May 14, 2021 • 51 mins
Alaska Thunderfuck and Kesha discover their joint love of iconic garbage bag looks, 90s sleepover games, and sneaking into clubs. They also explore what would happen if aliens came to Earth. Alaska sounds a loud warning to listeners about never getting your tarot cards read in a club while Kesha tells ghost stories from Alaska's hometown - Erie, Pennsylvania.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Like it's one thing if like you get too drunk
and you can't fuck, like that's a bad honeymoon, but
like literally lightning, fire, burning, eternal hunting of the hotel,
that's worse. Welcome Alaska, thunder fuck who Kesha and the creepies.
(00:33):
Thank you for being here? Yes, Hi, Hi, how are you?
I cannot get over how amazing you look right now.
I can't get over how amazing you look. You make
me want to go to the jungle. Where are you?
Are you in l A? I am I'm in Los Angeles.
I'm in a forest. Oh yeah, the jungle in Los Angeles. So,
(01:03):
because this is the show, do you believe in the supernatural?
You know? I'm sort of one of those I sort
of believe that, Like I believe it. If you believe it,
well I know what I mean, Like if if it
means something to you and it affects your life and
(01:23):
your beliefs and like it's part of your your experience,
then like I'm like, yes, absolutely to me. Do I
think ghosts are running around my house? I think I
think houses hold energy? So yes, so yes, I do
believe in I do believe Okay, So because I was
talking to this woman. She was a parapsychologist. She says,
(01:45):
if you pray at all, or have ever prayed, I
don't know if you're a prayer, but when the plans
are getting bumpy, like that's a level of believing in
the supernatural exactly. So like really everybody does. I think
so too, And I think we all like I think
I'm psychic kind of but I'm probably not really, but
(02:07):
I because I believe it. It's now true, yes, and
I believe that I believe that you're psychic. I mean,
you're an artist, and so what is art? Like where
does art come from? I think art comes from And
I say this all the time about you know, when
I'm writing, the best stuff feels like it's coming from
(02:31):
somewhere else, like you have to grab it. It's up
there and you have to grab it. And then it
goes like this, well, really, what I have to do
is not grab it. I just have to get the
funk out of the way and like sit the fun
down and be quiet and listen, and then it comes
to me. So I guess that's really fucking metaphysics. Yeah, totally.
That's a very spiritual sounding way, because I feel the
(02:54):
same way, Like, is that how walk into the club
because I walk into the club and about not wearing wigs? Oh, yes,
which I really relate to that. Yeah, this is my hair.
I relate to that absolutely. It's not a song, it's
(03:14):
a lifestyle. It's a whole vibe moment. But you wrote
those yourself, right, Well, yes, I will say walk into
the club though, you see I either as an artist,
do you see? I either received the spiritual energies from
above or I just straight up steal the idea, which
(03:36):
with walking to the club, I stole it from Bob
the Drag Queen because we were in a dressing room
and she was like, someone should just do a song.
That's like because all the drag Queen's songs are like
so I walk into the club and I'm sickening, and
what if somebody just did a song that was like
I walk into the club and I walk into the club,
and I was like stolen doing it? And I did?
(04:00):
I love Bob. Bob was on my cruise, I think
right when cruises were a thing. Do you remember when?
Al right, it was so much fun. Oh, there was
so much that we had, like drag shows and drag brunch.
It was so lovely. I know it looked like so
(04:22):
much fun. It was really fun next time one day,
if they come back that the cruise, I would be
on it, so much fun. But going back, so you
either steal your art, which I think, like, what is
truly original idea? I feel like we're just a culmination
of everything we've consumed in our life, right, So exactly
(04:46):
I understand that. Yes, and now with the Internet, everything
is instantaneous. So if I want to see a picture
of this outfit that Tyra Banks was wearing on this
episode of America's Next Top Model in two thousand seven,
I can. So it's it's very like it's different now.
And I you know, I'm a drag queen as well,
(05:07):
So I just steal from I steal literally everything. Well,
I mean, as a I would call myself a total
culture vulture too, because that's what I do. It's kind
of my job to like watch what's going on and
respond accordingly. I think you do too, And like like
you're saying, instantaneously you can be like share nineteen seventies
(05:30):
six and all of a sudden you have inspiration. Exactly,
you can't help it, and you can put it on
a Pinterest board, which my sister loved. My sister is
obsessed with Pinterest. I don't understand Pinterest. I don't get it.
You can't buy things off of it. What is the
point You're like, I don't want to look at it.
I want to buy it. I want to buy it.
(05:52):
What are you doing? I don't want to look at pictures?
And I get, you know, I get. I've heard it's
used for for inspirational purposes. Okay, good enough, Because I
fancy myself a psychic. I was going to see if
we could psychically connect, try to like telepathically connect. And
(06:14):
We're just gonna like draw a picture first thing that
you think, like, would you like to send it to me?
Or I can send it to you? You send? You
send an image to me in your brain? Okay, but
do I draw it too? Sure? You draw, and I'm
going to try to just like receive it. Are we
doing a word? Are we doing an object? Um? It's
a it's a it's an object. Okay, all right, okay, okay,
(06:41):
And I'm sending you that. I'm sending you all the
vibes of this. Okay, I'm just gonna take it. I
want to use it. I really have a feeling like,
oh wow, you're taking me on a journey right now.
You really urious why you're drawing. Well, you know you're
(07:03):
drawing the same things. I mean, I think I am.
I'm taking some artistic freedoms with your image. I'm receiving. Okay,
tell me when Okay, this is cute, You're like, cue,
(07:26):
I think it was a demon from hell. Oh no, okay,
I'll show you yours if you show me, or I'll
show you mine if you show me yours. Okay, I'm ready,
I'm ready. Okay, you're ready at the same time. Three. Wow,
that is not what I received. A dick, A dick
(07:46):
with a rainbow on it and hair. I was gonna
drawn anus, okay, which, yeah, okay, yeah, But yours is
so cute. It's an elegant top sitting on a little
um cittee. I'm so much filthier than you. You would
(08:08):
think that that. No, I mean, I have I have album.
I have an album called as, I have an album
called vagina Um. You would think that that would be
my first go to. So like a dick rainbow, dick
rainbow with pubic hair and the common little hearts of love.
All that's sweet. Literally, the most risque thing is that
(08:34):
my elephant has eyelashes. Who have sexy? Okay, well I failed.
I guess I'm not psychic. You know, we're just we're
getting warmed up. We're really all I mean, we're like
on the right path. Yes, exactly. It just minds like
an elephant dick, right, a curved elephant rainbow. That elephant
(09:00):
added dick in the picture. It looked like this. It's
just in fact, yes, I think you're right. Okay, So
I don't actually know if I'm that psychic, but I
have had moments in my life where I thought I
was psychic. But I also have moments where people try
to psychically read me and I'm like stop, no, stop
it because it kind of freaks me out. I was wondering, like,
(09:23):
what your experience Have you ever been to a psychic?
Have you good experiences, bad experiences? Oh? I hate it.
I do not. I do not like anyone telling me
what to do. Ever, I don't like people telling me
what I should do with my life. And basically that's
what a psychic does, Like a tarot reader is like,
here's what you should do. I don't like it. I
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don't like. I was in a nightclub once, which I
shouldn't have gotten my cards around in a nightclub. I
don't know what I was thinking for stuff. They seemed
very lovely and very nice, and they were like, let
me read your cards, baby, let me read your cards,
and um, and I was dating this guy and I
was like, I was kind of thinking it was just
not going to work out, and this this psychic person
(10:06):
was like, no, give him a chance, give him, give
him a chance. It's gonna be it's gonna work out.
It's gonna be great. Meanwhile, this guy went on to
like be completely really bad, really bad man. He was
lying about his job, and like he stole my passport.
He was a really bad so since then your passport.
(10:30):
He stole my passport and I had to go to
the UK the next day. Would you do? Would you
go to the the embassy? I went to the embassy. I
went down to where studio city or where wherever the
funk it is, I don't know. And I stood there
in line all day and I was a day late
to the UK, but I did make it. They printed
(10:52):
one up for me. Well, I think that psychic sounds
like a con person. It was not good. Maybe they
were in cahoots or something. I don't know, what do
you do if somebody's passport, I guess steal your identity.
I you know, I don't think it was that. I
think he just wanted to hurt. He just wanted to
hurt my feelings. See. To me, that's more of a
(11:15):
pain than the ass. I'd be like, this is why
I'm like really petitioned for gun control, because someone stole
my passport. I would just be like, I would wave
it around it exactly. Gun control now, yeah, because of me.
I don't trust myself. Girl, Yes, I'm too crazy for
guns to be legal exactly. Oh my god. I don't
(11:38):
remember the name of it. But I was like on
a roll, just I've just been like in your world
for the past twenty But you have a song about
aliens coming to earth. I do. What's it called? I do?
