January 16, 2023 • 38 mins
From teenage heartthrob to badass actor…Noah Centineo joins Paris as they relive their wild days and their…not so wild ones. They have a lot in common as they discuss their nightmares and how they found themselves on the other side of them.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is Paris. Hey guys, I'm back with another episode.
Today we haven't no Ah Sentennaio. We're gonna be talking
about his new show that's out on Netflix right now,
called The Recruit and so much more so let's do it.
(00:25):
I know. Uh so as some say, congratulations, I'm loving
The Recruit on Netflix, Carter and I've been binging it.
It's so good. Thank you, like you killed it. Thank
you so much. I appreciate that. So how was this
project a lot of fun? It was cool? Um, it
was it was great. We shot in Montreal, so it
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was the opposite of what we're talking about. It was freezing,
but that's a better living hot I think, so, like
I preferred, I actually really liked it. Um, you just
get a jacket, you know, like if you get a jacket.
I didn't even have gloves, so I guess it wasn't
that cold that I thought it was necessary will get cloves.
But it was great. We went there, um, and it
was six months. We started in October and then we
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finished I think in like March. Uh ended up going
to Vienna for a couple of weeks and then and
then l A for a couple of days and Um,
it was definitely the longest I've ever been away from
home to work on something, and I actually I loved
it and I got to learn so not because like
I don't like being at home or I like didn't
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miss my friends and my family. There's just something about
it, I I think, being forced in that force, but like
being able to work in another country by yourself for
that much time, you just get to spend a lot
of time alone. Um, and I I don't know, it
was it was for me like a great experience all around. Yeah,
it's fun just to get away sometimes from everything and
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just be able to focus. I love Vienna too, It's beautiful. Yeah. Yeah.
I got to swim in the river. They have that
river that goes around the whole city. That was cool.
It was freezing cold again, like that that it's going
to be cold. That's like the the thesis statement of
this entire podcast. Temperature, whether it's hot or whether it's cold.
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Global warming is not hot. No, not at all. God
speaking of which, like the amount of rain and storms
that are hitting the entire country right now, I know,
the rain for like three days straight in l A
almost feels like crazy. I had to have someone come
at like ten thirty at night, two nights to go
to like unclogged like the drain things, because it was
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like literally that the pool was like almost about to overflow.
It was just like NonStop. Yeah, like my friends, some
of my friends houses like flooded. Yeah. I saw something
Ellen posted with like some weird thing like in the
background just going great. It just looked like something out
of a movie. Yeah. Yeah, the whole country is kind
of open arms about. It's pretty wild. But at least
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it's sunny today today I stopped raining. It's great. I
like the rain too though. Actually, like I think, for me,
I don't know why I've always loved there. I think
it's probably because I'm from Florida. Ye you're from right, Yeah,
I was born there. And uh, And it's it's such
a bipolar weather because it'll be super sunny out and
then there won't even be a cloud in the sky
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and it'll be raining. He'll be like, where is this
rain coming from? Sunshowers and then suddenly like torrential downpour.
It's it's it's like Miami. Yeah, I haven't spent a
lot of time in Miami. Um, obviously like living in Florida.
I started acting UM out of Miami and West Pond
Beach when I was younger, so I was there a
lot more when I was younger, doing commercials and modeling UM.
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But as I grew up, like I moved to l A.
And then when I go back, I just like being
my dad as a place in Delray Beach. So when
I go back, I just chilled del Ray. I love
it there. It's just chill. I go with my parents
a lot, and I don't know, I just think it's relaxing.
With Miami's fun to like go out, but I just
love going there and the restaurants and just the vibe
is just really laid back. I like it. Yeah, It's
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it's a cool place to do nothing Like I'm not
really like I don't really like going on like clubs
or bars even really so for me though, going back
to Florida, it's just a different place entirely. So even
like getting out of Miami and just being able to
like sit with my father like read a book or something.
It's really nice. Did you always were never into the
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club scene or any of that. No, I wasn'to it
when I was young. I was for sure into it
when I was younger, for especially out here in l A. Yeah,
it used to be so much fun. It used to
be really fun. I think, like when you're in it,
you love it, and then I kind of grew out
of it. I feel like after the pandemic too, it's
(04:42):
just not the same. Really, the vibe is not the same.
I don't know. I mean people never danced in l
A when you were going out, Like I remember when
I would go out with my friends, Um, we would
like I mean, some people would be dancing. But it's
different if you're like in Miami at least, I think
people dancing like when I have a good time. But
in l A, people just like stand there and like
hold to drink and just kind of like look around.
(05:03):
It's like a weird vibe. That's so true. And I
feel like social media has just changed the whole vibe.
Like back before that, l A was so much fun,
Like everyone would go out, no one was worried about
who was filming them, are going to come up? It
was like so sick. That must have been so tight, right,
Like there wasn't you don't have to worry about someone
(05:23):
pulling out a phone and like recording you like chugging
and half a bottle of vodka or something. You were
just like, I don't know. I mean, I don't know
what you did when you were in the club, but
like I feel like I feel like probably similar stuff
to like what me and my friends like used to do.
I mean when it's like you're just having a good
time and like partying. Oh my god, it was so
much fun. There was nothing like it. Like I feel
like people today I don't even know what fun is
(05:44):
in l A nightlife. Really, yeah, I probably I probably
would have no idea. I mean when I think the
last time that like I regularly went out, I was underage. Yes,
you know, by the time you turned come over, I'm serious.
I got so rude when I turned twenty one the
day before I turned funny, when I was like, oh,
I'm just not going to drink alcohol or do any
drugs anymore. And you haven't since No, that's I mean.
(06:06):
They took a year off and then um and worked,
and then after a year I was like, Okay, I
think I can manage it. And then for a few
more years I was like, yeah, drink and whatever. And
then about a year ago I was like I think
I should take another break. So I've been. I've been
technically sober for like just over a year. It's cool,
it's good for me. Yeah, I like doing it because
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I get to at least focus on everything that I
want to do. And um, I feel accountable. Like if
I would show up to like today and I had
been hungover and like I just had like not given
it my all, then like afterwards, I'd be kicking myself,
like man, like if you hadn't drink whatever whatever. At
Least now I go if I suck, like I'm totally
accountable for why I sucked. You know, I can't blame
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anything else except for me. And it feels good to
like wake up like not hungover. It's so nice. Like
when I used to go out all the time, I
would just feel so the next day and just like
hating lives sometimes. And now I like I don't go
out anymore, Like I'm always working. I don't drink, so
I'm just feeling like amazing every morning and it's just
a different feeling. So do not not really drinking. I
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don't even I don't like the taste of it, Like
I think before I was just so traumatized from what
I went through at those schools, being abused and all
that that I was drowning the pain out and like
not wanting to think about it from getting out of
there at eighteen. For in a while, I just was
like so consumed with the nightlife and going out and
just not having to think about what happened to me.
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And I think that's like a huge coping mechanism with people. Absolutely,
like a pain killer, you just why you don't have
to think about it if you're having fun. I just
want to have fun and you just want to feel
you fork, because especially if you've been through something as dark,
you know, and twisted, then you've last thing you want
to do when you're younger is actually confront that. It's yeah,
(07:57):
it's I'm glad I finally did, though, but it took
me a while to process that. Can I ask like, like,
what was there someone or was it something that made
you just go I have to deal with this. I
can't not I can't go on not dealing with this
and confronting it. Was maybe you just like kept finding
yourself repeating patterns and we're like I'm done with this pattern.
