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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Look, may oh, I see you, my ow and look
over there is that culture. Yes, goodness, lost cult.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Dang dong lost culturistas calling get into it, Mayhem in
the desert, Mayhem in the desert merch my favorite color
of the color that works best for me and my
skin tone, neon. I can't tell if you're joking, because
Matt is one of our olive toned legends, and you
really must cherish this fact about yourself. I can I say,
(00:32):
as a platonic person in your life, here we go.
You looked really good this weekend?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Shut up? Were you looking at my photos? Scantily clad?
I sort of went there in my photos.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
You could have withheld from posting, and yet you want
to And one of these sort of fringe things that happens,
one of the fringe consequences that sometimes your friends go, oh,
sometimes your friends get a little chubb for you. It's
actually rule of culture number sixteen. Sometimes your friend friends
get a little chubb for you. Well, thanks, awkward? Wait,
(01:03):
can I say lefty for you?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Though? Because I've went and I went to weekend one,
We're going to weekend two. Yeah, it's going to be
twenty degrees colder in a good way. It's going to be. Yes,
it's going to be in the mid seventies for my legend. Oh,
the god said, it's Bowen Yang's first Coachella. Cool it, dad,
all the earthquake today. Heard about this when I was
driving back, couldn't feel a thing because I was gunning
(01:26):
it in the hov and you were you, you were
bouncing on that thing that you couldn't even Sometimes you
were just boom, boom boom. I haven't felt an earthquake once. No,
that's all. That's not true.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
We were we were in Palm Springs the last time
we felt an earthquake.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
That one.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Matre Jahari was sitting next to me and was there.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
We were stoned.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
And we were at the Tropicana eating tropical I'm sorry,
eating dinner full on earthquake. Yeah, I was eating like
my chicken piccata or whatever the fuck. And then I
was like, Mitre Juhari is shaking her ass in this booth,
what is going on? Which was unlike her, She usually
just hits very still, eat, very.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Still an eat.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
And then we realized in the commotion at the restaurant
that it was an earthquake.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
The loco motion Loco Motion. Kylie was not at Coachella.
She's everywhere else. She's everywhere else.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
It was the New York Gay Night last week, the
Kylie Minogue concert, and I was going to try to go,
but we were at work.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
And I've seen our accident nineteen times in the last year.
And that's not to say it needs to be an
accent for me to see Kylie Minogue. It just so
happens everywhere I am. Kylie MINOGUEZ. That's amazing thing. Oh,
that's so nice. You must understand how important Kylie. She's
important to the culture. She's invited on the pod. We
would have a great conversation with Kylie, starting with the
Local Motion and going all through her career. Just to
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speak quickly on Gaga, it was unfucking believable. You're going
to have the best time. And also Charlie was amazing.
I'm so excited to go with you. I'm so excited.
But here's the thing. In order to sort of get there,
that we have this other milestone that's happening, which is
this episode that we're doing today. I have to say,
probably the reason I do comedy is sitting across from
us Yea and What an instant, What a nice, soothing
(03:08):
soul moment that it's so easy to be around her.
I walked in.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
She was making coffee, stirring her monk with a knife.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
It's a knife. It's a knife period period. So this
is a big day.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Bo She's already podcasting royalty number one in the land,
not even a month into the game and she's number
one in the land. Good hang on Spotify. Hey, Joe Rogan,
shut up, get bent over, pull it. It is fantastic.
Just as the title suggests, it's a good hang. We'll
talk about the format because there are some innovative things
(03:44):
you thought you couldn't innovate in the podcasting space. No,
you haven't met our guests. Yeah, restless like Tor's back.
One of my favorite live comedy shows in the last
lifetime of mine and my last lifetime. It's my favorite
live comedy show.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
The blueprint of two people doing comedy literally it had
never been anyone before Carol Burnett and Julie Andrews. Who
that's my example, gay man, Julie Andrews and Carol Burnett
is like, that's so funny. Like you think of them
as like the comedy icon, but.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
We forget about them as comedy duo icon Yeah, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
They turned it. You know what we need to do.
We need to do Avid and Costello meet the Monsters.
But Matt and Bowen meet the monster. Yeah, I'm pitching
this to Universal. Have us meet the wolf Man. I'm serious.
This is a film franchise. This is Matt and Bowen
meeting the Fracula. Meet the bride of Frankenstein, Victoria Frankenstein.
We're coming for her. Have you heard about Victoria Grant Frankenstein,
(04:38):
the great granddaughter of Well, let's ask her after we
bring her in. Everybody. Hey, that was like being at
my own funeral. I was associating like rise like the monsters.
Have you heard about Victoria Frankenstein. Oh my gosh, don't
(05:00):
we asked? Seeing the same exact thing in her episode.
We didn't mean to.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yes, and she she mixed up with Lisa Frankenstein the
Diablo Tody movie.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Okay, but have you heard about Victoria Frankenstein? Yes? I
think so. She basically so, there's the new theme park
in Universal Studios in Orlando. Epic Universe, and there's a
the Dark Universe, which is sort of like all the
Monsters and the Big Ride. In the pre show, it's
hosted by Victoria Frankenstein, who is like the girl boss,
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great granddaughter of Victor Frankenstein, and her whole gig is
she wants to show that the monsters can be contained,
and she wants to basically take you around the mansion
so you can see all the monsters, and you know,
something goes wrong.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
She's like domb energy, like why I got it covered?
And then yeah, she's in over her head.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
No, And this just goes to show you, like women dom,
we wanted to know, should women be in charge? That's
what we're here to talk about. The answer was.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Maybe maybe, maybe for a chance.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I think because it's a theme park ride and something's
gonna go wrong, people are gonna have a lot to say.
Everyone leaving is all those Florida people leaving, Like, well, I.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Know you guys are big theme park people.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
I am real not, so this is where you and
Tina sort of go.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
In fact, I just did a show on Orlando and
she was very excited to get me to go on
the rides, and I did not want to go on
the rides. I'm not a theme park person, all right, Sorry,
I know it's.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
The first of all, we are the ones who should
probably take a seat right reaching Our guide was talking
about you too. Wait, okay, was it samm Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Lovely and he he had the best time with you.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
We had the best time with him, and he was
He was really a classic. He was the perfect prototype
of what you want that person.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Oh yeah, Disney World is overwhelming. Oh yes, one of
the and too many like too far.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Away, too far away to spread out. You spread out
a lot of the.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Same images, kind of like being projected at you from
like Plato's cave.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
You know what I mean. You're like, this is this
an illusion? It's not, it's real, Like you have to
come out.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
It's I'm also at an age where I don't want
to be shook anymore. Like I don't want to be
I don't like being nauseous. I don't like the lack
of control. It definitely feels like I never get to
the It's like when people say when you get a
runners high, it never happened. That's what it feels like
at those theme parks, which.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Is like, are you feeling it? And you're like, I'm
so sorry, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
I don't know, do you know what's the what's the
thing that I never realized about all theme parks until
I brought a friend who pointed it out. And then
I can't hear it every time. The music never stops.
It's always D D D. And if that's how it
is in my brain all the time, I think maybe
(07:55):
maybe we share that with Tina, but like, it never
stops being adventure music in my brain. And Greta was like,
it doesn't stop, does it? It never stops. I was like, oh,
I guess not.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
And Dratch and Tina and I were all together and
they went and had dinner at Epcot Mexico and I
was supposed to meet them and they texted me and
they were like, you would hate it here dot com
And I was like, friends, real friend.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I literally know where they went, because those guides have
a place they take us. And then there's there's an
and there's a Neil Patrick Harris cocktail. There's a Neil
Patrick Harre's cocktails in a doogie howser cocktails and I
did love it.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Neil, I'm sorry, Rocks, that's okay. You guys are normally
so aligned on your activities on tour.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Yeah, we're pretty we we do like very similar things.
We go to Bloomingdale's, we like get us buy a sweater,
we like have you know we watched like we got
to watch the White Lotus finale in our hotel together
and that was really fun. And yeah, we do like
simple like we're.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Like, ooh, like, did you see there's like a place.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
For croissants around the corner. We'll go get one. That's
about it. But yeah, this one we were not aligned.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
That's okay, that's okay. But they knew that the Mexican
place was not your That is.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
What a real friend.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Don't you feel like a real friend knows, don't come here.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Real sometimes says you're not invited for your own good.
That's a real culture number thirty. A real friend sometimes
says you're not invited for your own good.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
We'll talk about this idea. Do you feel like your
life is scored? Because I'm watching the Pit now and
I'm loving that. It's not love the Pit.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
I love that. I gotta get into the Pit, I say.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
We wrote a parody of The Pit called The Ditch,
and it was East London. It took place in Shortage
medical just me Ago and John Ham speaking in East
London accents, and it was it did not do great
address because no one understood what we were saying.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
So that's sometimes you got to wait for the culture
to catch up. I feel like the people are just
now talking about the pit.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Yes, yeah, I feel like TikTok loves a pit. My
TikTok loves the pit.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
But I mean, I look, Noah Wiley, I've been a
no stand for twenty I mean I've I watched the
entirety of Ear three times.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
That was your show.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
I watched it again during the pandemic, and then I
watched it in when it came on. I used to
be doing like improv at night and waiting tables. That
was it, And I would smoke a bong at like
seven o'clock and watch er reruns Let's Go because it
used to be on like TNT, right, and then like
go to work or go to a comedy show. And
so I feel like I've known Noah forever.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah, And to see him back in Scrubs has to
be surreal.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Yeah, And you know, doctor Robbie's not in scrubs. He's
got audio, he has a hoodie.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Why I need to watch the Pit? He's you know
it's up. Yeah, but it's so good. It's so good
a bong. Huh you were for real?
Speaker 4 (10:35):
I used to Yeah, that was back, you know.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
God, let's see ninety I was living in the East Village,
so I was twenty six maybe.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Very similarly too old to know. My our friend Dave
had a bong probably until we were twenty seven and
then twenty eight, and then it broke, which is the
only reason we stopped using it. But I couldn't believe
how high I We get to watch Homeland, like fully,
Claire Dane's having a very real breakdown, Like we have
(11:04):
to get her in that chair at some point and
be like, how did you survive? Because she's shaking and
convulsing because of her own brain. And I'm sitting there
so high, like just taking that.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Actually, when I was coming up here in the elevator,
there was a gentleman, a gentleman, a nice young gentleman,
and a young a chart with all this red string
and they and it smelled so much like weed.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
They really really reeked of weed. And I was.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Like, oh, I thought to myself, oh weed, remember that,
Like it's been so long and I just had that.
It was like nostalgic.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Yeah, we might be hitting that developmental time now between
the two of us.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Well, I don't know, I don't know. I was so back,
Oh yeah you were. Well, actually it is it gets
What I like now is that there's so it's such
a science now that you can kind of know exactly
what it is. Yeah, yeah, I'm yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
That was a different time, and I felt like I
had no real responsibilities. Even though I felt like my
life was overwhelming, I didn't have a lot of responsibility.
So it was like, okay if I was a little stone.
