Questlove With Jill Scott Part 2

One of Questlove and Team Supreme's most anticipated interviews, Jill Scott, is finally here! Her relationship with The Roots introduced her to the world through a Grammy award winning song called, “You Got Me”. Hear the story of how a talented girl from North Philly joined forces with some of Philly’s finest to stake her claim in this world of soul music and take it far beyond expectations into the lands of television and film.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome, Welcome to ja dot com, a production of iHeartRadio.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. Ladies and gentlemen,
welcome back. My name is Questlove.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
Last week we had this long overdue talk with our friend,
our love, Jill Scott. Coming up without further ado, Part
two of our exciting interview on Quest Love Supreme, One
and only Miss Jill Scott. This is like our first

(00:41):
real extended conversation has lasted more than an hour in
our twenty years of knowing each other.

Speaker 4 (00:46):
Now I understand why she ended up working with Jazz
and Jail.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
And I was trying. I called. I called James Poyser
because I knew him from the Jam sessions. I called
every producer that I knew of, every studio that I
knew of, to find out if they needed a writer
or a singer. And for six months, nobody said anything.
And then one day I saw Jazzy Jeff on the

(01:16):
street talking to Rich Medina and I was like, what's up.
I'm just annoyed, you know, heading to the theater, go
sweep floors and clean toilets. And I walked away and
Jeff was like, who's that? And Rich told him. Now,
that's Joe Scott. He was like, that's Jill Scout. She
calls my studio every day.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
And then they called me in to see if I
could write a song, but I, you know, still lying.
I was like, yeah, yeah, I write a song. And
I tried it and it worked out. It just and
it kept working out, and it just until the album
happened and you have work.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
When was the first song that you wrote?

Speaker 1 (01:58):
The first song had a touch of jazz, The first
song that I ever wrote, Well, the hook I ever
wrote was you got me?

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Wait a minute, dog, that's what she said.

Speaker 5 (02:06):
She said, she faked her.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
I know that, but I still was hoping to get
clarity that my song wasn't your first, got my first.

Speaker 5 (02:20):
But that's what you get?

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Are you serious?

Speaker 3 (02:28):
I am for all listening to this episode. That's a
life lesson. You stepped into some ship, into an opportunity.
I would have thought that by that point you, I mean,
you handled it like you've been doing this ship for
seven eight years. You I've never once heard you say

(02:48):
this is the first song I ever wrote? And wait? Also,
how it feels to be Drake famous? Did you like
your shout out?

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Yeah? This is this is his second one?

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Oh shit, I the first time.

Speaker 5 (03:00):
Yeah, oh wait, we got two Drake icons on the line.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
What he said, Jill? Huh?

Speaker 5 (03:05):
What did he say to you? I missed it?

Speaker 2 (03:06):
He talked about his question on Jill Scott on this
new album.

Speaker 5 (03:10):
Yeah, okay, I'll go listen to that.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
All the kids are listening to it.

Speaker 5 (03:14):
It's very sweet, man, you banging, I mean, okay, yeah, she.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Got thanks ma'am. Thanks yo.

Speaker 6 (03:21):
But Jill, weren't you one of the one of the
rare artists that actually got the whole touch of jazz
involved in your record, because it's not like too many
artists that have everybody right.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Yeah, what was it like at the point where they
were together like.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
As magic magic? I missed that, I think. I mean,
that's the thing I missed the most. We had so
much fun in every room. They were working every room,
five rooms, four rooms or whatever it was at the time.
You just walk out of one and go to the
next a totally different energy, and then you go in
the next room and laugh hysterically. Vidal of course, was

(03:53):
hilarious and still is. And and Dre is learning how
to play the guitar at the time, and Keith is
straight out of church, so all of his stuff everything,
and he puts his fingers to on the keys. It
just feels like like old soul because the church that
he was in his father was a pastor, and it

(04:13):
just felt old and rich and everything. It was. We
had fun. We didn't have any money. We shared cheese steaks,
We cut out, cut out the McDonald's bags to go
to great events, not great adventures. All rolled in Dre's car.
It had a hole in the floor if you're sat
in the front seat and not fall asleep and let

(04:37):
your feet fall in the hole because it was a rap.
We were broke and it was fun and it was
probably still the best time I ever had.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
It were working, you were working on the album or
what would become the album. This was before Hidden Beach
even came into the picture.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Yeah. I had been calling Jeff and finally he'd seen
me and he said, okay, you can come in. I
called again and said why did you come down? And
none of the guys wanted to give me any music?
So I kind of hung around, stood around, hung around
and said, well, do you have anything that you know
that I could take? And they were like, oh no, no,
we're working with Will Smooth. We're working with you know.

(05:20):
And I was like, uh, well, this studio. I got
to find a way to come back here. You know,
the lobby, the wood is exposed. Can I stand in
poll of your thing the lobby so to look seriously,
I'm very serious. And Jeff was like, oh, that would

(05:41):
look nice. And I said, well, you know, can I
do it? And he was like all right, I'll give
you know, I'll give you money for the supplies. And
I stayed in poly ery thing the lobby and so
Scott was going on in the other rooms, and you know,
they would come out and leave the door open and

(06:03):
let me hear sometimes or I would, you know, go
in for a minute and to say, oh I like that.
And then eventually they gave me a tape and they
had seven songs on them, and those seven songs ended
up being on who is Joe Scott?

Speaker 6 (06:18):
And the Rain was after that? Right, I'm sorry, you said,
Will Smith. So I just automatically went to the rain.
It happened later okay.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
After after they started letting me write and then uh sing,
because I had to let him know I wasn't planning
on singing but I had to let him know how
it went, and they were like, oh, yeah, that was
that was good. Wait minute you sing?

Speaker 6 (06:37):
I was like, yeah, Joe would be ready in one
of them seven songs.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Be Ready came later. Damn, okay, be Ready came later.
I love that song.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
But the most amazing story I've ever heard, Mom.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
One thing we never talking about, like your voice? How
did you develop your voice? You said you didn't like
really sing in choirs or church or whatever. How did
you develop your style?

Speaker 1 (07:08):
I did sing at Girls High, but we sang classical
music primarily, and that just it just felt nice to me.
And then they sent me on some school trip and
I saw Kathleen Battle sing and was like, oh my god,
I didn't even know there was such thing as a
black opera singer, Like this is dope. And then I

(07:28):
mostly honestly, I just started being a mimic. I mimicked
Anita Baker, I mimicked philisheymon, Kathleen Battle mimicked her.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
That.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
I I think that is where it started. You know,
I didn't have any plans to sing at all. I'm
still amazed. I'm still like, what do you want me to?
What word? All right?

Speaker 4 (07:55):
Okay, So yeah, Jeff, he said the same thing about
He said, like, y'all first started working that and you can,
you know, tell me for stret He was saying that
they kind of had to convince you, I guess, to sing,
like you know, they were more so interested in doing
the poetry. But he was like, yo, what the hell, Like, nah,
you need to do that ship, you know what I'm saying.

