March 21, 2025 • 39 mins
Kendra Wilkinson isn't looking to be anyone's girlfriend just yet! The single mom sits down with Amy & TJ to spill the tea on how she's dealing with her chapter 2 and how she really feels when it comes to her ex-husband.
Is Kendra ready to find love on TV? Wanting to try a non-traditional relationship again? Amy & TJ are asking it ALL!
Plus, Kendra is giving fellow reality star, Brittany Cartwright, some sound advice.
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Welcome everybody to I Do Part two. We're just a
few of your hosts here on the podcast is Amy
Robock and TJ. Holmes, and today we have a very
special guest. You have known her for years, and we
actually had to double check the date because.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
We can't believe.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
She made her debut, her television debut on The Girls
next Door all the way back in two thousand and five.
So yeah, that was twenty years ago. And since then,
she's had her own reality shows. She's a realtor. Of course,
she is a mom, and like everyone that we've had
on this show and present parties included, she's gone through
(00:53):
a very public divorce and we're going to talk about
it all today and well, we just want Kendra Wilkinson
to know that she is in good company and in
a very safe, soft place here with us on this podcast,
because yes, we've all been through something similar.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Kendra, Thank you for being here, Thank you for having me.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
It's so good to be here with you guys. And
if there's two people, I trust it to you guys.
You guys are as real as it can get. And
I'm all about real. I've always been real. That's why
I've lasted twenty years in reality TV because people see
it in the eyes. They know that I'm real, So
you know, real, real me, It's real. Here we go.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
You know.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
I always say that certain folks find each other. You
can tell immediately when you find your tribe. And yes,
it takes sometimes people going through something and sometimes of
public flogging unfortunately, but it is really cool to have
you all these things you've gone through and we seem
like we've watched you grow up, become an adult, get married,
get all these things. Is there some part all these
(01:52):
things are so personal? Is there some of it that
you think maybe shouldn't be done in the public eye?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Yeah? Yeah, I mean, you know, there's two there's a
many different like ways to look at this. There's there's Playboy,
there's show business, there's a media attention. There's like so
many different ways of looking at what I've done, you know,
And a lot of people focus a lot on like,
oh you did Playboy, Playboy, Playboy, but no one really
(02:19):
focuses and on like what it took to actually shoot
a reality TV show and what it does? What it what?
How much it takes to shoot a reality TV show?
And it took every ounce of my soul. Like that's
why they call it sell the soul and the devil.
Like I sell, I sold. I sold the god damn devil.
And and yeah, there's a price to pay with that.
(02:40):
There's a major price to pay with that. I have
a lot of regrets when it comes to that. I
don't have regrets with Playboy and all that, but I
have regrets on like, you know, where things went with
show business. So yeah, I mean, you know, there's we
made choice. We make choices, and we reap what we sew.
It is what it is. But you know, like and
(03:00):
I take full responsibility for my choices and my actions
and everything like that. But you know, like there was
a lot of pressure on me. There was a lot
of pressure, like shows called Kendra Kendra Sells, Hollywood, Kendra
Kendra on Top Kendra Kendra Kendra. Like you know, like
there's a major pressure on my shoulders to entertain and
(03:24):
to give the audience what they want and to get
you know, and to draw blood and to you know,
make people laugh, make people cry, make people you know, relate,
you know, And I sold a lot of my soul
that way, and you know, you can't get it back.
So like, you know, I always thought, like, oh, sharing
(03:45):
the realists and the rawest part of me would would
would would be the best way to go, you know,
with storytelling. And I did that, but you know, it
came with consequences. It came with a lot of media
attention and you know of a lot of people, you know,
not respect, like a lot of hate, a lot of criticizing.
(04:06):
So you know, and I can't I'm only one person.
I can't take on the world like that. So it
definitely hit me hard, what you know, It hit me
hard at one point and it and I crumbled and
I fell to my knees begging for mercy. And that's
you know, and that's that's kind of how things played out,
you know, over the course of twenty years.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
And yeah, over the course of twenty years. Kendrick.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Yeah, as we said, you started on that show in
two thousand and five, if my calculations are correct, because
you are still thirty nine years old. You were a
teenager when you started in this not just the television business,
but this was a highly sexualized, some would say over sexualized.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah, part of.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Television, not just the magazine. But now you're one of
Hugh Hefner's girlfriends one of three, I think initially at
the time. But you again, you were nineteen. So I
hear you saying, I take for responsibility for my actions,
I take responsibility for my decisions.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
But you were just a baby. I'm sorry, but you
were a baby. How did you get in that position
to begin with?
Speaker 3 (05:10):
You know, like I, I was a horrible teenager, Like
I was horrible, Like I was a runaway. I sold
cocaine at the age of fifteen, Like I was more
like a runaway from home. I never really, you know,
had a stable life, and so I went looking for
(05:32):
the wrong things. I went looking for dark things, I
went looking for fun. And and now I'm not saying
that everything I did was dark and wrong. I'm saying that, like,
you know, it was easy to take that one way
ticket to LA into the Playboy mansion, where how vulnerable
I was, And you know, I also regret, you know, not,
(05:53):
you know, fighting at a young age to go to college.
You know, like I felt like I always had to
fight for my self and my life in certain ways.
So like it, you know, it just kind of I
took the easy route. I took an easy road out.
But you know, like who has the money to go
to college? Like I never had the money to go
(06:14):
to college. So like, you know, I mean it's easy
for people like me to wander and to you know,
wander into the gates of a playboy mansion. So that's
what I did. I wandered in there at eighteen years old.
And you know, now I'm saying that I can honestly
look back and say that I was safer at the
(06:36):
Playwood Mansion than I was at fifteen years old dealing drugs.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
So in that case, like I was safe. I was
in a safe environment. I was healthy, eating salads every day,
working out every day, no drugs every day. Like, so
I was in a safe environment at the Playwood Mansion.
But was I sexualized? Absolutely? Did that cause me problems
later in life? Absolutely? So you know, like you know,
(07:02):
choices become their consequences for every choice you make.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
How did that have an impact that environment on a Again,
you're a teenager. You hadn't been necessarily exposed to healthy
relationships at that point in your life, but it puts
you on a certain path. Of course, we'll get into
your marriage and divorce in a second, But what did
that do to you in shape what you thought a
relationship was should be and the type of person even
(07:28):
you were interested in.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yeah. Look, I struggle still to this day with my
relationships and my my views on sex, and I kind of,
you know, I had to go through a lot of therapy,
like and you know, they looked at me and they're like,
this is the first time I'm admitting this. But they're like,
you might have like a little bit of a sex problem,
Like you have a little bit of a problem when
it comes to thinking of sex.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
What kind of a sex problem, Kendra? What did they
What were you referring to specifically?
Speaker 3 (07:55):
You know, it's just unhealthy thoughts, like just like not
really settling for like, you know, a marriage and stuff
like that, which is not I wouldn't say unhealthy. I'm
saying that, you know, everyone has their choices and some
people want to be single, some people want to be
married some people and I'm just you know, and I
and I'm more of a fun, idea type of person,
(08:16):
you know. So, but you know, my marriage, you know,
my marriage was at was my happiest days of my
entire life. My marriage were I mean, I'm telling you
those days were the happiest days of my life. And
so when those days came to an end, I crumbled
(08:36):
so hard and it almost killed me. It almost killed me. Wow,
I can say that I managed to. You know, I
left the playwek mansion at age twenty three, got pregnant,
got married at the age of twenty three, then started
my life as a as a wife and a mother,
and it was the golden years of my life. And
(08:58):
you know, I went from the play with me all
like all of a sudden too like this this this
this like marriage life in a blink of an eye,
and and it was the right timing. You know. I
I found myself just you know, so bored at the
playroom mansion. I was just like, I'm ready to leave
this place. I'm ready to start a family. I'm ready
(09:20):
for the I'm ready for like Calabasas lifestyle. You know,
my kids go to a great school. You know, I'm
a soccer mom, I'm a softball mom, like I'm a
basketball mom, like you know, like I was like ready
for that, and so it all came. I manifested it
and it came to me and I met the perfect man,
the man of my dreams, and he's still even though
(09:41):
we're divorced. He's the father of my kids, and he's
the most amazing father to my kids. And I know
I chose right with him, you know, even to this day.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Help you got to help help us and help other
people who will hear that the man of my dreams.
