TaxStone SNAPS After 35 Years: GOES CRAZY on Troy AVE (2025), EXPOSES Nore, Maino Chain Drama + More

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
He would say stuff like an enemy of my enemy
is my friend. And your scenario with Troy V especially
at that time, was totally different than your scenario with
math Hoffer.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
That was pretty much some internet.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Ship that that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
That's what you want to hold me. You want to
earn me as an enemy. That's kind of fucked up.
I think you should just continue your career and take
me off that list.

Speaker 4 (00:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (00:32):
Nah, I don't want to be his enemy. You want
to be my enemy is just because that's what was
in the dude.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
But I think when he was interviewing him at that time,
I think that was more that was more so his
his his outlook on it is like, Yo, me and
this dude got problems. You and that dude got problems.
I'm gonna sit you there.

Speaker 6 (00:51):
But you know, like you're saying, I stuck that burds
of aether flock together, but they also get plucked together too,
and we love chicken over here, so it's like, no.

Speaker 5 (01:03):
Who cares about them types of dudes?

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Quick enough? We expect that I'm seeing a phoneo one
time on the internet, all the Rappa guy and like
seven dudes that I've had problems with and they was
all together, right, and a female was underneath the comment
and she said, only people who know tax with nobody's

(01:27):
picture is the funniest picture in the world because taxes violent,
every single one of them, right, And they trying to
phone their avengers. And I'm like, damn, look at me,
Professor X, sitting in a wheelchair with all these people
trying to get me.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yo, that's crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:52):
Now, So why would you make its be trying to
beat put them so much?

Speaker 3 (01:56):
If you want to make sure his legs again, I
got old, right, how about because when I was just
walking out there, y'all was critical.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
And so they prohibit you from being able to speak freely,
but he can speak.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
You know, he's working with the government. Well, you ever
deal with the government, you don't have a case, so
you would talk free. If I had a deal with
the government, I would have never I would have never
had to go to trial. So I was people and
I had people saying, yo, you think tax the moment
you think that you should have raced it out your

(02:35):
head because.

Speaker 7 (02:37):
He would be here and I wouldn't. Right the end
that deep, I wouldn't have to go to trial. Right
if I told that, right, it was only one person
that went.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
To trial out of this incident.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
And yeah, and you didn't use the self defense of
any of that.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
Like, well, there's no friends in New York.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
There's nothing like it.

Speaker 5 (03:02):
And that's why it's a horrible place.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
They have some shit called justifiable homicide, right, and the
reason and the way you and the way you fight
it all right, the law states that you have to
prove that.

Speaker 5 (03:15):
You try to retreat it.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
You have to prove that you try to call the police.
Anyone has been in any type of incident, you know
that these incidents the last seconds, right, So it's kind
of hard to retreat sometimes, and it's kind of hard
to get to your phone to call the police. So
this is why New York is such a dangerous place, right,

(03:40):
because it's like.

Speaker 5 (03:41):
You cannot protect yourself.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
This is why I'm gonna be falling on moving to
a red state as soon as I get out.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yeah, that's there's some interesting ship, man, That's some interesting ship.
Because for me, you know, when I look at the
documentaries and the think pieces that that goes on about
the night, so many people are saying that, Yo, that
these guys said, I'm about to get off or I'm
gonna do something to him. It's like, if that is
the case, you know what I'm saying, then when does

(04:09):
this turn into me just trying to make sure that
they don't they don't finish me.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
You know what I'm saying, listen, and no.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
State what I'm be in jails of the state man,
he admitted that him and the dude agreed to get
at me. He said he waked his I at him
and him want to attack me.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
That's to me when I heard him say that, because
he said that before, and I'm like, Okay, when does
that turn into them approaching this case with that behavior
and trying to harm somebody like and that turns into
self defense?

Speaker 2 (04:48):
But you're saying there's no law to protect that.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
There's no law like the instant we was going back
while these laws are racers. Right, every big se in
the country that had too many Democrats, they outlawed guns.
It was harder for you to get a gun with
Chicamo Angels New York. Now. The reason is because we

(05:13):
don't want these educated blacks walking around with these guns. Right,
We're gonna turn the law and a fellow in the
possession of a weapon. Federal government for the country. Now
new York State, you couldn't get a gun unless super
pool that you carried very large amounts of money in
your dedments. You needed so many community people are right

(05:33):
for you to get a gun license. The federal government
just changed that and they brought it back to the
regular gun laws because they know that that law was
racist the Supreme Court. So now in New York you
can actually go get a gun injan that you go
to department now and you could go get.

Speaker 5 (05:52):
A gun, right, But that's what they still did not
make the law to protect the.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
People who have the legal gun. For me, you have
a legal gun.

Speaker 5 (06:04):
The guys in the fat he tries to rob me,
you turn.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Around, shoot him. You locked up for murder because there's
no law to protect the person who has.

Speaker 5 (06:16):
The legal gun in New York fever, not just.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
Not just the they won't have the lord to protect
the nigga with the legal gun. Yeah, that's prosecuted perstruction
to say, well, he got a legal gun and he
said that this God did said bad.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
And that depends on who you are. Who does it
end up on.

Speaker 5 (06:40):
Exactly?

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Damn you know.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
And also when I hear when I hear him speak
about the case, you know, I know people give him
some kind of props, you know, I beat him up,
took his gun. But my thing is, if that was true,
if you asked me, you would have been shot.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
If if if you had a you go, you got
a lot of Yeah, Like if I beat you up
and take your gun and you right here in front
of me, you a shot man, you know what I shot? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah, So I didn't understand that part of it. I'm like, Yo,
something happened in between that, because it ain't no way
for you to say I beat him up and took
his gun, Like that's for me, it didn't make sense,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
So when I hear it only.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Takes one second taking a gun out of person's hand.

Speaker 5 (07:27):
For you to be able to pull the trigger.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Right, Yeah, that's easy.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
That's you know, that's that's just.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
A part of a story that might end up in
the area, that might come out some day. Right, but
you know that's his story.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Right, right, you know, even wrapper right, Yeah, But I'm
saying it got to make sense too, Just like when
I look at the young and the stuff like, you know,
they they claiming certain stuff and I'm like, yeah, but
the math ain't math. And if you're asking me though,
some main't you know what I'm saying, like, I don't
think no niggas drove from three hours to do that
and got back on the road, like I don't know,

(08:04):
like that. That don't sound good to me, but maybe
it happened, you know, I don't know. But sometimes, like
you said, the rap community, they glorified that the ship
and so they stand on it. I don't really understand it.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Yeah, but you know, well, you know Volunter's currency. For
a lot of these niggas. When they see the video,
it's like, oh no, he was busting his gun and
that's the same way he does. But he didn't feel
out way once he realized that you I can go
to jail for doing it. And he's never been a jail.

(08:40):
So they look at me like I'm the wrong O.

