“They Couldn’t Be Nicer Boys” (w/ Seth Meyers)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Look may oh, I see you. Look over there is
that culture. Yes, wow, Los.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Ding Dong Lost Culturas calling.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
I have a gift for Bowen this. I've been waiting
to hear. What sound you're gonna yes, yes, oh my god,
very Percy. Miss.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
I had no idea what this reveal was gonna be.
But you, but Dennis, I think I heard like the crinkling.
Oh fuck, this is the Emine crinkled as I came in.
Oh my god, my favorite.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Well actually so they're actually from Zane Philip's sister Emily,
who she brought two bags of Percy pigs shout out
because explain Percy Pegs. I didn't.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
I don't think so, honey, Percy Pegs. That was kind
of a fake out because I was like, I don't
think so, honey. That they are exclusively available at M
and S, which is this like food chain in the UK.
And but god, they're my favorite candy.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yeah, so good. In the addition, these are limited.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
They're all vegan person vegan candy in Europe? Is that girl?
The candy technology there is cutting edge. They pump our
ship with like chemicals. They're trying to kill us. They're
trying to kill did you hear that the government is
actually trying to kill us all?

Speaker 1 (01:17):
How do you mean? Well? I can't get into it
because they're coming. You know, our guest came in with
the Secret Service.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Those are the lovely folks at security at NBC. I
know there was Are you at the level? Are you
at the level where I don't get I don't get
a little FAILANX, but I get so.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
You're vulnerable out there.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
But I say hi to the guys on like every
day that I'm do they give this because that I
can't describe the energy more than he No, they really
they know they're talking to a foppish fellow and they hey, Bowen,
how are Yeah, they soften up a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
They're not you. You're one of the poppish girls of NBC.
So an't you guys all in a group text like
Lauren's always Laurence guys, that's what we call it.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Lornette lor Lornettes are me and the security people on eight.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Do people know about the Lornettes, like the actual Lornettes? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yeah, I think so, like they've been documented. Okay, there
needs to be a Do you think it's fine if
I talk about the Lornettes.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
I would be glancing in your description of the Lornette.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
The Lornettes are the people who make the popcorn event great.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Love that. Yeah, keep it there, Let's keep it there. Wow.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
So you have to be a little bit more specific
now that I've made it sound like no.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
No, Yeah, they're all lovely people. And actually one of
the Lornettes, Karina helped out on the Culture Awards. Yes
she did. I love that Lornette. She's well, she's more
than a lornette. She's a wonderful more than a lornette,
more than any That should be the title of all
their books.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
She's a Mornette's. So the reason why this is so
exciting is because I was in London and I want
to shout out London and a couple of things I did.
Then I saw Nicole Scherzinger and son St Boulevard. This
has to be seen. And I'm not just saying this
because I one of the gayest people in the world.
This is one of the stunning performances of our time.
You can't believe how crazy it is.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
I mean unreal. Nicole Sures and your can do sense
that Boulevard. Glenn Close could not sing buttons could not
sing buttons or react. No, And that's a rule of culture.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Cannot do button and react. Now, I think that the
fact that we're sort of like in this deep of
gay culture talking about buttons and react Sunset Boulevard, Sunset Boulevard. Like,
I'm wondering if our guest knows about buttons and react.
I think he does. I wonder if we were to say,
this is a group of words buttons, react, beep, I

(03:47):
would wonder if he could describe do you know what
those are? I am so in the weeds and you're
not introduced yet, but he's in the weeds so far.
What we're talking about a Pussycat Dolls song titles excellent.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
I mean I think I could have based I did
know that about a nicure Yeah, yeah, maybe I could.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Have got Has she been on the show? She is?
Oh boy.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
I feel like she's a fox girly with the masked singer,
and I feel like they're telling her if you go
on seth, yeah, you're done, you're done.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
You're done, Nicole, You're done, Nicole. And already it's tough. Hey, no,
I'm saying the UK embraced her in the UK Nicole
Scherzinger is Celine Dion's You come to the US. You
can't even get on the show.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
It's not She's a very successful entertainer. Nicole Scherzinger for
the pod for Ohnicle.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
We would love to have started here because I think
it's going to transfer to Broadway and every gay person
and theater lover, yes, should go see this. I mean
that then diagram is a circle. Speaking of theater, you
saw Spamalot last night.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
I saw spam a Lot last Night's so funny, uh huh,
excellent performance is all around.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Wow a person Broadway.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
I think stupid is back.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
I think stupid shit is back.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
And I just watching spam a Lot and me going,
I know it was my first time seeing the actual show,
but I was like, I know, Monty Python on the
Holy Real like the back of my damn hands.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
That would you say it's one of the cultures that
made you say culture.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
It is definitely one of the cultures that because I
actually just read in it from the library on my
own accord when I was like nine.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
You looked at the cover and said that looks like
fun comedy and something I'll enjoy.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
And just the opening title cards of like that person
has been sacked and the person who sacked that person
that's been sacked. I was like, what am I watching?
And then the end of that movie, I'm gonna spoil it.
Everyone gets there's this huge sceniariors and then and then
the cops come and arrest everybody. It's one of the
best comedy endings ever of a film. I would say, huge,
and I want to throw it over to I guess

(05:40):
because I think he is a he's an expert in comedy.
I would say that, wouldn't you say so? Not only
would I say that.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Not only would I say expert in comedy, I would
say expert in kindness and kindness, I would say expert
in professionalist family, I would say family. I would say
this man has one of the best reputations in the business. Yeah,
and guess what a lot of people talking and talking
the truth and the truth they always say about this guy. Lovely, gracious.
Everyone at the place he works late night with Seth

(06:09):
Myers says, I've been here for a long time and
I will stay here for a long time. Thank God.
He puts one of our good friend's house, Henry Melcher,
a roof over his house, Henry Melcher, Henry Melcher and
Archie and hugo oh, the babies. The baby.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
That makes it sound like I only pay enough to
put a roof on.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Well, and just for roofing. We reroofed Henry's house. That's
so nice. The plumbing there is terrible, but there's a roof.
You know him as the star of New Year's Eve
and the co host of the Strike Force five podcasts
and Stanley Trips with the Myers brother Family Trips with
the Meyers Brothers. He's also the host of Late Night
with Seth Myers. You know him from Saturday Night Live

(06:49):
many many many years doing the thing over there. And
you know something about that this is a good day,
This is a good day. Did I say, goriod? I
think so that was very Lindsay lohand of me started
to say good. So I say, great, But let's just
bring him in show. Everyone welcome, Seth.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
Be so happy to be here. So first of all,
let me just say you said a very you were
on the show second time. Yeah, fantastic, so funny, you
were great effort.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
Would you not agree?

Speaker 3 (07:17):
I think there was a level of comfort between both
of us. We know each other a little bit better.
I think the second time was a home run, and
I really was. I had left really happy about the
first time, and then the second time I was like,
see that that was how you want to do it. Yes,
it felt a little bit less hun to maybe the
pre interview, except everything was.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
A bit more. I think that was my first ever
talk show by myself. That's true. Oh so that's the
first time you want to The first time I went
on your show was the first time I was ever
like and please welcome and you come out and do
the thing where and no one ever talks about the
sort of headiness about walking out when the doors come
and then you crazy your walk out. It's sort of
like what what what's my walkout? Like? What's my thing?

Speaker 3 (07:57):
It's funny because I, well, every now and then I'll
just pop downstairs. You would think this is the easiest
possible talk show appearance. I popped downstairs to do Fallon. Yeah,
and I'm backstage, and I have such an appreciation this
is Being a guest on a talk show is so
much harder than hosting.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
And how do you describe it?

Speaker 3 (08:13):
You host it, you get to do it every day
and you just slowly over the course of time, like
waves lapping against the shore, you become comfortable with it
and the show becomes yours. But even backstage of Fallon,
which I've probably done fifteen times, Yeah, the stage might
be like and I remember, you walk out and turn right,
and I go turn right. I know, like, it's not
like I'm going to walk out and walk straight to
the roots. I will find the desk. But you're backstage

(08:35):
in the dark, and you really do start to spin
out about the idea that you are now going to perform,
the idea of being a guest.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Yes, that is a thing, because there's there's also been
at least two hellos beforehand. There's been a conversation before him,
and you have to the artifice of a greeting is tough.
Artifice of a greeting. That's a great memoir.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
That's interesting. I like to say during an interview sometime
we were talking backstage. Yes, because I don't I won't
artifice a greeting, although it's interesting, neither will David Letterman,
and he would not come and say hello before the
show and when he's the two times he's been a
guest on my show, he has asked that I don't
say hello before the show very politely, because he likes

(09:16):
the hello to be the real Hello, to be on
camera a god, and they always are.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
They always are. Hold on this is not my I
don't think so money, but Worldwide Pants took down every
single Letterman clip from YouTube.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
I thought they just launched a new YouTube channel. Yeah,
they had their own they have They have a whole
like encyclopedic cattle.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Because I'm like, how am I going to get Miami's
sadaris fixed from those episodes?

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Oh, do you have a favorite guest?

Speaker 3 (09:43):
You know it's I will say, I think we've become
a nice post Letterman home FRAMI I think I was
just gonna say, you know, they're I think they kind
of all get sort of doled out. Yeah, a draft
of sorts where each of us sort of ends up.
And I think Amy, even though Amy and and Colbert
have long history in their Dear Friends, I think she
likes who she gets to be on our show.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Colbert can't be like the There's something about her and
Letterman where it was like it's just this guy letting
her go. And then with Colbert, there's so much history
there that it's like, right, but it's just like two
friends talking, which is not why you watch Amy Sidaris
go off.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yes, it's weird.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
I had to find a way to interview friends because
I early on in the show underestimated how prep does
help with these things. And I would say, oh, Bill's
coming on, wigs coming on, how could it be bad?
And then halfway through it, I'd realize, oh, this is
a little bad. You think so I think, but we've
found I've gotten better at it. Like you can't just

(10:44):
completely rest on the idea that we will because we're
old friends, we're gonna have an interesting conversation. Because sometimes
I think about friends is you're enjoying the conversation even
when it's not interesting. And when a lot of people
that don't share that history in the audience watching, they
need a few more sort of like touch points they
can lock into the story.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Right.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
What about family though, Like let's say, like Thanksgiving, you
you bring yeah, my Josh and the parents.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
It's the most stressed out I am on. Oh, and
by the way, I think it always works out great.
My parents are wonderful on the show. My brother's wonderful
in the show. But everybody has been saying this week,
oh we forget this is the only week of the
year where Seth is on edge?

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Wow? Now is that also to do with the fact that, like,
you don't want to put anyone in your family like
in a position where they feel like fucking on edge
on it.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
I want to take care of my parents, got it.
I want to take care of my brother. I also
don't ever want us to be on TV, like aren't
we just the best?

Speaker 1 (11:36):
You know? You want to like bring it every time?

