April 3, 2025 • 18 mins
The calendar was wrong, but the outfits were right—and honestly, that’s what matters.
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
So I don't think I told you guys the story
about alex Earle. It was on social media, but I'll
give you context and if you don't know the story,
if you don't know alps Orla. She's a young I
think twenty four year old influencer on TikTok and Instagram
and I'm sure snap and YouTube, and she and I
have texted in the past, just briefly via Instagram, not
(00:36):
about anything. She asked me a question one time, then
I asked her a question one time, and then I
gave her advice about something, and then she asked me
if i'd do something work wise with her, which I did,
and then I said, if I'm in Miami, let's get together.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
And we were supposed to go to dinner.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
And I made a reservation at Carbone because I thought like,
that's first I made a reservation at like this other place.
But I feel like the people really were trying to
get us in there and wanted sort of that keyr
about it. So I then aborted and I was like,
let me just call Carbone, and I thought, like that's bougie.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
And she wrecks.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Some would like that because I don't know if I
thought they I think I thought they were both coming together.
I needed the reservation for them both to come together.
I don't know how often they are together. I don't know,
you know what I mean, if they have independent lives,
it seems on social media like they're together. Grabston is
a Miami Dolphins player, but I guess now he's moving
to Texas. So I booked Carbone and we confirmed it.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I confirmed.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
She asked me if I wanted to do this charity
thing of hers that I couldn't do, and then we
confirmed thh which was Thursday.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
And I was tired that day. I remember I don't think.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I think I'd gotten a massage maybe, and I was
like a little leg zombie. And so I go to
Carbone and I know the guy there, and I sat
in this big gave me this gorgeous giant booth and
I sat down, and once I was settled, I texted
her to say, you know, main room, far corner booth,
and my phone started ringing and it was her, which
(02:10):
it doesn't seem it seems atypical. And she was like,
oh my god, my heart is in my stomach. I'm
dying right now. No, She's like, is it wait, it's
is it tonight. It's tonight, that's what she said. I
was like, oh my god, and she's like, my heart
is in my stomach right now, I'm dying. And I
said okay, and she's like, wait, do I like run
(02:32):
and come there? But like I could tell she, you know,
was home and didn't want to and that's jarring, and
like now it's an obligation. And so I was just like,
it's okay, because I mean, it is okay. It's so
it's okay, and then it has.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
To be okay. It happened and people make mistakes.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
So I'm sitting now in Carbone by myself in this
big booth and it's sat it's Thursday night, and it's
Thursday night, you know, high season Miami, in the main room,
in the best booth. And I'm also aware that we're
at the right time, like a good time. So I'm
taking up a big booth and you know, parbones On
he's the reservation. So I'm taking up like the biggest booth.
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And they see Fat Joe with a group at the
other big booth like this, and I'm like, oh my god,
and so.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
I go up to the front and I'm gonna leave.
I text my driver, I just don't leave.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
He's like, I'm right out front, and I don't have
another plan, and I'm in Miami and I'm dressed, and
so I'm like, now what am I going to do?
And I could have gone somewhere else. I called another
friend or the can you come here now? It's just
have dinner with someone on Monday, and they're like I can,
I'm already doing something. Someone else was like, I'm a dinner.
And then I saw someone I knew walk into the
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next room, but like he was.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
With a group.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
I don't want to be with a group I don't know.
So I was like, what am I gonna do? And
I really was like kind of a loser. I didn't
have another plan, you know, And so I said, okay,
so what am I gonna do. I'm gonna exercise, like
going to exercise discomfort, which I think is very important
that we don't just like always do the easy thing.
(04:09):
We exercise being uncomfortable in a situation. And so I said, okay,
it wasn't like writhing in pain. I just was like, okay,
this is awkward. So I said, I went up to
the front I'm like, I'm really sorry I took up
a table because she's not coming.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
I was look embarrassed.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
I felt like a loser in front of them too,
you know, and okay, got stood up. I mean, you know,
so for anybody who later was like criticizing that I
talked about it or posted about it, which wasn't most
people like, this is what happened. I mean, So I
say that he goes Bethany, we always have a table
for you, which was very kind.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
So I go back to I'm like, I guess I'll stay.
