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April 14, 2025 β€’ 57 mins

In this powerful episode of It’s Up There Podcast, Loon unpacks the full timeline and layered psychology behind Lil Durk’s federal indictment, King Von’s murder, and the toxic role 6ix9ine and DJ Akademiks played in tricking one of the most respected rappers in the game off the streets. 🎯 This episode explains: How 6ix9ine turned Slide for Von from a rally cry into a war cry Why DJ Akademiks’ blogging strategy fueled violence instead of just “documenting culture” The deeper implications of grief becoming groupthink in the age of social media How Chicago street politics, music industry exploitation, and internet trolls collided to create a deadly ecosystem Why Lil Durk should have redirected the narrative — and how it could’ve saved him from federal attention πŸ” Key Topics Covered: 6ix9ine trolling Lil Durk after King Von’s death Akademiks using Durk and Von's pain for streaming numbers The fake “Slide for Von” campaign and what it really meant Wack 100's credibility decline after sitting with 6ix9ine How bloggers turned street trauma into monetized content Why the internet is weaponizing grief and cultural loyalty How fake gangsta content has become a profitable business model Real strategy behind 6ix9ine’s media manipulation ⏱️ Timestamps: 0:00 – Welcome to the show + reflections on support & growth 3:35 – Why rappers today lack the discipline of Jay-Z & Diddy 6:10 – Time well spent vs time wasted: how streamers are affecting rappers 9:15 – Slide for Von wasn’t supposed to be a war cry 13:30 – 6ix9ine’s “Slide for Von” campaign: how it tricked the streets 17:45 – DJ Akademiks' role in boosting 6ix9ine's disrespect 22:00 – Durk’s mental state & pressure from Chicago’s expectations 27:30 – Why Dirk should’ve controlled the “Slide for Von” narrative 30:15 – Breakdown of Dirk’s viral IG Live after 6ix9ine trolled him 36:10 – Industry gatekeepers vs authentic voices: who’s really influencing culture? 41:05 – The myth of street loyalty in the digital era 44:50 – Why 6ix9ine & Ak were never held accountable for instigating violence 49:00 – Monetizing trauma: bloggers vs responsibility 52:45 – Slide for Von became an emotional trap for Durk 56:30 – Culture war: street vs blog — who controls the story? 1:00:00 – What Dirk should’ve done differently to shift the energy πŸ”Ž SEO Keywords to Rank For: Lil Durk arrested 2025, Slide for Von explained, 6ix9ine troll Lil Durk, DJ Akademiks controversy, Wack 100 loses credibility, King Von documentary, how 6ix9ine tricked the streets, fake gangsters in rap, 6ix9ine and Akademiks interview, Lil Durk vs 6ix9ine, Von revenge, Slide for Von meaning, metaverse affecting culture, grief in hip hop, music industry manipulation, Chicago drill legacy πŸ“Œ Related Searches People Might Use: “Why was Lil Durk arrested 2025” “Slide for Von real meaning” “6ix9ine academics interview” “DJ Akademiks exploiting rappers” “How bloggers profit off beef” “Fake street rappers exposed” “What did 6ix9ine say about Durk” “King Von vs 6ix9ine explained” πŸ’‘ Call to Action: This is bigger than gossip — this is about narrative control, grief exploitation, and protecting our culture from digital puppeteering. If you rock with the real, hit that LIKE, COMMENT, and SUBSCRIBE to support authentic voices. 🎧 Listen to the full version early on Patreon: https://patreon.com/ItsUpTherePodcast πŸ“² Join the Discord for exclusive conversations: https://discord.gg/3AwsHfDcJB πŸ”— Follow @ItsUpTherePodcast on all platforms ▢️ Watch more episodes: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnwwxLxHiDWYLCXvb81w69QAfr6cc1Y3N πŸ”– Tags #6ix9ine #LilDurk #DJAkademiks #SlideForVon #KingVon #Wack100 #

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to us up that podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
I am your active and attractive host, Big Loan for
another episode of the fastest growing podcast on the market.
Right now, I want to thank everybody for tuning in.
This is your favorite podcast podcast. I want to send
a shout out to everyone that's supporting us. I think
it's important to do so. I wouldn't be who I
am had I not got the support that I needed

(00:22):
on my way up. So I think that's very imperative
that we're on the same page as it pertains to that.
Right So right now, hit like, hit share, hit subscribe,
Let somebody know Loan is live. I really appreciate the
love that I get on a daily basis, on a
weekly basis. You know, I guess in this entertainment industry,
you know, it's so easy to just grab hold of

(00:44):
the low hanging fruit and just get ingratiated and everything
else that all of the content guys are doing. But
you know, I guess I got to be the change
that I want to see, right because when I look
in the wrap of course last week on streaming, if
you're a Patroon member, then you know we talk about
how that's really not any new age artists that give

(01:04):
us the feel of the jay Z, of the Kanye,
of the fifty, of the Diddy, and these other individuals
that were inside of music. It's almost like that they
are now ignoring the tunnel. They just getting lost in
the sauce, for lack of a better term. That conversation
kind of came off the heels of the streamer thing
and what's happening with streamers and rappers going on streams?

(01:26):
Right listen, we stream, So streaming is a thing. We
don't say that to try to shun streaming. We stream.
We're just saying your time can be better spent if
you're one of the more influential rappers in the game.
And I would say, model behind a jay Z, look
at the activities, look at the business moves. Right, I

(01:46):
would say model behind a QC or coach k a
master p of fucking some of these dudes that's been
uber successful, Like, actually get some business done. But if
you want to just turn your work time to your
leisure time, which black people do that a lot. You know,
they at work bullshit, and they at work on their phone,
they at work on Facebook, they at work checking emails.
That's the same shit you rapp it doing. They just

(02:08):
got a bigger platform and a lot more money at steak.
And so what you gotta understand is the higher you
go up, the smaller the room for error. Most people
are thinking that when you get a lot of money,
you can chill.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Oh, I finally chill.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
When you get a lot of money, that's when you
really got a being men, because now everything is at
stake that you work for.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Prior to having something.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
At stake, your hustle by it self can keep you going,
like just the mere fact that you have a vision
and it's light at the end of the tunnel. Once
you actually step in the boxing ring and the bell rings,
you're in a fight now and everything counts and it's
no free lunch. And so I'm saying, let's do our
best at being efficient and optimize our careers in a

(02:53):
way that we can get on the billionaire rod that
jay Z and these.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
Other people don't.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
If it sounds like hey to you, I'm gonna keep
putting game. I ain't waiting on you.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
If that sound like hating to you, I'm gonna keep
putting game down. I ain't waiting on you.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
You know, before we even get into the Takashi six nine,
because that's basically the first topic we're going to talk
about today is Takashi six nine and academics, kind of
basically saying and confirming what I've already been telling all
of y'all that listen to me, that Hey, Takashi and
academics fueled the audience that trick Dirk off the streets.
I just couldn't understand why Dirt still was involved with academics,

(03:30):
but we'll.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Get to that later.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Right right now, I want to talk about when you
get into business, right you quickly realize that a lot
of people are fake Guru. Before we get into that,
let me just say this for those out there that's
praying on my downfall, those that's watching and not supporting,
those that may just be curious as to where I'm going,

(03:51):
let me assure you a one or two things. I'm
equipped with enough information to stay afloat. That's number one.
I'm watching you watch me. A lot of individuals would
like to kind of steal the CEO title, But if
I'm being honest, I truly think that a person faking
like that doing the work, don't want to sit next
to a person that's truly doing the work.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
You cannot fake the work.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
You can't fake the CEO title, you can't fake getting
on in this game. Like, there's certain things in life
that you just cannot masquerade around, and a CEO is
one of those. An entrepreneur, right, I'm stuck somewhere in
between loan. It's rough out there, but it's a lot
of money out there. I'm somewhere in between the two.