Speaker 3 (11:38):
Like I want my family is fun on Aatakshaw because
my family is funny, and so I want to put
them in a position to be funny as opposed to
just look at us grand they were this close.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
That's like on the surface, it seems and I'm not
saying this is what it is, but it just it
would read as presumptuous to be like, I'm going to
bring my my parents and my brother on my show.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Yeah yeah, and look how charming we are. I think
my mother, if she ever came on this podcast. My
mother has sort of a catchphrase that she thinks works
all the time, but only works sometimes. So I told
the story one time about how she was at the beach.
She called me because she had been at the beach.
My parents were at the beach and a seagull came
and stole her sandwich out of her hand, and she said,

(12:17):
damn bird. And so people love that she said damn
bird because she also typed it out on text like
d A M M. So now whenever anyone like is
posting or whatever I see her way in online, she'll
just say, Lol, this is so funny, damn bird, She'll
just throw it in there.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
I know how old was she when this happened? Like
what age did she add a catchphrase to it?

Speaker 1 (12:40):
Yeah? Very late breaking? Oh yeah, I know. But like
dan bird has really like been a huge thing. I said,
she should make shirts. I think more people would buy
her merch than like March that says like lost cultusta.
Certainly she's got a huge She's sitting on a gold mine.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
Dann Bird two ms is a very funny share.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
So funny and like with a little bird in the corner,
hold in a bagel, I mean, come on, we My
son and Axel, when he was three, was running down
a beach holding a bagel in his above his head
and in the best mood and a bird came down
like it was a circus act where a boy ran
across the you know, the big top, and a bird
flew down and grabbed the bagel.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
And it was other than the fact that he was crying,
It's the most everyone had jumped to my feet and applod. Yeah,
did you tell him that in years he's going to
be last?

Speaker 1 (13:27):
This is a good story, is one? That bagel? That
damn bird?

Speaker 3 (13:31):
He might actually I might offer him damn bird with
an m N so that's available and he could take
damn bird.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Axel is the coolest fucking name for a kid.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
And I wasn't bored from the beginning. Really, I love it,
and he's an axle, and I give my wife all
the credit in the world.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
But I didn't.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
It felt a little. It felt like a bigger swing
than it ended up being. Okay, can I tell you
because we then, so we have a names ash, which
is my wife's maiden names are first A s h E,
then Axel, and then our daughter is Adelaide, which is
my grandmother's name. Now, if the third had been a boy,
my wife had an a name picked out that I
was very I was going to fight hard edge. Yes,

(14:10):
give me your instant reactions.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
We will Atlas okay, okay, yeah, well we're both we're
both resident on that real good.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
What was the what's what's the sentiment of that name?

Speaker 1 (14:21):
I think uniqueness.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
I think that we live in an era where a
lot of the unique A names have now become a
very commonplace. It was hard to find, you know, it's
at some point even like Archer. I feel like my
kids had been already been in a class where there's
like Archer B and Archer J. You know, because they've
got a couple.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Right, I'm sorry, you know what I'm coming around to.
And I think it's like but I think it's a
grower now. I thought of miss Rand as soon as
I heard it.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
For sure, I think that that's going to happen. But
Atlas myers like, I'm sorry, that's a very powerful high
schooler that is not as I I hate saying, yes,
but that person crushes it. Yes.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
The risk of what you end up with like an
ironic Atlas, you know, you end up with a high
schooler who is not Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
The funny thing is I was like, well, you want
an a name, and so if it's a boy's Atlice
and if it's a girl's going to be Anne and
then you would have.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
A y N and that would tell you I would
tell you everything about her. Interesting.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
But I think that the unique anime that kicked this
all off for the culture, you know, miss Apple Martin, Oh,
Apple Martin.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
I think I've never been Apple Martin.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
She certainly has. She seems to be loving life.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
How old is Apple Martin?

Speaker 2 (15:39):
I think she's like a like as an adult.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
Yeah, I think I think she's going to become a model.
That's the rumor I heard on the street. Word on
the street was that Apple Martin was going to become
a model, which is like, yeah, sure, sure, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
Sure it would have been one of those things if
you could have bet on it early, Yeah, that would
have been terrible, like bet one hundred to in like seven.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Fifty on Vegas. Are you a gambler? I will gamble
a little. Yeah, that is a that's a hard yess.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
I mean, so when I go to Vegas, I will
get a little intimidated by craps, But that is by
far the most fun one.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
If I can go with a couple of people who
know it, that is the most fun to do blackjack,
I'd just become a little like to be good at blackjack,
you have to be patient. And when I go to
in the last thirty decade, when I'm in Vegas, it's
usually because I did a show and I don't have
a lot of time, and so if I only have
an hour, it just feels like I get a little antsy. Yeah,
I got play right into the casino's hand.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah, it really is true. I was just in Vegas,
and like I've been to Vegas where the table was hot.
You really can feel that, Like when the table's hot
and things are going good, you feel like, oh, there's
no way I could ever sit down and play this
game and not be good. Yeah, And then the last
time I was there the table was ice cold. I
was bad. Every single hand was bad, and you're like,

(16:56):
I will never do this again. But there's something addiction
about that, and there's something very real and tangible about
the feeling of I'm hot or I'm like dead.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Yes, but because you're sure that it can turn at
any given moment, and it sometimes it doesn't.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
This is what I'm saying. Though, It's like I'll sit
down and I'll play like play a bad hand. Is
that what they'd say? Yeah, and sure, and I'll be like, oh,
it's bad for the rest of the night, and then
it is, and then sometimes it's good and the steak
is on me. Actually you'll see me in Alexander McQueen.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
Now, this is the very depressing gambling summer I had
because when the strike happened, I tried to book stand
up shows. It's very hard to book maybe the ideal
places because a lot of people are on the road,
a lot of those stags. But I had a three
day stint where I did a casino in Hollywood, Florida,
then Tampa, Florida, then Bethlehem, Pennsylvania.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
And all those places.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
Even if people didn't maybe know me from my show
or out, posters are up of you at the casinos
because you're doing a show, and so you don't really
want to go gamble as someone who you know they
could recognize. Sure, So what I would I would have
to wake up so early to get to the airport
for the next one that I would sort of sometimes
go and like gamble at like four forty five in
the morning. Really because it was and that is you

(18:09):
see the way he I mean there's no one there, like, no,
there's no happy gamblers at four in Tampa, Florida.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
Not in Tampa, Florida. I know. Yeah, we say that
with all love, with all do you get people in
like Tampa Florida will come up to you and say, hey,
I see your show. You get ordinary people? I don't,
you know.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
I do think people at this point are smart enough
to self select, got it? Yeah, I do get a
little way. I mean I think weirdly, the hard rock
in Hollywood, Florida is the one that's shaped like a guitar.
It's like crazy three I literd disappointing. One thing is
you hear it shape like a guitar, and you're like,
that's so dumb. And then when you're driving in you
see it and you do have that kid moment.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Of like, oh my god, I'm gonna stay guitar. Yeah
we love that hour.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
Yeah, it's really kind of cool. The neck of the
guitar you wish was a little higher. Obviously it doesn't
make sense. You're in a hurricane state, so it it's
only maybe like five or six frets up. I think
the idea is that sort of you're supposed to think
it disappears into the class.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yeah, totally. It's an upright guitar. It's an upright guitar.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Okay, And but that I felt like that was real, Uh,
Trump country, but the kind of Trump country where they
have money and they're totally fine come to your show
and not be like, you know, like we all. I mean,
isn't he a lot like yeah, he's doing He's.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Only doing his thing. Yeah, it was funny, right, the
rest of it was funny. But then when he got
a little edgy, you.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
Know, but anyway, you know, also does good things, so
like that's yeah, yeah, well okay, here's my question.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
So you mentioned like looking at a guitar shaped hotel
and getting very excited. Are you like us where you
reap the NBC perks and by us Simon and Bowen.
Are you a theme park person but you go to
Universal Studios and sort of kill it.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
I am waiting, the kids aren't quite there, okay, And
so but I have I will say I did not
take advantage as an adult without children of the theme
park world.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
Right, we do it? You know, why would you I had?

Speaker 3 (20:00):
I've seen part of the era years where I lived
in Amsterdeare for a couple of years, I worked for
this theater in Chicago and sort of middle of Holland
there is this place called Efteling, which is, for my money,
the best theme park in the world, and it's sort
of fairy tale themes and it's built in sort of
a forest. And that was We would just go there

(20:22):
on a bus and take hard drugs. Yes, And it
was to me, I kind of I'd just be chasing
that the rest of my life.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yeah, And I think that's what happened to us because
we this was like pre anyone knowing who the fuck
we were, It's the most important. So we went. That's
really what ended up happening because we went, our friend
Dave and us we went to Universal and Disney World
and he had made these you know, when someone makes
weed food themselves, it's gonna be a gnarly ryde yes,

(20:49):
and we're really roll in the dice. So he had
made these rice crispy treats that weed butter looted, yeah,
with THHD And I'm telling you, like, we would take
mouthfuls of this and just be like unable to speak
at Universal, just exploring the world, you know what I mean,
immersing in these rides and like we were children, and

(21:10):
now I don't think we can ever do that again
because I don't think we'll ever ingest we'd like that again,
because they don't make it like that anymore, and we've
already had that experience of being children and like rechilding ourselves.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
Yes, so it's really I will say that if you
veer into a bad trip, the last thing you want
to be around is a bunch of Dutch teenage just
because all of a sudden that like it.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Really everything about it is so this hits this level
of sort of melting grotesqueness. Yes, yes, yeah, oh that's hard.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
I think we've said publicly it's a gross language. It
doesn't really so to me it doesn't hit. No, we
just performed at Broom Chicago.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
We're a little mad at them right now because they
lost the audio of ar Michelle Collins upisode and so
we're a little mad at that right now. But it
was a lovely experience performing there, and we were there
and I was like, oh wow, this was Boom Chicago. Yes,
this was I was.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
It was a different physical space when I was there.
But I've performed and that's why I went back there
for the thirtieth Aniversity this summer, which was cool. I mean,
I think we missed each other by a deck. Yeah,
I had texted you, was like when we were there, No,
when I was there, when I took a solo, little
old trip there in July.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
Or something something like that.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
The talk of the town was well seth Myers was
just here and I said, oh, like his show was
last night. Let me see if he's into And by
the way, it was just to be it was. I
was just texting me to be like, I heard your
in town. I'm just here by myself, just like wandering
the canals, like if you're up to anything.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
Let me know. And then you would obviously taken a
flight out. I was very sure of his. I would
have been lovely to walk the canals. Well, we would
just walk the canals.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
I think we would have walked it thro out.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
I think we maybe stopped for a coffee, you know,
side canal side coffee. Rich stuffful, We got rich stuff?

Speaker 1 (22:54):
You did? Did you enjoy your right stuff? I love it,
love it. I absolutely love Amsterdam in the canals in
the evening when there's no one there, it is quite peaceful.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
I realized I have a problem with Amsterdam. What is
my own personal problem with me? I find the nostalgia
for the time I had there is oppressive because it
was where things. It was that sense of beginning, which
is an impossible thing to recreate. I was there with
this exceptional group of people and we were all had

(23:25):
this adventurous spirit of let's go move overseas, let's take
this chance, and we're doing great shows. And then one
by one we all started to, you know, find success
outside of it. And that was all great, that was
the plan. But oh, it's impossible. And so sometimes I
go back there and I walk these canals where even
though you know, everything that I could have possibly hoped
would have happened for me has happened for me. Like

(23:46):
you still don't float the way you float when you're
twenty four and you just crushed as isn't that interesting?