I was the happiest I'd ever been. He is a
great father to these kids. Why is that relationship not
still solid or even worth fighting for? Listening to you now,
it sounds like it's still something there.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Yeah, yeah there. Look, you know, like I'm one person
that can kind of you know, we're human, We're human.
We all have mistakes, We've all made mistakes, and you know,
we just made I think that Hank and I being young,
like we just made too many of them. And I
think that it was it wasn't repairable at a certain point.
(10:33):
So like we just decided to like cheers, like over
over a drink and be like, hey, let's call it
a day. Let's raise these kids, right, you know, let's
not you know, let's not chase like this this fantasy,
this fantasy, you know, and who knows, maybe later, you know,
I want I want that again. But let me tell
(10:57):
you something. I have not found it yet. I have
not found that thing again. So it's it's going to
be a hard This dating life is brutal, it's gross,
it's it's it's hard in it. And I'm not finding
I'm not finding a marriage number two just yet.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Well, Kendra, I'm just curious.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
And for people who don't know you and your husband, Hank,
you divorced in twenty nineteen, but you stood by him
after a pretty big cheating scandal and uh, we don't
have to get into all of the details, but it
was very public and I can only imagine how that
must have felt. It must have felt humiliating for both
of you, with all the details that came. And it
(11:38):
was a he said, she said whatever, But you forgave
him for that.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
They did, you took him back. So it seemed like,
my god, you guys got through.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
That, we did.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Why couldn't you get through what was next?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
What happened next that made it so it was not okay,
so that it was intolerable.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
I honestly, there's a you know, it takes two people
to be in a relationship, and when one person has
when one person changes their minds on love and marriage,
that's how easy it is for it to fall apart.
So I will always always want my family back together.
(12:23):
I will always want that, so till the day I die,
I don't know, like if I have another chance at
marriage with that man or not, Like I will always
want my kids to have these two parents together. But
unfortunately that's a fantasy, you know. So I have to
march in the reality of things, and I have to
be in this disgusting scum dating.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Oh, Kendra, Kendra, it sounds it sounds like you're still
in love with Hank.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
I will always be in love with Hank. I will
always be in love. And you know, mistakes are mistakes,
like we all make mistakes. I've made my mistakes, like
you know. And and but love will never go away.
And and if it's real love, you're you're gonna put
your pride aside and want the best for the other person.
And I and I want the best for the other
person so badly. I'm you know, I'm willing to be
(13:15):
you know, friends with him. I'm willing to like there's
no need for bitterness and there's no need for toxicity.
So I've through these last six years, I have done
so much therapy. I've gone even to the hospital for
seven days to just reprogram my thinking, and I did
that and it really works. So I'm now living in
(13:38):
the state of peace of mind. You know, I'm on
good meds. You know, I'm just in a really good
place right now. And you know, taking up but taking
up this uh, taking up this new venture and real
estate has really has really you know, got me to
focus in on that and not like so much you know,
(13:59):
like the past and you know, regrets and stuff like that.
So I'm like so focused on building my real estate
career that nothing is like, nothing is entering my my
world right now other than friends and fun and good stuff.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Kindred at this point, would you consider it almost a
setback to all the work you've done. If Hank approached
you sincerely and said, I want to talk about us
being together again. It sounds like certainly you haven't closed
the door necessarily completely your mind. But would that be
a bad thing for you to have to go back
to and start thinking about again.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
I think that we would both have to be healed properly,
And I don't know that other person's healing. I'm not
that person, So you know, I think it just has
to do with like timing and heal, like healing and
and the wanting to be in a relationship, and some
people don't want to be if it's not with my
(15:07):
ex husband Hank, Like, I wouldn't want to. I don't.
I don't find it fun to want to settle for someone.
I don't find it. I'm kind of in a fun
zone right now. I'm about to sturt party in June,
so I have like fun ideas more than just like
settling for. Like there's like a couple guys in my
(15:27):
life and I'm like that one just send me flowers,
you know, And I'm just like, what is this for?
What is you know? Like I like, what what did
I do? Like, Like what what does he want? Like
I overthink everything, you know, And I'm just like I'm
not the type to probably settle down just yet with anybody. Now.
(15:48):
If my ex came to me and be like, let's
let's like have a family again, I'm.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Like, yeah. But other than that, it's going to have
to be Prince Darmans is He's gonna have to be
pretty wonderful too to catch you.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
We had a great relationship we used to, you know,
I hold on to only happy memories. So we used
to go, like, you have a trailer, and we used to,
you know, take the trailer out all over the world,
all over the country, and and we used to like
go go to the lake, and like we had amazing summers.
We used to go back to his hometown for his
(16:21):
small hometown, and you know, for for for the holidays,
and we just I just hold on to happy memories.
And you know, I guess I have a problem with
trying to duplicate that so that someone doesn't come into
my life with like a you know, with with a
with a forward truck with a trailer on the back,
like let's go cam, Like I don't want it, you know,
(16:43):
it's like it's so weird. So if someone sends me flowers,
I'm like, I want to I want a trailer on
the back of a pickup truck, not a not a
not some flowers. Right now, it's.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Good to know what you want. That's very good to
know what you want.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Maybe we should introduce her. We're going to be talking
to the new guys from the show Former Wants a Wife.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
We're gonna we're gonna be talking.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
They have a lot of pickups and a lot of cowboys,
a lot of trailers among these guys.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
So maybe well, there we.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Go, tell them about me. Please tell us, all.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Right, we will love us. That's a great idea to
j No.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
But Kender, I've been seeing you putting out on social media.
You're working out, You're proud of what you look like
as you near forty, and you know what you do
look amazing. But you talked about in your Instagram post haters,
you're actually getting hate out there for being you and
(17:35):
being your amazing self.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
It's just it's just so weird. You know. I feel
like I think I you know, I started Reality TV
and Playboy eighteen nineteen years old, and that's when the
peak of my fame was, you know, right around there.
So I think that people hold on to this this
image of me and I you know, I'm not saying everyone.
(17:58):
I'm saying certain people hold on to this image like oh,
you should always be this Playboy girl or whatever. But reality,
you know, the reality burst and bubble Popps a long
time ago. I'm a forty year old woman. You know,
I have love handles now, I have a bush like
you know, like it's it's it's it's not playboy anymore, Okay,
(18:20):
And it's it's not it's not cute, but it's you know,
it's going to be for the right man.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
Is that going to help your dating prospects? And put
that out there? They come on, we're trying to help,
I know.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
But that guy's gonna have to accept all of you know,
I love that though we're really getting older and that
and whoever is going to be with me is going
to love all of me for forever, like, not just
a part of me for a temporary so you know that.
So that person has to buckle up and ride that
rodeo all the way because it's it's not cute, it's
(18:53):
not playboy, it's it's nasty, as you know, can be
a lot of the times. I'm kind of a mess kender.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Is that empowering though?
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Because I imagine being someone and we both you said it
to You were sexualized, you were coveted, you were drop
dead and you still are. But obviously at eighteen, it's
you can't ever be that again, this drop dead, gorgeous
playboy model.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
A lot of.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Women in your position would create, and understandably so, all
their value in how they look. And then when you
start aging, it starts unraveling. How have you managed that?
Where that was the thing?
