“I’ve… Been Through” (w/ Ariana Grande)

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey everybody, it's me Matt Rogers, letting you know. Tickets
are on sale now to see me on tour, the
Prince of Christmas Tour, that is, I'm doing my whole
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with the whole band all throughout December. Go to www
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city near you.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
And now Lost Cult drums look mare, Oh, I see
you my own and look over there is that culture? Yes? Yes, wah,
Lost Culture.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Sing don last culturistas calling tactile is fuck coctile eff.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
I've been smiling and beaming all day. I woke up
with a giggle. Oh my gosh, I sort of left
out of bed, and then I looked at myself in
the mirror, and then I immediately got sad because I
think I'm actually developing a sty blufferitis.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
No, it's if you develop a sty you just nip
it in the butt and you put rice in a sock,
you put in the microwave for thirty seconds and then
you just warm.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Is that there? Are all right? Good? I was all
nervous today because so I literally was so excited for this.
I got a facial. Yesterday, I got a facial for
the episode. Oh fun. I went to the Equinox Spot
and Hotel. I love ten Yards really the best area
of New York. Remember when I was looking for an
apartment in Hudson Yards. I don't think I gave you
any guph for it. I was like, if that's for
Matt's happiest Matt belongs at the theme park of New

(01:22):
York City all And this is what I wanted to
tell you, Yeah, are you what do you?

Speaker 3 (01:27):
How do you feel about Rockefeller Center making a real
play at being the only real technical zoned theme park
in New York because that's what they're trying to do.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
As the Prince of Rockefeller Center, I actually have to say,
we actually are the royal court of Rockefeller Center. If
you think about it, we're the gestures in the court.
So as a representative of the zone, I couldn't be
prouder of my sisters who are making that place a
theme park. They really are.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
It's ticketed rides, you got to strap on a seatbelt.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
You know. I've gone to the top ye in Rockefeller
Center and like go on the beam and it spins around.
It's very thrilling. You would love it? I think not
yet though?

Speaker 4 (02:06):
Is that my cue?

Speaker 2 (02:06):
No? Yeah, never mind, don't worry. So if you sort
of just like heard the voice, no, come.

Speaker 5 (02:14):
On, I just need you to stay.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
You got it? How would you like me this way?
You actually meaning to your right, which you feel natural?
Can we go touch to our lefte? Yeah? Yeah, guy,
I'm so sorry, just the tiniest mean, I'm getting a lot.
So what do you want me to do?

Speaker 3 (02:29):
I just need you to yes, of course, so much perfect.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
No, it's okay. I'm really glad.

Speaker 5 (02:34):
It's that and not what I thought it was.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
She was coming in like we gotta get out of here.
Come on, un coat came in and I was like,
something's happening.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
You had the energy of like it's an emergency.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
Well yeah, that was emergency energy.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
The way the hair moved was urgent, gorgeous. It was scary,
excited and scared.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Here we go. No, we're back. We're using all of it.
We're using all of it is being used and I
won't even.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
The part where I got a little snippy. It was like,
I'm getting a lot.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
What do you want to know? Honestly? Like that's authenticity. Moment.
And that's why people love Lost cults with Matt Rogers
and bowing, because this is a real ass show. Oh yeah,
and that was a real moment. And here's what I
really want to say. You've said the theme park thing.
Do you know how I spent my morning. I've been
thinking about the Wicked theme park ride all day. I've

(03:25):
seen the film, and I want to unveil, like what
I think the experience of the theme park ride at
and at the Universe, at the Universe. Put it in
between there's a spot for it. You put it in
between Super Nintendo World and the Dark Universe. I thought
that's a perfect meeting for Wicked. It's Emerald City, slash
Oz whatever they want to do. And I can't wait
to pitch to our guest my idea for the theme

(03:45):
park ride, the story of it. Okay, because I know
we're with one of the true girlies. We're with one
of the true Floridian girlies. Let's bring her in. Talk
about your pal. She literally saved my life. If I can't.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Even look at you, fucking love you. She's the legend.
She's playing Glinda in Wicked Part one, maybe part two.
She's playing Glinda. You'll have to wait to see what
happens at the end of Act one. Does the character die?

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Who knows the imagine the twist of like they killed
Oh my god, they really took a swing. That sucks.
We loved her performance in the first if the Munchkins
in munchkin Land. It's like a dark Wicked, Like the Dark.
Our guest is a singular talent and icon. I mean,

(04:36):
I am a fan. I've always been a fan. This
is surreal. I can't believe she's here. I mean Eternal
Sunshine one of the albums of the year, like to
say nothing of everything else she's ever put out. I mean,
I can't believe this is happening. It's the film of
the year, Wicked, and this guest you're about to welcome
into your ears is the one, the fucking only.

Speaker 5 (04:58):
C Yeah, I've attempted to do been every third sentence.
That's sort of so sorry, I know, but it's just
been so tempting.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
We really work our guests up and then and then
they chime in and then they're ready to go.

Speaker 5 (05:08):
Okay, soy, pitt, Hi, thank you for having me.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
This is a blessing and a half and three quarters
know this is perfection. Okay, do you want to know
the Wicked theme park ride?

Speaker 4 (05:19):
Tell me now?

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Because you want this to happen.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
Of course I do, and I have ideas as well.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Okay, so let's collab. I think you go to like
it's not it's the Emerald City and the vibe is
like Glinda Live Today is going to address everyone, the
Aussians like, it's like we're all going already taking It's like, okay,
so it's.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
I'm thinking about what when we're gonna have to shoot that?

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Oh god, yeah, you'll figure it out.

Speaker 5 (05:44):
I think about that sometimes, you know, shooting.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Like the theme park roll.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
Yeah, shooting like you know Hermione being like don't forget
to wear your seat belts. Yeah, you know that that vibe.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Sometimes I feel like are they still doing that? They
to go out to like d Radcliffe and're on a
contract and they're locked into something. Can you do your
Hermione impression? Do you know what I'm talking about?

Speaker 4 (06:07):
Wrong?

Speaker 2 (06:09):
That been spleech All right, Sprange there is what is that?

Speaker 5 (06:20):
No you call?

Speaker 2 (06:23):
I know the vocal phrase, it's so good local what
the fray? Oh my god?

Speaker 5 (06:29):
I love it so much.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yeah, Okay, So Glinda is it today, Glinda is address today,
Glinda live like it's you and then like we as
the guests coming in are going to like see the
speech and then something is like happening.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
So this takes place between Wicked one and two.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
Okay, so in that that's fun.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Like so it's like we believe that Alphaba's like like
there's signs that are like get the witch, you know
what I mean. Like, and then like we get in
the ride and I don't know that they like the
rest of this, but like that's the setup and like
you are like get ready to speak, and then there's
like weather Weather Steve start to move. We think it's Alpha,

(07:07):
but but we know it's.

Speaker 4 (07:09):
More of Michelle going yeah, yes, don't let her get
her way.

Speaker 5 (07:15):
If that's the best shot on the whole thing.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
When she turns and the monkeys go, oh my god,
it's the best shot of any movie I've ever seen
in my life. She's so hot, she's so beautiful and
regal and powerful.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
And when she goes Wicked Witch.

Speaker 5 (07:33):
Yes, what a choice to get quiet Wicked Witch.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Oh, I love's brilliant. I've seen it. I'm blown away
by the movie. And it's just like you guys, just
to leave the fake world of the theme park right now,
like we'll figure it out like t K t K
theme park ride. The very real film is so brilliant
and like you know it, you know it. You Wickeds

(08:01):
is a film about Fanny. He's a gay boy. He's
a gay boy who wants to make it big in
the world, right yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
He knows that the media landscape of oz is not
ready for a very homophobic city homophobic.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
The best video in the world, if you rehearsing it,
is that it's been in my drafts for two years
of him his little pink like cap over your hair
because weren't ready to film yet with your little clips
in and he's like half in wardrobe, half in like
some cute like bowen thing, and he's just like what

(08:39):
did he say? Wait what matamor will say? Mustn't get
all right? Fine, I'm gay? Z be the most interesting
thing about Yeah, I've watched it three hundred times.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
How do we feel about the original person who read
for Fanny at the table read for Wicked? It was
something Foster? What have I desecraated Sutton's name?

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Wait? No, what are you talking to like in.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
The original sort of like tailor d for Wicked, before
any of the shows, any of the whatever, any of
the Sutton Foster. They had Dina and they had Kristien,
but then they had Sutton Foster as Fanny.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Fanny.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
That is the most important thing I've ever heard.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
That is so spectacular, like two thousand and one, or
did I not know that.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
I didn't know this either until people like we're sending
to me.

Speaker 5 (09:25):
Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
I mean she's going to be so floored and proud
and absolutely.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
You could run. And I've been saying it's brilliant in
this film. I mean he lights up, He lights up
my life every time you come on the street. And
I'm like, in a word, period, just.

Speaker 5 (09:43):
So incredibly brilliant.

Speaker 4 (09:44):
And I also just want like a string out of
everything you said, because I just I really do.

Speaker 5 (09:50):
I want to string out. Let's bring string outs.

Speaker 4 (09:52):
I love string I want to string out of everything
he said on that Setee I got to see last night,
Cynthia and I went to go do like watch along
and make commentaries.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Oh fun.

Speaker 5 (10:05):
But while we were there, they showed us deleted scenes.
Oh and I got to see I've been through.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Oh my god, talk about that.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
So they did a spoiler alert. They did cut the
scene where Glinda meets Fanny and sheenshin again.

Speaker 4 (10:20):
But it's very cute and you will get to see it.

Speaker 5 (10:22):
Oh really, you will get to see it's coming out because.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
I want to see it. But that was my one notice.
I was like, well, who are are?

Speaker 4 (10:28):
We kind of just made it all up, kind of
just like John was like, all right, you guys meet here,
uh huh, and maybe you do a little you know,
and we were like, perfect, we'll do it. And so
we did the weird dance thing whatever it was.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
We did the weird dance thing.

Speaker 5 (10:41):
And then I, oh, how are you guys really?

Speaker 3 (10:45):
And yeah, so so aria is. Glinda goes, so, how
are it's been so long? How are you guys really?
And then I for some reason made a choice to
go I've I've been.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
Through, and we said I've been through for two years.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
After that, I've been through and then and the other
with the other phrase was I have had I.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Have had candle.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
Scandal, I have I have, I've been through, I've.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
I've been through.

Speaker 5 (11:14):
Which I've been through I've been through is not it.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
I've been through.

Speaker 5 (11:18):
I've been through, just I've been through and we just
all collapsed. It was so ticklish, it was so funny.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
There was the coolest waitress I used to waitress with
would always say, oh my god, that person is so
and never ever said the word after.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
That's the safe thing to do, very safe.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
You know how she was so?

Speaker 5 (11:41):
And then you get to you know.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
Exactly, Yeah, it's an invitation for more projection.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
It protects and projects.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
Yes, it protects and protects. Wait, but you I've been
through is so funny to me because that's like minute
three of the film.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
It's too much. It's so funny.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
I understand why it's cut because it makes no tonal
sense with the rest of the film.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
This it lives on its own, but in the most
brilliant way, the same way that I don't see color
lives on its own.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Do we think do we think that that comes to I.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
Know, it's so funny and it's so brilliant. And it
also was like, yeah, we're commenting on what we're commenting
on in this film. It's actually the most brilliant comedic
way of saying, yeah, that's what this is about.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
I can't believe.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
I find it miraculous that that stayed in the final
It's the best.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
I was hoping and praying. I had literally my fingers
and Toest Cross that was sitting in the audience watching
for the very first time, and I literally John Chu
was sitting right next to me that he was like,
thank you, thank you.

Speaker 5 (12:46):
Yes, I was like, thank God, thank goodness.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Honestly, Bowen Yang ad libs in the final cut.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
You guys, there's something terrible about an ad lib that
you do on suck because you're with like a friend
and you're disarmed and you're you're being stupid, and then
you see it and then you go, well, fuck, a
good jillion people are gonna watch me do this stupid.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
We have a lot of feelings about it as well,
and it you know totally. It's like once you once
you leave the set and you're like, the fuck did
we just.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Want to that's what we filmed?

Speaker 6 (13:19):
Right?

Speaker 5 (13:19):
I hope anything's okay?

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Yeah, wow.

