September 7, 2023 • 41 mins
Tiffani reveals her first love and details at what point her secret passion was revealed. She and Bethenny discuss balancing career and motherhood and the important things they've learned raising daughters. Plus, can you guess what Tiffani calls the best thing to ever happen to her?! We're willing to bet you can't!
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
My guest.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Today's actress Tiffany Theeson. Her roles as Kelly Kapowski on
Saved by the Bell where I was a PA by
the Way, and Valerie Malone on Beverly Hill's nine oh
two one Oho made her a teen idol. But these days,
Tiffany is cooking up a storm on TikTok and her
second cookbook, Here We Go Again, comes out September twenty sixth.
(00:32):
This is just be with Tiffany Theeson. Let's get into it. Hi, Hi,
I haven't seen you, and we're not. I guess we're
not even allowed to talk about where we met, but
we we met. It's so weird on a show that
I was a PA on years ago on the beach
(00:53):
and I met Tiffany during the summer when you were a.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Kid, and we're talking about we're still chill.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
You're well, you're younger than I am, which doesn't seem
as different now, but then you were. You seem like
a kid because it was where I think I met you,
and I was when do you when did one graduate college?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (01:15):
If you really did go to college, I guess what
twenty two? Right?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
So I guess twenty two? Yeah, yeah, Okay, So I
met you when you were a kid, and I met
your I remember your.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Mom, and you were I just I can't believe how
long ago that was.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I met you, Mario Lopez, Elizabeth everyone, And now I've
come across your paths so many times in modern adult life.
And so now you're kind of like a sort of
a chef. You have cookbooks and you're it's it's like
a not a reinvention, but it's definitely a layer in
addition to.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
I think you more than anybody can talk about that,
you know, right, I mean, as women and as we
do get older, and I think times are changing, we're
constantly having to reinvent ourselves all the time.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Well, it feels like you want, like, not like you
have to. Like, you enjoy it, you like it, You're
liking these new sort of like. I don't get the
sense that you feel like you have to reinvent. I
get the sense that you are just exploring other aspects
of yourself because your previous life was one dimensional, linear,
and now you've got all these things you get to
(02:25):
do and be whatever you want.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
You're right, I mean, I'm very lucky to get to
do things that I enjoy and make a living out
of you know. So that's definitely something to be said
right there. But I would agree that it was much
more linear when I was younger, because it was like
the focus and everything was put onto acting and all that,
but food was always a side passion. I just didn't
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think that, especially at a young age, that I could
make a living out of it, you know, like that's
the thing. But I do believe as you get older
that it is important to show other aspects of yours
or passions or loves because it's it grows you as
a person. But also, you know, I think it's important
(03:10):
to show different sides of yourself. Again, I'm very lucky
to say that I can do that as a career.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
You know, well, what do your kids think you are
if they're talking to their friends, like what does your
mom do? Because I'm sure they see you on TikTok.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
And well it's different.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
My kids are both they're five years apart, so they're
very vastly different in the way they see the world
and how they're going through school. And so I have
a teenager and I have, you know, a young eight
year old.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
My eight year.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Old has grown up where he never watched my shows,
so he always only saw that I was doing cooking.
He says, he goes, Mom, you're a cooker. That's what
you do for a living, a cooker.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
That's so funny, you.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Or now he calls it, that's what he used to
say when he was little.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
I mean, he knows, you know, he's better at his
English now, but but you know, he's like, you know,
you show people how to cook.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
And I was like, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
I kind of do I inspire people, you know, That's
what I tell him. But when he was little, it
was like, you're a cooker. My daughter was on set
with me and since a very very young age. That
was a show that I was actually shooting in New
York City, and so she was like a set baby,
so she totally saw me as an actress. So she
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always knew and then my past as she's gotten older,
she's watched a lot of those shows now because she's thirteen,
and so she sees that that was my you know,
my sort of bigger career in what I've done my.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Whole life, and what do you think the path will hold? Like,
where do you do you see yourself? Doing both, Like
where do you see yourself? What road going on?
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Both roads?
Speaker 3 (04:46):
I mean, look, I've been able to be a I've
been very fortunate to be able to do both. No
one's working right now, right, Nor are my friends who
are stylist and wardrobe stylist and krum and makeup and
all that kind of stuff. So no one's working right now.
But but no, it's my first love. I mean, it's
it's it's kind of like your first child, right, It's
(05:09):
it's sort of that that sort of very precious, sacred
career that I have a lot of, uh a lot
of love and respect for and I still enjoy it.
And the fact that I've been able to sort of
continue and do many different roles as I was, you know,
starting at a young adult and teenager. Up until the
(05:31):
last one I was playing a mom, which you know,
my daughter loved that show. Like, you know, it's it's
cool to say that I'm still doing it. But again, like,
no one's doing it right now, So I hope you
can all, you know, go back.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
But do you feel well, do you feel anxiety about it?
I mean, thank god you have something else that you do,
but you definitely didn't think that was going to be
the key.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
So I think because I have something else, another outlet,
another sort of area that I love and I do make,
you know, I can, I can make and pay the
bills from that, I don't have as much pressure, if
that makes sense, Like I don't have to take roles
that I may not want to take roles, and I
can be I feel like I can be a little
more picky, and I have been for a while. So
(06:11):
you've been picky.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Even before you've been pit you were picky, and now
this is like an.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
I wasn't always picky, but I feel like as I've
gotten older, I can be picky to a certain degree,
right because I have other areas and you've worked.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
That's me now, Like I really can say I don't
do anything I don't want to do, but you're also
fit two years old.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
I feel I feel like that in everything in my life.
I say I say that about friends. I'm like, I'm
not gonna be with.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Friends same like, same same, and I'm not gonna eat
things I don't like and I'm not gonna Yeah, you
get that way, which is why it's interesting people who
stay single, it's harder for them to get into relationships
older because you get set in your ways. There are
just things that you will like dig your heels in
on and and I don't think that that's spoiled or entitled.
(06:58):
It's it's it's definitely fortunate.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
And just know yourself and you know what you want,
and you know what you stand for, and you know
what works for you. I mean, there's many reasons why
you're like that.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Right, Oh yes, But I mean that like in your
thirty I couldn't have afforded to do that in my thirties,
Like I just couldn't financially afford it, and even didn't
feel like I could in my forties. So I guess
it's a hard balance for a woman to decide, you know,
when you're gonna have kids, when you're gonna work. Because
I have a friend who was worried that her daughter's
killing herself working so hard in her twenties and like
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has no social life.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
I'm like, who gives a shit?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Work your ass off, make money, get on some sort
of a road, you know, so you could set yourself
up so later you can make independent decisions totally.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
And I think that's the thing that sort of has
been happening for a while, is that we are working
earlier and then settling for you know, marriages and kids
and all that later, right, I mean that's how I was.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
I was much yeah, and I had all that.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
I was watching a show where a woman asked another
woman about career and the balance and when you get married,
like giving up your career and wanting to have kids,
and it is really it's so cliche, but it is
a very challenging thing for a woman to do the
dance because you want to be there for your kids
when you're young, but you also don't want to give
(08:15):
up a career because you know.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
It's not so much marriage, right, because I was married
five years before we started having kids, and really there
wasn't a massive shift then, right, It wasn't really until
children came a part of that sort of relationship that
children do change.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
They change, you know, they change both of you. That's
the thing.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Oh, you're saying, the marriage isn't the thing. It's the children.
It doesn't matter. It's having children, even on your own
or with someone.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yes, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Do so you you you did you plan to have
such time between your kids. I don't want to say
I don't like to say accident, but like I ask
that question.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
So we definitely wanted wanted to wait. We we definitely
wanted to wait.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
And I think a little bit, I'll be totally honest,
was wanting to make sure that maybe I had a
job that was secure enough hence a TV show at
the time, that I would be able to get pregnant
and they'd be like, that's okay, we can build it
into the show or.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
You know, that's back to what we're talking about exactly.
You had to it's so interesting. You didn't want to
be like auditioning while pregnant, and then it.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
So hard to do that.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
You know, it's hard to do that, and then you know,
as you know, your body changes so much and it's
you know, the pregnancy to me is always I had
very easy pregnancies, and I know not every woman has that.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
It's always the for me.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
It was after it was that first six months after
that my body was just in my emotions and my
head and all of that was the hardest. Yeah, And
it was hard having a job and having to go
because I went right back to work six weeks later.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Well, it emotionally, it tears you up. Physically and emotionally too.
Completely you feel complete time.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
But I'm glad the show that I had. I'm glad
I had that show at that time. It was it
couldn't have been more perfect in that sense. Yes it
was hard, Yes, you know, I had to fly and
move back to New York and all that kind of stuff,
which was hard. But I was lucky enough to have
my mother come and live with us, my husband and
I and help us the entire time, which I look
back and say, how blessed we were to have, Like
(10:15):
my mom and my daughter had this amazing bond because
of all that time they got to spend together, you know.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
And what does your husband do? What businesses he is?
Speaker 3 (10:22):
He's an actor as well, but also he has another
career too. So his main career now is he's an
illustrator and author for children's books and is creating you know,
graphic novels which is being developed into a TV show
right now. So he's you know, taken another huge part
of his talent and shifted completely into a whole nother
(10:43):
into a whole nother side, which has been really fun.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Isn't that interesting? Though?
