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June 10, 2021 73 mins

Pretty Little Liars’ Troian Bellisario and Suits’ Patrick J. Adams share the wild and unexpected way they welcomed their second baby into the world!


Troian and Patrick may not have had a firm birth plan, but delivering in a car was NOT exactly what they had in mind. Tune in as the two detail everything about Troian’s pregnancy and a labor experience that they (and one security guard) will never forget.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to Katie's Crib, a production of Shonda Land Audio
in partnership with I Heart Radio. I can't emphasize enough
how fast it all happens, you know, And so it
was an empowering thing, I think for both of us
to just be like, if you had told us this
was going to happen, we would have been panicked for
three weeks and we'll never be able to do this.
But it's just cool when you're in the middle of something,

(00:25):
you're like, well, we just have to do it, and
you know, yeah, hello everybody, and welcome back to Katie's Crib.
I am so honored to have today's guests on the pod.
These are two of my closest friends in the world,

(00:45):
Troy Belisario and Patrick Adams. And also you guys, I
don't think you knew, because nobody knew that at the
time of this recording, ten days earlier they gave birth
to a child. It is the most incredible burst story
I've ever heard, honestly, and I'm so honored that they

(01:06):
were like, yeah, we want to come on Katie's Crib
and share our story and our experience, and again, I
just I feel honored, touched, blessed and thrilled. You're gonna
be on the edge of your seat. Let's just say it.
It involves a car um, There's like some Gray's Anatomy
twists to it, and it's just jaw dropping, edge of

(01:27):
your seat, incredibly inspiring and joyous and wonderful, and I'm
so happy you guys are here. In case you guys
don't know who I'm talking about. Troy and Bellisario is
an actress, writer, director, producer. She's best known for starring
as Spencer Hastings and the television series Pretty Little Liars.
She also most recently started opposite Kate Blanchett in the
Annapurna feature Where'd You Go? Bernadette Troy, and was the

(01:49):
lead of John Abnett's web series Wigs. She also started
the remake of the French called Classic Martyrs and feed Is,
a Sony feature that she wrote, produced and acted in herself.
She also started alongside her hubby Patrick Adams, in the
two thousand nineteen Toronto International Film Festival selection of Clara.
She's won two Teen Choice Awards and a Young Hollywood Award.

(02:10):
Patrick Adams is an actor director. I mean god, these
two are Ridiculous. He's best known for playing Mike Ross
in USA Networks TV series Suits. He directed several of
the episodes himself, including the Landmark hundred episode. He most
recently started National Geographics first scripted series for Disney Plus,
called The Right Stuff. He's also said to make his
Broadway debut in Richard Greenberg's revival of Take Me Out,

(02:32):
and for his role in Suits, Adams was nominated for
an Outstanding Performance by a Male Actor in a Drama
Series at the eighteenth Screen Actors Guild Awards. Friends, I
am so happy to see you, Patrick con Troy and
and there's a little baby here. I love you guys.
Thanks for coming on Katie's crib. Oh why gosh? Yeah?

(02:58):
Oh my oh I have We do have one question
for you which we were talking about. An important detail
of our story does involve human shit, quite a bit
of it, and we were like, how much do we
shy away from or how much do we just embrace?
And we landed on we think we pretty much embrace

(03:19):
without trying to be like as graphic as possible about it,
but it was really up to try and because I
was like, how much do you want people to be
hearing about how much ship there was in dealing with
the baby and ship and all that. I am so
obsessed with this story already. Anyone who's in the theater
knows that shit brings you nothing but good luck. So

(03:42):
Elliot's blessed is how I'm taking it extreme. Really, it's
really whatever you feel the most comfortable with. But first
and foremost, at the time of this recording, how old
is she? I love? And so let me say, at

(04:02):
the time it was recording a ten days old. The
two of you are the most attractive who do not
look like you have a ten day old and a toddler,
which is no joke. We feel like we have a
ten year old that you do. Are you exhausted, like
in the best way, you know, like in the good
way you want to be exhausted. But yeah, are you
guys feeling are you in the baby bubble? Yeah? I

(04:24):
think we're also still I mean, at least I am.
I don't know about you. I always feel so bad
because this is actually like you know, the mother gets
so much adrenaline and so many I'm kind of hard
for it. I'm like, I look at her, her and
I want to pick her up and I want all
the feelings and I don't and it's not there for me,
and I just kind of get like some interrupted sleep
and I'm just like, what is sleep? But I will

(04:46):
say like I feel like my time with Aurora right
now is really special in a way that oh, yeah,
that's so true. Adam and Albie got really close when
I just became like unavailable more, you know what I mean,
I was just way more unavailab Okay, we're getting into all.
That's okay. So first and foremost, congratulations on the birth

(05:06):
of your second child, Troy, and tell us her name.
Her name is Elliott Rohana Adams. I cannot. I knew
the coolest chick in the entire world in college that
was named Elliott, and it is Oh my gosh. I
don't know where she is now, but my god, she
was like a cool girl, you know. She was like

(05:27):
Troy and like a cool girl who everyone wanted to be.
But she was like so smart and didn't try really hard,
but she was just naturally all the things that we
never I don't think either of us have ever met
female Elliott before. So that's good to hear that that
they're out there and they're cool and you guys did

(05:48):
not know you what gender you were having? No, right,
it was a surprise, Troy. And did you feel a
sense in the pregnancy of what you were going to have?
I think I remember you feeling Aurora was maybe going
to be a boy. So everybody with Aurora before we
found out, because we did find out with Aurora around
like the five and a half month mark, and everybody

(06:09):
was like boy, boy boy. And then we opened it.
Immediately I burst into tears seeing the words female, and
I was just like, Oh, what's gonna happen. I'm not ready.
Patrick was like chitching cashion in. I'm still so happy,
so happy. Oh, I sobbed when I found out I'll
be was a boy. I wanted the girl so bad.

(06:33):
But you know what I mean, my mom, did you
have a sense this pregnancy what you were having? I
don't know why. I'm still unwilling to go with like
my gut or my intuition, but it was um. Everybody
again was like boy boy. Because of the way I
was carrying, it was a little bit different. I was
with Aurora, I was nauseous, but with Elliott, I would

(06:54):
like clockwork, wake up and puke, and so I thought
that was a girl thing, but then it wasn't like
that with a ror. And and you have so many
people that are like, yeah, it's a it's a boy.
Congratulations on your boy. And then they say to me,
I'd always get the secret like it's a boy. Oh god,

(07:15):
I can't believe that ship still exists, but it does well.
I just I love the confidence on people. Wow, I
mean it's cool, you know, and they're like, which, what
would you think of? Like, I have no idea, because
no one has any idea. Every single sweeping generalization I
have ever coming. I've known women who are sick every
single day. I mean the Amy Schumer documentary, she puked

(07:36):
like nobody's business busy. That's a girl, but she had
a boy. Or like when you're pregnant with a girl,
like your ass is the size of the house, which
mine was with both of my children, and so you know,
someone was like, clearly you're having a girl, and I
was like, I'm having a boy. Anyway, These are all
terrible question for you guys. Did you always know you

(07:57):
wanted to have two kids? Did you and to get pregnant?
Were you we knew we knew we wanted sibling. This
was not planned, but we knew we wanted I had
two sisters, She has lots of brothers and sisters, so
we knew that, like that sibling relationship was really important um,
and that we wanted to do that. We had no
plan for it to be at this moment. I think

(08:18):
the distance between me and my siblings is all six years.
I don't think we would have my siblings were six
years apart two. I don't think we would have waited
that long. But we were not in the zone of like,
now is the time. That's so great though, because he
didn't feel the pressure I felt, which is like, I'm
so close to my brother and we're two years nine months,
and so when we hit the two year mark and
I hadn't started trying for a second yet, I was like,

(08:40):
oh my god, like I already felt the time pressure.
But what's great is you guys are really close with
siblings and the age thing. Again, there's no right fucking
way to do this, Like you can google, which I did.
What's the best sibling part? It's all bullshit, It is
not true. Now I want to just put us out there.