It's called aliens. Oh that's what I thought. Okay, so
it's available and I um no, it's it's a song
(12:01):
and it's called Aliens. And basically, my best friend Jeremy
and I we went into the woods and I mean
talk about you know, metaphysical and everything like that. We
we like listen to the river and listen to nature,
and we wrote music and we put it out on
this album called Amethyst Journey. Oh my god, And you're
not into hippie ship are you crazy? What am I
(12:22):
talking about? Hippie dippiest fucking person I've ever seen? Um
And one of the songs it's called Aliens, and it's
basically about like if there were aliens, which I mean
it's probably, it's very likely there are, but if there were,
they would probably take one quick look at like Earth
and humanity and they'd be like like keep walking, keep walking,
(12:48):
keep walking, Like I'm not going to touch that show
with a tem foot pole. No exactly. It's we're too
toxic and unstable and wild and bad. Like it's we
just as a humanity, we have a we have a
lot of work to do before the aliens are going
to like invite us. Saying well, I'm like, I kind
of have seen all this alien news coming out the
(13:10):
past year. I swear there has been so many different
people from all walks of life coming out and talking
about aliens. Like I was talking to Demi Lovada. She's
talking about how she can conjure up extraterrestrials and talk
to them like through meditation. Yes, and I know that's
(13:31):
Kelly Osborne also like, and I've had experiences in the desert.
So all different people that I've been talking to have
had these experiences. There are aliens coming, They're coming, it's happening.
There are spaceships. It's confirmed. Google it everybody out there.
I don't really have the sources in front of me,
so it sounds like bullshit, but just give it a Google.
(13:53):
Aliens are Okay, I'm gonna look this up because I
feel like on Twitter it's very like we're able to
you can post a clip. If you see something in
the sky happening, you can post it. There's no filter
of who can see it. And so I think there
is more and more, like, you know, stuff coming out
(14:14):
and just it's so much stuff because it was like
New York Times and Daily Mail and TMZ. So to me,
I'm like, it's slowly becoming mainstream culture to like have
it be just a part of the conversation. And I
know that you're Alaska Thunderfunck, You're an alien, right a
little yeah, yeah, no, definitely, Yeah. The character of Alaska.
(14:43):
Thunder Funck is from the planet Glamtron. And this this character,
this idea of being an alien. I always describe it
as it was like beamed into my mind when I
first moved to l A and I was like, that's
just who she is. That's what she is. She's an alien. Yeah,
and I see that. I feel that from you. I
(15:03):
feel like I'm an alien also. But my mom genuinely
believes she's an alien, like actually thinks she's part alien.
I know, and I believe her. If you met her,
you would believe her too. But she's like from Indiana
and it's just like the wildest person and she's like,
I'm part alien. I think there's a place called the
(15:23):
turd dimension because she thinks that, like you're basically like
a how she described it as like you're like a
raisin in a lawn chair and you just and you
like you just kick back and you can like teleport.
That's what she said on her planet. That's so that's
(15:44):
like a half of my DNA, A good half. You're
you're a half raisin in a lawn chair, which makes
it perfect sense to me. I love that. I did
Salvia once and I thought that I was a hungry,
(16:05):
hungry hippo rainbow. I thought I was a rainbow swirl
and I woke up from my life and my life
was just a dream. But I was actually a rainbow swirl,
hungry hungry hippo and we were all in a row
in a rainbow. Oh my god, the marbles eating the marbles,
eating the marbles that I was that See, you are psychic.
(16:28):
You knew it. I love that game, Hungry Hungry Hippos.
It's the first time I've thought about it since I
was about seven. It's a high intensity, action packed game.
It's a wild I love it. Fuck video games. These kids,
the hungry hippos, and let's see what happens these babies
(16:50):
being brought up on iPads. No, we had actual hippos
that eight metal marbles there were rainbow colored and you
had to fight for them like your life depended on it,
aggressively exactly. That's where I got my drive from Hungry
motherfucking hip Hop. I'm so happy you brought that up.
(17:11):
I'm gonna get I'm going to get that again. Justn't
gonna try it again. I I think you should. It's
not a drug. No, it's a game. It's a fierce game.
It's a fierce game. And like Twister, I remember when
you had to like play games and move a part
of your body right exactly. It's kind of risque. I mean,
(17:37):
it's like it's like foot. Did you ever have sexy Twister?
See no, see no, not no, not I not I,
but I understand that some would. That's like the I
thought it was the main vehicle for Twister is to
(17:58):
like play strip Twister and you're like, my foot's on
your foot and then you rub your boob on someone's
arm and like they get like kind of a boner
and you're really excited about it. It lends itself to
eroticism very easily. I can. It's not a far leap
left foot. It's kinky, guys. It is the old games
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were really kinky and fun and ferocious. It really makes sense.
I don't know what this has to do with I
don't know what this has to do with the supernatural,
but I'm happy we touched on it. How was your
experience on drag Race? And seemed amazing? It was good.
I mean it's a horrible, terrifying, like um ghastly experience
(18:50):
to be on Drag Race. But that being said, it
completely changes your life as a drag queen. It's the
it's the biggest show in the world. It changed so
many people's lives. It's changing culture. But like being in
there and being on the show is horror, is a
horrifying anxiety experience. So the first time I went, I
(19:13):
was like, there's no way I'm gonna win. I'm going
home every day I was. I was convinced I was
going home every day, and I didn't. I stayed till
the end. So I was just really grateful to be there.
Oh my god, it was so much because I was
a I was a guest judge on a couple of
seasons back, and it just seemed so terrifying. Like I
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know that feeling because I'll be on stage at like
a thing and I'll be like, I'm terrified, and I
felt so Honestly, I can't walk in high heels, so
to see like dead drops in heels, I was just like,
I'm the worst woman in the world. I have to
wear like flat boots because I'm like Nashville hill By,
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Like I'm watching Drag Race, I'm like, girl, put your
heels on I'm barefoot. I love that. I want to
do a song called flats because because heels are bad
for you. They're like smoking cigarettes, Like they're really just
bad for your health. They're bad for your skeleton. They're
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hard to walk in. Like I'm like, if I'm in flats,
I can fucking hit the choreography. I can dance. If
you put me in heels, I'm like, it is it
is a toss up whether I'm gonna be standing. I
can stand there kind of Oh. I like tore my
knee because I was in like two inch heels. This
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is sad. This is this, this game I hate a
dangerous game and I failed. I lost the game the
heels one, so I just like I gave up. But
I will say when I watched Drag Race, I'm like,
fucking get your ship together, Kesha, like get it together,
like you're one of those people. I was watching you
(21:04):
and I was like, God, damn it, I really need
to get it together. Your coreo your song so good. Well,
thank God, you know, I mean, thank God for camera editing. Seriously,
it's a blessing. Do you know that one of your
songs is one of the first songs I did in
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my early drag career, know which one? Tell me? Have
you heard of the show? Have you heard of the
children's show The Big Comfy Couch? Okay, one person here
who's very excitedly going like this, but I don't, but
please tell us, tell us what it is. Go okay,
So The Big Comfy Couches is it a show about
(21:45):
a big comfy couch. And it's a girl named Luna
and Molly a clown in her dolly, So she's like
a clown girl. And incidentally, she was the girl who
did the voice of Jubilee on the X Men cartoon.
That's my side, okay. So this clown girl every episode
would do this thing where she would lay down on
(22:06):
a giant clock carpet, okay, and with her arms and
legs she would go around the clock. Feeling, I know
where this is going. So I did the sock ticktok
and I dressed him like Lunette the clown, and I
did the legs going around a clock thing. Oh my god,
(22:28):
where do I find this? There's Luckily cameras were not
proliferated at that so there, you know, you never know,
though I don't know. Maybe there's footage of it somewhere,
but it was one of the very earliest numbers I
did at the Blue Moon in Pittsburgh. The Blue Moon,
Oh my god. So that's like where you started out.
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It's where I like learned how to be a drag queen,
I really think. So in a dive bar with it,
you know, a really rough sound system, and we were
just sucking around and I learned how to fucking be
a drag queen there. So the first time you ever
did drag, well, I remember the first time I went
(23:11):
out in drag. Yes, there's always been Oh, let me
dress up, let me put it, let me do rocky horror,
you know for Halloween. That doesn't count. The first time
you do drag is when you get up in it
and you go out to a gay bar and you
just go for fun. That's what we did. So my
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best friend Elena and I we were like, okay, let's
do it. I had this blonde wig, probably from a
Halloween collection, and I was like, it's not big enough.
I need you to make it bigger. So Elena teas
the funk out of it and made it bigger, and
I was like, I don't have any clothes, so I
made a tube top and a miniskirt out of black
garbage bag. Yes, love that. I put on all this
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cover girl mascara and makeup, smoky eye, and we went
out to the to the bar and I was like,
this is it, this is my coming out. And then
there were like five people. It was like a Tuesday night.
It was like no one was out, no one saw us,
but we did it. And basically I've basically been wearing
big teath, fucking blonde hair, and black garbage bags ever since.
