"Gonna Have To Listen To That One" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Look man, oh I see you? Why why and look
over there? How is that culture? Yes? Goodness, sang Dons falling. Wow,
I feel truly unmuzzled and I feel like a lightness. Deviously,

(00:21):
it feels very good to be back, to be back.
So we're just gonna get down to brass tacks. We've
already recorded a couple episodes and they're good, and they're
good at our new home here at I heart. I mean,
you know where you love her. This is where we're
at ended, and honestly, we're so happy. Everyone here is
the best, the best. Engineer Doug is in there, slaying it.

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Engineer Doug is slaying it. Head of content Hans, Yes,
Head of content Hans. Producer Anna, absolutely incredible. Executive producer.
I'm so sorry, and that that's the thing is actually
it's real culture number ten, executive producer, Anna. I mean
that was disrespect full of me, very disrespectful. I just
love the team here so much. The snacks and the

(01:05):
stalked the house down boots. Oh yeah, and there's string cheese.
String cheese, which is fatal for me. Actually not because
I have anything against that. I just been once I
started can't stop it's like that thing you pop, like
the pringles exactly like you know for me, you know
what the thing is for me? The baby bells, those
little cheese. They're freakishly addictive, so addictive, and they they

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really revisit me at the most, at my most vulnerable times.
I had no idea what they even were until I
came to l A and started working in writer's rooms,
and they're like a fixture there, these baby bells and
they pop off and they pop off, and you look
at them and you're like, what's this wax? What is
this cheese? I don't know. And then once you figure

(01:48):
it out, honey, it's like it's like riding a bike.
It's likece you figure it out, you're doing it. That's
actually a culture number nineteen. Yeah, it's like riding a bike.
Once you figure it out, you're okay. We would we
should bring everyone up to speed, all the readers to
speed on our new home. So yeah, I mean, we
weren't kidding when we told you we weren't sure where
we were going to land after our last episode. It

(02:11):
took a lot of thought to disfigure out where our
new home was going to be. But we're happy. And
we're recording in Los Angeles right now. So we've answered
the question that you picked two that we floated to everyone.
We decided that it is best for my sister Bowen
and I to be in the same city looking at
each other in the damn eyes. We don't want to
be trifling with this across the country. Wait, what did

(02:32):
you say it again? Non? So? Yeah, we lost, we lost, Matt.
We can make the commitment to fly to each other. Yes,
like you have made the commitment this time, and I
will come to you next month and you will do
it in kind. And we backlog Mother and we backlock Mother.
But that's not to say it won't always be topical. Yeah. No,
I think this episode, this is our our fun little

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return reunion. Um, we're gonna we're gonna talk talk about
some culture that we've messed. We basically have been having
a pain in our stomach's, hearts and brains because we
haven't been able to talk about all the cults that's
been happening. And I just want to say one one
thing before we um begin the episode. I have to
say something. I'm very angry at some listeners the readers

(03:16):
because they have been saying we don't believe Matt and
Bonon that they're going to come back. And this was
a betrayal because I have done nothing but be supportive.
I have done nothing but be supportive the readers, and
for you to get in my d m s and
get into my instagrams and say Bowen won't respond to me,
but I don't believe. Well, they threw you under the bus.
Damn what did they say? Damn they said? Damn they said,

(03:38):
they said, well, Bowen did not respond to my d M.
So I'm asking you, by the way, thank you for
letting me know, I'm officially the second choice. And they
said that's not it's actually really rude. And I'm and
I'm angry at the readers, and we're and you're angry,
and I'm angry at them and furious, I would say,
I'm angry and the addition furious, and here I am,

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and I say to them, you know what, I hope
it's okay that I'm back, that you were wrong. This
is the thing. It's meaningful when you make the decision
to believe podcasters absolutely for you too, not not give
us the benefit of the d disgusting. Well, guess what,

(04:19):
I'm actually vitamin D deficient and I found that out
and it was really painful. It was really painful to
find that out. So then what's what's the what's the
what's the course of action for you to take a
huge pill in the morning. And I've also gone non prep.
So that's two pills, yes, dask O VI four prep

(04:41):
and I have to swallow two large pills. And your criticism.
I am having a very difficult time and I haven't
been able to talk about culture. I see you genuinely hurt.
I see I'm genuinely hurting. But this is the thing
we will never do wrong by the reader. Oh truly,
this is this is our life. This is our life.

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Our life is to connect with you the cultures that
I have missed this so much. It's really got to say.
So anyway, I'm not actually mad. We're not actually mad.
And we're doing this episode especially for everyone. We're going
to do a culture catch up, culture catch up, culture
catch up. I mean, if you want to know our
thoughts on on on the things that we've missed in
the last nine ten weeks. Um, A lot has happened.

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A lot has actually happened. It's actually been an incredible
time for culture in both negative and positive ways. Of course,
the world continues to absolutely burn, but there's been some
real moments of coach that have shown through, that have
cut through the terror. Yeah. I mean there's and I
have some stuff to say about some of the terror
going on, some of the fear that's being you know, spread.

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It's great to know that you have something to say.
I have something to say about. I think we look
to you, everyone looks to me. So I think that
if we're going to start this culture catch up, yeah,
I I would personally move that we just dive into
one topic head on. Okay. I have a connection to
and you have a connection to Taylor Taylor. Her name

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is Taylor Swift, Taylor Swift, and she actually she brush
back onto the scene with a Netflix documentary. It's called
Miss Americana. Miss Americana, with the accompanying single Only the Young,
Only the Young, And I just want to throw it
to Bowen. Yes, your review of Miss Americana, how did
you feel? What were you what were you thinking? You know,
it's really stuck with me. An effective, effective documentary, I

(06:32):
would say, very specific, Yeah, very specific window into like
her life in a way that feels intentional, like you
could tell that she I thought back to that conversation
that she has with her dad and her mom's it's
Taylor and her mom sitting next to each other and
they're trying to convince Taylor's father Um that she should

(06:52):
post this um endorsement endorse Well, were you know Um
of the Tennessee of it all? The Senate race, the
Senate race, it all very moving, very effective. But then
it's like, oh, but then they know that there's cameras
in front of them, and do you know what I mean?
And we can talk about this, and I'm sure you
you have something to say about that, but it's like
it's I am holding too sort of multitudinous thoughts in

(07:13):
my head where it's like I enjoyed it. I gave
a nice glimpse into her process and and and sort
of her struggles, and she has a very particular set
of struggles. But then it's also like I also see it.
It's like a very very sort of cleverly timed pr
move as well. Yeah, I mean every single thing she
does I always think of as being calculated, but also

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I act think I think it's fine and that's like
part of being a huge brand because of course you're
going to calculate your moves. Of course the thing, but
just fine, and like you have to calculate your moves
when you when everything that you do is scrutinize. And
I also thought to myself throughout the documentary watching it,
I'm like, well, she's on camera's on camera. I'm like, yeah,
she knows. She's like she knows. It's like, of course
she's gonna know. She's on camera. And every time I

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reminded myself, like, well, you know, don't believe this all
the way because you know, she's a documentary and she's
putting it out and it's part of her brand. I'm
like yeah, blah blah blah. It's like, also, you have
to give her she is also a human being and
in addition to being a brand. I really thought it
made a lot of sense to me that she had
sort of a light. It made a lot of sense
to me that she felt like frozen in time by

(08:17):
the Kanye That must have been freakish. And also constant
reminders about what happened with the Dixie Chicks when they
made a political statement. Now, of course you want to
think of yourself that if you ever get in a
position of power and you're able to make a political statement,
that you will do the right thing. But culturally and
you know, financially, she's in an extremely different situation, and

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so she had seen it really not work out for
someone where it was a similar situation, and so I
thought that it really tracked narratively to see she was
frozen in time by the Kanye thing that freaked the
funk out and she could never get a real control on,
like a good narrative now because to this day it's
like this, because the ground keeps shifting underneath her and

(09:01):
it's still a Kanye tailor visual tailor thing to this day,
which is nuts. She never asked for it until she
did likely um yeah, yeah, yeah. But I thought that
in conjunction with the trial being the light bulb moment
for her, I really understood that because it's not it
wasn't about it wasn't even really about her assault that

(09:21):
made her say I have to speak up. It was
the specifically the tru where they had photographic evidence of
her being assaulted, and witnesses and still people in this courtroom,
men in this courtroom were like, well, why didn't you
say anything at the time, or was it really a groping, etcetera, etcetera.
And I bought all of it. I bought all of it,
and truly, like, of course, it was a light bulb

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moment for the trial to be that sort of catalyst,
because for her to be like, oh, I'm famous and
I have evidence and all these things going for me,
but this is still a shitty fucking right, And it's
got to be incredibly enlightening in like a very dark
way to know that you could be one, literally one
of the most famous people in the world and have

(10:02):
all the evidence you need and they're still going to
be like the raised eyebrow at you. That's had to
be very very enlightening. And I mean study and I
watched it together, and the thing that we were both
struck by was at the end, towards the end, she goes,
you know, I'm I'm in my thirties now, and there's
only so much more time that the world will allow
me to be success success, which is and the way

(10:23):
she she made a face about it like and I
know I might, and you know, it's right, really crazy,
and also you have to you have to think like
she probably also knew that when she was weighing whether
or not to speak out about her political beliefs, because
it's like she is a certain kind of artist, and
you know what's so different when you say anything and
you're a woman, So definitely all that, and I was

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really on her side personally now now professionally with the
kind of music she's making, like, for example, this song
Only the Young. Another thing I picked up on in
this documentary is I think she needs to shake up
her producers because I think she's got yes people. She's
got yes people she the you know, the that are
hurting her, you think yes, because I think Only the

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Young needed a lyrics pass bad, because I mean, if
the documentary is to be believed, she just kind of
notes apps that for about ten minutes and was like, Okay,
I've got it. Only the Young can Run. Like there's
a moment and where she's writing it, and she said
only the Young can Run and she makes a face
like I'm sort of behind this, and her producer you
hear him go yeah, and it's like no, dude, Like

(11:29):
that's that doesn't really make sense. Can run? I mean,
it's it's a call to action like people running for office.
Maybe I just think, like because there's weird, like like
there's not clarity about it. It could have just used
another lyrics pass or like looked at the song one
more time, because I think the song is like songs
great great, just lyrically it's like this is like kind

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of weird and could have used another past likewise the
song me wait. But interestingly though, and like other people
have observed this in the writing of it, it sounds
like a very compelling song, and that's another part of it.
I was like, I can see why I love watching
her process. It's incredible because she's actually doing yes, you

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know what I mean, Like you're actually watching her work
and it actually like has reminded me of when I've
seen this happen or have have done it. Like I'm like, yes,
she is so uniquely good at this, and I buy
this percent and love watching her process. And I really
like her bts when she like notes Apple or when
she voice records herself and deluxe albums. I love that ship.