(09:01):
I saw Patrick and Troy. In like a week before shutdown,
we were in New York City, Troy and was about
to shoot her pilot. Patrick was about to do an
incredible play at second stage and we were having a
play date with Aurora and Albie and Patrick said, well,
what's your plan to get out of New York for COVID?
And I was like, Patrick, you're acting like a crazy

(09:24):
This COVID Corona thing is bullshit. And you were like,
how would you get out of New York? Do you
have cans stored? Like people are going to the grocery
store doing all this stuff? And I was like, okay, Patrick,
this is a conspiracy. He became known as like COVID boy.
I kept going in and like, what's the game playing, guys,

(09:46):
and they were all like, come on, is not going
to get here. And literally a week later, we're all
trying to figure out how the hell to get out
of New York and get our babies out safely. But
I have a question for you. Do you know you
because in your podcast that we list us into you,
it was right around that time that you had found
out you were pregnant. Got pregnant a week before shutdown.

(10:07):
Let me tell you something. I'm pretty sure I hung
out with you guys in New York boned Adam that
weekend and got pregnant. I think that's what you, like
I talked about because when when I when I heard
that you were pregnant, and I did the math, I
was like, that is crazy. They got home and then
like everything shut down and then she was pregnant. It was, yeah,
I got pregnant like March eighth weekend and found out

(10:30):
shutdown was Friday, March thirteen. I found out March a teen,
So like literally the weekend we were hanging out. That
was like in the time where Adam and I were like,
let's just bone every day and let's give it a go,
but like let's not try like getting so freaked out
about it, you know whatever, And it took so so
you guys got pregnant, not planning, but not not planning,

(10:52):
like you knew you wanted siblings, but you were just
living your lives. Did it matter to you that you
were in a pandemic? Like I've talked to a lot
of people who were like, this is a great time
because I'm not going anywhere and I'm not doing anything,
or some people who were like this is too stressful
for me. Well, there was something that was really interesting,
which was I and I was complaining a lot to

(11:13):
Patrick that around Mother's Day because everything was shut down,
so most of my experience of people was on Instagram.
And I just started noticing that so many people that
I knew were pregnant, like you being one of them.
And I really talked to him and I was like,
I know, this isn't really like what we're aiming for
right now, but I'm just so envious of people that

(11:36):
are pregnant. And he was especially like Mother's Day, and
he was so so supportive and just like, I'm sorry,
that must be really difficult, and cut no, I know,
I just cut to like four weeks later. Yeah, it
turns out you guys are fucking great at getting pregnant.
It's what a blessing that is, Like, that's amazing and wonderful,

(11:58):
and that was that was really our of it. I
would say that when we found out that we were pregnant,
there was for both of us just like wow, this
is not like it wasn't pure celebration what you kind
of dream it would be. It was like a heavy
moment like wow, this is you know, the world. It
was just so intended. It was the day she told
me that, the day Ruth Bader Ginsburg died. So there

(12:20):
was just like heavy thickness in the air, and and
so we sat with it for a while. But I
think the thing that pivoted us towards just like how
grateful to be is you know, we know how hard
it is to get pregnant for so many people, and
it's such a struggle, and you know, if that's what's happening,
then that's what's happening. And Elliott was like, I'm fucking here, guys,

(12:40):
like I am here. As people will hear the rest
of this story. Elliott really wanted to be oh, okay, okay,
we're almost there. We're almost there. But we do remember
to put in perspective too, of being joyful about gratefully
being pregnant and getting pregnant when you were just sort
of playing around with the idea at that time. It
was COVID, it was election time, it was Ruth Bader

(13:02):
Ginsburg's death, George Floyd, George Floyd stuff, yeah, George Floyd
BLM movement, like it was like very tense and um stressful.
So I get it like it was a hard time
to feel grateful for anything, and and it was all
very scary. Yeah, in a strange time to really be
wrapping your head around just bringing life into the world.

(13:25):
Life the world was like every day yeah, And so
it was already like how are we going to raise
a daughter in this world? And it's very complicated, and
how do we want to do this? You know, you
never quite figure that out. And then all of a
sudden to add to the to the mix and another person.
It was a lot. It was a lot. How was

(13:46):
the pregnancy? You threw up every day? So leading up
to Aurora's birth, the pregnancy, I was really fortunate and
that I got to direct once, but I got the
opportunity to work on three different things almost four and
so going to work during this pregnancy, during this pregnancy,
So going to work, So I was directing an episode

(14:08):
of Good Trouble and that was when before you tell people.
So I was just running to the bathroom trying to
puke behind my mask when on set and they were like, Okay,
can you come back to the tone meeting? And I
was like, yep, coming right back, And I mean, thank god,
that's just like I've done three episodes with them, this
is my fourth. So they were so chill and so supportive. Um,

(14:32):
but still it doesn't make it any I mean, it's
just Arley. You were just so in it and you're
running home to your toddler, so you have like no braids.
And Patrick, I feel like you were. You were working
a lot too. I work, No, not in the panto,
in the panic. I just did my first pandemic job.
So I think that was actually grateful, is that she
had all this stuff coming to her because you hadn't

(14:54):
also worked in a while before that, of course you
hadn't been, and then all of U and she got
pregnant and then all this work showed up. This is
what happens. Babies bring blessings. I feel like both of
our couples, it's like, Okay, one's working their ass off,
ones like a stay at home parent. The other one's
working their ass off. The other one is carrying the

(15:15):
We've been really fortunate. Learning to pivot is a big deal. Yeah,
it's really great. And know that this is like such
a long haul, you know what I mean, Like all
of it is just such a long haul. Okay, So
you were sick. So I was sick. I mean, I
was grateful that, like I was getting tested three times
a day on set. But it's really scary because you're

(15:36):
going to a place with a hundred people every day
and working. This is like October, so we're just still
learning about so much and not really sure how it operates,
not really sure what's the safest thing to do um
and also how it affects pregnancy, how it affects fetuses,
how exactly goddlers. She was also shooting, like I'm sure

(15:57):
you're probably still talking about about Good Trouble, but she
was also shooting more recently, an independent film where they're
still doing all the protocols, but it's a little more intense. No,
it's not doesn't have quite the amount of money to
put to it. And it was during the l A surge,
and we got shut down and they got shut down once.
So there was a night when Troy and couldn't come home,

(16:18):
or a couple of nights and she couldn't come home,
and I was alone with Aurora and we were like,
until she gets her test cleared, we couldn't, you know,
So we know it's like in the middle of the pandemic,
all this stuff, everything else scary. What what did you
hold on to in this to keep yourself? That was
the dark time. I don't know. I don't think we
held up. I mean, he was it was a mess. Yeah,

(16:42):
I sure didn't, But I'm sure something was difficult. You were.
You were very upset that you were suddenly alone with Aurora,
like and there wasn't an option, you know what I mean.
It wasn't a like. I was just like, I can't
come home, it's not safe. I was losing my mind
because I was so scared that if I got it

(17:02):
positive tests, I wasn't going to be able to see
Aurora for fourteen days. I was losing it. I was
the same. And it's probably worth talking about too that
in general this pregnancy, there was I mean, I'm sure
it's the same with every mother and parent, but the
fear that something was going to go wrong with this
para and that, you know, that general low lying fear

(17:24):
that always exists, was so ramped up. And when you
were at work, because who knows what's going to happen,
And then when that particular thing happened and you came
through so close to feeling like you know, do right
have this? What will they do to my pregnancy? So
it was horrible, Like I just think it was so
bad for anyone who was pregnant during this pandemic and
had a toddler. All you did was like go through

(17:44):
scenarios in your head of like if I get it,
how do I divide up the house, how do I
keep my my partners safe? How do I keep my
child safe? Yeah? I remember when I came home after
two more negative tests, and I came home and I
was like, I'm just gonna keep my ask on. The
very first thing or where it did was come and
hug me and kiss me and say take off your mask.