(08:15):
He was kind of pushing you.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
To do it.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Yeah. Yeah, he was definitely a motivating force. And then
I think when I when I started singing in front
of people, this was before that. I mean yeah, this
was before Hit a Touch of Jazz or Hitting Beach
or any of that. Richmond, Dina and I we were
sitting outside my house and normally and things had gone

(08:40):
real bad. I knew all, iknew, all the crackheads. Nobody
ever bothered me. You know, somebody would like try to
run up on me or whatever, and then they sing
it like oh hey Jill, and if they were real hot,
like Jill Jill, you know right, you know, they got
to give you a double double name. That's right, right,

(09:01):
what's something? Or mayor then some guy pulled up on
us and tried to rob us sitting in front of
my house and shot at us. Actually, Richard pulled off
and the guy shot at us, and everything I think
was different. We had a poetry reading the next day

(09:22):
and I went to it in my pajamas because I
couldn't figure out how to put clothes on. Like, my
safety was gone. Everything I knew that was my own,
this is my hood, these are my crackheads, this is
my drug dealers, this is my block. You know, I'm
safe was gone. And I instead of writing or reciting

(09:44):
the poem I had written, I just started singing. And
that was that was a beginning. Must have been two No,
couldn't have been two thousand and probably ninety eight, ninety yeah,
probably like ninety eight, gotcha. And that's when I was like,

(10:04):
I think I could do this. You know, I probably
could do this. I'll just try to be a writer
because Lord knows, I don't want to be famous.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
And so what was that like? Well, first of all,
there's a question I had about your block. The house
that the video to Long Walk is connected to. Is
that your childhood home? Yes, And the same house is
getting in the way.

Speaker 5 (10:32):
You're just sitting in front the.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
One that I came out of for getting in the
way is across the street from my house. I passed
my house right and the one that I was sitting
on the steps for a long Walk, that's a neighbor's.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
I gotta say the intro to long Walk, no Philly
Strong the intro yeah, well, no, no, no, I don't even
mean the video. Of course the video too, because you're
smiling all that stuff, but that the ten second, the
first fifteen seconds of long Walk. The song is probably

(11:06):
like I have like my top five happy adrenaline moments,
like things I have to hear if I need to
like get in a mood of happiness or whatever. Long
Walk and herb Alberts Route one oh one or those
two songs, which is where.

Speaker 4 (11:23):
To come.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Don't look up herb Alberts.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
People associated that with the dentist office happy song, But yeah, man,
it's something that like.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Do you ever get tired of.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
People's fandom of because I feel as though they don't
give your entire catalog a fair shot. Only because I
think that sort of like your association with the Whiz,
I think the sentimental attachment to discovering you as an artist,
as a fan discover you as an artist? And what

(12:02):
the soundtrack of that album for everyone in two thousand,
like it was perfect because no one saw it coming,
and to me, nobody saw it coming. Like literally on
I'll say the soundtrack to the Voodoo Tour was like
just playing it every twenty four to seven. If I'm

(12:23):
not playing it, Anthony Hamilton's playing in the back even
you know, D'Angelo is so retro, like he wouldn't dare
listen to anything older than like thirty years Like even
he's rocking that shit because no one is expecting it.
Like how how was it the first go round in
your taste of celebrity and your relationship with your family,

(12:47):
your relationship with your friends, and I might have to
move out of this neighborhood like separation?

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Can you come back?

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Is?

Speaker 2 (12:56):
What's Thanksgiving?

Speaker 1 (12:57):
Like?

Speaker 2 (12:57):
In Thanksgiving two thousand and one? Like what was it?

Speaker 3 (13:00):
What was it like the first year and a half
that after that album came out?

Speaker 1 (13:05):
Well it I could say there were a lot more
people at the family reunion than they ever.

Speaker 5 (13:11):
Showed up for sure.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
The story.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
Yeah, man, I didn't expect anything, so I got way
more than I expected because I wasn't expecting anything, but
Lizella and I were living together and uh and our
little second floor walk up and people were riding by
playing the music at three, four o'clock in the morning,

(13:38):
you know, just highest capacity, just so loud, and I
at first, honestly, I was blown I just was blown away.
I didn't expect anything, so I was really didn't know
how to take it, didn't didn't know what to feel
about it either. Oh, it just started to hurt.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
In what way.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Because people there were the presumption that they knew everything
about me or who I was instead of just meeting me,
and that hurt. It hurt me, Like I've got right,
I heard I know her from this to that. She's
like this, so she's like that, and I'm like, I'm

(14:22):
still growing, I'm still figuring it out. I I don't know.
I'm out here trying to live.

Speaker 5 (14:29):
And you still have.

Speaker 6 (14:30):
And they gave you the earthy label too, which for
us at black radio, trying to play your radio, play
your song, we were trying to make people understand the
difference in earthy and neo soul people and regular old folks,
and the fact that they were regular old folks.

Speaker 5 (14:43):
She wrote a song about beating a bitious ass like
why can't.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
She be There's nothing conscious about this.

Speaker 5 (14:52):
But they put you in that bubble.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Bubbles happened. You know. I didn't like that either. I
just didn't like the world thing and that they knew
who or what or why I was even here before
I did. You know, I'm still figuring it out twenty
years later. You know, who is Jill Scott? So much
has changed, you know, it's way different than it was
last year. You know, I'm a mother of eleven year old.

(15:17):
Now that's way different from ten. I don't care who
you talk to.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
You talk now.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Aren't you them teaching me handy? They have to? You know,
we're in the middle of a pandemic. What does that mean?
Who do I become in the middle of a pandemic?
Or who does anybody become? You know, I still like
simple things, no matter how fancy my life may appear.
I still hug trees. I think they're the bomb.

Speaker 5 (15:46):
I do argument about you being earthy, but that's fine.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
That's what I flirt with them. You know, I'm still
very very simple in these ways, and I treasure that
about myself. Take it all with a grain of salt.
All the time, all the time. I don't need I don't.
I don't need the athlete so much. What I need
is to be able to pay all my bills. I

(16:12):
need to be able to go on vacations and enjoy them.
I need to be able to help my people where
I can. I need to be able to not worry
that I'm headed back where it came from, because I
don't want to go. I don't want to be shot at.
I don't I don't want to have to fend off,
you know, crackheads trying to shoot at me. I don't
want that light.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
So you have nightmares of one day this could be
over and I'll be back at twenty third and blah
blah blah.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
I have nightmares of not having food in the pantry.

Speaker 7 (16:42):
That is.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
That's a big one. I remember that. It comes from
quite some time where neighbors Jehovah witnesses particularly, were coming
by dropping off baskets of food because we didn't have any.
And I'm you know, it's not like I'm really pulling

(17:03):
out a violin for sad songs. This is my existence,
this is my life, and these are the things that
keep me grounded. I know that it only.

Speaker 8 (17:13):
Takes one wrong phrase or one wrong song, or one
wrong role, or you know, to have to have a
society cancel you or or shoe you away and not value.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
You, know, what you bring to the table. I don't
think that I'm the greatest singer. I think that I
offer a lot of spirit. I think that whatever if
it's passion or lust, if it's if it's fear or
pain or happiness, simple joys, whatever they may be, thought
process when I sing, you can hear that. And that's

(17:49):
my gift. I'm able to convey emotions well.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
And I'm aware now you you do that well, and
you I always want to tell you this, like you
really played a big role, probably unknowingly for me. I
was doing the session with Jeff like some years ago,
and it was a little brother song and me and
Pooh we were driving up the Delaware and we had

(18:13):
in our mind, okay, it's rapt the rap rap time.
We about to damn wrap this nig under the table,
you know what I'm saying. And so were just like,
all right, this rap the rap rap, And so we
get to the spot and Jeff is just playing like
all these kind of R and B records you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
And they were dope.

