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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You know, man, I was in that kind of jail. I
sat in that kind of jail for a whole year.
A lot of people, you know, got ghosts on me
during this four year stint.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Man, you know, King came down there and.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Subjected himself to searches and the way they discriminated against us,
and the way they treat us down there, and the
system to come down there and see me while I
was in their system, and he did everything he could
do to come down there to the penile system to
see me, but the system was so corrupt and so
caught up till there was no way to get him in.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
There, said man, when I was in the pen Kings,
don't help me down because he wouldn't the pimps that
y'all know. Butm B kicked it off and j Pittz
Hey man, uh free PEMPC. You know they all, Mike
Jones all started, Paul Waller start.

Speaker 5 (00:50):
How you end up being the only one hold him down?
Though they had a whole campaign, didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
I'm talking about are you new generations? While that we
should watch the stuff and now started, Man, stay over here, man,
you messed with classic coachs over here, man, straight up
you got classic coach and new generation over pips Man?

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Which one are you?

Speaker 4 (01:12):
Man?

Speaker 5 (01:16):
But they inspect the rappers that played Pimp. Look that's
that's my fault again. But what kind of dude was

(01:46):
pim C Man?

Speaker 6 (01:47):
Well, PEMC Man was a real dude.

Speaker 5 (01:49):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
You know, he was very emotional. He said what's on
his mind? I remember a funny thing.

Speaker 7 (01:55):
Man.

Speaker 6 (01:55):
Emotional ain't good to say, bro.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
I mean, you know when I'm saying, famil the game
is what not not in most though, what they call
us impulsive?

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Sure?

Speaker 2 (02:05):
What up?

Speaker 4 (02:06):
PMC?

Speaker 6 (02:06):
Talk to me, homeboy?

Speaker 4 (02:07):
What's going on with this stuff in the ozone magazine? Man?

Speaker 6 (02:09):
An A town is kind of furious to tell me
how you took it.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
I'm gonna tell you what I meant.

Speaker 5 (02:14):
Okay, let me tell you what the A town is
saying A town is basically saying, you know, why you
do they think you dissing in Atlanta?

Speaker 6 (02:20):
Talking about Atlanta's not not the.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
South all that.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
I used to live in Atlanta from ninety sixty two
thousand and one.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
Okay, all right, that's the first thing.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Second thing is this, When I get off the airplane
in Atlanta, what time.

Speaker 7 (02:34):
Is It's whatever time it is out here, honey.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
The standard time.

Speaker 6 (02:43):
No, did you make any money with this with pepsi?
But then that is man. Man, I've been on sixty
million records. I get published if we don south TLC
sale now.

Speaker 5 (02:55):
But but but it's saying my own publisher, did you
make some paper with.

Speaker 7 (03:01):
That?

Speaker 6 (03:01):
Niggas want to moved me to death?

Speaker 4 (03:04):
Exactly, my man, Lord loans old loan.

Speaker 7 (03:10):
Okay, okay, opsmun is up there and stuck that nick
when it's up there, Man, it's stuck there.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
Shut up.

Speaker 5 (03:20):
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Speaker 6 (05:02):
I had the days mixed up, but we got the
we got the job done. We got pimp and Ken.
What's going on?

Speaker 4 (05:08):
Bro? Hey man, ain't nothing but airplane in white? That lord,
that's Lord. How you feeling with.

Speaker 6 (05:14):
My hands and my toes?

Speaker 4 (05:16):
You know? Every now and then, you know, mighty catch
somebody from some hose.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
It's fucking with you.

Speaker 6 (05:22):
Man, out the game, Man about out the game?

Speaker 4 (05:25):
Hey man, just like uh, you know Michael Jordan's uh
Kobe uh you know, uh my man, Larry Bird, Magic Johson.
You know they was in the NBA. I was in
the n PA, the National Pimp Association.

Speaker 6 (05:38):
You did, right, but you retired, So what chatting? I
retired at the two three of the peat. Michael Jordan's okay,
how long you been retired?

Speaker 4 (05:47):
Man? It had to be since the mother showed that
movie Really Really Pipped This Soft. They put my my
movie pep Algy in court. That was about they put
it in court, sir child in.

Speaker 6 (06:00):
School year Atlanta, Red got caught up.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
They had a movie called Really Really Pipping the Sell
and they put my movie in the court and they said,
this is another movie that was in Florence and yeah the.

Speaker 6 (06:11):
Pimp, I said, okay, if that's the case.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
Then well I might here like last year, so I
backed up like those jays has been up out this
like the bike can you know?

Speaker 5 (06:20):
So okay, but they didn't have you in court. Hell,
you on some on some white slavery pip like light.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Man.

Speaker 6 (06:28):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (06:28):
To beat the indictment. You just let me. I was smashing,
you know, for my ration with no passion.

Speaker 7 (06:33):
Man.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
You know like I said, Man, you know I'm like
the gingerbread man, catch me if you can't.

Speaker 6 (06:38):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (06:39):
Yes, lo, I just be wondering because you know you've
been at the top of the this game for a while, right.

Speaker 6 (06:45):
You know what I'm saying. I've seen niggas with little
status that you get caught up in things. You know
what I'm saying. So it's called miss pimper. Yeah you
got to be slick. Yeah, miss Pipper ain't no pippot
at all. Is non contact sport.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
A lot of the things men they run out of game,
they put their hands on the man and that's what
get them caught up. You see what I'm saying. So
you know one thing you got to do. You got
to understand that the game is a mind game. So
it's a game of psychology. You know, you got to
play a mind game. You know, you can't never control
the bra unless you can control the head.

Speaker 6 (07:13):

Speaker 4 (07:14):
You control the head, you control the bread. So a
lot of dudes, you know, they try to control the body.
They you know, they try to be coxmen, you know
what I'm saying. So other worse, they let their little
head all smart the big.

Speaker 6 (07:23):
Head and then they end up caught up. Yeah, you
think gorilla pivot, get it up. Yeah, man, we don't
put but guillas and gorillas, you know what I'm saying.
What I'm saying, You know, we.

Speaker 4 (07:33):
Run off the track. You go knocked up for autist. Man, Hey,
he putting hands on you. Don't put players on you.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (07:40):
Lord, what was the prime years of your your run?

Speaker 4 (07:43):
Well in ninety six, ninety seven, ninety at one, Pimp
of the Year, International pip of the Year, Local pivoty
I want every trophy it was so at that time.
Now I'm about the black and white mint to the game,
about the big crown rings and you know young having money,
you know, hundred thousand dollar bus downs from Jacob before
you know who Jacob was shopping with Uh, what's that

(08:05):
Tito down the street or Seventh Avenue, New York.

Speaker 6 (08:08):
I was Jacob, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
He was a kid, when he was a kid kid,
you know, I think his family first put him into business.
So you know, he was just seeing that, you know.
And I always had the baddest you know what I'm saying.
So that's what that's what made me pimping kid. But
I didn't know that I was pimping kid. I didn't
know that.

Speaker 6 (08:24):
I was a cold game.

Speaker 4 (08:26):
You know. I was just living it, you know what
I'm saying. Cause my daddy was in the game. My
daddy was a hustle and to pimp. My uncles were
hustles and pimps, you know what I'm saying. So I
grew up and I just was doing I thought that
was naturally in me. I didn't even I don't even
feel like you said I'm gonna be a pimp and
all that. I didn't feel like that, you know what
I mean. It was just like, you know, once I
got in the game, I just said, what's the roots?
You know what I'm saying. And you can't win a game,

(08:47):
lets you know, the roots, so I knew the rules
of the game, and that's why I was you know,
I know, man, you know you couldn't do this, You
couldn't do that. You know you couldn't you know, you
couldn't be riding around with you know what I'm saying.
But you know you can't, you know, get mad if
you take your you know what I'm saying, take your
said you got to you know, take the accept the servant.
And I learned those rules at a young age. And
I learned the most important rule that you got to

(09:09):
go to the doctor to have a triple bypass, but
you got to help all the simpty remove out your heart.

Speaker 6 (09:13):
So you know what I'm saying, you can't peep if
you're in your feelings. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (09:16):
Me, he said, a lot like the way the pussy
feel Pippley kill, like the way to pussy pay the bill.
So that's when I was at my prime, at that
at that mindset, just having that, you know, like I
don't give a far And then you know, I always
tell this story, I said, you know, my disdain for
women come from me being molested by my uh my
babysit when I was street.

Speaker 6 (09:37):
Let go right there. Yeah, she raped me.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
Then my mama left me for dead in prison for
five years, so I had to disdain for her too.
So you know what I'm saying. It was just like
I told, like I told Charlemagne. You know, I think
I was uh what you call that. I was something
for mental illness, you know, because I couldn't I could
wrap myself for I had no feelings. I could wrap
myself around a woman. I didn't fall in love until
my daughter was born. That's why I.

Speaker 6 (09:59):
First experienced real love my first daughter. I was thirty
years old. You know what I'm saying. I would even
man a brow.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
I had to literally put a hole in the condo
to get you know, to get my seamen. I didn't
want to have no kids nothing. I was just that
you had one in thirty Yeah. Yeah, because that was
after being in the game as a young dude, just
mashing and crashing and study asking you know what I'm saying,
not even you know, even thinking about just give them
direction to hit the next intersection, you know, keep him
on the chase for a big face. You know, that
was my mentality. I wasn't thinking about no, you know, hey, man,

(10:29):
you know, you know, I love this bro, you know
because my old g Pip and Pope made rest in peace.
He gave me that game when we was in the
cell of the penitentiary in Green Bay Reformatory School. So
you know, I was young and he you know, I
was asking him why he was in prison. He told
me he was in prison. I said, man, I missing
Soning Man, he said, I read. I read the ice
pers Slim books. I read the dollar go on the book.
I missed ther sut. He said, you can't have no

(10:51):
sympathy for He said, ain't no differencetween the in pocket
out of pocket pretty much ugly. She said, you pepped
his saying on all of them. And once I learned
that that was the mission Ingredy all the other stuff
he was that was theatrics.

Speaker 6 (11:04):
Know what I'm saying this theater? Yeah, you ever have
a girlfriend working for you?