Speaker 6 (19:30):
You know, people are like, Oh, she's so gorgeous, she's
a playboy model, she's perfect. How do you handle that
when now you are forty and dating again and there's
this image of you out there and maybe you even
hold it or at one point held it within yourself.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
How do you manage that?
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Yeah, look, I just take I'm one personally, this is
my journey. I'm on. I'm not. This isn't to preach
to anyone or to like everyone can live under their
own standards or their own lives. But for me, personally,
I'm on this road of just like like, even though
my boots are fake and I got a tummy tuck
(20:09):
one and I have a little botox in my face, Like,
I want to live in a pretty authentic life. So
like you know, and and with age, you know, I'm
all about law of attraction and stuff like that. So
I don't I don't feel like you know how Pam
Anderson is going makeup free and everything like that. I'm
this very similar. I have a very similar outlook on
(20:32):
life at the moment. So I've been sexualized for so much,
just like she was, you know, and we went through
similar things, and I'm kind of over chasing this fake thing.
I'm over I'm over chasing this thing. So in the meantime, like,
will I get boat talks again? Absolutely? You know, will
(20:54):
I work out, will I diet? Absolutely? But you know,
I'm just going to ride through life the way it's
supposed to go. And you know, if if a guy
doesn't like me because oh I just went on this date,
my dumb ass, my dumb ass, I go to this
I go on this date to Hawaii. This guy's like,
you're gonna go to Hawaii? And I'm like, yeah, He's like,
(21:15):
I don't date anyone over thirty. I'm like, whose problems that?
You know? That's not mine? You know that's not mine.
So I'm I'm not gonna sit here and like transform
myself to fit other people's needs anymore. I used to
do that, and Playboy, I used to like, you know,
need to look a certain way or need to feel
(21:36):
a certain way. But look, as long as I'm working
out at least three days a week, if I'm cooking
and cooking for me and my kids, I'm on the
right track mentally. I'm you know, I'm I feel fine.
I feel completely at peace with myself now other people,
(21:57):
you know, and I and I where like I only
have like five different outfits in my closet and I
just mixed and match him. I'm on a budget, like
I'm on a budget, Like I'm a single mom and
I'm on a budget, Like I'm not going to sit
here and get facelifts and stuff like that, Like no way,
I'm I'm I'm a saying. I'm like, even though Hank's
(22:20):
in the picture, I'm I'm alone on my end with
my own finances and stuff. I'm not going to sit
here and chase all these you know, these ridiculously priced
things and drain my bank account to like look a
certain way, you.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Know, But could you have to tell me how to
go back Hawaii? Did you end up in Hawaii or not?
Speaker 3 (22:40):
I ended up in Hawaii.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
On a date with a guy.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Okay, I met this guy a week ago, and not
not ago, not now, but like a couple months. So
I had met a guy a week before he went
to Hawaii and he's like, let's go to Hawaii. What
do you want to Let's go? And I said, sure,
it's better than going to some local pub, right, So
I'm like, let's go. Let's go. So we hop on
a flight and we go to Hawaii and let's just
(23:06):
say it was the most awkward. It was the most
coward date of my life. It was so awkward.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
How long was it it was?
Speaker 3 (23:13):
It was four days? We cut it to three days?
Speaker 5 (23:16):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah, So that's that's bold, though, to go on basically
a first date with someone to Hawaii public.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
You know, it's not like we were ever alone alone.
We were in a hotel or we were in a
plane at the airport. Like we weren't like alone alone.
So I felt.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Safe, but you but it was awkward.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
He was cool, but like we just did not bond
and we were stuck on this trip together for three
days and it was it was a night It was
a nightmare.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
It was a night.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
Well, how do you meet people? How do you date?
Speaker 4 (23:48):
How does it usually come about?
Speaker 3 (23:50):
You know, it just has to come naturally, Like I've
never been on a dating app. As a matter of fact,
I've been. I've been on the Raya Riya dating list
waiting app waiting list for about five years now for
about what they will not let me in Why No,
I don't know, so I have not done it yet.
(24:12):
I've never done a dating app, and it's just been it.
Usually men like will pop up, Like I go to
the bar sometimes when I'm not with my kids and
a guy will just come to the bar and I'll
be like, what are you doing tonight? I'm the one
who I'm I'm the man because if I have some
time away from my kids, I got to get done.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Like I love that. So you approach the men and
you say, what are you doing tonight?
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Yeah, I'm usually the guy in the situation.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Yeah, that's amazing and it works.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
It works, it works, And I do have two very young,
attractive like x NFL players that are like all up
on me right now, and it kind of you know,
that makes me feel young.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
Okay, you said very young. What's very young? NFL?
Speaker 3 (25:02):
I'm thirty nine, so like you young for me is
like thirty five, So it's young.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
That's young. And you like your NFL guys apparently.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Like the I wish I could. I wish I could
show them to the world and be like that will
make that's like instant botox for me. Like really, it's
just like the it's like the mood become like I
become instantly hot again if I showed a picture of
who I'm, who have, who I'm having sex with at
the moment.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Now, how much of your dating life, if any, do
you share with your kids? Because how old are they now?
Fifteen and fifteen and ten and ten? What do they
know about mommy's dating life? Oh?
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Man, we're so open about it. We're just we're just
really open. We're we're an open household. And they think
I'm funny, they think I'm you know, it's a very
it's a very lighthearted household I have and we have
such a great relationship. So just yesterday we let we
were at We're at a restaurant and we're talking about
(26:07):
love and I'm like, so, Hank, you know. To my son,
I'm like, do you have a girlfriend? And Elijah, my
Grood daughter, I'm like, do you have a boyfriend? And
they're like no, She's like no, mama. And then but
my son's like yeah, I'm like, oh, let's see, let's
see a picture. Ever, she's so pretty. And then and
they're like looking at me, I'm like, well, your guys'
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day life better than mine was like nothing I have nothing,
Like I might dabble into some sex every now and then,
but I I but to date and to and to
build be in a relationship. It's the longest bar fetched
thing I could possibly feel at the moment, like I
I hope it comes. I I think I have, Like
(26:50):
I'm in a bachelorette type of vibe right now. Like
I'm about to turn forty. I have a fortieth birthday
to celebrate in Vegas. So it's like a marriage. So
think of it like the marriage thing, Like I have
a couple of things I need to do before I
get married again.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Could you don't get married in Vegas on the fortieth Okay,
please don't get married in Vegas.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
If I do, it'll be with like three guys, just
like half like I reverse it. I'd be like with
three different guys.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Oh yeah, it's so interesting.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Having had that experience with Hugh Hefner, then you obviously
had an amazing experience being married. But would you just
having had that experience now polygamy, polyamorous behaviors is so accepted,
I mean, would you consider an I would say, a
non traditional relationship because you've already had one at a time,
Maybe when it wasn't as accepted, but now it's so
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much more.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Do you would that.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Even be in the realm of possibilities?
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Yeah, definitely. I I know that sounds like freakish and taboo,
but I probably would. I'd probably explore that a little bit.
I probably want to. Who knows if it'll happen. Who
knows the reality, you know, who knows that that will
happen or not? But like, I'm open to that. I
think it would be kind of fun. You know, the
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best of the best taught me how to do it.
You have to have taught me what it's like the
OG the o G. I I only had the best
the OG like influencer on you know. So yeah, I
mean maybe I do want to get married again, though
I do. I do, so I just have to clean
up a little bit and get ready for all, like
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start manifesting that.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
Okay, you're you're open to it and you're not seeking
it out now if I heard you're right, but you're
still you will remain open to it. I think it's fair.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Well, you know, you know what happened. So like the
other day, I'm with this guy and the guy who
sent me flowers and he he talks a lot about
being with other women, and I'm like, and it doesn't
bother me. I think it's with age or something. I
kind of like, I don't really care. I'm just kind
of like, Wow, I don't have that jealousy thing anymore.
