Terrance Gangsta Williams EXPOSES Big Meech, Kevin Gates ISLAM, & TRUTH on Birdman Indictment!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
If they said, you know for a fact he'll never

(00:01):
get in thathing.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Yeah, think about this. I just did twenty three and ten.
If you take the time. But I know you business man,
cause you got a lot going on. And get my
paperwork and you see cash more, you see so much stuff.
You'll say it. How birdy ain't get indicted? Me and
this man on the front talking about a body talking
about a gun. I got life because of that conversation.

(00:25):
Do you feel your evil? I used to be, I can.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Be what made you start?

Speaker 2 (00:31):
I'm a gangster, A part with a gangster. My home
is a gangster.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Have you been hearing about? Mystical in some of them charges?
Even catching me.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
It's a lot of dudes up. But I want to put
their business out there. But it's a lot of people
I know for a fact that got out.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
Like that on the road thirty five.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
I'm a product on my environment. I like to always
say the environments product.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
You had already gave them shit, but they hadn't started
the process.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah, they not know do the incorporate the driving about
five years?

Speaker 3 (00:54):
When did you actually give them the information? When did
you tell? And how nobody in the jail.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Don't sniff that.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Who vows for that? Who vous?

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Because I deal with the state.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
You confess to killing forty people of the Steak Club?

Speaker 1 (01:06):
What do you think about pop smoke?

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Adam twenty two has kind of used you as a
shield from our culture. No, no, listen how you feel about
the serial killer title.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
My fantasies have with a midget, I want to hit
being Migie. I always just want to be a separate
I just wanted to I'm bad. I always wanted to
just be a little gainst.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
I know you always putting shit out though, because your
name is moving around the internet.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
I know the content what they want.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
You know, you gotta get them sponsorships.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
You know what I'm saying, a lot of the big dogs,
the big wigs, y'all ain't letting us live people in.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Are you trying to tell me that your whole twenty
three years ain't now a nigga said nothing about a
board store?

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Do you believe in karma?

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Then? In that? Who was you with the Muslim?

Speaker 2 (01:51):
What was first religion or game? Politics or religion? You
can't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
A Muslim can't pray with Christians?

Speaker 2 (01:57):
You respecting everythly. They don't respect yours.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
If we just let's say a prayer the Muslim suppost
to keep his head up and don't get down.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
With Yeah, the son of the fed that was charged
with what you chold me because I I'm charged with that,
he said, I would want somebody to reach out to
my child. He said, they don't have you right, they
can't charge with this. I'm like, man, you and you
got life. I don't wanna hear that. Then you out this, Kelly,
you'll probably beat it. But he was helping me. I

(02:26):
didn't know. So with me being charged with this here
CC carriage twenty in the life, they gave him a
max on it because I got the leadership role.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
They gave this what I'm saying, and then they gave
everybody else like slightly, well.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Everybody else already here and plays got away with the
only one who could have been affected by it was
me hot than Blabber, because our names the only ones
in that paperwork for the murders and stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
So they can only enhance y'all.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Right, But but how that already had got sentence before Blahber.
So the judge said, oh he got away on him.
He hadn't got away, but blab. I got jammed up.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Have you been hearing about mystical and some of them
charges even kitchen them, some bad charges that man, do
the penitential?

Speaker 3 (03:10):
Do you get out with that freak all on your
leaving that penitential you want to freak all on the girlfriend?
And I want to get you. You know, did you
come out with that horny dog on you?

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yeah? I be wanting. I still be wanting shot pictures
and all that pussing over. Let me see goodman, Jack
call me on fake time.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I still with.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
The freaking stuff.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
That penitential making it turning.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
With social media with so many you know, so many
dudes in jail are dead, so so many women out
here and women belonging women wanting to get their freak on.
You got some women that'll be like they're all classing cool.
It take the right guy to bring that freak out on. Yeah,
at night before you know, they setting it out like
cutting up. You know what I'm saying, And that's I
got a half of that bro.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Yeah, I bet man, what did you do when you
got out? I'm saying, So I want to go back
to anybody in the jail. No, this thin in the
get out. He trying something. He trying something, y'all and
trying something. No nobody now the fist keep it that cool.
They keep it that COVID stead.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Only way person know if you tell the person. But
that's what I'm about to do about the buses. Move
you want to rock with me? You got guys that
be jumping on the case with one another. What you got?
You got dudes that lie like you gotta do, might
be going to tryal for a drug or whatever. Oh h,
y'all know him. Yeah, I had bought two three keys
from him back in this year, and he'll let you
come in accord and get on the stand on people.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
They would literally lie on him.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Let me move that, let me move this up since I.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
M hm he look oh man, man, bruh, it's bruh man.
It's a bunch of dudes bruh that wanna get out
of prison. Bruh. But they just some dudes don't have nothing.
They just always say it's here. It's three kind of people.

(05:16):
People that told people that that that that wanna tell
the people that wish they told people they wish they
had something to text. It's some dudes who wish they
had something to tell. You got some dudes that's in
jail during the life sentence and they got caught up
and then they didn't have nothing else, so you go.
They can't have no true but to be a soldier
ride it out. But you got some dudes, bruh, they

(05:38):
be that's that that wish they had something they could tell.
Or they got some dudes they wish they could help
somebody on the street that help 'em out to get
they sentence reduced.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
How can you help 'em out on the street though.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Get with any law enforcement agency. You have some people
that buy a few kilo put it in a in
a an abandoned house. I gotta know what's some drug?
I know it's some guns they have 'em gonna get
the guns on the street on drug all you got im?
Let them specist boys, do they gonna put some kilo
and let a man go to jail, get they dog
out and take care of the people family On the

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rule thirty five. You can help any law enforcement agency,
no matter who you help.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
Long at the rule thirty five. Motherfucker. Yeah, that's a
bad mob.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
They be searching for their Rule thirty five.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
That's right there. What he said, George Manning emotion well
said that I ain't even really I just took a
picture of what is one?

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Let me see the paper's this one? That's it? I
don't know, is it right there? See what the second line?

Speaker 3 (06:41):
Yeah, that's it. That's a bad man looking for that mom.
I ain't boys but but uh but uh yeah, so
you got the black white you see that that rule thirty.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Five, that's a bad boy.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
Like you say, you got I K one dudes are
till that's a bad boy too.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
But it's not batter than the rule.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
Na.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
That Rule thirty five was bad.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
But you can have life and then they'll knock it down.
You go home. You could be in jail right now
and you do something and they'll let you go on.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
There's some that's some fun. Shuh yeah, bruh.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
But that's how them dudes. A lot of people out
like that. It's a lot of dudes out but I
want to put their business out there. But it's a
lot of people I know for a fact that got.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
Out like that on the RUD thirty five.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah, it's a lot of people. I hang on doing
them because I'm I'm the bad guy and if they
not busted, they got away with it and let them
live their life. But it's a lot of people, and
it's some people that know that dudes did that and
they still rock with them. You know, they say, well,
he ain't telling me, that's my homie.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
What's the difference between the rule thirty five and a
five five one?

Speaker 2 (07:42):
YEA five K one is when you first get locked up,
you tell and they give you a cut that sentence
in or rule thirty five is you get sentenced and
then years later or down the line, you can come
back and cooperate the government and get your sentence reduced.
If you can help police local polie, you can have
the c I a help. They gotta write a letter

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to your prosecute saying, hey, he helped close this, or
he helped us get this arrest, so he helped us
with this, And then your prosecutor could look at it
all right and follow most of the court saying hey,
because of this, we want to reduce his sittings from
life to.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Thirty Did they did they have a did did you
ever see any other people?

Speaker 3 (08:19):
Or did they always keep you away from form like
you see another heat telling to what up, brother, you.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Got yeah, you see, let it have you in population
with him now.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
I'm talking about when you go high let them.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Oh no, no, no, you're gonna be one on one
with them. You gonna how do they get your way
from the inmates though? Well, first of all, when they
first want your information, they gonna put you on a
call out. So you're gonna be like, you gotta go
to medical, right, oh, medical, You go to medical. You're
gonna go on that bag and people think you you
go back there for X ray, go back or you
gonna we're gonna buck that left. You're gonna go in
and easy to be back there in that room back there.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
See.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
I used to bust a lot to do letter because
I used to study it at a certain time and
a certain doctor. I was like, boy, I know what
you did last So man, what was you talking about?
The age was here to see you. Man, don't play up, man,
knock it all. You're to call out there this day? Man? Yeah,
you right, dude, you get mad knowing you down bad? Yeah, Yo,
I just study that stuff. It's man.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
So he'll get your on medical, get your That's the
first time they get your information on.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
The car yeah, the gonna get it.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
They even see if you ain't even doing srive.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Okay, yeah, it's checked out. So if they feel like, okay, yeah,
your information was valuable, they ain't gonna put you on
a writ A writ is like you're going back to
court and.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Then they're grabb But how they get you from the inmates?
He ain't going the court wrong? What cause go?

