man work
in the same industry and she got a raise and
the man had like a meltdown, like he could not
take that his wife was getting this raise.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
And I talked to Mad about it. I was like,
the movie was so good and he was like.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Oh my god, yeah, like you keep making your money, Alex,
Like I'm not threatened at all, like if I have
to be the stay at home dad, like let me know,
like he and it's not in like a deadbeat way
where you're like Jesus Christ, get a job. It's like
he's just he was so supportive and I just love
him so much. And it's not even just about work,
like anything I do when I wake up one day
and I have an idea or if I'm struggling, like
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he's just my best friend and I'm so happy that
I found that, because I for a really long time
was like I'm gonna be fine if I'm single for
the rest of my life and I just have to
like find someone to give me sperm and like I'll
have a kid on my own. Like I literally thought
that that was gonna happen, and I was like completely,
I thought okay with it, And then I met Matt
and I was like, oh wait, never mind.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yes, so crazy when you talk because it just sound
like exactly how I feel inside.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
It's what you're saying. Oh I think it's I know.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
I love that because I think a lot of it
is like when you find your own voice as a woman,
Like we still are carving paths that weren't normal for
our parents, Like our moms weren't raised by being like
you're gonna have this career on your own and like
fight for what you want. Like I know that that's
like our generation is kind of the first generation that's
really being like rewarded, like when you are a woman
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that's going for what you want. Like there's even still
people to this day that are like, h tone it down,
but there are now people enough in a room that
are like, that's amazing, You're.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
A boss bitch, like thrive queen. But it does suck
that there are still people that are like why do
you work so much?
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Like why do you do all that? I'm like, why
does it bother you? Like I don't care what you're doing.
I think it's amazing if you don't want to do
what I do, but I'm happy. So everyone's stay in
their own lane and just like.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Why does everyone cares so true?
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Dealt with that for long?
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Yeah, I bet people are always asking you, like why
do you feel like you have to go to all
these different countries and travel and all of this, And
it's like, well, why do they care? Like as long
as you know, and maybe even in moments if you're
not happy whatever, it is like you're it's your life.
You're making decisions for yourself, and sure the people around
you can be like, hey, Paris, we want to check
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in on you if they can tell that you're not
doing well. But for the most part, I think a
lot of the noises from outside people that don't really
know you, and I.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Relate to that a lot.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
And I think throughout the past I would say, like
year and a half, I got to such a better place,
especially with like social media, where it really doesn't affect
me anymore. When I see me in comments because I
just genuinely feel so solid within myself. That doesn't mean
I don't have bad days, but I just feel so
much more secure that whenever I see comments from people
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being mean, I just actually have empathy because I can't
relate to writing a mean comment online. So my first
reaction now isn't like fuck.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
You, you're a loser.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
It's actually like, oh, I feel bad, Like I wonder
what is going on in that person's life that like
they see me and they get really triggered, Like I
hope they're okay.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yeah, someone has that much time on their hands to
like make fake accounts and just be vicious and mean, and.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
I think sometimes people give it too much power. Like
I feel like for a while there, I feel like
I saw online that so many people had. People would
comment back to things and try to like dispel narratives
or like comment back or like make an episode about things, and.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Like I did that in the past, where I would
be like I saw this, and.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
I want to address it, Like I don't think anyone
should take when you see a user and as like
the gray blob that's like not a human, Like I
don't think it's worth ever responding to people that are
just bringing negativity, but they also don't have the balls
to like not be anonymous, Like I know all those
people probably would never say that if they not only
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if they met me in the street. Like I think
a lot of these people, if they met half the
people that they're bullying online, I bet you would actually
like they would be surprised how much they actually like
people that they're bullying. Like, I think half of the
bullies online are actually like very enamored with the people
they're bullying. I think like people probably coming at you
are like so pissed that you like finally had kids
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and you're finally just like feeling really good about yourself,
and it's so obvious online what a great place you're in.
So I feel like half of those people are just
like trying to even just get attention, like I'm sure
you've had that where if you ever do respond, they're like,
wea queen, Like I'm sorry, I didn't think you'd see this,
And it's like, then why were you writing that in
the first place.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yeah, just it blows my mind how some people could
be online. But I've noticed it's gotten so much better now.