Speaker 5 (08:42):
This dude been in dreuls for violence.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
This dude only being licensed as well, right, so you know,
and even being from New York, I'm telling the surest
guys don't have a record in New York.

Speaker 5 (08:56):
But for you to say she was in the streets.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
She was over yeah you yeah to me, this is
a police state.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
It's a police state every corner and you was doing
all this. You know, It's like you gotta be mom
love it.

Speaker 5 (09:17):
He says two different things.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
He says that I came in there and shot every
single person. The district attorney goes with this. He says
he beat the ship out me. They go with it.
My thing is.

Speaker 5 (09:39):
He didn't junk.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
It wasn't it no you beating shot out me. It
was it is beating this shout out me. And in
the midst of y'all beating the shoot out.

Speaker 5 (09:49):
Me, y'all lost right.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
I went home and then what's that landed? The next day?
They go do the come up with day day and
y'all said, Tom in the hospital, Now, how do you
spend Tom in the hospital? Is where everybody's lying at.
This is where he's doing trying to protect hisself and
audens because there was four DNA's on that dog, the

(10:17):
person who died him, me and two unknowns fom DNA
and two unknowns is only because these dudes haven't have feelings,
so they don't have to do that, all right, So
how do y'all come to the common ground. But I

(10:38):
am the only want to use this weapon, right because
it fits an areative they had to before the internet.
His friend guy, he was with him, so he didn't
shoot his friend. Hats had to shoot his friend. Oh yeah,
So this is what's going on, right. I'm not from

(11:01):
where we sit behind the court room and talk to
district ATMs. I'm not from where discuss stings with the police.
I've discussed it with my lawyer, and I allowed a
lawyer to fight because he's an officer of the court.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Right, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
You can't really dell, hey, kid, this is this dude
put out a letter and said tax snitched on me.
When I see everybody's hitting me on a computer on
the FEDS. Yo, bro, niggas saying Troy put paperwork out
on you. I said, how the fuck did any purple
work out on me? In the case ain't even stopped, right,

(11:43):
I wasn't even in Danty yet, right, so how would
it be paperwork?

Speaker 5 (11:47):
Although that is a gun charge right now?

Speaker 3 (11:51):
So my lawyer put a bell assessment letter in and
he said it's two parties involved in his crime, rosan
cons which is Troy ad Garel Cambo with his taxed doe,
and he basically said, this guy is on camera shooting
and he got caught with three guns. After why does

(12:14):
he get a bat? And my client got hold with
no guns and my client was never shooting on camera.
There's no evidence of him ever shooting. How does he
think up with no bat? But this guy ends up
with a better This guy then says I snitched on

(12:37):
him by saying he was shooting in the Knot club.

Speaker 5 (12:42):
Everybody sent you shooting in the night club. My nigga,
you're on camera.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Are you gonna go and court and say that's not you? Listen,
you understand, and then you have thirty thousand sheet like
I shot you right sro He just told on you,
No tell him is offering information and the criminal investigation

(13:07):
known information. You understand. So I remember one day I
got pulled over with my fun he had done on them.
He told me, I don't got no done on me.
I came up the storeroom with two Dutch Masters and
the police set me with the Dutch Masters and said.

Speaker 5 (13:23):
I know y'all got weed in the car.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
When they go to search for the weed, I see
it my man face that he might have something else
in the car, I said, bro lapping. He said, y'all
got the gripping there? I said, why the fuck would
you had the grip in the car knowing when he
was going.

Speaker 5 (13:42):
To this hot ass store.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
You better let them know that that shit is yours,
because I turned myself in, brought a gun charge in
six days, right, good going to prison. So the police
found a gun and they go to him and they
say he was the driver. They say, yo, who's gun

(14:06):
is this? He said his mind, He said who's gun?
He said his mom. Then the dude comes to the
back of the car. He says, mister Campbell, who's gun
is this? I said, he just told you who gunn
it was? And this is my statement.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Yeah, this nigga.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
Locked up five many yeads and he tells people your
tax told on. So they shows people the statement of
me saying that the cops he already told you that
it was.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
So this is this is on the scene of the
crime exactly. And so you saying that that dude that
was with you right then is saying that.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
So my point is is that people get better for
these situations. Don't want to blame people for you just
told the police to gun with yours. And when he
asked me who gun it was, I said, he just
told you. I didn't even say the ship was yours.
I said, he just told.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Yeah, whatever he said, that's what.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
Exactly. So you know that's the issue. Just as I said,
God gives and they start wanting to make it be
something else.

Speaker 5 (15:31):
Information and on investigation.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Now I'll never have Yeah, what's your feeling like when
you see him like shooting videos on the court steps
and that, Well, what do you think about ship like that?

Speaker 5 (15:43):
I think that's his brand. Like I wasn't shocked.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
I was I was like I was actually waiting for
him to.

Speaker 5 (15:49):
Do something like that.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
You know, he has a very arrogant personality where he
feels like that whatever he does is righteous. He don't
live by anyone, so holds the prince of So this
is why he chucked on up speak on the Bible
and ship like that and tell people, Yo, this is
what it is.

Speaker 5 (16:08):
Boy says this that the you know what I mean, and.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
This is what he does. He'll tell you. See, you
know these niggas were just hating on me, you know
what I mean. You see, I got to push outside.
I got business I take care of my mother. Nobody's
asking you any of that shit. This is information he's offering.
He's like, really a psycho. I'll be crying when people

(16:35):
agree with the nigger because he just go on boy
to try to prevent you and try to tell you
something else, to try to make something else. Look, Valley,
I take care of my son. I love my son. Nigga,
you ain't love your son, and so you got shot.
The baby mother was sucking up showtime the whole time.

(16:55):
And she the one who told.

Speaker 5 (16:56):
Me he was about to festify on me.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
She said he can't. The family we could and said,
I'm cooperating in my investigation. I didn't do anything wrong
because she had custody of the kid, So I already
knew this dude was going that route. He's a selfish dude.
He's a dude who wanted everybody live to take every

(17:18):
charge he had. You can't even afford to Ruth's dude
that was locked up to April. This is what he said.
He said, I'm a self made millionaire a million times in.

Speaker 5 (17:36):
Interviews or rat records.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Yes, the guy, I'm a bested for Chilly. It's out
on battle for shooting at a girl in the club.
He's also on Take I Love Favor the Club. He
also beat up I can't remember to write his name

(17:59):
from Noisy Inviting because he gave New York City the
album The Worst are they of the yell of New
York And they beat him up with some materity. So
these niggas have a recular beating people up. Don't say
they don't like they hugely, And it's like, do you

(18:20):
try to switch the whole scenario or written on me?
I don't have no record of fighting in the club,
the record of beating nobody in the club. So when
I try to present this as evident in my case,
the judge says, you cannot land of the victim. I'm like, what.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
You can vis.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
Yeah, if he was when he died for shooting, for
shooting and a girl, you can't talk about it. And
then just like I said, so says it's his best friend.
He had seven thousand dollars better, So oh he had
as he had a seven thousand to get up, so probably.

