August 18, 2022 • 49 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Bloom on Today's brand new Bang and I Am Rappaport
Stereo podcast. You asked for it, you got it. Today's
I Am Rappaport Stereo podcast is all housewife everything, All
housewife everything, with a special guest and one of the
only people who I know I could deep dive with,
my guy, Norman Baker. Storman Norman Baker television producer extraordinaire.
(00:37):
I met him while I was guest hosting The Wendy
Williams Show. He became a reluctant on air personality because
of his knowledge, his ship talking, and his love of
all things housewives and gossip. He's a great guy, a
great guest to break down all things housewives. Coming up next,
(00:58):
my friend Storman Norman Baker. We're talking Real Housewives of Atlanta,
Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, and real Housewives of everywhere.
Miles Jordan Ak the Bleach Brothers. Start this puppy over
with something real nice. Start this puppy over something real, proper,
But most importantly, start this I Am wrapp Reports Stereo
podcast off with something real, funky and real loud. This
(01:21):
is the I Am Wrapping Port Stereo podcast. All right,
I Am Wrapp Reports stereo podcast. Very very exciting for me.
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I've been talking about it. I don't get to deep dive.
I don't get to really really go in the deep
deep waters of the ocean about reality TV, specifically all
things Bravo, all things Real Housewives. So I had to
bring in an expert who you get to hear from
a little bit. But I know he's got so many
(02:01):
more scorching hot opinions on all things Housewives. My guy
Storm and Norman Baker, one of the producers from the
Wendy Show, one of the producers from the upcoming Sherry
Shepherd Show who was an expert on all things gossip,
all things reality TV, Storman Norman, how are you, my friend,
(02:23):
Michael Rappapor, what's going on? How are you? Everything is good,
Everything is good. The summer. You know, we got a
couple more weeks of the summer. How's your summer been. Uh,
it's been great. I don't remember most of it. It's
been kind of like partying and drinking and you know,
avoiding viruses and stuff. Yeah, they're switching. They're coming up
(02:44):
with all sorts of virus every day. There's a new
virus every day. Every week there's a new virus, it's
something new before we get into the housewives and all
that stuff. And I'm sure you get asked this a lot,
and I'm sure it's probably hard to answer, um, but
how did you wind up even becoming the producer and
also an on air personality for the Wendy Williams Show?
(03:04):
Like I know, producer came first, and then I'm imagining
the Wendy you know be coming on air. We was
sort of organic. But just break that down for people
because people always ask me, how do I get into TV?
How do I do this? You know, just break down
your sort of path to wind up on the Wendy
Show and now what you're doing now my Recks Riches story. Yes,
(03:25):
basically got off the bus from Chicago, and uh I
really didn't know anybody in this business, like nobody, so
and it's basically who you know, not what you know
kind of thing. But I knew nobody, and I was
just kind of like determined to make it. And I
sent my resume to like a trillion like production companies,
(03:47):
and I got a job as the receptionists at the
Ananda Lewis Show. And uh I was a receptionist, and
then from there I just kind of like worked my
way up and it's a lot of hard work, and
I eventually became one of the producers over at Wendy
and her Hot Topics segment, and a lot of our
like backstage conversations just kind of like organically started to
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like spill out on air because this was her floor.
Like I was on the set with her, and I
really was just supposed to be behind the scenes, but
you know, she thought like what I said was funny,
and a lot of times she like put me on
the spot, which was I think a little like entertaining
for her. So you never had any aspirations of being
in front of the camera. You always wanted to do
(04:32):
something behind the scenes. No, I was a pretty I
just wanted to be a producer when you came from Chicago.
What was a producer in your head? Like, what was that?
I don't even think I know. I just wanted to
be like let in the building and just kind of
like work in TV. I just wanted to like be
a partner. So I don't really I think I had
any sort of aspiration. I don't think I even knew
(04:55):
what I wanted to do. Really, I just wanted to
be involved in TV because I'm a huge, like pop
culture but addict, so I just wanted to like be
a part of it. Well, yeah, I know you're a
huge pop culture fanatic. That's why you're so good. I
mean when I was guest hosting the show, I mean
you specifically for me, I mean you made I mean
you're like, I don't know, it's like a picture and
(05:15):
a catcher, like throwing it back and forth, and you know,
you know your stuff so good, and you just know
the landscape and you know what to say, what not
to say, how to push it, not to push it
because the daytime TV is not like a podcast. On
a podcast, you can say fox shit, fuck shit. Um
you know and wait, I didn't even know you said.
I never heard you say that before. It bos it
(05:38):
was it was it crazy, you know, with the with
the popularity of the Wendy Show, you know, starting to
get recognized because I'm sure you listen just from the
Wendy Show. You know there's people that you know and
I only did it just a few times. Was it
crazy for you? Because I'm sure you get recognized still
when people would see you on the shoet. Was it
bugged out for you like that you became you know
sort of A yeah, it's still crazy. I can't like
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it's funny that, like I go to the grocery store
and people are like, hey, where do I know you're
from a lot of the time they think like they
went to high school with me or something, But yeah,
a lot of the times people are like, hey, you're
from Wendy. How are you driving? Is always the funniest
and it's always good. Having havn't t say on your
side is always a good thing. Having you know, t
(06:24):
s A people you know, like, you know, be happy
to see you because you know, if they're not in
a good mood, you could wind up getting jammed up
and frist and bag search and all that. All right,
you said one of the reasons why you got into
television a fresho off the bus for Chicago is because
you're a pop culture expert. I want to talk How's
Wives with you? But before I talk How's Wives with you,
(06:45):
there was breaking news and I have d M you
we have text. Since there's been a handful of breaking
news things that have happened that I'm like, let's break
into the studio go live and figure it out. First
of all, there's two topics. Kevin Federline, who should just
keep his mouth shut? Kay Fed? Last week, we all
know that Britney Spears has been through the ringer. We
(07:05):
all know that Britney Spears, you know, is sensitive. This
guy last week he really pissed me off. Because if
you have kids, you've been in a relationship. Everybody has
stuff with their kids. Kevin Federline kay Fed posted videos
last week of Brittany arguing with her kids. Now, every
(07:26):
parent argues with their kids, and anybody, you know, whether
it's my parents, if there's videos taken out of context
and posted, would look crazy, whether it was me as
a father, me with my father, or somebody else. And
I just thought it was just for somebody who's been
through what she's been through. Britney Spears. I just thought
it was some real sucker shit that he did that
to his you know, whether they get along not get along,
(07:47):
you know, to do that to her and to you know,
his baby mama after all these years, what did you
think of that? I think he's been taking the high
road for so long by like keeping quiet. I really
don't know why he stooped so low to release that
those videos. It was pretty bad. But you know, I mean,
(08:09):
I guess maybe he was pushed to it because she
kind of like lashed out his parents, hag and she
lashed out at the boys. Oh did she did? She
said something about his parenting. Yeah, Like I feel like
she said something about him being a father and uh,
the boys being like not coming to her wedding and
not being a part of her life. And so I
(08:29):
think she like, you know, lashed out, and so he
lashed back. Yeah, it's messy. And then and the other
one that I you actually sent it to me because
I was doing something. The other one that damn near
broke the internet was Pistol Pete Davidson and Kim Kardashian
the nine months relationship that I mean, like you said
(08:52):
to me, we just have to thank them because they
gave us nine months of pleasure, pain, joy, gossip and
all that stuff off. What is your take on pistol Pete?
Do you have any predictions on who who winds up
being with next? Do you have any predictions on who
Kim will be with next? And do you think that
Kim and Kanye will eventually get back together, break it
(09:13):
all down, Storm and Norman Baker, Kim and Kanye, I
think they're done. I think she's done with Kanye forever.
I don't see them reuniting. But I do predict she's
gonna go back black. I feel like, you know, she's
got the history, She's got Redgy Bush, she's got ray J,
the great Kanye West, and then she went with Pete.
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David said, But I think that was just like a
nine month lift. I think she'll come back over. Where
can she go from here? Like as far as like
you know, she's getting she's forty years old, like these
basketball players, the ones currently playing NFL players and these
guys are their kids. Not that she cares, but where
where does she go? Where does she swim in the
pool here? Like how do you find somebody that sort
(09:58):
of age approp Not that she cares about age, but
where do you think you know she goes? Is gonna
be an athlete and actor? Is gonna be some unknown
baker because you know that won't work, That will never work.
You know that might work for a short period of time,
Like where where does she go? Right? I think she's
gonna go the activist route? You know she wants to
be like a political activist, so I think maybe she
(10:21):
will get with like a Van Jones or like a
I don't know, but Kyrie Sellers. I don't even know
if he's with anybody. But you know, I think she's
gonna get with like a politician or some sort of activists.
That's what I see her doing next. You think she's
done with the athletes. I think the athletes are over.
And what about Pistol Pete Davidson, because you know they're
(10:43):
taking bets on who Pistol Pete. You know, like there's
a thing in Vegas, like you know with Kim there's
like every athlete they're like, you know, they mentioned your
man Van Jones. I mean, there's everybody's up there, Kyrie Irving,
Kevin Durant. They're mentioning James Harden, who was already with Chloe.