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Or it was someone that was like you needed whatever. Um,
it really was something that when I got out of there,
I just made a promise to myself that I'm not
going to tell anyone about this, just pretend it never happened,
because they had really instilled that shame in me, making
me think like I was the bad one, even though
they were the ones that were being, you know, obviously
horrible people. I didn't talk about it anyone. None of
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my friends knew, and my family didn't know, my sister,
my best friends, like boyfriends, ever, no one knew about this.
This was like my deep dark secrets crazy because so
many bad things that happened to me, and when you're
a kid, you don't even know how to process things.
So I thought I was such a bad person because
all of these horrible things that these adults, you know,
who are supposed to be taking care of me were
doing to me. So I didn't trust anyone. I didn't
(09:02):
want to talk to anyone, Like I literally just locked
it out from my memory. And that's why I created
like this Paris Hilton character and like, oh, I'm like
this perfect life and I'm a dumb blonde and like
trying to just be the total opposite of what I
really was. And then during the documentary that I always
had these severe nightmares every night since I was a teenager,
(09:25):
since I'm sixteen, and they never went away, and it
was always the same thing, getting taken out of my bed, kidnapped,
brought to these places, and the whole dream. I'm just
all the same teachers are there, are the same things
are happening to me, and I'm just trying to escape.
And it was like a reaccuring nightmare every single night.
And finally I told the director about it because I'm like,
i can't sleep, I'm so tired. We're in Korea, I'm
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on a press tour for my skin Caroline, I'm so dead.
And she's like why, I'm like this crazy nightmare and
I told her about it, and then she said, well,
why do you have those nightmares? I'm like, because it
happened to me. But when we were filming, and I go,
but let's just not talk about it, like we're not
putting this on and she's like, what do you mean.
Then she tried to push me, and then the next
morning she came to me with all the thousands and
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thousands of articles and stories that this was still happening,
and it's become like a multibillion dollar industry. That's like
a hundred and fifty billion dollar industry or something, and
there's thousands of the schools and it's blown up into
this huge thing, and nobody was talking about it, and um,
she's like, you need to talk about it, and she's like,
I found the girls you went to school with all this.
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So it was really just crazy how it all happened.
But I'm so glad it did because I didn't even
know who I was until this film. It's crazy. That's insane.
And was that it wasn't really until the documentary that
you stopped even like drinking and stuff as well? Was
it after that all of that kind of came after?
Was that a little bit before as well? It wasn't
like I was drinking every second. I was just like
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going out and I'm so shy and I get such
social anxiety that I need to have like a shot
or like a glass of like I don't know, wine
or something, just to like not be so embarrassed and
not feel so weird walking in. And I don't know,
I'm just really like people wouldn't think that, but I'm
such like an introvert who pretends to be an actrovert
because it's part of my job, you have to write.
(11:14):
So yeah, it's that's and that's so like crazy that
it um but like it's it's wonderful at the same
time that that was how this you were able to
talk about it. I mean, I I feel like I
have a very privileged upbringing, you know, like I had
a very safe childhood, and you know, preteen years and
(11:35):
early adolescent years into my twenties, i'd like to I mean, honestly,
the truth is all of the danger in my life
came from like my own decisions once I moved to
l a and like had enough money to take care
of myself. UM. But but like I read this book
called A Little Life UM and in it, one of
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the characters goes through unspeakable trauma UM in his early
life UM and refuses to talk about it. Like the
whole his whole mentality was I'm just going to pretend
that has never happened to me, that I'm not this
person that was impacted by these things, and I don't
want anyone to know. And it's it's wild, you know,
(12:20):
I'm I'm sure there's a reason why the author gave
him that perspective and that that identity of of just
trying to create a complete barricade between anyone finding out
about them. Um, and like hearing you talk about it too,
like it's I can't imagine how many people have gone
through something where they feel the same way. It's been
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just well, that's been one of the best parts is
just the people who have reached out to me and
said thank you so much for telling your story. I've
been spoken to my parents and years because of this.
Now they finally believe me. People thought I was crazy
for all these years, and now I finally feel validated
for what I went through, and now to be changing
laws in seven states taking it to a federal level,
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so this is illegal everywhere. So everything I went through,
all the pain and all the trauma, would make it
worth it to me if I can stop it from
happening to other kids. And that's why I'm just going
to continue fighting for this. And thank you so much
for everything that you're doing with all of your charity
work and helping me raise awareness for this, and it
just means a lot. You're really cool, dude, O. Man,
(13:26):
I appreciate you like letting letting us get involved. I mean,
I you know, I had no idea I had no
idea that this was going on until until we met
and started talking and I learned about what you were doing. UM,
And it's it's important. Is there is there anything that, like, um,
that anyone can do to like get involved and helped
push the agenda that you're like getting these laws passed
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and movement definitely just going and signing our petition to
shut down pro Volcanian School, which is a change dot
org and using the hashtag breaking code silence and I
See you Survivor. If you search on those you'll find
out so much that's going on. And if people I
also want to tell their stories, UM, like go to
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the website and we also have a podcast dedicated to
it that I produce called Trapped and Treatment, which is
all about the trouble team industry. And yeah, just as
much awareness as we can raise as possible is important
because there's literally been hundreds of children who have died
and it's just it's heartbreaking that kids are going in
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there to be healed and instead they're being traumatized and killed. Yeah,
the fact that is still happening. It's just wild. Um,
Like you would think that, you know, with the the
Internet as it is in the way that stories travel
and how people can congregate and share their stories, something
like this doesn't even catch fire until one person, you know,
(14:54):
namely you, decides to go, I'm going to speak out
about this publicly. Um, you would think that it would
have been uncovered already. And it begs the question, I
wonder how many how many other things are going on
that that just haven't been uncovered yet because someone is
too afraid to come forward and say something. Oh yeah,
there's so many. They do scared tactics. They sue these
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people they call threatened their families. Like, I've heard so
many stories where people are just too scared to say anything.
And these are these are programs? Are they? Can you
tell me more? Like if that's okay, we can talk
about Yeah, of course. I love talking about it because
I think it's important. So thank you for caring. Yeah,
of course. And I'm just curious to um as someone
that's ignorant of the of of of the of the
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programming in itself. So are these schools that kids are
sent to that have bad kids are thought to have
bad behavior, and they's so kind of like, I don't
a wilderness camp or is it. It's a mixture of everything.
Like I went to four of them because I kept
running away, and I went to Wilderness as well, which
was horrible. And that place is shut down because a
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lot of kids died there. Um, and they're they're called
emotional growth schools. So they kind of called the parents
or they very much called the parents into thinking it's
an amazing place. If fake burushures and websites where their
kids are smiling, and they get stock photos of like
kids riding horses and like, you know, doing all these
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amazing things, and you think that they're going to go
and be happy in this beautiful place. But when you
get there, it's like a cult. Like it's started as
a cult in the nineteen sixties, and it's all of
these people have like realized how profitable it is, so
they would go out and other people who would work
there would go and open their own. So now there's
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just like thousands of them that are all related, and
anytime there's a death, they'll change the name to another name.
And they're not really considered schools. They're not considered hospitals
are not. They're like in this kind of like gray area,
so they can get away with it legally because there's
not really laws, so they have children basic we have
like no human rights in these places. Oh my god,
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they're they're not. It's a cult, is it is there
like a religious element to it usually or it's very weird.
It was called sinnan On. This was like in the sixties,
and it was not a religious like about like loving
God or anything like that. It was crazy just the
kind of rules that this guy would have and making.
