Big Meech BETRAYS 50 Cent for Rick Ross? 50 Cent Labels Big Meech a RAT? 😳 The Streets Are Talking…

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Like bro, I ain't listen to no mother rap Nicky
with me for the ink drying on your contract for
balling fork jay Z had money, Man, you not man.
Came no to rap Nika tell me nothing if you
ask me, this is on brand for fifty And then
I seen Ross and he dropped this video Peltons look
pet you with.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Rick Ross.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
Like a whole put your back against the wall and
just slide down.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
And I'm thinking fifty is asking him to say, Yo,
you could have did that party with everybody but Rick
Ross and kept your relationship with me.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Big Meat was.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Balling in the early two thousands in a way that
was like unheard of.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Right.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
The lifestyle that rappers are living now meets lived then.
And I think that's important for you to note for
later on in the conversation.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
To understand you gotta stop making business personal.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
Get your money.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
You don't know these these they don't know you. If
anybody going against Ricky Rose, let me have this. I've
been putting my foot up you nick Essence for the
last fifteen years. Everything you Nick touch, crumble.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Loom. Do you think that what happened with fifty cent
was emotional?

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Remember fifty cent. Is that kind of they feel like
you don't get to leave with nothing I gave you. Man,
if I give you fifteen cent, I'm gonna cost you
fifty cent if you leave. Man, if I give you
a dollar, it's gonna cost you five dollars when you leave. Now,
you matter what, stay over here, get this because if
you leave, I'm gonna cost your triple what I made.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
You, biggest boss. I've been separated myself from these brokenness
because they don't understand the rules to the streets. You understand,
don't owe you nothing. Homely, it don't owe you nothing.
Y'all get money together, y'all ni money, keep moving all
that extra shit. You don't even have a relationship with
your own brothers, nigga, your own mothers and fathers. How

(02:05):
the you gonna act like real close with Stop all
that fake captin shit?

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Certain way?

Speaker 1 (02:12):
Can't nobody make me believe me you ain't looking at
rappers like yo, I'm krim, Dela krim. You wanted to
be me, y'all wouldn't even be rapping if it won't
for me. I can I can see that that that
meat feel like his influence is so strong it's I
ain't listening to no rap nigga. Man, can't no rap
nigga or my cotale may no rapping ad nigga or

(02:34):
in my codtale. Man, I'm twenty five hundred keys a
month the fair document, right, I can hear that, But
that's without the smut.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
Why you think rose on top. We don't take this
shit personally. We get into the mother money nigga. Now,
big meach February thirteenth, that concert gonna be off the
mother and hook, putting this foot up, you nigg asses
and leave it in your mother testine.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
So for all intensive purposes, fifty Center is now labeling
big meats a rat, the same big meat he just
had the photo op with the same big meat that
he birthed his son's acting career. It felt, for a
moment that he wanted to honor his legacy, celebrate his imprint,
uphold his heritage, felt like he wanted to venerate his contributions.

(03:28):
But it was something about the interaction with Ross that
sent him down this road.

Speaker 5 (03:38):
Welcome to us up there podcast.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
I am your active.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
And attractive host for another episode of the Coldest Podcast
and all of the land shout out to all my supporters.
You know, it's a blessing coming from where we come
from to have what I currently have.

Speaker 5 (03:58):
So I'll be remiss not to say I.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Appreciate you guys for tuning in and rocking with your boy.
You know, there's a lot to talk about today, you know,
a lot going on in the culture. First of all,
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looked at it and said, you know, I'm gonna have
to build a community, and then building that community, it's

(05:03):
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it's bigger than loan.

Speaker 5 (05:08):
Loan is just a face and my spearhead, and I'm
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Speaker 1 (05:13):
You know, I've learned a loan of years, man that
you have to find your tribe, and in America as
well as abroad, like you got to seek that right.
For example, if you grow up and you want to
be a scientist, then you have to enroll in classes,

(05:33):
enroll in school, enrolling academic activities that will lead you
down the pathway. And so there is where you'll find
your tribe doing the things that you would like to do.
The problem we tend to have is when I make
myself a part of other people's tribe, when I come
in with a mindset that cannot be scrambled by these suckers.

(05:57):
You see what I'm saying, right, I deal with these
dudes understanding they need dprogramming. They gotta be d wormed.
These suckers that been put in a blender, they done
broke the unique a way down.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
To the bare minimum.

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Speaker 4 (07:03):
You know.