Speaker 2 (10:46):
The pandemic just as a concept kind of introduced us
to the snow globe being shaken up and it being
anxiety producing. But then if you really go look for
the fish, they're just in a different place. And so
what you're going through is sort of like an extent
of that, you know, like it's like you have another big, big,
gigantic seismic shift in your career. But yeah, leaning into
(11:07):
other things, and who knows where the fish are. I mean,
this will be an interesting.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Who knows what's going to happen even after this, and
there might be a third, one, fourth one. I mean,
I don't know, right, Yeah, I'm getting act with me
soon and I'm going to be starting a whole nother chapter,
you know, in my life again, and so I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
And I've said this before. It's funny.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
It's like, I think I feel more settled going into
my fifties than I even did.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
When I was in my forties, which I know, it's
interesting to me.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
I never thought that I would feel that way, but
I think, and I've I say this, I think it's
because I was having kids right in my late thirties
early forties that I wasn't settled yet because there was
so much going on emotionally, physically. It was all about them.
I probably wasn't putting a lot of time on myself.
Yeah yeah, where now my kids are a little older
(11:54):
and they're a little more settled, and I can come
back to myself and put a lot more time and
effort into me.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
You know, well, I think that might also be why people,
you know, a midlife crisis goes on, because you get
a lot of time to think about what this all is.
And I don't know if I've exactly had mine, but
I know that because you get older, it's a little
more boring. Like I'm not social, I don't really do much,
not going out getting wasted and like you know, meet
and guy like so you're kind of just the career
(12:22):
thing is really something that gives you something to kind
of get excited about highs and loos, like, you know,
to invest in. Otherwise you're just kind of just going through.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
And then because your kids are a little more subtled,
they're not needing you as much, right, they're not babies, And.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Your identity can be that.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Your identity can be that for so many people like
you gotta make lunch and we gotta do the costumes
and you got to get back, you know, and right now,
like back to school, obviously it's happening in your house too,
and that's like that's main character energy right now, back
to school. You know, my daughter physically is going through
something and she's feeling slightly you know, you have kids,
so you know, I don't want to go too bar
into it, but slightly insecure. And we're doing back to
school and I want to be you know, she wants
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to go back in like feeling confident. And so that's
a conversation in the house. And then you know that
age of like what are they doing?
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Are they kissing? Are they going to think about drinking?
Are they smoking? What the hell is going on?
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Yeah, like all the fond and the social media, which
my daughter doesn't have yet, but it's a conversation that
is being asked and talked about a lot.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
And the influence the filters and who they're looking at
and what they think is cool, and like it's hard
to tell a thirteen year old like you don't want
to do what everybody else does, Like that's just like
something but that's just.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Not part of it.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
And I have to remind myself that too, because I
remember myself literally having to figure that out, right, Like yes,
it's the time where you really do have to figure
that out. And following trends is part of it, Like
following others is part of it.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
And that's about following trends.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Well she's not on it, but yes, but yes, but
I know she's seen it in other places.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
No, Yeah, my name was Bethany and I wanted it
to be Jennifer desperately. I rather were so I just
did not want my name to be like this weird
different name. I was not into that funny yeah, like
it wasn't now like now the names of her friends
are so interesting and I haven't heard one name that
I've ever heard of.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Every name is like.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Eira and like Paloma and Ciara, like everybody's got this
exotic Brazilian sports illustrated model name. And we were like Rachel, Jennifer,
Karen John like so, yeah, the creativity and self expression
is very different now.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
So I get the sense that you're it's funny because
you're so known for being like this like young, hot bombshell,
and you don't. You are beautiful, you always have been,
but you lean now into like mom being mom being
natural and like caring as much.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
But that's my thing. I think. It's not that I
don't care, right, because I do. I do care, but.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
It's more of it's more of a feeling than it
is what it's exuding on the outside.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
You know, I get it, I do, right, I guess. Yeah.
You see, I'm.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Putting on a little concealer this morning, and I'm like, oh,
that's that's a little new right there, you know.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
But at the same time, I really try.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
And it's not I'm not perfect every day those days
that I go deep, but I really try on an overall,
just say to myself, I've earned that. I've earned a
little of this. I've earned this for really good reasons.
For being concerned about my children. Okay, that's a good
reason to have some of those wrinkles. To laugh with
my kids and my husband and my friends and my family,
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those are great reasons to have those wrinkles.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Interesting that you think of.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
It, I've heard other people say that what goes what
goes on with me is like for one thing, I've
always been a person that would rather feel healthy then
look good, So meaning if my face is covered in
make I will I'll feel dirty, like it's just the
thing for me, and I know it's trapping my pores,
and so I'll be like fresh faced and not looking
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as good and then I'll put on makeup with it.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Oh God, look at you.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
And I like the way I feel better the other
way because I just feel clean and healthy. But what's
really happening at this age? I feel it happened yesterday
I put on this We're just going for a beechwalk.
No one sees this, but I have this cute, like
roughly bikini and I put it on yesterday and it
just felt like a little ill fitting. It fit, but
it just didn't feel like it fit the same way,
(16:34):
and I didn't feel like I looked the same.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
And I just felt like a little And it's not
overly revealing.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I just felt a little desperate to myself. I'm not
seeing one per I looked at it and I felt
a little desperate, like what are you wearing?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Like?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
And it wasn't being mean to myself and like I
don't look good. It was just like I want to
wear what like a woman my age is wearing? Like
I know, it felt like a little old, but it
also felt a little right. It just felt like I
want to put on a nice, elegant one piece and
be a woman that wears an eye delligan one piece.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
I don't and I've been doing the one piece for
a while so and I am totally a okay with it.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
But you you could wear you could wear a bikini.
You just don't want.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
I mean, we all could wear bikinis. But I mean,
but I mean, but you would. I'm supposed to be
completely okay with whatever, you know, like I do love
that we're the whole self love and really trying to
accept what we are.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
But I don't know.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
I I I think one piece is hot.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I know, by the way, so do I.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
But I just mean that there was like an acceptance
and I know I look good in the beginning. I
could wear a bikini right now. No one would care.
Like if you took my head off and didn't know
how old I was, it would be fine. It was
just this feeling of like this is where I am,
and I like this, Like I like being a woman,
is what I'm saying. I like being a woman as
two years old.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
I liked it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I hear you.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
I told you to your point, Like I said, I
feel much more so and going into my fifties, and
I really do feel like I was going into my forties,
which is odd, But I do think a lot of
that has to do with just you know, hormones and
emotions and you know, having kids in my forty early
(18:16):
forties and stuff and being that all that is kind
of back there. I'm settled now, like this is my
next phase and I'm feeling good about myself. I'm embracing
I'm turning fifty. I'm not scared of it, and I
see that in myself differently, like that even than I
was when I was in my forties. Again, like I'm
spending time because I feel like I can now a
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little bit right. It's not just about my kids, and
I want to show that to my kids. I want
to show that it's important to put your own self,
you know.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
It feels like it's in a nurturing way versus a
superficial like you're not running to boot camp and taking
a care of yourself to be like ritten, no, no, But.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
I've always gone to the gym, I've always worked out.
I've always been very athletic and always trying to healthy
and take care of myself.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
But you know, I've made a.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Few little changes here and there, like I'm just I'm
not drinking as much, which I feel better not drinking
as much, saying yeah, you know, so that's been one
of the biggest changes. Between that and like, you know,
I've been very vocal about ice plunging. I've been doing
that for a while and it's really changed my life.
So tell me why. Well, I mean, there's so many reasons,
but I would say for myself, it started. I threw
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up my back actually right before Christmas last December, and
I have to say, like, I'm not I'm not a
person who struggles with depression or I'm a pretty optimistic person.
I really am, but it put me into a really,
really dark place. And I can understand when people have
something like that happen, or they're not able to do
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their every day it's it's debilitating mentally and physically, right,
And so you know, I've talked about this story where
I was trying to do everything I was supposed to
do right, and you know, I had to lay off
the gym, which was depressing in itself. I couldn't do
the normal things with my kids. I was literally in
bed trying to like I sit, and he didn't go
into my chiropractor and you know, doing all these things
(20:06):
that I needed to do. And it was one time
I went to my chiropractor and I really put a
lot of credit into him, doctor Gregg, and he literally
said to me, and he's known me longer than my husband,
and he goes, you know, I've never seen you this dark.
You walked in here with like a dark, rainy cloud
over you. He's like, I've never seen you like that.
And I go, but you don't understand. He goes, no,
I do understand, I said, But he goes, You're not
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going to change anything. All this work that you're trying
to do is not going to change until you change
your attitude. He goes, You've got to literally do a shift.
He goes, your mind is not going to help your
body if you're completely in the dark. And so it
was a huge mind shift of just kind of like, Okay,
this is this is what's.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Happening right now.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Maybe my back being thrown out was a little sign
telling me to slow the f down, right, Like, I'm
really trying to shift my mind into everything tries I
try to believe everything happens for a reason. And then
I just started taking care of myself. And my brother
in law and sister in law are big health people
and they've been icing for you know, doing ice bass
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for five years, like before it became popular, and so
we were going to see them, and I knew that
I would be able to start doing that again because
they do it all the time at their house.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
And I have a cold plunge pool. I don't really
use it. I have a bun one.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Yeah, I have a plunge too, But this is like
old school icing like ice. You go in ice with
a little bit of water, which bathtub and like literally
stock tanks, like the metal big stock tanks.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Right.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Oh, you don't even need to have the seed or thing.