(18:05):
I want to kiss you. And I just like broke
down into tears because I was like, I'm not gonna
I'm not gonna deny you that, and I'm so scared
because I don't know if it's safe. And I mean, thankfully,
you know, knock on wood. Everything was okay. Every everybody,
even the person who tested positive on that film was asymptomatic,
totally fine in two weeks and actually came back for

(18:26):
the reshoots. But it was hilarious because that film to
talk about like something positive I was playing a pregnant person.
I didn't know that. Yeah, holy shit, Troy, and that's
the dream. Well, it was hilarious because I was only
four months at that time, so I had to wear
a prosthetic belly to look bigger, to look bigger, and

(18:48):
every day, God bless my amazing costume designer Selenia and Jamie.
They were carving out the belly because I was expanding
into the prosthetic belly and on Reilho, this is it's
too tight today? You know. It was the shoots. You
didn't need any belly right then. We had to do
some shoot later when I was actually nine months pregnant

(19:10):
and they just used my belly. It was the other
day we did a quick insert with Elliott to put
into the movie, to put into the movie because they
were like, this is unbelievable that you're going to have this.
This is unbelievable, and like, what rocks you guys. I'm
sure there were some really dark, hard, scary, anxious times

(19:31):
and that you guys were rocks for each other and
for Aurora is like having Aurora was was just so amazing,
I will say, And I'm sure you know maybe this
also helped. Like being pregnant the first time around was
so I'm not a like glowing fertility goddess when it
comes to I'm really not. I'm one of those like grumpy, bitchy,

(19:54):
like what is happening? Patrick? You take a belly for
a day u And so to have to focus on
Aurora was really really helpful because I couldn't just like
sit there, you know. And we had some really scary
moments in this pregnancy. We had a really scary scan

(20:15):
at around twenty weeks, which is the anatomy skin. Yeah,
I've ben come back as like a red flag of
some sort. So I was shooting the movie and they
blocked it out so that I shot one half of
my scene and then they, you know, let me go
to Beverly Hills. I was like, all the way in
boil Heights and so I go to Beverly Hills for
this anatomy scan. And when I had this anatomy scan

(20:37):
with Aurora, it was like boom, boom boom, everything looks great,
here's a picture of your baby. You know. Patrick wasn't
allowed to come with me in any of my meetings,
which he had been the first time, and he was
like on the peloton bike and I had like FaceTime
just like this great thing, and then that nightmare scenario
where they're like, all right, we're just going to check

(20:57):
the heartbeat and then silence. He would not not just
just silence of the heartbeat, but like you you can
hear that they are not telling you everything's okay. And
I'm just sitting there watching Troy and on the face time,
thinking like, oh, this is gonna be one of those meetings,
and like more and more with the silence, it's like,
what's going on? What's going on? And then you hear
the doctor go like, okay, just give me one second.

(21:18):
I need to come from a different direction. And it
was like pin drop silence, and I could see troy
AND's face kind of dropping and like the fear coming
in and we were like no, no, no, no, this
can't be happening. And it turned into me and tell
the rest of the story of the day. It was day.
So he was just scanning the heart over and over
and finally I said, Hey, I'm really starting to get scared.

(21:39):
I can see that you're scanning the heart and I
don't know what's going on. And he, to his credit,
was like, okay, well, let's can you get Patrick, you
know and turn him towards me and um. So he
said that the he was like, it could just be
my angle, but I'm a little bit worried that in
the development of the fetus, the the aorta and the

(22:00):
pulmonary artery are supposed to eventually go from parallel tracks
to cross over so that it can be a bilateral
Like your heart pumps blood into your lungs, it oxygenates them,
goes back into your heart and then goes back into
the body. If it doesn't cross over their parallel tracks
and the blood never leaves the heart to go to
the body or the heart to go to the lungs.

(22:20):
It just kind of like stays and um. And so
he was like, that's a huge it's like essentially a
nonfunctioning heart. Right now. The baby is alive because it's
connected to your placenta. It's heart, your heart, it's heart
is pumping, but it doesn't need this. He was saying,
like it was not like hopeless situation, but it was like,
you know, if this is correct, it's surgeries, it's you know,

(22:43):
fall in a heart potentially, Like it was just a
whole and he was like, and it could possibly mean
it's a gal like genetically abnormal baby, which all of
our tests had come back, you know, totally normal. So
we weren't expecting anything like that. And it's now twenty
weeks into the pregnancy. Um, and I'm supposed to leave
to go shoot my pilot in New York in five days.

(23:05):
Oh my. So so I get back in the car
and you know, he says, I'll get you in to
see a fetal cardiologist as soon as possible. Um. And
so I just go back to set and I'm you know,
essentially m Yeah, you're like distracting yourself. And then you'll remember, like,

(23:26):
holy sh it's really sucked up, and I don't know
what the answers are, and god blood. You know. Patrick
was just on the phone with me the whole ride.
I was sobbing, crying. He was just trying to keep
me calm so I could drive. And thenk goodness, the
movie was with friends. So the second I got there,
I pulled aside the director who's one of my best friends,
and the producer and and I told them what was
going on, and they were like, whatever you need, you know,

(23:48):
like we'll we'll we'll proceed with this day. But if
at any moment you are like I'm gone, You're gone. Thankfully,
we got a call about an hour later and they
were like, come back to Beverly Hills. Then was really wonderful.
She was like, Okay, I'm gonna scan you for forty
five minutes and I don't have any answers, so I
know it's going to be forty five minutes of silence,

(24:09):
but you just gotta wait. And I love this woman. Yeah,
so I'm not like, why aren't you talking? You know right?
So it was it was awful. I remember sitting there
and I'm not a religious person, and I was like,
how do you pray? Do I do that? You know?
What do I do? Um? And just watching her take
a hundred and ten scans of this baby's heart and

(24:31):
just being silent and so scared. And then the doctor
walked in after forty five minutes and came in and went,
first of all, I just want you to know that's
not at all what's happening. He just had a bad angle.
This baby's heart is totally fine, very blessed, so blessed.
But it really was scary because suddenly, you know when

(24:52):
you have the rug ripped out from under you, and
you're very aware of what can happen and what does
happen to many, many children and many you know women.
Suddenly when a doctor says it's okay, it was just
a false alarm, resume your pregnancy. I was like, excuse me, no,
I'm sorry. I'm played into a lot of the pain,

(25:14):
like she you know, there was already this this this
baseline for Troy and UM, just terror that something was
going to go wrong. So that day when that was happening,
it was like I told you, like I told you,
I told you, this is it. It's happening. And just
because the problem was solved or or we were told
it wasn't really a problem that day, that sense that
something was going to go wrong was there with us

(25:36):
the whole time, really there for Troy and the whole time, Um,
And so we're kind of on high alert for the
rest of the pregnancy, thinking like what's it going to be?
And you did an amazing job of negotiating navigating that panic.
Once that sort of happened, now it becomes that every
doctor's appointment, every scam, are you going to say something

(25:58):
something wrong? And were we not going get a heartbeat
and felt sick in a way she didn't recognize. It
was like all the phone calls had to be made
to just make sure, like is this normal? Were to
New Mexico a couple of a few weeks before the birth,
and she's altitude sickness, and you know on the phone
immediately is this normal? You know? Do I need to

(26:19):
go somewhere? Do I need to go to a hospital?
And the doctor being like, your altitude sickness, give yourself
a couple of days. Just high alert, just high alert
the whole time. Yeah, and god, how did you go forward?
I was just gonna say, and God, bless our doctor Jay?
Who are doctor is Jay Goldberg? Who? Um is? Everyone
loves Dr Jay Goldberg. I want to meet this guy.