Speaker 5 (07:03):
It's a beautiful blessing just to have y'all and to
build on it.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
In twenty twenty five, I was gonna start the part
with the Grammy talk, you know, Kendrick Drake, Doctor dra Lucian.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Grains, jay Z.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Right, it's a trifecta on that side, But the universe
is telling me to start with fifty cent. Didn't meet
your Rick Ross. I'm sure there's a lot of people
having this conversation you know that does content. I'm gonna
try to speak to it a little bit myself. I'm
gonna have a conversation like whoever's listening to me has
some level of understanding of how some of these things

(07:40):
work and the parameters, the rules of engagement, and the
bylaws of how people interact with each other when they
come from the background that we come from. And I
know a lot of times in corporate America and people
maybe that follow us some of the simple mind that
maybe the low IQ, maybe the useful idiots, they have

(08:00):
some arrested development as to why do I always talk
about what we come from and how we came up
and the things that.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Made us who we are.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
And I say to those people, number one, I believe
when you come from a walk of life where there
are no resources, that will be no assistance and there
is no blueprint, that those that find no way out
have a duty to over communicate. I want the people
that came from where we come from, and I always

(08:31):
remember that you can come from then and get to
where I'm going. And the minute I stopped saying that,
and the minute I forget that I came and crawled
out of that little rut. I crawled out of that.
The minute I forget that, then that's me cutting off
consideration for entire category of people that was just like me.

(08:59):
And so I have a responsibility out to say, hey man,
we come from this, and so that's why this is happening.

Speaker 5 (09:04):
But we need to shake that. And it's not right right.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Because I'm gonna talk about fifty cent and I want
people to understand something. Everybody in the street ain't the same.
You grew up in the neighborhood and never sold nothing.
You ain't like this sold weed and this old weed
you ain't like it's so dope, and you dope selling it.

Speaker 5 (09:26):
You ain't like the ones that had have run.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
There's an experience in the neighborhood that's catered to whatever
pathway that you took inside the neighborhood.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
So being from the ghetto is.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
One thing, but being the dope man in the ghetto
is another thing. Being a gangbanger and selling dope is another.

Speaker 4 (09:43):
Right.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Do you understand what I'm telling you?

Speaker 1 (09:46):
And so that's why I'm always offended when they cast
this wide net about street niggas, because.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
It's categories to this thing. And today we're gonna get
into a few.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
And so when I speak about my past, I need
the simple minded folks that follow me listen to me.
That's critical of me, that don't understand the game I
put down is from God tearist king level. When you
don't understand that, I need you to exit the room,
exit the building, and click off the fucking video. I
don't bring my past with me as a burden. I

(10:23):
bring it is proof. I bring my past with me
is proof to let me know I can crawl out
the gutter. You can leave me by myself. I figure
it out. You understand me. I've said it since day one.
I ain't gonna never be quiet about it. I'm gonna
figure it out, regardless or who clock out the fuck God,
it's simple as that hommide.

Speaker 5 (10:45):
That's not to be arrogant.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
That just means the infrastructure I build, I understand it's sufficient.
There's a few CAGs I gotta fill up, but it's sufficient.
Can't nobody in on God's green Earth doing in the
way I do it with what I have.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Man, it just won't happen.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
But I'm gonna talk about fifty I'm gonna talk about Ross.
I'm gonna talk about meat.

Speaker 5 (11:07):
It's a lot to unpack.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
If you're watching this video, you need to hit like,
you need to hit share, and you need to hit subscribing.
You need to let people know and encourage me to
continue to do this because you know, I cannot do
this and just interview, right.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
I cannot even have to do this, brother.

Speaker 5 (11:28):
But at the same time, I enjoy it when y'all enjoyed.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
See, it's clear when you're talking to me, you're gonna
have to hold on to your intellectual honesty. You know,
the stupid shit is not allowed, It's not tolerated. You know,
I'm always going to all things considered, I'm always going
guard till the higher ups it's up. I'm always flygg
it right, I'm always at the top of the mountain speaking.

(11:55):
I'm always feeling like we're going to the very top
of it. And it's okay to have that confidence. But
for people who do not know, we are now about
to talk about the Big Meats fifty cent Rick Ross situation.
If you do not know the bad history of Big Meats.
He was the creative founder of being Meth, which is

(12:17):
black mouth for your family. Its cultural influence was unmatched.
Big Meat was balling in the early two thousands in
a way that was like unheard of.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
Right.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
The lifestyle that rappers.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Are living now meets lived then, And I think that's
important for you to note for later on in the conversation.
Dmetris big Meats is the co founder of Black Mouth
for Your Family, which charged the drug traffic, your money, laundry,
and running a continual criminal enterprise. His charges was conspiracy
to distribute cocaine violating the Controlled Substance Act, money laundry,

(12:53):
operating a Continuing criminal Enterprise c CE under the RICO Act.
He was sentenced to thirty years and he was sentenced
in two thousand and eight after pleading guilty.