So I go back to my table.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
And you could tell that the waiter now that so
badly crying badly. It wasn't, you know, But I mean,
they don't know if it's a man who stood me up. Right,
No one at the restaurant knows if it's a man
who stood me up. So you servers as a waiter
and a certain again someone who brings the service food,
and they're both being so nice, and one of them
like comes and he's they're bringing me a thousand free things,
(05:10):
like I don't need free things. It's a separate rant.
We talked about it because like I was trying to
be healthy and not be a dumpster. But nevertheless, it
was all coming over. It's why in my post I
was like, I'm gonna try to eat healthy and then
like the RIGATONI was coming and everything was coming.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
They were so nice.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Okay, they will be gaining five hundred dollars of food
for like one hundred and something of food, but and
they made a whole show of it, which was great
for me posting for you guys, but for me it
was also funny. It was like, oh my god, now
I'm more embarrassed, like we're going deeper into this bit.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
They were so nice, and.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
They put security on my table because a lot of
people when I'm alone and I want to get into
that too. I want to talk about somebody who approached
the other day and I've been thinking about it.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
It's been bothering me the way I handled it.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
So they put security on my table so people wouldn't
keep coming up and city down because people slide in
take pictures.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
And I love you, guys, I really do.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
I adore you, and I love when I run into
and we talk about things, and I'll try Sometimes it's
jarring when like someone comes into your personal space. It
scares you like, I can't explain it. It's just because
it's not what normal people are doing meeting. It's not
what my friends are doing. It's not what business people
are doing. It's just what like fans are doing. So meaning,
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if I knew someone from my neighborhood or from the
entertainment industry and stand next to the table to say hi,
like good to see you, they wouldn't slide in next
to me like behind the table, which happens because people
see an opening and they just are like, wait, let
me talk to you. I have a business because they
think that this is the big thing that they want
to talk about, which I totally get, but they don't
understand how many times in a day that this happens
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and no one wants to hear successful, well known people
complain about that. I get that I'm just saying sitting
in a booth and then having people like slide in
and be like Hi, oh my god, so I have
to tell you about this. My mother is just like
your mother and she's insane, And I'm like, oh, okay,
it might not even be something I want to think
about right now. I might not want to talk about
(07:03):
my divorce right now because I did a podcast on
my divorce, which was extremely difficult, or a podcast on death,
which in that moment I wanted to share with you,
and I mustered it up and I was prepared and
I cried. But like out to dinner maybe on a Thursday,
you don't know what I'm going through. I might not
want to talk about my mother's death. Right then a
broad stroke like you helped me so much with my
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mom's death.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
That's wonderful, and I want to connect with you on it.
But like sometimes someone comes in and they're like, wow,
what you said about your mom, I'm so sorry that
happened to you. Or wait the divorce. You talked about
your schedule and how do you manage to like things
that might trigger that I don't necessarily want to go
through at that time. So they put somebody on the table.
(07:56):
And the reason I stayed by myself is because I
wanted to do it for you too.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Like I know a.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Lot of you that I get messages from here or
on social media are alone or lonely. By the way,
I've been alone. Someone said to me solitude. I think
I've read that solitude is like having four drinks a
day as far.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
As lack of healthiness.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
So I'm lucky I have a lot of people around
my house that work with me, because if it was
just on my own life. You know, I'm with my
daughter a lot, that she has her friends, and she's
at school and she has practiced.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I'm alone a lot.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
So so I know that a lot of you are
alone a lot too. And I know that a lot
of you fe like you have nobody and you have
no friends, and you don't want to meet someone, and
you don't want to date, and you're a free and
you just don't even want the aggravation.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
And I know that a lot of you get.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Some parasocial connectivity through social media. Myself as well. I
never understood it. I understand it now. So I also
understand that you want to get dressed and look cute
and like go somewhere and do something, and like how shackling,
just like you can't go somewhere do something if you
don't have someone to go somewhere and do something with.
