Lil Durk Set-Up? | Ak Lights Tekashi, Fuels Charleston White, Sparks Quando, Gassed by Youngboy Pt.1
November 6, 2024 • 41 mins
In this episode, Loon explores the chilling details behind Lil Durk’s arrest on a murder-for-hire charge, diving into what’s rarely discussed: the hidden costs of street credibility in hip-hop and the dangerous allure of gang culture. This conversation goes beyond headlines, dissecting how fame, media influence, and community pressures shape artists’ lives and lead to drastic choices. Lil Durk’s situation isn’t just a story—it’s a cautionary tale on why financial success must outweigh street respect and how the industry can push young artists into a destructive cycle. #LilDurk #StreetCred #HipHopCulture #MurderForHire #ItsUpTherePodcast #GangInfluence #DJAkademiks #kingvon What You’ll Learn: Why Revenge is Dangerous: How the pursuit of payback has shaped hip-hop and its rising stars. Media’s Influence on Violence: The double-edged sword of fame and how media can fuel conflicts. The Role of Record Labels: Should labels be held accountable for encouraging lifestyles that endanger artists? Street Cred vs. Real Power: Why young artists must prioritize long-term success over fleeting notoriety. Repping the Wrong Alliances: How gang affiliations can escalate personal conflicts into public tragedies. Timestamps: 00:00 | Welcome & Introduction: Why Lil Durk’s Case Matters 00:43 | Arrest Details: Breaking Down the Charges Against Lil Durk 01:31 | Understanding the Motives: The Cycle of Retaliation in Rap 03:09 | Street Life Reflections: Fame, Fortune & Dangerous Choices 05:36 | Record Labels’ Role: Are They Enabling a Violent Culture? 06:10 | Media’s Power Over Violence & Reputation in Hip-Hop 08:15 | The Allegations Against Lil Durk – More Than Just Music? 10:27 | Gang Reputation: The Consequences of a Street Image 12:49 | Community Pressure: When Fans and Media Fuel Conflicts 13:06 | The Dangers of Clout Chasing: From Likes to Life Sentences 15:16 | Internet Influence: How Social Media Shapes Reputation 16:45 | The Influence of Gang Culture on Hip-Hop’s New Generation 18:33 | Revenge and Redemption: Cleaning Up a Public Image 21:39 | The Rise of Gang Politics in Music – What’s at Stake? 22:42 | Lil Durk, DJ Academics & Social Media’s Role in Branding 24:32 | Public Conversations Gone Wrong: Street Life in the Spotlight 28:34 | The Trap of Street Credibility: Escaping a Dangerous Image 32:37 | Organized Crime & Hip-Hop: The Complexities in Music Culture 34:50 | Differentiating Street Legends & Entertainers: Where’s the Line? 36:29 | The Violent Price of Drill Music – Who Pays? 38:25 | The Root of Revenge: How Far Will Artists Go for Respect? 41:21 | Closing Remarks: Lessons for the Next Generation of Hip-Hop Call to Action: 👑 Watch the full breakdown of Lil Durk’s case and the unseen pressures on artists. For more exclusive insights, hit subscribe and join our Patreon: https://patreon.com/ItsUpTherePodcast Join Our Its Up There Podcast Clip Channel now https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEh6Wk40kcNcMJ4t_jtmluw Discord https://discord.gg/GJKXMWQS For all exclusive interviews & more content not here click here https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast 🚨Unreleased Interviews https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast 🦺All Merch Options teespring.com/its-up-there-podcast-merch 🎧LISTEN ON SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4Jheeb8FxYVDRo8khyrz36?si=e339dD2JRte2MYX2Uon3BQ 👀 SUBSCRIBE HERE:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl_GorAVekpEVDlk1Yc8giw 👂 LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/its-up-there-podcast/id1317524092?uo=4 👣FOLLOW ITS UP THERE PODCAST HOST : INSTAGRAM | fogfo_looney TIKTOK | https://www.tiktok.com/@fogfo_looney PATREON| https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast SUBSCRIBE TO Youtube Channel ➡️ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl_GorAVekpEVDlk1Yc8giw WATCH MORE ➡️ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwNIuOcAtoo&list=PLnwwxLxHiDWayq4HPgNYUtsAGvqe3liOO
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
News rapper Lil Dirk is charged in a murder for
Higher plot.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Little Dirk's real name is Dirk Bank and he is
from Chicago. This is his mugshot from Florida, where he
was arrested last night and is being held without bond.
This comes only hours after five people associated with his
music business we're also accused and taking part in that
murder for Higher plot. Now, the plot targeted rapper Kwondo,
Rondo's cousin who was killed in twenty twenty two. Investigators
(00:27):
believe it was retaliation for the earlier murder of Chicago
rapper King Vaughan.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
They'll post that too, because the median shit. They gonna
eat either way. They gonna eat when you acting like
a gangster to the lanes, and then they gonna eat
when they lock you up for being a gangster amongst
the lanes.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I can only.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Imagine what the federal government is saying to themselves when
you get a key to the city and they believe
you to be someone that's doing murder for highs and
freak offs and sex trafficking and things.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
You could pay too much for your reputation. Bro.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
I was just talking about this with Little Wooded Little
Wooded popping, and he famous, but he paid too much
for his fame. You pay too much to be lit, homie.
It don't coach said much. To be lit, you had
to go get on the stand. So much shit done happened.
You paid too much for that. But you paid too
(01:29):
much for your fame. You know, when I look at
wood It, that's one thing I say, Homie, he paid
too much for his fame. But like Kwando Rondo, you know,
they killed a big player. They killed a big king
slay up in Chicago. Cording to them, they let people
call him a seal. They lean into that. I was
(01:51):
push it back on the Sirira Ca. I think you're
dealing with revenge youngs tied up in some bullsh and
trying to uphold a reputation because reputation is linked.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
To what revenue.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I'll say this again, when you're dealing with that drill
culture movement and that Project Ghetto street. A reputation is
like a jump shot for a ball player when you
slay a king slave and you.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Leave the boss.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
See the problem with Kwando Rondo is they killed a
big player in the ecosystem, but they left the boss living.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Not only did Derck get tricked in this, Quando got
tricked the man. They tricked Kwando into standing on something
he didn't even do.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Some reason, I just don't see some comings on.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Sheriff said. If he's pulling out a man who happen.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Shuts in it some irida. I don't know. Maybe the
order you send the commons luck they call it.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Twenty three year old was taken a hospital where he dot.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
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what we're building as a brand, there is fights behind
the scenes. There's fights small and big, and we win some,
we lose some, but we live to fight another day.
(05:10):
When you're building a business and a brand, you gotta
be steadfast in your approach, right You gotta be one
of those kind of individuals that are standing on the
business no matter what happens, and believe in yourself, believe
in your recover speed. You know, today we're gonna talk
about Little Dirt. Little Dirt was just arrested along with
(05:32):
four other OTF members, according to the federal government, for
a murder for high plot in which Kwando Rondo was
caught out in la and his homeboy was killed.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
The fears are legend that Little Dirt made the call
for that man.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Today, I got so much to talk about just surrounding
all this right here, because the streets is dead. The
streets are dead, and it's always from the inside they
get you. I want to play this news press release
about Dirk being arrested, and then I'll come back with
some commentary road to tape.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
We want to begin now with some breaking news.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
Rapper Lil Dirk is charged in a murder for higher plot.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Little Dirk's real name is Dirk Bank and he is
from Chicago. This is his mugshot from Florida, where he
was arrested last night and is being held without bond.
This comes only hours after five people associated with his
music business were also accused and taking part in that
murder for higher plot. Now, the plot targeted rapper Kwondo
Rondo's cousin, who was killed in twenty twenty two. Investigators
(06:41):
believe it was retaliation for the earlier murder of Chicago
rapper King Vaughan.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
So as you see, you see the government stem they
feel like that little Dirk was intentional on retaliating for
what happened to King Von in Atlanta, would rap a
Kwondo Rondo and his pro jd Little Tim. I ain't
gonna lie. The pressure been on Kwando Rondo. You can
kind of tell he been trying to tap out. See
(07:09):
I always say like I'll leave. That's why I don't
want to be one of these goof as podcasts that's
running around the ghetto talking about man. Now, that ain't
my vibration. Man, I'm trying to tell the young get
some money. The money leads you to some information. If
you got the kind of mind that's open to learning,
all you gotta do is be open to learning. You
ain't even got to know it when you start walking.