(04:36):
I guess the question becomes who want to put the
work in. So the first thing we're going to talk
about is Takashi six' nine sitting with academics speaking About,
dirt and just for some context, SETTING i want you
guys to know that you Know i've been on this gravy.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Train i've been pushing and punching this.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Line for a long, time, Saying, yo the metal verses
affecting the, universe meaning The, internet it's affecting. Reality i'm
gonna get into some some of the Mistakes dirk, made
But i'm also getting to some of the contributions that
was made for people outside Of dirt and outside Of
takashi six.' nine i'm gonna get into how the narrative
took place in what. Exactly, happened listen young boys, OUT

(05:13):
there i pray you find another way.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
TO go i pray that you Know that god sit
high and. Look low.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
YOU know i try not to close the door, on, that,
BROTHERS though i try not to close the door on
the dirks and the little nit coming out, the GHETTO because,
i KNOW like, i, KNOW bro i know the feeling.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Like it's just so hard, to EXPLAIN and i.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Want people, to Know like i'm not a criminal apologist,
at ALL but i understand the maids that is the,
inner city the things that it contributes into, your toolbox
and how it can be triggered by things that is
not even any. Your nature it's almost like a dog
barking at. The moon you See what. I'm saying you
know how far the mooner is from. A dog, but

(05:53):
right you ain't got no. Bit man you can spend.
YOUR time i guess today's theme would be time. Well,
spent man spend your time in a better way. Than that,
but boys, this layer this Thing with Takashi six 's
nine is layer like free. Little dirt let's, start there.
Free dirt let's. Start there let's, start there. Free dirt

(06:18):
what do you mean when.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
You say it's.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Layer, long well it's a lot of moving parts. In
this but for the sake of the, conversation today we
may not have. ENOUGH time i may do two parts,
of this it still ain't. ENOUGH time i will really
need a docu style scenario to really draw out some
of my thought process and really put it into context
in the WAY that i.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Need to i'm.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Just freestyling we don't have. Any notes y'all appreciate the.
Solo episodes we're starting to drop them twice a week
with dropping them on, Now listen i'm here, for y'all
so let's get into. It now the first thing we're
gonna look.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
At today it's how we.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Got here for people who do, Not Know little dirt
has been arrested by the federal government or Murder for.
High plot this Murder for high plot is on the
heels of fellow Rapper, From Chicago, king vaughn being Killed.
In atlanta he jumped out of a car and he approached.
Another rapper shots rain gal police. Were Involved king vaughn ended.

(07:15):
Up dead the gentleman ended up beating. THE case i
haven't really read into the paperwork to see even why
that's the, CASE today I think i want to zoom
out from the actual incident and talk about the. Surrounding
Neighborhoods so i'm gonna zoom out and let me get
this out of.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
The WAY because i don't.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Hate, ACADEMICS right a lot of people will see my
position in the metaverse in his culture and THINK that
i have some hate. FOR academics i literally counted the meeting.
Cads yesterday is no cap, on that no cap ON
that i don't. Hate academics i'm doing well. FOR myself
i have an obligation though to. THE coach i have
an obligation to the route took. It right it ain't personal.

(07:55):
With academics it ain't personal with none of. THESE guys
i don't know. These Guys as i'm, telling y'all time,
WELL spent, i think BECAUSE when i put these things
out in THE reaction i get from some of the
big dogs in the game and from, my fans it
tells me to continue to.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Do It but i'm gonna be honest.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
WITH y'all i can find a better way to spend
my time if these things don't react in the way
that we need them. To React so i'm satisfied with
what we do and how we. DO it a lot
of these individuals can't do this kind, of PODCAST and
i try to bring it to the market for. My,
People right takashi six' NINE Sat. With dj Academics Now

(08:33):
that little dirk, has been arrested, he's in jail just.
Dropped the album nobody's, pushing the album nobody's giving them any,
kind of. Promotion any marketing and this is the same
guy that will try to. Run around, IT oh Man
i put academics right in the, middle of him, Thising,
Little baby nah academics, is my, guy man like, we're
still cool while same time He pushing to. KASHI six'

(08:54):
nine i don't know what kind of, game these niggas
playing but, when you, a boss you know ain't no
such thing.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
As a fifty nigga ain't.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
No fifty yard, line it's end, zone the end, zone
pick your squad and so they was allowing squabs. To play,
the fifty for me that was a very uncomfortable THING
to watch because i knew it would. Lead to the
disaster academics, isn't able to analyze therefore he's not accountable
for anything. That these dudes do his attributes ain't even

(09:22):
in the same. Category as these gentlemen but we're. Gonna
get to that i'm already. Giving y'all too much let's
get To the Video to cashi six 's nine sent
next to academics and confirmed and celebrated the idea that
he was responsible for tricking. Dirt off the streets pay
attention to this.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Video through a joke you dirt Rapping about like now i'm.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
Gonna, Tell you're indicted no, i'm gonna tell you so
you gotta do, Face sheld hold on. I'm gonna tell
you i'm gona, tell you right, now right this nigga
this nigg really LIKE the reason like i, Think this,
ship is joe said because the really tricked.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
Himself off, the, streets who yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Man you were trying.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
To Trick Him off you actually i'm.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
The, who TRICKED him Over because I mean I'm the, i'm, the, no,
no listen no no but listen who started?

Speaker 1 (10:15):
The slap of ships?

Speaker 2 (10:16):
Who?

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Ship was that, yeah but be honest who's in the first?

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Set slap of von but why would you? Take? Credit
for THAT though why would i?

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Take credit for it because you remember the nick the, Nick. Hold,
On up vaughan no, I'm not. Taking credit VAUGHAN said,
And if i die i'm. Boosting the murder rate he
died and ain't nobody died, for like five years LIKE you?
KNOW what.

Speaker 4 (10:36):
I mean i was it is clear he was gonna,
get On.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
The flower.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
Says yo then he died, in what twenty one twenty one.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Or, twenty years some way.

Speaker 5 (10:49):
Huh, twenty twenty twenty yeah he.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
Died in Twenty twenty little pad ben, down till twenty,
four many twenty two but still like Little, pap guns
twenty no it, was no.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
TWENTY two, TWENTY two.

