November 29, 2024 • 16 mins
Elf, the Gorga's, Broadway, Housewives talk...it's story time.
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Christmas with the Gorgas. This is a new show that
I would like to produce. It's gonna be very short,
but I don't know that it has to be short.
But I'm interested in Christmas with the Gorgos. Let me
explain why. Who are the Gorgos? Some of you may ask.
The Gorgos are Melissa and Joe Gorga from the Real
Housewives of New Jersey. She does look a little like Jyl,
(00:38):
like not quite but I mean she doesn't, but I
could see like the vibe, she does look like a
pop star. Okay, So I go this past weekend to
Elf the musical on Broadway on Sunday. Now, I guess
I'm gonna talk about two things. One is Christmas with
the Gorgos, but also Christmas with my daughter, which is
really important because we make memories every and now she's
(01:01):
a teen, and she's getting older, and she's getting influenced,
and she's got her friends, and she's got her social life,
and she's got a lot of homework, and she's got
her sports and her outside of school sports clubs, and
she's volunteering at school, and she's got a romantic life,
and she's busy and so like there could be days
where we're in the same house and and we don't
(01:23):
even see each other. I mean, we see each other,
but it's like, you know, the days of just like
let's lay down and watch a movie on a school
night are gone.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Those days are over.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
She's either talking to her friends, doing homework, doing sports,
doing skincare, showering, preparing for the next day, packing for
something we're doing, planning it outfit for her homecoming, whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
So one thing.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Though, that I am really intentional about is holiday traditions.
And we go to the Rockets the Radio City Christmas
Show every year we never missed. We missed during the
pandemic when it was closed.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
We go see the tree.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
We do some version of like a holiday very day
out restaurant. There's one in Connecticut, but there also are
several New York. So I am going to take her
to one. There's a blist of them, and I don't
really care which one. I just want to go to one,
or maybe we'll go to many, but.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I love doing that.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
And then in the Hamptons, which is a place that
we sometimes spend some Christmas time, and this year, because
of all her activities, we might not even get there.
We were supposed to be in Florida for just this
three day stint, and she said, Mom can be go
to the Hamptons because she wants to feel that feeling,
that consistent, lifelong feeling that she's had of us being
out there, just the two of us with the tree
(02:35):
and being like in fuzzy pajamas and going to TJ Max.
And then we go to this one store where the
ornaments are all overpriced but they're stunning, and like, we
each pick an ornament that we think is good for
each other, and then we pick ones for other people,
and we buy some stuff we don't need, and we
go to reef making and like, we do the whole
thing because it's a time that can be sad and
(02:55):
depressing and lonely.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
And I get that, and get that.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I mean, I'm effectively an orphan and I don't have that,
like that family dynamic that people have and crave, but
we make it for ourselves and it's beautiful. And so
we were going to go down to Florida for a
longer time and we decided to just take the three
days to do that. And so when I was invited
to the Elf Musical, on Broadway. We used to go
to The Grinch one. It wasn't Broadway. It was just
(03:21):
like a show we used to do, The Bubble Show.
I've always been really good at that, Like I see
something and then we're going to do it, you know
what I mean. Like I'm like, I see it online
and I make sure that we go in the city.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
We're going to go do it.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Or it's a viral ice cream coven in Klan Candy,
or it's the Brian Park hot chocolate thing, like I'll
try to check one box and we're going to be
in the city and we have to get ice skating
on the list. And so I'm into all of it.
So this weekend we go to Elf the Musical on
Sunday and we sit down in our seats and Melissa
Gorga and Joe Gorga are right behind me.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Now, there are some housewives.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
That I wouldn't want to be seated near, Like I
wouldn't really care, but I just don't love. And I
think that that should be actually told to us by
the people ask inviting us, Like we should know that
because what if it was somebody I didn't want to
be seated next to. But Lo and behold, like sitting
right in front of the Gorgos. I don't I think
if I were like going to choose the Housewives couple
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of all of the franchises, that I would want to
be seated in front of. So Joe and Melissa are
sitting behind me with their two sons who look like
they are like you know, they're like they look like
they live at the gym that they were roommates with
with Joey and the situation and Vinnie and like GTL
(04:42):
bro like full on and they're good. They're handsome kids.