He was kind of the like head and like, this
is the guy that, like I guess just you know,
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the leader of the yes or whatever. And then he
opened c to which was the first place that I
went to, and standard Adina Mountains um and they got
shut down because kids were dying there as well. And
there's still hundreds of them open, or like a bunch
of them and thousands of them omans. Thank you for
opening my eyes to it and talking about because I
had no idea this is Paris. So speaking of families,
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it seems like you and your family really close. I
see like you and your dad. You post like you
videos of him. Are you guys like best friends? We're
really close. Yeah, we we we have a really cool relationship.
I feel like it is of course father and son. Um.
But I grew up watching him. You know, he went
(18:15):
from being a pastor to opening his own coffee shop,
to going and being a lone consultant to working in
structured finance and private equity. And he didn't have a degree. Um.
And so I from birth until I was about sixteen
seventeen years old when I moved to when I was fifteen,
sivially until I was fifteen, I just watched this guy
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go from you know, having no no money saved, which
is still better than most I think a lot of
families right around the planet, but um, having no money
in the in the savings account whatsoever, to actually like
saving money and then like moving us out of one
house into like a slightly bigger house in that house
to a bigger house, and you know, ultimately getting us
into a position where he was able to move me
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and my mom to California while he was staying in
Florida with my sister. So I watched this guy just
work like a mother. And with that, UM, I think
I tried to adopt those qualities as well and and
make them a part of my every day. So when
we're together, it feels like like like a like a
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bro relationship. We call each other dude, and like it's
not like yes, sir, it was never really like my
dad always treated me and my sister as adults and
as equals. Um. So we're needless to say we are
very close. Um. And I'm close with my mom as well,
and UM, I feel very fortunate. I think I'm a
lot closer with my my parents than than I ever
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really thought that I was. And as I get older,
I only get closer and closer to them. Um. Yeah,
I feel like I also like growing up, I tried
to push away from them a lot because they were
so sweet to me. They did codd on me a lot.
And as I got older, I went, I do this myself.
I want to do it myself. And I definitely tried to. Um.
And you know, when you're when you're young and you're
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in l A and you're working and you're making money
and you have your own security, you can you make
your choices, you live life on your terms, and and
I think I realized it took me a little bit
too long, I think to realize it, but I ultimately realized, like, no,
I need to keep my family close and I need
to I need to you know, start focusing on my
career more and um yeah, just kind of put my
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energy into my family more than I that I had been. Yeah,
family really is everything, and you just realize just how
precious time is and everything. So I tried to spend
as much time with my parents as possible because before
I was just traveling so much. But now that I'm
home more and try to make the time, which is nice.
And you watch them get older too. My mom it
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looks so hot and it it doesn't look but still like
it's scary to see like a lot of my friends
moms and people are getting so sick and it's just
like terrifying. Yeah it is. It is. It's like you're
you're looking at it in a very real way, like
for me, at very at least two, Like that's the
one thing in the back of my head that keeps
pushing me. I know, I always get so scared thinking
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of that. Getting that call is like so terrifying to
think about. Yeah, it's it's subject forever. Yeah, it's what
it's really one of those dark things that we all
agreed to write. If you're you're born, then like you're
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going to die. You have parents they are too. I'm
scared for me when I like, I don't want to
think about it. I'm just hoping it's like not nothing
Like I wanted to be something where it's like the
after life. Yeah, like it would be so boring. Imagine,
just like black darkness. You wouldn't be there, which is cool.
You wouldn't be there to be like this is boring.
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That would suck. It really was like you're alive, but
nothing else, just all darkness something. Where's the club? Your
parents are like rolling over in their proverbial nothingness. They're like,
goddamn at the club again? I meant for me? Yeah,
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I don't know. This is really There's this really great
book called Elsewhere. UM needs write down both these Elsewhere
and what was the other one too? A little A
Little Life, A Little Life Elsewhere. Yeah, I will. Elsewhere
is a little bit younger. It's like A Little Life
is um you know, like eight hundred pages and it's
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an epic and it will rip your heart out, and
from what I understand, people even love it or they
hate it. I loved it. I tend to love books
of people when it's when it's so like when there's
such a polarity between whether people like or hate something,
I always tend to kind of like it. I don't
know why. But Elsewhere is like, it's it's it's a
it's definitely adult, but it's written through the perspective of
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a fifteen year old girl that passes away um and
she goes to a place called Elsewhere where we age
in reverse until we're like seven days old, and then
they put you in a boat and they send you
back to Earth and you get born again to live
the next life. And then if you make it to
like seventy and you die, you go back to Elsewhere
and then you live from seventy back down. It's just
(23:32):
this constant yeah, exactly like that, exactly like that. But
it's it's really it's a wonderful book, and it kind
of it kind of touches on like, oh, hey, like
what if the place that we go to, if we
go somewhere after we die, it is the same place
that we were before we lived, And it kind of
creates an interesting like loop to like maybe this is
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the this is the blip, and that's the that's home,
and this is the vacation. Um. Yeah, it's just like
a fun way to think about it. I love that. Obviously,
we don't know unless you know, unless you're not telling
us something. This is Paris. I'm gonna definitely send you
(24:20):
my book. It's coming out soon. I just wrote my
first autobiography. It's coming out March four. But it's really
really raw, real, like the whole story everything, it's from
the beginning. Yeah, that's wild. How long did it take
for you to to write that? Like a year and
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a half down. Yeah, I go into everything. Look, stuff
I've never told anyone, got it. It's gotta be so
tough shared, I know. I'm like, does it feel good? Yeah?
It feels good because I feel that these are stories
that I wish that I had this book when I
was a teenager, that I could just read from someone's
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experiences and I don't know, maybe learn things to do
and things not to do and just get that kind
of I don't know, advice, and also let people know
they're not alone. Just so many things that I've went
through that I've never discussed. I know that so many
other women have went through and people in general, and
what's really really powerful story. Yeah, I mean, look like
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trauma abuse, you know, affects anyone no matter what they
where they come from, you know, you know where they
live and whatnot. And so I think, especially nowadays, more
than ever, I think kids are being raised by their
by their peers with the Internet. Right, Like, if a
kid wants to know, you know, the answer to whatever
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question about puberty, and they have a weird relationship with
their parents, they're gonna ask their friends, or they're gonna
google it, or they're gonna find the answer on TikTok,
and and that's creating this crazy riff between parents and
kids that already existed naturally, right, and even now it's
even bigger and bigger. And so having a source material
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where a kid can go and read and maybe identify
with some things that they would never want to talk
to their parents about because if they're ashamed, they don't
want to talk to their friends about for the same
reason or or for any reason that they don't want
to talk about it to be able to, I think
when you find other people that have been through something
similar or have similar thoughts as you, you just don't
feel as alone like you're saying, And it's just important
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for people to communicate and communicate honestly. I think there's
ever a disagreement, it's usually because someone isn't communicating the
right way or holding space for another person's opinion. Um,
And the power of just honest communication is overwhelming if
we allow it to be present in any sort of
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situation or our day to day life. So I think
that's really really sick that you're doing an autobiography. It's like,
and it's not easy to do. No, definitely one of
the hardest things I've ever done. Do you have any testimonies?
Do you have any people in there that are like, oh,
I was there, Paris was wild in New York. Yeah,
she interviewed some people, so we got all the stories.
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It's like it will make you laugh, you'll cry, You'll
be like, oh my god, this is like so many
My life has been so crazy, very full life. I
can imagine it must be. So when did you your family?
You said New York. So you guys were in New
York for a while and then you moved to l A.