And so like I stayed at the table to be
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like I'm dressed, I'm at Carbone.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
People would die to come here. They don't have it
all over the world.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
People would like literally accept a coach plane ticket to
just come to have dinner at Carbone and try it,
and I'm gonna run out of here because like I
got you know, stood up by accident, by the way,
by accident, or because someone forgot about the dinner. So
I was like, no, I'm going to do it because
I want you to go out to dinner. I want
you to get dressed and be like it's empowering. And
by the way, there was something meditative about it, like
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I wasn't on my phone the whole time, even though
I filmed parts of it. I was sitting like just
being present, being like, Okay, this is there, this is
happening here, and this is an interesting experience and like
I'm not dying. Nothing happened, and it was actually nice,
Like it was nice. So I just I did that
to push myself through something that was slightly uncomfortable, just
to say like you could do it too, and to
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inspire people. That's what I want to meet to people
like I'll do difficult things, you know, so you will
do difficult things too. I want to make that like
something that's normalized. So anyway, that was what happened with
that but the people coming up to my table reminded
me of something recently that just happened.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
So I thought, this isn't like you could tell me
your opinion. But I actually I thought about this all day,
which was weird, like why it was bothering me.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
So there was a person who did my makeup in
the Hamptons years ago, and I don't remember the actual
makeup job.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
It seemed to fine enough. They came last.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Minute, that was very appreciated, and they were filming about
it as they were leaving the house in the driveway
and the person who booked them it was like a
glam concierge service. I think I might have someone from
my team saw it and told them because you know,
it was in my driveway and it was like right away,
like look what I just did or who I worked with.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
It was like a flex and I get it. Listen.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
I used to talk about cooking for Merchica Hargateay and
working for Paris and Nikki when I was a nobody
in Life of Style magazine and trying to get somewhere
like you know that game the street cred that I
cooked for Dennis Leary all that it's currency.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I get it. I really did. I'm part of it,
and that was it. I don't never use them again.
I'm not even sure if that was why.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
I think if it was, like this was a person,
I was glad that they came last minute.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
They I think seemed lovely.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
And so I was at kitchen cabaret a place and
on the way to the Hamptons where I go to
like get food. On the way out there ice coffees,
and I was in my car. So the parking lot
there is weird. The parking lot there has like normal
park parking spots and then there are parallel park parking spots,
one in front of the other with the lines in between,
and like they're tight and getting in and out of
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them can be tricky. So I go back out and
the dogs are with us and brings in the back seat,
and I start the car and I almost run someone over.
I'm not exaggering, and I almost run them over because
they step between the two parallel parking spots. So I'm
backing up, but then I'm going to go forward to
move out of the spot.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Does that make any sense?
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Like I've reversed, but I got to get out, so
I've turned the wheel to the right and I'm now
gonna get out. And now person in that moment and
I'm looking into the right hand just slipped right in
front of the car stand like I almost I almost
ran them over right next to the mirror, like right
against my car.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
And that's jarring to me.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
That's just like pulling in on the booth and sitting
next to me motioning for me to roll the window down,
which is never a good idea, but I'm just like,
so shook. So I rolled the window down. Hi, Hi,
it's hi, Bethany. I'm like, yeah, I used to do
your makeup in the Hampton's And I said, and I'm
very literal, this.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Is not a rude slight to this person. This was
not intended to be.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
But I said, oh yeah once because I wanted to
make sure it was the right person. And it was
the right person. But in the moment, it was like, wait, listen,
you know, have things flashed so quick. I'm looking at
them and I'm thinking, you can do my makeup multiple times?
Like I think it's probably that guy who came and left.
But I was like, so shook that I So I go,
oh yeah once, and he's like yeah, once, but like
you could tell he was a little annoyed at the exchange,
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I'm like, hi, and then you know, that was it.
I wasn't like, oh my god, yes, that was amazing.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
How are you like? All was so jory.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
I don't know why I thought about it for hours.