Speaker 5 (13:04):
The DA investigations.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Called it Operation Motor City Mafia, revealed that BMF had
distributed thousands of kyloads across multiple US states, including Georgia, Michigan, California,
and Florida. They reportedly had twenty five hundred kilos of
cocaine per month at the height of their operation. His brother,
Terry Southwest T also received the thirty year sentence.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
But was released in twenty twenty. Through the COVID nineteen concerns.

Speaker 5 (13:33):
Big Meats has now been released and it's.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Free, and so Big Meaches out and so he's doing
a welcome home concert and there's a lot of people
that's on the bill in which people are trying to,
you know, Hone's legacy and immortalize its impact on the culture. Again,
if you don't know, you really don't understand, Yo, what
did meet you give to the culture? You know there's

(13:59):
documentaries out you can go see. But he brought a
hustler spirit taking care of your people. You dig what
I'm saying, making sure everybody balling, making sure the strippers
is eating, making sure like anywhere we go the way
is everybody eating. We just really having money from different cities,
all eating getting money if they repping this shit, these

(14:21):
boys is getting it in. He brought that mafia kind
of filling to the black culture, like and then he
got caught this Big Meach Welcome Back Legacy Concert. Little
Baby Rick Ross twenty one seven sixty, Red Koda at
Black forty two, doug istg money Bag, Yo Baltiman and

(14:41):
d Lo T Grizzly, Babyface, Ray Ice Well, Viso Skiller,
Baby pasy pairo g A Fining YTV, Fat tab Boosy,
Young Scooter and more artists to be added.

Speaker 5 (14:53):
Thursday, februaryvery thirteen.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Shout out to the home of ag I see you
on the AG torn So this welcome home party. You
see Rick Ross on there, and you see a couple
of other artists. But immediately the streets start talking. They say, Yo,
we don't see G's on them. Then some people say, Jesus,
we don't see fifty on them, and then light bulbs
start going off. Not only do we not see fifty,

(15:18):
we see Ross on them and we know fitth in
Ross scenario. So then people wanted to consider what scenario
was meet you in and then a video with Ross
and Meats popped up.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
Look at this February thirteen, the big meet you on
beest Bit concert.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
It's gonna be iconic.

Speaker 6 (15:39):
Too many names the list, but let me salute some
of the legends, Little Baby, boss Man, Dilo, twenty one, Savage,
set you inad Ricky Rose. Now this the first time
it has ever been done, Me performing BMF with the icon himself.
The shit gonna be special, efic, get your tickets right now.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
I'm bad And.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
So when you when you see this video, you know.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
Again, there's rumblings online and people in the streets are talking,
but ain't nobody really making it a big deal? They
just watching, you know. I think some of the street
guys I know, making a bigger deal about Jeezus not
being now then they all about fifty and Ross actually
being there. But it's like, y'all, forget First of all,

(16:28):
I'm a counsel, right, and in a minute, we're gonna
get into the emotional thing that people are saying.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Your fifty is emotional man like this and it's just biddiness.
He shouldn't be worried about that.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
I get what y'all saying, But fifty I already told
y'all say.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
When Nicks on the fence, we push him to the
other side.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Is y'all not listening, Mike? Do y'all think nicky joking?
When somebody telling you who they are, you better believe them.
Fifty told you when Niss on the fence, we push
them to the other side. When you come home and
get with Ross and you fifty s and for all
intensive purposes, he feels like, Yo, I kept your legacy alive.
I kept the TV show going birtha career for your son.

(17:10):
If you ask me, Big mech is playing a dangerous
game with Fitty cent because he still owned the life rights.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
He can take that show and he can now bring
up shit in that show that don't paint you in
the best life. And you know, maybe Meach gonna play
it off, shrug it off, like, man, I don't give
a fuck. I've been locked up thirty years. I'm out
here now, I'm my chill now. A lot of them
do a lot of time like that. Really, don't shit
be affected? And them boys be so happy to smell air?

(17:38):
Now them boys was behind you, I be wondering, like
I was asking a bird Man brother, Man, you feel
like running from about that mark?

Speaker 2 (17:47):
I get it, though. Don't nobody want to be in jail,
but y'all do while here killing and drilling and and man,
Nikki feenans to get up out of there?

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Like I asked a bird Man brother who they say
was telling I asked him, I say, Man, couldn't nobody
feel the energy?

