This is… Holly Madison

It's a Holly Jolly Podcast.  Holly Madison joins Paris.
Holly and Paris sharing memories of why partying was better back in 2000 and now discussing their baby names.
Plus, a few juicy secrets from Girls Next Door.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is Paris. Hey everyone, we're back with another episode
of This is Paris. Today's guest is Holly Madison. So
excited to have some fun girl talk. Yeah, I'm excited

(00:23):
to find out because I feel like your story is
obviously very different, but there are some weird similarities and
kind of like the perceptions and you guys having to
like show the world you really were. So I'm really
excited to find out about that. And then as a
guy who grew up watching Girls next Door, I you know,
I feel like everybody has questions about that. So okay, well,

(00:46):
you know, without further ado, I want to spend some
time talking to her. Let's meet Holly Madison. Hey, guys, Hi, Holly,
how are you good? How are you? Honey? You look beautiful? Thanks?
So do you? Thank you? Pretty and pink? Thanks? I
work since your color? I mon theme. I love it.
I love when people do that brilliant move. I actually

(01:11):
want to know, Holly, how did you in Paris first meet?
Do you remember? You know? I think we first met
way back, um, like in the early two thousand's, just it.
I don't remember which night club, but it was at
some nightclub. I was there with half and the girls,
And I remember Paris was like one of the very
few celebrities we would meet who would actually like stay

(01:32):
hi to the girls and not just half because most
other celebrities we'd meet would look at us like we
were totally fucking weird and just like ignore that we
were even there. So I always thought you were the nicest, Paris.
I always loved you girls, and I was always much
fun going out with you guys, and just yeah, the
two thousands were so much fun. Oh my god. Yeah,
it was such a different time at the clubs and everything. Literally,

(01:55):
like people don't even know what fun is anymore. That
I don't even go out anymore because it's just depressing
compared to like how it used to be back in
the day. It is, it was so different when nobody
had cameras or their phones out all the time. I
definitely ruined the nightlife in Los Angeles first year. What
was your first You said that she was the first

(02:16):
person to say hi? Do you did you have a
first impression of Paris? Did her saying Hi? Do you
maybe change what you thought about Paris? Well? I didn't
really have any preconceived notions because I think Paris when
we met you, it was like right before the Simple Life,
so like i'd heard your name around, like you were
kind of known as like an heiress would always go out.
But I didn't really have like a preconceived notion because

(02:40):
it was before the Simple Life and before everything really
blew up. So I remember I knew your name because
I saw your name mentioned in like a gossip column
or something, and I remembered it just because your name
is so pretty, like I love I like, I love
a unique name. So I didn't really have any preconceived
notion before. I just thought you are really pretty and

(03:00):
really nice and kind of seemed like the girl who
had everything. I feel like a lot of people thought
that about you. I mean, again, very different. Maybe not
the heiress thing, but I know so many people who
and I saw you on Call Her Daddy, same thing.
She looked up to you so much, the host of
that show, and so many girls I think looked up

(03:21):
to both of you guys in uh, probably like the
best ways of you know, just kind of powerful women.
Was that Is that weird for you to have like
people who say, like, oh, I looked up to you
that entire time. Do you love it? Do you like
the kind of like guidance you were able to give.
I love meeting people and talking to people, whether it's

(03:43):
on social media or in real life who loved the show,
and I found it really interesting and would have like
loved to live that life. But I also think in
my case, it's important to know that that life wasn't
just what you saw on TV. There was a lot
of downsides that came with it as well, So I
think that's important for people to know. But I do

(04:04):
love meeting people who saw like the fun side and
saw the good times that we did have. It's really
nice to connect over that. So it's just it's just
interesting how nothing really is what it seems. Yeah. Yeah,
reading some of your book kind of gave a big
enlightenment there. But before we get into that, Uh, you

(04:24):
in Paris, I met at the some nightclub. Do you
have any favorite memories together? Did you see each other
a lot after that? We didn't really like hang out
or anything. Paris would just always come over and say
hi and be really nice, and we'd always see you
at the parties at the mansion and stuff, and we
just always thought you were a really nice, friendly person