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Well, the thing is that some people already have fake
People were saying, man, I want my kids about to
go back to court. H Some be like, man, yeah,
my appill came through man or some du This is
something I do. Famous line man on the one he
paid me, on the where I'm going man, on the
way I'm going there. Man, you people keep playing me
paid me? Yeah you know where you go?

Speaker 3 (09:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
So some of us just be sitting back and laughing,
like right, just look when you get back man, come
hoigh that man?

Speaker 3 (09:57):
You say they give you food and shit, yeah they
they They give you any other treatment, good treatments.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Like gonna put you in the best jails. Like I said,
you're gonna get your popeyes, you make done, whatever food.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
In jail, you get anything? Or is that just when
you're with them.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah, you get you got the gas, They give you
stuff to do.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
The guards know you work though, yes.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
A lot of them, you know, because they look at
the computer and see, if you gotta rule through, if
you gotta road five K's gonna be in your paper
on the computer.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
So how nobody in jail don't know when they's seen
your paperwork? Don't they add for paperwork in the fiends.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
I was told that let me tell you what I
saw in the pen attention. It's a dude that told
on his courterfeiting on their murder case. And then there
was this big crypt dude that they wanted him to
tell on because they were sellous, but he wouldn't tell
on him. The dude told on his court defending on
the murder case, wound up going to this big sandy
while the dudes that he could have jumped on his case.

(10:50):
Here crypt dude, but because he didn't tell on him,
he took him, brought him back there too, the K's
band and said, look this my homie. Man, he ain't right,
so put his name on my paperwork where he had
some clean paperwork.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
Man.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
They got all kind of.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Cut through stuff going in and they getting away with it.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yeah, because all they'll do this here she like, see
how clean your face is? How you name?

Speaker 3 (11:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (11:16):
So if you vouch for somebody, ain't nobody gonna check
behind you? Oh the yeah, I already check the homey out?
He good or lunar already take alright, an'ybody's over it right,
it's not even direspecting you.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
Right.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
So if you and this compound and you vouch, he said, yeah,
I alright, I checked the home of work already. You
gonna home, I gonna skate. And you got a lot
of Then you got some dudes that'll get get the
fake PSI get the fake paperwork.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
They got fake paperwork. How long was it be t
before this rule thirty five was in here? Before you
got out.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
It started in two thousand eighteen.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
And you just got out and win twenty twenty, twenty
twenty two, twenty two.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
I got out, yeah, twenty January twenty two.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
So in in eighteen, that's when you started doing what
meeting with them or what?

Speaker 3 (12:07):
No?

Speaker 2 (12:07):
No, I was already to me, I was filing, Hey,
what's up with my check? Het? Whatere my government? Check
at what y'all playing? What check my cut? But that
I called the check too, go check. Yeah, yeah, that's
that government check.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
So you saying that, So you saying that you had
already gave them shit but they hadn't on starting the process.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah, they'll drag you done not know, do that incorporate
they'll drag you about five years. Yeah, if you ain't
really got the lawyer, that's really on 'em and work
the deal or this is what happens too for federal right,
if you ain't really get it. If you like how
you going, how I went to the state, So your
prosecutor look at it like under the law. But you
can help any law for a truth. But because you

(12:47):
ain't help me, I'm not going to rush to fire
your paperwork for you. And you can't make 'em under
they got a loss that you can't compel the government.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
But you see how these stories from inside of the
system makes sense when you got the rule thirty five
saying you can help any law enforcement agency and saying
to yo, man, he was in jail, got on the
cage that way from southern sous and you know this
shit could be a thing. You know what I'm saying.
But they ain't producing no paperwork because that's what they
got people. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, but but but that's

(13:19):
that's that's crazy, bro.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
That is some wild shit.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
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Speaker 1 (14:42):
And when they came get you. How much time they
sperience with you in the time.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Two three hours of pions they cause they'll call it
that you're going to court and then they'll put you
back there and go and put you on.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Get you some food and shit you anything red lobster.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Steak it wherever you want on the age is gonna
bring it. I wanna do. One dude go to court,
him and his cour definding. He hear his cour definding
voice in that cooperating he cause he cooperated. But then
he go to come out of cold feeling like he
all took. Man, he's a ragiter. He like, man, Nah,
this fool don't know. I'm the one ordered his Chinese
rights for him. Well, he run your front like he

(15:20):
stand up to do. He got a lot to do.
It be pump faking like that. Yeah, a lot of that, man,
They they be pump faking good.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
A lot of that man Y's in fact, it's a
lot of that though I think what I was just
finna ask sure about uh, but yeah, let's get back
to that.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
So two thousand eighteen is when you started.

Speaker 4 (15:40):
This.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
How I got on him cause it was a while
and I'm like, man, what's that? And so I filled
him most to the court. I mostly called him most
to a inquiry like, cause you can't make the government
do nothing. So I folled him and say, hey, Yana,
what's going on. I was just trying to find out
what's up, cause I ain't. I waited till we get
a sentence.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Reductors, when did you actually give them the information?

Speaker 3 (16:00):
When did you tell?

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Like when what year was that?

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Two thousand eight or nine?

Speaker 1 (16:09):
You told early?

Speaker 3 (16:10):
Then?

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yeah, I they had to give him. I start giving
them nobody to start.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
Getting Oh that's right, you had a lot to Yeah,
the give.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
I had to give to build that stuff up. Then
give them give and give him. But like I said,
then damn two thousand and eighteens and swimming and then
they finally yeah, and how nobody in the jail don't
sniff that out?

Speaker 3 (16:29):
Who vous for that?

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Who vous? Because I deal with the state. So by
me dealing with the state, and the only way, the
only reason why BG and hotting The find out is
because Hot was in the state, so they got the paperwork.
Let me telling on want to hot But they said, oh,
he turning on the dead. Remember what they do that
he telling on the dead?

Speaker 1 (16:50):
How he get the paperwork cause it's public records.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Oh yeah, state public records wrap their look such such damn.
Then get that doctor sheep when he got it?

Speaker 1 (17:02):
So yeah, she ain't stunning that shit.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
No man, Oh what I mean? My bones? I got
a you know, I uh br I just wanna be free, bro,
I ain't trimming hor don't wanna hang with me, You
don't wanna kick it with me? Leave me alone and
leave you alone.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
What do you think about pop smoke Killer? I see
your name is came up by tax Stone Free tax
Stone and Adam twenty two. Adam twenty two has kind
of used you as a shield from our culture as
it pertains to interviewing Pop Smoke's murderer. Whenever he's asked
about it. You're the name that he throws up to say, Hey,

(17:39):
y'all didn't say nothing when I interview Terrence Gangster Williams.
But y'all are mad about me interviewing pop Smoke's Killer.
What's your take on on Pop Smoke's Killer?

Speaker 2 (17:51):
I saw it, but I didn't look into it.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
Blockstar, I think it's name man.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Yeah, I saw, I didn't look into it. Certain stuff.
I don't look into a cover or passed by Jill
doing cause my name dirty. I got my own problems,
so such stuff.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Probably you want to give me a few dollars to
keep my head above water.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
People, but they that's it's you ain't heard them comparing
you to No Tom.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
You know, because I don't be really locked in on
a lot of people.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
Yeah, every time we talking about mainstream culture, like when
they're facing pressure of like hey, why would you interview
a dude that killed pop Smoke? They're throwing you as
a shield.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Well, all up.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
Didn't nobody say when Vlad interview tearing against the Williams,
al o what Adam say? Don't nobody say nothing when
I interview terring against the Williams, he killed forty people.
This is what I'm saying that they they spitting this
forty people shit. And I wanted to ask you how
to how you feel about it? And also how does
your probation officer feel about it. How does your legal uh.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
Shit go when people are screaming forty bodies and things?

