April 4, 2022 • 41 mins
Nikki and Brie Bella join Paris. They are jumping into the ring and talking sister rivalries, Nikki’s fiancé teaching Paris how to dance, having babies and being ballers in business!!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is Paris. Hey everyone, So today we have Nikki
and Bribella. Hi girls. Hey, this is my favorite episode
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so far and it hasn't even started. I just want
to start this off by saying, I think, Nikki, where
were you talking recently about going to uh modesto to
see Artem perform or something? Because that is the cutest
story I've ever heard. I know you just told on
your podcast, but Paris is going through the whole Paris
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and Love experience right now, which is the show as
well as I think her actual life. It's pretty close
to reality right now. Um, can you just tell this
story because I think it's such a cute example of
being a mom and being a really really great wife.
Oh you're not a wife yet, all right. So Artem
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just did his Dancing with the Stars tour and I
felt really bad because they had a show in Santa
Rosa that was like about an hour away from where
we live in Wine Country, and I couldn't make it
because we're really strict. Briane myself were very strict with
nap times and bedtimes with the babies and her little girl,
and we just really like to stay on routine, and
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Artem it feels the same way. And he was having
his last show of the tour that has been going
on since December, and I felt really bad that I
hadn't made a show yet, and I hadn't you know,
supported him in that way. And I knew that he
had this dream of like Mateo being there, our son
and having him on stage. But Artem is so sweet.
He's totally like, I know it doesn't work, so it's fine,
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you know, he'll he'll never complain about it. So I
was like, Okay, it's a two o'clock show, it's two
hours away. I'm just gonna like surprise him. So literally,
when Mateo wakes up that morning, I pack up the
car and I'm like, we're just gonna go drive. So
we drive, and it was cute because I really wanted
to try to like surprise him, surprise him like where
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we just run right into him, and I was trying
to get like hints of where he was at, and
it's like coffee and tea spot. I'm like, Okay, I
mean there could be a gazillion but then it's somedesto.
It's a small town, sure enough. Like right when I'm
about to make a right I almost actually hit him
in a crosswalk. And then he has a no face,
and Glab has a no face. Sounds about right, and
I have a no face. And then it was cute
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because I rolled down the window and he ran over
to Mateo and the Mateo was so shocked to see
his dad. And I was telling my sister was really
weird because it kind of gave me the feeling of
like when you get proposed to, you know how you
have that nervous feeling like you're kind of shaking and
you're like, why am I shaking? Like I've known this
person for a long time, And I got that same
like feeling when I surprised him. But then it was
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so cute because we just um, he loved the show.
Mateo loved the show. Oh my god. He loved seeing
the women dance, like especially when they did the sexy dance.
He just couldn't stop looking at him, and Artem kept
bringing him on stage and and it was really cute,
and I could tell he's still just so he's on
a hun Yeah, oh that's so cute. My husband and
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I love your fiance. He actually taught us our first
dance for our wedding and he was just so sweet
and such like a nice person and so talented, and
tell him thank you for teaching us, because I'm like
the worst dancer in the world. I will No, I
loved that. I remember when he told me, and I
was like, because I love Andrew Michelle too, because Brie
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and I have worked with Andrew Michelle for a really
long time. And I remember when they reached out to
Artem and then Ardem had so much fun and he
loved you and your husband. And isn't he just such
a good teacher? He really is, Like, yeah, just such
an amazing dance Now. Was he strict at all? Because
sometimes I feel like he can get that real like
curious demeanor when he's teaching and you're like, okay, I'm
(04:02):
not Yeah, it's like, you know, you're afraid to almost
mess up. Was he like that with you guys? No,
he wasn't strict. He was pretty chill. Yeah. Who is
a better dancer out of the two of you? You
are a carter Um Probably Carter because he like did
that flash dance at the wedding as well, and he's like,
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actually he did more dance lessons for that than that
we did for our first wedding dance because my schedule
was out of control, so we literally had only one
like rehearsal for the wedding dance, when usually I heard
the couples do it like ten times or something. Were
you so nervous to do that? Yes? I was freaking out.
But I wore the perfect dress that looked like a
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Cinderella dress, so it was like so like long and
like princessy that I was like, if I'd just spin
around and like look pretty, be fine. So that was
really helpful. I feel like I'm gonna have like there's
going to be such a high expectation for my first
dance because of artem that they're gonna like expect, you know,
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some world Championship style dance and this waltz that's going
to be unreal, and I'm gonna be like, oh my gosh,
but be honest, you're gonna expect that from yourself? Well,
I mean, yeah, I'm gonna try. Yeah, perfectionists, I'm definitely not.
I feel like I'm kind of like my sister is,
which is you know, the interesting thing about being twins
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is um even though we're identical twins, we come from
one egg. We couldn't be more different, but yet we're
best friends. It's isn't it weird how she always says
the one egg thing. I mean, she'll always say come
from the same egg, but you know what it is,
I guess because of science and stuff. I'm always fascinated
when I look at an egg and I'm like, WHOA,
Like Nicole and I were that egg that's split. That's
like weird to me when I think about it and
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I look at us. It's a perfect example of you
guys being split from wegg being totally different. Is one
of you like saying one egg and the other ones
like why are you saying one egg? Like grossed out?
But we're like Night and Day. So it's really funny
because she's definitely the perfectionist and I'm just so easy going.
I'm just kind of like whatever happens happens, and if
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it doesn't go well, then you know I tried or
you know what, Oh well, yeah, totally. It's like my
sister and I were not twins, but it's like I
feel like we are in certain ways, but we're complete opposites.
Like I would be Night and Nikki would be Day. Yeah,
because I'm a night owl, so like, yeah, like I'm
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more of a nighttime person and Nikki's more Yeah day Um,
but yeah, I always wished that I had an identical twin.
I think that would be so much fun. Oh it's
so fun it is. I wouldn't want it any other way. Yeah,
I mean you kind of were just born to have
a best friend. I mean, you know, it's crazy when
you think about Nicole and I. We never experienced the
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first day of school loan. We never went to school
parties alone, Like, we really didn't do anything. We always
had each other's support, and I think it's what made
a strong and confident at a young age because we
always just had each other. And I mean, look at
we were a tag team in w W. We do
business together. I think we're just a tag team in
life in general, Like we go walking with our kids
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every day, but um, we we always feel blessed. Now.
The one interesting thing is that we don't know what
it's like to be individual. So sometimes like when we
talk to people, were like, you know, we've never experienced
just being known as one. We're always known as the twins,
the girls, and and kind of always looked at his
one so It's kind of interesting for us because we're
always like, sometimes you and I will be like, I
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wonder would be like if we weren't a twin. Yeah,
you know, I don't want to imagine that there do I?
And but I'm saying like, you know, because we're used
to sharing everything, the at tension, all of it. Was
there ever that moment where you guys were like, I
wish I didn't have a twin, like when you were
an angsty teenager. Was there that moment for you? Well?
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My mom said I would always say when I was young,
like I would always I get mad. I'd be like,
I don't want to be twin anymore, and um and
so but anytime I think you know sibling spite and
I think like anyone, you're always like I wish you
weren't my sibling, or I wish you weren't my twin.