People used to be so mean. But now it's just
I don't really read the comments as much because I
don't have the time, but if I do, it's just
the sweetest.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Nicest comments.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Yeah, so I feel like people I don't know see
me as more of a human now.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
I also think that I understand we're both sitting here
with like a lot of people that follow us. I
think it's sadly really relatable for even someone listening that
has like a hundred followers of their friends, like you.
People I know people have messaged me saying like they
walked into school and they saw people laughing at the
picture they posted, and it's like it's social media just
creates like this paranoia that people are not liking it
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enough or oh my god, did I get enough comments,
I get enough likes?
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Should I delete the picture? And I think if we
can all get to.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
A better place of like, but you liked the picture,
like you posted that picture for a reason, like own
it and who cares if no one else likes it? Like,
I think we're giving people way too much power and
we just have to kind of start taking the power back.
Like if you're happy, then yeah, those comments genuinely can't
affect you. And I feel like we're kind of both
in that era of like I don't really give.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
A shit, it's true, but I can't imagine being a
teenager and having all this this is.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Like a lot.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
It just stresses me out for kids, because they shouldn't
have that much information and they shouldn't have that much
feedback about the way they look. And you shouldn't be
able to be living in one state and then be
like looking at these kids that live somewhere else that
like have a complete different lifestyle, and whether it's economic
status or just whatever, it is, like just like looks wise.
I think also women specifically, like young girls are just
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way oversaturated seeing so many.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Beautiful people where it's like is it a filter?
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Like is it a lot of me behind? Like you
don't know, So I just yeah, if young people listen
to this podcast, I just hope you know, like don't
read into it because half the time, the people that
are making those videos like they're not in a great
place either, Like we're all just searching to be accepted.
And I think when you try to compare yourself, that's
where you can just get truly so so lost and
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go down like a really bad spiral.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
I know it could be toxic, place scary.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
That's not off real, get off everyone more all the story,
delete every form of social media and go read a book.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Go read my new book Faris And then what, oh
my god, you read my book?
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Yes, yes, no, And I think I think a lot
of what, like I talked about in our episode, a
lot of what we touched on is the more that
you open up and become more human to people. I think,
like you're experiencing, people are now being so much warmer
to you because I bet for a long time people
were just trying to get at you, to be like
react bitch, like say something because they didn't know you.
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And I think now people really feel like we get her,
and you've been vulnerable, Not that you needed to in
order to gain respect, but it's interesting to see how
people have shifted with you, being like, we now love
you even more because you've shown us another side of yourself.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
She thinks great, thinks me happy, I.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Love you, I love you.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
So your mom as a psychologist, so must have impacted
your childood a lot.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
How was that?
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (27:33):
But that, honestly, it was it almost like went in waves,
like when I was really little, I felt so fortunate
to have such an insightful mother that was so just
like aware of mental health. And I even look back
at like my childhood of like and I'm sure you
feel the same way, Like no one talked about mental health,
Like it wasn't really a conversation until the last couple
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of years it started to really become more normalized.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
But my mom.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
Always was so incredible in our household, just like making
sure we all felt seen, and would come into our
bedrooms at night and just check in on us and
like force us to have a conversation with her and
just to like dig deep. And she could always tell
when something was wrong with us. Like she was just
like a very in tune mother. When I got to
high school, different story, I was livid. I'm like, mom,
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why can't you just be like the other moms? Like
my mom would always know when I was lying. I
could never pull anything over on her. She just like
all of my friends. We would tell our parents, like
we're going to the movies tonight, and all the parents
would be like, have the best time, and my mom
would be like always, so, when are you going to
tell me that you're not going to the movies because
I know you're not going to the movies and I'm.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Like, mom, like leave me alone.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
So she was always so aware, and I know it
was coming from such a loving place of just not
wanting me to get hurt or put myself in a
bad situation, because aside from just not wanting me to
like be in a position or I could be involved
in something that was bad, like I also was just
like very competitively playing soccer at that point, and I
(29:09):
was hoping to get a scholarship to go to college.
And so I remember like so many people around me
like getting underages at in like parties, and cops would come.