Speaker 5 (19:04):
The seventy right, right.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
So the way we found out when he has his
battle is that me and Mano is in the studio
and the bench here, which cool a. Benga and Border
called to me and said, yo, I'm in a studio
right now with Maino gets on the fold and he
basically sound like he could. He's like, yo, this smid
de Troy reading me in here. You and the Snigka

(19:30):
just whipped them out. My bir Craig trying to fucker
this man, the grimy. So this nigga got sitting there
here with all that money. So I started busting out
laughing because I said, not the self made millionaire. The
way he would not bare that nigga out for that
seven rond is because you don't.

Speaker 5 (19:51):
So I'll tell Mano.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
I said, Yo, let's brow le nig out. So he
agreed to go home from and the engineer went back
and told Troy, and Troy Bell came out two days
later because he didn't want us say embarrass him by
balling in the out floor him.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
So if you see the first picture when Benga came
out of jail and hein't like our bony beads, just
look at Vegas face. You don't want to be there.
He's pissed off, he's mad, he's uncomfortable.

Speaker 5 (20:28):
We look Benga's sister.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
She tell you my sy he didn't want to be
with him no more. He don't want to work for
him because he left him in jail and then tried
to fuck his girl.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Damn.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
But this is the dude that sitting here talking about
all his loyalty and whatever the fuck he be talking
about taking care of my family and being a real
name that I got to push outside the Lamborghini.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Yeah, you know him when since you've been in that
him and may Know had to run in. What's your
relationship with Mayne?

Speaker 3 (21:03):
Now? You know main the big bro, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 5 (21:08):
And somebody made on him, she'd have been said something
because the.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
Narrative that he puts up is that it's a minister
society nigga. He was an old dog. He just got
mad because he didn't turn into the victim. So it's
just a situation that went wrong. The person to try
to do a world star moment ended up get a
ball star.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
Yeah, yeah, that's it. You know, may No hate has
chained though. I don't know if you've seen all of
that man that she had. It was it went left
for a little Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
I knew after that night that somebody picked the chaine
up up the blow. It wasn't main No, it wasn't
none of them. It was somebody else who picked it up.
And when they picked up they were sending the load
of round book them like yo with the show chain
it was fake. Yeah, so mayn't then say, yo, give

(22:09):
me the change. And he just held it because he
just knew his character. He's like, this dude is.

Speaker 5 (22:16):
Gonna come out his face one day.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
But the real reason they don't know that is because
you used to be playing for that all the time.
Like they didn't respect it that it was bo. They
started getting it on radio and man O Murder started
decline and slightly and they went and did a feature

(22:39):
away him. So them doing the feature with this nigga
leading him at that moment, he used that against her
small stuff that mean that. But it's like y'all gave
him degreen, like to act up because now people is
not from the city duty of fishing because y'all did

(23:02):
something with it. Right, Meanwhile, everybody know the nigga not
a fishing And what you mean about I'm not just
talking about when he characterized itself as I'm talking about everything.
He treats all his friends like ship. He don't got
no friends from that night now that was with is

(23:23):
his run?

Speaker 2 (23:24):
Damn?

Speaker 5 (23:25):
How does that work in such.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
A traumatic event where you are the hero is supposed
to be Why does everyone from that night stop fucking
with you after that?

Speaker 2 (23:36):
It's crazy because you did something.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
That is not U and you sit there with the
most furious face telling me lies and they know it.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
Yeah, he's in jail now. They won't put him where
you at it like he gonna go somewhere else, right.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
Why don't go to population He is one of the
most dangerous jails in the world. He would have got
shopped down everywhere he went. So he's in a jail.
He's in something called West Facility.

Speaker 5 (24:17):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
If you want to, if you think on lying anybody,
go on the internet. You put it in New York
and then put on in Collins his name, and they'll
come up he's a West Facility. And then when you
look up what West Facility is all right, because you'll
see that's a hospital. He's doing his bid at a hospital.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Damn, I don't like that.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
Niggas doing a peel call and our lit foot on
the bed man.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
You know, he got to sell an image, so he's
gonna tell these people whatever.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
Yeah, that's that's crazy man, that's some wild ship. So
I'm saying, after that night, did you you ain't feel
spooked out like they was coming or nothing? Did you
think them Nigga's gonna stand solid or what do you
think was gonna happen?

Speaker 5 (25:10):
Like?

Speaker 3 (25:12):
U never?

Speaker 5 (25:14):
Never did I think there would be a solemn moment.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
I knew what was gonna be there with a bunch
of faberatory the Stories of Lives.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
Yeah, I knew that a record because it started.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
It started to creep out a little bit, like it
was rumblings, you know, and it's like you always know
that the police is watching and ship and things, and
so I'm wondering where you paranoid or you know what
I'm saying, How.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Did you feel? Did you even think like you know?

Speaker 4 (25:45):
Nah?

Speaker 3 (25:45):
You know what I was like, I was never worried
about it, like I was gonna worried about the conception
that was put out because it was like I understand
the case and it's like, damn, this dude is lying
because that's why he doesn't law.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
Well, he running around saying it before you were charged.
He was going around saying it before you was charged.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Wayblefall and Wavelefall in charge. This happened in May.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
I got I got in, dieted.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
Putting shit and doing him twenty seems. And it happened
twenty sixteen May. He was in jail for maybe two
months and bailed out the moment he got balance, the
moment he decided to cooperate.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
Okay, I see you saying they gave him bill because
he decided to cooperate.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
That was part of his bell.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Okay, Wow, I never knew that. I know you was
moving around, but you move around anyway. The business was banging,
you know. You was on top of the world. Your
shit was booming everywhere. Every trap knew you still know,
you know, But like you said back then, you was
dropping every week.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
So you was on.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Top of niggas heads man, you know what I mean,
And so every trap was banging that, you know. Listening
to that text one conversations man for sure. But but nah,
that's that's deep shit though.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
Man. You know, the idea to think like some shit
happened last night.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
With some rap niggas, I just to be paranoid, man,
I know that I know, they ain't gonna handle it high.
You know, usually they wouldn't handle it the way I
would think we would handle it. You know, they got
I don't know, man, you know, running into a rap nigga.
It's just a It's an interesting thing. Do you think
that the that any of the internet ship that people say,

(27:43):
like that dude that work for No Jumper, Do you
pay any attention to that when he says uh shit
like you tried to bully him and things like that,
or is that the narrative you expect him to push?

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Don't see that, man, right, It's just I was right, right,
Bolli and you like brother music? Do we all agree
this is the whole city? Nobody was fucking with your
ship Hot ninety seven, who was pushing the bigger on
us a whole Comber week booking Bobby's Bird and Hot Nigger,

(28:20):
And they don't want to play it. So I'm flushing
these dudes to play I rank it, keep pushing his
Troy on the wave and listening to this ship. So
I did a PA the pole first started and I said, yo,
throwing out this saddle or Bobby shot Nigger of Hot
by eight percent of the vote, so yeah, bigger, and

(28:45):
then it went from there because mister C played at
once before. But then Evil starts talking about them after
he tried to diss them, saying they was doing feminine dances,
and then he realized that the whole New York was
fucking with that. So I was called to hater only
by telling them, you're pushing the song brought us that

(29:06):
we don't give a fuck about because y'all doing pay yola,
and that's it made y'all to play that.