They seem nice. They said hello, like, but they're not
at ELF the musical on Sunday. I mean, Joe Gorga
is at ELF the music on Sunday, and it's like
so cute because it's so happy waife, happy life. They
look like the Italian couple that should be on the
tap of a wedding cake. Just like he's got to
watch it's like blinged out, you know, she's got to
(05:04):
watch that's blinged out a red sequence skirt. And he
you know, he's got nice eyes, like he's got to sparkle.
They both have very good skin. Like they were right
behind me we were chatting and I was talking to
their sons.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
I'm like, and I kept Brynn was dying.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Brin was right in front of Joe, who kept telling Brindant,
you gotta make money. Go what these kids? Now's the
time she got to make money now, And I'm laughing.
And Brinn does make money, Like she has actually made
some money. I have her talking to a financial advisor
because I've gotten some deals and they've asked if she
wanted to be part of it, and so then she's
made her own money. But anyway, he's like her, I'm like,
you could be her manager. Like he's like literally telling
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her what to do. And for some reason, Brynn really
gets a kick out of men that have big personalities.
I have another friend, her husband John, and like, she's
so nice and she has multiple daughters, and like, my
daughter connects with the husband who's a fucking animal, and
so like this is she's connecting with Joe Gorgo, which
is just so funny, and she's like me, she has
a warped sense of humor. So I keep bringing up
(06:00):
the fact that like fucking Joe Gorga's at Elf the
musical on Sunday, like what do you do? And he's like, well,
this is what you do, you know, And then the
sons are trying to watch football and laughing because she's like,
I'm like what she brought a fourteen a seventeen year
old Italian boy from New Jersey to see Elf the Musical,
Like and Joe Gorgo, who's there, happy wife's, happy life,
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but like he's getting late, like these are anyway, and
they're telling a story about one of their kids that
night before I'm not going to share their own family
parent stories. And we're laughing and like I'm just dying.
I'm focusing and harping on the fact. I'm like, are
you kidding me? Like they deserve anything they want, Like
these two boys want to watch football and they're watching
like Elf the Musical. What's really funny is that Melissa
Gorga and I, both independently of one another, called the
(06:45):
intermission halftime. We both said it step, but I just
said it to Brinda that she said, I go. I
just said to Brinda's halftime so anyway, bring out the
biggest kick. I'm like, are you kidding me? That these
kids are here right now? She was dying and even
like it was hokey elf the movie's but this was
like triple hope. We were dying, like it's just there's
a time where this elf, he's such a good actor
(07:07):
that like he was so sad at the end about
the tragedy of there being no Christmas spirit that.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Break Britain said out loud, she goes is he okay?
It's like it was so insane.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
He was like we thought the actor was gonna like
break character and have a nervous breakdown. Like it was
almost too real. It was hysterical. So anyway, we were dying.
I was so happy to see the Gorgas and I
was just like, this is Christmas with the Gorgas. They
ended up going out to Tow I think after and
I wanted to go with them. I had my own plans.
I wanted to just like hang out with them. I
wanted to get like fucked up with Joe Melissa. That's
(07:40):
what I really wanted to do. So anyway, I don't know,
they have a sparkle that I like them. We talked
a little bit about tea and show and family. I
would never divulge anything they said to me or anyone else,
but I just was I didn't know when they were filming.
What's happening. I guess the whole thing is on pause.
That's public information. I guess they're casting. The people on
(08:01):
the streets say that they won't both be They wouldn't
have Teresa and Melissa and Joe. I guess there's still
this rift, which is crazy. By the way, it's totally
crazy that this show, which is it is the show
got in the way. And it was funny because I
explained it to my daughter. I was like, they're on TV.