But I don't know pars for you ever like that
with Nikki, I couldn't imagine not having my sister. That's
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why when I have kids one day, I definitely want
to have at least like two girls, because I just
can't imagine. I don't know. My sister is my best
friend and I tell her everything, and there's no one
I'm closer with, and I just don't. I think it'd
be so hard to not have that in my life
because she's like part of me. Yeah see, and I
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do agree with that, Like, do you ever speak like
that about me, by the way, because yes, I would
like that. Yes, when I'm praying, I'm very vocal like
about that with you, which is why I do. Okay,
do you guys hug Like? Are you guys comfortable hugging
each other? My sister and I out Brie and I
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are you guys were so awkward? We're like the side
huggers only with each other. Everyone else we get and
we hug everyone. I mean, Hunter, I probably right when
I met you at the Nickeloding thing, I probably walked
up and hugged you like I hugged everyone. But when
it comes to her and I, we never do like
a big hug. We're always like from the side, like awkward,
which is weird. It's so weird. It's as if we
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had a one night stand and like, you you know
that awkwardness you have with someone when you see him again,
you're like, oh my gosh, you and I get that
awkward when it comes to hugging. Okay, by the way,
I've never thought that. Yeah, I like how you get
weirded out by referencing an egg and then you're like,
it's as if we had a one night stand. That's
the awkwardness. That is so my sister. Yeah, I'm I'm
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one year apart from my brother, and we both have
like face full of beard, and we hugged each other
like full well, like neck on each other's like things,
a joke on each other's traps, just to make the
huggest tightest possible. Yeah, why don't you guys hug each
other when the last time you guys did a too
arm hug for each other maybe in the wrestling ring
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when we were no we did one recently when I
got good radiance for a g T extreme that gave
me a big hug, and I remember thinking in my head, Wow,
that's the first time I think she's given me a
big hug in years. Wow I didn't. Yeah, yeah, you
need to hug more. I know what's wrong. We need
to go to a therapist and figure there's might know
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a few Yeah, I think our audience probably a lot
of people listening with their siblings I think Nicki and
Paris are obviously like a shining example of siblings were
best friends and so were you too. But there's so
many people where no matter how close you are, there's
still this like weird thing that keeps you from like
treating the other person maybe like you want to, like
the love you want to show for them. You're like, yeah,
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you're my brother, so I'm not gonna say that or
do that thing, but I do love you that much,
and yeah, that's that like unconditional level. You know. It
was weird because like I have one kid and Brie
has too, and I always get asked like, are you
going to have another baby? And Bree, what was it
some one time someone said, you, you don't need to
have another one because you're either gonna give Bertie her
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best friend for life for her enemy for life. Right, No,
because I was trying to Wow, maybe I'll stick with one. Yeah,
I was trying to have a second kid for and
I only had been trying like eight or ten months,
and so I went to a fertility doctor just talk
about some stuff like you know, the first one was
easy and what's happening with this? But um, He's like,
you really want to bring an enemy in for your child,
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And I'm like, what that's for? Doctor? That yeah? Yeah,
And I kind of was like, oh my gosh, She's
like they're going to be compared the rest of their life.
They might not even like each other. I mean, I
got I walked out of there. Sure the doctor didn't
like hit their job, maybe, but I actually did walk
out of there thinking I guess I am good with one, right, remember,
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And then then I don't know, six months later, I
got pregnant without knowing, but like, yeah, it was really weird.
But I'm like, does Nicole look at me as her enemy? Yeah?
This is Paris. Did you guys ever fight when you
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were teenagers? Like, did you guys have like the same
taste and guys and then like you'd fight over them
or are you guys like like opposite guys? So we
loved opposite guys. I was into the skater boys, musicians.
She was into the jocks. Anyone we dated. It was
like you and like we're so in love, Like we're
definitely the girls who love hard and fall hard and
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love quickly. But um, we would fight. I mean honestly,
when I look at our childhood, I'm like we were
wrestlers in the making normal for I know, people who
witnessed us fighting or heard about us fighting, they were like,
that's yeah, that's aggressive, that's not normal. So we grew
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up in an aggressive household, so I think that's why.
I mean we She hit me with a brush so
hard on my cheek it's snapped in half, a wooden
brush almost. Yeah, broke my cheekbone. All right, let's not
bring up my let's bring up yours too. I never forget. Yeah,
I had like a golf ball, Like my cheek was
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so swollen, like golf ball was hanging off. Um. Yeah,
did you learn a lesson from that at all? I
don't know. I could wait for the next fight. I
was like, oh, she thinks this is the end of it,
literally fighting. Yeah, we kind of have loved the fighting
since we've been young. Yeah, but there was definitely remember
the time when we were in gosh, probably like maybe
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got out of college and when we were in our
late um where I remember we're it all kind of
just stopped for you and I and I was like, wow,
we matured. I'm like fine, like we can have a
decent conversation. I feel like it was twenty, like around
twenty five or older when we stopped physically fighting each other. No,
it was definitely before that. Okay, maybe like twenty three. Sorry,
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bring off a few years. Honestly, you are. But you
know it's weird because my husband, when we started dating,
I thought it was very normal how my sister and
I would act with each other and how we'd speak
to each other when we got mad. And he was
very quick to let me know that's not normal, Like,
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you guys literally chop each other's heads off and say
the meanest things, and then five minutes later, you guys
are asking each other to get a cup of coffee.
He's like, I'm so confused how you guys run life together?
Because his family they're all so nice to each other,
and like if they want to diss each other, they
keep it in their head. They don't ever say it
out loud, but we hear. And I realized we had
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to work on that because we were like we hit
Belo the bell. Do you guys do that with your siblings?
Like we Brie and I will hip learned about It's
probably like, no, we don't know. Why are wrestlers Paris?
Did you ever fight with Nikki like that, like did
you was it more screaming or were you guys pulling hair? Um? Yeah,
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I think every sister like siblings always not always, but
we fight sometimes Like I don't know, I'd like borrow
her clothes and like not tell her and she would
like get so piste off and she like pulled my
hair before, but I don't know. Yeah, me and my
brother were never physical with each other. But also I
had to get better about being like, hey, this is
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how I feel about this, because we were like, don't
say things unless you want to get into a fight,
like don't like because it just led to that, like
two boys really similar in age, it would be and
we were just trained so hard by my parents to
not fight each other. So now we've gotten to an
age where it's like, hey man, this is how it's
making me feel. I feel like we have a super
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healthy relationship now, But it wasn't always the case. Yeahee
of that, and I feel like her and I too,
and I think to her and I became extremely spiritual,
and we also started to realize like how we had to.
We had to understand that we were very different even
though we're twins and we had to respect each other's
opinions and ideas because sometimes we'll get one has an
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idea and the other one would quickly be like no, no, no, no,
like this or something, even though you're not meaning that,
because we do all the majority of all our businesses
are together inside outside of the ring, and so that's
we had to really start to learn like, okay, let
each other speak, let each other share that back to
each other. Like we really had to teach ourselves that
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in our later twenties, which is a little embarrassing, but
you know, any time any age, you should be able
to start to change or transition some way, and we did,
and it did make us have a health there and
more successful relationship in business and in the ring everything,
because there's times we get in fights and arguments out
in the ring, like we're literally in a match and
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we could be yelling at each other like I don't know,
if you guys remember Dusty Rhodes. He was this icon
wrestler and he would always be like the damn Bella twins.
They might be super close, but it seems like they
hate each other, and we're like, gosh, if people can
notice that that's not a good thing, Like, so, how
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did that all happen? So it was crazy because ww
was on a search for female wrestlers and I saw that,
and you know, we didn't watch wrestling growing up, but
my sister and I worked at Hooters right when we
turned eighteen because we're like, listen, we need to make
some money and Hooters is a spot, and so we
became Hooter Girls. And they would show the w W
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pay per views once a month and it'd be like
sold out, and we'd be sitting there and just watching.
And I was really impressed about the way wrestling would
tell a story with athletics, so it was like they're
being physical, but then they're these larger than life characters.
I'm like, well, this is like adult playtime. This is
really cool. So when I saw a couple of years
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later that they were on the search, I was like, Nicole,
this is for us. We're soccer players. Growing up, we
always thought we were the Spice girls and with lip
sync for all our families boxing parties. I'm like you,
and I love entertainment and athletics. I think WWS are calling.
I mean, that's crazy right to think that, And sure
enough we went there. They weren't looking for twins. They
never had twins at all. No, no, no, but but
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so we go. Bree tells me about this and I'm
like okay, And I was about to go play pro
soccer in Italy so at this point, because the women's
league here in the US had just folded, and so
I was like, okay, so I'm not playing here. And
my college coach was trying to get me to Italy
because Brie and I are half Mexican half Italian, and
he's like, we could you know, do great things with
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you there. I think you'd be great there. So she
brings wrestling to me and I'm like wrestling and stuff
we'd watch at Hooters. I'm like, no way, Like I
just remember certain things I saw, and she's like, just
go watch Monday Night Raw. So I remember watching and
then I just, like Bree said, I fell in love
with the athleticism and the character work. But then we
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show up for what she tells me is to try out.
So Brie and I had think, okay, we're going to
go fight people like that must be how you try
out for this. So we have our jeans and our
tank tops on. We weren't even I don't think we're
in makeup now. Our hair was still like wet and Ponies.
It was awful. So we walk up and people are
like go go outfits, and I just remember looking at
Bally like what did you get me into? What did
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I just leave soccer for? And then like we get
on stage and I just start getting diss like will
you would you ever get fake boobs? Um? You need
to change this about yourself, like and I just remember
thinking like what that Actually we started to like go
at it for real with the people, which they liked, right,
that's in their industry called cutting promos. I was like,
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well look at you, like yeah, all this and game over.