Speaker 1 (23:53):
It's so true.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Well, but we don't really experience that, I think because
we were coming up here.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
I experienced that after I left New York, so basically
like I had this in New York City, Like it's
very hard for me sometimes still to be like around
NYU in the Lower East Side and even around like
UCB Chelsea and stuff like that. Like I had left
for five years and then came back and the pandemic
had separated me from it, and so I found like
one night when I was walking around, we just talked
about this, but I got really emotional just being like

(24:20):
back in New York, like looking at theaters that were
there and aren't there anymore, and like, you know, because
it's what you're saying. It's like I remember like crushing
a character set at you seb East and feeling like
better than I do after I like release a fucking
album or something, you know what I mean. It's just
it's funny. One of the questions they asked is what
would you tell yourself ten years ago? What would you
tell yourself fifteen years ago? Just like enjoy it because

(24:43):
those are such iconic memorable like is irrepeatable a words
like so it could be you can't repeat them. Well.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
Also, the crushing was the thing. Yeah, that's all it was. Yeah,
Like when you mentioned like putting out an album, you
put it out and then you wait, right, but that
instant reaction like the goal you went out and you
never thought tonight tonight. Someone from Amsterdam show business mister
Amsterdam is going to be in the audience, so you
never thought you were going to break yeah night, and

(25:13):
it was just this also that wonderful thing and you
guys obviously had it where succeeding is part of a collective,
which happens a little bit at SNL, but not really
because there's never a night where everybody has a great night.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
Totally, that's such an interesting thing.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
I will say a nice way looking back at my
favorite era of SML, like I think we all look
back at it like, look, we all crushed every week
even though we know we didn't, yes, but we allow
that to be the memory of it. Which was what
era my I think for me it's thirty six to
thirty seven to eleven two seven two yeah, yeah, of

(25:49):
course it's it's it was the greatest freshman class of
all time. Andy and the Lowland absolutely weeks today is bill?
I mean that that alone?

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Yeah, that was really really that was very special and
weirdly enough, so we were freshmen in two thousand and
eight and what I would do every single weekend as
I would go wait on the stand by line. I
was like a stand by girl. Like I met Bobby
moynahan on the stand by line Bill Hater came out,
I think.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
So high, and that would be weird.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
That is not my memory. He was he seemed to high,
but it was Bill Hayter, you know what I mean,
like and Bobby and they were coming out to say
hi to us, and I remember I got in. My
first show was James Franco and Kings of Leon, which
and I think I was just in shock the whole time.
And this was when Tina was coming to do Sarah
Yeah and Sarah Sarah Balin. And then my I think

(26:42):
second episode was Ann Halfaway and The Killers, and this
episode was when Kristen did Laurence Weelkshea and I was
sitting there and I just thought, this is this energy
is so insane and so wild that like it like
drove me for the rest of my life. And the
other thing I remember, and this is this is you,

(27:04):
was how fucking cool you were when you came out
for a weekend update and you gave all the interns
high fives and everyone in the theater was like, it's
seth Myers. You know what I mean. You came out
and like frush weekend updates, Weekend Update was incredible and
I just remember your energy and your vibe and then
meeting you years later, I was like, that totally tracks
just from me, like even seeing this man inhabit of space,

(27:26):
because you set the tone that was like the best vibe,
best vibe.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
I am thank you, that is I'm so happy you
mentioned that show because we just had Anne Hathaway on.
I can't even remember if I just mentioned this on camera.
It is the only time I remember. When that show
was over, the audience gave a standing ovation. It was amazing,
a standing ovation, and the Killers performed again. And The
Killers performed again. Yeah, and my parents were at that show,
and I introduced my mom to the Killers, and as

(27:54):
they walked away, she said very loud and they heard.
She goes, well, I don't know why they called themself
of the Killers. They couldn't be nicer boys.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
That it couldn't be nicer.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
They couldn't be a nicer boy, couldn't be.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
Also, though I have a weird shame thing, and this
is that not being able to let go of a choice.
I don't think this mattered. We lost the Emmy all
those years, and let me just say so fucked up
that year and that went those Sarah Palelin things. That
is the most I ever felt like we were on
a winning team. Yes, there was white hot and having

(28:33):
Tina back, and I felt like we had we understood
we have to keep out doing ourselves and it was
so thrilling and so fun and that cast was coming
into his own and people were everybody walked out. You
were excited to see. It was nuts and it was
great at the end of the year. I remember as
head writer, they you get to pick a sketch to submit.
I don't think it would have mattered, but I remember

(28:55):
I didn't pick that one because Lauren thought he picked
a different one, which was a worst show. But it
was the one Sarah Palin was actually on right yes,
which was also incredible.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
It was good.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
That moment was incredible. The rest of the show was
it was esoteric in a way, whereas the Ann Hathaway
Show was just banger after banger after Everybody's so funny
because I remember after we lost, it was like it
wouldn't matter at I'll forget about this every time it
comes up with like I wanted to pick that one.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Wow, So but no, I mean, I feel like Emmy's
NSNL were in this we I mean, it still is
in this weird existential place now where like they don't
quite know what to do with the show or like
where to place it or how to categorize it. But
it's like back then, it was like it's like, why
wouldn't you nominate Kristen and Bill every single thing and
Andy and Jason like that whole cast. Why wou't you

(29:40):
nominate all those people in the same league, is like,
you know, the sitcoms of that day.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
I just think, well, and I've said this to you,
and this is it doesn't make sense to me that
there's not a variety performance category, because I think you
would have an Emmy if there was. I'm just saying that.
I mean, like, I think it's weird to say, let's
put these variety performers in with people that are playing
characters with emotional arcs, because actors, especially like will vote

(30:07):
for that before they vote for like somebody do. I
feel as though I with Bowen's George Santos. I've seen
a journey that I actually went to his, so I'm
kind of addicted to like the fact that he still
digs in on Twitter. It's so crazy. I went with
Twitter and to see if he had comments and on it,
because I want him to say something about you so

(30:28):
bad so that I can log onto our Twitter and
be like, I just want to.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Say he's in the weeds right now. I don't think
he has on.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
I wouldn't be surprised if you has. I just don't
put anything past him to do the dumbest shit possible.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Although I mean, what gay Twitter was talking about this
past week was that like, I mean, you want to
gay representation in Congress for god, like this fucking slop
some gay guy found money and then spend it on
makeup and porn.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
Again. It's really it is always be careful. I always say,
like I just would just give us one. It's like, well,
I bet this will shock you. But my other favorite
memory about that year is when it was over yeah,
because you know the man between dress and air, Lorne said,

(31:17):
you know, he gave all his notes and then he said,
I just want you all to know I feel as though.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
This has been a championship season.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
Yes, and I think we all it like it was.
Nobody knew what to say because it was Lorne is
not someone who has moments like that.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
No I do.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
I think that was for me, and again, just everybody
was so in the pocket that year. It wasn't in
the pocket season.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
I'm telling you, And it was an energy that radiated
certainly through the city and I guess to everyone watching it,
but in the comedy community that we were in or
that we were about to be in, it was really exciting.
And you mentioned the Lonely Island. I remember they were like,
that was really the year I think too that the
digital shorts started like really popping off. And I remember

(32:02):
that was like formative, certainly for me, I'm sure for
you as well, like because there was something there was
an abandon about it that was like that felt like
queer to me, and I was hitting me in my
head and I was like, there's something about the Lonely
Island that makes me feel like I can do whatever
the fuck I want. Uh, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
I think those had that had so much to do
with the next twenty years of comedy.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
Yeah, I think they're way more influential than people realize. Yes,
and I think that even the sketch work of you
talk about that. I love that Laurence Well Kristen sketch,
but that was sort of inspired by Ride seventies SNL
like that could have also worked that anytime, And that was.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
Sort of the magic of Kristin was being this better,
more modern version of what we But those guys showed
up and it was, oh no, this is a whole
new thing.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Yeah, this is different thing. Yep.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
I mean those seasons were like a perfect little like
four dimensional tapestry of like this is like past, present,
future all in one.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Very cool. It's very weird.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
You guys mentioned Henry Milcher, who is a producer the
show and obviously went to school with you guys, And
for me, it's so crazy just realizing now there's this
whole you guys talking about being college when that season happened,
and now so many of you and your colleagues have
come through been guessed on my show. It must be
so weird to have your moment where the people you
knew in college are all sort of in culture.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
Well, I mean with Josh and Aaron for Dix, the
musical going on, that was like I stayed up for
that upside, stay up for your episode this past month.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
It is this like really it's crazy. That was when
they were on this show.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
Please I hope you don't take offense to the fact
that I will listen to my podcast at a not one.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
I will speed it upload.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Yes, And that was the first time when the four
of you were talking about something like Nope, I'm gonna
do it, slowed it down because I can't it started
in the beginning, I was like, this is like everybody.
It was like in an or if you look down
in an orchestra pit and everybody with yeah it was.
It enlightened me to know and love that. The only

(34:00):
I think that's the only podcast in the last ten
years that I've been like, I'm gonna listened to it
said one X, Seth and I are the same.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Man you were Boonen. But so now I do one
point seventy five on YouTube. But like I used to
get on Boonen because I was like, why would you
do that? Because every comedy is intentional, the speed at
which we say things as intentional. We talk all the
time about how caidence is called.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
Yes, of course, but now I understand sometimes because you
are just resetting your own internal cadence to it. So
because it's also cadence in you know, it was in
a relative sense in a relative sense to the other people.
So if you see it all, if you sped up,
one person created a comedy scene wouldn't make sense. But everybody,
I will say I in the early days of The Daily,

(34:43):
I had Michael Barbaro on the show. Yes, and I
did not realize that anyone could take offense to this,
but I said, I love The Daily because it's twenty minutes.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
I can listen to it. At one point five and
it was it was as if I slapped the man.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
But it's not because I've seen him since he's lovely
and we get I did. Was the first time I
realized I felt safe. I felt like a safe place.
And I can tell you guys, just play on it
at all. Oh yeah, major, this show you got first
of all, let me say I have this real. The
only hesitation I had about coming on this show is
that I feel like your voice is in concert with

(35:17):
one another are music, And when I listen to your podcasts,
it is like music. And I have the flattest, most
nasally voice. I'm working through a cold. I feel like
your listeners right now are like, who let this out too?
I feel like you are too, like a classically trained
musician and I'm a third grader with a recorder who
is on here like like I have a lot of

(35:38):
shame for everybody's life.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
This is just to be further from the truth.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
I listen to Family Trips and I go, wow, I
get two meyers vocal timbers.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
This is my heaven.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
I'm glad that you think they're too, because I do
think we sound You sound so similar in a way
that is only delightful for me. I go, these are
two good guys talking in my ear.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
I'm all for it. You're so off base for the okay,
thank you. We are so we were described by Betty
gilp and us piccolo and bassoon, and I feel like.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
You've arrived her as a clarinet. Welcome to the orchestra,
baby or the Betty.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
I mean she's is that your pinnacle guest? She's one
of them? She was. I haven't I listened when she
was a guest. You haven't listened to the live one? Was?
The live one was fun? But like her first episode
Maggots and Magic, that was like a moment in the
podcast because we genuinely believe you've had her on your show, right.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
I never have, Oh, you have I know, I'm it
breaks my heart that I haven't.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
She's just so smart and so great. You should also
check out her book.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
I think it's time to ask Seth the ones. It's
literally time, Seth Myers, what is the culture that made
you say?