(26:40):
Everyone loves Jay Goldberg because he perfectly he just like
he gets He's exactly who I need during a pregnancy.
Because when I come into him with a question that's
insane or that, like you know, we're like Rachel where
I'm like, hey, kin Patrick, go work and back only

(27:00):
five days before the due date, and he's just like, sure,
you're crazy, do whatever you want. Can we talk about
bicycling and I'm like, cool, Yeah, let's talk about he
was a JamMan in our first birth with with Aurora,
he was a Jedi. He understood. I mean, I was
obviously knew Dad didn't know what to do, just rubbing
whatever I needed to rub and holding hands. And he
would be the guy that walked in and be like, look,

(27:21):
if you don't do this in the next twenty minutes,
you're not going to do it. And Troy, he knew
exactly what to say to Troy and that I was
just to turn that, like, just to do that really
quickly so that we can we can compare the two
labors that you've had. But your first one with Aurora,
I remember this. You were pushing in labor. I mean
you had a very very very long labor. You labored
at home for a long time, you labored at the

(27:43):
hospital for a long time. You pushed for a long time.
And then he came in and gave you the ultimatum,
which was like, if you don't get this baby out,
and Troy and went into the deepest depth of primal
animal beast mode and was like, don't fucking say that.
Shipped to me. I got this and you were like yeah,
and then she came out. But it's true. It was
twenty six hours of labor. I was pushing for an

(28:05):
hour and a half and then finally he came in
and he was like, look, she's not happy. She's down
in your birth canal. It's too long and we're going
to have to do a C section if you And
I was like, oh, yourself, okay, now right before we

(28:35):
hear how Elliott came into the world, How did you
tell Aurora that you were pregnant. It wasn't like a
big you know. I really I didn't want to like
make it to do about it. I wanted her to
kind of come into it, and she really It was
about when, um, when my belly started to really become big.

(28:57):
And then I would ask her, you know, g you
know what's inside mama's belly. Do you want to talk
about it? And then you know, we're way towards the end.
We got like some books about being a big sister,
but she was doing such a good job of talks
about it a lot. We just talked about it a lot.
We talked about what kind of sisters she wanted to be,
what her like job would be, what her responsibilities would be,

(29:20):
and that like, I think we probably did it a
little sooner than most people. And we're lucky that nothing,
you know, terrible happened, because I think that's probably why
you avoid that conversation a little earlier. But thank god
everything did work out, and she was such a part
of the process. She was really excited. She liked telling
people about her little that she didn't know it was
gonna be a little sister, but that he was coming.

(29:41):
Yeah right, Yeah, why did you guys decide this time
around to not find out? I wish I had the balls.
I wish we I think we've just we've gotten so
much from other people who said, like it's one of
the great surprises, and like might as well, you know,
and we don't know this, this might be it for us,
and we're like, we just want to have that experience.

(30:01):
And my brother had it. My brother had that too.
But wait, okay, so you guys listening, let me just
breakfast this. I'm gonna get into it now. I have
heard my whole life, probably I've been obsessed with birth
as you guys know this. I have now podcast about
this ship. I have heard of eight thousand birth stories

(30:23):
in my life. I have heard rumors from far off,
distant lands of things like that has happened to you guys,
And I have never ever known something like this to
happen to anybody, And I think it is the coolest,
most wild thing in the entire world of how Elliott
came to be on this side of the world. Tell me,

(30:47):
did you okay? Contractions start? Did you were? You should
start with we should start with I'm not home. I've
been in tru for the last three weeks, three and
a half weeks. I took warrantine than she pretenders was
working in Toronto. So I am gone and I'm not
coming home until the fourteenth and our due days the nineteen.
So we are already on high alert, checking in every day.

(31:09):
How's it going, how are you feeling. We feel pretty
confident that nothing's going to happen until I get home,
because it was a week late and we were and
so that's why when when Patrick the opportunity to go work,
I was, you know, we had a lot of people
in our lives that were like, he's going where but
the baby is going to be born? And I was like,
I don't really think so. Aurora was so late, like

(31:30):
it's totally fine. Also, what is I had the experience
during the last week of being pregnant with Aurora where
Patrick would just watch me like I was a bomb,
and I was like, it's so uncomfortable to just be
watched because I have no idea when I'm gonna go
into labor, and so I was also it was my
last time to be alone with Aurora, so it's really

(31:52):
cool to have that. It was great, but we were
like by the fourteenth it was like like the production
I was on even flowed it at one point, like, hey,
you know, if you could leave the fifteenth that would
be great because we got this shot. And I was like,
I'm sorry, guys, I wish I could. I have to
go home on the fourteenth because I was also telling
him that every night now I was starting to get

(32:12):
Braxton Hicks and I was going into full anxiety attacks
that it was labor, and I was like, you cannot,
this cannot be labor. I was, you know, even like
telling my mom, who's going to come stay in case
somebody need to take care of Aurora? That I was like,
don't come, because I was just so afraid that if
I even had a plan in place that it would
get like we're doing it, that it would go and

(32:34):
so I was just in full denial of being pregnant
and labor. So you're having Braxton Hicks every night, which
is like your body is gearing up, getting ready. Yeah.
On the fourteen, I get home. I land at the
airport about eleven pm. I'm home by twelve pm. I'm
crawling into bed. At twelve thirty. I've been up for

(32:56):
twenty four hours, you know those work and travel days thing.
I've been up for ever from the East coast. So
he's three hours. So I crawl into bed and kiss
her and say hi, I'm home, and she goes, I'm
so happy you're home. And that's it. We're going to sleep. Okay,
terrible four hours of sleep because at four thirty in
the morning, Tryan's awake and wandering around the room. Yeah,

(33:17):
and Aurora's in bed with us, and I'm and at
four thirty, I'm just laying there with my eyes closed,
and I'm like, it's okay, it's braxton Hicks again. It's
just some braxton hicks. This is fine. About five thirty,
I'm like I can no longer lay down in bed.
I kind of grow into the bathroom and I'm like
just laboring, you know, basically like having contractions, but I'm
telling myself they're not. And then I hear a Roora's

(33:40):
voice that's like, Mama, come to bed, Where are you?
Why are you snuggling? And I was like, mom, is
just a bit uncomfortable, but it's okay. And Patrick was like,
what's going on over their friend? I love the edge
of my seat. We were just like it was becoming
very clear, very quickly that this was not Braxton Hicks.
We both kind of knew it. But we were also like,

(34:02):
there's no pant, we're no painting because also from the
last time, we got nothing but time, you know, you've
got even if that's half the time we're in, we
got twelves, even if it's twelve hours, It's like we
still got a while really chilled. The problem is that
with Aurora, you know, I don't know if it was
like this with you guys, but you know, every bag

(34:24):
was packed. Two weeks before, we had like our laminated
birth plan, We had our scented diffuser, we had our playlist,
we had it already ready, had nothing nothing, nothing. Adam
like queued up the song that we had pre planned
rabbit to be born to like, come on, nothing. He's

(34:44):
in the middle, in the middle of her contractions, packing
her bags, like in between contractions, and I'm trying to
help her at the same time I have to unpack
my My bags were pretty close just home from a
three week She she like what happening? She's just running
around and grabbing a moment and station wants breakfast and
have a ball and she doesn't know what's going on. Um,

(35:07):
So we get downstairs. We handed Aurora more into her
grandmother's hands and we're like, I think we need to
start taking this seriously. That's about six thirty thirty. It
was also hilarious because he Patrick had taken a shower.
I was in the shower like after I was like,
just leave it on, and then I was like, hey,
can you download that app that counts contractions? And he

(35:28):
was like, don't you have it on your phone? And
I was like, no, you have to do it downloaded
immediately count three contractions the apps like go to the
hospital and we're like, okay, grounded, are you fucking kidding?
Did you still have the app on your phone? To
download it? Download? I start counting the contractions while I'm packing,
and after three it says go to the hospital. And again, Katie,