Speaker 2 (18:10):
You know how you can tell like.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
There home home and crying and shit, he they want
to go home? Band no month like he really done
turned into a sucker in here. Man, he ain't even
took this shit on the chin. He taking it to
the heart like it's breaking him down.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Like I done. Got calls from the jails man with
nigga killing me man, you.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Know, little sudden and said, yeah, yeah, whatever was out
here going crazy?

Speaker 3 (18:36):
Man?

Speaker 1 (18:36):
He here crying every day. He ain't got no money
on the phone. Ain't nobody sitting him nothing. He don't
do nothing but complain. We don't put him off the chairs.
We keep making him move around.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
Man.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
All he do is complain in here, man, He in
here winding. But a lot of them get out and
they don't ever go back. Some of my homeboys who
in there, who don't care them boys be headed back.

Speaker 5 (19:00):
You gotta respect what the jail do to a nick.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
Now, a lot of y'all niggas you ain't respecting that shit.
I don't want to be there, But you can't break
all colds man.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
You can't be in there after you've done all this
shit and then feeling to get out. But nigga, But
you know what, I respect what a coach is with
this conversation with Mitch and fifty, because it's literally split
down the middle. If you're asking me, I'm gonna say
in its current form, meatch ain't more powerful than fifty.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Fifty is a powerful nigga.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
Like y'all really gotta understand fifty powerful now, Like you
see what I'm saying that I ain't talking about on
no street shit.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
I'm talking about business men. Men. I'm talking about men,
just men, powerful men. Right.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Fifty is a powerful man right now. Mecha, he ain't
got his feet up under him yet. And so you
gotta remember fifty the center is to kind of they
feel like, you don't get to leave with nothing I
gave you. Man, if I give you fifteen cent, I'm
gonna cost you fifty cent.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
If you leave.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Man, if I give you a dollar, it's gonna cost
you five dollars when you leave.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Now, you might stay over here.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Get this, because if you leave, I'm gonna cost you
triple what I made you.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
I'm gonna try to bankrupt you. So when you leave,
you got to build it all over again.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
But what fifty had to understand is meat was meet
before fifty was fifty. We'll get to that in a minute,
but the conversation remains. Should fifty cent had felt the
way when he's seen Big Meats take a video with
Ross's promotens concert. That's what rappers do. They gonna give
you a drop for your concert. If I'm keeping my

(20:42):
intellectual honesty, I'm gonna tell you the truth. He fifty
cent reaction wasn't because of the video. The decision was
made way before the video, right. He knew that Rick
Ross was on the bill before you seen a video.
He probably I knew that Meat was gonna go with
Rick Ross well before you've seen a flyer. So it

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was the decision to even go with Ross that offended fifty.
For fifty, I already told you, Nick, if you on
the fence, I'm gonna do what.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
I'm gonna push you to the other side.

Speaker 5 (21:16):
And so after fifty seves the video and it makes.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
His rounds, the rumblings get louder about YO gonna see
fifty cent and Jesus letting it slide under the radar.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
But it's conversations out there about Jesus not being on
there as well.

Speaker 5 (21:32):
But then fifty post this about me and for my
lawyer listeners.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
Out there, it says the biggest mistake he ever made
was not sustained in the relationship with Tammy Cohen. Her
tell All DOCU reveals the truth and he has a
picture of a rat and it says, I think I'm
Big Meats. So for all intensive purposes, fifty cent is
now labeling Big Meats a rat. The same Big Meats

(21:59):
He just had the photo up with the same Big
Meats that he birthed his son's acting career, and felt
for a moment that he wanted to honor his legacy,
celebrate his imprint, uphold his heritage, felt like he wanted
to venerate his contributions. But it was something about the
interaction with Ross that sent him down this road. Now,

(22:22):
if we're going to talk about Tammy Cohen, that's the
whole podcast by itself, because what's alleged with Tammy Cohen
and some things that I haven't substantiated myself, but there's
some allegations about a guy named Cuffy from Saint Louis
that they're saying that Meach has set up. What's interesting
is I believe that there's people out there that don't

(22:43):
want to see that about me, even if it is
the case, And I think Meach understands that, like y'all,
I just.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
Did all that time.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
And I'm not even man, but there's some people living
with the legacy of Big Meats that like turned they
hustle up, that made them want to take care of
all They homeboard, put chains around nick, buying benses.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
And houses in six different states.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Right, it's dudes that the Meech and the BMF thing
made them go their route, so they don't.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Even want to hear about the cuffee.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
When I seen this with fifty cent, I said, oh,
they go fifty they go, he done got mad, they go,
he on his rampage.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
But he going against meats.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
And so I'm wondering, like, can meetch legacy out weigh
fifty cents influence. It's the first time you're gonna see
street legacy with it versus influence. It's never been done
before in this way. I believe if meech street legacy
was one that it wasn't even no conversation about any

(23:41):
of the cuffey shit. I think that's a different thing.
Like the street legacy of Big Meats is unstoppable. If
it would have had no if it would have had
no mustard on it nowhere, if dudes wasn't even been
saying none of that shit, it's still powerful with the mustard.
Now that's what's crazy about our culture. Now, you can
still be powerful in our culture because lie on you.

