March 8, 2021 • 53 mins
Comedian and Actress Amy Schumer joins Paris for some hilarious laughs and real moments together. The pair leave nothing unsaid, including how to navigate relationships during a pandemic, IVF treatments, having kids vomiting on you, “penis carrots,” and so much more. In a fun light-hearted moment, Amy teaches Paris a way to cope with stress and life that gets Paris dancing on her feet.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is Paris. Ye are you not freezing? By the way,
Paris freezing? It's cold as balls in here. It's also
International Women's Day, Paris, it is What does that mean
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to you? It's a day to celebrate women because women
rule the world who are amazing And I am just
like so into girl power and women empowerment and really
celebrating just I feel like it's just such an amazing
time around, especially for women, where everyone's just like getting
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the respect that we all deserve. And just I see
so many women in the industry and female entrepreneurs and
just I don't know, I think it's just an amazing
time to be a girl. Who are your favorite women
in your life? Uh? My mom and my sister, I
am so close with them. And then today's guest is
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someone who I really just look up to and admire.
I think she is not only one of the most
hilarious women, but she uses her voice and advocates for everyone,
and just I really just admire that someone who sticks
up for other people and is using her platform in
such a positive way. And I'm excited just to talk
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with her. I think she's it's going to be a
very fun and interesting conversation. She's an advocate, she's a
television star and world class stand up comedian. Let's welcome
Amy Schumer. That's hot. Yes, thank you so much for
doing this. By the way, thanks for thinking of me.
I'm excited. Have you guys worked together before? No, who's communicated,
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just loved, just sent love to each other. You guys
are both very lovely people, so that would make perfect sense. Definitely.
So I've been watching expecting Amy, and I have fallen
even more in love with you. Oh my god, I
hope you aren't like puking watching it. No. I love
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just how just funny you are, how brave you are,
just everything that's just that's a really amazing that you
let people in like that. Thank you. Was it hard
for you since you're probably used to like being an
actress and a comedian and being on stage, but mostly yeah,
it was. I think I was. I think it was
a defense mechanism, like I think I felt. So. I
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think a lot of reason that a lot of people
get into stand up is because of some trauma when
they're younger, and so it's like a way to feel control,
you know. So I feel like I think that I was,
like let's film this and film on our cell phones,
because to me, it felt like I could control it
in that way or something, you know, because I felt
so vulnerable. And then and the whole time we were shooting,
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it was like, we might not use any of this.
We're not gonna put any pressure on ourselves to turn
this into anything. So that kind of took the heaviness
off of it um and it made it funny because
like so much, I was vomiting so much that it
was just funny, Like it was just like I I was,
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except for the times where I had to go to
the hospital. I was like and even then I was
still joking. But it's just you have to laugh because
it's so awful. It's such a living nightmare. I did
make the mistake of trying to watch it while eating breakfast,
and it was rough. There should be a warning, there
should be a real warning. Oh my god, and my
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son pigged on me last night. Like it was just
one of those like you know, like if you've ever
had a baby, at the pleasure of having a baby
throw but it's like so much, like you can't believe
it's coming out of them. And it was like I
was just slimed, like I had to change my underwear
was soaking wet like everything, and it was like, you know,
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and I almost threw up that I was It's just
vomiting is funny. You know that's hot. That's hot. How
old is your son? I want to say, And I'm
just kidding. He's just he's gonna turn too in May.
So it's all worth it, all the vomiting. Yes, the
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hype is real. He lives up to the hype. Everybody
said it'll be worth it, and that's one of the
things you just want to punch people in the face.
But did see I'm having a really good experience with
the you know, having a kid post post pregnancy. Did
seeing expecting Amy for you Paris make you nervous at
all about anything? Like? Um, Yeah, it made me nervous
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because I feel like that's the scariest part is being
pregnant and then actually having the baby. Like I've been
going through IVF like all during quarantine, which I thought
was like the perfect time to do it. Pince, the
world is like shut down. How is your experience with
IVF um, Well, first of all, I'm glad to hear
you say that it's not that it didn't put you
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off of having kids, because that was my fear that
people would see it and be like, this could happen
to me. I'm not doing this. Um IVF for me
was really really brutal. I had a very hard time.
Um yeah, I think I also like found out this
year that I've lime and I have endometrios, so so
my body just kind of whatever autoimmune stuff I have,
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Like I felt real sick and I bruised and and
then you know, the outcome was was you know some
people have I had like this crazy like I had
like They're like, we have thirty one eggs, and I
was like, oh my god, I'm a goddess. And then
it was like, okay, eleven of them fertilized, and then okay,
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one is normal. You know, I got like one normal
embryo out of it. So it was like, so I
was like, and you know a lot of people do
it many times, so it was a real roller coaster
and I don't think that I could do it again.
How was it for you? Just like you said, it's
so emotional, it's really hard. Like my heart goes out
to people who have to go through all of that,
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because it really is a lot just physically too. You know,
the shots are like I hate needles and like you know,
and hard to my hands. Like really like keep myself
being nice to Chris because I mean, truly, we're getting
needled all this stuff and they have to jerk off
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into a cup and they're done. Yeah, the guy is
gonna easy. I know, I'm like, this is so unfair. Um.
But speaking of of Chris, he's the nicest. He's so
great in your cooking show. He's really sweet and expecting Amy,
he was just so sweet. I gotta imagine having that
support made it all just that much easier. He he's
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a really deeply kind person and very supportive and did
his absolute best. But he also he's on the spectrum
and so you know those times where you're like looking
for some empathy, like to communicate with it. You know,
we have we we go to therapy like we have
well we don't go we's we talked to our therapists
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when we need to. Um. Sometimes that communication is is
hard and it's like, you know, really what I needed
during my pregnancy was truly a home attendant like I
And that's why a lot of women who get hyperamesis.
I think fifty of the marriages fail because of how
sick you are, how neaty you are, and you just
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aren't available, you know to um. And because of my privilege,
I could, you know, I'm assistant. I had people helping,
but but really it was just me and him and
and it I mean, it's not it's nine months. That
is not a joke. That's a long time, you know
to be like just waiting on somebody basically. Um, but
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he's such a great partner and such a great dad.
It's it's crazy. But you know we run into trouble communicating,
like I think every other couple. Um. Yeah, and he's
also but you know, like like I was laughing because
I'll say something like that I feel is really meaningful
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to him. Like I said to him, I go, even
though you know, COVID has been awful, and like, in
some ways, it's been the best time of my life
with you. And he looked at me and he went,
I'm gonna go put the windows up in the car.
And I'm just like okay, Like he's you know, he's
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very very funny. Um. Sometimes you will say the dead
wrong thing. Yeah, you and parents have kind of similar
relationship arcs with the whole COVID thing at It's like,
you know, it was a fairly quick relationship right for
both people before the engagement and everything. Do you think
that helps? I think in your guys this case, maybe
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it helps because you know everything was still so honeymoony. Well,
I think when you're I mean, that's the thing though,
like you know when I'm when we met, I think
I was either thirty seven or thirty eight. Um, you know,
we've I'll speak at both pars and myself. We've dated
and we've dated, we've we've been in long relationships, and
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I think part of that makes you, like when you
do find the person that you want to like partner
up with for life. I feel like, you know, I
felt like old enough to make that decision. Like we
both knew. We were like, let's go. This is this
is good, this isn't. I don't know what I saw
some but they were like, it's not enough to just
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fall in love, because like, fall in love is amazing,
and I've done it, and and Chris and I fell
in love. But it was like, you know, my dad
as a MSC's in a wheelchair, You're like, who's gonna
push my wheelchair? Like who? And then and the pandemic exactly,
You're like, how did we do during a global pandemic?
Like you find out a lot about somebody in that time,
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and congratulations on your engagement. That's so exciting. I'm so happy.
That's like you said, when you find the one you
just know and it's like your person and after going
through other dating, like you just you don't want to
waste time like once you like, I don't know. I
was just like I would have rather been single forever
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if I hadn't met him. I feel like I feel
like he was made for me exactly. Yeah, I was
like kind of I had almost like accepted that, like, Okay,
I'm gonna, you know, just be close with my family
and friends and maybe I'll fall in love a couple
more times. It probably won't get married. And then this
person shows up and you're like, nope, I want to
partner up with you, and let's start now. We want
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to start our lives now. It's not about the wedding.
Even though we did have a blast our wedding and
we went all out, um, we just were like, let's
get started on our on our life together, and yeah,
and we really like being married. I'm excited for that. Yeah,
how do you think Carter is gonna handle the IVF stuff?
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He seems like he's so ready and he's been amazing
because we've been doing it the whole quarantine, so he's
just been so supportive. And I can't imagine doing it
with anyone else. I would never I don't know, I
never even thought about doing it. I didn't even know
what it was until like like a year ago. Right,
your body tells you like when you meet that person,
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you can't it's not about anything that you're just like,
I want to make babies with you. What we said that,
you know, Yeah, I love it. Yeah, you guys are
so key together. I love it. Oh, thank you. I mean,
things are still hard, so it's not like, you know,
it's not just like I found my person and every
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day is you know, we especially during the pandemic, it
was also like we would really you know, we would
get into it um, but also just like whatever, just
move on, you know, like because you're fighting with someone,
but then you also want to watch the Bachelor with them,
so you're like, okay, can we just skip to the
end and watch our our reality show that we're going
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to watch. Yes. The other day we were talking about
kind of everything with especially with Letterman and some of
these comedians, and you being a comedian. Uh, you've been
pretty good at avoiding crossing the line. And we've talked
about how Paris was kind of the line for a while. Paris,
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Brittany like, was kind of like the center of a
lot of jokes, well what's your thought on comedy right now?