(35:51):
it said it said go to the hospital. And that
was when we called our do la for Aurora. I
labored at home for two more hours. I went to
the hospital, and then Liebert for a whole day. Right,
so we're still it's like, okay, great world, So wait,
did you guys set up to for a duela to
have this time? Anna Paula, who's the greatest in the

(36:12):
whole world, and we love her so much and we're
so excited that she could she could come and do
this with us again. So we called her right away,
but she had a day. She had as she was
teaching that day and she's like, I can't get out,
you know, and Annapoula teaches, she's teaching like everybody. She
can't stop. But our backup was no other than Rebecca. Yes,

(36:33):
we called and it was so good too, because Patrick
was like, wait, our backup is who? And he started
to freak out and I was like, no, no no, no,
it's Katie and Adams. You just listened to her and
I was like, oh, I love her. She's yeah, she's amazing,
But like, wait, so so you're packing your ship. It's
six dirty in the morning. You're like, we're still just
gonna are you wait, wait, Troit, are you in a
ton of pain? I am in a lot of pain,

(36:54):
but particularly because Aurora is around me, sitting on me,
I'm just like my head tend just to not be
that bad because I'm just seeing child's pose just kind
of like not even moaning, and she's she's like on
my back, kind of like thinking it's time to ride
Mama like a horse. And my own mother is like,
can I make you eggs? Can I make you an

(37:15):
English muffin? Can? I kind of just like know everybody,
just everybody leave me, everybody, I'm just right here. And
I was like, but Patrick, please eat breakfast. You know
how long this takes, We're gonna be fine. This is
gonna be good. My mom is on another planet. Basically,
she's so anxious, but she's doing her best. She was
basically just following me around, going wow, these what can

(37:38):
I do my past? And I was like, yes, I
noticed that too. I'm it was just it was clearly
sitting to like, you know, I'm sure it's like that
we needed to limit the amount of people. We need
to get Aurora away from trying, and we needed to
get out of the house and get on the so
like we got I got some breakfast in me, we
packed the car and we were going and it was
like we got plenty of time. She was very uncomfortable, obviously.

(37:59):
This is the the thing that I noticed was I
was like, Okay, I really want to say goodbye to
or Or and I want to be calm, but my
windows between contractions where I could do that we're getting shorter,
like to the point where by the time I could
stand up, I really had to kind of rush it.
So I gave her a huge kiss and a hug
and then basically just booked it. Remember at one point
I was in the house, like still getting my last

(38:21):
things together. I was like, okay, I'm ready to we're trying,
and I could see like tying in the car sitting there.
I'm like, okay, that's a bad thing. I should we
should be gone. So I was out the door ready
to go. We get in the car and we're on route.
We've called in a Paula and apaul has told us
about Rebecca. We've got Rebecca on the phone in the
car and by the way, we're joking in the car,
We're like, look at this Saturday morning, baby, no traffic

(38:44):
at seven am, like weird country music? That are you screaming?
We're not in screaming mode. No, No, I'm moaning in
between contractions. But Rebecca is the best, by the way
she gets on the on the phone and she's like,
I don't want to talk, I just want to listen,
which I was like, you're what a badass, And she
just listened to Troy and kind of have a contraction

(39:06):
or two, and she was like, yeah, you know, I
can hear where you're at. I get it. Let's get
you to the hospital safely. Call me when you get there.
But she was such a ninja even right there on
the phone, like she was like, I'm not gonna talk
to you guys much. I just want to hear you
and make sure everything's okay, and we'll connect when you
get to the hospital. Anyways. So then the next thing
that you also need to know is Patrick turns to
me and goes, I don't even know what the birth

(39:26):
plan is, Like do I give you right away? We
haven't even talked about it. Like again, the last time
we've had like three meetings about our birth plane this
time I don't even know. I'm like, it's a second
baby though, too, Like I mean, everyone who's listening who's
pregnant with their second or planning out a second it's
so amazing the second time because you're just like, you
just have less capacity to care about that yet. And

(39:50):
I think you also know how quickly plans disappearing it away.
You're just like, I can't yes, and it's and it's
what makes the first time also so beautiful is because
it's so precious, you know, and you feel like you
want to plan so much, in control so much, and
then you figure out, oh, well that's okay. So what
the birth land are we trying to get? Am I

(40:10):
trying to get an up dural? The second we get
in there? What's my job? I just want to know,
like what am I advocating for? Because I can see
she's getting more and more non verbal. So it's like,
you know, are are we drugs right away? Are we
know drugs? Are we going full natural births? And she says,
as I have one request? Yeah, So I basically said,
also inspired by you and your birth stories, I said,
you know, I really don't care about what happens with

(40:33):
the upper dural um. I just want you or me
to catch the baby. I think that would be really special.
And I was thinking about you pulling because you pulled
up and I pulled your out myself. Yeah. Yeah, it
was the best moment of my entire life. So I
was like, how it would be so cool. And there
was almost a moment in Aurora's birth where Patrick got
to catch her, and then because I was in full
beast mode, Jay Goldberg was like, you're not catching the

(40:55):
say anymore. But I was like, that would be so special.
I just want your hands from my hands, to be
the ones to bring her into this world. And Patrick,
to his credit, I don't know what were you thinking.
In my head at that point, I was like all
birth plans. I was like, okay, sure I will try
and make there, but like, okay, but I did not
say that out loud. It was like, yes, of course,

(41:16):
that's what we will do. Uh. And then we're driving
and we're kind of laughing again. We're listening to this
weird country music that I don't know why we're listening
to it, but we don't change it because it's kind
of pleasant. And chill and uh, we're on there. Nothing
else much happens on the ride and get to the
hospital again, I'm driving so slow, like drive that in

(41:38):
the normal day would be like twenty minutes is taking
thirty five because I don't want to go fast. I
don't want to hit the brakes hard, like we're in
hard and I'm starting to have to push my seatbelt
away from me. As we're getting close to Cedars, I'm
just like, this is uncomfortable sitting. I mean, I'm clearly
I'm in a lot of pain, but I'm also like
I can't be in this position anymore. And we get

(42:01):
up to Cedars and we're going down the road and
Patrick's like, I don't even remember what how do we
get in here again? We had the same thing, no
clue where I was going, not narked in the wrong thing,
but obviously okay, keep going. It was the first time
around with the world. We did like practice runs, so
we so we turned around a you turn and I

(42:23):
remember one of the last things that I remember before
I disappeared into birth was this ambulance coming out with
two dudes that like they weren't the sirens weren't on
they were clearly coming back from an emergency, and I
remember locking eyes with one of the drivers and I
just heard of I felt like I heard his inner
monologue where he was just looking at me and he

(42:43):
was like, oh your dad, bitch right now, like like
oh ship, And you're never going to forget those eyes.
You're never like his eyes just been like always going down.
And so we pull into the Cedars parking lot and
Patrick pushes the turnstyle I hit the thing to get
She's just sitting normally in the chair. I go to

(43:03):
get the ticket, and I mean, I don't know why.
As soon as I hit the button and grab the ticket, screaming,
just screaming. I hear screaming from the other side of
the car, and I whip around and by the time
I turned my head around, Troy and is already full
hands and knees, seats folded back, hands and knees, and
something is just completely We've gone nuclear. We've gone from

(43:24):
the conversational to nuclear in the span of like half
a second. Holy sh it. So you're on all fours
on a flattened down. She doesn't remember. I don't remember
that because I remember this, because I remember like pressing
my head into the headrest and just just trying to
make my head go through the headdrest. I was like,

(43:45):
I don't know what's happening, and I couldn't communicate because
I Patrick said, I was howling and something was going
on in my body where you know, I remember with
the contractions which are painful, like fluid would come out.
But this was basically after I had this contraction. I
turned to Patrick like heaving, and I was like, don't laugh.