Speaker 6 (11:06):
I was i was i will, be, honest WITH you
like but i, was saying too MUCH and, this, was
i said like this is why it's not. Me saying
too much nobody gonna, indut, you, like, no, no no,
no no no because. Use YOUR credit card n i
try to make, It, hard for them yo you don't
really shootings happened along, the way before, that, like you
saying oh nobody.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
WAS something like this i.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
Put it like this, you, can't say that bro because if, say,
you get killed, right you get killed you my man's.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
Give me any any anybody Anybody.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
That, Who cares drake right drake say you my? Man's
this our, GAME drake Died right i, mean, drake killed you.
RIGHT you my mans i. Gotta slop for you you can't.
SAY yos getting shot i could Go shoot the fu delli. Man,
the gas station nigga that's not you.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
Gotta, shoot that matter now this Is how no real
i'm just saying, real ship like yo, triggering.

Speaker 4 (12:09):
Off the street trigging this. Is how you're, triggering.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
First of.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
All you can't Look remember he said. I'm not gonna
lee remember what he said on.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
Something on those.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Lyrics he said, that he said stop he said stop.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Saying slap of ball like y'all want me. To go
to jail remember, when he, said that.

Speaker 5 (12:25):
He said you don't want.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
TO talk about, it. I want yo.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
Yo this is how this is how.

Speaker 6 (12:35):
To make.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Sure the.

Speaker 4 (12:37):
Audio, perfect, he's.

Speaker 5 (12:40):
Nervous No no because. I'm gonna, Get you he's, NO
i'm not nervous. Im gonna get you.

Speaker 6 (12:44):
I'm.

Speaker 4 (12:44):
Gonna get you.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
Nigga you definitely you can't use.

Speaker 5 (12:48):
Lyrics to hold accountable because, you did say yo if
the fans pull up by, and doing no talking you.
Definitely did say that so you can't you can't use
you can't say they gotta slide BECAUSE they, said if
i die le's got. A boost murder rate but when
you had, to rap some shit you. Went back on
it n so got.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
That, Thinking about it no.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
So what we just Watched right there was takashi and
academics having a conversation About tricking a little dirk.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Off the street with the.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Slide for vughn thing let me let me get, a
few things Clear, not only for takashi, for the own
lookers for the people who maybe don't understand the gravity
attached To Losing. Someone like king. Vaughan for little dirt
tikashi did pour. Gasoline on a fire but this Was.
Much bigger than takashi this Was. The way of chicago,

(13:44):
this was all them, all them different hoods all that The,
whole city of chicago saying you know, where we come from,
like you know what you know? How we come up
like this. Is a football town it's Almost. Like, being,
in alabama say bro you know. This a football town
we expect you to. On A, foot ball so chicago
he comes from. A slide in town. That's what they

(14:04):
do they keep scold. They on some bullshit They lost in, the,
south up there right it's war after war after war
and a couple of in money and acting. Like they
pushing peace so we got that kind Of, scenario up
in chicago and that's. In Twenty twenty five but dirk
was birthed in a game where your reputation mattered almost.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
More than your.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
Success and that's hard for a regular person to rep
they mind around because your reputation in, some of these
scenarios in some of these pockets of america's MUCH more
important than i can probably put. In WORDS here today
but i do want to be clear with the People
that's watching that takashi six' nine academics, hip hop play

(14:48):
the Role.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
But this is from, Chicago this was a.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Mindset this was, a mentality this, was militant not. In execution,
but in mindset you know they kitching, hats. They looking
on this right it's a badger honor when you when
you get involved in a scenario up there where you
honor Whatever bullshit, gained you in like again. They lost
in the, loop it's a feedback. Loop it's an echo

(15:12):
chamber you celebrated for riding. For this shit over Here
you would even hear DIRK mentioned several Times like, i
don't give Nick. MONEY do it for vaughn. I ain't
sending No. Chicken do it for vaughn you. Know what
he stood for you. Know WHERE we come from so
i understand, being trapped in the closet. Being, trapped in
a room mentally some people think success zeros out everything you've,

(15:35):
been through in your life and it. Just doesn't work
Like that and so with takashi six' nine and academics
and the environment that They created online on top of
chicago's expectation as to what they do for people who roll,
for them and lord to them and what he came up.
In that mix was a disaster it would Have. Been
hard enough shut out chicago It'd have been hard enough

(15:58):
for dirt just to shut out shit all go expectation Of.
Him to kill everybody about vaughn. It's hard enough to
do That then you got this rap nick come along that's.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Pouring more and more.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
On it dirk should ignore it dirk made a lot
of mistakes as it pertains to just his involvement. And
the way You HANDLE, it the same with big u
the same. With a Lot of these gentlemen because. The
internet is a new place this is a very. New
medium that we meet, on the consumption rates to hire
the OUTPUT. Is, Higher the engagements to hio. Right it's

(16:31):
just a lot happening it's a. Lot of information to
take in and if you've never really been a boss
that's been involved in certain, scenarios, where, you, got a
plan plot execute man you may. Need TO stay away
from it but i don't want it To Be lost
on us that dirk baard the Birden. From the entire
city Of chicago it's fun up because dirk got a

(16:52):
reputation partly that he didn't ask for and. PARTLY that
he did ask for i keep telling y'all being.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Around don't make you no killer that. WHY listen Bro
with rap nick i.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
THINK i'm putting it together right a, lot of these
gentlemen are young and they kind of done away with,
the big home along, the way not even the rappers
just the culture because the big homan was. TAKING advantage
of the little nigga i even WAS in a, Scenario where, when,
I look back I'M like yo i think because i
was a little dude that was, hustling and moving a,
little shit some of them older, and. It took ADVANTAGE

(17:25):
of me bro and when, i SAY took advantage of
me what i mean, is they, mastered it as. Family
as lords as we together but they just need. To
HELP getting their pack off and i had. Clientele for, me,
as a youngster i'm thinking oh he come, to get me,
THE pack man he with me i.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
Ain't, even give him no money well, it, really didn't.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Work like that, right when you drill it down you
see a scenario where someone is, having, trouble hiding all
this shit right and it takes you to get, in,
that scenario where you. Say oh that's what was happening if,
you get a hundred. Of these you gotta hide them
you don't definitely don't want to. Hide them all in
one spot so if you, got a couple of good right,
so as you as you elevate you. Obtain information that

(18:08):
keeps you afloat?

Speaker 1 (18:10):
And so?

Speaker 2 (18:10):
What MASK these Things his family and i think dirk
was in the scenario Man. With an entire city of
chicago he buried The. Burden, of getting back for vaughn
right That's just me giving YOU guys dirk's mindset or
what I think what's going on in dirk's mind and
maybe pushed Him To view the death of king vaughan
in a.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
Way that he.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Wasn't able, To let it go and Again i'm still
not saying. That dirk is guilty of anything i'm just
speaking on the environment that was created online that will
even make prosecutors and other people think what happened To Little,
pob out on the west coast which is A Guy,
who was close to little tim which is a guy
who pulled the Trigger Allegedly.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
That they said kill king vond but let's let's rewind
something And think.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
About the Slide for Von. Again, remember this dirk. Is
baron see here's the thing when. You come into the.
Rap game everybody got a. Jerusale dirk has A jersey on,
he has a chicago, jersey on which has, a, history,
which has. Expectations right tradition expectation history right. And so
this is what happens and he finds himself in the feedback, loop, where,

(19:16):
ain't nobody saying no.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
No, No we ain't doing that.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Dirt we ain't thinking like that we ain't finna let
this little nick and, talk to Us about that man this.
Little finna trick us peep game now you're gonna let
the little nick trick. Us ain't nowhere in The world
we're gonna let. Ta kashi sixty nine trick us and
so when you think about The slide of, von campaign
from takashi Sixty. Nine he's just started trolling Dirt? Why
did he start trolling dirk people?