Speaker 4 (18:29):
I mean, the shit was dope, but it was not
what we expected, you know what I mean. And so
we ended up doing the song where pooh rhymed, and
I mean I ended up singing on it. And so
I was just singing because Jeff had to catch your
flight and stuff, and so I'm just kind of cutting vocals,
not really thinking about it. And so I came out
to booth and I was like, Jeff had this look
on his face. I thought I had fucked up. I said, Man,

(18:50):
what's wrong? He was like, man, you need to be
singing all this time. You need to be singing. I
was like, Jeff, Dude, I just kind of did it
because that's what we had. I don't really want to
do it. He was like, man, you know who the
same you know who else said that? You know who
else said that same ship. I was like, who he said?

Speaker 2 (19:04):
Jill?

Speaker 4 (19:05):
And I was like, damn, like word and he said
at that time that he told me, he said, man,
and sometimes people can see things in you that you
don't see in yourself.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
He was like, bro, you got something keep doing.

Speaker 4 (19:15):
And that's something that I always always just wanted to
share that with you. You know you really When I when
I heard when when he heard when I heard him
say that Jill Scott didn't think she was a good singer,
I said, well, nigga got damn. Everybody must say they
voice then, because I love your voice, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 2 (19:35):
But that was that was really that was really inspiring
to me. Jill.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
What is your preparation for acting and how different how
does it differ to your preparation for singing and songwriting?
Like what's your creative process? Are you meditation?

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Is it? Like? What's what's your creative approach to it?

Speaker 1 (20:00):
Probably terror is the first step for me, Like I
just don't want to fuck up so bad. I don't
want to be the weak link in the room. I
don't that. That's like, I just don't want that.

Speaker 5 (20:13):
What was the first one, Jie?

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Was it?

Speaker 5 (20:14):
Why did I get married?

Speaker 8 (20:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (20:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (20:17):
And the first TV show was Girlfriends and Marlbrock I
killed gave me an ARC. She had never even seen
me act before and gave me an ARC. And I
was like, come on, God, like, I'm just like out
here blessed like crazy, and it's like ridiculous goodness, gracious anyway,

(20:38):
how do I prepare like versus it's terror? And then
there's homework, because so I could be prepared, and I
study a lot, a lot. I try to take walks
where I can and be still where I can, and
then I need to move my body, you know, so
that I could feel that person you know in me

(20:59):
around me. And then the famous line is to be
that guy. That's it, be that guy at all costs,
whatever that means.

Speaker 6 (21:14):
Who challenged you the most in his acting journey, like
as far as like direction.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Anthony Miguela, he was he directed the talent in mister Ripley. Okay,
I think in the Piano lesson Cold Mountain.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
HBO series. Correct.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Yes, he auditioned me six times, Yes, for hours. It
was the most gruesome experience. At some point I was like,
fuck you either you want me or you don't, Like
I can't keep coming here, or I need you to
come tomorrow. Come to New York tomorrow, dude, like I

(21:56):
have other things that I have to do. Seriously, you
gotta know by now if you want me or not.
And his auditions were brutal. Okay, say the lines and
now your your left rib is cracked. Go okay, say
the lines and now you have something stuck in your
right eyelash. Go now say the lines and your you

(22:17):
can't stop, you can't stop drooling.

Speaker 5 (22:20):
Go wow, that sounds good.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
He had obstacle after obstacle after challenge after it, instruction
or I.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
Don't know what he was doing, but being Anthony Miguela,
the man won like eight oscars exactly.

Speaker 6 (22:37):
And you were the first black woman to help to
lead a HBO series.

Speaker 5 (22:40):
So ship, Yeah, it wasn't going to be either. Yeah,
welcome in Front.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
I was. I was really hurt when I didn't win
an nua a c P image word for that role.
I was really hurt because I shot that ship. I was.
I left there seven months pregnant. We worked in one
hundred and seventeen degrees casually and right on location in

(23:06):
Botswana for seven months. And yeah, three months the first time,
four months the next time. And I was just like,
I shot a show about Africa, you know, even though
it's fictional.

Speaker 6 (23:24):
In Africa, and you lived it every birthday, and now
you're playing them where they usually play us exactly.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
Well, if they get the opportunity, which is a real treasures.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Take you to have that accent comfortably.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
We they I had was studying an hour day every
day for two months, and then when I got there,
it was all wrong. They gave me a zim accent
and not a Mutsuana accent.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Whoa. So I had to learn everything.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Unlearned everything and relearn it real fast. And the Mutswana women,
the elder women would sit around and if I got
something wrong, they go ah, and I was like, this
asked not the sound that I wanted to hear. I
did not want to let them down in any way.
And then when I got stuff right, you hear them go.

Speaker 8 (24:16):
My gay, you're.

Speaker 4 (24:23):
Live for my gall was what happened? What happened with
the show? Why did they only do one passed away?

Speaker 2 (24:28):
Right?

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Yes? He did, Yes he did. He was he was
so brilliant, and I thought that he was a flirt.
I didn't know what was going on. He was so touchy,
like stop touching me all the time. I don't like it.
I smacked him because I was like, it's too much.
I don't know what you're doing. And then his wife
came and I had an opportunity to see them together,

(24:52):
and I realized, oh my god, he's not flirting. He's Italian,
he's just he's just he's just loving and a Italian.
And then after that our relationship just you know, flew.
You know, he was brilliant, and it was Sidney Pollack
who was the executive producer, and Harvey Weinstein was tada. Yeah,

(25:16):
so Sydney passed away first and then Anthony passed soon after.
You know, I tried to get the show to continue,
but nobody was really interested. I don't know. I thought
it was because the show was too positive. You know,
there wasn't a bunch of disease and murder and you know,

(25:39):
war and aids. You know, it's just people being people
in Africa, you know what I'm saying. Like it was destruction,
it wasn't enough death in destruction. So you know, this
sweethearted show couldn't continue.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Are there any ideas that you would like to develop.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
For Oh, yeah, there's one like no, but I've had
my finger on one for quite some time after a
few times trying to get somebody to pick it up.
But it looks like I'm going to have to make
a phone call to YOA and I'm I'm working on

(26:26):
it now and I'm it's the right thing to do.
With all my heart. It's the right thing to do.
Wonderful story. How is it?

Speaker 5 (26:37):
What was involved me?

Speaker 1 (26:39):
She just told me it's involving you because I'm going
to call you and ask you for some money. I'm
also going to call you and ask you for some insight.

Speaker 4 (26:52):
No, I don't know, some trust for money or something.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
Seeing with you right now? Trust money. She wouldn't be.

Speaker 5 (27:05):
At least not as.

Speaker 4 (27:09):
It'd be a special guests episode, Like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
This is a very special project, and I know that
I'm going to have to put in a lot of guts,
a lot of guts.

Speaker 5 (27:26):
Is ready?

Speaker 1 (27:27):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Is it TV? Is it movie?

Speaker 1 (27:29):
Like?

Speaker 2 (27:29):
What what kind of project?

Speaker 1 (27:30):
It's a film film?

Speaker 5 (27:32):
Yeah, A mer is ready. He's he's receiving well these days.
Look at them.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
He owes you for keeping you in Paris in the
hotel he left.