I used to have a jealousy thing when I was younger,
(29:14):
when I was in my twenties. I was married in
my twenties, and I used to be all crazy like,
don't what girl you're looking at? Are you looking at
that girl? Why are you looking at that girl? Why you?
And now now and now I don't have I don't
feel jealous anymore. Like I it's like if a guy
wants another girl, like, so be it. That's not my family.
I'll just go my own way or something. But all
(29:36):
but I'm this one particular guy was talking a lot
about being with another He even showed me other women,
and I'm just like, oh, that's cool, like the guy
who sent me flowers, and I'm like, oh, I would
still be with him. You know, I would still be
with him. So I don't know if an open marriage is.
I don't know if I would do that, but you know,
(29:56):
it feels like I would do it just because, like,
I don't want to feel that toxicity ever again in
my life. I never want to feel jealous or toxic
or feel those weird jealousy feelings anyway. It's like the
worst that to me is probably the worst feeling ever.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Yeah, yeah, that's it. It's a feeling of insecurity.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
But if you're confident enough in who you are and
you know what you want and you know what you
don't want, I'm curious.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
You've shared so much of your life on reality TV.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Would you ever go on a reality dating show to
find love?
Speaker 3 (30:30):
You know what? Guess what happened? So what, I created
my own dating show. I created it and it was
called Kendra's Funhouse, and it was gonna be me in
a house with a bunch of guys. I came up
with it one day when I was drunk, and I
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was like, this is like the best idea ever. Ooh
toget with all these hot guys like them be castid
and like I get all, like I just saw myself
in a hot tub like rubbing their ads and stuff
like that, and then how fun of a show would
that be? So I created and I pitched it and
they and it actually it was about to get picked up,
and I freaked out. No, I don't want to do it.
(31:13):
I don't want to do it.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
What how long ago was this?
Speaker 3 (31:18):
This was like a year ago.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
It was your dream. It was you're gonna get paid
for your dream.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
So I freaked out because my son goes to a
Christian school.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Okay, okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
But like you know, in three years, it'll be eighteen
and it won't matter anymore.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Okay, okay, maybe I should Maybe I should pitch that again.
Maybe I should pitch it again.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
Do you watch any of the reality dating shows at
all and go, wow, I would be on that one
or I could be good on that one, anything like that.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
No, that's why I I've always created my own shows
because I don't watch any TV, and I just all
I know is how to entertain myself with my solf
of about my life. Like I'm in my own category
of like life. So that's what I would That's I
would want to do my own show for sure, and
and you know, and and date. I wouldn't mind finding
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love on camera. I think there's one part of me
that has never been seen before, and that's dating Kendra dating.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
You've always been in a relationship, always been in a relationship.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
That's so fascinating.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
We have to make it happen.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Okay, let's it starts here. It began here, it was
announced here.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
I'm Kendra.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
We just talked actually when we were in La where
you were are right now. We talked with I don't
know if you know who Britney Cartwright is from vander
Pump Rules.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
She's got the Valley.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Now she's in the midst of a very public divorce
and she was going through it still and you could
tell the emotion was raw and real. I mean, she
she's still going through the divorce. Would you have any
advice for her? Having gone through a public scandal, is divorced,
where everyone's writing everything.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
You say, every you know, what would you what advice
would you give Brittany?
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Oh, take a break from the media, like you know,
it's take a major step back and and really focus
in on yourself right now, because you know it could
get super ugly, It can get messy. The more you
give to the media and the and the limelight, the
more you're going to get back. And sometimes it's not
(33:26):
good with what comes back to you. And so it's just,
you know, handle as much as you can in private,
you know, as much as possible. I know, she has
a job to entertain, she has a job, she gets
paid to put her life out there. But do the
best you can with handling you know, the situation in private.
(33:48):
You know, I think their kids or kid is getting older,
you know, to clean, you know, just and be as
giving as possible, even though it hurts, and even though
like that person hurt you like, do as much as
you can to like you know, you know, just know
(34:08):
that you're going to be stuck with this person for
the rest of your life. And do the best you
can with you know, diffusing, diffusing the situation, diffusing any
negative toxicity.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
That's a This is really Candri. This is one of
the reason that I have certainly I think I speak
for robes here love doing I do Part two this podcast.
It has surprised us. I think at every turn to
talk to people, when you there's something everybody thinks about
you when they hear your name. I just heard you
give an answer that you probably cannot imagine an eighteen
(34:39):
nineteen year old Kindra living in that house giving in
terms of advice of get out of the public eye
and handle your personal business. That was such good advice
in my opinion. But were you the girl in that position,
You're giving her the advice that you would have never taken.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
Yeah, yeah, back in the day.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Yes thousand percent, Yes, thousand percent. So there. Like I
said earlier, I come with a lot of regrets when
it comes to show business and media. So I did
handle a lot of my things too publicly and it
you know, and I didn't really see it then because
I was living in the moment, you know, But later on,
(35:23):
later on, years down the line, I look back and
I was like, why did I say, Why did I
do that? Why? Why did I feel the need to
tell the world way too much? You know, And it
just it just gets really messy, really fast. And you know,
you might you might not feel it at the moment,
but later on you will be thinking about it. So
(35:47):
I wish I could turn back time and take back
a few things, you know, Like I went on you know,
after you know, after Hank and I went through our problems,
I went on all these live TV shows and I
just gave all these interviews without healing. I never you know,
I never went through therapy. Instead I used, you know,
(36:11):
the media and entertainment to be my therapy, and that
was the wrong way to do it. You know, I
let the devil in, I let the darkness in instead
of getting the proper support and the proper help and
the proper therapy to truly move forward. You know, I
(36:31):
just got refueled every time I did an interview, every
time I did something, it would trigger me and I
would fall back into a depression. I would fall back
into a depression. I would fall back into a depression.
So you know, like as much as you possibly can't,
you just got to diffuse it as soon as possible,
so you don't just keep living in the same cycle
(36:53):
of of toxicity.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Well, Kendra, I have to say to hear where you
are now and what you said today was nothing but
kindness and love extended towards Hank even you know, towards yourself.
I see, and I think everyone listening can hear. Those
regrets have now created the person who you are today.
(37:18):
So I know, and I hope you feel proud of that,
because it's remarkable to see you use that pain and
those mistakes. But isn't that what mistakes are for? So
we can become better people. So I just I applaud
you for sharing as much as you have today, but
sharing it with love and with kindness. That was beautiful
to hear you talk about your ex husband that way.
(37:40):
And it's a lesson for all of us to learn,
because you know, everyone on the show has exes, right,
and a lot of the folks listening do too. We're
racking them up, but yes, it's it's an important thing
to remember, especially when children are involved. So I just
want to thank you for your openness and just how
youautiful your words have been to mean so much.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Thanks you, Thank you so much for having me. Yeah,
I just think that, you know, it's it's the truth
that we're all human beings and we all are suffering
our own on our own path in some way, shape
or form, and we all deserve you know, I'm not
saying we all deserve forgiveness to some degree. We get
deserve second, third, sometimes third chances, and I think that's
(38:25):
that's how life should go, you know.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
Yeah, all right, and this is she said.
Speaker 5 (38:34):
I can't say anybody than she said.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
It's just been an absolute treat and it's a pleasure
to meet you, and we're going to keep our eye out.
Speaker 5 (38:40):
Reminder.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Yeah, and someone sticks out, please let me, Please let
them know that I'm single. I'm ready to mingle.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
But if he doesn't have a pick up, a trailer
or an NFL contract, he need not apply.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
All take a Lamborghini and a dinner at Noboo Malibu.
