"I Love Locations" (w/ Ana Fabrega & Julio Torres)

Spooky season! It's here. Haunted houses are jamming up, the wind is howling and Los Espookys is back on HBO. Ana Fabrega & Julio Torres, the creators of the program, join Matt & Bow to discuss casting Kim Petras as the U.S. Secretary of State, how "And Just Like That" is truly international, music video acting, being in your "circus era", the reality of directing, the spectacle that is The Press Tour and how modern weddings should have more drama. Also, treatises on the status of television, the taste of medicine and the dexterity of statues. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Look man, oh, I see you? Why why and look
over there? How is that culture? Yes? Goodness, ding Dong
lost culture. Okay, I have to say I was going
to try something like I was gonna do it with
a deep voice, but then I chickened out of the
last second and go ding Dong law school Jerusale's calling.

(00:25):
I thought it might be funny, but then I chickened
out of the last second. What does that say about me?
It means it's spooky season. So you wanted to spool,
wanted to scare me, but then you were scared yourself.
Kind of officially fall, there's no way of saying it's
officially fall. So autumn vibes definitely spooky, scary in the air, etcetera.

(00:46):
Haunted houses are definitely packing up. Um those actors are employed,
thank god, thank god, and wait all year for the
season to scare and spook. Do you think I do
you think there are swings that haunted houses, like there's
a there's a there's an understudy for you know, Freddy
Krueger or something. Legally, they I think there has there
has to be. I think legally, I hope, I hope

(01:08):
they're unionized. If the Haunted House workers aren't unionized, then
we need to start getting on that. Then Halloween is
cancer period. Then Halloween is canceled. If I don't know
that my girls, my fellow actors, my community are safe
in their place of work, because when they come out,
think about how physical it is for them to get up,
like poke behind a curtain like this, so physical. Oh
my god, you just said, readers, you didn't see that.

(01:29):
But Matt just kind of kind of mind poking out
of curtains. I think there was curtains. Tell me this
isn't what it's like in a haunted house. Tell me
it's not. Yeah, no, for sure, And I'm not even joking.
This doesn't even a bit like they need to be
protected because you never, because because never is an audience
more hostile in a performance setting then in a haunted

(01:53):
house where they were like where these people kind of
have permission to be like ah and like hit you.
I'm so shy too that every year rolls around and
we don't hear more about guests sort of striking back.
It's like it's truly, if anything, that the Haunted House
employees are more in danger than the actual guests. You

(02:14):
know what I mean it's on bowen because also they
have the knowledge of where to go if something does
go wrong, like the like you know what I'm saying,
they can see everything, like you know what I mean,
Like these guests are just sort of flailing through. God awful,
just awful, and it's so scary to think about. Well, um,

(02:35):
I didn't even mean to bring this up as uh,
sort of leading into our guests a sort of segway
if you will, But God, do you ever have one
of those shows where you go, oh, I wish that
would come back, but then you go, oh, I wish
that would have been off COVID? Well a story like COVID.

(02:56):
Let me tell you something. It's never been told like
this before these have been through. We're gonna talk about that.
We're gonna talk about this with our friends, our guests.
We're gonna make them relive their their professional trauma, live
on their on lost culturing stuff. It's gonna be really
really cool. Really was the first moment of like, oh no,
this is really this is a this is a global thing.

(03:19):
Where are when when it affected losest bookies? We know, Okay,
this has gone COVID has gone international, has crossed hemispheres
has gone down south to Chile. It attacked the production. Well,
the faith they say about COVID is it attacks productions
first and then it goes out from there. But it's

(03:39):
the virus is becoming very intelligent and it wants to
have our favorite shows, productions, the smartest favorite shows. It
wants to It wants to destroy our favorite shows from
the inside out. That's what they're saying now. Ms. Rochelle Wilenski,
Um of the CDC, she just came out and said that.
She said, I didn't I didn't know who was leading

(04:00):
the CDC. Good for you for keeping up with Zelenski.
But I believe it's pronounced. You know what I'm saying,
as w's off and our again, this is an international thing. Um.
But here's the thing. Here's the thing about Lost of
Spookies And for people like me who gets sort of scared,

(04:21):
this is more funny than scary, you know what I mean.
Like this show, it's really more funny than scary. It's
like the Haunted Mansion that doesn't the world. It's like, yeah,
of course the like presents us like spooky is scary,
but really it's really more funny it's really more funny
for me. But this is the thing is that the
things that they are asked to do on that show

(04:41):
bec says huge fan TVH. I mean, I'm sure she's
she's a person who likes, who has tastes good things.
In this week's episode, you had our four principles hanging
from fucking crazy racks on in a graveyard. I said,
this is watch the goal. This is a practical effect

(05:03):
that we're not seeing in other things. You know, my
biggest problem with Marvel is it's not you know what
I mean, Like when they go out to space. I
would like to see that, but not be like that's
a card, damn cards, you know what I mean. Like
my girls were really truly hanging in the show. Yeah,
I want to see more of that, more practical. My
girls were dressed in a sea monster costumes, sitting on

(05:26):
a runting a rock in the middle of the ocean
while the waves crashed. I actually found that to be scary,
Like I was watching it. I was watching it and
I was like, okay, take myself out of knowing that
it's more funny than scary, Like and just was like
in a world where like I'm walking into this and
I don't know. Am I scared? And I saw the
sea creature and I was scared for sure, a little
bit like if I saw that in real life. Forget it,

(05:48):
forget it. We need, we need, we need, we need
to bring them in. This is so exciting. Yeah, so
they can explain how they achieve all of this great stuff. Absolutely,
it really is an incredible show. If you if you
aren't already watching its Loss Bukie season two, are the
the our guests, are the co creators of this wonderful,
wonderful program. When you said, hbl baby, it's not TV,

(06:10):
it's low spo. There you go. Everyone, please welcome and
a brea Hi. The last time you guys came on,
Do you guys remember this was when I'm in the
mistake of calling Poppy Juice a circuit party. I remember that.
I remember that. And then and then they reached out

(06:31):
and they were like, what why did you say that?
And I was like, I don't know. I don't know
what circuit parties are, but now I do. Now you know,
what do you prefer? I think that's similar to like
if someone said that you do skits. No not even
It's like said that I do. If someone said that
I do ad libs, oh s, that's that. That's that

(06:54):
ad libs show. If they called Saturday Night Live a review,
like there's a popular weekly review. Yeah, that's it's like that.
It's like that. It's like that anyway. Not a circuit party, Well,
these are two party animals. How do you define a
circuit party? A circuit party is the circuit party is

(07:16):
a party that travels. There's literally a circuit there's like
there's like a circus well kind of and like Dumbo,
like I don't want to go to a circus party
for real. Like if they cleared out all the animals
and just let you party in the circus area, that
could be fun as heck, like and they maybe like
you jump on the trampolines and stuff. And this is
assuming that there's trampolines at the circus. I don't know.

(07:36):
I haven't been in a long time, but I feel
like that's one of those things. I feel like that's
one of those high concept ideas that sounds really fun
on paper and then logistically it's it's just not fun.
Do you guys think I want I want to put
a question to the group, is it possible to have
a circus themed party that is not heterocepxtual and aesthetic, Like,
is it possible to clear a circus party in the

(07:58):
look and the feel of it? I think I'm fortunately yes,
but in but in a way that we wouldn't enjoy it,
because it's like Joak and Booster says, like a Great
Gatsby party will always away, always frustraight, no matter what.
That is correct. Also the same goes for a Madman party. Yes, yeah,

(08:19):
but also we don't need to do those parties. No,
it's true. No, I absolutely agree. I said, but if
if it were to come to that that someone's held
gun into your head said you need to throw a
queer circus party, which you could do? You think that's possible,
Julio saying yes, but yeah, but it would be lame,
it would be I think I think that, like I

(08:41):
So the other night I found myself going to Union Pool,
which I haven't been to since college dangerous, and it
was like, oh, yeah, like these people need a gimmick.
They need a little taco truck in the back. They
need like little tickets to get their pizza. Gets for pizza,

(09:03):
and the tickets for drinks. It's like, can we bypass this?
Like what is the tickets of it? All? They need?
They need like, oh, it's really good because it's like
when you get a drink, they give you a little
ticket and then you get the pizza and it's just
like wow, you really need just task. You need a
task because each other's companies is not fa filion enough.

