"Yes, Mama" (w/ Rosebud Baker)

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Look, may Oh, I see you and look over there
is that culture. Yes, lost culture ding Dong, lost culturist.
This is a brand new space and I really had
to orient myself.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
This is it. It's very sunset Bulevard, those people out
there in the Vard. Yeah, it's very I love that
for you too. And Vanessa's character is auditioning for to
be a QVC tvc host. You know what I just
realized about you. They'd be so lucky to have you
go to QVC. No, don't even why do you why

(00:35):
you would?

Speaker 3 (00:36):
No?

Speaker 2 (00:37):
I said you could sell products on television live. It
is a hard job and it is kind of too.
It's like in cased in amber, that kind of television.
You know, it's like time, like seeing Stacy Rush do
it from the real House of the Potomac. M be
a QVC legend. I go, this is so comforting. These
women are selling some of the ugliest jeggings you've ever seen.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
Juwel tone jegging that comes with a bracelet and it's
like a christ bracelet. It's like, what I love about
these jewel tone jeggings is I can feel confident and
sexy while also staying a Christian woman. Yeah, and I'm
a Christian woman while I also you get you know,
I'm fun.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
And that's one thing at home that I think a
lot of people are thinking. And I know there's a
lot of good Christians out there, is can I still
be fun? Wow? Now these are flying off the shelves.
We've we've already sold twelve these are these are really sellings.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
And we only have fifteen. And so that's why I'm
saying this is And that's how I know there's a
lot of great Christians out there.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
And this isn't a gang, but this is. And can
I just say we were just doing it? You know
we were You were doing it? No, you I was.
I'm sorry? Am I blind it doing it? You were
doing it? I like threw a penny in the fountain,
you know what I mean? I didn't, I didn't fully.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
You threw a rhymestone.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Wow, a jewel tone, a jewel ton ran so speaking,
I mean writer performers then up legend by the way,
like we're sitting here, we're just thrilled because this has
been a long time been a long time coming. This
is someone who has seen us bomb and gravel and

(02:13):
just be among not bomb. We've we've bombed. I've never
seen you bomb. I don't know if I don't know
if when have we never seen you? True?

Speaker 3 (02:22):
No, I truly I would not say that. I would
honestly say I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
I had Union Hall sweats in front of you at
some point while you were in the back, being like
Union Hall sweats. Is that something we'd call it? It's
a union Oh? I felt many Union Hall sweats. I
guess I crushed at Union Hall every time.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
You've never never has only felt the Union Hall shoulder
shake one off stage killed them people.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
I was bombing so hard. I turned around to the
lady who's hanging on the wall, and I said she
was Mary Todd Lincoln. But that's not who that lady is.
But you know what I mean, you might as well
be married to Miss Hall, Miss Hall.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
And but listen, this voice that you're hearing, if you're
listening to this at home, is one of our pals.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
It's been a long time coming. The mother Load is
the special. Honestly, it is funny every single second, which
dare I say. You can't say even about stand up specials,
most of them. This is not any piece of comedy,
any piece of comedy like come see us at Union
Hall ten years ago. You get a few chuckles in,
they're going to chuckles and that's it. She's self directed

(03:25):
it which we need to talk about love. That's fucking
so fun, so cool of you. I need we need
to ask you about this. She's on the Harmless Lady tour.
By the time this comes out, she will have Edmonton,
I'm sorry, Baltimore than Edmonton and Sacramento. Shut up. I
can't believe it.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
You know, you know my tour date.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
I know your date.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
I don't know the dates. Well, it's up from I
mean the cities into the cities. I think Cleveland is
in there.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Cleveland's in there. I think by the time this comes out.
But yeah, Cleveland from the future. Go see Yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
And you just really really feel shame about this because
the fact is this is one of the greats. Please
welcome into your ears, Rosebud Baker. I'm so excited when
I saw you at SNL the other night, at the
overwhelming joy I felt. And it wasn't just because Lady
Gaga was in the building. It was because Rose the
fuck it.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Every time I see you at SNL, I get like
I get excited. And it's not just because somebody from
outside of the.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Building is in the building.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yeah, you know, sweats where you're like, oh my god,
somebody somebody humanity.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Does you feel Have we talked about this? It feels
a little bit both violatory and exhilarating when like people
from the outside world like yeah, me yes.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
And it's it's odd because obviously love my husband, hate
bringing him to the party, really hate. I feel like
I'm a babysitting. He doesn't operate with this is the problem.
He doesn't operate with the same level of paranoia that
I have to operate at. So I walk around after
him just being like, what do you say to them?

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Right to them? It's like knowing where the land mines
are in the battle.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
Yes, and He'll be like they were fine, and I'm like, yeah,
but what face did they?

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Right? I now just pictured Andy just walking into a
battlefield and it was It made me laugh. He's a
funny guy. Funny guy he is.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
He's he is a Redwood.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
Honestly, bts for people that that that we're not here
for the conversation. Prior to us recording, I saw Redwood
last night. The Dina Menzel Tree Musical. We're calling it
Tree Dina.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
Here's what I'll say. I loved watching her in the tree,
and I loved how much joy she was feeling doing
the musical. And that is where I will end. That's
what people say to me every week after an SNL show. You,
I like you so much, so much fun in this guy.
And that's that's what a comedy show should be.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Yeah, that's what's important.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
You bring us joy.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Yeah, and and and you're happy.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Yeah, you have no idea what I've been through. Yeah,
But anyway, this special is so good.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
Thank you, thank you for watching it. I truly whenever
when I start already doing it, when I was like, Okay,
I'm going to do a special about like becoming a
mom and what that feels like, I was like, this
feels a little bit like walking into an open grave
because everybody, no one cares. No one cares. Whenever I
bring up motherhood, I feel like I just was like,

(06:16):
are you guys into rollerblading? Everybody just looks at me
like if you are, I guess you know. So I
tried to make it a special that felt like whether
you had had kids didn't have kids. It was funny
and you could enjoy it, and so I feel like
I succeeded.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
It just feels like you the entire time.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
It doesn't feel like this is my special on motherhood
or becoming a mother. It's feels like this is Rosebud's special, right,
And I love that.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (06:43):
It's it's great. You really are one of the best
joke writers out there. No, I'm it's it's for real.
I mean like it's just great to say people like
actually put jokes in.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
And a comedy piece period.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
What feels and what's important to is that you're happy
and you had fun.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
You were having fun up and you're having fun up.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
There was the choice to shoot I guess you shot
it twice, yes, once eight months.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
So I shot two separate hours, right. It was like
I shot the first hour when I was eight months pregnant.
I waited a year. I took the jokes from that
hour and I kind of like built on them based
on my experience after having had the baby, right, and
then shot a second half of it a year after
having the baby and combined the two into one special.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
It was really fun to do, honestly, I mean it
was terrifying.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
And crazy.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
When I look back at it, I'm like, that was
insane of me. Only somebody who's like living with the
fear of being kicked out of the industry it would
do something like this. No, truly, I like that is
what I look at it, and I'm like that was
what was motivating me. I was like, I have to
keep working, you know, like like this is going to
feed her, you know.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
So, oh I hear you.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
Yeah, So I was like I was working my ass off,
But it was really when I look back at it,
I'm like, it's so I do feel like and I
feel like a loser saying it. I'm like, it does
feel like it's so me, And so when I look
at it, I'm like, I'm proud of it. It doesn't
feel like something where I was trying to like impress,
you know, middle aged men, which when I watch my

(08:23):
first special, I'm like, Okay, I see what you were
doing there. You were trying to like get the respect
of the comics and get that, you know, And now
I watch this and I go that was that was
like one hundred percent me and just trying to like
make something that I was proud of, you know.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
And like you shouldn't even like rate yourself retroactively on
the first special because we went through that phase. We're
probably still going through that phase of like, I guess
it should appeal to a general audience, which means inevitably
like people that aren't like me exactly.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
Yes, yes, let me sort of traffic in this thing
that I don't necessarily believe in and also am not
so that I can get across this thing that may.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Do better as a result. Right, But then you find
out it's a complicated thing. But it's like, no, just
be yourself. That's what's gonnnect with people. And yes, that
connects you with your fans, but it still doesn't really
work in the industry. Yeah, there still will ask.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
It's like you can build your own fan base, and
it's like the industry is still like, well, what.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
About the men in Ohio?

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Right?

Speaker 2 (09:21):
I forgot about them because I don't think.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
I don't care. I don't want them, I don't even care.
Like it surprised me that men did like the special
like straight guys did. Like it was a little disappointing,
but I was like, okay, I'll take the win. I
was like, okay, but it did feel like I guess
that's just what happens, like when you are you, it doesn't.
Then that's all you want. You just want to get

(09:44):
on stage and not have to just get over that
hump of like explaining who you are in the context
of the rest of the world for the joke to land.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah, do you know what I mean? Well, because it's
it's that thing. And I'm rolling my eyes as I
say this out loud. It's like you're being so specific
that it feels universal, right, like like the guy in
Ohio can appreciate, like as a husband getting post part
of anxiety like Andy did or something.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
Ye know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Yeah, which I didn't even know could happen either. I
didn't know it could happen, but then obviously.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
It made sense, like it is his child. And it's
like if you if you're someone who can rum in
it on the idea of like this is a thing that.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Wasn't alive a little bit ago, right, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 3 (10:22):
Yes, And You're like and the whole time, it's funny
because I have like a traumatic reaction to like sickness.
I'll be like, she's not sick, he's not sick, And
then Andy you'll be like, but she is, but she is,
And it actually turns out to really be perfect because
Jill called the doctor on stuff where I'm like, I
don't think we need to be concerned about that because
that could be a nightmare for me emotionally and terrifying

(10:45):
and for her. And sometimes I'm like, thank god, you're paranoid,
because yeah, sure, you know.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
It's a checks and balances. Yeah. Do you think that that?