Speaker 1 (36:36):
Culture is so?

Speaker 3 (36:37):
I talked to Henry about this beforehand, and this is
the heartbreaking. I can't believe you literally talked about the
movie which I should have known, the movie Money Python.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
You know what culture? That was your culture? But in
and that's fair.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
So my here's my moment because I remember it so clearly.
I was homesick from school and usually my mom was
a school teacher. Usually she would take the day off
and I, for some reason, my dad did not go
to work one day, you know, when he was a
businessmanic commuted to Boston. He's like, I'll stay home with you,
and he went to the Video Story and he rented it.
He brought it home and obviously it was a movie

(37:11):
he'd seen, and that the opening credit that was the
thing mine was there was all of a sudden, they
just slowly started mentioning a moose in the credits, like
moose handler. And I remember there was one that was
Moose's nose wiped by, And for whatever reason, I think
that's the moment where you go, I don't think I

(37:33):
ever will, but it would be nice to be in
a world where I would try to write something back Wow,
because it's also writing as a kid, when you realize
writing because that thing of and again that's Python. But
I loved SNL as a kid, but my parents also
had watched Python, and it showed on public televisions. We'd

(37:54):
watch that, and so I kind of liked being the
kid who we could all talk about SNL sketches. Certainly
was never looked down my nose at SNL. But I
also like that I had this other thing which is
like you guys probably wouldn't, right, Yeah, yeah, the fact
that that was on it was on PBS, right, that's
when we saw. Yeah, I think that's probably where the
states from the beginning, right that, Yeah, Moose's nose wiped

(38:16):
by is pure ready because as a kid, it's like
performance is always registered.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
It's a very obvious direct thing. But for you to
realize that, like, oh, that's writing, like that is a
joke and it's just words on a screen or whatever, is.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
There is that moment when you realize writing is a thing.
It's very odd. It's like you things appear on television
and you're a kid, you kind of just accept it.
Like I remember watching all these movies and just like
I'm watching a movie, I don't think about how it
came to be, it's just in front of me. And
then you realize there's a creative aspect to it, and
you're like, how the fuck would I find myself to
be that person? But that's like a light bulb moment

(38:50):
for a young person.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
I also think the genius and why that movie, Why
Life of Brian, why they endure is you make it
about a thing from a thousand years ago or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
And it's also funny as a kid, you know King Arthur,
and it's only been presented to you. There's never been
a patina of comedy on it, right, and then all
of a sudden it is. So it's also the first
time as a kid you're like, oh, and also you

(39:12):
can be dumb about all this, yes, like you could
tell jokes about the idea of Holy Grail is also
inherently super sun right, Yeah, and we've been saying this
for years now, but I really feel like dumb, frivolous
shit is back like between like spam a lot being
back shocked to which I love, I love shuck and

(39:34):
Josh n Aaron doing Dix is like a perfect example
of just like, let's just make jewelry for people's heads
instead of like making like these gorgeous embellished adornments of
like importance for people. I feel like there's it's great
when something's important, especially in comedy, I guess, but like.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
But we flew a little too close to the sun.
Then as a generation, I think weepy comedy. By the way,
I saw the movie May December. Oh oh my god,
it is a wild. It is a wild. Natalie is
the best she's ever been, Like I'm telling you when
she crushes it like she's and there's obviously no debate,
but obviously one of the best. We have Julianne's cuckle

(40:13):
bird in it, like she has a lisp, which has
to be I'm looking at you, the audience, you have
to go. And then Charles Melton from Riverdale like Deliver
is one of the best supporting performances of the year.
I think the script is naha sah and what I
will say the funniest thing is is the Golden Globes.
I guess I don't know. Maybe they feel this is
the way forward for it, but it's being categorized as

(40:34):
a comedy, and I'm like, wait, I'm sorry, No, that's
the comedy of that is that you think this movie
passes as a comedy. People might disagree because I guess
you could call it like a very very very dark satire,
like a black back, black black black comedy, but like
not really.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
I can't believe in the reboot of The Golden Globes,
the first thing they did was say, we're gonna say
what your movies are. Yeah, you know what I mean,
because that was always like they it was just the
most corrupt, you know, category Hunting or Joe, And maybe
they were like, that's who we are, and that's how.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
People like, Yeah, maybe they're just not afraid of it.
But to hear that May December was going to be
a comedy days after I had seen it, it shook
me to my core. And what I will say is
I think I get the impulse for someone that's done
really hard comedy and stuff like that, like a comedian,
to want to show and express another side I get that,

(41:31):
but also like I just feel sometimes it's a shame
when there are no laughs in something that's meant to
be like a comedy, like and that's why I feel
I hope you're right, because I want to say, like
stupid never left, and Stupid's always been there, but like
it kind of did.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Like I feel like stupid doesn't get Like what a
lot of people were saying about DICKX was that they
were like, this is beyond critique, Like we don't know
how to like the reviewers were like, we don't really
know what to rate this. Yeah, yeah, right, And I
feel like there is something about comedy that's like outside
of like any kind of criticism in a way, in
a way that is unfortunate because I think a lot
of comedy, like The Police are destroy Boys had their

(42:07):
movie came out and like a lot of the reviews
are like, this was great forty out of one hundred.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
Yeah, you know what I mean. It's that is the weird.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
I mean again, it's a reminder why there's a poison
to putting a number on it. Sometimes you read a
thing and all it will be is positive yep, And then.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
When you look at the number and you're like, now,
what what is that? All right? Yeah exactly, And they
do that with comedies all the time.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
Please don't destroy has the thing. They'll still never pass
up the chance to tie it to SNL of course,
of course, so that is the thing they if you
are an SNL person, And it feels like, even though
Lauren had nothing to do with it, like they will
and I was noticing. I'm like, oh, even these people
really like it, or like they want to tell.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
You they know these are guys on us, yes and yes,
and then put it in the same cluster of films
as like Tomato's doing the Ladies Man movie, Like it's
not the same thing anyway I did.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
We were looking for something just again, we're starting to
shut off our brains. My wife and I either today
and because i'd listen to you guys do a list.
I have not since I saw in theaters watched my
best friend's wedding.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
Oh wasn't it great?

Speaker 3 (43:12):
And I feel like, you, guys, the thing that you
forgot to make and is so much When was the
era of I'm doing comedy meant I'm gonna fall down
seven times?

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (43:20):
Yeah, yeah. She's constantly on her back.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
And constantly falling down. And then I think even when
Rupert Everett shows up, he falls down. There's a lot
of like that was an error where people would look
at you when you weren't supposed to be seen, and
you would you would be so taken aback that you
would you would just fall a lot of falling in that.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
She makes everything easy in that even the constant falling down.
A lesser actress, people would be like, watch you have
fallen down so much? Oh, but yeah, everything that is
the ease of it.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
I feel like there's a generation of let's just say
actress who like I've heard anecdotally from people that are like, oh, well,
this actor like across different projects, the same actor has
pitched multiple times to different writers. What if I fell
into I will I'll tell you, I'll tell you who

(44:06):
it is off Mike, But it's the same act legendary,
a list actress who has been in every movie that
you love, has for multiple movies, been like, I think
the scene is fine. I think it'd be better if
I fell into You're gonna love the answer.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
I'd like to make our camera guesses and then you
don't have to say who it is. Okay, please next
episode say whether or not we're right.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
Yes, yes, okay. Well I will also say one of
my favorite stories is when I was at n YU
studying writing in my sitcom class, like this woman had
written on a sitcom that starred It was one of
those like first name sitcoms in the nineties, and she
said that the actress came into the writer's room one
day and said, there's just too much conflict in the episodes?

(44:49):
Can I just come in and jump on the bed.
And they had to explain to her that in her
half hour sitcom, which needs a story and conflict to
create comedy and all the things she really wants, she
can't just come in and jump on again. I know
what you're talking about. I do.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
I remember Fred, when he was pitching Los of Spookies
to me, was saying that he wanted to open it.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
Do you know this.

Speaker 3 (45:14):
He wanted to open the first episode by saying, because
Fred had this theory that conflict is over.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
Oh wow.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
He was like, I think we're I think we're post contact,
which is a very funny Fred idea, and he wanted
to start it by him sitting there and him Fred
arms in this show is called Los of Spookies.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
We just want you to nothing bad's gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
Yeah, so sweet everything everything's going to turn out fine
and we don't ever want you to worry when you
watch this show. I think Basket it was such a
funny idea because of course lots of Spookies is nothing
bad happened. But it was really funny to be like,
we just want you to know a lot of shows
right now because even comedies right like bad things started
happening in comedies all the time.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
It's like, yep, this isn't that that's so funny because
we're working on something together for us, and in the
thing that we're doing, we say, you never worry about
the friendship, don't worry, don't always going to be friends?

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Yeah, And I don't know why that's like a huge
disclaimer that we have to put in there. Yeah, but
it feels like who are we doing that for? For us,
for them, for the network? Like what is that for
for everybody? Because I think it is pretty ingrained at
this point that it's like it's not like we used
to watch sitcoms like it used to be like a
family matters, like a fresh prince thing where it was like, oh,
it's always gonna be fine, yeah, you know, but now

(46:23):
we're not quite as reassured. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
I think that it's also that thing of like us
wanting to be clear about the fact that, like, if
we do something it's gonna be comedy, don't it's not
going to do that thing where it's like I look
over my shoulder at boone in one episode and a
silent teer rolls down my face because I'm concerned about
the deterioration of who we are, you know what I mean, Like,
whereas which I think we've done, We've seen like I'm
tired of and sad and dark, but God blessed those shows.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
But God blessed there was.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
Now I feel like, right a lot of comedies we're
in this sort of gritty comedy area era. I feel
like ten years ago, I remember talking to my friends
that there should be a different category called whimsy that
was not because there was a there was a brand
of comedy for a while where there.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
Was no expectation.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
They were laughs, but it certainly wasn't a drama. But
it just sort of lived in this middle where it
was just it's look, it's whimsy.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
It's jumping on the bed.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
It's the bed.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
Did you have when you were at NYU? Did you
ever take a class taught by Eric Gilliland?

Speaker 1 (47:25):
Eric Gilliland, I don't think so. Was he in dramatic writing.
He had written for Roseanne, Okay, so he. I think
it was like a visiting teacher. The most iconic teacher
we had. His name was Charlie Rubin. He had written
for Seinfeld, SNL and Simpsons, and I remember it was
like three iconic essays and every every every like straight

(47:45):
dude that I was in college with was like Seinfeld, Simpsons,
SNL baby, and like having to learn that. Of course
SNL was like deep and Seinfeld. My dad was like
a huge Seinfeld fan. But the Simpsons was this thing
that like felt like, were you a Simpsons kid?