Speaker 4 (11:09):
Well, you know, uh, my first and conor with the
pimpant I was sixteen. You know, my partner J. D.
Jive Divine from the East side of Milwaukee. He you know,
he's one of the power heads and dude I grew
up hustling with. He gave me a broad name dirty Red.
And you know what I'm saying, me, that's really like
my first real girlfriend.

Speaker 6 (11:30):
You know what I'm saying. Everybody else after that was
like that.

Speaker 4 (11:34):
You know, I like and I fall what I thought
was in love with him in there and break my heart.
You know the chick that I liked the most beautiful
darkskin his sister. Man, I was about twelve years old.
I walked there and seen her in the bed with
a thirty year old man. He busting it down. You
know what I'm saying. I mean, I'm like, whoa, you
know what I'm saying. I walked out the house.

Speaker 6 (11:56):
It was her house.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
You know what I'm saying. Mama was gone.

Speaker 5 (11:58):
You couldn't have just walked up. I like, guess something happened.
Well some had to happen. Yeah, yeah, Man, my heart
got broken.

Speaker 6 (12:05):

Speaker 4 (12:05):
If I meant address it or nothing, well, well you
know not, because I was scared to do. He was
bigger than me, as a grown man, like, I can't
beat this grown man up. It was nothing I could do.

Speaker 6 (12:14):
I was I was fearful, I was heartbroken.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
I was like, man, and I think that's another reason
why you know I was such a great pelp. You
know what I'm saying, because I never I never got
rid of that trump. I had post traumatic stress disorder.

Speaker 6 (12:26):
On the beach. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (12:27):
This person played me. You know what I'm saying with
the wood. You know, I remember I.

Speaker 6 (12:31):
Went and stole some rings and it was some me
and means some.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
Lady means I gave him on the little lady rases
like you know, man, I really like this Brad.

Speaker 6 (12:38):

Speaker 4 (12:39):
But you know, and she know I'm talking about you know,
you know she is you know what say I mean.
But you know it kind of shaped me. You know,
I believe in the Christian faith they say the steps
of a good man's ordered by God. You know, God
know what you're gonna do before you do it. So
I think you know, in the game, you know, it's
certain things that you go through that develop you and

(13:00):
create you become the person that you are. You know
what I'm saying. I'm not just pipping can for a reason.
You know, I'm not winning all these piple the years.
I'm not you know, knock for the for the every
big time pip I didn knock him for the You know,
most an't got a phone call for me. Hey man,
I'm here to shave you do, but you should let
you know this some new rules, you know what I'm saying.
We break the plate, don't eat there no more. And

(13:21):
they was like, man, you know what I'm saying. Me
when I was in d C, I just fouled out
from my man sego. I can't say that the people
who was gonna do it, but they was plotting to
kill me. That's how the atrocious I was on the track.

Speaker 6 (13:32):
You know what I'm saying meant it's a non context. Yeah,
but these were no pills. They were sims, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
But they wanted to kill me because they said in
d C you can't sweat certain but you know me,
I was sweating every day they were locked down. You know,
I was a hyper super prostitute. You know what I'm saying.
I was mashing with no passion. And you know these
had a buddy buddy system. I wasn't a part of that.
I'm from Milwaukee to d C. I'm from a gangster town.
You know what I'm saying, y'all. I won't to smoke

(14:00):
if y'all you know WHI chy'all want to do. I called,
they gonna come up here in twenty seconds if you
get out of pocket.

Speaker 6 (14:06):

Speaker 4 (14:06):
But I ain't thinking like that. I'm thinking like, yeah,
like you just said, it's a non contact sport. But
Segull was telling me, man, they was mad because I
was sweating all that's all I would do all day?

Speaker 6 (14:17):
What do that mean when you say sweating? How do
you knock it? How you knock?

Speaker 4 (14:22):
So I might I might see if hey chill send
me to those opportunities over to Hey, She'll send me. Hey,
it's Pippy kN for the record. You know what I'm
saying me, Hey, not the records, far for the album.
And I'm saying, hey, I know you try to make
the mistakes for Foster play. Hey, come on, yes, say
and give it take a chance in the vans. So
you just talking like that. You follow her and you
chased it down the blade and she running and say, hey,
I know he told you not to look okay, to

(14:42):
sneak and take a pick. Yeah, Pippy kid, you know
what I'm saying me, Hey, tellest me I throw k
pay their candy bars say hey, take a pippy, can't
pay that. You know what I'm saying, I'm just sweating them.
That's what that is. That's called sweating them. You know
what I'm saying, Just getting at it. And that's all day.
And that was me. You ver said me. Niggas didn't
like that because they I was good. I had the lingo,
you know what I'm saying, me all my shoes like

(15:03):
you know, I can think of it. It was original, you
know what I'm saying. I ain't I didn't fight for
you know what I'm saying. Said it was like they
was threatened by then. I was a nice looking young
man that when I was young, you know I'm saying me,
you know, nice and healthy. I you know benepending me
a little cut, you know. And you know I dressed nice.
I ain't wearing number thows dollar shoes, you know, thound
dollar shoes, forsachi or money.

Speaker 6 (15:23):
And you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
Some of them say even though they had today's not
a dress, their shoes would be run down. They gave
us to be you know, my gas, I twitch gaters
every day, you know what I'm saying. And I and
I learned through an older PELLP named Rob Robinson out
of Milwaukee. You're someone Milwaukee giants, he told me. He said, Man,
the key of this game is to stay looking good,
he said, he said. Let the niggers sell it the dream.

(15:46):
But when you pull up, you beat the motherfucking dream.
So say, we're gonna get we gonna get rose, We're
gonna get this, We're gonna get that. When I'm pull
up on all that. So look at me and she like,
I gotta take the napew out of my pocket, of
my handkerchief and white eyeballs off my head because she
out of pocket got reckless. I bought, Oh, you know
what I'm saying. And then i'm I'm I'm.

Speaker 6 (16:06):
Getting so is the broad don't popost to look at
no hell.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
No, man, that's that's taboo. You can't look at it
when walk past, you hold your head down. You understand
you can't hang out with another uh uh PEPs horse
called hocialized. You can't hocialize with another you know what
I mean. It's like you know, I mean, it's a
real serius pivot, man, because the reason why if a
woman this is the only way we had an indication.
If my looked at you little, that means that my

(16:32):
like you know that they try to choose and you
know you got action at the telling you you got
action too, you understand.

Speaker 5 (16:39):
Mean so that just off the look though your disease?
Or is it just on the blade that this go for?
I know you can't be at Walmart and the look
and you think she going or do the rules apply
all across the board? No, it only applied to the
pivot on the on the blade on the blade on
the blade, because you know, the blade was the best
state because it was like it was so cold that

(17:01):
you know, you know when you got action.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
If if if I'm riding in my in my beers
on my lap and do this, then I ride back
you do this, I'm back bending back on, I'm going
hard on the jumping out the car, popping you know,
pop pop, you know what I'm saying. Then you know
it's like, you know, said, what's up t you trying
to do?

Speaker 6 (17:20):
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 (17:20):
You try to advance? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, Okay,
come on, getting the car, throw the money in the
back seat. What's that thing? What's remember?

Speaker 6 (17:28):
Okay, oh it's it's a seven or two. He for Vegas. Yeah,
I'm looking at the service. Vegas.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
Ain't say man, woo the woo the wool. You know
what I'm saying. I mean, And it's that that's simple.
So now you're telling me they want to kill you
about this?

Speaker 6 (17:43):
Help? No, no, not.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
That was from DC that ran d C. They was
some like some mafia tackles and they had a little
block that they controlled the pimping with, you know what
I mean. And you know everybody respected them because they
were some killers. You know me, I'm from Milwaukee, so
we don't give if you're a killer or not. You
know what I'm saying, I'm working. You know what I'm saying.

(18:06):
I mean, you know what I'm saying. So I'm I'm
pressing these and he's telling me to stop pressing Seego
telling me man chill. I was like, yeah, man, that
shit man, we pimping man. And I said tell him.
You know, we got a saying in Chicago if you
set one, if you sweat one, you set one. So
if I'm set, if I'm sweating, your upsetting, you know,
send me so my is down too. You got action too,

(18:28):
you know what I'm saying, then you like I said,
when you knock it, even after I knock, I said, look,
you got twenty four hours to get this back of
the might be making a mad move. I might really
not trying to choose. It might just be we call
it a mad but you know sometimes we get mad.
They choose up on the pimping, so we say you
got actions after twenty four hours.

Speaker 6 (18:44):
Up said me. You know, hey, man, let this hold
some money.

Speaker 4 (18:47):
Man. You know what I'm saying me, And that's how
we move. You know what I'm saying. That's how the
game was, and that's how I played it. You know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (18:52):
And you know, look when I was looking at some
old yours, I said, man, Pimpse took a liking the bro.

Speaker 6 (18:58):
What was it about you? You thing Pempcy? What well?

Speaker 4 (19:02):
You know, pemp We met at the Sharp Tom Marlin Houston, right.
So I had a black mink on. He had some
mink shoes on. So I said, uh, damn, man o
some nice shoes. I ain't know. It's pempc right. He
said that's a nice coat. And he looked at me
and said, man, Peppy can for pimps down I said
you uh you like that, dude? He said, oh, Pemp

(19:23):
Sea for piking from the stone. And man, we left
and we went to the Mama house that day. And man,
ever since then we've been friends. Who was inseparable, right,
And so when he went to jail, I was there
when he up the strap on the bar right, you know,
I'm in there, you know, and with the with the wool,
you know, Pemp you know back then he was doing
this thing, and you know, so he had like, you
know what I mean, I want to talk. Yeah, so

(19:45):
uh he tripped out and then uh so what happened
was what got us cool, was he went to jail
that day.

Speaker 6 (19:53):
We were supposed to do something.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
We did a song called uh with your Diamonds on
for my album uh Boss Pimps. So I had the
ime out with Chick Boss and John Doe and another thing.
And there if I do just made rest in peace
out of Kentucky. You know what I'm saying, because I
was in the game that early, right, I was early
in the game, back in the ninety nine and ninety eighties.
In two thousand, So when he went to jail, I

(20:16):
went straight down to the jail and I started visiting,
you know what I mean. And I was, you know,
walking through him. I think they hit him on some
kind of medicine.