Speaker 4 (10:53):
Because also in especially you talk about how you guys
were raised very differently like you like you'd make a
joke about like your dad throwing you like a football
into like a lake and being like that's how you
swim and then jumping in and saving you and being like.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
You saved your life a guy. Yeah, and whereas like
you know, split.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
Into loving your father yeah right yeah, and he's from Seattle,
from a more like I guess, liberal progressive yeah situation.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yeah. Do you think that that has informed you as parents,
even if you're like growing up being like that, there's
no way, there's no way I'm not going to throw
my kid in the water.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
Right, Yeah, one hundred percent, because I'll be like I
remember him coming home with minno and and he was like,
I think she has a dairy allergy. And I remember
my reaction going, no, she doesn't.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
That's not those don't exist, even fully aware they do.
But your parent jumps out.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
I literally was like, no, right, not an option. And
I didn't. I didn't look into it. I didn't ask
him why he thought that.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Even I just.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Went neath, it's not now brand new gut, yeah, brand
new gut.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
You can't ergy this way, yes, And we found out.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
Yes, we did not find out. I think I actually
on that one, he was like, you might be right
about this.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
You want yeah, complacency want, yes, but.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
We will hopefully we we should just get it checked out. Honestly,
looking at it now, I'm like, you probably should just
take a look.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
The gunkles say check it out. That it reminds me
of this other joke you have about your mom, like
talking about like getting you getting blood transfusion when you
were an infant at a time when kids were getting
aids from Yes, the transfusion, yes, and you being like,
well did I have it? And then she's like, well,
we never got a check because it would have ruined

(12:35):
your social.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
Life right in first grade. I'm like, literally first grade
I think she was like, you could have.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
You could have.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
We just never found out. And the doctor said it
would be bad for your social life. I was like, no,
he didn't the wasp doctor. Yeah, it was like absolutely not.
And it's funny too because my mom, like the Pokemon
evolution of my mother is like going from like Republican
wife to like real divorcee who like paints in Maine. Yes,

(13:05):
and she she is now very liberal in a way
that you're kind of like, Okay, you're overshooting.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
She's overshooting.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
Yes, you know, she's painting a Ukrainian flag in her
in her garage, and she's like, look at this, look
at what I did with a big sunflower in the
middle of it. You're like, cool, you are dis rediscovery good. Yeah, no,
that's good for you, you know.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
But then, does do you feel her brain in your
head and in this moment of parenthood, I do? I
you know, that's a really good question.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
I feel like my dad's parenting had more of an
effect even though I was with my mom. So I mean,
I think the artistic side of me is all my mother,
Like she's a painter. Her whole side of the family
is like all like writers, painters, you know, photographers, and
and my sister is in the art gallery world. She

(13:59):
works and art and so I and my other sister's
a musician. So it's all like we're all very much that. Yeah.
But my dad, maybe it was like the absence of him,
right that made his presence like more of a or
maybe just genetically, I I'm that's where it comes from.

Speaker 4 (14:19):
Do you think maybe like the absence of him made
you fixate on him more and therefore like his parenting,
like was it's the searching for that or the wanting
that that makes it Like I don't know.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
I'm just like I look at it and I go
he was. He was like a fucked up guy. And
when I think about it, I'm like, he's kind of
the reason I'm funny, you know. I Like when I
think about my dad making fun of people jogging, I'm
like that, like that's my sense of human.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Was your comedic influence? Yes, yeah, yeah, they do tend
to be that. Yeah, my dad. I don't know my dad.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
I feel like we probably had similar dads my dad
Long Island.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Yeah, but it's kind of like I was listening to
the episode with Sarah when you were talking about how
he drew him asking for a bah.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
Yeah yeah, peanut, get me, I mean yeah. And all
my mom could say was I love you. It's not funny.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
Did he make him?

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Did he make you walk on his back when his
back hurt? You know what?

Speaker 4 (15:21):
You know what's crazy. I used to make people do that.
I used to make study do that. Study was walking on.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
My back all of college. And now I'm like, did
I get that from my dad? I don't think so.
My dad was just the thing of on my biceps,
I can lift you to heaven. Oh yeah, like I
did that. So it was it was a lot of
other physical stuff. And he used to we used to
play a game called Crocodile where he was a crocodile
in the bed and I was like trying. I was
like a muskrat and he would take me and throw

(15:46):
me off the bed. Oh yeah, that's the best. That's
what we do with meno. She loves that. I bet
that's fun.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
Ye get thrown Yeah, it's really fun.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
She really loves it.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
She doesn't do herself now where we'll like grab her,
we'll throw her into the bed and then we'll say
boom while she does it. So then she'll climb up
on the bed and she'll just fall into the pillows and.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
Go boom boom.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
It's very lonely to see to see her do it
to herself, you.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Know what though, And the humor form, it's a humor
she's pratfall. Oh yeah, pratfall queen, big time, big time.
You've been asked a million times. But with two comedian parents,
what is what are you likelihood? Do you expect her? How?
How is she going to spit that out when she
grows up?

Speaker 3 (16:24):
You know, I have no idea. I genuinely hope for
her sake that she's not a comic, But I also
am like, I understand it's my job as a parent
to nurture whatever, to nurture whatever she wants to do,
and that is like what I intend to do. And
if she wants to do comedy, I'm gonna be like great.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
You know then also, you guys are going to be
there as comics one day watching her sets, and that's
gonna be really tough, Yeah, because you're gonna have to
go through a developmental period. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
You know what I think is I just just based
off of her personalities so far, I do think that
when she if she doesn't like it right away, she's
gonna be like.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
And I don't want to.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
So it's like, great, let's Gemini Moon, you know, try whatever,
Try a lot of different things and then see what
you like.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
By the way, I remember one of the one of
the times that we hung out at Usnel and Bowen's
dressing room, you came in and you were crowdsourcing names. Yes,
there was an era where you were like really looking
to people to because like narrowed it down.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
Yes, yeah, and I love Minno. It's like my aunt's nickname.
I feel like it's just like a cute little homage
to her.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
And yeah, it's fun to say.

Speaker 4 (17:40):
When I heard we landed there, I was like, I
don't know if that was even in the ether at
that time.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
I think I said it to you and Greta.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
You may have, and I think we we did have
a very positive yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
Because we were. But we were going back and forth
about the middle name. If you have Minno, then what's
the middle name, because I was like, what about like Penelope?
And then we were like that's a little Wes Anderson, Yes,
now like Penelope, Yeah, yes, wait, what is the middle name?
It's Baker.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
Oh my god, so I just made it Baker.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
Oh that rocks. Yeah, hands right.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
It feels it kind of feels like Darling. It feels
a little bit like it could be that or it's
like a Welterweight from like the nineteen fifties.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Not heavy, not like we Meno be Hanes. Yeah, is
the Welterweight? Incredible author? I feel right, that's important feminist work. Yes, producer,
music producer. One word minnow like Willow Minno, welcome back
to c Jones. Yes, yes, Meno be Haynes, Meno be Haynes.

(18:47):
I love it. It's fun. You have my favorite. I
think my favorite. There's a lot of hard to pick
a favorite. I think my favorite currently. Joking, the special
is being a mother in New York is like being
a gay man in the fifties. You have to hang
out with people who are like you and it has
to be in the park. It's like, I don't know

(19:08):
how anyone does it here. I really don't.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yeah, you can't go to restaurants.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
You can't go to restaurants, and people talk to you differently,
like people that you've known your whole life. They talk
to you differently.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
I was dying at MoMA.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
And it's not even that you are like a gay
guy too, because we're all calling each other mom mouse.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
Yeah, and the whole time you're judging each other, you're
totally judging each other.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
And how do you do it?

Speaker 4 (19:35):
How you like mom friends explicitly that you actually like, Yeah,
Like what are the challenges, Keavin?

Speaker 3 (19:40):
I have not made a single mom friend. Yeah, I
mean I have. I have friends who are moms that
do comedy, so like comic moms I do get along
with really well because I'm like, they get it, they understand.
But it's weird to be a stand up who's a
mom because you don't really fit in with the other moms, right,
and you don't fit in with the stand ups and

(20:03):
you're just kind of like, so stand up comics who
are moms or parents you kind of understand because you
really are living like a severed life.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
It's weird to do, yes, you know what I mean. Yeah,
And you've got a crazy job and it's like, I know.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
Andy went to a party last night for the first time.
He like went to paintball with like a bunch of
his friends and he came and it felt like something
like awoke in him. He was like, he goes, I don't.
I don't think I realized how isolating this is. And
I was like, yeah, he goes, that was the most
fun I've had in years.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
And I was like, paintball.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
Okay, whatever, whatever floats your boat, babe, should we.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Should we go bowling or something? We should go to
paint paint and said now I'm literally now I'm gonna
actually fixate on paintballing. I went paintballing one and it
was for a straight guy's bachelor party. And you had
a blast and I had the best time ever. That
was a straight guy's bachelorette. Yeah, literally, and it was
it was like a lot of gay guys. Who was
one of those New York theater straight guys who has

(21:08):
a lot of gay friends. So it was like Me, Dave,
our friend Ryan, et cetera, like all getting was this luke.
Yes it was, and it was we were all getting
shot at by straight men.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
But it was like, I've dated so many of those
like theater straight guys. It's actually embarrassing the personality of
like a New York cop.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
You're like, what that?

Speaker 3 (21:28):
Well, me and Andy were talking about it like every
like New York actor who's like a straight man.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Okay, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
They all have like a bandana as a bracelet, and
they'll be like, yeah, I'm an actor and they've got
like a fucking leather jacket on, and they have this
energy like they throw a cigarette and they fucking spin
on it.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
You know what it is. I completely know what it is.
Like three people. Yeah, damn, you're.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
Like that, and you just want to be like, you
know you're not act a cop?

Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yeah you yet. Yes, I know you're.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
Living like a blue collar life as an actor kind of,
but like your hands are soft, right.

Speaker 4 (22:10):
I also think like those guys go through phases too,
because in college that's when they're the worst because they
get so much action. Like these girls are so starved
because it's mostly gay guys and like other other girls.
And also they're in these programs where they're competing with
each other anyway. Yeah, so it's already they're in the
mindset of like only so many of us can get

(22:30):
a rolls and b fucked. Yes, So it's and those
guys are absolutely spoiled for choice, yes, and they it's
it's a different kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
They they do grow up and all everyone we've talked
about has grown up, Yes, but they do in college
have to send out those signals among their classmates to
be like, I'm not gay by the way.

Speaker 5 (22:49):
Yes, yes, it's just just a subtle signal walk down
the street yelling I'm not gay by the way.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
I can't the number of guys that I've dated with,
like Fedoras, and you know, it was really a rough
time where I wanted. I wanted to be in a
relationship with another artist because I feel like they get it,
you know, they get the life that you're living. Yeah,
but the actors, honey, I.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Just it's a little too Yeah. The only word is emo.
How did you meet Andy meet?

Speaker 3 (23:32):
We met at a matchless bar, matchless like years ago.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
And were you ever thinking like it'll be another comedian,
like straight up stand up comedian or were you kind of.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
Like I did not know who it would be. I
was just like I had gotten out of a relationship
with a comic. Yeah, and when I met Andy, I
was like still with this other comic by the way,
And then like never really even saw Andy until like
after that, And I remember like meeting Anne and seeing
him and him being like a very awkward human being.