Speaker 5 (38:59):
You know that great spot, good good taste. All right, kind,
Thank you so much, Ladys, Thank.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
You, Kendra, Thanks Guy.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
To our listeners out there, we are here to help you.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
Have you been having a hard time navigating your own
divorce or are you ready to get back to dating
but you don't know where to start. Well, you can
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podcast where falling in love is the main objective.
Welcome everybody to I Do Part two. We're just a
few of your hosts here on the podcast is Amy
Robock and TJ. Holmes, and today we have a very
special guest. You have known her for years, and we
actually had to double check the date because.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
We can't believe.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
She made her debut, her television debut on The Girls
next Door all the way back in two thousand and five.
So yeah, that was twenty years ago. And since then,
she's had her own reality shows. She's a realtor. Of course,
she is a mom, and like everyone that we've had
on this show and present parties included, she's gone through
(00:53):
a very public divorce and we're going to talk about
it all today and well, we just want Kendra Wilkinson
to know that she is in good company and in
a very safe, soft place here with us on this podcast,
because yes, we've all been through something similar.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Kendra, Thank you for being here, Thank you for having me.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
It's so good to be here with you guys. And
if there's two people, I trust it to you guys.
You guys are as real as it can get. And
I'm all about real. I've always been real. That's why
I've lasted twenty years in reality TV because people see
it in the eyes. They know that I'm real, So
you know, real, real me, It's real. Here we go.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
You know.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
I always say that certain folks find each other. You
can tell immediately when you find your tribe. And yes,
it takes sometimes people going through something and sometimes of
public flogging unfortunately, but it is really cool to have
you all these things you've gone through and we seem
like we've watched you grow up, become an adult, get married,
get all these things. Is there some part all these
(01:52):
things are so personal? Is there some of it that
you think maybe shouldn't be done in the public eye?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Yeah? Yeah, I mean, you know, there's two there's a
many different like ways to look at this. There's there's Playboy,
there's show business, there's a media attention. There's like so
many different ways of looking at what I've done, you know,
And a lot of people focus a lot on like,
oh you did Playboy, Playboy, Playboy, but no one really
(02:19):
focuses and on like what it took to actually shoot
a reality TV show and what it does? What it what?
How much it takes to shoot a reality TV show?
And it took every ounce of my soul. Like that's
why they call it sell the soul and the devil.
Like I sell, I sold. I sold the god damn devil.
And and yeah, there's a price to pay with that.
(02:40):
There's a major price to pay with that. I have
a lot of regrets when it comes to that. I
don't have regrets with Playboy and all that, but I
have regrets on like, you know, where things went with
show business. So yeah, I mean, you know, there's we
made choice. We make choices, and we reap what we sew.
It is what it is. But you know, like and
(03:00):
I take full responsibility for my choices and my actions
and everything like that. But you know, like there was
a lot of pressure on me. There was a lot
of pressure, like shows called Kendra Kendra Sells, Hollywood, Kendra
Kendra on Top Kendra Kendra Kendra. Like you know, like
there's a major pressure on my shoulders to entertain and
(03:24):
to give the audience what they want and to get
you know, and to draw blood and to you know,
make people laugh, make people cry, make people you know, relate,
you know, And I sold a lot of my soul
that way, and you know, you can't get it back.
So like, you know, I always thought, like, oh, sharing
(03:45):
the realists and the rawest part of me would would
would would be the best way to go, you know,
with storytelling. And I did that, but you know, it
came with consequences. It came with a lot of media
attention and you know of a lot of people, you know,
not respect, like a lot of hate, a lot of criticizing.
(04:06):
So you know, and I can't I'm only one person.
I can't take on the world like that. So it
definitely hit me hard, what you know, It hit me
hard at one point and it and I crumbled and
I fell to my knees begging for mercy. And that's
you know, and that's that's kind of how things played out,
you know, over the course of twenty years.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
And yeah, over the course of twenty years. Kendrick.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Yeah, as we said, you started on that show in
two thousand and five, if my calculations are correct, because
you are still thirty nine years old. You were a
teenager when you started in this not just the television business,
but this was a highly sexualized, some would say over sexualized.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah, part of.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Television, not just the magazine. But now you're one of
Hugh Hefner's girlfriends one of three, I think initially at
the time. But you again, you were nineteen. So I
hear you saying, I take for responsibility for my actions,
I take responsibility for my decisions.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
But you were just a baby. I'm sorry, but you
were a baby. How did you get in that position
to begin with?
Speaker 3 (05:10):
You know, like I, I was a horrible teenager, Like
I was horrible, Like I was a runaway. I sold
cocaine at the age of fifteen, Like I was more
like a runaway from home. I never really, you know,
had a stable life, and so I went looking for
(05:32):
the wrong things. I went looking for dark things, I
went looking for fun. And and now I'm not saying
that everything I did was dark and wrong. I'm saying that, like,
you know, it was easy to take that one way
ticket to LA into the Playboy mansion, where how vulnerable
I was, And you know, I also regret, you know, not,
(05:53):
you know, fighting at a young age to go to college.
You know, like I felt like I always had to
fight for my self and my life in certain ways.
So like it, you know, it just kind of I
took the easy route. I took an easy road out.
But you know, like who has the money to go
to college? Like I never had the money to go
(06:14):
to college. So like, you know, I mean it's easy
for people like me to wander and to you know,
wander into the gates of a playboy mansion. So that's
what I did. I wandered in there at eighteen years old.
And you know, now I'm saying that I can honestly
look back and say that I was safer at the
(06:36):
Playwood Mansion than I was at fifteen years old dealing drugs.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
So in that case, like I was safe. I was
in a safe environment. I was healthy, eating salads every day,
working out every day, no drugs every day. Like, so
I was in a safe environment at the Playwood Mansion.
But was I sexualized? Absolutely? Did that cause me problems
later in life? Absolutely? So you know, like you know,
(07:02):
choices become their consequences for every choice you make.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
How did that have an impact that environment on a Again,
you're a teenager. You hadn't been necessarily exposed to healthy
relationships at that point in your life, but it puts
you on a certain path. Of course, we'll get into
your marriage and divorce in a second, But what did
that do to you in shape what you thought a
relationship was should be and the type of person even
(07:28):
you were interested in.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yeah. Look, I struggle still to this day with my
relationships and my my views on sex, and I kind of,
you know, I had to go through a lot of therapy,
like and you know, they looked at me and they're like,
this is the first time I'm admitting this. But they're like,
you might have like a little bit of a sex problem,
Like you have a little bit of a problem when
it comes to thinking of sex.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
What kind of a sex problem, Kendra? What did they
What were you referring to specifically?
Speaker 3 (07:55):
You know, it's just unhealthy thoughts, like just like not
really settling for like, you know, a marriage and stuff
like that, which is not I wouldn't say unhealthy. I'm
saying that, you know, everyone has their choices and some
people want to be single, some people want to be
married some people and I'm just you know, and I
and I'm more of a fun, idea type of person,
(08:16):
you know. So, but you know, my marriage, you know,
my marriage was at was my happiest days of my
entire life. My marriage were I mean, I'm telling you
those days were the happiest days of my life. And
so when those days came to an end, I crumbled
(08:36):
so hard and it almost killed me. It almost killed me. Wow,
I can say that I managed to. You know, I
left the playwek mansion at age twenty three, got pregnant,
got married at the age of twenty three, then started
my life as a as a wife and a mother,
and it was the golden years of my life. And
(08:58):
you know, I went from the play with me all
like all of a sudden too like this this this
this like marriage life in a blink of an eye,
and and it was the right timing. You know. I
I found myself just you know, so bored at the
playroom mansion. I was just like, I'm ready to leave
this place. I'm ready to start a family. I'm ready
(09:20):
for the I'm ready for like Calabasas lifestyle. You know,
my kids go to a great school. You know, I'm
a soccer mom, I'm a softball mom, like I'm a
basketball mom, like you know, like I was like ready
for that, and so it all came. I manifested it
and it came to me and I met the perfect man,
the man of my dreams, and he's still even though
(09:41):
we're divorced. He's the father of my kids, and he's
the most amazing father to my kids. And I know
I chose right with him, you know, even to this day.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Help you got to help help us and help other
people who will hear that the man of my dreams.