Speaker 5 (29:13):
That's why being played.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
Didn't pay y'all. But the wrong is lit. So now
when they play it, they not putting their regular rotation.
They don't put hot and they get a regular rotation
until he gets his record there because all records PRAYO
by just paying the radio man these stream of services,
you understand.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Right, Yeah, the beness called for it, they get paid.

Speaker 5 (29:41):
Exactly.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
So that's how that happened. Like nobody was bullying that dude,
you know that looked like that. But everything I said
to this nigga was a response people saying this nigga
was going.

Speaker 5 (29:52):
To barbershops some my neighborhood money.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
You know, you know, any of y'all see tax down
by thirty thousand for y'all, you wouldn't say it on
the head. What's just go on the internet and be
like if this nigga don't turn every like excuse.

Speaker 5 (30:10):
And it was my response to that type of ship.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (30:14):
I never went on the internet and told people what
he was doing.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
So now it just looks like I was bothering him,
like I just woke up in and.

Speaker 5 (30:21):
Be talking about No.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
It was time that I who They had a text
and somebody said, yo, yo, the niggas when you left
the ball, your niggas was up here and told my
things brooking for you.

Speaker 5 (30:30):
I'm all, that's crazy, that's crazy to look for me.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
But I'm saying thirty thousand, Well he put it in
the street or trying to what is he trying to do?

Speaker 3 (30:40):
He bro, Nigga was Nigga was telling niggas.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
The bomb right off?

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Bro, what.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
This is? This is why? This is why when I
look at this dude, it's like, Yo, I can't take
this kid's sterious and low capacity yo, because oh, you
was doing everything you trying to make me seem right
is what you was doing.

Speaker 5 (31:02):
In decision, Bro?

Speaker 3 (31:06):
Why do you think me a whole.

Speaker 5 (31:07):
Dang was I didn't think me a whole thing.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
Is your manager the best friend? No, because I'm the sensible.
The old bank calls me, no tax man. Do you
pull a man so much influence de city man? So
people want to following us. He was brown against y'all.
It was all radio. He's moving and he don't want

(31:36):
to help the kids. They're trying to the city. So
I do He tells you need from the city. You
want to nobody else in the city. He wanted to
be the son. I wanted everybody else to just be
the player to tell. But the look was that nobody
wanted you to be the son.

Speaker 5 (31:55):
You the fans was not on.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
That he was forced upon through. Was like it was
really they hold a situation. And if you look up
the article with the dude worried about New York City
the album, that's what he's basically saying.

Speaker 5 (32:09):
He's like, Yo, this.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
Dude, I had to be paying his way through.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Right, And that's what he said of the album.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
Yeah, New York City the album, And he said and
it was from noisy I think it was a noisy joint,
he wrote.

Speaker 5 (32:29):
And that's what he said.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
It was like that dude got beat up at the
super Jam for saying that. So the thing is is
that you got an issue with anybody who says something
about you.

Speaker 5 (32:42):
Building's video on the podcast when you.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
Did a chance put the put up from Troy.

Speaker 5 (32:46):
Ad right set up? I Love mcconey are.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
Staying tweeted him and said, did you hear Troy as
the Tuesday? I Love McConney responded and said, oh, looking
at you. Troy responded something to this effect, we don't

(33:10):
see about the words, you fat bitch when you call
her the city. So he was mad that the decor
did not chair for his remix. So now when he
goes performing on stage, SLBs resument Bega walks up and

(33:30):
pull mconan off the stage and we all know it's
better because we know what he looked like and he
also has a BSP had would you lady?

Speaker 5 (33:42):
And then sh jumped.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
On him and beat bang up the videos on round.
But this is the dude. It's not convince everybody in
the world that was a hat who's going around trying
to shoot people?

Speaker 7 (33:59):
Yeah, no know the hater you hate anybody that has
a negative.

Speaker 5 (34:03):
Opinion about your music, You're willing to fuck them.

Speaker 4 (34:05):
Up for it.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
He presented a tweeted trial where a dude said, oh
my god, this dude is hard.

Speaker 5 (34:15):
Somebody responded to him and said, hey, who are you
talking about?

Speaker 3 (34:18):
He said Troy troy At sparted two miles later in
his head, just know when I see a straight bombing,
how think is this? How many niggas? I said, they
ain't like the hall Fast.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
Already a bunch of these little nobody niggas.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
But I'm not there. If you decided to fight every
one of them, you might be more skill than your boss.
After that ship. Right when I'm trying to explain to people,
people said, that's a hall fasses whack. There's no response,
there's no hey.

Speaker 5 (34:57):
It's something talking about him.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
Don't see you. We gotta fight, You're gonna shoot it out.
It's gonna be violence and the doom to deal with
to get to the tourney. Me. Wow, that's my issue.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Yeah, that's wild.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
Though I know I've seen him, I've seen him speak
with academics. What's your relationship with academics? What do you
think about like academics embracing Troy av in the way
he's embraced him and allowed him to say some of
the things that he's he said, I know he's a
grown man, but you can tell him, bro, certain things
like don't don't do that though, Bro, like out of

(35:36):
respect for me, don't do that, you know. But what
do you think about Academics and his embracement of Troy.

Speaker 5 (35:44):
That's around.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
The only thing that's that I feel like he shouldn't
be down is because you are me, you know, a
man to have an opinion on a platform, and you
have many rappers that don't like what you said on
your store. So I'm going to get the heart, tap

(36:12):
the nut and said, I'm going to attack lane and
then you have.

Speaker 5 (36:18):
To see out the situation. But that's my situation.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
There's no tax seat to the smack though, tating the
wrong tack in the music and laugh.

Speaker 5 (36:33):
Yeah, yeah, And that's what academics started.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
So academics started to go outside and get seen by
these people or get you the best of look.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
Yeah, but academics also puts a little bit more file
on the flame. Though he puts a little more sauce
on it too. Sometimes he can get personal, get on
their liquor go down these rabbit holes like we were
speaking about earlier in your case, not only does he
have an opinion, but then the speculation in front of
twenty thousand people, you know, the speculation that may get

(37:08):
a median views or whatever. And so it's reach and
responsibility we always got to consider, you know what I'm saying,
And he sometimes, in my opinion, gets into a great
area where it's no longer about the business, it's no
longer about the music, it's no longer about the critique.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
It's starting to become hurtful and personal.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
In some of these different scenarios, like with Ericobadu, you
knowing other things like that, Sometimes it can get personal.
But you know, I don't know, man, I don't. I
wouldn't compare him to you. I understand what you're saying.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
No, what I say when I say me, I just
mean you an opinion of a person, right, and people
that don't like opinions, then what I'm in a different.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
Ways right right, right right, And that's true because he
doesn't how many rappers I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
Or when him up?