(24:04):
And he told me like we had talked for the
first time in the day to each other, and he
was like, I just I pretend he goes sometimes. I like,
I feel like I'm pretending to be a human being.
And I was like, you said that, yeah, yeah, and
he was like he said the whole thing about how
he like talks to himself. He'll be like good blinking andy,

(24:26):
you know, while he's talking to someone. And so I
immediately liked him, but not in a way where I
was like, oh, I gotta get fucked, you know.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
What I mean, I gotta get this guy who thinks
about he's gonna absolutely give it every which split me
in not know, but also you know, not like to
of yes, Mama.

Speaker 6 (24:48):
Yeah, so yes mama.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
So he I guess I just thought like, no, it's
not gonna be him, and I did. I called up
Sydney Washington after I realized I had a crush on
him no, to be like, do you think I'm okay?
Do you think I'm doing all right? And because he
was so outside of Yeah, he's so outside of like
my type and my what I was like looking for that,

(25:19):
I was like do you think.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
I'm I'm everything? Okay up here?

Speaker 3 (25:23):
How have I sounded to you? You know? And she
was like, oh, this is really out of left field,
but she goes but it makes sense in a weird way,
and I was like, that's how I feel. And so
we went on a few dates and then I knew
I wanted to get married, so I said to him,
you know, not necessarily to him. I just knew I
wanted to be married too. So I was like, hey,

(25:44):
sad news for you. I want to get married. So
if you don't want to get married, we should just
start fucking other people. And he was like, well, I
don't want to do that. I don't want to I
don't want.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
To fuck other people.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
And so he was like, I'll get married, you know,
and I was like, you know, not to me necessarily.
It was a weird conversation to have because you're not
telling someone like you got to marry me.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Yeah, you just have to be like, this is.

Speaker 4 (26:09):
What I want to see my cards on the table,
here's what I see right, and not even see for
my future.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
This is what I'm like planning for. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
So, and at the time did not want kids, just
really wanted to be like married and fun. I just
love like a fun married couple travel, travel, and they're
like they make each other laugh. I really wanted that life.
I was like, that looks so fun. And so it
was literally nine months later that he proposed. So you
know we're both drug addicts.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Yeah, we remember when we got him in Montreal. Yes
he was flight back.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
He knew we were talking to you the entire time
about geography.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
No, but yes, he's a map guy.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
Yeah, he's a real map guy. Wait, what he loves
He loves to talk about. Tell him where you're from.
He will bring up at least three landmarks in your home. Wow,
he's like, he really is autist. I was going to say,
is that is that we've never gotten him tested? But
I'm I'm pretty positive, like based on everything that I've
read and know about autism that my husband for sure

(27:11):
hasn't on some you know he's on that spectrum.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Yeah, totally for sure.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
Because it's crazy. I mean the way just watching Jeopardy
next to him, I'm like, well, why aren't you on this?

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Should go on it? He should? I know.

Speaker 4 (27:23):
Let me tell you, like the I've been on the
celebrity Jeopardy and did well once I figured out what
how do you do it? Like the clicking of the
buzzer that's the hardest part. Oh really, yes, as long
as you get that down, he could win.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
Okay, he could win. I played other idiots like me.
I just think it's a cool thing.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
Even if we watch even I swear to God, even
if you put him on Celebrity Jeopardy. He knows every
like side character, actor's name, yeah, and you know where.
You're like, how do you even know this? And he's like,
it's one of the most famous actors in Britain and
you're like, no, he's not.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
No, he's not. I wonder if who it is now,
I wonder who it is. It could be he says
it about everyone. Yeah. How much of it do you absorb?
Do you do you find that you learn things from him?

Speaker 3 (28:07):
Or are you like I absorber none of it? Like
I wish I absorbed some of it. It would be
amazing if I absorb some of it. But it all
just goes.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
Like like there are people just that are just like that.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
I'm I can't. Yeah, I don't know about you. You
work at a smell so you can't remember anything.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Right, My brain is fucking yeah, and.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
You're in entertainment so and also a pisce, so I
assume your memory is kind of shitty.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
My memory is well good actually no, no, no, it's
well okay.

Speaker 4 (28:34):
My long term memory is excellent. My short term memory
is getting worse all the time, and I think it's
I actually started to freak myself out because I think
it's about marijuana.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
I also, like all my grandparents have you know, dementia,
struggled and met their demise to some sort of like
that type of thing. Oh so I'm now I just
turned thirty five. I'm now in that phase of like, okay,
so at what point is something coming for me?

Speaker 3 (28:57):
Right?

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Right?

Speaker 4 (28:58):
We were saying it's like algorithmically death really decides at
like thirty four to thirty five that you're seeing like
panicky like.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
The middle aged stuff. Yes, it's it's yes, it happens.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
I was thinking about you the other day, like, no,
because you're thirty four still, but just wait, things change
on the day.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
It gets way worse in your late thirties.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Just FYI, what's coming up.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
In the arm I'm getting just pajamas, Yeah, just just pajamas. No,
it's like well you don't work, right, They're like, you're retired.
It's pajamas.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
So then that's that makes me feel great because the
algorithm is still stupid and it doesn't know who you are.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
But that's also given the number of things I've filtered
out because they were literally offensive. Yeah, you know, so
it's like pajamas and.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
Memory care facilities for you and all caps.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Yeah, yeah, they're like a place for mom. You're like,
what place forty?

Speaker 4 (29:53):
Yeah, you know, it's gonna get even worse even now,
as we said here with our phones on the table,
because they're currently listening. This is the most fucked up
thing that ever Happenedlast night. I met dinner after the
show and I literally said, what do you guys thinking
about deviled eggs? Like getting them for the table to share? No,
I flip up in my phone. It's like deviled eggs.
It's like the algorithm was like, just wanted to talk

(30:14):
about deviled eggs. Yeah, And I'm like, this is too
specific to not be you literally monitoring me at all
times when my phone is like not in act of use.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
It's yeah, well.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
You can hear ordered deviled eggs? Is I thought it
was going to be for a senior home.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
I thought it was going to be your interest, changing
circumstances for the table, a place for Dad, a place
for gun Cal, place for Gonk. Do we like to
start this now and plan out like an assisted living
facility for like Brooklyn Commedi.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
I mean we should, there should be something, but I'm
scared because I'm like, what could be worse than a
nursing home. A nursing home for Canadians.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Oh god, yeah, just desperately trying out your like new stuff.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
Yes, just or like doing bits like people are on
when they're in their.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Eighties, Like doing a bit that you're choking, but you
are you are, like doing a bit that you forget.
It's like something but you do. You have Wait.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
That is my biggest fear when I'm on stage. I've
had panic attacks about that of work. I have panic
attacks while I'm on stage about what if I had
a seizure right now, They'd all think I was doing
an acting.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
She's amazing, She's so physical.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
And I'm like, I've never been physical in my act
in my whole life. I don't know why I think this,
but for some reason, in my mind, they are all
going to think I'm like Pablo Francisco and I'm just
doing a full like like I've had full panic attacks
where I don't remember the entire set. So I'm just
like by wrote, memorizing saying it out loud. Yeah, but
in my mind going if I had a seizure right now,

(31:51):
they'd all laugh.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
They'd all be laughing. That that's crossed my mind before. Everybody.
If you see rosebud Baker live and she seizes on stage,
it's not an act out. It's not the hospital. She's
suddenly a physical comedian.

Speaker 7 (32:04):
Something, a seizure something.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
The police. Andy, you'll be there, He'll call the police.
If it was up to you, you'd be like, I'm fine.
Andy's calling the pediatricians to come down, Like this.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
Is actually about my wife, but I don't have the
doctor's number. Yeah, it's a terrifying thing to imagine.

Speaker 4 (32:24):
Yeah, I mean, but the great thing though, is like
I mean, as I was watching the special, I was
thinking about it, I was like to have like that
family unit in place that's kind of like, this is
like weird to say, but it does, like you have
people that are gonna look after you forever. And sometimes
I think about that like it sounds weird to say,
and like we all have it in some regard because
like community has been so important in how we develop

(32:45):
and stuff. But like for like queer people, like that
is really important to have, like your chosen family, et cetera,
because like I need to know who's gonna check.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
Me into the facility? Yeah, me, me, me? Or just
like end it girl, No, no, bring me out of
my senment.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
Same thing to myself. Literally yeah, by Billy, please y
unplug it. I don't want to do it.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Once we get bad news. Let's commit to that. Yeah,
I'm telling you of mice and men, that's interesting, Like.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
You want to be hugged to death?

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Yeah, kill me like he killed her, not like.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
No, kill me like the little mouse.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Yeah. And I was thinking of me until you crush me.

Speaker 4 (33:23):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, I was thinking of his
mama that he shakes, not me.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Remembering of mice and men. My long term I'm telling
you it's crack. That is good. It's a crack crack memory.
I think if you make it to the finish line,
which is check me into an assisted living facility, I've
made it to like seventy eight or whatever. God willing. Yeah, like,
that's that's the prize. Yeah, I hope not you. That's

(33:49):
that's suck. That's the last tile on the game of life,
you know what I mean? Literally?

Speaker 3 (33:54):
Yeah, but that being the prize does that has to
bum you out?

Speaker 2 (33:56):
It's such a bum But I'm saying it's nice, Like
I I don't totally disagree with what you guys are saying,
which is like just end it there. Yeah. You know
what is like absolutely you could go crazy watching it
is Gutfeld on Fox, which is like the Fox Late

(34:19):
night Show. It is the absence of comedy. There is
nothing funny happening on it, and yet the ratings are
so through the roof that you almost have to wonder.

Speaker 4 (34:30):
It's like, are people watching it because it's like they
feels like their political homework, or just because they don't
trust anything on anyone else?

Speaker 3 (34:37):
To be the thinnest premises you have ever seen, Like
it's hard to here's the problem. To write a good joke,
a premise has to be true. You have to write
a true premise. To write a true punchline, not that
the punchline is supposed to be like true actual, but
like what we would consider a punchline. Yea, I you cannot.

(35:00):
It's that job is going to be harder and harder
to do because you're trying to write jokes about premises
that are not true exactly. So I mean, as long
as everyone in that world is considering it to be true,
I guess it works.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
It must work because his ratings are so big. There's
so much bigger than any of right, And I was,
but I was telling you that the ratings is more
of a function of like it being embedded in other
news programming onpot I hear you where like Daily Show
could never get those numbers because it's on Comedy Central
and no one's like keeping Comedy Central on all day

(35:36):
and leaving it on at night. And I completely get that.
But my thing is, like, I mean, it's on, they're
hearing it, and if there's nothing to challenge the idea
that it's a not comedy and be also not true,
then it's just on and they start to believe it.
I think I'm just like really realizing more and more
that we're just in two completely different silos and there's
really nothing to be done about it.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
Yeah, there's nothing you can do if you do care
about like what is true. There are still journalists. They
do exist, you know, Like I have found that even
just at update right, we have we get a setup.
I have to turn around so often and be like, hey,
is this something I should be freaked out about? Or
is this a headline that is sounds a lot scarier

(36:18):
than it actually is. And most most often the answer
is like, you don't need to worry about this until
this and this and this happen.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
And who's telling you that? Like who.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
Imagine the beacon of truth? Just Josh Patten who studied
political science gets you know.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
Yes, yeah, we love Josh.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
He's so smart. And oftentimes whenever I'm about to like
freak out and it's hard for me to write a.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
Joke when I'm like emotionally of course, like this is crazy.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
He'll be like, ah, it's not crazy for another three months,
you know what I mean? And I'm like, okay, all right,
so I can budget the amount of like fear that
I have. But more often than not, you can like
look this stuff up. You can find out like if
it's true and if it's not right.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
But I love that patents telling you, oh, worry about
bird flu in June?