I was the happiest I'd ever been. He is a
great father to these kids. Why is that relationship not
still solid or even worth fighting for? Listening to you now,
it sounds like it's still something there.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Yeah, yeah there. Look, you know, like I'm one person
that can kind of you know, we're human, We're human.
We all have mistakes, We've all made mistakes, and you know,
we just made I think that Hank and I being young,
like we just made too many of them. And I
think that it was it wasn't repairable at a certain point.
(10:33):
So like we just decided to like cheers, like over
over a drink and be like, hey, let's call it
a day. Let's raise these kids, right, you know, let's
not you know, let's not chase like this this fantasy,
this fantasy, you know, and who knows, maybe later, you know,
I want I want that again. But let me tell
(10:57):
you something. I have not found it yet. I have
not found that thing again. So it's it's going to
be a hard This dating life is brutal, it's gross,
it's it's it's hard in it. And I'm not finding
I'm not finding a marriage number two just yet.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Well, Kendra, I'm just curious.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
And for people who don't know you and your husband, Hank,
you divorced in twenty nineteen, but you stood by him
after a pretty big cheating scandal and uh, we don't
have to get into all of the details, but it
was very public and I can only imagine how that
must have felt. It must have felt humiliating for both
of you, with all the details that came. And it
(11:38):
was a he said, she said whatever, But you forgave
him for that.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
They did, you took him back. So it seemed like,
my god, you guys got through.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
That, we did.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Why couldn't you get through what was next?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
What happened next that made it so it was not okay,
so that it was intolerable.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
I honestly, there's a you know, it takes two people
to be in a relationship, and when one person has
when one person changes their minds on love and marriage,
that's how easy it is for it to fall apart.
So I will always always want my family back together.
(12:23):
I will always want that, so till the day I die,
I don't know, like if I have another chance at
marriage with that man or not, Like I will always
want my kids to have these two parents together. But
unfortunately that's a fantasy, you know. So I have to
march in the reality of things, and I have to
be in this disgusting scum dating.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Oh, Kendra, Kendra, it sounds it sounds like you're still
in love with Hank.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
I will always be in love with Hank. I will
always be in love. And you know, mistakes are mistakes,
like we all make mistakes. I've made my mistakes, like
you know. And and but love will never go away.
And and if it's real love, you're you're gonna put
your pride aside and want the best for the other person.
And I and I want the best for the other
person so badly. I'm you know, I'm willing to be
(13:15):
you know, friends with him. I'm willing to like there's
no need for bitterness and there's no need for toxicity.
So I've through these last six years, I have done
so much therapy. I've gone even to the hospital for
seven days to just reprogram my thinking, and I did
that and it really works. So I'm now living in
(13:38):
the state of peace of mind. You know, I'm on
good meds. You know, I'm just in a really good
place right now. And you know, taking up but taking
up this uh, taking up this new venture and real
estate has really has really you know, got me to
focus in on that and not like so much you know,
(13:59):
like the past and you know, regrets and stuff like that.
So I'm like so focused on building my real estate
career that nothing is like, nothing is entering my my
world right now other than friends and fun and good stuff.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Kindred at this point, would you consider it almost a
setback to all the work you've done. If Hank approached
you sincerely and said, I want to talk about us
being together again. It sounds like certainly you haven't closed
the door necessarily completely your mind. But would that be
a bad thing for you to have to go back
to and start thinking about again.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
I think that we would both have to be healed properly,
And I don't know that other person's healing. I'm not
that person, So you know, I think it just has
to do with like timing and heal, like healing and
and the wanting to be in a relationship, and some
people don't want to be if it's not with my
(15:07):
ex husband Hank, Like, I wouldn't want to. I don't.
I don't find it fun to want to settle for someone.
I don't find it. I'm kind of in a fun
zone right now. I'm about to sturt party in June,
so I have like fun ideas more than just like
settling for. Like there's like a couple guys in my
(15:27):
life and I'm like that one just send me flowers,
you know, And I'm just like, what is this for?
What is you know? Like I like, what what did
I do? Like, Like what what does he want? Like
I overthink everything, you know, And I'm just like I'm
not the type to probably settle down just yet with anybody. Now.
(15:48):
If my ex came to me and be like, let's
let's like have a family again, I'm.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Like, yeah. But other than that, it's going to have
to be Prince Darmans is He's gonna have to be
pretty wonderful too to catch you.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
We had a great relationship we used to, you know,
I hold on to only happy memories. So we used
to go, like, you have a trailer, and we used to,
you know, take the trailer out all over the world,
all over the country, and and we used to like
go go to the lake, and like we had amazing summers.
We used to go back to his hometown for his
(16:21):
small hometown, and you know, for for for the holidays,
and we just I just hold on to happy memories.
And you know, I guess I have a problem with
trying to duplicate that so that someone doesn't come into
my life with like a you know, with with a
with a forward truck with a trailer on the back,
like let's go cam, Like I don't want it, you know,
(16:43):
it's like it's so weird. So if someone sends me flowers,
I'm like, I want to I want a trailer on
the back of a pickup truck, not a not a
not some flowers. Right now, it's.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Good to know what you want. That's very good to
know what you want.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Maybe we should introduce her. We're going to be talking
to the new guys from the show Former Wants a Wife.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
We're gonna we're gonna be talking.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
They have a lot of pickups and a lot of cowboys,
a lot of trailers among these guys.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
So maybe well, there we.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Go, tell them about me. Please tell us, all.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Right, we will love us. That's a great idea to
j No.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
But Kender, I've been seeing you putting out on social media.
You're working out, You're proud of what you look like
as you near forty, and you know what you do
look amazing. But you talked about in your Instagram post haters,
you're actually getting hate out there for being you and
(17:35):
being your amazing self.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
It's just it's just so weird. You know. I feel
like I think I you know, I started Reality TV
and Playboy eighteen nineteen years old, and that's when the
peak of my fame was, you know, right around there.
So I think that people hold on to this this
image of me and I you know, I'm not saying everyone.
(17:58):
I'm saying certain people hold on to this image like oh,
you should always be this Playboy girl or whatever. But reality,
you know, the reality burst and bubble Popps a long
time ago. I'm a forty year old woman. You know,
I have love handles now, I have a bush like
you know, like it's it's it's it's not playboy anymore, Okay,
(18:20):
And it's it's not it's not cute, but it's you know,
it's going to be for the right man.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
Is that going to help your dating prospects? And put
that out there? They come on, we're trying to help,
I know.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
But that guy's gonna have to accept all of you know,
I love that though we're really getting older and that
and whoever is going to be with me is going
to love all of me for forever, like, not just
a part of me for a temporary so you know that.
So that person has to buckle up and ride that
rodeo all the way because it's it's not cute, it's
(18:53):
not playboy, it's it's nasty, as you know, can be
a lot of the times. I'm kind of a mess kender.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Is that empowering though?
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Because I imagine being someone and we both you said it
to You were sexualized, you were coveted, you were drop
dead and you still are. But obviously at eighteen, it's
you can't ever be that again, this drop dead, gorgeous
playboy model.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
A lot of.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Women in your position would create, and understandably so, all
their value in how they look. And then when you
start aging, it starts unraveling. How have you managed that?
Where that was the thing?
Speaker 6 (19:30):
You know, people are like, Oh, she's so gorgeous, she's
a playboy model, she's perfect. How do you handle that
when now you are forty and dating again and there's
this image of you out there and maybe you even
hold it or at one point held it within yourself.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
How do you manage that?