Speaker 6 (20:23):
You know.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
I said, Man, pimp, you know what I'm saying, Man,
comfort the ship. Man, I did team Man, I said,
I did T in the P and minute. Ain't nothing man,
you know, it ain't nothing but adjustment, you know what
I'm saying me. So, and then I sent them. I
had to send him naked pictures. You know what I'm
saying me all the while he was in there. So
when he came home, you know what I'm saying, he
asked for me. He said, what king that? You know

(20:45):
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Mean?

Speaker 4 (20:45):
And you can see the movie. I got best of
both words said, man, when I was in the P
and Kings, don't help me down, you know what I'm saying.
So that was one of the things, you know, you know,
And I didn't try to do it because he wouldn't
to pimp. See that, y'all know. Bom B kicked it
off and j pritz Man free pimpc you know, then
all Mike Jones and all started, Paul Waller started.

Speaker 5 (21:06):
How you end up being the only one hold him?
Down though they had a whole campaign.

Speaker 4 (21:10):
Then well yeah, well you know, Jay Prince and all
of them, you know they probably you know, some probably
don't want to go to the penitential, you know what
I'm saying. You know, and you know they held him
down the campaign. But this was Pimp said, I did
just say this. I don't know who held him down.
I know this what he said on best of both worlds.
So by him saying that, then that just kind of,
you know, solidified our relationship. But you know, bum Bee

(21:32):
held him down. To bum Bee was uh, he had
the free pem C. You know, Mama, Mama West, all
of us doing that, you know what I'm saying. So
you know, when he came home, then we started with
each other.

Speaker 6 (21:42):

Speaker 4 (21:43):
You're here, you know I had this two thousand. It
was that year SL fifty five converted with Bens. He
liked it.

Speaker 6 (21:50):
The compressor when he said in that song, a driver compressor.

Speaker 4 (21:54):
He was driving. My take my my bins, I take
his little Bisley and we're ride. Then we should go
up and down, uh from Houston to pour outa together
all the time. You know, you know, I had to
cheer with his match and I know his kids, you
know his wife and all that.

Speaker 6 (22:07):
So we was cool. And then one of your homeboys,
d J.

Speaker 4 (22:10):
Jones. You know d J. Jones. Yeah, he was with
us too, So he the one invested in the movie
Best of Both Worlds. So I kind of helped Pim
get like about three hundred thousand from Jones. He was
one of the biggest hustling back then, you know, in
in Naeville. So we you know, even Paul, you know all.
You know what I'm saying, you know, Tim and Terrell,

(22:31):
all those Moneys. You know what I'm saying. I'm really
heavy in Natville with all them you know, priests, all them,
these all my little little you know what I'm saying.
When I was pamping, you know, they were getting.

Speaker 6 (22:41):
Get you you you would down here with the pimp man.

Speaker 4 (22:44):
Well you know he was just man. Nasville have different
kinds of money, man, Yeah, come.

Speaker 6 (22:50):
On, man on me right now. They got us in Nasville.

Speaker 4 (22:56):
Don't know a man for the record, Bigga d Man,
Hey Mand was so rich. Man. This had a truck
and the truck man had nothing but one hundred dollars
bills like a like the you know, the cap and
then Paul Paul Paul used to ride with us. Yeah yeah, yeah,
big bus stous man way back in Tim and Terrell.

Speaker 6 (23:18):
They gave me thirty thousand dollars.

Speaker 4 (23:20):
They did a jay Z concert. We was talking about
that on Matt Hoffer and they did. They did a concert.
They gave me thirty thousand just to follow them around,
and man, hey this how this how cold it was?
P I swear to God on my mama. I mean
we we had a show that they was doing. He
had like five roll lexus is about two hundred and
fifty thousand in a row. So I had to join

(23:41):
the suite to them. I walked in the room, I
see the money. I'm scared. I think it's a setup.
This money man, y'all ain't even put me in the truck.
So you understand. They was like, man, that ain't nothing
in Nashville. Got different money, man, Man, hey they got
us drugs and Tim ahead the biggest drug case this

(24:02):
b it's a drug hug if you know, you know,
like this one of them towns where I'm telling you listen, bro,
when I be going places, it did not be seeing
the money people have put up and the money they
working with.

Speaker 5 (24:15):
I'm like, and I come from this man, man, I'm
a product of this ship.

Speaker 6 (24:20):
Man D gave the pm C three. Who do you
think bird Man and them? They brought them niggas all day?

Speaker 4 (24:28):
You know what cars And that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (24:33):
When they first popped off, you gotta think New.

Speaker 5 (24:35):
Orleans really got a different kind of vibe about them.
They we we we really the hustlers. The jurelry Wining
was like, that's really us and they was down here
go listen to the early ship.

Speaker 6 (24:47):
We had heavy influenced with that man the cars in
their video.

Speaker 4 (24:52):
Hey, okay, you remember let me tell you a fun fact.
You remember t I P Yeah, that was the Richinal
a rap label that Buck was signed to.

Speaker 6 (25:01):
Yeah it Shore was was yeah, yeah, so I was.
They had the song with Murder Rich and our Pistol
and all of them.

Speaker 4 (25:11):
So so the Buck get on when he was hanging out,
because because if it went for Tim and Terrell, it
would have never been no a Buck with them and
then juvenile telling uh Buck to go for fifty. I
know the the Bucket tell you that's why when you
see Bucket my movie together, he said, my kid been
with me since I was a kid. I watched the
whole process. I know, I know the whole cash money story.

(25:33):
I remember we went to the office. Many had like
three three.

Speaker 6 (25:36):
Little little little rooms in there.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
And to remember Tim and Terrell, Now, they was giving
them money like that way back in the day. They
get They brought jay Z and cash Money at the
Height to Atlanta at the A Trail. I was there,
That's why I first met Ja.

Speaker 7 (25:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (25:53):
Yeah, they throw They was throwing bottles and just because
we were fans of them down through here, we'll go pay.

Speaker 6 (26:00):
They got Birdman off the back of CD and just
hit them folk.

Speaker 5 (26:03):
They were booking. They still do that down here to
this day. I got homeboard man. That's in the streets.
They got songs with your favorite rappers. They don't even
give a fuck about them. They just win it.

Speaker 6 (26:14):
They just like they went and gave him a fifty
or something.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
That's what That's what d did with the Penci d
S just gave that. They said he said much twenty
five through that.

Speaker 5 (26:25):
But you know what I be telling them, they be
making a mistake. They got to invest their money right. Yeah,
I know, man, we're playing with a lot of money.
But what happened is a lot of like my cousin,
he on the fresh team, they go in the house,
they get seven hundred thousand. Ain't supposed to be seven
hundred thousand at one place nowhere ever, you see what
I'm saying. So it's a mistake to begin with. But
that's how hard it's going, you know. And they catch them.

(26:48):
And this is the thing about the Feds. When they come,
it's almost like they know you about to re up.
It's like they know I he should be about out.
He probably got all cash. Let's get him because it's
like it was for him. What he tells me is
that it was like I had just I was finna
go do something. And when I was finna go do something,

(27:09):
they came and they got all the goddamn money.

Speaker 6 (27:12):
You know what I'm saying. So the fars got a
different kind of game.

Speaker 5 (27:15):
That's why I asked you, and that's why I think
it's interesting that you've been pushing that line so long
and being able to escape that.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (27:23):
I'm telling you that because they the statistics is play
against that.

Speaker 6 (27:26):
What you do the ten years for bank robbing, I
was a gangster folk you know. So he was a
bank robbing kind of nigga. Yeah, I was.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
I was robbing banks and slapping pistols, you know. I mean,
I'm from Pete. I'm telling you the greatest pimps out
of the greatest gangsters. Because when you match on that
and you know you used to robbing jewery stores and
robbing banks and shit and getting thirty forty thousand part
you want that hole, you put that in the hole.
Like look, bitch, you know what I'm saying, bit this
ain't enough money because you get used to money. So

(27:56):
when you come from money and you get into the pimping,
that makes you at a pimp because now you're not
a level of bitch.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Up.

Speaker 4 (28:02):
See my bitch going the strip club. She pulling out
that motherfucker with ten fifteen thousand a night, nigga, Say
how you do that, my bitch? When she turned it,
when she get in the motherfucking uh, when she get
in the motherfucking vip, you know, and the trick buy
some wings. She'll put eight hundred dollars gratuity. Then people
another seven hundred to at the end of the night, so.

Speaker 6 (28:22):
They whibbling them with the gratuity yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (28:24):
Because the club got to get the bitch to gratuity.
So we we busting real motherfucking game. You know what
I'm saying. Men were getting in for We getting in
for real, and they can't really understand how the fuck
is these niggas getting all this money. So that was
that was just how we was doing it back in
the day. You know what I'm saying. Man, You know,
motherfucker just come from the game and come from hustling
and having money first.

Speaker 6 (28:44):

Speaker 5 (28:44):
But so you say you was a gangster a bank
rob back back then, I thought the pimping don't like
the gangster shit.

Speaker 6 (28:51):
But you know, you know, everybody come from something, right, Yeah,
what was your hustle? I sold some shit.

Speaker 4 (28:58):
What would you doing before yourself? Oh he was going
to school. You was doing it right there, So we
got to come from somewhere. I just come up and
I'm a pimp.

Speaker 6 (29:05):
You know, of course not.

Speaker 5 (29:07):
But it's an interesting dynamic because some of the pim
niggas will argue that the gangster ship, they ain't got it,
they don't want nothing to do with that.

Speaker 6 (29:14):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
When I got p I dropped the g and picked
up the p So you understand me. That's what you do.
You learn and you get in the game. You know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (29:24):
Ain't nobody just coming in the game knowing this ship.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
That would be fucking you.

Speaker 6 (29:29):
Not knowing it.

Speaker 5 (29:29):
But but some niggas coming in the game and don't
got the gangster trade in them.