(07:31):
Just be open to learning. I'm on that vibration. I
don't want to come to your neighborhood. Home and under
no circumstances unless we celebrating where you came from.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Don't have these young frown me with guns.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
And I don't want to see y'all that, Like if
you got some real security button that up, I'm gonna
take care of me and mine.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
We gonna be all right. You dig what I'm saying.
But I don't want to see y'all that. That's goofy.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
And so I want to come on here and not
even I want. I gotta come on here and elevate
the game and let know the streets is dead. All
that rough tough, chit to chatter don't even matter. I
got to tell the streets that. But it makes it
rough on this one. It makes it rough for me
(08:18):
on this one because I understand how you can be
a little dirt. You feel like I done lost for
so long. I don't let them get away with this
and get away with that. I got the money now.
If they violate, now it's up. And maybe you let
something slide, But what happened, it wasn't one of my
(08:41):
best friends. And I ain't gonna lie all of us
that come from the ghetto. That is the one instance
where you may be excused.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Where they like.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
But damn, bro, he rolled for his best friend. It
ain't worth your life. It ain't worth your life. But
I do know where we come from. We appreciating and
applaud those that ride for the falling soldiers. Right, So
that's a scenario. Why was just reading a press release
(09:13):
about a dude that when in dated his brother X
just to knock off. So this is less about rap
music and how rap fuels this drama. This is about revenge.
It could be fueled by rapping. And another point I
want to make is these big record labels, Universal and
(09:35):
Otherwise they better start helping these rappers because if they
get fifteen or twenty of these rappers locked up, you
guys are basically funding criminal organizations and they maybe can
approach you guys in some kind of way. Right, So
think about it. That's Young Thug, that's Little Dirt, that's
Young Boy. That's three of the top artists in the
game for the last ten years.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
And that's just three. That's just you can go under
that and it really start, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Adding up, you get the pool Shisters and all these
other things is in there during time, right, so you
gotta remember.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
That they're painting a picture.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
But I want to be the voice that's reasonable enough
to look at this and say, but hold on, y'all.
I know Dirk rapped about certain things, and I know
they said certain things, but you're dealing with revenge, don
And as unfortunate as that sounds, it's probably one of
the one times people excuse it. You do something to
my mama, I got to have you, you do something
(10:37):
to my children, you take away somebody I really truly loved.
As a problem associated with that, and then you couple
with that.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Media's role in it.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
How you don't remember the slide on Vaughan, the documentaries,
the Internet trolling.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
The way they amplify the chaos. Right, it's all entertainment.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
I keep cock cop when people dying like you start
seeing documentaries pop up like there's a reason tremp loo
Ross ain't sat back down with me.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Treblooss said with everybody.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
I got him, So I think I put him in
a corner last time, and he felt the way because
the conversations with me, we called it out. We try
to really get down to it, and it maybe get
a little chippy, but you'll see documentaries, videos, you'll see
posts engaging and enhancing whatever issues. That was a point
(11:44):
in time, and this is what I find interesting about media.
And this is the part that morally, I think it
gets in my way because I don't owe nothing to
the game. If I operate like these gentlemen, you'll have
media companies.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
In particular.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Let me rewind you, guys, because I think this is
a very good case study. You know, it's a cautionary
tale as to classic example, as to playing both sides
of the field. I remember there was a point of time,
and you gotta remember the time we're talking about in
which the federal government is a legend that Little Dirt
(12:18):
was involved in sending a hit. Let me give you
a little bit of the factual elements of the case.
The FED said that the credit cards used to book
the flights were used with OTF business cards.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Kind of sounds like a setup. We'll get to that
in a minute.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Not only did they use the OTF business banking cards
and banking details that clearly'll send you back to Little
Dirk and his company, they also had an informant where
in Awaii. Now we don't know what the WYO has
got so far the elements read that Dirt and a
couple of his individuals were contacted at Kwando Rondo was
(12:58):
out on the West coast, and so what Dirk did,
according to the paperwork, was he sent a couple of
guys out there and say I want this.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Took care of one of the guys.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
According to the federal government, was sent there on a
private jet attached to the OTF record label. They go
out there, they try to get two birds with one stone,
and they end up getting the wrong guy and rip
to that gentleman, which is Kwando Rondo's one of Kwando
Rondo's friends. I remember that video coming out, and little
(13:29):
Dirk had to lean into that video until the fans
say something. Now, academics post that. Yay all, y'all posting
when they treat me bad. That's what y'all wanted. Huh
post that now?
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Huh?
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Who the king?
Speaker 6 (13:44):
Now?
Speaker 1 (13:48):
And then guess what they'll post that too, because the
media they gonna eat either way. They gonna eat when
you acting like a gangster to the lanes, and then
they gonna eat when they lock you up for being
a gangster amongst lanes. Then they gonna put you amongst
the gangsters, and we'll see how far they gangster shit.
But Kwando Rondo was the talk and he just he
(14:09):
just made it out. And let me say this, Quando
Rondo being ready to tap out of that. You can
pay too much for your reputation, bro, I was just
talking about this with Little Wooded, Little Wooded popping and
he famous, but he paid too much for his fame.
You paid too much to be lit, homie. It don't
coach set much to be lit. You had to go
(14:30):
get on the stand. So much happened. You paid too
much for that. But you paid too much for your fame.
You know, when I look at Wooded, that's one thing
I say, homie, he paid too much for his fame.
But like Kwando Rondo, you know they killed a big player.
They killed a big king slay up in Chicago.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Cording to them.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
They let people call him a serial killer. They lean
into that. I was pushing back on the serial killer
sh I think you're dealing with revenge younges tied up
in some bullshit and trying to uphold a reputation, because
reputation is linked to what revenue. I'll say this again,
(15:15):
when you're dealing with that drill culture movement and that
project Ghetto Street.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
A reputation is like a jump shot for a ball player.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Robert Dorry was on six seventeens before they let him go.
Somebody gonna always draft Robert Orry because he got a
jump shot. And so what I'm saying is it go
a long way when you slay a king slave and
you leave the boss. See the problem with Kwando Rondo
is they killed a big player in the ecosystem, but
(15:45):
they left the boss living. If Quando Rondo knew what
he knows now, and he would have because I think
that after it first happened that the streets wasn't as
shocked as they pretended to be because like a lot
of people's like yo, when things like that happen, you
(16:06):
expect the people to ride with you, to ride with you.
What I think it up was Quondo Rondo's response when
you insert young boy, which put gasoline on Quondo. So
Quando felt like big dog in this with me. We
can go, we can take it all the way to
the You see what I'm saying. And they start repping,
(16:26):
and when they start rapping, that put the pressure on you.
When they start rapping on knocking down one of your
home boys. And every time you're trying to promote your
album about under the comments. Then when they under the comments,
the same that you with in the media, he go
on the stream and talk about slide for Vonn. They
saying you ain't sliding for Vonn. Not only that, the
(16:52):
same dude that you went and done an interview with.
And this is what I'm saying, the cloud chasing and
cause you to crash out, my nigga, y'all gotta for people.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
That's genuinely with y'all.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
I don't know how to tell you to gauge it,
but if I'm me and I'm a little dirt, and
there's a guy in the media that's allowing Takashi six '
nine to chop down one of the pillars of our
record label, of our community, of whatever this is that
we've built as it pertains the OTF and disrespect him.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Go put a jacket on it.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
They were making this oviral and then Dirk ran over
and done an interview with him and was answering questions.
