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March 7, 2024 14 mins

Bethenny chronicles the rise and fall of Jay Shetty. Are the allegations true? What celebrities got duped and why?

Plus, Bethenny rants on Christina Aguilera and Beyonce, but what exactly does she have to say about them?!

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Speaker 1 (00:12):
So let's talk about Jay Shetty.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
I did not know who Jay Shetty was except that
he was a guy on the Calm app. So I
used to do this meditation app during the pandemic and
one of the people on it.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Was this guy, Jay Shetty. But I didn't know he
was like a thing.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
He was like, hello, I'm Jay Shetty and we're going
on a journey.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
And I didn't know.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
He's liked sleep and like it's very malifluous, and so
I just would choose him sometimes because he would put
me to sleep. And now he's in the midst of
this scandal allegedly perpetuating a fraud that he's not exactly
who he was who he said he was, his credentials

(01:01):
aren't what he said they were, et cetera. So this
has happened with these scandals with different people in sort
of that wellness space. You know, I had Deepak show
for on my podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
I really liked him.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
I don't know, I feel like he's had things said
about him. A lot of these people who become these
spiritual leaders or gurus. This gurus, it's such a non
scientific term, like I could have a guru for frozen yogurt,
Like this is my you know, frosting guru. It's just like,

(01:39):
you know, I have a guru for buttons. I like
vintage buttons. So anyway, he's like this guru, this life coach.
Those areas can be challenging because I could go be
a life coach and say I'm a life coach. And
the thing is he has all of these credentials or
background that aren't tracking. An ex girlfriend of his is
saying it doesn't track. Apparently he says he has some

(02:00):
a degree or something from some place that doesn't give
that degree. And so you know it's remember Brian Roberts,
who's a credible, accomplished journalist, and he went out not
in a great way because whatever he had said was
exaggerating or not letting the truth get in the way

(02:22):
of a good story. So he got fired and it
was a problem because he's a journalist.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
So this guy Jay.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
He has Kim Kardashian on his podcast, he marries Jennifer
Lopez and Ben Affleck and now he's this guru based
on all the things he's said, he's done, and now
he's getting canceled because a lot of those things aren't true.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
So he's not telling the truth.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Now, he's not a doctor that's operating on people or
a surgeon that said he went to medical school. He's
in this sort of life coach, spiritual bullshit space to
begin with.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
So my thing is, if you go.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Into a church and it makes you feel good every week, Yes,
if they're stealing your money and not using it for
things that they say they're going to use it for.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Fine, But if you go in and Mickey Mouse.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
And Donald Duck are the ones running the church and
you walk out feeling good and you're buying whatever they're selling,
does is that bad for you? Like, this is not
bad that Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck thought he was
somebody that he's not. They thought he was the Dali Lama,
and you know he's just the Lama. I mean, because

(03:38):
they got what they wanted. They had a great wedding.
People knew this guy was a name. They enjoyed it.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
And you know it's happened in the past with financial advisors. Well,
Bernie made off.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
That's different because that guy's losing people's money. But everybody
loved bragging about knowing Bernie made off, and the people
that cozy up to celebrities. Those are people that you
should be aware of, Okay, These people that are like
faux spiritual or like humble bragging. They're so obsessed with

(04:12):
fame because they really want it for themselves and they
want to be near it, so like to get in
there and be marrying Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck, or
to be getting Tom Brady to invest with you, or
to get people to go to Firefest that guy, or
you know, to get people to want you to marry them,

(04:35):
or they think you're their guru. Like there are red flags, okay,
and celebrities are so susceptible to this because celebrities believe
in all the bullshit, like you know, the vampire facials
and you know the quick fixes and the five hundred
dollars creams, et cetera. I know many celebrities you know

(04:57):
from you know, when Portia and Ellen used to invite
me to come stay in Santa Barbara, I didn't go,
not because I didn't like por Chanel and I love,
you know, hanging out with them. I just didn't want
to get too close to the flame, meaning like I
don't need to you know, I do business with her.
I was doing a talk show with her, and like,
I'm not a person who's really friends with celebrities. I
mean I know them, you know what I mean, Like

(05:19):
Eric stone Street and I text or see it and
I know each other, or I do hoe a show
and we'll text her when something happens. But like, I
don't need to be best friends with celebrities. I don't
need to use celebrities as currency because it's just not
who I am. And I'm not like peddling anything, you know,
like via them. So if Jay Shetty has Ben and

(05:43):
Jen get married with him, more people I guess are
doing his podcast and it keeps raising his fame.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Oh my god. And he was in Jennifer Lopez's.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
New movie, wasn't he?

Speaker 2 (05:52):
So you know the thing though, is Jennifer Lopez and
Ben are happily married, it seems, and they had a wedding,
and I fell asleep to the app and other people
went on his podcast and thought he was the Second Coming.
And he's giving advice as a quote unquote post spiritual
life coach. So you know, should we shouldn't believe half

(06:14):
the bullshit that goes on with these people, because just
get what you want out of it or don't, but
you don't need to like invest in their credentials. He
was a guy giving post spiritual advice, lulling me to sleep.
He's got a podcast all these people waxing poetic about
all that they know. They're just humans, They're just human beings.
You know, if a doctor tells you about you know,

(06:37):
your chromosomes, your cells or your blood like that, they
need to have gone to the medical school that they
say they went to or that they went to medical school.
You know, if a business guy is taking your money,
we'd like to know exactly what that person's.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
Doing with it.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
And by the way, for people who don't always know
what the person's doing with it, because that's hard too.
You know, when I first made money, I went to
the nerdy, dorky guy that someone that I knew who
was very conservative and not flashy, cashy, that she had
given her money to. She used to be the head
of Bravo. And I'd made all this money and it was,