(04:45):
and really pretty, and then it wasn't long after that
that you got the simple life and everything blew up.
And I always really looked up to you, um as
far as like a reality show star, because you really
did it in the biggest way and did it in
a way where you really like maximized your business potential
off of it. So when I got to be on
a reality show too, you were always somebody that I

(05:07):
looked up to as far as like what could be possible?
Thank you, I'm so proud of you and everything you've done.
I loved your show. I love that your residency in
Vegas that was so amazing. Was that hard to do?
I can't imagine having to do a show all the
time in Vegas live like sounds like so nerve wracking,
And yeah, it was definitely a strict schedule, but the

(05:28):
show was so much fun, Like it was exactly the
type of show I wanted to do. Like, I've been
in love with burlesque ever since I've seen Data Batiste
performed like years earlier, and I always wanted to do
something like that, And Peep Show was kind of like
the last big budget burlesque show that ever existed in Vegas,
so I feel really fortunate to be a part of it,
and the cast was so fun and amazing, and I

(05:50):
think sometimes the biggest challenge for me was just to
like keep a straight face on stage, because we had
so much fun together that sometimes I couldn't even get
my lines out without laughing. And I would like hear
from the producer and the directors in New York, like, Holly,
you need to stop laughing, But I'm like, I'm just
having too much fun. That's the best feeling. I love that, yeah,

(06:13):
for sure. But I mean the work schedule was pretty
intense because it's like six nights a week and sometimes
you're doing more than one show. So I remember at
the time thinking it would be nice to have more
time off so I could travel and like actually enjoy
some of this money I'm making and things like that.
But it's really, like, I have no complaints. It was
just such a fun show and such an amazing thing
to be a part of, and it was exactly what

(06:34):
I wanted to be doing. That's great. Speaking of the money,
I heard a crazy rumor that you didn't make any
money the first time you were on Girls next Door.
You weren't paid. They e ordered eight episodes initially, and
they later added more to season one, and we weren't
paid for the first order of shows. And at the

(06:57):
time I didn't even question it because I've been living
at the man and for like three or four years,
and I had just it was a really weird, duck, controlling,
weird relationship, and I just had got to the point
where I was so conditioned. I wasn't even gonna like
rock the boat or like ask for anything. I was
just like grateful for the opportunity, and I thought maybe
if we got to be on a reality show, maybe

(07:18):
we could do like a really cool magazine pictorial or
something like. I didn't really have high expectations, but Bridget
and Kendra were asking, you know, why are we not
getting paid? And the producer would always get really mad
and he would just say, you guys are totally replaceable.
We don't need to pay you. You're living here rent free,
which it wasn't really rent free, like we had a
lot of obligations and things, but he was like, yeah,

(07:40):
you're replaceable, We're not going to pay you. And it
wasn't until I was talking to have secretary Mary O'Connor,
and you know, you want to look cute for the show,
so you're buying clothes. It wasn't anything crazy, like I
wasn't even like spending a lot of money on design
or clothes or anything. But you'd want to buy clothes
for the scenes, or you'd want to buy things for
certain scenes. So at one point, after we shot about
four or five episodes, I showed her my receipts and

(08:02):
I'm like, you know, we're spending money to be on
the show, and she was like, Okay, this isn't right.
So finally she got on the phone with somebody and
we ended up getting paid. But for yeah, those first
set of episodes we can get paid for, which is
just weird, Like it's not industry industry standard, it's not
how anybody else would be treated on a show. So
it was just strange because we're kind of treated like
children in a way, almost like the way people will

(08:25):
like put their kids on YouTube and not even think
about it. It's just like here and you're my kids,
so you're going to be a part of this. It
was just assumed that we would be part of whatever
I have wanted to do, So it was really weird
that way. Speaking of kids, I love your kids names
Rainbow and thank you, thank you so much. Yeah, I
used to when I was a little kid, or not