Speaker 3 (37:16):
Yes, yes, yeah, He'll be like, it's not a problem
until this happens.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
Million birds are dead, Okay, we're here. When I said June, yes, a.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
Like I was so freaked out about the flu the
flu meeting getting canceled and I was like, oh no,
no no, and he was like, if it gets canceled
in six months, then we're really in trouble.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
How do you know this because because of the major?

Speaker 3 (37:45):
Because of the major, I guess I literally just realized
that I just went because of his major.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
Yeah, but that's that's that's an answer. Yeah. He is
a very smart guy. I mean he's he's in aged
in it constantly to do.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
I'm actually fascinated by how weekend Update works, Like is
it do you guys work the same Like.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
Yeah, the same We work the same week, Like we
go in Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. Yeah, we go
in and we do like three to five pages of
jokes a day. So we just get like all these
setups and that goes out to everyone.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
I don't know really why. I don't know if anybody
I know, it's on the setups. There's a setups file
in the server m and like I'm like, we shouldn't.
I'm like, cast doesn't need access to this necessarily, not really,
but everyone does.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
Sometimes people use it, so I guess I truly speculation.
But we just write three to five pages of jokes
a day by ourselves and then turn them in and
then on Friday and Saturday we go through all of
them once, like Jost and Chay have made their picks,
we go through all of them. We tag each other's

(38:51):
jokes up, we listen to them, We listen to the
jokes that were picked back and based off of like
the reaction or the way that they feel saying them,
it's like they kind of narrow it down from that
for Saturday. And then Pete has like such a hard
job because Pete has to like make sure that the
show has different topics, that it's covering a widespread and

(39:14):
that things haven't been just blasted out already, that they're
not telling jokes that have already been told. Michaelbert, Yeah,
so I his job is so hard.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
Yeah, I always think about his job. Peach Schultz, also
one of the Kings of Update, Yes, has to like
really keep his ear to the ground. Yeah, that like it's.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
Hard, Yeah, and keep both hosts happy making sure that
they're getting the jokes that they want off, you.

Speaker 4 (39:38):
Know, and then what's the interaction between I feel like
I'm like asking questions because Bowen is such a star
on Update, Like what is the interaction between people writing
their updates?

Speaker 2 (39:50):
And like the Weekend Update writing team is there.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
So well, Like when Bowen comes in, he'll pitch something
that's like, hey, I'm thinking about doing the hippo but
like kind of making it off of like mapping it
off of Chapel roone, and we're like, great, sounds done,
Like that's just such a finished piece.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Did did you check it on Tuesday or Monday? Or
Tuesday with the premise?

Speaker 3 (40:11):
Yeah, with the update TA and you come in and
you're like, this is the thing and then you go
write it right. Other times someone will come in and
they're like I want to do something that's kind of
about this, and then we'll pitch on it and will
help them and like right, And this is something that
I actually didn't understand as a sketch writer. On the

(40:32):
sketch writing side is if you go into Update and
you're like, I have this idea for a feature, it's
not completely done. You can sit down and pitch with them.
They will give you a full like we'll give you
like two to three day of job. And I don't
see it often get into the thing. Well sometimes it does,

(40:54):
but it's hard for people to understand that we're there
for that. Yeah you know what I mean, because you
just in your brain it's two different things staffs. So
you feel like you're just kind of chucking it, like
just going back and forth. I've never said chuck, chuck,
you're chucking it, really work, you're chucking it.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
We're just sitting here chucking it. We were just checking it.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
And I feel like when I say things about SNL,
I forget, I lose my grasp one.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
I'm the same. I have no idea what words are.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
Yeah, and I also don't know what's safe to say.
Like I'll say things and then I'll immediately be like,
well that's it. You want to walk into the ash
and cook. Yeah, it's over. But so we're chucking it.
I'm back to chucking it, and and you just think, oh,
that's not really they're not really pitching right, but we're
totally yeah you are.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
So there's that. I honestly need to take advantage of
that more.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
Whenever you want to chuck it, come chucking chuck it.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Just so everyone's clear.

Speaker 4 (42:01):
Boone is wearing a jewel tone legging and a beautiful
Christian bracelet. I know he's a Christians. And when he
talks about his Lent piece that he was going to yes.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
Wear ron stones on your vagina.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Jesus so too. So these are flying off. There's only three,
only three on Angel's wings. Wait a minute, that's a tattoo.
I thought you.

Speaker 4 (42:26):
I thought you were going to go on update as
like like a QVC person.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
Oh that's fun. Oh yeah, because anyone ever done that? Probably,
I mean yeah, probably thinking no one's ever done that,
will go and sell like his fake his fake problem
always a yes no. Basically, the character was a Lent
mascot named Lenny. He was in a Friar's outfit and
he was like there to like whisper sweet nothings about

(42:50):
giving up swearing and alcohol, and then he got up
to sing a song. And then when he stood up
like titty mans and cocaine and and and then and
then he would just be like I like, I'm a
monk who loves boobs. Okay. It was very much in
my voice as a boob lover. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
But anyway, did anyone pitched that you stand up and
there is no robe under the road?

Speaker 2 (43:11):
Yes? Wait, someone did top Okay, see, I gotta check
it with y'all.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
We gotta come chuck it.

Speaker 4 (43:18):
We got chuck it. Okay, I'm going to chuck it
in a different way. Now we're gonna ask you the
central question of our podcast. Okay, this is the question,
what was the culture that made you say culture was
for you? Rosebud Baker. This is that thing that hint
that culturally it hinged you.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
So I did think about this before I got here.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
Thank you for that.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
Yeah, I did. I thought about it. And because a
lot of culture I don't remember because I have blocked
out most of my life. However, I believe that dance
movies center stage being the on the oscar because because
Zoe Seldania putting a cigarette out with her point show

(43:58):
sent shivers down my spine in a way where I
was like, I can be cool.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
And a girl.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
Yeah, and like I don't know she's the one that
got on the motorcycle, but she was in my mind, yeah, yea, yeah, yeah,
she was the one that got on the motorcycle with
the with the ballerina that that drove the motorcycle. Yes,
and they had sex in his apartment with like floor
to ceiling windows. They had the same windows as the
friends apartment.

Speaker 4 (44:19):
Yeah, they did that like a completely unattainable thing that
some people in New York were living in film and
television at that time.

Speaker 5 (44:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
Yeah, And I think that just made me. That sort
of turned me on in a way that in a
theater kid kind of a way, yes, which I have
been I would say closeted about for most of my
life that I was a theater kid.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
Now is that this is why you and like Greta
get along because you can both meet each other.

Speaker 3 (44:44):
Theater kids from DC.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
Yeah. Yeah, damn, that's the common thread. Yes, two of
our greats. Mm hmm, two of our greats.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
So it was like anything that was like based in
New York City, like Rent. Obviously the musical the Zoe
Saldonna out the cigarette with her point.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
Shot image is very it's formative.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
It's so but I'm like, that was it. Yeah, that
was the moment where I was.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
Like, I'm cool, Yeah, I'm gonna go.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
I'm gonna go to New York and I'm gonna be
an artist in New York.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
Yeah that's fun. And I was like, have edge but
also like be driven.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
Yes, I'm gonna have edge, but I'm gonna.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
Like eat cotton balls. Yeah yeah, just off myself or
whatever soup would be two fillings. Yes, oh I can't.
I know genre I have really fallen off. I just
like we need more of them. Like the last big
ones were like step up, do you want to know what?
I think they sequalized them all too much. I can
step up two, three, four, five, ten, twenty eight. Once

(45:42):
you it just feels like a story exactly.

Speaker 4 (45:46):
I mean, like unless unless you're actually gonna like really
make them different and change them. I feel like, honestly,
they got overfranch So I think.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
That if you follow the arc of any dancer and
their their career is gonna end way before five movies.
You gotta you can't. Nobody wants to see a dancer
after retirement.

Speaker 4 (46:05):
Not only just because I guess your body changes and
gives not gives up, but like is not able.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
To wash your body's washed after two years in Vegas
hoofing it for Jade to the Low.

Speaker 4 (46:19):
Also, like the lifestyle, the lifestyle. I guess also was
like we can't keep doing this. Yeah, I can't keep
wearing a flat rim hat and doing get right.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
No you can't. You don't kill yourself? Yeah, I mean,
like where is our generation? This generation's like flash dance,
show girls, dirty dancing like dance. Is that what you're
talking about when I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
Those dance where people were having like they were in
high school and they were dancing up against each other.
They were like they were on teams, they were fighting
each other with dance. It was like it was our
west Side Story, Like.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
They literally did West Side Story. But I don't know
what it was that it just didn't hit the culture
because it was good. But the thing is, like, you
know where those dance moments popped out, which they haven't
really done in a few years. Are those live musicals
that they did, like the Grease live musical that they
did one that was exactly what like Julian Huff was
like made to And I'm like, why isn't she the

(47:19):
huge like like old Hollywood star of these types of movies.
Is because they don't make them anymore.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
Yeah, I think that people have gotten to this is
just a theory. But I think we've gotten too invested
in the villain running the story. We all love the
anti hero, you know, and I think we all sort
of leaned into the anti hero with Tony Soprano and
breaking bad, and all of a sudden we were like

(47:44):
a dancer who wants to make something of herself, like,
you know, it just didn't. I think we all have
just leaned too far into that, so much so that
we oops made one the president. I'm like, let's just
get back to like fun dance movies.

Speaker 4 (48:02):
I think that it actually speaks to like my I
don't think so, honey from from the other week, which
was I need to see animated movies Disney whatever for
kids where the villains die really bad deaths. Yes, because
they used to do it all the time, and they
got afraid because it's not just anti heroes that were
obsessed with, also protagonists who are complicated and the actual

(48:25):
the villain is what's inside. It's her insecurity, right, It's
the fact that she has a weird identity she hasn't
come to grips with.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
That's the villain of the story.

Speaker 4 (48:33):
It's like, no, give me a fucking one eyed, total bitch.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
Yes, coming in here.