Then we ended up falling in love once we got
first into the ring. Yeah, And you know it was
crazy because we started we went to McDonagh, Georgia, and
then we went to Tampa, Florida before we went to television.
But it was really like love at first sight for
Nicole and I and our whole family bump bump at
first sight. Yeah, but our whole family. When we told
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him We're like, so we're going to move to Tampa,
Florida to become professional wrestlers. Our whole family was like
what And we packed up our car and drove across
country and we were making peanuts weekly and just the
grind was really really hard and you didn't even know
if you were going to make it. And when we
got the call that they wanted us to debut on
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SmackDown on Friday Night's SmackDown, we were just like WHOA, Like,
we're gonna maybe hit this big and then from there
the rest history. It's like our brand, we just kept growing.
The first identical or first twin girls to be in
w W E to have her debut, and then quickly
my sister and I just started to understand how to
brand ourselves and how that Vince kind of gives you
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the keys to the truck, but you got to drive
the truck. We started to quickly realize, like, you've got
to really move and push this yourself. And so her
and Night were quickly like on it to brainstorm and
start to really create our brand with w W Wow
was it? Uh? The fandom is intense. I got to
imagine as twin, the first twins females stunning and also
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just remarkably good. The fandom must have been so intense.
You were some of that, you were the most famous
people in the entire organization for a very long time.
Is that a lot to handle? Like, how do you
deal with that level of fame? Because I know Paris
Is obviously dealt with a lot of fame, but she's
not subjecting herself to stadiums night after night of these
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people who are you know, trying to like grab you
on the way in to to tell you how much
they love you. Yeah, I mean it was crazy. I'll
never forget when we were in London, Nicole and I
wanted to be tourist around the London Bridge and all
of a sudden, everyone was like freaking out the Belots
but Belotowins and we're like what, Like, we're wrestlers and
like we So it was weird to like have that
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moment where you're like whoa, Like we've made it. And
then from there I think what was crazy is with wrestling,
we're on the road, especially at our time, we were
on the road five nights a week and there's no
off season so years. So next you know, you're five
years in and you're like, oh, I should probably like
go see my family or do something. And you know,
we did it over a decade and so for her
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and I, the grind is so hard and you were
going too hard, so sometimes you didn't even realize it
because you weren't taking a breath. You weren't like just
standing still and being like WHOA yeah, But I mean
I think now. And you know, Paris, We've always been
in awe of you because one how you built a
brand and you were able to brand yourself like before
social media, and you did it so naturally and organically,
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and that's one thing. You know, we have a lot
of females that come to us and ask us like,
you know, how how did you build the brand that
you have? And Brian and I always say, like, it
has to be organic and authentic, and you, Brine and
I always would talk about you um within each other
when we build stuff, because you did it so organic
and you branded these things that were just a part
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of you and and what you've created your empires absolutely amazing.
And then on top of it, how you've handled yourself
in the spotlight because Brie and I but we realized
and you were the first of this, when you're the
first woman to pave the road in something and to
break barriers and to create something that one the men
aren't ready for. When you're a force to be reckoned
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with you, you just get the hate. And Brie and
I we wanted more for the women, and we really
fought hard for that. Like women deserve more time on TV,
we deserve better matches, better storylines, we deserve to be
equal to the men. Because Brine and I were at
the forefront of that, we get a lot of hate
as well, because how dare them stuck up for women
and fight for women and want better? And you were
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at the forefront of, you know, women being creating a
brand of what men were pretty much only doing at
that time, And so it does. It can be hard
because sometimes I feel like even though you have this
shield and you can deal with all this hate, it
it does get exhausting and always getting dragged and trolled.
And but then it's like we have this bella army
that I feel like it's brought in so much light
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to us. And then I start to hear all the
stories of everyone I've helped or have inspired and empowered
and it's crazy how when you let more of that
light in, how much it can kill the darkness um
Because when you do have a brand worldwide. You know,
you we don't just hear it from California, you hear
it from everywhere. And you have those moments that they
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make you want to break and make you want to fall,
But then you realize what you do has meaning and
that you are touching so many more people in the
world than they hate, Right, that's always the loudest um
And I think then that's when you're like, this is
how I can overcome it. And you know, I know, Pairs,
you've been through so much and you've touched so many
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people and bring eye with our stuff, and it's just
it's I think that it's those people, right that keep
you going, the people that you inspire motivate. Yeah, I
love that thinking about that, like letting all the light
in and that will take away the darkness because it
is hard, you know, growing up in this industry and
especially you know, especially like early two thousand's before people
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were being held accountable for what they said, like women
were just treated so unfairly. And um, I love that
times are changing now me too. Finally, honestly, it's so crazy.
It's crazy to think like you know, at the time
you had to just like it was like, Okay, I
just have to how how do I smile this off?
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Like I'm not allowed to say anything. I just have
to smile it off, sit and look pretty and not
look affected. And I'm just so happy that we're beyond
that that I can actually put on a bitch face
and actually tell you how it is. No, you can't
do that. You can't say that, this is Paris, this
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is seven next living questions, Are you girls ready? Yes? Okay?
What is your spirit animal? And why? Oh? Okay? So
mine would definitely be a wolf? She wolf? Um, I
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just love how wolves are mysterious but powerful, and there's
something spiritual to them, and it's like they have such
a presence no matter what when they walk up to something,
it's like you just feel like they have meaning, that
there's some purpose or something to them. And so that
would be my my spirit animals, that's that that mysterious
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strength they have. And I would say mine would be
a bear, because bear a bear, They're courageous and I've
always called myself a mama bear. I feel like I'm
a protector and um, so like if I could have
the strength incur edge of a bear, that's my spirit animal.
I like it all right. Next, what's the craziest rumor
(27:08):
that you've ever heard about yourself? Oh, I'll let you
go first, Nicole, because you get a lot. What would
be the craziest Um. I feel like there's so many
crazy ones. I know, I can't even think right now
trying to think. You know, well, I'll never forget this
(27:29):
one that there was like, um, you know when, like
a lot of times on the internet, I felt like
the first time because my grandmother on never forget getting
this call. It would be like rebell and nude pics
and like then you click it and there's nothing. It's
like me like just in my wrestling gear or whatever,
and I'll never forget the phone call I got. My
grandmother's like, so my cleaning lady told me you have
(27:49):
nude picks on the internet and I was like what,
And then of course it goes to my aunts and everyone.
I'm like wait a second. I'm like no, I'm like,
just click the link. It's my wrestling gear. But I
remember that's that was one where I like to have
to talk to my grandmother about it. I'm like, really
got like you write you know what? I guess for
me when I was going through a very public breakup
(28:10):
and everyone thought that I would It was um that
we were lying for ratings for our show coming out,
and I remember that was everyone. I was like over
here with like a broken heart, like, oh my god,
media is so ruthless, Like why would I lie about
that for ratings? So I remember when that whole thing
went down, that was like the craziest and I remember
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like some wrestlers went on podcasts and talked about it,
like how is lying? So maybe that one. Yeah, kind
of vultuary. A lot of the media and stuff where
they just wait until there's some little vulnerability, true or not,
and they just pack and peck and peck. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
click bait. Yes, people the media don't want to talk
(28:53):
about nice, positive things. They like only to talk about
bad things and be mean. But that's just how they are,
like bait. Yeah, Okay, do you believe in ghosts? Yes, yes,
we've seen ghosts. And I also feel like I can
smell it, like I can walk into a place and
(29:14):
know it's they totally have a smell, like there's yeah,
what's the smell. The smell it's like it's what I
think you would consider old and moldy like, but there's
something to it. There's like a tan to it. It's
like you're just describing like every old creepy house you know,
I guaranteed, but it's like more than that, and there's
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you get goose bumps, and there's a thickness to do
you just know you're not alone. Maybe like the smell
is a chilled thickness. Yeah, yeah, it's it's weird as
opposed to saying anything that smells like it's made before,
you know. I guess, good point, more chance for there
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to be ghosts if it's been around for multiple generations.