Speaker 5 (13:22):
I feel like a blacked out for two years and
now I'm like.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Oh, right now the people are come in, come on,
are going to sit there and be like, we have
a lot of feelings about what this has always been
to us, and now this is the film which is.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
Such a beautiful which is such a beautiful blessing and
responsibility to have as people who also love it and
have lived for this for twenty years. I have done
the research, like read the L. Frank baumb books and
and done their homework and have lived it and loved it.
And you know, it's such a beautiful celebration and we welcome,

(13:57):
we welcome the feelings.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
We wasn't the feelings.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
I'm a fangirl with those feelings about the things I
love totally.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
Of course, to quote the show, I ask you a question,
what is this feeling now for you? Like so sudden
and new, So sudden and new, it was like two
years of your life where you were like monastic, You
were a monk being like I'm gonna be so disciplined
about this, and now I feel like it happened yesterday,
and now all of a sudden, we're like, oh fuck,
we have to like in a way like relive what

(14:24):
happened and then also like package it into a way
that like feels good for a sound bite, right.

Speaker 4 (14:28):
And promote and sell the thing. And it's just like
it takes this transition from being this intimate, really real
feeling thing to us talking about it like it's a product.
And it's a very strange shift. But I'm really trying
to hold onto the humanness of it all and kind
of just like let that be what we talk about
because it's so exciting to.

Speaker 5 (14:48):
Be able to talk about it. So it doesn't feel
like a press tour.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
The way it has maybe when I was doing it
for music or something like that, because it feels, I
don't know, it feels a different for a million reasons.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Do you know.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
What we kept saying when we shot it was like
it feels like we're shooting a little dye.

Speaker 5 (15:06):
A little student film, a student.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Film, right, Like all of a sudden, there's like a mark, Yes,
I'm stepping on tape to do it, Like it's never
been done like this before, and yet we're committing it.

Speaker 4 (15:17):
Yeah. That wall broke when there was like a man
on a hang glider with a camera in the sky
and they said like Daily Mail on a parachute. We
were like, oh, oh shit, yes, oh sure, sure, oh it's.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
That Yeah, So someone flew in to try to get
like footage people. I actually saw it on Twitter, and
I was like wait what there was like literally like
hundreds of yards away, like yes, I think you could
hear you doing your like color torah.

Speaker 5 (15:43):
That was one of the rehearsals.

Speaker 4 (15:45):
And they were like all the way across the water
there was a little like river pond thing.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
Yeah, and there was a body of water.

Speaker 4 (15:55):
One thing about Ariana, she knows her bodies of water.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
She knows.

Speaker 5 (16:00):
Yes, she'll talk about it.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Yeah, I will.

Speaker 4 (16:04):
Across the way there was across the brook, over the brook. Yes,
there was a ladder. There was there was a guy
with a.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Cat, said a flying gay guy with the camera from there,
We need you for the shot. Damn it. It was
a guy.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
It was a guy standing a drone. It was a
guy standing a drone up.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (16:30):
But my favorite thing about it was like I was like,
I'm easy, peasy. I was like, oh, it's you know whatever,
if Mark doesn't have a problem with it, or John
is okay, like I'm going to just like do my job.

Speaker 5 (16:41):
I'll ignore it and I'll block it out, blinders on whatever.

Speaker 4 (16:44):
But like you know, a lot of people were concerned
because it's a big deal, you know, for that to
come out before it's supposed to come out, but no one.

Speaker 5 (16:52):
Really cared.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
What are they going to do exactly?

Speaker 4 (16:57):
And I was like, yeah, totally. I mean I think
I heard that there's people and I think I just
saw saw some stuff and they were like, oh, well
from the top, and I was like, oh, that's amazing,
that's really cool. I was like, if you don't care,
I don't care exactly.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yeah, that's nice.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
Yeah, freeing, and we love and we bless the people
who's concern and job it is to like make sure
things are like secure and safe and like that. Absolutely,
but sometimes it is like other people kind of like
working you up right into thinking that it's a huge
problem when you're like when deep down like in your person,
you're like, oh, it's fine, Like I'll just keep doing
what I do.

Speaker 4 (17:33):
Yeah, And we were all kept very safe and like
there was never any sort of like danger in that way.
And there's only so much you can do when we're
shooting on these like massive outdoor sets. Yeah, so instead
of having everyone stressed about it and become like anxious,
like you said, and you know, if there wasn't anything
that we could do, we just start to have fun
with it. Like when the drones would come me and
the munchkins would be like hello, and then I started

(17:55):
like taking my want and be like okay, that's enough.

Speaker 5 (17:57):
Yeah, trying to make it fun, but you.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Know, crazy, when did this happen? Like when did you
guys know it was friendship and not just like a colleague.
I enjoy I mean I.

Speaker 4 (18:08):
Was so so over the moon excited that you were
going to be able to see it.

Speaker 5 (18:14):
I called Lauren, is that okay?

Speaker 3 (18:18):
That I almost like, you're comfortable?

Speaker 4 (18:21):
Well, because I knew that it was a huge, massive
ask and also probably an impossible one, and I didn't
have anything any sort of resolution to pitch him, but
I just called him and I was like, hi, lone,
Oh my goodness, how are you? And he was like, Warrior,

(18:44):
is there anyway? Is there anyway? And I was that
was the most nervous I've ever been.

Speaker 5 (18:52):
But you know, yeah, we made it work.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
He made it work.

Speaker 5 (18:56):
You made it work.

Speaker 4 (18:57):
You exhausted yourself and worked yourself to the bone.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
It's the only time that I've ever pulled like a
poudy face in front of him to be like I
really want to do this. And then he was like okay, okay, we'll.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Do that again. Because it was cute as fuck.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
I was like, I really want to do this, and
then I did.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
I basically did.

Speaker 4 (19:16):
It was really tough. Would you put yourself through?

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (19:19):
You were amazing regrets And I think the answer to
the question is the minute you got there, I was
just kind of like, oh my goodness. I hope that
he is having the same experience that I'm having because I, like,
I really want to be friends.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
It was a star shower when I saw you when
we met for the first stars the stars exploded. It
was at Leavesden. We're doing rehearsals. Yes, and then I
remember like I was in my little room. I was
reading a book and then you came in and no,
it was so perfect.

Speaker 4 (19:48):
I was too excited.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
No, you weren't.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
Cynthia came in and gave me brothers and she was
so fucking sweet. I'll never forget it. And then and
then you came in and then like it was like
I just like it was a meteor shower around you,
and I was like, this is so fun. I think
the moment that it was like friends, I think was
when we watched Mommy Dearest together and then VHS.

Speaker 5 (20:07):
Yes, yes, Ari loves you.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
Guys don't totally align on this. But Ari is a
huge horror freak.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Oh you're a horror freak, I am.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
And the way.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
You said that is a huge horror That sounds bad.

Speaker 4 (20:20):
No great, I've heard a lot worse. But yeah, no
that's lovely. Thank your kindness, a mass of kindness. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
What's your horror pick? What's what's the best horror film?

Speaker 4 (20:34):
I don't know. I really like what.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
Give it? And you loved v AHS And I'm just
thinking because I watched Smile last night alone in my
apartment two or one Smile one because I want to smile.

Speaker 4 (20:46):
To smile, I would go tonight, let's go as soon
as we can.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Wish and how would you?

Speaker 4 (20:50):
How did you feel?

Speaker 2 (20:51):
It was? Disturb it?

Speaker 4 (20:52):
It's a good one, really good one.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
I do Socie Bacon love so so she is a talent.
She's a talent. But god, that ending is crazy. Yeah,
it's a lot.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
So I love that.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
I love that.

Speaker 5 (21:02):
I love heart Wait apparently well, because.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
Apparently Smell too also ends in a way that you're.

Speaker 5 (21:07):
Like, yeah, let's go, let's go. You don't like those I.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Get really anxious, upset, scared out, frustrated, and I got you,
you got me, You're protect me out there. You know
what I do do though? What haunted house? And we
just did the sickest talk about this. We were truly
in the woods in Pennsylvania. Were in Pennsylvania, Okay, yeah,
so Studie Bowen and I went just to like get

(21:32):
a little fall moment. It was like an unassuming haunted house,
like it's like, oh, this is like in the middle
of nowhere.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
It's not going to be like those are the ones,
Those are the ones, are the ones, Those are the ones.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Because there wasn't that many people there, which meant the
groups when you're traveling through were small. It's not like
Halloween Harry Knights where it's like you've just signed.

Speaker 4 (21:53):
You just signed like waivers and stuff.

Speaker 5 (21:54):
So we did what I'm saying, That's.

Speaker 4 (21:57):
What I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (21:58):
When there's no waivers, all bets are off.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
But usually usually though if they touch you, you're supposed
to have signed a waiver. We were getting really harangued
by these people and I loved every secondment.

Speaker 4 (22:10):
But that's what I'm saying. There's no waiver in place,
so they really cane Wi.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we were in the wild Poconos. That
the craziest what the house you can think of? I
want to go now. It was what fortnutes long? How
was it?

Speaker 3 (22:24):
I swear to God, no breaks, no breaks, relentless horror.

Speaker 4 (22:30):
Did that take up?

Speaker 5 (22:31):
It was a big was it like a two mile yeah?

Speaker 3 (22:35):
Big big footprint, like a compound. Basically it was we
stayed at this resort and and like the guys like
as they bring in, they're like, okay, guys, so it's
a bunch of actors, but like they're just doing their jobs.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
So those people work in the kitchen at the resort.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
They said, like, these people were in the kitchen, so
it's like los so we we were like, okay, so
it's loose steaks, not at all.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
It was insane.

Speaker 4 (22:56):
Well they're letting it out.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
They're letting it out, they're letting it out. Oh, the
screams were not safe. Let's just say they came from here.
Like it was like a woman flying out of a corner,
Like like what it was you, I'll do it. It
was like this. It was like, get out.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
I love screaming.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
The only way you can respond to that is with
a scream at that level yourself. So we were just like, a.

Speaker 4 (23:24):
Right, I love when you scream.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
How do you feel as the professional, celebrated vocalist.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
What is your sure you? Is this?

Speaker 1 (23:35):
That is?

Speaker 4 (23:36):
I needed that?

Speaker 3 (23:37):
What is your opinion on screaming? Because some people it's
a device?

Speaker 2 (23:40):
How do you scream like that? Like that? Wait for
that to have happened in the second way, By the way,
we saw how she screamed, and it's like this. Oh
it was giving the soft palette. Yes, she cleans up
her own eyes. Look, everybody, Oh, I loved getting my god.

(24:15):
What is your opinion on screaming?

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Do you know?

Speaker 2 (24:19):
Listen, you're a Halloween horror Nights and something. She kind
of did it social.

Speaker 5 (24:25):
No, that's not my, that's not my that's not that
I think it's.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
Like you don't have to do it. I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
I'd like to. I'd like to, I'd like to, please,
thank you. No, I'd like to.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
No.

Speaker 4 (24:36):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (24:36):
I think it depends on the context.

Speaker 4 (24:38):
But screaming is weird because sometimes I guess I subconsciously
scream in a healthy way because sometimes after I scream,
like there were several scenes in Wicked where there's lots
of screaming, and I was like, oh my, I love screaming.

Speaker 5 (24:54):
But afterwards I felt like warmed up or something.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
So maybe I subconsciously scream healthily, but I actually don't
know that I intentionally. Yeah, I mean like there are
ways to do it, but I don't think it's something
I choose when in fear totally?

Speaker 3 (25:10):
Does this inspire or motivate you to do a horror movie?

Speaker 4 (25:14):
Like? Well, you know, it depends on the context, depends
on the script. I'm not like a gore for the
sake of gore personally. And I also like, I don't know,
I want I would want to do a great job.
I want to do an incredible job. So it really
depends if I could lend myself to the character in
a way that I felt would be really purposeful and great.

Speaker 5 (25:36):
Yeah then sure, but you know, I'm a project.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
But I like horror that is thoughtful, Yeah, thoughtful, not
just blood.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
For fun totally? What would you categorize BHL blood for fun?

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Blood for fun? Would you categorize VHS as? I don't
have to talk about it really, right?

Speaker 5 (25:56):
How did I make you watch that?

Speaker 3 (25:57):
Because you were being a good friend and I was
going through a hard time.

Speaker 4 (25:59):
But that's it's like not the thing to watch when
you're going through hot time. It's so anxious to it
was cathartic. Did you feel better afterwards? You sure weren't
thinking about whatever you came there thinking period.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
And also we did really scary. We didn't enjoy that.
We did not that we didn't enjoy the whole thing,
but we did not stick with it because that's at
a certain point I've.