I was born in New York and then moved to
l A. When I was like three, then lived in
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l A till fifteen, and then moved to New York
until sixteen, and then moved to those crazy schools until eighteen,
and then I was just after that I wanted to
move to l A. So I moved l A eighteen
and yeah, yeah, not bad, Len. I mean I fell
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in love with l A because there's so much to
do here. And I think at first you go if
you're in the nightlife, then you're like, Okay, I'll just
go to like this club or this club or this
thing or that this house. I think house parties was
really big for me, like when I was younger. Was
it the same for you? I think, like l Ale
thing about l A. Maybe I don't know what the
vibe is in New York because I definitely don't. Haven't
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spent a lot of time there. I didn't grow up there.
But in l A, we would call them kickbacks. You know,
someone's parents are out of town and you just kick
it at the house. What we used to do religiously,
which was ridiculous, was we would put YouTube on the
TV and just shut our brains down and become zombies
for hours and hours and hours. I couldn't believe. I
look back and I've probably spent like a hundred hours
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just looking at it YouTube TV and TV with YouTube though,
just such a waste of time. Like my parties are
definitely different than that. I called it pregaming and after
parties and after after by. I feel like for me,
if I ever pregame half the time, it ended up
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with me just like staying home and just being way
too drunk to go out. I would never really had
good like like I never really had a stopping point.
It's always like let's go out and so time, thank god,
so nuts, so nuts. But it is I don't know.
I think for me as I get older, I want to, um,
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I want to Just it's hard, right because there's if
you have a lot of success, like early on in
your life and you kind of go Like for me,
I guess when I reflect, I was eight I wanted
to be on Disney Channel. When I was fifteen, I
made her on Disney Channel, and then I was like, well,
I would like to be on a show as a
series regular. And then when I was eighteen I did that, um,
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and then I was twenty one trying to reflect, and
I was like, well, I guess I want to be
in like movies and and like all the Boys came
out and so by the time I was I love
those movies that there's special, there's something special, so that
now you're like the teen heartthrob icon. I think I
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think it was, you know, because we will always be.
But now you're like, like, I don't know, Like that's
the question, right, The question is like what now? And
I guess that's kind of like, yeah, what I was
getting it, thank you, you're killing it. But that's the
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question is as I get older, like what what stories
do we want to tell? What do we want to
do that that not just entertains people, because hell yeah, yeah,
Like I want to entertain people, want people to go
and watch the stories that we're creating and be like,
oh my god, like that was hilarious or so real,
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so honest, so great, um, but also something that shows
the world as it is today. Like I would like
to start creating things that when people look back on
them in twenty years, they can go, yeah, that's what
it was, like, like that's that's exactly what it was.
And I think that's what some of the greatest artists
of the human race have been able to do is
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accurately portray the times. Um. Yeah. So that's kind of
what I've been focusing on over the last four months, right,
like when it comes to not just like reading things,
but developing things. Um yeah. I started a production company
with one of my best friends and Zoe. What's the
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name of that. It's called Arkham Productions. It's it's kind
of it's it sounds like Arkham Asylum, but it's actually not. Um,
although we are all crazy, so it does kind of
makes sense. Um. But yeah, and uh, it has a
has a different meaning, but we don't have to go
into it, um. And we're just developing our slate now.
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And it's cool. It's cool to be on the other
end of it, where you go, what stories do we
want to tell? What are we genuinely really really excited
about it? How can we do it with people? So
any anyway, I don't know, I don't know why I
went on this tangent, but I but this is the
end of it. So I think it's cool that you're
like in front of the camera but now also getting
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behind and like taking control. And I read some interview
where you just produced the recruit and that you would
go up to people on set and be like, what
can I do to like help make it better on set?
And I thought that was so thoughtful and sweet. Someone
was talking, so it's airing out my action. No, that's cool. Thanks.
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Whoever said that? Maybe Amelia Amelia was saying that. Laura
was saying that it's a lie. I just it's a
total light. No, I don't know it was. It was
really an educational experience to be an EP on the recruit.
I mean to be able to be in on conversations
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and meetings that they're having about production design and and
pre production location scouting, text like learning the politics of
of working with a city, UM, whether it's Vienna or
whether it's Montreal to get something made, UM, dealing with
scheduling and rescheduling and re rescheduling and UM working with
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you know, different actors and getting them into town and
out of town at the right time, and then getting
episodes delivered and changing those There's so much that I
got to just bear witness too that I had never
been a part of before, and for me, it was
just highly educational UM and I really appreciate Alexei Um
Alexei Holly who's our showrunner and are the writer of
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the show. Also an ep um for allowing me and
those conversations into and to listen and learn underneath them,
because I'm going to take it forward without a doubt um,
And that's really what I'm down for. Like, I'm just
down to learn more about it. I want to. I
I've been working since I was eight, But I also
feel like I also feel like I got success really fast,
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even though it was a long time since I was
eight to you know now to call it twenty two
it's all the boys. It felt fast. It felt like
I I didn't really earn it. I feel like it
was kind of just given to me, even though I
worked really hard for it. Still feels that way. And
so I want to do justice to the art form
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and I want to become a student of it because
I never really got to study it. I kind of
just was working and I got all my knowledge from
experience of being on a set, which is incredibly valuable,
arguably as if not more valuable, because you can learn
things in a class, but until you go to law school,
until you're in the courtroom, maybe you don't really know
what you're doing. Right. You know how to take the stand,
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if that's even the right term, which I should know,
but I don't. Um So, anyway, I guess that's that's
where I'm at. I'm in a phase where I just
want to learn and and and yeah and feel good
about what I'm doing. Do you do acting classes? I
used to? I don't. I don't do them anymore. I've
been thinking about going back, though. I went to a couple.
I hated it, really. I just hate when they do
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that thing, the technique. We are like sitting in the
chair and you're staring at each other's eyes and you
don't even know the person and you're just like going
back and forth like yes, I'm like literally looking at
the person like this is I never want to come
here again. I think that's called Meisner technique. Technique like
you're sitting, I'm sitting. I see you sitting. So when
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I went to theater school, I think we did like
one class on that. I did the theater school in
middle school a really long time ago. It's interesting there's
so many different techniques to acting. UM I learned from
someone called Ceremony Now, and she developed her own method
called the more Now method. UM and it changed my life.
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It was I really attribute you know, any little bit
that I know about acting from from her more now
method m O R N E L L method. She's
badass and she's cool too, Like she's not going to
be in there and try to get you to feel
something you don't feel. Her whole thing is like, we
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learned how to act every day, like like I identify
with what you said when you said that you feel
like you're an introvert that learned to be an extrovert
like that, We just learned to act, We learned how
to survive, we learned how to be in front of
people a certain way. Um. And her whole thing is, well,
let's figure out how you act in your day to
day life, and let's figure out how much of that
is you, and how much of that is taught. And
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then let's just take away the filter. Let's take away
that and get to the truest version of you and
then we'll start from there. And it it creates this
really natural sense of you've got to know yourself and
you have to you have to have respect for yourself,
um and respect and you have to defend yourself enough
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to allow yourself to be yourself unapologetically and on camera.
That translates to on his performance, and that's her. That's
part of her method. It's developed quite a bit. But
I haven't, I haven't. We keep up and we talking,
but I haven't been to one of our classes. I
think too long. I think I should probably go back
just to learn. Yeah, well, I've watched all your projects
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and it seems it works, still working. You should be
very happy to know that. Yes, go check that out.
Thank you know for coming on the podcast. That was
so much fun, and everybody makes sure to check out
The Recruit, which is streaming now on Netflix. Bye guys,
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This is Paris. Hey guys, I'm back with another episode.
Today we haven't no Ah Sentennaio. We're gonna be talking
about his new show that's out on Netflix right now,
called The Recruit and so much more so let's do it.