And and this kind of PC culture. But it's also
you know, now I get to see it from the
other side, being close with Paris, where you get to say, oh,
this is a person who dealt with a lot of
people saying these things. Yeah, I think, um, I think,
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I think it's really important that and and kind of
amazing to be hearing to be you know, to be
hearing this story from um from the person's perspective, you know,
from Britney's perspective, from Paris' perspective, because you're like, there's
one way you can think of someone and Okay, you
can make them a fast punch line, but then to
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be like, hey, if you're interested in take the time.
You can see how hard these women work and that
they they're not there by accident, like they have created
their own um, you know, potentially they've created their own careers.
And I mean changed the world, I mean really changed
the world. And so um, you know people who are
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kind of getting in trouble now for something that they
said years ago. I think that's okay. And like, I
made jokes that I'm not proud of now. I was
trying to think. I was like, did I ever write
a joke about Paris? I know I had one joke
and it wasn't about Paris, but I think it was.
It was something like, well, first of all, I loved
a Simple Life. I don't know if I ever told
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you about, but I just thought it was I just
thought you guys were so funny and I just loved
I felt like it was such a feminist, funny show.
And then so I had this dog. I'm like, I
said something it was like something with Paris Hilton. Then
her dog, the chihuahua, what's its name? Oh yeah, no,
but that was we joke, Like, you know, that was
a joke. Um, But you know what, I've joked about
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Kim over the years, and I'm friends with Kim and uh,
but I think, yeah, like you get older, like as
a comedian who did roasts, like I started out doing
a roast on Comedy Central, and and then as I've
gotten older, like these these have consequences, and these will
hurt people's feelings, And so I don't want to say
a joke that's going to hurt someone's feelings anymore. And
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and in terms of you know, making people, anybody who's
upset about cancel culture, I think is probably has problematic behavior. Um.
I think the way that people are being um asked
to answer for themselves. If you aren't, I don't. If
you're evolving and you're educating yourself, then then I think
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it's okay and and hopefully you won't be canceled or
whatever if you are actually putting in genuine, authentic efforts
to to educate yourself and and and move with the
culture in the way that thank god it's going. Um
and with celebrity, it just reached mean Paris and Brittany
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like were the like nothing. It's crazy to have lived
during that, to like have witnessed that and just that
whole era and and the fact like coming out of
it and having a career and a family and relationships
like that is not easy and a lot of I
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would say people can't handle it, couldn't handle it. And
so I think there's really something to be said for
having this long career because it's not about it's like, Okay,
so I'm this quick joke to you right now, whatever
I mean to you. Um, but you know, time time,
time tells it's like, no, I'm like working and I
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have a whole infrastructure and um. But you know, it's
like what people think of you is none of your business.
I really think it's it's you knowing who you are
and the people close to you and what you're doing.
You know. So like I think, yeah, like let people talk,
let people have an idea of who you are, because
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the truth I think does come out. You said that
her on Simple Life was like, you know, empowering from
a feminist perspective, but you said it was it was
feminist feministic. Um, I agree. Now, knowing that Paris was
doing a basically a performance the entire time with Nicole
and captivating the entire world, did you know that at
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the time or were you, like the public just being
like I can't tell no, I I felt like I
could tell. I remember thinking, these girls are so funny
and I would love to hang out with them. You know,
I knew like it was playing things up. It wasn't
like the count, it wasn't like hidden camera show on
them like it was like they know. I knew it
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was working and why it was funny and no, I
loved it and I loved that, and I still love that,
like unapologetic, um, you know, just self actualized like people.
You know, there's this podcast that I love called Poog.
It's a goop backwards with Jacquelnovac and caper Land, and
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it really is just like people not apologizing for who
they are and just sharing their genuine thoughts and feelings.
And there's just something so refreshing about that because, um,
especially right now where people are really checking themselves and
as we should be, you know, UM, it's just fun
to see people like, you know, fully living in their
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own skin and being like, this is me and this
is who I am and where I come from, and
I'm going to share this like you know, insight into
my life, but I'm not going to apologize for it
is just so appealing to me. I want to listen
to that Oh yeah, it's so funny, poog. All the
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reasonchs we have to do for the show is like
listen to these twelve podcasts, and so my list has
gone exponentially bigger. Now. So you guys watching any TV shows? Um,
ship's creek as I really love? Yeah, I watched just Reality.
I just watched like Love After lock Up and Nanky
Dave Fiance. Oh I watched that. That was hilarious. Love
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After lock Up so good. I watch it live on Fridays. Yeah,
I watched it live in my house. When I was
like twenty three years old. My step brother got a
prison and basically got engaged or they were like dating. Seriously,
I don't know if they ever got engaged to a
woman that he had never met. And then they got
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out of prison and came over the day that he
got out, and I was like, I thought to myself,
this should be a show. And then years later it
was a real show. Oh my god, you lived Love
after lock Up and it is should go. How did
it go? Um? Not good? If you're the type of
proson spoiler alert, it never if you ever go to
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your therapist and go, So I'm seeing this guy, he's
getting out in a few months. It's just it couldn't
be a bigger red flag for both people. There's no good.
If you're saying somebody's getting out of anything, probably not good. Yeah. Absolutely.
What can you remember, like when you were younger, what
were you what were your toxic relationships? Like, what were
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the traits that like you would find yourself being attracted
to or situations where like why do I keep ending
up in this situation? Oh? God? Well, first of all,
I was probably toxic. Um. But yeah, I mean I
liked I got in a pattern of dating guys that
were like I just thought were so funny and brilliant
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and that I didn't deserve to be with them, who
weren't that nice to me? Um? And then at the
you know, towards the end of the relationship, I would
realize like, wait, I'm like I'm actually better than them. Um,
And they have been, you know, and they've been manipulating
me to feel bad about myself so that I would stay.
I feel like I needed to stay. And that's a
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pattern that it took me a while to break. Um. Yeah,
but you know that those patterns can be broken, which
is really cool, Like anybody can wind up in the
in an abusive relationship. UM, that's the thing. And also
just to bring up the work that you've been doing
Paris with UM the school you went to. Uh. You know,
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I think people get an idea in their heads of
like I had a strong person or whatever, like won't
fall prey to any sort of abuse, and it's just
not true. Like you, there's no one type of person
that that happens to. It's it can happen to absolutely anyone. UM.
And you know, the key is to I think once
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you realized it happened and you're ready to talk about it,
to speak out to prevent it from happening for other people.
Like I think about that now, like any situation, even
if I'm in like a doctor's office and he makes
me uncomfortable or something, I'll call out the behavior. Thinking
about the next woman who comes in here. I have
a responsibility to her, you know, just like you have
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felt the responsibility to you know, students who are coming after.
I appreciate that and realize, you know, telling that story
was so difficult and so hard, and I never thought
I would ever talk about it again. But I'm so
grateful that I did, because now I'm literally changing laws
and saving children, and just to feel that I kind
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of made me think that maybe that happened for a reason.
Maybe I had to go through that because I could
one day use my voice to help the others. And
I just know the little girl in me would be
so proud of the woman that I am today. Can
I say this that's hot? Yeah? This is Paris, This
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is Paris. I do want to ask you, Paris, the
same question about the relationships though, because I feel like
you had some public relationships, I'm sure you also had
many that people don't know about. Or was that not
the case that everybody find out everything? They were mostly public,
there was some private, but the media always I dated
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Prince william Id. What were the toxic like traits, personalities
you were attracted to? What were the situations? Um just
I was relating to so much what Amy was just saying,
how they would try to make me feel feel bad
about myself, where I would feel like I needed them
and I don't know, just trying to make me feel
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insecure and then just worse things obviously as well, like
being verbally abusive, physically abusive, emotionally just cheating, just trying
just to do mean things all the time, um, with
a lot of people. So I've been through it. I
feel like a lot of I mean, I think it goes.
Men can also be in this situation, but primarily men
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are the ones with the egos in the relationship who
need for some reason to make the other people feel bad.
And I don't think it is funny. You don't realize
that until you're older, that that is something you went
through time and time again. What are some of the
like things if you don't mind, if it's not too
uncomfortable to like, what would someone say to you? What
would guy say? Because I think there's a lot of
young women listening to this right now who probably don't
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know that that's happening to them, and they just think
to themselves, why do I feel kind of bad all
the time? Right? Right? Well, you know my abuse went
like pretty far, um, but you know it was subtle
things just like like I remember one time we were
like at a gas station meeting this guy and I
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picked I got out of the car and I like
kind of picked my wedgie and he was like, that's
so gross when you do that, Like that makes me sick. Um,
And you know, now i'd be like, are you kidding me?
You know, but at the time I was just like, oh,
that's unappealing, and he would um, and he was a
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photographer at the time, and he'd be like my ex
girlfriend like would have done this so well, and you know,
all of that up to the point of really wanting
to hurt me and chasing me with a knife or um.
One time I was in the shower and he just
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opened the shower curtain and he just laughed at me,
just like started laughing at me. Um and uh, and
he I think he peeed on me. He peeed on
me in the shower while he was laughing at me.
So and this was when I was like early twenties,
you know. Um, but I this is after years of
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kind of grooming and brainwashing. Um. And then but once
I saw that it was so you know, went from
real subtle things to um, you know, locking me in
a room and all that. But but once I realized,
I don't know what it was. It was just one
day I was out of nowhere. He said something and
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I just realized, like, oh, he's just really afraid of
losing me. None of this has been true and it's
all about that, and I couldn't unsee it. And so
when he would say something me and I was almost
laughing at him, and then I was just really angry.