Speaker 4 (26:18):
Never seen the whole thing. Yeah, I just VHS because
it's vignettes, and I love the first vignette because this
like fierce goblin woman like rips seven dicks off and
flies you're goin.

Speaker 5 (26:34):
She's just like it's.

Speaker 4 (26:36):
Really cool splits and she's gorgeous and cool and like kills.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Are you going to see the substance?

Speaker 4 (26:42):
I am going to see this. I'm dying to see it.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Yeah, I heard it incredible. Everyone I'm talking to that's
seeing is like, I can't stop thinking about it.

Speaker 5 (26:49):
I need to see it. Yeah, I'm really excited.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
Se October thirty first on movie, but that's.

Speaker 5 (26:53):
Not my favorite horror film.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
I feel like, yeah, that's going to like lead people
to think I really I don't know. Would you like
to have a favorite Would I like to address this problem?
What's your favorite heartor film?

Speaker 3 (27:05):
I'm not a huge I don't know it too well.
I'm not very literate, but I think I'm going to say,
oh God, recently I really.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Did love Are you gonna say what?

Speaker 4 (27:16):
No?

Speaker 3 (27:16):
No, not the Hills have Eyes, No girl, no way.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Not that the one that was it was like the
demon came out of her head, the one that was
on HBO mad. You know what I'm saying, magnant. Didn't
you love Malignant? I didn't seem like malignant? What was
the other one?

Speaker 4 (27:33):
It's such a joyfully chaotic it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
See I appreciate complete insanity back when I was watching them,
like if it would get completely absurd, Like I loved
saw the first song.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
Right because it's so brilliant.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
It's brilliant, brilliant, the way it comes together in the montage.
I was like, oh my god, I didn't know I
was watching art.

Speaker 4 (27:52):
I can endure that much gore. If it's that smart,
If it's that smart, I love it so much.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
Yeah, just to switch gears, I really have to apologize
to you in person for what I opened my mouth
up too much.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
When we kissed on.

Speaker 4 (28:08):
You absolutely did. I was shaking no, no, no, no, no,
not in a bad way, not a bad way, in
just like a disarming way, because you know what, like
the recursis was so good. Oh my gosh, thank you.
I mean it comes from a.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Real place, you know it does.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
But I kissed you too too much, you know what.

Speaker 5 (28:26):
That's okay, And I know we were really dropped in.

Speaker 4 (28:29):
We were dropped in, dropped in and it felt like
what these people needed at that time. It felt like
what these characters.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
It was motivated required.

Speaker 5 (28:38):
Yeah a little, I'm all for it.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
I just should we talk about like how we arrived
at because there was not a kiss originally.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
Right, No, there wasn't a kid, which was well that
here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
Go where you go?

Speaker 1 (28:52):
You go?

Speaker 4 (28:53):
No, I mean I when we rehearsed it a little,
I don't know. Yeah, in my head, I was like,
I didn't say thing because I like, oh, everyone's to
think I'm absolutely insane and too comfortable. But I was like, oh,
funny if we kissed at the end, and then Bowen
texts me a few hours later, I was like, it's
totally fine. This is way too crazy. But we were

(29:15):
talking and thought it would be so funny if we
kissed at the end, and I was like, wow, what
if we kiss.

Speaker 5 (29:24):
Yeah, I was like wow, I was thinking that. I'm
so sorry.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
We're immediately on board. Yes, So do you rehearse it?
Do you do it in dress? Or like? What's because
I always feel like with rehearsing a kissing, Oh it's
I've only had to do it a few times, but
it's like the rehearsal of it is like are we
doing it? Like what is it?

Speaker 4 (29:43):
It's like, shit, are we reading for real? This time?
We kissing this time?

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Right?

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Not?

Speaker 2 (29:49):
So what was it?

Speaker 4 (29:50):
We kissed in the dress rehearsal.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
We kissed in the rehearsal, but in me and I will.

Speaker 4 (29:54):
Admit we had a very grown up conversation about it,
said we're doing it or not?

Speaker 3 (29:58):
We did have a grown up conversation just like that,
a little.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
Talking about how she comes out.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
Or not.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
Well.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
I also, I think in the grand scheme of things,
I was maybe a little over eager because to run
through on Saturday. So so on Saturdays in the afternoons,
I go, I go. I was like, so should we
do it? I did say do you want to do
it for run through? I said, I phrased it in

(30:28):
like a leading way of like should we and you
were like.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
Shall we kiss?

Speaker 4 (30:38):
I feel like, well, because there was we talked about
maybe waiting till the real thing, just just to like
sween it and see how it was. And I was like,
let it be on the live you know, but then
we were like, no, let's let's be adult. Lets rehearse
it just so we know how it feels, not have
that surprise on live television.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
And so your take on it and just talk to
me as so his mouth was a little too open.

Speaker 4 (31:03):
No, no, no, that's it came from him, not for me.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
But you you acknowledge you said you absolutely did open.

Speaker 4 (31:07):
It was absolutely to open.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
It was a little open chemistry.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
But for the characters, I think it was perfectly open.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
I would agree. I was watching it and I'm thinking I.

Speaker 5 (31:18):
Did start shaking giggling.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Yeah, yeah, well you got it absolutely. I broke.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
I was like, this is yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
I always seemed incredibly purposeful and motivated, and it felt incredible.

Speaker 4 (31:31):
As long as that's how it felt for the audience, Yes,
it's all good. Here.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
Have you ever told beef here.

Speaker 4 (31:38):
It's official.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
I'm happy we put into bad.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
Thank you me too.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
Can we quickly brief about how a sen was for you?
Because that was that was a top tier, a plus,
all time perfect episode.

Speaker 4 (31:58):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
That's it really was.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (32:00):
I had the time of my life. I would have
done it right after we finished at one am. Again, like,
I really love being there.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
I love every single person there, Like I just had
the loveliest best time with everyone.

Speaker 5 (32:13):
And I love laughing, I love comedy, I love bits.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
You're so good at it. Thanks and also you can
take it leads from a joy that you have to
do it and like a motivation to like work hard
and get it right. And I also can't believe you've
only hosted twice. You give the energy of someone that's
been there, and again it throws like how good JT
worth the show back in the day of like you know,
coming in, Like what do you think it is that

(32:38):
prepares you to do something like Saturday Night Live? So well, Oh.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
My gosh, I don't know. I mean that's really nice.
I think I find like a comfortability and getting to
know everyone.

Speaker 5 (32:51):
I love getting to know people.

Speaker 4 (32:52):
When I come to a place, I want to like
befriend everyone and be open. And when you're meeting all
the writers and collaborating with everyone, everyone is super just
kind of open and talk about where you can go,
like trying things and whatever. It just is a really
safe and fun experience. I don't know, it's like constant,

(33:16):
but it's the best and it's so much fun. And
I think I just love comedy, So maybe that is
like why I was so excited to go, and I
felt very excited. I think when it comes to doing big,
exciting things, sometimes you know, it can become like a scary,
daunting thing. But if you hold on to excitement and

(33:40):
gratitude and let that like fuel the whole experience, it
can really change the tone of everything.

Speaker 5 (33:44):
It's something I like learned.

Speaker 4 (33:47):
In my late twenties. But no, I don't know, it's
just it felt really.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
Oh yeah, rock confort.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
Texting with Bowen constantly having having a literal best friend there,
and in the weeks leading up, I felt like I
was bothering you because I was it's my turn to
apologize now. I felt like I was. I felt like
I was blowing you up because I I couldn't stop

(34:15):
like texting insane like ideas for bits and like silly,
silly things, and I was just so excited to get there.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (34:23):
Maybe that's why I think when you're excited about people. Yeah, yeah,
it shows I don't know almost.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Like it's like it's like and with Wicked too, and
I was just gonna like pose it that maybe like
when you get the audition for Glinda, right, that has
to be a thing where you're like, holy fuck, Like
it's something I've thought about for a very long time. Yeah,
Like it's one of those roles that's going to be
someone's going to get it and it's going to feel like, yes,
incredible that person, but like a little part of you

(34:52):
is like, oh God. And so when you get that audition,
I wonder is it all just like joy and like
how do you approach the comedy of something that's so
iconically done and like you respect but you bring yourself
to it because you do do.

Speaker 4 (35:07):
That, Yes, thank you. I think it's kind of like
it was one of the most important parts to me
was finding that balance between like honoring the iconic Glinda
that we have had on our on the soundtrack for
twenty one years and the role that was like written
really by Winnie Holtzman and Kristin Chennaw with like, you know,
honoring what made it so iconic, which is like the

(35:29):
original material and you know people, while also.

Speaker 5 (35:34):
Kind of like bringing myself to it.

Speaker 4 (35:37):
And it's interesting because knowing something and being a fan
of something for such a long time is very different
than having to become it and sort of take it on.
So I don't know, I mean a lot of just
like trying and playing and reading the script one hundred
times fully through even before the audition, like not the
movie one, the Broadway one, so that sort of you know,

(36:02):
choices of my own could come through, and finding new
truth to little beats and moments that play differently on
stage because this isn't the stage show. And finding that
balance was of course the most important thing because I
know as a fan of it how important it is
to walk that line. And that's really all you can
do is the homework and also trial and play. I

(36:25):
have my amazing acting coach, Nancy Banks. You know, we
did a lot of playing and grounding my vocal placement
and even finding like okay, like what inflection, how far
do we want to go with it? And older vocal
versus younger Glinda vocals and the tonal shift when she's
young versus when she's old, and.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
You know, incredible playing in that regard to like, I
have to say one of my favorite things about the
movie just holistically, and I think it's so funny that
you guys didn't chemistry test because the chemistry is two
is just nuts. And one of my favorite things about
a vocal choice in that movie is that Cynthia is
like singing her whole part very clean until you get

(37:12):
that note and it has so much gut in it.

Speaker 6 (37:15):
Well it is a war cry, yes, and that that
like ends it, and you know that everything has changed
in the way that note is sung and that intentionality.

Speaker 4 (37:26):
Is just brilliant.

Speaker 5 (37:27):
Yeah, it's so beautiful.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (37:29):
I was in the room. I got to be there.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
When she actually like was doing it, Like you mean
the studio you had to hear.

Speaker 4 (37:35):
Her singifying gravity. I mean I was there when we
cheated the rehearsal tracks. Yeah, but you know I was
also on set when she was flying above me singing.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
You know, you had to wit and you had to
be there to witness it. And also just like this
is not a spoiler, but it does cut to Golinda
pretty frequently during that moment, and I think the way
because you have an impossible thing to do in that moment,
which is just to like internally project that outward as
everything in your world and your circumstances changing, Like even

(38:07):
hearing you just talk about the prep and the consideration
that went into this, like you have the most expansive
knowledge of this character, and like, thank God it's you
because you're like rising to every occasion with it, like
you rose to the audition obviously in such a storied way.
Like I love the lore behind it now that people

(38:28):
know about and I just know, Yeah, it's fucking amazing.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
You know that the movie is like about you forget sometimes,
like especially seeing it now in the way that you
guys have like made it brand new, like you really
remember what it's about. And it's about like speaking truth
to power and how hard that is. Yeah, and what
your character is going through. What Glinda is going through
at the end of at least this movie, is she's
not able to be strong enough yet to really be

(38:56):
a face of like dissent and rebellion, Like she's seeing
a truth and she's it's like the journey that you
have to go through there of like I know what's right,
but I'm just not there.

Speaker 4 (39:06):
It's also just like a different I mean yes, but
also there's a different version of that, which is that
she is strong enough to know that she will never
choose that because she can't she doesn't have the tools,
and she knows what is important to her.

Speaker 5 (39:24):
Yes, And it's.

Speaker 4 (39:25):
Like it's not that she's not ready to do that,
it's just that she's not a person who's going to
do that. And having the strength to know that the past,
Oh my god, annoying. I'm so sorry.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
No, I'm so curious about what you're No, it's.

Speaker 4 (39:43):
It's just like emotional because it's like, of course it's
acting and I'm not gonna you know whatever.

Speaker 5 (39:48):
We hit our marks and we do our thing and we.