(09:24):
Oh no, you think so? You think that's what it says.
I think so yeah, wait, I think I know a
way to clear the circus party. You have the animals,
they're just sort of running them up. Sure, yeah, then
I think that circus party has become queer. Yeah, okay,
that's good. I mean, and I think we've we've talked

(09:48):
about this at at length, but I can't remember if
in public forms were privately but like about how every
cloth starre unfortunately months go space circus. So the circus Harris,
some of them are stuck in it, like pink right,
like profess what we're stuck in it? But cups must
go through a circus era because it plays with like

(10:13):
and that is that is when the pop starts coming
to terms with like feeling like a like a caged animal,
feeling like you know, it's just there to entertain feeling
like because it's it's very akin to like tears of
a clown, like I'm here for you, but like who's
here for me? Sort of like and then it's either

(10:35):
that or they go the other. They go with the
more aggressive route of grappling with their fame, which is
themes of surveillance like hands like get out of my face.
It's like yeah, it's like cameras everywhere. Uh So it's like, yeah,

(10:55):
it's one or the other. It's either like you take
take on those themes with sad this which its circus,
or with aggression, which is But every every pop star
does have a song about like the perils of fame
in a way that like I was listening to I
don't know if you've listened to like MO plus. Yeah,

(11:16):
so there's some new songs and one of them is
about like, yeah, going outside with a hoodie and sunglasses,
hope no one sees me paparazzi TMZ. And it's like
even Resale has got one. It's like they all have
to have the like this is me suffering for you, yeah, yeah,
comments on my public pain, right, even like the York.

(11:36):
But The York's was about divorce, like if if you
if you bypass, if you avoid circus or surveillance, then
your fate is written in stone, which is you will
write a divorce album, like Kelly Clarkson is about to
release her divorce album The York How to Be how
to Divorce album, Like there's no escape like these are

(11:56):
this is the maze And if Kelly Clarkson and b
York are both doing it, that's how you know. Truly
it's just truly international, which is which is the title
of app Truly International. I would I would say that
there's three eras, and I think the surveillance era sort
of sort of like is one of the sub genres
of one of these three. There's three. It's circus and

(12:19):
whatever fun you can have in the circus, there is
general dark. I'm unhappy and that can be for many
different reasons, one of which one of the top reasons
is surveillance perazzi, I can't live my life. And then
the third era that every pop star goes through is
of course Christmas slash Holiday. So once they've hit all
three actually have to be killed. They have this is interesting,

(12:44):
So you're saying that Christianity cannot be avoided. I don't
think so. In in, I don't think it can be. Yes,
we are living in a commercial, capitalist society, and therefore,
even if you do not have a connection to Christmas,
you do have to participate in it because it's a checkbox.

(13:07):
And you know this is probably their labels deciding or
whoever the hell, but you must at least pretend that
you decorate a treat. I can't wait for Arcas Christmas album.
I can't wait for our Game and Rosalia's Christmas album.
Christmas album is literally coming, yeah, I think, yeah, yeah.

(13:27):
The Spaniards love Christmas spinnings. I love Christmas. I literally
I was studing student. I were in Mayorka trying to
heal a cab and then like one of the caps
like sped off. We were waiting in line with some
people and then one of these girls, I think she
was local, she was like one of the girls just
screamed mommy, and it kind of was really fun to
hear out in the wild. I was like, oh, yeah,

(13:48):
like it's international. Why did I think this was just
I'm I'm stupid and thinking that this was only something
people in New York were listening to this international sound
is very New York whatever, It's stupid. Wait does LOSAs Spookies?
Is lois Spookies in Chile? Does it? Is there a
place in Chile for people to watch it? HBO Max,

(14:11):
isn't Chile? Great? Yeah? We know that in just like
that plate and Chia we know about while you were aware. Yeah,
the crew knew which idea was. Yeah, they were like,
They're like, the obsession and the fascination with D is
international and it's coming from the same place emotionally. Yeah,

(14:36):
everyone's shocked. Everyone shocks and yeah, yeah, well did you
see um the table ideas? Like there was there was
a picture of D as a script on the table
read and it really filled me with anticipation. I can't
even describe. I love an actor of posting a table
read pick. Yes, exciting coming together? Who knows what for

(15:05):
me this season? Did you guys? Did you guys do
table rates for season two? H right? Yeah it was
at Yeah, okay, So then what we were talking about
earlier before we brought you guys on is I will
never ever forget the face time call that we were

(15:25):
all on and I don't know I don't know if
you were in the bedroom with Julia was in the
bedroom with Sam Taggert and like Greta and like every
you guys were all in CHILEA and you guys were
you guys like yeah, we're all flying back tomorrow, like
mar They were like we don't know, like what customs
is going to be, like like it's crazy, like that
was that was like that was a really low moment

(15:49):
for I don't know his stream human history, but like
people I think and like and like like our our friends,
I think everyone being like oh did you hear like
Lusi's like they're all having to fly back in Chile
was hard for our friends going through productions. COVID hit
hardest with those of us m artists that were commis productions.

(16:17):
Very sad to me, were you okay? What so that was?
Mark was in New York. I was just in New York.
I remember faced hiding and then like yeah. It was
like Taggart and gret At being like this is this
is really crazy. We were like on the fence about
like what should we do? Do we wait? And once
border started closing, we were like we gotta get home now. Otherwise,

(16:40):
oh my god, and Sam Taggard became patient zero for
Oh yeah, Sam was our sort of like that's a
final straw, no more wait and see because he had
been at a show in New York and uh got
a call once he was back in Chile that he
was exposed to COVID and then we were called from

(17:01):
Comedy Central. So much. This was when you guys returned
this like we have to stop. It's here, it's too close.
It's among us. Yeah, it's among them to have comedy

(17:23):
sant Haggard to be a Comedy Central has brought COVID
toilet negative. But it was like, okay, so Sam might
have this like new Byras none of us know anything about. Yeah,
it was like it was like the thing of the

(17:46):
like one of the big reasons I might be wrong
on this, so nobody quote me, but it was one
of the big the big pathways of it going from
China to Italy was like people sat Taggard, it was
Sam's happen because they bring in new talent from that

(18:09):
It's never been seen before from Italy industry. Why no,
what what? What? What do you think? It was? It
was people? It was people going to fashion week in
Milan it was like fall fast in Milan in March
or whatever it was, people like were hanging out in
Shanghai or whatever the funk and then going to Italy

(18:31):
and then people from Italy taking it to New York.
That was like the sort of because he did follow
the trail is very fashion. It's very that a fashion. Yeah. Yeah,
and again the fact that it got to the least
fashionable places last, Yes, that's to arrive because yes, it's

(18:58):
so far, but then Red States took a while for
them to get hit because fashion fashion, we kind of
made it there. Yet the biggest successory. Yeah wait, yeah,
what we're gonna say about Santiago, Like it just took
a while. Yeah, it took a while. And then it
was the thing where like once cases started popping up,

(19:20):
it was rich people that had been traveling that had
come back. Yeah, okay. I feel like this season on
a SPOOKI is like you're really seeing like, um, Santiago, shine,

(19:40):
wealth or whatever you're You're you're seeing like a big
house in the hills and like like like um like
Tatti Tati's house. Um is yes, the houses and Sheila,
It's so funny. Rich people in Santiago love Marilyn Monroe,