(24:17):
Oh my god, well same garbage bag. Okay. The first
time I ever went to the v M as I
believe because of the amazing everyone was calling me like
a trash queen and I was like, thank you, so
let me make my dress out of garbage bags. I
remember it was like a whole thing. People thought it
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was so shocking and I was like, you're calling me trashy,
that's so iconic. That's trash and the treasure right there,
which is the whole philosophy. Because I saw in your
special you had like this whole trash um. I don't
know what it was a you looked like the flying
(24:58):
nun but glory hole kind of. Yeah. I don't know
what you would call that thing, but it's amazing and
it is like a giant those trash right, she was
trash bags, uh, and we it was. It was sort
of a reference to Lady Gaga did this art pop
performance where she started out with just her hole in
(25:18):
a white board and we were like, we're going to
steal that, but make a garbage and that is how
you make art. That is art, that is pop. Holle Lou.
It's so true, like even watching you on drag Race,
you would like that a greenish bluish trash back dress.
(25:42):
It's so beautiful. I feel like the textures gorgeous. It's
all in perspective like you would have never known that sarbage.
I think so too. And it never bio degrades, so
you're always going to have the gar mat like you'll
all you'll have forever. It's non recyclable. Yeah, it's killing
the earth, but it's gorgeous. But it's not killing the
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earth if it's in my closet and I say, I
tell you, I save every single plastic tablecloth that I use.
I keep them for years. I like, I I still
I have them all. I keep them because I don't.
I don't want to, you know, I don't want to
add to the c spire C. No, I'll send you
in my trash Okay, I'll send you all my trash bags.
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I have so much. I have so many clothes. I'm
actually going through all the clothes from all the tours
and I'm like, what do I do with all of this?
It's really hard. I mean, I'm you should save stuff
for like like the museum, like the like archival, have
some some things like that. But then the in Betweens,
(26:50):
you're you know, RuPaul has an entire apartment just for
her clothes. That's exactly what I mean. You need that,
I need that. I kind of you know what. My
entire home is just a closet. It really, it takes over.
I have like six bedrooms full of clothing. Hey work.
(27:15):
I don't know if that's work or if that's like
hoarding between like hoarding trash work hord w. Yeah. I
like a lot of my early outfits came from like goodwill,
and then I sewed myself. Did you make a lot
(27:38):
of your outfits yourself? Do you make your absolutely? I mean,
thank god, I have really amazing talented friends who know
how to like design some amazing as clothes, So I'm
grateful for that. But I mean a lot of like
this I found. I found this at Goodwill and then
I cut it. I cut it open so that it
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would fit me, and then I tied the I tied
the draw string around my around my neck. That's amazing.
I found this in my closet I didn't even know
was there. And then there's pieces of chandelier that have
been stuck to it, and so then I just tied
some chandelier into my cleavage. I love I love you amazing.
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We should totally play in each other's closets. I think
it's really really fun. Yes, please, I'm so down. Well,
I have a lot of closets, six rooms, six rooms
full of it's not just the closets, the room, the
rooms of shoes. It's a problem. Um, let me talk
(28:48):
about some more creepy things. So where you're from, where
you started doing drag, your origin place is super fucking
haunted we Erie, Pennsylvania. I see. I mean it's it's
named Erie. I would hope that it had some spooky ship.
It's really scary. I started like looking it up. Do
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you know about how creepy the place you're from is.
I don't know. Tell me there's like, okay, there's an
ax murderer. That grass won't grow on the side of
the street because he murdered some people. I'm like looking
at it right now. Okay. For the past sixty years,
people have told the story of a couple who sees
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an ax wielding ghost off Thomas Road. Do you know
about Thomas Road? I don't know. You love Thomas You
live on Thomas Road and the mom is on Thomas
Road right now? Yes, okay, let's save her because the
farmer wielding the axe supposedly has haunted the woods since
hacking his wife entered lover to death nearby. I love that.
(29:56):
Oh my gosh, Thomas Road. There's like five roads in eerie.
I don't well, don't go there because apparently they say
on one side of the road the grass won't grow
and on the other side it does. That kind of
sounds like vagina. You know, the grass on the grows
(30:19):
on one side. Don't ask. I don't know. I can't
tell you why. Okay, so maybe my pussies OneD um.
When you walk through that area in the middle of
the day, birds will be chirping on one side of
the road and not the other where the old farmhouse
used to be. That is wild. I need to go
(30:39):
to Thomas Road, and I need to go where the
grass don't grow. There's a song whether grass don't grows,
don't grow. Chop it up, chop it up, chopper up,
chopper up. Oh my god, that's dark. Well these are
these are? Yeah? That is dark? Okay. Hotel it deals
(31:03):
in the Maccabre hotel. Cannot Yeah, we've been there, Okay,
I mean yeah, we used to go there as kids
to Kanye. Is it a like it's a hotel? Would
you sneak in the point? I don't know if we
went to the hotel. That's really rich for us. We
were going to the hotel, but we would go over
(31:25):
like the day we'd go to like Kanye and like
Kanye Lake and Kanyea Park and like, Okay, so I've
been near there. Why what happened? Okay? So they're in
Lightning struck the roof of the hotel and a horrible
fire broke out as a result. Elizabeth, a young bride
(31:45):
on her honeymoon, was burned to death. Oh my gosh.
She haunts the halls of the hotel at night. Damn,
I love this ship. That's a rough honeymoon. Not suck
like it's one thing. If like you get too drunk
and you can't fuck, like that's a bad honeymoon. But
(32:07):
like literally lightning fire burning, eternal hunting of the hotel,
that's worse. I mean, it's kind of epic. Though she's memorable.
She makes an impression. Yeah, we're talking about her honey
(32:29):
to this day. I want to go there. Alright, you
should chake it out. Let's go. Okay, the Cathedral of
Saint Paul. Okay, have you been there? Do you go
to church? Not like that? Not like that as much
as I can. I used to go to the Catholic
(32:50):
Like we would go to a Catholic service on like Christmas,
like a Christmas service or whatever, and they are so
shady because they would be like, if you're Catholic, you
can come up and have the cookie and the and
the wine. Yeah, And I was a little kid, and
I was like, we're not Catholic and I wasn't allowed
to have the fucking juice and the fucking cookie after
(33:11):
this long ass service. Well, I was pissed. Okay, to me,
the eating the body and blood of Christ, like that's cannibalism.
The girl, I know, the pearl clutching at like two
men can't get married. Now, let's go eat Jesus's body
and drink is blood. Like, give the kids the wine.
(33:35):
I remember being a little kid being like eating the
cookie and drinking wine at like nine years old, almost
being like, oh, I'm eating Jesus and drinking his blood.
Let's go. But two gays can't hold hands Heaven, they
can't do it. That's that's tragic, and it's real. It's
(33:58):
that's sad because it's so real. It's wild. So at
the Cathedral of St. Paul, supposed to be haunted by
the ghost of a little girl, Katie, who died in
a car crash near the church, church visitors report hearing
the jovial laugh of a little girl and sounds of
heavy objects moving around the empty rooms. Oh this is cute.
(34:19):
Paranormal investigators reported the church organ playing by itself during
an investigation. I love that. Well, you know, the good
thing about that is Katie's having a good time. The
laughter is jovial, she's playing the piano. She probably gets
to drink the wine does exactly all you can eat wafers.
(34:42):
I mean, Katie is at least having a sickning time
in the after moving heavy objects. All you can drink
Blood of Jesus, go off, Katie, Katie Honey, Katie Honey.
She's having a good time. But I just had no
idea that that's where you're from is one of the
(35:05):
most haunted places in the United States. I had no
idea either. See we didn't. I have no idea. Thank
you for educating me. I mean, I appreciate you, are
so welcome. I learned from the internet, but I was shocked.
I didn't know. But I just didn't know. Maybe like
(35:25):
coming up in the club scene, you ever saw creepy ship?
Because I find clubs to be pretty creepy. There's I've
had some weird experiences in the back of dirty clubs well,
because you never know what has gone down, and it's
always dark and like and when you see the club
in the daytime, it's like a completely it is very
(35:47):
like creepy and kind of eerie and kind of it's
kind of dark and sketchy, and you're like, why would
I go in there? And then nightfalls and all of
a sudden, you're like, I want to go in there totally.
You put a wing on and like some lashes, and
all of a sudden is creepy building that you would
avoid at all costs. Then you're like, get me in there.
(36:08):
I gotta wait in line just together. You don't seem
like the type that would wait in line to get
into a club. I mean that as a compliment. You know,
I used to listen. Okay, no, I still have. I'm
still very very scared to like skip the line, even
if I'm like I know the person running the door
(36:30):
and I know that because I have an immense fear
of being rejected at doors. And then once you walk
past everyone who's waiting in line, and you are you
just oh, I'm I don't wait in line, and then
they tell you, now, no, that walk back is the
(36:52):
most humbling have a stating walk that you can it's
not even worth it. So I'm like, I'll just wait
in line and make friends with the people in line
at that point because I can't take that rejection shame, devastation.
You know what that happened to me. I went out
for the first time in like however long this quarantine
(37:14):
has been going on. I went to go see my
friend do comedy, and I was like, what do I do?