(07:13):
you know, effectively sitting in a suitcase under my bed
because I didn't know what to.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
Do with it.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
And I called someone who I thought was like sort
of like conservative and not flashy and not showy and
not braggy, and just like I could still get robbed.
But I asked her for her opinion of someone who
was very conservative, and I could kind of drive the program.
But it was at a bank that was reputable, wasn't
some bullshit like guy who's you know, taken people to

(07:39):
his house in montak and the Hamptons and like hobnobbing
with the owner of the mets.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
So that's kind of how I've rolled.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
And I just think if something seems too good to
be true, it probably is. If someone's making money hand
over fist with your money and it seems unusual, you
should be suspicious. You know.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
If someone is just like really over the top about.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
How evolved and how Dali Lama and how Buddhist and
how spiritual whatever they are, they're really really collecting celebrities
as friends.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Beware.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
But unless I'm missing something, he didn't do any damage
to any of the people he surrounded himself by. He's
just like half bullshit, so is everybody else in the
entertainment industry. Newsflash, I could tell you twenty people that
you know of that are aless celebrities that pedal one
bag of bullshit, and it's really the opposite. I know

(08:37):
so many people that seem so nice on television and
in movies, and then I've met in person and their
fucking assholes. Like, you know, I've been in the presence
of real assholes. And then I know people that you
would think might be the biggest asshole and they're not.
They're so nice. Like there are massive celebrities that are
the nicest people you ever met, and then there are
like loser C and D list celebrities that are disastrous.

(08:58):
Like everybody's everything and you got to pick and choose
and keep your circle tight. But Jay Shetty not, you know,
having the bullshit spiritual credentials that he said he was.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
Supposed to have.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
I don't think that has anything to do with what
he's been doing for people, which is like, you know,
just spewing bullshit and if they believe it.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
It's like a horoscope.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
I don't know if there's a real astrologer, but when
I read a horoscope and it works for me, I.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
Feel good for five minutes.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
So certainly I'm not you know team Jay Shehetty, nor
do I know him. But if he was on my
com app, I think I'd let him put me to sleep.
It's all I ever needed him for. It's all I
ever knew he was about. I need to give a

(09:48):
shout out about Christina Aguilera. I just happened to see
a clip of her on Drew Barrymore and Drew Berhmer.
Is adorable. I love her stock our earrings. It's super
cute and she's doing a great job. But Christina Aguilera
looks so good, like twelve out of ten.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
She looks spectacular, phenomenal. And I know her. I know her, and.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
It's I've met her several times, and I've been to
her house for a party, and I have enough institutional
knowledge to make this comment that she's great. She's nice,
she's sort of vulnerable and okay with being flawed. She's
a queen. She's fierce, she's so freaking talented. She goes

(10:44):
quiet when she wants to go quiet, she comes loud
when she's promoting something. She's amazing, Like, I just live
for Christina Aguilera, So I need to give her.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
A shout out. While I'm giving shout outs.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
I'd like to shout out Beyonce's country album. Now, I
don't know much about country, so I'm certainly no critic
and I can't comment with institutional knowledge or that I'm
educated on country music.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
I'm like a complete tourist in the space. But and
I don't know. I don't even know.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
I didn't even know if I liked her country song,
meaning you know, and like you don't know if you
like something, not in a way that you're criticizing them,
like you literally just don't know if you like it.
But sometimes after hearing something a while, you do. I
live for Empire state of mind. But the first time
I first few times I heard it, I didn't love it,
and then it became like I lived for it.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
So and that's jay Z, not her.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
But I just am saying that as a because that's
the one song in my life that I did not
know if I liked.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
And I can't believe that I'm even saying that at
the time.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
But anyway, Beyonce's song, I've heard a couple of times,
and I don't know exactly how I feel about it,
but I do know that I haven't stopped it can't
get out of my head with everything, like you want
to say it about anything, But like with the Saint Texas,
but also singing the antics like damnn it is so
freaking catchy. But that's also social media and TikTok when

(12:13):
you see something ten thousand times That Megan Trainer song
was like a worm in my head that I couldn't
get out. But this one, I really I think it's
in my mind twenty four hours a day.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
So I love Beyonce.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
She's so elegant, so fierce, so classy, so talented, like
some people just do it right. And she's not thirsty.
There's just a difference between someone who you know is
desperate and thirsty and someone who's not.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
So let's do.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Mega celebrities that we're thinking of that are not thirsty,
like this means they're queens. They're just comfortable in their
own skin. So Beyonce is a queen who is not thirsty.
She is comfortable in her own skin. Christina Aguilera is

(13:07):
a queen who is comfortable in her own skin.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
Oh, Alicia Keys a queen.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
It's funny because I'm thinking of the people that I
really admire and they're comfortable in their own skin, like
I always talk about them all. She's a queen, She's
comfortable in her own skin, Like she's not thirsty.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
I'm trying to think.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
I mean, Princess Kate is not thirsty, She's comfortable in
her own skin. I mean sometimes she can be a
little shy, a little introverted, and so maybe she wasn't
always comfortable in her own skin. But I feel like
she's like really gotten. There other people that I'm thinking about,

(13:59):
Like there's just a difference. I'm thinking of certain people.
It's not that easy, Like just because you're super famous
doesn't mean you're comfortable in your own skin. And I'm
really really trying to think of other ones. Think of
a list celebrities comfortable in their own skin. Let's get

(14:22):
back to that. I want you guys to think because
it's not that many people that are so comfortable. Wow,
I'm really trying, because there are some people that are
pretty comfortable, ninety percent comfortable, eighty percent comfortable, but not
fully And I really want to think about people that,
like you're one hundred percent sure that they really seem

(14:43):
like they just are comfortable.
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