Speaker 2 (24:04):

Speaker 1 (24:05):
Throw the rat word around out of time, it may
not be true. And when I saw fifty cent going
that big meats over Rick Ross, I imagine that meets
he don't know how to do this, so he don't
know how to go back and for he don't know
nothing about this shit, and he doesn't saw some of
them old on their legacy with this internet, bro, his
internet start showing. Really, you know, you give your hate

(24:30):
or something to go off. You did what I'm saying.
The more and more you out there, that's why when
you see somebody out there and.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
These really ain't no hate, you know them boys got
to beat. Ain't like Obama? Yeah you remember the.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Republican Party couldn't find nothing on no Obama.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
Yeah Obama was clean as a whostler. You ain't mean so.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
You're dealing with meach. I felt like he wouldn't understand
what to do here. Bag out, But I knew Fitty
and Ross to have a thing. First thing I said
was I fit this brand. This is on brand for fifty.
People are saying this emotional. You know, we'll entertain that
conversation here in a minute. But if you ask me,
this is on brand for fifty. And then I seen

(25:11):
Ross and he dropped this video Pelton.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Look get you with rick Ros You like a hole,
put your back against the wall and just slide down.

Speaker 4 (25:22):
Curtis Jackson, You're more than welcome to bring that Vasashi
Lamborghini to the Call show June seventh.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
And your little homies.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
I know, Auntie Murder, Yeah, I know you got a
Toyota Tundra. I know I can see it in your face.
I'm gonna charge to understand. You gotta stop making business personal.
Get your money. You don't know these these niggas don't

(25:51):
know you. If anybody going against Ricky Rose, let me
have this. I've been putting my foot up you niggas.
That'sis for the last fifteen years. Everything you touch crumble.
Why you think Rose on top? We don't take this
shit personally. We get into the mother money nigga. Now,

(26:12):
big meach February thirteenth, that concert gonna be off.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
The mothercking hook.

Speaker 4 (26:18):
Putting this foot up you nigg asses and leaving it
in your mother in testie nigga calls up bigger enough,
which you wassey the biggest nigga, biggest boss.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
I've been separated myself.

Speaker 4 (26:33):
From these brokens because they don't understand the rules to
the streets.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
You understand.

Speaker 4 (26:38):
Don't owe you nothing, Homie, it don't owe you nothing.
Y'all get money together, y'all, nigga, get money, keep moving
all that extra shit.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
Nigga.

Speaker 4 (26:46):
You don't even have a relationship with your own brothers, nigga,
your own mothers and fathers. How the you're gonna act
like you real close with Stop all that fake capping shit.
That's why you, nigga ain't got no money.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
You need a loan.

Speaker 4 (26:59):
Come see the pass when it's on, comes see the boss.
If sayton, if I ain't saying nothing to you, I
may want to do something to your nigga. It's real,
Ricky Rose, You're looking at a young hustler on pace
to get a b And I'm gonna tell you all this,
and I'm gonna try to understand this. It's only great

(27:19):
entertainment when you.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
Forget it's entertainment.

Speaker 4 (27:27):
Redos you like a hole, put your back against the
wall and just slide down. Curtis Jackson, You're more than
welcome to bring that Versashi Lamborghini to the Call show
June seventh. And your little homies I know them, Auntie Murder, Yeah,

(27:49):
I know you got a Toyota Tundra.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
I know it.

Speaker 4 (27:52):
I can see it in your face. I wanna yall
to understand. You gotta stop making business person no, get
your money. You don't know these these nigga don't know you.
If anybody going against Ricky Rose, let me have this.
I've been putting my foot up you niggas Assis for

(28:13):
the last fifteen years. Everything you nigga touched, Crumbo, Why
you think Rose on top?

Speaker 3 (28:20):
We don't take this shit personally.

Speaker 4 (28:22):
We getting to the Mother money nigga now, big meach
February thirteenth.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
That concert gonna be off the Mother the hook.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
Putting this foot up you nick asses and leaving it
in your mother in the testinle nigga, you know what's
going down? Cast show bigger thanough of Ricky Rose, the
biggest nigga, biggest boss.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
I've been separating myself.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
From these broken ni because they don't understand the rules
to the streets. You understand don't know niggo you nothing
only don't owe you nothing. Y'all get money together, y'all niggs.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
Money, keep moving all that extra shit.