We're gonna get to that in a minute. Let's get
back to Kwando Rundo And I know I'm all over
the place because it's so much to talk about with
this shit, Like I really want to go all the
way down through them, but I'm gonna stay surface level
because I want to buy it to the tos, to
the guidelines of YouTube.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Right.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
But Kwando Rundo should have tapped out a long time ago.
I think how he responded to it was the issue.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
I think the disrespect.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Following the murder of King Vaughan was what made this
personal and made it turn into revenge because at first
I even saw Dirt trying to He had a attitude
at first like, man, y'allick in Chicago ain't ever done
nothing to us. But then when y'all start rapping all
(18:18):
y'all to have made y'allself my real opposition off some
It happened at night, like you know, fifteen years went bad.
I don't know, maybe we could have looked at that,
but y'all gonna start rapping on it alight, stand on
that boss man d Low. Not only did Dirt get
tricked in this, Kwando got tricked in this.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Man.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
They tricked Kuwando into standing on something he didn't even do.
They had Kwando running around dissing, getting itself, dug deeper
into this about this internet about something he didn't even
do his homeboard done. They made him wad like now
killed him. You see what I'm saying you the face
(19:05):
of killing him. And he stood on that instead of saying, man, look,
Vaughn came and me that night was unfortunate. Like you know,
he jumped out. I don't even know what that was
about it. Try to stand on it because first of all,
let me say this, especially the podcast content, internet YouTube,
all these us is telling you the slide is the
suck is just letting slide. These is having unfinished business,
(19:30):
theesus having going on that they ain't responding to, and
they be acting tough in y'all area.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Man, don't let the.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Trick you in the in the being no murderer, getting
yourself killed. I rather tricker young in the believing he
can be a median. I rather trick a young dude
in the believing yo, I'm the best rapper alive. I'd
rather see popping like that with no results. Then the
pop in that killers. And so it's the ones that's
hyping everything. It's letting they eat either way. They know
(20:03):
you're gonna run and talk to him when you out here,
and when you go in there, they'll eat off Tom
about it as well. Let's sen him out a little bit,
deal with some of the details. Kwando Rondo is a
rolling sixty crib from Savannah, Georgia. And I say Savannah,
Georgia because I think it's I think it's important for
us to know. Like rolling sixty crips is in La Gang,
(20:27):
but a sector, a division of it is in Savannah, Georgia.
Quando Rondo is in La which is the land of
the gang that he represents. But some kind of way
people get his dropped in the paperwork. They're legend that
little dirts people gets off the plane and link with
somebody that knows exactly what his little nigga at and
where he going and what mild he at and what
(20:50):
gas station he at. He ain't told nobody, but his
home is he in war at that time? Who don't
believe Quando Rondo in war at that time? Y'all done
killed the kid. He ain't slave. Y'all done killed somebody
that they say was one of the men. So if
they saying he wanted them men, and y'all smoked him
and left the boss alive. The boss ain't gonna take
that lightly. They made grave mistakes. Nick, they made grave mistakes.
(21:16):
But Kwando Rondo go out there and tell. In my opinion,
he gotta tell his homis. You ain't gonna tell the
other side of the enemies. You out there and where
you're going and what CALLU in. They even got videos
of them following them in all kind of shit. So
they tap in with somebody from the West Coast. According
to the paperwork, the OTF members traveled to get the
job done, and that shows in the Fair's eyes.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
That shows a.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Thirst for blood, a thirst for revenge. Now, if you
ask me, little Dirk ain't no dummy, and he got
a lot of money and he's a resourceful man. If
I didn't know any better, and I didn't know Dirk,
it could appear that he was trying to clean up
knowing it was coming.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Right.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
If you do really believe you're going fed, you get
what you know what I'm saying. I believe a Muslim
call is something that his father was in, you know
what I'm saying. So I think he got roots to
the Muslim side of things. So that's that'll be easy
for him to tap right in as a as some
one of importance, you know what I'm saying for that
(22:21):
community behind bars, But it felt like he was trying
to clean his image and turn it around. And for me,
it's akin to Diddy. I can only imagine what the
federal government is saying to themselves when you get a
key to the city and they believe you to be
someone that's doing murder for highs and freak offs and
sex trafficking and things. Right so, in particular with Little Dirt,
(22:45):
I believe the Fairs take that kind of disrespectful like
this thing he owned some James Saint Patrick, what you
think you, James Saint Patrick, you dig what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
You gonna just get the key to the city and
send hits. It's like the Fears.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Don't even commute the kate with the government and let
them know, Yo, we investigating them people, because it could
compromise the investigation.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
One thing I've noticed about.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
California and California individuals, at least in my time of
you know, being involved a couple different things. You know,
because as I get older, I look back and I say, Yo,
how did the gang bang and spread and how did
it get respected because Kate no man come one deep
somewhere and just put his game down without nobody around
(23:33):
there willing to you dig. So when I think about that,
my mind says, and I only know this from being
kind of involved, the California was leaving Cali because of
the three strike law, so they was taking their gang
banging game with them, and so they'll get two strikes
up there in depth, and wherever they got family ed
(23:55):
they take, they take their culture with them. So if
they nine, they mainstream to roll in sixty or they
some kind of blood or crip, you know what I'm saying,
they take that game with them. What I also noticed
is that a California can come to a city and
certain people will put him big homing over their real
homes and they don't even know the California knicks. I
(24:19):
remember one time it was someone running from some snitching allegations,
but he was a big homing in another city, you
know what I'm saying. So California has a way with politicket,
but I truly believe that it's spread because of that
three strike law. Those that are having the charges that
have you eligible for a three strike law are active
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gang bangers, people that are actually getting assaults, whatever it
may be. And so they're moving them out of California.
After two strikes. They're like, Yo, we're getting out of Cali.
They're giving life. If I catch a traffic ticket, now
I'm finna go to Tennessee, or I'm finna go to
North Carolina, or I'm finna go to Arkansas, Arizona, Memphis.
You know what I'm saying, go to some spots. I
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want to take a look at Little Dirt and DJ Academics.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Some reason, I just doing some comings on Sure said.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
That he's pulling out a man who having.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Shots in an suv it some Irida I don't know,
might be the orders.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
A passenger in that.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Story you sent commons a lot. They call it chill doll.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
Why twenty three year old was taken to a hospital.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Where he died.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
I'm thinking that one clip. You know, you learn so
much about the mind state. You know, everybody be saying, yo,
don't let the Internet get to you. That's on the internet. Hey,
that's on the internet. We ain't worried about the Internet.
But if you got something for sale, if you're a rapper,
if you someone that is a celebrity or your influence
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is important to your brand and business. Then the Internet
starts to play more of a role, you know what
people of saying, And a human being can't just block
this out if he's on there and he's seeing it
and these videos are popping up, and the way the
algorithm works, you can just cut your YouTube on and
see a this about you because it's you all that
(26:14):
slide for Vaughn And here it is he's sitting with
somebody like academics and they talking about Slade for Vaughn.
Not only that this was a two or three hour
interview about all killing. Granted it is in the music,
but this is what they called a classic interview. Now
if you look on the other side of the street,
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around the same time was when I had did the
interview with.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Little Baby.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
No Books.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Classic and so in real time you're able to see
the market and you're able to see him struggle for
like what's going on. In my opinion, Dirk made a
mistake doing like for me. And I say this respectfully
the academics. But if it was me and academics asking
me about the slide for Vaughn and murders, and if
I'm scaredy and this and that.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Man, Hey man, you a square from Delaware.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Man, Hey man, I ain't got no business explaining to
you the details.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Man.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
You see what I'm saying. You a square from Delaware. Man,
You just you dig.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
And so for me to even be sitting next to
academics explaining about the ops was crazy to me. But
that's your boy, so I can't say nothing. I'm not
as offended by academics as I used to be because
y'all ain't offended. Nah, I don't play Superman. I ain't
(27:36):
got no being in playing Superman.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
You know what I mean. So if y'all are let six.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
' nine dis King Vaughn with academics and run around
with academics this and King Von and then next thing
you know, you and academics hell are cool, and then
you are sitting next to academics and talk about the opposition.