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So my thing was the videos during reputation, when she
put out videos of her like trying to crack the
chord progressions and the melanies and the lyrics too gorgeous.
It's like over like the course of like ten weeks,
she's recording herself in front of a keyboard at a piano,
being like and then she's just like, it's so interesting.
So I was watching her writing me and you see

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them get excited and they're like, it's a hit. It's
a hit, we know it. And then I'm like, but
what did happen? Because it's between Maybe it was like
an imaging thing. Maybe it was the fact that it
was the first thing we heard something about it, and
maybe it was just did too much, but like something
about it, like it's just not one of her, It's
not Cannon for her, for not Cannon. It's it felt

(13:17):
like an anomaly. Um. Yeah, but you and I talked
checked in on Lover the other day. You're still listening
to it, listening to it. I'm listening to Cruel Summer
basically every day. I mean, for me, I would have
and this guy get us into another topic. I would
have voted for Lover for Song of the Year just
because for the Grammys, which it didn't win. It was
a bad Guy by Billie Eilish along with everything else.

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Because I feel like when you're giving an Awards song
of the Year, that should mean like you're introducing a
beautiful new song that can be performed by many people
to the cannon and Billie Eilish Bad Guy is like,
sure it was an important record of the year, like
it says two like doubt, yes, but in terms of

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like song of the year, in terms of like lyrical
construction and like like actually being a song, I don't know.
And I think that Lover is like such a gorgeous
In Billy's defense, I feel like there was other There
are other songs on UM on that album that are
beautiful works of songwriting. Not incredible, yes, incredible. And she

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did sweep the damn Grammys. She swept. She is She
is an icon. She is a nicon. She is the moment.
She is the moment. Darling, um are we? Are we?
Anything else you want to say about Miss American? Miss
Americana was probably one of the better pop star documentaries. Sure,
I think I'd rank it above two is a little
a little scattered. It's a little scattered and like it

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was fascinating to watch, like her physical struggles, but then
I could sort of do without the like her smoking
a cigarette talking about Madonna. You know what I mean? Like,
I'm like, okay, okay, Stephanie Germanada. It is that definitely
Germanano was in some ways a little more aware that
the camera was in front of her him right right,
So I don't know. Um, oh, well we've got to

(15:07):
we got a choosing adventure to be talking about Gaga.
Do we talk about Grammys? Well, it looks like we
can talk about what we're here. We're here at Gaga.
We're feeling excited, We're very excited for New Gaga. Stupid
Love is you know, I love very good and miss
Josh Sharpen Aaron Jackson saying stupid love and in a fun,
little like broken down version for all people to open

(15:31):
with that. For the Valentine's Day show perfect I would
love So fun, they dressed up as cupids and they
sang stupid Love and live band like guitar drums sounds
so good comes up. But musically You're like, oh, yes,
this is a very well constructed So I'm excited. I'm
really pumped. I want her to be dancing again. I
want her to absolutely stomp the yard. I want I

(15:52):
want her to sort of create an army of gaze. Again,
we've been talking about this insane to watch, not in
terms of like it's insane that Gaga is doing this
because it's like crack pop Gaga what we've always expected,
but it's fascinating to see her post Star is Born
kind of dig her heels deeper into like the weird,

(16:13):
the weirdness that Gaga is to revisit like Gaga being
Gaga in a post Star is Born world where she
was like tearfully accepting awards all season like, and we
saw this other side to her. It's just so funny
because you're like, oh, you're truly nuts. No, But I
don't think it's that she's nuts. It's that it just
reinforces this whole her whole sort of like her whole

(16:34):
organizing principle around her fame, which is to perform performed,
and her doing the award circuit last year was her
performing like oh my god, I can't believe I want
like she Do you think that's true? Yes, I absolutely
think that's true. Her just performing the funk out of
that trope of like a famous person. She's just she's trying,

(16:56):
She's putting on different fame drag. That's all she's been
doing her whole career. That's a fucking amazing take. I
think that that's because even like the classic screen couple
of it all, Yes, that's that's exactly what it is.
Her and Bradley like this man like every speech was
her being like and Bradley you believe you know, and
then the people think it's a hundred people. It's like,
it's so, it's so deliberate. It has to be deliberate.

(17:20):
She is a genius. She's a genius. And for her
and her doing Enigma and her doing this Super Saturday thing,
it's like, it's so I don't know what the references exactly,
but it's her truly being like I mean, she was
back to like dick out, have some big cocks and

(17:42):
South out, bath fast, get your dicks out. I had
it got big cock here in Northern Ireland. It's I
miss Fay Monster Gaga so much any too. I hope
we get it back. I want her to get a
crazy as. I want her coming out like in Cover.
I want her coming out on the red carpet wearing
you know, two band aids and a cork and covering

(18:05):
herself and catch up and being like this is for
the Middle East, Like I want I want that insanity.
I want like messaging that's messy and fucking crazy. And
I think it's genius that she performed Starlet. Yes, Oscar
because I'll tell you, for her to actually give a
performance that was that good, like the performance and Amance. Yes,

(18:29):
because she's stunning in Stars Warring. And when she got
nominated for the Oscar, no one was like. Everyone was like, yeah,
she's great. Yeah, You're like, yeah, I give it. I
mean even though that is such a in many ways
a sloppy film, and she's wonderfully slopping. I mean, like
seeing Ninet, what is it? It's likely improvised, it's so

(18:54):
and it's but it's so good, and you're like, what,
get out? Honestly, get out, get out, Get the funk out. Also,
I will say this, this is shameful. Right after this
and we're back. The other day, I tweeted, why did

(19:15):
you do that? Do that? Do that? Do that? Do that?
To me? It was my most successful tweet I've had
in months. I was I read that tweet from the
last culture his account and I cried in bad It's
I don't know what about it from me? Why did
you do that? To do that? Do that? Do that
to me? It's iconic culture. It's so fun. And we're
standing here in still talking about stars Born and that's

(19:37):
something my favorite partist, Diane Warren being like, know you
guys that we were trying to write it like a
good bops. They were like all reports, like we love
that this song is horseship. Can you talk to us
about your process of writting a bad song to show
that Ali's bad and to sell out And she was like, oh,
we were like what is that that? I'm actually proud

(19:59):
of the song. But um, yes, did you did you
see my insane new Oscar nominated song from the movie Breakthrough,
performed by Christie Mets What is our life? I don't know,
but I mean Diane Warren at the Oscars is its
own performance. But back to Diane Warren and from the

(20:20):
audience after that song, and she's fully sobbing. She knew
that she had moved the world. She knew that I'm
standing with you from Breakthrough had changed the world. And
I think she was I thought she had a chance
of winning. I don't know, you can't win against um
wait who won again. Well, it was oh my god,
this is how much this category is. Like, I mean, honestly, honestly,

(20:44):
Into the Unknown should have won if they weren't going
to nominate that song that Mary Steinbergen wrote. Do you
care about this? Mary Steinbergan wrote a song Shoot, okay,
this is a psychotic story. Mary Steenbergen. Yeah, had surgery
on something something she needs to go and then she

(21:05):
woke up. She woke up and was a musical genius.
She had never This is fucking insane. It's like within
the last like five years it happened. And then she
hasn't been acting as much because all she can do
is think of music. So there's like, this is insane,
you guys. Musical thoughts attack her in the middle of

(21:26):
the night and she has to write her music because
after her surgery she's now thinks in musical terms and
I can't stop. So she wrote a gorgeous song that's
at the end of wild Rose called Glasgow and um
it was like it won like all sorts of awards,
and then it got snub for the Oscar and it

(21:47):
was actually like one of the biggest Oscar snubs and
then um, and it could have won if it was
in the category. Oh you know what one was the
Elton Johnson, which literally what a good story to have
them both when Yeah, definitely wonderful, but um, we should
say that as we were watching the Oscars. I was

(22:08):
here in l A watching the Oscars. I was watching
the Best Original Song nomine performances, and I was like,
why do we even have this category at this point?
And then I remember because every few years we get
you get a shower or I'll let it go and
you need it. But it's like sometimes these nominees, it's
like you could tell. It's like Diane Warren is gonna
poop out and I'm standing with you from Breakthrough and
it's gonna get nominated on her name alone, and like

(22:31):
why do we have this? And why? Um? But that
Mary Stanberg thing is funny. I mean, it happens with
people who wake up and learn of know a full
new language. It's crazy. What can happen to your brain?
It's actually real culture number. It's crazy what can happen
to your brain? Hashtag during surgery? Hashtag during surgery. Now
let's move on to a wider OSCARS conversation. I feel

(22:54):
like we've moved well before we move away from this
original song, I want to say, did you see Adina's
perform It's along with every other international as absolutely what
a beautiful safety nut literally genius way to do that,
because it's like a nod to how internationally like it's
huge important and like move it's I was moved watching

(23:15):
it because I was like wow, like girls all the
world over like are watching this movie and that's great.
And I did not love Frozen two, but like whatever,
um the Frozen cannon. I think it's positive. Um, but
her Adina's notes were right, but she was rushing through
her fucking trip. That's I felt that too. She was,

(23:36):
she was about three hours ahead of the music. What
is it about aDNA gets nervous on TV? I think
she gets nervous, but she's a damn Broadway that's true.
But I think when something is televised, get it, movie people,
and I freaks out, get it. I totally get it.
She doesn't look calm and there's This is not to

(23:57):
say that she is not that those performances aren't successful
on some level. No, they keep us talking absolutely, but
I pray for her. I pray for her yeah, And
I famously said on this podcast at Zina is a
base and I have to say she was hitting her.
She was hitting her solid tent, you know, ten or