I can't do the shame walk. So I just stood
in the middle of a parking lot and just waved
my face around. It's like it's me and nobody, nobody,
(37:40):
like it was very odd in hindsight, that's a weird move.
Like just couldn't because it's like, I'm not going up
to the front because if someone's like, go go to
the line like that walk of shame, that's a way.
That's the most shameful walk I think there is. It
really is like I don't remember, oh it is. It
(38:02):
isn't want to remember. Mandy Moore the only the only
time I threw around the do you know Who the
fun I Am? Is? Way before Drag Race, when literally
no one would know who the funk I Am. But
that's what I learned. It doesn't work. It just doesn't
work no matter who you are. I mean, it just
does that. Oh you know, how to sneak in places?
(38:24):
I used to be really good at this. I would
walk with conviction through the back door and be on
the phone, but not be on the phone, and I
would just be like I can't. I don't know what
to tell you. The catering is just and I would
just walk in. I've snuck into so many shows like
huh see, it's it's an acting challenge really because it's
(38:45):
the conviction. Yeah, and I wouldn't even want to go
wherever I'm going. I just wanted to see if I
could get in, and then I'd be like, they'd be like,
I don't even want to be I'm want to see
if I can get in, Like I didn't Prince's house work,
you know what the catering. Listen, I am not paying
(39:05):
that price for crab puffs. I'm sorry, excuse me, No,
it works, It works. Try it. That's how my excuse
to steal fabric from Joann Fabrics. She would she would
get it cut at the fabric cutting station, get a
(39:28):
whole bunch of fabric cut, and then put it on
as a scarf and then get on her phone and
be like, yeah, they didn't have it. I know, I
looked everywhere, they just didn't have it and walk out
of the door. It's kind of ingenious. It works. It
really works. People steal before cell phones. That's what I
(39:50):
wanted that I don't know I should ask my mom.
She's the one that taught me. But I've learned not
to steal anymore. Anyone listening. Don't steal things? Yeah, no,
unless I mean there's caveats to most rules, but I
(40:11):
think it's a good rule. Yeah, I mean if I mean,
if it's a corporation who cares. Yeah, I mean like
if it's Yeah, if they're terrible to their employees, and
like you need chaps tick just like steal, don't see
you you're gonna have so you may be possessed by
(40:40):
the little girl who fell down the stairs and earing
send something. You know what. I am that little girl.
Don't listen to her. I am that little girl. I
am moved some heavy objects tonight. Okay, favorite favorite scary movie? Oh,
(41:01):
oh my gosh. I'm very partial to the Halloween series,
like the like the First Halloween, Like Jamie Lee Curtis
is iconic, and it's it was just she's such a
badass and it's like it was really cool. I love
Did you see the newer one? How do you feel
(41:22):
about the newer one? Um? Did I see it? Like
the and she was in it? Yes, I liked it.
She was like a survivalist and she's like, you don't
know what I've been through. Yes, And then they didn't,
and then she like saved the day she did. She
had to say she had a panic room. Yeah she did.
(41:42):
I like her. I do too, Okay, So that's I love.
The Halloween ones are good. My favorites the Shining. Have
you seen the Shining? Oh, the Shining School. I mean
talk about a haunted, scary building that I love it.
The place So when I was little, my mom took
us to the hotel that the Shining was based on
(42:04):
when I was like six years old. Monster an alien,
but it's scared. I think that's like why I'm sitting
here today talking to you about it is because like
it started five years old. She was like, took us
on tours of scary places yours. It's also traumatizing. It's
(42:33):
like this is where the axe murderer came through the door.
She loves that ship. This is where the haunted Twins
road tricycle. Like I've it's been imprinted into my life
now because that's like what I grew up doing is
going to haunted places and like being obsessed with haunted things,
(42:55):
playing shows and haunted places. Have you ever been to
the rave in Milwaukee? You it to sh other the rave? Yeah,
is that what it's called. There's like one place in
Milwaukee that's where Jeffrey Dahmer used to find his victims.
It's like my favorite place. Oh my god, that's terrifying.
I don't think I've played it, but now I want to. Okay, Well,
(43:16):
maybe if you're open to it, one day I can
take you somewhere scary and scared the ship out of you.
I feel like, please do and a rave. Oh my god,
after the year we've had, we deserve it, like a
terrifying rape, tear terror rave. That's a good idea. I
should be on the list of things to do as
(43:38):
soon as we're out of this shift. Um. Let's see,
I'm jogging grocery store, tear dining indoors terror rave. That's
such a good idea. I am writing it down, Francis,
write it down. Um. Do you feel like you're like
(44:00):
drag community is like a coven of witches? Or is
that just me projecting um my witchiness and love and witches?
I mean no, I completely believe it. I completely believe it,
and I do believe in that energy that comes around
when you get together with your you know, close sisters
(44:24):
and it's like the three of you or the four
of you there, it really should happens. That's real. The
craft is real. The craft my girls that come over
to my house that are my like coven, we're crazy bitches,
Like we are crazy, and like between all of us
(44:47):
we get ship done, like in a way that I
really feel like there's just a power when we all
start like opulating at the same time. It's very weird.
That's real ship. I mean, that's nature, and that like
psychic ship is natural. Like that is real. That's real
(45:09):
as well. I think the supernatural things are actually just
really natural. We're just really kind of far away from
the natural world. We're cut off from them. We've been
told that they're false for so many years, but like
they make themselves known. And the energy, like you're talking
about the energy of like you and your closest people,
(45:32):
the people you trust and want to build up and
want to build you up, and like just wanting to
see each other be successful is like such a magical
feeling to have a group like that. It definitely is,
And I just I don't know, I just wanted to
know if like that's how you and your drag sisters
are like, or do you guys just want to kill
(45:53):
each other? I don't know. I mean that's the thing,
is like drag queens like on TV, they want us
to know. They want us to fight and scream and
like hit one another and getting fights and untucked, which
we do because we're also really good at making television,
but we also are like when it's the real life,
(46:14):
it's like something about going through life and doing drag
and being a drag queen is like you're bonded to
even even queens. I don't know. If I show up
to a city and I'm feeling jet lagged and whatever,
as soon as I get in the dressing room, I'm like, Oh,
this is home. These are my sisters, this is home.
This is that. That's what it seems like. That's always
(46:37):
what I would have imagined it would feel like, because
it's kind of a little bit how it is like
being a woman in pop music. Like yeah, like once
you finally like are around each other, then you're like,
oh my god, I love your music, and then you
speek out and it's great and then but like for
the drama of it all. I feel like pitting people
(46:58):
against each other is better for business. It is. Yes,
it's better for business. It sells papers, um, and it
keeps us from getting together and doing some metaphysical cosmic shit. Yes,
so it keeps us controllable to pit us against one another.
(47:20):
It's You're absolutely right. I totally agree. It distracts us
from the power we could harness if we just focused
on building each other up. Let's see. I love you okay, um,
Oh my god, Okay, I'm gonna sunk up the name,
(47:43):
so I'm gonna let you say it. But your comedy special.
Uh well, okay. I made the title of it up
on stage at the comedy Special, so I think it's
something like. I think it's Alaska thunder Fox Extra Special
Comedy Special. Yes, that is it, and it's really really funny.
Everyone should go check it out. Where can they find it?
(48:06):
You can find it on Apple tv um. If you're
in Canada, you can find it on out tv um.
If you're in the UK, you can find it on
Fruit f R O O T, or you can look
on the link in my bio on Instagram. If you
can't find it, boom Okay, what's your Instagram? Shamelessly promote
go um on Instagram. I'm at the only Alaska five
(48:30):
thousand and um. My website is Alaska Thunderfunk dot com.
Oh my god, I don't even have Kesha dot com.
I don't know who does. Don't know. You need to
find out who does. Francis, we need a terror rave
(48:51):
of happening, and I need my website name. You need
to walk into their house sternly on the phone from
the back door, like, do you know that my mom's
an alien? Give me my fucking website. I love your music.
I really do like listening to it, but getting ready
(49:13):
today was so much fun, like putting on like makeup
and bedazzles and you know this is not a wig,
Like I related to all the songs. Thank you. It's
really good for that. It's good for working out, and
it's good for like getting ready and drag. Definitely, I'm
like just starting your day on a happy note. If
(49:35):
anybody is like, fuck this quarantine, I hate it, you
should definitely put on Alaska thunder Fox music and you
will be in such a better mood and your makeup
look amazing and your hair. But I didn't do this.
That was somebody else that is very talented. But okay,
(49:57):
this is fun. Would you like to start because conspiracy
theory right now? Yeah? Um, yes I would. Um. I mean,
I'm not starting it, but I do want to perpetuate it.