And I couldn't have that happen to me because then
I wouldn't get a scholarship, and my parents weren't in
a position that they could afford for me to just
go to college and then pay for it, so I
would have so many loans. And I just tried to
(29:31):
really focus on, like if I can utilize what I
am really good at, which is sports, like try to
stay on this like straight and narrow path. But I
definitely think sometimes the amount of her trying to keep
me on that path sometimes I really rebelled which I
relate to you in some ways. In that way, like
(29:53):
I was the youngest. I am the youngest of three,
so being the youngest I was, I was my parents'
biggest hit. Like I was a nightmare in high school,
and like I remember my parents not letting me date
this guy that I was so in love with, and
like he was just not a good guy, like the
bad boy at the public school when I was at
(30:14):
this private school, and like the only reason again I
could afford to be there is because I got a
scholarship for high school to play soccer, and like my
parents were doing everything to not let me see this boy.
And I remember going on like eBay and like buying
this little like retractable ladder, like oh, and then I
bought it, and I remember it got delivered and my
dad was like what is this And I posed it
(30:37):
as like, oh, it's one.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Of those like soccer ladders that I have to do drills. Yes,
but really it was so that I could.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
Put it down my window and like holster it up
and try to sneak out, and I fully got caught
and it was a disaster. But like I was always
trying to find ways to sneak out, like I would
leave my phone in the mailbox because my mom had
a tracker on me, and she would be like, oh,
she's safe and sound, but like, no, my phone was
just like whether I would keep it in the mailbox
(31:05):
of my friend's houses and be like, I stayed at
Anna's house. Mom, we had the cutest girls sleepover. We
made cookies. Meanwhile, I'm like at some party drinking and
just like getting into dumb shit. But I look back
and I really appreciate how much she tried to be
so loving back then, because I it definitely kept me
from doing some really dumb shit that I could have
(31:26):
gone down the wrong path. I think playing such competitive
sports was like you're just constantly being told where to be,
what to do, and I just had a lot of
rebellious energy within me that I was like, I don't
want to do this, Like I'll do it on the
soccer field, and I love soccer, but the minute I'm done, like,
let's go drink, let's go party, let's go find boys.
(31:48):
And so I was definitely boy crazy in high school
and my mother was like, please please don't get pregnant,
like and I get it. It's different for with like
my I have an older brother and like it wasn't
like that for him, because I can imagine one day
if I am lucky enough to become a mother, like
it is hard with girls, like my mom being a
(32:09):
psychologist was such a positive. But yeah, when I was
in my rebellious face, I was like, can you like
be a little less aware, like can you not.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Read the room all the time?
Speaker 4 (32:18):
And no. But she's the best and she's my best friend.
And we've had so many ups and downs in our
relationships because we're so similar. And I think that's when
you can butt heads the most with someone. Is like
I love her so much, and I also in moments
and like stop. But it's also like, because I'm staring directly,
I feel like sometimes at myself and I'm like, this
(32:38):
is so scary.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Does she ever get mad at you?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Just like at any of the podcasts in the past
when you talked about anything crazy.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Like your dad and your mom, Like.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
I was so fortunate because my parents from the beginning
days of call her Daddy, I remember not having a
fear in the world, Like I did not have one
bone in my body that was nervous about what my
parents were gonna think. My parents are so supportive of me.
And when I was younger, I was always making really
(33:13):
embarrassing like music videos and skits and movies at my house,
and my house was always the place that my friends
would come and I would force them to be like
characters in my skits that I wrote, and I'm like, Okay,
you're gonna be this character, like sit there, and I
would direct all my friends and I was kind of
bossy and I'm like, listen to me, like this has
to be incredible, and like, Alex, where is this going?
Like this is not a feature film. I like one
(33:34):
day it will be, so please just listen and read
your lines. And my parents always were so proud that
I had that passion. So when I started to call
her daddy, I feel like they really weren't surprised, Like
I think they were very aware that it was a character.
It was not lost on them. But I think it
was difficult for my parents. A lot of extended family
(33:57):
members were really nasty, and I remember my mom just
sharing with me not at the time, which I'm thankful for,
because she was like, I don't want to share this
with Alex because it will affect her, but now she
shares with me, like conversations that she had with some
people that like are in my extended family that were
like she is looks like a whore, and she's speaking
(34:20):
and she seems just like she's lost her mind. And
my parents were so protective of me and they never
doubted me. And I'm so aware that, like I'm so
privileged to even be able to say that, because I
know sometimes it's so hard when like your parents are
the only people you want to believe in you, and
when they're the people that don't stand by you and
(34:41):
don't advocate for you, it's really hard to do it
for yourself. And so I feel like that's the one thing.