They don't want to let go. Sage. Your house is
like when you you do Paris to you, Sage, I
need to do that. I actually did it once like
years ago. My friend is like a Sharman Sean what
is so female charman called Sharman or Sharmon Sharman Umman
(30:23):
came over and she did it like years ago. But
I need to do it again. So thanks for reminding me. Yeah,
I love it. I believe it. Oh yeah, I saged
the time. Yeah, we sage a lot. It was funny
because my son one time in bed, you know, babies
they'll just sometimes wake up a new little baby talk.
And but Mateo got up and he was like crying,
(30:44):
but he was like putting his arm out and like
if he was touching something. And I'm in my I'm
like there's a ghost or something. I thought there was something.
I literally ran and got sage and I want to
stage and everything, like please go, he's going. I was
so scared and he was just probably like doing it
in his sleep, but I was, man, so I like,
literally I feel like stage every like four days. So
it's really funny. So we're neighbors, right, and my husband
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he doesn't believe in any of this kind of stuff.
And he came home and he walked in the house
and he goes, so Nicoles outside stage in her house. Again,
I'm like, it was a full moon. I do it
on everything, yeah, with my meditation music, and her husband
all of a sudden staring at me and I was
doing it and I was like, hey, Brian, and he's like,
(31:29):
the ghosts are just like crossing to the other side
of the street when they passed your house because it
smells like, yeah, I just want to come in. Yeah,
not Mika next sliver, All right, what is your life slogan.
(31:51):
My mom would always say it to me growing up,
but live with no regrets because I felt like I
always it always made me take that leap of faith
and always and you just try things even though if
I failed, I'm like, I have to do it, so
live with no regrets. Yeah, and mine would also be
another mama one. Um, you know your definition of success,
and so you know, for me, success always was happiness.
(32:14):
So whenever I took a job or whatever I did,
as long as that I could get to the point
of happiness, Um, nothing else hadn't mattered. And any job
I go into always trying to define what what is
it that I want out of this? Wow, that's really good. Yeah,
it's helped a lot and mentally it helps a lot. Well,
then I want to ask you guys, what's your definition
(32:36):
of success for this stage of each of your lives,
Like what you're coming into right now. Yeah. You know,
it's interesting because we actually been talking about this because
we do feel like we're going through transition and we're
going into a new chapter of our lives. And I
was kind of like, WHOA, I feel like I can
kind of create what I want my next chapter to
(32:56):
be and you know it's it's along like being happy,
but also more simple, like we say yes to everything,
and I have since I've been in my early twenties.
I'm thirty eight now going to be thirty nine, and
I'm just like, I want to say no more and
i want just like when I look at all my
things that I prioritize and everything, i want that list
to be cut in half. I'm tired of having this
(33:17):
long list. I wanted to be smaller. I want to
be okay with having a really slow morning. I want
almost live like a European, like do things slower right.
You know, they are able to have wine every day
and it doesn't affect them and they just say it
was but down right and mine, Yeah, it's been simple.
(33:42):
And how I can become more private has been this
next chapter in my life because having a son, it's
you know, Brie and I've always been open books and
reality stars and all these things, and now that he's
in this world, it is crazy how my guard has
gone up and everything I do now I think of him,
and I'm like, I need to be more private and
I need to start creating more of a private life
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because I just, you know, fear for him a lot,
and I want him to be as to grow up
as normal as he can UM and let him make
his choices when he gets older and what it is
he wants to do. And so that's kind of been
the next chapter. Paris, what's your definition of success for? Like?
All right, so you just got married. So what would
be your definition of success for the marriage? Three best
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friends and have fun and lift up and support each
other and be the best teammates and kill it and
take the world over together. Put it in the ring.
Let's see Carter and Paris go up against another couple. Actually,
(34:49):
you know it would be cool because I think it
could be like kind of similar story, but like even
take on the McMahon's, like the Hilton's versus the McMahon's,
like Shane and Stephanie. UM, and get your sister involved.
I've ever been like a manager where she walks out? Yeah,
(35:14):
that would be good. Actually to see your mom in
a segment with Vince, like Vince off without not just
be awesome. I think Kathy and Vince, if they had
one segment together, it would lead to its own reality show,
The Odd Couple. You know it would be so good,
(35:34):
so good. I would love that. You would be great.
Your mom can bring him like on the Housewives and
like just tell all the other women off, Like can
you imagine having Vince McMahon in your corner, like pitting
promos on people, bring him to the dinner parties? Yeah,
I love it's so good. Who's your childhood celebrity crush
(35:59):
and your current celebrity gosh, so mine was definitely in
middle school Ethan hawk Um, great expectations. I'll there forget
when I saw that and I was like, oh my gosh,
she's Ethan hawk Um. And then my one now because
I was a huge Game of Thrones and Drago, I
(36:20):
was like a huge Game of Thrones fans. Yeah, sorry
Thrones fan. So Jason Momoa sometimes I look at him,
I'm like, yeah, that that's a nice man, right there. Funny.
So mine growing up was Anthony Keatis, and yeah, I
still think it's Anthony Keatis. It's funny. I mean it's
(36:43):
rings so true with what you said your types are too,
that Bree has picked the beefiest man in all of Hollywood,
and you picked the skinniest rock star that has ever existed, Right, Yeah,
it is. And actually when we were younger, I like
the skinny rocker ones and she like the beef your jocks,
I'm looking swift. Well, I mean and Anthony to back
(37:05):
in the day, you know, he'd have that long like
Brad Pitt from Legends of the Fall hair, like I
thought it was a very toned body, you know, and
they give it away music video. I just remember actually
being in like fifth grade, very young, like, oh whoa,
I like that, Like that's what I like. That made
me feel. Yeah, I was like, all right, I think
(37:27):
I'm into men. All right, yeah coming a woman is coming. Yeah.
So he's yeah, he's just he's perfect. Great, we'll get
him on the podcast. We'll let him know. Paris Finals
Living question. Okay, which moment in your life would you
(37:48):
like to do over the most? And it could be
for a good reason, like you don't have to want
to change anything. If you don't want to change something,
you can just relive it. So okay, I just want
to rely it because obviously I'm obsessed with my family
and like I could imagine a day without them. But
I lived in New York City for two years when
(38:08):
I turned twenty seven, so I was like twenty seven
to twenty nine a day, one day you get, I know,
one day. So I'm saying that's my time period of
like how I felt. But living in New York during
that time, it was like the most amazing time of
my life, besides having my family. But if I could
go back to that just one day, that era of
(38:29):
my life, that would be really fun. That's a good one.
I was about to say my labor just because to
feel that I want, I know, right, isn't that crazy?
You're just jealous because he came out of my vagina
and yours didn't. I'm not, gosh, what day do I
(38:52):
want to relive? Oh my, there's so many, you know,
I think one day that I would like to re
live is when so we once in like the lifetime
of wrestling so far, we got to have finally an
all women's pay per view and Rhonda Rousing and I
main evented it with Bree as well, and it was
(39:13):
like historic and just what we fought for. And I
remember I was going through a lot mentally at that time,
and like hating to hide it. It was because I
was going through my breakup and so it was just
mentally I was trying to be there so much, and
I feel like it was a very emotional time for me.
So I would love to relive it now of who
(39:34):
I am now and like this clear headspace, because it
was already an epic moment, but I know that inside
I could have I could be even more epic, you
know what I mean? I agree? Yeah, so evolution, I'd
relive it, and i'd beat Rhonda. I wouldn't lose. I'd
actually beat her. Yeah, because I lost. That's unfair. I know. Well,
(39:59):
there's always next time. Now. I just gotta get you
guys out of retirement to to do another main event. Hey,
if the Hiltons show up, then maybe will be there. Great. Well,
speaking of the Hilton's and the Bellas again, everyone go
check out the Bellas podcast because Paris is going over there.
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They're going to continue the conversation and enjoy. Thank you
Gus for talking to us. Yeah, it was fun. Get
better Hunter. Thanks. I'm so sad that it's so apparent
in my voice right now, but yeah, it'll it'll go away.
Thank you, guys, Paris, fantastic questions. I love your slivers
me too. Thank you girls. This is so much fun.
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This is Paris. Hey everyone, So today we have Nikki
and Bribella. Hi girls. Hey, this is my favorite episode
(00:22):
so far and it hasn't even started. I just want
to start this off by saying, I think, Nikki, where
were you talking recently about going to uh modesto to
see Artem perform or something? Because that is the cutest
story I've ever heard. I know you just told on
your podcast, but Paris is going through the whole Paris
(00:43):
and Love experience right now, which is the show as
well as I think her actual life. It's pretty close
to reality right now. Um, can you just tell this
story because I think it's such a cute example of
being a mom and being a really really great wife.