Um And it's that. It's that Taylor Swift is Xena LaVey,
the daughter of Anton LaVey of the Church of um
(50:20):
Um Satan. Yes, I mean, it's just true. It's not
it's not really a conspiracy or a theory. It's just
the truth so propagated everywhere. I'm friends with Taylor's I
am not going to touch it, but I'm not going
to edit it out. Said, well, she will either love
(50:43):
or hate that. Look at pictures of them next to
each other. I'm telling you they look No, that's where
that's where this comes from. They look exactly alike. She
looks like Xena lave A. Well, I think that's a
really good place to end on. Like that's I don't know,
it's going to get me better than that answer you
You're like, this interview is over, Like, I think I
(51:05):
think that's a micro trop moment. Check out Alaska Thunder
Fox Comedy Special Comedy special. It's so funny and you're amazing.
You're super inspirational. Thank you so for you. Thank you,
it's so much fun to talk like shoot the show
with you today, you too, Thanks for having me course,
(51:29):
hopefully I'll see you soon. Yeah. Absolutely, keep on
Like it's one thing if like you get too drunk
and you can't fuck, like that's a bad honeymoon, but
like literally lightning, fire, burning, eternal hunting of the hotel,
that's worse. Welcome Alaska, thunder fuck who Kesha and the creepies.
(00:33):
Thank you for being here? Yes, Hi, Hi, how are you?
I cannot get over how amazing you look right now.
I can't get over how amazing you look. You make
me want to go to the jungle. Where are you?
Are you in l A? I am I'm in Los Angeles.
I'm in a forest. Oh yeah, the jungle in Los Angeles. So,
(01:03):
because this is the show, do you believe in the supernatural?
You know? I'm sort of one of those I sort
of believe that, Like I believe it. If you believe it,
well I know what I mean, Like if if it
means something to you and it affects your life and
(01:23):
your beliefs and like it's part of your your experience,
then like I'm like, yes, absolutely to me. Do I
think ghosts are running around my house? I think I
think houses hold energy? So yes, so yes, I do
believe in I do believe Okay, So because I was
talking to this woman. She was a parapsychologist. She says,
(01:45):
if you pray at all, or have ever prayed, I
don't know if you're a prayer, but when the plans
are getting bumpy, like that's a level of believing in
the supernatural exactly. So like really everybody does. I think
so too, And I think we all like I think
I'm psychic kind of but I'm probably not really, but
(02:07):
I because I believe it. It's now true, yes, and
I believe that I believe that you're psychic. I mean,
you're an artist, and so what is art? Like where
does art come from? I think art comes from And
I say this all the time about you know, when
I'm writing, the best stuff feels like it's coming from
(02:31):
somewhere else, like you have to grab it. It's up
there and you have to grab it. And then it
goes like this, well, really, what I have to do
is not grab it. I just have to get the
funk out of the way and like sit the fun
down and be quiet and listen, and then it comes
to me. So I guess that's really fucking metaphysics. Yeah, totally.
That's a very spiritual sounding way, because I feel the
(02:54):
same way, Like, is that how walk into the club
because I walk into the club and about not wearing wigs? Oh, yes,
which I really relate to that. Yeah, this is my hair.
I relate to that absolutely. It's not a song, it's
(03:14):
a lifestyle. It's a whole vibe moment. But you wrote
those yourself, right, Well, yes, I will say walk into
the club though, you see I either as an artist,
do you see? I either received the spiritual energies from
above or I just straight up steal the idea, which
(03:36):
with walking to the club, I stole it from Bob
the Drag Queen because we were in a dressing room
and she was like, someone should just do a song.
That's like because all the drag Queen's songs are like
so I walk into the club and I'm sickening, and
what if somebody just did a song that was like
I walk into the club and I walk into the club,
and I was like stolen doing it? And I did?
(04:00):
I love Bob. Bob was on my cruise, I think
right when cruises were a thing. Do you remember when?
Al right, it was so much fun. Oh, there was
so much that we had, like drag shows and drag brunch.
It was so lovely. I know it looked like so
(04:22):
much fun. It was really fun next time one day,
if they come back that the cruise, I would be
on it, so much fun. But going back, so you
either steal your art, which I think, like, what is
truly original idea? I feel like we're just a culmination
of everything we've consumed in our life, right, So exactly
(04:46):
I understand that. Yes, and now with the Internet, everything
is instantaneous. So if I want to see a picture
of this outfit that Tyra Banks was wearing on this
episode of America's Next Top Model in two thousand seven,
I can. So it's it's very like it's different now.
And I you know, I'm a drag queen as well,
(05:07):
So I just steal from I steal literally everything. Well,
I mean, as a I would call myself a total
culture vulture too, because that's what I do. It's kind
of my job to like watch what's going on and
respond accordingly. I think you do too, And like like
you're saying, instantaneously you can be like share nineteen seventies
(05:30):
six and all of a sudden you have inspiration. Exactly,
you can't help it, and you can put it on
a Pinterest board, which my sister loved. My sister is
obsessed with Pinterest. I don't understand Pinterest. I don't get it.
You can't buy things off of it. What is the
point You're like, I don't want to look at it.
I want to buy it. I want to buy it.
(05:52):
What are you doing? I don't want to look at pictures?
And I get, you know, I get. I've heard it's
used for for inspirational purposes. Okay, good enough, Because I
fancy myself a psychic. I was going to see if
we could psychically connect, try to like telepathically connect. And
(06:14):
We're just gonna like draw a picture first thing that
you think, like, would you like to send it to me?
Or I can send it to you? You send? You
send an image to me in your brain? Okay, but
do I draw it too? Sure? You draw, and I'm
going to try to just like receive it. Are we
doing a word? Are we doing an object? Um? It's
a it's a it's an object. Okay, all right, okay, okay,
(06:41):
And I'm sending you that. I'm sending you all the
vibes of this. Okay, I'm just gonna take it. I
want to use it. I really have a feeling like,
oh wow, you're taking me on a journey right now.
You really urious why you're drawing. Well, you know you're
(07:03):
drawing the same things. I mean, I think I am.
I'm taking some artistic freedoms with your image. I'm receiving. Okay,
tell me when Okay, this is cute, You're like, cue,
(07:26):
I think it was a demon from hell. Oh no, okay,
I'll show you yours if you show me, or I'll
show you mine if you show me yours. Okay, I'm ready,
I'm ready. Okay, you're ready at the same time. Three. Wow,
that is not what I received. A dick, A dick
(07:46):
with a rainbow on it and hair. I was gonna
drawn anus, okay, which, yeah, okay, yeah, But yours is
so cute. It's an elegant top sitting on a little
um cittee. I'm so much filthier than you. You would
(08:08):
think that that. No, I mean, I have I have album.
I have an album called as, I have an album
called vagina Um. You would think that that would be
my first go to. So like a dick rainbow, dick
rainbow with pubic hair and the common little hearts of love.
All that's sweet. Literally, the most risque thing is that
(08:34):
my elephant has eyelashes. Who have sexy? Okay, well I failed.
I guess I'm not psychic. You know, we're just we're
getting warmed up. We're really all I mean, we're like
on the right path. Yes, exactly. It just minds like
an elephant dick, right, a curved elephant rainbow. That elephant
(09:00):
added dick in the picture. It looked like this. It's
just in fact, yes, I think you're right. Okay, So
I don't actually know if I'm that psychic, but I
have had moments in my life where I thought I
was psychic. But I also have moments where people try
to psychically read me and I'm like stop, no, stop
it because it kind of freaks me out. I was wondering, like,
(09:23):
what your experience Have you ever been to a psychic?
Have you good experiences, bad experiences? Oh? I hate it.
I do not. I do not like anyone telling me
what to do. Ever, I don't like people telling me
what I should do with my life. And basically that's
what a psychic does, Like a tarot reader is like,
here's what you should do. I don't like it. I
(09:44):
don't like. I was in a nightclub once, which I
shouldn't have gotten my cards around in a nightclub. I
don't know what I was thinking for stuff. They seemed
very lovely and very nice, and they were like, let
me read your cards, baby, let me read your cards,
and um, and I was dating this guy and I
was like, I was kind of thinking it was just
not going to work out, and this this psychic person
(10:06):
was like, no, give him a chance, give him, give
him a chance. It's gonna be it's gonna work out.
It's gonna be great. Meanwhile, this guy went on to
like be completely really bad, really bad man. He was
lying about his job, and like he stole my passport.
He was a really bad so since then your passport.
(10:30):
He stole my passport and I had to go to
the UK the next day. Would you do? Would you
go to the the embassy? I went to the embassy. I
went down to where studio city or where wherever the
funk it is, I don't know. And I stood there
in line all day and I was a day late
to the UK, but I did make it. They printed
(10:52):
one up for me. Well, I think that psychic sounds
like a con person. It was not good. Maybe they
were in cahoots or something. I don't know, what do
you do if somebody's passport, I guess steal your identity.
I you know, I don't think it was that. I
think he just wanted to hurt. He just wanted to
hurt my feelings. See. To me, that's more of a
(11:15):
pain than the ass. I'd be like, this is why
I'm like really petitioned for gun control, because someone stole
my passport. I would just be like, I would wave
it around it exactly. Gun control now, yeah, because of me.
I don't trust myself. Girl, Yes, I'm too crazy for
guns to be legal exactly. Oh my god. I don't
(11:38):
remember the name of it. But I was like on
a roll, just I've just been like in your world
for the past twenty But you have a song about
aliens coming to earth. I do. What's it called? I do?