I thought about it for hours, like I wish I
had been like a little friendlier and that like corrected
that I used to do it because who cares. It
was just like in the moment, I was like being
literal because I didn't know who it was. And then yeah,
I don't know why I told that story. It's just
thing you don't always know what perspective someone's coming from,
if that makes any sense.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
You don't always know.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
So anyway, these are the things I think about when
like you don't think I'm thinking about it. I obsessed
over things that really don't fucking matter. So I didn't
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finish the Alex Earl story. Incidentally, I did Alex Earl's
podcast a couple of weeks ago, or maybe it was
a month ago, and it hasn't aired yet. It will
air very shortly, so now I could talk about it,
and she was very.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Respectful. I don't know how to explain it. She doesn't.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
She was very respectful. She's launching a product that I
paved the way for. I created the low calorie ready
to Drink Space, I invented the skinny Margarita, and I
definitely created the low calorie ready to drink Margarita Space.
And Alex Earl now has a low calorie ready to
drink Margarita. So she kind of gave me my flowers
about it and was like utilized me to announce it,
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which was smart of her. And I enjoyed my time
with her friend. Sally, who's a fan, was there.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
It was nice.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
So anyway, I went out with alex Earle two days
after she mistakenly accidentally stood me up. We went out
to a restaurant called The Joye, which is a small,
little private place.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
We were supposed to go somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Someone was kind of felt like they were using us,
so we ended up going to the Joyce.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
It was in Wonderful Steak.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
It's part of this app that I've joined that gets
you reservations. And she was dressed like me. I was
dressed like her. I was like, what am I going
to wear to go out with a twenty four year
old in Miami on a Saturday night. So I wore
like this little denim like sort of Miami slutty, cute
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chain bordered little boustie with miniskirt. That's age inappropriate. I've
rocked and I landed it, but like only for Miami,
only for like a slutty Saturday night. Only with context,
like if I'm just walking out and that's like, what
is she doing? Does she understand how old she is?
So that's what I wore. And Alex Earl walks in
in tights and a little black skirt and a little
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black carting and I'm like, wait a second. We dressed
as each other. We couldn't think of the movie. And
it was Freaky Friday. So we go to this restaurant
and she's very poised and very sweet and you know,
very sensible and like together like quiet, you know, and
we talked and we confided in each other about life
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and love and struggles and relationships and childhood and divorce
and parenthood and all these different things. I gave her
advice and hopefully it was good advice. I think I
know it was good advice. So we had a really
nice conversation and then we went to Fightina where they
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have the living room, which is a place for live music.
And she loves live music, which is also interesting because
at that age I certainly didn't love live music. I
don't even always love live music now, so that was
sort of mature. And we go to the Fightina living
room and we didn't realize till the end of the
night that it's like a dork conference. Like it's all
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these Ai guys in Hawaiian shirts, and I was like,
why is everybody wearing a Hawaiian shirt? It just was
very strange. And then we later at the end of
the night, I realized I took her to like a
dork Ai conference.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
She didn't care. She met some of my friends. We
were really nice time.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
We shot some social I broke of OZ like it
was like it was rollover, so I broke a OZ.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
I was the embarrassment. She was mature. It was completely ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
You know. I felt like I was her mom, like
the crazy mom. And I was like, do I make
you think of your mom? And I'm her mom's age,
and she reminds me of my daughter. She's older, but
like she definitely reminds me of Brynn, because Brynn is
more like a little quieter and very diligent about her
studies and wants to go to Univernity of Miami and
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takes her school work very seriously, like a responsible young
woman like Alex's, not like I am. So we had
a really nice night. I'm proud of Alex's success. I
told her I'm here as a sounding board. I honestly
want nothing from her, you know, obviously she's twenty four
years old. It feels like she's the first person that
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I could give good advice to help navigate because things
are going very well, and it all seems like it's
going good, but it's hard to know the decisions to
be made. And I gave her some advice on different
areas of our podcast, and I liked her a lot.
I enjoyed my night out, and she brought me stunning flowers, gorgeous,
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gigantic flowers. I can't even say all is forgiven about
the stand up, because all was forgiven right after. It
was very funny and it ended up being a place
of yes for me.