Um yeah, and uh and and you know, and and
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still I stayed for I don't know, a month or
something and then um yeah. And then there was a
night where he, uh, we have this insane night. I
wrote about it in my book, but it was just
crazy and he did wind up chasing me with a knife. Um. Yeah.
But it's just it's not you know, when people say
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I read some interview with um, is it f k
A Twigs? Okay, am I the oldest person in the world,
I'm like, f cut Twig. That's where she's like, people
need to stop asking the why didn't you leave? It's like, um,
because with abuse, it's not it's not cut and dry
like that. You know, it's not. It's not easy. And um.
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So I'm just I'm so like sensitive to those patterns
now and it's of me a long time to be
able to trust a guy. H And I still struggle
with that a little bit, you know, sometimes like a
guy who would truly try and like sabotage you, and
you know, yeah, I'm gonna cry. I want to knock
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that guy out, like the biggest bummer. Yeah, it's about
did you have like just so much like just very
scary experiences where I look back now and I'm like,
I cannot believe that I like stood for that or
thought that was okay, or stayed with someone continuously when
they would do things like that. Um so your family too,
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you know, it's like your family and your friends are
watching this, Like, but there's a lot of shame. Do
you feel ashamed? Almost so I would like stick up
for them and lie and be like, no, that's not true,
it's not happening because I was embarrassed for myself or
I don't know, there's like the shame that comes with it.
And I think for a girl's listening, do not be
ashamed and be honest and talk to someone who will
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talk sense and do you and let you know, like
you need to get away from this person. They are
abusing you, whether it's verbally, emotionally, physically, anything that's not right,
and the person does not love you, they they shouldn't
be in your life. So I don't know the thing
the hell of the hell of being in love with
someone who hurts you is really really painful. Rain are
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ai n N is a great resource, um, you know
for somebody reaching out looking to take maybe for steps
or just talk to somebody trying to get out of
an abusive relationship. You mentioned, Yeah, it's not this like,
it's not like you know, really, I had this stereotype
in my head of what I thought somebody who was
abused would look like, and it wasn't me. Um. But
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especially during the pandemic, it's been really hard. Women are
trapped with their abusers. Have international Women's Yes, Well, I
think this is so important for a lot of women
to hear. I think one there is obviously Paris has
this kind of aura of like Paris Hilton. I think
we all growing up with it. I never would have
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associated that, especially as a young man. I would have
never associated that with like any sort of any sort
of vulnerability. And I think Amy is a stand up
comedian and a very successful one. I think the same thing,
Like I, you're so self deprecating in your humor, which
I love. It's definitely my family's brand of humor as well.
But is that did that become a coping mechanism? Was
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that always the case, did you transition into kind of
making fun of yourself first? Yeah, I was totally born
out of a defense mechanism um and still is and
and and not just a defense mechanism like sort of
about my self esteem, but also like with what made
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me so sexual and talk about such sexual stuff when
I was starting out and stand up um because now
like I have the lowest tea in the world. Um.
But you know, when I was starting, it would be
like I would think if a guy, you know, if
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if it was about control. Again, So, if I felt
like a man was going to make some sort of
a sexual comment about me, like I would want to
make it first, you know. Um, not just not even
just to be made fun of, but just to be
like sexualized. I wanted to be in control of that.
So um yeah. Like so any jokes, like especially self
(30:45):
deprecating jokes, which I still enjoy making, but even those
I started to find were harmful to could be harmful
to people because they're like, if she's making jokes that
she's fat, then what am I? You know, like so
and I just yeah, so I try not to do
that anymore. Um, with that thought in mind. Uh, but
(31:09):
sometimes it's it's just too fun. Um. You know. It's
like I'm about to start shooting a TV show and
I'm turning forty this year, you know, and like so
from you know, so I like basically a Mitch McConnell
like double chin, Like if I so on camera, you know,
like so on set, I will. I'll make jokes about it,
(31:31):
you know, but just because it makes me, I don't know,
it makes me feel better to be like okay, and
can somebody come light my other chin? Uh? Yeah, some
of those I'll just I'll have to keep those with me.
Are you self deprecating Paris? I think I am? I
think yeah. It's like on The Simple Life, I was
always kind of you know, laughing at myself almost where
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I think people didn't understand that, but I always knew
exactly what I was doing and saying it was all
just like an act. And maybe some of that also
does stem back from that, which you know, I'm realizing
so much in this past year. Like I didn't even
know who I was like a year ago. So I
really have learned so much and why I am the
way because of things that have happened in my past.
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That's interesting. People like yes, you know if if people
are like you're a paranoid, it's like, because I've been
truly betrayed several times, and the people who are supposed
to trust the most, you know, it's like those parts
of I would say us are earned. Yeah, I know
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you've dealt with a lot of you know, people portraying
your trust. Obviously. People want to be in the circle,
and then they want to take advantage of the circle.
What's that like, you know, like not being not being
sure of anybody coming into your life. I think in
l A it's something you get used to. I've been
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used so many people and it's hard to really let
people in. Um. That's why I like a very small
group of friends that I trust. What about you, Amy, Um,
I want to be in the circle. UM, and I
just need to be up front about that. UM. I
am the same I. You know, I was like made
train Wreck and my sketch show and like got pretty
(33:22):
famous pretty quick. And UM, you know you get all that,
like all these things that are in front of you
and it's all nonsense, you know, And I feel like
you have come out of that and been like, Okay, no,
these are the things and these are the people that
make me happy. So I have a I have a
I would say, a pretty small group of really good friends. Um,
(33:43):
my best friends are you know, comedians to the Bridget
Ever Rachel Feinstein, and then um, and then my friends
from home. My my best friends that are you know,
nurses and teachers from like middle school, we've been friends,
you know. Then there's like another tier. But I don't like,
you know, my level of fame and whatever is very
(34:07):
different than yours. So I don't yeah as much. I
don't have to be as protective like people. If there's
something they want from me, they'll I'm really good about
boundaries too, I'll just be like no, um, but yeah,
people don't want uh, I don't think because they're not
(34:28):
trying to get into my circle. Uh, you know, they're
just like so, I have a different experience. It's it's
probably like intense. I would guess. The perks of being
a stand up comedian are very insular to the stand
up comedian for the most part. It's not like being
a Paris in the world where I feel like people
I don't know what it is like. I know, so
(34:49):
I've everyone I've talked to, you know, when I say
I'm going to do. I'm going to go interview Amy
with Paris today, and everybody says that you're the nicest
and that I've met you and that I think you're
as opposed to Amy saying it feels like you do
let people into an extent. You have a hard Do
you have a hard time saying no? I hate saying
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I'm like the least confrontational person in the world. I'm like,
I cannot say no. I'm like, I feel just shy
and weird. So you need to teach me how to
be like more asserted. No problem, I'm as glass. I
like it. Yeah, No, I mean it's well, the thing is,
it's like, you know, when people are asking you for something,
(35:32):
they're already mad at you that they need something from you,
They already resent because and they're thinking you're going to
resent that you're asking. So it's this whole cycle that
you have no control over. So I'll either say like,
of course, or I'm trying to take things off my
plate right now and no, and and know that what
the consequence is that will piss them off. And it's
(35:52):
also like people that you've done favors for for years
and the first time you say no, they're Maddie. So
it's like you have no control. So you know, just
and this is my new philosophy lately, whatever is going on.
Once I'm like stressed, I'm trying to wear and then
I just start going. I go, I think I'm doing
the best I can and I just kind of dance
like that I'm doing my best. And that's my philosophy. Okay,
(36:16):
I'm gonna try that. I'm doing my best. I'm doing
my best. Yes, that's great. Do you do you want
to be better at saying no? Like do you think
that you will? Or do you have just so many
other safeguards in place, like your circle, your sister being
the gatekeeper. Yeah, I think yeah, my sister will be
the one that will say now, or I can try.
(36:39):
Amy's a little dance smoth, just like change the subsect.
I don't know I'm doing here. Let's practice. I'll ask
you to do something. Okay, Okay, Paris, hey girl, it's
me Amy. Um. I'm doing a fundraiser for Chinchilla's um
(37:00):
and uh and I really want to know if if
can you DJ from like three am to five am
at my Chinchilla fundraiser. It's to benefit the chinchilla. I
love chinchilla. Yeah, yes, three am to five, how about
(37:22):
three am to seven. I'll do my best. I'll do
my best. Yeah. Maybe I shouldn't have come to you
with such a fly request. That was too that was
too good to say chinchilla. You're working. Amy wants you
to help with a chinchilla coat factory that she's launching,
and she would like you to. I know she would
have to my opening. I'd be like, no, that's a
(37:47):
good harsh rejection. We like that one with with this. Yeah,
I'm doing my best and doing my best. Boy, that's
great advice. I help you hard. It's hard to like
to keep you know, your life running and also not
have people be mad at you. Like it's a lot
to juggle. And then people want you to remember their
birthdays and and you're just like, I can't win. It's
(38:10):
a lot. So I have two words for you. Penis carrot,
tell us the story. Okay, this is really exciting. Actually,
I'm glad you're bringing up my penis carrot, that carrot
um which just wound up in our kitchen. And that's
(38:30):
one of the things that Chris is so funny because
if I had found this carrot, I would have been
screaming and running around showing everyone. And I just I
touched jeen in and then I came out and he
was just kind of cooking dinner and he's just like,
you check out that carrot over there, like so dead pan,
like nothing, you know, And I picked it up and
I'm like, are you serious right now with this carrot?