I mean, where does I mean Pistol Pete the world
is his always or at this point right, I feel
like he's gonna go old old. I feel like he's
(11:05):
gonna be like cougar territory, like fifties, Like he's gonna
go with somebody much like house life style, Like it's
gonna be like a Diana Jenkins ash situation. Right, Okay,
all right, you gonna find a really rich woman who's
in her fifties. And that's my prediction. All right, all right,
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I'm gonna hold you to it because it's I mean,
the whole thing is crazy. And you know, I mean,
like you said, thank you for your service. It was
just all we could say. We could complain, we could
talk all we want, but at the end of the day,
especially you know in our field, it's like just salute
It's just like you gotta salute him. The skate Skeet
Davidson videos, and I mean it was incredible. It was incredible, crazy,
(11:53):
Like when we look back on that twenty years, thirty years,
like and they go over like the year of two,
Like when we see that, like, we will have smiles
on our face. It will bring back such memories and
emotions that we had because that ship was like what's
happening here? Uh huh? And it was so quick that
I do believe in twenty years we're going to be like,
remember Pete Davidson, right, We'll have totally forgotten about it.
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(13:35):
want to start with the housewives. I want to start
with Atlanta, the Real Housewives of Atlanta. Then we'll go
into um, the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, and then
I want to talk about Dorinda. I want to talk
about blue Stone Manner. And then I want to ask
you your top five have have you You're up to
speed on Atlanta? Correct? I've seen I'm up to speed
(13:57):
on everything. Even Dubai, which you know I'm just on.
But you know, what is your take on Dubai? What
is your first what is your good? It's just it's
just starting out. We don't have a table flip moment yet,
you know, like they're just they're new. We gotta give
them some time. I think they're gonna get there. Okay, Okay,
I do too, I do too. You know I'm watching.
(14:18):
You know, my standards are so high, and you know,
when there's other shows on that are really, you know,
like going full throttle, like Atlanta, you compare them. It's
like for me, it's like teams and athletes. You compare them, like, well,
they're not as good. This is just a rookie show,
all right. But with Atlanta Marlowe, who I know, I
was happy she got a peach. And I'm on record
(14:39):
saying I don't want my housewives buttoned up nice. We
want them messy. But when they get messy, we turn
on them. What before I get into specific to what
is your take our Marlowe's season, her first official season
of being a Real Housewives of Atlanta. She got her,
she got her peach. Do you think they should rescind her? Peach.
(14:59):
Do we should we take a peachback? What did they
give her a rotten peach? Where are we at on?
On My girl, Marlowe, I'm gonna make you get in
trouble here, not me. I'm not gonna be getting in
trouble this one. No, I listen. I love Marlo like
I love Marlo. I'm finally I'm happy she finally got
that peach. But she's doing a lot of like pots
stirring that like we see it happening, and she's like
(15:22):
attacking people. We love she attacking? Can you attacking the
Great Candy Burus? Who attacks Candy? So attacking time? It's
just like it was too much. So I think she
can rein it in a little bit. But I do
(15:42):
like her. I want to keep I want her to
stay on the show. Do you think that the Great
Candy Burris is worldwide? Because she said, she said to her,
you're only known in Atlanta. She said to her, you
are only known in Atlanta, And they responded, bitch, I'm worldwide.
She said, bitch on worldwide. Yeah, that gave us like
a catch for the season. Is good with the catchphrasers
(16:05):
Kenny is really good? And then she went after poor Todd.
I mean God, for me, like Todd's been through with
the mom who's chilled on him. They have kids, like
they're doing their thing, even though I don't agree with
you know how they're doing um, you know, their financial planning.
God forbid something happens to them. You know, everybody's got
to figure that out for themselves. I have no problem
(16:26):
with Yeah, he's like, you know, if you pass, fuck it,
the party's over, the rent's not getting paid, the car
payments that you're gonna be ready to fend for yourself.
Those kids are like kids. Right, layoff Todd, Right, layoff Todd.
And do you think, like what do you think of
(16:47):
the Kenyan Marlowe beef and like what is your take
on Kenny at this point? Because for me, there's been
a little bit of posturing. You said the word ponsturing.
You know, for me, Keny has like been a little
bit lazy. I feel like she's hazing Sonia, who's figuring
out she's a rookie. I mean she's a rookie in
the real house rights of Atlanta, Like that's not the
place you want to be a rookie at. Like they
should have some sort of training program. Uh, opposite women
(17:11):
like Terra and Marlowe and Drew who's tough, you know,
and Kennya is the toughest housewife of all time. Like
you don't want to go against her, but I do believe,
you know, Kenya, we'll get into my my top five later,
but you know, ken you just up there for me. Uh.
I do think she's really really smart about kind of
(17:33):
like pulling back the season and not being like such
a monster. She's pulling back and kind of like showing
like a softer side. She's actually pretty likable, I agree,
really funny and like all the ladies seem to like
her more than they usually do, so I think she's
doing a smart job. I actually think she's like killing
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it this year. I agree with you, she is more likable.
She is funny her whole, like you know, Jamaican mc thing.
I thought it was funny on the boat, and she
you know, normally will be one uh you know moment
each season where she's a little bit more vulnerable, but
she's definitely, you know, you know, throughout the season been
more vulnerable. And I feel like you're right, she is.
This is the most well rounded likable season, and I
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don't think she's She hasn't done anything like crazy Kenya
moments so far. No, not at all, except I did.
I really loved saying drunk Kenya. That was like I
didn't know this Kenya existing. That was a whole new Kenya.
Like she did like a Sonja Morgan, like I thought
she had, like you know, like she had like maybe
dung her head or something like she literally almost like
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she hit the ground and that wasn't like a prat fall,
like she bust her ass. I applaud her for that,
and she counts Luna and the bushes and she popped
up like a true champion. Do do you miss Porsche?
How much you have to miss Porsche? And how much
do you miss her? I really really miss pa. I
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feel like we're missing something this year. I'm really liking it.
Don't get me wrong, I really like it, But we're
missing Porsta and Cynthia like I didn't know we missed
them so much. But I feel like we really need
like Porscha back. We need Porsche, we need her family,
we need her mom, we need her rich African entrepreneur
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fiance right right, because Porsche just when Porce's life gotten Nessy,
we like we lose her. Yeah, it's not right if
you're going back to more bets. If you were a
betting man and you had to bet the house and
the home, would you say, Porsche, will you be back
on the Real Housewives of Atlanta? Yeah, one thousand percent.
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She's coming back. It's like the Mafia. Nobody ever really
truly leaves. You always come back. Always. Even the great
Bethany Frankel billion dollars, she still came back. And I
think Bethany will be back. I unfortunately, Norman, as much
as I would love Bethany to be back, I don't
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see it happening. And and it hurts me to say that.
I just do not see it happening with these new shows. Um,
you know you hear all these rumors. I know you
see the rumors just like I do. They get your
heart racing and skipping. But I feel like Bethany, you know,
with this new Real Housewives, a complete revamp of the
Real Housewives, and then whatever they're calling the Real Housewives
like o G Show or the Real Housewives Legacy show,
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She's not gonna be on there. I don't st don't
think she's gonna do it. I mean she should do it.
She you know, I love her. She's on Instagram talking ship.
I feel like she needs to do it, like I
feel like her, d NA like her, like her like
I don't want to quote R. Kelly, but her body
is calling for her to be on the housewide. But
I just don't think she's gonna do it. Her mind
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is telling her no, Bethany, I do think to be
down the road still retired, like just come for the launch,
do like three episodes, like just you know, like for
old times sakes. I mean she knows the show. I
don't know. Maybe I just I don't think it's gonna happen.
I take her on a like those All Star shows,
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the Ultimate Girls strip shows. I would take her on that.
I'll take her wherever we can get her. Um charay again,
betting Man, are we ever gonna see she by Shy?
Are we ever gonna be seeing like the Matts? I
don't even know what it is like because it dresses
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fourteen seasons of this show. This is season fourteen, and
she's been on since season one talking about she by
Srey and we have yet to see anything. I guess
maybe we're being like set up for maybe some big
reveal at the end of the season. Maybe possibly, but
if you're talking about it this much, because I went
(21:57):
to the website and I got like four or four
bound like it's still like nothing is there, nothing is there.
So you know, I'm hoping. I wish for nothing but
the best, as you would say, But damn man. I mean,
we've seen people come on Real Housewives of Everywhere and
create I mean, we got three week candles, two week candles.
(22:19):
We got people doing shoe companies, cell phones, you know,
clothing lines, coffee makers, coffee beans, couches home, and we
got dropped. I mean, fucking Drew's gotta I don't even
know what that is. Drew's got a fitness line. She's
giving us like slat into the Eldies tapes and we
(22:40):
can't get sheet by Charay the Great I mean, and
she's back, I mean, and and how devastating was it
to see Chay who we knew this was gonna go bad,
We just didn't think it would go bad in front
of our eyes. When she was sitting there in Philadelphia,
illadelf for like two hours in the cold, you know,
(23:01):
she was like I'm gonna stay on with the furs on,
dressed to the nines, looking fantastic with the Mary J.
Blange boots on, and never showed up. Never showed up.
But I hear she's dating another guy from Love and
Marriage Huntsville, and I think this guy, from what I understand,
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it's like bad news. He's got like baby Mama drama
right now. So I don't know. I don't know. I
can't make any judgments, but you know, everybody is not
happy about this. She's one of the most beloved housewives
because she's so damn funny, and I don't know, like
as much ship as she talks, there's something sweet about Saray.
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There's a sweetness about Sharai, and everybody's rooting for Shore.