(20:02):
And so when we scout, every house has like happy
pop art Marilyn Monroe paintings and like basements that are
decorated for the kids, that have like fax panels of
like big crowds. It like it's a very strange. There
was truly that mural with a circuit party. Actually, Like
there was one that had a crowd that had like

(20:24):
hands up in the air and it was like three
kids in the basement. Wow, when are we going to
hear her story? You know? Yeah? Out what was really
going on there? Do you guys feel like a location
scout is sort of the best kind of way to
see a place is to really learn about it. When

(20:47):
I travel, I look for location scouts so I can
doesn't really know a place. Yeah, I always make I
always be sure to like cook up with a location scout. Honestly, Yeah,
that's a hot job. I took a her. He's a
location scouting things craft, he's going to go. I worked
with a with a location scout on a different thing

(21:08):
here in New York, and I was interviewing location scouts
and I like didn't truly like how do you get
tommal conversation whether or not it's almost going to be
a good location scout right. Oh yeah. And I was
talking to her and she said, and I quote, I
love locations. Yes, you told me about her. Oh, she

(21:35):
will be in my life for the rest of my life.
And I love her. I love her the best place
to go. I adore her. Hy Elizabeth says, I love locations.
That that is really that is really meaningful because then
that means that like she loves all of it, right,

(21:55):
she loves going to places. She loves figuring out where
should go and the locations within a location, you know,
Like that that is a real skill. Like I don't
ever walk into a place and like you get a
feel for like the layout or like the traffic patterns
of it all. Like that's a very hard concern. I
feel like I'm always like underestimate what it takes to

(22:19):
make something happen in the place, and I like walk
into like uh, like some there's always a time in
pre production, whether the Loves the Spookies or anything where
I'm like, uh, what if we just do it there
in that corner, like whether everyone's like no, everyone's like no,
don't you see how that's And you're like I really don't. Yeah,

(22:39):
I'm like, well, what if you clear these asks and
we do it here in the office. But you know,
you know what I think about is that the people,
the people who have to put up the signs, who
have to tape up pieces of paper in these locations
and arrows to the bathroom, arrows to like crafty Like,
I'm like, that is like, I can't. I don't think

(23:01):
that way. I feel like that's a very that's a skill.
But how But you're saying, like, how do you know
how if someone's good at locations unless they say I
love Yeah, anyway, you also have a passion for staying
someplace and seeing it and then also going somewhere else
and seeing that place and staying there and being able.

(23:22):
And you know it's all about totality. Yeah, it's all abity. Well,
I think this season is perfect already and I can't
wait for more. My girl, Kim Petris is in it.
Kim is playing the Secretary of State, the secret Melanie's boss.

(23:46):
She's US ambassador. Melody Gibbons is boss Kim Petris in
her acting debut. I want to say, wow, Well, it
depends whether you consider music videos acting because so much.
So much what happens in film and television also happens
in music videos, such as hitting marks such as giving

(24:06):
emotional intention. So is music video acting acting? I think
you have to answer that question Bowen before you ask,
is this Kim Patriss's acting debut? I think I think,
case by case, I think that sometimes it's an extension
of performing. Sometimes they do see it as like, oh,
I'm making a short film and I have lines like

(24:29):
if like if we're talking like totally like what's there
a Katy Perry music video where she's like an old
lady makeup and she's like the one that got away
looking at a box of memories. She's she's extremely old woman.
In fact, the makeup artist probably did a little too

(24:50):
much house. Yeah, she looks maybe like the oldest woman alive.
She's in the future house and she looks through an
old box and then she flashes back to being young
Eaty Perry, and then only then it only matter she
able to tell the story. That's the device. Okay, see,
that's that's acting period. Yeah. But what I would argue,
if there's no dialogue, they don't have to memorize dialogue.

(25:13):
Dialogue video it's like, what are you thinking about? Nothing?
You thinking about the one that got away? Sure? Anna.
On that note, I was gonna say that it's not
acting if the person is singing or lip syncing to
the words, But it is acting when it's cutting to

(25:35):
them and there's music playing, but they're not making any
shapes with their mouth that they're To me, the hardest
kind of acting in a music video potentially is when
they just have to like like you know, like like
like look, like emote, do something, you know, like kind
of like you're supposed to like get a peek into
your interior world or something, and they're just sitting there

(25:57):
and they're just kind of like frowning or smiling or
you know, doing or just holding an emotion. Does that
make sense? Yeah? I think I mean that that is acting,
of course, But I would still argue that the dialogue
thing is a big difference, a big differentiator, because someone
who hasn't memorized dialogue before getting you know, sheets of paper,
that's like you have to memorize this. I think it's

(26:19):
very like, oh gosh, yeah, I can feel overwhelming um
and then having to like perform it, you know, not
just do you know it, But can you act the
way you did in your music video? While you say
these words, you should you should teach a class that
is for pop stars learning how to act? And oh,
I would love to n y U as an adjunct

(26:40):
professor acting. I think a lot of I think a
lot of the pop girls would go back and take
that class because I think a lot of them are
interested in acting clearly, I mean you see them all
out here. I mean not just Kim, I mean moving
beyond that. How many? What is the best pop star
acting performance? What is it? I guess share I think objectively, Yes,

(27:07):
yes I have something if you count for yes, yes,
I have a question another question, but I guess it's
what's the best pop star acting performance in a music video?
M and I have I have I have a bad answer,
but it's an answer that I will stand by for now.
It is It is Britney Spears and every time and

(27:34):
Lucky See Lucky. Lucky is really good because it's more
camp and it's more just like ticks you on a ride,
like she's having fun with it, and every time she's
trying to be dropped in and give you again peek
into her surveiled world. That's the one which she reincarnates, right, Yes,
that's the baby at the end. Yeah, well, every time
where she watches herself, she watches herself die, she watches

(27:56):
herself die. She gets into a huge fight with her
boyfriend and they barge into the huge mansion together and
she like throws ship. He kicks the lamp and she's
like yelling at him, like it's really raw. I actually
have what I think is a very close to correct
answer for this, and it's Rihanna in the Stay music video,
because it's just her in the tub and she just

(28:17):
sits in the tub the whole time. It's a wonner.
It's one shot of her in the tub, and she
only she only sings the lyrics sometimes the rest of
his or her sort of just as Bone was saying,
like sitting there and sort of living the song. And
then at the end she does like sing early lip
sync the end of it, and the very last shot
as her sinking into the tub, but you just see
her tears start to fall down and she just looks exhausted,

(28:40):
and I'm like, yeah, I mean, you can't tell me
this wasn't acting in this moment. I mean, she Rihanna
she gets out of her own way enough to access
an acting ability, whereas I think a lot of pop
stars get in their head about the fact that they

(29:01):
are acting with dialogue whatever it is, and then they
stop acting the second may stop singing, like you know
what I mean, like like it's so it's interesting, who's
a bad actor? They approach it the way they approach
lip syncing, which is you have to make it over
the top and whatever because you're not you know so,
So then they bring that same energy to acting and

(29:23):
then it feels like, oh gosh, you're trying so hard
to act. Like Kim was really good at she played
someone who really believed the words that she was saying. Yeah, Kim,
Yeah Kim, and good stuff. Yeah. They're so funny together,

(29:47):
and the friends now love it. They like hang out
the New Paris and Nicole. I think, I think the
power that Kim, Fachris and Gratis Heidelman could wield would
be very, very very ense. It would be very immense.
I really I had to write down the line because
I think it's I think it's I think I think

(30:08):
I get I think it's it's very representative of the
show in some way. But I don't know how. But
in the first episode of this season, I wrote down
Oliver Twigs like the movie was an important is an
important character that I hope an important character? Really? Yeah yeah,

(30:30):
yeah yeah. He runs a graveyard but just buries the
bodies and doesn't is not responsible for them being buried
in the right place because on paper, what you've hired
him to do is to bury the bodies, and now
if you want to know where they are, well, I'm sorry,
that's not that's not on him. That to me is
like such a I don't know, like I've missed the