Speaker 1 (19:39):
Ask what even.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Made that Happen, Takashi, six' nine started trolling dirt meek
all these different niggas. Because they acknowledged HIM as a
rat this is what i? Don't like about you? New
age ratting is you new age, they, go cooperate one,
and they say yo bro told man y'all. Be ready
to blow the, Building, up, you fighting the wrong case.
Yeah naw you fighting the wrong colligations you should have

(20:02):
fought Like.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
It's, when you think what i'm saying?

Speaker 2 (20:04):
But, you calling it a rat nowadays man he gonna
use whatever power he got. Left TO try. To take
you down insert dj academics that was One of the last,
power moves that takashi six' nine had as he had
built his whole reputation off, game, banging, and go, TELL
and then say yo, dude, told man.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
I told y'all that.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
One right And he really, Didn't like that, Twenty one savage.
Was one dirk was one meek was one All of
these dudes got into it with takashi because he had
an adverse, reaction to be labeled eroded when he went
he got on the stand for the very nick. That
he wanted to go kill for him now how you
get mad? At an for calling. The spade the spade
put everything in. Perspective you gotta remember we're. In twenty

(20:47):
eighteen tiakashi gets out of jail what happens all of
all of the in the rap game. That kind of, Stand,
for the street, coaching they start saying yo he read.
It and we knew he was gonna rat don't nobody.
Pop it like that.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
And keep it solid he.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
He's insulating itself he ain't involved in nothing he just
got a bunch of sinis, and them balls was moving,
for them boys was. Really moving for dude And he went,
it told on them folk dirk? Telling man Ain't nobody
fuck The rat. Man this before Dirk had the drake
song so Him and TAKASHI start going At it because.
Takashi think i just told i'm super. BIG these people

(21:21):
are still interested. In me i got a lot of
engagement so he Used, his engagement to Start, a beef
with dirk who comes from chicago who. Supposed to come
from his slide in town this. Is the time where
they're smoking on opposition And? So what do they tell
me about chicago, chicago is field of a bunch, of
hurt emotional. Black boys that's easily triggered easily rage.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Baited this shit.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
So far down the line don't. Even know who they
killing for no more. We just don't like them. Boys
over there that's just how. It go and so they.
Birthed into destruction they berthed into, the darkness and the,
Young nig know that if you ask me academic wouldn't.
Be handling rappers the Way he Handle Them, if it
Won for takashi and charleston white they gave academics his

(22:05):
last bit of confidence to start telling rap nigg fucking
and tearing their business down just SEEING him operate in
the market right like i didn't have, a PROBLEM getting
on the high diving board but i. JUST need to
see you do it first i don't want to be the.
FIRST knigs jump off the high diving board i ain't.
Got that MUCH confidence in the diving board but once,
i see him, jump off the diving board him. Jump

(22:26):
off man ain't no different than me let, me, Get
Up here And jump this day right so, I'm believing
academics was because think about. This, ACADEMICS used to hold
rappers in away Well i ain't Talking to them street
nig hell.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
No to takashi start. Drilling in his.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
Head Rappers ain't like that they be lying charleston, white
really made it, made, sense, For Academics so he really
went hey why but takashi was. The first one to
even Spark The idea remember academics went, back when meek
Mill was upset with him.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
He came on clubhouse trying to explain.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Itself he wasn't on no rod rod shit now he,
HURT That same conversation in twenty Twenty Five dj ACADEMICS
Have tried to handle meek. Meal like, dj academics is
the street dude But rewinding Go Listen to some Of.
That academics, and meek meal exchange on clubhouse back then
he used to have a certain reverence for rappers because
he knew that entourage if nothing. Else or try to

(23:19):
catch up with him this is why. He Stayed in
the house. For so long but. Takashi broke that mold
charleston broke that mold. Like rappers ain't really they, ain't,
really what they ain't gonna. DO nothing Man They ain't
gonna do nothing i saw meek that's. HOW he was drilling.
In and akhead man I saw that dude that dude,
Didn't do now he spent years doing that And, so
he Installed a new software on academics and so academics

(23:43):
of today Is running a Different version of The mac
oes on, his, You dig what i'm saying on.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
Hisself right so he's running a different.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
Game he had a certain reverence for, rappers takashi Shot
At that now twenty eighteen this Is Meek. Meal coming
off of being with nicki minaj takashi's career would have
took a different turn had he not been able to
utilize certain things because. Of, other people being emotionally, involved,
AND triggered right If you ask Me so i only

(24:13):
believe takashi got That Nikki feature because of the beef
With Meek meal and because of. Her and meek meal
not Being Together anymore and maybe someone from, the BLOOD
card really called in a favor but i really think
my Gut Is telling me it was More about meek
meal not being involved with nikki And him Having a

(24:34):
problem with me and meek and nikki going back and
forth on. Line like that, had kind of got messy
so you know damn near everybody in This bullshit coach running.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
The bullshit for their laws, of power.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
Game Here's how you get rich YOU guys and i'll
give this. Idea where i got a lot of Ideas
Someone just Make the counter to the. Fourier laws of,
Power And, you'll get rich. Matter of fact brian holliday there's,
an idea, before you get, out of, here you know
before you return you're Writing write A, counter to the
forty eight laws of power how to combat Someone that's

(25:05):
Trying to utilize, the forty eight laws of power on
you and. It's best seller for the next twenty years
and cut me. In on that because that's a keen
idea but everybody in this Culture try to run. This
bullshit for they laws of power game so it's. An
enemy Of my enemy is my, friend so while nicki
comes from street colchure she doesn't celebrate someone that rats

(25:26):
and kind of, it's supposed to stand on the same
morals her action said something, DIFFERENT because she was emotionally
involved and also i mean it was a, record that was,
gonna go her fan. Base his fan base. Him just
coming out, it was a moment and in music nowadays
they have, straight away from the way the music sounds
and you have to create a moment and attach, it

(25:46):
to the music as well. As, merchandise or you're gonna end.
Up miserable yeah you're Gonna end up miserable this Is
even How Takashi gets Into. It With dirk and king
von and Alim when, Nicki jumps on The song, with,
TOKY shit vaughn Goes at.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Nikki like.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Damn i really like nikki man you know, he, shot
a few tweets?