But now I don't think I could handle it not anymore.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
I think my ideal trip, that my ideal trip is
what you and I have connected on, which is what
you've talked about in the last time I saw Wrestless Slug,
which was going to Iceland one of your sons or
both of them.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Yeah, with one of my sons just enjoying, just getting
high off of nature. Yes, how about that.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Well, I also think that I've gotten to a point where,
I mean I don't barely drink anymore. Where I know
this sounds super cheesy, but actually being conscious, like actually
just being in the moment is like is like a
high is a win because I'm always future tripping or
I'm always thinking about what I just said or did,
and I just feel such less personality hangover in general
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when I'm not altered. So I'm not that into being
altered right now, wow with like and also I'm older
and it just like you need a lot of time
to recover.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
And I stopped drinking right before.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
The pandemic and was really grateful that I didn't really
do it during it. And now it's not a it's
not I'm not in a program or anything, but just
like every once in a while, maybe have a thing,
but I.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Don't really need it, and it feels very good yea. Honestly,
whenever I take my like six weeks, I feel like, Wow,
this is the new me. But I had over. I
don't know what weeks. I don't know what it is
about the past two years. But maybe it's just mid
thirties where I'm just like sobriety maybe and then i'm
and then and then like that all goes away. I'm like, nah,
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not for me. Yeah, I do think I can. If
I can look to the future, I can see it
for myself. At some point I can see it.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Alcohol is poison, that's yeah, but it's okay. You know,
you can have a little poison, like just like sugar
is poison. You can have but like it can't sugar.
It's all poison. Yeah, but I think, especially as a
woman of a certainty, you do start to feel the
poison a little bit more. The poison really turns on you. Yeah,
and just you don't get the same kind of thing anymore.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
It goes away?
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Is it the microplastics in our brain as well? Yeah,
I'm sorry to bring this up.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Are you worried about microplastics?
Speaker 2 (14:16):
We were thinking of writing an update about because this
thing came up in last week. This New York Times
piece came out about microplastics. The equivalent of a spoon
is in your head? Is it all of our brain?
Speaker 1 (14:28):
No? Stop?
Speaker 2 (14:28):
The equivalent of you guys haven't heard this, The equivalent
of a plastic dairy Queen's blizzard spoon is in our
brains and little granules.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
And there's really nothing we can do about it. Yeah,
come on, First of all, you can't tell me that
we're not better off than generations are gone. We drink water?
How about that? Well? That is they didn't back we.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Did not drink water growing up about water and ever,
are you being serious?
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (15:01):
In school, no one made us drink water. No one
talked about water. Water was not a thing like you
would go to the water fountain and you would drink
like you you would drink and.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Drink because you didn't realize.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
No water bottles, you didn't have water. Like maybe at
a soccer game they would have water.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Maybe, but it was like Gator. We never checked. I
never said did you drink water? They never brought water.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
There was never. Now I'm obsessed with yes, do you
have one of those things, those jugs that says the
time of day?
Speaker 3 (15:33):
I did have that, but and it was positive reinforcement,
like you're doing it, you're doing great, You're almost there
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
But now Molly Shannon had one of those on the
you know, she was like, isn't it great? Isn't it
Greative reminds me I love it drink water to talk
about how great it was? Something that's just so great
about it. I'm saying, No, I am.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
I have a basic bitch like White Girls Stanley that
I love because I like to skip it like a
like a Durbil, like I like the strong.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
This is the second episode in a row that Gerbils
have come up. There's something in the culture. Oh shit,
guinea pigs road in set large having a moment. Right, No,
but that's what I'm saying, is like when I was
brought up, it was not water on the table. I'll
tell you what. There was never a coke, a diet
coke and a sprite two liters each.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Don't forget about milk, babe.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
I was just gonna say, we we shared this thing
where we were. We came up when milk was king you,
you were not gotting, that's for sure. You would chug
a glass of milk at least once a day. They
said too. There was a time they were saying too.
It was like Cindy Crawford on the cover of whatever
the fuck with her got milk mustache, being like, if
(16:48):
it's not too you're gonna die of osteoporosis. And one
of the one of the things I remember my nana
is saying to me when I was little was she
looked me in the eye and said, osteoporosis is not fun.
And I was I'm like, and now I'm scared. And
where is that in the culture? Now like, have we
just forgotten about osteoporosis.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Or not only have we not forgotten about it, but
as a woman of that age, all my friends are
getting bone density.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Tests and DEXA scams.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
And we are and everything is coming home to roost
because a couple of things you get.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
I didn't know this.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
You get all your calcium before the age of thirty.
Number one.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Number two, if you are a fair skin like myself,
you don't get enough sun, you don't get enough vitamin D.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Vitamin D you should be taking it. You're pretty screwed. Yeah,
you guys might be, Okay, I.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Know, but but and also there's these things in LA
that I'm obsessed with that I want to go to
which are like, uh, they're they're like salons for people
who have osteopenia, which is pre osteoporosis, where you just
you know, you have to do heavy lifting.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Now like now I have to lift.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Weights, So you have to do a lot of weights.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Yes, and so you have to take your calcium and
you have to do weights. And so there's like programs
where it's like you do leg presses, you do whatever,
and it's just designed for women my age who are
smart enough to get their bone density tests and they're like,
I have a little bit of you know, osteopenia in
my hips. I need to do leg presses. Wow, so too,
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I know a lot about osteoporos.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
They're penia clubs.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
There's penia and osis or penia and porosis. So yeah,
one is pre one is you got it? Yeah, and
there's things you can do, but you kind of like,
you know, we're our bones stop growing at like eighteen.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yeah. Well, when I started working out like more seriously
a few months ago, my trainer literally said it's great
that you start now because at thirty five your bone
density is completely gone, and then by thirty seven you
lose any metabolism you ever had. And I was just
like going acrossside, like oh.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
No, oh wild that as a woman, you go through
being like a sex object and then maybe a mother,
and then maybe like menopause, and then they're like and
on your way out, you need to eat forty five
grams of protein a day and lift very heavyweights or
you're all your bones will break.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
If you don't turn into a monster.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Now it's like you got it, and you're like what
what You're like, this can't be true.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
I can't.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
I have to go to the gym and lift the
heaviest I've ever lifted.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Hey, what if we shuffle the order? What if you
started low bone density? Yeah, then you become a sexy
or no. I think it'd be fun to end on
incredible style.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
That would be incredible.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
I mean things are changing, but you know, can you
do I'm sure you can do push ups?
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Right?
Speaker 3 (19:37):
So they say women need to be able to do
like ten or eleven push ups, real push ups day,
and you got just like okay, well I'll try.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
It's hard.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Are you saying these are clubs specifically for OSTEOPI women.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Yeah, they're like physical therapy.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
An I agree because my age, I'm the youngest oldest
person I see, and that you like it, yes, okay.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Thirties and forties are a little tricky because you're like,
I'm not as young as it used to be, but
I don't feel old, and nobody like old people dismiss you.
They're like, you're thirty whatever, like you know, but when
you're in your fifties, you're not young, right, and young
people do not think you're young no way.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Fifty is like a nightmare to them. That wakes them
up in the middle of the night. But you're you
feel young and old people are like, so you're the
youngest oldest person you.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Mus say, and please please shut me up.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
If this sounds patronizing in any way, I feel like
this current crop of fifty somethings is still aspirational to me.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Oh agree, I think I would rather.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Be living your life, Honest to god, I would rather
be going to Bloomingdale's and museums and things every day
on tour than the bullshit that the thirty thirty year
old school.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
We just did that. We had that when we were
and we were in Berlin. We went to Bergheim and
we were there. We got we went at like Saturday
at two am, thinking there was going to be a line. No.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
We we soared in there like had a time with
friends with acquaintances. We have have been in that club
for forty eight hours. Yeah, well you know people that
have been there for days. Like, let's see how long
we last. We left after our four.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
It was like maybe five or six. And it wasn't
because it was just like not it was. It was great.
We were the best time, but we were like, oh,
you know what, we'll go home, we'll catch some disease.
We'll come back later. I text Bowe, I'm like, guys,
say something, what if we didn't go back? What if?
And then we walked to a museum and walked back
because we realized we had to pay? So what do
we do that afternoon? We walked to the museum and
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walked back, didn't even go into the museum.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
I'm here to tell you that if you enjoy that now,
the future is very bright, because best decade yet for me,
fifties by far, most decade, way better.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
And also I have to say to your point, bo, when.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Like women my age or the age of in our fifties,
it used to be kind of like maiden mother Crone.
Those were the those were the maiden mother Crone, right,
And now I think that we've managed to carve out
our generation. My generation has carved out a step before Crone.
(22:16):
And it's kind of like I'm calling it like boss
or something. But it's some stage before you become like
the wise witch where you are allowed to actually like,
you know, enjoy the fruits of your labor, not be
so beholden to like external validation, and you still like
(22:39):
feel good.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
I think it's just a full supplanting of crone.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Well there is I kind of what crone means is
like wisdom and you know, like medicine woman.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
But it's a tough word. It's a tough word.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
It's a tough word, but it's a word that I
associate with sex and the city. Oh, there's the theory
that they each represent the four crones and like classical.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
I didn't know there were classical chromes. There were there,
there's like the four crones. And they were like, is
it Shakespeare's crown? They're like, yeahs crones women. No one knew,
No one knew. They didn't have the words for it.
Back then, Amy, he was always bloated and cron.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
We should call it like like like medicine woman.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Diva diva Wait, diva? Is this is this extra step
that you're talking about? Okay, it's literally diva? Yes, Yeah,
I'm wondering something about you too, though, about like like
you being like I can't wait to get to Bloomingdale's Like,
but you guys also like share the fact that for
a long time, you guys did entertainment's most difficult job.
(23:49):
So did you feel like that like socially also was
like after that, on the other side of that, you
were like, okay, you also had.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
The kids, But I didn't have kids when I was
at SNL And I cannot believe the way I socialized,
Like SNLZ is such crazy extroverted social job. Right, you
see hundreds of people like during the week, and then
you have to do the show, and then you have.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
To host, the host, the host exactly.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Then you have to go to the party, which I
know is like, oh, go to a party, but it
is still a work function, even as fun as it is,
and I cannot believe, like it is so much energy,
yes that I can't believe I did it.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
I really and I'm glad that I was younger when
I did it.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
I'll just never forget because I told you this when
we first met. But I was there. I was a
stand by kid, so I would wait on the standby
lines and I would go and then I'll never forget.
I believe it was the episode that Anne Hathaway hosted
with the Killers, which we talked to Seth about this episode,
and that was the very first Lawrence Welk show, and
then a couple weeks later on the Weekend Update, Thursday,
(24:52):
you did the Palin rap not like nine months pregnant, right,
and I have never forgotten how her Killian that was
of you doing that, Like that has to feel like
a highlight of doing that show. Yeah, like with carrying
your child almost to full term, like barking out that
song next to yeah, this figure in culture like and
(25:17):
I'll just that was It felt like a lightning bolt
had hit the studio at that moment. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
That was really fun, really fun it had to be,
and very exciting and just kind of felt Yeah, it
felt like there was a feeling during that whole time.
Remember when we thought that was a crazy election. Yeah,
but like there was a feeling that whole time of
just the audience was really paying attention. Everything was and
(25:43):
when you're really pregnant, giant pregnant, you have a ton
of power because people are a little worried for you.
But you also you know, and so we had a
lot of fun with it, Like me and Emily Spyby
we wrote a scene about me knocking things over. Yeah,
Emily was also pregnant during the during that time, and
there was just this feeling, you know, It's kind of
like Chekhov's gun, like is she going to give birth?
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Like? But was it the episode? Was it Josh Brolin
that hosted where it was just.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Yes, he was really into me, He's so sweet.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
That was the Josh Brolin episode.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Entara Palin just came on Update and she was a
really good sport and she was like, okay, sure, I'll
just dance next to you. And I remember thinking a
wonder if her team has really told her what this is.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
But that's okay, we're gonna do it.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
We're gonna and I think my pregnancy helped, Like it
was like how do you how can you say no
to the lady? And it was so it was thrilling
at the moment, it was really fun. It was really fun.