(30:52):
show so much because that. I don't know. I just
feel like that is so you guys in your sense
of humor and just there's no show making jokes like
that does none none. Isn't it weird that comedy shows
aren't like silly? I think it is weird. I think
it is one of the one of the weirdest things

(31:13):
is that comedy shows aren't funny. It's such a phenomenon,
like it's like not that I'm not going to directly
like quote unquote shade the same shade, etcetera, all those things,
but it's just like, oh, that was that's filed under comedy. Huh. Interesting,
I don't I never want I never want to watch
a comedy show. And at the end of that was

(31:33):
a good point, you know what I mean, I'd like,
I think that so many shows feel like they have
to do that is to make you walk away going huh,
I never thought about it like that, and you don't
have to or or or you know, like I don't,
I like I think that huh. I never thought about

(31:54):
it like that is so much better than finally, yes,
oh god, it's about damn time. It's about damn time,
or even do you guys agree with this, or even
to come away from a show and go, wow, that
was really well balanced. Unless it's like parasite, unless it's

(32:17):
like a movie that switches genres in the middle or something,
then yeah, then that's great. Then that's a very formal
thing like it honestly like it should be well balanced
if if it's that, But like sometimes people are like, like, oh,
well we were What we really wanted was for this
to be grounded, and it's like who is leaving something
and being like I loved how grounded it felt so real.
That felt just like my that felt just like my

(32:40):
boring life, except except the people on the screen have
like so much makeup and their teeth are so white,
and the up are insane, and all the women have
like fake eyelashes, just like my life. It's like my life.
It's an interesting thing though, because like I think, like
this weirdly does fall under the banner of like people
want to see themselves reflected. But it's like at a

(33:02):
certain points, like, yes, that is true, like in terms
of diversity, obviously, like everyone should be reflected, everyone should
be on screen. But it's like I don't necessarily want
to see like something that looks like my life on
screen because I know it's boring. Like I do want
to see like the white teeth version of myself say
these things because they can feel so much more entertaining
than I can as a regular viewer, Like I would

(33:23):
so much rather my avatar Sandra Bullock like do this
for me, Like I don't want to see my own
life up up screen. See, I really don't like the
way that everyone on TV, particularly comedies, look like they're
in a Capital one commercial. They all looks so like

(33:45):
we've seen it. All the sets are so like meat
and you know, like during the during the pandemic, like everyone,
like everyone on Planet Earth. I rewatched Sex in the
City and the first season of Sex in the City
the carry's apartment on the on the edge of her door,

(34:06):
you could see like fingers mudges, which is a very
real thing. It's like, oh yeah, like this person is
like opening the door and placing her hand there and
she hasn't repainted obviously, and it's and then it's like
asked the series, you know, morphs into what we have
that which isn't just like that. Everyone looks like they're
in like earned sky miles by like like like an

(34:32):
oral b commercial. Yes, yes, it's it's interesting because they
get the budget to do it and they get the
time and energy to do it. Because that's another thing
is it's just like a lot of these things like
like you you only have so much time to shoot it,
and you only have so much money, as you guys know,
And so that actually can be a strength when you're

(34:53):
like leading into the reality of something because just because
you have the time, budget, energy, money to do this,
like Sex in the City two point oh, doesn't necessarily
mean that that's what we wanted to see. Maybe we
wanted to see like, you know, these characters that have
inherent glamour because they're played by these actresses in situations

(35:13):
that feel a little bit more realistic that maybe that's
the thing. Yeah, It's like the set dressing or the
art direction starts to mimic the sort of like perfect
look of the actor whose hair is never going to
move at a place, whose clothes is like perfectly ironed,
and and then it all starts to feel like none
of it feels so uh like not lived in by

(35:36):
either performers or the sets. I love. I love a
wrinkly shirt on TV. I love a wrinkle shirt. I
love staink teeth. I'm always were to have a character
like in a cast or in crutches and like that
just like never goes addressed. Yeah, what they do to
their knee. Yeah, it's like they don't want to talk

(35:58):
about it. The stuff out about that and they live
in a world because because in reality, though, someone walking
around and crutches, you like, their friends would be like
what are you? Are you? Where do you get out
of those? I mean, but is that is that not
what you're saying though? Is that you're like they never
because like no, like if you no no, no, like

(36:20):
if if I would love like just the scene of
like you go to a party and someone at the
party has a cast and no one talks about it
because you don't know that person that yes, yes in
a very real way or like or like even just
like at an office, like like no one's ever pregnant,

(36:42):
and if they are, that's the point of the story.
No one's like actually pregnant, right right. Ah see, that's
great because sometimes they want to Like sometimes as an actor,
I want to walk onto a set and be like,
oh I had an idea, maybe I'm at yeah literally though,

(37:03):
and then and then everyone just kind of gives you
a look like well Jamie Lee Curtis and everything, everyone
at once has that sling on her. I don't know
whose idea that was, but I love that it was like, oh, yeah,
this person is a fully realized person out of this world. Yeah,
and she's probably very tense and like we sucked up
her arm in some way and you're not actually going

(37:26):
to talk about it, but it's like it's such a
telling detail. It was giving, like it was giving like
low impact stress fracture, you know what I mean. Someone
who one day and it's like she's it's like it
contributes to her anger and her the fact that like
she is on moving. You don't need to know why
she has that injury. It's just part of who she

(37:47):
is and part of how you're going to experience her
and how the characters are going to be treated by her.
You're right. I never thought about it like that, Like
it's it's a very good detail, like you see you
like sort of get her. Yeah, you know what I
saw the other night, I did go see you don't
worry darling um. By the way, I have friends who
are going to be the door don't worry darling prest

(38:10):
at their Halloween costume, but they always be together. Yeah,
would have the s on the other one. And then
about how whether or not it happened or not. I

(38:31):
felt like because we talked about it so much, I
owed it to the movie to go see it, and
like I did go see it, and what I think
is interesting about some some of these things, just like
my problem with the movie is like it's so obsessed
with being a social satire that it doesn't get that
what it really is and what it could have been
so much better is just a straight up thriller, like
these things don't have to be important, like especially when

(38:54):
we can tell what you're saying from this for a second,
it starts like the trailer. I was like, I've seen
the entire movie. After I saw the trailer, I know
exactly where this is going. I doubt yeah, yeah, And
it's like, why do we have another one of these?
Like actually, things are not as they seem, you know.
It's like, Okay, we've seen that movie a million times,

(39:17):
or like if that is going to be the movie,
then reveal it early and then let this movie become
something else like that. I guess that's that's the thing is.
It's like it's just so rare to see things genuinely
having fun like and and it because I get things
get tripped up in the well, what is it in
a macro sense? What are we saying of it all?

(39:40):
It's like sometimes you actually don't need to say anything.
It can just be you know, like fun. And I
guess that's what I like about. That's what I love
about LOSAs Spookies is like it feels like you guys
like break story with comedy first, and I really I
don't know if that's true, but for example, like in
the second episode Greta, Greta getting rid of her by

(40:04):
putting her in the lead bikini and having her jump
off the boat. That to me seems like, oh, this
is like a way to communically solve this problem. That's
completely liked. It's just like so many things are like
but but but but but and so heavy, and it's
just like, no, the audience will go along with you
whatever it is as long as it's fun, funny or

(40:24):
makes sense. You know what, I you know what movie
I keep thinking about that, I like watched it truly
is one of my favorite comedies now is back. For

(40:48):
so reason I keep thinking about it is because a
it's funnier than any comedy that's been done recently, true,
and I feel like it. It is sort of like
wiltely moving and it's a beautiful movie. It's a beautiful movie.
And it's like a celebration of just like everyday normal
people in like everyday normal places like it takes place

(41:11):
of like Gray Sky, Virginia rest stops that like like
places that you like don't want to set a movie is.
It just stays with you far more than any like
thing created by like eight writers Yes, it's just so
like carefree and fun. And I was like, oh, yeah,