Speaker 2 (18:49):
But it's in the PaperWorks, I provision officer. They got
all this paperwork. They got to know who I am,
what's going on.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
But you didn't do these forty bodies.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
No, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
They get even you forty body.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
No, No, listen, either I was there some of them
I pulled the trigger or some of them I was
either I pulled up in a car.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
You couldn't tell me if you didn't anyway, because you
done made disagreement, So you couldn't say, man, I wasn't
involved in none of them. Shit. You couldn't say that
because you done made disagreement and they standing on your
word in that agreement. So even if I'm from the street,
so even if you wasn't involved with these forty you
cannot say I'm not involved with them because this part

(19:30):
of how you got out with your rude thirty five shits.
So you did know what I'm saying. That's why you
you bring it back to what Either I was there
for you know you got to keep it right there
because that's what this is. This don't reason why they
granted this shit, so it'd be dumb for you to
say anything to the contrary. So but but anyway, Yeah,

(19:51):
so they kind of use you as a shield, you know,
to say, well, I'm interviewing him. That's why I asked
you how you.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
Feel about the serial killer title? Does that get to
your men too? Do you think about this ship?

Speaker 4 (20:01):
Like?

Speaker 2 (20:02):
I tell you what, we tell what every thinking about?
My fantasy used to have sex with a midget. I
want to hit me a midget, Yeah you do?

Speaker 3 (20:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (20:11):
And I want to hit me a white bro, a blind,
a freaky white bro blind. Yeah, you know a girl blind? Here?

Speaker 3 (20:17):
Oh blonde?

Speaker 2 (20:19):
Yeah, I wanna hit me in one of them.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
That's easy.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
You got internet cloud, you ain't got take my time.
I got a little.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
They're probably whooping on you for their YouTube check.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yeah, I'm ready to give them something.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
You ready to give them something? You tricking bad facts?

Speaker 3 (20:33):
Being tricked.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
We ain't already tricked me already. It ain't tricking.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
If you got it, you got it too. How many
videos you gotta make a month?

Speaker 2 (20:42):
I don't know. I just make them, bro, don't what's.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
Your what like?

Speaker 1 (20:44):
What's your base pay?

Speaker 3 (20:45):
Like?

Speaker 1 (20:46):
What's your lowest month, eight grand something like I used.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
To try to stay at ten, but like I've been
getting lazy, I might do seven eight, I try to
stay at ten. Like, let me show you my thing
cause you intol YouTube.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Yeah, I'm in the YouTube world.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
I'm on there. I know all about that.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
So uh, I know you.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
Always putting shit out though, that's one thing about you.
You gonna put some content out.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
I got you, brocas this. I ain't got no other way.
I don't got no to help, so I gotta you
know what I'm saying. I'm not gonna be having my
hand out banging nobody. So uh. With that being said,
you know, I know the content what they want. I
know that for a fact, this is what they want. Yeah,
so I give them what they want. Oh, matter of fact,

(21:33):
I gotta drop. I got some video. I'm happy to
say that. That's what I'm at for the month right now.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
What I'm saying, that's good though, you know, and you
still got it's twenty fat happen all day, No to
the thirty I thought it go to the twenty first,
No the twenty thirur week get out with check.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
Oh it got fifteen from last month.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Yeah, so I still gotta yeable last.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
I'm I probably done May and all my shit and
our probably boy, I done probably clear six figures this month.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
You you know you you're in the whole different brand, That's.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
What I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
Because they because our hard done read up on a
couple of things. They they'll send me a deal for
I got a master Card sponsor. Then of course I
got prize pigs. You know, you gotta get them sponsorships.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Yeah, but you gotta you gotta, you got numbers. You
just gotta get a company attested to it. You know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Yeah, but you know a lot of the big dogs,
the big wigs y'all ain't letting the letting us little
people in.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
Now, you gotta learn how to get in.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
You gotta package, learn how to get it's already packaged.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
Ain't pass Listen.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
This is one of the best shows on YouTube.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying, package. I ain't talking
about quality. You talking about See they won't telling you.
Everybody make got chips for sale. But the three those
got there is in the red bag. But that's the packaging,
not the chip in the inside the packaging.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
And I'm gonna say this again, already package But I
don't know who wanna be open to give me a
deal to selling because like you just said, you got
a bunch of rappers with CD covers with me, but
ain't nobody getting a distribution there.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
But tell me, though, if it's packaged, what is it?
What's the name of the podcast or what's the name
of the.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
Show Help with Us podcast? Talk your talk?

Speaker 1 (23:12):
No, I'm talking about your partet is what is it?

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Help with us podcast? Talking with us? Like and Judge
man came run the up with a can running episode
to a man running up.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
See, I don't know that. That's what I'm talking about. Packaging,
not see that's that's money. That's you moving already. I'm
talking about packaging. These look little shit like this. You
gotta pay attention. What's going on? This is the package
in h You see what I'm saying. That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
I didn't know.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
I know terring gangster Williams ed platform he been on.
I ain't heard f with us. You dig what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying. Just the packaging the is know
who you is? Your name is moving around the internet.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
But we don't know your product or your pod or
what it is you do.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
We know you've been on BLAD. I do because I'm
in the niche know I'm niche down. You see what
I'm saying. But I'm talking about mainstream media, the big dogs.
They don't really know.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Okay, what is he doing is he's just doing interviews.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
They don't know you're really doing podcasts or you're doing
your own interviews and shit like that. You're making money, though,
so you can you can get somebody to fuck that shit.
You're making twelve thirteen in a month. You see what
I'm saying. It's easy for a month to want to that.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Yeah, so you do you think you a point in
the right direction? Or or because my name is there,
you don't want to help me.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Yeah, well I can point you in the right direction.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
You know what I'm saying. I point you to something.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
Man, I ain't got nothing nothing.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
This is content world, man, That's why I'm telling you.
This is content world. I don't want people to try
to hold me doll that street shit, you know what
I mean. I try to get away from that shit. Bro,
did you run into any rappers on your when you
was out there?

Speaker 2 (25:05):
Only one person I was on the compound. It was
a big beach.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
I was just like with Meat, good dude, bro humble,
he know who you are.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Yeah, he had wanted to meet me when he got
to the compound. So uh no, I'm good. I don't
want none you candy. So anyway, no, cause you just
had the whole package.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
I get you.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
I can't say.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
I can't tell you I got a whole another one
over there. I got enough for you. Yeah, I got enough.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
You know my fat Alright now, like I was saying,
for I dirupted by you. Now he's good dude, broh humble.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
When Meats comes to the compound, Meats made it clear.
Say listen, cause he came to one dude from there,
that man and Brow the army. They start getting BMF
tattooed with E and T on the left side of
the neck. Then go out to the recio after lunch,
work out and he'll buy whoever in the un He'll
bop all the wine if you cook your food, bop
all that and just sitting tell and tell war stories.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
I told you you're talking.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Now we are talking about the clubs and how you.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
Make it rain, but sometimes it gets to man and
my chain and you know, my homeboys. It gets to
that summertimes.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
Some people that'd be the young dummies though.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
But he was young and you I was older. He
was older when you man, Yeah, it was like when
you had the compound, you was what twenty one eighteen?
Most like my homies, most now, none of them. They
grew up in the feeds. Most the Feds. They grow
up in the feed you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
But I was young in season, so anybody knew about
my kids. Anybody could go talk. I didn't talk to
murders with nobody. So the people they're saying that told
me their stories, they wasn't seasoned like me.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
But did people tell you anything? And go again, I
ain't talking about that you said to anybody? Are you
trying to tell me that your whole twenty three years
ain't now a nigga said nothing about the war story?

Speaker 2 (26:57):
You ever be talking about studient not murders. That's something
that they wasn't convicted for. And another thing, I didn't
ever surround myself with a lot of dudes, cause I
know a lot of dudes like to lie. Like when
I first I locked up, we s I said to
be in a law library or lot me and one
more due from Florida, may be about twenty my homeworks
on a reck yard. When you come out the rec

(27:20):
yard to come out the law library, it's be like, ma'am,
why you gonna be out here hanging out with man wo,
I said, Bruh. We all in our early twenties, we
ain't do that much, and I like to be out
here telling the story every day. We gonna start lying
on one another and they gonna start believing you're lying facts.
Cause before I do that, bruh, if it's beat, I'm
out there for y'all, or that mean I gotta get
out of prison. So I'm filling.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
But let's get back to that. When you fire the
inquir everything you say, you can't make 'em do now
what they say, just.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Say you can't compare the government. However, I think it's
this one you said. However, y'all got to the eight
tea to respond, Oh, that's not good. This one he
reduce my sentence.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
That's the victim statement thing that that that yeah, so
is either one you ain't show me them. I don't
know what them man reduction in centing.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
You gotta flip on the back.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
Down with departure.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
But now listen, you could take a picture of that,
but I don't want you to post that.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
Okay, I won't post.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
It cause I don't that's that was really supposed to
be out. But I want you to have that for
your records or something that you could show your people.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
Right, I'll do that. I won't post it.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
But tell me though.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
So it's two eight to two eighteen.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
How did you maneuver around the jail because it's not out.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
How when you're filing inquiries and shit like that? Right?