Like no one doesn't like Charay. We're all protective of her,
but like, for some weird reason, I just want the
best of her. And rown like standing by him when
he was in prison for I forget what it is,
like eight years or so, and then he gets out
(24:08):
and then he stands you up. It's not right at
like a typhoo restaurant in Philly, and you know, like
it early winter like that, I don't know what kind
of what the hell they were like serving oysters. I
don't know what that spot was, right, and then she's
just waiting by the face time and it was. It
was brutal. It was brutal, and you know all the
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house was because we become so familiar with them, like, uh, Candy,
you know, her cry you know, becomes a voice crack Kenya.
You know, her pain gets so deep. She's you know,
when she's genuinely said, she doesn't really shed tears and
but but you could feel her pain comes out. But yeah,
you see it's real. And like seeing Charay cry like
it hurt me. Oh because she's like, you know, she's
(24:52):
got an armor. She's tough. And to see her like
breakdown over Tyrone from prison from a halfway house in Philly, Damn.
That was. And finally Snya like real quick, you know,
Sanya has been through the ringers. She's finding her way.
She's definitely sweet. Do you think ultimately she's cut out?
Does she have the disposition to be a real house
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or is she too nice? She's too nice, but I
think she's hanging in there. She's definitely tough. Actually, I
really like her. I want to get to know her more.
But I feel like she's picking fights that like she
doesn't know how to pick her battles. So, you know,
just she needs to chill out a little bit. Don't
try to fight Kenya. No, Like, stay away from Kenya.
(25:40):
Stay away from Kenya. You do you don't want that smoke.
That's not smoke you want? Yeah, stick through? Maybe, right,
ken Right, you're right, you're right, yeah, because I like
her too. Um, It's funny, you know, for me, when
I got to interview the women on the show, it's
like they become human and not just characters on their show.
(26:02):
But when I got to interview them on Wendy and
you meet them, it's almost like, I don't know, it
softens me from my opinions because I was like, oh,
she's so sweet, Like you get a different sense of
them when they're in three Reality for You podcast, pivoting
(26:30):
to the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, which is just
like I was just gonna say that Erica Jane cans
to show and I had like a tough stance with Erica.
Break it down show softened me up. I'm like, oh,
maybe she is like Norman. I want you to break
down Erica Jane the last two seasons. Where are you
(26:51):
at with her? What is your take on Erica Jane,
And specifically before you jump into it, specifically, if you
hear her say good dick again, will you vomit in
your mouth? Because when she kept saying good dick, I'm
getting dick, I was like, and I'm an Erica fan,
I was like, I can't hear this anymore, Like you're
making me sick to my stomach here. And also, to
(27:14):
be honest, I don't believe she's getting a good dick,
Like I don't believe it's actually happening. I feel like
I don't trust it. I feel like if she was,
we'd see this gentleman, we would like know who he was,
we know his name. But I just don't believe that
that's happening. Not for one, you don't think there's like
late night creeps where she's getting good dick. To quote her,
(27:36):
that's not me saying I'm quoting herself. Okay. I think
maybe she's too this is she's too famous to like
have like good anonymous dick. I feel like if she
had a good dick, we know who it was, right
Because we know at this point in the world, like you,
especially when she's putting out there, somebody's gonna see. You know.
(27:59):
We say, like our hose wives, they need to be
careful about flowing their success and all that stuff. Like Erica,
you need to be careful putting that out there because
there's gonna be somebody who's gonna be like, oh, you're
getting all this good. We're gonna find Mr. Good Dick
out here. We're gonna find who this guy here is
here that's getting you. The sun is like in the
bushes right now, with like a long leans camera. Good dick,
(28:20):
bad dick, or no dick at all. We've differentiated with
our opinions of Erica. What is your take on Erica
the last couple of years? What is your take on
her up to speed so far in this season? Erica? Erica, Erica,
She's a She's giving us a lot this season and
last season, like she's become a big part of the show.
(28:41):
Um Now, I know I've kind of like had my
doubts about her, you know her in a sense in
the situation, but at this point I don't even care anymore.
Like I just she's so entertaining and she's so fun
that I feel like it's like not an is you anymore?
Like we don't even care, Like I just want to
(29:02):
see her like get drunk and like cursed children out,
because like literally cursing children out. I know, I feel
like let her go just for that a log, just
for what she's brought to us. Yeah, like with with
(29:22):
your housewife, with with your housewife friends and you know
social media again, you know, Like for me, it's like
whether it's Marlow, whether it's you know, Lisa Wren, or
whether it's Teresa, whether it's Erica, we need these people messy,
We need the bad we need we otherwise we have
no show. I mean, they are what makes the show.
(29:43):
They drive other people crazy, They drive us as fans crazy,
And I you know, people, you know, when I'm like
I love Erica on the you know, when I when
I sort of have appreciated her public people get they
get angry at me, like they get piste off of
me be you know, And I know her stuff was
more serious, but we need messy housewives otherwise what do
(30:04):
we have exactly? And I'm not excusing what happens because
I don't we don't know what happened. We don't know,
So in the meantime. In the meantime, let's just enjoy
what we have in the meat. I think that's a
good perspective to have. Yeah, she's ordering hot tea and
the guy's like, we don't have hot tastes, Like, give
(30:24):
me a whiskey. But she read from hot tea to whiskey.
She didn't a hot tea. Maybe a coffee, maybe some
water with lemon, maybe a hot tea like like okay,
maybe a white rose. She was hot tea. I'll take whiskey. Man.
It's just great this year. Um. Another person whose whole
(30:47):
sort of storyline and sort of identity has changed a
lot is Sutton. She's in the fucking mix. She's in
there with Diana, she's in there with Erica. She got
a tongue lashing from Lisa Arena Um, which was a
great Li Sarendom moment, a great Lisarendom moment. That Elton
John charity situation is just I mean that things I
think two or three seasons ago. Yeah, but that just
(31:11):
keeps happening. Whatever your take on her pain tasting, Uh, Sutton, Yes,
I love Sutton. She's great. Sudden is amazing. I didn't
see it coming because when we first met her, she
wasn't good and we didn't like her, and she was
like I kind of wanted her off the show. But
something clicked, something changed, and she's incredible, one of the
(31:34):
all time greats. Now she really, she really is good. Guys.
I agree, I agree, like her confessionals are great. You know,
she argues she's messy as ship. I mean, she is
a fucking miss. It gives us these crazy fashions with
backwards texedos, buttons are in the back, tore. I mean,
(31:55):
she's been really, really, really good. She's not scared. She'll
mix it up, like I think something up, and you're right.
I think when she had the whole beef with Erica,
I think it's sort of gasped her up, Like she's like, well,
if I could go against Erica, I could go against anybody.
Uh huh. It's just not the makings of her fridge
because she hates the refrigerator. I'm sure next season she's
(32:18):
gonna have some sort of ridiculous fridge made in like
Berlin or Germany or or one of a kind customer.
Every time we see her kitchen, she's like, don't look
at the fridge. Don't look at the fridge, right, it's
just so embarrassed by it. Don't worry, We don't judge
you a Sutton. What do you think of Garcel? Is
Garcel just there to be Sutton's bodyguard? Because I know
(32:40):
Garcella in real life, but I feel like Garcella, like,
you know, like all she I don't know what her
allegiances is to Sutton, but like she's she'll go into
like the middle of like a brawl to protect Sutton.
I don't know if they do her busiest deals together. Yeah,
I don't know what it is about them, but they're
right or die, Like Sutton can do no wrong, and
(33:02):
Sutton is often wrong, but she defends it every time.
Do you get because I get Piste when they don't
have their own storylines, Like her whole storyline is sort
of defending Sutton and you know, sort of asking Erica
questions like we don't like like I said, I need
them to be messy, And I felt like Lisa Rinna,
(33:22):
you know, up until you know, for a little like
the last season, you know, she's been sort of like
you know, they get too smart, Like I'm gonna stay
out of it, but I need you in it, like
and you know, and I feel like this year when
she flipped out on Sutton, I was like, Okay, uh,
you know that you gave us something. You can't just
sit there off to the side. You have to because
like Kyle, I mean, that's her sort of role. She's
(33:42):
sort of like the Jennifer Anderson, the good girl, but
she's not doing ship. Kyle's just there. She's just they're
mixing it up at the Homeless not tooth List Charity Galla.
She's just kind of like they're the like cause trouble
and it's like this one said this, then this one
said that. I mean, she's doing nothing. Do you think
she's bored Kyle? I don't know if maybe I don't
(34:06):
know if she's like long for this Housewives world. I
feel like she has like one or two seasons left
in her like on her own, I think she might
leave us. Yeah, I agree, But you know what, as
much as i'd like Colin appreciate her for her longevity
to the show, I feel like we wouldn't miss her.
And that doesn't mean I don't like her and I
don't appreciate, but we won't miss her because she doesn't
(34:27):
do ship. She doesn't do anything. Unfortunately, it's true. She
does the splits, like we know that, like sicking, sick
and split. Yeah, we know she had some sort of
bones bone dysmorphia or something like that. We got that,
but you gotta come with way more than that, Like
that's not a season long storyline. We love Mauricio, you know,
he's cool and you know their their wr horise and
(34:49):
she did bring us Kathy Hilton, who, by the way,
where like what happened with Kathy Hilton? Kathy Hi? Where
like we see her once? Like how many times have
we seen her? Like twice this season once? You're toy.