I mean, there's a lot of things, but the one
thing I really always think my parents for is like
how supportive they were, because I don't know, I definitely
would have been doing what I'm doing today, but it
wouldn't have been as easy, Like I didn't have to
blink an eye when I was upl those episodes and
some of them being so salacious and talking about sex
(35:04):
so openly, like as a woman in.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Media, it was of course I got backlash.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
But to know at home my parents were like giving
me a hug whenever I went home from New York
to see them, and they were like, we're so proud
of you. It's not to say that my dad and
my brother were like we're not gonna listen to some
of the episodes or like we're gonna just listen to
the beginning when you tell funny stories, and then when
you get into the sex stuff, we turn it off.
I totally get that, Like I completely understand for some
(35:30):
people it was a lot, but my parents were just yeah,
they were.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Like ride or die for it.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
And I will always thank them for that because, like
I remember, my mom was like I went to the
grocery store one week and I ran into this woman
who was a mom of like a girl that I
went to middle school with, and she was like, I'm
in the egg department, like I'm by the freezers and
like the refrigerators, and this woman just like stops holding
this like big jar of sour cream as I'm like
(35:56):
picking up my eggs, and she's like, God, like your
daughter is a disgrace to this town. And she just
like walked away, and my mom was like, oh, I
had so many fucking nasty things I could have said
to that bitch, and like, my mom like has a
mouth on her and like she's but she never uses it.
I'm like, Mom, you should have roasted her, but she's like,
I don't need to. That's the funny thing, is like,
(36:18):
and she's probably where I learned, like you don't always
have to respond to people. My mom's like why even
give them the energy, like like what buy your sour cream?
Speaker 3 (36:26):
And leave?
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Like why are you talking? I don't even know who
you are. So I was like, Okay, you're right, mom,
but they're the best. I'm really really fortunate and yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Very lucky. Think you know a lot of parents let's
be terrified.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Yeah. Literally, So how did call her daddy come about?
How did she think of, oh my god, everything?
Speaker 4 (36:50):
Well, I think kind of like I said, like, I
always knew I wanted to do something in media, and
it was really stressful at the time because I had
gotten this job that was truly I was so miserable Paris,
Like I was working at this ad sales job for
a magazine, and I feel like working for a magazine
(37:10):
sounds glamorous, but like this specific position, I was just
miserable and I was I just knew I wanted to
do something creatively, and I was like prince dying, like
let me out of here, like it's not but at
the time, I was like I want something in the
digital world, and I was just so bored. And then
I remember I all of the women got like pulled
into the room one day and our boss was like,
(37:33):
I'm so sorry, but like we have to let all
of you go, like the company's not doing well, like
we had to lay you all off, and like everyone
starts sobbing in the room and I'm like fuck, yes,
like yes, Like I remember leaving that day. I left
the office. I packed my shit up so fast, and
I like went out into the streets of New York
and I was like smiling ear to ear and like
all the women behind me were like literally sobbing, puffy,
(37:53):
and like I had no money. I had no job.
Now I was on unemployment checks. But I was like
kind of happy that I was forced to try to
do something that I loved, and I was like, this
is this sign that it's time to try to go
for what I want to do, which I knew I
wanted to create some type of show. I didn't know
I wanted it to be a podcast. At the time
(38:14):
I really thought it was.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Gonna year was this This.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Is twenty eighteen. So I was twenty two twenty.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
Three and I had gone through a huge breakup, and
I will being on a soccer team my whole life,
Like I was always the girl like giving everyone advice,
like you want to get this guy, like give me
your phone, Like I'm gonna be the girl that's always
taking my girlfriend's phones and texting the guys for them,
Like I will literally be sexting.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
For you if you need me to do it.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
I'll take your nudes, like I am like in it
to win it for the girls. And I've just always
been like I kind of always just knew how to
talk to guys, Like when I was younger, no guy
wanted to talk to me, but like I would take
my friend's phones and I would pretend to be them.
And so I just loved giving advice and just sharing
my experience. And so when I thought about starting a show,
(39:00):
I just thought about, like I feel like there's no
women talking just so freely, about the way that I
talk with my friends and my girlfriends when we're like
in the living room having debriefs, it just felt like
there was no one filling that place in the market,
Like it was almost like it kind of reminded me
lightly of the Howard Stern version of like there was
no woman kind of doing it. And of course there
(39:22):
were iterations of it, but I felt like for my
generation that like Zillennial point, I was like, no one's
doing this. So I remember my roommate at the time.