Speaker 4 (48:39):
Who wants to kill tk TK It was puppies for
Correl Deville. They would never do that, would never do that.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
There would never be a woman dressed in the animals
she killed anymore, not for kids. We've had too much
like these are if these are the three stories, man
versus Nature, man versus man, man verse himself, we've had
too much man versus himselves, man versus himself.

Speaker 4 (49:00):
No, we need to fear the villains of the world
because they're out there.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
Man versus the algorithm. That is the fourth one gap.
This is the this is the new dance movie that
we're all gonna write. It's it's the TikTok dance movie.
It's people at a high school. They're all competing for
TikTok dances or something some bullshit like that, and then

(49:27):
they find out the real villain is the algorithm or something.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
I love that or the guy running the TikTok cult
that they're in.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
Yeah, but here's the thing we need to reveal in
the movie that the algorithm actually.

Speaker 4 (49:38):
Is a person with one eye dressed in all dogs.
He's a killer, like and we have to watch him
push pushed into lava.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
But it's not enough.

Speaker 4 (49:47):
He's like coming out of the lava and like crocodiles
who can swim in lava? Rip him apart and we
watch it.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
He but first he comes out of the lava with
the dog. With the dog cos he's wearing a crocodile.
He's he's in the mouth and he's like.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
Guess what I'm wearing this too.

Speaker 4 (50:02):
It needs to be a four minute death scene like
what we did to Mikey Madison and Once upon a
Time in Hollywood, Like she didn't deserve that. Some of
these villains deserve. Not well, actually she was in the
Manson family. She did deserve, yes, and she was. She
was also a ghost face.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
She got stabbed in the eye and Mikey Madison has
burnt to death in two out of I guess her
three films, Face and spent a time. Yeah, can I be.

Speaker 3 (50:24):
Honest, I did not watch all of Once upon a Time.
I do like certain scenes from it, but mainly I
just remember Brad Pitt on a roof because I take
a photo of the.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Screen in the movie. The man looks good in a
lot of positions.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
But I was alone in the movie theater. It's not
okay to I was literally.

Speaker 4 (50:42):
Like in the movie theater, my phone is out, I'm
not watching.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
I shouldn't have come, Like I'm telling you, like it's
for sure, like it's really bad.

Speaker 4 (50:52):
Sometimes I'll pick the movie that I know no one
is going to be there for just so I can
go to text in a dark room.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
That's I don't know what that you know.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
I used to do that when I was having a
really bad day. I would get a carry karaoke room
by myself.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
Oh, by myself. That's amazing. What chucking it on?

Speaker 3 (51:10):
Just chucking it to like the hardest ones, you know,
just like trying to melt out a Whitney Houston.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
Just give it a shot, so vocally push yourself. It
wasn't a place where you could like, you know, rap hard.
It wasn't like whatever it was about pushing yourself vocally.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
Yes, it was like I just want to I don't
feel my uh my sponsor, my therapist, like there's a
lot of there's a team. Yeah, there's the care team.
My my therapist sponsor. He was like, you need to
like yell in a pillow every once in a while.
That's good because I was telling him how much I
related to Walton Goggins in this notice and he was like, yeah,

(51:46):
you should probably like yell into a pillow about that,
and but like, I don't feel comfortable yelling into a
pillow because it's insane. So if I go into a
karaoke booth by myself, also insane but fun, but no.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
And also so much of why it exists. Yeah, have
you ever booked one of those rooms? I think they
still have them in New York where it's just like
old printers and TVs and then you have you take
a job camera and you just like it's like you
office space. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
I've seen a lot of people do that, and I
wanted to do it so badly, but I was pregnant
at the time, and I was like, this is when
I actually need this and it's not safe.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
And it's not safe. Now if you would like, let's
all go, let's do it, I think all of us
and I should go yes.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
Yes, oh my god, yes, you.

Speaker 4 (52:27):
Know what I mean, maybe like while they go to
the host dinner or something like you guys just go
skip out on a Tuesday, just take an hour and
a half to go like.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
Yes, like truly hammered down on these things. It helps
it really does.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
It would almost like I'll watch that story about Larry
David like yelling at Dick Eversol.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
I'll just watch that when I'm in just the story, just.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
The story, and I'll just you know, of him just
yelling and saying this and everybody watching and then him
storming out and then I just like stop it. I
don't even watch the how he showed back up on Monday.
I'll just be like, yeah, good for you, you know,
when I'm in a mood.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
Oh yeah. But it actually is a thing. I've never
really thought about channeling my anger in that way. I
know those rooms exist. It was like a couple weeks ago,
I was I was working out and the guy who
trains me, when we were doing this thing where like
he would throw a ball to me and I would
twist and throw the ball back and I had to
throw it as hard as I could. Yeah, And all
of a sudden, I was like, Wow, this is like
the best and most alive. I felt so literally yesterday

(53:25):
in the shower. Do you know what I thought? I
was like, what if I just went and tried like boxing,
Oh not with another person, just literally just like hitting
a bag, like I actually think I could get into
that because I didn't understand. And one of the things
I've actually realized in my own therapy over the past
few years, and I think we share this is like,
actually how much anger I have about something? Oh my god?

(53:45):
And it's really very useful in like a in like.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
A what happened with your voice when you said really.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
No, really no, no, I'm telling you. Yeah. He even
said something about it. The trainer.

Speaker 4 (53:57):
He was like, oh, wow, like you have some aggression
and I was like, yeah, I think it's really becoming
apparent right now. But I thought to myself, like, what
if I go sco punched something in a productive way?

Speaker 3 (54:08):
But I do think it's a slippery slope boxing by
MMA to Rogan.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
You don't you don't see me going mm a Rogan though.

Speaker 3 (54:16):
No, But I sometimes I wonder if they if the
two literally are if it's unavoidable, like no matter who
you are starting out, I worry.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
Yeah, if one day we'll all end up at just
different different eras at MMA.

Speaker 3 (54:29):
It would be so funny if you started boxing and
within a year you were like straight living.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
As a slur. It went from Hay in the park
to Ura faggot in a real way living in Austin.
What's then anything possible? Spinning? Why is that the way
that I think that's the most masculine thing, which it is.
We're not disagreeing with you, What is wrong with me?

Speaker 3 (55:00):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (55:00):
Spin on it? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (55:02):
I really ato like I think it's Zoe Saldana.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
But did Yeah, so then when you moved to New York,
did that feeling washed over you of like I'm Zoe?
It definitely washed.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
Obviously at some point I was like I am Zoe,
but more so than I was like an amalgamation of
these characters where it's like which is hilarious because I
was just like twenty with a drinking problem. But I
did feel like I was like, I'm a little bit rent,
I'm a little bit center stage, I'm a little bit
sex in the city, I'm a little bit of friends.
I thought it was all of those things. Yeah, and

(55:34):
truth be told, I was none of those things. I
lived in a railroad in green Point, the worst part
of green Point with my ex and his metal band.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
Oh boy, so they were actually living there.

Speaker 3 (55:45):
They were living there, they were rehearsing that they were Yeah,
it was It was tough because I do hate. I
hated their music, but I do hate metal in general.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
But their music, and uh, are you honest about that?

Speaker 3 (56:03):
I wasn't because I truth be told it was that
or rehab. So I was like, I have to I'm
like he he like promised my family he would take
care of me because I was supposed to go to rehab.
And I sort of like, did I bamboozled?

Speaker 2 (56:16):
Wow? And it's worth it? Yeah.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
No, I definitely took my parents' money and I was
I told them I would buy a ticket to DC
to go to rehabit instead, I stopped off in New
York and I got off the plane and I moved.
I moved in with X and his medal.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
I had to know this about you. That is that
is the rosebud Baker story. So insane.

Speaker 4 (56:38):
Very ZOEA very very Zoe, literally the energy of ballerina slipwear.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
Yeah, very Zoe, but bloated an alcoholic U huh and
had not moved a muscle in terms of dance.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
Yeah, everybody who moved to New York. It doesn't matter
who you are. There's some piece of media and whatever.
I'm not saying anything new but that like you just
are fantasizing about or you think you're living. Yeah, for guys,
it's like, I don't know, taxi driver or something. Maybe
I don't know. I will say that is that.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
Is a theater guy. That is a theater straight guys
version of a New York City Right.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
And then for like women and gay guys, it's sex
and the sexy. Yes. But then so girls hit when
we were like at the end of college, like Slash
getting out of college, and we were like, oh wow,
this is like the literal version of what it is. Yes,
the green Point metal band is very girl, very Yes.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
I was actually Hannah, you were yeah, Yeah, Wow, I
was Hannah having terrible sex in an apartment with a
boyfriend that was building things.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
Yeah, for no reason.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
I'm like, there's nothing to be built. It's a rental.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
I can't get over that.

Speaker 4 (57:48):
Adam Driver went from playing the weirdest fuck boy in
Brooklyn to Kylo.

Speaker 3 (57:53):
Ren And you know what's even weirder is that he
was hotter to me as the weirdest one a thousand Right.

Speaker 4 (58:00):
I think that that was the That was honestly one
of the top three things that made that show successful. Yeah,
was the Yes, just how reasonable it was that this
was the hottest guy all around to end up weird.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
Do I have like lipstick like caking?

Speaker 2 (58:18):
Nope? Okay, good, perfect?

Speaker 4 (58:19):
But what is it lately about? I feel the same
way my lips have been, Like I'm so conscious of
my lips lately.

Speaker 3 (58:24):
No, I know, because if gross slip is really something
that you live with, like there's nothing breath.

Speaker 4 (58:31):
No, gross slip is worse than bad breath. It's rule
culture number nineteen. Gross slip is worse than a bad breath.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
Yeah, I guess. So mine just chraps the same spot
and I peel from the same spot, cons mine gets
merely in the corners. I'm really really sorry that was discussing.
I feel the need to like turn to everyone here
and say I'm so sorry.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
No, I'm because that's what I'm worried about right now.

Speaker 4 (58:55):
I wasn't thinking about it until you said it, and
now I'm self conscious about it. But let's just live
in this together.

Speaker 3 (59:00):
And if you have Matt, like mac lipstick is like
it's great for stage or whatever, but it does it
just cake? You're like, oh damn, I don't want to
have a cake on my lip. Anyway, we were talking
about Adam Driver being hot.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
Well, I mean, and also it's funny that you say
they were having bad sex, because I remember this must
have just been my my acceptual experience at the time.
But I was like, is what they're doing really hot?
Because remember when he because he dated it started dating
Schery Apple be in the show and then he like
made her crawl around on the floor and he like
came on her tits and she was like I don't
like this, yes, And I was like, oh, he has

(59:33):
that weird sex that he loves with Hannah yea. And
I hadn't even I guess that was like why the
show was so great character to point out that it
was label it as weird. No, it was just like
it was. I guess what I was latching onto was
I was like, there's really different modes of this. There's
no such thing as like good sex and bad sex.
It's like your sex is your sex, and this guy
his weird stuff like works for her.