It's called aliens. Oh that's what I thought. Okay, so
it's available and I um no, it's it's a song
(12:01):
and it's called Aliens. And basically, my best friend Jeremy
and I we went into the woods and I mean
talk about you know, metaphysical and everything like that. We
we like listen to the river and listen to nature,
and we wrote music and we put it out on
this album called Amethyst Journey. Oh my god, And you're
not into hippie ship are you crazy? What am I
(12:22):
talking about? Hippie dippiest fucking person I've ever seen? Um
And one of the songs it's called Aliens, and it's
basically about like if there were aliens, which I mean
it's probably, it's very likely there are, but if there were,
they would probably take one quick look at like Earth
and humanity and they'd be like like keep walking, keep walking,
(12:48):
keep walking, Like I'm not going to touch that show
with a tem foot pole. No exactly. It's we're too
toxic and unstable and wild and bad. Like it's we
just as a humanity, we have a we have a
lot of work to do before the aliens are going
to like invite us. Saying well, I'm like, I kind
of have seen all this alien news coming out the
(13:10):
past year. I swear there has been so many different
people from all walks of life coming out and talking
about aliens. Like I was talking to Demi Lovada. She's
talking about how she can conjure up extraterrestrials and talk
to them like through meditation. Yes, and I know that's
(13:31):
Kelly Osborne also like, and I've had experiences in the desert.
So all different people that I've been talking to have
had these experiences. There are aliens coming, They're coming, it's happening.
There are spaceships. It's confirmed. Google it everybody out there.
I don't really have the sources in front of me,
so it sounds like bullshit, but just give it a Google.
(13:53):
Aliens are Okay, I'm gonna look this up because I
feel like on Twitter it's very like we're able to
you can post a clip. If you see something in
the sky happening, you can post it. There's no filter
of who can see it. And so I think there
is more and more, like, you know, stuff coming out
(14:14):
and just it's so much stuff because it was like
New York Times and Daily Mail and TMZ. So to me,
I'm like, it's slowly becoming mainstream culture to like have
it be just a part of the conversation. And I
know that you're Alaska Thunderfunck, You're an alien, right a
little yeah, yeah, no, definitely, Yeah. The character of Alaska.
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Thunder Funck is from the planet Glamtron. And this this character,
this idea of being an alien. I always describe it
as it was like beamed into my mind when I
first moved to l A and I was like, that's
just who she is. That's what she is. She's an alien. Yeah,
and I see that. I feel that from you. I
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feel like I'm an alien also. But my mom genuinely
believes she's an alien, like actually thinks she's part alien.
I know, and I believe her. If you met her,
you would believe her too. But she's like from Indiana
and it's just like the wildest person and she's like,
I'm part alien. I think there's a place called the
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turd dimension because she thinks that, like you're basically like
a how she described it as like you're like a
raisin in a lawn chair and you just and you
like you just kick back and you can like teleport.
That's what she said on her planet. That's so that's
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like a half of my DNA, A good half. You're
you're a half raisin in a lawn chair, which makes
it perfect sense to me. I love that. I did
Salvia once and I thought that I was a hungry,
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hungry hippo rainbow. I thought I was a rainbow swirl
and I woke up from my life and my life
was just a dream. But I was actually a rainbow swirl,
hungry hungry hippo and we were all in a row
in a rainbow. Oh my god, the marbles eating the marbles,
eating the marbles that I was that See, you are psychic.
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You knew it. I love that game, Hungry Hungry Hippos.
It's the first time I've thought about it since I
was about seven. It's a high intensity, action packed game.
It's a wild I love it. Fuck video games. These kids,
the hungry hippos, and let's see what happens these babies
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being brought up on iPads. No, we had actual hippos
that eight metal marbles there were rainbow colored and you
had to fight for them like your life depended on it,
aggressively exactly. That's where I got my drive from Hungry
motherfucking hip Hop. I'm so happy you brought that up.
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I'm gonna get I'm going to get that again. Justn't
gonna try it again. I I think you should. It's
not a drug. No, it's a game. It's a fierce game.
It's a fierce game. And like Twister, I remember when
you had to like play games and move a part
of your body right exactly. It's kind of risque. I mean,
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it's like it's like foot. Did you ever have sexy Twister?
See no, see no, not no, not I not I,
but I understand that some would. That's like the I
thought it was the main vehicle for Twister is to
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like play strip Twister and you're like, my foot's on
your foot and then you rub your boob on someone's
arm and like they get like kind of a boner
and you're really excited about it. It lends itself to
eroticism very easily. I can. It's not a far leap
left foot. It's kinky, guys. It is the old games
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were really kinky and fun and ferocious. It really makes sense.
I don't know what this has to do with I
don't know what this has to do with the supernatural,
but I'm happy we touched on it. How was your
experience on drag Race? And seemed amazing? It was good.
I mean it's a horrible, terrifying, like um ghastly experience
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to be on Drag Race. But that being said, it
completely changes your life as a drag queen. It's the
it's the biggest show in the world. It changed so
many people's lives. It's changing culture. But like being in
there and being on the show is horror, is a
horrifying anxiety experience. So the first time I went, I
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was like, there's no way I'm gonna win. I'm going
home every day I was. I was convinced I was
going home every day, and I didn't. I stayed till
the end. So I was just really grateful to be there.
Oh my god, it was so much because I was
a I was a guest judge on a couple of
seasons back, and it just seemed so terrifying. Like I
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know that feeling because I'll be on stage at like
a thing and I'll be like, I'm terrified, and I
felt so Honestly, I can't walk in high heels, so
to see like dead drops in heels, I was just like,
I'm the worst woman in the world. I have to
wear like flat boots because I'm like Nashville hill By,
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Like I'm watching Drag Race, I'm like, girl, put your
heels on I'm barefoot. I love that. I want to
do a song called flats because because heels are bad
for you. They're like smoking cigarettes, Like they're really just
bad for your health. They're bad for your skeleton. They're
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hard to walk in. Like I'm like, if I'm in flats,
I can fucking hit the choreography. I can dance. If
you put me in heels, I'm like, it is it
is a toss up whether I'm gonna be standing. I
can stand there kind of Oh. I like tore my
knee because I was in like two inch heels. This
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is sad. This is this, this game I hate a
dangerous game and I failed. I lost the game the
heels one, so I just like I gave up. But
I will say when I watched Drag Race, I'm like,
fucking get your ship together, Kesha, like get it together,
like you're one of those people. I was watching you
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and I was like, God, damn it, I really need
to get it together. Your coreo your song so good. Well,
thank God, you know, I mean, thank God for camera editing. Seriously,
it's a blessing. Do you know that one of your
songs is one of the first songs I did in
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my early drag career, know which one? Tell me? Have
you heard of the show? Have you heard of the
children's show The Big Comfy Couch? Okay, one person here
who's very excitedly going like this, but I don't, but
please tell us, tell us what it is. Go okay,
So The Big Comfy Couches is it a show about
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a big comfy couch. And it's a girl named Luna
and Molly a clown in her dolly, So she's like
a clown girl. And incidentally, she was the girl who
did the voice of Jubilee on the X Men cartoon.
That's my side, okay. So this clown girl every episode
would do this thing where she would lay down on
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a giant clock carpet, okay, and with her arms and
legs she would go around the clock. Feeling, I know
where this is going. So I did the sock ticktok
and I dressed him like Lunette the clown, and I
did the legs going around a clock thing. Oh my god,
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where do I find this? There's Luckily cameras were not
proliferated at that so there, you know, you never know,
though I don't know. Maybe there's footage of it somewhere,
but it was one of the very earliest numbers I
did at the Blue Moon in Pittsburgh. The Blue Moon,
Oh my god. So that's like where you started out.
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It's where I like learned how to be a drag queen,
I really think. So in a dive bar with it,
you know, a really rough sound system, and we were
just sucking around and I learned how to fucking be
a drag queen there. So the first time you ever
did drag, well, I remember the first time I went
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out in drag. Yes, there's always been Oh, let me
dress up, let me put it, let me do rocky horror,
you know for Halloween. That doesn't count. The first time
you do drag is when you get up in it
and you go out to a gay bar and you
just go for fun. That's what we did. So my
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best friend Elena and I we were like, okay, let's
do it. I had this blonde wig, probably from a
Halloween collection, and I was like, it's not big enough.
I need you to make it bigger. So Elena teas
the funk out of it and made it bigger, and
I was like, I don't have any clothes, so I
made a tube top and a miniskirt out of black
garbage bag. Yes, love that. I put on all this
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cover girl mascara and makeup, smoky eye, and we went
out to the to the bar and I was like,
this is it, this is my coming out. And then
there were like five people. It was like a Tuesday night.
It was like no one was out, no one saw us,
but we did it. And basically I've basically been wearing
big teath, fucking blonde hair, and black garbage bags ever since.