Speaker 6 (29:33):
Man, even to begin with, no.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
You no, you shake the gangster, shake the gangs, I said, bullshit, pimp.
Most pimps are gangsters.

Speaker 5 (29:41):
That's what I'm wondering, because I'm wondering how you cut
that off though, because I do a nigga go from
I tear your head off to hey man, this ship
here none contact sport.

Speaker 4 (29:52):
I'm gonna show you how. Right. So you a pimp? Right,
you're a pimp, right, that's now right. Pimping ian Je
is a verse.

Speaker 6 (30:00):
I mean, I'm not going send the bitch. You see
what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
Once you get your I n G and you see
all the money that you can get off of a
bitch versus you know what I'm saying, you going out
there and ribbing and selling drug. Hey man, you're gonna
drop everything. Hey man, it's a nine okay, man, this
is what I gotta do to break this bitch. This
is who I gotta do to be accepting this community
of pipping. Then I'm gonna do all that shit. And
that's what That's what, That's what changed me. Because when
I first went to DC, let me tell you, I

(30:24):
went with a nine millimeter. My nigga grit pulled me
to the site and to say, man, can this is
a non contact sport. Man, you can't do that Milwaukee shit.
I said, Man, I ain't going nowhere without my Nina. Man,
you know I love me and I love this bitch.

Speaker 6 (30:36):
You know what I'm saying. I mean, he said, no,
you can't do it. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (30:38):
Mean, And then you know, you start developing gang So
now when I wear my jewelry, if I see some gangsters,
you know, say, I'm gonna tuck my ship. You know
what I'm saying. You ain't tucky, No, No, that's what
I'm saying. This is what I'm saying. Don't. No, No,
what I'm saying. You don't if you're in the streets
and you got done, you ain't talking. But if you
if you pipping, you ain't got no pistol, and you
pip with your mind. He's like, man, these little for

(31:00):
to get me. So I got shot three times with
no millimeters. So niggas try to take my You gotta
stand on it. If you tuck it, I ain't not.
But you gotta sign no. No what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (31:09):
It's smart though, you gotta get you gotta play the smart.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
I don't know. Let me let me explain Tucky. So
when I'm saying, Tucky, you don't wear your jewelry.

Speaker 6 (31:16):
Around, yeah, I don't even say. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (31:18):
You know if you ain't can see when your pimpy,
you ain't got no pistol.

Speaker 6 (31:21):

Speaker 4 (31:21):
It's a non contact what you pipple with your heads
and mind game. So you know I'm saying you ain't
fitna be walking around and just being a lunch meat.

Speaker 6 (31:27):
You know what I'm sayings will take you off.

Speaker 4 (31:29):
Yeah, you know what I mean. So you know you pimp.

Speaker 6 (31:31):

Speaker 4 (31:31):
That's how you able to navigate that. You know what
I'm saying me like, you know you ain't going nowhere
When you know.

Speaker 6 (31:37):
Here's the interesting dynamic, bunch of shooting this ship. Yeah,
but here's the interesting dynamic.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
Right.

Speaker 5 (31:41):
So you see a bunch of niggas coming, you might
gotta get prepared.

Speaker 6 (31:44):
Let me, let me take your ship off. No, it
ain't that kind of shit.

Speaker 4 (31:47):
Now, we don't take it like like I wear my
jewelry now, you know what I'm saying. I still don't
care a pistol. But it ain't like that. It's like,
you know, you just don't hang with suckers. No more
like every pipple of the country you can. You can
Goldie right there, you got any pill. If it's nine
pence there and some nicks come around and they got
on a mask or something, every pip gonna leave. They
will say, Man, this like some jack boys.

Speaker 6 (32:09):
You know what I'm saying, because we know if we're leaving,
it's different.

Speaker 4 (32:12):
Lead taking your jewels now, I don't take No, you
got a misconception what I'm saying now.

Speaker 6 (32:17):
But that what you said, though, peop.

Speaker 4 (32:19):
But what I'm saying is that if I got on
a bunch of jewelry, and I know Goldie, all us
do it to this day, We're gonna take that jeury
gonna put it in because we're not fitting let on
just rob us of course, of course not Yeah, but
that's walking around with a gun. Of course he's not
gonna talk. But if you ain't got no gun and

(32:39):
your lifestyle require you to be gunless, you'll send me.
Then you got to use your finett. So that's what
I'm saying. You know, if I was going to a
grocery store and I got a million dollar for a jury,
I'm not for I'm gonna take the shop. I'm not
fornna walk in and let them niggas pop me. And
I'm pretty sure you. I mean, you carry a frost
so you cool. But you just said me, we didn't
do that, So that I'm said that was unusual for me.

(33:02):
I was used to wearing my jeurery and having the pistols,
and then it takes me for me.

Speaker 6 (33:06):
You knows me.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
So that's why I'm saying. It's the transition that.

Speaker 6 (33:10):
You have to do.

Speaker 4 (33:10):
How you have to move a little bit different than
you move if you got a pistol.

Speaker 6 (33:14):
But you see a bunch of boys coming, you turn
that jews rump.

Speaker 4 (33:18):
Yeah, bitches, It's like, yeah, I got the jury on man,
I pull it up. See I on the track, I
pull off. I got all my jewelry on and stuff
like that, and I'm getting at the bitch. I want
my motherfucker my sparkles to be sparkling at the whole
when I got my hand.

Speaker 6 (33:33):
The gangsters never came through the track though.

Speaker 4 (33:35):
Well you know I was because I was a former
a nigga that was was with the ship. A lot
of niggas didn't fuck with me to this day.

Speaker 5 (33:43):
What about the other pimpings, pimps. Dog I see a
lot of pimps get robbed.

Speaker 4 (33:47):
They get robbed, pistol whooped shot up. You know that ship.
You know niggas they tried me, but this was no
this was on no pimp shit. Theygga hit me three
times with I remember me. They asked me what they
get you? What that happened? What happened with Well, them
niggas understan me. They ask for my shit. I told
him fuck them. You know what I'm saying. You didn't
pimp for it? And them, nigga, where was you at?
I was in Milwaukee on my block. I jumped in

(34:08):
the car and when I get the car, they shoot
the car. About another hundred times. You know what I'm saying.
But you know them niggas that did it. You know,
they these niggas know me. See like on my block, Pee,
I'm like, you know what I'm saying, niggas. You know
I don't have no problems in the town. Like when
I'm sing, when I'm telling you you know, and then
you know, even in Chicago, my cousin, I can tell
the lesson Arry who was right hand man.

Speaker 6 (34:29):
Yeah, but they shot your motherfucking ass. Yeah, because them
niggas was trying to rob me.

Speaker 4 (34:33):
They was on that.

Speaker 5 (34:34):
Yeah, but they don't got no business doing that to
pimp and can man.

Speaker 4 (34:39):
That's my point exactly.

Speaker 6 (34:40):
Yeah, they don't got no business. That's my point exactly.

Speaker 4 (34:43):
That's why I didn't get them.

Speaker 5 (34:44):
I always think about that because their hometown hate hit different.

Speaker 4 (34:48):
Bro when they said prophet is never accepted in his
own home. You know what I'm saying. So my thing
was you know, and then you know I shouldn't have
been in that situation. It's it's more where were you at?

Speaker 6 (34:59):
Just Okay, so one of my partners, we was in
the club.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
You know what I'm saying. Mean, and uh, I think
this is what I think. You know, one of the
niggas bitches looked at me and the bitch you know,
I was pimpy kin, so you know, they was fanned out.
And then my partner, you know, I say, he said, say, man,
drop me off. He lived in the hood, So I
dropped him off in the hood. Mysteriously, these niggas showed up.

(35:25):
So I believe that he might have told them niggas
that he was going home, and the niggas beat us
to the spot. And you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (35:31):
Me the niggas, you know, they went to woo and
me being where I'm from and knowing.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
These niggas, you know what I'm saying, because I grow
up with these niggas, I know they're gonna kill me anyway.

Speaker 6 (35:38):
So I just wanted to say something slick. Did you
so you knew who it was?

Speaker 4 (35:43):
Well, I don't want to say that because I want
to put know shit like that, you know, because you
know some a lot of motherfuckers, you know they they
you know so it. But but the long and short,
the easy side to the sturdy was you ever said me?
You know what I mean? I refuse to give them
the jury. So when I woke up in the hospital.
All my jury was in the hospital. Niggas they ain't

(36:04):
get a doc. I told him fuck her. Then when
Mysterical came and talk, cause the niggas out of Milwaukee
had a bitch robbed. The nigga Mistcal he get robbed
for his jury, so he come in town, you know,
to pick up the jury cause I got his jury
back from niggas. You know, that's the type nigga I am.
You know what I'm saying, Nigga, you get robbed Miwaukee,
I get your ship back. So these niggas who did
this shit, like I said, you know on another podcast,

(36:26):
probably the niggas that I trained.

Speaker 6 (36:27):
These niggas, you know, they know, they know, they know,
they know.

Speaker 4 (36:31):
You know what I'm saying. These niggas, I mean, you know,
it's it's just so deep. I can't really get into it.
But the nigga missed the COO when he came. I'm
on the mic. I'm saying, fuck these bitch ass niggas.
Whole ass niggas. You understand me, you know, And I'm
trying to, you know, find out what's going on. Then
the world got about a certain nigga then one of
the nigga's brothers called me my partner. You know what
I'm saying, that I used to hustle with. He said, man,

(36:52):
the wool the woo. Man, my brother had nothing to
do with that, you know what I mean. Blah blah blah.
So niggas start, you know, making motherfucker peace treaties before
this shit even got started, because they knew, you know
what I'm saying, on the east.

Speaker 6 (37:03):
Side of me, didn't make no peace street after you
shoot me though.

Speaker 4 (37:05):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. But they they they didn't know.
They saying that they didn't do it, you know what
I mean. They that's what they were saying. I don't.
I don't know a lot of shit until later, you
know what I'm saying. I mean, but that ship became,
you know, relevant, and you know, like I said, you know,
this ship was was dealt with.

Speaker 6 (37:21):
But glad you're still here. That's the motion this.