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I know. Uh so as some say, congratulations, I'm loving
The Recruit on Netflix, Carter and I've been binging it.
It's so good. Thank you, like you killed it. Thank
you so much. I appreciate that. So how was this
project a lot of fun? It was cool? Um, it
was it was great. We shot in Montreal, so it
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was the opposite of what we're talking about. It was freezing,
but that's a better living hot I think, so, like
I preferred, I actually really liked it. Um, you just
get a jacket, you know, like if you get a jacket.
I didn't even have gloves, so I guess it wasn't
that cold that I thought it was necessary will get cloves.
But it was great. We went there, um, and it
was six months. We started in October and then we
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finished I think in like March. Uh ended up going
to Vienna for a couple of weeks and then and
then l A for a couple of days and Um,
it was definitely the longest I've ever been away from
home to work on something, and I actually I loved
it and I got to learn so not because like
I don't like being at home or I like didn't
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miss my friends and my family. There's just something about
it, I I think, being forced in that force, but like
being able to work in another country by yourself for
that much time, you just get to spend a lot
of time alone. Um, and I I don't know, it
was it was for me like a great experience all around. Yeah,
it's fun just to get away sometimes from everything and
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just be able to focus. I love Vienna too, It's beautiful. Yeah. Yeah.
I got to swim in the river. They have that
river that goes around the whole city. That was cool.
It was freezing cold again, like that that it's going
to be cold. That's like the the thesis statement of
this entire podcast. Temperature, whether it's hot or whether it's cold.
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Global warming is not hot. No, not at all. God
speaking of which, like the amount of rain and storms
that are hitting the entire country right now, I know,
the rain for like three days straight in l A
almost feels like crazy. I had to have someone come
at like ten thirty at night, two nights to go
to like unclogged like the drain things, because it was
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like literally that the pool was like almost about to overflow.
It was just like NonStop. Yeah, like my friends, some
of my friends houses like flooded. Yeah. I saw something
Ellen posted with like some weird thing like in the
background just going great. It just looked like something out
of a movie. Yeah. Yeah, the whole country is kind
of open arms about. It's pretty wild. But at least
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it's sunny today today I stopped raining. It's great. I
like the rain too though. Actually, like I think, for me,
I don't know why I've always loved there. I think
it's probably because I'm from Florida. Ye you're from right, Yeah,
I was born there. And uh, And it's it's such
a bipolar weather because it'll be super sunny out and
then there won't even be a cloud in the sky
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and it'll be raining. He'll be like, where is this
rain coming from? Sunshowers and then suddenly like torrential downpour.
It's it's it's like Miami. Yeah, I haven't spent a
lot of time in Miami. Um, obviously like living in Florida.
I started acting UM out of Miami and West Pond
Beach when I was younger, so I was there a
lot more when I was younger, doing commercials and modeling UM.
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But as I grew up, like I moved to l A.
And then when I go back, I just like being
my dad as a place in Delray Beach. So when
I go back, I just chilled del Ray. I love
it there. It's just chill. I go with my parents
a lot, and I don't know, I just think it's relaxing.
With Miami's fun to like go out, but I just
love going there and the restaurants and just the vibe
is just really laid back. I like it. Yeah, It's
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it's a cool place to do nothing Like I'm not
really like I don't really like going on like clubs
or bars even really so for me though, going back
to Florida, it's just a different place entirely. So even
like getting out of Miami and just being able to
like sit with my father like read a book or something.
It's really nice. Did you always were never into the
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club scene or any of that. No, I wasn'to it
when I was young. I was for sure into it
when I was younger, for especially out here in l A. Yeah,
it used to be so much fun. It used to
be really fun. I think, like when you're in it,
you love it, and then I kind of grew out
of it. I feel like after the pandemic too, it's
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just not the same. Really, the vibe is not the same.
I don't know. I mean people never danced in l
A when you were going out, Like I remember when
I would go out with my friends, Um, we would
like I mean, some people would be dancing. But it's
different if you're like in Miami at least, I think
people dancing like when I have a good time. But
in l A, people just like stand there and like
hold to drink and just kind of like look around.
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It's like a weird vibe. That's so true. And I
feel like social media has just changed the whole vibe.
Like back before that, l A was so much fun,
Like everyone would go out, no one was worried about
who was filming them, are going to come up? It
was like so sick. That must have been so tight, right,
Like there wasn't you don't have to worry about someone
(05:23):
pulling out a phone and like recording you like chugging
and half a bottle of vodka or something. You were
just like, I don't know. I mean, I don't know
what you did when you were in the club, but
like I feel like I feel like probably similar stuff
to like what me and my friends like used to do.
I mean when it's like you're just having a good
time and like partying. Oh my god, it was so
much fun. There was nothing like it. Like I feel
like people today I don't even know what fun is
(05:44):
in l A nightlife. Really, yeah, I probably I probably
would have no idea. I mean when I think the
last time that like I regularly went out, I was underage. Yes,
you know, by the time you turned come over, I'm serious.
I got so rude when I turned twenty one the
day before I turned funny, when I was like, oh,
I'm just not going to drink alcohol or do any
drugs anymore. And you haven't since No, that's I mean.
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They took a year off and then um and worked,
and then after a year I was like, Okay, I
think I can manage it. And then for a few
more years I was like, yeah, drink and whatever. And
then about a year ago I was like I think
I should take another break. So I've been. I've been
technically sober for like just over a year. It's cool,
it's good for me. Yeah, I like doing it because
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I get to at least focus on everything that I
want to do. And um, I feel accountable. Like if
I would show up to like today and I had
been hungover and like I just had like not given
it my all, then like afterwards, I'd be kicking myself,
like man, like if you hadn't drink whatever whatever. At
Least now I go if I suck, like I'm totally
accountable for why I sucked. You know, I can't blame
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anything else except for me. And it feels good to
like wake up like not hungover. It's so nice. Like
when I used to go out all the time, I
would just feel so the next day and just like
hating lives sometimes. And now I like I don't go
out anymore, Like I'm always working. I don't drink, so
I'm just feeling like amazing every morning and it's just
a different feeling. So do not not really drinking. I
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don't even I don't like the taste of it, Like
I think before I was just so traumatized from what
I went through at those schools, being abused and all
that that I was drowning the pain out and like
not wanting to think about it from getting out of
there at eighteen. For in a while, I just was
like so consumed with the nightlife and going out and
just not having to think about what happened to me.
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And I think that's like a huge coping mechanism with people. Absolutely,
like a pain killer, you just why you don't have
to think about it if you're having fun. I just
want to have fun and you just want to feel
you fork, because especially if you've been through something as dark,
you know, and twisted, then you've last thing you want
to do when you're younger is actually confront that. It's yeah,
(07:57):
it's I'm glad I finally did, though, but it took
me a while to process that. Can I ask like, like,
what was there someone or was it something that made
you just go I have to deal with this. I
can't not I can't go on not dealing with this
and confronting it. Was maybe you just like kept finding
yourself repeating patterns and we're like I'm done with this pattern.
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Or it was someone that was like you needed whatever. Um,
it really was something that when I got out of there,
I just made a promise to myself that I'm not
going to tell anyone about this, just pretend it never happened,
because they had really instilled that shame in me, making
me think like I was the bad one, even though
they were the ones that were being, you know, obviously
horrible people. I didn't talk about it anyone. None of
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my friends knew, and my family didn't know, my sister,
my best friends, like boyfriends, ever, no one knew about this.
This was like my deep dark secrets crazy because so
many bad things that happened to me, and when you're
a kid, you don't even know how to process things.