They're on the Jersey Housewise and I was like, remember
bringing you met Teresa backstage at Bravo whatever, watch Rappens Live.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
And I was like, so they don't speak.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
She's his sister and they don't speak, presumably because Melissa
was like the new one on the show and it
was kind of Teresa's show. And then the parents died,
and when the parents die, that's the glue that doesn't
hold everybody together. And Joe was like, spot on it,
like the way I described it, Okay, no blame. I
didn't say anything like that. I'm just telling I just
was reporting the news, sports on weather. Then I was
(08:56):
actually thinking, like, you know, when you're casting a show
like you're casting the family. And actually in the moment,
I was thinking like, wow, like you two are one,
like you're casting Melissa and Joe, Like he's as entertaining
as any housewif to me. And I don't know how
much Teresa and her new guy because I haven't seen
it in years. I mean I was sitting with the
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kid who's either the one who's fourteen or seventeen that
like he got in the fight at the christening, like
full fit.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
I mean he was like those fourteen years ago.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
So I guess that was the fourteen year old that
Joe Gorgo got into a physical altercation at his son's christening.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I was dying.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
So anyway, I was thinking, like he's as entertaining. And
I don't know how much the kids are in the show,
but I was thinking, it's Teresa's new guy entertaining. He
looks entertaining. He seemed nice, you know, these two of them.
Sure they were an opinion of him, but like when
I met him, he seemed nice. But the internet has
a lot to say about him too, and are her
kids on the show. So if you had to cast
only one of the two, I don't know what you
would do between Teres, Teresa's old school, Melissa and Joe
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are one one dog like Bigian Smalls. I don't know,
but I enjoyed hanging out with and if it was
Teresa and the other guy behind me, I would have
been excited as well.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
But I was excited for these sale. It was great.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
So now it brings me to talk about it's kind
of it can't go on. They'll have to mix in
the old with the new, or just the old. But
it's funny how things have to be timed right. I
talked about the announcement when they announced the new cast
and the legacy, and I thought it sounded boring. I
didn't understand it. It was confusing. Evidently I was right, because
the announcement was boring and the show is boring. It
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didn't make any sense. It was like just rints, like
it never happened. All these women and now the new
women just don't land. The new show is obviously terrible,
because the whole entire internet has spoken about it. I
have not seen it since the first one, but I
don't know. I think there's some indication for a network
that got really big for their bridges didn't treat their
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talent properly, got in a lot of trouble for many
different things as that's a completely coarse correct and redirect
and Shift has put all of its eggs in basically
a housewives basket with the exception of anderprom rules and
a little below deck and now is to make a
real adjustment. But they definitely have never been a network
that has been known for treating their talent properly. That
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is something that is widely known. It's a very big
deal with culture at networks and some networks. Some networks
don't pay well, but they treat their talent right. Some
pay really well and treat their talent right. It's always
a financial discussion, but there's such a haphazard way with
which housewives are paid, not paid, treated favored in the
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good box in the bad box. You know me, I
left after three seasons. I left, went back and then
guess what I left again. I went and came back
for like that connection with the audience, No, and I
went back for the benjamins. I went back for the Benjamins,
and I stayed for the Benjamins. And when I left
(11:52):
it just my soul. I left the first time, because
my soul felt crushed and toxic, and that was ballsy
to leave a show a seasons when you're nobody, like,
who the hell do I think I am. I always
had faith in myself, but you have to make an
exit to make an entrance. I did not intend to
ever come back. I left, and I was convinced because
(12:12):
I was made an offer I couldn't refuse. Monetarily, it
was also a good ego flex. It made me the
highest paid housewife in history, and no one ever knew,
and no one to this day knows what I got paid,
and that number was a baseline, so it kept growing
and I stayed for all those years, and I remember
talking to someone really high power up and power in
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the industry who basically said, there's gonna be a moment
which we passed where it's gonna be like why is
she here? Like with all that you have going on
and everything you're it's gonna be weird.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Why there.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
We had passed that point, and then I got to
that point for myself because it was like even my
business managers, You're like, this is months of your time
for all this money, millions of dollars, And I was like,
I got to get the fuck out of here, and
it was the best decision I ever made, which is
to tell you that you should always go with your soul,
how your gut and your soul feels. Not you can't
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make decisions out of money or fear. You know your fomo.
You've got to be truthful, and it's never failed me.
First time I left, I was able to get millions
of dollars as a result of leaving and coming back
just a couple of years later, because they got to
see my value. Second time. I you know, when I
came back. The second time I left changed my entire life.