Speaker 1 (38:00):
But right, but but but he's a house mouse though
you know what I'm saying, He's not gonna come out,
you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, he's not gonna
come out, So for him, that's what he gotta deal

(38:22):
with whenever he you know, if.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
He has to come out at some point.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
But like you said, people are gonna look at him
a certain way for things that he said, and he
got aware.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
That, you know.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
But like I said, the reason I'm saying my bad,
the reason I'm saying I wouldn't I wouldn't compare him
to you, is it is because you were outside, you
were accessible, you know what I'm saying. That's that authenticity
to go with the voice. It's like yo, home talking
like that.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
But he ain't.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
Starless, like he ain't tripping or running or you know,
he just doing his thing, you know what I mean.
But sometimes these dudes will say that they kind of
stuff and be out of touch with reality, like how
it's affecting the case like yours. It's like they can
play dumb, like they don't understand. I don't know what's wrong,
what I do, what happened, you know what I'm saying.
It's like, bro, you know, you ain't supposed to be

(39:15):
aligned with certain things. You know what I'm saying. It's
just how we go, you know. And I think that
led to you and.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Norick, because what's your is you and Norri cool?

Speaker 1 (39:25):
I see some people putting out some some shit you
might have spoken about on spaces about Nori.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
What's your relationship with Norri?

Speaker 3 (39:36):
No reason? Are like, you know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (39:39):
Like I don't, I don't hate to do to nothing.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
Yeah, like I still you know what I mean, I
love for nor Man like I feel like Orrid is
bursty shit and interviewed the nigga for content and then
understand that it could affect me, right, you know what
I mean? And because I know nor I know even
thirsty for content. And the way I zipped it up
was that Joe Button was cooking at the time and

(40:01):
drink Chips probably didn't have a good episode in a minute,
and he hated and splash, so he did that because
the last the last thing I was I remember him
telling me Troy an.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Blue mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
So when they get in.

Speaker 5 (40:18):
When it's saying about.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
In your relationship at that time, was your relationship was
good at that time?

Speaker 3 (40:28):
Right?

Speaker 5 (40:29):
That's my Yeah, they're like, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (40:35):
You know, yeah, you was early over there. I seen
the drink Temps T shirts. You was rocking and ship.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
I'm gonna do differ.

Speaker 5 (40:44):
I'm gonna do from drink. I'm gonna drink chips.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
When the first is a CBS in New York, they
don't make drink chips when it's in Miavey, Yo. The
figure out, So I'm offer it, you know what I mean,
I'm gonna I explained to him that the podcast is
just oldio and you could get a different video that floor.

(41:11):
This is how he did.

Speaker 5 (41:13):
He ends up and joint, but the video or rainbow, right,
you know.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
What I mean. So like when I easily just talked
about they didn't even trucking business schools and this is
this is bunching in the circumstances.

Speaker 5 (41:30):
It's not even because you had the knowledge.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
Right, yes, so that was one of my biggest grips.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
But you know it was you don't really having an
issue of combat jet and you didn't have an issue
of combat So that's why when you only I don't
really talk about it, but it's your button that gets
me tight because you're trying to get a job. You
was over here trying to get a job, like most
people don't know. I was not all loud speaking that

(42:00):
work longer than four months. The fourth book. We realized
he was like, Yo, people are calling the studio thright,
them people, they're saying they're gonna blow the studio up. Listen,
We'll still help you, but we don't still faithful you
on the network.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
So I was, yeah, it just was helping me.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
They still help me get ads. I found ads on myself.
I'm doing my live shows all this ship. But I
was the whole loud speaker.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
What I'm saying who the people was calling the office
of their business man with that ship about what?

Speaker 3 (42:41):
Yeah over the studio talking about, Yo, we're gonna come
shoot the studio up.

Speaker 5 (42:47):
You're gonna blow it out, right, So I understood and.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
I was like, all cool, right, but they still helped
you out though. Do you still got out a video
from the text seasons? Yeah, that's dope. That's dope.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
Yeah, I stole on the video that those right now
separate meh.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
That that's that classic. That's gonna be dope for sure?
Would you would you squash it with Norri? Is that
something he can do if you see this, is that
something he can do to to make that right? It's
you facing thirty five years man, So.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
Like I ain't holding on the ship for my whole
life and a long as you hold on the ship yet,
So like, I ain't holding on that.

Speaker 5 (43:38):
Norman ship for the rest of my life. I told
niggas fight well right.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
After, but we're gonna have to fight, right, Yeah, at
least owe you that.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
Yeah he owe me the thing.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
Yeah, yeah, he owe you that.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
But yeah, man, that's that's some dope ship. What's have
you spoke with Casanova? What is that's an over catching
Ova situation that you're going.

Speaker 3 (44:04):
Say, don't get right now then tat it up?

Speaker 2 (44:08):
Mm hm, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
It's a throwing effect November. That song really helped him,
So give him a time with dust so he should
be come home.

Speaker 4 (44:20):
Right.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
That'll be cool man, that nigga getting he done got
big too. You in there working out what you got
going in there?

Speaker 3 (44:27):
I ain't working out right now. I took off like
two months. I've been working on these three books that
I'm reading.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
So what you're gonna name? You got names for the books?

Speaker 3 (44:38):
No like that, But I'm definitely working on for and
I'm trying to have out in a few months.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
That's dope.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
What's your take on No Jumper and his response to
you criticizing him about the the interview of Pop smokes
one pops most murderers.

Speaker 5 (45:04):
Being faceless, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (45:06):
The game. That dude wasn't a part of hip hop,
so I'm like he should have been an interviewed. But
if you if your roman is not about hip hop
and it's more about this is pointing the black community
as I thought it was. Now that's what I think
it is, because he had nothing to do with hippop

(45:28):
or he did with some dumb ship that took away
somebody from hip hop. So I don't think that that
was right, you know what I mean? Because at the
same day, I didn't think that it was only a
hunt up there and you got get second tapes. It's
people that are alive to love you still gotta he
got a girl.

Speaker 5 (45:48):
Up the kids.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
Don't meagine the kids have this guy said that for
my dad. I don't even care about who get turned
and that's my thing. So when I hadn't be said that,
he said, what's the difference between.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
This, Yeah, that's what he says.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
When you called that interview me because it was about
my podcast. It was about me having a better podcast
than you. When you did my part. When I did
your podcast, you said, I'm here with the niggas the
best pass in the world.

Speaker 5 (46:25):
Right, that's why you interviewed me.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
You will interview me because I shot and talk nobody.
But I think when you want something about something like that,
we ain't talk about.

Speaker 4 (46:36):
That, right.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
But what I think he's talking about is now like right,
so he he's saying, like, what's the difference between platform
and you now or or Terrence gangster williams now people?