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one notes and we support her and the notes were good.
Just it was a little fast this time, a little fast.
Um okay. So I mean speaking of best original song,
that eminem performance, we don't. I mean, there's what hell?
What hasn't been? Sad girl? What? It felt so desperate?
I mean, no one still, no one knows why not

(24:39):
even Marshall Mathers himself, what was going on? All of
a sudden he came out. I was like, what is
his sports? Not even an anniversary because I was about
two thousand three. Or tell you what, I would have
respected it more if they had booked him to come out,
just say the word faggot and then leave, because then
I would have said, you know what, it's art, it's

(25:01):
confronting the artist, it's confronting the culture now, which is
so sensitive. And never forget that he called his faggots
every day. Every day he called specifically reached out to
us and called his bag. He actually texted me, He
texted me every day, Marshall, I say, girl, girl, what
are you doing because think he doesn't text me. But

(25:22):
it's important that we don't erase the fact that that
Marshall Mathers a k a. Eminem was the most famous
homophobe in the world. Yes, and um, you know, now
we kind of throw around this uh sort of eligibility.
We go, oh, you know, Laura Doran can say faggot whatever,
it's well, it's it's we're beyond that with Eminem. We're like,
it's not that Eminem can't say fagets that he has

(25:43):
has done it many times in a malicious and a
hurtful way. And I can, who was felt confronted by
it every single day and whose life was worse for
having him in the media, that I don't want to
see him at the Oscars, something pretty much exclusively watched
by gay men and women who he also talked about
beating exclusively in his music. So I don't understand really

(26:06):
why we're doing this, you cause and actually we can
say that the friendship with him and Elton John makes
no sense either. And I don't think John. I don't
think so, honey, Elton John is friends of Eminem. Girl. Honestly,
I don't need it. I don't need it. Okay, let's
talk with the oscars as a whole. So no, I
mean the gag. Since we've last spoken, I don't know

(26:29):
you said you were about to watch Parasite on a plane.
I did watch it. I have not heard your thoughts,
and I'm truly shocked that you have not spilled forth
and told me what you thought about the film. Shocking film,
a fantastic film, impactful. I thought, the real announcement of
a new directorial voice, Like I know he's done so

(26:50):
many films and people have been a fan of his films,
but now like for this to be this mainstream thing
like Pung Jung Ho. I believe this makes him truly
an international, an old brand, because I was what I'll
tell you what I watched after I watched the film
is I often like to go back and see, like
I'll go on YouTube and following a little wormhole about

(27:11):
takes on the film, and you know, there's this really
good piece and I wish I could recall off the
top of my head what YouTube channel it is, but
that really walks through the sequence which is spoiler alert,
getting um the mother to replace their housekeeper, about the
pace at which that sequence moves and how it's all

(27:31):
very timed down. He's obsessed with rhythm. I thought, this
is really amazing. This is someone who's like brain is
connected to their talent and in a way and and
like can really articulate the way they want things to
play out on screen in a way that I feel
is worthy of being in the same name recognition as
those directors he was nominated with. And I think, after

(27:52):
having watched it, that is a very good screenplay, win director,
win and win. Now the the for me, it's just
so crazy and I did not. I was I got
chills when he won the Best Original screen because I
was like, oh, he might win this, he might say
I actually I predicted it for a picture. I kind

(28:14):
of had a feeling for picture too, and I was like,
just in a perfect right that it's either that or
I mean, based on prognosticators, it was down between. It
was between Parasite, That's what they were saying, and there
was like spoiler was once upon a time, if there
was like if there was gonna be something cuckoo happening.
And I was like, you know, I think that the

(28:34):
Parasite film was going to win because you saw the
way that everyone reacted when they won, like the sag Award,
that was a moment everyone's like and like watching them
all on stage, did the like the ensemble, You're like, yes,
this movie and I was really the acting snubs, these

(28:54):
snubs and it is a raiser because well that's what
it is, because I mean, we can say pretty definitively
that the reason why none of those actors were nominated
is probably because the overwhelmingly white voting body did not
bother to learn their names. But it's also like, I mean,
you nominated Rinko Cokuchi, Sure did, but I think that

(29:17):
Rinco Cockuchi was one of the only Asian actresses in
the film, and I think I honestly think they just
saw Asian like, okay, we can't tell them. And it
contributes to the faces narrative which I believe the Western
world puts on the Eastern world because we don't put
the time and effort into Oh and I can get
into this later about a fucking disease that's spreading through

(29:41):
the world and how we're kind of very casually dehumanizing
the people who are dying. Anyway, absolutely, and this would
not be something that would happen if it was happening
in Connecticut a coronavirus. Yes, I mean we we would
not be even making a joke about it anyway. Um,
but I'll get into that later. But I'm so glad
you liked it. I would have given two nominous to

(30:04):
the cast. I would have given Mrs Park absolutely to me.
The performance of the film that I will remember is
the Mrs Park the rich Mother, because the film doesn't
really work without that performance being like so you're like,
oh you like her, and you so funny you like her,
but you are like you understand, like you're frustrated with her,

(30:27):
but also like you get it. The specific things in
the script like buy me drugs. They worked so well
because she was giving such a specific performance her like
sexual chemistry with her husband. Loved it, her weird little
relationships with everyone in the movie, Like this is a
woman who's like that sort of rich woman who nothing

(30:49):
really bad has really ever happened to her, and so
she's able to open up to people like she kind
of loved the attentions, the whole thing where it's like
they're like when the family, when the Kims are like
eating and drinking at the in the living room. They're
like they're so nice, but it's like they can afford
to be that blew my mind. Oh my god. The
movie made me think so many I've not been able

(31:09):
to stop thinking. It's an amazing performance and sun Kano.
I have given him the nomination for a Supporting Actor
just because I feel that he you really, he's one
of those actors where you remember his face. He's such
an emotional face, like little things like like like anguish

(31:31):
and also like um, self satisfication, self satisfaction, like it's
all there. There's so much going on. And I would also,
you know, say the entire cast is amazing, entire cast
is great, and like I would say, the protagonist of
the movie is probably the son. The son, and I
thought he was great and you know, um housekeeper. Though

(31:53):
I'm liking on the actresses, yeah, obsessed, like it was
able to portray like Asian female all suffering such a
fun I must say, fun way. Yes, it was kind
of fun to see her like gravel, gravel, gravel, and
then when when and then when the rest of the
Kimes fall, it just immediately turned and sho records and
she's like, I'll send this and so fun. You know,

(32:17):
so hard to with a script that really takes big
swings keep the tone because even when the tone quote
unquote tone shifted and it became not really a comedy
more it became a tragedy um and very dark at
the end and violent. Yes, um, I still felt like
it was within the voice. Yes it's and that is

(32:39):
a real achievement. It reminds me it's like a it's
like a Jordan Peel movie and it's very that. Um.
And anyway, I I'm so glad you liked it, and
I just I just thrilling to watch it. When the
Oscar thrilling every New Award, I was like, yes, and
I just kept believing and believing, especially because the acting
reasons were so fun, so boring. Um. But I mean,
I think was Jason kim Um, who has just his

(33:03):
journey all Awards season of just being so obsessed with
parasite is. She was truly so fun to track. But
he commented on miss Jane Fond his breathwork an incredible
performance because she opens the envelope and you can tell
that like she understood this is miss Hannoy Jane we're
talking about. She saw she saw this and she was like,
oh my god, I took a breath parasite, like, what

(33:28):
a moment. And she knew it was going to be
a moment and so fun. And she reword that dress
that she's worn in the past, sustainable fashion, Thank you.
She also brought that red coat out that she's been
getting arrested in. You notice that she was holding her
iconic redcoat that she's gotten arrested in like twelve What
an icon Jane fund did you see? Jane. Yes, I
can't recommend this enough to the readers. You must. It

(33:50):
is so good, you guys, I mean, and you cannot
do anything but respect and stand. And the thing is
it's also you get an understanding and and it's also
a film about the difficulty of being a woman in
this or any industry, just about like how culturally like
it is very difficult to get out of the shadow

(34:12):
of men who dominate you. And it is about men.
It is about it is about the relationship to men,
and just not no spoilers, but every it's it's like
five chapterion Jane Jane, and five acts, and the first
four acts are all names of the men in her
life that were that were her husbands or her father.
And then the last one is called Jane, and it's like, what,

(34:33):
it's very very good, Jane fond It is an icon.
I knew when I saw the list of presenters. I'm like,
she'll be presenting the best picture. I had the feeling,
and then she did. Before we go to break what
your thoughts on um at acting winners? I thought about
this today and someone pointing this out to I mean,

(34:53):
we love that Ms Dern has an Oscar. Strange that
that was the roles that she got it for. And
you know, I've talked about this like ad nauseum, like
while we've been off the air. It feels insane to
still be talking about it. But I'll just wrap this.
My thoughts on it are you can't tell me that
that was not an Oscar win for someone that we

(35:17):
the Royal we are all obsessed with right now. We are,
I mean, that's should we We saw an opportunity to
give her an Oscar and we gave her one that
wasn't performance. Wasn't the performance. But it happens all the time,
and it's and we're not saying that it's it's it's
not earned or anything it's just it's interesting, and it
sort of peels back the layer of the whole sort
of facade of the meritocracy of awards. It's like, Okay,

(35:38):
it's not it's not like a direct correlation. There's a
million other factors that are outside of it. And I
also feel like it just goes to show that like
how much further ahead and how much better television is
than film right now, because we can see her do
that literally fourteen times on every episode of Big Little
Lies Better, like blow that ship away, and I I

(36:03):
just feel like, you know, I hope it's not that
thing where in five years, like she gives a performance
that's like truly amazing and we feel like we gave
it to her already, because that's how you get the
thing of Renee wins for Cold Mountain right when she
should have won for Chicago and right, and and it's

(36:24):
like that's how you pick the can further down the road,
and then like you're like, who cares about this? You
know what I mean? It kind of takes some value away.
I don't know. Um. And then good for Brad Loved
Loved Him in Once Upon, Um, good for miss Joaquin,
miss Wain is certainly a performance. And we stand Renee,

(36:46):
We stand Renee, And I don't know about that speech.
They're gonna have to pass on that. We're gonna have
to get a writer for that one. We're gonna have
to whittle down that list of name drops. He's gonna
have to edit that one. I'm gonna have to edit that.
We're gonna have to uh two times speed that one. Okay,
So we once, we're gonna, we're gonna go. We're gonna
go to a break with them. We're back. We've got
to talk about this thing that's poisoned our brains. This

(37:06):
means that I wouldn't say poison, but it's truly it's
added something. And we'll talk about it. But we're gonna
go to break and we'll be right back. Okay, we're back. So, Matt,
before we went to break, we sort of dipped into
this new vernacular way of this this this way that
we speak now, which is so it's so interesting that
it's happening now. Basically, you guys, we've become um powerless

(37:31):
against the Aretha Franklin interview where she says good gowns beautiful.
I mean, that's the that's the poll quote. We all
know writer young producer Whitney was a talent, and this
that we've we've become. We went to Puerta Viarda with
some friends time and just sat around and watch this interview.