But she's starting to come around. But like you know,
the expectations, you know, last year with the who is
Hunky Dory and all her quirky weird stuff, you know,
we were expecting a lot more from her, and then
(35:10):
this year it's like, where's Kathy? I feel like she's
not delivering like we wanted to. She's not delivering. It's
for the best, though, Like Kathy is like like truffle sauce,
like truffle oil, Like she's like a little bit of
Kathy goes a very long way, and I feel like
(35:30):
if you keep Kathy on TV too long, she could
wind up doing something that could really funk up the
image of Kathy Hilton. Like I mean, I didn't think this,
just feel like it's coming. I feel like it's coming,
you do. I feel like Kathy is like there's like
a storyline that maybe coming that. Like she said something
derogatory to like the staff, and Lisa Wrenda heard it,
(35:54):
and now Lisa Wrenda and Kathy Hilton hate each other.
So I guess maybe we'll see that. But I don't know.
Just something I read and Kathy Hilton mustook Lizzo for
the actress who played Precious. She actually called the actress Gabby.
I can't remember her last name. Uh, just said a
(36:19):
picture of Lizzo, who I love, and I'm like a
Lizzo stand And she said, who is that? Is that precious?
But that was tight though, like I thought it was.
So I was like, yo, Cath, you know, people like
immediately go she's racist. All black people don't. Look what
do you expect from Kathy Hilton. She doesn't doesn't know anybody,
(36:41):
She doesn't know anybody. It's not an excuse. She doesn't.
But Kathy doesn't know anybody. She doesn't know anybody. She
thought Garcella was her sister. She must stook a black
woman for her sister. You know, she Lizzo, she says,
it's that precious. Yeah, I don't feel like it has
(37:02):
it would be, you know, like they want to chop
her head off. What she makes? Some mistakes she doesn't know,
like what year it is, She doesn't know who's the
president she you know, says another lady who works for her,
that lady who answers the door. Yeah. Later, like a
few episodes later, somebody correct them, like, Yo, you need
to like at least know the person's name who's like
in your house driving you around, right, I mean it's not,
(37:26):
but Kathy Hilton is. She's a airhead. It's been a
fantastic Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. A Girl's Trip three
apparently is filming Girl's Trip two. In my opinion, the
seven episodes at the Rinda's House, in my opinion, by far,
was the best spinoff ever, hands down, no questions asked,
(37:47):
no question about it. We agree on this. That was
in credible television. We had Brandy Glanville, they crazy, nuts, nuts,
Pedra the Horenda being Dorenda is I used to look
like she's one of my faves. But after that, like
(38:10):
she was, she was mean, attends she was mean. I
feel like she woke up and she was still kind
of to say a little bit, maybe just a little bit.
I mean she again like I love Dorenda again. But
you know, like she made the show. I mean, they
all did. It was really a cumulative effort because Fader
(38:31):
was great. She was, and Vicky Gumbelson was nuts and
great chef uh you know, tamer was great, Brandy Glanville was.
I mean, these are girls, like, these are wacky, wacky women.
Brandy Glandville tried to physically fight Direnda, and they like
they held her back. She's like, it's okay, she's my age,
(38:56):
like and then the bartender laughed. When the bartend to laugh,
I don't, I mean, and Dorenda again, like you know,
she had all these women at her house. She tried
to make it nice, which I Lovedrenda. I say this
with all due respect, we need another tagline. You can't
we've been making it nice. We rocked with that and
appreciated it for I think five or six, maybe seven years.
(39:19):
Now we need another stroke of genius from you because
everything kicked exactly. But you know, as much as Dorinda
went crazy and she went fucking batch it crazy, think
about the stress of having the women, those women at
your house. I don't care how big Blue Stone manner
is like, just think about the amount of stress and
(39:40):
chaos and pressure you feel from having them. And that's
just what we saw on camera. You know, there's uncut.
But if these days are long, you know, like I
don't know, and I don't want to know. I try
to not break the fourth wall. But like you know,
they film and they film, and they film and they film.
They're in your crib. It's not like I mean they're there,
you know, I think they were there. What's having eight days?
(40:01):
Seven days? Yeah, which is a lot like imagine being
in a house with Jill's Aaron for seven days straight,
just Jill, I mean, want to stay to stay with
you for the weekend, just Jill's er you and you're
like a chill dude, like you might swip out. I
(40:22):
think so she was a mess. Jill Zarin is like
I love that she tried to surprise them using life
her big moment from New York and nobody knew what
it was like. She's like hanging on to her notoriety
from like the days of your Housewives of New York,
like she was just how I feel bad for Jilin.
(40:44):
She's a little thirsty. Do you think she's thirsty? Oh?
One thousand percent looks thirsty like she's just she wants
back on the show so bad. I feel bad for
It's never gonna happen. It's never. I mean, I think
they should work on the Legacy show. I think the
Legacy Show they should come with the whole kitchen sink. Uhha.
(41:06):
We need to save New York. We need to save
New York because it's used to be the best one.
Right now, Beverly Hills is holding it down. But New
York used to be incredible. They dream They really did
a number on the Whole New York Thing podcast. All right,
(41:39):
finally the hard question ubiquitous, oh question, and I'll even
you know, you could throw a cherry on top. They
don't have to be in any particular order. They can
be in a particular order. Storm and Norman Baker's top
five of all time. Ever, I'll even give you a six.
(42:01):
I'll give you a cherry on top of the end
if you want one. Okay, So you know this is
agave And I've said this many times, like Number one
housewife is the great Kenya Moore. He gives us, she
gives us so much, and she's tough, she's beautiful, like
we've seen her ups and downs. She hangs with like
(42:22):
she can go toe to toe with Nini and win
like she's the greatest, and she's hilarious. Um, that's your
number one, Your stick to it. That's my number one,
all right. Number two table flipper Sassa d Theo goes
with that, saying the newly wed who's still after thirty years,
(42:44):
still fighting her brother and his wife won't let it go.
Apparently that's just gotten worse. It's taking a turn for
the world. No, they didn't go to her wedding, which
is crazy. I can't wait for that, Like it makes
my heart beat past there when I think about it,
Like I can't wait to see how that all goes down.
Because there's no drama like Judas drama, and and because
(43:07):
it's so it's real, is real? Right? These people that
are like naysayers and all these you know people that
think it's faking it. We're losers for watching it. All
I gotta say is, watch that Judais drama. Watch them
watch Joe, who never speaks Italian break into like chopped up,
mutilated Italian like, watch him like tears in his eyes.
(43:30):
There's ship on The Sopranos, The Godfather, Goodfellows, that that
that isn't as good as Judas, Real Housewife to New
Jersey Drama, A Period so true. I love the Judas
Um I'm still shaky on'm LOVI though. Number three Nini
obviously nimis amazing. She's in everybody's top five. Yeah, she
(43:53):
helped build the whole damn the whole company. One of
the greatest of all time. She's number three. Uh or
is Countess Luanne Louanne and Lane has given us a lot.
I've gone loan her Caba rat Show and she walks out.
She's like Madonna, like everybody's like people are like cheering
(44:14):
and crying. In her mind, she is like Madonna, Like
she's barbrash, Sam She's like hell everybody like, she's like
the quintessential house fine Like she's kind of like yeah,
like actually fabulous and amazing and the storm and Norman.
I have to question as far as number four, and
(44:37):
we went over the Bethnie Frankel as number four. You
have her being your number one from New York. I'm
not saying she's incredible, huh yeah, but you have to remember,
like the mugstat Ears and Tom. This whole thing about Tom,
(44:57):
she fell in the bushes, her leg was. She's giving
us a lot, She's giving us a complete storyline. All right,
don't be all uncool man greatest, Okay. And then my
number five, she's no longer on the show, but at
least the bander frump. I can't that she's got spin
(45:18):
off that has spen off. She's incredible, She's incredible, and
she was funny. She was funny. She was sexy in
a weird way like she was like this kind of
purry sort of British. You know, she had dwarf horses,
she's got dwarf forces, she's got Ken. Her husband was crazy.
(45:43):
I mean, it's hard to you mention Madonna and Madonna concert.
It would be hard to find somebody that is as
flamboyant as Ken Adam Madonna concert, Like can you could
PLoP him in there, and he's gonna like be like okay,
like with the purple shirts, the pink shirts. It comes
dressed like friends holding a little dog, a little right,
(46:03):
like a dog with like a matching colored like you know,
fur and okay. So if you had to do your
one cherry on top, if you were say you're sixth,
who would be your sixth that comes in after the
Great Lisa vander Pump. I guess I'm gonna go with Bethany. Wow,
you say it so reluctantly, like I pushed you into so,
like I'm bullying you into picking Bethany. You know, it's just,
(46:27):
you know, I never really bought into the hype of Bethany.
She actually came to the show and starmed the pants
off me. I really really liked meeting her. She was
really cool because you had sort of been talking about
that on the show, right, Yeah, she was so charming
and cool and like awesome that like you know, maybe
(46:48):
I do see it, Maybe I do see what everybody's
talking about. Well, she's a charmer. I mean, she works it.
She knows how to I mean ship. Look at what
she did. She created this incredible company. It's that's it's
a lot of you know, charm and and grit and
you know, like Mamba mentality. You know, like Steve Jobs
created something that like changed the way we live. I
(47:10):
feel like Bethany said the same thing with the skinny
Margarita's it's like part of our life now crazy, Thanks
the world Jesus Christ. And she couldn't even make it
into your top five. That's fucked up, Norman. All Right, Norman,
I'm gonna let you go. Storman Norman Baker producer, Extraordinary
(47:31):
Air Wrapped. I appreciate you deep diving with me on this.