(08:47):
a little kid. I think it was like in sixth
grade there was a girl like two grades younger than me,
and her name was Rainbow, and I was so jealous
of that name. I wish it was my name, and
I never thought of like having it be my future
kid's name. I kind of forgot all about it until
I was ragnit and then the name dropped in my
head because they say from a spiritual perspective, like you
really name yourself. Like the parents think they're naming the kid,

(09:07):
but it's really like the sorry I'm getting like the
way out there, but it's really like the kids spirit
like putting the name. I totally believe that. With Rainbow
and then Forest, I actually wanted to name my son Dragon,
but that got because my ex husband wanted to name
the kid after one of his friends. But I so
love the name. It so fits him. It goes with rainbow,

(09:30):
and I just love trees so much, and like, I
grew up in the forest in Alaska, so it's really
the perfect name. So I'm not mad about it. But
does he have like a nickname or you just say
Forest always usually Forest. Someonemes to call m fofo or
focito or I mean a million dumb nicknames. Sometimes yeah,

(09:55):
Rain Beto, it just like it gets it goes all
kind of crazy places. But she doesn't really have a
short name. I think when I first namber, people are like, oh,
are you going to call her Rain? Like they're trying
to get me more. I'm like, no. But the cool
thing about southern California is that every kid has a
weird name or most like all the you know, preschools
and stuff that my daughter has been in, like everybody's

(10:16):
just loved her name, and a lot of the other
kids in the class have unusual names too, So it's
not like like I remember when it was announced I
was naming her that, I got all this hate on
social media and they're like, you're abusing your kids, You're
giving her a weird name, like and I felt kind
of bad for a minute, because sometimes you hear so
much hate you start to question. You're like, wait, did
I really make a bad choice. But it's worked out great,
Like it's not a weird thing out here, So I

(10:37):
love it. I love it. So much. Yeah, everybody's saying
Rainbow is a weird name. Is living in Nebraska and
there's twenty five people named John in every classroom. So yeah,
it's like Rainbow Bright. She is such an icon. Yeah,
this is Paris, Paris. Do you have your baby names

(11:03):
picked out? Yes, Um, London Maryland is going to be
my girl because I love that obviously with London, and
then Maryland was my grandmother's name, and I love Marilyn Monroe.
And then the boy. I'm not saying it. It's a surprise.
It's such a good night, something good. It's really good.

(11:23):
It's another like city. But I can't say who because
I'm scared, like someone's going to be pregnant and have
a baby and they're gonna like steal my name. Yeah. Yes,
but what happened to you, unfortunately, is there to be
like between now and the time your son was born,
there'd be like two eight kids named the exact same
unique thing. So probably smart you're keeping it a secret.

(11:46):
Maybe you'll tell us after the show. Yeah exactly. Uh there,
I feel like again, like I said earlier, you and
Paris both had this perception about you that you kind
of had to break Paris had this as Paris. Uh
the documentary come out? Um, did you get a chance?
Have you seen the Paris documentary? Absolutely? I loved it,

(12:08):
and I love that you are brave enough to tell
your story Paris. I think that's so amazing, and I
know it must have been hard, but obviously you've helped
so many people and I love seeing you go in
that direction and changing laws and all that stuff. That's
so amazing. But Alexandra, who directed your doc documentary, I
loved it so much. That was the one of the
reasons I participated in the Secrets of Playboy series that

(12:31):
they did on A and E because she directed that
as well. So that was why I agreed to talk
to her, and we had so many interesting conversations and
that I really, in a way didn't want to do
just because I felt like I already told my story
in my book. And sometimes you know, when you go
through something that's kind of traumatic to you, you when
you talk about it publicly, that's like trauma part two.
You don't want to do it again. You don't want

(12:52):
to like hear all the backlash from other people. And
I've already written about it. So I was like Okay,
well that story is done. You know, you can refer
to the book or what I her. Even though I
was having like some great conversations with Alexandra, but I
ended up deciding to do it because there were so
many other women coming forward with their stories and I
wanted to be supportive of that because I know what
it's like to come forward and not have anybody back
you up, even though you know there's people out there