(37:52):
And then I don't know if this ever happens to
you guys, the readers, but like something will just become
so fun and stupid to say that it's all you
can say. That's become us with this. This is different though,
this is really my personality. Yeah, same and and so
she has this one line in it, this is the
locust that you're focusing on? Is that? Um? You know,

(38:13):
the interviewer asks her about Nikim Minash and she goes,
Nicki Minaj, I'm gonna have to pass on that one.
So now it's just become I'm gonna have to stand
on that one. It's gonna have to admire that one's
gonna have to be skeptical on that one. I'm gonna
have to ride that one. Um. And we went to
Disneyland recently and we had to put on ponchos for
the river right the Grizzly River and have to put
a punch on for that one. But my favorite distillation

(38:36):
of it is going, I'm gonna have to put that
you gonna have to put on that one. I'm gonna
have to put on that one. I'm gonna have to
sit on that one. It's we are becoming the stupidest
people in America, and it's happening at a very quick rate.
So I want to tell you all, if it gets
to the point where we are doing this podcast and
it's musha, musha, musha, understand it's a wreatha Franklin's for

(39:00):
being too iconic, but for just just the way she's
like is struggling through this interview being like okay, Alesia Key, okay,
good producer, young producer, good writer, young performer, young performer.
And it got to the point where me, you, Patrick Rodgers,

(39:20):
and Jared took a car back from this new yest
part was sick, a lovely talkative driver. I was talking
us all about, you know, the sort of the changing
dynamics of taxis in Puerto Vierta, and just talking us
about all the new writers and stuff. And we truly
all we only spoke to him in Aretha Franklin sound bite. Well,

(39:42):
no one in the car could understand each other anymore
because of the language barriers and because of the just
the substances that were we were extremely on substances. And um,
he was like saying how it was busy night for him.
We were just like stand on that one to stand
on the good driver rights. And then he would just
be like people, yes, very young drivers and would be

(40:03):
like and he and it was psycho psycho he he
would not stop talking. No, he was the most talkative
lift driver. So truly, it meant that we had openings
to say anything we wanted any time, and it would
not would not have been heard. So we so me,
you and Patrick just in the backseats would just be like, okay, okay,
stand good roads, good roads, good roads, young road, long roads.

(40:25):
And and since his baby and baby, and we can't
stop and we can't stop, and so sorry that was
a talent. That driver was a talent and Sissy's baby
and baby, and unfortunately we will try our best to
not have that perfected the rest of the episode. But
don't trust that. Don't trust you can't trust ourselves. But
before we move on from the oscars too too much, okay,

(40:48):
I think this is something to say about the oscars,
which spend segways into what I think was a cultural
mamma for our lifetimes. The j Los J Los, Okay,
you're gonna have to pass on that. I have to
pass them, Gonna have to um turn off the oscars
on that one. I'm gonna have to disagree with that
one's gonna have to fight for that one, gonna have
to I'm gonna have to slam the Academy, say Academy

(41:12):
on that particular one, because thanks for making it way
less fun y'all. We could have seen the dress we
play dress, not even the dress, you know what I'm saying,
Like you needed to invite Kathy Bates what to bring
the glamour bitch. Miss Bates didn't even want to be there.

(41:33):
She got to see Jerry from Cheer on the red
carpet and that was like truly the highlight. Verson she
did not want to be there. She probably wasn't shocked
as anyone else. What is going on? Just let Kathy
spend a Sunday night at home, don't drag her out
to fucking you know will be there J LO after

(41:54):
the year she's had. Oh my god, I can tell
you way to stick it in and break it off
when she hosted Can I tell you I went to
that damn dinner? Yeah? Can you talk about that? It
was I can't say too much, but she you could
tell she was very excited for the years. She dropped
a little hints about the Super Bowl perform and she

(42:14):
had just FaceTime with Secure's team, and so Bowen went
to the SNL has a dinner with the host and
some of the cats get to go, and bow And
went to the one with Jayla and it was truly wild,
and you could just tell that she was excited, and
she was like, you know, I'm She's like, she was like,
you know, I'm you know, I'm in a very fun
place in my career. It's like, oh my god, like

(42:34):
and she deserves it, Yeah, and I was. And also
the performance deserved to be nominated with the rest of those.
I mean, I personally would have voted for it, but
it cleared the way from Mrs Durrance, and I did vibe.
I did vote for her for SAG, but anyone went
to lordn someone I love, someone you love and it's like,
I also love fairness. So there you go. It's it's
really tough to sort of weigh your your value, your

(42:57):
values in this way. Yeah, because it's like then you're
then you're the gay who's saying that Laura Dern didn't
deserve it. But I'm just sorry. I will continue to
be the truth teller, a seer. I will continue to
be a seer, thank you, and we will do that,
and we will do that on this podcast and we
have the platform. Now let's move towards joy and talk
about this god damn super Bowl halftime one of the best.

(43:20):
I would say, maybe I'm actually going to be hyperbolic.
Maybe I can't remember enjoying one more. And this does
not take anything away from Beyonce, who is the queen
of both times she did the super Bowl, but it
was a different flavor. Oh my god, what they were
so good? Was exceeded my act my very high expectations, girl,

(43:41):
My expecitions were very high. She Wolf was the first
song performed at the halftime Super Bowl, and that's gay rights,
and that's gay rights, that's gay rights. I'm gonna have
to gonna have to stand on that one. Her fucking
shredding that good are I'm gonna have to stand on

(44:01):
that and I have to gonna have to watch that one.
I'm gonna have to be impressed by that one. And
then when she did her belly dance, I was like,
this is so and the lightning was perfect. When they
did the close up of Shakira's face, she looked so
fucking stunning. I was like, this wacko that she looks
as beautiful. And to bring her just because we're staying

(44:24):
on Shakira for now, but to reincorporate her into the
performance on the drums, oh my god, genius truly well,
And when they cut to her and she was playing
those drums, I fell out. I felt like, that is
the funniest shot I've ever seen. It's so cool, so good.
And also you forget whenever, wherever, and that was a

(44:46):
cultural moment. Oh yeah. When that song came out, we
and I had just started taking sixth grade Spanish Bitch,
which and it was huge for that class. You actually
better count yourself as lucky that your breath are small
and humble. They would be confused with mountains. It's actually
real culture number thirty. You're actually as lucky that your

(45:11):
breaths are humble so that they are not confused with mountains. Lucky,
and that's a message. Gonna have to read the text
on that gonna have to examine the text on that one.
I'm gonna have to gonna have to say the lyrics
on that one. It's stupid. We cannot turn back from

(45:32):
that son crying. It's so suddenly out of nowhere. It's
the funniest thing that we can no longer think for ourselves. Yeah, well,
it's actually on track with the rest of the world.
How it's going seventy degrees in ANARCA the other day
you told me I'm fine sinking And the last thing

(45:54):
I says, like gas for breath is gonna have to
try to Likena, have to gonna have to gas for
breath on that one. I'm gonna have to grow some
gills on that one. Good about to become a cuser
in a water world of film on on that one. Okay, well,
but we got from Jo now, Okay, So first of all,

(46:14):
just to put a period on it, Shakira one of
the best performers alive. Unbelievable, unbelievable. Then Jlo comes to
funk out. Well, first of all, I've never seen anyone
more beautiful that pose. Oh my god, the way the
skirt flowed out, just someone who was so amned to
do the super Bowl and every moment, Oh my god,

(46:37):
what an icon when an icon gave you full Kylie Minogue,
all the Lover's music video fantasy bodies piled on top
of each other, the boys beautiful that just were nuts.
They were killing it so good. We got get right
at the super Bowl jagged. When that happened, I was like, absolutely,

(47:00):
We're so lucky on the floors one of my favorite
songs of all time. Play it at my wedding, funeral, graduation, graduation.
Stay tuned for a future episode where we referenced this.
But oh my god, um also just waiting for tonight.
When she got up on the pole. First of all,
no one can ever do that green light again. That's

(47:22):
her light, that color of the greenes. You knew exactly
what it was. I was like, this, she owns this
light and truly, like, has she laid claim to polls now?
No one can pull dance again, No one can pull
dance on ever again. And she was like, by the way,
never forget hustlers. I remember I was watching with Jared
and he goes, never forget hustlers. Truly, never forget never forget,

(47:46):
and the Academy forgot. And then she said, I'm actually
gonna pull dance at the super Bowl. You Fox, Yeah,
it's actually watched by more people, and Laura Dern could
never do it. Can I say something? You can say
whatever you want. Actually I was. I watched the Super
Bowl quite frankly at Miss Heidi Gardner's apartments. We actually
stand Gardner and we're going to have to stand on
We're gonna have to stand on stand on that one.