I'm saying these are mistakes for someone that's really involved
with things. He got a platform, he gonna go speak
and talk went to g Yeah he would kind of,
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you know. And I know academics isn't happy that Dirk
is in jail, but his reaction in his stream from
the clips I saw was a very interesting reaction for
someone's friend to have been went to jail.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
You know, the unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Reality is a lot of these young boys are letting them,
letting the Internet troll them and to commit murders and
trick them out they spot they putting them in a
trick bag. You know, I'm trying to be a guard reel.
I'm trying to put a fence around the opportunities. I
even tell my sons, like, don't jump in it too early.
Let the play develop, give yourself time to be something,
(28:37):
Give yourself time to do something. You know, if this
is a real situation, let them folks think they got
away what they were thirsty for it because the Internet.
And I don't want to just be the person that's
talking about some of the contradictions without giving you an example.
And again, if y'all ain't mad at academics, loan ain't
mad at academics. I gotta just do what I'm doing.
(28:58):
And so I want you guys to pay attention to
the contradiction. You know, one minute academics sits with little dirt.
And again, if y'all ain't mad at academics, I ain't
mad at him, right, because it don't affect me at all.
But one minute he'll sit with Dirk and he'll talk
about sliding for Vaughn and all these different murders and
how tough and street people are around him, and how
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he may look scared.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Three or four hours of.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Chaos later on the same show, you'll get content like
this roto tape.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
More.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Dirk set up here and said, oh, I don't hear
them say it slap for vanmore out under water.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
He was alluding to Little Pop getting killed at in La.
If you know anything about the situation, you know that
little Dirt ain't do it. But somehow More dorug Is
on this pop floor tried to the same way. You
can still Little Pop to come off as gangster.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
And that's what I don't respect what he's as round
see this night, you gotta be quish rap.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
I don't play that the highlight whatever that little gitleman said,
I play that to I play that.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
So we pay attention to the fact that even though
it happened, and even though Dirk was alluding to it,
because you want to squash the book.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
He want to set some kind of standard.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
So I'm even alluding to some it may have happened,
and then on the internet who will let in and
everything slide. I still come out and say, man, he
ain't do it, he's just trying to look gangst It
ain't worth nothing.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
It's a trick bag you in. Whether you do it
or don't do it. Then people that think you ain't
that they ain't gonna never think you that.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
You can't prove to no group of people you that
without crashing out. See, they put a trick on it.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Prove to me, prove prove you gangster, to prove you gangster.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
What I see happening is they gonna slide both them
murders and probably hit them with some kind of racketeering.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
I truly believe that.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Very soon you're gonna see FBG Ducks murder involved in
this as well, because if I remember right, there were
alluding to his name being in the paperwork as well
as King Vaughn Dirk is facing the death penalty. That's
what they're saying, like this is not some fly by
(31:21):
night thing. This is murder for hya. It's interesting because
out of self interest again I'm gonna repeat this, out
of self interest, these record labels are gonna have to
insert themselves at some point the bigger labels or they're
gonna pull off funding, and it may be the end
of record labels and rap as we know it, because
(31:44):
if they get enough of these rappers going to jail
and getting hit with ricos and freak offs and all
of that can kind of convolude exactly what is music
and who's right who's wrong. Because when you even look
at dirt just say that, they say, Yo, here's a
murder for hire. This dude was worth thirty million, forty
(32:06):
million dollars. Well, he didn't make the forty million off
the street. He made the forty million legitimate through a business.
With his business is through this business that gets a
piece of all the money that he makes. How did
this indictment play into FBG ducks mom's lawsuit? And so
you know it's allowed to get to for that. I'm
(32:28):
someone that's trying to celebrate getting hustling and getting money
and not hustling with a negative connotation. You know, even
black people sometimes say hustling has a negative connotation. Well,
we're gonna have to redefine it.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Now.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Here's why I think things get interesting because if I'm
being honest. You may can make a case that Dirk
was set up by his homeboy if what I'm reading
is correct. Dirk specifically sent the message and told these
people do not book no flights with my name, but
yet you still use the card to book the flights. Yeah,
(33:06):
I may never told you about the murder, but you
know two plus two is folk. We probably talked to
the same people. You probably knew that I knew that
Kwando was out there, and then you probably know I'm
sending the smackers out there.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
You know who the smackers is. If I say, YO,
get such and such and such and such a ticket
out to LA and don't put it in my name,
you might know what that means.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Right, So it could have been a setup, because there's
no way you can tell me that people that's been.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Involved in that level of war, that serious of an.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Habitat and atmosphere in Chicago, a father that's been locked
up twenty some add years, and they don't know that
you can't use the card to book the flights to
go and commit a murder. This seems almost like you
serve Dirk up on a platter, be too dumb and
stupid to handle these kind of shit, and sometimes you
(34:00):
gotta tell him exactly what to do. Hey, knock him out, man, Listen,
you supposed to know, man, he knock him out without
somebody saying that.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
I ain't supposed to be able to tell you that.
You sposed to no protocol, you understand me.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
I shouldn't even never have to tell no one though,
run though, if I'm looking for him here in La
y'all supposed to handle that.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
I'm just supposed to watch the news like everybody else.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
If he was really running organized crime the way these
charges come down, it wouldn't even be no conversation. Man,
soon as Vaughn got killed, nobody has to talk, we
know for a fact. To get them boys, whenever we
see them, stalk them boys, lay on them boards, send
the smackers out there.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Lay down on them folks. Make them pay for what
they've done us. You see.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
But y'all gotta get told what to do. Hey, he's
in Kelly, Hey go out there. Hey, do not use this,
Hey don't go there. Hey, don't do it like this, yo, bro,
I'm too involved in this, So just let it ride.
Y'all gonna crash out this whole. It's a difference between
shooters and hit me. And that's something people don't understand.
A shooter is someone just to pull up and start
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shooting a hit man to go get his guy.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
He'll go get his guy. You see what I'm saying.
And it's just interesting.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Man.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
You can't make those kind of mistakes where you putting
stuff like that in your name just under no circumstances.
It just I mean, it just cannot happen. And so
again my heart goes out the dirt because I know
he was in a confusing state. And that's when the
big homies come in. That's when some people really come in.
And you know what I'm saying, bruh, The real in
(35:40):
this game will tell you like we'd have had conversations
in these interviews about that and cut out like nah,
it ain't no, we ain't putting that out. And that's
something that everybody want to know, and it's some that's
going viral. People want to know this. They gonna run
off and make documentaries about it. We're not putting that
out because you in a state even with the NBA,
(36:00):
young boy and everybody know Wallo, Wallo is like my brother.
I got a lot of respect for Walloh Wallo and
get me and doll Worth a game went out there
with young boy when he was strung out on them drugs,
he really was saying, please don't put that out, bro,
don't look right, please bro. And so what I'm saying is,
at some point we got to care about people's mind state.
(36:20):
When we look at Dirt, when he did that interview
with academics and addressed all these killings and all this
drill music and all these different things, Yo, D Thing
had got killed, you gotta think about the mindset. And
that's why you know, I want to talk to the
baby because I want I want to deal with the
mindset of things.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
When Dirt d thing had got killed, King Vaughn had
got killed, Takashi was online saying all kind of crazy NBA.
Young Boy and them started rapping about it. Kwando and
them started flexing and repping on the charge in White
amplified Little Tim even more. Charleston White became a thing
(37:02):
and he was dissing for a while. That amplified a
lot of the comments like braud that were coming at
their young all kind of ways.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
And he were going through loss. But this is what
y'all wanted.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Y'all ain't celebrating now, Huh, Slide for Von ain't that what.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Y'all was saying. Slide for Vaughn be the same.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
But somebody always gotta go feed to be dead for
the picture should be fun. All that slad for Von.
We honor Von named. We're gonna live for Von. And
if the opportunity presents itself. You know, I'm a gambling man,
(37:59):
but you don't push the line like that. You know
they had some level of you know, they had some
level of organization, because he could have just sent the
money to the West Coast and let somebody try to
you know, let one of them smackers try to get
up on him. Now, I'm gonna send my guys. It's
what the fears are, legend and I feel for Dirt.