Speaker 4 (37:23):
Shit was deal with.

Speaker 6 (37:24):
You know, how did how did you? How did you
come up out of that though? Did you pick them
strong or did it? Spooky eye? Did you?

Speaker 4 (37:31):
I told you? I went to to the Iceenbeller. I
went to the Icebealler concert right after I got the
hospital and I got on the micro I started cussing
the niggas out.

Speaker 6 (37:39):
So this was after you got shot, right after you
got shot.

Speaker 4 (37:42):
Let me give example. Let me give example of who
I am. Right in Milwaukee. So my niggas, you know,
they was hustling, they had a spot and uh, my
niggas call itself east Side geatess right. I'm not the
east Side gates for all my niggas. All my niggas
they geagss right.

Speaker 6 (37:58):
So, nigga you under saying me was talking shit to me.

Speaker 4 (38:01):
I made a phone call being's his I rocks. Uh,
this is a true stray nigga Milwaukee verified. They all
rolled up with like the motherfucker Army, Navy, air Force,
and marine about some peppy king.

Speaker 6 (38:15):
We run our city, we run our blocks, you.

Speaker 4 (38:17):
Know what I'm saying. So them niggas, you ever saying
me like I said, It's just it's too intricate, you
know what I'm saying. It's a lot of families involve.
I want to talk about it specifically. You know, the
ship might not turned out too good for motherfuckers, But
at the end of the day, you understand me. You
know I'm that nigga, Like you said, you that nigga,
I'm that nigga Milwaukee. All the gazers and killers fuck

(38:38):
with me in Chicago. My cousin is I tell you
that's Larry who was right hand man. Dang would g
gub those are my cousins. Them niggas ain't feel leting.
No niggas do nothing to me. You said what I'm saying,
So I ain't that nigga to fuck with. But if
a nigga on cocaine, if.

Speaker 6 (38:53):
Aga, you know, yeah, that's what it was basically with
some niggas that you know it got was was doing
too much and crashed out.

Speaker 4 (39:04):

Speaker 5 (39:04):
But I think it's interesting when you talk about the
pens being the target for the gangsters, like someone being.

Speaker 6 (39:11):
Robbed and uh, you know the jewelry took. Motherfucker's pushing up.

Speaker 4 (39:18):
Break it down for you.

Speaker 6 (39:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (39:19):
Please?

Speaker 4 (39:19):
Okay, So one game, pay another game? Right, you send
me an ounce of Potter. I go in the back
at the crib and I blow that shit. Right, you
just show me ounce of Potter, Right, the bitch come in,
give me one hundred thousand. I'm buying an ounce from you.
You said, I sell a potter. I don't fuck with
that grass. You go buy some weed from the weed man, right, okay.

(39:42):
The bitch that horn for me. She's peeling from my bankrope,
buying a little potter, getting a little weed.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
Right.

Speaker 4 (39:50):
The nigga yes at me. You know, he said, you
getting a little money. He kicks the motherfucking door in.
He look, take you and rob you, right okay, he
robb you. He gets you a little party, get your
little money. He goes to the strip club. Make it
rain to the bitch.

Speaker 6 (40:03):
Right, the bitch come back and give me the money.

Speaker 4 (40:05):
One game, pair another, you und said, mean, so when
you're in this game, nigga, understand this is what come
with it, you undersaid me. That's why I don't condone snitching.
So nigga, if you get caught, understand me or like me,
I never had a co defended.

Speaker 6 (40:18):

Speaker 4 (40:18):
I said every time I did say nigga can't can't
no nigga ever say Pepper can't snitch, because I always
was in the courtroom by myself. Know yeah, So you
know what I'm saying. That's just how it was with me.
So you understand, mean you know all my niggas Y
just said, we understand. I got niggas that's killers in
my crew. I got niggas that that fuck with part
in my crew. I got niggas understand me that might
bang a little bit in my crew. I got niggas

(40:40):
that piped like a motherfucker man Russian. You know what
I'm saying. I got hoes and and all that shit
in my community. So we all know that any moment,
any moment.

Speaker 6 (40:48):
Any motherfucker can get it, because one game pair another one.

Speaker 4 (40:51):
So the pimps ullerstaid me, if they out there and
they slipping the unsaid me like I was that night,
they said, I can get it. You know what I'm saying.
I could have been a motherfuckertistic of Milwaukee strateistic. I
could have been dead that night three times with the
odds of me living is what. It's almost analogous to
throwing the rock at the moon. You're send me so,
you know saying, then I had to be in my thirties.

(41:14):

Speaker 5 (41:15):
I just so you gotta man, you look good. Yeah yeah, yeah,
so you know now you look good. I ain't been
putting game down for a long line. N you a legend.

Speaker 4 (41:24):
But the interesting thing about all of this they shot
me right, but I still wear my jewelry. I still
ride through the hood and business. I'm like what I
pulled through. It's like, oh, man, is that one of
the Milwaukee Bucks. You know what?

Speaker 6 (41:39):
They think? I'm a ball player?

Speaker 4 (41:41):
Right? You know? Said mean so motherfuckers. You know I
still do that to this day. You know what I'm
said me. You know, I ride Rose Watson's buzziness to
the hood. Nobody robs me. The only nigga gonna ever
do something to me is a nigga on some drugs.

Speaker 6 (41:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (41:56):
Well, the niggas, the niggas that robbed me, robbed me
in DC. You know that's why I told you. Yeah,
this is when I was a kid. You know what
I'm saying me. They robbed me. One of the p's
that set me up. You know what I'm saying me,
But he was on hairn a old g now nigga, right,
he set me up. They robbed me and they with
some dope figs. No gangster, no killer, nigga ever do

(42:16):
nothing to me. Man, All the killers in the gamest
is cool with me.

Speaker 6 (42:19):
All over the world.

Speaker 4 (42:21):
I got niggas down there in motherfucking Mississippi. I could
stop my finger them niggas coming. You know what I'm saying,
I got niggas. I I'm the ceold hip hop. I'm
the f I got ten thousand members. Ain't number of
bloods and crips and gatesters and gend's in my organization.
You know what I'm saying, Me the hip I'm saying
the biggest organization in hip hop right now. All the
killers and gagsters respect me. And then you know, I
tell the truth. You know what I'm saying. Me like

(42:42):
I said, I tell my fucker. You know, when I
got shot, it was like a weird shit to be
I'm like, I'm mad, Pete.

Speaker 6 (42:49):

Speaker 4 (42:49):
I'm mad. I'm like, I ain't I'm not I'm not, dude.
I didn't cry, I didn't nomber that shit. I'm mad
because I'm like, you bitch ass niggas shot me. That's
what that's That's what my mind was, like, you I
want to kill everything that would nail down you know,
but you know, we know the streets. We can't talk
about certain ship, certain Ship ain't got no statue or
another that ship. So I just keep that ship under

(43:09):
you know, I mentioned it briefly, but at the end
of the day, man like I said, nobody, Goldie go
everywhere with me, my little nigga, gold We be traveling.
He'll take you. Ain't nothing but respect, but Charlamagnet. See
me when I was at yad event the Black Effect,
Charlamae said, we gotta have pepper can when they see me. Uh,
last week at the bet, he said, Nigga, I want

(43:31):
you on there with Dot Boosie. I need you in
there on on drink chains by yourself. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (43:36):
You reached out to niggas.

Speaker 4 (43:37):
Ain't number love and respect for me, So I ain't
that nigga nigga. Like I said, one game pay another.
The niggas came to rob me. That was their game.
I respect that.

Speaker 6 (43:50):
It's part of the game.

Speaker 4 (43:51):
It's part of the game.

Speaker 6 (43:52):
Yeah, it ain't nothing. It ain't nothing to write home about.
You know what I'm saying. If you're a real nigga,
just interesting, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (44:01):
If you're a real nigga, you're gonna get robbed at
some point. You're gonna get shot or shoot the motherfucker.

Speaker 6 (44:06):
Or you know, I ain't been robbed.

Speaker 4 (44:08):
I had some stole from me. Yeh, I ain't been shot.
See because you move, you moved with the unit, right.

Speaker 6 (44:14):
You know what I'm saying. You gotta remember once I
got in the pimpot. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (44:17):
I mean, you know, if a nigga, if I if
I walk down uh say, uh.

Speaker 6 (44:25):
Man, I ain't been in Nashville. So a lot came
hown the streets.

Speaker 4 (44:28):
But Jefferson Street, Jefinicity where Mirage used to be, that
Jeffer downtown. Yeah. So if I'm walking down there and
I got a bunch of jewelry, and it might.

Speaker 6 (44:38):
Be a hundred niggas from Nashville they say they didn't
get a pass. That's Pippy Cane.

Speaker 4 (44:43):
It's gonna be one nigga from Nebraska who's up here
hustling and like man, that nigga man much. Yeah, they
gonna come at me. So any nigga can get it.
You understand me. But the thing is, you said me,
do niggas walk up to me and slap me in
the law?

Speaker 6 (45:00):
They not? And no, it just it's fucked up because
the hometown.

Speaker 5 (45:05):
Hometown hate is always real, you know what I mean,
It's always a thing.

Speaker 4 (45:10):
You know. I said, he loved me though it was
just them a few bitch ass niggas. You know what
I'm saying me.

Speaker 6 (45:15):
Yeah, but I'm saying though, you gotta deal with the results. Uh,
you got hit in your city. To ignore that is
that that? That ain't cool?

Speaker 5 (45:24):
No, no, man, you gotta deposit that that happening and
acknowledge they love you. But for that to happen, that's traumatic. Nigga,
that's funked up. For them to do that toward nigga.
They they cross this world putting the game down like this.

Speaker 4 (45:37):
That's what I said. I said, Man, for them niggas
to shoot me, man, come on, you know what that
did for me, thought loon, To be honest with you,
It gave me a whole disperspective. And I used to
think everybody loved me. You know, I knew them those
phoeniggas that robbed me in DC, that was a setup.
I couldn't. That was them niggas. They you know, one
of my partners, uh, Saint Louis. We was in his fleetwood.