And then I gave birth, like, uh, let's see maybe
like four or five days later.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yes, I remember Update. He was like, yeah, he's not
here because she's having a baby. And that was the
first John Ham episode. Yes, circle right the show.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
And him was the host.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
I mean the millions. Craziest thing about that episode, which
was the Josh Brolin one, was that the musical guest
was Adele fully Adele like pre like pre like Adele.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Oh like chasing Pavements, Chasing Pavements.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Yes, And then I remember she won Best New Artists
a couple of months later, and I was like, well, yeah,
probably because everyone in the world was watching that episode
and they were like, who the hell is she? She's incredible, right,
that was a night of culture, and you were at
that show. I was. I went to all of them.
I was. I was addicted and I again I told
you this, but it was the very first time I
had ever gotten in and I was like, there was
(27:35):
this feeling like I don't know that I that it's
this that I have to do, but I have to
do something like this, and I was very lost. So
I went back to my dorm room and sat on
my bed and like tearfully because I wanted it so bad,
like googled you because you were the first person I
respected the most, and then I saw that you had
started UCB and that you were in your improv at
(27:55):
your school. So I was like in my head, I
was like, I'm definitely undisting for the improv group in
this sketch group, which is ultimately what I got in
and started doing UCB. And it was because I googled
your name that night because of me going to those shows.
You so nice. Thank you for saying that. I mean,
you have to know the impact that you have, you've
had on a generation of people, obviously because it's true,
(28:17):
but also like it's it's just such a very real thing,
especially I think on gay men, like you know what,
I as, Oh, you must understand this well. I thank
you for saying that.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
I sometimes feel like I have more gay women that
I get that feedback from, which I appreciate but not
But but that's nice you to say gay.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Men the men, I think.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Just I don't know that the men respond to this
thing where like you are just being like your your
full powerful self on TV and that is something that
like we kind of have to like go about sideways
and media sometimes and you will eat our own sometimes
and so like it's I feel like you do figure
(29:05):
very very largely in that in that sense.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Wow, that means a lot. That's a high compliment.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
I mean, I feel like for me, the biggest thing
that culturally that I get a lot of feedback from from,
especially from gay men, is mean.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Girls like that.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
That feels like, especially for the millennials, felt like their
version of how to interact with me more I think
than USNL and Parks.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
I don't know, but I was I was gonna bring
I was gonna bring up Strawns and fair Child.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
You're right, there are. There are certain press interviews that
you guys did for that that I watched a million
that was really fun.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Those were like when movies, like when there were it.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Was just like many money, money, money movie, these movies.
And here's a fun story about that.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Will and Arnett and I played brother and sister, but
we were actually married in my life and we they
tested that movie, and the testing they were like, we
hate Strawans and fair Child.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
What do you mean the villain? Right?
Speaker 3 (30:08):
And I remember that the info coming back like a
lot of people don't really like the and we were like, well.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
We're the villains, you know.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
But but to the director's credit, they I think they
kept a lot of it in. But that was really
but yeah, we did tons of photo shoots and that.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Was really big. The extra.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Yeah, at that point we had already been like used
to it.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Will feral big comedy movie.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Yeah, and John Heater obviously huge, like big moment for him.
But I was just so tickled as like a comedy
person watching us now every week as someone who was
like scrolling like the writing credits for The Simpsons, like
we were like those kids. Like it was just thrilling
to see you and Will in a film like that,
and I will always always remember just you as Marilyn
(30:59):
and him is.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
Also also first of all, I was walking in today,
I was like, who am I dressed like? And I
was like, I'm dressed like Will in light of the
Roxbury I have, like.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
I have, yes, I'm paying amas. Funny story about that movie.
We had to learn how to ice skate, and I
knew enough to note, I'm not gonna be doing a
ton of ice skating this movie. You know, they had
incredible body doubles and face switcheroo technology, and they had
really good ice skaters having to do that.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
And I knew.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
I was like, I think, if I could just fake
it in the waist up, I'll be fine.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
It was just like the fact that it was so.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
But they had an incredible professional like ex Olympian ice
dancer coach, performer coaching me.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Again.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
It was a time when movies were like you're gonna
have to We're gonna I was on SNL and so
on the weekends and in the mornings I would have
to go to Chelsea Piers and ice skate, and I
remember she was this, really, I'm sorry, I forget her name.
If you're listening, you were awesome. But I would do
that thing that I learned early when I wanted someone
(32:17):
to not do something, where I would just she would sit,
we'd have our.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Coffee in the morning. I knew we only in an hour.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
The clock would be behind her and I'd be like, wait,
what's going on with you? And she'd go, well, we
have to get out on the ice, and I go,
I know, I know, I know we have to.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
We have to. I'd be like, but how is your daughter.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
I would try to get her to talk, and the clock.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Would just kick away.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
And because it was so hard to learn, bone shows,
bone tired, and also I knew it.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
I knew I didn't have to know that exactly. You're like,
they're gonna it's gonna be this, it's gonna be way
to stop. We're gonna be on wires.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
I'm never going to get it.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
And at one point she said to me, you know,
if at any point something's hurting, make sure you tell
me to We were like proud, well, I was like,
I will, like, I'm.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
Not an athlete, Like I'm not going to play through
the bay. I Am not trying to get a mental here,
so I can kind of ice caape it.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Not that well, did you do sports in high school?
Speaker 3 (33:22):
I was, I was like, did a bunch of sports moderately? Well,
uh huh, like good trash talker, like out on the field,
played softball, played soccer like a little.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Basketball, like just kind of was like like the mouth.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
But energy is something that I would I would ascribe
to you, thank you.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
I was really good at keeping the team up and
really good at like knowing where the play is, like
a lot of like plays at second you know, like that,
but not didn't really have the skill small, didn't really
have an arm softball. Yes, And it's amazing that I'm
not gay, because every picture of.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Me during that time looks kind of gay.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
Cutest like baby, but we all did back then.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
We all did in many ways, but like not a jock,
yeah right, and then she was a cheerleader sometimes too,
just kind of a floater to use a.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Me and girl's term.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
No, that's great because I feel like there's something about
young people now where they are struggling with finding people
just socializing in general.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
It's a thing.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
It's like what you want to tell them is like, oh,
is it like an osteoporosis thing, Like it's like a
calcium thing, Like you have to start early and like
get the whole sportsman thing going.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
I think to be in to learn how to collaborate
in any way. I think it's important to be not
to do sports, but to be involved in activities like that.
I just think, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
It was a different time where you could be okay
at softball and play in your local softball league for
a long time. But now you have to be like
on a traveling team and it's very intense, and parents
are involved. Parents have ruined a lot of things. Like
when parents show up, they kind of ruin things. And
my generation, my parents, no one went to anyone's occasionally
(35:05):
went to a game, but there were no adults taking
things over. Everything was a little less stressful. You could
try a bunch of things and it wasn't necessarily your identity.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Right.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
I imagine you have not been domb parent in that context
with your kids.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
I feel like I'm trying not to be.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
I feel like you're showing up to the things that
in a way that is like kind of all right.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
It's some people it's their identity, right, Like they're living
through their kids, I guess, but which I.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Mean, you have to be supportive of old. Are your
kids now they're fourteen and sixteen? Okay those are Yeah?
You got teen boys? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (35:42):
I love teens.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
You've break in thousand and half.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
I love teens. I'm here to say it.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Grow. Don't tell me that I'm gross. I know what
they do. I love teens. I'm here to say the
teen years have my favorite years. Why is it because
they're kind of like riding hard for you right now?
They're just like interesting people.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Yeah, and also their friends are kind of interesting, and
you're like, this is like the black Diamond of parenting.
This is where it's coming in and you're having big conversations,
they're making choices, You're trying to keep them safe. It's
people like focus on the little the young ens, like
the baby stuff and the young'ins. But I don't know,
there's something I think I'm good with teens.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Yeah, there's there's it's black diamond. It's moguls, Mogus, mogus
moguls got it either either right on top or right around.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Is this tied too?
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Because I've always thought of you as this aspirational TikTok person,
because I'm like, well, I need to get on TikTok
because I feel like there are people out there like
Amy Pole who are like, it's cool, I like it.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
But I feel like you were on TikTok almost first
when you were lip syncing, and then you came in,
you dominated, and then you.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Like left, Like you know what that wasn't TikTok that
we're so ahead of the curve was Instagram. Instagram.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
We had so many viral things pre TikTok, things that
would have taken off on TikTok. Now, I know that's
this sounds so cloying and obnoxious, but it's true. Like
Matt and I would like start like song like, oh.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Yeah we tunes.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Yeah, we would start our pay talk songs, bear people,
if you know what we're talking about. You know Four
Nights in Orlando, which horror story every second was almost
fifteen second song in Orlando. We would go we would
be on about a metric ton of edibles and we shoot.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Like horror anthologies. Add Disney World. Oh my god, it's
out there. It is out there. If you go deep
in the instagrams, they are there. But what was the
horror anthology called four Nights in Orlando? And then it
was like it was like four Nights in Orlando Hotel,
four Nights in Orlando, Gay Ghost, four Nights in Orlando?
Which war? Which one was our best? Where was our best?
(37:54):
We always say that was the most satisfying one when
you watched it altogether. And also you could see so
many uses and you can't find that. You can't put
that back out on TikTok. No. I tried and it
didn't really, you know, less Culturistas is huge on TikTok, right,
But that's we're pretty good.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
That's our lovely social team. I feel like we could
put it back on TikTok, but there would just be
that twenty fourteen Patina on it, where you'd be like, ew,
I don't want to watch anything from that time.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
I feel like more and more, I mean, even starting
this podcast is a good example of that. I'm getting
a little less worried about whether or not my timing
is right.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
It's okay, yeah, yeah, I know. You can't worry about it.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
I feel like, if you want to do it, I
feel like you can do whatever you want if you
want it.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
If you don't want to do it, certainly don't. Right,
you do whatever you want anytime.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
You's fun.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
Yeah, it should only be fun.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
It is fun. And there was a time when I
was even doing like the challenges. Yeah, like I just
looked through it and it was it's just like me.
One time I did a totally earnest TikTok to Taylor
Swift song Harris. It was earnest, it was it was
so it was because I cringe mountain. Have you heard
about this? It's so major. Once you climb cringe mountain,
(39:04):
then you get to the other side of.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Oh yeah, I mean that's where the power lies is
post cringe. I mean you learn that with comedy a lot.
You know, you have to just you can't be embarrassed.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Like do you have the moment in your career that
you're like this, I climb cringe mountain at this.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
Soint Oh yeah, A cringe mountain is far behind me.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
I don't worry.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
About that at all, because basically, you survive a ton
of embarrassments like death by a thousand cuts.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
You just realize I'm okay, it's okay.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
And then you realize that, like, actually, the the longer
in your career, you should be taking more risks and
trying new things, and you should be like a little
nervous and a little excited. Yeah, And the minute you
are afraid about being cool, you're screwed.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
It's true, and it stops you doing things.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
It does, and and everyone is so obsessed with themselves.
I would so much rather somebody be a little tender
rony and make a cringey mistake than the opposite. When
people are really cool, I'm like, oh honey, Like when
they're trying to be very well, I get so I
get some stress for that.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
It's not easy.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
It's not easy out there, right. But it's the same
way with like hostedt SNL. Like a host that will
come in and will be like kind of open face
sandwich and be like I'm nervous or whatever, like I'm
gonna try and they give your sketch there all and
you're like, I love you forever, yes.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
But when someone's trying to be cool, you're like, hmmm,
I can think of the people and.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
The coolness, you know, it's so it's a protective shell,
so you kind of feel for them.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
We've all been there, but it is it's so fleet,
like what is what is cool?
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Right? Is it actually never was?