Oh you're not a wife yet, all right. So Artem
(01:10):
just did his Dancing with the Stars tour and I
felt really bad because they had a show in Santa
Rosa that was like about an hour away from where
we live in Wine Country, and I couldn't make it
because we're really strict. Briane myself were very strict with
nap times and bedtimes with the babies and her little girl,
and we just really like to stay on routine, and
(01:30):
Artem it feels the same way. And he was having
his last show of the tour that has been going
on since December, and I felt really bad that I
hadn't made a show yet, and I hadn't you know,
supported him in that way. And I knew that he
had this dream of like Mateo being there, our son
and having him on stage. But Artem is so sweet.
He's totally like, I know it doesn't work, so it's fine,
(01:52):
you know, he'll he'll never complain about it. So I
was like, Okay, it's a two o'clock show, it's two
hours away. I'm just gonna like surprise him. So literally,
when Mateo wakes up that morning, I pack up the
car and I'm like, we're just gonna go drive. So
we drive, and it was cute because I really wanted
to try to like surprise him, surprise him like where
(02:14):
we just run right into him, and I was trying
to get like hints of where he was at, and
it's like coffee and tea spot. I'm like, Okay, I
mean there could be a gazillion but then it's somedesto.
It's a small town, sure enough. Like right when I'm
about to make a right I almost actually hit him
in a crosswalk. And then he has a no face,
and Glab has a no face. Sounds about right, and
I have a no face. And then it was cute
(02:34):
because I rolled down the window and he ran over
to Mateo and the Mateo was so shocked to see
his dad. And I was telling my sister was really
weird because it kind of gave me the feeling of
like when you get proposed to, you know how you
have that nervous feeling like you're kind of shaking and
you're like, why am I shaking? Like I've known this
person for a long time, And I got that same
like feeling when I surprised him. But then it was
(02:56):
so cute because we just um, he loved the show.
Mateo loved the show. Oh my god. He loved seeing
the women dance, like especially when they did the sexy dance.
He just couldn't stop looking at him, and Artem kept
bringing him on stage and and it was really cute,
and I could tell he's still just so he's on
a hun Yeah, oh that's so cute. My husband and
(03:18):
I love your fiance. He actually taught us our first
dance for our wedding and he was just so sweet
and such like a nice person and so talented, and
tell him thank you for teaching us, because I'm like
the worst dancer in the world. I will No, I
loved that. I remember when he told me, and I
was like, because I love Andrew Michelle too, because Brie
(03:40):
and I have worked with Andrew Michelle for a really
long time. And I remember when they reached out to
Artem and then Ardem had so much fun and he
loved you and your husband. And isn't he just such
a good teacher? He really is, Like, yeah, just such
an amazing dance Now. Was he strict at all? Because
sometimes I feel like he can get that real like
curious demeanor when he's teaching and you're like, okay, I'm
(04:02):
not Yeah, it's like, you know, you're afraid to almost
mess up. Was he like that with you guys? No,
he wasn't strict. He was pretty chill. Yeah. Who is
a better dancer out of the two of you? You
are a carter Um Probably Carter because he like did
that flash dance at the wedding as well, and he's like,
(04:23):
actually he did more dance lessons for that than that
we did for our first wedding dance because my schedule
was out of control, so we literally had only one
like rehearsal for the wedding dance, when usually I heard
the couples do it like ten times or something. Were
you so nervous to do that? Yes? I was freaking out.
But I wore the perfect dress that looked like a
(04:45):
Cinderella dress, so it was like so like long and
like princessy that I was like, if I'd just spin
around and like look pretty, be fine. So that was
really helpful. I feel like I'm gonna have like there's
going to be such a high expectation for my first
dance because of artem that they're gonna like expect, you know,
(05:06):
some world Championship style dance and this waltz that's going
to be unreal, and I'm gonna be like, oh my gosh,
but be honest, you're gonna expect that from yourself? Well,
I mean, yeah, I'm gonna try. Yeah, perfectionists, I'm definitely not.
I feel like I'm kind of like my sister is,
which is you know, the interesting thing about being twins
(05:28):
is um even though we're identical twins, we come from
one egg. We couldn't be more different, but yet we're
best friends. It's isn't it weird how she always says
the one egg thing. I mean, she'll always say come
from the same egg, but you know what it is,
I guess because of science and stuff. I'm always fascinated
when I look at an egg and I'm like, WHOA,
Like Nicole and I were that egg that's split. That's
like weird to me when I think about it and
(05:48):
I look at us. It's a perfect example of you
guys being split from wegg being totally different. Is one
of you like saying one egg and the other ones
like why are you saying one egg? Like grossed out?
But we're like Night and Day. So it's really funny
because she's definitely the perfectionist and I'm just so easy going.
I'm just kind of like whatever happens happens, and if
(06:09):
it doesn't go well, then you know I tried or
you know what, Oh well, yeah, totally. It's like my
sister and I were not twins, but it's like I
feel like we are in certain ways, but we're complete opposites.
Like I would be Night and Nikki would be Day. Yeah,
because I'm a night owl, so like, yeah, like I'm
(06:30):
more of a nighttime person and Nikki's more Yeah day Um,
but yeah, I always wished that I had an identical twin.
I think that would be so much fun. Oh it's
so fun it is. I wouldn't want it any other way. Yeah,
I mean you kind of were just born to have
a best friend. I mean, you know, it's crazy when
you think about Nicole and I. We never experienced the
(06:50):
first day of school loan. We never went to school
parties alone, Like, we really didn't do anything. We always
had each other's support, and I think it's what made
a strong and confident at a young age because we
always just had each other. And I mean, look at
we were a tag team in w W. We do
business together. I think we're just a tag team in
life in general, Like we go walking with our kids
(07:12):
every day, but um, we we always feel blessed. Now.
The one interesting thing is that we don't know what
it's like to be individual. So sometimes like when we
talk to people, were like, you know, we've never experienced
just being known as one. We're always known as the twins,
the girls, and and kind of always looked at his
one so It's kind of interesting for us because we're
always like, sometimes you and I will be like, I
(07:34):
wonder would be like if we weren't a twin. Yeah,
you know, I don't want to imagine that there do I?
And but I'm saying like, you know, because we're used
to sharing everything, the at tension, all of it. Was
there ever that moment where you guys were like, I
wish I didn't have a twin, like when you were
an angsty teenager. Was there that moment for you? Well?
(07:56):
My mom said I would always say when I was young,
like I would always I get mad. I'd be like,
I don't want to be twin anymore, and um and
so but anytime I think you know sibling spite and
I think like anyone, you're always like I wish you
weren't my sibling, or I wish you weren't my twin.
But I don't know pars for you ever like that
with Nikki, I couldn't imagine not having my sister. That's
(08:20):
why when I have kids one day, I definitely want
to have at least like two girls, because I just
can't imagine. I don't know. My sister is my best
friend and I tell her everything, and there's no one
I'm closer with, and I just don't. I think it'd
be so hard to not have that in my life
because she's like part of me. Yeah see, and I
(08:40):
do agree with that, Like, do you ever speak like
that about me, by the way, because yes, I would
like that. Yes, when I'm praying, I'm very vocal like
about that with you, which is why I do. Okay,
do you guys hug Like? Are you guys comfortable hugging
each other? My sister and I out Brie and I
(09:02):
are you guys were so awkward? We're like the side
huggers only with each other. Everyone else we get and
we hug everyone. I mean, Hunter, I probably right when
I met you at the Nickeloding thing, I probably walked
up and hugged you like I hugged everyone. But when
it comes to her and I, we never do like
a big hug. We're always like from the side, like awkward,
which is weird. It's so weird. It's as if we
(09:25):
had a one night stand and like, you you know
that awkwardness you have with someone when you see him again,
you're like, oh my gosh, you and I get that
awkward when it comes to hugging. Okay, by the way,
I've never thought that. Yeah, I like how you get
weirded out by referencing an egg and then you're like,
it's as if we had a one night stand. That's
the awkwardness. That is so my sister. Yeah, I'm I'm
(09:48):
one year apart from my brother, and we both have
like face full of beard, and we hugged each other
like full well, like neck on each other's like things,
a joke on each other's traps, just to make the
huggest tightest possible. Yeah, why don't you guys hug each
other when the last time you guys did a too
arm hug for each other maybe in the wrestling ring
(10:09):
when we were no we did one recently when I
got good radiance for a g T extreme that gave
me a big hug, and I remember thinking in my head, Wow,
that's the first time I think she's given me a
big hug in years. Wow I didn't. Yeah, yeah, you
need to hug more. I know what's wrong. We need
to go to a therapist and figure there's might know
(10:32):
a few Yeah, I think our audience probably a lot
of people listening with their siblings I think Nicki and
Paris are obviously like a shining example of siblings were
best friends and so were you too. But there's so
many people where no matter how close you are, there's
still this like weird thing that keeps you from like
treating the other person maybe like you want to, like
the love you want to show for them. You're like, yeah,
(10:54):
you're my brother, so I'm not gonna say that or
do that thing, but I do love you that much,
and yeah, that's that like unconditional level. You know. It
was weird because like I have one kid and Brie
has too, and I always get asked like, are you
going to have another baby? And Bree, what was it
some one time someone said, you, you don't need to
have another one because you're either gonna give Bertie her
(11:16):
best friend for life for her enemy for life. Right, No,
because I was trying to Wow, maybe I'll stick with one. Yeah,
I was trying to have a second kid for and
I only had been trying like eight or ten months,
and so I went to a fertility doctor just talk
about some stuff like you know, the first one was
easy and what's happening with this? But um, He's like,
you really want to bring an enemy in for your child,
(11:37):
And I'm like, what that's for? Doctor? That yeah? Yeah,
And I kind of was like, oh my gosh, She's
like they're going to be compared the rest of their life.