(48:07):
She was feeling the chief spirits she had. She shared
her Kansas City friends who are so sweet, who took
the time to really explain the rules of football to me.
I did you know do you know the rules of
You're pretty familiar with the rules of What happens in
football is you throw the ball to each other and
men try to run across the line at the end
of the field. And that's literally not even at the

(48:28):
end of the field. It kind of moves. That's what happens.
Is the first down line, Yes, and you need to
keep getting the first down so that you can have
more chances to get that. Okay, so you've known this
for a long time. I've actually known this for a
long time because my father was a varsity football You
have to remember I once was a babyhood a little
jersey that said little Rogers on the back of My
dad was actually known as a quote defensive coordinator genius

(48:52):
on the Long Island I believe, okay, and an award
winning defensive coordinator at that. That being said, that is
going on with most of the Why are the plays
so complicated with the little men like oh that it's
like the xs and ohs that you draw. You're trying
to run to the other side because either you throw it,
someone has the option to, like girl, throw it to

(49:12):
one person or another person. I look and then at
times the QB runs himself. Sometimes he's just giving the
ballow to someone else. I gotta do a deeper dive.
But really, all it took because Sudy and I were
there at this party together and we were like, wait
a minute, we kind of get we kind of get
what's going on, and this is this is very fun
to watch all these straight men have figured it out.
I don't I'm not gonna make a comment on that. Okay,

(49:34):
you're gonna pass on that. I'm gonna have to pass
on that one. But then the next day I go
into work and then I literally google football rules yeah,
and like watching at two time speed because I was like,
I don't have a lot of time, let's go and
absorbed at all, not all, but I was just like, oh,
I get it now, and this is fun and interesting,
and I thank god for j Loo Shicure because if
if it was and miss Heidi Gardner, which who I

(49:54):
put on the same pedestals those are actually the three three.
But I was like, thank God for this because now
I'm interested in this. My horizons have expanded, and I'm
kind of into this new thing called new culture. Culture.
I would say this, I have a couple of notes
for football, and it's just thoughts and and people. Costumes
are better, should be better. I would say that I

(50:16):
could we could use an update on the cost Yes, yes, yes,
one thing. There's a quarterback and a cornerback. I feel
these two words are too similar, as I think we
should just change um. I think yeah, like quarterback, I
think should we should keep calling him a quarterback because
that's the culture. Cornerback should be like quarterbacks should be
like angle angle back or something or just I don't know.

(50:38):
I would just call him like back. I would I
was miss back, I would say, well, what does the
cornerback do? Do you know that? I don't think I
know that? Is he the one who snaps the ball?
Call him the snapper snapper? That's much easier. But so
that's one of my notes. Also, these brains are becoming
mush This is so my my, my, My small thing

(50:58):
is we have to change quarter back in cornerback. My
big thing is their brains were coming us and we're not.
We're there're nothing's being done about it. I mean, outside
of Will Smith making a movie about Doug's laughing, it's
not it's no laughing. It's actually not funny. I'm actually
not funny at all. I'm going to have to disapprove
on them. I have to disapprove on that one. We
have straight people in the booth who are I guess

(51:20):
laughing at us, And I'm sorry, but I mean, there's
there's things to point out that costumes need an upgrade
quarterback cornerback. It needs to be a snapper quarterback, and
the brains should We should do something about them. If
you're gonna talk to queer people about football, the last
thing we're gonna do is dehumanize the player, right exactly.
I also think that we actually, you know, how they're
actually moving to cut the dancing and celebrations when they

(51:43):
do a touchdown before well, that's that's that's that's how
you end up having like personalities in football and like hello,
like you end up loving the people because they're of
the dancing girl. You know, Ticky Barber. You've heard of
this pros dancer, a dancer, and we need more of that.
I think miss j J. Watt was a dancer. Well

(52:03):
you know her. I listen. I gotta say J. J.
Watt lovely had a very good experience. I love that
for you. I did not know who J. J. Watt
was when it was announced and I looked at it,
said host J J. Watt, And I said, is there
someone in the culture that I do not know? And
that I said, of course an athlete, very very fun,
very fun person. I'll say, this hot and could snap

(52:26):
me in half if he wanted, could take my neck
and rip my head clear off my body, and I'd
be fine. I gonna have to gonna have to agree
on that. One could break my arm. Um on him
breaking your arm, I agree with that. Yeah, Okay, So
I just know that I will know it wouldn't be
upset about it. I'd be happy. Okay. Anything else to
cover on super Bowl I don't think so Okay. Um,

(52:47):
So that's the super Bowl. Amazing slay and we should
say that incredible chill inducing moment when she revealed the
Puerto Rican fly. Oh my god born in the USA
pages Jayla Wins j Lo Wins. Um. So super Bowl
was incredible. Now we've spoken about the Grammys a little
bit billy that I just took over. I don't know

(53:07):
what anyone, to be honest, I didn't watch well. It
was a sad event because that was the day of Kobe. Yes,
and can I tell you where I was when I
found out that Kobe Bryant has passed away. So Patrick
Rodgers and I who has become my sister? He is
and the thing is like I love him, We love
and we are the house because we have the same

(53:28):
last name and he's become a sister. And so now
we have a ritual where we go to the wee Spa.
I won't say when we go because then people, well
we'll follow. I don't know, um, but I like going
to this we spa and to be in the sauna
and it's not a crauzy thing, no, no, no no, it's
just like a nice, like family oriented. Chloe was telling

(53:49):
me about how she loves it. Yeah, So we spas
fucking great. And we were sitting there and we were
in the sauna and we were watching television and it
was breaking news that this tragedy had happened with Kobe
Bryant and one of the most met in America, especially
in Los Angeles, Jesus Christ. And so watching men Los
Angeles based men come into the sauna fully naked, seeing

(54:12):
them turn to the screen and realize what was happening,
and watching these more nude realized that Kobe Bryant had died,
was like, there's never nothing, but I've never seen anything
more vulnerable. My god, it was I'll never forget where
I was when that happened. Oh my god. We were
like gags who were like, how does this happen? And
so crazy not to bring it down, but no, no, no, no, no,

(54:34):
it's it's you forget man, well, truly accident. The thing
that I was sort of like taking away from it
was that it's just like, for no reason, these things
just happen for truly no reason, and it's it just
it just like speaks to like the fragility of it all.
The fact that he went to church and like we
can't even realize the last week was to Lebron and

(54:54):
it's just like, yeah, it's like crazy. I mean, when
you get into the pacifics of the rest of it,
it's just too sad. So obviously that was a very
very very bad day. And um, watching the Grammy's that night,
like I almost was happy that it was Alicia Keys.
Like I don't love Alicia Keys as a Grammy's host,
Like I'm over like the let's do good vibes hosting.
I think that we should have jokes. I think we

(55:15):
should be laughing and we watch those things. So I
don't love her as a host, but you almost that
day was were like it's kind of good, you know,
because I think all we need is just to like
settle into the problem reality of this. I'm like, you know,
move through it. Um, But that was that was a
crazy evening. That was one where I woke up and

(55:35):
was just like went to the bathroom and just like
scrolled through my phone and it was like wait, wait,
what is crazy. I didn't believe it was happening for
a while. Yeah, it was weird to be here too,
because I I think I didn't grasp like what I
thought he was in Los Angeles, like I've never cared
about basketball. But yeah, um well, outside of that, the

(55:57):
Grammys were fun and wait, oh this is what I
wanted to say, Demi, Demi. God. Now there was just
it was the battle of the ballads at this mine.
It felt like which Camilla Okay, the Camilla First Man performance.
I actually stabbed that song. Okay, And I'm gonna have
to cry for my father on I'm kind of you

(56:18):
ll the first Man love Me. I'm a little chilled.
I'm not chilled. I just find it very interesting how
And I'm not saying that it's irredeemable. She's irredeemable, but
it's we're we've all kind of very quickly moved from
the unword of it all. Right, But here's my thing
with her and the N word of it all. It's
like I think that she seemed like someone who culturally

(56:40):
like was not it was just not aware she could.
But I don't know about that because the normanity the
normany thing, what kind of creeps me the funk out.
What happened with the Normandy is like on his interviews
now being like yeah, like they were coordinated like online
like campaigns, attack campaigns that she kind of like sort

(57:05):
of like dog whistled, like like like I'm butchering it.
But like but Normani has basically been out there like
when the whole like Nward thing, like the Tumbler thing
like came out, like apparently Normani was just like yeah,
I mean, I was getting fucking vile ship from Camilla
fans and it seemed like it was like from the sword,
like it was coming from one place. So I'm I'm

(57:27):
gonna I'm gonna have to stay team Romany on that one.
I mean, yeah, I mean if we're picking, so I
don't know, I mean not that we're picking, but it's
just like I feel that bums me out because I
was really liking Camilla and there's room to like her
and I'm not and I'm not saying that it's I'm
not saying like cancel, cancel, cancel, because that's like also
like such so absolute and stupid, but like it's it's

(57:48):
just like wait a minute, Well, bottom line is she's
still Cinderella. That's the thing too. I'm like, okay, and
we're like, we're like very like casually announcing all these
new casting things that are how thing with this movie,
and I think it probably would be too much to
like do anything with that. I also, I'm saying there's
a lot of Chamilla news that like is being like
kind of like celebrated, not celebrated. We're just like cool.

(58:10):
My thing too with the whole First Man performance was
like she's singing the song to her dad about how
like it's time to give me up to the man
of my dreams who I've met and I'm with, and
it's like Sean, Okay, here we go. She thinks Mentis
is the one. Oh my god, whose disease is this?
What do we do? Oh wow, I don't know. I'm

(58:33):
gonna have to pass. I'm gonna have to question question
that one. But anyway, um and DEMI I thought, I yeah,
I live. She sucking slay the super Bowl Slay the
super Bowl was wide open at the Grammys. Hey, he
she was giving you the notes. She's never sounding better,

(58:56):
a full gape of a mouth, the lyrics that lyrics.
I feel stupid when I sing that is that's real raw.
Wait to see what she has. We have a lot
of respect for her and also Billie Eilish one a
approximately seventeen Grammys and um slay on Silver Girl, Play
on Silver Girl, Green Girl, Green Green Girl. You're gonna

(59:19):
have to like your bond theme on that one. Gonna
have to love the Gucci on the um. Speaking of
music news, uh Adelway's eight pounds Okay, where are you
with this? I'm sort of like concerned it's okay, and
I'm concerned about the coverage of it because like they're
literally like reaching out to her friends or truly who
knows if they're her friends, if they're just like fucking acquaintances.