I was like, do you want to start a podcast
with me? And she was like sure, like I have
a job, but I'll do it with you if you
want to do it. And so I remember like writing
the first outline for the first episode, and I thought
(39:42):
it was going to be a YouTube show at first,
but then just like actually the budget itself was just
too difficult to do a YouTube show. So I'm like,
maybe a podcast is easier. No one was doing podcasts
back then, but I'm like, maybe we'll make it cool,
like maybe we'll like have podcasting become cool, And it
wasn't back then. Like when I think about podcasting, I
always say, like I thought about my dad, Like my
(40:05):
dad driving to work listening to like the radio or
a podcast. So I'm like, how can we make podcasting hot?
And sexy, and we recorded the first episode, and I
remember being like in a room with all men that
were like doing the tech equipment, and all of them
were like giggling and laughing and like trying to cover
their faces. And I remember, like the first episode, literally
(40:26):
I recognize, like, holy shit, I have something here, Like
I'm watching all these men laugh at like a woman
telling a joke, Like, clearly there's something here for this brand.
And it was just kind of crazy. And how the
name came about is so funny. Like I remember trying
to come up with so many different names with my
former co host, and we were just like trying to
(40:47):
put our heads together, just like trying to figure it out.
And I remember we came home one day after sitting
for literally like seven hours in a coffee shop like
writing down the worst names ever. And we get home
and we're exhausted, and I go into my room and
I put on this hoodie and it was a hoodie
that I had bought from like online in college and
(41:08):
it just said Daddy on the chest. And I bought
this in college because I remember, like I was such
a little shit in college and I was always fucking
with the guys and like messing with their minds and
just trying to like play the game. And I remember
I bought this because I thought it would be so
funny to like where to parties, because it would be
a conversation starter, like and it was all the guys
would always be like, why do you have daddy on
(41:29):
your shirt? And I'm like, because I am, and then
they'd be like so uncomfortable. And I thought it was
so funny to make on men uncomfortable back then, and
that was the purpose of the hoodie. And so I
remember I'm standing in the kitchen and I look at
her and I'm like, what if it has to do
with like daddy, like something with daddy, and like, but
we're daddy, And so at first we came up with
(41:50):
like call us daddy, and then I was like, wait,
what about like no, like call her like more specific
for the woman, and then call her Daddy. Was just
born in like a little apartment in the side, and
it's been amazing ever.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Father Cooper was born.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
Father Cooper was born that day.
Speaker 4 (42:08):
It's so funny when I'm with my dad and I'm
walking around if I'm like in New York or something,
and people are like father or like daddy and my
Dad's like, oh, this will never get normal.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
I'm like, I love your dad.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Sorry, I'm a part of the daddy gang too.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Yes, And I was listening to you during the pandemic
and you just like made it so much more interesting.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
I love you, sweet. Oh my god, that's crazy to know.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
Just like younger me, like I just I still do
like idolizing you of just like you're just so you're
just like that type of woman that I think so
many of us look up to. And I feel like
you have such a good head on your shoulders, and
I feel like I really relate to you of the
whole character that you talk about building, not that it's
(42:55):
not like a part of you is that character, but
there's certain things with business that like you lay up
certain parts of yourself, like like I always say I
don't naturally talk for an hour and just like never
shut up, but like I.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
Need to entertain people, so I'm gonna keep talking.
Speaker 4 (43:08):
And I've always just admired you so much of the
way that you're able to be so authentically yourself but
also like lean in when you know like it works
for your brand and like sell yourself and like have
no fear that, Like I don't care if people don't
like me, Like this is my brand, this is who
I am, and like take it or leave it, Like
I definitely, I definitely took a part of that and
(43:31):
like added that to my repertoire from you, like looking
up to you and just watching you and idolizing you.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
So thank you for being you. You're amazing.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
I love you, love you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
Yes, yes, well that was so much fun talking about
the past with you, and I can't wait for the
next episode where we're talking about the present.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
I can't wait. Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
Yes, thank you, Bye guys, Seson, thanks for listening to
I in Paris.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Don't forget to follow us on Instagram, I Am Paris Podcast,
Email us at Paris.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
At iHeartRadio dot com. Be hot and subscribe now. Love
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