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Of the like yo.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Why y'all doing that y'all aiding an, assistant he always
had academics, In his pocket, But no rapper. With Him
kodak with him nikki with him but nikki jumped out
of there. As soon as he got out of jail
this was When He. Was doing all that slide for Vaughn,
shit he was trying to, Raige bait dirt and if
you asked, me, dirt was aware enough to. UNDERSTAND that

(26:27):
oh he, TRYING to trick. ME i ain't going though i.
AIN'T going I ain't finna go for. That i ain't
i ain't. Going for that but he bit the bait,
It was UNFORTUNATE because. If you Asked me dirt saw
i coming he saw takasha being in a scenario where seemed,
like you trying.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
To rage bait me. Man and it was.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
So Fresh of happening it was so fresh if takasha
would have just not been, getting out of jail. And
trying that Shit It wouldn't have worked, the death Of
king vaughan had, just Occurred and then dirk lost her brother.
AND takashi was going AT both, Of them i always
remember what i said dirk. Wears this that he didn't
even ask for He, Didn't. Ask to have to wear to.

(27:07):
Chicago jersey that's just Where he. Was birthed at you
dig what i'm saying the same way they argue racism
and other tactics and religion is, handed to the grandson
and the grand daughter. And, it's passed down generation at
the generation unfortunately the mindset that ain't, nobody gonna Play
with this.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Get passed Down.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Knowing that takashi triggered that, now here's dirt dirk is
in a, scenario if you Ask me around this time
where he's understanding takashi is trying to trick me out
of My position after he does the slide for. Vaughn
And he trolls him on academics page. Now academics Has
posted all of this bullshit takashi and dirt at.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
This time.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Have albums about to come out pay attention now. They
both have albums. About to come out they get into
it dirk. Then goes live and speaks. To the fans
look at what he says pay, attention.

Speaker 4 (27:57):
Makes this shit? Real quick and simple right easy.

Speaker 7 (28:01):
FOR one you know all the going, on i Don't
say we gonna stand together, but, look i'm the first
Best SAYING this right you can't compete with. And i
keep telling y'all that this ship start responding to that.
Clown as, nigga start respond to THAT clown ass nigga
this is another Thing i just Want. To, address on

(28:22):
the voice of.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
THE streets right let me say this too, i, think
it was important he said that right stop responding to,
this nigga because y'all gonna pull me In and that's, the,
problem to your. Home its gotta. Know boy that's a
trick that's a. Trick we don't never frown any. A
peon that's a trick any? A peon look how this
gang done him. He, talking about what we, need to
do man if folks kidnaped, you THE girl kicked you.

(28:46):
OUT in there say I. Done got rich i am
sliding for vaughn but once your home boys get involved
and they respond to him on a tweet or he raised,
bait one of the home boys over. Here, he raised
bait people bringing it up. Man, You, saw, with their
sucker a nigga boy now.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Oh they got me. In the feedback loop he saw
this coming.

Speaker 6 (29:06):
He.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
Saw that.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
They was trying to, listen, y'all my people stop, responding
to him y'all because. IF y'all respond it's. GONNA make
me engaged i can ignore him. I know he running
up a. FLEET flicker i know what's a. PLAY action
i ain't biting on. The run i know it's a play,
action but if y'all bite on the run y'all gonna
make me believe you're right you ever seen one person

(29:28):
on the defense and make the whole defense, pull land
once at first make.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
The mistake and he. Think it's a run when.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
It's a past the whole, defense get confused because, we
move in unison we Move.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
With energy. And WE got, on, THE jersey pay attention.

Speaker 7 (29:42):
WHATEVER i say right i, CAN say this i, CAN
say that snap, I got the streets.

Speaker 4 (29:47):
I got the youth i got the trenches i.

Speaker 7 (29:49):
Always wanted to be like a superstar nigga but knowing what's,
going on right, here with all this shit like the.

Speaker 4 (29:54):
Industry that shit figuas hell.

Speaker 7 (29:58):
Being around these fake ass you can't talk, around these
fake ass niggas, almost, Nigga bundles so all this shit,
fake Right, but let me tell you this that jazz.
THEY will call me somebody from. His camp i ain't
gonna say the label somebody. From his camp calls somebody
from my camp somebody would give me three. MILLION dollars

(30:18):
to keep trolling with this nigga i hope you' all.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
On.

Speaker 7 (30:21):
HERE looking and listening that shit did man i never turned.
My Back on, thee ever on the voice what i'm saying.
That MONEY ship ain't gonna change him off so i ain't. Gonna,
Never respond to this, nigg ever again right. Say what
you want do what you, want you can't Control me.
On the Streets you, know what. I'm saying me and
drake shit real fans don't Play a little boy. In, The,

(30:43):
club where i'm in a bit ah.

Speaker 4 (30:46):
Hey the streets of a thousand points bit i'm not ever.

Speaker 7 (30:49):
SAYING nothing, ABOUT his ass to this ship i mean
i ain't Never. Saying ship else about his ad after, july.
You can't brag me with no.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Money man see you're looking. At somebody who knew, that this.
Was coming what was going on he. Knew don't mean
no harm. In real light it's a trick.

Speaker 7 (31:05):
LIKE us they want to be the streets. I want
to come back to the streets. I want to come
back to, the, treasure that's why it's the loot. Everybody,
man but everybody who in these. Streets man stop responding
to this street ship you can't win with the fuck
the way you win it by, success and, being on,
this mother. These charts these streams these. Plaques, GO play

(31:27):
look up the, bill, boys REALLY i WANT to see
something REALLY because i thought, I was.

Speaker 4 (31:32):
Tripping when i ain't. SEEM yeah i'm saving the streets.
RIGHT now i thought YOU had stupid fuck? I?

Speaker 1 (31:44):
Don't know? Big a the?

Speaker 4 (31:46):
Bill boys right? What's what? What's? This top What gold on.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
See?

Speaker 4 (32:01):
That so Why is i'm arguing, with him why as i'm?

Speaker 1 (32:04):
Talking?

Speaker 7 (32:05):
With him, Who ain't on the, charge uh september fourth
we're going to man.

Speaker 4 (32:10):
Keep, Going down until you hit two hundred. See i'm.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Trying to.

Speaker 4 (32:14):
See something real.

Speaker 7 (32:15):
Fast you can't you can't you can't. Pay for you
can't pay me the troll you. Thought you were gonna
use me. With, money you can't use me with money
man you Gotta go try one. Of these otherfes.

Speaker 5 (32:27):
That.

Speaker 4 (32:31):
I'm gonna start with y'all?

Speaker 1 (32:32):
See YOUR name we? Will?

Speaker 7 (32:34):
Go two hundred can i scroll? Fast, hundred if he
ain't on. The ONE honey you know ain't two.

Speaker 4 (32:40):
Hundred, BUT i say that to say. This, Man i could.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
Have.

Speaker 7 (32:44):
Been the goofie man. I'm the trenches hope it's over.
With man you, CAN'T brag me with money so the.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
Uh i don't.

Speaker 4 (32:51):
Even know what. They name it is dead that ship.
Is you. Can't bat me.