You're just saying, like go into like a bin like
a thing.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
You can do it on your bathtub too, but it's
like getting all the ice from the store and literally
putting it in like old school sports.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Way, right, So you get all the ice from a
store and you do it this way.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Yeah, but I do it this way. But I also
I'm gonna say, I do have a plunge now, which
is awesome because it's okay you can just walk out
and do it. But what I'm saying is I started
doing that again with them, and I brought it back
to LA and I literally sort of doing it all
the time.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
And it what's all the time? Like every day?
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Well now I wasn't doing it every day, but I
was probably doing it four times a week, which is
what I'm still doing now with the plunge.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
And how three to five minutes Okay, laarired Hamilton is
very big into this. Yeah, yeah, and Gabby and so
three to five minutes and what goes on?
Speaker 1 (22:19):
What goes on?
Speaker 3 (22:20):
I mean, you know, it's hard, it's it's uh, it's
mentally challenging, which I like, yes, But I think the
biggest thing besides it helping my back for obvious reasons, right,
anti inflammatory and everything, the dopamine effect that I get
from it is like nothing else. And they and there's
and there's research showing like you know, wine can give
(22:43):
you a little bit of a kick of dopamine. Drugs
can do the same thing, but it drops, right, you
have the little high of a wine, you know, I
have a glass of wine, but it drops massively. It
becomes a depressant, right say, with drugs you know, ice
bathing doesn't do that. It keeps going for a couple
hours and then it gradually goes back to normal instead
of dropping. So that's why you feel like when you
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get out of those, you feel like you can like
climb Mount Everest.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
You know. Wow, I don't know if you ever feel
that ud Like, well, no, I passed out.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I have very, very drastic low blood pressure, to the
point where if I sleep eight hours, I'm so dehydrated
my blood pressure crashes. I can't even stand up. So wow,
I want I've gone into so I used to live
for sauna for cold plunge, even for just a second,
not like three minutes, but I went into it. I
have twice I fainted and I didn't know why. But
I fainted in a cryo tank. I just dropped to
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the floor. So I don't think I can do it because.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
It's so extreme.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Probably not, And it sucks because I would. I mean
that seems I also run cold, like I'm always cold.
But like that, I'm so jealous, Like I want I
have a sauna, I don't use it. I have a
cold plunge. I don't use it because I just it's
too extreme, but hard for you. Yeah, yeah, but you
do your face too.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
No, No, it's funny. I keep reading how much it's
great for your face my face.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Yeah. I've been seeing like on TikTok where people put
the straws and they put their face in ice, and
I'm like, oh, that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Okay, I could do the face.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
I would like to do the face. That's well, good
for you. I just love hearing about things like that.
That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
And are you vain? Am I vain?
Speaker 3 (24:17):
I don't feel like I am, but vain in one
said so myself like things that I like?
Speaker 1 (24:23):
You thinking that, I mean, things that I want, Like
what do you like get?
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Are you thinking about your appearance? A lot of thinking
about your body and your face and your skin.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
And it's funny. I again, I think about it. But
I feel in a healthier way than I did in
my thirties and forties.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
I understand.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
I understand because you're running around in so like I said,
you know, I'm looking and I'm like, okay, there's there's
you know, I'm getting. You know, I'm seeing it, and
I'm like, but that's okay, Like you know, I literally
say this, like I feel good.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
I feel good for almost being fifty. I feel good,
you know.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
And I don't know if I always constantly said that
to myself and thirties and forties, which is sad.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
I don't know if I did.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
I don't know if I did. I probably didn't. I didn't,
I probably didn't. And we have so many things.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
I look back at pictures and I look at myself
and I go, I remember not feeling great, and I'm
looking at it now and I'm like, that was stupid.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
I know it's right. He's wasted on the young. Youth
has wasted on the young one hundred percent. Do you
do you care about filler and botox?
Speaker 1 (25:22):
And I don't. I don't.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
I've been really good about trying to take care of
myself and I'm not against it because I have lots
of friends who do it, and I'm not saying I
never will do it, but I've been really trying to
age gracefully naturally. Who knows how long it'll hold up?
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Yeah? No, But what does your husband say about it?
Whatever makes you?
Speaker 3 (25:48):
I mean, he's not he's not that kind of guy
at all, so and he he's very I don't want
to say old school, but you know what I mean,
Like he's just he's just he's not at all, Like
the guy doesn't even half the time. I have to
remind him to shave even you know, get a haircut,
so get a No, he's just so not that he's
like the opposite, and which is funny because he is
an actor, but he's very much not that way. Like
(26:11):
I literally have to Like he's doing some videos right
now for a company doing art and they made him
go get a manicure and he's like, do I have
to do this every week?
Speaker 1 (26:19):
I mean its hilarious.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Well okay, So I want to talk about leftover. So
you've always been into cooking and food, but leftovers is
like a niche for you.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Well it is. It's funny.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
The idea came during COVID, like literally the start of COVID,
when we weren't going to the grocery store as much
because everybody was so afraid of it, right, and so
it kind of put me back into that sort of
thought process that I was like, you know, I was
actually raised like this. This is what my mom used
to do because we didn't come from a lot of money,
so my mom was always trying to stretch food for
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the entire week. So the roasted chicken that she made
on Monday, she was putting it into enchiladas on Tuesday,
you know what I mean. So it was always trying
to repurpose something.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
I just didn't marry that.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Yeah, so because but it was truly because we didn't
have a lot of money, and then we were kind
of forced to do that same sort of thing because
we just weren't going to the grocery store. So I
would really try to come up with a lot of
different things that I could then make into many different
dishes as we were starting COVID and not going to
the grocery store. And so it made me think, like,
you know, I've really tried to teach my kids about
(27:25):
food waste. I do believe that it's one of the
biggest contributors to global warming.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
I really do. There's massive research.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
It says right now, you know, the studies show that
we we literally almost take away, you know, about forty
percent of food. And you know, like we go to
the grocery store five bags of food we're dropping too
in the trash.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Like it's.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
I don't either, I'm really very if we go out
we love my daughter and I love to explore and
we're big foodies. But I'll say, and we can order
as much as we want, but we'll take it home.
We'll take it other things. I'll make sure. I'll make
life saut. I'll take a side of broccoli that I
wanted to have a couple of bites of and then
make it into an egg whitelm at the next I'm
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very like the roast chicken.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Becomes a soup.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
But I had a doctor tell me that leftovers, not
just because of the reduction and nutritional value, but for
people with autoimmune aren't good, and it really broke my heart.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
I was like, no, it's not.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Yeah, like there's some science behind taking food home. And
I don't know if it's the difference in the storage
or the back to I don't know, but I was disappointed,
but I still don't so sorry.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
So you got to I believe that there's massive importance
to it on a bigger global level, and also teaching
my children, which I'm huge, you know about about just
not wasting. And so I said, you know, there's a
book here. There's a different kind of cookbook that I
don't feel like I've ever seen before where it shows
people what they can do with already things that they
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have in their fridge, their pantries. So whether it is
the leftover chicken, or whether it is that little bit
of buttermilk that you bought for a recipe that you
have no idea what to do with and it gets wasted,
or that the ships that are broken at the bottom
of the bag that my kids are like, they're broken,
I'm not going to eat them. Well, I can show
you something to do with them, right, So it's stuff
like that to really kind of think outside the box
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a little bit of the things that are already there,
to really show that you can get creative in a
whole different way.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Yeah, I love that. I love that.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
I love when I see good uses of that too.
I love when I see like those companies that do
the broken canoli shells and then the cannoli came outside.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
That's the dip, because you know that came out of invention.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Stacey's Pita Chips. That's how it started. She had a
sandwich stand with her brother in Chicago. I think it
was it was freezing and the one thing they overbought
every day wasn't the meats and the vegetables was the
peeda because you can't run out of bread for sandwiches,
and so they would start making petas and that became
the thing that they were successful at, not the sandwich.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Yeah, you never know what it's going to be. Love that.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Yeah, she's she sold her company for two hundred and
fifty million dollars and it was the You know, it's
so funny because I mention her all the time. She
must be like, this woman's obsessed with me. He's on
the podcast years ago. But I tell her, oh, you know,
it's an amazing story. It's a totally amazing story. And
I and I agree, like it's it's something I feel
like everybody can relate to, and and and then a
whole other side of it. My husband is one of
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those people, and I know there are some people like
that who hate leftovers. And so it was kind of
my sort of a funny little game that I would
play where I would take something that he had no
idea was left over and make something new and totally
trick him. And he would always be like, I don't
want that anymore. I don't want the leftover bloody blow
from last night. You know, Yes, But then I just
(30:37):
wouldn't tell him, and then he would have no idea
because some people are left over, you know, they're they're ashamed,
or they just don't like the look of it, or
it feels like it's going to be gross tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
I think it's more like people have either touched her.