(13:14):
who could, like nobody said anything, so um, but I still,
you know, I ended up being a twelve part series,
and I still never watched my episode. My episode was
the second one, and I watched every episode but mine
because I just like, I don't want to watch myself
talk about it. But yeah, she's an amazing director and
just realian and so kind and just you just feel

(13:36):
like you can open up to her because I had
never told anyone about what I went through, and she
was like the first person that I opened up to
about that. And ever since I told my story, it's
been the most healing experience of my life. And I
feel like it's changed my life and I feel like
such a different person. And I don't think that I
would be like how I am today. I don't think
i'd be married today. I don't think I would let

(13:56):
love in or anything if I hadn't like taken away
the trauma and broke down those walls that I had
like built up so high for so long. Yeah, and
just seeing how many people relate to your story, it's
really amazing. Thank you. Did you have a similar healing
experience watching I know you didn't watch your own episode,
but doing the book, doing the show, and then watching

(14:17):
everyone else's episode, do you feel like you got some
type of closure or you know, moving past it at
all for a while. No, because when the show was airing,
you know, it was a twelve part series once a week.
It wasn't like a binge thing. So for those twelve weeks,
I was having nightmares. Like every week I would watch
an episode and I would have a nightmare that night.

(14:38):
But it is really important, I think for me to
understand that there's other people. I mean, I knew there
were other people that went through what I went through
for sure, but just hearing other people say it publicly,
I think it was important for me to hear and
it was helpful, you know. I mean, I have mixed
feelings about because I feel like, I know it must
have been so hard for them to speak, so I

(14:59):
kind feel for them there too, But it is helpful
for me to hear other people say publicly that they
went through similar things. For sure. Yeah, well, now your
book is being adapted into a series. I hope you
don't have any more nightmares as this thing goes on.
Hopefully I'm over that. Yeah, So I before I started

(15:23):
asking about crazy stories from the Mansion, which I feel
like everybody kind of wants to know. How's development going
on the series? Is it what you expected? Is it crazy?
I've never done anything like this before, so I don't
really have any expectations. But it's really exciting because tomorrow
Weaving is playing me, and I was so excited to
hear that she had signed on. I was just blown away.

(15:46):
You know, she's so beautiful and so talented. And I
don't even know if they've announced the director yet, but
the director we have on board is amazing. You know.
The production team I've been working with since they optioned
this years ago, from day one, has been amazing and
I know they're the people to tell the story. And
it's been picked up. I can't say which network slash
streaming service it is because they haven't announced it yet,

(16:07):
but it's the one I wanted, So I'm so excited.
I just can't wait. You know, the director when we
were doing the pitches, she made like a whole vision
board deck for the whole thing of what she wants
the show to look like. And I was just blown
away by it because I'm like, if I wasn't, I mean,
I do want to watch it, but even if I
wasn't involved, like I would want to watch this so exciting. Okay,
before we get to the slipping questions, I want to know.

(16:32):
I mean again, I think I was like that perfect
age to just like imagine the parties at the Playboy mansion.
I know that there's there's the darker stuff, and there's everything,
but what are fun things that you remember, Like in Paris,
you two, because you went to so many parties, there
is there any fun crazy stories from those days. Yeah.

(16:52):
I had a lot of fun times, just you know,
celebrating you know, holidays and you know, doing things with
Gin and some of the other playmates I was friends with.
And once we started filming for the show, things got
a lot more positive and there were a lot more
fun things to do, and we felt a lot more empowered,
and there were a lot of good times and a
lot of fun times along with the bad times. And

(17:15):
you know, the parties were interesting because people always want
to hear like the super crazy like oh what did
you see? Like who did you see in the grotto
and things like that. But because I was there with Half,
I was kind of supposed to sit, you know, at
the table with him or like be on the dance
floor nearby. And you would never think this, but guests
want to behave in front of Half more than like