(46:00):
I said, Man, let me go get something to eat.
I went to the Chinese food right there on M Street.
And when I went to that motherfucker dude didn't know.
If you make a turn in DC and you make
the wrong turn, you gotta go damn there two miles
to come back and get to it. So and that
that time that he was trying to get back to me.
You understand me, I was a lunch with me. I
had all my pieces off, you understand mean, So I

(46:21):
just got caught slipped, you know what I mean. And
you know, anything you get.

Speaker 6 (46:24):
Caught now a real thing.

Speaker 4 (46:26):
Now I move different.

Speaker 5 (46:27):
I just I'm saying, though, I'm saying for you to
be who you are and then put that game down.
All around the world, it's just fucked up that that
happened there to somebody like, yeah, that's just it.

Speaker 6 (46:40):
And to me, that's fucked up. You know what I'm saying,
fucked up. That's fucked up. You know.

Speaker 5 (46:45):
But you said you got golded with you man, we're
gonna bring him in. Man, we got gold it done
joined us. Man, what's going on with you? Bro's going
on with we popping some game?

Speaker 2 (46:54):
Man?

Speaker 6 (46:55):
That's all.

Speaker 5 (46:56):
Tell the people about yourself. A little bit before we
get into back into the conversation.

Speaker 7 (47:00):
Man, you know, uh, game god, Goldie. You know it's
not self for playing, but you know the people named.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
Me that you know, I just went online. You know
it was just popping my shit.

Speaker 7 (47:08):
You know, just kicking some game and you know too
many people was in the comments, just you know, writing
game guys. So you just I just you know, adopted
it as my moniker. And you know, I'm just going
out here trying to wake dudes up, you know what
I'm saying, trying to flip the script.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
You know, I don't come from the game.

Speaker 7 (47:21):
I was never no pimp, but I came up around
a lot of players.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
So a lot of those principles. I lived my life
by it.

Speaker 7 (47:27):
And I'm trying to give that ship to dudes out
here who you know, just ain't living rights, you know,
trying to bring their power back.

Speaker 5 (47:33):
Facts' blucking bro blucking the shot. No him, it's blucking
this shot. But but that's that's good game.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
Man.

Speaker 6 (47:42):
What what you do before the before you got into
the pimp game?

Speaker 2 (47:46):
Na? Nah, I wasn't never an you.

Speaker 5 (47:48):
Wasn't in the pimp game? So how you get cold?
So the name gold is a pimp name.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
And you know my uncle Johnny Cash, shout out Johnny Cash.
He gave me that name. He blessed me with that name.

Speaker 7 (47:57):
Like I said, I wasn't no pimp, But I came
around lot of players, you know, I came up under.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
Them, and I saw the lifestyle.

Speaker 7 (48:02):
So I didn't camp per se, but I had a
lot of weemen. I called it politamy, whatever you want
to call it. I had a lot of women around me,
and you know, so I took the flavor of the
game and everything that they was doing and just integrated
into what I was doing.

Speaker 4 (48:13):
Facts.

Speaker 5 (48:14):
So so, so what what would you say? What would
you call what you're doing?

Speaker 4 (48:18):
Right?

Speaker 6 (48:18):
What would you call it?

Speaker 7 (48:20):
Man living like a king in his natural habitat, you know,
you know, the same way you know we lived in Africa,
the same way you know they do in the Eastern countries.
You know, just living like a man should live. When
you when you were a king, when you were a
man of means. You know, you have multiple women and
they accept the situation. You know, what we're doing around
here is unnatural, and that's why most situations don't work out.
That's why most dudes is miserable, you know, And I'm

(48:41):
just out here showing dudes. Man, you could do it
like that if you want to. You're gonna feel a
lot more comfortable when you do it like that. Not
to mention, when you step into your power and you
are you supposed to be the woman gonna accept it.
I've never really had a woman not.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
Accepted, right.

Speaker 6 (48:53):
Do you what you do? Before this though?

Speaker 7 (48:56):
Man, you know I was hustling, you know, trying to
do little businesses here and there. Entpreneurship, you know, and
you know, I was having a lot of lazy and
they had jobs, so you know, we were all just
trying to invest all money into different things, what.

Speaker 6 (49:08):
Kind of businesses like real estate.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
Real estate.

Speaker 7 (49:11):
Yeah, we tried some real estate. We tried a couple
of shops, you know, so it was everything did it work?
None of it really worked out, you know. It was
all you know, the real estate that worked out, you know,
And a lot of that gave me the transition to
get into what I'm doing now, because when we sold
a lot of the properties that we had, you know,
it was a big income. It appreciated a lot. But
I mean, for the most part, I was just really
figuring out entrepreneurship. But all of those lessons, you know,

(49:33):
helped me in uh what I'm doing right now.

Speaker 6 (49:35):
That's dope.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
That's dope.

Speaker 6 (49:36):
What's your thoughts on on the gangs?

Speaker 5 (49:38):
Just respecting the pimps since you not a pimp now, first,
before we even get to that, because I think you
kind of blended in with the pimp.

Speaker 7 (49:45):
Game, let me tell you this right here, right, It's
a lot of different players in the game. It's not
just a pimp. You got pimps, you got players, you
got Max, you got whole hustlers, and you just got hustlers.
So it's not just one individual in the lifestyle in
the umbrella of the game. It's a lot of different characters,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
So you can be in the game. Don't make you
a pimp, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (50:03):
That's facts. That's good game though.

Speaker 5 (50:05):
I just think the name gold is struck out so
hard for a nigga. Didn't want your relationships with dudes
like Ken, And it's just it's a good game though.
It's the game being applaid. Game is game, Yes, now,
it's game being applaid.

Speaker 7 (50:18):
I was I feel like a lot of dudes out there,
they just really understand that because they calling themselves pimps
and they not even pimps. You don't understand man. You
know you ain't got to be saying you a pimp.
You could say you are. And a lot of dudes,
these dudes, they don't give that's good game because they
saying they're a pimp. But you're not abiding by pimp rules.
Hey man, you could still be a player. You can
still have game, and you could call yourself something else
is still gonna get some respect.

Speaker 6 (50:39):
Now, let me ask you this.

Speaker 4 (50:41):
It's you.

Speaker 6 (50:42):
It's something on that pimp word spook spooky.

Speaker 5 (50:45):
To you know, if you call yourself pimp, you swooped
to that pimp word that that won't.

Speaker 7 (50:53):
Load.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
Listen. That's why I say listen.

Speaker 7 (50:56):
If you if you know what a pimp really is,
you got to give it respect for it is because
they living and dying by certain rules. It's real strict
dudes and do nots. And if you're not willing to
abide by those dudes and do nots, then you can't
call yourself a pen.

Speaker 6 (51:09):
So but you you might fall in love. It's love
on the table.

Speaker 7 (51:13):
Well for me, yeah, man, listen.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
You know, I'm a player.

Speaker 7 (51:17):
Whatever I want, Okay, rules on myself.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
You know, I'm a boss.

Speaker 6 (51:22):
You gotta keep it, you know.

Speaker 7 (51:23):
And I'm gonna say this like this right, and that's
no disrespecting nose pimps. But I feel like a pimp
put himself in a box with the dudes and do
notts and I can't do this and I can't do that.
Of course, you got to live by principles. But I'm
gonna come up with my own principles. You know, what
I feel like is more of what I feel like
is right. So I don't put myself in no box.

Speaker 6 (51:38):
Nah, that's dope.

Speaker 5 (51:40):
That's dope because for you to be able to stand
on that, because it would have been so easy for
you to just I can blend right in. Yeah, you
know what I'm saying. So I really respect that. But
I think, uh, what's your thoughts on that pimp?

Speaker 4 (51:54):
Well, you know, uh, they asked me about Sauce Walker
doing only fans.

Speaker 5 (51:59):
Yeah, I'm definitely I'm gonna ask you about the rapp
up pilm too. I think that's a good conversation.

Speaker 4 (52:03):
So I say, I think the Sauce Worker is one
of the best ever. Did he got away with it
to get a bitch to show her feet and make
three million dollars? You know, and the bitch ain't turn
to date. That's cod Now, Goldie, to me, he's one
of the best ever? Did it what he's doing? So
Goldie is a a a influencer, and he's a communicator,
and he speak really well, and a lot of young

(52:24):
people look up to him. And the man got mellis
and made of views on his uh page and young
Goldie on uh on u Instagram, underscore on Instagram. So
I think that the the the perspective that he's coming
from as young Goldie, the game God has spending good game,
they undersend me. It's just another twist on elevation and

(52:45):
evolving in the game.

Speaker 6 (52:46):
You know what I'm sending me.

Speaker 4 (52:47):
See back then, you know, we had typewriters. Now we
got dumb people with smartphones. You um send me. So
looking at it from that perspective, it gives us another perspective.
So I like the fact that Goldie, you know what
I'm saying, don't call itself up, but call itself a
game god, call itself a game spinner.

Speaker 6 (53:03):
He'll say that he got a bunch of women. But
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (53:06):
He don't call it that hole.

Speaker 6 (53:06):
He said, it's polligamy. You know, poligamy, you know what
I'm saying, or whatever you call it.

Speaker 4 (53:11):
You know what I'm saying. He called it.

Speaker 6 (53:12):
He doesn't even call it that. He just called it,
you know, being the king.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
Everybody living how I want to live in.

Speaker 6 (53:17):
I want to live and I appreciate him, you know.

Speaker 7 (53:19):
And I say this too, right, This is how I
used to always play it, you know, because a lot
of dudes, oh, he ain't no pimp, or he ain't this,
or he ain't that. Listen, I say, like this man,
call it what you want, but you can't call me
bro right.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
I thought this ship was about the money.

Speaker 6 (53:31):
Man.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
You want to talk about you camping? You doing this? Man?
You count here, it's not bread I'm counting bread man?
What you mad at? The next years?

Speaker 4 (53:37):
Go?

Speaker 6 (53:37):
You see his gold race? Broswoy. I know he's getting money,
ain't y'all?

Speaker 2 (53:42):
I know it.

Speaker 6 (53:43):
I know it's some money to go around. It's wonderful.