They might not even like each other. I mean, I
got I walked out of there. Sure the doctor didn't
like hit their job, maybe, but I actually did walk
out of there thinking I guess I am good with one, right, remember,
(11:59):
And then then I don't know, six months later, I
got pregnant without knowing, but like, yeah, it was really weird.
But I'm like, does Nicole look at me as her enemy? Yeah?
This is Paris. Did you guys ever fight when you
(12:21):
were teenagers? Like, did you guys have like the same
taste and guys and then like you'd fight over them
or are you guys like like opposite guys? So we
loved opposite guys. I was into the skater boys, musicians.
She was into the jocks. Anyone we dated. It was
like you and like we're so in love, Like we're
definitely the girls who love hard and fall hard and
(12:43):
love quickly. But um, we would fight. I mean honestly,
when I look at our childhood, I'm like we were
wrestlers in the making normal for I know, people who
witnessed us fighting or heard about us fighting, they were like,
that's yeah, that's aggressive, that's not normal. So we grew
(13:04):
up in an aggressive household, so I think that's why.
I mean we She hit me with a brush so
hard on my cheek it's snapped in half, a wooden
brush almost. Yeah, broke my cheekbone. All right, let's not
bring up my let's bring up yours too. I never forget. Yeah,
I had like a golf ball, Like my cheek was
(13:26):
so swollen, like golf ball was hanging off. Um. Yeah,
did you learn a lesson from that at all? I
don't know. I could wait for the next fight. I
was like, oh, she thinks this is the end of it,
literally fighting. Yeah, we kind of have loved the fighting
since we've been young. Yeah, but there was definitely remember
the time when we were in gosh, probably like maybe
(13:49):
got out of college and when we were in our
late um where I remember we're it all kind of
just stopped for you and I and I was like, wow,
we matured. I'm like fine, like we can have a
decent conversation. I feel like it was twenty, like around
twenty five or older when we stopped physically fighting each other. No,
it was definitely before that. Okay, maybe like twenty three. Sorry,
(14:11):
bring off a few years. Honestly, you are. But you
know it's weird because my husband, when we started dating,
I thought it was very normal how my sister and
I would act with each other and how we'd speak
to each other when we got mad. And he was
very quick to let me know that's not normal, Like,
(14:32):
you guys literally chop each other's heads off and say
the meanest things, and then five minutes later, you guys
are asking each other to get a cup of coffee.
He's like, I'm so confused how you guys run life together?
Because his family they're all so nice to each other,
and like if they want to diss each other, they
keep it in their head. They don't ever say it
out loud, but we hear. And I realized we had
(14:54):
to work on that because we were like we hit
Belo the bell. Do you guys do that with your siblings?
Like we Brie and I will hip learned about It's
probably like, no, we don't know. Why are wrestlers Paris?
Did you ever fight with Nikki like that, like did
you was it more screaming or were you guys pulling hair? Um? Yeah,
(15:14):
I think every sister like siblings always not always, but
we fight sometimes Like I don't know, I'd like borrow
her clothes and like not tell her and she would
like get so piste off and she like pulled my
hair before, but I don't know. Yeah, me and my
brother were never physical with each other. But also I
had to get better about being like, hey, this is
(15:35):
how I feel about this, because we were like, don't
say things unless you want to get into a fight,
like don't like because it just led to that, like
two boys really similar in age, it would be and
we were just trained so hard by my parents to
not fight each other. So now we've gotten to an
age where it's like, hey man, this is how it's
making me feel. I feel like we have a super
(15:56):
healthy relationship now, But it wasn't always the case. Yeahee
of that, and I feel like her and I too,
and I think to her and I became extremely spiritual,
and we also started to realize like how we had to.
We had to understand that we were very different even
though we're twins and we had to respect each other's
opinions and ideas because sometimes we'll get one has an
(16:17):
idea and the other one would quickly be like no, no, no, no,
like this or something, even though you're not meaning that,
because we do all the majority of all our businesses
are together inside outside of the ring, and so that's
we had to really start to learn like, okay, let
each other speak, let each other share that back to
each other. Like we really had to teach ourselves that
(16:37):
in our later twenties, which is a little embarrassing, but
you know, any time any age, you should be able
to start to change or transition some way, and we did,
and it did make us have a health there and
more successful relationship in business and in the ring everything,
because there's times we get in fights and arguments out
in the ring, like we're literally in a match and
(16:58):
we could be yelling at each other like I don't know,
if you guys remember Dusty Rhodes. He was this icon
wrestler and he would always be like the damn Bella twins.
They might be super close, but it seems like they
hate each other, and we're like, gosh, if people can
notice that that's not a good thing, Like, so, how
(17:20):
did that all happen? So it was crazy because ww
was on a search for female wrestlers and I saw that,
and you know, we didn't watch wrestling growing up, but
my sister and I worked at Hooters right when we
turned eighteen because we're like, listen, we need to make
some money and Hooters is a spot, and so we
became Hooter Girls. And they would show the w W
(17:43):
pay per views once a month and it'd be like
sold out, and we'd be sitting there and just watching.
And I was really impressed about the way wrestling would
tell a story with athletics, so it was like they're
being physical, but then they're these larger than life characters.
I'm like, well, this is like adult playtime. This is
really cool. So when I saw a couple of years
(18:04):
later that they were on the search, I was like, Nicole,
this is for us. We're soccer players. Growing up, we
always thought we were the Spice girls and with lip
sync for all our families boxing parties. I'm like you,
and I love entertainment and athletics. I think WWS are calling.
I mean, that's crazy right to think that, And sure
enough we went there. They weren't looking for twins. They
never had twins at all. No, no, no, but but
(18:26):
so we go. Bree tells me about this and I'm
like okay, And I was about to go play pro
soccer in Italy so at this point, because the women's
league here in the US had just folded, and so
I was like, okay, so I'm not playing here. And
my college coach was trying to get me to Italy
because Brie and I are half Mexican half Italian, and
he's like, we could you know, do great things with
(18:47):
you there. I think you'd be great there. So she
brings wrestling to me and I'm like wrestling and stuff
we'd watch at Hooters. I'm like, no way, Like I
just remember certain things I saw, and she's like, just
go watch Monday Night Raw. So I remember watching and
then I just, like Bree said, I fell in love
with the athleticism and the character work. But then we
(19:07):
show up for what she tells me is to try out.
So Brie and I had think, okay, we're going to
go fight people like that must be how you try
out for this. So we have our jeans and our
tank tops on. We weren't even I don't think we're
in makeup now. Our hair was still like wet and Ponies.
It was awful. So we walk up and people are
like go go outfits, and I just remember looking at
Bally like what did you get me into? What did
(19:30):
I just leave soccer for? And then like we get
on stage and I just start getting diss like will
you would you ever get fake boobs? Um? You need
to change this about yourself, like and I just remember
thinking like what that Actually we started to like go
at it for real with the people, which they liked, right,
that's in their industry called cutting promos. I was like,
(19:52):
well look at you, like yeah, all this and game over.