Like I said, there's not many people that I like,
like I could go into my real housewife's passion, who
know their stuff and who could stick in the pocket
make strong opinions. And I would love for you to
come back another time. Um, you know, and I just
I appreciate you coming on with me, Norman. No, you know,
(47:53):
I love this podcast and I'm a big fan of yours,
and uh, you know, I think awesome. So thank you
so much for having me. Thank you, Norman, I appreciate it. Boom.
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producer extraordinaire reluctant on air personality. Thank you so much,
(48:16):
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I've been talking about it. I don't get to deep dive.
I don't get to really really go in the deep
deep waters of the ocean about reality TV, specifically all
things Bravo, all things Real Housewives. So I had to
bring in an expert who you get to hear from
a little bit. But I know he's got so many
(02:01):
more scorching hot opinions on all things Housewives. My guy
Storm and Norman Baker, one of the producers from the
Wendy Show, one of the producers from the upcoming Sherry
Shepherd Show who was an expert on all things gossip,
all things reality TV, Storman Norman, how are you, my friend,
(02:23):
Michael Rappapor, what's going on? How are you? Everything is good,
Everything is good. The summer. You know, we got a
couple more weeks of the summer. How's your summer been. Uh,
it's been great. I don't remember most of it. It's
been kind of like partying and drinking and you know,
avoiding viruses and stuff. Yeah, they're switching. They're coming up
(02:44):
with all sorts of virus every day. There's a new
virus every day. Every week there's a new virus, it's
something new before we get into the housewives and all
that stuff. And I'm sure you get asked this a lot,
and I'm sure it's probably hard to answer, um, but
how did you wind up even becoming the producer and
also an on air personality for the Wendy Williams Show?
(03:04):
Like I know, producer came first, and then I'm imagining
the Wendy you know be coming on air. We was
sort of organic. But just break that down for people
because people always ask me, how do I get into TV?
How do I do this? You know, just break down
your sort of path to wind up on the Wendy
Show and now what you're doing now my Recks Riches story. Yes,
(03:25):
basically got off the bus from Chicago, and uh I
really didn't know anybody in this business, like nobody, so
and it's basically who you know, not what you know
kind of thing. But I knew nobody, and I was
just kind of like determined to make it. And I
sent my resume to like a trillion like production companies,
(03:47):
and I got a job as the receptionists at the
Ananda Lewis Show. And uh I was a receptionist, and
then from there I just kind of like worked my
way up and it's a lot of hard work, and
I eventually became one of the producers over at Wendy
and her Hot Topics segment, and a lot of our
like backstage conversations just kind of like organically started to
(04:11):
like spill out on air because this was her floor.
Like I was on the set with her, and I
really was just supposed to be behind the scenes, but
you know, she thought like what I said was funny,
and a lot of times she like put me on
the spot, which was I think a little like entertaining
for her. So you never had any aspirations of being
in front of the camera. You always wanted to do
(04:32):
something behind the scenes. No, I was a pretty I
just wanted to be a producer when you came from Chicago.
What was a producer in your head? Like, what was that?
I don't even think I know. I just wanted to
be like let in the building and just kind of
like work in TV. I just wanted to like be
a partner. So I don't really I think I had
any sort of aspiration. I don't think I even knew
(04:55):
what I wanted to do. Really, I just wanted to
be involved in TV because I'm a huge, like pop
culture but addict, so I just wanted to like be
a part of it. Well, yeah, I know you're a
huge pop culture fanatic. That's why you're so good. I
mean when I was guest hosting the show, I mean
you specifically for me, I mean you made I mean
you're like, I don't know, it's like a picture and
(05:15):
a catcher, like throwing it back and forth, and you know,
you know your stuff so good, and you just know
the landscape and you know what to say, what not
to say, how to push it, not to push it
because the daytime TV is not like a podcast. On
a podcast, you can say fox shit, fuck shit. Um
you know and wait, I didn't even know you said.
I never heard you say that before. It bos it
(05:38):
was it was it crazy, you know, with the with
the popularity of the Wendy Show, you know, starting to
get recognized because I'm sure you listen just from the
Wendy Show. You know there's people that you know and
I only did it just a few times. Was it
crazy for you? Because I'm sure you get recognized still
when people would see you on the shoet. Was it
bugged out for you like that you became you know
sort of A yeah, it's still crazy. I can't like
(06:01):
it's funny that, like I go to the grocery store
and people are like, hey, where do I know you're
from a lot of the time they think like they
went to high school with me or something, But yeah,
a lot of the times people are like, hey, you're
from Wendy. How are you driving? Is always the funniest
and it's always good. Having havn't t say on your
side is always a good thing. Having you know, t
(06:24):
s A people you know, like, you know, be happy
to see you because you know, if they're not in
a good mood, you could wind up getting jammed up
and frist and bag search and all that. All right,
you said one of the reasons why you got into
television a fresho off the bus for Chicago is because
you're a pop culture expert. I want to talk How's
Wives with you? But before I talk How's Wives with you,
(06:45):
there was breaking news and I have d M you
we have text. Since there's been a handful of breaking
news things that have happened that I'm like, let's break
into the studio go live and figure it out. First
of all, there's two topics. Kevin Federline, who should just
keep his mouth shut? Kay Fed? Last week, we all
know that Britney Spears has been through the ringer. We
(07:05):
all know that Britney Spears, you know, is sensitive. This
guy last week he really pissed me off. Because if
you have kids, you've been in a relationship. Everybody has
stuff with their kids. Kevin Federline kay Fed posted videos
last week of Brittany arguing with her kids. Now, every
(07:26):
parent argues with their kids, and anybody, you know, whether
it's my parents, if there's videos taken out of context
and posted, would look crazy, whether it was me as
a father, me with my father, or somebody else. And
I just thought it was just for somebody who's been
through what she's been through. Britney Spears. I just thought
it was some real sucker shit that he did that
to his you know, whether they get along not get along,
(07:47):
you know, to do that to her and to you know,
his baby mama after all these years, what did you
think of that? I think he's been taking the high
road for so long by like keeping quiet. I really
don't know why he stooped so low to release that
those videos. It was pretty bad. But you know, I mean,
(08:09):
I guess maybe he was pushed to it because she
kind of like lashed out his parents, hag and she
lashed out at the boys. Oh did she did? She
said something about his parenting. Yeah, Like I feel like
she said something about him being a father and uh,
the boys being like not coming to her wedding and
not being a part of her life. And so I
(08:29):
think she like, you know, lashed out, and so he
lashed back. Yeah, it's messy. And then and the other
one that I you actually sent it to me because
I was doing something. The other one that damn near
broke the internet was Pistol Pete Davidson and Kim Kardashian
the nine months relationship that I mean, like you said
(08:52):
to me, we just have to thank them because they
gave us nine months of pleasure, pain, joy, gossip and
all that stuff off. What is your take on pistol Pete?
Do you have any predictions on who who winds up
being with next? Do you have any predictions on who
Kim will be with next? And do you think that
Kim and Kanye will eventually get back together, break it
(09:13):
all down, Storm and Norman Baker, Kim and Kanye, I
think they're done. I think she's done with Kanye forever.
I don't see them reuniting. But I do predict she's
gonna go back black. I feel like, you know, she's
got the history, She's got Redgy Bush, she's got ray J,
the great Kanye West, and then she went with Pete.
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David said, But I think that was just like a
nine month lift. I think she'll come back over. Where
can she go from here? Like as far as like
you know, she's getting she's forty years old, like these
basketball players, the ones currently playing NFL players and these
guys are their kids. Not that she cares, but where
where does she go? Where does she swim in the
pool here? Like how do you find somebody that sort
(09:58):
of age approp Not that she cares about age, but
where do you think you know she goes? Is gonna
be an athlete and actor? Is gonna be some unknown
baker because you know that won't work, That will never work.
You know that might work for a short period of time,
Like where where does she go? Right? I think she's
gonna go the activist route? You know she wants to
be like a political activist, so I think maybe she
(10:21):
will get with like a Van Jones or like a
I don't know, but Kyrie Sellers. I don't even know
if he's with anybody. But you know, I think she's
gonna get with like a politician or some sort of activists.
That's what I see her doing next. You think she's
done with the athletes. I think the athletes are over.
And what about Pistol Pete Davidson, because you know they're
(10:43):
taking bets on who Pistol Pete. You know, like there's
a thing in Vegas, like you know with Kim there's
like every athlete they're like, you know, they mentioned your
man Van Jones. I mean, there's everybody's up there, Kyrie Irving,
Kevin Durant. They're mentioning James Harden, who was already with Chloe.
I mean, where does I mean Pistol Pete the world
is his always or at this point right, I feel
like he's gonna go old old. I feel like he's
(11:05):
gonna be like cougar territory, like fifties, Like he's gonna
go with somebody much like house life style, Like it's
gonna be like a Diana Jenkins ash situation. Right, Okay,
all right, you gonna find a really rich woman who's
in her fifties. And that's my prediction. All right, all right,
(11:28):
I'm gonna hold you to it because it's I mean,
the whole thing is crazy. And you know, I mean,
like you said, thank you for your service. It was
just all we could say. We could complain, we could
talk all we want, but at the end of the day,
especially you know in our field, it's like just salute
It's just like you gotta salute him. The skate Skeet
Davidson videos, and I mean it was incredible. It was incredible, crazy,
(11:53):
Like when we look back on that twenty years, thirty years,
like and they go over like the year of two,
Like when we see that, like, we will have smiles
on our face. It will bring back such memories and
emotions that we had because that ship was like what's
happening here? Uh huh? And it was so quick that
I do believe in twenty years we're going to be like,
remember Pete Davidson, right, We'll have totally forgotten about it.