I don't know, he's weird.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
No, no, no, no, but I get that it is
there's something that can be gnarley, but you can like
refresh like fresh greens.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Make it by of the book. Yeah, that's of the book.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
So anyways, that's sort of how the spark of the
idea started. And then I really wanted to kind of
shoot it in a way that was very nostalgic for
me growing up in the seventies and eighties, and and
so I wanted it to be where people, you know,
if our age, would look at it and be like,
oh my gosh, my grandmother had that wallpaper, and my
grandmother had that mixing bowl, and my mom used to totally
have that you know, serving set and things like that
(31:22):
to kind of, you know, give a little model yes corning, well, yes,
all of it. You'll see all of it in the book. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Oh I love that.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Did did TikTok like, so enter TikTok that was recent
for you.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
And very recent. I thought I was too old.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
For it to be like I did. I was like,
I'm too old for this. Instagram's perfect for me and Facebook.
I don't need another platform. But then I saw the
blow up of food.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
That was happening on TikTok.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Yes, and now I'm hooked and I love seeing some
of the food that's happening. And they were like, you've
got to get on this. I'm like, okay, all right,
I'll add another one to me.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
And you're on food Talk mostly you're seeing Food Company.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Most of my stuff is no. I mean, I would
say it's a little bit of both. I mean, I
know it's important probably to be funny and do trends,
and I like showing my like, you know, my funny
side and stuff like that. And so and then my
daughter will every now and then engrace her presence at
if she gets you know, if she gets me the
okay to do it, because that's.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
What she likes it.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
I think she does. Yeah, she's done a couple with me.
I mean, you know, it's funny, Like I said, she
has to give me clearance.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
She has to have approval, which you know, I'm glad.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
She has a voice and she's telling me, and then
I have to let her know that I'm posting it
because a lot of her friends, of course, have social
media and she doesn't.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
So I just want her prepared when she goes to school.
It's so true.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
And a lot of her friends are your fans now
that wouldn't even have known of you, which is weird
because you go on the street and you have thirteen
year olds come up to you, which happens to me.
And also we're like the losers, like our kids are
not even on it as much as we are.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
We are those moms that are like dorks that are.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Doing TikTok and you know what I mean, it's like
it's like, what are you doing?
Speaker 1 (33:03):
I mean it's embarrassing. You know, it's fun.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
But I'm just like, I know, Brinn, I'm doing a TikTok.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Right, I know, it's true, it's very fun. I never
thought I would, but here here I am. It's the reverse, okay.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
So I always find out interesting things about people on
those lists, like things you don't know about me, so
packing a car, like but are you good at packing
everything or just packing that car.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
I mean I am so type a. Literally. My husband
will bring everything down and then I pack it. It's
like it's like jinga, oh I got it. Yeah. Two
kids like that too, And is your daughter like sure, no,
not at all?
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Oh my kids are I think both my kids, I
think are a little more like my husband.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Oh okay, oh really no my daughters and then gets
it and then forgets it, you know, like he's like
I forgot my sunglasses when we were in Hawaii and
I was like, really, are you serious?
Speaker 3 (33:56):
But he you know, like I make lists. I have
lists that are on going my pack. You know, that's
just who I am. I'm my packing list. Same yeah,
but I do it with everything, whether it's groceries or
or to do lists or whatever it is. I'm very yes.
I mean, my husband makes fun of the fact that
I'm so anal, but you know that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
And I've read that you love so you love Thrive
Miscaret's your favorite.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
I do very good.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
I like that very I But I'll tell you having
a teenage daughter, I'm learning about makeup even more now
because I feel like I'm so set in my ways
and if a makeup art, my makeup artist isn't telling
me about it. I'm never going to change, right, I
just I like what I like and it's done. But
she's the one now that she's starting to worry a
little makeup. She's like, Mom, you got to try this
new mess scare. I'm like, where did you go? Where
did you get this?
Speaker 1 (34:41):
You know, well, if you like to drive, you'll like it.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Superhero also, oh, my Superhero is very good and the
inexpensive great option is essence essence. I think it's called
princess Lashka. Do all these like crazy comparisons, and I
don't even wear makeup, and I become an expert on
it for no reason, for no good reason.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
I mean, scare is like the one staple that you know.
I mean I generally don't wear makeup during the day,
but if I'm gonna wear any makeup, it's a little
concealer and it's mascara.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Oh I would I don't think about my scare. Even
though I don't have very long I have long eyelashes,
but they're straight, like they go forward. I would be
I think concealer or like some sort of like a yeah,
concealer or tinted SPF and liptops and I have not.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
I don't have as se. I hardly ever wear except
for like Chastick, so I would pick. I would pick
mascara over it.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
So I want a lot of people say that I
want to get more into a scare because people do.
I guess because it just opens up your eyes. But
I guess, and then you didn't.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
I feel like that's where everybody looks like, you know.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
I'm getting into scare today, but you didn't get into
You didn't get lashes though, like the the ones that
last because you don't want it on your face.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Well, you know what's fun is years ago when it
started to become popular to get those lashes put on,
they wrecked my lashes and I swear it never go back.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
And I yes, it's like fake nails. All my eyelashes out.
I felt like, and I was sitting there trying to
grow them.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Back, and you know, like they took a lot out,
and I was like, I will never do this again.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
No, I'm never doing it again either here in that No,
And that's the same thing the kids wanted to gel
on the nails. I'm like, it's gonna rip your freaking
nails out.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
I know. I've had this conversation again with my daughter
and she wants them so badly, and I said, no,
you're not, because they all have the fake nails and
I'm like, don't you have such beautiful nails. No, it's
the worst possible.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
And the dye they want to dye the hair, well,
tell her to get the dazzle dry. It's a type
of nail polish that the salon has. It lasts a
little bit longer. It's a good happy meetium because it
yeah dazzled dry. It does chip off in two days.
To their point, it's annoying. They get a manica. They
look you two days, I know it's gone.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
And and I make her kind of pay for.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
A lot of this stuff now, you know, like it's
part of like learning, and yeah, I agree that, so
it's hard.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
I know, I agree. So, okay, we know people in
common from that era. And it was like it was
very gossipy, Like I was a PA and I was
(37:19):
like it was very gossipy, like me just like being
a fly on the wall with all the young kids
that came through, and like all the different I've met
in my old life. I met Tory Spelling and Denise
Richard's in this world that we crossed over, INNODYA, who
do you speak to? Are you still friends with these
people that you kind.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Of got me?
Speaker 3 (37:35):
I'm still very close with with that first cast, so
Elizabeth and Mario and Mark Paul and all of them. Yes,
very I mean I just saw Mario and you are, yeah,
very very close. Yeah, totally, I see. I probably see
Mario the most. I would say I have the longest,
deepest relationship with Mark Paul because my husband and Mark
(37:55):
Paul are also very close. Oh really, but he just
moved from my life, so he's not here La anymore.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Sadly.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
Yeah, he went down south a little a little more
south from here. So yeah, So I would say that
out of the you know there, Mario and Mark Paul
are probably the ones I'm closest to. But like Matt
Bomer I'm still very close with and Tim Decay who
played with my husband, and so very close with them.
And as you know, we had a huge loss with
(38:22):
Willie Garson a few years back, which still still still
is so hard for me to understand that he's not here.
It's just it's you know, I go back and look
at my pictures and stuff, and it's just it's interesting
now that you're getting older, you know, you do lose
people in your life, right, and so it's it's pretty
pretty kind of crazy, the whole death thing. You know,
(38:42):
Like I lost my grandmother, which was an interesting because
you know, the process of it was actually quite beautiful,
and she was ninety six and it was, you know,
like she lived an amazing long life. But during the
same time, I was losing a friend who was way
too young to be to be going through that, and
it's it's a really interesting I learned. I learned a
(39:03):
lot about just myself and death and emotions and life
and and love and all those types of things, you know.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
But anyways, but no, no, no, no, it's it's because
when you were talking, you know, you just provoked something
to me where I think about, you know, how how
close I am with my daughter, and then you like
do the numbers and the age and like when she's
my age, you know, like I don't be here, and
you do that thing in your mind and it's noisy
and it's anxiety producing and you feel for her because
(39:34):
I had a child later, so I feel for her,
because I won't be here as long as if I
had a kid. That's the other thing we were talking
about about when to have kids, because one way, you
have a kid at twenty three, like you really spend
your whole life with them, yep, together, you know as ye,
and when you choose to do that later, you're leaving them.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
But let's hope that people are living longer, right because
we are, Yes, you generally are, so maybe that sort
of evens out a little bit more, right, that's what
that's true.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
I'm telling us. No, it's true too, but it's it is.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
But you know, like my grandmother lived till ninety six
and and that's amazing, unbelievable, unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
And and and yeah, my fiance's grandmother is that same age.
And it's like, you know, you're starting to prepare and
talk about and think about, but you don't want to
think about. And it's like, yeah, it's a circle of life.
And teaching kids that too.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Very much the circle of life totally.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
You don't want them to be too immersed in that topic,
but you want them to understand that well, but you
want to.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Understand and we have ant like we we have animal,
lots of animals, and we have chickens and and so
the circle of life has been very much a part
of like.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Oh crazy animals.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
Yes, it's really interesting and the natural part of like
you know, we've had chickens that have gone to other
places because of other animals, and so they learned at
a very young age that you know, this is part
of life and and this is no differently in the
animal world than it is in the human world sometimes,
you know.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
It's so true.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
And dogs, the dog conversation, the dog conversations.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
Lost dogs with our kids young, you know, when they
were younger. So I hope they have a healthy outlook
on death because it is a part of life, right, it.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
Is, Yes, it is. It is a part of life
that we try to avoid talking about. Wow, well, I
want to like see you when I'm in La one
of these days. I was so glad to reconnect with you. Honestly,
it was so nice as timmy, thank you, and I'd
love to.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
Send you the book as well. I want it ready
to be one hundred. Thank you. I have a good
rest of your day. Thank you to bye.