Speaker 2 (29:12):
But the thing is this, when your name clean, when
people not really stuting what you're doing, because your name
clean ain't checking for you. If men you get into
it and all the men or debate or something, then
you get on my trail, then it become an issue.

(29:33):
Do you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Yeah, it becoming ain't Nobody won't checking for ten years.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
Because I was out the Whales, doesn't the radar and.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
You had will Muslim something, I've been Muslim, you're Muslim.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
I was a Muslim on the street was you. I
took your hog in nineteen ninety five, went to my state.
Ninety six, I come home and I joined the nation.
Then from ninety six to I was. Then I went
to the FED. I was the nation from from from
from ninety six on the street to five down. Took
your hot again and became sunny muscling. But I was already,

(30:06):
you know, moving and groovy. So what But you wasn't
paranoid or none no, Cause, like I said, I'm in
the prison, out the way. When you out the way,
you ain't like this is this what happened to God.
I'm gonna fix it. This is what happened to God. Bro,
When when when you when? When when you know to
get in people business? When you know and keep up

(30:29):
mess that when he gonna get on you. So now
you're gonna have people gonna be digging up dirt on
you looking for you. But I'm the peacemaker in the prison.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
See, you ain't had no cutting, stab and fights.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
You weren't none of that. Yeah I stabbed to do
but that was every loan.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
That's something that happened in twelve.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
Yeah I stabbed somebody. Yes, I'm like, man, look what's
going on? What do owe you? That's that's it's in
the bus. Let's chill out. That's so. And then I
had a now resident drug classsually teach a drug class.
And then I had a class called I Can go
home a better man. So even though I had life centisance,
I was helping people. I was preparing guys to go
home to society, getting them ready with the little tools

(31:08):
I had.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
So when you got out, it was in jail, said man,
that what just happened? That?

Speaker 2 (31:13):
When jail? Yeah, let me tell you what's crazy? Bro.
I had got this paperwork. I waited till the holiday
was over. With January third, I'd go to R and
D Records. It's a true story, mister Harris. Mister Harry
was so rown skin du like your color. All he

(31:35):
work out? Yeah, some player type guy with a little
tight clothor muscle, be budget come out here at the glasses,
say t bow legger too tarn. When me getting out
this year, I said, now I suppot to be home.
Now said nah, you supposed be getting out this year?
And nah, man, I suppoped be home. Now, tell how
the truly I said, Well, anyway, for all the men

(31:57):
say even if I was supposed to get out this year,
i'm'a still get all on half of the house armor
going home anyway. But I'm like, nah, I supposa get
me released. After lunch, I go get this paperwork. I
go up to the records to R and D til

(32:17):
Harry's come out. I said, Man, I supposa be home?
He said, Man, I contact Grand Prairie that's in Texas.
They say, I'm calculating your time, right, You don't pusa
get out to all? I said, nah, Man, I go
out my pocket and pull out my What I been doing?
My mat say, man, and you're mad gonna be diff
I say, bruh, Matt. The same home around the United States.
Where are you talking about? I said, Miss Harry, just
take this paper here Fax the Grand Prairie and let

(32:40):
them let's work it out. Get read. He went there,
he did it, brought it back to me kind of fast.
I said, Man, I ain't fasted that faster than people.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
We leave.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
We go to my cell. Told it to my Partny
from Pencil. Cold Baby said, mame'm I gonna get a
shot cause at the end of the day I normally
be going home. I don't know when, but I I
know I'm gonna I got to judge the granted.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
That it's already granted at this time.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Yeah, but what happens is if you ain't got no attorney,
the course take their turn. They time sending your paperwork
to the prison. So by me having an attorney, I
got the paperwork ahead of time. Man man, mail me
a copy of that cause it's June third. I get
out cause if I was wait for the course, they
might have been a little later than that. Right. I

(33:26):
jumped the shower. I'm just letting the hot water soothing
right now, Tarn William is my counselors.

Speaker 5 (33:32):
Man, what.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
But come on here, you ain't getting out what I
ain't baiting? Not jump out that shower? What's get your stove? Broh,
there's no lie. The whole dorm erupted, Yeah, clapping in there,
happy for me. The whole dorm laten. O.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
They didn't know, though some of them knew. They thought
you beat it.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
He got it rule thirty five, y'all.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
I mean he got it.

Speaker 6 (33:55):
The first step, eg, y'all, the first step, God, Devin,
another one, go yes, Lord.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
They didn't know, boy, I don't know when and they
ain't gave it.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Oh no, listen, listen, some of them knew because I
had you know, how you can tell somebody, I would
tell you, you know, man, between me and you, that
between me and you gonna be between me and you,
me and you and me and you.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
So it started circulating the many boy working on three
or five boy getting out that boy told.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
Cause I was gonna ask you, do you think they
would have killed you had you sold up with that pa?

Speaker 2 (34:26):
The prison I was in? No, No, not the prison
I was in. Now, if I was in the p
I went in the penitentiary. Then if I was in penitentiary,
that's a fact.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
They dinna knocked you down.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
Yeah, Oh weoulda knocked each other down. I don't have to.
But I've been smart.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
So white, what make your what make your spot different?

Speaker 3 (34:45):
It was?

Speaker 2 (34:45):
I was there a medium?

Speaker 1 (34:46):
Oh okay, which means what to people who don't.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Know certain mediums we rocking and rolling, but certain mean
you got some soft mediums. And I happen to be
in a soft medium at this time.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
Arrange that.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Yeah, I've been calculating and being plotting and playing this stuff.
I started playing this stuff in two third five, right
after Katrina right doing right right right after I started
plotting and planning this, it's alreadys her head. I already
hadn't learned. I never did this when I first hit
the system. Excuse me. I never checked nobody's paperwork. I

(35:18):
never worried about who was hot, who told. I never
ran nobody off of compound cause I always tell people
never s never say never. You'll never know when your
turn coming. You turn you to see what you gonna do.
So I never did that. So now with me, I'm
just chilling.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
In two thousand and five. You you start playing it
and went to that and went to it. How did
you know that would arrange for you? So? How do
you know that? Cause I know that like talking to text,
don text all or another said loan, don't interview, don't
interview gangster.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Yeah he don't like man I I I want. I
been wanting to say something disrespectful to you, but I
just been like, nah, cause he gotta right to feel
how you feel.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Yeah he been he been, he too. I just did
him yesterday, like, don't interview that.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
He can't stand like I'm him. Send him a few dollars.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
You don't need no money anybody.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
You always need in prison, always need in.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Prison, need no money, he's straight.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
No, listen to me, you always need in prison, bro
Unlet's see if he got megs on the book.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Then yeah, they don't got means on the books. But
he's straight, he's straight. Listen, iliggas just send him.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
Listen to me, bro I about to say, I got
twenty from baby, and I was getting money. But you
always need in prison because you don't know what the
time you got when that's gonna run out.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
He ain't gonna accept your money though, he ain't gonna.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Have to say. I'm gonna get his number and send
it anyway, but I would be in gonna send him anyway.
I ain'tna send him a diamond Chinese money. But listen, uh.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Listen, yeah, he said, but but but but damn, what
was I saying?

Speaker 3 (36:45):
I forgot but I think I was talk me getting
killed or yeah yeah, so so you think that now
this is what I was saying. So talking to text Stone,
I asked him about the person that has him facing
well not facing serving the thirty five years, which.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
Is troy Al because Troy Abb is also incarcerated. Right now, man,
I said, I said, what's going on with troy Al?
You know where is he at?

Speaker 3 (37:10):
And he knew just by where he was at that
it's a hospital jail. You know, it's like more like
a it's more like a hospital than a jail. Like
it ain't like prison. It's prison, but it ain't like Rikers.
He said something about this the medical building in Rikers.
So it's a different kind of time. And so how
do you know that because you was in that compound?