(38:51):
So anyway, I said it to my friend, um Tyler
and he um he like cast it and made twelve
bronze carrots and uh yeah, so we're going to auction
them off for charity in case people want them in
their in their homes. I know, I'm going to have
one at my home. They're so cheat. Yeah. Maybe it'll
(39:12):
be something for International Women's Day. Maybe that would be
a good I like it a good Charity's great? Are
they fully bronzed? Now? Are they ready? They're fully circumcised
and they're fully bronze. Yeah, they're ready. Do you have
any with you you can you send me that? He
just finished them? What, Oh you don't have it there
with you yet? No, they're at his warehouse. Um, yeah, thanks,
(39:36):
you don't believe that carrot. No, I thought you guys
like carved it or something. I was like, that could
not be real. No, Michelangelo couldn't have carved such a
perfect alice. This is Paris, this is seven next living questions,
(40:00):
Are you ready? I am? What is your spirit animal?
A penguin? Why? Okay? I thought it was past answers?
Um body type? Body type? No? I um uh, I
don't know. I kind of like how they do their
own thing, and they're they're communal and social. But then
(40:20):
once in a while you'll just see a penguin like
kind of just facing its own way off to the side,
like taking a minute. And you know, as an introvert,
I kind of like relate to that. Um, that penguin
kind of standing off to the side, just like doing
their own I just always love them. You're an introvert, Yeah,
I am? Are you? I'm a secret introvert. I pretend
(40:42):
to be an extrovert, but secretly that's what I am. Well,
that's the thing is stand up and also deejaang whatever.
It's like you're around people, but again you're you're controlling.
You want to everyone up a great time, but it's
and then I know, I want to go right back
to my I wish I could be being from the stage,
my bed, my hotel room. Like you know, I can
(41:03):
go out like once a month, go out and have fun,
and then like I need a month to be quiet
and to recharge. But do you think that if you
didn't have the jobs that you did, both being very
obviously public facing, that you would be like that person
in the accounting office who's like, guys, I've got a routine,
who wants to go to the bar afterwards and do this?
(41:25):
Like you don't think it's you need that somewhere, No,
I know, I mean I like to be social when
I feel comfortable and safe. Um, and like I can leave.
I yeah, Like I rarely say goodbye two people. Um
I yeah, no, I um, I really like I really
(41:48):
love talking to and being around my friends. But I
and and a quick a quick interaction. But I get
really like I you know, I used to go to
like a wedding with a boyfriend or something, you know,
or two sitting around with it, I'd be like, I can't.
I just want to leave and I go like lay
in a bed and eat and watch TV. I could relate.
(42:10):
You have three wishes what are they? Oh wow, Okay,
my number one wish is um. You know, of course
my family and friends are all healthy. Everybody's great. Uh.
I want to be able to fly. I'd like to
be able to fly. UM. And I would like for
(42:36):
I would love to be able to stamp my fingers
and have everybody be educated about this country's history of
of racism and the destruction. UM. And you know, just
like like so that everybody would be treated as as
human beings and equals and we could kind of wipe
(42:57):
out the actual cast system that we live in. UM.
I'm always talking about Isabelle Wilkerson's book Cast and UM,
just it really shines the light on you know, the
history of our country and you know why there's some
such a mistreatment of of especially black people. UM. So
(43:19):
flying equality for all? And then, UM, what's the next one?
I just want? Okay, I want I want my family
to just be like happy and together. Like I just
want Jean to grow up so happy and healthy. He's
like the most joyful child and I just want him
(43:39):
to keep that joy. What what is his new middle name?
Because I heard you had another. His new middle name
is David. So he was neighbor David Tell, which was
a mistake. Um, so he took his first name, which
is also the dad's middle name. So yeah, I want
to give him a fun Jewish sounding gene, David Fisher.
(44:05):
And what what is something that your kid has taught you?
Mm hmm um, Like how to like like calmly get
up when you're doused with endless vomit. Um, my kid
has teld me that I'm capable of so much more
(44:25):
than I than I understood. You just rise to the
occasion when it's your baby, and like you had all
you have all these instincts in you you didn't know
you had. I made a joke because Natalie Foreman told
me that she's like, you'll you know, you'll have more
instincts anything. And a lot of my instincts have been wrong. Um,
Like I just when I was leaving, when I was
(44:46):
coming over, um to record this with you. I so
I goodbye to him, you know, because we used to
just sneak out like like if I had to leave,
I would just be like, but now you know it's
better for tality. You know you're like, mom, he's leaving
and I'll see you very soon. Okay, but you know
when you let him like have a little meltdown and
(45:07):
then whatever. Um so my instincts are not always great,
but uh yeah, I mean everything. It's surprised me about
everything just yeah, like getting to know myself as a
as a mom. Um yeah, and just how much you're like, yeah,
just that love like you just it's not about you,
(45:27):
you know, it's like you really just want to get
out of the way. But everybody says that we'll mess
them up anyway. So sweep win did non answer? I
like it. Your top three bucket list items okay, um okay.
Number one on the bucket list is I really do
(45:49):
want to do everything I can to move the culture
forward for women and also educating myself and helping educate
other people about the struggle of um her, black and
marginalized people. Uh so that's big on my bucket list.
I would like to go to Africa. Sorry too, I
(46:13):
guess are kind of related, but yes, have you been
to Africa? Love it? Yes, it's incredible, that's amazing. All right,
I have to get Safaris are so cool. It's just
like beautiful. I need to, um try to have another baby.
Uh and bucket list, um yeah, I know, I fly,
(46:40):
I sky don't once it was not cool. Uh. And
I've never been to Asia, and I'd love to go
to like Japan. I love Japan too, Oh my god. Okay.
And then it's what is the craziest thing that you've
done lately? Oh my god. Well, I'm in New Orleans,
so a lot u Um yeah, what's the craziest thing?
(47:05):
I mean, we were you know, we love it here. Uh.
Nola is a major like second home. I just love
it here. I've been coming since I was like sixteen,
came here when you know, we chilled out here for
a couple of months. I was pregnant. It's just the
city is the people, the food, the vibe. It's just
(47:27):
there's some quote who said this. He said they said
there's only New York, San Francisco, and New Orleans. Everywhere
else is Cleveland. I have to look up who said that. Um. Yeah,
what's the craziest thing I've done lately? Um? I I
(47:49):
swam naked and my friend's pool two nights ago, well
while they were home without their permission. So I'd like
to say Ben and Jeanette, I'm sorry they catch you none. Yeah, Okay,
And the last one is a lot of them. What's
(48:10):
the kindest thing someone has done for you in the
past month? Mm hmm um. You know I'm gonna have
to say Chelsea Handler. Actually, uh, I was having like
(48:33):
some strife with with someone in my family, and she
she reached out, you know, out of nowhere kind of
and was like, I'd love to email that person for
you and like try to you know, fix things. Um,
this person we were both friends with, and uh, and
(48:55):
I didn't want her to do that, but it really
meant a lot to me that she was thinking about
me and that she, like I wanted to go out
of her way to try to help, because I understand
those instincts, you know. Um, but usually it's like you
feel like you're thinking of how you can help other people.
So it felt really really moving to me that she
was thinking about me. Ah. Yeah, and Chris made some
(49:19):
really good mushroom soup yesterday too. Yes, that was my
seven s living questions. Okay, well those are great. He
did a great job. Thank you so much for I mean,
just a really fun talk. Yeah, this was this was
a really good time. I'm glad we got to I'm
glad we got to talk and um, I'll send you
(49:41):
your call time for the Chinchilla's Yes, we find out
it was a real thing, and that was just her
way of Yeah, it was really want you guys want
to sing me out with UM, I'm doing my best,
doing the best, do my best. Yeah, thank you so much,
(50:02):
you guys. I had a great time. Thank you so
much for the best, and can't wait to meet you
in real life. I know me too, all right bye.
Repair is kind of fun to hear. I imagine that
someone that we both admire, you admire, Amy Schumer ended
up being a huge fan of you and really admire
not only you know the simple life, but everything you're
(50:23):
doing with your advocacy. It made me so happy to
hear because I've always loved her, and just to hear
someone speak like that about me just it made me
feel just so proud and excited and just feel so
good all over. Like it's like, well, Amy Schumer loves me.
(50:44):
There's a lot of women supporting women love on the
perfect day, International Women's Day, and I think the only
thing left to do would be figure out how to
get Amy into your circle. I would love that. I
think she would be so much fun to hang out
with and she's just awesome. Like I was not expecting
that conversation. I thought I knew it was gonna be funny,
(51:06):
but we went very deep, like we were talking about
just just so many things that are really important issues.
And you know, I was surprised just to hear about
her past relationships and what she's been through. So that
was emotional to hear because I could really relate to it,
and I'm sure a lot of girls listening right now
could relate to that. And I thought that she gave
(51:28):
incredible advice regarding it. And yeah, I was just surprising
because I've always just seen her like to set this
strong woman, and I never knew that she had went
through all that. But um, as people say that, you know,
you never know what someone's been through in life, and
that's a huge example of that today. And I'm happy
(51:50):
that she is brave and tells her story and she's
right that it's so important to do that. Yeah, well,
I think she's in the circle. She'll be happy to
know when she listens to this episode that it's confirmed
and you can pick up your invite amy whatever you'd like.