Speaker 7 (32:56):
On the streets it's over can't bat me you. Can't
do none Of that ship church bundle there's another thing
i'm gonna talk about that should add on the sales
merch when the, last day of merch bundle.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
Sales like this like last month or Like so.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Their life was. A time where.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Dirt was climbing the Charts he was, ascending this was
right after vaughan had died and both of them were
legend that the labels were reaching out trying to incite
some kind of beef with. Each other and trying to
pay each other takashi went on a bunch, of different
trolling adventures right If you, notice he even went out
to nipsey's.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Mural and that was a very serious situation but.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
The crips didn't really let him trick him they ain't,
let him, trick him, out that they know they knew
but Boy if some of the, people that loved. Nipsey
would ever caught him it's a problem but they didn't
let him. Trick him way out there in the field
and it wasn't no one that was famous allow. Him
to put a face on the defense so. He was
able to. Attach to the defense here's what was, interesting if,

(33:56):
you were watching the screen there you saw well a couple.
Of bloggers joining? ACADEMICS was one of them. What's going
on i just got in here he, would probably take
clips putting on his platform and while, that may seem,
harmless or while people wait will, and, why people will
push back. And say well, he's live talking about it
thetrolling each other it was an. Interesting dynamic that was
birthed with these Things right some of the Posts would

(34:20):
be dirk went? Off on his instagram who he, talking
to and then if you're asking me they'll go and
get people who know how to put these fake. Comments
under there to, Kind of fuel it because at the
time takashi was noted by a lot of. The industry
to say, his numbers were inflated he had fake numbers
and they was able to do something with the YouTube

(34:41):
man where it was three, four five hundred thousand views
in twenty minutes six, million in an hour for six
days straight like he was doing, weird, shit on, YouTube
that PEOPLE was like yo it's inflation and so i
truly believed that they knew how to do something. That
encouraged a back and forth with dirt but right here

(35:01):
he was trying To pull out the slide for von.
Thing MAN it was Never, meant for this when i
think about, TAKASHI academics and some of these other people
i notice a common theme.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
That.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
The most reckless people have no responsibility right if you
know you have to, put black on and get in
the battle. You walk a little slower to the wall
you would see this shit accelerating at speeds where you would.
Think violence is not even on the table and, because
they have no realistic. View of consequences they don't even
consider it and so while they sit at their homes

(35:36):
or they sit, in these comfortable hotels or surrounded by
security they continue to fuel. Files, That they would never
have to visit right and so you got to. Remember
that recklessness never sits next to responsibility the people that
got to bear the mess and clean the mess up know.
That the mess is the very last result, and so

(35:58):
the people who don't understand that they're not even involved
in a way where they have any expectations on, Some,
of these BACK, and forth you KNOW, dirk the whole
otf not the whole otf but the ones That, were online,
going back and forth with. Takashi you KNOW they made
a grave mistake that's. What i mean when you insert
social media now you're in. A position what grief is now.

(36:18):
Group think imagine that grief used to be you go in.
The corner and try to get yourself, together by the
time you come back, out you done done some. Sort
of healing got yourself back on track dirk wasn't in a.
Scenario where he ever got to. Grieve peacefully there's no
boundaries in black culture you'll have people say protect black
men and be the same individuals that are light the

(36:40):
fire or light the way for someone. That's harming black
men or putting out rhetoric they can end up pushing black.
Men past what they have, resources to. Comprehend all this.
DIRT ain't slide just shit takashi. Was kicking i Really didn't.
NEVER respect it you know what i'm saying i think they.
Turned all of this shit. Into a circus takashi gets

(37:03):
out of Jail see what you have to understand. Is
takashi six' nine. Wasn't just a rapper he was an
agent Provocateur And. So he jumps on the slide of
Von Shitt and it ain't because He Cared, About von
you think dude Care about von hell now, he don't,
care about von but he no pain get engagement and
he's trying to raige.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Baked dirt AND.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
Really get the heat, off itself because again i, just explained,
to y'all the, ENTIRE industry was saying, not him anybody.
But him i do it, free don't pay. Him i'll,
come do it free keep your money like dudes was,
trying to box him out because in our culture what
we're taught is responsibility and. Accountability is some of the
highest forms of adulthood and so to go through what he,

(37:46):
went through and handle it the way he did all
of us and a lot of. People lost a tremendous
amount of respect for him not because we don't. Expect
him to snitch or expect people to snitch it was
the things, he done before, before he was, tooking into
custody the cloud chasing the cloud chasing And see, the
clicks and the views of collapsing ouchinari's system and. It'll

(38:10):
had you doing things to have real consequences takashi was
In the scenario where he was, popping up in chicago with.
Von shirts all mocking dirt tagging and baiting him. See
this is this ain't what the, reals do This ain't what. Responsibility,
to do this ain't, WHAT nick did know boy if
all us fails. I got to go, Pick up the

(38:31):
dog myself if all us fails i'm gonna. Have to
get out there and handle this myself so let's not.
Be so quick to push this thing the, war. Let's
not be so quick to do that right takashi was
doing all this to dirt while he. Was outside with
a police. Escort or security escort he wasn't in the
field part of the reason he. Went broke is because

(38:52):
his security was too much he was paying a tremendous
amount Of Money. Just to move around like he was
mariah carey, and so when you start To Sell thirty
thousand you got.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
Rap pungers like joe budden that will peep though he.
Ain't gonna be.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
Able to keep moving like, that it's too expensive if,
he not selling platinum if.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
He not going gold he. Ain't gonna be able.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
To Move around like that it costs too much sometimes
takashi six'. Nine would show Up and you couldn't. Even
see him that's how many nicks was surrounding him and.
He'll be dissing from the center of the security, GUARDS
if any of the security, guards are out there i
Would Like to interview you if anybody, who was protecting

(39:33):
ta kashi six' nine in TWENTY eighteen nineteen twenty when
he first Got Out From telling i would. Like to
get you on IT'S. Up there podcast for interview reach
out to my people, dm if we can verify you
are one. Of those people we definitely will talk, to
you about it but the. Boy wasn't outside for real. He,

(39:53):
was not in the field he was in the. Algorithm
now we also got to remember academics. Play the role
academic always act like he was a journalist and what
we're about to Look at after this is. That interview
would WHACK one hundred takashi sixty nine and ACADEMICS and
the reason i want. TO look at this because i
want to TIME travel back i want to travel back

(40:13):
in Time and i want you guys to remember that interview.
With takashi waking academics influenced a lot of what's happening
today but you're gonna have.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
To stay and we may get TO.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
That in part two because academics thinks rappers have. Low
iq he don't understand that they're compromising for the. Opportunity
he thinks they, don't see him doing shit, to him
when they see.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
It they, just need the opportunity so they.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
BITE their tongue long turn DON'T got no HAIR on,
it I get to say what i want when i
want because i'm willing to go through the fire, to
come out on the other side with, My skin.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
Burnt but To make.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
It on the, other side i'm willing that's what i'm
on you other nick go down. AND do WHAT need
to be done to feed, your family i figure, i
can get it done another way Respectfully to no disrespect
but act act as a journalist for. Takashi six' nine
and it's very pivotal time in hip hop but what?
Happens when you give the biggest. Clown in the game,

(41:08):
of microphone you are not reporting my name you're recruiting
other trolls other little nicks who don't really understand the inner.
City that want to be involved Or is JUST Entertainment
for them YOU have.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Now made slide for vonn and.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Rrp vaughn and p d thing you have made grief
group thinking now you guys are antagonizing a. Man and
asking him to retaliate in front. Of the viewing. Public
and so academics was not reporting with, this this is,
recruiting you give them a space totrol to incite to
monetize disrespect monetize disrespect and hide. Th old rocks and,