(41:34):
like this is ideally what we get into this business
or it just makes something that's like it didn't I Like,
I don't think they were like, Okay, we need to
like have a point. I think that eric Andre's just
Eric Andre and who's just like incredibly funny. But then
they like accomplished so much more right because they leaned
in with what they were good at. Yeah, And I
just feel like, you guys with Fred is such a

(41:56):
nice It's such a perfect like match in terms of
like what what what he like like like like his
journey to get to this point in his career and
then you guys coming to meet him is like oh yeah,
Like the three of you aren't really not concerned with
importance in that sense of like it should be you
know what I mean important, it's like significance or like

(42:16):
you know, yeah, I mean imagine we were like, you guys,
this show is a queer lot X. You have to
watch Yeah, seeing it a lot, it's it's like, yeah,
I mean Julio has talked about this, like we've talked
about the sort of like you know, it's activism, like

(42:38):
watching our show is some form of activism or making
it a some form of activism, and it's like, no,
it's not, no, that's not consuming. Equating consumerism with activism
is the thing that like kills everything. It is like
a capitalist thing of it's so it's just exploits because
of course, I like people feel that need to quote

(43:00):
unquote do good and be a reactionary against like the
horrors of the world. That is like a beautiful instant
and for like all these media conglomerates to exploit that
and be like, okay, we hear you that, like all
these like really scary things are happening, like towards queer
people or whatever kind of people, is like, how about

(43:21):
you watch this? You stick it to the Supreme Court?
Like what are you talking about? Truly it's spooky, it's spooky.
But the thing too is like I guess the fact

(43:43):
being like, look, it exists. That already makes it like
if you need it to be this important, you know
what I mean. If you need it to be that,
then it is because it exists. But why but but
but is it good? You know what I mean? And
the fact is like like I would love to hear
that things are good first, you know what I mean.
Like example, like I feel like with the Woman King,
like the first thing I heard was this is really

(44:05):
really really good. And now I'm like watching the interviews
with like Viola Davis and everyone, and like they're talking
about how like cool it is that it's like an
all dark skinned black woman cast, international cast of women
all telling a story about like a shared history UM
and like telling the story that like maybe people didn't
know that like the Dora Milaj from Marvel was based

(44:26):
on this actual like warrior group of women UM from
the Dahomey. But like it's just it's just like the
first thing I heard was that it was good. The
first thing was not you better see this or we'll
never get another movie like this and it will be
your fault. And it's like, and this is why they

(44:47):
passed these laws because you don't see this film. It's yeah,
I think that the the like obsession with anything that
is not like assists white straight like narrative being like, well,

(45:10):
it's actually like so critical and important that you watch this.
It's like okay, but yeah, like you said, is it
good or is it because just because it has a
diverse cast writers or whatever. Doesn't mean it's good. It
could be. There's a lot of really bad shows with
diverse writers and you know one one doesn't like. I

(45:30):
don't know. I think at the end of the day,
it's still like, well, is what's the quality? Like Yeah,
that's almost why I feel like press tours almost don't
help sometimes, Like I don't think it helped. I don't
think it's helped a single. I don't think the press
tour has helped something I've seen in a long time.
Like I don't think the press store has made me

(45:51):
want to watch something more than just seeing the trailer
in a very long time. Like that's something I think
we need to maybe look at. I do think that
press stour should only be a trailer. I do agree
with that, and then let's talk about it afterwards, you
know what I mean. Of course, we understand how it works,
like you know, the star system, like you have to
trot out people, but at a certain point, it's like
you have to know it's not helping for one person

(46:12):
or two or three people from a movie to be
like in someone's face every single second of every single
day in the media landscape, that is so like black
and white, Like it's just it's kind of asking for
you know that don't worry Darling drama. Imagine deciding whether
or not you're gonna go watch a movie and being like, Okay,
I'm just gonna watch the behind the looks feature rent

(46:35):
Ye to decide to decide if I want to see this. Yeah,
it exists to like support each other. It's like these
media outlets think like, oh, we need to have yeah,
behind the scenes talks with the cast and crew or something. Um,
but it's like no one's really watching that. These are
YouTube videos that have like, you know, a thousand views

(46:57):
and like, but then they need to be able to
sell themselves to the places that making them to get
the money for doing you know, it's just like a
little self fulfilling like yeah, yeah, yeah, or imagine like
after all this, don't worry Darling Press were like, I'm
sort of on the fence about seeing the movie. I'm
gonna see how Olivia Wilde does on Kimmel. She has

(47:24):
the answers I want, then maybe I'll go buy a
ticket to this two hour plus movie. I checked the
reviews doesn't have good ones. Okay, yeah, this might be
the maker break this might be like just very gay
of me or very basic, but I feel like the
only press stores that have like made me want to
go see something I haven't live megas yeah, and like

(47:48):
but like I feel like people got sick of it.
For Gucci, people are like, oh god, like what is
what is the story? Now? She was haunted by a
ghost the press an Oscar campaign that's different. Yeah, those
are so hers and she had she had one where
dovetailed into the Oscars campaign and then when when she
wasn't winning Precursores, when she wasn't nominated, then ended it

(48:11):
kind of got truncated, which might have been a mercy,
but I feel like with it, like that is a
memorable press store that I think honestly did get people
to watch that movie. But also Stars First Stars. Yes,
that that worked because that timing wise worked with Gucci.
That ended with her not getting and she was nominated
for everything else. So I just think there is a

(48:34):
case to be made for having these people shut the
far group A great agree, But I did see I
actually saw Gucci, and I did not see a star
is Born feels right for you, though, I feel like
Gucci is screaming is Yeah, Starborn looked sleepy. You still
haven't seen Stars Born? No, just I don't think you're

(48:57):
missing out. Fine, that's fair, but I feel like Juli
should at least watched the first twenty minutes. You know
what I'm saying. You know, like that beginning is nice.
You need to get through. Why did you do that?
You need to get to where they get to SNL
they go to performs. She goes, wow, do you look
so good in those genes? You come around me with

(49:20):
Alice like that? You hear je You hear Jenner Rosatan
of the stage manager at SNL go okay, and we're
back in five for Alec and then Alec Baldwin goes
Ladies and Gentlemen once again, the show is Alec Baldwin
with musical guest Alid. No, you have to have to

(49:41):
get to that. You have to watch Stars Born. I mean,
and I understand what you're saying. I don't think. I
don't think that anyone would go like about their life
like being like I never saw it, but Julio has
to see it once? Yeah, yeah, because I was with
someone that wanted to watch it. It was not a
movie that I was had any interesting scene. So I

(50:02):
go to see it and um, and yeah, it was
just like Okay, here's this movie that it is taking
itself so serious. Yes it is so yeah, like you
can you can see Bradley Cooper off camera being like

(50:22):
you know, and it's just like yeah, I was like,
this movie is not for me. Yeah it was this
was this what your directorial style was? Yeah, what's the
best way to capture the obsession? I also I hate

(50:42):
movies that were like so much of the marketing it
for it is I guess what the actor directed, you know,
and it's like, Okay, fucking caresfle directed? Like who cares?
Has it been annoying for you to talk about this season?
Because I'm sure people are asked, well, but I was
going to say that it is like think, actually really
funny to realize that that is directing. I think that's

(51:07):
actually really funny and really do yeah, because that's the
directing in But anytime an actor like directs and then
it's like wow, like you know, like now it's some
sort of like tortured artist thing of like I'm the director.
So now it's like yeah for me, like that's what

(51:28):
I can't stand. And I felt like a star was born.
So much of the marketing was like, you know, shots
of Bradley Cooper on set and there's like a crane
and it's like a really high yeah. I also love
BTS photos of directors in this era because it's always
them like with like a ship shirt on, like the
COVID masks, like a little bit of skew under their nose,

(51:49):
and then pointing at something with a hand on their
hip you know what I mean. I just that signaling
and the crane to the crane has to be yes,
absolutely yeah wild and I get up like Bradley. They

(52:10):
asked me I had to I had to approve pictures
of me directing. And I was like, do we have
to do these? And they were like, um, They're like
you know, yeah, Like can you pick some of these?
I was like, okay, I'll pick two pictures and it
is they want me with the mask with the actors,
you know, gesturing I was working. I have proof, like

(52:30):
like if you ever have to point, like there's there's marks.
We we all know what it is. Like, Yeah, pointing
is directing. That's a real culture, real culture. Number pointing
is pointing directing. I wouldn't drink I feel like it's
really such a hard job. Um, I don't know. I
I feel like it's one of those things where I
have too much respect for it to do it myself

(52:51):
because I feel like I would not rise to the occasion.
What about you, Matt, I want to do it. I
feel like it's been domestified a little bit for me,
and that makes maybe a little bit more interesting, I think.
I I similarly, it had this kind of like mystique
of like, oh wow, I don't know if I can
do that, and then once you realize what it is,
it's like, oh, okay, no wonder Olivia Wild is director.