(37:33):
How you know people don't recognize that as the cooperation compound,
Like it's on that yard right there. Them co operate
they do.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
That's what they think about that. Yeah, okay, yeah, that's
what I think they got.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
They have me.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
They got a few penitentiaries and a few mediums that
if you was an edge game member, you're a sex offender.
You snizze the government. They gonna put you on that compound.
So we gonna be alright, Oh they did. They didn't
learnt the game.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
They us inmates teach them what need to be done
year about dying getting slashed up and.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
Cut off rum. Yeah, they had put a side down
some pin. It would be child Unlissa Chomo walk in
his compound if you put your hand on you going
to court. It wasn't from that to you know what,
let's clean his whole yell out like two s like
uh terry hut. They had made that a drop out
so they had put as a list up everybody in here.

(38:33):
I want try to know whoever wanna stay here. It
is about to be a drop out yard eks game
and the snitches uh uh childing le or they all
gonna walk this yard. So if you don't wanna be
here thet you kind of look side the paper and
were gonna ship you out of here. That's why a
lot of them Bloods were mad with Guca cause he
stayed there.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
He stayed there.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
What on Tucson.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
I mean he stayed on me drop out yard.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
Yeah, when it turned to the drop yard yard, he
stayed there cause the man was shot. Why would I
go somewhere else? And I'm sure.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
Is that against the rule?

Speaker 2 (39:05):
Yeah, if you a active blood member, if you active gaming,
of course it's against the rules. Cause if you a
active game member and you wanna drop out yard, that
means these guys got green they got up there plate
it's a green ot on him. You gotta pop on him.
You gotta take off on him. You gotta harm them,
and if you don't, then we gonna do you something.
Why you on his yard?

Speaker 3 (39:26):
Right?

Speaker 2 (39:27):
So you got some dudes like, man, I'm shot to
go home. Man, I'm not about to leave off his yard.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Did he face any backglass for that?

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Yeah? So they had some gaming. Some people was naming
Hi about that. Yeah, man, mahin care, I'm about I
gotta get up out of here.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
He ain't get put in violation though, sometimes the rappers
seem to be above dug the policy.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
How you gonna get put in violation when it didn't
turned this penitentiary from a killing machine to a c
a cup camp cake?

Speaker 3 (39:51):
You know camp Was he there when there was a
killer machine? Yeah, you gotta respect it then, No, how you.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
Respect it if you on active game time and you
push his blood line and now when they change.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
It and you stay there, I'm talking about. You gotta
respect it that he was there when it was time,
but he called he should have left.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Though, Yeah, you're supposed to go you if you pushing.

Speaker 4 (40:12):
This guccier active though, I don't know, but I know
I was. You know you hear the how you prison
talk You yeah, I don't think Gucci active though not
no more. Yeah, I don't think the right because it
kicking heaven.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Now, gotta be with somebody one thing. But dude, take
you they they line, you gotta be with somebody.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Who was you with the Muslims? Yeah, you wanna be
something Muslims they accept anybody.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
Yeah yeah, I mean he's supposed it's a religion. But
they said we're a game, right, but this would always
ask him what was first religion or game? Then I
tell him, because we have a protocol. Your blood, your
brother blood is sacred. Take care of your brother, I say, brother.
Christians did the same thing. They would be the biggest

(40:57):
call in the bop, but there only be Sunday Christians ahead.
He fell up and then when they leave they backbite
and they do they rather stab his brother. They go again.
Some Muslims do it too, But for the most part,
we all stay together. So say, oh y'all a gang. Nah,
we just protect our brother. We believe in the same faith.
You know, we r w brother that prayer. He got
to stay together.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
So if they would the guy that you the Muslim ride,
that's a fact. You riding for the Muslim head first.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
But with this all this on the line head first,
I got to.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
But just still my brother, cause this is what we believe. This,
this is what people get misconstrued with gang and religion,
politics and religion. You can't do that. That's why when
people say, man, he he became Muslim because he wanted
to be protected, it always go back to the high
deep with the profer Mhummed teller Tolim say did you
cut his chest over and examine his heart? How you

(41:48):
know for sure he God mighta moved him and say okay,
come on and you know and change his life. So
that's why we don't get into all.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
Well, but it is a scenario what people do, say
that people do.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Yeah, a lot of people say, oh he took he can't.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
And run to the malls be cause they accept you.
If you snitch, you can do whatever.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
Because here's the thing, like when I was email, I'm
not gonna worry about what you did. I'm gonna get
your actions. Did you coming to juwemr you praying that?

Speaker 3 (42:13):
You know?

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Is he praying? Is he really trying to study?

Speaker 3 (42:15):
Right?

Speaker 2 (42:16):
I know he's sincere. But if you just say lady
like a lord, my hummy, go to law. Then you
just running with the homies, smoking, drinking, you he's tripping. Yeah,
that was all I Yeah, but if you only you
coming to JUWMU. You doing you?

Speaker 3 (42:27):
Yeah, he's the brother, the brother, No right, Kevin Gates
done done, took that journey as well. I'm pretty sure
you're proud to proud of Gates.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
Of course.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
Now he's standing on it, of course.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
But this is what I look at because I've studied
for years and you. The difference is this when a
lot of people take your hot on the street, A
lot of them don't study. So a lot of them
bringing the baggage to the Dean, A lot of them
had the Dean kind of mixed up and they be
adding stuff. Nah, then it takes you out. The food
is life, right, she gotta be careful, right, And I

(43:03):
be hearing certain stuff with some of these rappers, and
so many people be saying, I'd be like that, ain't
his line. You could be in shirt, but you can't
do right, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (43:11):
I hear that also from my other homeboy. It did
twenty year he knowing like the back of his hand.
I'm talking about he can start just spitting that shit.
And he a gangster, but he can start just spitting
that shit and it's like, bro that y'all'll be studying
in that jail.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
On that prison is an elementary middle high school college.
If you wanna get it is there you can imply yourself.
You ain't gonna apply yourself to become educated and smart
and learn something, or you gonna go hang out with
the homies or go get you a punk in the bone.
What you gonna do with?

Speaker 3 (43:44):
What? What?

Speaker 1 (43:44):
What is some of the stuff you hear like rappers say,
like Gates or somebody?

Speaker 2 (43:48):
What?

Speaker 3 (43:48):
What do they say that you say like, cause you can,
you know, help correct your brother. He may not understand it.
You know what I'm saying cause I don't think. I
don't think.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
Primate is happen. No Muslim should wear a period period?
Why that's the Christians. That's the sign. You know, Jesus
lays alim and it's a Muslim. Anybody say that mustas
didn't say they don't believe in Jesus? Did he not
a Muslim? You believe in Jesus. We love Jesus. But
that's what the Christians use. The cross, the crusade, they

(44:18):
all use the cross, Muslim, we we youin't gonna been
them with the cross, a lot of 'em.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
But any of the literature, huh, it's any of the
literature wrong, any of the it's.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
A l Yeah, it's a lot of stuff I be hearing.
I'm be like, No, that ain't islime. You know you
can't like uh, whenever you in the room praying, if
you got a bunch of Christians they're praying, you shouldn't
be praying it because they praying in Jesus name I
pr We don't believe in that. But when you participate
in that, you condone in that.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
So you can't. A Muslim can't pray with Christians.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
No, a mussel can't pray with nobody unless you muscling.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
If we just say, alright, y'all, we feeling the spirit
in here. Little Johnny just died, let's say prayer the
Muslim suppost to keep his head up and don't get
down with it.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
Yeah, Because like I say, and I believe, we believe
in the One God, like I said, we love, We
believe Jesus was a prophet of a message, and we
believe Moses Abraham Abraham the fault of the religions. So
we believe that. So if you in this setting you
supposed to be respectfully, be quiet. Let them well if
you in there with your head bied on it and

(45:24):
God eyes claud what you doing? Yeah, and you got
some brothers to be like man out of respect. I
just pray with her, Nah, you can't do that. You
believe what you believe in, standing on it, cause they
gonna you respecting everybody. They gonna respect yours. My mother
Christian Baptist, lover her love me, and every year for Ramadan,
she wanna fast with me. But she standing on what

(45:47):
she believe, what she is which and she raised me
in the Baptist church. But we don't have no problems
cause she said, I see it's a big difference. I
see the changeing you behavior.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
Go ahead, do you what made you start killing?

Speaker 2 (45:59):
I was young. They get mad with me. They been
tearing me up. The sayd is bird bird man. I
always just wanted to be accepted. I just wanted to
I just n a you know, a young age to
be like I'm bad. I know I could about I

(46:22):
just I always wanted to just be a little gangster.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
Are you worried about getting your brother and dited.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
Though with all of that, I know for a fact
he would never get Indeed, that's why I do the
things I do, and I say what I say to
an extent. No one never heard me say. On November Ford,
nineteen seventy four, Man Birdman went to Shakespeare Park. She
put the gun in my head. He told me to
hold it with two hands, and we shot truck Donald Trump.