Yes from Slivington Manor, and thank you guys so much
for listening to this episode. Thank you guys. I hope
(52:13):
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This is Paris. Ye are you not freezing? By the way,
Paris freezing? It's cold as balls in here. It's also
International Women's Day, Paris, it is What does that mean
(00:23):
to you? It's a day to celebrate women because women
rule the world who are amazing And I am just
like so into girl power and women empowerment and really
celebrating just I feel like it's just such an amazing
time around, especially for women, where everyone's just like getting
(00:44):
the respect that we all deserve. And just I see
so many women in the industry and female entrepreneurs and
just I don't know, I think it's just an amazing
time to be a girl. Who are your favorite women
in your life? Uh? My mom and my sister, I
am so close with them. And then today's guest is
(01:07):
someone who I really just look up to and admire.
I think she is not only one of the most
hilarious women, but she uses her voice and advocates for everyone,
and just I really just admire that someone who sticks
up for other people and is using her platform in
such a positive way. And I'm excited just to talk
(01:30):
with her. I think she's it's going to be a
very fun and interesting conversation. She's an advocate, she's a
television star and world class stand up comedian. Let's welcome
Amy Schumer. That's hot. Yes, thank you so much for
doing this. By the way, thanks for thinking of me.
I'm excited. Have you guys worked together before? No, who's communicated,
(01:55):
just loved, just sent love to each other. You guys
are both very lovely people, so that would make perfect sense. Definitely.
So I've been watching expecting Amy, and I have fallen
even more in love with you. Oh my god, I
hope you aren't like puking watching it. No. I love
(02:16):
just how just funny you are, how brave you are,
just everything that's just that's a really amazing that you
let people in like that. Thank you. Was it hard
for you since you're probably used to like being an
actress and a comedian and being on stage, but mostly yeah,
it was. I think I was. I think it was
a defense mechanism, like I think I felt. So. I
(02:38):
think a lot of reason that a lot of people
get into stand up is because of some trauma when
they're younger, and so it's like a way to feel control,
you know. So I feel like I think that I was,
like let's film this and film on our cell phones,
because to me, it felt like I could control it
in that way or something, you know, because I felt
so vulnerable. And then and the whole time we were shooting,
(03:00):
it was like, we might not use any of this.
We're not gonna put any pressure on ourselves to turn
this into anything. So that kind of took the heaviness
off of it um and it made it funny because
like so much, I was vomiting so much that it
was just funny, Like it was just like I I was,
(03:21):
except for the times where I had to go to
the hospital. I was like and even then I was
still joking. But it's just you have to laugh because
it's so awful. It's such a living nightmare. I did
make the mistake of trying to watch it while eating breakfast,
and it was rough. There should be a warning, there
should be a real warning. Oh my god, and my
(03:43):
son pigged on me last night. Like it was just
one of those like you know, like if you've ever
had a baby, at the pleasure of having a baby
throw but it's like so much, like you can't believe
it's coming out of them. And it was like I
was just slimed, like I had to change my underwear
was soaking wet like everything, and it was like, you know,
(04:05):
and I almost threw up that I was It's just
vomiting is funny. You know that's hot. That's hot. How
old is your son? I want to say, And I'm
just kidding. He's just he's gonna turn too in May.
So it's all worth it, all the vomiting. Yes, the
(04:26):
hype is real. He lives up to the hype. Everybody
said it'll be worth it, and that's one of the
things you just want to punch people in the face.
But did see I'm having a really good experience with
the you know, having a kid post post pregnancy. Did
seeing expecting Amy for you Paris make you nervous at
all about anything? Like? Um, Yeah, it made me nervous
(04:48):
because I feel like that's the scariest part is being
pregnant and then actually having the baby. Like I've been
going through IVF like all during quarantine, which I thought
was like the perfect time to do it. Pince, the
world is like shut down. How is your experience with
IVF um, Well, first of all, I'm glad to hear
you say that it's not that it didn't put you
(05:09):
off of having kids, because that was my fear that
people would see it and be like, this could happen
to me. I'm not doing this. Um IVF for me
was really really brutal. I had a very hard time.
Um yeah, I think I also like found out this
year that I've lime and I have endometrios, so so
my body just kind of whatever autoimmune stuff I have,
(05:32):
Like I felt real sick and I bruised and and
then you know, the outcome was was you know some
people have I had like this crazy like I had
like They're like, we have thirty one eggs, and I
was like, oh my god, I'm a goddess. And then
it was like, okay, eleven of them fertilized, and then okay,
(05:54):
one is normal. You know, I got like one normal
embryo out of it. So it was like, so I
was like, and you know a lot of people do
it many times, so it was a real roller coaster
and I don't think that I could do it again.
How was it for you? Just like you said, it's
so emotional, it's really hard. Like my heart goes out
to people who have to go through all of that,
(06:16):
because it really is a lot just physically too. You know,
the shots are like I hate needles and like you know,
and hard to my hands. Like really like keep myself
being nice to Chris because I mean, truly, we're getting
needled all this stuff and they have to jerk off
(06:37):
into a cup and they're done. Yeah, the guy is
gonna easy. I know, I'm like, this is so unfair. Um.
But speaking of of Chris, he's the nicest. He's so
great in your cooking show. He's really sweet and expecting Amy,
he was just so sweet. I gotta imagine having that
support made it all just that much easier. He he's
(07:01):
a really deeply kind person and very supportive and did
his absolute best. But he also he's on the spectrum
and so you know those times where you're like looking
for some empathy, like to communicate with it. You know,
we have we we go to therapy like we have
well we don't go we's we talked to our therapists
(07:22):
when we need to. Um. Sometimes that communication is is
hard and it's like, you know, really what I needed
during my pregnancy was truly a home attendant like I
And that's why a lot of women who get hyperamesis.
I think fifty of the marriages fail because of how
sick you are, how neaty you are, and you just
(07:45):
aren't available, you know to um. And because of my privilege,
I could, you know, I'm assistant. I had people helping,
but but really it was just me and him and
and it I mean, it's not it's nine months. That
is not a joke. That's a long time, you know
to be like just waiting on somebody basically. Um, but
(08:07):
he's such a great partner and such a great dad.
It's it's crazy. But you know we run into trouble communicating,
like I think every other couple. Um. Yeah, and he's
also but you know, like like I was laughing because
I'll say something like that I feel is really meaningful
(08:28):
to him. Like I said to him, I go, even
though you know, COVID has been awful, and like, in
some ways, it's been the best time of my life
with you. And he looked at me and he went,
I'm gonna go put the windows up in the car.
And I'm just like okay, Like he's you know, he's
(08:48):
very very funny. Um. Sometimes you will say the dead
wrong thing. Yeah, you and parents have kind of similar
relationship arcs with the whole COVID thing at It's like,
you know, it was a fairly quick relationship right for
both people before the engagement and everything. Do you think
that helps? I think in your guys this case, maybe
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it helps because you know everything was still so honeymoony. Well,
I think when you're I mean, that's the thing though,
like you know when I'm when we met, I think
I was either thirty seven or thirty eight. Um, you know,
we've I'll speak at both pars and myself. We've dated
and we've dated, we've we've been in long relationships, and
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I think part of that makes you, like when you
do find the person that you want to like partner
up with for life. I feel like, you know, I
felt like old enough to make that decision. Like we
both knew. We were like, let's go. This is this
is good, this isn't. I don't know what I saw
some but they were like, it's not enough to just
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fall in love, because like, fall in love is amazing,
and I've done it, and and Chris and I fell
in love. But it was like, you know, my dad
as a MSC's in a wheelchair, You're like, who's gonna
push my wheelchair? Like who? And then and the pandemic exactly,
You're like, how did we do during a global pandemic?
Like you find out a lot about somebody in that time,
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and congratulations on your engagement. That's so exciting. I'm so happy.
That's like you said, when you find the one you
just know and it's like your person and after going
through other dating, like you just you don't want to
waste time like once you like, I don't know. I
was just like I would have rather been single forever
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if I hadn't met him. I feel like I feel
like he was made for me exactly. Yeah, I was
like kind of I had almost like accepted that, like, Okay,
I'm gonna, you know, just be close with my family
and friends and maybe I'll fall in love a couple
more times. It probably won't get married. And then this
person shows up and you're like, nope, I want to
partner up with you, and let's start now. We want
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to start our lives now. It's not about the wedding.
Even though we did have a blast our wedding and
we went all out, um, we just were like, let's
get started on our on our life together, and yeah,
and we really like being married. I'm excited for that. Yeah,
how do you think Carter is gonna handle the IVF stuff?
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He seems like he's so ready and he's been amazing
because we've been doing it the whole quarantine, so he's
just been so supportive. And I can't imagine doing it
with anyone else. I would never I don't know, I
never even thought about doing it. I didn't even know
what it was until like like a year ago. Right,
your body tells you like when you meet that person,
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you can't it's not about anything that you're just like,
I want to make babies with you. What we said that,
you know, Yeah, I love it. Yeah, you guys are
so key together. I love it. Oh, thank you. I mean,
things are still hard, so it's not like, you know,
it's not just like I found my person and every
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day is you know, we especially during the pandemic, it
was also like we would really you know, we would
get into it um, but also just like whatever, just
move on, you know, like because you're fighting with someone,
but then you also want to watch the Bachelor with them,
so you're like, okay, can we just skip to the
end and watch our our reality show that we're going
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to watch. Yes. The other day we were talking about
kind of everything with especially with Letterman and some of
these comedians, and you being a comedian. Uh, you've been
pretty good at avoiding crossing the line. And we've talked
about how Paris was kind of the line for a while. Paris,
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Brittany like, was kind of like the center of a
lot of jokes, well what's your thought on comedy right now?