(17:35):
misbehaved because they want to be invited back, and they
don't want to like do anything weird or crazy in
front of him. So he would kind of go upstairs early,
and we were all supposed to go upstairs too early,
being like I don't know, one in the morning or something.
And I heard from other people that stuff would get
really crazy after he went upstairs. That was people just
went buck wild because they weren't really afraid of getting

(17:58):
in doubles, Like you could go on the groat, don't
see like all kinds of crazy ship go down? Can
I cuss on this? Yeah? And you know I would
hear funny stories about certain people just but as far
as like celebrities and stuff, we would have some big
names come. But it got to the point by the
time I moved in there where people were kind of

(18:20):
wise to the fact that like Playboy would take a
lot of pictures and like video and like put it
out to the news the next day. So when we
had bigger names celebrities, sometimes they would come like in
disguise or like in Halloween, in like a mask or something.
So you'd hear about somebody. A playmate would be like, oh,
we were hanging out with these guys. They were really
cool and they weren't mass and we didn't know who
they were. And at the end of the night they

(18:41):
were just like, oh, it's really funnying out with you,
and they took off their masks and it was like
Leonardo DiCaprio and told you choir something. So it's always
his movie. Always. They always had the crazy masks on.
Always Halloween, that's funny and Paris, what about you? Crazy
memories from the mansion. So many like back in the
day before it became like all corporate and like they

(19:03):
started selling tickets. Oh were they sell tickets? Completely. It
was so wild. Yeah, and that was around the same
time everybody started getting camera phones, so you like you
can't move, can take a picture. But before that you
weren't allowed to bring any cameras. Your camera would get confiscated.
So it really felt like this kind of oasis where

(19:25):
people could go, like celebrities or anybody could go, and
nobody was going to bother anybody for a picture. Like
there would be like the Playboy house photographer that would
like take pictures for half or whatever. But it was
totally a different world completely. That's so true. Like it literally,
like again, like social media ruined the clubs, it also
ruined the mansion because like before, no one out of camera.

(19:48):
Everyone was just having the time of their lives. The
Halloween parties were out of control. It was so much fun.
This haunted house, so scary, so good, everyone's costumes, everyone
looks so xy. It was like this fantasy world that
it would just go for Halloween, and I just the
Midsummer's Night Dream part I just loved dressing up because

(20:09):
it's like I felt like you could just be as
sexy as possible there and like you couldn't really get
away with that, like other parties. Absolutely, it was such
a good excuse to dress up. So I love dressing up,
and back then, like couseplay wasn't really a thing and
people weren't getting like dressed up for social media or anything.
So it was kind of this out of the box
thing to do and kind of the only place you

(20:29):
could go to get a custom costume was Trashy laun Day.
Like this was back before they even made like the
leg Avenue costumes in the bag really, so it was
just such a great opportunity to just dress up and
like design a costume that was out of the box.
Oh so much fun. I still got a trashy lingree.
I love it. Yes, I love it there. I'll be

(20:50):
so sad if it ever closes. What's a family business.
And I feel like they've been there so long. I've
been going there since I'm like a teenager in the
same people. Yeah, it's crazy, they're so our pictures are
all over like me, you and just like all the
hot girls and like our outfits. I feel like you
two must have inspired lots of costumes to probably. Yeah,

(21:16):
definitely this is parents. Anytime I hear you say sliving,
I think of your spices in your kitchen. It was
onli your YouTube. That is so cute, my sliving spices.

(21:37):
What is your spirit animal and why? I think my
spirit animal is probably a crow because I feel like
they always show up when I have some kind of
question in my life and it always seems like a sign.
And there's always like crows around my house and I
just love like they're kind of creepy Halloween vibe, that

(21:59):
Halloween really grows crows. The first person to say crows
like everybody else's like, I feel like dog or dolphin,
Paris's unicorn, which makes perfect sense. Yes, yeah, crows is
a good. Crow is such a weird spirit and it
would it makes so much sense and it's fantastic. Well,

