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October 31, 2024 15 mins

Don't settle! Here's what to look for to avoid breadcrumbing, desperation, and disappointment.

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Speaker 1 (00:12):
So I want to talk about this a couple of
broad stroke dating concepts. Like I was talking to someone
yesterday and they were saying that their daughter has been
like bread crumbed a little. I didn't really, I mean,
I guess I know what it means. It's like you're
with a guy and he's giving you a little scraps
along the way. Bread crumb equals you're you're getting. You're
settling for less than what you deserve. I don't like

(00:33):
all this terminology that girls create to justify what's happening
and that they're going for it, Like it shouldn't have
gone far enough for it to be a name, because like,
I don't know why women habitually settle for less than
what they deserve. Women habitually date down. I really do

(00:54):
not think that men date down as much as women.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
I really don't.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
It's like a blank I'm making a blanket statement. I
just I just don't because women like appreciate men for
being animals, and so then they get to get away
with being animals. Imagine men being like appreciating a woman
being a fucking animal.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Like it's like they get to get away.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Oh yeah, he's just such a fucking guy leaves the
toilet seed up, he burps, he smells, it, doesn't shower,
he's dirty. He doesn't call me, but he's just like
we're just such fucking doormats sometimes, like you can't so
breadcrumbing equals And for those of you who don't know
what it means, it's like you're leaving little things along
the way. So like you call a girl and you

(01:32):
go out with her and you have a great time.
You tell her how pretty she is, but then maybe
like you only call her on Saturdays when you want
to go out, and you know, like or you tell
her she's so wonderful, but like she'll be really you're
not ready for that. It's not hurts you, and like
in a couple of months she'll be ready for her
because she's just too good for you.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Or like just stupid.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Shit it's with booty calling and like disguising it as
something else. It's just like and we just continually habitually settle.
And I just want to say something to you. If
you're settling, you're not going to be open to when
something really good could happen. And also settling, you could
be settling even by not settling for less than what

(02:10):
you deserve. You can end up with the same person.
It's called this is where the we wei pad is,
and this is where it's not. It's called training in
the beginning, Like in my dating I've dated guys that
are so good looking, so successful, so rich, and they've
been with hot girls and can get you know, most

(02:31):
of what a guy wants. And I've said this before
where like I really could be into them. But you
always have to be willing to walk if you're not
getting what you want. It doesn't mean you torch the
kingdom and scorched the earth. It means you see if
there are any good ingredients there, like can we work

(02:52):
with this? Like is this a total abomination of disrespect
or is this like you know, a rescue dog that
needs love and training and a little strategy.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
And so.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
You always have to be willing to walk and not
settle if you're not getting what you need. But you
can also like work the program and you have to
create the boundaries in the beginning, you really really do.
You have to just let someone know who you are
and where you're at. You don't have to do it
on the first date. You don't have to do it
on the third date. You should always be evolving, like

(03:31):
if you're dating at all, if you like someone at
all and they like you, like if some version of
the recipe is there, if some ingredients make sense. It
doesn't mean you have to get engaged. Doesn't mean you
have to know what they want. It doesn't mean they
have to be who you want them to be, because
you have to truly accept someone. And adjustments should be
made in every dynamic. Adjustments. Some it's not even sacrifices,

(03:55):
like effort, intention, But overall, if you have good ingredients,
your internal rule should be the ball is moving forward.
There is some evolution, okay, and that means like you
don't want to take many steps backwards. You're with a guy,
he's really into you, he's saying all these amazing things
to you. You see him the next day for breakfast,

(04:15):
you spend the day. Two weeks later, you go out
just for drinks, then you hook up and then he
leaves and like you don't see each other. The next day,
you don't do breakfast, and then you devolve into something different.
Or every single week for three months, which would never happen,
by the way, every single week, every single week for
four weeks. He texts you on the day of Saturday
a four o'clock, You go out that night, you hook up,

(04:37):
then you're not sure when you're going out with him again.
Every week is like gasping for air. What's gonna happen immediately? No,
it may not be that you're like glued to each
other's hips, but it has to be that there's some
forward motion, meaning next time you do lunch till a
little later, and next time on the date he says
next Tuesday. And by the way, if you're confident you