Speaker 4 (39:50):
Sing our songs and we do what we're supposed to do.
But it really felt so real, and it feels how
it feels in real life when you really love someone,
but the paths that you need to take for your
own truth and life and who you are, it's like
you can't actually you can't actually continue growing together. You're

(40:14):
growing apart, and you can still love that person, So
much and acknowledge that that's going to be best for them,
but it's not going to be best for me. So
I do have to not self abandon in this moment,
and I have to stay where I am and I
want you to go there, but I can't do you.
So I think it's certainty. I think she's really sure
in that moment, and I think that that's strength.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (40:38):
God, I don't think that it's that she's not strong
enough to go. I think that she's strong enough to
not go right.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
Because there were This is not to switch gears, but
like there were so many moments. There was one moment.
I think it was during that I've Been Through I've
been through. It was during the I've Been Through scene
where like we were just like ad libbing and like
I was, I forgot what I pitched you, but I
was like, okay, maybe like we do want to dance
from S cool and like I don't know, Like I
pitched you a line and then you you looked me

(41:03):
in the eyes and this is done with such love
and care in respect. I pitched you like a stupid
fucking line of like like we do like an accent
or something, and then you just look at you looking
dead in.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
The NiFe, and you go, I'm not gonna do that?

Speaker 4 (41:19):
Did I?

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Really? It was so funny.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
We were dying laughing because I was like, of course,
I was like, it was like, this is me playing
too much.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
With my friend.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
I was like, she's gonna do She's playing Glinda and
the Wicked movie.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
I can't tell her. I can't tell her to do bits.

Speaker 4 (41:35):
Well, yes you can, but literally we always tell always,
we always.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
We always did that.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
But at that point, it was like, you know, four
months in the Strawberry Bush, the strawberry Bush broke.

Speaker 4 (41:46):
Me and John can't find it, but I've been I've
been anxious to see it forever.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
So in the scene when it's Dyloman's classroom and he's
in Leman's getting the lecture about like the history and
like what happened and right, food, food grew scarce and
people were angry, and then what's the line, like what.

Speaker 4 (42:04):
Do people people were looking for? And she's like something
to someone and then something to whatever.

Speaker 5 (42:10):
But there's one about food.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
There's one about yes, yeah, yeah, yes, the Great Famine
occurred and people and people wanted to people were were
very peven.

Speaker 5 (42:19):
We're looking for something to.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
People were looking. Angry people look for and then and
then Alphaba says someone to blame.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
But then it was on our coverage on our character
reached out of me, Bronwin and you. We did an
a lib.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
It was like and and because he mentioned the famine,
and then what do angry people do?

Speaker 2 (42:37):
What do people try to find? I'm that I'm.

Speaker 4 (42:43):
Literally he said, like a strawberry bush and smacked him, laughing.
I literally strawberry's my paper because it was hell. It
was so good. I wish I wish it.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
Were somewhere, find it, find it, strawberry.

Speaker 4 (43:00):
Strawberry bush was incredible. And also so was when NASA
flies up in the in the sky scream. I know
that's your scream, and that's your scream, and everything is
flying around and things are falling and the thing falls
on the ground.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
I know how it was the best time.

Speaker 5 (43:28):
It was the best thing ever.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Before we ask you the question that it's the central
question of this podcast, I also want to say one
other thing, which is that this scene of the year
for me is dancing through life when she comes into
the Osta sport. Yeah, and that that moment, Wow, can
you talk about shooting that, Yeah, like, what what was
that experience?

Speaker 4 (43:48):
Well, I mean, I love, first of all, I love
the little shot of her peeking around the corner like
with her little hat and she's so excited and whatever.
But it's just it's hard to describe because how it
feels to watch picture that a solid twelve hours of
that that particular section. The main bulk of it was

(44:14):
like one and a half days, but it was like
one and a half days of utter pin drop silence,
and every single person in the room was absolutely just
right there with Cynthia and kind of holding a very
warm space, you know, for how much she was giving
the whole time. And it's such an isolating and painful scene,

(44:40):
you know, and even if you're acting, you know, it's
just like it's such a heartbreaking feeling. And I had
such flutters and butterflies that whole day, and it's just
like holding space for her and then having this guilt
and this realization that I'm responsible for this, and just

(45:03):
sort of like looking at a friend and trying to
course correct it just so much. It was a really
intense day and I feel the same feelings when I
watch it back that I did in the room on
the day, Like, yeah, it was. It was a really
intense day and she's so beautiful in it. And I
just remember at the end of like the twelve hour

(45:26):
me and Mark and John all just like took her
aside and we were like and yeah, it was just
a very very very powerful, emotional day and she did
such beautiful work and everyone just held the safest of
spaces for her. And yeah, I like feel it when
I watch it back, certain scenes, like when they start happening,

(45:50):
my body has like a physical reaction, like when she
peaks around that corner, I like get anxious for what
I know is going to happen because I know how
it felt on the day, and I think that's a
sign of what beautiful work was done, because I feel
like when you watch it back, you feel how it
felt in.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
The room, and it's a wonderful reminder that you were
so dropped in and present in that in that span
of time, which was a very long time. And I say,
I say four days because it was like with all
yours stuff.

Speaker 5 (46:19):
Oh yes, yes, with the dancing and stuff.

Speaker 4 (46:21):
I'm talking about this parting about.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
The loneliness of that Cynthia is going through up I'm gonna,
you know, have this dancing moment and everyone's watching it
being like, what's happening, and it's your realization that like,
this is a human being who I've heard and now
I'm going to show up for her. And the really
wordless connection that you guys foster in that moment is

(46:46):
so beautiful and everyone's gonna love the movie so much, obviously,
so so.

Speaker 4 (46:51):
So unfathomably spectacular, so great.

Speaker 5 (46:56):
The choreography.

Speaker 4 (46:57):
I actually, even though we rehearsed it like once or
twice before that day, said I never learned it. Like
I didn't want to remember it because I just literally
wanted to be like following her hands and like letting
her lead the way, because I felt like the more
awkward it looks on Glinda, like the more beautiful it

(47:19):
can be. You know, we're both just like little like
wild deer greeting each other and trying to figure out
how to speak the same language. And it's so beautifully awkward,
and I love it very much. It's very I loved
her very much.

Speaker 5 (47:37):
And yeah, it's a ride.

Speaker 4 (47:39):
This movie. Going from that into popular is such a ride,
and then back again and then back again, and you.

Speaker 5 (47:44):
Know it's just like it's it's a wild ride.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
The popular is everything.

Speaker 5 (47:49):
I want to thank.

Speaker 4 (47:52):
Thank you. Wait, can I just share one more of
my favorite memories from the Osdas Ballroom. Yes, other than
the fun stuff that we did, the dancing and everything
in the osdesk, we had so much fun in the
It really was like a week there, really was.

Speaker 5 (48:03):
It was a week, yeah, I was.

Speaker 4 (48:04):
Yeah, but they gave us these like universal iPhones for
behind the scenes stuff. It was actually only one and
I think you and you and Bronwyn had.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
It for that whole week.

Speaker 4 (48:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I just remember the vibe that
day and and you both being like not no time,
like you know, like this is intense and everyone's like like, Okay,
we're at the dance is happening, Like no, we're not.

(48:38):
It's not the day actually.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
For that, And I'm so excited. Biggest today is that.

Speaker 3 (48:47):
We're about to group bully Cynthia Rivo For three days straight.
I was like, are you kidding me?

Speaker 4 (48:52):
They were like, are you guys getting fun stuff?

Speaker 5 (48:53):
And it was like no, no, no, not today. In fact,
not today.

Speaker 3 (48:57):
It was like universal social media people doing their job.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
Give it being so commed. Not because it also is
a little bit of your characters, like because your character
doesn't get it. And by the way your your you
play a really good natural bully. You really say your coverage.

Speaker 4 (49:15):
In the ass. I remember I got to sit behind
the monitor and watch you and bron Win experience that,
and it was just so beautiful.

Speaker 5 (49:27):
You too are so brilliantly hilarious.

Speaker 4 (49:30):
But also just everything was so palpable, the shift, the
it was so funny and so beautiful.

Speaker 5 (49:38):
And I love to have I have an iPhone video
that whole take if.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
You like it.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
Oh my god, because you had the it was the
univers my personal one.

Speaker 4 (49:44):
I filmed everything that happened from the whole tears.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
That was against the rules, but I'm very honest. You
would say, he sent me some videos from the set. Yeah,
what can I say? Yeah, well, it's over going to
do edit you out. Oh I hope not.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
I perished the thought, but I not to place myself
in that moment, in that scene, that very intense scene,
but like I kind of feel a degree of that
same thing where I watched it back and I was like, god,
I feel like absolute hit because even in doing it,
because acting is acting whenever, but even in like bullying
Cynthia throughout this movie, Like, there were so many times
where I went up to her and I was like,
I'm so sorry. This feels so rotted in my soul

(50:20):
to treat you this way. I think it's just a
testament to like the way she's being so completely raw
and beautiful and vulnerable in every frame of this. And God,
you're both. You couldn't ask for two better people to
do this.

Speaker 4 (50:33):
That's beautiful and good.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
Let's asking the question.

Speaker 5 (50:46):
Okay, I'm sorry, what is the Why are you apologizing.

Speaker 4 (50:49):
Because I did?

Speaker 5 (50:50):
I'm taking us miles back. No, I still have so
much more to say about everything.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
We'll talk about it. We got to talk about What's
the one question, the one question that we have to
ask you is what was the culture that made you
say culture was for you? If you can look back
in your life and you think Ari Grande became Ari
Grande as a result of this, influenced this thing in
pop culture, this moment, whatever it is, can you speak

(51:17):
on that?

Speaker 4 (51:18):
Yeah, I mean I think musical theater.

Speaker 5 (51:22):
Yeah, like I think Sherry Renice.

Speaker 4 (51:24):
God, Wow, my answer, I love that answer.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
I did.

Speaker 5 (51:30):
I mean I loved the soundtrack.

Speaker 4 (51:32):
I was really little. I don't think.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
I actually I saw it with Tony Braxton, but oh
my god.

Speaker 4 (51:36):
Were no, but I saw I saw her dirty rotten scoundrel,
and I remember being like, that's life changes. Yes, to
see she's the best in the world.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
Yeah, you look at someone doing musical theater at a
level like that and you're like, oh, well, I'm watching
the most talented person on earth.

Speaker 4 (51:53):
Yes, I mean her and Kristen and Sutton Foster and
just these like ladies who I grew up just listening
on repeat and just like my musical theater goddesses.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Does it feel like yeah? Absolutely?
And I guess my question for you is like, you know,
I'm watching Wicked and I had that feeling of like, well,
she needs to act more. But then also at the
same time, it's like you are probably the most like
just important, gifted, like relevant pop artists. No, but let

(52:30):
me say it because I believe it. And then I'm
then you're like, does Broadway fit into that, Like is
it something that would make sense for you? And is
it in your heart to actually go to the stage
and do that?

Speaker 5 (52:42):
It's it is my heart, you know.

Speaker 4 (52:45):
It is like I'm going to say something so scary
it's going to scare the absolute shit out of my
fans and everyone, but I love them and they'll deal,
and we'll be here forever. I'm always going to make music.
I'm always going to go on stage. I'm always going
to do pop stuff. I Pinky Pram. But I don't
think doing it at the rate that I've been doing
it for the past ten years is where I see

(53:06):
the next ten years. I think I love acting, I
love musical theater. I think reconnecting with this part of
myself who started in musical theater and who loves comedy,
and it heals me to do that, finding roles to
use these parts of myself, you know, and put them
in little homes and characters and bits and bass and

(53:27):
songs like it really does in a different way than
songwriting and writing about my own pain, because it's just
kind of like constantly reliving that one thing that you
wrote the song about, or that is, you know, and
finding a character and putting the pieces there, finding it
a homes for them there, and then them coming back

(53:47):
and feeding you and teaching you new things through performing
the act of being Glinda. Whatever you know, and taking
pieces from her back. It really feeds you. And I
think that I would love to and whatever makes sense
or whatever roles that we see fit or where I
could really do a good job or honor the material,
I would really love to because I think I think

(54:08):
it's a lot better for me.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
Yeah, I hear you, but I want you to know,
like when and I've been listening to I listened to
you all the time, but like so many of my
favorite songs of yours, I can tell are unbearable for
you to put out there, Like I listened to I
won't even say the song title. I mean, I imagine,
I mean like I hated you, Like I had such

(54:34):
an experience, and I have my own theories about like
what we can't be friends is. But I think the
video like is something that spoke to I know, me
personally and so many people in such a visceral way.
And there's that moment in the video, which by the way,
is the video video and everyone knows it. So there's

(54:55):
that moment where you hesitate in the process of having
your memories removed, and you're it's like I don't want
to let go. I'm actually uneasy, Like maybe my pain
is really important. And if I lose that, like where
am I going next? Like it's scary. And I think
that that's such a specific thing to get across, but
like has to be painful to literally fixate on the

(55:17):
idea of eternal sunshine, because the idea is that we
want to we feel this way, we want to create
something called eternal sunshine because we're fixating on wanting to
remove those emotions, right and yet here we are literally
performing them. And I think that you're so sensitive and
such a you know what, you could say, cancer vibes
or whatever, but like you're so in tune to your

(55:39):
work and you're so giving of yourself that it has
to feel fucking exhausting. And so if you have other
talents and other like interests, like I get that I
love you back.