Speaker 3 (40:37):
I mean, you guys do kind of define it in
the You guys, you do kind of define it. And
why I'm going to say this, the reason why you
define it is because your list is about not being cool, right,
but it is the coolest list in the world.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
It takes the piss out of the list in the.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
First yes, and it reminds you that like we're all like,
we're all like, I'm um, we're dumb.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Do you want to know what it was I think
for me in high school? I don't know about you.
Did you guys have friends that made fun of you
constantly in high school? Like I allowed myself to be
the butt of the joke a lot. They they made
fun of me for the way I held it flour
They made fun of me for the way I wore
a hat. They made fun of me because I couldn't
see colors, Like I was constantly getting ribbed on by
my friends. And I think it made me realize, like, well,
(41:21):
I'm not cool and shouldn't try and then years later
someone I remember someone said, yeah, you're a cool person,
like people think that, and I was just like, I don't.
I don't think, and don't tell me that because that
will get me in my head. I think the key
is just like always being surrounded by people who are
a little bit like this. Yeah, I just do that.
I do that all the time.
Speaker 4 (41:42):
Matte, you need people to ribu.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Well.
Speaker 4 (41:45):
I think it's a very East Coast thing too.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
I would agree it's.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
A very East Coast thing. Like the more I like you,
the more I'll tease you. Yeah, it's like it is
like a safety thing. I mean with within reason, like
you don't want to be bullied, No, don't hurt my feeling.
Speaker 4 (41:58):
Manners are for people we don't know.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Okay, yes, you know what. That was actually an unspoken thing,
especially with my my first ever like ensemble I ever
felt like I was a part of. Was my like
friend group in high school. Yeah, and our thing was
we always took the grip the ship out of here. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
There's there's nothing more satisfying than when you can tease
someone with love, yeah, and they tease you back, and
you're like, oh, we're saying like we're this is intimacy.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
Is that how you and your friends are?
Speaker 4 (42:24):
Yeah? That was Boston all the way.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah and then through SNL as well.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
Yes, like hard like because when you tease someone the
right way, it also means that you see them. Yeah,
you feel seen right, Like the most delightful thing when
someone can like you know, you know, you're like talking
about someone You're like, I'm so tired and someone's.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
Like you are.
Speaker 4 (42:44):
We couldn't tell, you know, like you're like, like you
just feel so like delighted.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
You know, I'm tired of the time. But are you
downloading this into the into the boys at all?
Speaker 4 (42:55):
I'm trying to, like, I think I'm trying to just
kind of but you know, here's the thing about teens.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
They won't be to no downloading, nooad. You go from
producer to consultant. Ah.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
And that is not my line. That is someone else's line.
Someone else said that. But you go from handling your
kid's life over like and scheduling their play dates and
getting their stuff and getting like and making their lunch
all the stuff. It's like you're in charge to being
like I know you didn't ask me, but what I
would do is you have to just stand back.
Speaker 4 (43:25):
You can't.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
You almost can't tell them anything.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
Just think about it.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
When your parents would say something at that age, it
would just be like shot up. So you you you
do the I don't know. There's a really good technique.
I'm super into it. It works for people too, but
where you just repeat back to them what they said
to you. So I hate my teacher. You hate your teacher, Yeah,
(43:52):
because she doesn't listen to us, and she's always like
giving us assignments we don't like.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
She's always giving you assignments you don't like. Yeah, you
just don't say and it kind of keeps pulling the
thread the.
Speaker 3 (44:03):
Thread, and they talk to you and they're not looking
for you to fix it, and certainly not to give advice.
No barf, like you know what you should do or
you know, teachers are really like you know, they're working
really hard these days or whatever.
Speaker 4 (44:19):
They just want to say it to you.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
Even adults don't want to be told. You agree. I
I did it for a year.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
I was trying a thing where I would only give
advice to people that asked for it.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
And you know what's funny, I'm asking for it and
I still have friends. There are certain friends and I
feel like it's conversations I have to have where it's
like I haven't realized it will be really easy to
change dynamic in our friendship if I just tell them
I don't need advice. I think. I think I have
a therapist for that. Like I don't need prescription, you
(44:53):
know what I mean. It's like when people give me prescription,
it's it's I'm not good anymore. At Maybe at a
certain point I was when I felt like you were
all like in our twenties or something, figuring it out.
But it's like I do sometimes just need to externalize
my feelings because maybe it's because I've realized how well
therapy works. Because what you're talking about is therapy technique.
All your therapist does is facilitate you speaking to yourself right,
(45:16):
and then you hear it and you're like, oh, I've
heard it out loud.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
Finally it's Brene Brown walk alongside m not like not
like face the person and say this should do. It's
like they just want to be told that meme of hey,
I'm not reading all that, I'm so happy for you
or I'm sorry that happened. Yeah, like they just want
to be told great or I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
And the other side of that is I'm really egotistical
about my advice.
Speaker 4 (45:44):
I think I have great advice.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
So I not only don't want advice that I don't
ask for, but I like to offer advice that nobody
asked for. And then I get a little butt hurt
when they don't take it. I write, I'm like, you
didn't take my advice, Like that's solid gold advice. And
then my therapist was like, why are you giving advice
to people that don't ask for it. That's precious advice
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that you can't.
Speaker 4 (46:07):
Just give out willing nilling, Like be respectful of your
own advice.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
Yeah, and value it.
Speaker 3 (46:13):
You can value it. And you can even say like
are you open to advice? And if they say yes,
you go. You know, if I give it, do you
think you'll this advice means something to me? When it's something,
it's like a lot.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
Can we can we ask you for like, do you
have any any advice for us?
Speaker 4 (46:31):
God, there's such a little advice for you. No, don't
come on, okay, in what in what area? Can you
ask something specifically about?
Speaker 2 (46:39):
Or just like I want like all of these things
at SNL that I feel like I are not compatible
in terms of like lifestyle things of like dating and
like having a dog and like all of these things.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
Yes, advices. The advice is it's just just waited out
until until you finish one thing.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
Also, you're so ahead of the game by realizing it's
something that you want. Oh, Like, I think just even
knowing what you want, you're ahead of the game. Life
is an arrow pointing you to what you want. So
like by not getting you're like, oh, I'm really missing
that I want that.
Speaker 4 (47:12):
That's interesting.
Speaker 3 (47:13):
That's Oh, thank you SNL for pointing the arrow to
what I want. And I think my advice would be
try to imagine that it's not binary.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
It's not like either have it or you don't. You
can't have it there you can't.
Speaker 3 (47:29):
Like the can'ts, the cants and shouldn't and maybe not
isn't Like there's like there's a lot of space in between, Yes,
that not being a place where you could have it
and a place where you could have it.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
I'm receiving that. Thank you. Mine's really specific. I need
like a moving company. Oh, I have a great one,
and I need like some people to cook I lost
some stuff up very good.
Speaker 3 (47:50):
So my advice there would be, don't lift a finger.
Speaker 4 (47:54):
You have you have right, we have a you have
a not you're doing well. You have enough money, you know,
thank God, very lucky. Take your privilege and.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
Get through my bank account before we started. She knows
all my financial stuff we made.
Speaker 4 (48:09):
Get somebody to pack everything up for you.
Speaker 3 (48:11):
But do one pass and go through and grab anything,
a document, anything that you would.
Speaker 4 (48:19):
Sob over if if it was lost.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 4 (48:22):
Sob not like I love this chair, I love this
bab whatever, Like, go through and go if this got
thrown in the ocean by accident, would it ruin my life?
Speaker 1 (48:32):
Right? Get those things out everything else, let them pack
it for you. Wow. You know what's crazy is I'm
realizing that stuff is less and less and less. Stuff
means less time, even like sentimental things, which I felt like, oh,
shouldn't they mean more to me? Over time? I think
as I get older, I realized just things are things.
It's it's it's bizarre. Like we were doing playing this
game at Coachella the night before the festival. We were
(48:56):
doing like the newly wed game with each other, and
one of the questions was. It was for me to answer,
what would he grab if he had to grab one
thing if the house was like, you know, it was
an earthquake, on fire, whatever is a disaster. And I
saw there and couldn't think of one thing for yourself. Yeah,
And then everyone was like my dog Bill, my partner David,
(49:16):
and I was like, oh, I guess it's just because
I don't have any of those like real things. I
was like, and I wrote down a lot of phone chargers.
I just don't grab all the chargers because you never
can have enough. Right. That's good. You might not be
attached to things. That's very healthy. I'm not. I don't know.
I think that is changing about That's good. That's very good.
Speaker 4 (49:35):
There's a thing called Swedish death cleaning. I produced a
show about it, which is all about the Swedish death clean.
Speaker 3 (49:39):
The gentle art of Swedish death cleaning, which is Swedes
believe one of the things that you can do for
your family is you can clear out your stuff before
you die. Like you know, they want less stuff, right,
and why not give your stuff away while you're still
vital and alive and tell people why it means something
to you so they can get to know you, because
what happens in the States is people die, they leave
all the stuff. Then you go through your like grandfather's
(50:01):
papers and you're like he was you know, he played
the tuba, like I didn't even know or whatever, and
so let people know you while your life. But it's
all about minimizing it and getting rid of stuff, and
so maybe you're kind of.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
Doing that along the way. Yeah, maybe he is your
brother still there. Yeah, he lives in Sweden. Oh so cool.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
There was there was a sparkless thing where he was
just playing basketball and I was like, that seems like
a cool dude.
Speaker 3 (50:24):
Yeah, my brother is the coolest. He's a really funny
writer and performer. And he moved to Sweden. He met
a woman who lived in Sweden.
Speaker 4 (50:32):
They got married at a kid and now he's been there,
god must be almost twenty years. He's like a full expat.
Speaker 3 (50:37):
He lives outside of Stockholm and like speak Swedish.
Speaker 4 (50:40):
No, it's so cool.
Speaker 1 (50:41):
I'm really trying to find a husband with another passport.
Oh yeah, like I do think it's time. It's time,
like and weirdly enough, like this is a pattern. I've
been going out with a lot of guys that like,
weirdly are also from another country and are sober. Ooh,
I like that for you. But it's really good, isn't it.
I don't even not even trying to date like sober guys,
(51:03):
and I'm not trying to date guys with like like
dual citizenship, but like it keeps happening. What what what
country would you like to Let's just put it out there.
I mean, I just like Canada or England. Okay, okay,
there are people there are Listen. I'm talking specifically to
people that live in Toronto and London. I suppose. I
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just we were in London and it was.
Speaker 3 (51:25):
So great, right, but be careful with that London weather.
That's all I gotta say. That London weather is like Sweden.
Speaker 4 (51:33):
It is dark. It is a dark, cold country. To
just be aware.
Speaker 1 (51:37):
I do well with overcast, you know what I mean,
Like it's I don't really You're right, I'm definitely a sunboy,
but like I've had enough of it. It's like I
go up on Long Island and I'm like a child
of the of the beach in the sun, and so
now I'm kind of like maybe I've had enough, like
for my life. I love a UK guy for you,
I think so with a scarf and everything. I don't
(51:57):
know about the scarf. You don't like the scar The
scar like a scarf and a like an overcoat, overcoat,
certainly i'd see when you said scarf, I when my
mind went to Ascott and I do no, no, can
I say? I do see some people out there trying
to bring back the Ascot and I'm not ready for that.
That's okay, that's that's like a winter, like a Jude
(52:18):
Law winter look like a like a what's the guys saying?
I love the winter? Look?
Speaker 4 (52:24):
You know the guy that did all the movie like
a Richard Curtis.
Speaker 1 (52:27):
Jude like from the cold we met at the Oscars.
We did meet with your your Curtis at the os just.