(53:13):
No one. It's like it's not that you know, I'm
just using that as an example. No shape of to
you know, directors, But it's something that it's almost like
directors don't want other people to know that, Like it's
not it's not the most difficult thing in the world
to direct, Like, um, yes there's art to it, Yes
there's skill, etcetera. Um, but it's not fucking brains, you know.

(53:36):
Mostly what it is is just making decisions. Yes. Yes.
The thing the thing about directing that I think makes
me the most nervous is like making sure things are
managed well, which but that's not really your job that
lean into that. But but let's say let's say, like

(53:57):
on like a dirt Worry Darling, like if like ship
is crazy and and that's maybe why Olivia is getting
some and I'm sorry, I'm sorry we're talking about this
this much, but like that's why Olivia is getting some
flack for like not making not keeping it professional and
like male directors do this all the time too, and
all this stuff, but like making sure like the environment
is is nice. And that's why, like David O. Russell,

(54:19):
I have no respect for his style of directing where
it's like, oh, you're a tyrant. You make people feel bad,
like I hate, like I feel like, yeah, yeah, I
mean you do set the tone right, like the directors
huge and setting the tone of the set um that's
definitely an important part of it. But yeah, sometimes I'm
not sure, like, Okay, is it entirely the director's fault

(54:43):
if it's bad on set or is also maybe an
executive producer that's there, that's you know what I mean, Like,
like as someone who's seen don't Worry Darling, now, like
all her departments were perfect, like the fucking makeup was stunning,
the hair was stunning, the shots were incredible, Like it
was all great. It just came down to the script

(55:04):
wasn't good and it was and there was no vision,
which which ultimately, like the director has to have a
vision and they have to be able to make decisions
that point towards that vision. What's hard about it is
that there are so many areas where something can go wrong,
So if you make the incorrect or wrong decision in
one area, it can derail the whole thing. So you

(55:26):
do have to have good instincts, and you have to
be firm in those instincts and be a good collaborator.
But ultimately, like it's about vision and making decisions that
work toward that that vision, and you can make the
decision of the time correctly, which I think like in
this case she did, but then like the other ten

(55:47):
percent can be so wrong that it doesn't even matter.
That's I think what's hard about directing is that, like,
ultimately it's all on you and those decisions, like, and
you can have a great team, but if one area
that's major, like the script isn't right, then it doesn't
matter a famously major areas, Yeah, yeah, I know. It's
like there there are movies where it's like, Okay, that

(56:09):
was well made, but the script was bad, right, and
it's like it's very hard to separate one from the
other one. Okay, you did your job well, Like imagine
you get the shitty script to director, like, well, I'm
gonna do my best job to direct it as well
as I can. The script is bad, so the end
products will not be great because good directing can only
make up for so much of that writing. Um, and yeah,

(56:31):
but but but if it's like written and directed by
the same person, then it's like, okay, then you kicked up.
Well I want to I want to say something that
has it's like fully a segue out of this topic
that I it's It's an anecdote that I heard about
recently that I keep thinking about and I don't knowunced
about this is that apparently Alfred Hitchcock uh would uh

(56:53):
would go to restaurants and he would order a lot
of food, and all the courses would come. He would
finish eating, then he'd call on the waiter and he
would wave his little index finger and go again, and
then have the meals start from the very beginning all
over again and people, no, he would you need all

(57:18):
of it? That strong decision he was making the decision
again again that I love that too, imagine being so
it's it's very um king like like I am so
rich and I am so powerful that I will have

(57:40):
dinner more than once. I'm gonna have dinner as many
times as I please. No one can, no one can
stop me. That that that it bleeds out into the
real world for him and to the exterior world. It's
very it's very that scene from Spirit Away with the
with the no sponsor, the restaurants so expressed past arrived

(58:07):
and they can't they don't. They keep bringing like giant
like he keeps crossing gold to them and he's good.
You need to write you need to write a movie
called Hithcock at Dinner, which is just like a literal,
like it all takes place in two hours and it's
just his dinner and like the mid turn is like
they realized he's ordered it again. Yeah, and was thrown

(58:31):
into chaos. Yeah. I feel is there like a movie
that like it sounds like like link Later would have
directed this, like a movie that's just a meal? Is
my dinner with Andre? Is that it, Oh, my week
with Maryland, my weeks me myself, and I like I

(58:55):
keep saying to Julio, like his thread for his special
ship be the word I has to be in all
of them. Yeah, you want me to call the movie
my first movie, my first my first movie idea. There's
something so powerful communically about the word that. And there's
something so powerful communically about the word MyD me being

(59:17):
in a title. Yeah something. Yeah, that's that's my that's
my like linguistic theory and my my story, my little idea,
my little idea, my little idea is really good. And
the sequel can be my big idea, my big idea.
Everyone loved My Little Ideas. The sequel Don't Love My

(59:41):
Little Idea is a documentary about the first film, Yeah,
about the success of the film feature It's a million,
the first get a million viewers. Yes, some featurettes, I
remember some feature atts, Like I actually remember one hunting
featurette that we have talked about. Which one, which is

(01:00:04):
what Utterly Hunting? Uh? It is a featurette about shooting
the finale for Desperate Housewives, seen through the eyes of
the creator of Desperate Housewives, Mark Mark Haunting Hunting. Yeah,
that was a pretty haunting. I know someone who was
a writer on that series, and like was there when

(01:00:25):
the Nicolette and Mark slap went down, the quote unquote
slap that that caused the lawsuit, and just like hearing
about like the temperature of the set at that time,
what was going on with all the women, Like it's
just nothing is what it seems, And there must be
a film about that there. There has to be. There
has to be a story told about the final about

(01:00:47):
the darkest, thickest days of Desperate Housewives. It's just too good.
It's also like I feel like it's the kind of
thing that can't happen. Well, actually I don't know, because
I was gonna say, like I feel like no one
earns that kind of money on TV anymore, but maybe
that's changing with like I don't know, only the movie
stars that go there for like like with and with

(01:01:08):
like a real exception, like like if there's anyone making
a million per episode, and Jennifer Anison make two million
an episode on the morning show to the Morning Shows,
which means they make they each make twenty million a season,
and then people long ago and like who do you

(01:01:28):
know that has seen Apple TV hit shows. I say
it is my favorite television program. Sorry de losis bookies.
It's almost as good as Morning Show, almost, guys, yeah
you almost got there. I've never seen it. I don't
know anyone that sees it. And it is a show
that you hear about these astronomical fees that people get,

(01:01:49):
and it's like and they keep adding high commanding people
to the cast, like they added Julianna Margalis. Season was
on e Er for like thirty d years so and
the Good Wife, so she's not commanding no dollars. They
just put John Hamm in the cast. Like it's just
like it keeps getting season three season Season three is