Speaker 7 (53:46):
All I'm saying is, man, I thought this was about
the money. I thought it was about elevation. So I'm
a man. Do that you feel me? Do it however
you want to, and don't be trying to knock the
next man just because he you know, however he doing
his twist. But that's why I say, man, you ain't
got to call yourself a pimp, and then you wouldn't
even have that them type of you know at you.

Speaker 5 (54:01):
Yeah, I think, but if you got the if you
got the bras, if they accepting it, if they bring
in the bank, bro. Really, the only thing that stop
you from being a p is that I might fall.

Speaker 4 (54:11):
In love with one of the heat bro.

Speaker 7 (54:13):
Not the only thing that stopped you from being a
pe is you telling her to go out there and
tell her aboy and bring you the money back.

Speaker 6 (54:19):
It's just a bottle, I thought. If it's for this being,
long as the money coming my way, the bitch could
be a CEO long as the money coming my way.
You pimping on?

Speaker 7 (54:27):
I mean, I mean, it's different schools of thought. You
got to ask everybody, and I think it's a good conversation.
It's a gentleman named Jimmy Starr rest in peace. You
know what he told me. He told me pimping is
the art of usulizing, utilizing the bitch to do your bidding,
whatever your bidding may be. Everybody may not come to that.
But some people say, no, you ain't no pimp unless
you sending a woman out the door.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
You know, get.

Speaker 4 (54:50):
Right?

Speaker 7 (54:50):
Okay you so, But it depends on who you asking,
because I like to know.

Speaker 4 (54:54):
What take on it.

Speaker 6 (54:56):
When I say p im p, that mean put it
in my pocket.

Speaker 4 (54:59):
And my book. Before they lost a guy say in
every situation, that's a pimp and a hope. You know
what I'm saying. The recordad was the pimp. The artist
is the hope. The thing that about the pimpot you
wanna make sure that you always the pimp and very
leslie or very unusually uh uh uh very seldomly the
oh so you understand me. That's all it is, you
know what I'm saying. Mean, it's being able to like
he said, get someone to do what you need them

(55:21):
to do. You know what I'm saying mean, Like you
know my I'll give you a g a CLA A classic.
I got two sons right, one named look Kenny, you
know what I'm saying me and he's the dude on
uh all American uh number fourteen. That's my son, and
uh played the flute. So he's in he you know
he's in Hollywood. But I got another son, ain't Supreme now?
When uh, I used to pick up Supreme when he
was little, they two years depart. The Kenny would cry

(55:44):
and he will whine for me to put his little
brother down to pick him up. So when I pick
him up. You know what I'm saying, I'm tryna watch
the game. I need to need to shut up.

Speaker 6 (55:52):
He'll stop crying. He just pimped me for my time.

Speaker 4 (55:55):

Speaker 6 (55:56):
I mean so pimper is basically getting what you want.

Speaker 4 (56:00):
You up send me. Now, a lot of women you
upset me when they mother uh uh, when they young,
they must say, get your good man with some money,
Get you a a good man that's a doctor, gets
you a lawyer.

Speaker 6 (56:11):
She teaching her daughter to pimp at that very young age.
She pipping her situation.

Speaker 4 (56:16):
And a lot of times the niggas always get it
confused about the pimpering. Hold. The bitches are the most notorious,
believe it or not, Brother Law. It's more bitches out
here selling pussy independent than it is bitches selling pussy
with a pimp.

Speaker 5 (56:28):
I I feel like the pimp culture in a lot
of ways lost his stronghold with the internet head absolutely,
we just they don't need they don't need the the
the third party.

Speaker 4 (56:39):
I fucked it up, you know, I mean yeah, I
fucked it up by doing pimpculf holes down in American Pepper.
I denounced both of them. And what I mean by
that is, uh, you know Snoop Dog started doing pimp
and shit. Uh makes fe fi fifty cent hair pimp
uh uh uh t I had pimpscar click uh loopis
pipping all over the world.

Speaker 6 (56:58):
Uh Nelli's pimp juice.

Speaker 4 (57:00):
And what they did was they sent a lot of
young black men to prison because they wanted to be
pimps and pimps. Upholes Down was like Scarface and New
Jack City and American Pimp was to the drug gang.
A lot of niggas went to jail trying to be Scarface.
A lot of dudes go to jail trying to be
me right, you know, and Bishop down on what what

(57:20):
what do you think about the Uh let me call
bruh see what they got. No, we ain't scheduled none
of them things. After dawn they Okay, they stay THATAML
oh that see s S D.

Speaker 6 (57:42):
You got something schedule that was going on. So some
people came home they.

Speaker 7 (57:46):
Said that you gotta wheel that story, that a sex
type story in here somewhere.

Speaker 6 (57:51):
Yeah, we just started about do I need to what
we need to do? M Oh, what's his name? I
canna said his name that they sitting there? Next up?

Speaker 4 (58:12):
What next?

Speaker 6 (58:14):
But yeah, so what do y'all think about? I wanted
to ask y'all this.

Speaker 4 (58:19):
First.

Speaker 5 (58:20):
I want to deal with what your thoughts is go there,
because I think we've identified with Ken that he has
some resentment there. You know what I'm saying, the game
to women?

Speaker 2 (58:34):
To women?

Speaker 5 (58:34):
Okay, what certain things happened when he was younger or
through his life that kind of caused him to view
them without.

Speaker 6 (58:41):
The without the love or or or or heart attached
to it. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (58:49):
Do you think that most pips like do they have
to Do you think that pimping has to have a
disdain for the woman or can you love women and
still get that down.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
With that game?

Speaker 7 (59:01):
Nah? I don't think that most pimp I can't say
most PEPs. No, I don't feel like you have to
have a disdain for women. I feel like that's kind
of like, you know, that could be some people motivation,
but a lot of people motivation, believe it or not,
it's the money, just like man, a lot of these dudes. Man,
keep it real, man. They wasn't even influenced by the game.
They don't know nothing about the game. They jump in
the game and try to pimp just for the money.

(59:22):
They just picked. It was two options. I can sell drugs,
I can pick on these holes. You know, these holes
just look easier. So they chose that. They had nothing
to do with, no disdain, no upbringing, no disdain against women.
They just doing what's easy, trying to get some fast
money what they think is fast.

Speaker 4 (59:35):
Right.

Speaker 6 (59:35):
It makes sense too, It makes sense. Do you what
y'all think about the.

Speaker 5 (59:41):
Celebrity rapp or that that they go with the pimp
game where he tries to embody the pimp, like I
respect it from Pimp C.

Speaker 4 (59:51):
Number one.

Speaker 6 (59:51):
Let's deal with Pimp C because we got some six
tape thing. We gotta speaker, right, But when.

Speaker 5 (59:57):
We deal with with pim c's his pimp respected or
did pimp and can validate pimpers?

Speaker 4 (01:00:04):
But they didn't respect him at first, you know. And
he used to always talk to me about that. So
I had this white bra that I had, I gave
it to her. She was in the game, and that
solidified his game, you know what I'm saying. She stayed
with him, you know, almost to the time he died
about I know, I know he married and his wife,
but you know, I just got to tell the truth,
you know what I'm saying now. On the sex tape,

(01:00:24):
I stumbled up and I was showing Pempsy my Pimpology tape,
which is the one that's on my podcast, pepper Can
Podcast on YouTube and it's on there for free. So
I was showing him that, and Pempsy showed me a
tape with an R and B chick and a dude
that was getting a lot of money at the tide.
So you know what I'm saying. Everybody asked me who

(01:00:44):
is the chick? I said, man, just use your imagination.
You had Mariah Carey, you had Mary J. Blist at
that time, yeah, Whitney Houston, he had beyond this, you know,
Kelly Rod. It was a lot of people back then
that was R and B.

Speaker 6 (01:00:57):

Speaker 4 (01:00:58):
But it was only one dude that it was kind
of rich back then. You know, you could figure out
who was getting money back then.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:01:04):
I can't say it because then I'd be saying the thing.
The only reason why I don't see it a little
because pim C didn said. You know, that's just like
you know, like you said, you wouldn't have six y
nine on your show, you know what I'm saying. Mean, well,
you wouldn't have me on that either if I was
snitching and said who on the take? And p C
then you know condone that.

Speaker 5 (01:01:22):
Well, I don't know because I got the bird the
nigga bird man brother what's his name, Terrence? Yeah, I
got Terrence.

Speaker 6 (01:01:30):
Against williams So and people say he read it. But
you know we're gonna get to that, you know what
I'm saying. I want to let him about that.

Speaker 5 (01:01:38):
Okay, So about the rappers, yeah, but the but the
but the rapper pimp game. The of course we see
the influence from pimping.

Speaker 6 (01:01:47):
And the game.

Speaker 5 (01:01:48):
Because now gold is here, I'm gonna refrain from using
so much of the pimp terminology and speak more so
towards the game. Right, So we see that the game
has in flues raped, but they respect the rappers that
play pimp Loom.

Speaker 4 (01:02:05):
That's that's my fault again. You know why, because they
told me pimper dies. I said, now, pemping multiply. So
they were trying to tell me that, you know, doing
movies and me and with me and Monroy was doing.
You know what I'm saying me that that ain't the game.
But you understand me. Since I did that, you know,
you got pimp Rollo, you got Pimp Silky, you got
sugar Free. I influenced a whole culture of young men

(01:02:28):
who are now very prosperous. And you know, bro, it's
like you know Goldie all the other brothers who are
doing something productive with their life. So you know what
I'm saying me. You know the people that said that,
you know them brothers from that era. You know what
I'm saying me, I think they was wrong, you know
what I'm saying me. So somebody had to change the game.
So I changed the game and I started being prospers.
Then they see me signing Boosy to a book deal,

(01:02:49):
They see me sign a nice team to a book deal,
Corey Wise, they see me on forty sixty million records.
I'm going to record with Pimps. I'm on fire rector
of PIMPC. One record with fifty cent, two records with
Little John, one with Jamaine Japri, you know, five records
with Pastor Troit. You know Ice Tea big Daddy came.