(44:06):
I shipped my pants and you still had your pants on.
You had your pants on. You knew you shop your pants,
and so obviously your water had already broken. I don't
know when the same of the first birth to like
never it was never a water breaking moment that we
were not really, but if every time you were having

(44:26):
a contraction, water was coming out, yeah, that was that.
With Aurora. I remember that like water can come so
I remember stuff can come out. But I was like,
I didn't go number two with Aurora until I was
actively pushing, So in my head I clocked that. I
was like, why is my body pushing? This isn't cool.
Something that needed you ship your pants was when you

(44:47):
were like, oh my god, I think I'm like in
like active labor. Yeah, that was not communicated to me.
What he heard was just like we're kind of already,
like I said, non verbal. Um, she's told me she's
she's gone number two. Uh. He Patrick is so good,
He very calmly just goes I'm not laughing. I'm not laughing.

(45:10):
I'm not laughing, and she's like, please laugh, please actually laugh.
I cracked my pants. Please laugh at me. You guys,
this is the most lovely story I've ever heard of
my entire life. Honestly, Like, if it doesn't restore your face, okay.
So you're like, I'm not laughing, and you're like you
can laugh. It's okay, please laugh. Who takes off your pants?

(45:30):
So we get to the valet area and Cedar Sinai.
It's not a ballet during COVID whatever. It's just that
desk where the security guard is and then that other
person who's checking your temperature and all that. But there's
just two people really, one guy. I swing the car in,
I jump out, and because she's gone to the bathroom
now and like, well we need a wheelchair. Um, and

(45:52):
she's also because I would need a wheelchair. We needed
a wheelchair with Aurora too. In my mind, it's like
we just need to get this going. So I get
up to the I and I say, hey man, this
is happening, Like it's all happening right now. I'm kind
of I'm kind of getting nonverbal and like it's all
happening in the car. You need to get the wheelchair
down here. We need the people, all the people and
all the professionals. It's happening. And he kind of looks

(46:15):
at me with this look that's like I do this
all day long. I'm in no rush here, Bud. You
need to calm down. I know you think that this
is all happening right now, but it's not just calm down.
So he does the thing, but he moves like I'm
moving at you know, a thousand. This guy is going
to speed limit and he's like yeah, yeah. He picks
up the phone and calls the people, and I don't

(46:37):
get the impression that he's taking it particularly as urgently
as I would like him to take it. So I
I go to open the car door to the passenger
side door, and as soon as I opened, at Troy
and is doing one of her incredible house um that
I then just turned to him to be like, are
you hearing what I'm hearing? And he kind of takes

(46:58):
it in and he maybe knocks him to a hundred
miles an hour, but he's still not receiving what what
I think he needs to be receiving. UM. At that point,
Troyance starts screaming Patrick Patrick, Patrick, I go back to
the car, Um. I'm losing my vine right now, I'm
moving my mind. I can't control At this point, I'm

(47:22):
still non verbal, but I know that she is so
far down that I'm like, I can't I can't find
a comfortable place to put my legs. I'm still on
all fours and my legs are kind of alternately doing
this like bending and straightening out things whenever they straighten out.
My hips are closing, and her head is very clearly coming.

(47:43):
But I'm just screaming Patrick Patrick, and I scream, get
my pants off, pull my pants down, pull my pants down.
At this point, I'm going, are you sure? Like like, well,
I also know that you've got to the bell. Like
once we feels like once we begin this process, we're
in a whole new realm. So are we going to
do that? But I don't have much time to think
about it because she's hands down right now, so she

(48:04):
is still on all fours but facing the windshield. So
I'm really kind of her butts at my head levels.
So I'll just go ahead and pull down her pants
and the head is right there, crowning. What did you?

(48:31):
How do you even? What? Patrick? Are you terrified? Are
you excited? Are you like? Are you just an executive functioning? Of? Like?
How do I? Executive functioning is a good way to
put it. So this is where I went into sort
of it wasn't fight or fight, because I actually wasn't.
There was panic, but it was also like, there's no
room for panic. You just need to deal with the situation.

(48:53):
I did remember it one last time, turning to the guy,
our friend, the security guard, and being like, I see
the head. You need to move faster, you need to
get the people down here. His response was like, I'm sorry, man,
Like I did everything I can. They're coming. I can't,
like I called, And so I turned away from him
and I go back and already the heads like all

(49:16):
the way out now, and I can get Elliott's face, hellassive,
here are you pushing? Are you feeling the need to
guess there is nothing that I am doing consciously. My body,
your body is doing it all in its own. I
actually talked with my friend about this, and she said,
what it's called is fetal injection, which is where if

(49:36):
you leave the mother alone, like you don't have to
tell her to push. Because there was no I was.
I wouldn't have been pushing. I didn't know if I
was dilated at all. No, I had never been checked.
I just had some contractions and it was four hours
into labor at this point, and so I was completely
just basically just on another planet, except that I heard
this very calm voice in my head that was like,

(49:57):
if this is childbirth, at least you only have to
do it like three more minutes, because this is some
next level ship. Did you Was it painful? I don't
know because I hadn't never durable times, so I don't
know like what it feels like. Was it pressure? Yeah,
it was immense amounts of pressure, immense amounts of pain.
But also I remember this about a roar because the

(50:19):
time that when I was pushing your roar out, the
time that it felt the best was when her body
came out, because it was such relief, Like it was
like nine months of building up the pressure of a diamond,
and then when her body came out of me, I
was like, oh, like it was so good, and so
I felt even in all of the pain, I think

(50:40):
my body also just reached like a limit. I was
just like, I can't keep on feeling this um, and
then I started to feel that if my body kept
on pushing, I would get to that relief. So I
was kind of focusing on that. You're still on all fours.
Patrick takes off your pants. Now, there's probably lots of

(51:00):
liquid involved. There's there's there's lots of things. There's lots
of bobbily things everywhere. Luckily I am as soon as
I see the head, I forget all the fluids because
I'm just focused on, oh my god, this is our baby.
We don't know the sex yet, we're just ahead. But
I see the you know in any you know, you've
seen photos enough, like babies look dead when they're born,

(51:23):
like they're not breathing, their eyes are closed, and so
I'm fairly confident that that is normal. But I'm like,
I'm not a doctor here. I am alone with this
baby's face. Her head is out her head is out,
is now up to her neck, and uh, I don't
know where I had the impulse to do it, but
I checked the neck of the baby to see if
I could feel an umbilical cord, because my brain went

(51:45):
that happens sometimes you want to make sure that's not happening.
That I would have known what I who knows, But
that's a good call. That's really start And I feel like,
did you ever play a doctor on to me like
this is I? I checked that out? And then I
also remember, you know I pulled. I didn't know. My

(52:06):
main thing that I'm proud of because ultimately, all I
did in this situation was catch a baby. She did
all the work. But the thing I'm most proud of,
they're both great, Okay, I'm most proud of is that
I might had the instinct initially to pull not hard,
but I went, AM, I supposed to help AM, I
supposed to coax out. So I took hold of her
head and I began to just pull a little bit

(52:27):
to see if that was like a helpful city scenario.
And immediately everything in my body went, do not do that,
like stop doing that, like some of like something tapped
me on the shoulder, and that's not what I wanted.
I do believe it was my own inner voice, because
I was only screaming at that point, but I was
in my head. I was like, oh God, please just
apply counter pressure. All I need right now is for

(52:50):
you to apply counter pressure. And he did, and I
was like, oh, pull For a second, I could feel
her body like sees on the baby like be like, no,
don't pull hole. So I pushed instead. I put my
hand on her head and I just pushed a little
bit in and then I felt her body totally relaxed
when I pushed the head in the most insane thing

(53:11):
I've ever heard of my entire life. Honestly, this is literally,
I think one of the most insane things I've ever
heard of. It was, Katie. You have to understand, like
what we're describing all took place in the span of
about three minutes, Like from the moment I hit that
thing at the parking lot to get the ticket and
turned around to find her there to the moment I'm
holding this child's head. Were it like four minutes max.