(41:46):
Hide your hand is. What they, call it and then you,
say I'M documenting the. Culture for me it's disrespectful to
my intellect and, i get it everybody else is faking.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
LIKE they don't see it but. Me as just some
about me i can't.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
Buy down like that and, so, ALL this documenting the
culture shit. You be doing out. THERE man i won't let,
Y'all know that like we see. Y'ALL i see what
y'all doing and. So people are not dumb i want
to be clear about that so you know a lot, of,
PEOPLE in culture see academics do this and. Still BE
like yo i want to. GET an interview with him
though i still, get ON stream doog i. Know he'd

(42:20):
be doing some wild shit but i. Still do this
and it's like at some point they're more accompassed they.
Tuck it, in their back pocket and they pull. Out
that map you know. They tuck it in. Their back
pocket but, this isn't reporting culture when you do this
if you ask me when you give, SOMEONE on a
platform to insight and to monetize.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
While people mourn i don't feel as though? That's?

Speaker 2 (42:43):
Documenting the culture how. Is that viewed as documenting the.
Culture now that's a, thirst forward the, audience has, a thirst.
Foward when you ask me you're not documenting you're curating you're.
Shaping you're throwing wood on the. FIRE that will never
burn you academics. AND all these other blogs i just
use academ. As a placeholder i don't. Do no dishing
on du. You know i'll let y'all handle that. THAT'S

(43:04):
something that affects y'all y'all, do, With THAT as you
may i stay out of y'all business right but i
do Use him as an example as, It, Pertains to
what it is i'm speaking to. People like that right
all the niggas do the. Shy wrecked vlogs you never
hear about one of. Them getting killed they wouldn't. Even
let a black man do that he'll die in the
culture he'll die in the neighborhood. If he documenting the

(43:26):
culture like that. And then he living around now, you
are die in the neighborhood someone. To drag you, in
it because it, ain't no fifty yard line when bodies
dropping when people, are dying and some and.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
When we talk.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
About powerful black men it's just worth fifty. And sixty
million dollars, and, They losing people that they, really love
you destabilize them emotionally bro you destabilize these. Boys idea
you can call them your friend while you boost up
and that's. Inciting me to go spind a block on.

(43:59):
Some slide of shit and so you, stuck in the lose,
lose when you retaliate what, they call you they. Call
you dumb. And if you don't retaliate. They call you
south it's a trap it's. An emotional chest game the
streets don't got. No love For nobody the industry, Don't.
Got no love for Nobody. Slide for vaughn ain't a bottle,

(44:19):
dirk it's a, burden to cay she. Understood that that
ain't raps that. Ain't raps THAT ain't no, balls these's
burdens they putting on me, They know i hold that
they know what he meant to me. SO they putting a.
Burden on me, In front of everybody too I gotta.
BE strong like right now i'm. IN a place where
i'm confused i go. Get me a book. I know

(44:39):
can't nothing, Do it but information. Love can't do it.
Mama can't do it daddy can't do it kids Can't.
Do it information the only thing that give me direction
and god god and information are the only two things that,
can continue through a journey when it gets this, dog
people dying you. Worth me one the Success, on one side,

(45:01):
death on one. Side by you need the bible you
need books you. Need information you got. To rage Baiting
you at the highest level let me say This you
know dirk understood somewhere along the lines that felt like
Takasha didn't even really want to see any one slide
for varm what He was looking for is just to
rage bait. And emotionally trigger dirk and, hopefully get him

(45:25):
the flashot on camera but on top of that you
had an audience that has a thirst for violence and
a thirst because of the environment that has now been
birthed on YouTube, and other platforms where they take and
dissect everything. The rappers say and a lot of these
little dudes is lying these little dudes is put in front,
of the MIC on behalf of someone trying to.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
Exit the street and so, i view it for.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
What it is but at the same time a lot
of these documentary style guys who really don't understand.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
The culture would start.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
To paint narratives as, well as the rappers they think
it's promotion somewhere along the, lines they've lost their. Footing
in which they think confessions is promotion even lying is
promotion they figure lying about crimes not knowing that it's
a reason why, you have the right to remain silent
when you and police custody because what comes out of,

(46:17):
your mouth is very. Influential, IN the way that this
case goes whether good or bad now i. SAT back
and watched the culture as they turned trauma into trends i,
felt THERE was A lot of exaggeration with some of these,
guys as Nba YOUNG boy kind of helped usher in paying,
music along With triple X and a couple of them

(46:39):
mother guys but young boys specifically ushering in a certain.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
Kind of music because of the.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
Life he apparently, lived And he spoke a certain way
about things unfortunately for me as Takashi six nine Was.
Running around, PUTTING the narrative down slide of von's slith
of von you know i was.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
One of the only voices, In culture saying this is a.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
Trick please don't Bite into this please don't pay, this
any attention and even if dirk didn't pay IT any
Attention you still had other, people that was involved with
otf that, takashi six' nine would trigger and if he
commented on their posts it would feel More so like
some sort of opportunity to go back and. Forth with

(47:19):
takashi six' nine to make the blogs and raise your
profile and. Again a lot of the street, guys is,
raised your profile at, all costs raise your profile at
all costs and listen it's a dumb decision but.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
That seems to, be the law.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
And THE constitution that dudes is, operating under at all,
costs raise your, profile if i, gotta tell loan, business
MY baby mama business my AUNTIE business my, mother Business
my kids business if.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
I got to tell him i, got canceled when. I'm
going to.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
Get surgery when my teeth was knocked out raised your
profile it all costs people, willing to go through, Hell and.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
High water with the.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
CAMERA on crown camera laugh on camera right raise your
profile at all costs a lot of these. People have
been tricked into thinking everything is promotion and everything is,
a move spending time with your nephew and your, niece
and your own, camera spending time with your granted on,
the last days in your own camera not, that you
feeling you own camera meaning you want the. World, TO

(48:20):
see it and maybe you want to. SHARE that with
your people again i. Think there's a way to do
everything a lot of you people are tacking you're doing,
a very very interesting cloud chase on, the Backs of
people who love.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
YOU and it's obvious to people like me.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
And i'm not upset with you i Just view It
for What, IT is before we look, at this, INTERVIEW
with wak and takashi and dirt i want.

Speaker 5 (48:45):
To.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Say this you know i. Wrestle with the fact, we
gotta do more man, we got to educate ourselves. Not
only educate Ourselves we got to learn technique because technique
is so important.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
One of my patreon members of YOU ain't a part of.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
The real community you don't really nderstand how much, i,
Really speak about technique technique is the difference in boxing
and jiu, jitsu right it's technique and. Technique MAKE someone
good great and make. Someone great EXCELLENT and legendary and
Iconic so I like, TO focus on technique and when

(49:19):
I think about the slade of vaughn scenario i get.
In my head and i. Wish dude had some move
around and. Really LISTEN i'm gonna be. Honest today we
got a lot To speak about. But i gotta, Be,
honest here's a point where it appears dirk is clueless cause.
It's like yo you either gotta Be, an airhead or
You gotta be clueless when you see academics friends with
takasha who's this in vaughan and this is your brother

(49:42):
and then you Go decide to sit with.