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Oh my god, well same garbage bag. Okay. The first
time I ever went to the v M as I
believe because of the amazing everyone was calling me like
a trash queen and I was like, thank you, so
let me make my dress out of garbage bags. I
remember it was like a whole thing. People thought it
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was so shocking and I was like, you're calling me trashy,
that's so iconic. That's trash and the treasure right there,
which is the whole philosophy. Because I saw in your
special you had like this whole trash um. I don't
know what it was a you looked like the flying
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nun but glory hole kind of. Yeah. I don't know
what you would call that thing, but it's amazing and
it is like a giant those trash right, she was
trash bags, uh, and we it was. It was sort
of a reference to Lady Gaga did this art pop
performance where she started out with just her hole in
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a white board and we were like, we're going to
steal that, but make a garbage and that is how
you make art. That is art, that is pop. Holle Lou.
It's so true, like even watching you on drag Race,
you would like that a greenish bluish trash back dress.
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It's so beautiful. I feel like the textures gorgeous. It's
all in perspective like you would have never known that sarbage.
I think so too. And it never bio degrades, so
you're always going to have the gar mat like you'll
all you'll have forever. It's non recyclable. Yeah, it's killing
the earth, but it's gorgeous. But it's not killing the
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earth if it's in my closet and I say, I
tell you, I save every single plastic tablecloth that I use.
I keep them for years. I like, I I still
I have them all. I keep them because I don't.
I don't want to, you know, I don't want to
add to the c spire C. No, I'll send you
in my trash Okay, I'll send you all my trash bags.
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I have so much. I have so many clothes. I'm
actually going through all the clothes from all the tours
and I'm like, what do I do with all of this?
It's really hard. I mean, I'm you should save stuff
for like like the museum, like the like archival, have
some some things like that. But then the in Betweens,
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you're you know, RuPaul has an entire apartment just for
her clothes. That's exactly what I mean. You need that,
I need that. I kind of you know what. My
entire home is just a closet. It really, it takes over.
I have like six bedrooms full of clothing. Hey work.
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I don't know if that's work or if that's like
hoarding between like hoarding trash work hord w. Yeah. I
like a lot of my early outfits came from like goodwill,
and then I sewed myself. Did you make a lot
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of your outfits yourself? Do you make your absolutely? I mean,
thank god, I have really amazing talented friends who know
how to like design some amazing as clothes, So I'm
grateful for that. But I mean a lot of like
this I found. I found this at Goodwill and then
I cut it. I cut it open so that it
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would fit me, and then I tied the I tied
the draw string around my around my neck. That's amazing.
I found this in my closet I didn't even know
was there. And then there's pieces of chandelier that have
been stuck to it, and so then I just tied
some chandelier into my cleavage. I love I love you amazing.
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We should totally play in each other's closets. I think
it's really really fun. Yes, please, I'm so down. Well,
I have a lot of closets, six rooms, six rooms
full of it's not just the closets, the room, the
rooms of shoes. It's a problem. Um, let me talk
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about some more creepy things. So where you're from, where
you started doing drag, your origin place is super fucking
haunted we Erie, Pennsylvania. I see. I mean it's it's
named Erie. I would hope that it had some spooky ship.
It's really scary. I started like looking it up. Do
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you know about how creepy the place you're from is.
I don't know. Tell me there's like, okay, there's an
ax murderer. That grass won't grow on the side of
the street because he murdered some people. I'm like looking
at it right now. Okay. For the past sixty years,
people have told the story of a couple who sees
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an ax wielding ghost off Thomas Road. Do you know
about Thomas Road? I don't know. You love Thomas You
live on Thomas Road and the mom is on Thomas
Road right now? Yes, okay, let's save her because the
farmer wielding the axe supposedly has haunted the woods since
hacking his wife entered lover to death nearby. I love that.
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Oh my gosh, Thomas Road. There's like five roads in eerie.
I don't well, don't go there because apparently they say
on one side of the road the grass won't grow
and on the other side it does. That kind of
sounds like vagina. You know, the grass on the grows
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on one side. Don't ask. I don't know. I can't
tell you why. Okay, so maybe my pussies OneD um.
When you walk through that area in the middle of
the day, birds will be chirping on one side of
the road and not the other where the old farmhouse
used to be. That is wild. I need to go
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to Thomas Road, and I need to go where the
grass don't grow. There's a song whether grass don't grows,
don't grow. Chop it up, chop it up, chopper up,
chopper up. Oh my god, that's dark. Well these are
these are? Yeah? That is dark? Okay. Hotel it deals
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in the Maccabre hotel. Cannot Yeah, we've been there, Okay,
I mean yeah, we used to go there as kids
to Kanye. Is it a like it's a hotel? Would
you sneak in the point? I don't know if we
went to the hotel. That's really rich for us. We
were going to the hotel, but we would go over
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like the day we'd go to like Kanye and like
Kanye Lake and Kanyea Park and like, Okay, so I've
been near there. Why what happened? Okay? So they're in
Lightning struck the roof of the hotel and a horrible
fire broke out as a result. Elizabeth, a young bride
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on her honeymoon, was burned to death. Oh my gosh.
She haunts the halls of the hotel at night. Damn,
I love this ship. That's a rough honeymoon. Not suck
like it's one thing. If like you get too drunk
and you can't fuck, like that's a bad honeymoon. But
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like literally lightning fire burning, eternal hunting of the hotel,
that's worse. I mean, it's kind of epic. Though she's memorable.
She makes an impression. Yeah, we're talking about her honey
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to this day. I want to go there. Alright, you
should chake it out. Let's go. Okay, the Cathedral of
Saint Paul. Okay, have you been there? Do you go
to church? Not like that? Not like that as much
as I can. I used to go to the Catholic
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Like we would go to a Catholic service on like Christmas,
like a Christmas service or whatever, and they are so
shady because they would be like, if you're Catholic, you
can come up and have the cookie and the and
the wine. Yeah, And I was a little kid, and
I was like, we're not Catholic and I wasn't allowed
to have the fucking juice and the fucking cookie after
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this long ass service. Well, I was pissed. Okay, to me,
the eating the body and blood of Christ, like that's cannibalism.
The girl, I know, the pearl clutching at like two
men can't get married. Now, let's go eat Jesus's body
and drink is blood. Like, give the kids the wine.
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I remember being a little kid being like eating the
cookie and drinking wine at like nine years old, almost
being like, oh, I'm eating Jesus and drinking his blood.
Let's go. But two gays can't hold hands Heaven, they
can't do it. That's that's tragic, and it's real. It's
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that's sad because it's so real. It's wild. So at
the Cathedral of St. Paul, supposed to be haunted by
the ghost of a little girl, Katie, who died in
a car crash near the church, church visitors report hearing
the jovial laugh of a little girl and sounds of
heavy objects moving around the empty rooms. Oh this is cute.
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Paranormal investigators reported the church organ playing by itself during
an investigation. I love that. Well, you know, the good
thing about that is Katie's having a good time. The
laughter is jovial, she's playing the piano. She probably gets
to drink the wine does exactly all you can eat wafers.
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I mean, Katie is at least having a sickning time
in the after moving heavy objects. All you can drink
Blood of Jesus, go off, Katie, Katie Honey, Katie Honey.
She's having a good time. But I just had no
idea that that's where you're from is one of the
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most haunted places in the United States. I had no
idea either. See we didn't. I have no idea. Thank
you for educating me. I mean, I appreciate you, are
so welcome. I learned from the internet, but I was shocked.
I didn't know. But I just didn't know. Maybe like
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coming up in the club scene, you ever saw creepy ship?
Because I find clubs to be pretty creepy. There's I've
had some weird experiences in the back of dirty clubs well,
because you never know what has gone down, and it's
always dark and like and when you see the club
in the daytime, it's like a completely it is very
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like creepy and kind of eerie and kind of it's
kind of dark and sketchy, and you're like, why would
I go in there? And then nightfalls and all of
a sudden, you're like, I want to go in there totally.
You put a wing on and like some lashes, and
all of a sudden is creepy building that you would
avoid at all costs. Then you're like, get me in there.
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I gotta wait in line just together. You don't seem
like the type that would wait in line to get
into a club. I mean that as a compliment. You know,
I used to listen. Okay, no, I still have. I'm
still very very scared to like skip the line, even
if I'm like I know the person running the door
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and I know that because I have an immense fear
of being rejected at doors. And then once you walk
past everyone who's waiting in line, and you are you
just oh, I'm I don't wait in line, and then
they tell you, now, no, that walk back is the
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most humbling have a stating walk that you can it's
not even worth it. So I'm like, I'll just wait
in line and make friends with the people in line
at that point because I can't take that rejection shame, devastation.
You know what that happened to me. I went out
for the first time in like however long this quarantine
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has been going on. I went to go see my
friend do comedy, and I was like, what do I do?
I can't do the shame walk. So I just stood
in the middle of a parking lot and just waved
my face around. It's like it's me and nobody, nobody,
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like it was very odd in hindsight, that's a weird move.
Like just couldn't because it's like, I'm not going up
to the front because if someone's like, go go to
the line like that walk of shame, that's a way.