Then we ended up falling in love once we got
first into the ring. Yeah, And you know it was
crazy because we started we went to McDonagh, Georgia, and
then we went to Tampa, Florida before we went to television.
But it was really like love at first sight for
Nicole and I and our whole family bump bump at
first sight. Yeah, but our whole family. When we told
(20:14):
him We're like, so we're going to move to Tampa,
Florida to become professional wrestlers. Our whole family was like
what And we packed up our car and drove across
country and we were making peanuts weekly and just the
grind was really really hard and you didn't even know
if you were going to make it. And when we
got the call that they wanted us to debut on
(20:35):
SmackDown on Friday Night's SmackDown, we were just like WHOA, Like,
we're gonna maybe hit this big and then from there
the rest history. It's like our brand, we just kept growing.
The first identical or first twin girls to be in
w W E to have her debut, and then quickly
my sister and I just started to understand how to
brand ourselves and how that Vince kind of gives you
(20:57):
the keys to the truck, but you got to drive
the truck. We started to quickly realize, like, you've got
to really move and push this yourself. And so her
and Night were quickly like on it to brainstorm and
start to really create our brand with w W Wow
was it? Uh? The fandom is intense. I got to
imagine as twin, the first twins females stunning and also
(21:21):
just remarkably good. The fandom must have been so intense.
You were some of that, you were the most famous
people in the entire organization for a very long time.
Is that a lot to handle? Like, how do you
deal with that level of fame? Because I know Paris
Is obviously dealt with a lot of fame, but she's
not subjecting herself to stadiums night after night of these
(21:42):
people who are you know, trying to like grab you
on the way in to to tell you how much
they love you. Yeah, I mean it was crazy. I'll
never forget when we were in London, Nicole and I
wanted to be tourist around the London Bridge and all
of a sudden, everyone was like freaking out the Belots
but Belotowins and we're like what, Like, we're wrestlers and
like we So it was weird to like have that
(22:03):
moment where you're like whoa, Like we've made it. And
then from there I think what was crazy is with wrestling,
we're on the road, especially at our time, we were
on the road five nights a week and there's no
off season so years. So next you know, you're five
years in and you're like, oh, I should probably like
go see my family or do something. And you know,
we did it over a decade and so for her
(22:24):
and I, the grind is so hard and you were
going too hard, so sometimes you didn't even realize it
because you weren't taking a breath. You weren't like just
standing still and being like WHOA yeah, But I mean
I think now. And you know, Paris, We've always been
in awe of you because one how you built a
brand and you were able to brand yourself like before
social media, and you did it so naturally and organically,
(22:47):
and that's one thing. You know, we have a lot
of females that come to us and ask us like,
you know, how how did you build the brand that
you have? And Brian and I always say, like, it
has to be organic and authentic, and you, Brine and
I always would talk about you um within each other
when we build stuff, because you did it so organic
and you branded these things that were just a part
(23:09):
of you and and what you've created your empires absolutely amazing.
And then on top of it, how you've handled yourself
in the spotlight because Brie and I but we realized
and you were the first of this, when you're the
first woman to pave the road in something and to
break barriers and to create something that one the men
aren't ready for. When you're a force to be reckoned
(23:32):
with you, you just get the hate. And Brie and
I we wanted more for the women, and we really
fought hard for that. Like women deserve more time on TV,
we deserve better matches, better storylines, we deserve to be
equal to the men. Because Brine and I were at
the forefront of that, we get a lot of hate
as well, because how dare them stuck up for women
and fight for women and want better? And you were
(23:53):
at the forefront of, you know, women being creating a
brand of what men were pretty much only doing at
that time, And so it does. It can be hard
because sometimes I feel like even though you have this
shield and you can deal with all this hate, it
it does get exhausting and always getting dragged and trolled.
And but then it's like we have this bella army
that I feel like it's brought in so much light
(24:14):
to us. And then I start to hear all the
stories of everyone I've helped or have inspired and empowered
and it's crazy how when you let more of that
light in, how much it can kill the darkness um
Because when you do have a brand worldwide. You know,
you we don't just hear it from California, you hear
it from everywhere. And you have those moments that they
(24:34):
make you want to break and make you want to fall,
But then you realize what you do has meaning and
that you are touching so many more people in the
world than they hate, Right, that's always the loudest um
And I think then that's when you're like, this is
how I can overcome it. And you know, I know, Pairs,
you've been through so much and you've touched so many
(24:54):
people and bring eye with our stuff, and it's just
it's I think that it's those people, right that keep
you going, the people that you inspire motivate. Yeah, I
love that thinking about that, like letting all the light
in and that will take away the darkness because it
is hard, you know, growing up in this industry and
especially you know, especially like early two thousand's before people
(25:15):
were being held accountable for what they said, like women
were just treated so unfairly. And um, I love that
times are changing now me too. Finally, honestly, it's so crazy.
It's crazy to think like you know, at the time
you had to just like it was like, Okay, I
just have to how how do I smile this off?
(25:38):
Like I'm not allowed to say anything. I just have
to smile it off, sit and look pretty and not
look affected. And I'm just so happy that we're beyond
that that I can actually put on a bitch face
and actually tell you how it is. No, you can't
do that. You can't say that, this is Paris, this
(26:01):
is seven next living questions, Are you girls ready? Yes? Okay?
What is your spirit animal? And why? Oh? Okay? So
mine would definitely be a wolf? She wolf? Um, I
(26:22):
just love how wolves are mysterious but powerful, and there's
something spiritual to them, and it's like they have such
a presence no matter what when they walk up to something,
it's like you just feel like they have meaning, that
there's some purpose or something to them. And so that
would be my my spirit animals, that's that that mysterious
(26:44):
strength they have. And I would say mine would be
a bear, because bear a bear, They're courageous and I've
always called myself a mama bear. I feel like I'm
a protector and um, so like if I could have
the strength incur edge of a bear, that's my spirit animal.
I like it all right. Next, what's the craziest rumor
(27:08):
that you've ever heard about yourself? Oh, I'll let you
go first, Nicole, because you get a lot. What would
be the craziest Um. I feel like there's so many
crazy ones. I know, I can't even think right now
trying to think. You know, well, I'll never forget this
(27:29):
one that there was like, um, you know when, like
a lot of times on the internet, I felt like
the first time because my grandmother on never forget getting
this call. It would be like rebell and nude pics
and like then you click it and there's nothing. It's
like me like just in my wrestling gear or whatever,
and I'll never forget the phone call I got. My
grandmother's like, so my cleaning lady told me you have
(27:49):
nude picks on the internet and I was like what,
And then of course it goes to my aunts and everyone.
I'm like wait a second. I'm like no, I'm like,
just click the link. It's my wrestling gear. But I
remember that's that was one where I like to have
to talk to my grandmother about it. I'm like, really
got like you write you know what? I guess for
me when I was going through a very public breakup
(28:10):
and everyone thought that I would It was um that
we were lying for ratings for our show coming out,
and I remember that was everyone. I was like over
here with like a broken heart, like, oh my god,
media is so ruthless, Like why would I lie about
that for ratings? So I remember when that whole thing
went down, that was like the craziest and I remember
(28:32):
like some wrestlers went on podcasts and talked about it,
like how is lying? So maybe that one. Yeah, kind
of vultuary. A lot of the media and stuff where
they just wait until there's some little vulnerability, true or not,
and they just pack and peck and peck. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
click bait. Yes, people the media don't want to talk
(28:53):
about nice, positive things. They like only to talk about
bad things and be mean. But that's just how they are,
like bait. Yeah, Okay, do you believe in ghosts? Yes, yes,
we've seen ghosts. And I also feel like I can
smell it, like I can walk into a place and
(29:14):
know it's they totally have a smell, like there's yeah,
what's the smell. The smell it's like it's what I
think you would consider old and moldy like, but there's
something to it. There's like a tan to it. It's
like you're just describing like every old creepy house you know,
I guaranteed, but it's like more than that, and there's
(29:39):
you get goose bumps, and there's a thickness to do
you just know you're not alone. Maybe like the smell
is a chilled thickness. Yeah, yeah, it's it's weird as
opposed to saying anything that smells like it's made before,
you know. I guess, good point, more chance for there
(30:01):
to be ghosts if it's been around for multiple generations.