Speaker 2 (48:01):
I was a Simpsons kid, and then going to NYU
felt completely alienated by all the Simpsons quoting that was
going on around. I thought, I loved this show and
I guess I know nothing about it. Yeah, so it's
taking me this like re I re tutored myself into
this idea that like, oh, I have always loved the
Simpsons just as much as anyone else It's just it
was this competition to see who like loved the Simpsons

(48:22):
the most anyway.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
But Charles Reuben, No, I'm just saying like he was
an iconic teacher, and I remember those three shows like
set him up as being that way, and so I
mean saying that he had that background meant that he
had like disciples. Yeah, he had the full attention.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
Can I review a movie that i've Yeah, yeah, and
I will watch the whole it's The Holdovers the Yeah
I'm hearing, which I really enjoyed the first half of.
But GIAMMANI best Friend's wedding.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
Oh wow, Yes he plays he works at the hotel.
Oh my god. Wow.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
And so I'm very excited thanks to you. I do
believe I'm going to ask him about his time on my.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
You you should, and I'm happy you brought it back
because you know what clip I often go to and
watch again and again and again on YouTube from that
movie It's not pick Me too, as Me Love Me,
which should always get the credit as it walked so
that Meredith Greg could run. Sure, is it when they're
on the boat. It's when they're on the boat. Yeah, yeah,
Kimmy says, just you love someone, you say it, you

(49:24):
say it right then out loud, this is myrmot, it's
Lauren lor. Otherwise, the moment just passes, you buy, passes,
you buy, and then the moment they go, I have
to say something. And this is again, this is praise
for the two.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
I believe you are the way I would describe you
your witnesses, like when you see things like it's so
I was like the backup dancers at Usher are so
lucky you were at their ship. I kind of like, yeah,
but like you know what I mean, Like, you guys
see things and then you talk about things. So I
because you mentioned that quote on your Julia Roberts episode,

(49:59):
and so I think I would have missed how good
that scene was.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
It's so good.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
But because you were talked about it, I want like,
oh wow, Yeah. I sometimes could allow myself to maybe
get a little jaded during a romantic comedy and then I.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
Realized, oh no, this is the it's an excellent one.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
This is the But again, like you need these moments
to like weave it all together, and if you don't
have this really special moment, God was up to his
tricks that day too, because the way that her hair
is blowing.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
It was like they said, we're gonna set up a
perfect day, yeah for this shot. And I have to say,
like that movie, I think there's like, is there anything
problematic about it?

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Even like it's not like other movies of that.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
Why when people start singing at a restaurant it's all
of a sudden scored with a backing shot for sure.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
Problematic problematic?

Speaker 3 (50:50):
Yeah, that was that was It's very safely not problematic
at all. No, and an iconic Chicago movie, iconic, would
you say so? And I think it is an iconic
I got movie you've never seen?

Speaker 2 (51:01):
She is so good?

Speaker 1 (51:02):
Where was her Oscar nomination? Met her exactly one time?

Speaker 3 (51:06):
And you know what, I should answer this question because
sometimes I do a Q and A at my show
before the last act, and sometimes.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
People will say, are you ever starstruck?

Speaker 3 (51:14):
And this is really one of them. I was I
hosted an Emmys and I was backstage with a couple
of writers and at the Emmys there was just a
lot of calming and going between the wings and this
was she had a mini series.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
On Amazon.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
That's exactly right, and that was great. By the way,
she was just sort of racing by and she just
stopped and put a hand on Myra and say, oh
my god, you're doing such a great job. And I
was like, oh my god, thank you. And then she
went and it was just like I didn't have enough
time to be in the moment of Wow, that was
thrilling that. I think, you know, you do enough SNL,

(51:53):
you host a talk show, You think, oh, who can
you meet? That would actually and she's something else. It
did that happen with Taylor Taylor Swift?

Speaker 2 (52:03):
Yeah, but the last time I saw Taylor, I made
an ass of myself and I was very anxious and
she called me out on it.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
It was her and Travis Kelsey.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
I go, I texted you in August a mega mix
on YouTube of your songs and I'm so sorry, and
she goes, what And I go, I was on ketamine
and I'm really really sorry. I shouldn't have done that.
And she was like, and then I apologized to Travis
about something, and then she goes, I think this is
just your anxiety, like, you're right, You're right.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
Bye. It was.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
I think there are moments like that where I go, oh,
working at SNL and doing a show like this, it
makes me worse at talking to famous people.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
Sometimes it does, and you feel that.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
I don't know, I think I'm going through like some
Joseph Campbellian thing where I'm like gonna circle back to
like being okay, But right now I'm in a weird weird.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
Maybe ten hopefully I haven't told this story too much,
but ten twelve years ago, maybe she'd hosted SNL. My
wife and I were somewhere at maybe that time one
hundred event, and she was there and went up and
said hello, My wife's a big fan of hers. And
we said, oh, we're going to Nashville. We had never been,
and she said, oh my God, give me your email.

(53:09):
I'll tell you where to go. And I gave my
email to Taylor Swift and two days later, the longest,
most helpful email I would say, eight mini paragraphs about
different places.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
To go in Nashville.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
And this is still you know, she's not Taylor Swift
of today, but she's Taylor Swift there was at the
time when she has established Taylor Swift. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
I mean some people also, like I've noticed that when
people are like, let me make recommendations, and they mean that.
Some people really love to do that. They're like it's
like a power people have. I forget the name of
every restaurant I ever go to.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
I also don't want the burden of people. I don't
want them to put their vacation in my hands.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
No, absolutely, not like I could.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
I couldn't possibly project my interests onto yours. Is it
because your question, your own taste or their reaction to
my own taste?

Speaker 1 (54:08):
Right?

Speaker 3 (54:09):
So it's insecurity, Yes, it's insecurity. That's one hundred percent.
My dad, my parents gotten it down. I live in
the West Village. My dad said he's staying at a
hotel nearby with my mom, and he said, we're gonna
have lunch with your brother. I'm like, great. He goes,
are there good places to have lunch? Panic in town?

Speaker 1 (54:25):
And I'm like, there are tons a million place. It's
New York City.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
Don't make me tell you.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
But could you say even one? No?

Speaker 3 (54:33):
I couldn't say no. Well, Also, Mike, because my dad
is to his I guess if you think honesty is
a virtue, we'll tell you.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
What he thought.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
Okay, so then you're just protecting yourself protected. Yeah, yeah,
but you know the tricky one, which brings me a
little bit of shame. Is.

Speaker 1 (54:51):
People always ask me about answer.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
I am, and it's that weird thing where you say,
I haven't lived there for twenty five years, and when
I lived there with twenty five years ago, I had
no money and so I don't actually and I'm.

Speaker 1 (54:59):
Like three sentence ago.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
Yeah, it's just not they had a different government, right, yeah,
Like yeah, well.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
Bowen, I'll just say, we gotta go to the Soho house.
Bowen will go to every international Stowho house. You are
their number one game.

Speaker 4 (55:12):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
It's only because I don't know where Berlin.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
I'm like, I've never been here before. I don't know
where to go. Let's go to the soho Is food
there at the German Stufho house.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
It's oh, you haven't had Mexican until you at the
German house.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
I want to have like a membership somewhere, but I
don't know where because then, like I feel like you
get clocked sometimes, like okay, so they're not supposed to
clock you, no, no, no, not clocked in terms of
like we see who you are. It's just like I
feel like people are like, oh, you remember there, you
know what I mean. I know, but that's part of
the exchange.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
I went to Berlin once with some ICINL people and
I'm going to tell you the name of ansnal person
who still works there, who rocked so hard in Berlin,
and it's gonna blow your mind. I'm gonna tell you
the name Eric Kenward. Oh, Eric Kenward r. Last choice, right,
It's not totally unsurprising, yes, but Eric Kenward. We were

(56:03):
out in Berlin. Everywhere we went, we would be at
sort of underground bars. It would be three in the
morning and we would say, are we're gonna go? He's like, yeah,
I'm gonna i'ma go check out another place, just like
he would have gone to the bar and met some
other German.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
And he is because he's very on top of it. Yeah,
we put together person, very put together.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
Person, and he a whole different version of him came
out in Berlin and one night we went to a
night club in Berlin and the next morning he goes,
I think I left my passport at the club.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (56:32):
And it was the funniest thing because it was, you know,
ten am, and we went back like a German nightclub
at ten am looked like there was no no It
was like the amount of locks on the doors. It's like,
this might not open again ever a day. It doesn't
look it looks like a condemned And I'll bring it
back to one of the credits you mentioned. I thank
you very much for doing that New Year's Eve. So

(56:54):
I was in the film Newars Eve. It was then
my final film.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
It's on Delta. By the way, you can watch it
on Delta almost.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
You know what I will say, I have I've been
in the kind of movies that I have seen on
the back of seats where people then flip no, you
still get residentied. I think if they started, I get
a resist. So one of my co stars in that
movie is a guy named Till Schweger who is a
German actor. He was in Gloria's Bastard yep. And he

(57:21):
had said to me, if you're ever in Germany, here's
my number, and I assume you know, I was like,
I'm never gonna see me.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
We worked.

Speaker 3 (57:26):
It was like three days we worked on that movie,
and then I'm in Germany. I'm like and he told
me I'm a huge start in Germany. And so I
text Till Schweiger and I'm like, han with like five friends,
and he goes, oh my god, where are you. I'm
like here, he goes, come over. So he went over
and he was the nicest. He said, I've got a
bunch of bikes.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
We'll get it.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
Well, I'll get bikes. And he's the guy who took
us this night club. And by the way, he was
like everywhere you went he heard people be like this
is like everybody even on bikes, people like so and so. Anyway,
he's like, come out on my boat there. So kenra
loses his passport and we get on till Schweger's boat

(58:04):
and uh, Ken was like, I think I gotta go
to the embassy or you know, because we gotta fly
Andti it's like, what happened. I'm like his left his
passport at the club last night. He's like yeah, hold
on second, and he just like I mean, you know,
it's yeah, is it Schweger? My friend did Kenvid is
a passports?

Speaker 4 (58:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (58:19):
Good guy and he's like yeah, they have it. He
just like call like new like he had like the
phone number to like club owners in Berlin.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
That's incredible.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
And it was immediately like it'll be at your hotel.
So that was that was a lot of you know what,
I will say, I did not enjoy my time on
film sets. I felt very out of my depths.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
Okay, but there's it was a great experience. Who is
your wife?

Speaker 3 (58:42):
And that Jessica Bill, So that's a nice thing just
as a credit. But the other couple was Till Schweger
and Sarah Paulson. Oh, so that was it was a
really nice foursome.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
And uh Marshall.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
It was Garry Marshall. Gary Marshall, who I love. I
loved him so much and he he was a Northwestern guy. Yeah,
and I remember one are the days I had a
scene where I was gonna run down the hallway because
you know, Jessica's water had broken.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
I do not remember her character's name. I apologize.