Speaker 3 (52:34):
A gentleman like shaking off the snow off overcoat.
Speaker 1 (52:38):
Yes, oh that's good. Okay. Now I'm like upset that
it's going to be springing somewhere because my favorite time
to date is the fall in the winter because it's
a cuffing season, because it's yes, but like I never cuff.
My thing is like I just like to be dressed
up for a date. And also maybe it's just of
what your body is doing. This is the dysmorphic part.
Speaker 3 (52:57):
What what I project upon you that I want for
you is a gentleman who's maybe a little sober or whatever,
just like not he's just like he's he's not the
main character. Okay, he's the one that's like just like
look at him, go.
Speaker 1 (53:12):
I do think I do.
Speaker 2 (53:14):
Do you subscribe to a flower gardener sort of duality
and relationships.
Speaker 1 (53:18):
Like one person is the flower they need to be
watered and gardened, and one person is a gardener and
they kind of that's what they do. It can't be
as simple as that, but that is a it is
a dichotomy thing that people sometimes think about.
Speaker 3 (53:30):
I think that's interesting because I would say, for you,
you're extroverted person, right, probably secretly more introverted than we
think you're, Yeah, but an extroverted person who I think
it would be nice for you to have like a
British Jude law looking gentleman who has the taxi waiting
(53:50):
while you work the room.
Speaker 1 (53:53):
As the taxi. Yeah, taxi waiting, And I love someone
that wants to leave. He's like ready to go love, Yeah,
Like I'm ready to go, ready to go love that rocks.
Speaker 3 (54:02):
Yes, there's actually nothing less sexy than someone who doesn't
know when to leave a party. It's a problem when
someone can't leave a party because they're just.
Speaker 1 (54:11):
Kind of waiting.
Speaker 3 (54:13):
I've gotten for this thing that's that hasn't happened yet
to happen.
Speaker 1 (54:16):
Yeah, absolutely, not absolutely, and it won't happen. It won't happen.
And also I'm the part like, yeah, hello, like what
are you waiting for the part of the party. We
have to ask the question. So this is the question
(54:37):
that we ask all of our guests. This is what
was the culture that made you say culture was for you?
Speaker 4 (54:42):
Okay, well, you know you were my favorite podcasts. So
I've thought about this a lot.
Speaker 1 (54:45):
As why I love this part.
Speaker 3 (54:47):
I love this podcast, and I thought about it a lot,
and you know, I didn't want to overthink it. But
I have to say, for me, growing up, there was
a woman who I just related to you. She she
just felt very strong. She had a really specific POV.
She kind of asked her what she wanted. She always
(55:08):
had good jokes, and that woman was miss Picky.
Speaker 1 (55:13):
You know that she might be coming on less culture,
she might be against we are obsessed She's one of
the top icons.
Speaker 3 (55:21):
She at a time when women were told to be
you know, seen and not heard. She took up space.
She was very body positive. She was, yes, at times
a little violent.
Speaker 1 (55:32):
We would we'd.
Speaker 4 (55:33):
Maybe correct that now there was some there was.
Speaker 1 (55:36):
It was almost always in self defense.
Speaker 3 (55:37):
I completely agree. She often saved the day, save the day.
She said what she wanted. She was like one big
intrusive thought. And if you suffered from those like I
did as a kid, you were like, I can't believe
she said that out loud. She was always funny. She
had really a good joke. Kermie loved her.
Speaker 2 (55:54):
She was the only person in him up at Christmas
Carol who stood up to Scrooge.
Speaker 1 (55:59):
What whenever she goes.
Speaker 2 (56:05):
Martial arts culture, respectful of Eastern culture.
Speaker 4 (56:08):
Okay, if you say so, I don't know, Okay.
Speaker 1 (56:12):
I'm you can enjoy. Miss Piggy's her highest respectful she was.
Speaker 4 (56:20):
She was such a funny character, larious, I mean funny, funny, funny, funny.
Speaker 1 (56:25):
Outsized diva who demanded that she get her shine. And
what was always great was the budget they would blow
out for her sets and everything, and how disastrously it
would go wrong. But yeah, it's still she still came
out on top. Yeah, they never she was allowed to, like,
I guess, like keep failing. She was a woman in Hollywood.
(56:45):
They let keep flopping.
Speaker 4 (56:46):
Look, it was the seventies, right, It wasn't perfect.
Speaker 3 (56:48):
So at times Miss Piggy like almost felt like, oh,
she's a cautionary tale of someone who's too But the
audience did not feel that from her. The Muppet Show
when it would come on and the dude get things
started and the song would start. As a kid, I
was like, this is Hollywood everything. This felt like this
(57:09):
was you know, I didn't know anyone that was an
actor or writer. I'd never seen anyone famous. Something about
The Muppet Show was like there is a place where
my jokes and what I like is going to live.
Speaker 1 (57:20):
And it was get ready for the show.
Speaker 3 (57:22):
It's like very ESNLNL SNL. It was my presinal because
my generation of s and all the people like I
was like ten when Eddie Murphy joined SNL and I
was like fourteen when it was like Dana Carvey and
Jan Hooks and Phil Hartmon.
Speaker 1 (57:37):
So that was but the Muppet Show was the first feeling.
Speaker 4 (57:41):
Of there's a show about to be put on. And
Miss Piggy was the star of the Muppet Show.
Speaker 1 (57:48):
Yes she was. She was the star. She was the she.
She told everyone what to do, and Kermie couldn't resist.
Speaker 4 (57:55):
I mean he was a little shy, and you know,
she kind have probably spoke for him in a way
that I think he liked.
Speaker 2 (58:04):
Well, yeah, thank you for putting some shine on Kermit too,
because Kermie, I think, was also just as valuable of
a male a masculinity comp yes that as Miss Piggy
was a femininity sort of example.
Speaker 1 (58:19):
Yeah, they flipped.
Speaker 3 (58:20):
He was kind of a soft boy also, though during
that time we also had people like Alan Alda and
mash Right.
Speaker 4 (58:27):
He was like so nice even though he was so
we had some sweetie pies.
Speaker 3 (58:32):
Yes, it wasn't as masculine all the time as people think,
like the seventies. There was some like groovy like you
know dads or even like Michael Landon who was like
tough but like loved his daughter and was kind of sweet.
But Kermie, Hermit was very in touch with his feminine side.
Speaker 1 (58:50):
Yes, it sounds like you have feelings for Kermie. You
know why I love Kermit.
Speaker 3 (58:55):
Kermit was a peacemaker, yeah, Kermit was a peacemaker, and
as I get older, I'm drawn to people men, especially
who are looking for peace.
Speaker 1 (59:04):
Oh yeah, all I want to do is feel calm.
Speaker 3 (59:06):
Me too, I want to feel calm. I want to
feel safe, and I don't conflict used to be the
way I'm an enneagram eight.
Speaker 4 (59:13):
Do you care about your anim that's right?
Speaker 1 (59:15):
Your seven? That makes sense? What are you in? Yeah?
So hard.
Speaker 3 (59:22):
No one understands you. You're very it's very hard to know.
Fours are like they're like special romantic. Yeah, fours are dream.
Speaker 4 (59:30):
Maker like that makes artists remind me eight challenger.
Speaker 3 (59:34):
Yeah, so I used to think conflict was how I
and it was often how I got intimate with people,
Like yeah, and now I want more peace, I see.
Speaker 4 (59:44):
And sevens are so.
Speaker 1 (59:45):
Much fun, you know, if we exhaust ourselves. Yeah, sevens
are require a lot, but they're so fun. Yeah, I mean,
I like, it's so funny because I and then I
looked at the results and it was like, whoa, I
didn't stand a chance. I was such a s like
it was it was I was thinking like, oh, I
don't know, these hits aren't going to all go together.
It was like you're a seven down the house down, yes,
(01:00:06):
And I mean I get that. It's funny, like as
I get a little bit older, like I'm also I
don't know if you ascribe to the astrology of it all,
but I'm also like a triple water signed double Pisces
cancer moon, which is like that, and a seven is like, oh,
we go and take up a lot of space.
Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
And also you're just gonna be kind of like, what's
the next thing, Like you're definitely for the adventure.
Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
I'm more along consumer. So you used to say that
about me all the time, beautiful excited, Yeah, and sometimes
that can get me into Yeah, I have a lot
of sevens in my life. I love them. For those
that you don't care about enneagrams, whatever, But they're enthusiasts.
They're enthusiasts. Yes, they love things and.
Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
They love having fun. But a seven is always like
you're like, let's go do this thing, and they're like
is it.
Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Going to be fun? And you're like, I mean, I
guess I fun. Hmmm.
Speaker 4 (01:00:51):
Fun is important. Newness is important.
Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
It's interesting to be the kind of person that's like
seeks excitement and seeks like to consume things and have experiences.
But then also have like an anxiety creep up because
it's like that's when you get you get, you get
in your head with a lot of like judgment, judgment, judgment.
I just that's why I want to be calm. It's
because I just want someone who's just gonna be like
it's okay, like you know what I mean, Like it's
(01:01:14):
it's you know what, Like this experience is gonna be
what it is, and then it's gonna be over and
then we're gonna have another one tomorrow. Yeah, but I
am sort of waiting, and I do think I haven't
really said this on the podcast yet, but I am
fully moving back to New York. I finally bought my
first place, and so like I I think that that
will be a place where I can like root because
I am looking for that. I think I deeply feel
(01:01:36):
like my next step is to just feel like I
can sit down and be comfortable in a place like
that would be nice if someone could be a part
of that, like down yeah toes down vibe. But it
is it's interesting that you say all that stuff, because
feeling calm is something I never thought I.
Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
Wanted because of same I always thought like that my
thing was to challenge and buck the system and kind
of like push and push. And now I'm really I
really feel lucky that I'm surrounded by a lot of
people who are not that way, who are like more
peaceful and peacemakers.
Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
And kind of like a little bit like it could
be this, It could be that.
Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
Like for the longest time, being definitive and like certain
and decisive, yeah, was like safety And now I'm like
luckily a little bit more like I don't know, yeah, you.
Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
Know, I think it's interesting because one of your like
I would say defining comedic and like public traits is
your energy. Yeah, you know what I mean. Like, so
I would imagine I identify with this that sometimes when
people like interact with you, they feel like they also
need to bring a lot of energy. And then there
you are meeting that and all of a sudden, you
exhausted girl, and like you're like, wait, hold on, yeah,
(01:02:47):
where was I in that? Oh? I was definitely talking. Yeah,
but what was I saying? Oh? Yeah, it's you bring
what you get, you know, praise for and credit for
and like notice, especially at a place I would imagine
coming up through comedy and like, you know, having to
make your way, like and being one of one in
(01:03:07):
many ways and then getting to SNL and then having
to like, I know, it started really well for you
pretty much like you kind of hit the ground running,
and then when you were in the main cast, like
kind of right away, right, yeah, pretty fast. Yeah, so
everything was happening really fast, but you probably had to
give it.
Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
Yeah, you know, we were like it was a different
time where there was less women. You had to kind
of you know, for those that are not watching them,
I'm saying, but you bring up something that's so true,
which is I feel like and getting back to like
your fifties and on. But I'm all about practicing my backhand.
(01:03:46):
That's my new phrase, which is my forehand has served
me so well. It is I've made a lot of shots.
I feel really confident. It's I'm very very grateful for
what it's gotten me. And now it's time to practice
my back And what is the thing that I don't
always give as much attention to or practice to, And
it's exactly that it's not depending on my energy to
(01:04:06):
be the way that people connect with me or like
or that like sparring or conflict is going to be
the way in which I can get something done, but
just like be a little bit more watery.
Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
And yeah, it's thinking about how you communicate textually, yes,
rather than literally, you're super textually where you're just like,
I'm going to communicate what I think by saying it
and write something like this where it's like.
Speaker 4 (01:04:30):
Well, this is a very fore answer you're giving right now, because.
Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
No, because you're right, you're saying like you're coming from
a feeling place and I'm coming from an action place.
Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
Yeah. Yeah, and that's a challenger thing. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:04:45):
So the four is like, how can I express my
feelings or have these feelings differently?
Speaker 4 (01:04:49):
And it's like, what can I do differently?
Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
Yea?
Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
And our work is to like, and I'm so sorry
if this is boring for anybody, our work is to
feel more.
Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
Your work is to do.
Speaker 4 (01:04:59):
More, less feelings, more doing, And mine is more more feelings.
Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
Less doing. Is Piggy and as miss Piggy and a, I.
Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
Think she is definitely an eight. Miss Piggy is kind
of an island. She is definitely an enny agreement. That
would be fun to do that with all the money,
I think. So I think Kermit's a nine. He's a
piece maker.
Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
Yeah, he has to be the hold the center of
that place. Yeah, he's like, hey, guys, wait, maybe Kermit's
my man and I need to piggy up what she
gets here. I'm gonna be like, listen, although I think
they broke up, didn't they break up to finish?
Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
Remember the ABC show they introduced that new pig girl.
Do you remember that, there's that new pig woman. And
she was swooping in and trying to trying, trying to
pick up Kermit, and the Internet lost their mind. They
were like, get the fuck away from him. She needs
to get the futod a chance against me.
Speaker 4 (01:05:55):
I gotta watch this.
Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
I did not I did not know that.
Speaker 4 (01:05:57):
And do you also remember how public television is so great?
Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
Sesame Street? Do you remember when Sesame Street? When I
was growing up, there was a character called Snuffle.
Speaker 4 (01:06:04):
Up Against Yes, okay, yeah, what then they took Snuffle
up Against away because it was frustrating kids.
Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
Yeah, because why why couldn't they see him? And I
was like, wait, but who said this?
Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
They say someone said that they took him away because
some kids, especially in the eighties when child abduction was
a thing, they were like parents would like it was
that like they wouldn't believe what kids were saying.
Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah show yeah. A kid didn't feel believed, right,
And it was at a time when you needed to
trust what children were saying, Like I saw a strange
man at the side of our street. You know, there's
there's like a lot of implications when it comes to
like PBS and children's programming. Did you ever get to
(01:06:48):
go down there to Sesame Street? And I got to
do something with Elmo, which is really cool. What did
you guys do together? We did like a word of
the Day or something.
Speaker 4 (01:06:56):
Yeah, And then you know, and when I like and
I loved growing up, I loved an Oscar the Grouch
alarm clock.
Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
I like he's a great restarch.
Speaker 4 (01:07:05):
Larry David owes a lot to Oscar. Yes, yes, the
alarm clock used to start.
Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
With it's gonna be a lousy day, wake up, It's
gonna and it was such a gen x alarm clock.
But you could never do that now. But yeah, I
love him, that whole Jim Henson world.
Speaker 4 (01:07:23):
I have to say it has permeated most of my
life because you know, also was in the beginning of
us now.
Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
But just like those muppets and puppets are everywhere in
my psyche.
Speaker 4 (01:07:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
Absolutely, we got to send up prayers up. What the
heck that was? Oh my god, that was Piggy Squeeze
come here.
Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
Yeah, that's that is stressful though, because have you ever
been with someone who's working a puppet?
Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
No, this is so we heard that. Like it's basically
what it is is it's like they can go for
like twenty five thirty minutes at a time and then
they need to short break.
Speaker 3 (01:07:58):
It's stressful. Yeah, I mean, God bless everyone who works puppets.
It's amazing, but it's it's intense. Right where do you look, right,
I guess you look at the puppet.
Speaker 1 (01:08:08):
I'm going to have no problem looking right in miss
Piggy's eyes. I'm telling you, I'm committing so hard.
Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
I know I might cry though, because I feel the
same sort of cosmic connection to her that that you're
talking about, which is that I'm like, she she was
my first glimpse into old Hollywood, unto like, and she's
like modeled after those actresses, and.
Speaker 3 (01:08:28):
She's modeled for like Peggy Lee, right, yes, yeah, and
she was also kind of like in drag a little
bit like a real vibe of like costumes and and
you always were going into her world and it was
like satin and she was very like she was very feminine, but.
Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
The show girl. She was a show She was the
last show girl with Pamela Anderson. I just think she's beautiful. Yeah,
And pigs have newly been become my favorite animal. Oh really,
And a lot of culture's pigs are really really revered. Yeah,
so smart? Are they one of the smart ones? Yes?
Smart days smart. So I'm like, now I'm liking this
(01:09:08):
new kick where I'm finding out about how deep the
intelligence of certain animals goes. Like I went on elephants
the other day, and now I'll never be the same.
I know, did you know that octopuses decorate their homes? What?
So the next time you go to, like, I don't know,
someplace on Larchmont and they're serving up a grilled puss.
That puss was a decorator. He was decorator. And Jeremiah
(01:09:35):
of the Seas and then can put up so much
ship lap so fast July, and my mom has revealed
how ses she is with Nate and Jeremiah. Watch Jeremiah. Incredible.
My dad was talking to me about and I was
on the phone with them, and my mom was talking
to my mom started watching Queer Eye and she was like,
(01:09:56):
because Jeremiah joined, Yeah, and Jeremiah and incredible edition. And
my dad says to me on the phone, your mother
is beaming ear to ear harder than I've ever seen
her talking about Jeremiah Brtt right now. She loves him.
Speaker 4 (01:10:11):
They also decorate in this beautiful aesthetic that does feel
like how do I put this?
Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
Like no one will ever live there? No, no, no, no,
like the tiling that they put it, like I watched there.
Like when someone is just like, yeah, so we ripped
out the floors, I'm like, what are you talking about?
Like in all respect, but I'm like I could never
be like I want to rip out these floors. I
want to re upholster now. I don't know what that
word means. It's hard. And also there is something about
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I love interior design. I love it.
Speaker 4 (01:10:42):
It's kind of like a I want to say, a hobby.
Speaker 1 (01:10:44):
But I love working with people and making spaces and
looking at making it. I love it.
Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
Yes, And I love looking at like magazines and looking
stuff online and I find just like what people think
is comfortable. Yeah, I is so subjective. It's just and
for me the I must rest, my eye must rest.
Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
Got it.
Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
So there's like there was like an organizing show where
it was like what kind of organizer are you?
Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
Are you? So let me ask you this.
Speaker 4 (01:11:10):
Okay, there's four different ways, and I'm gonna butcher this.
Speaker 3 (01:11:13):
But do you like a room where there's an open
shelf and like, you know, your plates and cups and everything,
you can see them floating? Okay, okay, this one where
you're like floating shelf and cups and organized, well, but
visit one where they're behind a cabinet, organized behind a cabinet.
Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
Those are two options.
Speaker 3 (01:11:35):
And then also do you like to have let's say
you're putting away your important piece of paper. Do you
want to have it in a drawer where you throw
it in in a drawer and it's worth all the
important papers and you'll organize it later, or do you
want to have a place that it lives every.
Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
Time that I see. I mean, here's my thing. I
don't like looking at cupboards. I don't like looking at
cupboards and shelves. I think I'm s o l Some
people like to see their stuff and some people like
to not see this. I think it could be interesting
to see myself.
Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
I am going to be that not see your stuff school,
because if one thing is off on the floating shelf
and it's out on display, it's gonna bug the ship
out of me. I'm never gonna feel I'm gonna have
that itch in my brain the entire time I'm looking
at it.
Speaker 4 (01:12:23):
Yes, and what about countertops tables?
Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
Do they need to be clear? Pretty much? Have to
be clear?
Speaker 4 (01:12:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
Yeah, a strong aesthetic. I mean he I keep telling
him that he should get a d over to his
place because it's so cute and cooling, bowing of like housewares. Yeah,
what about you? What are you doing? It? Would love
to do that? What come on?
Speaker 4 (01:12:48):
Everybody's well, you know what, I'm going to take my
own advice.
Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
It's never too late, it's never to wait to do what?
But what would just have a house? Okay? Wait, your
conversation with Tina about this? Don't you think? Open eyeglasses?
Speaker 3 (01:13:03):
I've been trying to get Tina to make money off
of eyeglasses for her entire life, but beside, she doesn't
want to do I understand, I respect it. She only
do what you want to do, but you could do
it too, bowing.
Speaker 1 (01:13:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
I'm of the same mind as Tina. I'm like, what
you get in her head because she said it. No,
I just I've always thought the same thing, like, there's
no practical reason for me to for me to do that.
Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
You know, I'm gonna sell whatever. Whatever, Yeah, sweat face,
I put my name on plastic water bottles. Whatever.
Speaker 3 (01:13:40):
No, yeah, only if you only if you'd be into
the design and into the aesthetic of it. But something
aesthetic would be interesting and fun.
Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
To work on. Perhaps perhaps watch the space. I can
see it for you. I think you're a huge brand.
Speaker 4 (01:13:59):
I completely agree, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
Yes, y'all, I completely agree.
Speaker 4 (01:14:03):
But at least get a d in in that house
and get them to walk around and your bowl of limes,
show them your bowl of.
Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
Wait, who love lines? I love limes? I actually do.
But but but she said I love limes. And then
afterwards she was like, I don't know why I said that.
She revealed later she doesn't know she does. She was
like a joke. Wait, now I'm actually thinking because they say, like,
just think of some images that you like and like
(01:14:34):
things that you want to see around your house. I
actually would love limes.
Speaker 4 (01:14:38):
I like limes are so good. Or how about this
a bowl of art chokes. If you put artichokes in
a bowl, you're a billion Really, yes, I guess that
is what that means. If you put three artichokes in
a silver bowl, you're You're done.
Speaker 1 (01:14:55):
I've always wanted to have bananas on the table. Of course,
you can do nothing. Stop. You can do that, you
can do that, you can't do that. I don't think
I don't think you understand what my has been like.
It's only now that I'm.
Speaker 4 (01:15:08):
Like, very seven. Okay, we write we need to root.
Speaker 1 (01:15:10):
It down seven. My life has been so seven. It's
been so like LA in New York, La, New York.
Where can I go next? Coach again this weekend?
Speaker 4 (01:15:19):
Leaving out of a suitcase?
Speaker 1 (01:15:20):
Yeah, very that And I can't. I can't, I can't,
I can't. The seven has to the seven has to
go to a nine peacemaker. Your space has to be
your space is important? Yeah? It is? Is it is it?
It is? What is your most interior designy motif? Yeah?
I love well, I love right now. My house is
a California ranch.
Speaker 3 (01:15:40):
So I do like that kind of a tiny bit
of Quaker Quaker's a tiny bit of Quaker craft. Like
I like a wood like I like a wood bench
with like a patterned cushion. I like like a nice
patterned rug with like a black sofa. I like a
warm tone chairs at mad warm tone table with like
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an amber light fixture. I like, I like a bit
more masculine, so naturally, and it's very masculine.
Speaker 1 (01:16:09):
I literally what I said to the guy who's doing
my apartment, and I was like, I wanted to be
like masculine but light, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (01:16:16):
Masculine can sometimes be like too much like steel, not
that you know the.
Speaker 1 (01:16:20):
Word, I said Redford, ooh, like it's kind of just
like it's giving, like like not denim, but like like
like yeah, warm masculine like wood, but with like little
light blue denimy touches like because they say look in
your closet, and that's like a hint as to what
you might want to, like, yeah, look like.
Speaker 3 (01:16:39):
And I'm leaning lately less mid century and more like
a little bit like worn and waspy y. I'm trying
to do more antique and flea pieces than new pieces.