Speaker 4 (27:41):
You're standing in a halfway house. They was at them,
They was at the rich call and they had you
in the loking to and ship.

Speaker 5 (27:50):
And you know, for a year after that, he was like,
what happened?

Speaker 1 (27:55):
I'm trying to tell you, Gosh, I was so scared.
I was so scared.

Speaker 4 (28:02):
I was like, oh they fight.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Over what did crush you?

Speaker 1 (28:15):
It all works out, It really does.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
One thing. One thing I always wanted to ask you.

Speaker 4 (28:22):
Some of my favorite songs of yours are always just
your short kind of interlude songs like Crown Royal and
Hear My Hear My Call.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
I think that's right.

Speaker 4 (28:30):
I just those are just gorgeous fucking songs like what's
your thought process and just making them short versus like
full you know, I guess, verse, chorus, bridge, whatever kind
of songs.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
I think when it's done, it's done. I just I
just feel that way, like, when it's done, it's done.
Keep I could, you know, keep forcing the issue. But
you know, when you bust the nuts, you did it,
you know necessary, you don't necessarily have to do back
for it should be like that's what it was?

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Is it all right? Can I ask for hear My Call? Specifically?

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Is yeah, that was you? That was your idea?

Speaker 5 (29:14):
Oh he was startupocratic go I get it?

Speaker 2 (29:18):
No, not even is it still draining and emotional for
you to sing it?

Speaker 3 (29:23):
Or do you have a she's out of my life
relationship with it now where it's like you can phone
it in if you want to like what if there's
a night where you're just not in the mood to
rock that song, but you know that there's expectations to
or I've just never seen a song in which people
are boohoo crying anytime. And I've seen you probably like

(29:45):
seven times in concert, yeah, and mostly in the back row.
Now because I'm sorry about that. Somehow they placed me
like dead row, front row center, like Jill's first Philly
show's horrible.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
I'm sorry. See No, I'm just saying I won't do
that to you. I'll try to make sure that they
don't do that for it.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
No, No, I went to the back road because it
was like, you don't.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Want to be in the front row.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
I was in the front road, dead center, in front
of you, and I was like, oh god, why am I?
My point is, you're the reason why you're such an
amazing performer is because it's it's it's heartfelt, and it's
believable and it's authentic. That song, in particular, breaks people's

(30:34):
hearts so much every time they hear it. Are there
times where you're just like, Nope, no more, I'm not
doing this anymore, like smells like teen Spirit.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
They well, the audiences in Europe, they typically won't leave
until I see it. They will not leave no matter
what I say, no matter how many lights come on.
They're waiting for it. And I saw ridiculous. I could
barely finish. Or damn it, you know, I those are

(31:04):
the town Why did you? Why did you write that?
Why did you say that? Why damn it? And then
record it and have the audacity to put it on
a project so other people can hear it. But I
feel like that's the work.

Speaker 4 (31:19):
You know.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
You want people to smile randomly or you know, flirt
or be or feel in love, feel it, you know,
and if you need to to mourn something, there should
be music for that too. There's music for cooking, there's
music for cleaning. You know, there's there's all this good music.

(31:39):
Luckily for us. You know, humanity and music we're so connected.
And I struggle with that. You know, I typically sotob
myself and then you know, it's a whole audience full
of teers and it just is what it is. And
you know that means there's hugs to be given because

(31:59):
I need to feel better and so to you. So
you know, I typically come out and then you know,
before COVID. You know, we hell each other. It's just,
you know, it's not my favorite to do the sad songs,
but I'm here for it, and apparently audience for too.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
Man.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
I think it's well written. I have to give myself
some credit on that. I think that my pen definitely
poured out my heart at that time.

Speaker 5 (32:31):
Can you sing your songs, Jill?

Speaker 1 (32:32):
You think I can't sing everybody songs? No, I mean
a song written by someone else. Yeah, I can sing
a song written by somebody else for me.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
If it's for you, it's got yeah. Okay, Okay, I
have a question. Okay, first, let me give your flowers
for Rolling Hills. I love that song to I hope
that's one. Maybe it'll be one of the ones for
versus you know, well, we'll see. But I love I
love that fucking song.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
It's so hard to choose because they're, you know, they're
asking me for twenty of my favorite songs, and I'm like,
my my favorites are kind of obscure, like I don't know.

Speaker 6 (33:11):
I'm going on the danger zone, the danger zone, just
the danger zone. When when the artist picks out all
these songs and don't realize that these have nothing to
do with people.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Love but the people, and then you.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Realize that for the record label, you go, oh yeah,
I don't have one of those.

Speaker 5 (33:29):
I'm just saying what you're thinking and not Oh.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
My masters are masters?

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Yes, your masters? Wow? Dope, Yes, okay, amazing.

Speaker 4 (33:41):
Other question I had so hate on me? Yeah that
song about.

Speaker 5 (33:51):
Yeah forgot Yes.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
Shut up, we have a conversation.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
Not at all the turmoil and danger I've brought to
your life.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Man, I'm sorry, it's not true. It's not true at all.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
That was Thompson.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
That would be hilarious.

Speaker 5 (34:14):
It wanted to be such a mild, like no seating version.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
That would be hilarious, surviving Beard Toms.

Speaker 5 (34:29):
Just I'm just joking.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
God, Just what was her guitar player's name? We're in
the hell.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
That was Dan was the guitar player.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Wait a minute, you're telling me she married Dan.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
She's just not married Dan. Somebody I believe you right
now is in uh Brighton, Brighton, England. Last time I
spoke to her, she was is dating.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
All right? Who's singing that duet with Nana Cherry seven seconds? Uh?
The African singer?

Speaker 3 (35:11):
Yes, like Nana Cherry's last big hit in like nineteen
ninety eight. Uh uh yols door, Oh that's what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Yeah, I used to endure. That was your caricature moment.
I didn't know you're speaking of tugs. That was amazing,
Yeah it was. It was used to do it. Yeah,
she was dating him. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
Like the last I heard, she was doing something with Spike,
maybe a commercial with Spike.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
But I don't care who she's dating.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
I haven't heard from i'n't heard from news probably since
Rich died. No, that's the last time I talked to her.

Speaker 5 (35:51):
Come on, man, what's the black Lily?

Speaker 8 (35:53):
Now?

Speaker 1 (35:54):
He loved her?

Speaker 5 (35:56):
You know we need one.

Speaker 6 (35:57):
That was a great experience. Black Lily was awesome. Why
do you say we could.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
Use black Lily? Just you just need to sign and
says all egos at the door, All egos at the door,
same everything and all egos yeah door, it'd be great, dude.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
I mean, if I know, I fucking Tracy knew, I
mean Tracy Mercedes, like I see him all the time,
we do.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
It can happen. It's just so great.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
There's some Lily that.

Speaker 6 (36:34):
Oh you know they might wrap not saying, okay, all right,
I don't know, I'll just be throwing names out there.

Speaker 5 (36:39):
I'm a slop. Yeah, okay, Jasmine down though, I don't know, so.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
We good.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
But we're talking about Black Lily.