(38:22):
And this is what I talked about last week. Yo,
we don't pass gangster down to the kids. I got
no respect for passing gangster shit down to the kids.
That don't mean I disown gangsters. It's to pass down.
I got a problem with not just the being of gangsters.
Like some of this birthed out of necessity, birthed out
(38:43):
of revenge. We're dealing with dirt now. This here wasn't
birthed out of rap music. This was birthed out of revenge.
And we all know what revenge is. Like we all
done had to try to get somebody back or wanted
to get somebody back. Maybe just not being powerful enough
to get somebody back. But what if you are powerful
(39:05):
enough and they killed your friend. You gotta be a
patient man. And I say, vengeance is the Lord's you
know when it comes to me, and I mean this,
This ain't trolling. This ain't content when I ain't doing that.
I'm telling you all my guns is never for nothing
(39:27):
but protection on me. I ain't looking to rob no
million dollar a mouthpiece. I ain't looking to take nothing
from nobody. I ain't looking to be no nuisance to nobody.
I'm willing to move if you don't want me around.
Like I'm just a good hearted I don't want to
be a burden on nobody. I don't want to ask
nobody for nothing. It's rough on me just even making
(39:47):
one text a phone call about can you help me
with something?
Speaker 3 (39:51):
So much they're so heavy on me because I don't
want to.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Be disappointed in you so I keep it out your pocket,
I keep it off your plate. I try to keep
you away from me having any expectations of you. But
is that real friendship? Is that real partnership? Is that
real love? If I have no expectations on you? You
see what I'm saying. So we all deal with bruh
(40:16):
coming from where we come from. I want to listen
to a little bit of academics and react to it.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Then we'll get out of here, you know.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
In closing, and I'm sure we'll have many more videos
on this, But in closing, I think that the drill
music does not represent hip hop as a whole.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
I want to be clear about that. The drill side
of things does have.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
A toxic obsession with reputation, and so that toxic masculinity
lends itself to men proving themselves to men and not
being able to jump over the hurdles of life in
a way that they can forget. He'll forget and move on.
But it wasn't just you know again, like right now,
(41:08):
little Dirk just got arrested. But I'm guaranteeing you this.
The blogs are gonna post the people that love Dirk
and are saying, please man, Dirk. Free Dirk, but they're
also gonna post the people that's dissing Dirk.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
They're gonna eat either way. I see y'all next time.
Let's get it.
News rapper Lil Dirk is charged in a murder for
Higher plot.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Little Dirk's real name is Dirk Bank and he is
from Chicago. This is his mugshot from Florida, where he
was arrested last night and is being held without bond.
This comes only hours after five people associated with his
music business we're also accused and taking part in that
murder for Higher plot. Now, the plot targeted rapper Kwondo,
Rondo's cousin who was killed in twenty twenty two. Investigators
(00:27):
believe it was retaliation for the earlier murder of Chicago
rapper King Vaughan.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
They'll post that too, because the median shit. They gonna
eat either way. They gonna eat when you acting like
a gangster to the lanes, and then they gonna eat
when they lock you up for being a gangster amongst
the lanes.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I can only.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Imagine what the federal government is saying to themselves when
you get a key to the city and they believe
you to be someone that's doing murder for highs and
freak offs and sex trafficking and things.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
You could pay too much for your reputation. Bro.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
I was just talking about this with Little Wooded Little
Wooded popping, and he famous, but he paid too much
for his fame. You pay too much to be lit, homie.
It don't coach said much. To be lit, you had
to go get on the stand. So much shit done happened.
You paid too much for that. But you paid too
(01:29):
much for your fame. You know, when I look at
wood It, that's one thing I say, Homie, he paid
too much for his fame. But like Kwando Rondo, you know,
they killed a big player. They killed a big king
slay up in Chicago. Cording to them, they let people
call him a seal. They lean into that. I was
(01:51):
push it back on the Sirira Ca. I think you're
dealing with revenge youngs tied up in some bullsh and
trying to uphold a reputation because reputation is linked.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
To what revenue.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I'll say this again, when you're dealing with that drill
culture movement and that Project Ghetto street. A reputation is
like a jump shot for a ball player when you
slay a king slave and you.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Leave the boss.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
See the problem with Kwando Rondo is they killed a
big player in the ecosystem, but they left the boss living.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Not only did Derck get tricked in this, Quando got
tricked the man. They tricked Kwando into standing on something
he didn't even do.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Some reason, I just don't see some comings on.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Sheriff said. If he's pulling out a man who happen.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Shuts in it some irida. I don't know. Maybe the
order you send the commons luck they call it.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Twenty three year old was taken a hospital where he dot.
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When you're building a business and a brand, you gotta
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of those kind of individuals that are standing on the
business no matter what happens, and believe in yourself, believe
in your recover speed. You know, today we're gonna talk
about Little Dirt. Little Dirt was just arrested along with
(05:32):
four other OTF members, according to the federal government, for
a murder for high plot in which Kwando Rondo was
caught out in la and his homeboy was killed.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
The fears are legend that Little Dirt made the call
for that man.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Today, I got so much to talk about just surrounding
all this right here, because the streets is dead. The
streets are dead, and it's always from the inside they
get you. I want to play this news press release
about Dirk being arrested, and then I'll come back with
some commentary road to tape.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
We want to begin now with some breaking news.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
Rapper Lil Dirk is charged in a murder for higher plot.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Little Dirk's real name is Dirk Bank and he is
from Chicago. This is his mugshot from Florida, where he
was arrested last night and is being held without bond.
This comes only hours after five people associated with his
music business were also accused and taking part in that
murder for higher plot. Now, the plot targeted rapper Kwondo
Rondo's cousin, who was killed in twenty twenty two. Investigators
(06:41):
believe it was retaliation for the earlier murder of Chicago
rapper King Vaughan.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
So as you see, you see the government stem they
feel like that little Dirk was intentional on retaliating for
what happened to King Von in Atlanta, would rap a
Kwondo Rondo and his pro jd Little Tim. I ain't
gonna lie. The pressure been on Kwando Rondo. You can
kind of tell he been trying to tap out. See
(07:09):
I always say like I'll leave. That's why I don't
want to be one of these goof as podcasts that's
running around the ghetto talking about man. Now, that ain't
my vibration. Man, I'm trying to tell the young get
some money. The money leads you to some information. If
you got the kind of mind that's open to learning,
all you gotta do is be open to learning. You
ain't even got to know it when you start walking.
(07:31):
Just be open to learning. I'm on that vibration. I
don't want to come to your neighborhood. Home and under
no circumstances unless we celebrating where you came from.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Don't have these young frown me with guns.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
And I don't want to see y'all that, Like if
you got some real security button that up, I'm gonna
take care of me and mine.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
We gonna be all right. You dig what I'm saying.
But I don't want to see y'all that. That's goofy.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
And so I want to come on here and not
even I want. I gotta come on here and elevate
the game and let know the streets is dead. All
that rough tough, chit to chatter don't even matter. I
got to tell the streets that. But it makes it
rough on this one. It makes it rough for me
(08:18):
on this one because I understand how you can be
a little dirt. You feel like I done lost for
so long. I don't let them get away with this
and get away with that. I got the money now.
If they violate, now it's up. And maybe you let
something slide, But what happened, it wasn't one of my
(08:41):
best friends. And I ain't gonna lie all of us
that come from the ghetto. That is the one instance
where you may be excused.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Where they like.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
But damn, bro, he rolled for his best friend. It
ain't worth your life. It ain't worth your life. But
I do know where we come from. We appreciating and
applaud those that ride for the falling soldiers. Right, So
that's a scenario. Why was just reading a press release
(09:13):
about a dude that when in dated his brother X
just to knock off. So this is less about rap
music and how rap fuels this drama. This is about revenge.