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want to start with the housewives. I want to start
with Atlanta, the Real Housewives of Atlanta. Then we'll go
into um, the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, and then
I want to talk about Dorinda. I want to talk
about blue Stone Manner. And then I want to ask
you your top five have have you You're up to
speed on Atlanta? Correct? I've seen I'm up to speed
(13:57):
on everything. Even Dubai, which you know I'm just on.
But you know, what is your take on Dubai? What
is your first what is your good? It's just it's
just starting out. We don't have a table flip moment yet,
you know, like they're just they're new. We gotta give
them some time. I think they're gonna get there. Okay, Okay,
I do too, I do too. You know I'm watching.
(14:18):
You know, my standards are so high, and you know,
when there's other shows on that are really, you know,
like going full throttle, like Atlanta, you compare them. It's
like for me, it's like teams and athletes. You compare them, like, well,
they're not as good. This is just a rookie show,
all right. But with Atlanta Marlowe, who I know, I
was happy she got a peach. And I'm on record
(14:39):
saying I don't want my housewives buttoned up nice. We
want them messy. But when they get messy, we turn
on them. What before I get into specific to what
is your take our Marlowe's season, her first official season
of being a Real Housewives of Atlanta. She got her,
she got her peach. Do you think they should rescind her? Peach.
(14:59):
Do we should we take a peachback? What did they
give her a rotten peach? Where are we at on?
On My girl, Marlowe, I'm gonna make you get in
trouble here, not me. I'm not gonna be getting in
trouble this one. No, I listen. I love Marlo like
I love Marlo. I'm finally I'm happy she finally got
that peach. But she's doing a lot of like pots
stirring that like we see it happening, and she's like
(15:22):
attacking people. We love she attacking? Can you attacking the
Great Candy Burus? Who attacks Candy? So attacking time? It's
just like it was too much. So I think she
can rein it in a little bit. But I do
(15:42):
like her. I want to keep I want her to
stay on the show. Do you think that the Great
Candy Burris is worldwide? Because she said, she said to her,
you're only known in Atlanta. She said to her, you
are only known in Atlanta, And they responded, bitch, I'm worldwide.
She said, bitch on worldwide. Yeah, that gave us like
a catch for the season. Is good with the catchphrasers
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Kenny is really good? And then she went after poor Todd.
I mean God, for me, like Todd's been through with
the mom who's chilled on him. They have kids, like
they're doing their thing, even though I don't agree with
you know how they're doing um, you know, their financial planning.
God forbid something happens to them. You know, everybody's got
to figure that out for themselves. I have no problem
(16:26):
with Yeah, he's like, you know, if you pass, fuck it,
the party's over, the rent's not getting paid, the car
payments that you're gonna be ready to fend for yourself.
Those kids are like kids. Right, layoff Todd, Right, layoff Todd.
And do you think, like what do you think of
(16:47):
the Kenyan Marlowe beef and like what is your take
on Kenny at this point? Because for me, there's been
a little bit of posturing. You said the word ponsturing.
You know, for me, Keny has like been a little
bit lazy. I feel like she's hazing Sonia, who's figuring
out she's a rookie. I mean she's a rookie in
the real house rights of Atlanta, Like that's not the
place you want to be a rookie at. Like they
should have some sort of training program. Uh, opposite women
(17:11):
like Terra and Marlowe and Drew who's tough, you know,
and Kennya is the toughest housewife of all time. Like
you don't want to go against her, but I do believe,
you know, Kenya, we'll get into my my top five later,
but you know, ken you just up there for me. Uh.
I do think she's really really smart about kind of
(17:33):
like pulling back the season and not being like such
a monster. She's pulling back and kind of like showing
like a softer side. She's actually pretty likable, I agree,
really funny and like all the ladies seem to like
her more than they usually do, so I think she's
doing a smart job. I actually think she's like killing
(17:54):
it this year. I agree with you, she is more likable.
She is funny her whole, like you know, Jamaican mc thing.
I thought it was funny on the boat, and she
you know, normally will be one uh you know moment
each season where she's a little bit more vulnerable, but
she's definitely, you know, you know, throughout the season been
more vulnerable. And I feel like you're right, she is.
This is the most well rounded likable season, and I
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don't think she's She hasn't done anything like crazy Kenya
moments so far. No, not at all, except I did.
I really loved saying drunk Kenya. That was like I
didn't know this Kenya existing. That was a whole new Kenya.
Like she did like a Sonja Morgan, like I thought
she had, like you know, like she had like maybe
dung her head or something like she literally almost like
(18:37):
she hit the ground and that wasn't like a prat fall,
like she bust her ass. I applaud her for that,
and she counts Luna and the bushes and she popped
up like a true champion. Do do you miss Porsche?
How much you have to miss Porsche? And how much
do you miss her? I really really miss pa. I
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feel like we're missing something this year. I'm really liking it.
Don't get me wrong, I really like it, But we're
missing Porsta and Cynthia like I didn't know we missed
them so much. But I feel like we really need
like Porscha back. We need Porsche, we need her family,
we need her mom, we need her rich African entrepreneur
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fiance right right, because Porsche just when Porce's life gotten Nessy,
we like we lose her. Yeah, it's not right if
you're going back to more bets. If you were a
betting man and you had to bet the house and
the home, would you say, Porsche, will you be back
on the Real Housewives of Atlanta? Yeah, one thousand percent.
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She's coming back. It's like the Mafia. Nobody ever really
truly leaves. You always come back. Always. Even the great
Bethany Frankel billion dollars, she still came back. And I
think Bethany will be back. I unfortunately, Norman, as much
as I would love Bethany to be back, I don't
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see it happening. And and it hurts me to say that.
I just do not see it happening with these new shows. Um,
you know you hear all these rumors. I know you
see the rumors just like I do. They get your
heart racing and skipping. But I feel like Bethany, you know,
with this new Real Housewives, a complete revamp of the
Real Housewives, and then whatever they're calling the Real Housewives
like o G Show or the Real Housewives Legacy show,
(20:29):
She's not gonna be on there. I don't st don't
think she's gonna do it. I mean she should do it.
She you know, I love her. She's on Instagram talking ship.
I feel like she needs to do it, like I
feel like her, d NA like her, like her like
I don't want to quote R. Kelly, but her body
is calling for her to be on the housewide. But
I just don't think she's gonna do it. Her mind
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is telling her no, Bethany, I do think to be
down the road still retired, like just come for the launch,
do like three episodes, like just you know, like for
old times sakes. I mean she knows the show. I
don't know. Maybe I just I don't think it's gonna happen.
I take her on a like those All Star shows,
(21:14):
the Ultimate Girls strip shows. I would take her on that.
I'll take her wherever we can get her. Um charay again,
betting Man, are we ever gonna see she by Shy?
Are we ever gonna be seeing like the Matts? I
don't even know what it is like because it dresses
(21:36):
fourteen seasons of this show. This is season fourteen, and
she's been on since season one talking about she by
Srey and we have yet to see anything. I guess
maybe we're being like set up for maybe some big
reveal at the end of the season. Maybe possibly, but
if you're talking about it this much, because I went
(21:57):
to the website and I got like four or four
bound like it's still like nothing is there, nothing is there.
So you know, I'm hoping. I wish for nothing but
the best, as you would say, But damn man. I mean,
we've seen people come on Real Housewives of Everywhere and
create I mean, we got three week candles, two week candles.
(22:19):
We got people doing shoe companies, cell phones, you know,
clothing lines, coffee makers, coffee beans, couches home, and we
got dropped. I mean, fucking Drew's gotta I don't even
know what that is. Drew's got a fitness line. She's
giving us like slat into the Eldies tapes and we
(22:40):
can't get sheet by Charay the Great I mean, and
she's back, I mean, and and how devastating was it
to see Chay who we knew this was gonna go bad,
We just didn't think it would go bad in front
of our eyes. When she was sitting there in Philadelphia,
illadelf for like two hours in the cold, you know,
(23:01):
she was like I'm gonna stay on with the furs on,
dressed to the nines, looking fantastic with the Mary J.
Blange boots on, and never showed up. Never showed up.
But I hear she's dating another guy from Love and
Marriage Huntsville, and I think this guy, from what I understand,
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it's like bad news. He's got like baby Mama drama
right now. So I don't know. I don't know. I
can't make any judgments, but you know, everybody is not
happy about this. She's one of the most beloved housewives
because she's so damn funny, and I don't know, like
as much ship as she talks, there's something sweet about Saray.
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There's a sweetness about Sharai, and everybody's rooting for Shore.
Like no one doesn't like Charay. We're all protective of her,
but like, for some weird reason, I just want the
best of her. And rown like standing by him when
he was in prison for I forget what it is,
like eight years or so, and then he gets out
(24:08):
and then he stands you up. It's not right at
like a typhoo restaurant in Philly, and you know, like
it early winter like that, I don't know what kind
of what the hell they were like serving oysters. I
don't know what that spot was, right, and then she's
just waiting by the face time and it was. It
was brutal. It was brutal, and you know all the
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house was because we become so familiar with them, like, uh, Candy,
you know, her cry you know, becomes a voice crack Kenya.
You know, her pain gets so deep. She's you know,
when she's genuinely said, she doesn't really shed tears and
but but you could feel her pain comes out. But yeah,
you see it's real. And like seeing Charay cry like
it hurt me. Oh because she's like, you know, she's
(24:52):
got an armor. She's tough. And to see her like
breakdown over Tyrone from prison from a halfway house in Philly, Damn.