And and this kind of PC culture. But it's also
you know, now I get to see it from the
other side, being close with Paris, where you get to say, oh,
this is a person who dealt with a lot of
people saying these things. Yeah, I think, um, I think,
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I think it's really important that and and kind of
amazing to be hearing to be you know, to be
hearing this story from um from the person's perspective, you know,
from Britney's perspective, from Paris' perspective, because you're like, there's
one way you can think of someone and Okay, you
can make them a fast punch line, but then to
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be like, hey, if you're interested in take the time.
You can see how hard these women work and that
they they're not there by accident, like they have created
their own um, you know, potentially they've created their own careers.
And I mean changed the world, I mean really changed
the world. And so um, you know people who are
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kind of getting in trouble now for something that they
said years ago. I think that's okay. And like, I
made jokes that I'm not proud of now. I was
trying to think. I was like, did I ever write
a joke about Paris? I know I had one joke
and it wasn't about Paris, but I think it was.
It was something like, well, first of all, I loved
a Simple Life. I don't know if I ever told
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you about, but I just thought it was I just
thought you guys were so funny and I just loved
I felt like it was such a feminist, funny show.
And then so I had this dog. I'm like, I
said something it was like something with Paris Hilton. Then
her dog, the chihuahua, what's its name? Oh yeah, no,
but that was we joke, Like, you know, that was
a joke. Um, But you know what, I've joked about
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Kim over the years, and I'm friends with Kim and uh,
but I think, yeah, like you get older, like as
a comedian who did roasts, like I started out doing
a roast on Comedy Central, and and then as I've
gotten older, like these these have consequences, and these will
hurt people's feelings, And so I don't want to say
a joke that's going to hurt someone's feelings anymore. And
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and in terms of you know, making people, anybody who's
upset about cancel culture, I think is probably has problematic behavior. Um.
I think the way that people are being um asked
to answer for themselves. If you aren't, I don't. If
you're evolving and you're educating yourself, then then I think
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it's okay and and hopefully you won't be canceled or
whatever if you are actually putting in genuine, authentic efforts
to to educate yourself and and and move with the
culture in the way that thank god it's going. Um
and with celebrity, it just reached mean Paris and Brittany
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like were the like nothing. It's crazy to have lived
during that, to like have witnessed that and just that
whole era and and the fact like coming out of
it and having a career and a family and relationships
like that is not easy and a lot of I
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would say people can't handle it, couldn't handle it. And
so I think there's really something to be said for
having this long career because it's not about it's like, Okay,
so I'm this quick joke to you right now, whatever
I mean to you. Um, but you know, time time,
time tells it's like, no, I'm like working and I
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have a whole infrastructure and um. But you know, it's
like what people think of you is none of your business.
I really think it's it's you knowing who you are
and the people close to you and what you're doing.
You know. So like I think, yeah, like let people talk,
let people have an idea of who you are, because
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the truth I think does come out. You said that
her on Simple Life was like, you know, empowering from
a feminist perspective, but you said it was it was
feminist feministic. Um, I agree. Now, knowing that Paris was
doing a basically a performance the entire time with Nicole
and captivating the entire world, did you know that at
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the time or were you, like the public just being
like I can't tell no, I I felt like I
could tell. I remember thinking, these girls are so funny
and I would love to hang out with them. You know,
I knew like it was playing things up. It wasn't
like the count, it wasn't like hidden camera show on
them like it was like they know. I knew it
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was working and why it was funny and no, I
loved it and I loved that, and I still love that,
like unapologetic, um, you know, just self actualized like people.
You know, there's this podcast that I love called Poog.
It's a goop backwards with Jacquelnovac and caper Land, and
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it really is just like people not apologizing for who
they are and just sharing their genuine thoughts and feelings.
And there's just something so refreshing about that because, um,
especially right now where people are really checking themselves and
as we should be, you know, UM, it's just fun
to see people like, you know, fully living in their
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own skin and being like, this is me and this
is who I am and where I come from, and
I'm going to share this like you know, insight into
my life, but I'm not going to apologize for it
is just so appealing to me. I want to listen
to that Oh yeah, it's so funny, poog. All the
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reasonchs we have to do for the show is like
listen to these twelve podcasts, and so my list has
gone exponentially bigger. Now. So you guys watching any TV shows? Um,
ship's creek as I really love? Yeah, I watched just Reality.
I just watched like Love After lock Up and Nanky
Dave Fiance. Oh I watched that. That was hilarious. Love
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After lock Up so good. I watch it live on Fridays. Yeah,
I watched it live in my house. When I was
like twenty three years old. My step brother got a
prison and basically got engaged or they were like dating. Seriously,
I don't know if they ever got engaged to a
woman that he had never met. And then they got
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out of prison and came over the day that he
got out, and I was like, I thought to myself,
this should be a show. And then years later it
was a real show. Oh my god, you lived Love
after lock Up and it is should go. How did
it go? Um? Not good? If you're the type of
proson spoiler alert, it never if you ever go to
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your therapist and go, So I'm seeing this guy, he's
getting out in a few months. It's just it couldn't
be a bigger red flag for both people. There's no good.
If you're saying somebody's getting out of anything, probably not good. Yeah. Absolutely.
What can you remember, like when you were younger, what
were you what were your toxic relationships? Like, what were
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the traits that like you would find yourself being attracted
to or situations where like why do I keep ending
up in this situation? Oh? God? Well, first of all,
I was probably toxic. Um. But yeah, I mean I
liked I got in a pattern of dating guys that
were like I just thought were so funny and brilliant
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and that I didn't deserve to be with them, who
weren't that nice to me? Um? And then at the
you know, towards the end of the relationship, I would
realize like, wait, I'm like I'm actually better than them. Um,
And they have been, you know, and they've been manipulating
me to feel bad about myself so that I would stay.
I feel like I needed to stay. And that's a
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pattern that it took me a while to break. Um. Yeah,
but you know that those patterns can be broken, which
is really cool, Like anybody can wind up in the
in an abusive relationship. UM, that's the thing. And also
just to bring up the work that you've been doing
Paris with UM the school you went to. Uh. You know,
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I think people get an idea in their heads of
like I had a strong person or whatever, like won't
fall prey to any sort of abuse, and it's just
not true. Like you, there's no one type of person
that that happens to. It's it can happen to absolutely anyone. UM.
And you know, the key is to I think once
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you realized it happened and you're ready to talk about it,
to speak out to prevent it from happening for other people.
Like I think about that now, like any situation, even
if I'm in like a doctor's office and he makes
me uncomfortable or something, I'll call out the behavior. Thinking
about the next woman who comes in here. I have
a responsibility to her, you know, just like you have
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felt the responsibility to you know, students who are coming after.
I appreciate that and realize, you know, telling that story
was so difficult and so hard, and I never thought
I would ever talk about it again. But I'm so
grateful that I did, because now I'm literally changing laws
and saving children, and just to feel that I kind
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of made me think that maybe that happened for a reason.
Maybe I had to go through that because I could
one day use my voice to help the others. And
I just know the little girl in me would be
so proud of the woman that I am today. Can
I say this that's hot? Yeah? This is Paris, This
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is Paris. I do want to ask you, Paris, the
same question about the relationships though, because I feel like
you had some public relationships, I'm sure you also had
many that people don't know about. Or was that not
the case that everybody find out everything? They were mostly public,
there was some private, but the media always I dated
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Prince william Id. What were the toxic like traits, personalities
you were attracted to? What were the situations? Um just
I was relating to so much what Amy was just saying,
how they would try to make me feel feel bad
about myself, where I would feel like I needed them
and I don't know, just trying to make me feel
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insecure and then just worse things obviously as well, like
being verbally abusive, physically abusive, emotionally just cheating, just trying
just to do mean things all the time, um, with
a lot of people. So I've been through it. I
feel like a lot of I mean, I think it goes.
Men can also be in this situation, but primarily men
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are the ones with the egos in the relationship who
need for some reason to make the other people feel bad.
And I don't think it is funny. You don't realize
that until you're older, that that is something you went
through time and time again. What are some of the
like things if you don't mind, if it's not too
uncomfortable to like, what would someone say to you? What
would guy say? Because I think there's a lot of
young women listening to this right now who probably don't
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know that that's happening to them, and they just think
to themselves, why do I feel kind of bad all
the time? Right? Right? Well, you know my abuse went
like pretty far, um, but you know it was subtle
things just like like I remember one time we were
like at a gas station meeting this guy and I
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picked I got out of the car and I like
kind of picked my wedgie and he was like, that's
so gross when you do that, Like that makes me sick. Um,
And you know, now i'd be like, are you kidding me?
You know, but at the time I was just like, oh,
that's unappealing, and he would um, and he was a
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photographer at the time, and he'd be like my ex
girlfriend like would have done this so well, and you know,
all of that up to the point of really wanting
to hurt me and chasing me with a knife or um.
One time I was in the shower and he just
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opened the shower curtain and he just laughed at me,
just like started laughing at me. Um and uh, and
he I think he peeed on me. He peeed on
me in the shower while he was laughing at me.