Speaker 6 (36:49):
That's what I'm Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Jasmine is
Black Lily Asian forteen. That's Black Lily.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
Agent performed the Black Lie. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (36:56):
Well you know then they yeah, they they would have ones.
They really.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
As like by the time the first draft of Black
Lily went on to like get record deals and stuff,
they were like the they were like it was like
toy story. They were the broken toys left behind and
they all grouped up super powered and then became.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
And I was like, yo, what the happened? Like they
started kicking our ass.

Speaker 5 (37:26):
They were who you look forward to singing every week
and next thing you know.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
You're amazing.

Speaker 5 (37:31):
Yeah, they just pick up the kindred the family.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
So they're amazing. So we were. And they went to
Hidden Beach.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
They did they.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
Forgot.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
Yeah, so what happened with Hitten Beach from your perspective,
because just from a consumer side, they had you and
like we were like, yes, Jill, like that was it
was all Jojo Jail.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Then they did the it was Brenda Russell they did.

Speaker 4 (37:59):
That, they did, Yeah, it was a Paris range and
then unroped Value one through eight.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Yeah, So, like, what was your experience with them?

Speaker 4 (38:11):
How that relationship I guess kind of deteriorated on your side,
it did.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
I thought that they had some really good artists on
their Hidden Kendred being one of them. They you know,
that's Kendred, and they're so talented and the songwriting is
so good and their stage performance is so amazing. You
need to put more money into Kendred. But I didn't
have a say in what Hidden Beach did because they're
the label. I'm not the label, and I didn't like that.

(38:41):
I didn't like that, and that didn't feel good to
me that I couldn't be of service in that way.
You know. I watched them sign a lot of artists
and I was like, what are you doing? What are
you doing? And I thought I thought that we had
a friendship. I thought that we had this this family
thing that was happening. So when I realized it was

(39:02):
just business, you know, I was really disappointed. And then
President Obama was I was working on being in office
and everything was about the election, and they weren't being supportive,
and I didn't feel like they were helping me at all.
With radio. I didn't realize until later on how much

(39:25):
everything that occurred had to do with my effort. So,
you know, I'm coming up with the album, I'm working
out the images, I'm you know, handing out flyers, I'm
you know, I did a lot coming up with every idea.
I designed the videos. The first, you know, three videos,
I was like, I'm dism what I do. I'm tired.

(39:46):
Can somebody else, you know, like I can't do it all?
And then you know, go to these I had pneumonia
I think like three times in two years because I
toured that first two year years without balance. That's one
of the things with young artists. I'm like, yes, absolutely,
go out there and do the hustle, but you have

(40:08):
to have a balance or you will lose your mind
and you will lose your health. And the goal is longevity.
It's Frankie Beverly, that Middler longevity out here, and that's
what I ready, that's what I'm saying, that's what I want,
That's what I want. And I thought I was killing
myself trying to, you know, make it work for the label.

(40:30):
And I was like, ah, so I left, and you know,
I think the last number was like they tried to
see me for like nineteen million?

Speaker 2 (40:40):
What under on what grounds that I left?

Speaker 1 (40:44):
That I was leaving? And I had a couple of
records too left on that Yeah, and yeah, I was
like family, huh.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
Yeah, because I saw Okay, yeah, okay, yeah, ni, let's
talk about it. Okay. So that ship they put out,
the Jill Scott when.

Speaker 5 (41:04):
They started putting out the duets.

Speaker 4 (41:05):
And ship, yea, yeah, like what was I mean that
felt kind of just as a fan, I'm like, yo,
this feel a little shady. But what was the story
behind it? The albums that they put out, the Hidden
Beach records that they put out.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
It certainly didn't feel good to me. And it wasn't
like I had any thing to say, you know, I
had no say so in them, you know, so you know,
moving on.

Speaker 6 (41:35):
So technically I'm just saying I just want to know
I'm doing this right. So technically, if I'm a real
Joe Scott fan, I buy up into the live album
and then the rest of the.

Speaker 4 (41:47):
All right, yeah, okay, more Okay, I like this son anyway.
I like, like, yeah, Joe Hudson, that's my nigga, Like
he's fucking dope of that record.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
Yeah, yes, you're talking about Crown Royal, Crown Royal Imagination.
I love that song and the song I did with
George Benson. Whenever you're around. I love that song. Like
I'm gonna need somebody to call me because I just
love what I love.

Speaker 5 (42:19):
I can help you.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
I can help you now, I do. I do. This
is what I do. I mean, it's just battle rap,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (42:25):
So what about the four Hero song? You' all think
she should include that in there? Because I do.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
I love that song.

Speaker 4 (42:30):
I was about to ask you about that because Mark
Mack that's my nigga.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
But I love that song. I love that song.

Speaker 4 (42:38):
Man. I think that the way you plan your verses is,
first off, you gotta think of what the other artist's
biggest songs are and think count that way what you're
gonna counter it with. Yeah, that's how you Okay, So y'all,
if you already know her Haymakers, if you already know
her Haymakers, then you know then what is what I
can do? And you got to think of your songs
that you can use to Haymaker to get her to

(43:00):
drop some bullshit.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
You know.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
But you got to understand that I'm thinking about the
my audience, like my the people that come to my shows,
like they they know ship, they know shit and can't
wait for that moment.

Speaker 4 (43:16):
But you but this though, I say, you can't think
about your audience. You kind of gotta almost think of
the demographic that's gonna be on I g Live and
it may or may not be the same people. So
it's like you gotta think about it from the standpoint
of like all right, because I was talking about this
on Twitter the other day, it's like who picking a winner?
And I put that in very loose quotation marks because

(43:36):
I mean, we love both of y'all, and so there's.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
No thank you.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
I mean, no, no one loses.

Speaker 4 (43:42):
I mean this is a celebration, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
It's for the culture word.

Speaker 5 (43:50):
Yeah, I know what.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
I love the way the Riza and DJ Premier did theirs.

Speaker 6 (43:54):
I think that's my favorite one, being Teddy Riley at jail.
Right now, it's all about me, And so what I
want to say to Jill because I don't know if
she's aware. But you do know that Erica is up
on her Techi ship right now, right like she's got
her own streaming service.

Speaker 5 (44:09):
She's performing in bubbles and ship like that.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
Wait wait wait, like the energy you're bringing right now
is like instigating.

Speaker 5 (44:15):
No no, no, no, no, this is fuck. I love
both of them. I love both of me. I mean,
Jill's my sister, but I love both of the music. Whatever.

Speaker 6 (44:22):
What I'm saying is that I just want her to
understand who she's playing against, because I don't know if
she's been, you know, paying attention, she's been in her
COVID world. So I'm just saying that Erica is gonna
come with technology. And do you think, Amir Fonte, Bill
Steve that Jill should fight back with.

Speaker 4 (44:37):
Yeah, listen, all you have to do is, Jill, listen.
Here's the thing about versus. All right, here's the mentality
of versus. And it's all right, yeah, here's here's our
unsolicited corner, your corner.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
People.

Speaker 4 (44:53):
You need to Okay, so listen, here's the thing. The
thing that makes versus work. Versus is all about Yo.
These rich niggas are stuck in their crib looking at
their phone, just like us.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
That's what makes it work, like, that's the draw. The
draw is.

Speaker 4 (45:13):
We're looking at celebrities and people who have done all
these great things. They're stuck inside their homes and this
is entertainment for us just as it is for them.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
I'm not fucking famous. I'm just I'm regular.