My guest.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Today's actress Tiffany Theeson. Her roles as Kelly Kapowski on
Saved by the Bell where I was a PA by
the Way, and Valerie Malone on Beverly Hill's nine oh
two one Oho made her a teen idol. But these days,
Tiffany is cooking up a storm on TikTok and her
second cookbook, Here We Go Again, comes out September twenty sixth.
(00:32):
This is just be with Tiffany Theeson. Let's get into it. Hi, Hi,
I haven't seen you, and we're not. I guess we're
not even allowed to talk about where we met, but
we we met. It's so weird on a show that
I was a PA on years ago on the beach
(00:53):
and I met Tiffany during the summer when you were a.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Kid, and we're talking about we're still chill.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
You're well, you're younger than I am, which doesn't seem
as different now, but then you were. You seem like
a kid because it was where I think I met you,
and I was when do you when did one graduate college?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (01:15):
If you really did go to college, I guess what
twenty two? Right?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
So I guess twenty two? Yeah, yeah, Okay, So I
met you when you were a kid, and I met
your I remember your.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Mom, and you were I just I can't believe how
long ago that was.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I met you, Mario Lopez, Elizabeth everyone, And now I've
come across your paths so many times in modern adult life.
And so now you're kind of like a sort of
a chef. You have cookbooks and you're it's it's like
a not a reinvention, but it's definitely a layer in
addition to.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
I think you more than anybody can talk about that,
you know, right, I mean, as women and as we
do get older, and I think times are changing, we're
constantly having to reinvent ourselves all the time.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Well, it feels like you want, like, not like you
have to. Like, you enjoy it, you like it, You're
liking these new sort of like. I don't get the
sense that you feel like you have to reinvent. I
get the sense that you are just exploring other aspects
of yourself because your previous life was one dimensional, linear,
and now you've got all these things you get to
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do and be whatever you want.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
You're right, I mean, I'm very lucky to get to
do things that I enjoy and make a living out
of you know. So that's definitely something to be said
right there. But I would agree that it was much
more linear when I was younger, because it was like
the focus and everything was put onto acting and all that,
but food was always a side passion. I just didn't
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think that, especially at a young age, that I could
make a living out of it, you know, like that's
the thing. But I do believe as you get older
that it is important to show other aspects of yours
or passions or loves because it's it grows you as
a person. But also, you know, I think it's important
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to show different sides of yourself. Again, I'm very lucky
to say that I can do that as a career.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
You know, well, what do your kids think you are
if they're talking to their friends, like what does your
mom do? Because I'm sure they see you on TikTok.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
And well it's different.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
My kids are both they're five years apart, so they're
very vastly different in the way they see the world
and how they're going through school. And so I have
a teenager and I have, you know, a young eight
year old.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
My eight year.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Old has grown up where he never watched my shows,
so he always only saw that I was doing cooking.
He says, he goes, Mom, you're a cooker. That's what
you do for a living, a cooker.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
That's so funny, you.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Or now he calls it, that's what he used to
say when he was little.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
I mean, he knows, you know, he's better at his
English now, but but you know, he's like, you know,
you show people how to cook.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
And I was like, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
I kind of do I inspire people, you know, That's
what I tell him. But when he was little, it
was like, you're a cooker. My daughter was on set
with me and since a very very young age. That
was a show that I was actually shooting in New
York City, and so she was like a set baby,
so she totally saw me as an actress. So she
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always knew and then my past as she's gotten older,
she's watched a lot of those shows now because she's thirteen,
and so she sees that that was my you know,
my sort of bigger career in what I've done my.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Whole life, and what do you think the path will hold? Like,
where do you do you see yourself? Doing both, Like
where do you see yourself? What road going on?
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Both roads?
Speaker 3 (04:46):
I mean, look, I've been able to be a I've
been very fortunate to be able to do both. No
one's working right now, right, Nor are my friends who
are stylist and wardrobe stylist and krum and makeup and
all that kind of stuff. So no one's working right now.
But but no, it's my first love. I mean, it's
it's it's kind of like your first child, right, It's
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it's sort of that that sort of very precious, sacred
career that I have a lot of, uh a lot
of love and respect for and I still enjoy it.
And the fact that I've been able to sort of
continue and do many different roles as I was, you know,
starting at a young adult and teenager. Up until the
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last one I was playing a mom, which you know,
my daughter loved that show. Like, you know, it's it's
cool to say that I'm still doing it. But again, like,
no one's doing it right now, So I hope you
can all, you know, go back.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
But do you feel well, do you feel anxiety about it?
I mean, thank god you have something else that you do,
but you definitely didn't think that was going to be
the key.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
So I think because I have something else, another outlet,
another sort of area that I love and I do make,
you know, I can, I can make and pay the
bills from that, I don't have as much pressure, if
that makes sense, Like I don't have to take roles
that I may not want to take roles, and I
can be I feel like I can be a little
more picky, and I have been for a while. So
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you've been picky.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Even before you've been pit you were picky, and now
this is like an.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
I wasn't always picky, but I feel like as I've
gotten older, I can be picky to a certain degree,
right because I have other areas and you've worked.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
That's me now, Like I really can say I don't
do anything I don't want to do, but you're also
fit two years old.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
I feel I feel like that in everything in my life.
I say I say that about friends. I'm like, I'm
not gonna be with.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Friends same like, same same, and I'm not gonna eat
things I don't like and I'm not gonna Yeah, you
get that way, which is why it's interesting people who
stay single, it's harder for them to get into relationships
older because you get set in your ways. There are
just things that you will like dig your heels in
on and and I don't think that that's spoiled or entitled.
(06:58):
It's it's it's definitely fortunate.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
And just know yourself and you know what you want,
and you know what you stand for, and you know
what works for you. I mean, there's many reasons why
you're like that.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Right, Oh yes, But I mean that like in your
thirty I couldn't have afforded to do that in my thirties,
Like I just couldn't financially afford it, and even didn't
feel like I could in my forties. So I guess
it's a hard balance for a woman to decide, you know,
when you're gonna have kids, when you're gonna work. Because
I have a friend who was worried that her daughter's
killing herself working so hard in her twenties and like
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has no social life.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
I'm like, who gives a shit?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Work your ass off, make money, get on some sort
of a road, you know, so you could set yourself
up so later you can make independent decisions totally.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
And I think that's the thing that sort of has
been happening for a while, is that we are working
earlier and then settling for you know, marriages and kids
and all that later, right, I mean that's how I was.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
I was much yeah, and I had all that.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
I was watching a show where a woman asked another
woman about career and the balance and when you get married,
like giving up your career and wanting to have kids,
and it is really it's so cliche, but it is
a very challenging thing for a woman to do the
dance because you want to be there for your kids
when you're young, but you also don't want to give
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up a career because you know.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
It's not so much marriage, right, because I was married
five years before we started having kids, and really there
wasn't a massive shift then, right, It wasn't really until
children came a part of that sort of relationship that
children do change.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
They change, you know, they change both of you. That's
the thing.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Oh, you're saying, the marriage isn't the thing. It's the children.
It doesn't matter. It's having children, even on your own
or with someone.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yes, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Do so you you you did you plan to have
such time between your kids. I don't want to say
I don't like to say accident, but like I ask
that question.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
So we definitely wanted wanted to wait. We we definitely
wanted to wait.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
And I think a little bit, I'll be totally honest,
was wanting to make sure that maybe I had a
job that was secure enough hence a TV show at
the time, that I would be able to get pregnant
and they'd be like, that's okay, we can build it
into the show or.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
You know, that's back to what we're talking about exactly.
You had to it's so interesting. You didn't want to
be like auditioning while pregnant, and then it.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
So hard to do that.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
You know, it's hard to do that, and then you know,
as you know, your body changes so much and it's
you know, the pregnancy to me is always I had
very easy pregnancies, and I know not every woman has that.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
It's always the for me.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
It was after it was that first six months after
that my body was just in my emotions and my
head and all of that was the hardest. Yeah, And
it was hard having a job and having to go
because I went right back to work six weeks later.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Well, it emotionally, it tears you up. Physically and emotionally too.
Completely you feel complete time.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
But I'm glad the show that I had. I'm glad
I had that show at that time. It was it
couldn't have been more perfect in that sense. Yes it
was hard, Yes, you know, I had to fly and
move back to New York and all that kind of stuff,
which was hard. But I was lucky enough to have
my mother come and live with us, my husband and
I and help us the entire time, which I look
back and say, how blessed we were to have, Like
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my mom and my daughter had this amazing bond because
of all that time they got to spend together, you know.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
And what does your husband do? What businesses he is?
Speaker 3 (10:22):
He's an actor as well, but also he has another
career too. So his main career now is he's an
illustrator and author for children's books and is creating you know,
graphic novels which is being developed into a TV show
right now. So he's you know, taken another huge part
of his talent and shifted completely into a whole nother
(10:43):
into a whole nother side, which has been really fun.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Isn't that interesting? Though?