(46:56):
No one never hurt me, put 'em on a scene,
or never heard me give.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
B what he did.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
But you know about the king being charge, you know
what the rico is.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
You know what some of these loss.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
But the statute limitation. Only think homeostatus of the table
is a body in a body. You gotta have evidence,
you gotta have proof.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
But do you think he can take it away?

Speaker 2 (47:16):
Like man?

Speaker 1 (47:17):
He seemed like he trying to get me in that.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
You know, because you know what and I have you said.
I showed this one time. Uh when he did a
interview with Big Facts, he say, man, and somebody come
playing with me, you gonna die. I'm a gangster. My
part was a gangster, my homies and gagst. I grew
up around gangsters. So like I told the people. You
got a mogul, a legend in a rap game that's

(47:40):
still pushing poule blood swoop black, still say that I'm
a gangster. You played me, you gonna die? Well, I
can't tell my stories now. If he was man, I

(48:01):
ain't with that. Stop the violence, y'all need to put
them guns down. Don't do this, y'all follow my step.
Get this money then I'm out of I'm out of bomb,
out of pocket.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
I mean it is entertainment though, So he's not pushing
it in the street.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
He pushing it on music.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
He an active blood, right, I don't see him like that.
You ain't.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
You don't see him with the red rad I.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
Don't see him as a blood.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
Oh all right? That makes you don't seehim as a
blood because you feel like we ain't come up as blood.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
That's my thing. Why how you end up with blood?

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Well? See that's I don't know, but one thing to see.
He's still put in a lot of bloods except him.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
Yeah, he meking. Now we know how this goes. I'm
talking about you know, active blood all there?

Speaker 2 (48:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (48:47):
Cool, I believe he's standing on whatever he's standing. I
don't see him like that. Though you know what I'm saying.
I know around him may push the five hard be
real members. But I see him as bird Man, the
mobile that doesn't sold billions of records, that it's just
selling a niche of our culture to the culture on
the mainstream level, you know. But I don't see him
as an active blood when if he ever been active,

(49:11):
when did he ever get active? If anything, he going
down on a rico or kingpin, That's what I'm saying,
those kind of those kind of things can be in
the back of his mind, saying if don't nobody know nothing,
that probably knows something, and he'll get down, you know
what I'm saying, done got out before you know. And
now he's saying certain things. Maybe that makes him afraid,

(49:32):
like damn, this is gonna get me. But then you said,
you know for a fact, he'll never get indicted.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
Yeah, think about this. I just did twenty three and
ten if you take the time. But I know you
busy man, because you got a lot going on. And
get my paperwork and you see cashmore, you see so
much stuff. You'll say, man, iw bird ain't gettingdicted. Me
and this man on the phone talking about a body
talking about a good I got life because of that conversation.

(49:59):
So I know what they want, what they looking for?
What he ain't go to jail all this long time.
He not gonna go to jail cause of me. And
I can stand on that.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
I know.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
I could look at your eye for say for a fact, right,
he not gonna go to jail cause of that. Yeah,
what I'm saying right, the internet love lies. He could
be a lie. What I'm saying right cause you know
he got a lawyer. I probably I will approve it.
If you was, you was leting you back then?

Speaker 1 (50:24):
What what a gun? And what a you think he's
in the one saying you lying about this shit?

Speaker 3 (50:29):
You saying no?

Speaker 2 (50:30):
Cause wonder before a wag ast him about it on
in in the clubhouse.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
He just did it.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Yeah, he said, Man, he was there day one. He yeah,
he he ask him. He that, yeah, take this out.
Think about this here. Yeah, he cut me off because
of my name being dirty. But you don't think he
got my phone number. You don't think he got my
mother number. You slim got my number. So if I'm
doing something wrong, one of 'e woulda been called me
and say hey, stand down, stop saying stop scribing my name.

(50:55):
Keep my name out of your mouth no one time.
And if they call him and said, i'm'aspect that, because okay, cool,
I'm gonna respect that. But I ain't never got a
phone call tell him to shut up?

Speaker 3 (51:07):
Right, do you Slim your brother as well? Because you
don't mention Slim as much. That's the thing. I would say,
he picked you up. I remember you said bird Man
picked you up.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
Slim, because it's like, that's one person that don't have
to tell me don't do too much, you know, because
he don't live his life without heart and open, Like, hey, y'all,
I used to be that due. I used to get money.
I was in Monamaala. He don't do that. So I'm like, okay,
I ain't gonna really go too far. But Slim, I

(51:41):
ain't gonna play with the big dog like that. I
play with baby a little bit.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
Slim.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
No, I just not gonna do it.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
Yeah, I just I just wonder, you know, because he's
a legit man at this point, he's doing a lot
of business. I just wanted to do his thing, like
I can't trust my brother and talking like did saying
this and that?

Speaker 2 (52:01):
Well, yeah, reason already face. He can't trub me, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
But even if he even if he could have, even
if he could have, at some point got over. Man,
the boy sat down and went wrong. He went bad.
You know, he done got hot about some if he
could justify the dead people thing in his head, which
I don't think he can, because you said he got
bet Bezo around him on some whole other ships saying

(52:25):
this too and then this too is just too much
like oh man, that nigga.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
So now he's at the point where we.

Speaker 3 (52:29):
All that's why you that's why you burned it in
the ground. You don't want that motherfucker in.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
They all went on.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
To the people say games and then we don't want
hit that the more telling something or beat it.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
Yeah, I got it.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
Listen to what I'll be saying when you When I
was in prison, when people was making these documentaries telling
the hot boys story telling stories about me, it was
cool everybody listening. Some people believe some people don't believe it.
But then when I hit the scene, now he put
the like slim head to see me in that ball
and chill heard the phase of tee gainst my Giggy
took Life plus twenty without making a sound. So Slim

(53:02):
put my name of the song. So people now like,
oh you gig you the one Slim was rapping by
borl blah blah blah. So now the face here, then
I'm gonna I'm gonna have some older guy. So it's
like that's another thing that's killing his young boy. The
young girl you on my line. So it's like with money,
I'm dangerous. Oh boy, so not he like keeping that
big give them a little let him. They don't bother

(53:24):
me because they looking at it like we ain't gotta
take care of him. We ain't gotta give him none.
He grinding making.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
And you're helping the gangster card.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
And there you go in the in the I'm cod
shoting your ship internet fast.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Yeah you know all this YouTube street your facts.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
You kind of adding to it now that I was
a monster man and nigga you know them young and nah,
Slim body even said it. You know what I'm saying,
that ship working. But it's like I don't think I
still don't think they respect it. But they can't.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
They can't do nothing but respect it because it's your
story too.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
And then you know. He was really in the streets,
like I said, and he tied to every not everybody,
a lot of their gangsters. Then he got a one
that's running with him.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
When he say it was a million are fifteen and
sixteen sixteen?

Speaker 2 (54:11):
He was getting it. It was rich. It was good money.

Speaker 3 (54:13):
You know. They come down you you was you out?
You know they come down through here. Yeah what ninety nine?
Uh yeah, young Remember Wayne, I'm in Nashville me and
plied spitting eighty boy. They came down here. We get
money down here.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
We some rich young down here.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
You know what I'm saying. So they come down he
got money with all the out South. That's how they
that's how they first met young buck.

Speaker 1 (54:39):

Speaker 3 (54:39):
Them folks are down here, Man, you're a.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
Young buffer right here.

Speaker 3 (54:43):
Yeah, these little young richards down here grabbed his arm.
They CD and just called it what y'all want for
a show man? Before?

Speaker 1 (54:53):
Man, come on, when can you be down here street?

Speaker 3 (54:56):
Then he got tired.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
They were just man.

Speaker 3 (54:58):
We we we them car down here, so we showed
them real love. I actually think some of their style
they got from down here because them little South who
they were hanging with were wearing Rolex's Mercedes benz Is.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
They was camouflage and shit.

Speaker 3 (55:14):
They wasn't really on that, at least from my perspective
when they came down, but I think they started to
see shit and then they was already them. They were rich,
making a lot of money. But we was one of
the first cities to embrace cast money. Like with money,
I ain't talking about just listening to the music. It
was street down here to say what's them? Because back
then you put your number on the back of the

(55:35):
CD in the street and what do you want? Whatever
number they said were cool, them said one hundred and fifty.
The peopould have said running. They were getting dope money
down here for Californian shit. So all of them end
up going fed and everything though Paul Wood's you know
Paul Wood. The thing got out on the first step

(55:56):
act too. But that's the thing, that first step act.
When you got so you would but you already had
went left before the first step at Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
But see the thing was this because every time I filed,
like if you look at my that wasn't take to
get my centing trainshrip. Yeah, when I went back my
coat fitd in blaboh won the case. We got centings
and ninety nine. I got life, he got forty years.
I filed my pity, denied my appeal, he filed, he
got granted. He got granted October twenty he went back. Uh.