Speaker 4 (28:59):
Niggas don't even have a relationship with your own brothers, nigga,
your own mothers and fathers. How the you gonna act
like real close with Stop all that fake cap and shit.
That's why you ain't got no money. You need a loan.
Come see the boss when its own. Come see the boss.
If taking if it ain't saying nothing to you, I
may want to do something to your nigga.

Speaker 5 (29:20):
And so when I seen this video with Ross, I said, oh,
that was a smart move.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
I can't even capt I was gonna. I wonder how
was Ross gonna address this, Like how was he gonna
come back? Because a lot of people looking at it saying,
your fit.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
They had a relationship with me.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
She were helping his son, got his story going, keeping
it alive, Like damn.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
What's that about? But Ross.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
Ross landed on something that made a lot of sense
and that it is a part of the industry, basically saying,
don't be in your feelings.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
These niggs don'na know. You gonna go left.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
He ain't even really honoring meet you with that of
you asking me, He basically.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Saying, me's doing that.

Speaker 5 (30:01):
You know it ain't nothing but some money involved in
this shit.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
Honor you, Nick, basically what he's said in the fifty
So both of these guys were on brand. Fifty showing
his emotional side. Ross is trying to stick.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
To the boss side.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
And it don't matter what we do, what we want
with these little nigs who don't bother us. You know
that type of vibration. Now people are asking me, Loan,
do you think that what happened with fifty cent was emotional?
And I need people to understand what I was speaking
about earlier. Everybody from the streets don't go through the

(30:35):
same things in the streets.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
So if you were just a.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Dude that grew up in the neighborhood but you never hustled,
my experience was totally different than yours, and things may
be a little bit more dangerous to.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
Me than they are the youth, even though we grew
up next door to each other.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
When we leave outside of our projects or outside our apartments,
what we leave and do dictate our experiences. So we
come back to the neighborhood and you just all they
been somewhat playing the game and the shootouts on the block.
I've been involved in shootouts. He been then shooting at people.
I've been getting shot at. He been the making players

(31:11):
all day. He been the one that they bring and
stolen goods too. So the people who grew up selling
drugs can identify our dool find the ones grew up stealing.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Thank everybody thieves, you see what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
The ones that grew up hustling, think everybody can be hustled.
When you deal with fifty cent of his upbringing, dude
almost lost his life. You know, when you come from
what we come from, you have expectations on things that expire,
and I think that's to a detriment to your emotional
well being. I'm a cancer and we are emotional, So
I can identify with the emotional.

Speaker 5 (31:44):
Side of fifty cent.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Sometimes when he reacts certain ways, I know what it's
coming from. And you gotta forgive me, because you know, again,
what we come from.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
I come from a.

Speaker 5 (31:55):
Game where your word is everything.

Speaker 4 (31:59):
I know.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
Everybody say that right, you may be talking, but I
come from a game where I had to fly somewhere,
drive somewhere deal with some people, and it's all on
our word.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
Everything is our word.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
Everything me and this individual got going on is based
on a nick word. I'm gonna leave him Sidney five
grand over here, and he telling me Wednesday there'll be
a delivery with my name on it. And I trust that,
and I leave that Sidney five k out there. That's
all on our word. Man, that's all on our word.
Or I make a call and make a phone call

(32:33):
and say, Yo, it's here, and a nigga and his
stage and around this money up and bring two hundred
and fifty k over there, just because I called him
based on my word. I ain't showed him nothing, he
ain't saw nothing. Just based on my phone call. He
gonna get two hundred and fifty k and meet me
at some corner, stole me the neighborhood. So I come
from a place where my word hold value. So if

(32:55):
I say I got you, I'm gonna look out for you.
I'm gonna hip you.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
I'ma I mean, that's why you.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Don't see people with me, because if they with me,
I got them like I got me, and they go
for every part of them.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
So I don't play around with that, you see what
I mean? And so think about fifties life. You're dealing
with a.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
Man that been shot nine times in his neighborhood. The
thing about our emotions is they drive results. They drive results,
Like I can get mad in the interview. I could
be in an interview with somebody, don't even feel like
being there.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Just you know what I'm saying. But when they challenge me,
oh this nigga think I'm dumb, and.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
That emotion to make me whip out the intellectual handgun
and yeah, catch your body.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
But if I don't care, not just you know what
I mean, you gotta find a way to turn me on.
I don't want people to sit back and act like
the emotional response is something that is not tolerated in
our environment when a lot of shit is shaped off emotions.
I donet been in parties like yo, man, you know something,
don't feel right. Ain't nobody done nothing, don't nobody look

(34:04):
no kind of way?