It could be fueled by rapping. And another point I
want to make is these big record labels, Universal and
(09:35):
Otherwise they better start helping these rappers because if they
get fifteen or twenty of these rappers locked up, you
guys are basically funding criminal organizations and they maybe can
approach you guys in some kind of way. Right, So
think about it. That's Young Thug, that's Little Dirt, that's
Young Boy. That's three of the top artists in the
game for the last ten years.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
And that's just three. That's just you can go under
that and it really start, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Adding up, you get the pool Shisters and all these
other things is in there during time, right, so you
gotta remember.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
That they're painting a picture.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
But I want to be the voice that's reasonable enough
to look at this and say, but hold on, y'all.
I know Dirk rapped about certain things, and I know
they said certain things, but you're dealing with revenge, don
And as unfortunate as that sounds, it's probably one of
the one times people excuse it. You do something to
my mama, I got to have you, you do something
(10:37):
to my children, you take away somebody I really truly loved.
As a problem associated with that, and then you couple
with that.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Media's role in it.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
How you don't remember the slide on Vaughan, the documentaries,
the Internet trolling.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
The way they amplify the chaos. Right, it's all entertainment.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
I keep cock cop when people dying like you start
seeing documentaries pop up like there's a reason tremp loo
Ross ain't sat back down with me.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Treblooss said with everybody.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
I got him, So I think I put him in
a corner last time, and he felt the way because
the conversations with me, we called it out. We try
to really get down to it, and it maybe get
a little chippy, but you'll see documentaries, videos, you'll see
posts engaging and enhancing whatever issues. That was a point
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in time, and this is what I find interesting about media.
And this is the part that morally, I think it
gets in my way because I don't owe nothing to
the game. If I operate like these gentlemen, you'll have
media companies.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
In particular.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Let me rewind you, guys, because I think this is
a very good case study. You know, it's a cautionary
tale as to classic example, as to playing both sides
of the field. I remember there was a point of time,
and you gotta remember the time we're talking about in
which the federal government is a legend that Little Dirt
(12:18):
was involved in sending a hit. Let me give you
a little bit of the factual elements of the case.
The FED said that the credit cards used to book
the flights were used with OTF business cards.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Kind of sounds like a setup. We'll get to that
in a minute.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Not only did they use the OTF business banking cards
and banking details that clearly'll send you back to Little
Dirk and his company, they also had an informant where
in Awaii. Now we don't know what the WYO has
got so far the elements read that Dirt and a
couple of his individuals were contacted at Kwando Rondo was
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out on the West coast, and so what Dirk did,
according to the paperwork, was he sent a couple of
guys out there and say I want this.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Took care of one of the guys.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
According to the federal government, was sent there on a
private jet attached to the OTF record label. They go
out there, they try to get two birds with one stone,
and they end up getting the wrong guy and rip
to that gentleman, which is Kwando Rondo's one of Kwando
Rondo's friends. I remember that video coming out, and little
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Dirk had to lean into that video until the fans
say something. Now, academics post that. Yay all, y'all posting
when they treat me bad. That's what y'all wanted. Huh
post that now?
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Huh?
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Who the king?
Speaker 6 (13:44):
Now?
Speaker 1 (13:48):
And then guess what they'll post that too, because the
media they gonna eat either way. They gonna eat when
you acting like a gangster to the lanes, and then
they gonna eat when they lock you up for being
a gangster amongst lanes. Then they gonna put you amongst
the gangsters, and we'll see how far they gangster shit.
But Kwando Rondo was the talk and he just he
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just made it out. And let me say this, Quando
Rondo being ready to tap out of that. You can
pay too much for your reputation, bro, I was just
talking about this with Little Wooded, Little Wooded popping and
he famous, but he paid too much for his fame.
You paid too much to be lit, homie. It don't
coach set much to be lit. You had to go
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get on the stand. So much happened. You paid too
much for that. But you paid too much for your fame.
You know, when I look at Wooded, that's one thing
I say, homie, he paid too much for his fame.
But like Kwando Rondo, you know they killed a big player.
They killed a big king slay up in Chicago.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Cording to them.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
They let people call him a serial killer. They lean
into that. I was pushing back on the serial killer
sh I think you're dealing with revenge younges tied up
in some bullshit and trying to uphold a reputation, because
reputation is linked to what revenue. I'll say this again,
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when you're dealing with that drill culture movement and that
project Ghetto Street.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
A reputation is like a jump shot for a ball player.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Robert Dorry was on six seventeens before they let him go.
Somebody gonna always draft Robert Orry because he got a
jump shot. And so what I'm saying is it go
a long way when you slay a king slave and
you leave the boss. See the problem with Kwando Rondo
is they killed a big player in the ecosystem, but
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they left the boss living. If Quando Rondo knew what
he knows now, and he would have because I think
that after it first happened that the streets wasn't as
shocked as they pretended to be because like a lot
of people's like yo, when things like that happen, you
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expect the people to ride with you, to ride with you.
What I think it up was Quondo Rondo's response when
you insert young boy, which put gasoline on Quondo. So
Quando felt like big dog in this with me. We
can go, we can take it all the way to
the You see what I'm saying. And they start repping,
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and when they start rapping, that put the pressure on you.
When they start rapping on knocking down one of your
home boys. And every time you're trying to promote your
album about under the comments. Then when they under the comments,
the same that you with in the media, he go
on the stream and talk about slide for Vonn. They
saying you ain't sliding for Vonn. Not only that, the
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same dude that you went and done an interview with.
And this is what I'm saying, the cloud chasing and
cause you to crash out, my nigga, y'all gotta for people.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
That's genuinely with y'all.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
I don't know how to tell you to gauge it,
but if I'm me and I'm a little dirt, and
there's a guy in the media that's allowing Takashi six '
nine to chop down one of the pillars of our
record label, of our community, of whatever this is that
we've built as it pertains the OTF and disrespect him.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Go put a jacket on it.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
They were making this oviral and then Dirk ran over
and done an interview with him and was answering questions.
We're gonna get to that in a minute. Let's get
back to Kwando Rundo And I know I'm all over
the place because it's so much to talk about with
this shit, Like I really want to go all the
way down through them, but I'm gonna stay surface level
because I want to buy it to the tos, to
the guidelines of YouTube.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Right.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
But Kwando Rundo should have tapped out a long time ago.
I think how he responded to it was the issue.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
I think the disrespect.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Following the murder of King Vaughan was what made this
personal and made it turn into revenge because at first
I even saw Dirt trying to He had a attitude
at first like, man, y'allick in Chicago ain't ever done
nothing to us. But then when y'all start rapping all
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y'all to have made y'allself my real opposition off some
It happened at night, like you know, fifteen years went bad.
I don't know, maybe we could have looked at that,
but y'all gonna start rapping on it alight, stand on
that boss man d Low. Not only did Dirt get
tricked in this, Kwando got tricked in this.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Man.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
They tricked Kuwando into standing on something he didn't even do.
They had Kwando running around dissing, getting itself, dug deeper
into this about this internet about something he didn't even
do his homeboard done. They made him wad like now
killed him. You see what I'm saying you the face
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of killing him. And he stood on that instead of saying, man, look,
Vaughn came and me that night was unfortunate. Like you know,
he jumped out. I don't even know what that was
about it. Try to stand on it because first of all,
let me say this, especially the podcast content, internet YouTube,
all these us is telling you the slide is the
suck is just letting slide. These is having unfinished business,
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theesus having going on that they ain't responding to, and
they be acting tough in y'all area.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Man, don't let the.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Trick you in the in the being no murderer, getting
yourself killed. I rather tricker young in the believing he
can be a median. I rather trick a young dude
in the believing yo, I'm the best rapper alive. I'd
rather see popping like that with no results. Then the
pop in that killers. And so it's the ones that's
hyping everything. It's letting they eat either way. They know
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you're gonna run and talk to him when you out here,
and when you go in there, they'll eat off Tom
about it as well. Let's sen him out a little bit,
deal with some of the details. Kwando Rondo is a
rolling sixty crib from Savannah, Georgia. And I say Savannah,
Georgia because I think it's I think it's important for
us to know. Like rolling sixty crips is in La Gang,
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but a sector, a division of it is in Savannah, Georgia.