(04:58):
guys really like each other, you can stick.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
The landing of saying what you want.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
And usually it's not being naggy and not really saying
and it's kind of like, let's say you go out
with someone and then you kind of don't hear from
them between then and then the next week, and they
want to make plans with you the day before. You
have to say no. You just have to say, you
just have to I have plans, but say it would
be great if you know, if you'd given me some notice,
or you know, maybe next time after we go out,
we can set the next date. You don't have to

(05:24):
be a doormat and be a loser to say something normal,
but you have to say it in the right way.
The right way is not to like send a text,
is not to like start whining on a date, and
not to drink too much and bring it up, not
to let them know your true feelings like and and
show all you're crazy earlyer. The right way is to
achieve the desired result by being methodical, clear and confident.

(05:47):
I think girls are just doing it wrong, and we
really are just accepting I we're not driving. You gotta drive.

(06:08):
Here's the other thing. I was talking to someone about
this recently. I believe in manifestation and intention. So, like,
let's say you write down or put in your mind
what you want. You say, this is what I want,
and you decide you're not going to fold. Now, you
can fold on green eyes, or he was tall or

(06:31):
he was short. You could fold on something really superficial.
But you cannot settle and fold on the basic principles
and the fundamentals. Because what happens is chemistry comes in
the oxytocin and the serotonin, and you get attracted to
someone and you let all of these intentions and what
you said you wanted fly out the window. So for me,

(06:53):
when I entered my dating Adventure era, I said this,
do you want to hear my list? This was my list.
I want a man, not a boy. What does that mean?
It does not mean age. I literally I don't want
someone young anyway because I just don't want that for
a number of reasons, and we're going to go through
them together. I'm not an agist or anything like that.

(07:15):
I don't want someone young. I've been with young men
before and it's fine, but I don't want to do it.
And that is a little bit of the boy thing.
And it's just women mature way more quickly than men, emotionally, spiritually, mentally, astrologically,
every way. And so a younger man, no matter what,
you're gonna be a little bit like they just haven't

(07:37):
evolved at the same point as you. Because it's not
the references, it's not the music.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
It's really just.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Like they're not mature, they're not as emotionally evolved. So
Number one, I wanted a man, but you could have
a forty year old boy. You could have a sixty
five year old boy and a forty year old man.
Meaning it's not about the number but I did not
want someone younger. I really didn't want someone with a
four in front of their age. I wanted a five.

(08:04):
But I really didn't want someone in their sixties, which
you know means on my window is not going to
be that big. So it's hard, but I didn't care.
I would have done it, but I didn't want it.
It wasn't the deal breaker, but I just like I
didn't want it. So I was really intentional about that.
I knew the age that I wanted, and like, I've
wanted someone in their.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Fifties, like that's totally ideal.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
I have wanted a partner, And what do I mean
Everyone says they want a partner, So a true partner,
I think, like you're really in the trenches together and
you're really working on things together and you're complimenting each other.
And a good business partner, both people are not the
same and both people don't have the same skill sets.

(08:47):
I don't need redundancy, you know. I want a partner
that balances me, quiets me, makes me laugh, and a
partner in you know, I think in order to be
a real true partnership in a relationship, you have to
be going in the same direction. Like I've been in
long distance relationships and we have not lived in the

(09:08):
same place. But that's not the biggest problem. That's just
like sort of a temporary moment. But if we're not
going in the same direction, we don't actually want the
same thing. We don't want to live in the same
kind of place in the same kind of way. We
maybe don't parent in a similar way. We maybe you know,

(09:29):
energetically vibe differently where both people like to go and that,
by the way, this is different for everyone.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
For me, I want to be with someone, I want
to go with someone. I want to enjoy them. I
don't want that.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Like separation relationship that people go through. Like he likes this,
I like that you don't want to be the same person.
But I definitely do like having a real partner. And
I do think ultimately finances become a part of it too.
If you want to be in a real partnership, I
think you have to have like either either kids together
or property together, maybe even a dog together. You just