(59:39):
Were like, yeah, the divorce is actually really good for
her in terms of her body. It's like, shut up.
I don't like the whole discourse around it. She definitely
has lost a ton of weight. I hope that she's
doing it in a healthy way. I just it's always
shocking to me to see such a dramatic weight loss
because she didn't need to know whatever. I hope that

(01:00:03):
she's I just hope she's happy. That's all. Whenever whenever
I see someone who's appearance has drastically changed, and you
know they've had a hard time. I just say, I
hope they're happy. Yeah, you know what I mean. Like
it doesn't rule it out right, and just it doesn't
rule out that that it's all buttressed by like good stuff,
by like healthy behaviors. Um. Looking forward to the music,

(01:00:25):
looking forward to the music, and when the narrative can
be about the music is sure. And she leaked that
it's coming out in September, Yeah, which we love, which
we love. And I've been listening to Skyfall a lot
because of the billy song coming out, and I'm still
in love. Classic voices, haunting, I mean, and and that's
why you have. Best original song is for the Skyfall years,

(01:00:46):
for yours, your your your strally for your sky falls. Um,
so listen, speaking of um, speaking of moments, moments, what
a transition, what a segue, Jamila, jim Oh, I thought
you were gonna go somewhere else, Jimmy, we gotta talk
about so let's just let's just try and wrap this

(01:01:09):
up in as tight a boon as possible. Jamie Jamil.
Literally seconds after the Good Place Sence has revealed her
full crazy, she gets announced as a like m C
and like head judge on this show. Apparently the first
press press release was wrong because it said she was
the MC. So she comes out, but how is the

(01:01:31):
press release from from HBO Max. So then she comes
as and then she gets all this flak for not
being this queer person who is like the face of
this voguing show, this ballroom show. And then the next
sort of day, Yeah, this sort of whips ode of
this is that she says, I'm allowed to do this
because I'm queer, and yeah, I wish it wasn't like this,

(01:01:54):
and I wish it didn't come to this, but so
that so that and then she correctly cam queer. She
corrected the press release too by saying I'm not the
m C, I am the head head judge. Doesn't make
a difference to me, it makes less sense because there's
no reason she should be judging it if she were
a presenter of it. Well that's something that she does,
like you don't necessarily need to have know how about

(01:02:16):
the voguing and ball season if you're the host, but
to be a judge and then to correct and be
like no, no, no no, I'm not the host. I'm just
a judge. That's not anyway. That's really annoying. But she
can't have her cake any two where she's going, Um,
I'm queer, I'm allowed to do this, But then she
also goes, but I'm also not part of this ballroom scene,

(01:02:38):
and so that actually makes me an entry point for
other people who aren't into who aren't into voguing as well.
It's like, okay, so then either you're standing with the
queer sort of shade of this or you're just being
I don't know. It's She's like, I'm going to say anything,
and of course it makes sense, and you're like, the wait,
it feels like a gas lady on like a mass level.

(01:03:00):
And then did you see her get into it with
Trace La Set No, I didn't see that, Okay, So
Tracey La set tweets that she was up for all
the same ship that Jamila was up for. I didn't
get it despite actually being a house mother from the
ball scene and like like a true queen from that scene,

(01:03:21):
like authentically from that culture. And she was like, well,
I auditioned for this ship and didn't get it, so
this is weird. And Jamila responded to Trace and be
like Hey, babe, I think what you auditioned for was this?
Not this? We were up for the same thing. And
she goes, no, girl, I know what I auditioned for. Also,
I don't need to audition to be a housemother. I
am one, so et cetera. This is like like step back.

(01:03:44):
She set her absolutely right. But then the kness about
the parade of illnesses and diseases and accidents. She said, She's, oh,
I see, I fully disengaged and checked out at this point.
I just I if I like starre to, if I
stare too long at this kind of thing, it just
it just it stares back. What is this? She's she's

(01:04:06):
got a bunch of diseases. She's like, I've had cancer
a million times. I was hitting. It's like she's like
talks about like things that have happened in you gotta
if you search it. There's like Instagram threads where they
collect all of the things that she has said about
herself and things that she's gone through and they put
them all together and it's shocking, No, this is this.

(01:04:27):
And the thing is like she's like, come after the
people that are like reporting on it are like talking
about it um and been like, how dare you? How
dare your dare you? And I'm like, how come no
part of the narrative here isn't you saying I know
it's crazy, all these things have happened to me, but
it's true. Like there's no call out of like how
it's an insane amount of things to happen to one person.

(01:04:49):
It's just her presenting it all this fact and saying, Yep,
it's true and if you believe me. If you don't
believe me, you are insane. And it's like, no, girl,
and this stuff has all happened to you. That is wild.
You should be studied. You should be studied as the
unluckiest woman in the world. Oh my god, as opposed
to Shakira. You're gonna have to raise that one. Listen

(01:05:17):
that it's tough. It's tough. It's like, clearly this person
needs a resource, reach out, reach out. That's what we'll
say about that. Let's talk about the two are actually
three three Netflix moments. Okay, here Circle, which I'm still

(01:05:38):
I'm only I'm only an episode two of and so
I think you have not watched The Circle and I
have not watched Cheer. Okay, great, So then let's let's
just educate each other. So you educate me on The Circle.
The Circle, I think is an incredible, important, um reality
show on Netflix that has gotten the closest to satirizing
and examining social media in terms of entertainment and the

(01:06:02):
artifics the artifice of it and what we can get
away with and what people, um people's fears are about
social media and peoples like advantages are on social media
based on their real personality. It's very interesting and I
really like it and I think it ends very satisfied. Great,
I should finish it because right now I'm just having
a hard time with like then being like, hey, private message, Mercedes,

(01:06:24):
we should form in your lines love you girl. Like
it's just like, wait, this is this is how people
talk with that. That's the whole point. So basically you
have to get through those first few episodes because the
people that are bad at playing the game sort of
get weeded out, and therefore it becomes all people that
are good at it or authentically being themselves and are
getting played by it. And that's what it gets. And

(01:06:45):
we love that. I love that show. And talk to
me about Cheer because I tried and um, Oh I
loved it. Was it the Trump stuff? Was it like
the Texas of it all? A little bit of that?
And also, um, I don't like seeing the girls get hurt. Yeah,
well ends up not even being gender specific by the end.
It's like everybody gets hurt. Um. Anyway, Cheer is this

(01:07:07):
documentary series on Netflix that I'm sure a lot of
you have seen by these uh, I think one or
two great sports documentarians, um, who have gone on record
to say that they that then mar Share team is
comprised of the hardest working athletes, the most intense athletes
they've ever seen. Um, and a real cultural moment. I mean, yeah,

(01:07:27):
it's something about like the way that these narratives sort
of we're told and spun out and just it all
it all builds up towards Tona, towards Daytona, UM Tona,
and the stakes are also intricately and elegantly laid. Monaco
A Dama is this wonderful mogul of a woman who

(01:07:48):
has led this team to victory so many times and
really nurtures them but also keeps them in arms length,
and it's just so interesting. Her leadership style is so
interesting and uh, and also What Josh Sharp has pointed
out to me, which I love, is that and what
some of our readers probably have picked up on it
is that it's sort of kind of Trojan horses black
queerness in this very cool way that it's just like

(01:08:09):
it's it's it's it's so it's a junior college where
everyone goes there just for the sports, the athletics of
the ball. But yeah, I mean these like black cheerleaders,
these guys who like go to the school because like
Monica has seen them or something, or they get yeah,
they get scouted, or they just go and they try
out for it. Jerry Harris Ladarius I forget his last name,
but Um sort of like the two like stars. We

(01:08:31):
can't forget to te Um, but they are all. I mean,
it all sort of like is a way to sort
of like show America because I mean, sheer. It's like
Republicans want to see it because it's like Texas and
there's a lot of Texas dning in it, and then
Liberals want to see it because it's like, oh, it's
like dance music. I mean's like there's something for everybody.
There's an entry point for everybody, which is kind of
I think why it became such a moment. It's great,

(01:08:53):
It's so good. I mean, the last episode is the
nail biter of all nail biters. So good, I'll check
it out. Um. It picks up after I would say
the third episode, I think that I was watching The
Circle and the and so I didn't I tried to
watch Cheer, but I feel like it was going to
demand a lot of time for me, and because I
also was watching at the same time, Google Labs. Okay,
now talk to me. But I've only seen the Shroom's

(01:09:15):
episode whom episode is the first episode, and then the
second and third episodes I feel like are like the ones.
So the second episode deals with cold water plunge therapy.
Have you heard of this? I've heard of this. Fascinating.
So there's this guy who suffered a personal tragedy and
then he started this movement of like cold water. I
don't know he picked it up somewhere, but now it's

(01:09:35):
like he's like a guru of plunging yourself in cold water,
like drive your maladies away. Fascinating. And then and Gwyneth
like has her like very thin employees go with yes. Um.
Then the third episode is about um female orgasm and
with a specific doctor, with this ninety year old woman
who looks who is like passionate about all women achieved

(01:10:00):
thing orgasms and like not being afraid of themselves down there.
And there's a sequence where you see ten different volvas
and they talk about how many women believe that they're
deformed because pornography has made it's so impossible to like
see yourself and you know, so it's I thought it
was really this is where Goop Labs to me got

(01:10:21):
really useful. I was like, well, I'm happy that women
are seeing this because I think it will alert some
women to the fact that like they're not deformed because
they don't like a porn star. Um. So that's when
the show, I think is powerful. When it's not powerful
is when the show becomes about dieting and it's trying
to normalize Gwyneth Paltrow's diet of like deprivation, and it's
not healthy the way that those women try to keep

(01:10:44):
your bodies and ship. I mean, that's all. It's not
a lot of awareness about the whole ethos of Goop
is like pseudoscience bullshit, that right, right, And they do say,
like in the beginning of every episode where there's like
a medical moment, they're like, please see a doctor. This
would not be endorsed by any medical profession. Yeah, and
they are accountable in that way, like you're still showing

(01:11:05):
that it's aspirational and yeah, such a fifty fifty show
for me where it's like it definitely is. I enjoyed it,
and I think I think Gwyneth like comes off like
kind of interesting and even more compelling, like it's a star,
Gweneth the star, but it's triggering. It's a triggering show,
and I would I would imagine that it's very hard
for a lot of people to watch and like funk,

(01:11:25):
I'd say it to Gwyneth's damn face. But she knows,
she knows. So that's the Arnold Netflix moment. Now here's
the thing. Speaking of gay icons, we met one. We
met one on separate occasions, separate occasions. Um we talked
about each other to them, Um did it? We're talking
about RuPaul? Talking about RuPaul. Matt, you were on What's