(53:32):
Time is so fast it's happening, Like, what the fun
is this security guard doing? So this is at this point,
I'm ignoring the security because obviously we're dealing with the baby.
But you know, after I've checked the neck, uh, two
more pushes or one more push, one more babies that
we have the baby. I'm holding her looking like this

(53:52):
and she's not doing anything yet. I don't even know
it's a she yet. She's covered in in ship and
I'm panting. My My first next panic is I remember
with Aurora the marconium stuff and they're like getting feces
into your lungs, and so I'm looking at her thinking,
oh my, like, what if any of this gets into

(54:13):
her face, her eyes, or her lungs. That's not supposed
to be good. So my instinct is to just hold
her upside down, basically with her face down, so that
anything is falling off of her face. Um. And as
soon as I turned her upside down, she starts crying
and screaming. And it was amazing, because you know, I'm
on another planet. I'm basically just I feel like I'm

(54:33):
wrapped my body around some sort of cosmic writh in
the universe, and that's how she came out of me
and then suddenly did out of me, and I just
look over my shoulder because I'm still on all fours
because the umbilical court is still connected to her, and
I see Patrick holding her upside down and she's wailing,
so I'm like, she's alive. It's okay, Um, she's breathing.

(54:56):
So you delivered her on all fours, to which I
a lot of women do at is like a total
like that is the thing. It was so cool to
watch it, Like she just said, my experience of watching
what Troyan was going through was that like she was
just getting out of the way of this babe, Like
this baby was coming and Troyan was just sort of
trying to move her body around it in the best

(55:16):
way she knew how. And so it was so really
cool to just see that happen completely naturally. Let me
just tell you, if this was my story, I don't
sure it would be dead on. If he had any
of that, he would have fainted. I mean he has
he can't even be in the room for the epidural heid.

(55:37):
He hides in the bathroom like he cannot see any
of this. The amazing thing that like I have really
been thinking about is that Patrick and I are very
we're really anxious to people, especially when it comes to
just like general life and performances and all of this.
But we have had so many moments in our relationship

(55:57):
together where it's kind of oddly come down to like
life and death. Like even our first trip out of town,
we just like we're bouldering and we took it too
far and didn't want to assist. You guys, we always
just like we find ourselves in some really intentions and
then we always like to get out of them, and
because we always go very calm and pretend that the

(56:22):
like we're not in danger, and then it's like three
hours later that we're just like, can you believe we
came close to this? I have really never heard of
anyone delivering a baby in the front seat of a
fucking car. I have heard of people being like, oh
my god, we were almost I've never heard of this,
like Patrick delivered your baby and you like, she asked

(56:48):
for one thing and we did it. So the best part.
I mean, look, I'm holding the baby, so two more
pushes after the head, two more pushes. I think Tryan
might have turned over at this I was still on
all fours because I was not sitting down on the
AMBI was just like what anyway? I turned to our friend,
the security guard, now holding a baby, just to get

(57:09):
just to be like, hey man, anyhow you have any speed?
Are we moving out now? And he's gone, he's checked out.
He's white as a sheep. There's no guy there anymore.
There's just he's just like a skin and bones. He
can't believe what's happening. Um. He was terrified. Here Patrick say,

(57:29):
do you at least have any water so I can
wipe her off? And oh my god, it's a girl.
So that was the moment. It was valarineous. I was
like imagining what would be like when they were like,
it's your son, it's your daughter, and it was just
like can I wipe the ship off of my daughter?
And I was like, oh, you have another girl? Uh?

(57:51):
And then we spend about Honestly, we were still kind
of there for about three or four minutes before, like
we were just kind of in shock. I was I
was trying to kind of keep Elliott close and kind
of but then I'd panick about about the poop, so
I'd turned her over and we just didn't quite know
what to do. She's cold and quick and also have

(58:15):
you done the afterbirth yet, like is the placenta or no,
but it's but it's you know, it's eight in the morning,
it's still chilly. We're in a parking garage and she's
wet and naked, so we're like terrified, this poor baby
is going to be cold. This is the most insane
thing I've ever heard of my life. The doctors or

(58:37):
nurses rather I guess, come down and they arrive with
they say the same urgency that they were called. Like,
they're kind of chit chatting, they're walking out. I think
they're very much expecting to find out, you know, find
a mother that is in in labor. It's not like
they're they're they're they're not interested in helping us. But
I don't think that they understand the gravity of the situation.

(58:58):
So when they sort of break through the threshold of
the mezzanine and they see us and I'm standing there
with the baby crying and Troy and like breathing heavy
in the front seat, you see their eyes recognize what's
going on, and they spring into action. Immediately. They get
Troy and wrapped up, They take the baby from me,
they put her in Troyan's arms, they get, you know,

(59:19):
a blanket from the back of our car and put
it in the in the wheelchair, and they moved. They
got they've all moves very very fast, as you know,
it's like a pit stop in the hospital. And they
all get her. They whisked Troy and away into the
elevator and they're gone. I think they tell me what room,
and they go away. And then I'm still I'm standing
there in the lot just because my hands are still covered.

(59:43):
Everything's covered. That's shitty. Country music is still playing on
the radio. The front seats just covered in blood and
after birth. And I turned back to the security guard
just kind of look at him speechless, and he started speechless.
And we just sit and I have like a second
of like, we can't believe what just happened, and then
to bring like should I go park my car to

(01:00:04):
break the silence. He looks at me and goes, You're
gonna have to park your car, that's right, unbelievable though,
So I'm like, I mean, I'm like, yeah, I guess
that's true. I am going to have to do that.
So now I'm driving around the parking lot parking doing them.
I just went from the most real experience of my
entire life to the most banal human experience ever. And

(01:00:27):
it's so parenthood in a nutshell like so and you're like,
oh quick, let me just shut the door and get
our luggage, get our Shelly packed bags and get to
the room, Troy. And were they freaking out where they
like you had they ever seen that before? They were
having a ball. They were so like the nurses were
really wonderful and they were just like, Wow, what a

(01:00:51):
morning you had to look at this baby, you know,
they were they were having truly a good time because
she was safe. I was safe, you know, I was
now verbal, so they knew, like, there's nothing we have
to you know, really respond to. We're just going to
now proceed as if you've just delivered a baby in
the hospital. So it was really kind of very joyful.

(01:01:12):
They show her to me, they put her on my chest, I'm,
you know, holding her, and then I'm like, oh, if
I need to this placenta has to come out because
I'm still I forgot about that and I didn't feel
that because I had a little bit of the epidural
still with Aurora, but I'm still having contractions trying to
get this placenta out. They do that awesome placenta massage

(01:01:34):
where they basically just suck in the gut to get
out glorious, and then they're looking at me and they're like,
all right, you had not a lot of tearing, but
you did have tearing, so we're gonna need to stitch
you up. And I was like, honestly, after what just happened,
I don't care. You can do whatever you want to
my body. I'm fine, And yeah, it was. It was

(01:01:59):
just great. And we just are in that you know,
that room that we were expecting to be in for
twenty hours was just kind of like clean up. Basically
you're literally there for an hour. I think this is
the most amazing classic Patrick and Troy and never heard
of my life. Like when you texted me saying try
and give birth in the frenzy to the car. I

(01:02:21):
just think you guys are such like your Jui d
vive and and also you're right, you're such a great
mix of super chill but then also have anxiety stuff
like you guys are perfect dancing the line of life.
Thank god everything went well and was safe, and I'm
so I've truly never heard anything like this in my life,