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Yeah, look, I just take I'm one personally, this is
my journey. I'm on. I'm not. This isn't to preach
to anyone or to like everyone can live under their
own standards or their own lives. But for me, personally,
I'm on this road of just like like, even though
my boots are fake and I got a tummy tuck
(20:09):
one and I have a little botox in my face, Like,
I want to live in a pretty authentic life. So
like you know, and and with age, you know, I'm
all about law of attraction and stuff like that. So
I don't I don't feel like you know how Pam
Anderson is going makeup free and everything like that. I'm
this very similar. I have a very similar outlook on
(20:32):
life at the moment. So I've been sexualized for so much,
just like she was, you know, and we went through
similar things, and I'm kind of over chasing this fake thing.
I'm over I'm over chasing this thing. So in the meantime, like,
will I get boat talks again? Absolutely? You know, will
(20:54):
I work out, will I diet? Absolutely? But you know,
I'm just going to ride through life the way it's
supposed to go. And you know, if if a guy
doesn't like me because oh I just went on this date,
my dumb ass, my dumb ass, I go to this
I go on this date to Hawaii. This guy's like,
you're gonna go to Hawaii? And I'm like, yeah, He's like,
(21:15):
I don't date anyone over thirty. I'm like, whose problems that?
You know? That's not mine? You know that's not mine.
So I'm I'm not gonna sit here and like transform
myself to fit other people's needs anymore. I used to
do that, and Playboy, I used to like, you know,
need to look a certain way or need to feel
(21:36):
a certain way. But look, as long as I'm working
out at least three days a week, if I'm cooking
and cooking for me and my kids, I'm on the
right track mentally. I'm you know, I'm I feel fine.
I feel completely at peace with myself now other people,
(21:57):
you know, and I and I where like I only
have like five different outfits in my closet and I
just mixed and match him. I'm on a budget, like
I'm on a budget, Like I'm a single mom and
I'm on a budget, Like I'm not going to sit
here and get facelifts and stuff like that, Like no way,
I'm I'm I'm a saying. I'm like, even though Hank's
(22:20):
in the picture, I'm I'm alone on my end with
my own finances and stuff. I'm not going to sit
here and chase all these you know, these ridiculously priced
things and drain my bank account to like look a
certain way, you.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Know, But could you have to tell me how to
go back Hawaii? Did you end up in Hawaii or not?
Speaker 3 (22:40):
I ended up in Hawaii.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
On a date with a guy.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Okay, I met this guy a week ago, and not
not ago, not now, but like a couple months. So
I had met a guy a week before he went
to Hawaii and he's like, let's go to Hawaii. What
do you want to Let's go? And I said, sure,
it's better than going to some local pub, right, So
I'm like, let's go. Let's go. So we hop on
a flight and we go to Hawaii and let's just
(23:06):
say it was the most awkward. It was the most
coward date of my life. It was so awkward.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
How long was it it was?
Speaker 3 (23:13):
It was four days? We cut it to three days?
Speaker 5 (23:16):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah, So that's that's bold, though, to go on basically
a first date with someone to Hawaii public.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
You know, it's not like we were ever alone alone.
We were in a hotel or we were in a
plane at the airport. Like we weren't like alone alone.
So I felt.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Safe, but you but it was awkward.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
He was cool, but like we just did not bond
and we were stuck on this trip together for three
days and it was it was a night It was
a nightmare.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
It was a night.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
Well, how do you meet people? How do you date?
Speaker 4 (23:48):
How does it usually come about?
Speaker 3 (23:50):
You know, it just has to come naturally, Like I've
never been on a dating app. As a matter of fact,
I've been. I've been on the Raya Riya dating list
waiting app waiting list for about five years now for
about what they will not let me in Why No,
I don't know, so I have not done it yet.
(24:12):
I've never done a dating app, and it's just been it.
Usually men like will pop up, Like I go to
the bar sometimes when I'm not with my kids and
a guy will just come to the bar and I'll
be like, what are you doing tonight? I'm the one
who I'm I'm the man because if I have some
time away from my kids, I got to get done.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Like I love that. So you approach the men and
you say, what are you doing tonight?
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Yeah, I'm usually the guy in the situation.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Yeah, that's amazing and it works.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
It works, it works, And I do have two very young,
attractive like x NFL players that are like all up
on me right now, and it kind of you know,
that makes me feel young.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
Okay, you said very young. What's very young? NFL?
Speaker 3 (25:02):
I'm thirty nine, so like you young for me is
like thirty five, So it's young.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
That's young. And you like your NFL guys apparently.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Like the I wish I could. I wish I could
show them to the world and be like that will
make that's like instant botox for me. Like really, it's
just like the it's like the mood become like I
become instantly hot again if I showed a picture of
who I'm, who have, who I'm having sex with at
the moment.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Now, how much of your dating life, if any, do
you share with your kids? Because how old are they now?
Fifteen and fifteen and ten and ten? What do they
know about mommy's dating life? Oh?
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Man, we're so open about it. We're just we're just
really open. We're we're an open household. And they think
I'm funny, they think I'm you know, it's a very
it's a very lighthearted household I have and we have
such a great relationship. So just yesterday we let we
were at We're at a restaurant and we're talking about
(26:07):
love and I'm like, so, Hank, you know. To my son,
I'm like, do you have a girlfriend? And Elijah, my
Grood daughter, I'm like, do you have a boyfriend? And
they're like no, She's like no, mama. And then but
my son's like yeah, I'm like, oh, let's see, let's
see a picture. Ever, she's so pretty. And then and
they're like looking at me, I'm like, well, your guys'
(26:28):
day life better than mine was like nothing I have nothing,
Like I might dabble into some sex every now and then,
but I I but to date and to and to
build be in a relationship. It's the longest bar fetched
thing I could possibly feel at the moment, like I
I hope it comes. I I think I have, Like
(26:50):
I'm in a bachelorette type of vibe right now. Like
I'm about to turn forty. I have a fortieth birthday
to celebrate in Vegas. So it's like a marriage. So
think of it like the marriage thing, Like I have
a couple of things I need to do before I
get married again.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Could you don't get married in Vegas on the fortieth Okay,
please don't get married in Vegas.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
If I do, it'll be with like three guys, just
like half like I reverse it. I'd be like with
three different guys.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Oh yeah, it's so interesting.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Having had that experience with Hugh Hefner, then you obviously
had an amazing experience being married. But would you just
having had that experience now polygamy, polyamorous behaviors is so accepted,
I mean, would you consider an I would say, a
non traditional relationship because you've already had one at a time,
Maybe when it wasn't as accepted, but now it's so
(27:54):
much more.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Do you would that.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Even be in the realm of possibilities?
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Yeah, definitely. I I know that sounds like freakish and taboo,
but I probably would. I'd probably explore that a little bit.
I probably want to. Who knows if it'll happen. Who
knows the reality, you know, who knows that that will
happen or not? But like, I'm open to that. I
think it would be kind of fun. You know, the
(28:21):
best of the best taught me how to do it.
You have to have taught me what it's like the
OG the o G. I I only had the best
the OG like influencer on you know. So yeah, I
mean maybe I do want to get married again, though
I do. I do, so I just have to clean
up a little bit and get ready for all, like
(28:43):
start manifesting that.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
Okay, you're you're open to it and you're not seeking
it out now if I heard you're right, but you're
still you will remain open to it. I think it's fair.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Well, you know, you know what happened. So like the
other day, I'm with this guy and the guy who
sent me flowers and he he talks a lot about
being with other women, and I'm like, and it doesn't
bother me. I think it's with age or something. I
kind of like, I don't really care. I'm just kind
of like, Wow, I don't have that jealousy thing anymore.
I used to have a jealousy thing when I was younger,
(29:14):
when I was in my twenties. I was married in
my twenties, and I used to be all crazy like,
don't what girl you're looking at? Are you looking at
that girl? Why are you looking at that girl? Why you?