So I don't think I told you guys the story
about alex Earle. It was on social media, but I'll
give you context and if you don't know the story,
if you don't know alps Orla. She's a young I
think twenty four year old influencer on TikTok and Instagram
and I'm sure snap and YouTube, and she and I
have texted in the past, just briefly via Instagram, not
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about anything. She asked me a question one time, then
I asked her a question one time, and then I
gave her advice about something, and then she asked me
if i'd do something work wise with her, which I did,
and then I said, if I'm in Miami, let's get together.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
And we were supposed to go to dinner.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
And I made a reservation at Carbone because I thought like,
that's first I made a reservation at like this other place.
But I feel like the people really were trying to
get us in there and wanted sort of that keyr
about it. So I then aborted and I was like,
let me just call Carbone, and I thought, like that's bougie.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
And she wrecks.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Some would like that because I don't know if I
thought they I think I thought they were both coming together.
I needed the reservation for them both to come together.
I don't know how often they are together. I don't know,
you know what I mean, if they have independent lives,
it seems on social media like they're together. Grabston is
a Miami Dolphins player, but I guess now he's moving
to Texas. So I booked Carbone and we confirmed it.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I confirmed.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
She asked me if I wanted to do this charity
thing of hers that I couldn't do, and then we
confirmed thh which was Thursday.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
And I was tired that day. I remember I don't think.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I think I'd gotten a massage maybe, and I was
like a little leg zombie. And so I go to
Carbone and I know the guy there, and I sat
in this big gave me this gorgeous giant booth and
I sat down, and once I was settled, I texted
her to say, you know, main room, far corner booth,
and my phone started ringing and it was her, which
(02:10):
it doesn't seem it seems atypical. And she was like,
oh my god, my heart is in my stomach. I'm
dying right now. No, She's like, is it wait, it's
is it tonight. It's tonight, that's what she said. I
was like, oh my god, and she's like, my heart
is in my stomach right now, I'm dying. And I
said okay, and she's like, wait, do I like run
(02:32):
and come there? But like I could tell she, you know,
was home and didn't want to and that's jarring, and
like now it's an obligation. And so I was just like,
it's okay, because I mean, it is okay. It's so
it's okay, and then it has.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
To be okay. It happened and people make mistakes.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
So I'm sitting now in Carbone by myself in this
big booth and it's sat it's Thursday night, and it's
Thursday night, you know, high season Miami, in the main room,
in the best booth. And I'm also aware that we're
at the right time, like a good time. So I'm
taking up a big booth and you know, parbones On
he's the reservation. So I'm taking up like the biggest booth.
(03:11):
And they see Fat Joe with a group at the
other big booth like this, and I'm like, oh my god,
and so.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
I go up to the front and I'm gonna leave.
I text my driver, I just don't leave.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
He's like, I'm right out front, and I don't have
another plan, and I'm in Miami and I'm dressed, and
so I'm like, now what am I going to do?
And I could have gone somewhere else. I called another
friend or the can you come here now? It's just
have dinner with someone on Monday, and they're like I can,
I'm already doing something. Someone else was like, I'm a dinner.
And then I saw someone I knew walk into the
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next room, but like he was.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
With a group.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
I don't want to be with a group I don't know.
So I was like, what am I gonna do? And
I really was like kind of a loser. I didn't
have another plan, you know, And so I said, okay,
so what am I gonna do. I'm gonna exercise, like
going to exercise discomfort, which I think is very important
that we don't just like always do the easy thing.
(04:09):
We exercise being uncomfortable in a situation. And so I said, okay,
it wasn't like writhing in pain. I just was like, okay,
this is awkward. So I said, I went up to
the front I'm like, I'm really sorry I took up
a table because she's not coming.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
I was look embarrassed.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
I felt like a loser in front of them too,
you know, and okay, got stood up. I mean, you know,
so for anybody who later was like criticizing that I
talked about it or posted about it, which wasn't most
people like, this is what happened. I mean, So I
say that he goes Bethany, we always have a table
for you, which was very kind.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
So I go back to I'm like, I guess I'll stay.