Speaker 4 (55:49):
That was such a thoughtful parade of like thoughtfulness, I
love you thinks I don't.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
Yeah, yeah, I hear.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
You that he's got the thoughtful thoughtfulness.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
Well, I mean, I don't.

Speaker 4 (56:00):
Know, but talking but no, I guess what I'm saying
is like the thing is, I'm not even asking you
a question.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
I guess I'm just acknowledging and seeing and I want
you to know that as your fan, like we just
want you to feed yourself and like do what makes
you feel good and evolve, and you are evolving like
like in this movie. Like I'm telling you, like Noma
are gonna cry, Like I just feel like it's so

(56:30):
amazing to see someone do something that were born to do,
like and I don't know, I've always felt like, especially
because you've been such a good sister to my sister,
I just like I want you to be happy and
I'm sorry, man, oh my god. Okay, I feel like
I feel you know, you're just but this is like

(56:52):
what you do. You're such an available, open, emotional person
and I deeply.

Speaker 4 (56:57):
We're for taking the risk. I think my chair is
like cemented to the ground.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
No, no, okay. That remind me of when I did
Celebrity Will of Fortune with Paula Abduel. She's so small
that she she would do the wheel and that we
would take. She's in the middle and like I'm here,
like this is Faula. She goes all right, here we
go away and like her leg went up.

Speaker 4 (57:33):
Can I just thank you for saying that, just because
it was so incredibly kind and I really appreciate it,
and I am going to carry it with me. Art
also is what feeds me, So in whatever capacity it is,
I'll always be doing and creating six different things at once.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (57:49):
It's just I don't see that going anywhere. I just
see it kind of like shifting and becoming a little different.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
My chapters, you know what I mean. Like there's I'm
thankful to you for Positions because that was my album
for the Pandemic and I'll look you in the eyes
and oh my god, I'm telling you, there's not a
better piece. But like, yeah, I did it.

Speaker 4 (58:22):
It was beautiful, the characters needed it, but yeah, thank you.
That's such a funny thing the life cycle that album
is taken, because when it came out, it was kind
of like.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
It didn't go so well in a soft way. Whereas
that think you there had been such moments or do
you no, no.

Speaker 5 (58:41):
No, no, not even like that.

Speaker 4 (58:43):
I just mean as far as like what my fans
were saying, and like I feel like in the beginning
of the Positions of it all, like it kind of
was I got a little I'm not going to like
use this word and bully, but you know, you know, Yeah,
I just got like a little bit of this is
not what we want vibes, I think, and I remember

(59:04):
that really.

Speaker 5 (59:05):
I'm such a sensitive artist.

Speaker 4 (59:06):
Whatever, Yeah, this is the point you put ours there
so that people can tear it apart and do whatever
they want with it or celebrated whatever. I understand. I'm
very grateful in an acceptance to be here. When I
preface this, I need to preface it with that because
I know it comes with being an artist, but I
also am a cancer and very sensive. So I just
remember that really like put me in a cage of

(59:26):
like judging every single piece.

Speaker 5 (59:28):
I like scrapped so many things that I was like gonna.

Speaker 4 (59:31):
Put out for it, and now people are just they
love it like it's the best thing I'll ever make,
And I'm like, what is that?

Speaker 2 (59:38):
How is that fair? Sometimes, especially when they really get
worked up in their heads that we're going to get
a certain thing and then it's a little different.

Speaker 4 (59:46):
But I love them for it, and it's okay. It
it's fine, and it's not mine anymore. And that's the
thing that I also have to say, because I am
aware it's like a part of it, and I'm grateful
for the voices and for the passion I am, I
really am you release it and.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
Then of course, and so this is what makes you
a true realized artist is that you you You are
incredibly emotionally intelligent. You're I think EQ You're You're the
highest Einstein. I think that like every artist, not every artist,
but like it kind of is this fun little jewel

(01:00:22):
now and everyone on every artists like Crown where it's like,
oh you you you put out a body of work
that ends up being at the time mischaracterized or misinterpreted,
and then over time it develops the patina and people
were like, oh my god, this is this was always great.

Speaker 5 (01:00:39):
It's strange to watch happen.

Speaker 4 (01:00:41):
It's kind of interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
But I feel like with what you're saying about being
an artist, Like, I mean, we've had conversations about this,
especially when a Turtle Sunshine came out. We're like, god,
this is a really everything is so considered. And I
was even watching you do your makeup video for The
Boy's Mind and I'm like, and I want it to
is the stupidest question, but I have to ask you, okay,

(01:01:07):
because because you're so good at makeup, do you have
an interest or have you explored drawing?

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
Like you're so dexterous with your like like you you're
able to know No, look at me, like.

Speaker 5 (01:01:29):
Dray draw painting me today.

Speaker 4 (01:01:33):
He brings out a diesel and some oil paints. I
actually I paint. I paint with my dad sometimes, do
you like little like paint and SIPs sometimes watercolors? And
I painted for Cynthia. Actually I painted a cute little
thing of munchkin Land and it's like the tulips with
the yellow brick road up the middle, and then there's
a little bubble in the sky and there's a green

(01:01:55):
like cloudy behind it and a little tiny little elf
and the monkeys behind. So I painted that for her.
But I don't have that much time to color a
paint side. I don't, but I love to and I'm
very creative. My dad is like an artist in every way,
graphic designer, photographer, a painter. Yes, and he's super creative
in that way. And I thought, that's so nice talk

(01:02:18):
to me about painting coloring.

Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
Right, that makes sense to me, Like you're with the
hands amazing love a coloring book.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
I love a coloring book, especially like when it's a
funny concept.

Speaker 5 (01:02:32):
The one of oz for Cynthia.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
Yes, And the thing is the way I said that.
And the thing is is that when you get like
a wicked coloring book, like you kind of think like, oh,
I know what everything should be, and so then you
just do it your own way. Suddenly Alphaba is not green,
she's purple for once.

Speaker 4 (01:02:53):
But my mom recently was like, oh is that a
coloring book? Is that she came over and I was
like yeah, and she she self proclaims.

Speaker 5 (01:03:05):
Yeah, I haven't seen one of those.

Speaker 4 (01:03:07):
Wild but no, she she says she's not like creative
and that she doesn't like things like that, but she
loves it. And I was like, mommy, you don't need
to be you know, creative. She's a business brilliant person.
But but she I gave her the colored pencils and
the coloring book and she loved it. But also picture

(01:03:28):
the character from SNL and she was coloring so hard.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
She was like, and I was like the reality, Oh yes,
would we talk about the story of that?

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
And this is why you should like you did not
text me a bunch before in the leader like this
is thank god you did, because like literally.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
We're helping, right.

Speaker 3 (01:03:46):
This happened two months before the show, before you came on.

Speaker 4 (01:03:50):
I was it was it was Labor Day weekend and
Hale and my brother in law, Hale's family was visiting,
and we had a lovely, fun game day and it
was so fun and funny and sweet. And my mom is,
by the way, the most generous, kindest, giving person in
the entire world. Yes, she is like the hostest with

(01:04:12):
the mostest you will walk in.

Speaker 5 (01:04:15):
And there are like a million fruit trays and.

Speaker 4 (01:04:18):
Vegan options for the vegan people being me and Hale only.
But even that deserves you know. She wants to take
everyone everywhere, and she's just the best. She's the kindest,
most generous person in the entire world.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
But competitive, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:04:36):
And fiercely protective of her children.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
I see.

Speaker 4 (01:04:39):
So even if we're playing you know, charades and whatever,
you don't fuck around. So this is what happened. And
I excused myself immediately to send a voice note to
Bow and I said, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
Well there is something brewing here.

Speaker 3 (01:04:56):
Something.

Speaker 4 (01:04:57):
Yes, we're playing, we're playing charades.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
And and.

Speaker 4 (01:05:01):
Hell's brother, my brother in law's brother, who they're also
sweet and amazing, was like.

Speaker 5 (01:05:06):
I was like ha ha, like we're winning vibes.

Speaker 4 (01:05:09):
Like that was the extent of it. Was like he
was like, wear heads, we're ahead, and my mom goes
tiny dick syndrome.

Speaker 5 (01:05:16):
Huh And I.

Speaker 4 (01:05:17):
Was like this.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
Tiny dick syndrome.

Speaker 4 (01:05:23):
Mommy, wait, like that's not funny. I was like, mom,
that's intense and harmful. That's like in so intense, and
we all were laughing, and of course, like he laughed
and everyone was laughing, but she was like, well that's
a sign of what that is. And I was like, Mommy,
this is insane. And then I started doing it as
a bit for Jesse Hill's other brother, and he was

(01:05:46):
like crying tears tears, and like it lasted the whole day.
So I was like, well, when we have to do
something with this, please, it's just so silly and jaw dropped.

Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
I was like yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:05:58):
And also we have like a very aggressive game playing
family too. I'm like the opposite so where my mom
and Frankie and Hale sit on the spectrum of I'm
an alien in my family a little bit because I'm
like I don't care. I just want to have fun
and I want to be there and I'm here for
a good time.

Speaker 5 (01:06:13):
You know, I'm okay.

Speaker 4 (01:06:14):
I just want to play the game. I'm happy to
be there. I don't even know half.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
The rules of just winning be here.

Speaker 5 (01:06:19):
Being here is a great.

Speaker 4 (01:06:20):
Time and I and I miss everyone when I'm not home.
And you know, this is a great time, not for
Hale or my mom. It is real. It's real deal.
Hale's a real gamer though. He knows games that no
one's ever heard of in the world. He's like a
genius nerd person who loves games. And Frankie can't can't

(01:06:42):
lose a game, Mommy can't lose.

Speaker 3 (01:06:44):
A game because you know what, First of all, they
can't lose a game on jock Box.

Speaker 4 (01:06:49):
I don't like it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
A plus plus, I love jock Box. We need to
do please, that's what we need to do. We need
to do that.

Speaker 4 (01:06:56):
We need to do jack Box.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
We need to get Jay and a.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
Josh and Air to be this. I see it in
my mind.

Speaker 4 (01:07:05):
I love them.

Speaker 5 (01:07:05):
I love your whole.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
They're the best. They're the best. They really truly are
the funniest. Have you seen identical twins? I watched it,
watched sticks together.

Speaker 5 (01:07:17):
I mean, I'm obsessed with them. There are Angels from Heaven.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
Yeah, that's like a truly fun game too, because really,
who cares if you win? Like, it's fun if you win,
but it's really more just about making each other.

Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
Frankie was about the points that it's always about the
points too.

Speaker 5 (01:07:32):
It was so funny.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
I know what that might be though, because I also
am like I'm the oldest and I'm a gay son,
So there's that little bit thing of like best little
boy in the world. I'm gonna win the game because like,
you know, what I'm saying is that might be a thing.
You're not really competitive, need to win? No, never, You're
really not.

Speaker 4 (01:07:48):
Can we wait? Sorry, I'm sorry, but speaking of Frankie,
can we can we go see Rocky Horror?

Speaker 5 (01:07:52):
It's still happening?

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
Please? How longer is it happening? Happening?

Speaker 4 (01:07:57):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
To night, I'm gonna nice Cabaret. Oh my god, I'm
seeing Marty and Cabaret. Jealous. I know. I saw it
in the West End with Jake Shears. Oh great, and
it was great, and I'm seeing it again. I haven't
seen it yet a new I love Cabaret.

Speaker 4 (01:08:13):
It's one of my good wish Are you coming to
the screening tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
I wasn't told the details and so I wasn't playing.
I would love to.

Speaker 4 (01:08:20):
I'll tell you the details.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
Yeah, that's actually going to be really fun because it's
going to be all the Broadway people. But I was
seeing it be.

Speaker 4 (01:08:25):
Coming with you. We wish we could have boot both
at the time. Marty and Cabaret, they're my favorite.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
MC really love that. I cannot wait. What a beautiful
person inside and oil absolutely absolute a great when like
because you're like a drag Race fan. Yes, you watch
every season?