Speaker 3 (46:50):
The difference is this Thaner's not in whippop? Who the bangle? Right?
Who is that? This is a dude that y'all mad famed.
You understand, this is a dude nigga. His friend uses
his death to exploiting boost his career. This ship wasn't genuine,

(47:16):
This ship was done. I said, it's genuine ship.

Speaker 5 (47:19):
So you don't want to do praying.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
Look up right now. His family had to say about
Troy had yeah, pray. They know he wasn't fucking will
But he gets on every other platform to say, yo,
my best friend, and everybody goes with and says.

Speaker 5 (47:40):
What would you do with your friend?

Speaker 3 (47:42):
And yeah, it's not even true.

Speaker 5 (47:49):
Yeah, so you know that's the dead.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
Yeah he does.

Speaker 5 (47:55):
He didn't have no history or nothing to do with
a part, That's what I'm.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
Saying, right, But yeah, yeah, yeah he had.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
He definitely had that to say on some of the
platforms like yo, what's the difference? So you know, we
wonder what he was because I'm sure he he bird
man brother, your.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
Old man's brother. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (48:29):
Yeah, that's that's that's what you want to do.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
Every Yeah, let's talk about tim against Williams, because because
I may ask him what, I may get him on
and ask him about some of these rat and ships.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
So tell me, tell me what he said, what happened,
what happened with him? Who he read on? Because I
don't know what's going on with him. I ain't even
never looked at now ship.

Speaker 8 (48:57):
He told from Brooklyn, the US stop, we just do
this from from New Orleans. How did you get to
tell on this person? Because this person.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
Has cropped the prom said, and he goes to the court.

Speaker 5 (49:12):
That must be young gonna say, I'll know about a murder.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
And that's how it happened to get a tom cut.

Speaker 4 (49:17):
What this happened.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
He didn't get the time cut, but the gulls still
got thirty or forty to life because he didn't get
the tom cut because dance just different circuits. So his circuit,
well like, yeah, we don't hear about that conviction. We
need a conviction from our circuit. So you gotta tell
on somebody from New Orleans or traster the ship what

(49:46):
That's what he was doing.

Speaker 5 (49:46):
He was showing on people.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
Cases in jail. He wanted to fence. Know, he's a wreck.
If you know anybody from the fence, just be like
you ever heard against her? They don't got a rat.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
Yeah, I got a cousin in the face.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
I'm ask didn't I don't need and be thinking to
ask about these YouTube guys.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
Man. But that's that's crazy to think that the system is. Yeah,
definitely you popular.

Speaker 3 (50:11):
We all know about it.

Speaker 5 (50:12):
We know what you're doing, right, Sit about me.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
And you gonna know right. So you can't hide that ship.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
So he was getting cases from being in there, being
the old nigga in jail and jumping on niggas cases.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
That's what he was doing.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
All across.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
But you know they interview our kind of motherfuckers around here. Now, man,
this ship getting kind.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
Of blad interviews everybody. This is what I never bring
up ship because he's been doing it, and he's been
doing that. It will interview anyone and he gets good
content out of them. And just like I said, he
knows how to play those content because it'll.

Speaker 5 (50:56):
Ask somebody forty people.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
That's about getting that jav Beyonce, Now Beyonce, he got
the awe you said something about Beyonce. Something happened with
d MX. He got interviewing when you said something about right.
And that's how I think. It's a great way about
it because we get his own work.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
Because he interviews people people, right, and that's what that. Yeah,
I like, I like.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
I took a little bit of that as far as
you know, making it like encyclopedia or making your catalog important.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
You know, I got a mean catalog. You got a
mean catalog.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
That's some mean catalogs around here when we talk about podcasting,
and Bled definitely got one. So I've been thinking about
interviewing gangster Williams. You don't think I should interview that nigga?

Speaker 2 (51:51):
Listen, that's to you what I'm saying. I'm saying though,
you got a name though, because I asked b G.
About I'm like, what what?

Speaker 4 (52:03):
Hold on?

Speaker 3 (52:03):
I got his wife right here in my brin because
that's what made me contacted when I see the dude
came on through jail.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
Yeah, hold on, because there's several people involved in this.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
He probably telling the rights he tried to, which is
a rapper from Brooklyn and got seventeen life sentences in
the carriage.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
How you get all up in Brooklyn business, That's what.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
I'm trying to tell you because looking at the transit spot.

Speaker 5 (52:33):
So sometimes if you get in trouble in another jail,
you go through Brooklyn.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
So now you sit there to sell. When a nigga
want to tell you about all us a laborate telling
stories and he hears something about a body, he like, oh,
should I get out of that? So now you talking
about word?

Speaker 5 (52:51):
And then I hit the nigga and nigga be like, yeah,
that was You're mad on yo.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
He wanted to find off the specific stab his tomb dawn.
See what people don't understand about the federal system, right,
and y'all gonna probably farmed out we certain individual and
start coming home in the next Hero two that y'all
know that's very popular.

Speaker 9 (53:12):
I won't say no, man's I'll allow you to see
it y'all self. It's something called the run thirty five
and the rule thirty five is something that allows you
to tell that you are convicted.

Speaker 3 (53:25):
So now in the room thirty five, I call a
pretty girl with in my life and she goes up
to the night club that night and go get ten niggas,
I numbers. What are your street dudes? He ends up
in ten cribs within two weeks ago, and on in
coup with these movies. He finds out he sells dope,

(53:46):
he's a man, he's a drug den or whatever. Now
she called me back and say, babe, I can spat
up to say got bob, but you done in the crib,
I say, hold on, let me call my room thirty
five attorneys. Yo, I know a dude in the Bronx
that got five bricks. This is an address, this is
Instagram page. He hits back. They say, all right, as

(54:11):
beyond wancey, No, they locked that bigga up. This here
has no idea that you had something him getting arrested.
He goes he copped out. You have thirty five years
and now you're thirty five turning in twenty six. So
you now you got to tell on some more people
to get your time. Keep my dog, So I'll get

(54:34):
it to y'all like this. If you know anybody you're
sentenced to a certain amount of time.

Speaker 5 (54:38):
In effects right right, just gonna look them up. They
see if their time changed.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
Yeah, none of my dolls time changed, either want or
none of my dollar time change.

Speaker 3 (54:58):
It's some real. It's some real off the dudes they
about to come out of jail got out. But it
ain't gonna be true.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
What they gotta be y'all.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
Thirty five, Yeah, but people know about their rule thirty four. Well,
some people know about their rule thirty five. I didn't
know it was a rule thirty five attorney though.