They don't want to let go. Sage. Your house is
like when you you do Paris to you, Sage, I
need to do that. I actually did it once like
years ago. My friend is like a Sharman Sean what
is so female charman called Sharman or Sharmon Sharman Umman
(30:23):
came over and she did it like years ago. But
I need to do it again. So thanks for reminding me. Yeah,
I love it. I believe it. Oh yeah, I saged
the time. Yeah, we sage a lot. It was funny
because my son one time in bed, you know, babies
they'll just sometimes wake up a new little baby talk.
And but Mateo got up and he was like crying,
(30:44):
but he was like putting his arm out and like
if he was touching something. And I'm in my I'm
like there's a ghost or something. I thought there was something.
I literally ran and got sage and I want to
stage and everything, like please go, he's going. I was
so scared and he was just probably like doing it
in his sleep, but I was, man, so I like,
literally I feel like stage every like four days. So
it's really funny. So we're neighbors, right, and my husband
(31:06):
he doesn't believe in any of this kind of stuff.
And he came home and he walked in the house
and he goes, so Nicoles outside stage in her house. Again,
I'm like, it was a full moon. I do it
on everything, yeah, with my meditation music, and her husband
all of a sudden staring at me and I was
doing it and I was like, hey, Brian, and he's like,
(31:29):
the ghosts are just like crossing to the other side
of the street when they passed your house because it
smells like, yeah, I just want to come in. Yeah,
not Mika next sliver, All right, what is your life slogan.
(31:51):
My mom would always say it to me growing up,
but live with no regrets because I felt like I
always it always made me take that leap of faith
and always and you just try things even though if
I failed, I'm like, I have to do it, so
live with no regrets. Yeah, and mine would also be
another mama one. Um, you know your definition of success,
and so you know, for me, success always was happiness.
(32:14):
So whenever I took a job or whatever I did,
as long as that I could get to the point
of happiness, Um, nothing else hadn't mattered. And any job
I go into always trying to define what what is
it that I want out of this? Wow, that's really good. Yeah,
it's helped a lot and mentally it helps a lot. Well,
then I want to ask you guys, what's your definition
(32:36):
of success for this stage of each of your lives,
Like what you're coming into right now. Yeah. You know,
it's interesting because we actually been talking about this because
we do feel like we're going through transition and we're
going into a new chapter of our lives. And I
was kind of like, WHOA, I feel like I can
kind of create what I want my next chapter to
(32:56):
be and you know it's it's along like being happy,
but also more simple, like we say yes to everything,
and I have since I've been in my early twenties.
I'm thirty eight now going to be thirty nine, and
I'm just like, I want to say no more and
i want just like when I look at all my
things that I prioritize and everything, i want that list
to be cut in half. I'm tired of having this
(33:17):
long list. I wanted to be smaller. I want to
be okay with having a really slow morning. I want
almost live like a European, like do things slower right.
You know, they are able to have wine every day
and it doesn't affect them and they just say it
was but down right and mine, Yeah, it's been simple.
(33:42):
And how I can become more private has been this
next chapter in my life because having a son, it's
you know, Brie and I've always been open books and
reality stars and all these things, and now that he's
in this world, it is crazy how my guard has
gone up and everything I do now I think of him,
and I'm like, I need to be more private and
I need to start creating more of a private life
(34:04):
because I just, you know, fear for him a lot,
and I want him to be as to grow up
as normal as he can UM and let him make
his choices when he gets older and what it is
he wants to do. And so that's kind of been
the next chapter. Paris, what's your definition of success for? Like?
All right, so you just got married. So what would
be your definition of success for the marriage? Three best
(34:28):
friends and have fun and lift up and support each
other and be the best teammates and kill it and
take the world over together. Put it in the ring.
Let's see Carter and Paris go up against another couple. Actually,
(34:49):
you know it would be cool because I think it
could be like kind of similar story, but like even
take on the McMahon's, like the Hilton's versus the McMahon's,
like Shane and Stephanie. UM, and get your sister involved.
I've ever been like a manager where she walks out? Yeah,
(35:14):
that would be good. Actually to see your mom in
a segment with Vince, like Vince off without not just
be awesome. I think Kathy and Vince, if they had
one segment together, it would lead to its own reality show,
The Odd Couple. You know it would be so good,
(35:34):
so good. I would love that. You would be great.
Your mom can bring him like on the Housewives and
like just tell all the other women off, Like can
you imagine having Vince McMahon in your corner, like pitting
promos on people, bring him to the dinner parties? Yeah,
I love it's so good. Who's your childhood celebrity crush
(35:59):
and your current celebrity gosh, so mine was definitely in
middle school Ethan hawk Um, great expectations. I'll there forget
when I saw that and I was like, oh my gosh,
she's Ethan hawk Um. And then my one now because
I was a huge Game of Thrones and Drago, I
(36:20):
was like a huge Game of Thrones fans. Yeah, sorry
Thrones fan. So Jason Momoa sometimes I look at him,
I'm like, yeah, that that's a nice man, right there. Funny.
So mine growing up was Anthony Keatis, and yeah, I
still think it's Anthony Keatis. It's funny. I mean it's
(36:43):
rings so true with what you said your types are too,
that Bree has picked the beefiest man in all of Hollywood,
and you picked the skinniest rock star that has ever existed, Right, Yeah,
it is. And actually when we were younger, I like
the skinny rocker ones and she like the beef your jocks,
I'm looking swift. Well, I mean and Anthony to back
(37:05):
in the day, you know, he'd have that long like
Brad Pitt from Legends of the Fall hair, like I
thought it was a very toned body, you know, and
they give it away music video. I just remember actually
being in like fifth grade, very young, like, oh whoa,
I like that, Like that's what I like. That made
me feel. Yeah, I was like, all right, I think
(37:27):
I'm into men. All right, yeah coming a woman is coming. Yeah.
So he's yeah, he's just he's perfect. Great, we'll get
him on the podcast. We'll let him know. Paris Finals
Living question. Okay, which moment in your life would you
(37:48):
like to do over the most? And it could be
for a good reason, like you don't have to want
to change anything. If you don't want to change something,
you can just relive it. So okay, I just want
to rely it because obviously I'm obsessed with my family
and like I could imagine a day without them. But
I lived in New York City for two years when
(38:08):
I turned twenty seven, so I was like twenty seven
to twenty nine a day, one day you get, I know,
one day. So I'm saying that's my time period of
like how I felt. But living in New York during
that time, it was like the most amazing time of
my life, besides having my family. But if I could
go back to that just one day, that era of
(38:29):
my life, that would be really fun. That's a good one.
I was about to say my labor just because to
feel that I want, I know, right, isn't that crazy?
You're just jealous because he came out of my vagina
and yours didn't. I'm not, gosh, what day do I
(38:52):
want to relive? Oh my, there's so many, you know,
I think one day that I would like to re
live is when so we once in like the lifetime
of wrestling so far, we got to have finally an
all women's pay per view and Rhonda Rousing and I
main evented it with Bree as well, and it was
(39:13):
like historic and just what we fought for. And I
remember I was going through a lot mentally at that time,
and like hating to hide it. It was because I
was going through my breakup and so it was just
mentally I was trying to be there so much, and
I feel like it was a very emotional time for me.
So I would love to relive it now of who
(39:34):
I am now and like this clear headspace, because it
was already an epic moment, but I know that inside
I could have I could be even more epic, you
know what I mean? I agree? Yeah, so evolution, I'd
relive it, and i'd beat Rhonda. I wouldn't lose. I'd
actually beat her. Yeah, because I lost. That's unfair. I know. Well,
(39:59):
there's always next time. Now. I just gotta get you
guys out of retirement to to do another main event. Hey,
if the Hiltons show up, then maybe will be there. Great. Well,
speaking of the Hilton's and the Bellas again, everyone go
check out the Bellas podcast because Paris is going over there.
(40:19):
They're going to continue the conversation and enjoy. Thank you
Gus for talking to us. Yeah, it was fun. Get
better Hunter. Thanks. I'm so sad that it's so apparent
in my voice right now, but yeah, it'll it'll go away.
Thank you, guys, Paris, fantastic questions. I love your slivers
me too. Thank you girls. This is so much fun.
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Thank you Yes, thank you for having us on and
we're excited for you to come on. I can't wait. Yes,
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