Speaker 4 (01:08:41):
I watch almost every I mean I try to. Yeah,
I'm a big drag Race fan.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
Have you been judged twice for once twice? Season seventees?
I remember season seven iconically. That was a really amazing
episode the first time you were there, and they did
break free at the end.

Speaker 4 (01:08:55):
I wish I remembered more of that experience.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
Okay, it were great and they did break free and
it was Candy Hoe versus who won. I'm not who
won the show, but won the lip saying I'm forgetting
her name Jars Yes, Jane Door Fears.

Speaker 4 (01:09:10):
Yeah, that was crazily The morning after we shot the
Bang Bang video and I had no sleep and I
came straight there and it was like a full twelve hours.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
It's just surreal thing to me. When we were there.
We also had a really good episode, great episode, but
it was those were those were long days?

Speaker 4 (01:09:26):
Your episode?

Speaker 5 (01:09:26):
Oh my god?

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
Yeah, no, it was beautiful and we got hallucinated by
DUA was the and we are screaming the whole time
we were. They cut to us and we are living
the fantasy because it was Jasmine Kennedy of course, really
ripping it up.

Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
It was that was a great, great, great episode.

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
Well we'll figure it out, we'll go see it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:48):
Okay, so Marty, but hold on, we need to talk
about something before we move on. I don't think so, honey.
And then I can't even.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
Believe we're gonna move on. Why is it? Why could this.

Speaker 4 (01:09:57):
Give me a little more?

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
Of course, hold on, No one has to be.

Speaker 5 (01:10:01):
Your twenty No one has to be anywhere you.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
Sure are, because this isn't like a press day for you,
or is it?

Speaker 5 (01:10:07):
This is a press day for me? But this is
the most important part.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
What else are you doing?

Speaker 4 (01:10:10):
I do have to leave at three, that's perkay problem.
No I hear that it's two twenty. If I can
leave my three. We're good.

Speaker 5 (01:10:17):
I'll be completely early and on time.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
You know what else you need to go see? And
you need to go see?

Speaker 4 (01:10:23):
I know, I know. I mean, that's that's everything I
could want for a person. I love this moment for
her so much. She is so in her element, so
dropped in, so beautiful, so talented. Yes, and I love
that the pictures of her and blood at the stage door,
It's like, that's me.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
That's a mood.

Speaker 5 (01:10:41):
That's a mood.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
But I love watching someone you in the Wicked movie.
It's like when you watch.

Speaker 5 (01:10:49):
Someone and you that's where they're supposed to be. How
beautiful that is happening.

Speaker 2 (01:10:54):
And I'm telling you right now night of sunset of Art,
I sat next to Candy Bursts. Oh my god, the
legend like literally star studied. So many people there like
sitting there watching her, and I thought, Wow, she is
stepping into destiny right now. She's giving one of those
performances everyone will always talk about, and it is. It

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is amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:11:18):
Yeah, it's beautiful to see, even like from Afar as
a person who hasn't even seen it yet, I'm like, oh,
I know exactly what's coming.

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
Yeah, we need to talk about figment.

Speaker 4 (01:11:26):
Oh, we do need to talk about figment.

Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
So this this is also another moment where I was like.

Speaker 5 (01:11:33):
Oh, we're supposed to be in each other's We're supposed.

Speaker 3 (01:11:35):
To be in each other's lives. And then I also thought,
and I did not tell you, I was like, you
need to meet my friend Matt Roger.

Speaker 4 (01:11:40):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was actually the moment that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
We need to go to Disney together.

Speaker 4 (01:11:43):
Absolutely, Actually which one? Which one? Okay, I mean, I'm connected,
me too, me too? We share that, Yes, we share that,
I mean. And also it's where the Tower of Terror?

Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
And can you speak on this because this is really
important because you know this came up with Mariah. We
mentioned episode and speak on Tower of Terror speak on Disney.

Speaker 5 (01:12:07):
WHOA, Okay, I want to speak on the Tower of Terror.

Speaker 4 (01:12:11):
Yes, start there, because I love, I love and I
respect the Guardians of the Galaxy.

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
Yeah, of course I do.

Speaker 4 (01:12:20):
I think it's a beautiful experience, a beautiful thing, Raccoon.
It's impressive, it's amazing. I'm like a big baby group person. Yeah,
really cool. I don't remember you know much about her,
but I love her.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
Yes, And.

Speaker 5 (01:12:36):
I just think that it is that that was a zipper.

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
That was not a far I'm sorry. There was a
noise over there was a noise down there, which could
have gone either way now, but it had to be called. No. No, no,
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. No.

Speaker 5 (01:12:48):
Please, this is yours. I'm in your home.

Speaker 3 (01:12:51):
No, and you're literally about to meditate on terror.

Speaker 4 (01:12:55):
Honestly, I'm glad that happened because something needed to break
the tension of what I was feeling inside the tower.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
You're angsty about this because it's an endangered species.

Speaker 4 (01:13:04):
It's not angst, it's it's dire, desperate, real dexy central
to protect and preserve what is the Tower of.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
Tir Yeah, it should be a historical landmark.

Speaker 4 (01:13:15):
Absolutely, And I think it's really important and great that
there is the Guardian's Galaxy ride in California. I think
that's perfect. And you know Aurora's Castle, keep it all.
That's great and I love that that's the first and
it's there. Ye when it comes to Florida. When it
comes to the Disney in Florida, first of all, we
get Cinderella's Castle, which you know, also a landmark.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
She's large and in charge.

Speaker 4 (01:13:39):
Yes, she is my mom tells us too often that
she wants her ashes sprinkled over it, and I'm like, Mom,
it's Christmas. Do we have to talk about this right now?
It's just like, yeah, you have to make sure that
that happens, And I'm like, Mom, I don't want to
make sure that that happens. Also, like, I think that's
like I think there's like actors back there working and

(01:13:59):
so have you gonna sprinkled on people's heads who are
like dressed a stinker bell waiting for their cue.

Speaker 3 (01:14:02):
Totally, there's like there's like a hotel room in there.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:14:04):
Absolutely, there's lots happening back there.

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
I don't think it's kind of small, right, I've heard
the like, like what you think the experience of saying
in that.

Speaker 4 (01:14:12):
I've been in there?

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
Have you?

Speaker 4 (01:14:14):
I've been in there because I performed at the Castle
one time and I got to change in there, which
was really cool, and it's really beautiful and it's really
it feels very real.

Speaker 2 (01:14:21):
Do you have a Club thirty three membership? I don't,
but you've been in.

Speaker 4 (01:14:25):
I've been there.

Speaker 5 (01:14:26):
Yeah, I've been through.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
I've been through.

Speaker 4 (01:14:28):
I've been through.

Speaker 5 (01:14:30):
But yeah, it feels a little extreme to me.

Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
Yeah, sure you do, you do, you have somehow gotten in.

Speaker 4 (01:14:38):
But do you have a thing.

Speaker 2 (01:14:40):
I am like the kind of mental illness where it's
like I will one day sure, like I have a
stick disease that no one can figure out what it is,
where like I will go there, something happens to what
do you do it?

Speaker 5 (01:14:50):
I'll do it.

Speaker 4 (01:14:52):
I'm in.

Speaker 2 (01:14:53):
Put us on the list whoever the powers that.

Speaker 5 (01:14:57):
We have to make that happen.

Speaker 4 (01:15:01):
Keep talking, No, I just I think it's actually one
of the most important things. It's art that it's day.

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
Yeah. Absolutely. Did you ever tell ari about when we
had to be evacuated It broke on us the tower
literally a metric ton of edible. What did we do?

Speaker 4 (01:15:21):
My goodness?

Speaker 3 (01:15:21):
And it broke down, and it broke down, not like
as you're about.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
To go in when she goes forward, she goes forward.
It broke down.

Speaker 3 (01:15:32):
That's so scary, and we were stoned out of our gorge,
being like, yo, is this happening.

Speaker 4 (01:15:39):
It's not fair, that's not good.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
We were between worlds, were like between the world, and
so what they ended up doing was someone kind of
comes in out.

Speaker 3 (01:15:50):
Of the shadows, out of the proscenium to get hot.

Speaker 5 (01:15:54):
Wait, how did they get in there?

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
So I hate an illusion being shattered, I know, but
it was kind of fascinating because they go, you guys
need to get up, walk into the twilight zone and
step out through the exit door.

Speaker 3 (01:16:08):
Take a real elevator down.

Speaker 5 (01:16:12):
I don't want to know.

Speaker 4 (01:16:13):
Where the exit door is.

Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
We're not going to tell you. Isn't that crazy?

Speaker 4 (01:16:16):
Really crazy? I'm so glad that you're safe and that
it was fine.

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
I hope one day you experienced this.

Speaker 5 (01:16:21):
I don't want to know where the exit is.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
I don't like when I like breaking news. Have you
been down there to do the Guardians roller coaster in Epcot?

Speaker 4 (01:16:30):
Amazing another that's what it should be. Yeah, close, that's
what it should be. That's incredible. And the music is
different every time.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
Yes, and it's just fabulous when Conga plays crazy, crazy crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:16:45):
Absolutely So glad you brought that up because I was
going to.

Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
Bring it up so you this was funny. So we go.
We ended up going a bunch of times and I
was like, God, I wish it was Conga And they go,
they say that it's going to happen in two things,
and they can put you on the train for conga
and we did it and it was the best. And
then what was it that you want?

Speaker 3 (01:17:04):
I really wanted tears for fears. Everybody wants to rule, right,
and we never got it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
They couldn't figure it out.

Speaker 5 (01:17:10):
No problem, and well we'll have to go again.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
We'll have to go again.

Speaker 3 (01:17:14):
On set on Wicked, there's a sculpted sort of thing,
a gigantic sculpted Jeff, a thing of Jeff Goldlands the Wizard.

Speaker 2 (01:17:24):
Wait, do you.

Speaker 4 (01:17:25):
Remember when we discovered his head and we didn't know
about it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:28):
I didn't know, And then I remember, I remember, I
have pictures of it.

Speaker 4 (01:17:31):
Yeah, because we were going for a walk. We were
going for a walk talking about life.

Speaker 3 (01:17:35):
And then we must we happen upon this gigantic face
of Jeff jo face.

Speaker 5 (01:17:41):
And we were like, dear god, Jeff.

Speaker 3 (01:17:45):
Basically a two story tall sculpted face mask of Jeff
gold Bloom, and we're like, wow, this is crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
And then it's in the mood. It serves a.

Speaker 4 (01:17:52):
Purpose, Yes, it serves a beautiful purpose, but we just
had no idea. We were so disarmed by it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
Yes, this figment, no figment.

Speaker 5 (01:18:00):
But in a way.

Speaker 4 (01:18:00):
One day we were on set, we were ont and
and we were just like.

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
Talking about our favorite.

Speaker 4 (01:18:09):
Said you undertourney into the imagination. Yes, because we were like,
oh my gosh, like, oh my gosh, oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
We had said, oh my gosh, you know who I
love that figment that my guy. No, get up, girl down.
Wait no, here, here's here's the actual question I need
answered absolutely right now. If they were to add one
of your songs to Guardians of the Galaxy.

Speaker 5 (01:18:34):
You don't want They don't have to do that because.

Speaker 2 (01:18:36):
I want it. Why is it into you? Why is
it into you? Can you imagine? So it would be gagging.

Speaker 4 (01:18:45):
You're like, I would love to ride the ghost in
Guardians or the Galaxy ghost in.

Speaker 2 (01:18:51):
No. I was watching for some reason. Sometimes as I
want to do I'll watch like old clips of the voice. Yeah,
would you ever go back and do that again? And
do you think you mostly did it because the chair spun.

Speaker 4 (01:19:04):
So No, but it was a perk.

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
It was a good perk.

Speaker 4 (01:19:10):
Yes, it's so crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:19:12):
It is really fun. You have to get you have
to go do it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:17):
At some point, I have to hit the button.

Speaker 4 (01:19:19):
It's really fun. It's really fun. I got so emotionally
attached to everyone. That's my problem. I can't really do
that because I really get in I really get in
there with everyone, and I love everyone so much. I
love meeting people, and I felt so invested and I
still do. Like I see them all on Instagram, and

(01:19:39):
I yes, I mean not, I've been busy. I haven't
really been in touch with anyone, but I love them
and I'm in touch with them on Instagram. Like I
like their posts, I see their things, I see what
they're up to. Bell ahead of Baby, Sasha's putting out
solo music, Sasha of Jim and Sasha and you know,
I mean like he sent me his project last year

(01:20:01):
and he's so talented, and so I'm still in touch
with some of them, but I it's just like I
get very involved.

Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
Yeah. And also like for a non competitive person, like
the rest of those judges were really competitive, Like Kelly
is really competitive.

Speaker 4 (01:20:15):
I love her.

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
I love it.

Speaker 5 (01:20:17):
Number one, that is she's the best in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
Is she the best singer in the world. I think
it could be key, it could be a thing. She's unbelievable,
just wild.

Speaker 4 (01:20:30):
She really is one of the greatest vocalists that there
ever husband ever.

Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
So you being like, you know, like young when she
was on American Idol. Was that like a trip for you? Like,
I wonder, like when you meet these people that are like,
you know now your peers, well, it feels probably odd
to say you as someone who's like a really reverent
like respector of these vocal legends like now to hear them,

(01:20:56):
just to be able to engage with them, Like right,
where how do you approach to that?

Speaker 4 (01:21:01):
I mean, so many things that have come to be
in my life feel like such a dream, Like I
can't really fathom a lot of things, you know, even
getting to know Image and Heap just kind of meeting
her was one of the best things that has ever

(01:21:23):
happened ever. You know. I was so in shock and
all the first time I went to go meet her,
I thought it was being catfished.

Speaker 5 (01:21:29):
Wow, I didn't really think it was going to be her.
I was really scared.

Speaker 4 (01:21:32):
And then I got kind of like lost in the
woods and I was like, this is it. I'm done,
well the journey there. I'm not gonna like, I'm not
gonna like drop I'm not going to drop the location
Emmy's house.

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
In the Polkon.

Speaker 4 (01:21:48):
But it really is a trip. I just feel so
deeply grateful because so much of the art that I
have loved, I've developed an interesting relationship with or artists
that I've loved, and you know when they say don't
meet your idols, I've had so many positive experiences of
that and I'm so grateful for that. You know.

Speaker 3 (01:22:07):
Can I share what the moment was that I got
to win us a view meeting Stevie next. Yeah, it
was for promo on Thursday, and she.

Speaker 4 (01:22:18):
Had written me a letter a few years ago, so
we had spoken in contact.

Speaker 5 (01:22:22):
We had spoken once before, but we had never met.

Speaker 3 (01:22:24):
But no, no, no, and ari and I were already
on the floor just like giggling, being stupid, and then
they bring Stevie on and I just kind of immediately
need to back away. And she took Arii's hands and
was like, I have to tell you that I loved
your video.

Speaker 2 (01:22:42):
For a week. Can't be friends.

Speaker 3 (01:22:43):
It reminded me of so many people that I have
come across.

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
In my life, probably Lindsay Buckingham.

Speaker 3 (01:22:51):
Sure, totally and like for whatever the song means, like
for her.

Speaker 4 (01:22:55):
To oh it's not just a real moment. I couldn't
I couldn't believe anything. She's so kind and so cool
and so beautiful. I can't I can't really get over
what that was like, spending those few days together and
sharing a space with her. Just such a warm, beautiful,
good witch in every sense, you know, you know, just

(01:23:18):
overly generous, like overly friendly, overly kind. And I don't know,
I feel like I love meeting people and talking, but
sometimes I can go and stay overstay my welcome.

Speaker 5 (01:23:31):
I feel it.

Speaker 4 (01:23:32):
And I felt like I like I wasn't doing that.
She's wanted to keep going with me, and I was like,
oh my goodness, we're both going and going and going,
and she's such a just a sweet, kind, kind energy,
and I just I couldn't wrap my head around it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:45):
What she's offering right now too with this new song.
Like I was watching an interview with her a couple
of days ago, and you know, the song is about
like women like acting right now and like you know,
voting and fighting the fight, like and really making sure
that we don't lose rights. And but she was really
talking about it in a way of like service and
she's like she said this line in this interview where

(01:24:07):
she was like I was given this gift and I'm
doing my job she's like, I'm out here, and you
get the sense that it's just like, you know, she
didn't have to do Saturday Night Live. No, you know
what I mean. I would imagine that's a pretty daunting
thing to be asked. And she spoke on how nervous
she was, but you get the sense that she's like, no,
hear this song. I'm being given this opportunity. I have

(01:24:27):
this to offer. And she kept saying like, you know,
I tell a good story, so I'm gonna go out
there and tell the story. And it was just like
there was like a selfless like artists mentality that she
so clearly had and has had.

Speaker 4 (01:24:39):
There's work to be done and I'm gonna do it. Yeah,
she's unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (01:24:42):
Yeah, there's a serviceability and what she does that she
knows about.

Speaker 2 (01:24:46):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:24:46):
She's like, I'm gonna like be the vehicle for this message.
That's God. I just love her. I loved seeing you
guys together.

Speaker 4 (01:24:54):
It felt really special.

Speaker 2 (01:24:56):
Yeah the BT, yes, I love because I remember we
got to be on the floor for at just seventeen
and so there was a moment where for some reason
they had to hold it back for a second, like
I guess maybe some commercial was going too long or whatever,
and there was a moment, but I was watching you
guys interact with each other and like have a moment
of play in that oh yeah, And I was like,

(01:25:16):
this is very It's like obviously a cool live TV
moment like where they get to count down a few
different times, but just watching you guys together was really fun.

Speaker 4 (01:25:25):
It was really people kind of looked at each other
and we were like yeah, and it was very sweet.
And you know when when live things like that are happening,
it's everyone gets a little like nervous, and we felt
like the audience get a little tense too, so we
started doing like a bit with them too.

Speaker 2 (01:25:40):
It was really fun to play her in a biopic.

Speaker 4 (01:25:42):
Oh why.

Speaker 2 (01:25:45):
If that not not to be like that should happen
in the way that you can cut it if you.

Speaker 4 (01:25:51):
Want, but you could, Oh my goodness, there are so
many girlies that would be perfect for that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:57):
Well I'm just saying you remember one of the girlies.

Speaker 4 (01:26:00):
Should play Stevie. Oh you go, No one can do
Stevie minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:26:03):
It's like when Fantasia played herself. Absolutely remember that. It
was years ago. Fantasia played herself and her own biopic
for lifetime. Yes, yes, genius, Yeah, it could happen more.

Speaker 4 (01:26:14):
Do you remember when Share played everyone in west Side
Story Side Story?

Speaker 2 (01:26:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:26:17):
Iconic fabulous.

Speaker 2 (01:26:18):
You could pull that off.

Speaker 4 (01:26:19):
That's really that's really fun.

Speaker 2 (01:26:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:26:22):
I want to know what that meeting was.

Speaker 2 (01:26:25):
You think it was just one meeting? Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:26:28):
Yeah, I do.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
With our final twenty minutes, let's cross into I don't
think so honey, because I don't think. Money always pvokes conversation,
and I want to leave room for it. So I
don't think so honey. Is our sixty second segment where
we all rant, rail and rave against something in culture
that just bothers us and we It's a cathartic moment
and we're all going to be made better for it.
I have something that I'd like to do. I don't

(01:26:59):
really have, like, I haven't planned anything out of just
have my emotions on this thing.

Speaker 3 (01:27:03):
Okay, that's good, This is Matt Rogers. I don't think
so honey. As time starts, I.

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
Don't think so honey, Klamari? Can I ask you a
genuine question? Who actually cares? I? Do you actually care
about Kalamara? You think that you I don't think so, honey,
that it's ever different one place to the other. Don't
get me wrong, it's a really good appetizer. There's no versatility.
And if you get into being versatile with your calamari,
what's gonna happen is it's not fried. Then it's just

(01:27:27):
like what boiled calamari? Sure, I'm sorry, but it's boring.
It's boring the things we can do with other appetizers.
Look at my girl wings. You can have a lemon pepper,
you can have a buffalo, you can have a barbecue.
And I've only listed three. I don't have time to
list the rest. But what I'm saying is the versatility.

(01:27:47):
Now I hear you at home, Matt, what about buffalo klamari?
You have a point fifteen seconds but you don't see it.
You don't hear about it. Calamari physics something that's on
the table constantly. And I'm like, that's great, but are
we just not using our imaginations By Brussels sprouts on
the table as an appetizer, I'm saying it, but heat
is nodding, And I want to say, let's get more

(01:28:08):
creative with appetizers. Seafood restaurants I'm looking at you, like,
come on, let's get the raw bar together.

Speaker 3 (01:28:14):
That's quite enough. That's one minute.

Speaker 2 (01:28:15):
Well, I just feel I don't think anyone agrees with me.

Speaker 4 (01:28:19):
See I agree, I don't think. I mean, but I
also never had it. I don't want to eat them.

Speaker 2 (01:28:23):
You don't want to eat them.

Speaker 4 (01:28:24):
I don't want to eat them.

Speaker 5 (01:28:25):
I think it's better for the world.

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
Yeah, I hear that deeply.

Speaker 5 (01:28:28):
But to each their own, to each their own.

Speaker 2 (01:28:31):
Because you're right, it is better for the world. I mean,
when Natalie Portman came out with that documentary that was
did you ever watch her doc No Eating Animals? That
was what it was called, And it was so crazy
to watch her due press for it because she was like, listen,
my documentary does talk about how it's much much better
for the world for us to not do it. But
I'm not telling you not to. I'm just here with
my documentary. Yeah, and like, watch it or don't. This

(01:28:52):
is the choice I made for myself. But I don't
that you're wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:28:55):
I'm just right.

Speaker 2 (01:28:56):
Yeah, I'm just right.

Speaker 3 (01:28:59):
Which is a vibews can be true, Yeah, two things
can be true.

Speaker 2 (01:29:04):
It's not that you're wrong. I'm just right. Right.

Speaker 3 (01:29:07):
Absolutely, I'm right and you might be wrong. I'm big
and you're small. What's that round trunch bull? The legend's
name trunch crunch bowl.

Speaker 4 (01:29:19):
I have a question. Yeah, should my thing be about
my the Tower of Terror?

Speaker 2 (01:29:23):
Absolutely? Yes, yes, hold on, when I get it, do
you want to go in that pull it up?

Speaker 3 (01:29:30):
I just I do want to say. I want to
push back and say that you cannot say that anyone
who likes Klamari is not is unimaginative when it comes
to appetizers.

Speaker 2 (01:29:38):
I just think that you're there.

Speaker 3 (01:29:41):
All the sauces you named for wings can easily be
slathered onto, but you don't want to talk about it
like that. I'm just offering up my my rebuttal. That's
all you are, Queen. I love Calamary.

Speaker 5 (01:29:55):
Have you ever watched the like my best friend.

Speaker 4 (01:29:57):
The Octopus Octimus Teacher Teacher, that's what it's called for
dads for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:30:03):
My dad loves that.

Speaker 4 (01:30:04):
For dads and me.

Speaker 2 (01:30:05):
Dad, you know what I've said, like four times Blackfish. Yeah,
that watch doesn't stay with you after mental illness that
no one can tell me what it is. The things
I do Twitter will tell you come on one day.
They all came from me. They were like Matt has

(01:30:26):
adhd and I was like stop and then I was now,
I'm like, I do.

Speaker 4 (01:30:31):
They tell me?

Speaker 5 (01:30:32):
I have a lot of things God, And you know
I'm kidding.

Speaker 4 (01:30:38):
I'm joking. You're actually invasive and scary.

Speaker 2 (01:30:40):
I look at them like, what do I say? I
write that down? That down?

Speaker 5 (01:30:45):
Know, just wrong and loud and.

Speaker 2 (01:30:48):
Wrong and loud.

Speaker 5 (01:30:49):
Yeah, that's toxic.

Speaker 2 (01:30:51):
Ready to be right in loud? Yeah yeah, So here
comes Bowen Yang. By the way, I was showing Ari
the intermediate playlist, this is.

Speaker 1 (01:31:02):
One.

Speaker 2 (01:31:02):
Okay, so bow and Yang locked loaded, ready to rip,
roar and ride. I don't think so, honey. Time starts now.

Speaker 3 (01:31:10):
I don't think so honey, Ginger. I don't like the
way you're shaped. I go to the grocery store. You're
you're shaped like branched dicks. And I don't like how
you slice into it and you leave it on the
counter and it becomes stringy. And then Nigella loss And
describes ginger as having a spicy warmth. I go, shut up,

(01:31:32):
it is it doesn't do anything. When was the last
time a ginger shot kept you from having a cold?