(56:26):
October two thousand, he went back. The judge took eighty
months off his four hundred and eighty months again and
four in a month. I filed, uh fied. The judge granted.
In two thousand and two a March, I go back.
I'm like, well, he took his talk blaber sentence and
blabl he said Blackber had the guns. It was this gun.

(56:47):
He orchestraed. Be I know he gonna get me some play.
I'm'a get about twenty five credit court. My lawyer then
talking to the prosecutor the pricey he said, yes, it
was up or. The prosecute said, agreed that you should
get at least thirty years. Alright, cool, take that life
off and a prosecute jump on, yan. How can we
let a man out like this here who don't wanna
tell us what happened with these murders?

Speaker 3 (57:04):
Or how do they all this in my sentence and
try but how can this Why I understand you wouldn't
charge with their murders, but they they using these against.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
You because they cause it's like they said, when you
plead guilty, they want you to accept your responsibility and
tell 'em the truth.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
Tell them ever, bouy some shit I ain't charged with. Ho,
I'm gonna tell you the truth about some shit y'all
ain't even got any charge with.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
That's how them feeds do. They go off hearsay, bro
aks some of your people text and they ask them,
they'll tell you the fig go off here say and
it's a new lord. They passed that lord hearsay and
if they if dudes who be coming before you in
cooperate with them and say yeah he did this, and
then you got something else, gona come in, yeah he
did this, and now they got that fig got all
that right here. Now what's going on? We know you hed,

(57:43):
We got from different people saying you was here. Tell
the the truth, so it be in they mind you
did this. Hey, ah, I did it. Man, You sometime
you might an't really do that, but because you wanna
get that cut so bad because now they freedom in
your hand and your freedom in their hand so now
they they control the dice, you know what I'm saying.
So it's like, ah, yeah I did that, man, y'all,
I did that. That that damn sell them fed do

(58:05):
with them people dirty. That's why I be saying, bruh,
I be telling them, y'aster bry, y'all out of your game,
bing y'all do the fair get you boy, gonna hide you.

Speaker 3 (58:11):
Yeah, they gonna got a place for you. They that
you got a place for you.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
Yeah, damn man, cause let all you live convicted feeling friend,
know that's in jail. And I ain't coming back.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
I ain't gonnah can get you back.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
I ain't going back up.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
No, ain't nothing can get you back out here.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
Yeah my family, Yeah, but i'm' n I know how
to move nowing I'm by myself now, I'm gonna hit it. Man,
I'm gone. But no, mar you been say, well, listen,
I don't.

Speaker 5 (58:37):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
I'm not going back to jail.

Speaker 4 (58:38):
Bruh.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
I ain't got a taste of this freedom. It's too
many women. It's too many women out here.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
That's why you ain't going back to New Orleans.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
I did. That's the f when I first went back
that's the first ding. That's why we went at in
New Orlean.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
They gonna hurt you you go to New Orlean, some.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
Of 'em they'll try.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
But I got a crew down in this rocket with
me right and now.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
Yeah, I got people in New Orleans I could call
right now.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
They they with it, they wit when they gone it
with the bull.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
Yeah, I got people still love me down there. Bird
the one who got me from down he the one
told me when first man get down and get from
down there, ain't get out that jungle. Yeah. I was
down there when I first got released.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
I was in the y.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
Look, I'm riding around looking, I'm spooking down. I'm like,
let the work. Oh, then the boy clutch it and
stop hanging. I w m we ride 'emna call my mother.
My mama, say Terrence, that's ma'am. She say cars are
going to turn. When we turn, cars are gonna go
the whare we going? Like, mam man, I'm sh but
any nobody knew I was hungry, but I just was spooking.
Bro I was man, cause it just looked at like

(59:33):
a walking dead. It just looked like a gold town.
And I was like things change. I don't have that
power no more. I don't have that at that pool.
I don't have that respect, said man. I it's when
that boy to get I called it the broa for word. Hey,
can I usual drab coming out? Yeah? I he people say, God,
I took my federal ID and flew out there, got

(59:54):
up out of there. Bruh.

Speaker 3 (59:55):
Now do you think do you think that?

Speaker 2 (59:57):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (59:59):
So you think they will try you? Now?

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
Yeah, you owe some of them blood.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
I do for a fact. They're trying.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
They want it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
Yeah, it's because it's and it's a bunch of the yunsters.
Now that's cool with some of the old head that
I was beef ahead that been disrespected me online. So
I know if they caught me, they'll try.

Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
To get they online disrespecting you out of New Orleans
right now.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
Yeah, there's a few of the.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
Why and you hurt they.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
People or something?

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
You know some of them they just riding a wave
with some of their old heads.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
Some of them know me.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
Some of them was on a porch when I was
on the street. Some of them it was little boys
or whatever. Don't don't had nothing to do with my
beef whatever. But they just heard and they're just riding
that wave followed bro. Yeah, but I'll be cool with
it because when I'm bored, I trolled too. All right,
you wanna play, I gotta right, let's get it. Yeah. Yeah,
it's one that he can't stay me at the Carryo Project.

Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
He's right there and now in the cardio here.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
A little ugly little dude to the teeth missing, and
he be on there looking at the dregs, and he
be going.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
If you called a self defense, you will tell something
right now again, like.

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
Say, if you catch a few more bodies, I could
try to so you got you will tell something else.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
I got to that. I already got to tell.

Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
Jacket.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
Why would you go be standing on for nothing? Well,
that's a that's a listen. Anybody that got a rat jacket,
he get caught trying to impress the people talking about
Oh I'm a stand I'm a real Nah. That's old
where you valley that you didn't give that ghetto pass
up save.

Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
You didn't give that ghetto bro, you didn't get that
ghetto pass all where?

Speaker 3 (01:01:32):
Bro? It's old.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
So that's why I don't put myself in a situations
where I could have to go to jail. While that's
why I'm not I will never sell drugs again. It
could be a truck over there and I see the
migos get pulled over and there got a it's full
of kilos in there and the police took them in jail,
and ain't know that's a truck. You think I'm gonna
get that truck.

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
It's like you feel like you escaped or something you
rain or something you get me the end of jail.
You don't give me comfort the boil energy from in
the inside. It seemed like you you I ain't going
back in that month or nothing, which I need that
energy from black men. Though. I don't want to go
to jail, right, don't want to go to jail right that.
I don't want to go to jail, So I ain't

(01:02:14):
acting like I want to go there. Long don't want
to go to jail. But whatever happened, I got to
eat it. I got to eat it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
It's unfortunate, but I got to eat it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
But you get your your energy gives me like shit, boy,
no matter what, I ain't going back in what to me?

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
Let me show you something. Long think about this. When
I went there, I was respected love duhdo looked up
to me? Now with this dirty stuff going on, with
the certain compounds, I'm not gonna be the living on
That's a fact, certain compounds. I'm not gonna be the walk.
So why I put myself through having to check into
a whole being there three four months for they ship

(01:02:55):
me people, bringing these food and going through all that
when I could be out here, I can feed up
what I want. I can lock down when I want,
I can pick me a good Come on, hang out
with O.

Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
You can't go back though, you can't go in there.
N I ain't gonna shame you shamed the walker show
you trying to act like you ain't shamed, like I
don't really care nothing about it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
But don't really shame.

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
No, no, yes, that's why you can't go face them.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
You do come out here and face me out here.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
You'll face him out here.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
That's a fact. You We both men out here be equal.
And now you got a little advantage. You got a
little advantage in here, but ill here. This my playground,
man all lot for It's my playground out here, bro,
So here's my thing. I like sept my wrong, I
know IM wrong, Leave me alone. Yeah, it's like the

(01:03:42):
credible Hawk. Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like when
I get angry, So let me stay in my zone.
I'm not bothering nobody. I'm just on the internet making
me a few dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
You ain't doing like my homeboy did the life sentence
it got out from the first step back. He doing
like uh, he doing community work. He be marching and
all kinds of shit he's see because see them being
way down there in the system and lost and fire
and shit, and they ain't helping him. He can't tell
on nobody.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
He was the top of the top, so he had
to do the twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:04:17):
But it's like now the system handone him so bad
that even day free, he trying to get the system
like fixed and worry about the loss. And he going
down to sit the meetings and council meetings. He doing
all that kind of shit.