Speaker 2 (10:46):
The pandemic just as a concept kind of introduced us
to the snow globe being shaken up and it being
anxiety producing. But then if you really go look for
the fish, they're just in a different place. And so
what you're going through is sort of like an extent
of that, you know, like it's like you have another big, big,
gigantic seismic shift in your career. But yeah, leaning into
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other things, and who knows where the fish are. I mean,
this will be an interesting.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Who knows what's going to happen even after this, and
there might be a third, one, fourth one. I mean,
I don't know, right, Yeah, I'm getting act with me
soon and I'm going to be starting a whole nother chapter,
you know, in my life again, and so I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
And I've said this before. It's funny.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
It's like, I think I feel more settled going into
my fifties than I even did.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
When I was in my forties, which I know, it's
interesting to me.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
I never thought that I would feel that way, but
I think, and I've I say this, I think it's
because I was having kids right in my late thirties
early forties that I wasn't settled yet because there was
so much going on emotionally, physically. It was all about them.
I probably wasn't putting a lot of time on myself.
Yeah yeah, where now my kids are a little older
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and they're a little more settled, and I can come
back to myself and put a lot more time and
effort into me.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
You know, well, I think that might also be why people,
you know, a midlife crisis goes on, because you get
a lot of time to think about what this all is.
And I don't know if I've exactly had mine, but
I know that because you get older, it's a little
more boring. Like I'm not social, I don't really do much,
not going out getting wasted and like you know, meet
and guy like so you're kind of just the career
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thing is really something that gives you something to kind
of get excited about highs and loos, like, you know,
to invest in. Otherwise you're just kind of just going through.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
And then because your kids are a little more subtled,
they're not needing you as much, right, they're not babies, And.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Your identity can be that.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Your identity can be that for so many people like
you gotta make lunch and we gotta do the costumes
and you got to get back, you know, and right now,
like back to school, obviously it's happening in your house too,
and that's like that's main character energy right now, back
to school. You know, my daughter physically is going through
something and she's feeling slightly you know, you have kids,
so you know, I don't want to go too bar
into it, but slightly insecure. And we're doing back to
school and I want to be you know, she wants
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to go back in like feeling confident. And so that's
a conversation in the house. And then you know that
age of like what are they doing?
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Are they kissing? Are they going to think about drinking?
Are they smoking? What the hell is going on?
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Yeah, like all the fond and the social media, which
my daughter doesn't have yet, but it's a conversation that
is being asked and talked about a lot.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
And the influence the filters and who they're looking at
and what they think is cool, and like it's hard
to tell a thirteen year old like you don't want
to do what everybody else does, Like that's just like
something but that's just.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Not part of it.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
And I have to remind myself that too, because I
remember myself literally having to figure that out, right, Like yes,
it's the time where you really do have to figure
that out. And following trends is part of it, Like
following others is part of it.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
And that's about following trends.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Well she's not on it, but yes, but yes, but
I know she's seen it in other places.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
No, Yeah, my name was Bethany and I wanted it
to be Jennifer desperately. I rather were so I just
did not want my name to be like this weird
different name. I was not into that funny yeah, like
it wasn't now like now the names of her friends
are so interesting and I haven't heard one name that
I've ever heard of.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Every name is like.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Eira and like Paloma and Ciara, like everybody's got this
exotic Brazilian sports illustrated model name. And we were like Rachel, Jennifer,
Karen John like so, yeah, the creativity and self expression
is very different now.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
So I get the sense that you're it's funny because
you're so known for being like this like young, hot bombshell,
and you don't. You are beautiful, you always have been,
but you lean now into like mom being mom being
natural and like caring as much.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
But that's my thing. I think. It's not that I
don't care, right, because I do. I do care, but.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
It's more of it's more of a feeling than it
is what it's exuding on the outside.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
You know, I get it, I do, right, I guess. Yeah.
You see, I'm.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Putting on a little concealer this morning, and I'm like, oh,
that's that's a little new right there, you know.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
But at the same time, I really try.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
And it's not I'm not perfect every day those days
that I go deep, but I really try on an overall,
just say to myself, I've earned that. I've earned a
little of this. I've earned this for really good reasons.
For being concerned about my children. Okay, that's a good
reason to have some of those wrinkles. To laugh with
my kids and my husband and my friends and my family,
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those are great reasons to have those wrinkles.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Interesting that you think of.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
It, I've heard other people say that what goes what
goes on with me is like for one thing, I've
always been a person that would rather feel healthy then
look good, So meaning if my face is covered in
make I will I'll feel dirty, like it's just the
thing for me, and I know it's trapping my pores,
and so I'll be like fresh faced and not looking
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as good and then I'll put on makeup with it.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Oh God, look at you.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
And I like the way I feel better the other
way because I just feel clean and healthy. But what's
really happening at this age? I feel it happened yesterday
I put on this We're just going for a beechwalk.
No one sees this, but I have this cute, like
roughly bikini and I put it on yesterday and it
just felt like a little ill fitting. It fit, but
it just didn't feel like it fit the same way,
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and I didn't feel like I looked the same.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
And I just felt like a little And it's not
overly revealing.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I just felt a little desperate to myself. I'm not
seeing one per I looked at it and I felt
a little desperate, like what are you wearing?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Like?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
And it wasn't being mean to myself and like I
don't look good. It was just like I want to
wear what like a woman my age is wearing? Like
I know, it felt like a little old, but it
also felt a little right. It just felt like I
want to put on a nice, elegant one piece and
be a woman that wears an eye delligan one piece.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
I don't and I've been doing the one piece for
a while so and I am totally a okay with it.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
But you you could wear you could wear a bikini.
You just don't want.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
I mean, we all could wear bikinis. But I mean,
but I mean, but you would. I'm supposed to be
completely okay with whatever, you know, like I do love
that we're the whole self love and really trying to
accept what we are.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
But I don't know.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
I I I think one piece is hot.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I know, by the way, so do I.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
But I just mean that there was like an acceptance
and I know I look good in the beginning. I
could wear a bikini right now. No one would care.
Like if you took my head off and didn't know
how old I was, it would be fine. It was
just this feeling of like this is where I am,
and I like this, Like I like being a woman,
is what I'm saying. I like being a woman as
two years old.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
I liked it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I hear you.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
I told you to your point, Like I said, I
feel much more so and going into my fifties, and
I really do feel like I was going into my forties,
which is odd, But I do think a lot of
that has to do with just you know, hormones and
emotions and you know, having kids in my forty early
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forties and stuff and being that all that is kind
of back there. I'm settled now, like this is my
next phase and I'm feeling good about myself. I'm embracing
I'm turning fifty. I'm not scared of it, and I
see that in myself differently, like that even than I
was when I was in my forties. Again, like I'm
spending time because I feel like I can now a
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little bit right. It's not just about my kids, and
I want to show that to my kids. I want
to show that it's important to put your own self,
you know.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
It feels like it's in a nurturing way versus a
superficial like you're not running to boot camp and taking
a care of yourself to be like ritten, no, no, But.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
I've always gone to the gym, I've always worked out.
I've always been very athletic and always trying to healthy
and take care of myself.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
But you know, I've made a.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Few little changes here and there, like I'm just I'm
not drinking as much, which I feel better not drinking
as much, saying yeah, you know, so that's been one
of the biggest changes. Between that and like, you know,
I've been very vocal about ice plunging. I've been doing
that for a while and it's really changed my life.
So tell me why. Well, I mean, there's so many reasons,
but I would say for myself, it started. I threw
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up my back actually right before Christmas last December, and
I have to say, like, I'm not I'm not a
person who struggles with depression or I'm a pretty optimistic person.
I really am, but it put me into a really,
really dark place. And I can understand when people have
something like that happen, or they're not able to do
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their every day it's it's debilitating mentally and physically, right,
And so you know, I've talked about this story where
I was trying to do everything I was supposed to
do right, and you know, I had to lay off
the gym, which was depressing in itself. I couldn't do
the normal things with my kids. I was literally in
bed trying to like I sit, and he didn't go
into my chiropractor and you know, doing all these things
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that I needed to do. And it was one time
I went to my chiropractor and I really put a
lot of credit into him, doctor Gregg, and he literally
said to me, and he's known me longer than my husband,
and he goes, you know, I've never seen you this dark.
You walked in here with like a dark, rainy cloud
over you. He's like, I've never seen you like that.
And I go, but you don't understand. He goes, no,
I do understand, I said, But he goes, You're not
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going to change anything. All this work that you're trying
to do is not going to change until you change
your attitude. He goes, You've got to literally do a shift.
He goes, your mind is not going to help your
body if you're completely in the dark. And so it
was a huge mind shift of just kind of like, Okay,
this is this is what's.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Happening right now.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Maybe my back being thrown out was a little sign
telling me to slow the f down, right, Like, I'm
really trying to shift my mind into everything tries I
try to believe everything happens for a reason. And then
I just started taking care of myself. And my brother
in law and sister in law are big health people
and they've been icing for you know, doing ice bass
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for five years, like before it became popular, and so
we were going to see them, and I knew that
I would be able to start doing that again because
they do it all the time at their house.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
And I have a cold plunge pool. I don't really
use it. I have a bun one.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Yeah, I have a plunge too, But this is like
old school icing like ice. You go in ice with
a little bit of water, which bathtub and like literally
stock tanks, like the metal big stock tanks.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Right.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Oh, you don't even need to have the seed or thing.