Speaker 1 (01:16:50):
But your masculine is callback Alan Alda. My masculine is
Alan seventies sweet loves his wife. Because mid century is
kind of done. Don't feel like everyone was doing mid century.
Speaker 3 (01:17:04):
Sure, once I Dwell came out like and everything was
very like weird table and like, yeah, everything got a
little too mid century and it's very la total well.
Speaker 1 (01:17:15):
The first time in the first apartment I ever got,
I walked into West Elm and the first thing I
said was does it look like I don't belong here?
Because I thought like it was for fancy people. And
they said, no, what are you talking about? We'll help you.
And so, because I'm colorblind and have no taste, I
was like, I guess I like this. And I just
pointed to a display and they were like, you like
just this? And I was like, yeah, I think I
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like this for my living ground. They're like, you don't
want to change anything. I go, oh, yeah, the rug?
Which rug? Would you like that one? And that's what happened.
Great but but but they're not supposed to make you
feel that way. No, they did it. They were so
beautiful and lovely.
Speaker 4 (01:17:53):
I was telling an old story about yourself. I think
you do have a sense of stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:17:57):
I'm color blind. I know a lot of men are.
A lot of men are like, that's that's.
Speaker 2 (01:18:02):
Sorry, what do you mean that doesn't I was gonna
say that doesn't. I don't think that correlates to taste
or style.
Speaker 1 (01:18:08):
I have that very malleable in my settings, Like like
I live I'm subletting something in New York right now,
and the guy has like a crazy pink gallery wall
with all sorts of different coloral pictures on it, and
I've just been like, yeah, I live here and I
like it, and I have no.
Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
Idea whether or not I do orgy. That's a sub
lit reality. I'm I'm the one that's asking him, like
what are the spaces? Yeah, you like, where do you
feel comfortable? And I'm literally like, you should think of
your favorite restaurant at Disney World. I love being everywhere.
I love being in a sushi place, I love being
in Mexican spy.
Speaker 4 (01:18:40):
Yeah, but do you like like I like things to
feel nice? Yes, I love texture.
Speaker 1 (01:18:45):
So I have these two chairs in my living room
that are upholstered with them like that.
Speaker 3 (01:18:50):
Really fuzzy, like yes, the fuzzy stuff. Fuzzy stuff, he said, that.
And why I like is when I walk by them,
I like always.
Speaker 1 (01:18:58):
You set them, but they are clean. Oh but you
know that's okay.
Speaker 4 (01:19:03):
This is You're not going to be worried about cleaning.
Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
I'm covered in buffalo sauce most of the time. I
didn't tell you that I eat it. On the thing
we ran through my financials, I forgot about like ninety
eight percent of it is buffalo sauce. I have so
much buffalo sauce all my shit.
Speaker 3 (01:19:15):
You know you should do just do one room. Just
do one room, Like what would be your version of
the nice of a nice?
Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
Yeah, yeah, that's great, just one room. See what I
love is like also like I love when I go
to someone's house, like in the suburbs, and the living
room is like the beach and the bathroom is the ocean,
and that's just what it is. It's like almost every
suburban house is like my bathroom is the bottom of
the sea, you know, and that sea show.
Speaker 4 (01:19:41):
Well, I always say people's houses. People either want to
tell you where they've been or where.
Speaker 1 (01:19:47):
They are oh one or the other. They never tell
you where they're going so exactly, so it's like where
have I been?
Speaker 4 (01:19:53):
I like have African masks, and I have you know, sorries,
and I have like all this stuff that I've collected.
Speaker 1 (01:20:00):
We are in Denver, baby, and you're gonna know it.
You're gonna know that we are in Colorado, like it's
one or the other. Well, I think Matt has a
lot to work with in terms of where he's been
and where he agreed. One thing I don't want to do.
A lot of gay guys like in their first apartments,
they have a big gay picture, like of someone's tricep
(01:20:22):
or like someone laying on the beach. It's just like
this part of someone's I think I can. I can
forego big gay picture and never sleep on a plant
and a mirror. Plants have been something I never interacted with,
and I love a mirror. Mirror plant can change a
mirror in a plant and creates a large space. And
(01:20:43):
there's like AI now that you can put your room
in and it'll tell you all this stuff. It's increcb Ai.
We're going to fix that with the Yeah that have
you already spoken about it on the poda? We haven't.
So we've heard you guys say that our new profile
image for Lost Culture is us I am out of focus.
I I do see it. I do think it is
(01:21:04):
a striking picture. It's one of my favorite photos that
Bowen and I have taken. And I'm hesitant to change
it because Bowen looks so insane. You can't but I
think I look good. It's just that I'm out of focus.
Speaker 4 (01:21:17):
I think it's she This is a really interesting experiment
about how we see ourselves in how do we want people.
Speaker 1 (01:21:27):
To see us?
Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
Yes, yes, But I think it's also a statement on depth.
You are getting depth because this side of your face
is not it isn't focused, and then this side isn't.
Speaker 1 (01:21:39):
Yeah, my right eye is in focus. But you know,
don't you deserve to be in focus? I think I
do you don't you? Absolutely?
Speaker 4 (01:21:49):
It doesn't one deserve to be in focused.
Speaker 2 (01:21:53):
I'm bringing my foe energy into this. I'm like being
academic about.
Speaker 1 (01:21:57):
A lot of Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:21:57):
And also you're it's an incredible picture.
Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
It is such a good picture. Thank you, And it's
a great picture of you two. But I mean I
would try to get in focus.
Speaker 3 (01:22:06):
You had said maybe AI can get you in focus,
and you were saying, I don't know if I want that.
Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
Because I don't want to necessarily support AI, right right,
But then I got this, It's like you have to
just we have to just kind of like succumb our,
hands out. It's too late. This is all AI, everything, AI,
everything is. I've been AI for nine years. This is
going to be HI human. We are about to go
(01:22:31):
into I don't think so human intelligence part of the podcast.
So this is I don't think funny. This is in fact,
our sixty second second where we sort of tear up culture.
And you know, I've realized something. I was on the
drive home with Patrick Rodgers, come back from Coachella, and
(01:22:55):
a motorcyclist went by us really fast, and Patrick said
his mom's nurse and said, you know, my mom saw
the gnarliest things from motorcyclists, motorcyclists, and that was her
one rule. You're never getting on a motorcycle because I
have what I've seen in the er and one other thing.
Speaker 2 (01:23:14):
And this is what this is all the premble I
think you're gonna do. So that that was just the preamble.
This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so, honey, his
time starts now.
Speaker 1 (01:23:22):
I don't think so, honey. Trampolines, you don't need it. Like, honestly,
your kids don't need to be up that high. What
I would say is get like I don't know, like
get like a room, like a matted room, you know
what I mean. Like if you have a trampoline, you
can afford a trampoline, you probably have like a playroom
or a designated area where the kids go pat it
(01:23:43):
like a cell. Have the kids toss themselves all around
the room. That is better than trampolines. And also, let
me tell you something about people. People who have trampolines.
You're also good these days. People like, oh, in the
good old days, we could just who cared about the
nests on the trampoline? I could ride my bike to Connecticut.
You know what, I don't care. The good old days
stuff is problematic, like protect your children. Don't even get
(01:24:05):
me started on ziplines. Fifteen. You'll have some people with ziplines,
like from one tree to the other in their own backyard.
My dad made one for us, and we had a trampoline.
And I'm looking back thinking I'm glad I have my neck.
I don't think so, honey. These when I want to
say what my dad said to me to you when
I was little, I used to play with a stick
(01:24:25):
to the screens out if the trampoline over there, just
get to hit a stick, have run around on the
yard or in a padded cell. And also enough with
the video games because your brains are melting. And that's one. Well, wow,
I let my sister, I feel like the trampoline culture.
He lost the teens at the end with the video games.
I mean, I think I lost the teens so long ago. Yeah,
(01:24:48):
it's okay, it's okay.
Speaker 2 (01:24:50):
The teens are all about the slang has been video
games with Jen Alfan gen Z like side Quest and NPCs.
It's like this is permeating the culture with them in
a way that I'm I'm like y'all, but we we
all should develop a video game vocabulary on the basics.
Speaker 4 (01:25:05):
And I agree with you about trampoline.
Speaker 1 (01:25:07):
Yeah, none of my childhood memories include jumping on them.
None of my good childhood memories, you know what I mean.
I'm the broken bones. I know where you're going to
end up. The pit, the pits and.
Speaker 2 (01:25:19):
The wait time is long? Is that part of the
show A long times? There's a bed shortage. Oh, it's
a it's a messive god, it's a mess. It's stressful,
but it's real time, no scoring, grounded and acting.
Speaker 1 (01:25:32):
I couldn't believe it this morning, like when Patrick was like, yeah,
my mom said, it's insane. What you watch happens to
the human body on motorcycles. And then he was like
end trampolines and I was like, don't even don't even
keep going.
Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
I can't if you're gonna on kids, right, if you're
gonna ride a motorcycle. And this sounds a little insensitive,
at least go on the donor list, Well, yeah, at
least make they so I'm of course, of course, come on,
cut me open, get the cut me open and take
(01:26:04):
this stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:26:04):
Some of this stuff is good in here. Yeah, some
of this stuff still good. These Oh honey, someone should
I was noticing them. Are are we giving gray blue?
Well you know what I think we are. We're giving
wonderful all right, Well that was mine.
Speaker 4 (01:26:20):
That was incredible.
Speaker 1 (01:26:21):
Wow, this is hard to do. This.
Speaker 4 (01:26:23):
Third, I just have to say, because you guys are
so good at this.
Speaker 2 (01:26:26):
No, we're setting you up for success, and I want
you to chime in on mine after I'm done.
Speaker 1 (01:26:30):
We're during please.
Speaker 3 (01:26:31):
Please okay, okay, So this is have you ever done
someone's then they you've done what they were going to do.
Speaker 4 (01:26:37):
No never, I was sweating, oh yours because I have
a little bit of cross over tinyments. Okay, really that's
Goodmatically tied.
Speaker 1 (01:26:45):
Here is bone Yang's don't think so, honey, his time
starts now. I don't think so, honey. Standards and practices,
we should be able to say at least five ships
and five bucks on SNL per season because after this
whole ego otam miss Aggy, because these men ain't want
ship moment first of all, favorite moment of televised absolutely ever.
Second of all, we are so hampered in our comedy
(01:27:08):
at SNL by not being able to say shit and fucks.
Lest To and I talk about this all the time.
Let us say shit and fuck like it's us, It's Abbot,
it's ghosts, We're the we're the last network comedies.
Speaker 2 (01:27:18):
It's like, we can you give SNL an exception, an exemption,
like if we're dismantling the FCC because of Trump, Like,
can we at least.
Speaker 1 (01:27:27):
Can one boon? Can one can one silver lining be
that we get to say shit and fuck? And I'm
even keeping it to an allotment to an allotted five
and five five ships, five bucks. It would make it
would bring a sketch to the next level. It would
it would it would make it so that you would
be able to like know, oh, this is the real world,
that's not the heightened sketch reality. Shit and fuck are
(01:27:48):
so comedically powerful as words. I really think it would
help us. And that's one minute. Yes, so.
Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
I don't think anything came down, which I love, and
Ago is like, no, here hilarious, so funny.
Speaker 1 (01:28:02):
Don't you agree? When have it been this much more fun?
Speaker 3 (01:28:04):
And I'm going to say, NBC, I think you can
monetize this, Yes, why don't you have a competition and
people can vote like American Idol as to which cast
member gets to say the ship Oh my god, if
you want to say it, you know zero zero three
too on your phone and let Bowen.