(01:02:11):
coming and the third graders are pounding the pavement to
make this happen. Our bit is that third graders, right,
And just like that in the Morning Show, Beyonce woman
in the Morning Show, Beyonce as a weather woman in
the morning so would be I think that they could
write a really good art for her. She could be
the one that says a big hurricane is coming and

(01:02:36):
get all your CaTiO furniture. She's a woman. Would you
say math that it is a spiritual successor to Desperate Housewives,
like I can't be fucking show because when you because
when you were when aware that it's kidding, show wants
to be like, I'm sorry, is it an It pretends

(01:02:58):
to be a swork and show, but it's like, but
when we're talking about like Melanie Gibbons killing off her reflection,
as we like just like quickly resolve this, like cliffhanger
from season one, like Housewives would try to do that
in a way that was not aware of how goofy,
and it was goofy. It was being up the future
well like well like house Does would always have like

(01:03:19):
crazy cliffhangers, right, and then the next season within the
first with an episode one, it's like, oh yeah, that thing,
it doesn't matter anymore. Someone died by being impaled by
the tornado the tornado episode the Tornado basically because it
was November Sweeps, like the character the characterized, the character dized,

(01:03:43):
So John Stattery plays like a politician husband who marries
Eva Longoria and it's quickly becomes a parent that he's
married her because for optics and they're in a very
unhappy relationship. And luckily because it was November Sweeps, a
tornado hit was Aria Lane and a white picket fence
goes through his body as he's trying to chase her down.

(01:04:05):
In this to me, you can't just you can't just
have a tornado hit the block without being aware that
this is camp. But that's what I loved about those
like those like primetime soaps of of of Yesteryear, which
apparently which for Grey's Anatomy it's very much still on,

(01:04:25):
but they would have like a disaster of the season
and it was truly like my bit was always like, oh,
there's a lion loose on with Steria Lane because they
would do that hits the hospital and Grey's Anatomy like
literally literally you have you have two characters you want
to get rid of Mama. Put him on a small plane.
We can crash it, like like oh we like it

(01:04:50):
literally got that insane though, Like I'll never forget the
Desperate House five Supermarket shooting with Laurie Metcalf. Yes, that
was amazing performance from an incredible form. It's and in
a highly problematic episode of television that probably would not
be made today. What was problematic about I don't think
it was like entertainment. It was like someone gets shot

(01:05:13):
in public and it was like, oh my god, that
commands a salary. Probably not like but like they dangled
the you know, mass shooting of it all to get
people to watch, and that sweeps culture. That was we
need to do a big episode culture, which these streaming

(01:05:34):
shows don't need to do because they stream. Yeah, but
they do at the time, right right, right, exactly, exactly exactly. Wow,
what a beautiful treat use on the television. And that
was a treat use on the status of television, and
that only could have happened with our guests. We are

(01:06:02):
now transitioning into I don't Think so, Honey, which is
our sixty second segment that we all do that I
can tell on the faces of the guests they're just
now remembering never really innovated on the form. She was
the first person to say, I don't think so, honey,
I don't think so honey, just one minute. I mean
that is the first, the first meta, the first meta,

(01:06:23):
I don't think the honey, I think we ever someone's
ever done. The first is the bowl of things that
happens on the podcast, only the live one. Oh, we're
not doing that for you, okay, okay, and then then
you guys go, But I have something that it's afflicting

(01:06:46):
me as of today. Okay, this is Matt Rodgers. I
don't think so many as time starts to know, I
don't think so honey, all medicine tastes bad? How come
we there hasn't been an invention of medicine that get
this tastes good. I don't think so money that we
can put again, I will say, it's satellites in the sky.
We can't have a day quote that tastes good. How

(01:07:07):
about day quote that tastes like I don't know strawberries?
How about day quote that tastes like I don't know cherries?
And I understand that they try to make this a
cherry flavor. I would probably go out there and I
would say, hey, what would you think? What would you say?
The day quill taste like? They're like, oh, I guess cherry, Yeah,
cherry with terrible medicine. So honey, where are doctors on this?

(01:07:29):
Where a scientists on this? Get get your flavoring out, mama,
Now make the medicine taste better, because I haven't. I'm congested.
I have things going on inside of me, but I
I wake up every day and my eyes open and
they opened in terror because I know, I mean, I
have the bad taste of day quill, night quill. Don't
even get me started. Now I'm supposed to sleep, I

(01:07:49):
don't think so. Wait, you know you can also take
a pill for me. Yeah, but you don't have to taste.
I'm sorry, but you know what that that that while
I see a here and respect that, and have taken
in my life many pills, and let's not get it twisted.
I have taken pills and I will in the future.

(01:08:10):
I still don't understand why this medicine that's supposed to
be over the counter, and you know, sometimes it's tough
to get these pills. This over the counter stuff so
has to taste like ab solute poison. It tastes like poison,
I will say some of them. I likes taste great.
No days, I don't mind the flavor at all. You

(01:08:31):
don't mind day. That's that's why. Maybe it's the fact
that I had a cold right after it and the
day cold brew like that was not choice. People like
pepto bismol legitimately has no I have no notes for
the taste. It feels. It feels so good. You enjoy absolutely,

(01:08:55):
you probably pepped a lot like a tornado one with
stereo lane. There we go kill John Slattery every now
and then period. Alright, so yeah, I'm ready. Um okay,
so this is the blessed moment where we get to
experience Bon Yang's I don't think so, honey, And as
time starts now, I don't think so honey. Figurines with

(01:09:16):
the arms and legs that don't move, And better yet,
why don't statues have arms and legs that I'm not
talking animatronics. I don't need them to like move around.
I just want you to be able. The public should
be able to adjust the arms and legs of a
statue because because otherwise, if I want to just look
at something, a static representation of something, I would just

(01:09:38):
google the image searching. I need to be able to.
It's the joy of seeing something in three dimensional space
and in reality is to be able to sort of
engage with it, you know, articulate in certain ways. I
need articulation in my action figures. I'm not action to.
It's just figurines, statues. If it makes them action figures,

(01:09:59):
it makes them engaging. It's art that you can just
really sort of feel like you created and collaborated on.
That's the truest form of art figuring where you can
move around the arms and legs and sometimes even the head.
You can you can spin the head around and make
it nod and shake it out, and that's one minute.
So you wish that all figurines would sort of take
a page from Barbie's book. Yes, but Barbie, Barbie, you

(01:10:20):
can't even Barbie, you can't even move. You can't bender
at the knee or the elbow. But she certainly can
do something like this in the clicking. The clicking is
so nice and what we're gonna say. That reminded me
that I have a theory about stum that some statues
I think. I'm like, were they they mean to put
it here? Or whoever was in charge of moving it

(01:10:42):
sort of got tired. I went to take a break
and never moved it again. I was in I was
by a hospital and there was a statute that was
placed in the most bizarre place that I was like,
why is there a statue here? This is There's no
way this was on purpose. And then and then I thought, well,
maybe this extends beyond the hospital statue. This problem, yes,
that people just got lazy and moved it there. What

(01:11:03):
was Oh my god, the statue, the shakier statue must
have taken a long time to make for for this season.
For the first step, the prosthetic obviously, but the bottom statue.
That's that's like, that's a big ask I feel on
the status We need a statue of something, Yeah, because
that was you shot that early. Yeah, I forget the

(01:11:27):
logistics of this something. I remember there was a whole
thing about the statue not maybe not being frogen in time.
Oh yeah, but when when you started talking, I was
really thinking you were describing an animatronic, and I was
going to tell you that not an animatronic. It's not
you're looking for it. You're you're you're speaking to the

(01:11:48):
state of statues. But it reminded me it doesn't. I
don't want robotics. I want like just you know, I understand.
They opened up in in like Tokyo Disney, they opened
up a new beauty in the Beast like ride and
it's like a state of the art ride that has
like state of the art animatronics and at the end
of the ride, like you know in the movie when

(01:12:09):
all the when like all the household aptters come to
life and their people. These audio anactronics are so expensive.
They made audio animatronics of all the humans at the
end when they come, so like they spent millions of
dollars to make an animatronic of like Fifi the made
as a human at the end, and it's just like
one second, one second that no one knows who they are.