(01:02:46):
like the real the realness of it. I mean, I
just try to keep picturing Troy and on all fours
digging her head into the car seat while Patrick's taking
off pants and seeing a full crowning baby. Yes, and
I mean it. I can't. I can't emphasize enough how
fast it all happens, you know, And so it was

(01:03:07):
an empowering thing I think for both of us to
just be like, if you had told us this was
going to happen, we would have been panicked for three
weeks and we'll never be able to do this. But
it's just cool when you're in the middle of something
you're like, well, we just have to do it, and
you know. Yeah, to wrap this up, I want to
know you guys, like, how are you feeling? How is

(01:03:29):
bringing her home? Introducing her to Aurora? Are you guys
in a baby bubble? Yeah? Bringing her home to Aurora
was really amazing. Well, Patrick was wonderful because once we
were super safe, he turned to me and he was like,
I'm gonna go get the car clean because we're you're
not gonna lot to drive. That's the best epilogue is
driving into the car wash with a front seat covered

(01:03:50):
in blood. This my god, what did they say? How
do you even? I pulled into the car wash, and
as the guys like approaching a car to like write
it up and tell mebody's gonna do. I look at
the passenger seat and I go, I can't do this.
What They're going to call the cops? I mean there's
blood everywhere? So I'm like, this is impossible. I spin
out of there. I'm like, oh, sorry, never mind, and

(01:04:11):
I drive out and I go home and have a
full like pulp fiction moment while I'm like cleaning the car,
you know, myself, just trying to get it at least,
you know, pre a presentable place before you so that
we can take it to the to get detailed. So yeah,
that was funny. Yeah. And then so he you know,
but also while he was doing that, he came home.

(01:04:31):
He hugged Aurora, let her know that I was okay.
And and then really when we brought Elliott to her,
she was so excited to meet her. And we did
the thing that they say it's terrible to stay about
your kid, but that you do with dogs too, where
you let where you and introduced them outside the house. Yeah,
so we did that well neutral territorial outside. You know,

(01:04:55):
I was with Eliot and she went to go get Also,
I got to go get Aurora, so my hands weren't
filled with baby, you know. So I went in and
I was just like, I'm so excited to see you,
and we got to have a moment together and then
you know, we are wanted to meet her, and she was.
I mean, we were both really aware of trying to
be sensitive about it, and for a minute once she
was like so excited, she was like, get the funk

(01:05:18):
out of my way. That is my sister. Yeah, I
want to I want to hold her. Yeah, she's mine. Yeah,
I saw that writing on the wall. I just feel
in or in Aurora's being and in her temperament that
this is she was predestined to be a sister. She
really was. And I think we saw the months of
preparation of putting that into her head of what that

(01:05:41):
meant to be a big sister and what kind of
big sister she wanted to be. That we saw that payoff,
and these we're still seeing a payoff. We have yet
to really see any extreme like jealousy or ownership of
Mama and like Inger at Elliott. None of that has
yet shown up. I mean, we're keeping our eye own
and it obviously it's bound to happen at some point,
but it all feels like we're on the same team

(01:06:02):
rather than like Mama's attention as dis Yeah. Um, and
then how it's been for us as you know, I
remember when Aurora was first born. It was I mean,
first of all, my physical recovery from that, you know,
twenty six hours of labor was just like a long
haul and it was very painful. I remember making some

(01:06:23):
some deals with uh, some supernatural things, just so I
wouldn't have to try to go to the bathroom because
I was so scared terribrotect me, please help me, all
of willing that let this first POSTCARDU and poop not
kill me yet. But but because it all happened so
fast with Elliott, it felt like my body was just

(01:06:45):
immediately like oh cool, we're back. Like I've had to
really been blow myself down, absurd to watch Troy. It
like she's just walking around the house and we're just
like life has been very remote for the last ten
days and I have to try and catch myself to
be like, dude, she just had a baby, Like, what
what more can I do? Because trying is just right

(01:07:08):
back into action. It's been phenomenal, like very different than
the first time because I think of that epidural really,
I mean the amount of time and the epidural really
took it out of you. It was at the amount
of pushing I mean, aunt one minute. This time, you
didn't push it in half. Yeah exactly, guys, we just
birthed a child in a car, but for all intensive purposes.

(01:07:30):
Like it was like you were I mean back hundreds
of years ago, like how people did it, your fucking
body did it. It was hilarious because I thought I
was pretty I don't want to say traumatized by the
first go around, but I was scared because there was
something in the back of my mind that was like
defeatist a little bit about the first time around. And

(01:07:52):
I wish I didn't have that mentality. Um, but I
guess that's just the way that I was built that
I felt like I was so scared during some of
the contractions with Aurora. They say that thing where it's
like when you're more scared of the next contraction than
you are excited to meet your baby, and like you
you're not in a good place, and I needed the
epidurala I needed that time. My body was really not

(01:08:17):
not going into the process um with with any sort
of relaxation, and I guess this time around there was
such a relief because I was like, Oh, this is
my body is taking care of me. I also think
you that so much of the early labor stuff because
Aurora was around and you had to sort of save

(01:08:39):
face a little bit. Your attention wasn't solely on it
to I mean, like you're having contractions, but you're also like,
we're good here, We're good, Like everything's good, like, you know,
literally letting her ride me like a horse, you know.
Whereas the first time around with Aurora, I think I
tried to rip Patrick sweater into during a contraction, just
to be like, you don't know what this feels like. Um,

(01:09:00):
was it public knowledge that you guys were even pregnant.
I mean, it's funny, like this will be nobody, nobody
knew you guys. I'm so honored. I think because I'm
a really anxious person and very anxious about pregnancies, I
never felt comfortable doing the like here's a picture of

(01:09:22):
me with my ultrasound. Here's a picture of me with
my growing bump, because I just had so much fear
around what might happen some you know, people who I
know who are like very or religious and Jewish, like
they will not have baby showers, they will not have
a single baby thing in the house. So to each
their own of how they feel. Absolutely like, I just

(01:09:44):
don't want to ever put attention on this. I want
to keep it close to I think there's just the
way that we communicate these things in the world now.
We're all through social media, and like, social media is
fine for what it's built for, but I think any
time we've ever engaged about some thinks so private and
so important and so special and so delicate, it always

(01:10:04):
ends up feeling difficult and you're looking at comments about it,
it just all felt like there was never the way
to do it in a way that we we like
that felt right for us. Like again, I'm so over
the moon, you know, Like I told you when I
wanted to be pregnant desperately. I enjoyed and loved seeing
so many of my friends pregnant and felt so excited

(01:10:25):
for them. And I love it when people post beautiful
pictures and feel good about that. But that just didn't
feel right for me because we're the type of people
to do check like the comments or read the things,
and we're becoming obsessive great like you know that about yourself,
and these are all things that we have to learn up.

(01:10:46):
You know. I am so honored to share with the
world that you are pregnant. There aren't words it is
to describe how Elliott game it its world, and that
you are now family of four. Yeah, and you have
two beautiful girls. And the Patrick and Troyant of this

(01:11:11):
is so you both look at me. I mean, honestly,
you do not look like you have attendal that you
delivered yourself in a well we you know, we did.
I don't know if it's been a part of this recording. Yep.
As soon as this all was good and everybody was safe,
I mean, we both turned to each other, you know,
to each other, and we're like, we got to talk

(01:11:33):
to Katie about this because your podcast had been such
an important part. We both listened to your story like
literally days before this, and we're so moved by what
you do with this podcast and who you are and
you're honesty and how much that helps people, and so
we were like so immediately knew that if there was
a place to talk about this, this was obviously it

(01:11:54):
was probably pretty scary in the moment, but now it's
like liter jus less joyous special thing. I just think
that's also provides such help and um heart for our
mommies and parents and spouses and partners and all the
people who are listening. So thank you for coming on

(01:12:14):
Katie's Oh my gosh, thank you guys for listening to
Katie's Crib. I want to hear from you you guys,
what do you want to talk about? What guest do

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