(01:03:11):
I changed their culture. Now the young guys coming up
under me, they said, Peppy Ken did it. I wrote
two books best sellers. You know what I'm saying. I mean,
I started the hip hop fraternity. I wanted rethers to
know that. Man, when they say Pippy, don't put a period,
but put a comma, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:03:25):
Or why is why is you holding the pempsea information
while we holding pimps information?

Speaker 6 (01:03:31):
Because man, you know it's people.

Speaker 4 (01:03:33):
The people that did it, they went on to have families,
they didn't got married and stuff like that, and you know,
they very influential in the community.

Speaker 6 (01:03:41):
And you know, I don't want to say their names.

Speaker 4 (01:03:43):
I mean, people just cant pretty much figure out who
I'm talking about. It's not hard to figure it out,
you know what I'm saying. Mean, you know, if you
use your imagination.

Speaker 6 (01:03:49):
You'll get who it is.

Speaker 4 (01:03:51):
But if I say the name and then I don't
have the tape, then they gonna say what they call
that shit blasphemy. You know what I'm saying. They gonna
get me for defamation of character. So you understand me.
I got to be careful not to say the name.
But you understand me.

Speaker 6 (01:04:04):
You know, I can, I can.

Speaker 4 (01:04:05):
I can assure you that if you had to take though, no, no,
if I had to take I would did they I
wouldn't give it a defamations. I would have put that
motherfucker out. But you know, it's a lot of rappers.

Speaker 6 (01:04:16):
I tell you who know it?

Speaker 4 (01:04:17):
Like man who who like seventeen pimpsy artists? You know
what I'm saying me, he know it. You know quite
a few people Bobo know it. It's a lot of
people that know who it is. You just got to
ask them. Maybe they might tell you.

Speaker 5 (01:04:31):
You know, but I do the rap do the pimp world?
Do the game respect the rappers that play pimp'ma.

Speaker 7 (01:04:38):
I'm gonna tell you from my perspective, they don't. They
just don't you feel me? Uh? And like I said,
the dudes that I know, they really talked down on
rappers who claimed the pimping. I mean, it's a few
of them. That's you know that they would considered real
ones that you know that they've been seen around. But
for the most part in all they don't. But at
the same time, niggas in the game don't respect other
pimps anyway, niggas always questioning for real, niggas in the game,

(01:05:00):
always questioning nigga right next to him pimpy.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
So they damn sure.

Speaker 7 (01:05:04):
You know, I don't know if I want to say
it like that, but man, pimps are some haters.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
Man, I'm gonna lie to tell you.

Speaker 4 (01:05:11):
No, no, I said that I saw some hater. No, no, no.
If you're gonna look at my everybody, I said, I said,
when you joined the pimp club, you joined the hate club,
I said. I said, because see, I'll tell you something
and this is gonna tie to what you're saying. When
when I was trying to get my feet wet, I
was a no pimpy motherfucker. When I got rich, I
was a drug dealer.

Speaker 6 (01:05:31):
Oh here I have.

Speaker 4 (01:05:32):
I had a pimp for every day. And now this
talking about, oh, he ain't up with a drug dealer.

Speaker 7 (01:05:36):
Yeah, you know, they always trying to invalidate Choe pimping
invalidate choe, you know whatever that's and that's just a
part of the culture, you know, and that's a part
of it that I don't like. It just seemed to
me like, you know a lot of pimpcils that you
just real caddy, like some broads you asked me. Sometimes
I say, I say, these niggas be around they.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
Brows too much.

Speaker 7 (01:05:50):
They start acting like the god about what the next
nigga got if he cheating on it? You know, easy boyfriend,
why is another nigga worried about how another nigga getting it?
If you really get why you're worried about how you
getting it, whether he cheating or not, that ain't got
nothing to do with your paper. But you know, no
in the streets, no niggas do not you know respect.

Speaker 4 (01:06:08):
If you want to know, the key to that door
a little is that when you were pimp, you're king.
So whatever you do, the ay know, all the motherfucker's business.
That's the rain that motherfucker hidden. Man's we got we
gotta make it back.

Speaker 6 (01:06:23):
It just stopped though. That's what they do. That should
be boords. Let's see.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:06:28):
But you know, man, I I p to pimpc man, Yeah, man,
what kind of what kind of Yeah, it ain't gonna
say thirty minutes of the start.

Speaker 6 (01:06:35):
What kind of dude was pim Ce Man? Well, PIMC
Man was a real dude.

Speaker 5 (01:06:39):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:06:39):
You know, he was very emotional. He said, what's on
his mind? I remember a funny thing.

Speaker 5 (01:06:44):
Man.

Speaker 6 (01:06:45):
Emotional ain't good to say, bro. I mean, you know
what I say from in the game is what what not?

Speaker 4 (01:06:51):
Not emotional? What they call that's impulsive. That's the proper
word post. So so I'm I'm in Uh, I think
I'm in Atlanta. One time Pemsey on the radio. Yeah, man,
y'all niggas would do what we call it, it's Atlanta
gay is the motherfucker. And I went some Atlanta niggas
while he's saying it at seventeen in the studio, he

(01:07:11):
and he around some Atlanta niggas and you know, he tripping,
I'm tripping, and I'm like, you know the app we're
doing all this ship And then the album was supposed
to come out, uh you know, uh, the UGK album.
But two weeks before the album, Pempcy self destruct. He
just went to talking shit and said, fuck Atlanta. So

(01:07:31):
I'm like, no, we can't do that. Yes, that means
so we had built all this commaradity and all this
unity with the you know, the Houston niggas and the
Atlanta niggas, and then Pemcy just just for no reason
did that.

Speaker 6 (01:07:43):
But then it was and graf at blood for them
kids don't grab Yeah. Yeah, but he he was strategic,

Speaker 4 (01:07:50):
So what he was doing, you know what I'm saying,
he was doing something that was going on inside him
that you know, a lot of people didn't know that
he was mad about. So what he was doing, he
was just reacting to some shit and he was pretty
much sabotaged in the project. You know, I know what
he was doing, but a lot of other people that
know what he was doing. But he had some issues
with some people within his camp. You know, that was

(01:08:11):
going on, you know, within the GIED records, the situation,
you know what I'm saying. So you know that's why
he was doing it, you know, but.

Speaker 6 (01:08:18):
He had some issues.

Speaker 4 (01:08:20):
Yeah, I mean, you know, like you know how the
record they we don't do what they're supposed to do that.

Speaker 5 (01:08:24):
Back then, yeah, yeah, you know, so you know, did
you make any money with this shit with PEPSI within
that this shit.

Speaker 4 (01:08:31):
Man.

Speaker 6 (01:08:32):
Man, I've been on sixty million records. I get publishing. Nigga,
we done saw TLC sale now but but but saying.

Speaker 5 (01:08:40):
Then publisher, did you make some paper with little Loonmarll publisher?

Speaker 6 (01:08:44):
I get paid every quarter? Okay, cool, cool, Well them.

Speaker 4 (01:08:47):
Nigga was asking me when everybody was laughing talking about
that nigga kin a groupie and he jumping on everybody album.
I was getting on them albums for a reason, because
I knew about publishing. Nigga.

Speaker 6 (01:08:55):
Puffy taught me about publishing.

Speaker 4 (01:08:56):
Puffy. I did a song with Little Puffy I called
Puffy PUFFECT called me and said, so, who's your publisher? Coman.
I ain't even have a part.

Speaker 6 (01:09:03):
I just said can.

Speaker 4 (01:09:03):
I said can? I published it, And from that day
on I got all my publishing. I found out that
publisher is good. Eighty nine years after you dead, I
also found out that here the lady that live here,
Dolly Parton, you know, I'm saying. She did a song
called I Would Always Love You. Whitney Houston redid the
song in the movie The Bodyguard. Guess who got all
the money? Dolly parton. You know what I say, I mean,

(01:09:24):
I learned that. You know, when you go in the
studio with somebody and you do a song, you gotta
have a split sheet. That split sheet gives you your
half and get the other person they have the record.
But if you don't do a split sheet, guess what
they do. They put the money in copyright control or
a black box. So I had my lawyers to do
it forensic account and they went and found all the money.

Speaker 6 (01:09:43):
You know I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:09:44):
So I had a lot of money coming, but I
had to pay a lot of money to the lawyer.
But then you know, I had to get all my
shit situation. And I realized too that you know, I
needed the file with the international publisher because an international
like in Tokyo and Philippines and Japan, they got what
you called techno music, so they'd be like other that
might be a little Johnt song, If that's the song

(01:10:06):
that I'm on, then you know they won't be publishing,

Speaker 6 (01:10:09):
So you got to be able to understand all those
do you think do you think that when you got
all in the rap game, the mother pes didn't like,
didn't like it shit like it's watered down. He watered down? No,
because I was the I left see see pippery and
quit me. I quit pimping. See you know, I left
on top.

Speaker 5 (01:10:27):
But how how the niggas that was really mash and
feel about You can hear Holland pimping.

Speaker 6 (01:10:33):
Oh oh you ain't really living you now? You don'e
turn rap fan?

Speaker 4 (01:10:37):
Okay? So so so how they felt about it?

Speaker 6 (01:10:39):
Initially they didn't like it, like he said, they didn't
like it.

Speaker 4 (01:10:42):
But guess what, I became really famous and guess what
their kids started saying, Hey, man, dad, do you know Pippy?
Oh yeah, I can call it right now, you know
what I'm saying. So the game flipped on them. So
I'm so famous now as Pippy Kid. That a lot
of niggas that don't like it. They like me, but
then they understand. Now, nigga, see that I'm pimping the game.
They niggas see, you know, I'm still looking good at sixty,

(01:11:04):
still riding slick, you know what I mean?

Speaker 6 (01:11:06):
Yeah? You know, and so you know, got big jewel's.

Speaker 4 (01:11:09):
You know what I'm saying, nigga, You know I just
don't wear but you know niggas know that now, So
niggass like, oh, okay, it worked for him.

Speaker 6 (01:11:16):
You know what I'm saying. But at first there was confused,
and then you know, a couple of pilps even joined me.

Speaker 4 (01:11:20):
They started doing movies, and they started doing whoa Darn
Wong's What's up with Help.

Speaker 6 (01:11:30):
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