Speaker 4 (45:28):
But anyway, So so that's the thing, So hold on, well.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
I certainly will.

Speaker 4 (45:36):
So the thing is you can take it to your car,
like you can play records in your car if you
want to. Anything that makes it look more intimate and
makes it feel more like the audience.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
Is like us.

Speaker 5 (45:50):
Yeah, on the mountaintop.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
So it in your kitchen, and.

Speaker 4 (45:55):
That ship is gonna be like, Nigga, why are you
in the bubble on the mountaintop?

Speaker 2 (45:58):
I have.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
I have another thing that add to it, sensing you
might need a quasi haymaker that isn't below the belt,
I would actually have.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
This is bad. I say.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
That when she hits you, I think, when she hits you,
she has three haymakers.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
Tyrone's one of them. I feel like one is one
of them. On the other side of the game.

Speaker 4 (46:32):
Now, okay, I would say, I don't think the other side.
I think the other side is one I would say
more so next lifetime like that.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
So my thing is when she hits with Tyrone, whatever
you play next, I wish you had a TV track
version of it, and you say it live here.

Speaker 5 (46:54):
You go too much.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
Technical elements, she writes, you're doing too much.

Speaker 5 (47:06):
Paper Bill said it, paper doing.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
You're doing too much. People just want to see you
drop the jams. They want to see you drop the jam.

Speaker 6 (47:12):
I will say, if you pick up your judget teddy
roddy guitar.

Speaker 5 (47:17):
Just start saying things with your voice outside of adding
technical things. Because yeah, but you will, Jill, that's a
fucking haymaker. Your voice is.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
I'm saying, but that's the thing live.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
If she just whatever device, if there's Fender Road, if
there's a Fender off Fender Road's version of He Loves Me.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
And she does that ship live, okay, I will throw
my phone.

Speaker 4 (47:42):
No, because that's the thing, like, because when I was
doing I've kind of been doing like cards for all
these battles. The thing with Erica, Okay, Erica has to
survive Jill's first If She's survived Jill's first album and Golden,
she might have a chance. The only problem is that, Jill,
your first album, and I said this on Twitter, your
first album is.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
A fucking mind feel. Anything you can drop, You can
drop something off that ship.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
She can drop the entire album, like strategically, you can
drop honey molasses and just be like, you know what
I mean, like for real, for real, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 4 (48:17):
So the thing is like the big ones you would
have to worry about Erica, Yeah, mirrors right, Tyrone is
her haymaker, h Tyro. I think Tyrone will be that
on and on next slight Time and Baduism as much
as Baduism is a classic and I love it and
I still you know, Baduism is very top heavy.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
All the smoke is on Satday like side B is.
I mean, there's nothing bad on.

Speaker 4 (48:39):
It and it's remember no Nigga, That's where all the
smoke is.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
That's where the smoke at. But who is Jill Scott
like nigga? That album?

Speaker 4 (48:49):
Nigga from one to god damn slowly, surely it ain't
not one miss on that whole so.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
She got damn.

Speaker 6 (48:58):
Let me ask you just what are the outside of
album cuts that Jill should be including in the burs okay,
this d this day it nah.

Speaker 4 (49:11):
Dream No, don't dream because because that because to the audience,
one that wasn't like it wasn't a big record. Like
so it's like this, you got jams. I'm listening the best,
the work.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
Best to stay out of all of this, and but.

Speaker 5 (49:29):
You're in it now, so.

Speaker 4 (49:43):
You're not jam all right, listen, you better hit them niggas.
That got them crying, roy because because thing is here
my hear my call?

Speaker 2 (49:52):
That could be a haymaker for you.

Speaker 4 (49:55):
Like I think if we're talking haymakers like Golden, I
think it's probably like the haymaker, like you ain't getting
up from that whenever you drop that, because that's just
that was a monster. But don't waste Golden, don't know,
don't waste it. No, no, no, So you gotta go
hear my call. You got Crown Royal, you got rolling heels,
you got damn. What's on the second album Golden? I like, no, no, no,

(50:18):
but it's another what's the one? I like Spring Summer Feeling.
I don't know if I.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
Would you I like that one? Whenever?

Speaker 5 (50:25):
Yeah, what.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
My love is sweeter?

Speaker 4 (50:28):
They're tighter like yeah, nigga, yeah you got that.

Speaker 5 (50:33):
Better at Home, don't sleep on Better at Home.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
I didn't like that.

Speaker 4 (50:37):
I love that terrible uh sweet yeah sweet summer feelings
about your music right now?

Speaker 5 (50:43):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (50:45):
That?

Speaker 2 (50:45):
Oh God? Really so that.

Speaker 4 (50:52):
Here's the thing, here's the breakdown, and you can just
use this information however you want. This is the thing
with between like with Erica and Jail Battle. So like
Erica is more so like your your career, Jill, you've
kind of leaned more into like the adult like contemporary
what would be like urban ac kind of lane Erica's

(51:13):
records over the last couple of years, her last few records,
she's kind of going deeper, more just in the hip
hop and kind of being I think a little more experimental.
But the thing with that is it just kind of
depends on demographics. So to the contingent of people that
I refer to as the Ascot Battalion Acas. The last

(51:34):
two albums, Yeah, the rolland Mard like them, the Boulet Niggas,
Erica's last two records didn't really connect with them.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
They don't know like.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
New America, them niggas lost video they know just but
that's it.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
But that's it.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
There of people in the world. There's a lot of
people listening period. You don't know who's WHATSS.

Speaker 4 (52:02):
But for versus, that's the thing, right, it's the it's
one thing if we're fighting.

Speaker 6 (52:08):
Yeah, I say, Jill Niggas sorry and Bill even Steve
doesn't make an attempt.

Speaker 3 (52:13):
So anyway, that's our unsolicited advice.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
Yea, we will give it. Erica the same advice, just
to be equal.

Speaker 4 (52:23):
Yeah, because you like your catalog you got, I think
you have more in the tank than she is. And
if you can get her to play her big cards early,
I think you're just gonna win just off being able
to go the distance alone.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
I think Erica would.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
Actually try to play her eccentric cards. I don't think
she'll play the obvious cards. I bet you on and
on won't even come until.

Speaker 4 (52:48):
Like Layton Layton, Yeah, that would be smart. I mean,
you know, but but then, but what she gonna play
before that? I mean, like she's gonna play Gone Baby
Don't Belong, which I love that song.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
But I mean you're you're about.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
You're talking about one of my favorite artists.

Speaker 5 (53:03):
Okay, but you'll back.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
It appears to be the case.

Speaker 5 (53:11):
Where's the north.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
A rights? This is the right attitude, don't. We don't
want to.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
We don't even want to imply that we're leaning one
way or the other.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
No, it's not a cat fight. I don't want to.

Speaker 5 (53:24):
I want to be an equal playing field, is all
I'm saying. That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (53:28):
That's what I'm It's gonna be a great We're here
to celebrate both of y'all.

Speaker 5 (53:33):
If you start to singing live and ship is a win.

Speaker 3 (53:36):
I'm just going.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
But the thing is, you know me, I'm I'm really
organic about all the stuff that I do, you know
what I mean, Like, I want to be honest, and
if it comes to that and I feel like I
feel like singing, then that's what's gonna happen. Yes, right, Oh,
I feel.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
Ever, you know, really be dirty, you know, really you.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
Know you're singing Erica's song? Go Erica song was on?
Which one? I mean, I'm trying today. What you think
Erica would ever play the next lifetime?