Speaker 2 (01:31:38):
Me? Yeah, damn it. It is it is. It is
not pulling its weight anymore. Ginger. You think it's the placebo, y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:31:48):
I'm telling you for a fact, it is not actually
doing anything. You're you're eating something spicy and gross and
it's not actually good anymore. And Ginger has making all
these can is now that make make you feel like
you're supposed to be healthy. No, I don't think somebody ginger,
you're shaped weird. I don't think we're ever supposed to
have eaten you. We're supposed to letting you grow in

(01:32:09):
the ground and take roots. That's one meant to be buried.
Look at the faces of your friends.

Speaker 2 (01:32:14):
They're laughing. They're laughing.

Speaker 4 (01:32:16):
I couldn't have been a us.

Speaker 2 (01:32:18):
I think they're laughing at us. If you're laughing at us,
say whoa, oh no, no, thank.

Speaker 4 (01:32:28):
You, thank you God, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:32:31):
Well.

Speaker 3 (01:32:31):
I think, well now we're both embarrassed. You stand by
your calamari. I don't think soonny, this is a disaster.

Speaker 2 (01:32:35):
Ginger.

Speaker 4 (01:32:36):
Ginger is fabulous.

Speaker 3 (01:32:37):
Yeah, I've always thought so until I used it for
a dish yesterday and I went, what was the dish?

Speaker 2 (01:32:45):
A curry?

Speaker 4 (01:32:46):
It belongs it has to be in curry doesn't.

Speaker 3 (01:32:49):
It You would think too much, well much too much?

Speaker 2 (01:32:54):
Did you just put too much in?

Speaker 3 (01:32:57):
That's on Ginger, that can happen, that's Inger, much.

Speaker 4 (01:33:01):
Like Starnice has a big presence, sucks up all the
space in the room. Certain flavors really can't be You
can't share a dish with them.

Speaker 5 (01:33:10):
I think they're very self conscious about it.

Speaker 4 (01:33:12):
I think Starnesse comes into the room and is like, Hi, hey,
I'm sorry, it's.

Speaker 5 (01:33:17):
Going to see and claries like fuck.

Speaker 2 (01:33:22):
I don't think people know you as a culinary icon.
You are has it been something you're holding back from
the world?

Speaker 5 (01:33:27):
Well, I mean, I don't think I'm a culinary icon.

Speaker 4 (01:33:30):
I'll say Jada is shook.

Speaker 2 (01:33:33):
Jada is shaking. I do like to don't you feel
Jada shaking? I think Jadas is shaking. What does Jonda
delient just have anything to do with? I think Joda
Delarentis is watching this right now being like, fuck, Marianna
is good as she's coming from me cooking. She's cooking now.

Speaker 4 (01:33:49):
I am cooking. I am cooking. I like to cook.

Speaker 5 (01:33:53):
I do you think that's enough of that?

Speaker 4 (01:33:56):
I don't think there's life there. I don't think that's
interesting or adds value to this podcast, asked a ship,
Am I going to sit here and talk about like
roasting mushrooms for the next ten minutes?

Speaker 2 (01:34:07):
WHOA, that's amazing. Tell more about that, honestly, anyone like King.

Speaker 5 (01:34:16):
Oyster trumpet, like the trumpet ones, the.

Speaker 2 (01:34:18):
Trumpet mushrooms, the trumpet ones, I do like those.

Speaker 5 (01:34:20):
There's so many different ways you can work those, guys.

Speaker 2 (01:34:23):
You know, so many differents you can work.

Speaker 4 (01:34:27):
Crazy, especially something that looks as falic as it does
so many but you can make them into little like
you can make them into scallops if you just all
tell them like that, or you can chop themisast like
make them in their little chips.

Speaker 2 (01:34:46):
Yeah, I want to take her to Brooklyn Crab. Yeah,
the restaurant in Red Hook. You can't take me, you.

Speaker 5 (01:34:54):
Drink, I can have the sides.

Speaker 4 (01:34:57):
That's the one thing you really get to know, this
sides queen. It's like kind of the Saudi's finish? Is
it in butter? You got to ask, don't you know?

Speaker 2 (01:35:07):
Well, speaking of I told you.

Speaker 5 (01:35:08):
That wasn't going to go anywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:35:10):
Serving up a dish here it is? So are you ready?
Because oh yes, so this is the moment, and it
feels like you've now thought.

Speaker 4 (01:35:18):
Well, I didn't know what I was going to do,
but I feel like now that we've talked about it.

Speaker 5 (01:35:22):
I should use my letter.

Speaker 2 (01:35:23):
Absolutely. Now is the time use the letter. It's time
for everyone to hear the letter. This is a gand times,
so this is gonna be a different take. And I
don't think sowney. This is an historical artifact. It's a
written document that really serves as an I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (01:35:38):
Honey, and here we go, here we go. This is
Ariana Grande's I don't think so, honey. Her time starts now.

Speaker 4 (01:35:44):
I don't think so, honey. The guardians of the Galaxy
ride in Disneyland, California, No offense said with much love
and respect, an open letter to Disney World, Orlando.

Speaker 5 (01:35:54):
Hello, I hope this finds you well. My name is
Ariana Grande.

Speaker 4 (01:35:56):
I've been a frequent visitor and a great admirer of
your park since I can remember. Some of my fond
is the Professional Memories have been collaborating on my cover
of Allan Makin and David Zipple's tremendous hit Zero to
Hero and performing in front of Cinderella's Castle along a
magnificent choir that you so graciously provided. Further, some of
my oldest and warmest personal memories include spotting hidden mickeys
across the parks, driving up from Boca on the weekends,

(01:36:16):
counting the purple signs, knowing we were nearing your parks,
and alas Dot da data Dot doa dat riding the
absolute masterpiece that is the Twilight Zone Tower of Terror
for the first time once I was finally tall enough.
Perhaps this message comes prematurely, but I would be remiss
if I did not reach out with a potential matter
of grave concern in the wake of the most recent
alterations that have befallen your historic Pulse Park in California. Yes,

(01:36:38):
I am referring to the calamitous loss slash makeover of
the Tower of Terror. Ride here, I humbly implore you
to not follow suit. Please allow the iconic and tremendous
Tower of Terror to stand tall permanently in the name
of historical preservation, spooky honor, and good old fashioned fun.
I hope that you'll consider this humble plea from a
passionate fan and my way over while asking that my

(01:36:59):
own pastn't devoted fans signed the attached change dot org
petition just in case. I never posted this, but I
really wanted to me and that's one minute best. My
best friend Aaron and I worked on this together during
the pandemic.

Speaker 2 (01:37:13):
You can tell it went through drafts.

Speaker 5 (01:37:15):
Yeah, absolutely, the votecab yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:37:19):
Yeah you and did they so you never sent it?

Speaker 4 (01:37:22):
No, I never posted it, but I was ready, but
it felt like there were more important things going on
in the world, so I didn't. I don't know, this
was really up there. I'm kidding is here's the thing,
like joking, but it's not a joke.

Speaker 2 (01:37:36):
You know. I once created a change dot org petition
for Disney World and it actually got a lot of signature.
Really was I did not want them to make Donald
Trump in the Hall of Presidents.

Speaker 1 (01:37:46):
Good.

Speaker 2 (01:37:46):
I was like, I was like, this would be ridiculous,
and they did do it. And then they did.

Speaker 4 (01:37:51):
Oh they put them there.

Speaker 2 (01:37:52):
That's so famously they what you know what I'm going
to say. So they started to make a Hillary animatronic
because everyone was so positive. So when you go down
to if you ever go to the Hall of Presidents
and you see the Donald Trump atamatronic, he kind of
has Hillary's face.

Speaker 5 (01:38:09):
No, what are you talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:38:11):
I'm talking about exactly what I said, Oriana, I'm talking
about exactly what. But literally he's got the face shape.
You can confirm this, right, So he's he's gone her face.
I can't say anymore. Well, I'll post it. But like

(01:38:31):
I did a change dot org and it did some numbers.

Speaker 3 (01:38:34):
And we will and we will post the change dot
org petition that you're referring to.

Speaker 5 (01:38:38):
You know what, I I don't want to rock the boat.

Speaker 2 (01:38:42):
That's it. This is a duty. The boat rocked as
it is.

Speaker 3 (01:38:51):
It's okay, I say goodbye.

Speaker 2 (01:38:54):
Why was this so good? I literally I had been waiting.

Speaker 5 (01:38:59):
To meet you every finally met I know.

Speaker 2 (01:39:02):
And also I felt like it was the Essenal after
party and it was so there was so much going on.
I literally like.

Speaker 4 (01:39:07):
You had a glow around you, you had a halo around
you coming towards me, and it felt like an angel
descended from the heavens. I was literally like this person, wait,
I literally because we have a messaged and I know
you and we know now. Yeah, absolutely, but I was
just I told Boone, I was like, oh my goodness,
he has such a disarmingly warm energy.

Speaker 5 (01:39:28):
I am so obsessed with him.

Speaker 2 (01:39:32):
Well, I mean I felt like I was like I
was like meeting Ari and so it was just like
I like, I give her a hug, and I'm like,
I just want to say that, you know, And I
started to like, I was like, I have this conversation
with her later about how meaningful it is to me
that you were there for him when he was going
through things, and I just like, I've like, you know

(01:39:52):
what I'm saying. Yeah, I just always felt very connected
to you because I could tell that my friend had
a friend. So anyway, that's how I feel about that.
And you just are such a sensation in this movie
and in everything you do, and we love you.

Speaker 3 (01:40:12):
We knew you used to sing for good.

Speaker 5 (01:40:16):
I'm need to hear that.

Speaker 2 (01:40:18):
Yeah, I was off of that. I'm glad that's tracks
it does. We actually had it.

Speaker 3 (01:40:24):
We had we had it together there for a while.
We had a great rendition.

Speaker 4 (01:40:27):
There was once a video of us, Like, I feel
like I have seen it, but I want I want
to see it in person.

Speaker 2 (01:40:32):
Yeah, you know, we gotta do it. We'll do it soon. Well,
there's Sunday. But it's so emotional to get through. Oh,
forget about for Good. That must have been crazy shooting that.

Speaker 4 (01:40:42):
I was hovering outside my body for two weeks. And
also we shot it on a rain cover day, so
it wasn't even supposed to be When we were shooting.
It got you, which I loved because I love not
over rehearsing or knowing fully. You know, when you know
the girls, you can just jump in and do it,
but you know it's fine, and we just were. It
was a lot we had to do. Movie two's going

(01:41:04):
to be a lot. We're not allowed to talk about
it much, but I just will say it's going to
feel different.

Speaker 2 (01:41:10):
Than every one.

Speaker 4 (01:41:11):
I haven't seen it.

Speaker 2 (01:41:12):
Everyone that was like it should be one movie, Like
you're gonna feel silly, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:41:15):
I think you understand once you see it that there's
just simply too much. There's too much to get through
that deserves and needs to be honored and explored and
fully fully represented. We got one shot to make these
movies until they remake it and you know and whatever. Yeah,
but we had to get it right. There's so much
story that deserves the time.

Speaker 2 (01:41:37):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:41:38):
You are brilliant. I love you both so much.

Speaker 2 (01:41:43):
Thank you for loving me.

Speaker 4 (01:41:44):
This was so much fun.

Speaker 2 (01:41:46):
We end every episode with this song, switching the positions
for you indroom not you not knowing it in front
of her.

Speaker 4 (01:41:57):
I know it's a strange key.

Speaker 2 (01:42:04):
We're done fine.

Speaker 3 (01:42:08):
Last Culture Racist is the production by Will Harreld's Big
Money Players and I Heard Radio.

Speaker 2 (01:42:11):
Podcasts created and hosted by Matt Rodgers and Bowen Yang.
Executive produced by Anna Hasnier and Hans Soni, produced by.

Speaker 3 (01:42:18):
Beck Ramos, edited mixed by Doug bamim Anika Bord and our.

Speaker 2 (01:42:22):
Music is by Henk. Hey everybody, it's me Matt Rogers
letting you know.

Speaker 1 (01:42:29):
Tickets are on sale now to see me on tour,
the Prince of Christmas Tour, that is, I'm doing my
whole album Have You Heard of Christmas? Plus a lot
more with the whole band all throughout December. Go to
www dot.

Speaker 2 (01:42:41):
Matt Rodgers Official dot com. See me in a city
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