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Nick? Thing turned? No right? But I'm just it's a feeling.
It's a feeling.

Speaker 5 (34:12):
Emotions is feeling.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
So it's a feeling that made me say, yo, let's
deal man. Some don't feel right.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
He needs looking or these niggas mug and they broke right.
And so again, when you come from a certain environment,
these emotional reactions have driven results. So I want to
hold some space for fifty cent because he's already told
you guys that if you was on the fence, will
push him to the other side.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Now where I do think fifty made.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
A miscalculation that and we tend to do it and
it really hurt a nigga talk. I think he miscalculated
personal lord to and professional strategy.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
Big Meach is running a play.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
Big meaches being strategic with his relationships, and I'm thinking
fifty is asking him to say, Yo, you could have
did that party with everybody but Rick Ross and kept
your relationlationship with me. But you have to remember Big
meats looking at rapnck a certain way. Can't nobody make
me believe me t ain't looking at rappers like Yo,

(35:09):
I'm krim, Dela Krim. You wanted to be me, y'all
wouldn't even be rapping if it won't for me. I
can I can see that that that that Meats feel
like his influence is so strong it's I ain't listening to.

Speaker 5 (35:21):
No rap nigga.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
Man cain't no rap niggas or my coltel man, no
rapping add nigga oring my coltel man. I'm twenty five
hundred keys a month the fair document, right. I can
hear that, but that's without the smut. But I can
he him going with that, like bro, I ain't listen
to no mother rap nick. Why with me for the
ink drying on your contract for balling for jay z

(35:44):
had money?

Speaker 3 (35:45):
Man?

Speaker 4 (35:46):
You that not?

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Man can't no too rap nigga tell me nothing. That's
how if you ask me, That's how Big Meat's looking
at it. That's if you ask me. And that go
for fifty cent or whoever else you.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Think you can name, because again big me for balling
when did in them need it alone?

Speaker 2 (36:04):
When jay zing them was just not coming up.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
But even deeper than that, I want to talk about
personal lord to and professional strategy and why people are
emotionally attached to some of these business relationships, right because
you hear some.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
Of the niggas pulling out the tricks. That's the game
they play, all.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
These emotional naw y'all, mislid, I thought you a nigga,
thought we was really on the same page, and we
wasn't a lot of the people that's pulling the tricks.
They have a supreme understanding on how people view a
man crime or a man seeking resolution. Right, A lot
of times they think that makes you look weak. But

(36:48):
if you ask me to be vulnerable as powerful.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
To say I've been lied.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
To and let down and and and sent down the
wrong road. If you ask me, it's powerful because that
means I don't give up. That just means this is
my current position, and watch me working, watch me do it.
But part of the reason why black men are emotionally
attached to these business relationships is because.

Speaker 5 (37:16):
People are being deceptive. Let's call us fade to fade.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
It'll be a scenario where they'll act like that, yo,
I ain't know him, like that, why he expec me
to have been?

Speaker 2 (37:26):
Why he expecting me to do this?

Speaker 5 (37:27):
In the form where it's.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
Like, bro, you are promising gold and give a nick
deal and then act like a got no right to
answer about the gold.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
You promised them.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
And so we come from a culture where jay Z
Hall called it lie familiar, and then you got people
like Beni Siegel that are saying two thousand and four.
He needed jay Z to sign off for him to
get out of jail, and jay Z wouldn't do it
because it's been this. But if you ask Bennis Siegel,
I signed this lot familiar. It's Rockefella for life, or

(38:00):
we'll call it. We'll call it then they'll call it
bad boy for life.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
And Jason ma ain't stole my publishing, and I ain't
got none of my publisher But it's for life. But
it's family, it's a unite in front.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
And so the illusion that's being sold in black culture,
it's part of the reason why people are emotionally involved
in business relationships. One thing you know about Lucien Grains,
he ain't gonna call you family universe. Ain't gonna make
it seem like your family universe. Ain't gonna tell you
this my homeboy, this is my brother. This's somebody out

(38:36):
I want to see do good. They gonna say whatever.
The business is the business here, but a lot of
nig with the family shit because he get the most
out of the product. You leave with the family and
the homeboy route because he get the most out the
mother product. All they want is to rap, believe it
and give them less and less. You'll take a change

(38:57):
from your cousin when you really need publishing.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
But it's my family.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
These young men to take a chain and watch a
car because it's their family.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
It's they homeboy. We family won't answer your call in
two years because it's business.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
But part of the deception that comes from black Coat
is what we set it under the guise of one
nucleus of one family.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
Fifty cent.