Speaker 1 (54:17):
She wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
If she's smart, she will better.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
Play that ship.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
Certainly, certainly, Oh you think Jill singing certainly?

Speaker 6 (54:24):
Because that ain't technically so you could certainly it's not
her song, not just certainly, Oh, now, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
You can't.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
You can't.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
Don't think I'm in the house with with with beams.

Speaker 5 (54:37):
And saying when you said you made that suggestion, did
she look.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
At you crazy? Y'all living for a war. She's looking
for a celebration, celebration.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
I want to be clear, it is a celebration. We're celebrating.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
A war.

Speaker 3 (54:56):
I know you.

Speaker 5 (54:56):
You're hugging the tree right exactly, You're hugging the tree
right now.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
Trees.

Speaker 4 (55:01):
You need help putting your playlist together, Jill, hit me up.
I will gladly curate help you whatever, like, just as
because because we all need it, like as a fan,
as an artist, like we have our favorites. But then
it's like, okay, what resonated with the people, and sometimes
that may not be the same thing. So if you
just need an outside perspective, I gladly offer my services.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
As I know that you'all are friends and sisters and whatnot,
but I don't mean that in this battle we got
to be like, sister, I.

Speaker 6 (55:30):
Love you, I love you to girl, I love you girl.
I look, oh my god, please don't love me to.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Call it a battle.

Speaker 5 (55:35):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
We just want one round of mutual respect.

Speaker 5 (55:42):
Baby face, Jill, baby.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
Face, baby baby face. So he's shady face. He had
all the shade, all right. So that's that's it for
our unsolicited advice.

Speaker 3 (55:57):
Yes, thanks, and we only do because we love you
and we don't.

Speaker 5 (56:02):
It's not a shadow in a post game.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
It's a clebration.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
Yeah, you said, one one, one round of mutual respect
and then war.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
You know, make sure make sure no one has their
phones on using your Wi Fi when you do this.
Make sure everyone goes into airport mode so that you're
the only person using.

Speaker 6 (56:30):
What about that that SoundBite of the black party when
it goes Jill, are you.

Speaker 5 (56:37):
Saying candy to say I was joking?

Speaker 1 (56:40):
All right?

Speaker 3 (56:40):
All right, Jesus Christ, all right, Jill, No, I Jill.
I'm glad we have you know what you know, what
is weird? I wish you did have a new album
coming out twenty years later called.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
I Am Jill Scott.

Speaker 5 (56:57):
That's a good idea.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
I can't say enough how much you've literally changed my life.
And that was your first attempt. I'm never going to
get over that. Like I have a whole respect I
just oh, I just the fact is I need you.
I couldn't remember the second songs.

Speaker 4 (57:21):
That The fact is I need you because you said
staying probably your thing, nigga.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
You start with that over that was that's that's that
was a hard hitting hole right there, Carl.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
I didn't even have a baby, now what you was
doing things and make them.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
Anyway.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
The one in Paris is my favorite. Live in Paris,
in Paris, that's my favorite. Yeah, yeah, I love it.
I love I wanted. I wanted to go to Paris
so bad. I had a residency there and at the
Australian Opera House. It was it was happening. I was
so excited. Damn covid n what you.

Speaker 5 (58:13):
Was going to do? What about movies?

Speaker 1 (58:15):
Jill?

Speaker 5 (58:16):
Were you gonna you was.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
In the process of I mean, there's a there was
plenty of things. This was a this was a good
working year. We'll see what we'll see what happens later.

Speaker 3 (58:25):
But you know, on the other side of that coin,
this is there a refreshment. You know, there's a chance
to refresh and and get our creativity back and and
and rest.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
It's a deg reset man.

Speaker 4 (58:42):
Yeah, I want to ask you your We didn't talk
about your role in the James raw movie, Get On Up?

Speaker 1 (58:52):
M What about it?

Speaker 2 (58:57):
Was it a positive experience?

Speaker 4 (59:00):
Was it in terms of your growth as an actress?
Like did you feel that it was something that you,
you know, you had to rise to the challenge or
did it kind of feel like.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
Hands on you?

Speaker 4 (59:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (59:14):
Like that was.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
You didn't see it though, Wow, I didn't see he
didn't actually touch you. Didn't see him touch me. I
just made you think he did. But damn that that
that movie actually is. I'm just the one I wish
I could do over. I wish I could do that
one over.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
Really.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Yeah, I learned after what I should have done, and
I'm disappointed by that.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
What do you think you did wrong?

Speaker 1 (59:45):
I should have punched him in his mouth. I should
have fought him. I should have fast him.

Speaker 5 (59:51):
Is that what she did?

Speaker 1 (59:53):
Yeah? Damn I went with I went with what was
written and instead I should have I should have fought him.
And I'm disappointed, Like, I really wish I could go
back to do that over. So I learned again about
homework and how important it is to do the homework.
You know, so even if nobody else understands it, well,

(01:00:16):
you want everybody to understand it, but you have to
be be that guy. If that's the generals, be that guy.
I don't think I was that guy as much as
I would want to be. So that's the only role
I've had started like disappoints me.

Speaker 4 (01:00:32):
Did you think that not hitting him? Do you think
that made the character look weaker?

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Or like? What was your reason behind it?

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
I thought that she was so in love with him.
In fact, Dedie Brown is still in love with James
Brown today. She was so overwhelmingly in love with him that,
you know, that's the part that I highlighted. She was
just almost obsessed with him. But she did have some
spunk and some fighting her And I wish he had

(01:00:59):
punched him in the mouth. I wish I had allowed her,
you know, in the film the punishment mouth. He deserved
it and it would have represented her a little better
than than what I did.

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
So so you talked and interviewed with her and got
to know her as to develop.

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
Yeah, beforehand and.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
Encouragement of the director and the.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
Production that was that was on my own. I there
was a young man working on set. I can't remember
what he did, but he told me that that was
his grandmother, and I was like, you gotta you gotta
get me in touch with your grandma, you know, because
they were on the newlywat game together, so I got
a chance to see her ways, but I didn't get

(01:01:43):
a chance to It's on it's online, it's on YouTube.
I think. Yeah, they.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
Used to the seventies.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
They were real cute. They're real cute. They absolutely enjoyed
each other. But they thought. They definitely thought. And he
was whooping ass and I get I got it, like
I got it. You could. I could see how someone
could totally totally be like in love with this guy
and enjoyably suppressed. He's powerful. He's powerful man. That ain't

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for me to back bush in your sleep.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
Any for you? Any thoughts of writing your memoir?

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
I think about it often. I think people would be
completely surprised of how I got here and how I
am able to stay here. Yeah, I think about it often.
There's a lot good.

Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
Do you feel like the journey is still happening for
you to even start writing your memoir?

Speaker 7 (01:02:55):
If I just wrote the first fifteen years, if I
remember being in the womb, If I could write I
remember being in the womb, if I wrote the first
fifteen years of this existence, it would be crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
People would not believe any of it. It's half mythology
and folklore with these brilliant sprinkles of simple It's crazy.
My existence has been.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
You gotta do. You have to do it like James Taylor.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
James Taylor worked backwards, so he just released his life
between birth and twenty one, like maybe two months ago,
but you know, started with the end of his life.
Once he like rehabbed himself and got his life together.
Then the project before is like the hell he went
through as James Taylor, and then the real hell he

(01:03:53):
went through from childhood to twenty one that got him
to be a heroin Addict and all that stuff. Like
him telling the story backwards almost is cinematically maybe telling
your story backwards in that way.

Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
From zero to twenty one or I.

Speaker 3 (01:04:09):
Mean, I am to the fragments because I think people
feel like the need to release their entire life story
in one.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
I could do it. I could do it like maun Jelo.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
Okay pieces pieces.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
I think some pieces at the time. It's funny we're
having that conversation where we try to get like somebody's
whole life story on like an hour and.

Speaker 3 (01:04:33):
Start so well, Jill I thank you, uh for doing this,
and thank you for having me your artistry, and we
don't even have to call it Jill anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
For that's right.

Speaker 6 (01:04:47):
I still think she needs to do like a drunk Hollywood.
I'm trying to say holiday episode or something like in person.
I just a drunk holiday.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
We do oh man, Christmas, Jill Man, listen.

Speaker 4 (01:05:00):
I don't know about no more drunk, no more drunk.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
I don't want no more drunk other things, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:05:07):
Whatever, that's what we do too. We do that.

Speaker 6 (01:05:13):
Christmas upside down.

Speaker 4 (01:05:22):
I just for last music question. I know, Jill, okay,
it's a shame record. The A Group, yes, is that
you under? Or is that another group of singers?

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
Aren't they amazing? Oh god, I can't remember everybody's name,
it's been so long. I know one was Keisha ship.
I feel bad. The A Group they were singers that
sang together all the time and uh Keisha Renee and
I heard them. I was like, would you mind playing

(01:05:55):
with me? And they did? They were I just loved them.
They were incredible. I can't leave. I've forgotten all of
their names. It'll hit me later. And three three of them, yeah,
they they just were amazing. They reminded me very much
of the emotions. It's like, yes and Aretha Franklin's background singers,

(01:06:17):
you know.

Speaker 5 (01:06:18):
That they had that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
Which I needed.

Speaker 6 (01:06:22):
Since spont circle back to shame, I just want to say,
you and Eve, do y'all ever circle back and have
these conversations of how y'all are so connected?

Speaker 5 (01:06:35):
Okay? I was just we did okay, okay, we did.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
We shot with this ring together with Regina Hall and
Brooklyn south Dono, and we had a chance to just
kick it on, you know, kick.

Speaker 5 (01:06:49):
It every day.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
So we talked about it how that song changed our
lives and here we are these years.

Speaker 5 (01:06:56):
That's what I was inferring, but.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
Changes lives, that's what us. Look, that's what the roots do.
I mean. Without your guidance, I mean.

Speaker 5 (01:07:06):
Stop stop, take this compliment, Take this compliment, Take this compliment.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
Put that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
Without your guidance and your vision, you know, so many
artists wouldn't have a career right now, and you picked
artists that all have longevity and Josh, including yourself. Well,
when she did the video that was just like a
long walk. I was over her and.

Speaker 6 (01:07:27):
I was motherfucker. That was your one long mistake but
that's okay because we forgive you for what you have.

Speaker 5 (01:07:31):
Guest blessed us.

Speaker 4 (01:07:32):
What was just just you know. Yeah, and Rafaela dec
not for she did she did? She did a video
biiting a long walk exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
Oh yes, I was like.

Speaker 5 (01:07:48):
Shut up, the one that you playing in the drums
in the video.

Speaker 3 (01:07:51):
That's because at the time, my girlfriend asked me to
be in that video because she was the director.

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
Oh yeah, I don't know. You ain't a minute. She
was the director on With This Ring.

Speaker 6 (01:08:12):
Wow, And she's the director on my new favorite show
with Carrie Washington and Reese Brotherspoon.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
I'm watching that's watching it, but it's watching it is
kind of both. I'm both of those. Do you feel
like you're both of those women?

Speaker 6 (01:08:28):
And well, if I'm lucky enough to be reading, I
definitely feel Carrie's pain.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
But yeah, I see you feel like I'm I feel
like I'm both of them. And that's that's great, you know,
just being able to relate. I can see them both ends.
I think it's really cool. I love that show.

Speaker 5 (01:08:42):
Don't funk with their kids either way, don't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:46):
Don't do that.

Speaker 4 (01:08:47):
All right, So for the fourth time, last question, last
I have thank you, thank you, Jill, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
Yeah, that first, I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
It was it was Crow the day and wear my name.

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
Bill paid Bill, Hi, I want to work together, get her,
get her on Sesame Street.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
You haven't.

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
Yes, I've done Sesame Street. She cried most of the time.
Most of the time.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
So you worked with Bill, Okay, I wasn't there. This
was before my time.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
It was awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:09:24):
The music director, you gotta get Jill back on, says
the street to talk about being in the wound.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
I want to hear all about it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:34):
I said, if anything, if anything, she could probably do
the We try to do a loaf of bread and
a stick of butter with Solange and it didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
Air at all, Bill, it did it did? Finally signed
the release. Yeah somewhere Yeah. Oh, hold on, Okay, I
gotta watch that Jo.

Speaker 5 (01:09:57):
She's not gonna do ship did she did with somebody else?
She's gonta do our own s.

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
Oh that song is a staple, A little for bread,
contein of milk and a stick of butter. But at
the time I thought I thought SOLANGEX needed So I.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
Loved my experience on Sesame Street. It was wonderful. By
the time mister snuffle Up with Snuffle Up a Gus
walked out, I just I could not stop crying. I
was I couldn't stop crying. I was talking to.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
Like they were real.

Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
What's his name, Jesus, I'm terrible with names. Kevin. I
was talking to Kevin, the guy who was playing Elmo. Yes,
I was talking to the brother. We're just standing there wrapping.
He put Almo on his hand. I forgot the man
was there. Started hugging the man's hand in the puppet,

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talking only to the man who I forgot the man
was there. That's how magical it was. Just like boy,
it was great. I got in the I got in
the nest, I got in the trash can, I worked
in the store.

Speaker 5 (01:10:59):
I did it all.

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
I hung out the window.

Speaker 5 (01:11:02):
I did it all.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
She survived Street are the fiftieth anniversary on HBO? Has it?

Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
Sweet, okay, I gotta see it. You think you you
think you'll get married? Against you?

Speaker 5 (01:11:12):
Oh ship?

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
You think you will?

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
Is she joining us Coto the compound ship?

Speaker 5 (01:11:21):
You can big.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
Amir Henrickson.

Speaker 4 (01:11:32):
That man living in the House of Reclaimed, would he
living in his best life?

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (01:11:36):
I meant.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
Ladies, gentlemen, R and B.

Speaker 3 (01:11:42):
Yeah, Bill Dream and my third wife Jill Scott, Yes,
not me.

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
Hold on hold the second one, Grace, Oh who the
first one?

Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
I'll tell you it goes off the air anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
It's not so great. I'm your third wife.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
Oh it happens. Big love. Here we go. Living is
big love, not question.

Speaker 3 (01:12:23):
Nice but thank you, thank you for doing the show
on behalf of the entire team Supreme.

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
We say thank you and we will see you on
the next go radio and see you.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
Thanks guys, love.

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