Speaker 3 (55:19):
Yeah, yeah, well I didn't know. I don't. I ain't
one of them ships. But I just did the research
I've seen. It was like thirty five attorneys.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
That's crazy, bro, that's crazy, Like that's wow.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
But yeah, but now to be going in there and
getting them cases though, and jamming niggas up, so they
taking six years off here, four years off here. If
you are there, ain't number five hundred pounds a week
or yeah, it ain't numb, but a year off.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
You know they doing ship like that exactly. Nah, Bro,
that's wow.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
That's why this content world is crazy because you're documenting culture,
you know. But then it's like one dude, the moors
kick in because for me, like I got reached out
to about six nine a couple of times, I swatted
that down. Literally just the other day when I was
interviewing a nigga, a publicist reached out to me about
six nine. I'm like, man, I'm not interviewing those six now,

(56:13):
you know what I mean? So you know, I just
you know what I mean, I be standing on that,
and then these other dudes gonna go do gonna do
the interview. It's like it's a weird territory around me,
and you dig it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
People like yo, I got to interview anybody like Yo,
that nigga eat he just did an interview with the
ball rack. Tell people after your principles as the principles
and that's not your principles and that's not your principals. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
But if yeah, because I've been told on see I've
been told on me, not my cousin, my friend, my brother,
me loom so. And it's like but I mean content world.
So it's like I don't know whether to switch it
off if I'm doing the right thing. Ain't like and
I'm over here by myself, fresh out the street, so

(57:03):
I don't know. You know what I'm saying. It's like
it's a dance ship got to do. Man, You're looking
at lad and we're looking at his catalog and saying, man,
he killing it, He killing it man, you know, And
it's like that's.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
Great because clad don't have to say restrictions. We got
on us of restrictions.

Speaker 10 (57:21):
So that ship of our money, right because if we
didn't have the coach, we have everybody, we got certain
coat of people, we don't.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
A certain type of It's like right now you have
you can't buy it, right bro?

Speaker 4 (57:44):
You know?

Speaker 2 (57:47):
Right?

Speaker 4 (57:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (57:49):
And you know what when it when it comes to
tearing against the Williams, I really was gonna get the
boy on because I don't really believe half of this ship.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (57:59):
I'm talking about I'm talking.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
About I'm talking about when they say he got so
many buds, I don't get man, Listen, I got a home.
I know, listen, I know he wanted those guys like
I know this because I'm playing in New Orleans. I
know what's going on, right, So I know he one
of those guys you know and now and he just
tell these stories. But I think these bloggers have got
the number too high.

Speaker 4 (58:23):
Man.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
Man, they got him at forty and I'm saying, man, listen,
you know this is the thing, all right.

Speaker 3 (58:32):
It's just it's just like.

Speaker 5 (58:35):
Ow, Man, I not explain he's at the dance entertainment.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
Yeah, That's what I'm trying to figure out though. But
if it's entertainment, then I don't got no being this
bringing my street morals to it. If it's entertainment, you
see what I'm saying. It's like, Loan, what is you
bringing your street morals over here? Because you you're gonna
be the only nigga playing that street game. And you

(59:07):
you know what I'm saying. It's like breakfast club interview everybody,
Vlad interview Nobody like these people interview everybody.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
People know what I stand for.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
I done been told on I've been a general in
the street all my life, and I've been out the
street and ain't nobody saying nothing there, ain't nobody from
my city saying nothing, so people got to know how
loud that is. Right, So for me, I people know
what's up with me, right, So I don't think I'm
wrestling with that, but I my morals deep down is
like loan, like Bro, you can't just do that, and

(59:38):
it's like, I know. My conversation is like gonna be
more so like bro, you know that ain't cool?

Speaker 2 (59:43):
What you doing? Why would you do that? Like what
is that about?

Speaker 4 (59:47):
Like?

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Why the fuck would you do some shit like that?
You know what I'm saying, Why would you? Why would
you do that? Homie?

Speaker 1 (59:55):
Like seriously, like I'm talking about for the streets, like
so we can identify you, you niggas, Why would you?

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
What is you thinking?

Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
You know what I'm saying? What is the fuck?

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
I don't know brou shit just sometimes I look at
it that way. Then others I look at it like na,
lor don't even don't even funk with it. But I
don't know you you know what I'm saying. You know,
I don't know, Bro, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
It's each I wouldn't talk to that niggace.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
It's fucked up because you win that system too.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
It's fucked up here you say thatsten my street caught
my street.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
My heart. That shit hurt my heart hearing you say that.
Knowing you and you in the system. You see what
I'm saying that shi body.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
That you going ahead, that's gonna have a good record
on that nigga. The chaouch was everything and everything Booty
saying about that nigga. Truth he was fucking on what
he was walking on.

Speaker 5 (01:01:01):
Boys, is just one of them dudes.

Speaker 3 (01:01:05):
Is everything goes like the DC nigga say that nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
Ain't God lee.

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
Many about. I was sitting there quiet and out of nowhere,
I'll see Booty going in and I say it, Thank God,
someumb body said something because I didn't want to be
the nigga I always have to say so.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
Man, Damn, I'm gonna ask my cousin free Teink too, man,
free you. Man, I'm gonna ask you about I know
you're gonna see this. I'm gonna ask you about this.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
But this is damn like this is bro whoa. It's
like it's like now because it's you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
You know, I don't respect a lot of these niggas,
bro Be because it's you and I know you in
the system and you reporting live first hand knowledge of
this ship.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
You know what I'm saying. That ship hit different, bro,
That ship hit different. That ship different.

Speaker 4 (01:02:05):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
I ain't gonna.

Speaker 4 (01:02:06):
Stop to count you in and ship.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
What they just did? Counter something? What they do?

Speaker 3 (01:02:25):
Oht you?

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
Oh yeah? Yeah yeah yeah yeah, I forgot. I was
fucking as but yeah, man, I was just in there.
I don't know if you know how these games are you?

Speaker 4 (01:02:38):
Do you?

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
You don't got any children? Do you attack?

Speaker 5 (01:02:41):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
Yeah, my son and there don't call of duty. So
I ran in there to see what he was doing.

Speaker 4 (01:02:46):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
They got cheat cheat chong on them. Man, I said, man,
that's some ship from back in the day. Boy, you know,
I don't know how they the kids don't even know
what it is because I.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
Badly know what it is. But the kids that you
know what it was. Yeah man. But so when what
you're doing business wise?

Speaker 3 (01:03:06):
Man?

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
You got two books you're working on? What else are
you working on? From behind them?

Speaker 5 (01:03:11):
I'm selling my catalog of my my videos, my podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
I'm working on.

Speaker 5 (01:03:19):
On P and B Roight album right now.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
So R P, P and B.

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:03:28):
So you know, we're just trying to make sure you
get you get you get a GUP project.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
He got a lot of music, probably like six hundred songs,
So I don't want to put too much features on it,
you know what I mean. But it's like the people
you deal with, they want like they want to put
this dude on and put that on it. That'll make
it sad. I think his fans want to hear from him,
you know what I mean. I don't want to make

(01:03:53):
no confirmation album.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
Right, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
I think what the thinking behind it is Mark in
it because you know, unfortunately he won't be able to
promote it, and so you utilize those other guys, socials
when it drops, and things of that nature. But if
you want to make some nostalgic I get it. I
think you know what happened to him was unfortunately too.