And now now and now I don't have I don't
feel jealous anymore. Like I it's like if a guy
wants another girl, like, so be it. That's not my family.
I'll just go my own way or something. But all
(29:36):
but I'm this one particular guy was talking a lot
about being with another He even showed me other women,
and I'm just like, oh, that's cool, like the guy
who sent me flowers, and I'm like, oh, I would
still be with him. You know, I would still be
with him. So I don't know if an open marriage is.
I don't know if I would do that, but you know,
(29:56):
it feels like I would do it just because, like,
I don't want to feel that toxicity ever again in
my life. I never want to feel jealous or toxic
or feel those weird jealousy feelings anyway. It's like the
worst that to me is probably the worst feeling ever.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Yeah, yeah, that's it. It's a feeling of insecurity.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
But if you're confident enough in who you are and
you know what you want and you know what you
don't want, I'm curious.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
You've shared so much of your life on reality TV.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Would you ever go on a reality dating show to
find love?
Speaker 3 (30:30):
You know what? Guess what happened? So what, I created
my own dating show. I created it and it was
called Kendra's Funhouse, and it was gonna be me in
a house with a bunch of guys. I came up
with it one day when I was drunk, and I
(30:51):
was like, this is like the best idea ever. Ooh
toget with all these hot guys like them be castid
and like I get all, like I just saw myself
in a hot tub like rubbing their ads and stuff
like that, and then how fun of a show would
that be? So I created and I pitched it and
they and it actually it was about to get picked up,
and I freaked out. No, I don't want to do it.
(31:13):
I don't want to do it.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
What how long ago was this?
Speaker 3 (31:18):
This was like a year ago.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
It was your dream. It was you're gonna get paid
for your dream.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
So I freaked out because my son goes to a
Christian school.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Okay, okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
But like you know, in three years, it'll be eighteen
and it won't matter anymore.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Okay, okay, maybe I should Maybe I should pitch that again.
Maybe I should pitch it again.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
Do you watch any of the reality dating shows at
all and go, wow, I would be on that one
or I could be good on that one, anything like that.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
No, that's why I I've always created my own shows
because I don't watch any TV, and I just all
I know is how to entertain myself with my solf
of about my life. Like I'm in my own category
of like life. So that's what I would That's I
would want to do my own show for sure, and
and you know, and and date. I wouldn't mind finding
(32:13):
love on camera. I think there's one part of me
that has never been seen before, and that's dating Kendra dating.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
You've always been in a relationship, always been in a relationship.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
That's so fascinating.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
We have to make it happen.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Okay, let's it starts here. It began here, it was
announced here.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
I'm Kendra.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
We just talked actually when we were in La where
you were are right now. We talked with I don't
know if you know who Britney Cartwright is from vander
Pump Rules.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
She's got the Valley.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Now she's in the midst of a very public divorce
and she was going through it still and you could
tell the emotion was raw and real. I mean, she
she's still going through the divorce. Would you have any
advice for her? Having gone through a public scandal, is divorced,
where everyone's writing everything.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
You say, every you know, what would you what advice
would you give Brittany?
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Oh, take a break from the media, like you know,
it's take a major step back and and really focus
in on yourself right now, because you know it could
get super ugly, It can get messy. The more you
give to the media and the and the limelight, the
more you're going to get back. And sometimes it's not
(33:26):
good with what comes back to you. And so it's just,
you know, handle as much as you can in private,
you know, as much as possible. I know, she has
a job to entertain, she has a job, she gets
paid to put her life out there. But do the
best you can with handling you know, the situation in private.
(33:48):
You know, I think their kids or kid is getting older,
you know, to clean, you know, just and be as
giving as possible, even though it hurts, and even though
like that person hurt you like, do as much as
you can to like you know, you know, just know
(34:08):
that you're going to be stuck with this person for
the rest of your life. And do the best you
can with you know, diffusing, diffusing the situation, diffusing any
negative toxicity.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
That's a This is really Candri. This is one of
the reason that I have certainly I think I speak
for robes here love doing I do Part two this podcast.
It has surprised us. I think at every turn to
talk to people, when you there's something everybody thinks about
you when they hear your name. I just heard you
give an answer that you probably cannot imagine an eighteen
(34:39):
nineteen year old Kindra living in that house giving in
terms of advice of get out of the public eye
and handle your personal business. That was such good advice
in my opinion. But were you the girl in that position,
You're giving her the advice that you would have never taken.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
Yeah, yeah, back in the day.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Yes thousand percent, Yes, thousand percent. So there. Like I
said earlier, I come with a lot of regrets when
it comes to show business and media. So I did
handle a lot of my things too publicly and it
you know, and I didn't really see it then because
I was living in the moment, you know, But later on,
(35:23):
later on, years down the line, I look back and
I was like, why did I say, Why did I
do that? Why? Why did I feel the need to
tell the world way too much? You know, And it
just it just gets really messy, really fast. And you know,
you might you might not feel it at the moment,
but later on you will be thinking about it. So
(35:47):
I wish I could turn back time and take back
a few things, you know, Like I went on you know,
after you know, after Hank and I went through our problems,
I went on all these live TV shows and I
just gave all these interviews without healing. I never you know,
I never went through therapy. Instead I used, you know,
(36:11):
the media and entertainment to be my therapy, and that
was the wrong way to do it. You know, I
let the devil in, I let the darkness in instead
of getting the proper support and the proper help and
the proper therapy to truly move forward. You know, I
(36:31):
just got refueled every time I did an interview, every
time I did something, it would trigger me and I
would fall back into a depression. I would fall back
into a depression. I would fall back into a depression.
So you know, like as much as you possibly can't,
you just got to diffuse it as soon as possible,
so you don't just keep living in the same cycle
(36:53):
of of toxicity.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Well, Kendra, I have to say to hear where you
are now and what you said today was nothing but
kindness and love extended towards Hank even you know, towards yourself.
I see, and I think everyone listening can hear. Those
regrets have now created the person who you are today.
(37:18):
So I know, and I hope you feel proud of that,
because it's remarkable to see you use that pain and
those mistakes. But isn't that what mistakes are for? So
we can become better people. So I just I applaud
you for sharing as much as you have today, but
sharing it with love and with kindness. That was beautiful
to hear you talk about your ex husband that way.
(37:40):
And it's a lesson for all of us to learn,
because you know, everyone on the show has exes, right,
and a lot of the folks listening do too. We're
racking them up, but yes, it's it's an important thing
to remember, especially when children are involved. So I just
want to thank you for your openness and just how
youautiful your words have been to mean so much.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Thanks you, Thank you so much for having me. Yeah,
I just think that, you know, it's it's the truth
that we're all human beings and we all are suffering
our own on our own path in some way, shape
or form, and we all deserve you know, I'm not
saying we all deserve forgiveness to some degree. We get
deserve second, third, sometimes third chances, and I think that's
(38:25):
that's how life should go, you know.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
Yeah, all right, and this is she said.
Speaker 5 (38:34):
I can't say anybody than she said.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
It's just been an absolute treat and it's a pleasure
to meet you, and we're going to keep our eye out.
Speaker 5 (38:40):
Reminder.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Yeah, and someone sticks out, please let me, Please let
them know that I'm single. I'm ready to mingle.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
But if he doesn't have a pick up, a trailer
or an NFL contract, he need not apply.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
All take a Lamborghini and a dinner at Noboo Malibu.
Speaker 5 (38:59):
You know that great spot, good good taste. All right, kind,
Thank you so much, Ladys, Thank.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
You, Kendra, Thanks Guy.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
To our listeners out there, we are here to help you.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
Have you been having a hard time navigating your own
divorce or are you ready to get back to dating
but you don't know where to start. Well, you can
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