Speaker 3 (59:10):
I was run down the hallway. I was gonna bump
in an old lady and apologize to her. And I
remember Gary came up with you.

Speaker 4 (59:14):
He goes, I want you to think of your favorite
teacher you ever had, and whatever her name was. When
you bump into this lady, you're gonna say I'm sorry, missus,
whatever her name was, and she's gonna watch it, and
she's gonna say, look at it.

Speaker 3 (59:28):
He remembers me anyway.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
It's so sweet.

Speaker 3 (59:32):
And then end of the day we run along, have
to cut the scene. No, but he comes in, he goes,
I'm cutting the scene. Will you promised me you're gonna
call her?

Speaker 1 (59:41):
Oh you did not?

Speaker 3 (59:44):
I think also the thing that I had never had
that to tell her. I'm like, I'm pretty sure she's long.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
Yeah, yeah, I don't have a scary thought of like
because your favorite teachers when you were young might have
they old now, or you'd see them and they would
look like so different. I'm scared later you to bring
it to that. I had to bring it there, you
know what. I was looking at the New Year's Eve
thing and there's so many stars.

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
Michelle and none of us met each other because it
was everything was like silent. It wasn't like one of
those movies where we all meet.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
Up at the end, so you're not in your future.
You don't see more on camera act I do not,
and I feel great.

Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
I had a moment I remember where I decided I
wasn't going to be I wasn't gonna do that anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
And I was so the relief I felt. It was
so lovely. Well, we had a part for you.

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
I big, big movie, any big movie with you two,
if it's the case where I get to play.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
It was like, you know the one we're talking about, Well, actually,
what are you a role?

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
That's what I was going on. It's like, I think
this is just a challenge.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
I have to say your Gary just now, you're Gary
Marshall just now was unbelievable. Put a camera on you there.
That's an for the bike.

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
I have a perfect level of impersonation for my current
which is very undercooked, but like grabbing the essence of Yes.
There was a moment in time where the beginnings or
the idea of a Steffan script was being discussed when
a millennium bill write one. And this was not a
scene that's ever written, but I did have a pitch
for myself and Steffan, which was because I knew it

(01:01:20):
was going to be Steffan and James Franco, you know,
whatever whoever his It wasn't going to be me and Steffan.
But you figure in, So I figured in. So I said,
here's how I think it should start. It should start
with Stefan when we get update, and then when it's over,
you know, and once again I'm so disappointed that as
the city correspondent he did not bring whatever St. Patricks
State tips, and he said, look, jamake it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
Up for you.

Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
Just come out with me one night, Just come out
have a night me and you together as Stefan's New York.
And I'm like, all right, one night, and then you
would just do these super fast cuts of he and
I and all these crazy clubs. That would be the
opening montage, and then it would end with me in
a body bag and Stefan would say He's dead, and
then title like then the splash stuff on the movie,

(01:02:03):
and then it would be about him following, you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
Know, that would be that is the most beautiful bridge
out of I thought it was a world bridge.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
That is so funny, and honestly, fifteen years before they
would have made that movie, it was Yeah, I think
that was a real Bill had a good sense of
because again it was still pristine to have a has
no character.

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
That also, that was the greatest gift to me as
far as I mean, I thought my job was just
to be Stefan's foil. And then very slowly him and
Malaney wrote this. It was my romantic company.

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
I can't believe it really developed into something gorgeous. It was.
It was a moment in culture. Yeah, that was that
was incredible. We both it was his last.

Speaker 3 (01:02:47):
Bill's last show was that getting married to Andre Cooper,
and we had me saving me the wedding and we
villa and I ran off stage, or he ran off,
and then I followed him, and then it went to
the pre tape and then Bill and I were backed
age right outside the control room wardrobe if you can picture,
and we're watching a pre tape and now he's wearing
a veil and we're holding hands. And it was Bill's

(01:03:09):
last show, and it was Sidigus's last show and friend's
last show, I think, and so and the last the
previous year had been Andy and Wiggs. So for me,
end of the era. I also know I'm leaving that
year at the host late night and Bill and I
are holding hands and we're both like starting to cry.
And I was so funny because I remember I was
getting married a few months later, and I'm like, I

(01:03:31):
don't cry at my real wedding.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
Did you I did that?

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
But it was yes, oh yes, but it's happy Capricorn.
I'm a real happy crier.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:03:43):
I rarely cry out of sadness. I will I'm a
happy I mean, one of the great things in life
is for me is like telling people how much you
love him?

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
How much? I mean, do you? That is so wonderful.
I think if I've ever cried, it's been happy thing.
I don't think I've ever cried for a sad thing
on here on here. Yeah, I've definitely cried for that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
You have, I have.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
I have a nice you have a beautiful range of
range of emotion. I've tried to cry, not even tried
to cry, but like I realized the other day, so
I got on like Xippro this year, and I feel
like it's made me unable to cry, and it's been
hard to not have that because I do identify as
a crier. So then I thought, maybe I'll get off

(01:04:24):
of it. I missed crying. And then you realize, no, no, no,
it's not the reason of it. You might cry all
the time. Can you just lower the doors? So I
get like two, yeah, good cries. Do you know what

(01:04:45):
weekend update character? I always feel like should have come back,
and it came in her last year. And you know
who I'm going to talk about. I know you're gonna
talk about flirting expert Rebecca LaRue. I mean, it's unbelievable,
it's the I think it was her best work ever. Well,
I I'll just say here's how good it was. It was.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
While it was going on, I had a moment where
I thought, am I gonna fuck Christy?

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
It literally is so.

Speaker 3 (01:05:10):
It's so so real, real, so real, And it was
such an indictment the kind of girls that I was
into before I met my wife. Was like having this
weird flashbacks like this is nice. She's making me feel nice.

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
This is so for me because that's why it's so funny,
is because that is a person in the world and
that's how they are. But I gotta say, so, you
can access dress rehearsal footage for every single episode that's
ever aired. I love this and I was so curious.
I was like, how did Rebecca LaRue play a dress?

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
Oh? I don't even know. Do you not remember? I
have no memory.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
I went back and watched the dress version of that
and I read the script completely different, almost completely, and like,
it didn't And I'm gonna say, and I think it's
okay that I say this didn't necessarily play a dress
and It's one of those things where I go, that's
amazing that they're like, we know what to change, we
know how to fix this, and by the time it
got to air it was perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
How would you characterize the changes? It was just like
she didn't open her legs.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
Yeah, dress she did it. I think she like underplayed it.
I think she was quite too long and like it
didn't have a breaking moment by the end, like it
was just they really really fixed it up by it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
I also I'm at risk of saying, well, that was
the Wig era where she knew it would go through
no matter what.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
But that was never her style.

Speaker 3 (01:06:32):
Sure, but that wasn't she never counted on anything right,
So right, I don't even think it was a case
of her being like I'm going to pace myself. I
do think it was a case of her being smart enough.
Probably wrote it with Kent Games. I'm gonna guess where
they knew how to fix it. Yeah, and that is
I mean so early on when I was doing update alone. Shoemaker,

(01:06:53):
who's my producer, my Shreemaker fast he now claims that
he maybe made this up to give me a note
because he said, look, they've done some testing on you
as a solo update host. And one of the things
they said is they don't like when you don't like
the guest. The viewer doesn't like when I'm mad, And
I will say I think that was sort of a

(01:07:13):
bygone comedy move just being frustrated, Like if I was
always frustrated with Stefan, it would have been less fun.
And so I gave myself permission to just enjoy. Yes,
And with that said, there's still so many moments knowing
that they were dress rehearsals of all those characters where
they were so capable, that group of people was so

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capable of still being surprising two hours later.

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
Yeah, But that is the thing where, like I think
Alex Bayz pointed this out, like the most flattering thing
that ever came out of me doing the Iceberg was
like Henry was telling me that Alex Bayes was telling
Henry that, like, the Iceberg is so crazy because it's
usually Colin or Seth or Jay or whoever's at the
update desk being like, hey, come on, hey, come on, guests,

(01:07:59):
like stop doing that. But this was a reversal where
it was Colin being like come on, like like teasing
something out of the guests being like, no, once you
give us something, won't you talk about like the Titanic
thinking but for a little bit. And it's the guests
who's like, no, I'm not going to do that. I
was like, oh, like I that had never occurred to
me and Anna dress and that like that's what we

(01:08:20):
were doing. But like that is the thing that like
that's another ingreen to think about. Asking No, it's like, oh,
whoever's at the update desk is like trying to like
tamp down the fun of whatever's going on with the
guests or something.

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
Yes, absolutely, but like people will say, how did you
not laugh during stuffan? And I was saying, I think
I laughed all the time. Yeah, I think that was
part of the fun of it. When you go back,
like I allowed myself. One of my friends Neil Brannan said,
he goes. I like to think of update as the
last place anyone can get their clients booked. Like everyone has,
they've already they've had just like look morning, Joe will

(01:08:49):
not have gone back. He's a persona non grada, you know,
but they think, you know, if we could just he promises,
And so that was another funny way to think about it,
which this is the last place with any of these
people can be on it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
That is such a good frame. Yep, totally. Well, I
think it's time. It might be time. I don't think so, honey.

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:09:10):
This seth is our one minute segment we do. It's
where we sort of drag something on culture for let's
say a minute, and we said, I don't think so, honey,
threw out. I have something, and it's it's not to
attack London. It's to make an observation again about something
I've said in the past, because let me just get

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into it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
Okay, this is Matt Rounders. I don't think so many
times starts.

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
I don't think so many of the showers in London. Oh,
I've come for the water closets and the situations with
the toilets being in a separate room. I have a
huge bruise on my ass right now. I collapsed in
the shower. I didn't even fell. I collapsed. It was
more than what Julia Roberts does for comedic effect. It
was a full collapse. Okay, I have to tell you
what we're trying to do. I appreciate that the shower

(01:09:55):
and the toilet were in the same room. But when
the room is too small, that means the shower is
too small as well. The shower too small, I collapse
the bruise on my as seconds. I was, of course,
because this is the horniest time of the year, dming
with people about potentially hooking up with them in the
days prior to Thanksgiving because people get super horny on
the DMS this time of year. I told you this
on your show. Yes, I can't hook up with anyone

(01:10:16):
right now because of the ganger tax bruise on my ass.

Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
Right now.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
I would show you, but I just don't think everyone
wants to see it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
I have to say it's bad, it's limiting, and it's
because of the size of the shower.

Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
I don't think so, honey. The way we're set up
to fail in London in these certain rooms with the plumbing,
that's so scary. I have to tell you. It was
just a thing where I was like in the shower
and I was just like, okay, well if I can't
really move It's like, you know, when there's like too
much room you have fun in the shower and you're
kind of moving around.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
I don't move around that much, stand right, on what's
your shower style?

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
You stand right under the water and.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
Then I'll reach and grab a bottle of something.

Speaker 1 (01:10:56):
But I'm not. I'm not really using the space. I
like to like very much move around in the swer.
It's not dancing. Will that there's there's a hazard?

Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
Well sure, but like I feel like your lawyer, if
you're going to take legal action against this hotel, your
lawyer right now is stop talking, man.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
You are putting yourself in a hard position. And Okay.
So then they had what was called a rubber matt,
which I guess I was supposed to put down. I'm
not saying no, I'm not because my lawyer, Seth, you're
a lawyer to he'll be like, I don't know because
I think this Seth is right, But I will say

(01:11:31):
I open up. Our laws name is actually Seth. The
lawyers name is Seth. Silent killers. We love our lawyers.
They were described to us before we hired them as
silent kill Were they really?

Speaker 4 (01:11:42):
I was not.

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
They were not described as that to me. We had
a manager who was like, you're gonna want these guys.
They're silent killers. They're not the kind of lawyers that's
like in peoples. They're they're lovely, very very good lawyers.
They love when we talk about them. Mother shows. So
we always get a text that's great, well, Seth always texts.
Is not a texter, Yeah, and not with me. He's
a silent text, That's what it is. I'm just not

(01:12:04):
I'm just not seeing it. So I opened the rubber
mat and it's like yellow and like it looks nasty,
and I'm like, I'm not putting my feet on that,
especially as someone who's a survivor of athletes' foot right.
I had athletes over about nine months. Oh, and I
realized it was because I had to have my shower washed.

Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
But can I say that you having a bruise on
your ass does not necessarily preclude you from hooking up
with anybody some people, can I say?

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
It's not like cute bruise, Like, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
Like, that's not up to you, all right, that's up
to the other person.

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
I guess should I run the risk?

Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
I think you should. Also, I don't I disagree that
this is the horniest time of year. In a month,
it will be the horniest time of year.

Speaker 3 (01:12:43):
It's actually I don't disagree with me every on record
thing for me and press, Oh busy interesting. So it's
not weather related or like where our bodies are at
during now today, It's just it's just that everyone's busy.

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
It's about to become the horniest time of year. Because
I said this on his show, but it basically it's like,
I know you did well forever on listening at home
that didn't watch my incredible segment agree.

Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
With Henry texted me they were like that was so funny.
I said, I have no doubt. And then I said
to you, I was like, you have Seth's number.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
I was like, what are you guys in a group
chat called Laurence Faves called Lauren Boys Lauren's Boys. So
in a little while, it will become the thing where
people are like at home for a little bit too long.
And I'm telling you this is when you shoot your
shot with the person that you like, have like flirted
with before a little bit, but like it's never gone there.
I bet back in the day, and you can say

(01:13:32):
back in the day, certain hosts came through, like Girl
Lady hosts like that that were into it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
Jeffer Lawrence admitted to having a crush but yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:13:39):
I will say this, Uh Leaney once said this, did
you know we.

Speaker 1 (01:13:44):
Could flirt with the host?

Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
I was like no, because I feel like a lot
of people did very well. Andy Samberg really yes, I
think saday kiss and then it never occurred to me.
I mean, I will say bowen. I feel like every
day for me at SNL's head writer was Christmas.

Speaker 1 (01:13:59):
I was too busy. I was just too busy. Just
thank you, and you probably knew that they were like
coming on, but you were.

Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
Like, I don't think my radar for that was not up.
I was as shocked as anyone when I heard that
bounce from Jennifer Lawrence.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
Wow, shocked, not surprising to me at all. But I
mean you had every Rebecca LaRue in the city.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
I had lu years. We need to have our LaRue years.
Are they happening now? And we just don't know. I
think I'm letting them slip away.

Speaker 3 (01:14:32):
I know, I think I had a moment that maybe
there was a nightclub I used to go to that
a friend of mine now's kids were having their barmits
fat It was just that moment is starting to happen
where like you know, we're talking about like New York City,
like it's one thing when there used to be a
theater there. Even worse if it's the thing you used
to go to still there and.

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
Now it's this and now it's for venues to go
through generations.

Speaker 1 (01:14:55):
Yeah, like to look at it, to look at a
corner where you like made out with the Rebecca LaRue
and like there's like a thirteen year old like growing
up not good anyway. I'm just nervous about the bruise
on my ass, and then I feel like it's that
weird thing where if I go to hook up with
someone like Jessing, you know, there's a huge bruise on
my ass, and then I'm kind of scared of the
reaction work they're really enthusiastic. I'm sort of over the

(01:15:17):
thing where guys like try to like hurt me during sex.
Now that's out, it's out. And if you're in my
DMS being like some people really can't stop with the
whole thing of like I'm gonna come over in choke
you or I'm gonna come over in like you're gonna
be in an immense amount of pain. I'm like, what
is it?

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
What is it?

Speaker 3 (01:15:37):
That's a real reverse LaRue, that's a very different vibe.
This just speaks back to a very hornier time in
my life. I remember when it's being with a girl
who is in your situation. But I remember she said,
I have a boil that I need lance and I
don't wanna. I never hooked up with air, and I
remember being like, I'm sure it's fine. I literally eatn

(01:16:00):
which is the word. I was like, it's fine, and
I think that we should still do it, and she
was like, no, let me and let me lance the boil,
let me land boil.

Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
But at the time, I was like, this is you
know what? Hy are we getting hung up on boils?
It seems she was asking you to lance it. I
would you think maybe maybe maybe come over with your Okay? Well, anyway,
I guess in a couple of days time, when this
episode is out, maybe it'll have gone down a little bit.
I'm working at the camera, but I'll be home with

(01:16:28):
my goddamn parents. And I have to say, Long Island
Grinder sucks. A Yeah, it's tough out there, but maybe
I can find a straight guy. You know. I'm still
trying to figure that out. Anyway, This is I don't
think so, honey, are you excited about that? I'm excited.
Do you have something that you've been thinking about for
a long time? Not a long time, but it's top

(01:16:50):
of mind. Okay, well, you know a lot of people
are gonna listen to this one. It's a seth Meyer's episode.
This is Bowing Young's Out twenty time starts.

Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
Now. I don't think so, honey. Weighted blankets, I am.
These are so dangerous. These are so dangerous. These will
kill me.

Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
I'm waking up.

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
Groggy as hell because of this fucking X ray apron
on my chest. And why are some of them filled
with glass beads? Is this the cock on a Thursday night?
Get the beads out, and I'm sorry to shame the
people who like the beads in them. Get the beads
out of my blankets because it's not And how come

(01:17:26):
half of them aren't machine washable? So I'm supposed to
spot treat these things that are disgusting and heavy.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
No way.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
I better be able to put it in my drum,
in my little machine and clean them. Otherwise I'm getting
the factory smell on me and that is not going
to relax me. These weighted blankets are going to ruin
my sleep.

Speaker 1 (01:17:47):
And my life.

Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
And if you get me one for Christmas, or anyone
you love for Christmas, you're wishing death upon your loved one.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
And that's one minute. It's not and I don't really
use it, and I think it's a novel.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
I think it's just we're all gonna laugh at how
much we supposedly loved these things in a couple of years.

Speaker 3 (01:18:07):
I also think the bane of a weighted blanket is
when you decide you hate it, almost impossible to throw it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
You can't. Yeah, you're forever.

Speaker 3 (01:18:15):
Oh it's gonna be whenever you move out of your apartment,
you're going to leave it as a welcome to.

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
The next person, and you're never going to move out
of that parting anywhere near that next person.

Speaker 1 (01:18:25):
I think that they're really good in theory, But what
I fear about the weighted blanket is what actually is
it doing to our backs and our bodies? Because I
don't think that that can be good for you, because
you're not really supposed to sleep with them on right,
you're supposed to like rest with.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
Some people say that you can sleep with them and
that they're helpful for sleep, And yet I was talking
to I was talking to our friend Amber roughing about
this yesterday.

Speaker 1 (01:18:47):
Sorry yesterday, sorry yesterday as well, and she.

Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
Said, my fear is that I'm going to be too
weak to get out of it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:56):
But I am laughing thinking about Amber struggling under a
like late late for work.

Speaker 3 (01:19:03):
Yeah, I got a work before I do my I
don't think so, honey. There was something in a recent
episode that struck home.

Speaker 1 (01:19:13):
Can I ask you are you're a reader? Like, what's
going on? How do you identify? I guess a reader? Finalist? No,
you're a finalist.

Speaker 3 (01:19:22):
Donna Karan, Donna Kana.

Speaker 1 (01:19:25):
Here is mine?

Speaker 3 (01:19:26):
I had one, which is my mom my entire life
said Tommy Hillfinger.

Speaker 1 (01:19:31):
That's huge.

Speaker 3 (01:19:32):
My mother would and I did not never got corrected
because I think then I it was a catalog that
came to our home and my dad wore a lot
of Tommy Hillfinger. But then it was nothing to correct
it for me, right, And then I did a charity
event for Tommy Hillfinger, and it was thank god I
wrote my jokes and I showed it to Shoemaker and

(01:19:52):
thank god I spelled it hillfinger and my because I
was ready, and he goes, I'm going to say something,
and I wish to be a f Do you think
his name is Tommy Hillfinger, I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:19:59):
Like, say things name because it is not Tommy, it's
Tommy Hilling. I'm like, oh my god, this could have been.

Speaker 3 (01:20:05):
Is that to get it wrong in front of him
at an event honoring.

Speaker 1 (01:20:10):
That's like saying Jimmy Buffet, Jimmy Buffet at his funeral,
James Buffet? Rest rest in? Are you a parro? Heead?
I never cared about it. It was a thing.

Speaker 3 (01:20:22):
I will say there was a moment in I but
so whatever ninety two to wait, hold on, is it
really good?

Speaker 1 (01:20:29):
That's right. I was high school eighty nine to ninety two.

Speaker 3 (01:20:31):
There were a lot of kids who like love Jimmy Buffett. Yeah.
I mean like we would go to parties and that
would be there was like Elton John Moxte came out
that year and there was a Jimmy, a lot of Buffett.

Speaker 1 (01:20:41):
And John that was that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
This is inurban suburban New Hams, suburban New Hampshire.

Speaker 1 (01:20:46):
Yeah, I think it's a thing, and it's an.

Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
Access point for a lifestyle that is so far away
from you. Yeah, especially if you're in New Hampshire or
maybe even Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:20:55):
The day my dad was at the beach crying a
cheer and poor on one out. Good for him.

Speaker 3 (01:20:59):
Yeah, he was a massive good I mean, I do
think and that was a very nice I mean talk
about a non toxic culture.

Speaker 1 (01:21:06):
Right, yeah, totally perfect. Who do you stan? Who do
I stand?

Speaker 3 (01:21:10):
I feel like I'm I'm I'm outgrowing my stand years
like a lot of the things I stand. I you know,
I don't even know who I stand anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:21:19):
Let's say the last person that you were like, I'm
gonna really I'm gonna listen to the whole discography. I'm
going to like familiarize myself with this person, these people
because I love them so much.

Speaker 3 (01:21:30):
Well, okay, so somebody, this music critic I really like,
wrote he did make a list of his fifty favorite
Elton John songs. There are a lot of them that
I didn't like. I realized, I'm like, oh, I didn't know.
And there's a lot of like seventies Elton stuff that's
really great and like not radio friendly because they're like
nine minute songs.