(10:01):
kind of have to like unite on priorities and things.
Otherwise you're just two people wandering in a relationship.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Now.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
I never knew this was important because I've dated people
who have really no money. I've dated people who come
from money. I've done it all. I've wanted someone who
is self made because I've never realized.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
And again this is my list.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
You might you will have a different one for different reasons,
like I want someone self made because I am self made,
and I like an entrepreneur because I am an entrepreneur,
and entrepreneurs need to talk to other entrepreneurs. Being an
entrepreneurs very lonely, and only other entrepreneurs really understand. It
doesn't mean that it's not such an accomplishment to work
in a corporate environment for years, or work in a

(10:46):
group with a team. All of this is great entrepreneurs.
It's just they're very lonely people. Because it's really it's
really it's really pop up. It's really startup. It's really
run and gone. It's really the rocket ship while flying it.
It's really creative, and it's really risky, and it's really
start from nothing. And I am a true entrepreneur, and

(11:08):
so it would make just like doctors like to marry doctors,
it would make sense that I really need an entrepreneur
because it's just like something that stimulates me and somebody
to talk to about it. And I also need someone
very fast paced.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Now.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
They don't need to talk as quickly as I do,
they don't need to run as quickly as I do,
but they need to energetically.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Meet me where I'm at, like, yeah, let's go. Sure.
And I don't want a babysit anyone.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
I've sent people through college, I've had to be doing
college courses, I've had to do babysitting.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
I don't want a babysit. I really don't.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
I want someone to be able to be on their
own work a room, compliment me, not meaning tell me
I'm pretty, like, be a compliment to me meaning I'm
out at the Mets game, you know, in the owner's suite,
And if I bring someone, I want the person I
bring to be able to walk around a talk to
anybody there as I can or would without me being there.

(12:03):
I could walk in and be gone for two hours,
which would not be nice and I would never do that.
But they should be able to hang out and make
a friend and just live a life. So that's something
I've really really been serious about wanting. I want someone

(12:30):
who's financially successful, equally as wealthy as I am or
more equal or more. The disparity and income in relationships
causes problems, it really does. Money is such a massive
character in relationships, and if you are the moneyed person,
there will be a dynamic. There will be an a masculation,
there will be a power struggle invariably. I mean, obviously

(12:55):
everything has an everything has an exception. I don't really
believe that though there will be a struggle, something will
go on as a result of this disparity and income.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
It will come out in some way. It can be
the need to exert power.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
In other ways, it could be the need to go
have an affair because you feel inferior. It could be
a thousand things, but it will be something. It could
be being abusive because you feel like you're not in
a power position and you get to be in control
in another way. So I don't believe in that, and
I don't want that. And guess what the good news
about dating with you guys? You could judge whatever I

(13:27):
want or don't want. I don't care, nor should you.
You are allowed to want what you want. You're walking
in the store, You go in there and get what
you want, and what you need is markedly different from mine,
but that's what I want and to laugh, to laugh,
like all I care about is laughing. All I really
care is laughing. Someone who would get along with my

(13:49):
daughter or someone my daughter would like? You respect my daughter.
You know, she's fourteen. She doesn't want me to be
with someone too old. She has opinions on physical appearance,
like it's not her choice. So I think you got
to be intentional and write down exactly what you want.
What about religion? Does someone have to be religious? Does
someone have to be Italian? Does someone have to be Jewish?

(14:12):
Does someone have to not be religious? What about politics?
Someone voting for Kamalist, someone voting for Trump? Do you care?
Do you not care? There are many married couples that
are voting for different people.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
But do you care?

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Is someone close to their family? Do they have a family?
Is that important to you?

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Do you care?

Speaker 1 (14:28):
Someone might want someone not so close to their family
because they are alone all the time and they feel
self conscious and they have like live the life of
the family. You know, family dynamics can be serious. So
there are many roads to romantic rome. So oh, back
to the other thing before when I said it was
super intentional about dating I don't break the diet like
I don't.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
I'm not going to now go with.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Someone who's not self made, not an entrepreneur, Meaning if
you get really strict, it's much easier to meet someone,
even easier than when you're young and it's your entire job.
When you get older, you know exactly what you want.
It's so good to be dating in your forties and fifties.
You know exactly what you want, and most importantly, with
the exception of some physical attributes, you cannot settle. You

(15:13):
can't compromise on that list of what you wanted. It
will come out later in the wash, and it will
not be good. It will not be good.
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