Speaker 4 (59:56):
Like I was never worried for her, right, It just
seemed like she was in a position where they were
figuring it out sexually. But I was never worried for
Hannah right.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
No. Ever, I felt like it was.

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
It was odd to me because I was like, oh,
this is a guy who genuinely loves her, wants to
care for her once, like just loves her. Yeah, and
for some reason it's like sexually he's like into this shit,
you know. And she kind of always seemed a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
Like I guess yeah, you know, and that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
Yeah, because I always felt like Hannah was going like
that sure, you know. It was always she literally would
like shrug her shoulders as consent and then they'd be
like yeah, cool.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
But it was that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
I mean, that's why I got to say, like when
I was watching girls and then I think it was
like me too. A few years after that, yeah, and
I was like rewatching it and I was like, well,
this is half of my sexual experience right as like
as just a person that grew up.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
When I did.

Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
Yeah, so I'm like so just everything. I literally called
my therapist. I was like, I actually just don't have
the bandwidth for this.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Yeah, like I said, no, I said that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
I was like, I don't have the bandwidth to break
all this down. I'm just gonna kind of push this down.

Speaker 4 (01:01:10):
Yeah, And he was like okay, Wow, it's like what
were we okay with and what were we just like, oh,
I guess this is what sex is, Like, I'll submit
to whatever this is, despite the fact that like because
I guess what it was for me is I was like, well,
this person that I'm having sex with can't have like
like a real relationship with sex and away I don't
like a proclivity towards this thing he wants to do.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
I guess we're just both figuring out and it must
be fine. Yeah, And then yeah, Wow, I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:01:34):
Like, sometimes you meet somebody and you're like, well, I
was never into this before, but I guess I kind
of am with you, like you know, you never know.
And then you're like, it's just it's sort of a
mystery that I'm going to leave unsolved.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Yeah, yeah, you know. But like that show kind of
portrayed it in a way that I think we probably
hadn't seen before. Absolutely what I mean absolutely in a
serialized way, like, oh, you can track like the sex
that Adam was having with this character is not the
same the sex he was happing with Hannah, and therefore
that is, yes, this weird sort of questionable. Yeah whatever,

(01:02:06):
they definitely need didn't do that in Sex and the City.
It was always like fun.

Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
I know, the sex scenes in Sex and City. When
you rewatch them back, you're.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
Like, no, it's like that's he that's not even that.
It doesn't even look right. No, it wasn't even stage.
But like all this Samantha stuff is just like, yeah,
I don't know. What I loved about girls was like
it never made an attempt almost ever make it to
make sex look hot. Yes, it was always weird.

Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
It was ridiculous, absurd yeah, and clanky.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:02:38):
And like that was the whole thing with Adam and
Jess too, right, Like the first time they fucked it
was terrible, and they were so positive it would be good,
and then it eventually does get good and they get
on the same page. But like those two characters having
bad sex was so it was such a mulk moment
in that choke.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Yeah, they were, they were. They were chucking it about that.
That's what it is. It's not hey, mama, it with
mama choking it with mama chucking it with mama, My,
that's the winner. Like what's this going to be?

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
They're chucking it, They're chucking a little out, We're chucking it,
We're clanking it. I think I said clanking a second ago. Yeah,
I was talking about the sex in girls. I said clank, yeah,
which it does actually work.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
It's clinking. It's very Judy Garland meet me in Saint Louis.

Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
Yeah, clank clan clan clan Clanka. Scarecrow meets tin Man.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
Yeah, imagine if they fun to be terrible. Watch watch
the Scarecrow and the tin Man. Yeah, I want to
click the link. Yeah, I'd click the link whenever. Whenever
he sees two hot guys and a picture together goes,
I'd click the legs. Actually, that's that is so this?
Oh god, I click click the link. He said, it's

(01:03:56):
about a picture of me and someone else other day
clicking my.

Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
Not me responding to a picture of the baby with
that later today, cick the link.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
Oh my god, Like, no, that's not how you do it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:10):
I was watching Denise Richards has a new reality show
on Bravo. It's like Denise Richard's like, yeah, not on Housewives.
But and she was talking about like her daughter joined
only fans. Yes, she kind of couldn't really say anything
because like she had Hollywood and was doing like wild things,
et cetera. And they have an brought it up right,
and so, yes and so. But now on the show
it's like they're explaining it more. And the daughter Sammy

(01:04:35):
was like, well, it would have been fine had you
not joined right after, because Denise was like, well, then
I joined only fans because I didn't want my daughter
doing it alone, like I want her to feel like.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
Empowered about Denise Denise.

Speaker 4 (01:04:46):
And then and then the daughter was like, do you
know how embarrassing it is for me to have to
explain to my friends, like why you're not only fans?
And it's just so funny that coachly that's where we're at, Like, Mom,
I do porn.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
Porn is my thing. You do porn by myself. Mom,
why do you always have to do porn after me?
I know I was doing porn for years before you,
But I understand why you're upset. Honey. Okay, I do
need to watch this show. It's I actually I tell
you that all them.

Speaker 4 (01:05:11):
I was like, I just want to say, I just
want to knock on the door and say Denise Richards
is giving something on the.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
On peacock.

Speaker 3 (01:05:21):
I clicked the link.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
Yeah, any housewife thoughts you want to get off your chest? Yeah,
what's up? So many?

Speaker 3 (01:05:26):
I have so many I feel like I'm really I've
never loved Sutton.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
We're having a hard time. You're loving her.

Speaker 3 (01:05:34):
I've no, no, no, I never loved her. But now
I am like, you are an evil, evil person.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
She's the villain very least, she's just broken, you know
what I mean. But I'm generous. But yes, I've said
evil too in the past.

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
Yes, I just watching her sit across from Dery and
do this.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
Oh the wallet thing really bothered me.

Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
Like with the eyes, I was like, calm down, you
look like Ramona.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 4 (01:06:01):
It was giving Romona a bit as Also if the
insult was about like wealth in a way that was
like a trackable or actually funny, that would be one thing.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
But it's like you need to fight with someone who's
wallet fits. It's like, well, while it doesn't fit, the
promise has to be true.

Speaker 3 (01:06:16):
Yeah, the premise has to be true.

Speaker 4 (01:06:17):
And I'm just like and then like it was so
easy to dunk on her because the rest of the
women were just like, like Kyle said in the after show,
she was like, well, then we have to talk about
where you actually got your money, which is from a divorce,
right period.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
Thank you, Like, so that's just it. And I was like,
do you feel this backed into a corner or are
you just that mean? Because I think she is that mean.

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
Yeah, I think she is that mean because she's never
been backed into a corner once. I bet I've seen.
I'm like, except somebody maybe said something about her drinking,
but it's like, hello, that's the job.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
Yeah. But also there were things to say about her drinking.

Speaker 3 (01:06:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
I remember the show one time they saw they showed
her pouring like a huge cocktail in the middle of
the day and on the bottom hand of the corner
bottom thing, it's set eleven forty am. It was like
the show was pointed to show.

Speaker 3 (01:07:03):
You're like, Okay, well, maybe don't do that on camera
or if.

Speaker 4 (01:07:08):
You're gonna yeah, exactly, if you're gonna do it on camera,
expect that one of your castmates whose job it is
to say something like this, may say something.

Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
And the whole show, the whole premise of the show
and the lot. And this is why the logic of
it gets so depressing if you really like start to
think about it, Yeah, is like you are putting your
life out there, yes, and you're gonna get torn apart.

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
And that's kind of what we do with housewives. It's
fun to do.

Speaker 3 (01:07:31):
We feel better about ourselves doing.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
And it's fucked up, but it's it's sort.

Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
Of the last like dark disgusting habit I think of
like this part of culture. Yeah, it's like it's listen,
let's enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
Well at last, it's WWF for women and gays. Yes, absolutely,
And I will say when I did, because I have
publicly spoken against Bronwyn on Salt Lake and then I
met her from only at the SAG Awards, and then
we had this lovely moment and I explained myself and
I apologized for all these terrible things that I had said.

(01:08:07):
I said, you are ultimately a fantastic mother. She like
shows up to all these rallies where she's supporting her
trans kit. Yeah, and then and then she goes bow in.
I can take it. This is what I signed up for.
I love you no matter what you say. And I'm like, oh,
that's actually such as transcendent attitude about it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:24):
That's what I love about bron Wins. That is what
I love about her. I kind of that was the vibe.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
At least.

Speaker 3 (01:08:28):
I was like, I feel like it's the same vibe
off camera, yeah, you know, whereas sudden it's I'm getting
it's doctor Jack.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
You know, I feel like.

Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
I'm really loving to read this season. I'm loving her
kind of like snapping back and getting mad and just
I'm just enjoying that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
Yeah, it's because it's real. It's real. That's ultimately what
it is. Is like the authenticity is kind of it's
like she does she has no more fucks to give
because it's kind of like, you know, this this job
now the Housewives is now like you know, she doesn't
have to like think about like what her husband's gonna
think or like pretend at all. She's like, oh, this

(01:09:10):
is the place where I can be in my mouse authentic.
Now it's not, but I don't have to wait to
fight with my husband behind closed doors. Okay, great, then
I'll just say what I feel yeah, and.

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
She'll be like, hey, little peanut, anyway, she's a cunt. Yeah.
Like I love that she's like she's like a good mom.
She's sweet to her kids. I love the way she
talks to her children. I was never talked to like that.
I mean my mom was like very sweet and loving
and kind, but she didn't call us like little peanuts
and like the little nicknames that Yes, Jackie, Yes, she

(01:09:44):
just has like the cutest little nicknames for them. But
I just think that's really sweet. But I mean, who know,
they'll probably grow up to a resenter for it's well, if.

Speaker 4 (01:09:55):
It's not that, it's definitely the show at large. Right,
Oh you Oh, I was a television star at what age?

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
And I didn't know?

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
Uh? Did you guys watch Potomac? Yeszy Rush is so funny.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
And I want to say I believe her. I believe
her too, really, yeah, thank you for saying this. I
believe her because TJ has clearly showed himself to be
like a bad person.

Speaker 3 (01:10:18):
Yeah, why would I believe this man?

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
Why would you believe him? What?

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
What about him even read as even a teensy bit believable? Right?

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
And I believe that she's like heartbroke over the fact
that like this guy who whatever it means to her
or to us her best friend, would then betray her
and go on and like and like tell the man like, oh,
she was paying me to be her boyfriend the whole time,
Like that would be a heartbreaking thing and she would
not know how to she She was probably in shock
in that moment and did not know how to explain

(01:10:46):
that because it's such a hurtful thing.