(01:12:31):
They put all this money into character. So it's like,
you know, and Beauty and the Beast, like all the
household objects, like they're they're frozen like that because of
the spell. And she's the dust, She's the duster, and
so at the end of the ride, Beau, she's great
and gorgeous. But it's just so funny because no one

(01:12:54):
grows up thinking, I can't wait to go to Disney
World and see the Fifi um the human animatronics Mrs
Cross as a human and Chip as a human are there,
and like, they spent millions of dollars to make these
animatronics figures, and no single soul was like, you can't
wait to go see them brought to life, but they did.

(01:13:16):
The heartbreaking part about that, the ending of that movie
that no one talks about is that you know, Mrs
Popps and Chip and they all become human, then presumably
they'll be servants for the rest of their lives. Yeah,
they're going to like bring her breakfast in bed. They
had the choice to be like fun and immortal, and

(01:13:37):
they wanted so badly to be mortal. And you know,
in surface, it's very it has a whiff of that
that really has anyone here seemed down the nabbey and
there's always these like speeches were like the butler legitimizes
basically the cast system, where there's like, no, we were

(01:13:57):
born to the toxic mentality, hon Yeah, okay, mentality. It's
a toxic mentality. Who of you two are going to
go first? I'm ready, I have mine, Okay, first out time.

(01:14:17):
This is Julio taures Is. I don't think so, honey.
This time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Weddings
that end in I do, honey. If you're going to
ask me to come to your little show, give me
a show, you mean to tell me that you you
we're all here. We're gonna watch this person walk down

(01:14:38):
the aisle and then you're gonna kiss, and then it's
gonna end. If you're not running in a wedding dress.
Why are you buying a wedding dress? If that wedding
dress is not gonna end up pattered, were covered in
a little bit of blood, then what a what are
we doing? Where is the where is the drama? I
can't believe that you sold me on a falls narrative

(01:15:02):
by inviting me to this big dramatic thing, this big
dramatic ceremony, and it just sort of deflates at the end.
Mm hmm. I need I need her to run away
five seconds or to be crying at the author because
because he ran one of the minute. You know, I

(01:15:23):
always feel like it's a shame that there are no
objections because I feel like that is a part where
someone could make a really good point, you know what
I mean, Like like, if you are at a wedding
and there's no objections, that means that Brian has no
good friends. And that's a rural culture. Now, that's a
rule culture number fifty two. If you are at a
wedding and there are there are no objections, that means

(01:15:44):
the friends, what about the groom? The groom I just
assume has no We don't we don't care about the groom.
That's right, Julio. Would you would you ever produce a
wedding or oh right, not planned not that's different than
planning a wedding. But you would like write a wedding. Yeah,

(01:16:06):
like right, someone's wedding. That would be fun. I would
love I would love you know what I love like
I'm not gonna get I'm never gonna get married, but
I wouldn't have my wedding would be very like a
dictator funeral, like like dictators. Dictator funeral a little scary,

(01:16:28):
like so many people lined up, the public wailing outside. Yeah, exactly.
And then it's both It's about you. It's about you
in the person you're marrying in like a glass case.
If me in a glass case approaching this person, oh
my god, don't touch me or kiss me, this wedding

(01:16:50):
will not end in I do it when ending your death. Yeah,
I love a dictator funeral. Remember was it Kim Jongs
or Kim John Ills gneral snow the snowy funeral? I mean,
chic I do. In Tenneman Square, you can line up

(01:17:13):
to go see MOUs tomb and it is now embalmed
in a glass coffin. It's crazy, but you can go
see maus body and there's something really chic about that, honestly. Yeah. Yeah.
People lining up to see remains of people is crazy,
like in churches and they're like, this is a dried

(01:17:33):
blood of Christ that we have. I mean it's like
a little scab in and people come and they're like
it's crazy, but I kind of love there's something about
that's that's to love about it as well. People who
have open castor funerals, they don't if they saw how
foolish they looked, they would have changed that plan. You
all look bloated as hell. You look bloated, fucking washed them,

(01:18:00):
do you Your wake up is brutal? And also like
the makeup artist was just the like embomber, Like it
wasn't like they didn't bring in like your girl son,
your makeup that day, you know what I mean? Oh,
I have I have an idea for for the for
that whole business. I'm like, okay, a funeral home where
they offer like part of their thing if they have
a ton of wardrobe options that you can choose from

(01:18:22):
for the open casket, you know, so you can have
like all kinds of looks that maybe you didn't have
access to in your regular life. You can designed, you
can be very designer. That's really good's amazing. And then
you go and like you try on like all the clothes.
It's like I'm gonna be a superna dress like me

(01:18:47):
that vibe. Um all right, Anna, are you ready? Um?
I am. And I'm not sure if this is really
gonna resonate with anyone, but someone else, you know, someone
I think touch, even one person you will have done. Yeah,
this is an I guess. I don't think so of

(01:19:07):
your time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Self
oriented thinking, self referential thinking. You mean to tell me
that I'm going to spend my day thinking about what
is going to happen to me in the future and
thinking about what has happened in the past, and I
will just suffer as a result. That my that our
brain's default mode of operation is to be not in

(01:19:28):
the present, but either in the future or in the past,
always suffering. You mean to tell me I have to
learn this as an adult and then find past positive
things to do to engaged in the present moment using
my hands so that I'm not wandering off and causing
myself suffering, And you mean to tell me that I
again have was not taught this until I was older.

(01:19:49):
And only now do I see how much suffering I
cause myself to have every day thinking about the future
and the past. And so I'm gonna say, I don't
think so, honey, Uh, suff orient of thinking. I am
trying so hard to get out of this nasty habit,
and I hope that we all find peace in the press.

(01:20:11):
What do you mean that wouldn't resonate. Some people don't care,
they're too busy watching. Don't worry. I don't care. I'm
talking about the press toward dramas. My god, wow, that
was that was wondering. It really is. It's it's something
that I like because I'm aware of it now and

(01:20:33):
I catch myself doing it and I know that it is,
like what causes suffering. I'm like, oh, my god, and
yet I can't stop thinking about thinking that's very Buddhist
thing of like, it's that the suffer the root of
suffering is to think about, wow, wow, that what a
beautiful what a beautiful note. And also I mean it's

(01:20:55):
sort of it was I don't think so, honey. But
Anna's segment was you mean to tell me, you mean
to you mean to tell me, honey. I think I
think I think you really you take that idea, and
I think I think you make that something. You tell
me like it's it's very powerful syntactically. You mean to

(01:21:18):
tell me, Wow, there's it's really beautiful. You mean to
tell me. This episode is coming to a close, and
I'm finding out about this now. I'm finding about this
now an hour and minutes in. Let me tell you something.
What I'll tell you. What's roughly twenty five minutes each
episode of Losest Bookies, and they're streaming by at least

(01:21:41):
the first two hours, and then and then there's how
many in this season? Six or seven? Six six six
action packed half hours which will, sorry but make you
laugh if you're out there being like, oh I wanted
to show. That was like, good point, mama. Maybe the
show is for you, but most primarily you're gonna chuckle,

(01:22:02):
laugh and have a fine time watching these characters get spooky.
That was beautiful. Wow, what an endorsement. It's so good.
It's so good. I have nothing to add. Are you
proud of yourself? Yeah? I'm happy with it. That was
an earnest moment to end the body. I just wanted

(01:22:23):
to hear you guys say it. And we end every
episode with a song every time, Mature, Full Happy. I
guess if you want to hear the rest of that song,

(01:22:43):
you can listen to in the Zone, the album by
Britney Spears, and that song is every Time written by
Britney Spears. Bye Bye Bye