So and this was when I was like early twenties,
you know. Um, but I this is after years of
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kind of grooming and brainwashing. Um. And then but once
I saw that it was so you know, went from
real subtle things to um, you know, locking me in
a room and all that. But but once I realized,
I don't know what it was. It was just one
day I was out of nowhere. He said something and
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I just realized, like, oh, he's just really afraid of
losing me. None of this has been true and it's
all about that, and I couldn't unsee it. And so
when he would say something me and I was almost
laughing at him, and then I was just really angry.
Um yeah, and uh and and you know, and and
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still I stayed for I don't know, a month or
something and then um yeah. And then there was a
night where he, uh, we have this insane night. I
wrote about it in my book, but it was just
crazy and he did wind up chasing me with a knife. Um. Yeah.
But it's just it's not you know, when people say
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I read some interview with um, is it f k
A Twigs? Okay, am I the oldest person in the world,
I'm like, f cut Twig. That's where she's like, people
need to stop asking the why didn't you leave? It's like, um,
because with abuse, it's not it's not cut and dry
like that. You know, it's not. It's not easy. And um.
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So I'm just I'm so like sensitive to those patterns
now and it's of me a long time to be
able to trust a guy. H And I still struggle
with that a little bit, you know, sometimes like a
guy who would truly try and like sabotage you, and
you know, yeah, I'm gonna cry. I want to knock
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that guy out, like the biggest bummer. Yeah, it's about
did you have like just so much like just very
scary experiences where I look back now and I'm like,
I cannot believe that I like stood for that or
thought that was okay, or stayed with someone continuously when
they would do things like that. Um so your family too,
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you know, it's like your family and your friends are
watching this, Like, but there's a lot of shame. Do
you feel ashamed? Almost so I would like stick up
for them and lie and be like, no, that's not true,
it's not happening because I was embarrassed for myself or
I don't know, there's like the shame that comes with it.
And I think for a girl's listening, do not be
ashamed and be honest and talk to someone who will
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talk sense and do you and let you know, like
you need to get away from this person. They are
abusing you, whether it's verbally, emotionally, physically, anything that's not right,
and the person does not love you, they they shouldn't
be in your life. So I don't know the thing
the hell of the hell of being in love with
someone who hurts you is really really painful. Rain are
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ai n N is a great resource, um, you know
for somebody reaching out looking to take maybe for steps
or just talk to somebody trying to get out of
an abusive relationship. You mentioned, Yeah, it's not this like,
it's not like you know, really, I had this stereotype
in my head of what I thought somebody who was
abused would look like, and it wasn't me. Um. But
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especially during the pandemic, it's been really hard. Women are
trapped with their abusers. Have international Women's Yes, Well, I
think this is so important for a lot of women
to hear. I think one there is obviously Paris has
this kind of aura of like Paris Hilton. I think
we all growing up with it. I never would have
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associated that, especially as a young man. I would have
never associated that with like any sort of any sort
of vulnerability. And I think Amy is a stand up
comedian and a very successful one. I think the same thing,
Like I, you're so self deprecating in your humor, which
I love. It's definitely my family's brand of humor as well.
But is that did that become a coping mechanism? Was
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that always the case, did you transition into kind of
making fun of yourself first? Yeah, I was totally born
out of a defense mechanism um and still is and
and and not just a defense mechanism like sort of
about my self esteem, but also like with what made
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me so sexual and talk about such sexual stuff when
I was starting out and stand up um because now
like I have the lowest tea in the world. Um.
But you know, when I was starting, it would be
like I would think if a guy, you know, if
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if it was about control. Again, So, if I felt
like a man was going to make some sort of
a sexual comment about me, like I would want to
make it first, you know. Um, not just not even
just to be made fun of, but just to be
like sexualized. I wanted to be in control of that.
So um yeah. Like so any jokes, like especially self
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deprecating jokes, which I still enjoy making, but even those
I started to find were harmful to could be harmful
to people because they're like, if she's making jokes that
she's fat, then what am I? You know, like so
and I just yeah, so I try not to do
that anymore. Um, with that thought in mind. Uh, but
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sometimes it's it's just too fun. Um. You know. It's
like I'm about to start shooting a TV show and
I'm turning forty this year, you know, and like so
from you know, so I like basically a Mitch McConnell
like double chin, Like if I so on camera, you know,
like so on set, I will. I'll make jokes about it,
(31:31):
you know, but just because it makes me, I don't know,
it makes me feel better to be like okay, and
can somebody come light my other chin? Uh? Yeah, some
of those I'll just I'll have to keep those with me.
Are you self deprecating Paris? I think I am? I
think yeah. It's like on The Simple Life, I was
always kind of you know, laughing at myself almost where
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I think people didn't understand that, but I always knew
exactly what I was doing and saying it was all
just like an act. And maybe some of that also
does stem back from that, which you know, I'm realizing
so much in this past year. Like I didn't even
know who I was like a year ago. So I
really have learned so much and why I am the
way because of things that have happened in my past.
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That's interesting. People like yes, you know if if people
are like you're a paranoid, it's like, because I've been
truly betrayed several times, and the people who are supposed
to trust the most, you know, it's like those parts
of I would say us are earned. Yeah, I know
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you've dealt with a lot of you know, people portraying
your trust. Obviously. People want to be in the circle,
and then they want to take advantage of the circle.
What's that like, you know, like not being not being
sure of anybody coming into your life. I think in
l A it's something you get used to. I've been
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used so many people and it's hard to really let
people in. Um. That's why I like a very small
group of friends that I trust. What about you, Amy, Um,
I want to be in the circle. UM, and I
just need to be up front about that. UM. I
am the same I. You know, I was like made
train Wreck and my sketch show and like got pretty
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famous pretty quick. And UM, you know you get all that,
like all these things that are in front of you
and it's all nonsense, you know, And I feel like
you have come out of that and been like, Okay, no,
these are the things and these are the people that
make me happy. So I have a I have a
I would say, a pretty small group of really good friends. Um,
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my best friends are you know, comedians to the Bridget
Ever Rachel Feinstein, and then um, and then my friends
from home. My my best friends that are you know,
nurses and teachers from like middle school, we've been friends,
you know. Then there's like another tier. But I don't like,
you know, my level of fame and whatever is very
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different than yours. So I don't yeah as much. I
don't have to be as protective like people. If there's
something they want from me, they'll I'm really good about
boundaries too, I'll just be like no, um, but yeah,
people don't want uh, I don't think because they're not
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trying to get into my circle. Uh, you know, they're
just like so, I have a different experience. It's it's
probably like intense. I would guess. The perks of being
a stand up comedian are very insular to the stand
up comedian for the most part. It's not like being
a Paris in the world where I feel like people
I don't know what it is like. I know, so
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I've everyone I've talked to, you know, when I say
I'm going to do. I'm going to go interview Amy
with Paris today, and everybody says that you're the nicest
and that I've met you and that I think you're
as opposed to Amy saying it feels like you do
let people into an extent. You have a hard Do
you have a hard time saying no? I hate saying
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I'm like the least confrontational person in the world. I'm like,
I cannot say no. I'm like, I feel just shy
and weird. So you need to teach me how to
be like more asserted. No problem, I'm as glass. I
like it. Yeah, No, I mean it's well, the thing is,
it's like, you know, when people are asking you for something,
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they're already mad at you that they need something from you,
They already resent because and they're thinking you're going to
resent that you're asking. So it's this whole cycle that
you have no control over. So I'll either say like,
of course, or I'm trying to take things off my
plate right now and no, and and know that what
the consequence is that will piss them off. And it's
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also like people that you've done favors for for years
and the first time you say no, they're Maddie. So
it's like you have no control. So you know, just
and this is my new philosophy lately, whatever is going on.
Once I'm like stressed, I'm trying to wear and then
I just start going. I go, I think I'm doing
the best I can and I just kind of dance
like that I'm doing my best. And that's my philosophy. Okay,
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I'm gonna try that. I'm doing my best. I'm doing
my best. Yes, that's great. Do you do you want
to be better at saying no? Like do you think
that you will? Or do you have just so many
other safeguards in place, like your circle, your sister being
the gatekeeper. Yeah, I think yeah, my sister will be
the one that will say now, or I can try.
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Amy's a little dance smoth, just like change the subsect.
I don't know I'm doing here. Let's practice. I'll ask
you to do something. Okay, Okay, Paris, hey girl, it's
me Amy. Um. I'm doing a fundraiser for Chinchilla's um
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and uh and I really want to know if if
can you DJ from like three am to five am
at my Chinchilla fundraiser. It's to benefit the chinchilla. I
love chinchilla. Yeah, yes, three am to five, how about
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three am to seven. I'll do my best. I'll do
my best. Yeah. Maybe I shouldn't have come to you
with such a fly request. That was too that was
too good to say chinchilla. You're working. Amy wants you
to help with a chinchilla coat factory that she's launching,
and she would like you to. I know she would
have to my opening. I'd be like, no, that's a
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good harsh rejection. We like that one with with this. Yeah,
I'm doing my best and doing my best. Boy, that's
great advice. I help you hard. It's hard to like
to keep you know, your life running and also not
have people be mad at you. Like it's a lot
to juggle. And then people want you to remember their
birthdays and and you're just like, I can't win. It's
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a lot. So I have two words for you. Penis carrot,
tell us the story. Okay, this is really exciting. Actually,
I'm glad you're bringing up my penis carrot, that carrot
um which just wound up in our kitchen. And that's
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one of the things that Chris is so funny because
if I had found this carrot, I would have been
screaming and running around showing everyone. And I just I
touched jeen in and then I came out and he
was just kind of cooking dinner and he's just like,
you check out that carrot over there, like so dead pan,
like nothing, you know, And I picked it up and
I'm like, are you serious right now with this carrot?