Speaker 3 (01:10:47):
No, I feel like the way that she handled it,
I was like, you guys are just making her look
more innocent.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
Yeah, still I rise and still.

Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
Was.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
But I will also say I think it's somewhere in
the middle. I think she did not offer to pay him,
but it was fake. I think the whole thing was
fake and stage whether or not, like they made it
an agreement that money would change hands. I can understand
why you guys think that's definitely didn't happen. But I

(01:11:19):
do think that they either did not know each other.
I don't even believe that they were best friends. I
believe that he was flown in because he was like
wanting to do it. He probably was, you know, two
face to her as well. Like, I just don't believe
it was real. I just think once the show is out,
he could not handle the humiliation of people being like, well,
he's clearly yeah, this whatever for the streets end for

(01:11:43):
the guys, right, and so he probably needed to retaliate
in some way, which is to embarrass her, right, And.

Speaker 3 (01:11:49):
He did it in a very may I say please homosexual.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
Well yes, by calling into the reunion.

Speaker 3 (01:11:57):
By calling into the reunion and being run me my money, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay,
now you're just stirring.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
The pod like a flavor. I recognized.

Speaker 3 (01:12:06):
Yeah, he was dropping tea, he's running more tea.

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
He was chucking it. Yeah, he was chucking it. He
actually chucked it into the reunion. And then when Eddie
got first chair, I was like, thank god, thank god,
I love Eddie. He's hot. Reunion.

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
Yes, yeah, oh yes, yes she did. What do you
guys think of I don't know why her name is. Yeah,
thank you, I gotta go, it's gotta go it.

Speaker 4 (01:12:32):
I think she probably is because the thing is like
you can't really just I mean, she literally just left,
and I know Andy hates.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
That, yeah, right, like in a punitive way, like I think.

Speaker 3 (01:12:44):
So.

Speaker 4 (01:12:44):
I also think if if it wasn't so clear that
that storyline is like circulatory, now one has run its course.
And also I do think we've seen all of her
tricks in terms of like funny things she can say, do,
et cetera.

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
Yeah, I think we can lose mia. And and also
I think I.

Speaker 3 (01:12:59):
Think she's just like a straight up villain. Yeah, Like
I think it's you see the good sides of every
housewife and you love the good sides of them as well.
With Mia, it's just getting harder and harder to understand,
like where's the yea, where's the side of you that's
really I mean walking off for her kids. If if

(01:13:20):
I were to believe that that was I think it
was partly why she walked off. I believe that, but
like walking off was like maybe the most redeemable or
she did where I'm like, okay, yeah, stand up for
get out of there if you're not. But the problem is,
I've seen so much of her behavior is like sort

(01:13:40):
of mean spirited or manipulative that now it's hard for
me to believe that when she does something redeemable it
actually is for the right reasons. Sorry to use ABC language, No, no, no, but.

Speaker 2 (01:13:53):
She Yeah, her walking off is a redeemable thing, but
she still walks off like she's like at the end
of the day, she's still is pulling away from the
whole thing in a way that you're like, well, then
you don't, then you can't, then you shouldn't be here. Yeah,
And you're in that position because you did this to
your children, Like it's like, yeah, sure you're walking off
because not my kids.

Speaker 4 (01:14:12):
But it's like, we wouldn't have it not my kids
situation had you not broken the divorce to the kids
on the on camera. Yeah, it just doesn't really math
for that to be the thing. That's like like as
if Gizelle had crossed the line. And trust me, Like,
I don't have love for Gizelle Bryant, but my thing
is like she's she's expressing her views on it, which

(01:14:34):
were a lot of the viewers, you know, positions which
was we can't really believe you when I kind.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
Of do like Gizelle, that's okay, and that's a that's
kind of an opinion.

Speaker 3 (01:14:45):
She's such and that and that, and that's an opinion,
and we're just chucking it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
We're just chucking it around. I'll chuck it with Gizelle.
I would.

Speaker 3 (01:14:52):
Here's the thing I think she is. She's a Debbie
Downer for sure, huh. But I do relate, yes, as
a Debbie downer, I do relate. My problem with Gazelle
is when she stirs the pot. Yeah, no reason that.

Speaker 4 (01:15:08):
No, That's the thing is I don't think she's not
a compelling person, Like I actually think she sores when
she's like dealing with something personal or with her family,
et cetera like that, or when she.

Speaker 3 (01:15:17):
Like, like I thought, that's so psychotic to throw them
out of that Oh so crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
Yeah, I mean they got there.

Speaker 4 (01:15:26):
I feel like when she seemed genuinely concerned for Karen,
I was like, this is the kind of thing that, like,
you know, not everyone can do on television, right, Like
I do think like, and she wouldn't be on television
for this song if there wasn't a lot there. It's
the very transparent producing that I don't like, and I
don't like it when anywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
Yeah, she does do that. She does do that a lot,
and the Karen stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:15:48):
I do feel like Gizelle probably produces a lot in
her own life though, I'm like, you're a producer in general.

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
Yeah, because her life is kind of like a reality
show anyway, Like, yeah, what's his face with Jamalrow?

Speaker 3 (01:16:00):
Yeah? Yeah, the guy, the guy. So yeah, I don't know.
I'm I've gotten really into Beverly Hills this year and
I and I did enjoy Potomac. I kind of dipped
off at the end, but I did tune in.

Speaker 2 (01:16:13):
For the reunion. Atlanta had a really good premiere episode.
I heard and I will say this. You know what
I'll do? I think, so honey, Hey, yeah, yes, yeah,
it's time for I don't think so money. This is
our one minute segment where we rarely get something in culture. Yes,

(01:16:38):
m h I mind. Wait, mine is going to be controversial. Okay,
is mine?

Speaker 4 (01:16:44):
Because mine is housewives related and it's going to be
controversial because and it might get me a little bit
in trouble, but I'm going to do it anything.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
Okay, Okay, this is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so
many as time starts now, I.

Speaker 4 (01:16:54):
Don't think so honey. Hating on Porscha Williams for the
for the stealing the man thing, I feel like we
don't know what happened. And I feel like the thing
with Porsche is I believe that she is a bleeding heart,
and I believe that she is really susceptible to men
and their manipulation, and that is not It's sure, it's
a character flaw, but it's not an evil thing about her.

(01:17:15):
I think when people are like she's a home wrecker,
fuck her, I don't I hate the homewreckerd label because
I think it sort of gets across like an evil
person that wants to ruin lives. I do not think
that's who Porscha Williams is. I think that she was
in a situation where sure she had met a woman's
husband on television and then they got divorced. I think
a lot can actually happen in eighteen days. Maybe you're

(01:17:37):
not a mannic Pisces at home fifteen, but I can
tell you a lot can happen in two or three days.
I've been in situations I didn't want to be in,
but my feelings in my heart were telling me one thing,
And I think it can happen when you are Porsha
Williams or Matt Rogers, and if you are, give us
our identities back. But I don't think so honey, condemning
her for this thing which obviously didn't work out.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
She's also paying for it now, I don't think, so honey,
this is added and that's one minute. That's how I
feel like. I feel like, of.

Speaker 4 (01:18:02):
Course, when I heard that Porsia had gotten with Simon Golbadia,
whose Foulon Gbadia's ex husband, like that, soon after I
was like, Wow, that sounds like a really weird situation.
But I just don't like it when people are like,
fuck her home record, etcetera, there must have been cheating,
et cetera. It's like, you don't know a lot could
have happened in that two and a half weeks after

(01:18:23):
my God and matters of the Harder.

Speaker 3 (01:18:25):
I got engaged in three days during the pandemic.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
There you go, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:18:29):
But some of us cannot sit home alone.

Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
Yes, yes, love that. It was really that that short.
It was three days. The engagement was three days.

Speaker 3 (01:18:37):
No, no, no, we got engaged within three days, like
pandemic lockdown started three days later.

Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
She's what I'm saying. That's like, you you know how
we'll know she's a villain if she shows up on
the show with one eye and she wears a cape
made of dogs and yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:18:53):
In this world where villains look like villains. From now on, please, bitches,
My thing is like this, real villains out there, one
of them is president. Let's not let's not waste energy
on Portia Williams her ruin her own life.

Speaker 2 (01:19:05):
She's going to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:06):
It's episode one too.

Speaker 4 (01:19:07):
I am saying it had an amazing premiere and Shamiah
Morton is not like the center character, and I didn't
know that she really could carry that center. But I said,
kudos to them for making that swing because it paid off.
It's she's I didn't realize that she had all of
that going on. Yeah, but she's gonna be really fun
to watch. I wait, I need to watch it too.

(01:19:28):
You're doing a house that's one two?

Speaker 3 (01:19:30):
Yes? No, no, no, no no, I'm not doing housewives.

Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
Okay, so you'll go next, I'll do I'll do one
anyway because I actually I have an idea. Now, okay, good,
this is Bowen Yang's. I don't think so, Honey's time
starts now. I don't think so, Honey, Ashley Darby, because
you know who might have also paid for her significant other?
Ashley Darby? Who is that guy? Who is that guy?
And she can't even take a joke about how he
does look like Jack Harlow And even if he does it,

(01:19:53):
Wendy still made a fun joke. The premise has to
be true. The premises he looks like Jack Jack? What's
Jack Carlow? And I mean, Ashley Darby? The nonsense you
pulled this season. You You were seeded so far into
the background this season that I forgot you were even
on the damn show. You didn't deserve to sit that
close standy at the reunion, and you should have owned

(01:20:14):
up to the lies you did spread about Eddie, because
even though you did not come from you, you helped
bring it to a national platform on the show, and
you need to take some accountability for that. I've never
found you funny, never found you cute. You look good
in Drag I guess as a man, but was otherwise.
I don't care for your antics anymore. If you can
even call at that congratulations on your divorce being finalized.

(01:20:36):
But even that situation is very telling about the kind
of person you are.

Speaker 4 (01:20:40):
And that's one minute. Also, the one thing you missed
the kissing with Jacqueline kill me. It was so dumb
and fake and I was desperate people in the world
without telling you.

Speaker 2 (01:20:53):
Yes, the way she walked is she's like so talk
absence of attraction to each other.

Speaker 4 (01:21:02):
Yeah, truly, you know what what that was giving was
Ashley knowing she had no storyline and that the Jack
Carlo thing is like not real.

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
Yeah. And also Japlin being like something that's not me. Yes,
I'll do it. Yeah, yeah, actually be like no, we
don't need a fuck like yeah, totally, totally, totally, yeah, totally.

Speaker 3 (01:21:18):
I was Anyway, I'm busy getting ready.

Speaker 4 (01:21:20):
Yeah, think about being a human and like walking into
that thing with the camera on you and having that
stupid interaction.