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
Do you do that?

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
Y'all got dyn profit calls? They need us. I go
down to the to the shelters, feed the people by
clothes all that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
But is that a hustle? No, not from you, But
I'm saying I'm talking about he do something that shit.
They don't get he be down there mad stuff. That's
what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (01:04:52):
The killers in they be killers in the in the
you think they just with the little thing walking it
be down there that I It's like, man, them boys,
if they go down, they.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
Gonna show out.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
Yeah, I ain't about to do all that, That's.

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
What I'm saying, because you'll be in one of them
situations where you can be down there with the piggy
sign or whatever and they go down. Now what theyna
smack you? You know, somebody races done hit you with
it anything, you know, but you don't go that far,
you you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
I ain't doing all that first down because I always
tell people I'm scared to die first, And am I
beefing that I'm scared to die first cause they not
gonna get no get back. Like I'm gonna get some
get back. My homies might ride, but they gonna take
their time. But I don't wanna die first, So I'm
gonna let them do that part. Let me just do
the Yeah, I'm not nah, I'm not doing that. But

(01:05:42):
I've been talking to the two people at the school
board to go into the talks with the children I've
been doing, you know, stuff like that. It's just me
by myself, though, you know, I got I just got.
I had went to be a waukady and I went
to the uh the uh honorary uh or reform or
players ball. I'm in the reform uh convicted, uh feeling

(01:06:04):
in the reform felling ball, my bad reform filling ball
out of Milwaukee. Uh meet in uh uh uh uh
or pimpy Kin put that stuff together. I got me
a plaid trophy, talked to the children, talk to the
parents and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
So y'all, yeah, I just had pimmy Kin, don't you know?

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
He told me.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
I asked him about Charles the White. He said, Charles D.

Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
White is on like my.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
Homie gangster Williams left. He ain't on my level. Do
you think you and Charge the White on the same level?
Like I think Charles the White more famous than you?

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
Hold up? Pimpy Kin said that, Yeah, how you said it?

Speaker 3 (01:06:39):
He said, Charleston White is on your level, like y'all
on cause I was saying cause I asked him. I said,
he said you was homeboy, but I asked him him
like Charleston White said, you was broke.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
He went off forty five minutes. It must have heard
it and uh.

Speaker 3 (01:06:52):
And then he was like, you.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
Can't compare Charge and White to me.

Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
You can compat Charge and White to somebody like my
homeboy gangster Wiims. So I'm because I said, Charleston White
more famous than pimman Kin. Mh. But he was trying
to act like I was. I wouldn't saying some sh.

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
Let me tell you something and you could check any interview.
I've always told people Charleston White, if not the biggest,
one of the biggest person on YouTube. Yeah he won
of as I said for black people. Yeah, you know,
but one of the biggest on you in Jaguar right

(01:07:28):
and cheer kim rickab mother. You can't miss with him.
And now you got the young boy Woodie. He coming
up in the ranks. You can't miss with them. Even
outside Campbell.

Speaker 3 (01:07:40):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
I think you can miss with her son because you're
gonna keep fifty six.

Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
That's on his thing.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
Charleston can come and turn your ship.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
That's a fact, anybody what I'm telling you.

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
So, so that's the difference. It's like that's when you're powerful,
when I come like your ship. Yeah yeah, if you
can go live on your own ship, that's cool. But
can you come this man over here and then over
here some me and over there to go.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
That's a fact. Yeah he got and he I agreed. Yeah,
he waved so so so.

Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
Pimmy Kin was saying, yo, nah he on Gangster Williams left.
I'm like, bro, you tripping and he was telling me
to be and people saw me on the fifty cent thing.
I'm like, I understand that. Buty bruh.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
The boy voice loud right now, man.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
This man they're about to see her. Peppy kN been
doing this thing. Shout to Peppy Ken. But the same
people who Pippy kN been running with meeting they're all
lining up the beach chaus a white this man hang
I would floor me with and all these Adam rode
with that little young white guy. Yeah, he had man

(01:08:42):
chauton and made his way.

Speaker 3 (01:08:43):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
Yeah he made this.

Speaker 3 (01:08:45):
Listen, he gotta get up.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
He got it. He You know what I respect about him.
When I came out to Texas, he was with the
first one that embraced me. He had invited me out
to uh Atlanta to talk to the children at the school,
and I remember posting choice white on my page and
a lot of them, oh gee, we rock with you.
But man, we don't rock hill Man. We don't like
he too do respectful notty all of him there was

(01:09:10):
hitting me.

Speaker 3 (01:09:10):
You want a lot of people over because he started
with hate, and it's hard to start with hate and
get loved.

Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
Yeah, rude, reverse psychology.

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
Yeah, but you gotta be witty to do that, because
once they started to look over and hate you, it's
hard to turn that. You got to say something when
they look it. That's the trick he done while they
was looking. He knew I got to keep saying something
and not just right just I gotta have some game.
I gotta put some game down. But but he he
I've been.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
Telling people for the longest in my interviews, and he
tell people, man, I just be popped. I'll be having fun.
I just do this to jump out there and they
steal a bite. They still a jump out there, and
then cha gonna eat. He gonna eat.

Speaker 3 (01:09:52):
He tried to get me yesterday. I tell him, hey, bro,
hit me another time. I heard him try to give me. Yeah, yeah,
I said, bro, you know, because we've done been through
this before like he is. This is when he first
got on he thought of anybody roll because that's how
you know how he talked broke and he could go
live right now up two hundred k on you right now.

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
He tried to get me.

Speaker 3 (01:10:14):
And I know he tried to get me because I
heard the phone go to speaker phone and I know
how he played.

Speaker 6 (01:10:20):
I know speaker and record. I know he's playing the
speaker and record guy. I hung right up on him.
It's over, bro You feel used by it? About all
these people around you? They want something, they asking for shit,
they pulling on the dude. He probably didn't see. This
is the difference between what me and charged the white

(01:10:40):
his bilt. I don't got to get out there and
go get the money. See, he got to get on
the road. He gotta go to Vegas and this and that,
and that's popping.

Speaker 3 (01:10:47):
That means you popping, But it also means you got
to build some kind of infrastructure to where that same
money you gotta go out and get can just be
made if your infrastructure is right. You see what I'm saying,
Like he probably like, I'm telling you I made a
friend this money. I had probably money if I crunch
the numbers down. I had a money dude, you know

(01:11:10):
what I'm saying. And for somebody that like Charging White,
that he gotta do interview in Miami, an interview with
Say Cheese, an interview over here, his residency over here.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
He gotta move around.

Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
So just picture if I did start moving around too,
it'll double the money. So I always tell him, like,
bru it's infrastructure, bro. Like it's infrastructure, bro. Like your
podcast need to be doing just as good when you
go sit with say Cheese. You know what I'm saying.
That's the trick. Once he do that, he gone to

(01:11:42):
another level because he's gonna warrant the money from inside
these buildings. Right now, he's a he's what they call
him internet personality. He ain't a podcast, he ain't a
media personality. He's an Internet personality. And these are different
things when you're getting in to the nooks and crannies
of the understanding and the business. You know what I'm saying.

(01:12:03):
I just think he gotta get some get something that
take his But he really can't monetize on YouTube because
they don't let him. Anytime they find out it's his channel,
they demonetize it. You know. So I don't know if
he can I don't know what he can do, but
I'll be honest, I didn't think he will survive as
long as he survived because I said, if they won't
let him get his YouTube well, because every time he

(01:12:25):
got a YouTube up, they snatched it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
I said, if they won't let him do that, he
gonna die out.

Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
Because what I thought was if they seen him on
say cheese, they'll turn his shit yellow no matter what,
and he'll just say, man, I ain't with this.

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
I ain't doing that no more. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:12:40):
But he was able to get around it, bro, he
was able to get around it. But yeah, shut out,
Charleston White Man, I got.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
Some people want me to do interview, would uh Woody?
Do you know they are some people telling him to
do interview with wood He he doing an interview. I
know you just did a meeting with twenty to one.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
It's up that podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:13:07):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
We got to the bottom of the situation, my nigga.

Speaker 3 (01:13:12):
I got gangster Williams in.

Speaker 1 (01:13:13):
Here, man, then y'all know the real I'm in the building.
Why let's get it, y'all do something with that game.

Speaker 3 (01:13:20):
Let's go

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