(01:11:48):
the Tea? I was almost the tea and truly one
of the craziest days of my life. And I gotta
say surreal for an outside person to listen to. I
spent about three hours through pall and can you can you?
Can you talk? Asked me in this well we had
we had a we had like me had a meeting
and then um, which was insane. And then during the meeting,

(01:12:09):
he was like, you gotta come be on my podcast
because we're hitting it off. So I went into the podcast,
which you can listen to my episode What's the Team.
Surreal just to be sitting there with Rue and have
talking to him interested in my life at all, and
I was talking to him and I was like, wow,
like this is truly insane, Like to get to the
point where like, truly one of my ails. You heroes

(01:12:29):
think like you know, like probably him and like Kelly
and like Mariah are like the people that I would
and we might have to talk to rule about math
and you guys like went like on an album by
album breakdown, just like I got children bagging out with
Rue about Mariah carry Like I mean, you guys really

(01:12:50):
ran the gamut there in terms of like the biography
of Matt Rodgers, because he talked about Katrina for a
long It was so crazy. I felt like we really
got a chance to like you get to know each other,
and he's I mean, you're both good at this, but
you're both gonna facilitating those meaningful, those meaningful nuggets out
of each other. And then I I didn't know at
the time that he was going to go do SNL,
but when I found that out, I was like, oh

(01:13:12):
my god, like, you're gonna have that moment. You guts
to do that incredible sketch with him. Yeah, you want
me to talk about my mien? Tell me. I mean,
I guess really haven't gotten talking about it. Rue notes
Sudie tells me that he's hosting and over Christmas. I
was like, oh my god, my god, yeah and whatever,
And so all this anticipation builds up and then Monday pitch,

(01:13:35):
you know, we all wait outside Lawren's office and we
go in and then you know, the door opens and
people file in and then normally it's like very quiet
and everyone's just very respectable and polite and sits down
and whatever, and the host just sits there quietly and
like nods of people coming in and it's great. Um,
the door opens and people start filing in and Rude
just goes, hey kitty girl, oh hey, squirrel friend, like

(01:13:57):
just like starts to like enthusiastically greet people like I
love just like people. You have to understand the energy
then person energy is real. It's real. And then me
and Alison Gates like stop in our tracks. We hear
like rue Ru's voice coming out of the room and
we're just like and I turned to her and I
was like, I can't go in there. I was like,

(01:14:17):
this is crazy to sing for people that actually get
the Ruth yes, So I walked and so then we
finally walk in and then Ruth sees me and goes say, dunaway,
and then the whole room is like, oh my god.
That was the first of many communal like room reactions
of like oh because then he sees because then he starts,

(01:14:37):
because then there's a some moment where everyone sits down
and like the room like settles and he's just like,
oh my god, you I know you and I know you,
and then he points to eight way in the back.
He goes and you, and then eight goes and then
everyone in the room screams and like laughs and giggles.
It's it was this infectious like carbonated energy and it
was the funnest pitch ever. We all walk out and

(01:14:59):
you know, calm and like, well that was the funnest
pitch I've ever been a part of. It was joyful, joyful. Um.
And then the next day he comes in. You know,
we're we're, we're, we're we're pitching him stuff more stuff.
And first he met with uh, Tom Campbell, his friend,
the guy who came up with drag Grace was kind
of there, I've met Tom. Yes, he's wonderful. Um was

(01:15:22):
was was his pal who after the Emmys. Yeah, um,
And we sat down so ruined. Tom sit down with
me and Ego and Ago and Rue hit it off
just gangbusters, so fun. And then Rue is like, well
I can do this chard Australian accents. And then he
turns to me. He goes, Brizzie, you were born in

(01:15:42):
Brazzie Brisbane, Like he knew shit about so I'm guessing
he probably he read the he read the article, and
then I and then I and then I brought you up.
I was like, you're what's the t episode with my
best friend in the world. Matt Rodgers just came out.
He He's like he, me and Sudie are like a
trio and like blah blah, blah. He was like, yes,
I loved him. It was just so so like it

(01:16:04):
was just like just softened as soon as I mentioned you,
and he was like, yes, just very fondly like thought
of you. But but seeing RW and Ego like hit
it off, I was like, this is gonna be a
good week for them. And it absolutely. I got two
sketches on did Throsty Cops with him. It was beautiful, beautiful,
And then and then me and James were working on
had this coal miner's idea. We were like we wanted

(01:16:25):
to do some Dynasty like parody for the longest time.
We ruse perfect for it. And then like I texted
James on Monday, I was like, maybe like maybe we're
coal miners, like something super like blue collar and gritty,
and he was like I love that. And so then
James and I meet with RU and a different meeting
that night. It was just four fucking gay men squawk
met James, Tom Brew squawking, quoting fucking you know, Liz

(01:16:48):
Taylor and Kim Novak like throwing shade at each other, Dyan,
Carol Must It was so so so fun and I
was just like this. I was like and and so
That's when I started like I was putting pleasure myself
the whole time, and I was I was like this,
this never happens, even even though I'm like on my

(01:17:08):
second year here. It's like I know that this is
not a not a lot of crest. I was like,
this is so like infectious, and this is the week
to like go like yeah, like fire on all cylinders.
And so I stayed there on Tuesday night to like
six am, longer than I've ever stayed ever, just writing writing, writing, UM.

(01:17:30):
Went home Wednesday was a great table read. And then
like throughout the course of the week, like things just
kind of fell through. And then the call Miner sketch
got cut for time UM, and that really just bumped
me out. And it was a lesson. It was a
lesson where I was like I I both allowed myself
to be bummed up because it was like this, there's
not gonna be another host. I grew until Rue comes
back um. And then so I allowed myself to be disappointed.

(01:17:53):
But then I also was like, you know, like this
is this is a lesson, this is I'm not going
to internalize this in any bitter way. I'm just gonna
like no this feeling and just sort of like let
it sort of enrich my whole, like and ultimately you
are slaying well, it's just I was just like, I
just I mean, we can say you're doing really well.

(01:18:14):
I just put a lot of pressure on myself because
it was rude. Yeah that's all it hoarse, but you can't.
I mean, it had nothing to do with I know,
it's just bad luck. It's just bad luck. And then
we still that job. It's still sucking hard totally. And
then the week before with miss watt Miss j J.
Watt Um wrote a sketch that fucking slated table and
then bombed a dress and of course he got caught

(01:18:35):
and I was not surprised, but that was But then
I told myself after that I was not too upset.
I was like, you know what that was, like the
full Like that was the biggest gap I could have
experienced where something killed, killed, killed at table, bombed, no laughs,
silent address. I was like, it's not going to get
any worse than that, Like that chasm is not going
to get any bigger, like the difference, and like now
I know what that feels like, and I can just
like move move about my life. But then the next

(01:18:57):
week with through, it was just like I just put
so much pressure on myself and then I was my
body was falling apart, right, But I was like, I
gotta like from this. And then you guys were off
the next week, and we're off the next week and
then and then and then I'm here. But anyway, that
was a long that was a lot of room. No,
but I mean the fact that Rue came into both
of our alives around the same time, that was so
wild and truly it was so easy to talk to. Yeah,

(01:19:19):
I couldn't believe it. I mean. And also the first
time we sat down and it was like a meeting,
so I said how are you and he goes, I
don't see how that's any of your business. And I
laughed and I was like, you're right, it's not, and
I'm bad for asking. And then he laughed and he
was like I do that to everyone, and I was
like yeah, and I basically like, I don't know, it's

(01:19:41):
like you would imagine that people a lot of people
probably are like weird around him, Like sure, I'm so sorry,
I asked, yeah, yeah, yeah, weeks and he's just like
a goof he doesn't take left too seriously, which we love, etcetera.
We love. We know that's um um we I want
to talk. Well, we talked a little bit about Rue Rue,
so now we should talk about I have news. I

(01:20:02):
have theme park news the own and I went to
Disneyland the other day. It's trying to get a Rise
of the Resistance. We did not get on. But one
has not done Rise of the Resistance at Disney's all right,
I have done it and have my review. Come on, gag.
I'm gonna have to ride that one. Gonna have to
get on that one. I'm gonna have to enjoy that
One'm gonna have to say there's ray on that One's

(01:20:22):
gonna have to get very scared of Kylo Ren on
that one. I'm gonna have to do a little drop
on that one. I'm gonna have to get my life
on that one. I'm gonna have to get very early,
get there very early in the morning on that one.
So I was at Walt disney World after we were
in Porto Viar and I went with my boyfriend Jared,

(01:20:44):
and he could not wake up early enough. Then you
went got yourself. So I went by myself. But at
the same system where you book a boarding yes, And
I was literally I was there at literally six thirty
in the morning and I got yeah, park opens it well,
that park up in a day at like seven. So
I ended up getting there getting a boarding group because
it's like getting to the park signing to get up

(01:21:06):
and then maybe you get on the right. It's insane.
I got on it. Wow. The whole thing is like
twenty one minutes long. I love that there's like three
different pre shows. All the characters are there, Like Galaxy's Edge,
I've been saying, kind of sucks because like where are
the characters, where's the fun Millennium Falcon Right, it sucks.
Rise in the Resistance makes the whole God, I mean,

(01:21:26):
like it's so good. Really try to go. And Bowen
and I were there the other day at eight am
when the park opened to Disneyland, and we still did
not get We got we got there at seven five
the park of day. We still didn't get truly crazy,
but but we went to Galaxy Sager and I gotta say,
you're you're saying we are the characters. We literally saw
Ray and Chewy, but that was like, not that's not
the norm. That's not the norm. But anyway, I saw Stormtroopers,

(01:21:48):
I was like, oh, I'm there. This right is the
next level. I got. I can't wait. This right is
the next level. And you gasped many times, and I
feel bad that we went and then's gone. But we'll
get John. I I'm not I'm not quite Rodger's level
in my life. Anyway, devotion to the part, I had
to give my update on that one. Um, and I
just want to say, UM, to wrap things up, there's

(01:22:11):
a development coming and you may have been seeing, yes,
the Quimby of it all. What now Quimby Quimby Quick Bites.
Quick Bites is an app y'all that's going to be
like a stream that Flix for apps. But it is
all eight episodes roughly, and I have a show coming