Quando Rondo is in La which is the land of
the gang that he represents. But some kind of way
people get his dropped in the paperwork. They're legend that
little dirts people gets off the plane and link with
somebody that knows exactly what his little nigga at and
where he going and what mild he at and what
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gas station he at. He ain't told nobody, but his
home is he in war at that time? Who don't
believe Quando Rondo in war at that time? Y'all done
killed the kid. He ain't slave. Y'all done killed somebody
that they say was one of the men. So if
they saying he wanted them men, and y'all smoked him
and left the boss alive. The boss ain't gonna take
that lightly. They made grave mistakes. Nick, they made grave mistakes.
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But Kwando Rondo go out there and tell. In my opinion,
he gotta tell his homis. You ain't gonna tell the
other side of the enemies. You out there and where
you're going and what CALLU in. They even got videos
of them following them in all kind of shit. So
they tap in with somebody from the West Coast. According
to the paperwork, the OTF members traveled to get the
job done, and that shows in the Fair's eyes.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
That shows a.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Thirst for blood, a thirst for revenge. Now, if you
ask me, little Dirk ain't no dummy, and he got
a lot of money and he's a resourceful man. If
I didn't know any better, and I didn't know Dirk,
it could appear that he was trying to clean up
knowing it was coming.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Right.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
If you do really believe you're going fed, you get
what you know what I'm saying. I believe a Muslim
call is something that his father was in, you know
what I'm saying. So I think he got roots to
the Muslim side of things. So that's that'll be easy
for him to tap right in as a as some
one of importance, you know what I'm saying for that
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community behind bars, But it felt like he was trying
to clean his image and turn it around. And for me,
it's akin to Diddy. I can only imagine what the
federal government is saying to themselves when you get a
key to the city and they believe you to be
someone that's doing murder for highs and freak offs and
sex trafficking and things. Right so, in particular with Little Dirt,
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I believe the Fairs take that kind of disrespectful like
this thing he owned some James Saint Patrick, what you
think you, James Saint Patrick, you dig what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
You gonna just get the key to the city and
send hits. It's like the Fears.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Don't even commute the kate with the government and let
them know, Yo, we investigating them people, because it could
compromise the investigation.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
One thing I've noticed about.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
California and California individuals, at least in my time of
you know, being involved a couple different things. You know,
because as I get older, I look back and I say, Yo,
how did the gang bang and spread and how did
it get respected because Kate no man come one deep
somewhere and just put his game down without nobody around
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there willing to you dig. So when I think about that,
my mind says, and I only know this from being
kind of involved, the California was leaving Cali because of
the three strike law, so they was taking their gang
banging game with them, and so they'll get two strikes
up there in depth, and wherever they got family ed
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they take, they take their culture with them. So if
they nine, they mainstream to roll in sixty or they
some kind of blood or crip, you know what I'm saying,
they take that game with them. What I also noticed
is that a California can come to a city and
certain people will put him big homing over their real
homes and they don't even know the California knicks. I
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remember one time it was someone running from some snitching allegations,
but he was a big homing in another city, you
know what I'm saying. So California has a way with politicket,
but I truly believe that it's spread because of that
three strike law. Those that are having the charges that
have you eligible for a three strike law are active
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gang bangers, people that are actually getting assaults, whatever it
may be. And so they're moving them out of California.
After two strikes. They're like, Yo, we're getting out of Cali.
They're giving life. If I catch a traffic ticket, now
I'm finna go to Tennessee, or I'm finna go to
North Carolina, or I'm finna go to Arkansas, Arizona, Memphis.
You know what I'm saying, go to some spots. I
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want to take a look at Little Dirt and DJ Academics.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Some reason, I just doing some comings on Sure said.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
That he's pulling out a man who having.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Shots in an suv it some Irida I don't know,
might be the orders.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
A passenger in that.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Story you sent commons a lot. They call it chill doll.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
Why twenty three year old was taken to a hospital.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Where he died.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
I'm thinking that one clip. You know, you learn so
much about the mind state. You know, everybody be saying, yo,
don't let the Internet get to you. That's on the internet. Hey,
that's on the internet. We ain't worried about the Internet.
But if you got something for sale, if you're a rapper,
if you someone that is a celebrity or your influence
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is important to your brand and business. Then the Internet
starts to play more of a role, you know what
people of saying, And a human being can't just block
this out if he's on there and he's seeing it
and these videos are popping up, and the way the
algorithm works, you can just cut your YouTube on and
see a this about you because it's you all that
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slide for Vaughn And here it is he's sitting with
somebody like academics and they talking about Slade for Vaughn.
Not only that this was a two or three hour
interview about all killing. Granted it is in the music,
but this is what they called a classic interview. Now
if you look on the other side of the street,
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around the same time was when I had did the
interview with.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Little Baby.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
No Books.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Classic and so in real time you're able to see
the market and you're able to see him struggle for
like what's going on. In my opinion, Dirk made a
mistake doing like for me. And I say this respectfully
the academics. But if it was me and academics asking
me about the slide for Vaughn and murders, and if
I'm scaredy and this and that.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Man, Hey man, you a square from Delaware.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Man, Hey man, I ain't got no business explaining to
you the details.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Man.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
You see what I'm saying. You a square from Delaware. Man,
You just you dig.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
And so for me to even be sitting next to
academics explaining about the ops was crazy to me. But
that's your boy, so I can't say nothing. I'm not
as offended by academics as I used to be because
y'all ain't offended. Nah, I don't play Superman. I ain't
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got no being in playing Superman.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
You know what I mean. So if y'all are let six.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
' nine dis King Vaughn with academics and run around
with academics this and King Von and then next thing
you know, you and academics hell are cool, and then
you are sitting next to academics and talk about the opposition.
I'm saying these are mistakes for someone that's really involved
with things. He got a platform, he gonna go speak
and talk went to g Yeah he would kind of,
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you know. And I know academics isn't happy that Dirk
is in jail, but his reaction in his stream from
the clips I saw was a very interesting reaction for
someone's friend to have been went to jail.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
You know, the unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Reality is a lot of these young boys are letting them,
letting the Internet troll them and to commit murders and
trick them out they spot they putting them in a
trick bag. You know, I'm trying to be a guard reel.
I'm trying to put a fence around the opportunities. I
even tell my sons, like, don't jump in it too early.
Let the play develop, give yourself time to be something,
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Give yourself time to do something. You know, if this
is a real situation, let them folks think they got
away what they were thirsty for it because the Internet.
And I don't want to just be the person that's
talking about some of the contradictions without giving you an example.
And again, if y'all ain't mad at academics, loan ain't
mad at academics. I gotta just do what I'm doing.
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And so I want you guys to pay attention to
the contradiction. You know, one minute academics sits with little dirt.
And again, if y'all ain't mad at academics, I ain't
mad at him, right, because it don't affect me at all.
But one minute he'll sit with Dirk and he'll talk
about sliding for Vaughn and all these different murders and
how tough and street people are around him, and how
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he may look scared.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Three or four hours of.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Chaos later on the same show, you'll get content like
this roto tape.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
More.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Dirk set up here and said, oh, I don't hear
them say it slap for vanmore out under water.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
He was alluding to Little Pop getting killed at in La.