Speaker 2 (01:21:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
So I had a very nice summer listen to a
lot of long Elton John song.

Speaker 1 (01:21:50):
Elton John is one that I got my dad the
Goodbye yellow Brook Road vinyl. And he got really way
more excited than I thought he would, and it excited
me how excited he was perfect album?

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
Yeah, would you Stan? I think Jeff tweeties, but he's
a friend.

Speaker 1 (01:22:05):
He's quite friendly now. But like I do, Stan, will
seth Are you ready for? I don't think so, honey.

Speaker 3 (01:22:18):
I am. I'm so ready for I don't think so, honey.
And I hope you let me just do it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:22):
What are your hopes for this?

Speaker 3 (01:22:23):
My hopes is that, well, it's going to be holiday theme, okay, great?
And I really do Rockfeller Senna. That's one of your
songs right in your name, I know, And I was
a little worried because you know, Fallon gets name dropped
early and so then you worry like and I would
not begrudge you made it, and so I'm very happy
that I find my way in later.

Speaker 1 (01:22:42):
I forgot to bring that up when I was on
your show. Should you know that you were in the song?

Speaker 3 (01:22:47):
I did not know I was in the song when
you were on. I knew I was in the song
when I because I listened to the album after you
were on, and I was very happy because when I
heard fallon early.

Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
I was like, oh boy, oh shit, I wouldn't. But again,
that was the right choice.

Speaker 1 (01:23:00):
But yeah, what's fun about that is starting with Jimmy
and then going to Allen and landing in Jenna bush Haiger. Absolutely,
and Jenna bush Haigger is a laugh line. And that's
actually the culture number eighteen is a laugh line. I
was actually one of my favorite people in culture.

Speaker 3 (01:23:13):
I think I'm gonna see her tomorrow. I really, yeah, perfect,
I'll tell her how you guys say we love her.
We're about to see her too, We're about to Are you.

Speaker 1 (01:23:22):
Really your house or yours? No? I mean, is she
coming up? Gotcha? Gotcha? But I need you coming right before?
Cecily Strong? Really I think strong Meredith.

Speaker 3 (01:23:36):
Yeah that was and you know who is really happy?
Verizon Corporate.

Speaker 2 (01:23:41):
That was you get Verizon money if you're next to you,
but one version between us, no pain.

Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
Well here's the thing, here's the people the curtain about
that song. So I'm writing that part because I wanted
to have Verizon And I said, you know what, I'm no,
I'm said, I don't care what anyone thinks. Ann Curry
is going in this song. I know Anne Curry is controversial,
like in the all of it, but I was like,
I don't care. This is my fight song, like Anne Curry.
All respect to Anne Curry is the lyric, and that

(01:24:08):
is true forever.

Speaker 2 (01:24:09):
Yeap love her, Love Anne, love Anne.

Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
And for the pod, and she'd be an incredible guest.
She really would be.

Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
You think, yeah, okay, this is seth Myers's holiday themed.
I don't think Soney as time starts now, I.

Speaker 3 (01:24:21):
Don't think so honey. Out of towners who visit the
Rockefeller Christmas Tree, this is an office. It's a place,
of course. Just listen to Matt's song.

Speaker 1 (01:24:28):
Yeah, people work there.

Speaker 3 (01:24:30):
And I get it, But I think you all come
from places where there are a lot of trees you
go see. Is it just that there's one tree amongst buildings.
If you put one building amongst the forest, I wouldn't
come and visit it. Also, you can look at the
weather before you visit New York City, and sometimes I
hate to say it, but due to climate change, it's
not zero degrees. So don't wear your biggest coat because
that's basically each person is two people and we don't

(01:24:53):
have enough room in the concourse for that. Yeah, here's
the biggest thing though, if you go to the tree lighting,
I have so much respect for you to be there
person when they light the thing up, just look at it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:02):
Just enjoy the moment.

Speaker 3 (01:25:02):
Because too many of you hold up your phones and
you try to take a photo of the moment the
lights go on. That's an impossible moment to take because
you either get the moment before the lights are on
or the moment the lights are on.

Speaker 1 (01:25:14):
And I just this is the thing. You're there, you
fought through the crowds. Just watch it.

Speaker 3 (01:25:17):
Yes, live, but a merry Christmas doll, and I do
appreciate you, actually dead right.

Speaker 1 (01:25:24):
And the thing about needing to document the tree lighting
is they're actually they're grabbing that. They're grabbing it. They're
actually grabbing it. There's professionals that are grabbing it for you.
So you can actually have that moment documented. You don't
need to be the one to do it. I promise you.
There's actually a huge televisce special.

Speaker 3 (01:25:42):
Where they're getting it slipping around get you and your family,
but with the tree in the background, no one's gonna
say you shouldn't do that. But just that moment of
trying to be that I was there when the light
went on, so you can't take that photo.

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
Yeah, what is that?

Speaker 2 (01:25:55):
How does that play into your own Christmas experience? I
think everyone's fine just looking at the tree from Saxspith
Avenue and then keeping it moving.

Speaker 1 (01:26:05):
We would come in from Long Island to see it,
and even as a pre ironic like whenever when I
was in like middle school, I was just like, look,
like I get we're going into the city to see
a show, Like I understand this culture, but the tree.
I was like, I never got the tree. And I
think that's where the song comes from. It's just like
this is so silly, but.

Speaker 3 (01:26:23):
Like, well, your song is great because you respect it
as a place of work that you were. You were
singing a song about a holiday place. But what I
like about the lyrics is you keep reminding people, yes,
this is where people work.

Speaker 1 (01:26:35):
But it also encourages voyeurism and it encourages the encroachment
of privacy. And I'm happy you're here, so I can
apologize to you about that because I think you're really
on the map. Because of my song, people are going
to be on the hunt.

Speaker 3 (01:26:46):
I didn't realize, so I was speaking about nobody on
the hunt. I like when you know BTS is a felon,
there's so many people outside, right, Yeah, and talk about
a ven diagram where it's two circles. Yeah, like I
can walk and like nobody and again I walk out
with a couple of scurity guys, So there you would
be there's a moment where you're like, is it you know,
like you you know, you see a guy.

Speaker 1 (01:27:07):
You say and nothing. Man.

Speaker 3 (01:27:09):
I found out at SNL after the fact that like
there are people in my cast who at the end
of the show would go to the basement to get cars.

Speaker 1 (01:27:16):
Wow, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:27:19):
You. And I'm starting to get when I walked out
now not the biggest response anybody. And it's fine, It's
actually it's a beautiful moment. I'm like, yeah, I'm not
like wet behind or I'm not like thee that's.

Speaker 1 (01:27:31):
Literally not true. I think that you're probably just used
to it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:34):
No, no, no, I think it's very used to me.
And they're like, oh, there's the.

Speaker 1 (01:27:38):
Glamour of walking from those doors to the cars when
it's like the thing of they recognize you. I never
think that's ever gonna like happen for me. And then
when I was at Bravo con Oh. I got out
of a car at Bravocan and walked and it was
people were screaming like I was beats he s. I
was like why, because I've been on watch it appens.

(01:27:58):
I have a handful of times and that is what
are their chef's kiss the way they act.

Speaker 3 (01:28:04):
Lovely two thousand and one SNL. I feel like it
was the end of an era. I feel like it
was the last vestiges of sex in the city of
New York before it shifted to the post nine to eleven. Yes,
and the cars to the SNL after party were stretch limousines,
like old school promise stretch limousines, and so you know,
now I think it's all svs. And so it was

(01:28:26):
such a trip when you I would have high school
friends or college tens of the show and it was
everything you wanted to be where you'd like get into.

Speaker 1 (01:28:33):
A limb wretch.

Speaker 2 (01:28:34):
Kyle Mooney would still get one every week before.

Speaker 1 (01:28:39):
Yeah, it was so talk about a Disney person. Oh Kyle,
Kyle will suck it up at Disney. Oh, I got
he goes with Franko.

Speaker 3 (01:28:46):
Lespie ran back and back they yeah, ye, back back
and I were at Sarah Schneider Mike Carnell's wedding and
it was in Virginia, and I went on my oh,
and I got like a room that was it was
like a two room villa each type. It's not a
villain because it was like all colonial, but anyway, you'd

(01:29:08):
walk in the front door, you go right and it
was one hotel room and left in it was the other.
And they were like each sweets. And I again it
was a wedding where I was on my own and
had a nice time. And then I went back. I
was going to drive back the first thing in the
morning and Beck had people do his room and it
was the funniest thing. It was so loud and dumb.
I kept me on, but it was Beck was doing
the dumbest bits that were It was making me laugh

(01:29:31):
so hard, usually because it was just I was like,
he would be so devastated if he knew you heard.

Speaker 2 (01:29:37):
It's like, I'm it's like somebody rolled a bed with
me in it into the middle of it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:41):
I hear.

Speaker 3 (01:29:42):
And he did write me the nicest note, because I
think in the morning he slowly put it together.

Speaker 1 (01:29:46):
He was like, oh no, and it was really one
of our biggest sweeties. Love love that guy, love that guy.
Speaking of loving that guy, love this guy.

Speaker 2 (01:29:57):
Period.

Speaker 3 (01:29:57):
This was this was everything I wanted to be. My
favorite thing was when it started and Matt said I
have a surprise for you and you literally heard a
rustle and guessed it exactly exactly, really speaks to hell Insike,
you too are.

Speaker 1 (01:30:08):
Oh listen, I have a psychic connection to him. And
honestly it's really we have Emily to thank because when
she gave me this for you, I was like, I
should have And then I got a friend good because
I was like, why didn't I know? And I got
an elevator today to go down from my apartment to
come here, and I had forgotten them, and I said,
let me go back. I was like, I have to

(01:30:28):
get this to my girl.

Speaker 2 (01:30:29):
And still you got here before I did. Yeah, that's amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:30:34):
Don't feel It's.

Speaker 3 (01:30:34):
Such an honor and a pleasure to be here with you, guys.
This is just the best show. You guys are so good.
You're still good at many things, but you are the
two of you together do this. Has been just so
happy to be here in person.

Speaker 1 (01:30:46):
This is the best and the God in person and
it's caught on film. Yeah, and give it up for
the crew. They've been so great. Did you guys enjoy
yourself today? All right, there we go? Yes, yes, this
is incredible. You got to watch Late Night with Teth Myers.
You probably already are because we have such a cool
audience with a great sense of humor. You guys, you

(01:31:08):
might have to come on our podcast one day. Oh yeah, yeah.
We have trip stories for sure. Between stories. You know,
there was We've told the story many times. But Bowen
almost threw up on a plane and I got mad
at him.

Speaker 2 (01:31:19):
He got mad at me for being for feeling nausea
on a plane.

Speaker 1 (01:31:23):
Well we'll talk about that. We end every episode with
the song why is this one in my head? Good Tuesdays?
Becauselton John?

Speaker 3 (01:31:40):
But that's not but I feel like psychically it is
Elton John, but famously not famous.

Speaker 1 (01:31:46):
Psychically it's actually look culture number eight. Psychically, yes, famously
not Bye bye

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