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I created an entire business which is three times as
lucrative as what I was getting paid at my highest
day on Housewives. So fear will hold you back, you jump.
And what I was going to say also is that, like,
I have a different relationship to it now. So when
I'm seated in front of any housewife, for the most part,
I am happy, I am positive, I smile. There's no competition,
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there's no angst. It's not me against them. I'm happy
for them. I want them to thrive. I hope they
pay Melissa Gory a ten million dollars a season. Same
with Joe.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
I support the four women who can't stand me.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
From duringda you know, from during the Durna is fine
with me, and Sonya loves me, and Luanne it is
probably right down the middle, and so is uh Ramona.
And it doesn't even matter because I can still acknowledge
that they were good housewives and that they held the
show on their back and would have stayed to the
dying last day.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
That's the thing.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
About Luanne, Sonya, Ramona and Durnda. They would never have left.
They've all said they would leave. Not one of those
four would ever leave. Very few people and I've I
know the list. It's like three people that have maybe
three to four that I've ever really left the housewives.
People say they've left, they haven't. They've been let go.
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And people have said to me personally, if I've ever fired,
I'll just walk out gracefully, and none of them have
done that either. They all really want back in because
they just get that high and they get that relevance
and they're getting older at the same time, and they
just crave it because it's we lack purpose as we
get older, and it's a it's a slice a humble pie,
and I would be lying if I said I didn't.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I didn't.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
I didn't think it's a little like karmic. And I
love when people say that back in my day it.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Was, it was the best.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
But I also love when people don't even really remember
me on it because it was so long ago, because
that means the Rinse is complete. Like now I'm gonna
point where I can talk about this because I feel
like I'm so separated from it and people don't think
about me connected to it anymore and the Rinse. So
when I that's why when I I deleted the video.
Sometimes my public is to be like, please, you can
want to be a wave dumpster and like rinse it off,
(15:36):
but you can't forget where you came from. And I
also do have an opinion on it. You've got the
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balls to pick up there
Christmas with the Gorgas. This is a new show that
I would like to produce. It's gonna be very short,
but I don't know that it has to be short.
But I'm interested in Christmas with the Gorgos. Let me
explain why. Who are the Gorgos? Some of you may ask.
The Gorgos are Melissa and Joe Gorga from the Real
Housewives of New Jersey. She does look a little like Jyl,
(00:38):
like not quite but I mean she doesn't, but I
could see like the vibe, she does look like a
pop star. Okay, So I go this past weekend to
Elf the musical on Broadway on Sunday. Now, I guess
I'm gonna talk about two things. One is Christmas with
the Gorgos, but also Christmas with my daughter, which is
really important because we make memories every and now she's
(01:01):
a teen, and she's getting older, and she's getting influenced,
and she's got her friends, and she's got her social life,
and she's got a lot of homework, and she's got
her sports and her outside of school sports clubs, and
she's volunteering at school, and she's got a romantic life,
and she's busy and so like there could be days
where we're in the same house and and we don't
(01:23):
even see each other. I mean, we see each other,
but it's like, you know, the days of just like
let's lay down and watch a movie on a school
night are gone.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Those days are over.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
She's either talking to her friends, doing homework, doing sports,
doing skincare, showering, preparing for the next day, packing for
something we're doing, planning it outfit for her homecoming, whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
So one thing.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Though, that I am really intentional about is holiday traditions.
And we go to the Rockets the Radio City Christmas
Show every year we never missed. We missed during the
pandemic when it was closed.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
We go see the tree.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
We do some version of like a holiday very day
out restaurant. There's one in Connecticut, but there also are
several New York. So I am going to take her
to one. There's a blist of them, and I don't
really care which one. I just want to go to one,
or maybe we'll go to many, but.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I love doing that.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
And then in the Hamptons, which is a place that
we sometimes spend some Christmas time, and this year, because
of all her activities, we might not even get there.
We were supposed to be in Florida for just this
three day stint, and she said, Mom can be go
to the Hamptons because she wants to feel that feeling,
that consistent, lifelong feeling that she's had of us being
out there, just the two of us with the tree
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and being like in fuzzy pajamas and going to TJ Max.