So I thought I was such a bad person because
all of these horrible things that these adults, you know,
who are supposed to be taking care of me were
doing to me. So I didn't trust anyone. I didn't
(09:02):
want to talk to anyone, Like I literally just locked
it out from my memory. And that's why I created
like this Paris Hilton character and like, oh, I'm like
this perfect life and I'm a dumb blonde and like
trying to just be the total opposite of what I
really was. And then during the documentary that I always
had these severe nightmares every night since I was a teenager,
(09:25):
since I'm sixteen, and they never went away, and it
was always the same thing, getting taken out of my bed, kidnapped,
brought to these places, and the whole dream. I'm just
all the same teachers are there, are the same things
are happening to me, and I'm just trying to escape.
And it was like a reaccuring nightmare every single night.
And finally I told the director about it because I'm like,
i can't sleep, I'm so tired. We're in Korea, I'm
(09:47):
on a press tour for my skin Caroline, I'm so dead.
And she's like why, I'm like this crazy nightmare and
I told her about it, and then she said, well,
why do you have those nightmares? I'm like, because it
happened to me. But when we were filming, and I go,
but let's just not talk about it, like we're not
putting this on and she's like, what do you mean.
Then she tried to push me, and then the next
morning she came to me with all the thousands and
(10:09):
thousands of articles and stories that this was still happening,
and it's become like a multibillion dollar industry. That's like
a hundred and fifty billion dollar industry or something, and
there's thousands of the schools and it's blown up into
this huge thing, and nobody was talking about it, and um,
she's like, you need to talk about it, and she's like,
I found the girls you went to school with all this.
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So it was really just crazy how it all happened.
But I'm so glad it did because I didn't even
know who I was until this film. It's crazy. That's insane.
And was that it wasn't really until the documentary that
you stopped even like drinking and stuff as well? Was
it after that all of that kind of came after?
Was that a little bit before as well? It wasn't
like I was drinking every second. I was just like
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going out and I'm so shy and I get such
social anxiety that I need to have like a shot
or like a glass of like I don't know, wine
or something, just to like not be so embarrassed and
not feel so weird walking in. And I don't know,
I'm just really like people wouldn't think that, but I'm
such like an introvert who pretends to be an actrovert
because it's part of my job, you have to write.
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So yeah, it's that's and that's so like crazy that
it um but like it's it's wonderful at the same
time that that was how this you were able to
talk about it. I mean, I I feel like I
have a very privileged upbringing, you know, like I had
a very safe childhood, and you know, preteen years and
(11:35):
early adolescent years into my twenties, i'd like to I mean, honestly,
the truth is all of the danger in my life
came from like my own decisions once I moved to
l a and like had enough money to take care
of myself. UM. But but like I read this book
called A Little Life UM and in it, one of
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the characters goes through unspeakable trauma UM in his early
life UM and refuses to talk about it. Like the
whole his whole mentality was I'm just going to pretend
that has never happened to me, that I'm not this
person that was impacted by these things, and I don't
want anyone to know. And it's it's wild, you know,
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I'm I'm sure there's a reason why the author gave
him that perspective and that that identity of of just
trying to create a complete barricade between anyone finding out
about them. Um, and like hearing you talk about it too,
like it's I can't imagine how many people have gone
through something where they feel the same way. It's been
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just well, that's been one of the best parts is
just the people who have reached out to me and
said thank you so much for telling your story. I've
been spoken to my parents and years because of this.
Now they finally believe me. People thought I was crazy
for all these years, and now I finally feel validated
for what I went through, and now to be changing
laws in seven states taking it to a federal level,
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so this is illegal everywhere. So everything I went through,
all the pain and all the trauma, would make it
worth it to me if I can stop it from
happening to other kids. And that's why I'm just going
to continue fighting for this. And thank you so much
for everything that you're doing with all of your charity
work and helping me raise awareness for this, and it
just means a lot. You're really cool, dude, O. Man,
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I appreciate you like letting letting us get involved. I mean,
I you know, I had no idea I had no
idea that this was going on until until we met
and started talking and I learned about what you were doing. UM,
And it's it's important. Is there is there anything that, like, um,
that anyone can do to like get involved and helped
push the agenda that you're like getting these laws passed
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and movement definitely just going and signing our petition to
shut down pro Volcanian School, which is a change dot
org and using the hashtag breaking code silence and I
See you Survivor. If you search on those you'll find
out so much that's going on. And if people I
also want to tell their stories, UM, like go to
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the website and we also have a podcast dedicated to
it that I produce called Trapped and Treatment, which is
all about the trouble team industry. And yeah, just as
much awareness as we can raise as possible is important
because there's literally been hundreds of children who have died
and it's just it's heartbreaking that kids are going in
(14:33):
there to be healed and instead they're being traumatized and killed. Yeah,
the fact that is still happening. It's just wild. Um,
Like you would think that, you know, with the the
Internet as it is in the way that stories travel
and how people can congregate and share their stories, something
like this doesn't even catch fire until one person, you know,
(14:54):
namely you, decides to go, I'm going to speak out
about this publicly. Um, you would think that it would
have been uncovered already. And it begs the question, I
wonder how many how many other things are going on
that that just haven't been uncovered yet because someone is
too afraid to come forward and say something. Oh yeah,
there's so many. They do scared tactics. They sue these
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people they call threatened their families. Like, I've heard so
many stories where people are just too scared to say anything.
And these are these are programs? Are they? Can you
tell me more? Like if that's okay, we can talk
about Yeah, of course. I love talking about it because
I think it's important. So thank you for caring. Yeah,
of course. And I'm just curious to um as someone
that's ignorant of the of of of the of the
(15:37):
programming in itself. So are these schools that kids are
sent to that have bad kids are thought to have
bad behavior, and they's so kind of like, I don't
a wilderness camp or is it. It's a mixture of everything.
Like I went to four of them because I kept
running away, and I went to Wilderness as well, which
was horrible. And that place is shut down because a
(15:58):
lot of kids died there. Um, and they're they're called
emotional growth schools. So they kind of called the parents
or they very much called the parents into thinking it's
an amazing place. If fake burushures and websites where their
kids are smiling, and they get stock photos of like
kids riding horses and like, you know, doing all these
(16:20):
amazing things, and you think that they're going to go
and be happy in this beautiful place. But when you
get there, it's like a cult. Like it's started as
a cult in the nineteen sixties, and it's all of
these people have like realized how profitable it is, so
they would go out and other people who would work
there would go and open their own. So now there's
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just like thousands of them that are all related, and
anytime there's a death, they'll change the name to another name.
And they're not really considered schools. They're not considered hospitals
are not. They're like in this kind of like gray area,
so they can get away with it legally because there's
not really laws, so they have children basic we have
like no human rights in these places. Oh my god,
(17:02):
they're they're not. It's a cult, is it is there
like a religious element to it usually or it's very weird.
It was called sinnan On. This was like in the sixties,
and it was not a religious like about like loving
God or anything like that. It was crazy just the
kind of rules that this guy would have and making.
He was kind of the like head and like, this
is the guy that, like I guess just you know,
(17:24):
the leader of the yes or whatever. And then he
opened c to which was the first place that I
went to, and standard Adina Mountains um and they got
shut down because kids were dying there as well. And
there's still hundreds of them open, or like a bunch
of them and thousands of them omans. Thank you for
opening my eyes to it and talking about because I
had no idea this is Paris. So speaking of families,
(17:54):
it seems like you and your family really close. I
see like you and your dad. You post like you
videos of him. Are you guys like best friends? We're
really close. Yeah, we we we have a really cool relationship.
I feel like it is of course father and son. Um.