(01:04:19):
I was just out on the West Coast, Like it's
a different energy out there, man.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
Yeah, the West Coast and West Coast, the West Coast
probably should have as much police as New York City,
but it don't. Right, So I think I think I
ain't saying the West Coast nigga be specifically talking about
Los Angeles.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
Right right, That's exactly what we be telling about.

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
Yeah, because you know when the West coast nigga say,
that's what they talking about. They ain't even talking about
money from the Bay. They ain't talking about about it
from Seattle, nobody from Oregon, right, nobody from this or whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:05:00):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:05:01):
So that's really what it is.

Speaker 5 (01:05:03):
My biggest thing with Westcoat artists that I've seen is like,
what is the issue?

Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
When they get into an issue, they dragged their whole
coast into it, Kendred, It's like, what the coast we
having to do with the ship?

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
Yeah, I don't like that.

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
I was.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
I was talking on the podcast the other day about that.
I'm like, Yo, a bunch of niggas on stage, don't
hit like that for me. Like, I like that the
coach is celebrated. It's a beautiful thing, but like, bro,
I'm still looking at this like a one on one battle.
What all these niggas got to do with it?

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
You know what I mean? I don't know, But I
don't know. They dragged the coach in. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
I guess it's the heritage. Maybe they're they're prideful, but
it does it's visible, I'll say that much.

Speaker 5 (01:05:49):
Yeah, I don't know. I'm confused.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
Yeah, I don't know what they I don't know what
be going on. What's up with you? In what one hundred?

Speaker 4 (01:05:57):
Man?

Speaker 5 (01:05:59):
I just think he's a corny dude.

Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
I think he's a dude that's like infiltrated the culture
through fake gangster risms. He's not doing nothing that really
helped people. He's not doing nothing the community. It's negative
cloud everything when it's never when he when he talks,
it's never nothing. They got to do it good substance
or or good way. It always got to do it

(01:06:23):
or what y'all Doe got starting all these black people.
But woman down't take no money from me, you know
what I mean? When when colleague gentlemen went through, she
ain't got paid no money. But because you're a black
man or black woman, you gotta check it. How about
you check these balls?

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
Yeah, I don't believe in checking man.

Speaker 5 (01:06:48):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
The thing is is this, you know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (01:06:51):
You know, like you know, if if if, if, if
Kendrick was.

Speaker 3 (01:06:57):
So good at LA, why would he need to have
for a video shoot or anything?

Speaker 4 (01:07:04):
Wow?

Speaker 5 (01:07:04):
Why would he need here gonna protected to the video shoot?
So you know it was like yo, you know, yeah,
that's sheriff.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
That's a good I.

Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
Said, you know, understand if the hood has to start
the control and the hood is is deep in the
sun safe and you don't need the police. That was
all gay games great because you had police that was
coming in our neighborhood.

Speaker 5 (01:07:32):
Way later, police that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
Was coming at kendnapping black men, saying they did a
problem they didn't do, and then your steel gave it.
So that's the point of the game is to protect
the neighborhood. Why would you ever need the sheriff in
your neighborhood.

Speaker 1 (01:07:48):
That is a great point because they should have protected man.
He probably gonna try to say they will protect me,
but knowing his participation.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
They didn't. They didn't you use the sheriff. Why was that?
That is a great point. That is a fucking great point.

Speaker 3 (01:08:04):
So that's one of my issues with that, Like I
don't understand when they try to break it down like that, like, oh,
you gotta do this, you gotta do that, like cook on.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
Yeah, and I've seen because we spoke about you and
Rao and Boosie and all of that, and he spoke
back to you, and I think you already addressed that
when he tried to say you was a you had
told or some ship about the paperwork.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
He was saying, but you already.

Speaker 5 (01:08:29):
It's a rat. Like it's easy to see the rat
because a rat wants to hang.

Speaker 4 (01:08:35):
With a rating.

Speaker 5 (01:08:40):
Rats are pass that's movie, they not pets.

Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
Is the only lady to a pet. He hangs a
Troy as he hangs a six nine. He's trying to
battle Chief d Out. It's evident what he is. You
don't have to need. You don't even need paperwork to
find out of whack. As a rat knows he's a racket.
He's just waiting for his paperwork to come out. Sid

(01:09:07):
It's common said it's like the girl.

Speaker 5 (01:09:11):
It's like the girl who hangs up the prostitutes. But
she want to convince you.

Speaker 3 (01:09:16):
She ain't any of this kind of ship. Do you
know what I'm saying?

Speaker 5 (01:09:25):
You know it's like, you know this is our conspiracies
happen right.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
You make it sense. I can't care you.

Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
Like you're gonna hang around who you're around.

Speaker 5 (01:09:38):
You won't say I'm not hanging with that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
To do man, nigga, be read ship. They say he
touched kids. I ain't fucking with that, nigga. But if
everybody said he touched kids, it's still be your friend.
You might touch kids too. See the reason I don't
go to the club with my gay friends because shop
them for two different things. Gay friends though we can't get,

(01:10:00):
but we can't really go to the parlem together. Right,
there's certain things we can't do together because we still different.
You are into the things these dudes into you followed,
you said to do what they want to do?

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
Right do you? When is your appeal to be heard?

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
It's just it's just when they answer it just fab
or whatever. So they just gotta got to get seen
by THEE. It's gonna be published because it's like it's
on video now to change so you'll see like the
three or four judges that they're making the decisions and ship.

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
Okay, yeah, we'll cover that ship. But you but like,
how long has it been filed? I'm saying, you ain't
got no timeline? The Lord you ain't telling you usually
this take about this amount of time or none of that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
Nah, you really don't know. The motherfuckers will take two years.

Speaker 4 (01:10:52):
Just ship.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
Yeah, I see what thug ship. A lot of people
saying thug trial is over. They said that ship really
get through out because it said this Supreme Court level
and all this mess that's been going on with it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:05):
Oh, it's so many constitutional arrange in his cases, ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
Right, Yeah, I believe he gonna You think he gonna
beat it or what you think they're gonna try to
give him pleaded time, sir, plead guilty.

Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
I think he gonna beat it. Yeah, it's too much, Orge,
It's too much. It's too much errors.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
Yeah yeah, yeah, well man, you know, I hope they
hear your appealing and they get you. Give some of
the time back.

Speaker 4 (01:11:34):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
We get you back out here, man. You know what
I'm saying. The game missing you out here. You know,
we always lock in.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
Man. You know I got love for you and whatever
you need from me, let me know I'm there.

Speaker 5 (01:11:45):
Ma. Man, I appreciate you the love and real shit.

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
Man, you're doing your thing out there, doing it cheap,
wint to stay away from the niggas.

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
That's the whole fact.

Speaker 3 (01:11:54):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
I appreciate you. Bro, keep your head up, chest out
you know the vibration.

Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
Love loved

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
Aye Bro,

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