If you know anything about the situation, you know that
little Dirt ain't do it. But somehow More dorug Is
on this pop floor tried to the same way. You
can still Little Pop to come off as gangster.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
And that's what I don't respect what he's as round
see this night, you gotta be quish rap.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
I don't play that the highlight whatever that little gitleman said,
I play that to I play that.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
So we pay attention to the fact that even though
it happened, and even though Dirk was alluding to it,
because you want to squash the book.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
He want to set some kind of standard.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
So I'm even alluding to some it may have happened,
and then on the internet who will let in and
everything slide. I still come out and say, man, he
ain't do it, he's just trying to look gangst It
ain't worth nothing.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
It's a trick bag you in. Whether you do it
or don't do it. Then people that think you ain't
that they ain't gonna never think you that.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
You can't prove to no group of people you that
without crashing out. See, they put a trick on it.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Prove to me, prove prove you gangster, to prove you gangster.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
What I see happening is they gonna slide both them
murders and probably hit them with some kind of racketeering.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
I truly believe that.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Very soon you're gonna see FBG Ducks murder involved in
this as well, because if I remember right, there were
alluding to his name being in the paperwork as well
as King Vaughn Dirk is facing the death penalty. That's
what they're saying, like this is not some fly by
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night thing. This is murder for hya. It's interesting because
out of self interest again I'm gonna repeat this, out
of self interest, these record labels are gonna have to
insert themselves at some point the bigger labels or they're
gonna pull off funding, and it may be the end
of record labels and rap as we know it, because
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if they get enough of these rappers going to jail
and getting hit with ricos and freak offs and all
of that can kind of convolude exactly what is music
and who's right who's wrong. Because when you even look
at dirt just say that, they say, Yo, here's a
murder for hire. This dude was worth thirty million, forty
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million dollars. Well, he didn't make the forty million off
the street. He made the forty million legitimate through a business.
With his business is through this business that gets a
piece of all the money that he makes. How did
this indictment play into FBG ducks mom's lawsuit? And so
you know it's allowed to get to for that. I'm
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someone that's trying to celebrate getting hustling and getting money
and not hustling with a negative connotation. You know, even
black people sometimes say hustling has a negative connotation. Well,
we're gonna have to redefine it.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Now.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Here's why I think things get interesting because if I'm
being honest. You may can make a case that Dirk
was set up by his homeboy if what I'm reading
is correct. Dirk specifically sent the message and told these
people do not book no flights with my name, but
yet you still use the card to book the flights. Yeah,
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I may never told you about the murder, but you
know two plus two is folk. We probably talked to
the same people. You probably knew that I knew that
Kwando was out there, and then you probably know I'm
sending the smackers out there.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
You know who the smackers is. If I say, YO,
get such and such and such and such a ticket
out to LA and don't put it in my name,
you might know what that means.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Right, So it could have been a setup, because there's
no way you can tell me that people that's been.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Involved in that level of war, that serious of an.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Habitat and atmosphere in Chicago, a father that's been locked
up twenty some add years, and they don't know that
you can't use the card to book the flights to
go and commit a murder. This seems almost like you
serve Dirk up on a platter, be too dumb and
stupid to handle these kind of shit, and sometimes you
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gotta tell him exactly what to do. Hey, knock him out, man, Listen,
you supposed to know, man, he knock him out without
somebody saying that.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
I ain't supposed to be able to tell you that.
You sposed to no protocol, you understand me.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
I shouldn't even never have to tell no one though,
run though, if I'm looking for him here in La
y'all supposed to handle that.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
I'm just supposed to watch the news like everybody else.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
If he was really running organized crime the way these
charges come down, it wouldn't even be no conversation. Man,
soon as Vaughn got killed, nobody has to talk, we
know for a fact. To get them boys, whenever we
see them, stalk them boys, lay on them boards, send
the smackers out there.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Lay down on them folks. Make them pay for what
they've done us. You see.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
But y'all gotta get told what to do. Hey, he's
in Kelly, Hey go out there. Hey, do not use this,
Hey don't go there. Hey, don't do it like this, yo, bro,
I'm too involved in this, So just let it ride.
Y'all gonna crash out this whole. It's a difference between
shooters and hit me. And that's something people don't understand.
A shooter is someone just to pull up and start
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shooting a hit man to go get his guy.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
He'll go get his guy. You see what I'm saying.
And it's just interesting.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Man.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
You can't make those kind of mistakes where you putting
stuff like that in your name just under no circumstances.
It just I mean, it just cannot happen. And so
again my heart goes out the dirt because I know
he was in a confusing state. And that's when the
big homies come in. That's when some people really come in.
And you know what I'm saying, bruh, The real in
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this game will tell you like we'd have had conversations
in these interviews about that and cut out like nah,
it ain't no, we ain't putting that out. And that's
something that everybody want to know, and it's some that's
going viral. People want to know this. They gonna run
off and make documentaries about it. We're not putting that
out because you in a state even with the NBA,
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young boy and everybody know Wallo, Wallo is like my brother.
I got a lot of respect for Walloh Wallo and
get me and doll Worth a game went out there
with young boy when he was strung out on them drugs,
he really was saying, please don't put that out, bro,
don't look right, please bro. And so what I'm saying is,
at some point we got to care about people's mind state.
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When we look at Dirt, when he did that interview
with academics and addressed all these killings and all this
drill music and all these different things, Yo, D Thing
had got killed, you gotta think about the mindset. And
that's why you know, I want to talk to the
baby because I want I want to deal with the
mindset of things.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
When Dirt d thing had got killed, King Vaughn had
got killed, Takashi was online saying all kind of crazy NBA.
Young Boy and them started rapping about it. Kwando and
them started flexing and repping on the charge in White
amplified Little Tim even more. Charleston White became a thing
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and he was dissing for a while. That amplified a
lot of the comments like braud that were coming at
their young all kind of ways.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
And he were going through loss. But this is what
y'all wanted.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Y'all ain't celebrating now, Huh, Slide for Von ain't that what.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Y'all was saying. Slide for Vaughn be the same.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
But somebody always gotta go feed to be dead for
the picture should be fun. All that slad for Von.
We honor Von named. We're gonna live for Von. And
if the opportunity presents itself. You know, I'm a gambling man,
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but you don't push the line like that. You know
they had some level of you know, they had some
level of organization, because he could have just sent the
money to the West Coast and let somebody try to
you know, let one of them smackers try to get
up on him. Now, I'm gonna send my guys. It's
what the fears are, legend and I feel for Dirt.
(38:22):
And this is what I talked about last week. Yo,
we don't pass gangster down to the kids. I got
no respect for passing gangster shit down to the kids.
That don't mean I disown gangsters. It's to pass down.
I got a problem with not just the being of gangsters.
Like some of this birthed out of necessity, birthed out
(38:43):
of revenge. We're dealing with dirt now. This here wasn't
birthed out of rap music. This was birthed out of revenge.
And we all know what revenge is. Like we all
done had to try to get somebody back or wanted
to get somebody back. Maybe just not being powerful enough
to get somebody back. But what if you are powerful
(39:05):
enough and they killed your friend. You gotta be a
patient man. And I say, vengeance is the Lord's you
know when it comes to me, and I mean this,
This ain't trolling. This ain't content when I ain't doing that.
I'm telling you all my guns is never for nothing
(39:27):
but protection on me. I ain't looking to rob no
million dollar a mouthpiece. I ain't looking to take nothing
from nobody. I ain't looking to be no nuisance to nobody.
I'm willing to move if you don't want me around.
Like I'm just a good hearted I don't want to
be a burden on nobody. I don't want to ask
nobody for nothing. It's rough on me just even making
(39:47):
one text a phone call about can you help me
with something?
Speaker 3 (39:51):
So much they're so heavy on me because I don't
want to.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Be disappointed in you so I keep it out your pocket,
I keep it off your plate. I try to keep
you away from me having any expectations of you. But
is that real friendship? Is that real partnership? Is that
real love? If I have no expectations on you? You
see what I'm saying. So we all deal with bruh
(40:16):
coming from where we come from. I want to listen
to a little bit of academics and react to it.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Then we'll get out of here, you know.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
In closing, and I'm sure we'll have many more videos
on this, But in closing, I think that the drill
music does not represent hip hop as a whole.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
I want to be clear about that. The drill side
of things does have.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
A toxic obsession with reputation, and so that toxic masculinity
lends itself to men proving themselves to men and not
being able to jump over the hurdles of life in
a way that they can forget. He'll forget and move on.
But it wasn't just you know again, like right now,
(41:08):
little Dirk just got arrested. But I'm guaranteeing you this.
The blogs are gonna post the people that love Dirk
and are saying, please man, Dirk. Free Dirk, but they're
also gonna post the people that's dissing Dirk.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
They're gonna eat either way. I see y'all next time.
Let's get it.
Host
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