(22:19):
I have my house in l A is like this
old storybook house and it looks like a little witch's
cottage and there's always crows around it, and I just
think it's like the perfect compliment to that house. It's
like that little Halloween vibe. That's great. I love Halloween. Okay, Next,
let's live is mhm. What is the worst date that

(22:40):
you've ever been on? And why? The worst date? I
think probably the most embarrassing date I've ever been on.
Was like twelve years ago or something. I was in
l A. And we were like out at a dinner
somewhere and I'd had too much to drink and we
were driving somewhere and I had to make the guy
pull over a second puke out the side of the car.
Are like, that's just brutal, my worst one. Never a

(23:05):
fun date moment when you have to throw up in
front of them, it's embarrassing. Yeah, that was, you know,
I never went back. Are you single? Are you dating now?
Are you? And? Really? Yeah, I have a boyfriend I've
had for three years now. Oh nice, So you guys
going on cute dates still or is it? Yeah? No,
we go on cute dates. I mean especially since you
know COVID, We like weren't going anywhere for so long,

(23:28):
so now even just going out to eat feels so novel. Still,
that's great. It's so weird how the pandemic just like
changed everything so much. I know so much. But I
love being home too now it's nice, especially if someone
to spend it with you, like, oh absolutely, Um okay,

(23:52):
what is the craziest rumor that you've ever heard about yourself?
That I'm an MK ultra beta slave. I've heard that
about me. They thought about me too, Like what does
that even mean? They keep saying like you're m Kaldram,
Like what is that? On my Twitter? Supply the c
i A was like doing these mind control and experiments
on people so they could you know, kind of like

(24:14):
a Manchurian candidate, so they could control people to do so.
And then they have like the sex kitten version of that,
which is like the beta slave. I just took like
a TikTok reacting to some weird videos somebody made about it.
I'm like, who even made the thing? And yeah, they
say you're one to parents, yes, programming, and I want

(24:35):
to be an m kale tra beta slave. I feel
like I'm the only one missing out then are I
think it's just girls. I could be wrong, though. If
you guys are what m kale tre beta slaves are,
more of them, Let's fill the world with him. Oh
my god. Okay, Next is do you believe in ghosts? Have?

(25:00):
Absolutely no. I live in a haunted house. I'm obsessed
with ghosts and anything haunted. Like anytime I travel, I
always want to go to the haunted places or stay
in the haunted hotel. When you live in a haunted house,
I do. I haven't had a lot of activity lately,
but during the pandemic it was really bad. Like I
would be asleep and my door would be like latch

(25:20):
shut and it would bang open in the middle of
the night. Or I always keep all my doors locked,
you know. I'm really paranoid about like home security and everything.
So I'll have like two dead bolts, and then I'll
leave the room and come back and the door is
like undead bolted from the inside open, and I'm all
like home, or like I'll have somebody come behind somebody,
or I'll like have a voice come behind me when
I'm like sitting here in my kitchen and I'll like,

(25:41):
here's somebody, go hello. And it is the scariest thing
because I always I don't think it's a ghost right away.
I always think it's like a home invader, and I'm
like the funk out of somebody get in. And I
always feel like I'm gonna have to fight for my
life if somebody gets into my house. So that's immediately
the mode I go into. So anytime something like that happens,
and luckily it hasn't had been in like the last year.
So but my adrenaline is just wrecked for the rest

(26:04):
of the day, Like I can't come down off of it.
Oh my god, that terrifying. It's so crazy. Do you
know who it is? Like, did you see the history
of your house, like someone who died there or something,
or just like a ghost that's obsessed with you, that
just like followed you home. I can't really pinpoint like
who the ghost actually is, but they have done research
into like the history of my house and who it

(26:24):
possibly could be, like maybe a previous owner or something. Um,
they did an episode of Ghost Adventures on it, so
they kind of like went in depth and like did
some experiments and like saw some weird stuff on camera
and got some weird like e VP voice recording Ghost Adventures. Yeah,
it's my boyfriend's show Wears on Discovery Plus. Okay, I'm