Speaker 1 (49:44):
Him and do an.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
INTERVIEW and answer, shit about, takashi and, slap of von
it Just. Confused me i get it it's music it's
business maybe someone from the lake it just didn't make
sense to me, because, Nothing could have made him go
sit with someone from sixty To Three.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Right.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
No One could have made him go sit, with someone
with kwando rondo right the morrols wouldn't, Allow him to
do that even though. They never really done nothing to him,
they've done, something to the same people these people are,
antagonizing YOU about right and again there's a, Such thing,
As a proxy war and.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
I thought that they would.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
Recognize that oh shit dirk's in a proxy war academics.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
IS funding the war i'm not.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
Even gonna say it's INTENTIONAL at this point, i don't
give if it's intentional i'm telling you what i see.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
LIKE it the Love it gets.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
Some of it in my, heart of hearts i really
wish dirk would have had some homies around, Them, or some,
people that kind of think like me around them and
say yo all, right what we gotta do is because.
Even if you can control yourself emotionally everybody around you
may can't control theyself someone may react to this, trolling

(50:51):
that this dude is doing online as he's trying to
rage bait, us as we mowing the death for, PEOPLE
that we felt strongly about him we love in My heart, Of,
hearts i really wish that someone like me could have
told dirt that yo. What we gotta do is take
that slogan and, take power over that. Slogan we, got,

(51:13):
to take the power in that slogan take it from
Him Because Listen bro the trick bag was so clear his.
Wasn't nobody peeped takashi hoole, bravado was built on and
sliding for your homeboy and at the same time his
case told us that it's entire that his entire encounter with,

(51:34):
his people in his gang was. Built on Betrayal and
he didn't Ever slide but he was never on defense
he had. Dirt ON defense because dirk never took THAT
word and Took it from, him what i, Would, have
done or What. I would advise dirt to do telling the.
Fans yo go slide for. Vonn we just put an
Album out. FOR him he just went Number one we

(51:55):
just slid. Of von i'm Rich. I just slid of
von we win number One, again We sliding For. Vaughn
this is This, right Here is. Slim for vaughn Taking
CAD's family. Nick we slide for vaughn taking CAD's. Daughter
we slang For vaughan his. Sisters mama is. Unt taking
care His, block we slammed. For vaughn In order mirror
went up we Slimed For. Vaughn platting Him again slim

(52:18):
for vaughan got him a feature with travis scott. Sliding
for vaughan they allowed him to light A Fire. That'll
never burned him you can't put the definition on slide
for vonn nia you and your homeboys kidnapped you and
hit you across the, head and the head you bigg and.
In the back seat of a car and. You went
And told on him you. Can't never talk to me

(52:39):
about nothing slide For vaughn Is what it was but
they let a sucker. Come and turn slide for vaughan from,
a rally cry to a war cry and that's why
we gotta be educated because the difference between, a rally
cry and a war. CRY is a rally cry it is,
internal and a war cry it's. EXTERNAL a war cry

(53:02):
is kill them all we come in, To kill him a.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
Rally cry is long. Live von we bawling for you long. Live.
MY people man we out here. I'm still putting up
points for.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
YOU bro i went triple double last night spend a dub,
in three places.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
I went triple double last night.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
On their folk Rally cry rally cries, for us and
war cries for them and so if dirk understood the
business he Would have, Took, ownership in power Over. The
turn and said we just, went number one nick we slid.
For von maybe we could, have redirected that and of
course you will, faced people try to. Troll it but

(53:39):
you Ignore it for the most part and you keep
pushing we are sliding for von every, time that little
sucker that his. Homeboy beat him up and took his
money and he. Would wonder y'all go you. Couldn't even
make your own homies gohot slide man y'all, ain't even
doing nothing. They don't your hand ain't got no weight on.
It your feet too little, they, don't give, a fuck what.
You said saying they'll let, you get shot killed beat

(54:02):
up and it ain't. Nobody. Gonna move on it and
you gonna be. Telling me the ghost slide brother you
ain't got the. Right rank or respect you ain't Qualified?
To talk to me about ghost slide, how. Can you
mock lord to nick your whole story. Is little with
betrayal nigga your. Whole story got betrayal written. All over
it your big HOMIT is kidnapped, you YOU can't talk

(54:25):
to me see. This one thing that i always REALIZED
and i always realized. This about me Anytime you hear
me talking and i hear. Somebody being ignorant the. First
thing i'm gonna say a whole. Love short stuff whole
love short.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
Stuff bring me.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
Somebody, with something to loure that's, gonna be the first
thing got my mouth. Man if we gonna do anything
bring me with somebody with something to loud what you
ain't gonna, do is PUT somebody in front of me
that ain't got nothing to lose and then. I, got
to go. With everything got them built over the last
twenty years boy ain't no fool bring me. Somebody with
something to loud and we can go toe. To toe

(55:01):
right now but you won't trick me into. An empty
handicap match you got to bring me somebody in my,
weight class you can't, bring me a. Featherweight or well
to wait this heavyweight this damn near sumold this big
dog so you can't bring. Me a weatherweight and Expect
me To come training. And get in The ring Main
listen to hire mane ta coshi six nine. Ain't got

(55:23):
no binges's, Telling dirk or nobody, else about doing nothing
to anyone your. Homeboys treated you they hot dogged you they.
Treated you like a rag doll so he should have been.
Treated like that he shouldn't, even been held in no.
Right rank of respect. But because academics is that he.
Keep pushing it up this is, what's interesting takoshi six.

(55:44):
Nine was never active once fifty things happened to him
he never got. Active and he the one. Started the
campaign talking about slide the drowning man can't mock my
swimming man You drowning them boys done done you all kind,
of ways your real pottners vaughn jump out, to cock
get active. On, someone and, it just ended, up happening,
this way unfortunately for everybody, involved right but man you've been,

(56:08):
kidnapped smacked around they hit your, baby mama nick run,
off with your paper kidnap you when you ain't paying
ain't retaliating for You and you got the nerve to
try to mock somebody about doing what everything you said
in court was. About betrayal and how The boy, Has
done you and Wasn't no lord. It so you're gonna

(56:29):
mock dirk. Lordy oh you a dirt you ain't lord
you ain't slid for vone boy ain't nobody being lowyal
to you since. You, stepped off that porch, with that
LITTLE money but look what Hipocrisy highlight well hypocrisy highlight
some shit and so i wish at some point dirk
would have Been. Able, to take hold and control of
the narrative attached to slide for vonn unfortunately we, live in,

(56:52):
a time where the, people on the internet think because
it's viral it's valid and so you know you have,
to deal with someone who is. Making disrespectful things towards
your family, go viral And also, the guy you know
he let, me also be clear you hold takashi. Accountable,
but IF ak is your friend he should not have.

(57:14):
Been doing that, bro and i don't thank y'all were
friends at that time. I'm not sure but this entire
thing is just. It's just crazy to me so that's
My take On part one of this we're not about
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