Speaker 2 (01:28:24):
Say thank you, or if you want to monetize it
in a way that is like I don't know, like
go fundme coded, like just have a fundraiser for our
FCC fines and just help us cover our fines for
the five ships and the five bucks that we get
to say.
Speaker 1 (01:28:38):
You know, who should get to say it? Like whenever
he decides to stop Keenan on his last episode. The
whole ninety minute should just be him saying, whatever the.
Speaker 4 (01:28:45):
Well, you can treat it like vacation days.
Speaker 1 (01:28:47):
You don't use it, and it rolls over to the
next year. And then you used to say ten of
them yes exactly Saturday and rack them up. I really
like that. I never understood, and I actually I don't
understand because you can say you can say dick on
the show.
Speaker 3 (01:29:04):
It may offer one small counterpoint, yes please. I do
think there's something fun about not being able to say
it that causes comedic tension. Of course fun so you
it may the air may be let out of that
your balloon when you do, and you might not get.
Speaker 1 (01:29:21):
The juice that you wanted to use. You want it
because you can't have it. I feel like sh it's
not even really a curse word anymore. Come on, Like
over time, it's like who is actually bothered? If their
kids says ship? Who was actually bothered? Right? Fuck? I
understand is one thing. It's like it's it's it's a
I guess still it's a little taboo. But like ship
an ass well, you can say ass you can't say asshole.
Speaker 2 (01:29:44):
Yeah, you can say taint, but you can't know you
can you can't say tane because it's a part of
the body.
Speaker 1 (01:29:50):
Oh you can't.
Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
Yeah, we've we've had we've had standards notes on this.
You can say, you can say taint, but you can't
say like tat goots or whatever, you know what I mean,
because it's like it's not anatomically precise unless.
Speaker 3 (01:30:04):
The musical guess is named good and then you can
say ladies and gentlemen good once.
Speaker 1 (01:30:09):
Again, that would be that would be a hack. Anyway.
That's that's my, that's my. Oh yeah, that's a good one. Okay, Okay,
this is a moment listen. Okay is that okay, Yes,
that's okay.
Speaker 4 (01:30:22):
Let me see, let me see all right, I'm ready,
I'm ready.
Speaker 1 (01:30:26):
So this is Amy Polars. I don't think so honey.
Her time starts now. Okay, I don't think so honey.
Speaker 4 (01:30:31):
Horror movies, okay, Okay. Life is scary enough. I do
not need to unlock a new fear. I have a
very active amygdala. I have a decent amount of empathy.
Speaker 3 (01:30:42):
I do not want to watch a young couple have
to eat their own eyeballs to get out of a
locked room, okay, And don't tell me that it's about
the rush of being in the same room with people
and feeling social, because if you want to get that
kind of like social bonding, you need to go to church,
not a horror movie. And by the way, church is
(01:31:02):
another thing that I don't go to anymore as an
adult because I've realized it's not for me.
Speaker 1 (01:31:07):
Yes, there's three things that shorten your life.
Speaker 4 (01:31:10):
Motorcycle, I agree with you, smoking and violent images.
Speaker 1 (01:31:18):
And then lastly, this also means pranks. No pranks. A
jump scare in a prank is a hate crime. If
you prank me, that means you hate me.
Speaker 4 (01:31:26):
The only devil that I want to see on the
screen is the one that wears pradact You, Sulent, I am.
Speaker 1 (01:31:34):
With you everywhere hard. I went to go see the
movie Drop No. But can I say I advocate for
this movie because it wasn't and this is an all positivity,
it wasn't that scary.
Speaker 2 (01:31:46):
It was a thrilling, suspenseful not violent. You're talking about
violent images.
Speaker 1 (01:31:50):
No, Yes, I am telling you.
Speaker 4 (01:31:52):
I don't like any kind of scare.
Speaker 1 (01:31:54):
No scary. When people die in a movie, it's sad.
The world is too scary, the news is rough.
Speaker 3 (01:32:01):
I cannot handle my my nervous system cannot handle it,
and I could never handle it. And I just want
to say this, I did participate in pranks at one
point in my life. The patriarchy comes for all of us. Yeah,
we all, but I apologize and I have listened and learned,
and no more pranks for me.
Speaker 1 (01:32:18):
Honestly, we don't do We don't prank it. Have you
ever pranked? You know the No, And I want to
say I would never do that to you. This is
a real call out.
Speaker 2 (01:32:25):
There were some Instagram accounts Diet Prada did a whole
April Fools thing of like this is the casting of
the Britney Spears biopic Aria Grande Troy Sivat, and people
thought it was real and I'm like, April Fools, let's
just no.
Speaker 1 (01:32:39):
More right now.
Speaker 4 (01:32:41):
We can't afford it. No, no, no, we can't because.
Speaker 1 (01:32:43):
People really don't know anymore what's feeling, what's fake and
so to have a whole day of like fake as.
Speaker 4 (01:32:48):
But like when you look at the movies, it's like
you what do you want to see the gorge or
baby in the basket.
Speaker 1 (01:32:55):
It's like am I like, is this a punishment? Well, yes,
I mean it's literally I think it's well, there's a
whole community of people whose whole thing is like I'm
gonna go watch these movies where, like with The Final
Girl of It All, I knows six or seventy young
women are dead. No, no, when people die. You ever
see the movie Zodiac? I did see tough for me
(01:33:18):
because there's that one horrible scene. I know, he comes
and murders the couple in broad daylight. I know, are
you kidding me? It's also real it happened.
Speaker 4 (01:33:31):
God, why do we have to make everything a movie
about everything?
Speaker 1 (01:33:36):
True crime is so nasty?
Speaker 4 (01:33:39):
Why do we have to make If it was bad
and it happened, let's not make a movie about it.
Speaker 1 (01:33:44):
We can read about it. We can listen to podcasts
about it. See, but the podcasts are even worse sometimes
because then it's like it's all happening in your head.
You fill in the gaps image about true crime.
Speaker 3 (01:33:55):
Okay, So I had a moment, a true crime moment
because I'm a white lady of a certain age. So
I did have a true crime moment. But I can't
watch anything I see. I can read, read, or listen.
But I can't watch anything that's about true crime, like
any of those daily any and even softy stuff like
softball stuff, like I cannot watch it.
Speaker 2 (01:34:17):
The softy stuff count as does like cult stuff count
as softy stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:34:22):
Cult a cult documentary, Well.
Speaker 4 (01:34:25):
That one isn't as bad, but I don't understand people
that join cults.
Speaker 1 (01:34:31):
I can't relate even as Yeah, I was going to say,
you have a high cult sensibility. I'm probably the closest
I did.
Speaker 3 (01:34:40):
Like the one where the one yeah, because mother is
resting is when she asked for the chicken parmesan.
Speaker 2 (01:34:47):
I was just going to say, and this is my
He doesn't watch it, but I'm like my selling point
to him is like there's this whole segment in an
episode where they go through her recipes like galactic taco salad.
Speaker 1 (01:34:58):
I asked for a bottle job. These people like, where's
my chicken bat? Like it's amazing.
Speaker 3 (01:35:06):
The term mother is resting is incredible. I just like
walking in wingings and everyone is sitting by her bed
and it's like, I don't get it.
Speaker 4 (01:35:17):
I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (01:35:18):
It's tough. I just didn't want to see when I
heard it actually dead and blue in the Yeah, that
was really hard for my head around watching.
Speaker 4 (01:35:28):
Culture tough, But when a woman's in charge, it's.
Speaker 1 (01:35:30):
A little bit more fun. That is why it's fun.
I even get scared of like urban legends and conspiracy theories.
Speaker 3 (01:35:35):
Also, like when I was a kid, no spooky stories.
I didn't be like being scared. I didn't like I
do not like that feeling.
Speaker 1 (01:35:42):
Oh there was show Are You Afraid of the Dark.
This was on Nickelodeon when I was a kid, and
there was one episode with Tiya and Tamara, who I love.
The storyline was one of them gets like cursed and
turns it into a lizard, and then the lizard becomes
the other one, so like so it was this crazy
situation where was it scary. One of them was a
(01:36:04):
lizend and one of them was a real girl, and
they were played by Tia and Tamara. Tia was like
real and Tomorrow was like the lizard who had become
a human, and their best friend, who they shared was
like had to spray one of them with a hose
and the one they sprayed would turn into a lizard.
And the girls were like, it's me, Tiffany, It's me
(01:36:24):
you know, it's me. And she was like, Tiffany, don't
you remember the times you would have it recess? You do?
And then she was like and it became a thing
where she sprayed the one. There's a huge hug. The
last scene of it is we'll say it's Tia has
picked up the other listen and goes literally she didn't
say this, it was Nickelodeon, but she was basically like, bye,
bitch and threw her down a well, crushed her. And
(01:36:47):
that was the real one, terrify. And that was children's
entertainment entertainment that aired after Sesame Street. That literally they
expected me, as a child of the nineties, to hold
both these things that like miss Piggiest Queen and also
like and at each other's fucking throats. One of them
would see the other one dead, crushed at the bottom
(01:37:09):
of a well, and I that was entered. That was
like children's entertainment. Oh my god. In the goose Bumps books, R. L.
Sign he was around UCB for a while, you know
that a lot of as cats he came to. He
was like, he was, remember one time I was going
(01:37:31):
in maybe to do modern well. I think it was
I think it was like he had been part of
like a spank or something or like something was we
were coming in to do Modern Night and come down here. Yeah,
this is where it gets inside base. We gotta run
out of it. Did give us a run? Amazing Earth.
(01:37:56):
Maybe that's on YouTube. Maybe it's on YouTube. Well, damn,
I mean, I mean, this is so fun. It was
a good hack. It was a good hack. Congrats on
having the most successful podcast in the landscape. Thank you.
I hope someday you'll want to do it. We will
want to do it.
Speaker 4 (01:38:08):
Okay, come on, it would be my absolute joy if
you've been killing it, and I mean truly.
Speaker 1 (01:38:16):
The advice you know, we talked about advice before we leave.
Any advice for me, don't change a thing about it. Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:38:21):
The reason we've done this for so long is because
it's basically formally the same thing as episode one. Don't
add too many bells and whistles. I was going to say,
what you've innovated on in the podcast is starting out
with that panel discussion with the people who know your guest.
Speaker 1 (01:38:34):
I'm like, that's so damn it. That's really fun. Smart,
and just keep it exactly the same. Don't change your thing.
Speaker 4 (01:38:40):
Don't overthink it.
Speaker 1 (01:38:41):
That's the think. And also like over time we accumulated
more people because we started as like you know, you
started it, and immediately it was like the the like
everyone came and like you know, started listening. But over
time people started to have like notes for it. And
that's when you're like, oh, that's because everyone's gonna want
(01:39:04):
something different from it. So I would just say, like,
keep it fun for you, and like everyone's gonna want
something different for like I like it when it's people
from SNL or like I want to like when it's this.
I like when it's like anecdotes or this, Like just
keep having fun, stay true to yourself. Yeah, just the
most boring advice, but listen to your instinct. What is
(01:39:25):
your space? Redford Redford, red Redford All the seventies Queen seventies, Well,
we had every episode with the song, Oh what is
the song? Mmmm? It comes it's kept hold on hella,
(01:39:47):
hell baby, you call. I can't hear a thing. I've
gotten my service in the club. You see say what
what what did you say? Oh? You're breaking up on me?
Sorry I cannot hear you. I'm kind of busy. Kkana busy.
Maybe beyonestly will come out this weekend when we're there.
Shot Oo.
Speaker 2 (01:40:15):
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Speaker 1 (01:40:18):
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Speaker 2 (01:40:24):
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