(01:22:33):
out on it that Bone is on called game It's
called Game Show. And I'm gonna be talking about this
on the podcast because I want any readers to download Quimby.
I support this. You've got to download Quibby because I
think Game Show could pop off you if you guys
absolutely support. It's very good, very fun, and we'll talk
more about it. But the Quimby of it all is
something that's happening in the culture and I had to

(01:22:54):
mention and we saw it on Oscar's Night when every
other ad was Quimby and the super Bowl and the
sea and there's going to be more coming. But listen
and there's more. There's there are there is more Quimby
news um to be announced in both of our lives, honey, honey,
just do wait. Um but anyway, that was our culture

(01:23:15):
catch up and we are going to do I don't
think so, honey, absolutely, because it is an episode of
Lost Cultures Us after all, Um, let's go. Let's go.
Just so you guys know if you guys are just
joining us here on our new family, our new home
and radio. Um, we are Lost Culture Raised Us and
we do a segment, one segment called I don't think

(01:23:36):
we take one minute to rant against something in pop culture.
We also do live shows, um but and I are
going to announce some live shows soon, probably a New
York and Los Angeles, no promises, but we are really
looking forward to getting back on the road and doing more.
I don't think so, honey, because they are our favorite thing.
There are our favorite thing, and just too, I might

(01:23:57):
as well sort of make a little statement on this. UM.
A lot of the touring cities that we went to
last year, the recordings UM ended up sort of at
one changer or another being compromised or unusable, and it
ended up ultimately being a network issue where they didn't
publish them even though they had the audio. True. I mean,
that's just what it is. Yeah. Um so if you're

(01:24:18):
looking for those episodes to come out, unfortunately I don't
think they were going to come out, and it truly
breaks my heart and I but it was lose. I
do lose. I actually sleep over because there's shows where
all every one of those shows was killed and we
just want to let everyone know like it wasn't because
any like city wasn't like a good show. They were
all such good shows and we were so excited to

(01:24:40):
have every single one of them on the podcast. Then um,
it just didn't happen. But you know, we're sorry about that.
If you were a performer on one of our shows
that didn't get published, but we probably were excited about it.
But you get back, you killed. So let me just
quickly quickly, quickly, quickly shout out all of the city
very quickly. Uh So, Portland Seattle, San Francisco, Vancouver, Boston, Philly,

(01:25:06):
d C, Dallas, Houston. I'm sorry DC and Houston we
ended up canceling. Dallas were so sorry. Um, we will
be back and all the shows were so much fun
and we had a true blast and so we'll be
back very soon. We'll be back. Okay, But this is
I don't think so, honey, Matt, I have one. Do
you have one? Um? I do have one? Okay, why
don't you start this one? Okay? Cool, Okay, this is
Matt Rogers. I don't think so many time starts now.

(01:25:27):
I don't think so, honey, that everyone I've ever hooked
up with in my life gets uh literally the hottest
um face and body two and a half years later.
But this is a phenomenon that is happening to just me. Unfortunately,
I have an affliction where I am sort of like
Dane Cook and good Luck Chuck, but instead of getting married,
you get an incredible face and body that you do

(01:25:48):
not have prior. Um. This does not go to This
is not saying that you were not attractive at the time.
It's just that after you hook up with me, approximately
twenty four months later, you will be the hottest person
of all time, a model like Linda Evangelie stuff. I
don't think so, honey, that this is happening. I don't
like that I am magic, but I am. I'm sort
of like Harry Budini and will kill me one day.

(01:26:10):
Of course Harry Hoosini famously and incorrectly died and um
magic accident. Yes, UM, I support people becoming hot uh
in their life, but it frustrates me. I think we
should time this out better. If you're gonna hook up
with me, you should be hot now. UM. I promised
to stay the same um seven that I am now

(01:26:32):
and that's one minute. So you better not hook up
with mount unless you're at your fucking peak. Well, I
feel like here's the thing. It's just frustrating because some
something like I'll see someone I hooked up with, like
in Outside of the year two thousand and eleven, and
I see them now and I'm like, oh you are, Um,
you've made a deal with the devil. Okay, I want
to know, can you can you well believe we can

(01:26:52):
bleep this out? Um, I'll tell you off, my okay,
tell me off. But literally I just scrolled through my
phone and it's like maybe this is just the disease
of Instagram and every ones like like like just posting
only good to them. But it's shocking what happens when, um,
you hook up with me, because years later in your life, um,
you will be Samahi beautiful. That's and that's the that's

(01:27:14):
the end, that's the end point. Anyway, that's my I
don't think so. I love that. I'm sorry, but you
know what, You're in a beautiful relationship now, Yes, And
I love my man and I am and I love
with him. That's good. I remain so so safe. I
just said I'm in love with him, and you go,
that's good, that's great. I'm really happy for you. Um

(01:27:41):
felt me. Well, I basically, oh, well, actually I should
have done my I don't think so, honey to Ryah,
who still pop? You on the goddamn wait list? And
let's well we have our theories about why. Yeah, well,
I'm very upset they wait listed me. They are still
wait listing me. And miss Phoebe Robinson is she's still
wait It was well she was wait listed for a while.

(01:28:01):
Well now she's got a great now she's in a
great relationship. But um, you know is something's going on.
Something might be going on there, Riya, I don't know, um,
But anyway, this is bone I don't think so. And
the thing about bone NS, I don't think so, honey,
is his time starts now? I don't think so, honey.
The casual way we are talking about coronavirus, I mean
it's both being sensationalized to completely completely be driven by

(01:28:26):
it's it's it's capitalizing on fear, and it's also in
this weird way like twisting it, where it's like, okay,
but the casualties that are happening all across Asia don't
really matter, and it's completely trivial. Literally, my cousin is
in Wuhan right now. He's a journalist. He went with
a bunch of doctors from Leon. He is at risk

(01:28:47):
and it's really shaking up my family. And it's like,
oh yeah, so you guys should all just remember that
there are real fucking human beings who are going into
these insane, insane, insane environments and settings and in their
lives on the line to like try to fix this.
It's gonna get a little worse before it gets better.
But I promise and I hope and I pray that
it will all end soon. But you guys have to

(01:29:08):
stop casually like making fucking jokes about like wearing dumb
face masks and ship and like it's so sad to
me and truly this is weird. But like it's tough
to like bring this up in certain settings where I
would you would think that, like the humanity wouldn't be

(01:29:28):
lost on certain people, but it's it so is, and
like close friends of mine just are are We're just
are so quick to like again trivialize it. And I'm like,
you guys, well, it's racism, and it's it's I don't
I believe that for a lot of people, it's not
conscious racism, but that's racism. It's ingrained. And so basically

(01:29:49):
because this is happening in a world where like we
said before, it's the reason why you know, this is
very trivial to mention in the same breath as this,
But it's like why we're not recognizing like people from
the parasite cast who should be it's because there is
a facelessness. And when it's part of Western culture, is
you completely wash out and humanize a part of the world.
There's something that goes on in like the sort of

(01:30:12):
colonized brain, let's say, where you just don't register an
Asian face, like dying or being a good actor. Right,
it's it's it's it's why it's honestly, it's why the attacks,
the atom bombs, that's why it's like, let's talk about it.
And yes, and here's the fundation. I'm gonna get fucking
real for just a quick little second. The people who

(01:30:35):
fucking say that all I do is play Asian characters
on SNL. It probably has to do with the fact
that I'm Asian, But the fact that you guys think
that all I do is play Asian characters as a
joke means that you think that being Asian is an
unusual character trait. So it collapses down to you seeing
me on screen and going, well, that person is weird

(01:30:56):
because they're Asian, I guess, and that's all that this
person can do. Fuck off. It is a bad faith
thought for you to think. It's just a bad faith
argument for you to think, well, bone doesn't have the range,
But that's because you're selectively choosing to look at the
parts where it has happened to have, like, like the

(01:31:17):
characters that I play have happened to do with my race?
Does that make sense? Yes, of course it does. I
think that that there's a lot of examination that could
happen right now on this moment, like and I really
think that, like like it's it's sometimes like it feels
like there's an opportunity right now for people to step

(01:31:40):
back and not feel like attacked or offended because like
these things are being called out, but it's like these
things need to be examined and my words, because it's
it's it's it's very real what Bone is saying, and
my words examine them. So I'm in that, as I've
said to miss Matt Rodgers, but I wanted to this is,
this is, this is. But also I want to make
clear I mean basically passed it. I'm a little deader

(01:32:03):
inside than I was before, and so it's not really
getting to me anymore. I'm truly that well, you left Twitter,
I left. These people are in my but my sort
of the thing that I keep reminding myself going forward
is I'm like, oh, well, people out there have septic
tanks for brains, and it's not my business to like
try to like mold that poop water into like actual

(01:32:23):
Gray Manner. Look anyway, the world, the world, she cray
and gonna have to keep my distance, Gonna have to
keep my diston's on that one. I'm gonna have to
call out that to call out. But the good news
is is back to give you a healthy mix of
what is football and fuck you for being racistic that

(01:32:47):
those are truly the two poles of this show. Um Uh,
We're so happy to be back. We're so having back,
so excited to be back. We're so we were on fire.
We're on fire. We love, love love our new friends
at I Heeart, our new family. Um and we have
a very good feeling about this. Oh, we've got such
good episodes coming up. Let's just say that the episodes upcoming. Baby,

(01:33:10):
we got Nicole Buyer, we got Gayly Admit, we got
a Bryant and back to you next month. And maybe,
just maybe, Bone and I will stick a couple of
these solo episodes in there. I think that there would
be It would feel good to hear us get a
little bit topical every now and I like that, and
I just like the kids that you know, just the

(01:33:31):
tone of these is a little more looser, yes, and
we love the culture catch up and we love enjoy
doing them. Sometimes during speaking and exchanging cultural ideas with
my friend, you can you can stumble upon truth. You
didn't know that you felt. I love that beautifully. I'm
gonna have to reward that one. Gonna have to know,
we kind of have to confirm the wording on that one.

(01:33:53):
I loved lock it in on that one. Here's the thing.
We end up with the song. We end every episode
with a song. RS B City? Why do I want
to be a supy R S B City? Dozy? Oh,
we didn't even talk about the Jennifer Hudson Andreath the trailer.
It's good, we'll talk about it. Bye bye,

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