That's the most shameful walk I think there is. It
really is like I don't remember, oh it is. It
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isn't want to remember. Mandy Moore the only the only
time I threw around the do you know Who the
fun I Am? Is? Way before Drag Race, when literally
no one would know who the funk I Am. But
that's what I learned. It doesn't work. It just doesn't
work no matter who you are. I mean, it just
does that. Oh you know, how to sneak in places?
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I used to be really good at this. I would
walk with conviction through the back door and be on
the phone, but not be on the phone, and I
would just be like I can't. I don't know what
to tell you. The catering is just and I would
just walk in. I've snuck into so many shows like
huh see, it's it's an acting challenge really because it's
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the conviction. Yeah, and I wouldn't even want to go
wherever I'm going. I just wanted to see if I
could get in, and then I'd be like, they'd be like,
I don't even want to be I'm want to see
if I can get in, Like I didn't Prince's house work,
you know what the catering. Listen, I am not paying
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that price for crab puffs. I'm sorry, excuse me, No,
it works, It works. Try it. That's how my excuse
to steal fabric from Joann Fabrics. She would she would
get it cut at the fabric cutting station, get a
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whole bunch of fabric cut, and then put it on
as a scarf and then get on her phone and
be like, yeah, they didn't have it. I know, I
looked everywhere, they just didn't have it and walk out
of the door. It's kind of ingenious. It works. It
really works. People steal before cell phones. That's what I
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wanted that I don't know I should ask my mom.
She's the one that taught me. But I've learned not
to steal anymore. Anyone listening. Don't steal things? Yeah, no,
unless I mean there's caveats to most rules, but I
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think it's a good rule. Yeah, I mean if I mean,
if it's a corporation who cares. Yeah, I mean like
if it's Yeah, if they're terrible to their employees, and
like you need chaps tick just like steal, don't see
you you're gonna have so you may be possessed by
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the little girl who fell down the stairs and earing
send something. You know what. I am that little girl.
Don't listen to her. I am that little girl. I
am moved some heavy objects tonight. Okay, favorite favorite scary movie? Oh,
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oh my gosh. I'm very partial to the Halloween series,
like the like the First Halloween, Like Jamie Lee Curtis
is iconic, and it's it was just she's such a
badass and it's like it was really cool. I love
Did you see the newer one? How do you feel
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about the newer one? Um? Did I see it? Like
the and she was in it? Yes, I liked it.
She was like a survivalist and she's like, you don't
know what I've been through. Yes, And then they didn't,
and then she like saved the day she did. She
had to say she had a panic room. Yeah she did.
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I like her. I do too, Okay, So that's I love.
The Halloween ones are good. My favorites the Shining. Have
you seen the Shining? Oh, the Shining School. I mean
talk about a haunted, scary building that I love it.
The place So when I was little, my mom took
us to the hotel that the Shining was based on
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when I was like six years old. Monster an alien,
but it's scared. I think that's like why I'm sitting
here today talking to you about it is because like
it started five years old. She was like, took us
on tours of scary places yours. It's also traumatizing. It's
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like this is where the axe murderer came through the door.
She loves that ship. This is where the haunted Twins
road tricycle. Like I've it's been imprinted into my life
now because that's like what I grew up doing is
going to haunted places and like being obsessed with haunted things,
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playing shows and haunted places. Have you ever been to
the rave in Milwaukee? You it to sh other the rave? Yeah,
is that what it's called. There's like one place in
Milwaukee that's where Jeffrey Dahmer used to find his victims.
It's like my favorite place. Oh my god, that's terrifying.
I don't think I've played it, but now I want to. Okay, Well,
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maybe if you're open to it, one day I can
take you somewhere scary and scared the ship out of you.
I feel like, please do and a rave. Oh my god,
after the year we've had, we deserve it, like a
terrifying rape, tear terror rave. That's a good idea. I
should be on the list of things to do as
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soon as we're out of this shift. Um. Let's see,
I'm jogging grocery store, tear dining indoors terror rave. That's
such a good idea. I am writing it down, Francis,
write it down. Um. Do you feel like you're like
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drag community is like a coven of witches? Or is
that just me projecting um my witchiness and love and witches?
I mean no, I completely believe it. I completely believe it,
and I do believe in that energy that comes around
when you get together with your you know, close sisters
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and it's like the three of you or the four
of you there, it really should happens. That's real. The
craft is real. The craft my girls that come over
to my house that are my like coven, we're crazy bitches,
Like we are crazy, and like between all of us
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we get ship done, like in a way that I
really feel like there's just a power when we all
start like opulating at the same time. It's very weird.
That's real ship. I mean, that's nature, and that like
psychic ship is natural. Like that is real. That's real
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as well. I think the supernatural things are actually just
really natural. We're just really kind of far away from
the natural world. We're cut off from them. We've been
told that they're false for so many years, but like
they make themselves known. And the energy, like you're talking
about the energy of like you and your closest people,
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the people you trust and want to build up and
want to build you up, and like just wanting to
see each other be successful is like such a magical
feeling to have a group like that. It definitely is,
And I just I don't know, I just wanted to
know if like that's how you and your drag sisters
are like, or do you guys just want to kill
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each other? I don't know. I mean that's the thing,
is like drag queens like on TV, they want us
to know. They want us to fight and scream and
like hit one another and getting fights and untucked, which
we do because we're also really good at making television,
but we also are like when it's the real life,
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it's like something about going through life and doing drag
and being a drag queen is like you're bonded to
even even queens. I don't know. If I show up
to a city and I'm feeling jet lagged and whatever,
as soon as I get in the dressing room, I'm like, Oh,
this is home. These are my sisters, this is home.
This is that. That's what it seems like. That's always
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what I would have imagined it would feel like, because
it's kind of a little bit how it is like
being a woman in pop music. Like yeah, like once
you finally like are around each other, then you're like,
oh my god, I love your music, and then you
speek out and it's great and then but like for
the drama of it all. I feel like pitting people
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against each other is better for business. It is. Yes,
it's better for business. It sells papers, um, and it
keeps us from getting together and doing some metaphysical cosmic shit. Yes,
so it keeps us controllable to pit us against one another.
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It's You're absolutely right. I totally agree. It distracts us
from the power we could harness if we just focused
on building each other up. Let's see. I love you okay, um,
Oh my god, Okay, I'm gonna sunk up the name,
(47:43):
so I'm gonna let you say it. But your comedy special.
Uh well, okay. I made the title of it up
on stage at the comedy Special, so I think it's
something like. I think it's Alaska thunder Fox Extra Special
Comedy Special. Yes, that is it, and it's really really funny.
Everyone should go check it out. Where can they find it?
(48:06):
You can find it on Apple tv um. If you're
in Canada, you can find it on out tv um.
If you're in the UK, you can find it on
Fruit f R O O T, or you can look
on the link in my bio on Instagram. If you
can't find it, boom Okay, what's your Instagram? Shamelessly promote
go um on Instagram. I'm at the only Alaska five
(48:30):
thousand and um. My website is Alaska Thunderfunk dot com.
Oh my god, I don't even have Kesha dot com.
I don't know who does. Don't know. You need to
find out who does. Francis, we need a terror rave
(48:51):
of happening, and I need my website name. You need
to walk into their house sternly on the phone from
the back door, like, do you know that my mom's
an alien? Give me my fucking website. I love your music.
I really do like listening to it, but getting ready
(49:13):
today was so much fun, like putting on like makeup
and bedazzles and you know this is not a wig,
Like I related to all the songs. Thank you. It's
really good for that. It's good for working out, and
it's good for like getting ready and drag. Definitely, I'm
like just starting your day on a happy note. If
(49:35):
anybody is like, fuck this quarantine, I hate it, you
should definitely put on Alaska thunder Fox music and you
will be in such a better mood and your makeup
look amazing and your hair. But I didn't do this.
That was somebody else that is very talented. But okay,
(49:57):
this is fun. Would you like to start because conspiracy
theory right now? Yeah? Um, yes I would. Um. I mean,
I'm not starting it, but I do want to perpetuate it.
Um And it's that. It's that Taylor Swift is Xena LaVey,
the daughter of Anton LaVey of the Church of um
(50:20):
Um Satan. Yes, I mean, it's just true. It's not
it's not really a conspiracy or a theory. It's just
the truth so propagated everywhere. I'm friends with Taylor's I
am not going to touch it, but I'm not going
to edit it out. Said, well, she will either love
(50:43):
or hate that. Look at pictures of them next to
each other. I'm telling you they look No, that's where
that's where this comes from. They look exactly alike. She
looks like Xena lave A. Well, I think that's a
really good place to end on. Like that's I don't know,
it's going to get me better than that answer you
You're like, this interview is over, Like, I think I
(51:05):
think that's a micro trop moment. Check out Alaska Thunder
Fox Comedy Special Comedy special. It's so funny and you're amazing.
You're super inspirational. Thank you so for you. Thank you,
it's so much fun to talk like shoot the show
with you today, you too, Thanks for having me course,
(51:29):
hopefully I'll see you soon. Yeah. Absolutely, keep on
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