So I go back to my table.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
And you could tell that the waiter now that so
badly crying badly. It wasn't, you know, But I mean,
they don't know if it's a man who stood me up. Right,
No one at the restaurant knows if it's a man
who stood me up. So you servers as a waiter
and a certain again someone who brings the service food,
and they're both being so nice, and one of them
like comes and he's they're bringing me a thousand free things,
(05:10):
like I don't need free things. It's a separate rant.
We talked about it because like I was trying to
be healthy and not be a dumpster. But nevertheless, it
was all coming over. It's why in my post I
was like, I'm gonna try to eat healthy and then
like the RIGATONI was coming and everything was coming.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
They were so nice.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Okay, they will be gaining five hundred dollars of food
for like one hundred and something of food, but and
they made a whole show of it, which was great
for me posting for you guys, but for me it
was also funny. It was like, oh my god, now
I'm more embarrassed, like we're going deeper into this bit.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
They were so nice, and.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
They put security on my table because a lot of
people when I'm alone and I want to get into
that too. I want to talk about somebody who approached
the other day and I've been thinking about it.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
It's been bothering me the way I handled it.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
So they put security on my table so people wouldn't
keep coming up and city down because people slide in
take pictures.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
And I love you, guys, I really do.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
I adore you, and I love when I run into
and we talk about things, and I'll try Sometimes it's
jarring when like someone comes into your personal space. It
scares you like, I can't explain it. It's just because
it's not what normal people are doing meeting. It's not
what my friends are doing. It's not what business people
are doing. It's just what like fans are doing. So meaning,
(06:20):
if I knew someone from my neighborhood or from the
entertainment industry and stand next to the table to say hi,
like good to see you, they wouldn't slide in next
to me like behind the table, which happens because people
see an opening and they just are like, wait, let
me talk to you. I have a business because they
think that this is the big thing that they want
to talk about, which I totally get, but they don't
understand how many times in a day that this happens
(06:43):
and no one wants to hear successful, well known people
complain about that. I get that I'm just saying sitting
in a booth and then having people like slide in
and be like Hi, oh my god, so I have
to tell you about this. My mother is just like
your mother and she's insane, And I'm like, oh, okay,
it might not even be something I want to think
about right now. I might not want to talk about
(07:03):
my divorce right now because I did a podcast on
my divorce, which was extremely difficult, or a podcast on death,
which in that moment I wanted to share with you,
and I mustered it up and I was prepared and
I cried. But like out to dinner maybe on a Thursday,
you don't know what I'm going through. I might not
want to talk about my mother's death. Right then a
broad stroke like you helped me so much with my
(07:24):
mom's death.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
That's wonderful, and I want to connect with you on it.
But like sometimes someone comes in and they're like, wow,
what you said about your mom, I'm so sorry that
happened to you. Or wait the divorce. You talked about
your schedule and how do you manage to like things
that might trigger that I don't necessarily want to go
through at that time. So they put somebody on the table.
(07:56):
And the reason I stayed by myself is because I
wanted to do it for you too.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Like I know a.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Lot of you that I get messages from here or
on social media are alone or lonely. By the way,
I've been alone. Someone said to me solitude. I think
I've read that solitude is like having four drinks a
day as far.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
As lack of healthiness.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
So I'm lucky I have a lot of people around
my house that work with me, because if it was
just on my own life. You know, I'm with my
daughter a lot, that she has her friends, and she's
at school and she has practiced.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I'm alone a lot.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
So so I know that a lot of you are
alone a lot too. And I know that a lot
of you fe like you have nobody and you have
no friends, and you don't want to meet someone, and
you don't want to date, and you're a free and
you just don't even want the aggravation.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
And I know that a lot of you get.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Some parasocial connectivity through social media. Myself as well. I
never understood it. I understand it now. So I also
understand that you want to get dressed and look cute
and like go somewhere and do something, and like how shackling,
just like you can't go somewhere do something if you
don't have someone to go somewhere and do something with.