That was. And finally Snya like real quick, you know,
Sanya has been through the ringers. She's finding her way.
She's definitely sweet. Do you think ultimately she's cut out?
Does she have the disposition to be a real house
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or is she too nice? She's too nice, but I
think she's hanging in there. She's definitely tough. Actually, I
really like her. I want to get to know her more.
But I feel like she's picking fights that like she
doesn't know how to pick her battles. So, you know,
just she needs to chill out a little bit. Don't
try to fight Kenya. No, Like, stay away from Kenya.
(25:40):
Stay away from Kenya. You do you don't want that smoke.
That's not smoke you want? Yeah, stick through? Maybe, right,
ken Right, you're right, you're right, yeah, because I like
her too. Um, It's funny, you know, for me, when
I got to interview the women on the show, it's
like they become human and not just characters on their show.
(26:02):
But when I got to interview them on Wendy and
you meet them, it's almost like, I don't know, it
softens me from my opinions because I was like, oh,
she's so sweet, Like you get a different sense of
them when they're in three Reality for You podcast, pivoting
(26:30):
to the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, which is just
like I was just gonna say that Erica Jane cans
to show and I had like a tough stance with Erica.
Break it down show softened me up. I'm like, oh,
maybe she is like Norman. I want you to break
down Erica Jane the last two seasons. Where are you
(26:51):
at with her? What is your take on Erica Jane,
And specifically before you jump into it, specifically, if you
hear her say good dick again, will you vomit in
your mouth? Because when she kept saying good dick, I'm
getting dick, I was like, and I'm an Erica fan,
I was like, I can't hear this anymore, Like you're
making me sick to my stomach here. And also, to
(27:14):
be honest, I don't believe she's getting a good dick,
Like I don't believe it's actually happening. I feel like
I don't trust it. I feel like if she was,
we'd see this gentleman, we would like know who he was,
we know his name. But I just don't believe that
that's happening. Not for one, you don't think there's like
late night creeps where she's getting good dick. To quote her,
(27:36):
that's not me saying I'm quoting herself. Okay. I think
maybe she's too this is she's too famous to like
have like good anonymous dick. I feel like if she
had a good dick, we know who it was, right
Because we know at this point in the world, like you,
especially when she's putting out there, somebody's gonna see. You know.
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We say, like our hose wives, they need to be
careful about flowing their success and all that stuff. Like Erica,
you need to be careful putting that out there because
there's gonna be somebody who's gonna be like, oh, you're
getting all this good. We're gonna find Mr. Good Dick
out here. We're gonna find who this guy here is
here that's getting you. The sun is like in the
bushes right now, with like a long leans camera. Good dick,
(28:20):
bad dick, or no dick at all. We've differentiated with
our opinions of Erica. What is your take on Erica
the last couple of years? What is your take on
her up to speed so far in this season? Erica? Erica, Erica,
She's a She's giving us a lot this season and
last season, like she's become a big part of the show.
(28:41):
Um Now, I know I've kind of like had my
doubts about her, you know her in a sense in
the situation, but at this point I don't even care anymore.
Like I just she's so entertaining and she's so fun
that I feel like it's like not an is you anymore?
Like we don't even care, Like I just want to
(29:02):
see her like get drunk and like cursed children out,
because like literally cursing children out. I know, I feel
like let her go just for that a log, just
for what she's brought to us. Yeah, like with with
(29:22):
your housewife, with with your housewife friends and you know
social media again, you know, Like for me, it's like
whether it's Marlow, whether it's you know, Lisa Wren, or
whether it's Teresa, whether it's Erica, we need these people messy,
We need the bad we need we otherwise we have
no show. I mean, they are what makes the show.
(29:43):
They drive other people crazy, They drive us as fans crazy,
And I you know, people, you know, when I'm like
I love Erica on the you know, when I when
I sort of have appreciated her public people get they
get angry at me, like they get piste off of
me be you know, And I know her stuff was
more serious, but we need messy housewives otherwise what do
(30:04):
we have exactly? And I'm not excusing what happens because
I don't we don't know what happened. We don't know,
So in the meantime. In the meantime, let's just enjoy
what we have in the meat. I think that's a
good perspective to have. Yeah, she's ordering hot tea and
the guy's like, we don't have hot tastes, Like, give
(30:24):
me a whiskey. But she read from hot tea to whiskey.
She didn't a hot tea. Maybe a coffee, maybe some
water with lemon, maybe a hot tea like like okay,
maybe a white rose. She was hot tea. I'll take whiskey. Man.
It's just great this year. Um. Another person whose whole
(30:47):
sort of storyline and sort of identity has changed a
lot is Sutton. She's in the fucking mix. She's in
there with Diana, she's in there with Erica. She got
a tongue lashing from Lisa Arena Um, which was a
great Li Sarendom moment, a great Lisarendom moment. That Elton
John charity situation is just I mean that things I
think two or three seasons ago. Yeah, but that just
(31:11):
keeps happening. Whatever your take on her pain tasting, Uh, Sutton, Yes,
I love Sutton. She's great. Sudden is amazing. I didn't
see it coming because when we first met her, she
wasn't good and we didn't like her, and she was
like I kind of wanted her off the show. But
something clicked, something changed, and she's incredible, one of the
(31:34):
all time greats. Now she really, she really is good. Guys.
I agree, I agree, like her confessionals are great. You know,
she argues she's messy as ship. I mean, she is
a fucking miss. It gives us these crazy fashions with
backwards texedos, buttons are in the back, tore. I mean,
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she's been really, really, really good. She's not scared. She'll
mix it up, like I think something up, and you're right.
I think when she had the whole beef with Erica,
I think it's sort of gasped her up, Like she's like, well,
if I could go against Erica, I could go against anybody.
Uh huh. It's just not the makings of her fridge
because she hates the refrigerator. I'm sure next season she's
(32:18):
gonna have some sort of ridiculous fridge made in like
Berlin or Germany or or one of a kind customer.
Every time we see her kitchen, she's like, don't look
at the fridge. Don't look at the fridge, right, it's
just so embarrassed by it. Don't worry, We don't judge
you a Sutton. What do you think of Garcel? Is
Garcel just there to be Sutton's bodyguard? Because I know
(32:40):
Garcella in real life, but I feel like Garcella, like,
you know, like all she I don't know what her
allegiances is to Sutton, but like she's she'll go into
like the middle of like a brawl to protect Sutton.
I don't know if they do her busiest deals together. Yeah,
I don't know what it is about them, but they're
right or die, Like Sutton can do no wrong, and
(33:02):
Sutton is often wrong, but she defends it every time.
Do you get because I get Piste when they don't
have their own storylines, Like her whole storyline is sort
of defending Sutton and you know, sort of asking Erica
questions like we don't like like I said, I need
them to be messy, And I felt like Lisa Rinna,
(33:22):
you know, up until you know, for a little like
the last season, you know, she's been sort of like
you know, they get too smart, Like I'm gonna stay
out of it, but I need you in it, like
and you know, and I feel like this year when
she flipped out on Sutton, I was like, Okay, uh,
you know that you gave us something. You can't just
sit there off to the side. You have to because
like Kyle, I mean, that's her sort of role. She's
(33:42):
sort of like the Jennifer Anderson, the good girl, but
she's not doing ship. Kyle's just there. She's just they're
mixing it up at the Homeless not tooth List Charity Galla.
She's just kind of like they're the like cause trouble
and it's like this one said this, then this one
said that. I mean, she's doing nothing. Do you think
she's bored Kyle? I don't know if maybe I don't
(34:06):
know if she's like long for this Housewives world. I
feel like she has like one or two seasons left
in her like on her own, I think she might
leave us. Yeah, I agree, But you know what, as
much as i'd like Colin appreciate her for her longevity
to the show, I feel like we wouldn't miss her.
And that doesn't mean I don't like her and I
don't appreciate, but we won't miss her because she doesn't
(34:27):
do ship. She doesn't do anything. Unfortunately, it's true. She
does the splits, like we know that, like sicking, sick
and split. Yeah, we know she had some sort of
bones bone dysmorphia or something like that. We got that,
but you gotta come with way more than that, Like
that's not a season long storyline. We love Mauricio, you know,
he's cool and you know their their wr horise and
(34:49):
she did bring us Kathy Hilton, who, by the way,
where like what happened with Kathy Hilton? Kathy Hi? Where
like we see her once? Like how many times have
we seen her? Like twice this season once? You're toy.
But she's starting to come around. But like you know,
the expectations, you know, last year with the who is
Hunky Dory and all her quirky weird stuff, you know,
we were expecting a lot more from her, and then
(35:10):
this year it's like, where's Kathy? I feel like she's
not delivering like we wanted to. She's not delivering. It's
for the best, though, Like Kathy is like like truffle sauce,
like truffle oil, Like she's like a little bit of
Kathy goes a very long way, and I feel like
(35:30):
if you keep Kathy on TV too long, she could
wind up doing something that could really funk up the
image of Kathy Hilton. Like I mean, I didn't think this,
just feel like it's coming. I feel like it's coming,
you do. I feel like Kathy is like there's like
a storyline that maybe coming that. Like she said something
derogatory to like the staff, and Lisa Wrenda heard it,
(35:54):
and now Lisa Wrenda and Kathy Hilton hate each other.
So I guess maybe we'll see that. But I don't know.
Just something I read and Kathy Hilton mustook Lizzo for
the actress who played Precious. She actually called the actress Gabby.
I can't remember her last name. Uh, just said a
(36:19):
picture of Lizzo, who I love, and I'm like a
Lizzo stand And she said, who is that? Is that precious?