(26:49):
watching that episode. That sounds I hope they interviewed the crows.
I feel like the crows would know. I know, I wish,
I wish I could talk to a crow. Um, who's
your childhood celebrity crush and your current celebrity crush? You
know what my childhood celebrity crush the very first one

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is so embarrassing. It was Peewee Herman. No idea why.
I just remember being super little and like watching Peewee's playhouse,
and I think I just thought that like everything he
had going on and like his playhouse was so cool.
And I've noticed too even as an adult, like I'm
really only attracted to like guys who like create their
own worlds and like kind of have their own like

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thing going on. And I think that was inspired by
Peewee current celebrity crush. I don't know, I only like
my boyfriend, So I'm just gonna like lead the fifth
except I think the Mandalorian is kind of hot. The Mandalorian,
like the character with the mask on. Yeah, you like
him with the mask on, not the actor now. I

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mean the actor is cute too, but like I like
the Mandalorian character because he's like very mysterious and like
self sufficient and tough, and he always like he has
baby Yoda, so cute. So he's a good father figure
as well. That's that's such a safe answer with a
fictional character. Moving forward, when people ask you, you can
just say, like bugs, Bunny or whoever's fictional. I always

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say I'm like my boyfriend my husband now. But I
always said that answer because they get mad if they
hear it. They're like, oh thanks. And then if you're
ever in the room with that person you said that
you think it's hot, and you're like you cannot talk
to them, you cannot look at them. Oh god, it's
so funny. Um, what is your life slogan? My life slogan?

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I don't really have a slogan, but I wrote because
I love ghosts and stuff in my Instagram bios this
future ghost I think of myself like coming back and
haunting people, or like being a spirit guide. That's cute,
that's great, I like it. Yeah, do you think you'll
be a nice ghost or like you're gonna haunt some
of the people that harmed you? No, I think I

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would be. I think I would haunt people who are
interested in the paranormal and just kind of have fun
with them and kind of give them what they're looking for.
I think it'd be funny if if your boyfriend was
doing his show and you were hit the ghost and
the work was just like why is this ghost so hot?
This ghost? I just feel like it's a smoke show. No,

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if I were like to die young or something, I
would totally haunt him, like he wouldn't never have a
moment's piece, like she's in every single episode. Now, Oh
my god, it's um. I think last last slive is um.

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Let's see, what's the perfect date for you? The perfect
date I think would be just like exploring, like just
an interesting like abandoned play to find us. No. I
love exploring, like abandoned, weird, creepy places. Like one of

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my favorite places in l A Is the old zoo
at Griffith Park. I bet when I was little, what
is it Like it's abandoned, there's it's not it's not
the zoo now. It's like they used to have a
zoo like back in like the nineteen twenties there, and
it's it's kind of sacks, Like the cages are really
small and stuff. I've never been there, abandoned and creepy

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and like thinking of San Diego Zoo. Okay, I've been there,
so this is like just a place you go and
it's all empty cages. Yeah, it's just um, it's in
Griffith Park, so it's just um. You can like hike
around there or there's like a kid's play area kind
of nearby, and there's like a lot of graffiti and stuff,

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and I love that look. I think it's really pretty.
So yeah, it's just like a creepy vibe and that's
what they do. Have you ever been on the Haunted
hay Ride. Yes, I love that they go by there
like they deck it out for Halloween, like they go
through the to you and stuff. Got it? Okay, Well,
I hope your boyfriend of three years is listening to
this and has an idea for whatever your your boy's

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birthdays are coming up? Right, your children's birthdays? Yeah, my
son's birthday is actually in a couple week, so great,
Haunted Zoo right here we come, right, yes, Well, thank
you so much for talking to us, Holly, thanks for
having me. This is fun. Thank you. Looks so beautiful, Barbie,

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thank you gorgeous. I'm so happy again. If you guys
want to read Holly's book, do it. It is so
interesting and fantastic and I'm really looking forward to seeing
the series when it comes out. Thank you. I'm excited
about it too. Yeah. Well, enjoy the rest of your day,
and then you guys listening, make sure to head to
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