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So anyway, I said it to my friend, um Tyler
and he um he like cast it and made twelve
bronze carrots and uh yeah, so we're going to auction
them off for charity in case people want them in
their in their homes. I know, I'm going to have
one at my home. They're so cheat. Yeah. Maybe it'll
(39:12):
be something for International Women's Day. Maybe that would be
a good I like it a good Charity's great? Are
they fully bronzed? Now? Are they ready? They're fully circumcised
and they're fully bronze. Yeah, they're ready. Do you have
any with you you can you send me that? He
just finished them? What, Oh you don't have it there
with you yet? No, they're at his warehouse. Um, yeah, thanks,
(39:36):
you don't believe that carrot. No, I thought you guys
like carved it or something. I was like, that could
not be real. No, Michelangelo couldn't have carved such a
perfect alice. This is Paris, this is seven next living questions,
(40:00):
Are you ready? I am? What is your spirit animal?
A penguin? Why? Okay? I thought it was past answers?
Um body type? Body type? No? I um uh, I
don't know. I kind of like how they do their
own thing, and they're they're communal and social. But then
(40:20):
once in a while you'll just see a penguin like
kind of just facing its own way off to the side,
like taking a minute. And you know, as an introvert,
I kind of like relate to that. Um, that penguin
kind of standing off to the side, just like doing
their own I just always love them. You're an introvert, Yeah,
I am? Are you? I'm a secret introvert. I pretend
(40:42):
to be an extrovert, but secretly that's what I am. Well,
that's the thing is stand up and also deejaang whatever.
It's like you're around people, but again you're you're controlling.
You want to everyone up a great time, but it's
and then I know, I want to go right back
to my I wish I could be being from the stage,
my bed, my hotel room. Like you know, I can
(41:03):
go out like once a month, go out and have fun,
and then like I need a month to be quiet
and to recharge. But do you think that if you
didn't have the jobs that you did, both being very
obviously public facing, that you would be like that person
in the accounting office who's like, guys, I've got a routine,
who wants to go to the bar afterwards and do this?
(41:25):
Like you don't think it's you need that somewhere, No,
I know, I mean I like to be social when
I feel comfortable and safe. Um, and like I can leave.
I yeah, Like I rarely say goodbye two people. Um
I yeah, no, I um, I really like I really
(41:48):
love talking to and being around my friends. But I
and and a quick a quick interaction. But I get
really like I you know, I used to go to
like a wedding with a boyfriend or something, you know,
or two sitting around with it, I'd be like, I can't.
I just want to leave and I go like lay
in a bed and eat and watch TV. I could relate.
(42:10):
You have three wishes what are they? Oh wow, Okay,
my number one wish is um. You know, of course
my family and friends are all healthy. Everybody's great. Uh.
I want to be able to fly. I'd like to
be able to fly. UM. And I would like for
(42:36):
I would love to be able to stamp my fingers
and have everybody be educated about this country's history of
of racism and the destruction. UM. And you know, just
like like so that everybody would be treated as as
human beings and equals and we could kind of wipe
(42:57):
out the actual cast system that we live in. UM.
I'm always talking about Isabelle Wilkerson's book Cast and UM,
just it really shines the light on you know, the
history of our country and you know why there's some
such a mistreatment of of especially black people. UM. So
(43:19):
flying equality for all? And then, UM, what's the next one?
I just want? Okay, I want I want my family
to just be like happy and together. Like I just
want Jean to grow up so happy and healthy. He's
like the most joyful child and I just want him
(43:39):
to keep that joy. What what is his new middle name?
Because I heard you had another. His new middle name
is David. So he was neighbor David Tell, which was
a mistake. Um, so he took his first name, which
is also the dad's middle name. So yeah, I want
to give him a fun Jewish sounding gene, David Fisher.
(44:05):
And what what is something that your kid has taught you?
Mm hmm um, Like how to like like calmly get
up when you're doused with endless vomit. Um, my kid
has teld me that I'm capable of so much more
(44:25):
than I than I understood. You just rise to the
occasion when it's your baby, and like you had all
you have all these instincts in you you didn't know
you had. I made a joke because Natalie Foreman told
me that she's like, you'll you know, you'll have more
instincts anything. And a lot of my instincts have been wrong. Um,
Like I just when I was leaving, when I was
(44:46):
coming over, um to record this with you. I so
I goodbye to him, you know, because we used to
just sneak out like like if I had to leave,
I would just be like, but now you know it's
better for tality. You know you're like, mom, he's leaving
and I'll see you very soon. Okay, but you know
when you let him like have a little meltdown and
(45:07):
then whatever. Um so my instincts are not always great,
but uh yeah, I mean everything. It's surprised me about
everything just yeah, like getting to know myself as a
as a mom. Um yeah, and just how much you're like, yeah,
just that love like you just it's not about you,
(45:27):
you know, it's like you really just want to get
out of the way. But everybody says that we'll mess
them up anyway. So sweep win did non answer? I
like it. Your top three bucket list items okay, um okay.
Number one on the bucket list is I really do
(45:49):
want to do everything I can to move the culture
forward for women and also educating myself and helping educate
other people about the struggle of um her, black and
marginalized people. Uh so that's big on my bucket list.
I would like to go to Africa. Sorry too, I
(46:13):
guess are kind of related, but yes, have you been
to Africa? Love it? Yes, it's incredible, that's amazing. All right,
I have to get Safaris are so cool. It's just
like beautiful. I need to, um try to have another baby.
Uh and bucket list, um yeah, I know, I fly,
(46:40):
I sky don't once it was not cool. Uh. And
I've never been to Asia, and I'd love to go
to like Japan. I love Japan too, Oh my god. Okay.
And then it's what is the craziest thing that you've
done lately? Oh my god. Well, I'm in New Orleans,
so a lot u Um yeah, what's the craziest thing?
(47:05):
I mean, we were you know, we love it here. Uh.
Nola is a major like second home. I just love
it here. I've been coming since I was like sixteen,
came here when you know, we chilled out here for
a couple of months. I was pregnant. It's just the
city is the people, the food, the vibe. It's just
(47:27):
there's some quote who said this. He said they said
there's only New York, San Francisco, and New Orleans. Everywhere
else is Cleveland. I have to look up who said that. Um. Yeah,
what's the craziest thing I've done lately? Um? I I
(47:49):
swam naked and my friend's pool two nights ago, well
while they were home without their permission. So I'd like
to say Ben and Jeanette, I'm sorry they catch you none. Yeah, Okay,
And the last one is a lot of them. What's
(48:10):
the kindest thing someone has done for you in the
past month? Mm hmm um. You know I'm gonna have
to say Chelsea Handler. Actually, uh, I was having like
(48:33):
some strife with with someone in my family, and she
she reached out, you know, out of nowhere kind of
and was like, I'd love to email that person for
you and like try to you know, fix things. Um,
this person we were both friends with, and uh, and
(48:55):
I didn't want her to do that, but it really
meant a lot to me that she was thinking about
me and that she, like I wanted to go out
of her way to try to help, because I understand
those instincts, you know. Um, but usually it's like you
feel like you're thinking of how you can help other people.
So it felt really really moving to me that she
was thinking about me. Ah. Yeah, and Chris made some
(49:19):
really good mushroom soup yesterday too. Yes, that was my
seven s living questions. Okay, well those are great. He
did a great job. Thank you so much for I mean,
just a really fun talk. Yeah, this was this was
a really good time. I'm glad we got to I'm
glad we got to talk and um, I'll send you
(49:41):
your call time for the Chinchilla's Yes, we find out
it was a real thing, and that was just her
way of Yeah, it was really want you guys want
to sing me out with UM, I'm doing my best,
doing the best, do my best. Yeah, thank you so much,
(50:02):
you guys. I had a great time. Thank you so
much for the best, and can't wait to meet you
in real life. I know me too, all right bye.
Repair is kind of fun to hear. I imagine that
someone that we both admire, you admire, Amy Schumer ended
up being a huge fan of you and really admire
not only you know the simple life, but everything you're
(50:23):
doing with your advocacy. It made me so happy to
hear because I've always loved her, and just to hear
someone speak like that about me just it made me
feel just so proud and excited and just feel so
good all over. Like it's like, well, Amy Schumer loves me.
(50:44):
There's a lot of women supporting women love on the
perfect day, International Women's Day, and I think the only
thing left to do would be figure out how to
get Amy into your circle. I would love that. I
think she would be so much fun to hang out
with and she's just awesome. Like I was not expecting
that conversation. I thought I knew it was gonna be funny,
(51:06):
but we went very deep, like we were talking about
just just so many things that are really important issues.
And you know, I was surprised just to hear about
her past relationships and what she's been through. So that
was emotional to hear because I could really relate to it,
and I'm sure a lot of girls listening right now
could relate to that. And I thought that she gave
(51:28):
incredible advice regarding it. And yeah, I was just surprising
because I've always just seen her like to set this
strong woman, and I never knew that she had went
through all that. But um, as people say that, you know,
you never know what someone's been through in life, and
that's a huge example of that today. And I'm happy
(51:50):
that she is brave and tells her story and she's
right that it's so important to do that. Yeah, well,
I think she's in the circle. She'll be happy to
know when she listens to this episode that it's confirmed
and you can pick up your invite amy whatever you'd like.
Yes from Slivington Manor, and thank you guys so much
for listening to this episode. Thank you guys. I hope
(52:13):
you all enjoyed, and make sure to subscribe and leave
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