But that was tight though, like I thought it was.
So I was like, yo, Cath, you know, people like
immediately go she's racist. All black people don't. Look what
do you expect from Kathy Hilton. She doesn't doesn't know anybody,
(36:41):
She doesn't know anybody. It's not an excuse. She doesn't.
But Kathy doesn't know anybody. She doesn't know anybody. She
thought Garcella was her sister. She must stook a black
woman for her sister. You know, she Lizzo, she says,
it's that precious. Yeah, I don't feel like it has
(37:02):
it would be, you know, like they want to chop
her head off. What she makes? Some mistakes she doesn't know,
like what year it is, She doesn't know who's the
president she you know, says another lady who works for her,
that lady who answers the door. Yeah. Later, like a
few episodes later, somebody correct them, like, Yo, you need
to like at least know the person's name who's like
in your house driving you around, right, I mean it's not,
(37:26):
but Kathy Hilton is. She's a airhead. It's been a
fantastic Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. A Girl's Trip three
apparently is filming Girl's Trip two. In my opinion, the
seven episodes at the Rinda's House, in my opinion, by far,
was the best spinoff ever, hands down, no questions asked,
(37:47):
no question about it. We agree on this. That was
in credible television. We had Brandy Glanville, they crazy, nuts, nuts,
Pedra the Horenda being Dorenda is I used to look
like she's one of my faves. But after that, like
(38:10):
she was, she was mean, attends she was mean. I
feel like she woke up and she was still kind
of to say a little bit, maybe just a little bit.
I mean she again like I love Dorenda again. But
you know, like she made the show. I mean, they
all did. It was really a cumulative effort because Fader
(38:31):
was great. She was, and Vicky Gumbelson was nuts and
great chef uh you know, tamer was great, Brandy Glanville was.
I mean, these are girls, like, these are wacky, wacky women.
Brandy Glandville tried to physically fight Direnda, and they like
they held her back. She's like, it's okay, she's my age,
(38:56):
like and then the bartender laughed. When the bartend to laugh,
I don't, I mean, and Dorenda again, like you know,
she had all these women at her house. She tried
to make it nice, which I Lovedrenda. I say this
with all due respect, we need another tagline. You can't
we've been making it nice. We rocked with that and
appreciated it for I think five or six, maybe seven years.
(39:19):
Now we need another stroke of genius from you because
everything kicked exactly. But you know, as much as Dorinda
went crazy and she went fucking batch it crazy, think
about the stress of having the women, those women at
your house. I don't care how big Blue Stone manner
is like, just think about the amount of stress and
(39:40):
chaos and pressure you feel from having them. And that's
just what we saw on camera. You know, there's uncut.
But if these days are long, you know, like I
don't know, and I don't want to know. I try
to not break the fourth wall. But like you know,
they film and they film, and they film and they film.
They're in your crib. It's not like I mean they're there,
you know, I think they were there. What's having eight days?
(40:01):
Seven days? Yeah, which is a lot like imagine being
in a house with Jill's Aaron for seven days straight,
just Jill, I mean, want to stay to stay with
you for the weekend, just Jill's er you and you're
like a chill dude, like you might swip out. I
(40:22):
think so she was a mess. Jill Zarin is like
I love that she tried to surprise them using life
her big moment from New York and nobody knew what
it was like. She's like hanging on to her notoriety
from like the days of your Housewives of New York,
like she was just how I feel bad for Jilin.
(40:44):
She's a little thirsty. Do you think she's thirsty? Oh?
One thousand percent looks thirsty like she's just she wants
back on the show so bad. I feel bad for
It's never gonna happen. It's never. I mean, I think
they should work on the Legacy show. I think the
Legacy Show they should come with the whole kitchen sink. Uhha.
(41:06):
We need to save New York. We need to save
New York because it's used to be the best one.
Right now, Beverly Hills is holding it down. But New
York used to be incredible. They dream They really did
a number on the Whole New York Thing podcast. All right,
(41:39):
finally the hard question ubiquitous, oh question, and I'll even
you know, you could throw a cherry on top. They
don't have to be in any particular order. They can
be in a particular order. Storm and Norman Baker's top
five of all time. Ever, I'll even give you a six.
(42:01):
I'll give you a cherry on top of the end
if you want one. Okay, So you know this is
agave And I've said this many times, like Number one
housewife is the great Kenya Moore. He gives us, she
gives us so much, and she's tough, she's beautiful, like
we've seen her ups and downs. She hangs with like
(42:22):
she can go toe to toe with Nini and win
like she's the greatest, and she's hilarious. Um, that's your
number one, Your stick to it. That's my number one,
all right. Number two table flipper Sassa d Theo goes
with that, saying the newly wed who's still after thirty years,
(42:44):
still fighting her brother and his wife won't let it go.
Apparently that's just gotten worse. It's taking a turn for
the world. No, they didn't go to her wedding, which
is crazy. I can't wait for that, Like it makes
my heart beat past there when I think about it,
Like I can't wait to see how that all goes down.
Because there's no drama like Judas drama, and and because
(43:07):
it's so it's real, is real? Right? These people that
are like naysayers and all these you know people that
think it's faking it. We're losers for watching it. All
I gotta say is, watch that Judais drama. Watch them
watch Joe, who never speaks Italian break into like chopped up,
mutilated Italian like, watch him like tears in his eyes.
(43:30):
There's ship on The Sopranos, The Godfather, Goodfellows, that that
that isn't as good as Judas, Real Housewife to New
Jersey Drama, A Period so true. I love the Judas
Um I'm still shaky on'm LOVI though. Number three Nini
obviously nimis amazing. She's in everybody's top five. Yeah, she
(43:53):
helped build the whole damn the whole company. One of
the greatest of all time. She's number three. Uh or
is Countess Luanne Louanne and Lane has given us a lot.
I've gone loan her Caba rat Show and she walks out.
She's like Madonna, like everybody's like people are like cheering
(44:14):
and crying. In her mind, she is like Madonna, Like
she's barbrash, Sam She's like hell everybody like, she's like
the quintessential house fine Like she's kind of like yeah,
like actually fabulous and amazing and the storm and Norman.
I have to question as far as number four, and
(44:37):
we went over the Bethnie Frankel as number four. You
have her being your number one from New York. I'm
not saying she's incredible, huh yeah, but you have to remember,
like the mugstat Ears and Tom. This whole thing about Tom,
(44:57):
she fell in the bushes, her leg was. She's giving
us a lot, She's giving us a complete storyline. All right,
don't be all uncool man greatest, Okay. And then my
number five, she's no longer on the show, but at
least the bander frump. I can't that she's got spin
(45:18):
off that has spen off. She's incredible, She's incredible, and
she was funny. She was funny. She was sexy in
a weird way like she was like this kind of
purry sort of British. You know, she had dwarf horses,
she's got dwarf forces, she's got Ken. Her husband was crazy.
(45:43):
I mean, it's hard to you mention Madonna and Madonna concert.
It would be hard to find somebody that is as
flamboyant as Ken Adam Madonna concert, Like can you could
PLoP him in there, and he's gonna like be like okay,
like with the purple shirts, the pink shirts. It comes
dressed like friends holding a little dog, a little right,
(46:03):
like a dog with like a matching colored like you know,
fur and okay. So if you had to do your
one cherry on top, if you were say you're sixth,
who would be your sixth that comes in after the
Great Lisa vander Pump. I guess I'm gonna go with Bethany. Wow,
you say it so reluctantly, like I pushed you into so,
like I'm bullying you into picking Bethany. You know, it's just,
(46:27):
you know, I never really bought into the hype of Bethany.
She actually came to the show and starmed the pants
off me. I really really liked meeting her. She was
really cool because you had sort of been talking about
that on the show, right, Yeah, she was so charming
and cool and like awesome that like you know, maybe
(46:48):
I do see it, Maybe I do see what everybody's
talking about. Well, she's a charmer. I mean, she works it.
She knows how to I mean ship. Look at what
she did. She created this incredible company. It's that's it's
a lot of you know, charm and and grit and
you know, like Mamba mentality. You know, like Steve Jobs
created something that like changed the way we live. I
(47:10):
feel like Bethany said the same thing with the skinny
Margarita's it's like part of our life now crazy, Thanks
the world Jesus Christ. And she couldn't even make it
into your top five. That's fucked up, Norman. All Right, Norman,
I'm gonna let you go. Storman Norman Baker producer, Extraordinary
(47:31):
Air Wrapped. I appreciate you deep diving with me on this.
Like I said, there's not many people that I like,
like I could go into my real housewife's passion, who
know their stuff and who could stick in the pocket
make strong opinions. And I would love for you to
come back another time. Um, you know, and I just
I appreciate you coming on with me, Norman. No, you know,
(47:53):
I love this podcast and I'm a big fan of yours,
and uh, you know, I think awesome. So thank you
so much for having me. Thank you, Norman, I appreciate it. Boom.
I want to thank my special guest storm And Norman Baker,
producer extraordinaire reluctant on air personality. Thank you so much,
(48:16):
my friend, for rocking with the Iron Rapp Reports Stereo podcast,
All Housewives Everything, I'm Out Miles Jourdan a k. The
Bleach Brothers a k. The Dust Brothers. Take me out
of here with something real nice. Take me out of
here with something real proper, but most importantly, end this
gorgeous reality Rapp Report episode with something real, loud and
(48:38):
real funky. Iron rapp Port Stereo Podcast, I'm Done It
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