And then we go to this one store where the
ornaments are all overpriced but they're stunning, and like, we
each pick an ornament that we think is good for
each other, and then we pick ones for other people,
and we buy some stuff we don't need, and we
go to reef making and like, we do the whole
thing because it's a time that can be sad and
(02:55):
depressing and lonely.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
And I get that, and get that.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I mean, I'm effectively an orphan and I don't have that,
like that family dynamic that people have and crave, but
we make it for ourselves and it's beautiful. And so
we were going to go down to Florida for a
longer time and we decided to just take the three
days to do that. And so when I was invited
to the Elf Musical, on Broadway. We used to go
to The Grinch one. It wasn't Broadway. It was just
(03:21):
like a show we used to do, The Bubble Show.
I've always been really good at that, Like I see
something and then we're going to do it, you know
what I mean. Like I'm like, I see it online
and I make sure that we go in the city.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
We're going to go do it.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Or it's a viral ice cream coven in Klan Candy,
or it's the Brian Park hot chocolate thing, like I'll
try to check one box and we're going to be
in the city and we have to get ice skating
on the list. And so I'm into all of it.
So this weekend we go to Elf the Musical on
Sunday and we sit down in our seats and Melissa
Gorga and Joe Gorga are right behind me.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Now, there are some housewives.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
That I wouldn't want to be seated near, Like I
wouldn't really care, but I just don't love. And I
think that that should be actually told to us by
the people ask inviting us, Like we should know that
because what if it was somebody I didn't want to
be seated next to. But Lo and behold, like sitting
right in front of the Gorgos. I don't I think
if I were like going to choose the Housewives couple
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of all of the franchises, that I would want to
be seated in front of. So Joe and Melissa are
sitting behind me with their two sons who look like
they are like you know, they're like they look like
they live at the gym that they were roommates with
with Joey and the situation and Vinnie and like GTL
(04:42):
bro like full on and they're good. They're handsome kids.
They seem nice. They said hello, like, but they're not
at ELF the musical on Sunday. I mean, Joe Gorga
is at ELF the music on Sunday, and it's like
so cute because it's so happy waife, happy life. They
look like the Italian couple that should be on the
tap of a wedding cake. Just like he's got to
watch it's like blinged out, you know, she's got to
(05:04):
watch that's blinged out a red sequence skirt. And he
you know, he's got nice eyes, like he's got to sparkle.
They both have very good skin. Like they were right
behind me we were chatting and I was talking to
their sons.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
I'm like, and I kept Brynn was dying.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Brin was right in front of Joe, who kept telling Brindant,
you gotta make money. Go what these kids? Now's the
time she got to make money now, And I'm laughing.
And Brinn does make money, Like she has actually made
some money. I have her talking to a financial advisor
because I've gotten some deals and they've asked if she
wanted to be part of it, and so then she's
made her own money. But anyway, he's like her, I'm like,
you could be her manager. Like he's like literally telling
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her what to do. And for some reason, Brynn really
gets a kick out of men that have big personalities.
I have another friend, her husband John, and like, she's
so nice and she has multiple daughters, and like, my
daughter connects with the husband who's a fucking animal, and
so like this is she's connecting with Joe Gorgo, which
is just so funny, and she's like me, she has
a warped sense of humor. So I keep bringing up
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the fact that like fucking Joe Gorga's at Elf the
musical on Sunday, like what do you do? And he's like, well,
this is what you do, you know, And then the
sons are trying to watch football and laughing because she's like,
I'm like what she brought a fourteen a seventeen year
old Italian boy from New Jersey to see Elf the Musical,
Like and Joe Gorgo, who's there, happy wife's, happy life,
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but like he's getting late, like these are anyway, and
they're telling a story about one of their kids that
night before I'm not going to share their own family
parent stories. And we're laughing and like I'm just dying.