You're just saying, like go into like a bin like
a thing.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
You can do it on your bathtub too, but it's
like getting all the ice from the store and literally
putting it in like old school sports.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Way, right, So you get all the ice from a
store and you do it this way.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Yeah, but I do it this way. But I also
I'm gonna say, I do have a plunge now, which
is awesome because it's okay you can just walk out
and do it. But what I'm saying is I started
doing that again with them, and I brought it back
to LA and I literally sort of doing it all
the time.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
And it what's all the time? Like every day?
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Well now I wasn't doing it every day, but I
was probably doing it four times a week, which is
what I'm still doing now with the plunge.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
And how three to five minutes Okay, laarired Hamilton is
very big into this. Yeah, yeah, and Gabby and so
three to five minutes and what goes on?
Speaker 1 (22:19):
What goes on?
Speaker 3 (22:20):
I mean, you know, it's hard, it's it's uh, it's
mentally challenging, which I like, yes, But I think the
biggest thing besides it helping my back for obvious reasons, right,
anti inflammatory and everything, the dopamine effect that I get
from it is like nothing else. And they and there's
and there's research showing like you know, wine can give
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you a little bit of a kick of dopamine. Drugs
can do the same thing, but it drops, right, you
have the little high of a wine, you know, I
have a glass of wine, but it drops massively. It
becomes a depressant, right say, with drugs you know, ice
bathing doesn't do that. It keeps going for a couple
hours and then it gradually goes back to normal instead
of dropping. So that's why you feel like when you
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get out of those, you feel like you can like
climb Mount Everest.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
You know. Wow, I don't know if you ever feel
that ud Like, well, no, I passed out.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I have very, very drastic low blood pressure, to the
point where if I sleep eight hours, I'm so dehydrated
my blood pressure crashes. I can't even stand up. So wow,
I want I've gone into so I used to live
for sauna for cold plunge, even for just a second,
not like three minutes, but I went into it. I
have twice I fainted and I didn't know why. But
I fainted in a cryo tank. I just dropped to
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the floor. So I don't think I can do it because.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
It's so extreme.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Probably not, And it sucks because I would. I mean
that seems I also run cold, like I'm always cold.
But like that, I'm so jealous, Like I want I
have a sauna, I don't use it. I have a
cold plunge. I don't use it because I just it's
too extreme, but hard for you. Yeah, yeah, but you
do your face too.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
No, No, it's funny. I keep reading how much it's
great for your face my face.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Yeah. I've been seeing like on TikTok where people put
the straws and they put their face in ice, and
I'm like, oh, that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Okay, I could do the face.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
I would like to do the face. That's well, good
for you. I just love hearing about things like that.
That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
And are you vain? Am I vain?
Speaker 3 (24:17):
I don't feel like I am, but vain in one
said so myself like things that I like?
Speaker 1 (24:23):
You thinking that, I mean, things that I want, Like
what do you like get?
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Are you thinking about your appearance? A lot of thinking
about your body and your face and your skin.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
And it's funny. I again, I think about it. But
I feel in a healthier way than I did in
my thirties and forties.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
I understand.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
I understand because you're running around in so like I said,
you know, I'm looking and I'm like, okay, there's there's
you know, I'm getting. You know, I'm seeing it, and
I'm like, but that's okay, Like you know, I literally
say this, like I feel good.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
I feel good for almost being fifty. I feel good,
you know.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
And I don't know if I always constantly said that
to myself and thirties and forties, which is sad.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
I don't know if I did.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
I don't know if I did. I probably didn't. I didn't,
I probably didn't. And we have so many things.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
I look back at pictures and I look at myself
and I go, I remember not feeling great, and I'm
looking at it now and I'm like, that was stupid.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
I know it's right. He's wasted on the young. Youth
has wasted on the young one hundred percent. Do you
do you care about filler and botox?
Speaker 1 (25:22):
And I don't. I don't.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
I've been really good about trying to take care of
myself and I'm not against it because I have lots
of friends who do it, and I'm not saying I
never will do it, but I've been really trying to
age gracefully naturally. Who knows how long it'll hold up?
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Yeah? No, But what does your husband say about it?
Whatever makes you?
Speaker 3 (25:48):
I mean, he's not he's not that kind of guy
at all, so and he he's very I don't want
to say old school, but you know what I mean,
Like he's just he's just he's not at all, Like
the guy doesn't even half the time. I have to
remind him to shave even you know, get a haircut,
so get a No, he's just so not that he's
like the opposite, and which is funny because he is
an actor, but he's very much not that way. Like
(26:11):
I literally have to Like he's doing some videos right
now for a company doing art and they made him
go get a manicure and he's like, do I have
to do this every week?
Speaker 1 (26:19):
I mean its hilarious.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Well okay, So I want to talk about leftover. So
you've always been into cooking and food, but leftovers is
like a niche for you.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Well it is. It's funny.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
The idea came during COVID, like literally the start of COVID,
when we weren't going to the grocery store as much
because everybody was so afraid of it, right, and so
it kind of put me back into that sort of
thought process that I was like, you know, I was
actually raised like this. This is what my mom used
to do because we didn't come from a lot of money,
so my mom was always trying to stretch food for
(26:53):
the entire week. So the roasted chicken that she made
on Monday, she was putting it into enchiladas on Tuesday,
you know what I mean. So it was always trying
to repurpose something.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
I just didn't marry that.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Yeah, so because but it was truly because we didn't
have a lot of money, and then we were kind
of forced to do that same sort of thing because
we just weren't going to the grocery store. So I
would really try to come up with a lot of
different things that I could then make into many different
dishes as we were starting COVID and not going to
the grocery store. And so it made me think, like,
you know, I've really tried to teach my kids about
(27:25):
food waste. I do believe that it's one of the
biggest contributors to global warming.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
I really do. There's massive research.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
It says right now, you know, the studies show that
we we literally almost take away, you know, about forty
percent of food. And you know, like we go to
the grocery store five bags of food we're dropping too
in the trash.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Like it's.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
I don't either, I'm really very if we go out
we love my daughter and I love to explore and
we're big foodies. But I'll say, and we can order
as much as we want, but we'll take it home.
We'll take it other things. I'll make sure. I'll make
life saut. I'll take a side of broccoli that I
wanted to have a couple of bites of and then
make it into an egg whitelm at the next I'm
(28:06):
very like the roast chicken.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Becomes a soup.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
But I had a doctor tell me that leftovers, not
just because of the reduction and nutritional value, but for
people with autoimmune aren't good, and it really broke my heart.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
I was like, no, it's not.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Yeah, like there's some science behind taking food home. And
I don't know if it's the difference in the storage
or the back to I don't know, but I was disappointed,
but I still don't so sorry.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
So you got to I believe that there's massive importance
to it on a bigger global level, and also teaching
my children, which I'm huge, you know about about just
not wasting. And so I said, you know, there's a
book here. There's a different kind of cookbook that I
don't feel like I've ever seen before where it shows
people what they can do with already things that they
(28:50):
have in their fridge, their pantries. So whether it is
the leftover chicken, or whether it is that little bit
of buttermilk that you bought for a recipe that you
have no idea what to do with and it gets wasted,
or that the ships that are broken at the bottom
of the bag that my kids are like, they're broken,
I'm not going to eat them. Well, I can show
you something to do with them, right, So it's stuff
like that to really kind of think outside the box
(29:11):
a little bit of the things that are already there,
to really show that you can get creative in a
whole different way.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Yeah, I love that. I love that.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
I love when I see good uses of that too.
I love when I see like those companies that do
the broken canoli shells and then the cannoli came outside.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
That's the dip, because you know that came out of invention.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Stacey's Pita Chips. That's how it started. She had a
sandwich stand with her brother in Chicago. I think it
was it was freezing and the one thing they overbought
every day wasn't the meats and the vegetables was the
peeda because you can't run out of bread for sandwiches,
and so they would start making petas and that became
the thing that they were successful at, not the sandwich.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Yeah, you never know what it's going to be. Love that.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Yeah, she's she sold her company for two hundred and
fifty million dollars and it was the You know, it's
so funny because I mention her all the time. She
must be like, this woman's obsessed with me. He's on
the podcast years ago. But I tell her, oh, you know,
it's an amazing story. It's a totally amazing story. And
I and I agree, like it's it's something I feel
like everybody can relate to, and and and then a
whole other side of it. My husband is one of
(30:16):
those people, and I know there are some people like
that who hate leftovers. And so it was kind of
my sort of a funny little game that I would
play where I would take something that he had no
idea was left over and make something new and totally
trick him. And he would always be like, I don't
want that anymore. I don't want the leftover bloody blow
from last night. You know, Yes, But then I just
(30:37):
wouldn't tell him, and then he would have no idea
because some people are left over, you know, they're they're ashamed,
or they just don't like the look of it, or
it feels like it's going to be gross tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
I think it's more like people have either touched her.
I don't know, he's weird.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
No, no, no, no, but I get that it is
there's something that can be gnarley, but you can like
refresh like fresh greens.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Make it by of the book. Yeah, that's of the book.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
So anyways, that's sort of how the spark of the
idea started. And then I really wanted to kind of
shoot it in a way that was very nostalgic for
me growing up in the seventies and eighties, and and
so I wanted it to be where people, you know,
if our age, would look at it and be like,
oh my gosh, my grandmother had that wallpaper, and my
grandmother had that mixing bowl, and my mom used to totally
have that you know, serving set and things like that
(31:22):
to kind of, you know, give a little model yes corning, well, yes,
all of it. You'll see all of it in the book. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Oh I love that.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Did did TikTok like, so enter TikTok that was recent
for you.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
And very recent. I thought I was too old.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
For it to be like I did. I was like,
I'm too old for this. Instagram's perfect for me and Facebook.