And so like I stayed at the table to be
(09:07):
like I'm dressed, I'm at Carbone.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
People would die to come here. They don't have it
all over the world.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
People would like literally accept a coach plane ticket to
just come to have dinner at Carbone and try it,
and I'm gonna run out of here because like I
got you know, stood up by accident, by the way,
by accident, or because someone forgot about the dinner. So
I was like, no, I'm going to do it because
I want you to go out to dinner. I want
you to get dressed and be like it's empowering. And
by the way, there was something meditative about it, like
(09:36):
I wasn't on my phone the whole time, even though
I filmed parts of it. I was sitting like just
being present, being like, Okay, this is there, this is
happening here, and this is an interesting experience and like
I'm not dying. Nothing happened, and it was actually nice,
Like it was nice. So I just I did that
to push myself through something that was slightly uncomfortable, just
to say like you could do it too, and to
(09:56):
inspire people. That's what I want to meet to people
like I'll do difficult things, you know, so you will
do difficult things too. I want to make that like
something that's normalized. So anyway, that was what happened with
that but the people coming up to my table reminded
me of something recently that just happened.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
So I thought, this isn't like you could tell me
your opinion. But I actually I thought about this all day,
which was weird, like why it was bothering me.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
So there was a person who did my makeup in
the Hamptons years ago, and I don't remember the actual
makeup job.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
It seemed to fine enough. They came last.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Minute, that was very appreciated, and they were filming about
it as they were leaving the house in the driveway
and the person who booked them it was like a
glam concierge service. I think I might have someone from
my team saw it and told them because you know,
it was in my driveway and it was like right away,
like look what I just did or who I worked with.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
It was like a flex and I get it. Listen.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
I used to talk about cooking for Merchica Hargateay and
working for Paris and Nikki when I was a nobody
in Life of Style magazine and trying to get somewhere
like you know that game the street cred that I
cooked for Dennis Leary all that it's currency.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I get it. I really did. I'm part of it,
and that was it. I don't never use them again.
I'm not even sure if that was why.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
I think if it was, like this was a person,
I was glad that they came last minute.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
They I think seemed lovely.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
And so I was at kitchen cabaret a place and
on the way to the Hamptons where I go to
like get food. On the way out there ice coffees,
and I was in my car. So the parking lot
there is weird. The parking lot there has like normal
park parking spots and then there are parallel park parking spots,
one in front of the other with the lines in between,
and like they're tight and getting in and out of
(11:49):
them can be tricky. So I go back out and
the dogs are with us and brings in the back seat,
and I start the car and I almost run someone over.
I'm not exaggering, and I almost run them over because
they step between the two parallel parking spots. So I'm
backing up, but then I'm going to go forward to
move out of the spot.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Does that make any sense?
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Like I've reversed, but I got to get out, so
I've turned the wheel to the right and I'm now
gonna get out. And now person in that moment and
I'm looking into the right hand just slipped right in
front of the car stand like I almost I almost
ran them over right next to the mirror, like right
against my car.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
And that's jarring to me.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
That's just like pulling in on the booth and sitting
next to me motioning for me to roll the window down,
which is never a good idea, but I'm just like,
so shook. So I rolled the window down. Hi, Hi,
it's hi, Bethany. I'm like, yeah, I used to do
your makeup in the Hampton's And I said, and I'm
very literal, this.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Is not a rude slight to this person. This was
not intended to be.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
But I said, oh yeah once because I wanted to
make sure it was the right person. And it was
the right person. But in the moment, it was like, wait, listen,
you know, have things flashed so quick. I'm looking at
them and I'm thinking, you can do my makeup multiple times?
Like I think it's probably that guy who came and left.
But I was like, so shook that I So I go,
oh yeah once, and he's like yeah, once, but like
you could tell he was a little annoyed at the exchange,
(13:02):
I'm like, hi, and then you know, that was it.
I wasn't like, oh my god, yes, that was amazing.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
How are you like? All was so jory.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
I don't know why I thought about it for hours.