I'm focusing and harping on the fact. I'm like, are
you kidding me? Like they deserve anything they want, Like
these two boys want to watch football and they're watching
like Elf the Musical. What's really funny is that Melissa
Gorga and I, both independently of one another, called the
(06:45):
intermission halftime. We both said it step, but I just
said it to Brinda that she said, I go. I
just said to Brinda's halftime so anyway, bring out the
biggest kick. I'm like, are you kidding me? That these
kids are here right now? She was dying and even
like it was hokey elf the movie's but this was
like triple hope. We were dying, like it's just there's
a time where this elf, he's such a good actor
(07:07):
that like he was so sad at the end about
the tragedy of there being no Christmas spirit that.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Break Britain said out loud, she goes is he okay?
It's like it was so insane.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
He was like we thought the actor was gonna like
break character and have a nervous breakdown. Like it was
almost too real. It was hysterical. So anyway, we were dying.
I was so happy to see the Gorgas and I
was just like, this is Christmas with the Gorgas. They
ended up going out to Tow I think after and
I wanted to go with them. I had my own plans.
I wanted to just like hang out with them. I
wanted to get like fucked up with Joe Melissa. That's
(07:40):
what I really wanted to do. So anyway, I don't know,
they have a sparkle that I like them. We talked
a little bit about tea and show and family. I
would never divulge anything they said to me or anyone else,
but I just was I didn't know when they were filming.
What's happening. I guess the whole thing is on pause.
That's public information. I guess they're casting. The people on
(08:01):
the streets say that they won't both be They wouldn't
have Teresa and Melissa and Joe. I guess there's still
this rift, which is crazy. By the way, it's totally
crazy that this show, which is it is the show
got in the way. And it was funny because I
explained it to my daughter. I was like, they're on TV.
They're on the Jersey Housewise and I was like, remember
bringing you met Teresa backstage at Bravo whatever, watch Rappens Live.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
And I was like, so they don't speak.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
She's his sister and they don't speak, presumably because Melissa
was like the new one on the show and it
was kind of Teresa's show. And then the parents died,
and when the parents die, that's the glue that doesn't
hold everybody together. And Joe was like, spot on it,
like the way I described it, Okay, no blame. I
didn't say anything like that. I'm just telling I just
was reporting the news, sports on weather. Then I was
(08:56):
actually thinking, like, you know, when you're casting a show
like you're casting the family. And actually in the moment,
I was thinking like, wow, like you two are one,
like you're casting Melissa and Joe, Like he's as entertaining
as any housewif to me. And I don't know how
much Teresa and her new guy because I haven't seen
it in years. I mean I was sitting with the
(09:19):
kid who's either the one who's fourteen or seventeen that
like he got in the fight at the christening, like
full fit.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
I mean he was like those fourteen years ago.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
So I guess that was the fourteen year old that
Joe Gorgo got into a physical altercation at his son's christening.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I was dying.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
So anyway, I was thinking, like he's as entertaining. And
I don't know how much the kids are in the show,
but I was thinking, it's Teresa's new guy entertaining. He
looks entertaining. He seemed nice, you know, these two of them.