I don't need another platform. But then I saw the
blow up of food.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
That was happening on TikTok.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Yes, and now I'm hooked and I love seeing some
of the food that's happening. And they were like, you've
got to get on this. I'm like, okay, all right,
I'll add another one to me.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
And you're on food Talk mostly you're seeing Food Company.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Most of my stuff is no. I mean, I would
say it's a little bit of both. I mean, I
know it's important probably to be funny and do trends,
and I like showing my like, you know, my funny
side and stuff like that. And so and then my
daughter will every now and then engrace her presence at
if she gets you know, if she gets me the
okay to do it, because that's.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
What she likes it.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
I think she does. Yeah, she's done a couple with me.
I mean, you know, it's funny, Like I said, she
has to give me clearance.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
She has to have approval, which you know, I'm glad.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
She has a voice and she's telling me, and then
I have to let her know that I'm posting it
because a lot of her friends, of course, have social
media and she doesn't.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
So I just want her prepared when she goes to school.
It's so true.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
And a lot of her friends are your fans now
that wouldn't even have known of you, which is weird
because you go on the street and you have thirteen
year olds come up to you, which happens to me.
And also we're like the losers, like our kids are
not even on it as much as we are.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
We are those moms that are like dorks that are.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Doing TikTok and you know what I mean, it's like
it's like, what are you doing?
Speaker 1 (33:03):
I mean it's embarrassing. You know, it's fun.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
But I'm just like, I know, Brinn, I'm doing a TikTok.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Right, I know, it's true, it's very fun. I never
thought I would, but here here I am. It's the reverse, okay.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
So I always find out interesting things about people on
those lists, like things you don't know about me, so
packing a car, like but are you good at packing
everything or just packing that car.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
I mean I am so type a. Literally. My husband
will bring everything down and then I pack it. It's
like it's like jinga, oh I got it. Yeah. Two
kids like that too, And is your daughter like sure, no,
not at all?
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Oh my kids are I think both my kids, I
think are a little more like my husband.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Oh okay, oh really no my daughters and then gets
it and then forgets it, you know, like he's like
I forgot my sunglasses when we were in Hawaii and
I was like, really, are you serious?
Speaker 3 (33:56):
But he you know, like I make lists. I have
lists that are on going my pack. You know, that's
just who I am. I'm my packing list. Same yeah,
but I do it with everything, whether it's groceries or
or to do lists or whatever it is. I'm very yes.
I mean, my husband makes fun of the fact that
I'm so anal, but you know that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
And I've read that you love so you love Thrive
Miscaret's your favorite.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
I do very good.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
I like that very I But I'll tell you having
a teenage daughter, I'm learning about makeup even more now
because I feel like I'm so set in my ways
and if a makeup art, my makeup artist isn't telling
me about it. I'm never going to change, right, I
just I like what I like and it's done. But
she's the one now that she's starting to worry a
little makeup. She's like, Mom, you got to try this
new mess scare. I'm like, where did you go? Where
did you get this?
Speaker 1 (34:41):
You know, well, if you like to drive, you'll like it.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Superhero also, oh, my Superhero is very good and the
inexpensive great option is essence essence. I think it's called
princess Lashka. Do all these like crazy comparisons, and I
don't even wear makeup, and I become an expert on
it for no reason, for no good reason.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
I mean, scare is like the one staple that you know.
I mean I generally don't wear makeup during the day,
but if I'm gonna wear any makeup, it's a little
concealer and it's mascara.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Oh I would I don't think about my scare. Even
though I don't have very long I have long eyelashes,
but they're straight, like they go forward. I would be
I think concealer or like some sort of like a yeah,
concealer or tinted SPF and liptops and I have not.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
I don't have as se. I hardly ever wear except
for like Chastick, so I would pick. I would pick
mascara over it.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
So I want a lot of people say that I
want to get more into a scare because people do.
I guess because it just opens up your eyes. But
I guess, and then you didn't.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
I feel like that's where everybody looks like, you know.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
I'm getting into scare today, but you didn't get into
You didn't get lashes though, like the the ones that
last because you don't want it on your face.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Well, you know what's fun is years ago when it
started to become popular to get those lashes put on,
they wrecked my lashes and I swear it never go back.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
And I yes, it's like fake nails. All my eyelashes out.
I felt like, and I was sitting there trying to
grow them.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Back, and you know, like they took a lot out,
and I was like, I will never do this again.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
No, I'm never doing it again either here in that No,
And that's the same thing the kids wanted to gel
on the nails. I'm like, it's gonna rip your freaking
nails out.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
I know. I've had this conversation again with my daughter
and she wants them so badly, and I said, no,
you're not, because they all have the fake nails and
I'm like, don't you have such beautiful nails. No, it's
the worst possible.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
And the dye they want to dye the hair, well,
tell her to get the dazzle dry. It's a type
of nail polish that the salon has. It lasts a
little bit longer. It's a good happy meetium because it
yeah dazzled dry. It does chip off in two days.
To their point, it's annoying. They get a manica. They
look you two days, I know it's gone.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
And and I make her kind of pay for.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
A lot of this stuff now, you know, like it's
part of like learning, and yeah, I agree that, so
it's hard.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
I know, I agree. So, okay, we know people in
common from that era. And it was like it was
very gossipy, Like I was a PA and I was
(37:19):
like it was very gossipy, like me just like being
a fly on the wall with all the young kids
that came through, and like all the different I've met
in my old life. I met Tory Spelling and Denise
Richard's in this world that we crossed over, INNODYA, who
do you speak to? Are you still friends with these
people that you kind.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Of got me?
Speaker 3 (37:35):
I'm still very close with with that first cast, so
Elizabeth and Mario and Mark Paul and all of them. Yes,
very I mean I just saw Mario and you are, yeah,
very very close. Yeah, totally, I see. I probably see
Mario the most. I would say I have the longest,
deepest relationship with Mark Paul because my husband and Mark
(37:55):
Paul are also very close. Oh really, but he just
moved from my life, so he's not here La anymore.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Sadly.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
Yeah, he went down south a little a little more
south from here. So yeah, So I would say that
out of the you know there, Mario and Mark Paul
are probably the ones I'm closest to. But like Matt
Bomer I'm still very close with and Tim Decay who
played with my husband, and so very close with them.
And as you know, we had a huge loss with
(38:22):
Willie Garson a few years back, which still still still
is so hard for me to understand that he's not here.
It's just it's you know, I go back and look
at my pictures and stuff, and it's just it's interesting
now that you're getting older, you know, you do lose
people in your life, right, and so it's it's pretty
pretty kind of crazy, the whole death thing. You know,
(38:42):
Like I lost my grandmother, which was an interesting because
you know, the process of it was actually quite beautiful,
and she was ninety six and it was, you know,
like she lived an amazing long life. But during the
same time, I was losing a friend who was way
too young to be to be going through that, and
it's it's a really interesting I learned. I learned a
(39:03):
lot about just myself and death and emotions and life
and and love and all those types of things, you know.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
But anyways, but no, no, no, no, it's it's because
when you were talking, you know, you just provoked something
to me where I think about, you know, how how
close I am with my daughter, and then you like
do the numbers and the age and like when she's
my age, you know, like I don't be here, and
you do that thing in your mind and it's noisy
and it's anxiety producing and you feel for her because
(39:34):
I had a child later, so I feel for her,
because I won't be here as long as if I
had a kid. That's the other thing we were talking
about about when to have kids, because one way, you
have a kid at twenty three, like you really spend
your whole life with them, yep, together, you know as ye,
and when you choose to do that later, you're leaving them.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
But let's hope that people are living longer, right because
we are, Yes, you generally are, so maybe that sort
of evens out a little bit more, right, that's what
that's true.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
I'm telling us. No, it's true too, but it's it is.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
But you know, like my grandmother lived till ninety six
and and that's amazing, unbelievable, unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
And and and yeah, my fiance's grandmother is that same age.
And it's like, you know, you're starting to prepare and
talk about and think about, but you don't want to
think about. And it's like, yeah, it's a circle of life.
And teaching kids that too.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Very much the circle of life totally.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
You don't want them to be too immersed in that topic,
but you want them to understand that well, but you
want to.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Understand and we have ant like we we have animal,
lots of animals, and we have chickens and and so
the circle of life has been very much a part
of like.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Oh crazy animals.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
Yes, it's really interesting and the natural part of like
you know, we've had chickens that have gone to other
places because of other animals, and so they learned at
a very young age that you know, this is part
of life and and this is no differently in the
animal world than it is in the human world sometimes,
you know.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
It's so true.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
And dogs, the dog conversation, the dog conversations.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
Lost dogs with our kids young, you know, when they
were younger. So I hope they have a healthy outlook
on death because it is a part of life, right, it.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
Is, Yes, it is. It is a part of life
that we try to avoid talking about. Wow, well, I
want to like see you when I'm in La one
of these days. I was so glad to reconnect with you. Honestly,
it was so nice as timmy, thank you, and I'd
love to.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
Send you the book as well. I want it ready
to be one hundred. Thank you. I have a good
rest of your day. Thank you to bye.
Host
Bethenny Frankel
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