But I grew up watching him. You know, he went
(18:15):
from being a pastor to opening his own coffee shop,
to going and being a lone consultant to working in
structured finance and private equity. And he didn't have a degree. Um.
And so I from birth until I was about sixteen
seventeen years old when I moved to when I was fifteen,
sivially until I was fifteen, I just watched this guy
(18:35):
go from you know, having no no money saved, which
is still better than most I think a lot of
families right around the planet, but um, having no money
in the in the savings account whatsoever, to actually like
saving money and then like moving us out of one
house into like a slightly bigger house in that house
to a bigger house, and you know, ultimately getting us
into a position where he was able to move me
(18:57):
and my mom to California while he was staying in
Florida with my sister. So I watched this guy just
work like a mother. And with that, UM, I think
I tried to adopt those qualities as well and and
make them a part of my every day. So when
we're together, it feels like like like a like a
(19:22):
bro relationship. We call each other dude, and like it's
not like yes, sir, it was never really like my
dad always treated me and my sister as adults and
as equals. Um. So we're needless to say we are
very close. Um. And I'm close with my mom as well,
and UM, I feel very fortunate. I think I'm a
lot closer with my my parents than than I ever
(19:45):
really thought that I was. And as I get older,
I only get closer and closer to them. Um. Yeah,
I feel like I also like growing up, I tried
to push away from them a lot because they were
so sweet to me. They did codd on me a lot.
And as I got older, I went, I do this myself.
I want to do it myself. And I definitely tried to. Um.
And you know, when you're when you're young and you're
(20:08):
in l A and you're working and you're making money
and you have your own security, you can you make
your choices, you live life on your terms, and and
I think I realized it took me a little bit
too long, I think to realize it, but I ultimately realized, like, no,
I need to keep my family close and I need
to I need to you know, start focusing on my
career more and um yeah, just kind of put my
(20:32):
energy into my family more than I that I had been. Yeah,
family really is everything, and you just realize just how
precious time is and everything. So I tried to spend
as much time with my parents as possible because before
I was just traveling so much. But now that I'm
home more and try to make the time, which is nice.
And you watch them get older too. My mom it
(20:55):
looks so hot and it it doesn't look but still like
it's scary to see like a lot of my friends
moms and people are getting so sick and it's just
like terrifying. Yeah it is. It is. It's like you're
you're looking at it in a very real way, like
for me, at very at least two, Like that's the
one thing in the back of my head that keeps
pushing me. I know, I always get so scared thinking
(21:17):
of that. Getting that call is like so terrifying to
think about. Yeah, it's it's subject forever. Yeah, it's what
it's really one of those dark things that we all
agreed to write. If you're you're born, then like you're
(21:39):
going to die. You have parents they are too. I'm
scared for me when I like, I don't want to
think about it. I'm just hoping it's like not nothing
Like I wanted to be something where it's like the
after life. Yeah, like it would be so boring. Imagine,
just like black darkness. You wouldn't be there, which is cool.
You wouldn't be there to be like this is boring.
(22:00):
That would suck. It really was like you're alive, but
nothing else, just all darkness something. Where's the club? Your
parents are like rolling over in their proverbial nothingness. They're like,
goddamn at the club again? I meant for me? Yeah,
(22:27):
I don't know. This is really There's this really great
book called Elsewhere. UM needs write down both these Elsewhere
and what was the other one too? A little A
Little Life, A Little Life Elsewhere. Yeah, I will. Elsewhere
is a little bit younger. It's like A Little Life
is um you know, like eight hundred pages and it's
(22:50):
an epic and it will rip your heart out, and
from what I understand, people even love it or they
hate it. I loved it. I tend to love books
of people when it's when it's so like when there's
such a polarity between whether people like or hate something,
I always tend to kind of like it. I don't
know why. But Elsewhere is like, it's it's it's a
it's definitely adult, but it's written through the perspective of
(23:10):
a fifteen year old girl that passes away um and
she goes to a place called Elsewhere where we age
in reverse until we're like seven days old, and then
they put you in a boat and they send you
back to Earth and you get born again to live
the next life. And then if you make it to
like seventy and you die, you go back to Elsewhere
and then you live from seventy back down. It's just
(23:32):
this constant yeah, exactly like that, exactly like that. But
it's it's really it's a wonderful book, and it kind
of it kind of touches on like, oh, hey, like
what if the place that we go to, if we
go somewhere after we die, it is the same place
that we were before we lived, And it kind of
creates an interesting like loop to like maybe this is
(23:56):
the this is the blip, and that's the that's home,
and this is the vacation. Um. Yeah, it's just like
a fun way to think about it. I love that. Obviously,
we don't know unless you know, unless you're not telling
us something. This is Paris. I'm gonna definitely send you
(24:20):
my book. It's coming out soon. I just wrote my
first autobiography. It's coming out March four. But it's really
really raw, real, like the whole story everything, it's from
the beginning. Yeah, that's wild. How long did it take
for you to to write that? Like a year and
(24:41):
a half down. Yeah, I go into everything. Look, stuff
I've never told anyone, got it. It's gotta be so
tough shared, I know. I'm like, does it feel good? Yeah?
It feels good because I feel that these are stories
that I wish that I had this book when I
was a teenager, that I could just read from someone's
(25:05):
experiences and I don't know, maybe learn things to do
and things not to do and just get that kind
of I don't know, advice, and also let people know
they're not alone. Just so many things that I've went
through that I've never discussed. I know that so many
other women have went through and people in general, and
what's really really powerful story. Yeah, I mean, look like
(25:29):
trauma abuse, you know, affects anyone no matter what they
where they come from, you know, you know where they
live and whatnot. And so I think, especially nowadays, more
than ever, I think kids are being raised by their
by their peers with the Internet. Right, Like, if a
kid wants to know, you know, the answer to whatever
(25:52):
question about puberty, and they have a weird relationship with
their parents, they're gonna ask their friends, or they're gonna
google it, or they're gonna find the answer on TikTok,
and and that's creating this crazy riff between parents and
kids that already existed naturally, right, and even now it's
even bigger and bigger. And so having a source material
(26:12):
where a kid can go and read and maybe identify
with some things that they would never want to talk
to their parents about because if they're ashamed, they don't
want to talk to their friends about for the same
reason or or for any reason that they don't want
to talk about it to be able to, I think
when you find other people that have been through something
similar or have similar thoughts as you, you just don't
feel as alone like you're saying, And it's just important
(26:34):
for people to communicate and communicate honestly. I think there's
ever a disagreement, it's usually because someone isn't communicating the
right way or holding space for another person's opinion. Um,
And the power of just honest communication is overwhelming if
we allow it to be present in any sort of
(26:54):
situation or our day to day life. So I think
that's really really sick that you're doing an autobiography. It's like,
and it's not easy to do. No, definitely one of
the hardest things I've ever done. Do you have any testimonies?
Do you have any people in there that are like, oh,
I was there, Paris was wild in New York. Yeah,
she interviewed some people, so we got all the stories.
(27:15):
It's like it will make you laugh, you'll cry, You'll
be like, oh my god, this is like so many
My life has been so crazy, very full life. I
can imagine it must be. So when did you your family?
You said New York. So you guys were in New
York for a while and then you moved to l A.