Sure they were an opinion of him, but like when
I met him, he seemed nice. But the internet has
a lot to say about him too, and are her
kids on the show. So if you had to cast
only one of the two, I don't know what you
would do between Teres, Teresa's old school, Melissa and Joe
(09:55):
are one one dog like Bigian Smalls. I don't know,
but I enjoyed hanging out with and if it was
Teresa and the other guy behind me, I would have
been excited as well.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
But I was excited for these sale. It was great.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
So now it brings me to talk about it's kind
of it can't go on. They'll have to mix in
the old with the new, or just the old. But
it's funny how things have to be timed right. I
talked about the announcement when they announced the new cast
and the legacy, and I thought it sounded boring. I
didn't understand it. It was confusing. Evidently I was right, because
the announcement was boring and the show is boring. It
(10:27):
didn't make any sense. It was like just rints, like
it never happened. All these women and now the new
women just don't land. The new show is obviously terrible,
because the whole entire internet has spoken about it. I
have not seen it since the first one, but I
don't know. I think there's some indication for a network
that got really big for their bridges didn't treat their
(10:47):
talent properly, got in a lot of trouble for many
different things as that's a completely coarse correct and redirect
and Shift has put all of its eggs in basically
a housewives basket with the exception of anderprom rules and
a little below deck and now is to make a
real adjustment. But they definitely have never been a network
that has been known for treating their talent properly. That
(11:09):
is something that is widely known. It's a very big
deal with culture at networks and some networks. Some networks
don't pay well, but they treat their talent right. Some
pay really well and treat their talent right. It's always
a financial discussion, but there's such a haphazard way with
which housewives are paid, not paid, treated favored in the
(11:31):
good box in the bad box. You know me, I
left after three seasons. I left, went back and then
guess what I left again. I went and came back
for like that connection with the audience, No, and I
went back for the benjamins. I went back for the Benjamins,
and I stayed for the Benjamins. And when I left
(11:52):
it just my soul. I left the first time, because
my soul felt crushed and toxic, and that was ballsy
to leave a show a seasons when you're nobody, like,
who the hell do I think I am. I always
had faith in myself, but you have to make an
exit to make an entrance. I did not intend to
ever come back. I left, and I was convinced because
(12:12):
I was made an offer I couldn't refuse. Monetarily, it
was also a good ego flex. It made me the
highest paid housewife in history, and no one ever knew,
and no one to this day knows what I got paid,
and that number was a baseline, so it kept growing
and I stayed for all those years, and I remember
talking to someone really high power up and power in
(12:34):
the industry who basically said, there's gonna be a moment
which we passed where it's gonna be like why is
she here? Like with all that you have going on
and everything you're it's gonna be weird.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Why there.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
We had passed that point, and then I got to
that point for myself because it was like even my
business managers, You're like, this is months of your time
for all this money, millions of dollars, And I was like,
I got to get the fuck out of here, and
it was the best decision I ever made, which is
to tell you that you should always go with your soul,
how your gut and your soul feels. Not you can't
(13:05):
make decisions out of money or fear. You know your fomo.
You've got to be truthful, and it's never failed me.
First time I left, I was able to get millions
of dollars as a result of leaving and coming back
just a couple of years later, because they got to
see my value. Second time. I you know, when I
came back. The second time I left changed my entire life.
(13:27):
I created an entire business which is three times as
lucrative as what I was getting paid at my highest
day on Housewives. So fear will hold you back, you jump.
And what I was going to say also is that, like,
I have a different relationship to it now. So when
I'm seated in front of any housewife, for the most part,
I am happy, I am positive, I smile. There's no competition,
(13:50):
there's no angst. It's not me against them. I'm happy
for them. I want them to thrive. I hope they
pay Melissa Gory a ten million dollars a season. Same
with Joe.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
I support the four women who can't stand me.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
From duringda you know, from during the Durna is fine
with me, and Sonya loves me, and Luanne it is
probably right down the middle, and so is uh Ramona.
And it doesn't even matter because I can still acknowledge
that they were good housewives and that they held the
show on their back and would have stayed to the
dying last day.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
That's the thing.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
About Luanne, Sonya, Ramona and Durnda. They would never have left.
They've all said they would leave. Not one of those
four would ever leave. Very few people and I've I
know the list. It's like three people that have maybe
three to four that I've ever really left the housewives.
People say they've left, they haven't. They've been let go.
(14:46):
And people have said to me personally, if I've ever fired,
I'll just walk out gracefully, and none of them have
done that either. They all really want back in because
they just get that high and they get that relevance
and they're getting older at the same time, and they
just crave it because it's we lack purpose as we
get older, and it's a it's a slice a humble pie,
and I would be lying if I said I didn't.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I didn't.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
I didn't think it's a little like karmic. And I
love when people say that back in my day it.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Was, it was the best.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
But I also love when people don't even really remember
me on it because it was so long ago, because
that means the Rinse is complete. Like now I'm gonna
point where I can talk about this because I feel
like I'm so separated from it and people don't think
about me connected to it anymore and the Rinse. So
when I that's why when I I deleted the video.
Sometimes my public is to be like, please, you can
want to be a wave dumpster and like rinse it off,
(15:36):
but you can't forget where you came from. And I
also do have an opinion on it. You've got the
(16:00):
balls to pick up there
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Bethenny Frankel
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