I thought about it for hours, like I wish I
had been like a little friendlier and that like corrected
that I used to do it because who cares. It
was just like in the moment, I was like being
literal because I didn't know who it was. And then yeah,
I don't know why I told that story. It's just
thing you don't always know what perspective someone's coming from,
if that makes any sense.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
You don't always know.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
So anyway, these are the things I think about when
like you don't think I'm thinking about it. I obsessed
over things that really don't fucking matter. So I didn't
(13:52):
finish the Alex Earl story. Incidentally, I did Alex Earl's
podcast a couple of weeks ago, or maybe it was
a month ago, and it hasn't aired yet. It will
air very shortly, so now I could talk about it,
and she was very.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Respectful. I don't know how to explain it. She doesn't.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
She was very respectful. She's launching a product that I
paved the way for. I created the low calorie ready
to Drink Space, I invented the skinny Margarita, and I
definitely created the low calorie ready to drink Margarita Space.
And Alex Earl now has a low calorie ready to
drink Margarita. So she kind of gave me my flowers
about it and was like utilized me to announce it,
(14:31):
which was smart of her. And I enjoyed my time
with her friend. Sally, who's a fan, was there.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
It was nice.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
So anyway, I went out with alex Earle two days
after she mistakenly accidentally stood me up. We went out
to a restaurant called The Joye, which is a small,
little private place.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
We were supposed to go somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Someone was kind of felt like they were using us,
so we ended up going to the Joyce.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
It was in Wonderful Steak.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
It's part of this app that I've joined that gets
you reservations. And she was dressed like me. I was
dressed like her. I was like, what am I going
to wear to go out with a twenty four year
old in Miami on a Saturday night. So I wore
like this little denim like sort of Miami slutty, cute
(15:20):
chain bordered little boustie with miniskirt. That's age inappropriate. I've
rocked and I landed it, but like only for Miami,
only for like a slutty Saturday night. Only with context,
like if I'm just walking out and that's like, what
is she doing? Does she understand how old she is?
So that's what I wore. And Alex Earl walks in
in tights and a little black skirt and a little
(15:42):
black carting and I'm like, wait a second. We dressed
as each other. We couldn't think of the movie. And
it was Freaky Friday. So we go to this restaurant
and she's very poised and very sweet and you know,
very sensible and like together like quiet, you know, and
we talked and we confided in each other about life
(16:02):
and love and struggles and relationships and childhood and divorce
and parenthood and all these different things. I gave her
advice and hopefully it was good advice. I think I
know it was good advice. So we had a really
nice conversation and then we went to Fightina where they
(16:24):
have the living room, which is a place for live music.
And she loves live music, which is also interesting because
at that age I certainly didn't love live music. I
don't even always love live music now, so that was
sort of mature. And we go to the Fightina living
room and we didn't realize till the end of the
night that it's like a dork conference. Like it's all
(16:45):
these Ai guys in Hawaiian shirts, and I was like,
why is everybody wearing a Hawaiian shirt? It just was
very strange. And then we later at the end of
the night, I realized I took her to like a
dork Ai conference.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
She didn't care. She met some of my friends. We
were really nice time.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
We shot some social I broke of OZ like it
was like it was rollover, so I broke a OZ.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
I was the embarrassment. She was mature. It was completely ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
You know. I felt like I was her mom, like
the crazy mom. And I was like, do I make
you think of your mom? And I'm her mom's age,
and she reminds me of my daughter. She's older, but
like she definitely reminds me of Brynn, because Brynn is
more like a little quieter and very diligent about her
studies and wants to go to Univernity of Miami and
(17:32):
takes her school work very seriously, like a responsible young
woman like Alex's, not like I am. So we had
a really nice night. I'm proud of Alex's success. I
told her I'm here as a sounding board. I honestly
want nothing from her, you know, obviously she's twenty four
years old. It feels like she's the first person that
(17:55):
I could give good advice to help navigate because things
are going very well, and it all seems like it's
going good, but it's hard to know the decisions to
be made. And I gave her some advice on different
areas of our podcast, and I liked her a lot.
I enjoyed my night out, and she brought me stunning flowers, gorgeous,
(18:15):
gigantic flowers. I can't even say all is forgiven about
the stand up, because all was forgiven right after. It
was very funny and it ended up being a place
of yes for me.
Host
Bethenny Frankel
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