I was born in New York and then moved to
l A. When I was like three, then lived in
(27:36):
l A till fifteen, and then moved to New York
until sixteen, and then moved to those crazy schools until eighteen,
and then I was just after that I wanted to
move to l A. So I moved l A eighteen
and yeah, yeah, not bad, Len. I mean I fell
(28:02):
in love with l A because there's so much to
do here. And I think at first you go if
you're in the nightlife, then you're like, Okay, I'll just
go to like this club or this club or this
thing or that this house. I think house parties was
really big for me, like when I was younger. Was
it the same for you? I think, like l Ale
thing about l A. Maybe I don't know what the
vibe is in New York because I definitely don't. Haven't
(28:23):
spent a lot of time there. I didn't grow up there.
But in l A, we would call them kickbacks. You know,
someone's parents are out of town and you just kick
it at the house. What we used to do religiously,
which was ridiculous, was we would put YouTube on the
TV and just shut our brains down and become zombies
for hours and hours and hours. I couldn't believe. I
look back and I've probably spent like a hundred hours
(28:44):
just looking at it YouTube TV and TV with YouTube though,
just such a waste of time. Like my parties are
definitely different than that. I called it pregaming and after
parties and after after by. I feel like for me,
if I ever pregame half the time, it ended up
(29:07):
with me just like staying home and just being way
too drunk to go out. I would never really had
good like like I never really had a stopping point.
It's always like let's go out and so time, thank god,
so nuts, so nuts. But it is I don't know.
I think for me as I get older, I want to, um,
(29:30):
I want to Just it's hard, right because there's if
you have a lot of success, like early on in
your life and you kind of go Like for me,
I guess when I reflect, I was eight I wanted
to be on Disney Channel. When I was fifteen, I
made her on Disney Channel, and then I was like, well,
I would like to be on a show as a
series regular. And then when I was eighteen I did that, um,
(29:52):
and then I was twenty one trying to reflect, and
I was like, well, I guess I want to be
in like movies and and like all the Boys came
out and so by the time I was I love
those movies that there's special, there's something special, so that
now you're like the teen heartthrob icon. I think I
(30:15):
think it was, you know, because we will always be.
But now you're like, like, I don't know, Like that's
the question, right, The question is like what now? And
I guess that's kind of like, yeah, what I was
getting it, thank you, you're killing it. But that's the
(30:35):
question is as I get older, like what what stories
do we want to tell? What do we want to
do that that not just entertains people, because hell yeah, yeah,
Like I want to entertain people, want people to go
and watch the stories that we're creating and be like,
oh my god, like that was hilarious or so real,
(30:56):
so honest, so great, um, but also something that shows
the world as it is today. Like I would like
to start creating things that when people look back on
them in twenty years, they can go, yeah, that's what
it was, like, like that's that's exactly what it was.
And I think that's what some of the greatest artists
of the human race have been able to do is
(31:16):
accurately portray the times. Um. Yeah. So that's kind of
what I've been focusing on over the last four months, right,
like when it comes to not just like reading things,
but developing things. Um yeah. I started a production company
with one of my best friends and Zoe. What's the
(31:38):
name of that. It's called Arkham Productions. It's it's kind
of it's it sounds like Arkham Asylum, but it's actually not. Um,
although we are all crazy, so it does kind of
makes sense. Um. But yeah, and uh, it has a
has a different meaning, but we don't have to go
into it, um. And we're just developing our slate now.
(32:02):
And it's cool. It's cool to be on the other
end of it, where you go, what stories do we
want to tell? What are we genuinely really really excited
about it? How can we do it with people? So
any anyway, I don't know, I don't know why I
went on this tangent, but I but this is the
end of it. So I think it's cool that you're
like in front of the camera but now also getting
(32:24):
behind and like taking control. And I read some interview
where you just produced the recruit and that you would
go up to people on set and be like, what
can I do to like help make it better on set?
And I thought that was so thoughtful and sweet. Someone
was talking, so it's airing out my action. No, that's cool. Thanks.
(32:46):
Whoever said that? Maybe Amelia Amelia was saying that. Laura
was saying that it's a lie. I just it's a
total light. No, I don't know it was. It was
really an educational experience to be an EP on the recruit.
I mean to be able to be in on conversations
(33:07):
and meetings that they're having about production design and and
pre production location scouting, text like learning the politics of
of working with a city, UM, whether it's Vienna or
whether it's Montreal to get something made, UM, dealing with
scheduling and rescheduling and re rescheduling and UM working with
(33:29):
you know, different actors and getting them into town and
out of town at the right time, and then getting
episodes delivered and changing those There's so much that I
got to just bear witness too that I had never
been a part of before, and for me, it was
just highly educational UM and I really appreciate Alexei Um
Alexei Holly who's our showrunner and are the writer of
(33:50):
the show. Also an ep um for allowing me and
those conversations into and to listen and learn underneath them,
because I'm going to take it forward without a doubt um,
And that's really what I'm down for. Like, I'm just
down to learn more about it. I want to. I
I've been working since I was eight, But I also
feel like I also feel like I got success really fast,
(34:18):
even though it was a long time since I was
eight to you know now to call it twenty two
it's all the boys. It felt fast. It felt like
I I didn't really earn it. I feel like it
was kind of just given to me, even though I
worked really hard for it. Still feels that way. And
so I want to do justice to the art form
(34:39):
and I want to become a student of it because
I never really got to study it. I kind of
just was working and I got all my knowledge from
experience of being on a set, which is incredibly valuable,
arguably as if not more valuable, because you can learn
things in a class, but until you go to law school,
until you're in the courtroom, maybe you don't really know
what you're doing. Right. You know how to take the stand,
(35:00):
if that's even the right term, which I should know,
but I don't. Um So, anyway, I guess that's that's
where I'm at. I'm in a phase where I just
want to learn and and and yeah and feel good
about what I'm doing. Do you do acting classes? I
used to? I don't. I don't do them anymore. I've
been thinking about going back, though. I went to a couple.
I hated it, really. I just hate when they do
(35:20):
that thing, the technique. We are like sitting in the
chair and you're staring at each other's eyes and you
don't even know the person and you're just like going
back and forth like yes, I'm like literally looking at
the person like this is I never want to come
here again. I think that's called Meisner technique. Technique like
you're sitting, I'm sitting. I see you sitting. So when
(35:45):
I went to theater school, I think we did like
one class on that. I did the theater school in
middle school a really long time ago. It's interesting there's
so many different techniques to acting. UM I learned from
someone called Ceremony Now, and she developed her own method
called the more Now method. UM and it changed my life.
(36:07):
It was I really attribute you know, any little bit
that I know about acting from from her more now
method m O R N E L L method. She's
badass and she's cool too, Like she's not going to
be in there and try to get you to feel
something you don't feel. Her whole thing is like, we
(36:29):
learned how to act every day, like like I identify
with what you said when you said that you feel
like you're an introvert that learned to be an extrovert
like that, We just learned to act, We learned how
to survive, we learned how to be in front of
people a certain way. Um. And her whole thing is, well,
let's figure out how you act in your day to
day life, and let's figure out how much of that
is you, and how much of that is taught. And
(36:51):
then let's just take away the filter. Let's take away
that and get to the truest version of you and
then we'll start from there. And it it creates this
really natural sense of you've got to know yourself and
you have to you have to have respect for yourself,
um and respect and you have to defend yourself enough
(37:11):
to allow yourself to be yourself unapologetically and on camera.
That translates to on his performance, and that's her. That's
part of her method. It's developed quite a bit. But
I haven't, I haven't. We keep up and we talking,
but I haven't been to one of our classes. I
think too long. I think I should probably go back
just to learn. Yeah, well, I've watched all your projects
(37:36):
and it seems it works, still working. You should be
very happy to know that. Yes, go check that out.
Thank you know for coming on the podcast. That was
so much fun, and everybody makes sure to check out
The Recruit, which is streaming now on Netflix. Bye guys,
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