Speaker 5 (39:25):
Then when it posted about meats more.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
And he referenced little baby, and I guess they said
a little baby poured up on me to they give
you nothing.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
I don't give me now. I don't care who you are.
You don't get no money from me no more.

Speaker 5 (39:40):
I was talking to my homeboy, like my family and
the fids.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
I'm like, yo, when you get out, you know, it
ain't about giving him steady grand fouty grand.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
He can go buy a break in a head. Man.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Look, man, nigga, need to give you a parking lot
that's making five thousand a month. There you go, that's
something you can work on. Give you something to do,
some leagu money, not enough to run off to go
see the plug. It's gonna put you right back in
the trick.

Speaker 4 (40:05):
Bag.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
But I don't get no money away to more and
I don't show big meat ain't no charity case. If
big meat is who Big Me said they is, he
don't need no money from no little baby but nobody else.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
He don't need no pulling up.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
With no money.

Speaker 2 (40:19):

Speaker 5 (40:20):
If you really who you like, I ain't pulling up
with no money on no nick. Really who you say
you here?

Speaker 2 (40:25):
Ain't And I didn't know you like that. If I
knew you, that's a different guy.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
I ain't know you like that.

Speaker 5 (40:30):
I just respect your hustle. I'm gonna pull a push
up on you, show you some love, show you I'm
a line. What you see what you got going.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
I'm gonna pop out for you, make you some money,
but I ain't giving you my money.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (40:40):
With y'all be expecting no charity case e donations around
the bitch or what they're saying about it.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
You know what I mean. I don't really understand it.

Speaker 5 (40:52):
But it said enough for brother, pull up, bro, pulled up,
show this respect.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
You dig what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
And it seems like you're gonna pop out for him
like I don't know but again.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
Set the.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
Number you had doubt that's been disconnect? What the fifty?

Speaker 1 (41:12):
Hold on?

Speaker 2 (41:13):
Wait?

Speaker 3 (41:13):
Hold on?

Speaker 4 (41:13):
Wait?

Speaker 2 (41:17):
Three three weeks?

Speaker 3 (41:18):
Three weeks ago?

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Ship was just good fifty.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
What's going on?

Speaker 5 (41:24):
I get paid to snitch now, nigga's really classified.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
I can't even really talk about this ship.

Speaker 4 (41:28):
My knew.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
Oh my god, I don't reason.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
Don't telling you because you're my boy. But don't you
see what I did the Roger?

Speaker 2 (41:34):
I'm seeing what I did the Roger? Yeah, forty years
years you didn't want to sign that greet.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
Me all?

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Do you know what you get with me?

Speaker 4 (41:45):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (41:45):
You were happy about giving me how much money? Money
they gave me? Forget how much two hundred hours?

Speaker 3 (41:53):
You know?

Speaker 1 (41:54):
The rules is paperwork, paperwork do gotta be showed. You know,
if they ain't putting on paperwork up, I don't think
it's no paperwork got there. I think what they're saying is,
you know a guy, Saint Louis got set up by
somebody and they they mentioned meech and Me's told him something, right,
you got to look into it. If somebody got some

(42:14):
real work out there, or it got something going on,
you know, I'm sure to make its way to us
and we'll and we'll look at it, but you know
it pits fifty cent hour. But one thing about Rick Ross,
you know, the rat thing don't work on Rick Ross
because he was a correctional officer.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
But spec due hustle.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
It's like, no matter who we go up against, you
gotta deal with. He got that hustle card on y'all,
that Nick spec All in America, all through the ghettos.
Say one thing about that Rick Ross. He know how
to get some money. And you know how they doing
the ghettos for money? Like if you got a little
money and look over a few things. Yeah, nah, they

(42:58):
money making me look over few things, man, look over
a few things like a super vile you dig.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
You know what I'm saying. You know, I mean, so.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
The rat shit don't work on Ross. With meach, he's
trying to undermine meat. Again, it's the street legacy versus influence.
I mean, who do you think wins legacy versus influence?
I'm not sure, but I don't want people to sit.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
Back and act like that.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
You know, in our culture, we don't explore those emotional
responses and emotional experiences, and they're interwoven in our culture.
You know, Nigs emotionally weak. They've been through hell. Niggas
is really broke down. They're just strong and keep it moving,
but broke down emotionally been let down them. Ben forgot

(43:50):
about Everybody wants something, want to be forgave, you know
what I mean. So much going on in the committee
sins that nigga. It's a lot that it's wrapped up
in the Black experiences excusal when you get to make
it to the other side

Speaker 5 (45:00):
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