Speaker 2 (01:21:26):
I was like, oh, they called the care guys into
the too that bathroom.

Speaker 3 (01:21:30):
I've done student films that were actually less sad.

Speaker 2 (01:21:34):
And we're going to show them right after this tune in. Okay,
this is Rosebbaker. I don't think so many of her
time starts now.

Speaker 3 (01:21:40):
Okay, I don't think so, honey. Seven season two's pacing.
Do you guys have the audacity to keep us waiting
two years only to drop one episode like this is
network television nineteen ninety seven. I don't think so, honey.
We are not on the severed floor. Okay, we remember
what you did to us last time. I don't think so, honey.
We are five episodes in, and what do we have

(01:22:02):
to show for it? A little espionage, a little cryptic
workplace dread that is a Tuesday for us?

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
Yeah, okay, where is the momentum? What happened?

Speaker 3 (01:22:12):
Where's the what the hell just happened? Energy that we
just signed up for? Because right now, honey, it feels
like I'm sitting through a corporate training video and the
pacing I've had actual miscarriages.

Speaker 2 (01:22:22):
Move faster.

Speaker 3 (01:22:23):
Okay, the whole show is just walking, staring, whispering cryptic
nonsense like the baby goats, bitch, what about the goats? Okay,
and I swear for one more character just stares.

Speaker 2 (01:22:33):
At something for a full.

Speaker 3 (01:22:34):
Fifteen second instead of saying something, I'm gonna throw my
Apple TV remote into the ocean.

Speaker 2 (01:22:39):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:22:39):
I know there's so much more. I just I don't
think so.

Speaker 2 (01:22:42):
And that's why, literally we have I have so much more.

Speaker 3 (01:22:48):
I literally am like, I have a lot of feelings
about this because I've stuck with it until last episode,
where there was like four bottle episodes in a row.

Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
Are you kidding?

Speaker 3 (01:22:55):
It feels like people, I'm getting upset and I listen,
if they can land the plane, God bless them, I
will be blown away.

Speaker 4 (01:23:03):
I trust them to land the plane just because it
feels like it's moments of greatness are so great. But
I would agree I had a really hard time with
the first season because sometimes and.

Speaker 2 (01:23:12):
Like that that was also.

Speaker 3 (01:23:13):
Yeah, Patricia Arquatt literally went to an old friend turned
enemy he did not want anything to do with her.
Was like, please, I need to borrow your truck. He's
like no, why would I give.

Speaker 2 (01:23:25):
You my truck.

Speaker 3 (01:23:26):
She gets in the truck for He's like, okay, yeah,
I'll drive you somewhere. Then she gets out. She's like
looking for something that she literally contacted a past friend
turned enemy for walks into the house to go look
for it, and fucking takes a six hour nap, looks
for it for two minutes to take six hour nap.

Speaker 2 (01:23:43):
I was like, what, so, what is what? What are
you looking for?

Speaker 4 (01:23:47):
We'll have to hope it pays off for me. The
second season just needs a lot more Patricia Arcat Yeah,
like that was one of the great things about the
first season.

Speaker 3 (01:23:55):
I agree they needed a lot more Patricia. I mean
what they gave us of Patricia is I'm not happy
because she's amazing. Yeah, and she was so good when
she was like just female rage behind the wheel of
a car.

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (01:24:12):
I love a woman on the verge, yes, you know,
and then this whole episode, this whole thing where she's
they're trying to explain what her whole deal is with
Luman and also why the why does everybody talk so
fucking stupid one sentence like a human being. I mean,
that's part of why I love that the character on
Cherry's character, Yes, where she's just like, what's up, guys? Yeah,

(01:24:36):
Instead they're like, we're going to tend the garden?

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
What garden?

Speaker 3 (01:24:39):
What even?

Speaker 2 (01:24:39):
Where even is that?

Speaker 6 (01:24:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:24:41):
And what about the baby goats? And what about the
fucking trap door or whatever?

Speaker 2 (01:24:45):
I don't care.

Speaker 4 (01:24:46):
Feeling losty for some well, I think I think, well,
it's interesting, like I've actually heard that a lot of
people that are watching Severance and absolutely loving it are
really not liking White Lotus. And I think that you've
heard a lot of the same things about them both
being slow. So and then my friend said, a whitaker
said this the other day he went to go watch
White Lotus with a bunch of our friends who love Severance,

(01:25:08):
and he said, they were watching White Lotus like that's
a clue.

Speaker 2 (01:25:11):
That's a clue. That's a clue. And I'm like, oh,
so I get it.

Speaker 4 (01:25:14):
It's like some people want to watch this like it's
like a puzzle, and other people want to watch it
like it's like a shatirical comedy, like it's gossip exactly,
and so I am, give me gossip, give me my month,
like delicious.

Speaker 3 (01:25:28):
So funny because I literally thought when Helena came in,
I was like, good on her because the way that
I would have been fired for sexual misconduct on day
two at that office, just trying to make something happen,
and I'm like, God, bless, he's the only person that's
made anything happen.

Speaker 4 (01:25:46):
But I just think it's like, it's funny that these
two shows are on at the same time and like
the water cooler shows of the moment, and they obviously
come out week to week, which you know, forbids people
from binging them, and I think it has something to
do with our attention spans that we're saying. But also
the fact is, like I guess when there's a lack
of prestige elsewhere, we'll just sit and have to wait.

(01:26:06):
It's I just think two of them are offering two
different things. Severnce is a puzzle and White Lotus is
like a prestige soap.

Speaker 3 (01:26:13):
Well, Severance needs to release all three of the last
episodes together because I honestly, I need to be able
to spit like speed it up myself because if it's
appointment television, yeah, and I'm falling asleep in the middle
of every.

Speaker 2 (01:26:23):
Episode, right, that's a problem.

Speaker 3 (01:26:25):
I mean, I will say I'll take fifty percent of
the that's my life.

Speaker 2 (01:26:29):
Yeah, but like, come on, come on, come on, yeah,
whiz bang something. Yeah, it's a lot of stuff. Lately.
We just watched a movie that was it promised more
action than delivered, and I'm like, well, then, I don't know.
I think people would sign up for something that was
like a slow burn thing. But yeah, it is nice to.

Speaker 3 (01:26:49):
Say I am a white Lotus girl though. I love
you said that because I didn't realize it.

Speaker 4 (01:26:53):
It was like, I don't even think it's moving slow.
It's just it's funny. The people that are saying it's
moving too slow are the puzzle.

Speaker 2 (01:26:59):
People are watching it, who love a show that is
moving that is in fact moving too slow. Yes, I'm
gonna say something, and this is just the next extrapolation
of what I've been saying for years. Chuck it and
net chuck it. Netflix has been doing this. I would
encourage other streaming platforms to do this. One point five speed,
one point five, one point seven five speed even one

(01:27:20):
point two five? Wait, no, no, you're anti this? No,
of course I understand. I understand. If you're anti I
used to be anti this. Why is it a bridge
too far for you? That makes me so sad?

Speaker 3 (01:27:31):
I know, I know, because we are watching television, we
are not reading.

Speaker 2 (01:27:35):
Fine, fine, you're right. Actually that's a great, great art.

Speaker 3 (01:27:39):
You know what it reminds me of. Okay, it reminds
me of like when I was drinking, right, I would
if a friend was like concerned with my drinking, I
would adjust. I would adjust my life to make way
for my drinking. If we start that with TV, if
we start adjusting our lives to make up for our

(01:28:00):
short detention spam.

Speaker 2 (01:28:01):
Yeah, that is a very slipper. Okay, you're right, I
take it back. You know what, though, I will say,
it's scary. What about for the mind? So so yes,
for something like prestige like these shows were talking about.

Speaker 4 (01:28:11):
Yes, that's art. It is paced, it's edited, it's like
specifically made for whatever the.

Speaker 2 (01:28:15):
Pace is relatives, and that's why, like I think one
point five is fine anyway initially, but now I take
it back okay, but I used to really get upset
when people said they listen to this podcast at like
one point five one point sometimes one point seven five A,
how are you doing that with us?

Speaker 3 (01:28:28):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:28:28):
That must sound truly like I'm in my brain all
the time, and I don't want to be in your
brain all the time. Like mice, I am running that
fast all the time. If you can listen to us
at one point seven five clinical.

Speaker 3 (01:28:39):
I've been sitting here for an hour looking at you guys,
going wow, they're so good at just getting it out.
Nine years in the game talking just getting it out
quickly and quick witted.

Speaker 2 (01:28:51):
I have been asked by people i'm on dates with, like, so,
how how much dead air do you have to cut out?
And I'm like, we don't know that and they're like what,
and I'm like, yeah, we just we took it up. Yeah,
we'll pick it up.

Speaker 3 (01:29:03):
And it's amazing, it's amazing. I was literally talking to
sarahbout it this morning. I was like, I don't know,
they're so quick, they're so good. I was like, I
don't have it takes me so long to form.

Speaker 2 (01:29:11):
A thought that has proven to be true here today. Well,
because I honestly even checking it.

Speaker 3 (01:29:17):
But that's because I drink so I was checking back.

Speaker 2 (01:29:19):
COFFEESD was that something to do?

Speaker 3 (01:29:25):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:29:25):
But I did do it. I did it.

Speaker 3 (01:29:27):
When I talked to Sydney, she was like, because I
talked to Sydney last night and she was she had
just come from an espresso and I was like, you're
like a different person right now.

Speaker 2 (01:29:35):
I love what this is doing for you.

Speaker 3 (01:29:36):
And she was like, I just I feel like I
really got a good set or whatever. And I was like,
doing that tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:29:42):
He's a Celsius king. I'm a Celsius king. I mean,
the whole office is. I love Celsius. It's so good.

Speaker 3 (01:29:47):
It's so good, and it's so much better than coffee
because I do just feel like I am on a
steady stream of crack cocaine.

Speaker 2 (01:29:55):
Yes, yeah, it's just an x R extended release.

Speaker 3 (01:29:59):
Yes yeah, no real like who like it just sort
of slow up and then and then you're not and
you're landing upside down.

Speaker 2 (01:30:07):
But it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter on Celsius. Yeah,
and I find that even the upside down landing is
not as bad as like a full on crash. No,
it's just you're upside down, but you're you're kind of
still alive to the ground. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:30:18):
Did you hear Dakota Johnson say she thought it was
like a healthy fruit drink. She had like six or
seven of them, and when she was like actually like
having a conniption on the set, and she was just
like because it's like no, it's like it's a lot
of even one is like you're gonna be zoom.

Speaker 3 (01:30:34):
Oh my god, that's my nightmare. The first time I
had five hour energy, I had like a full on
breakdown in the street.

Speaker 2 (01:30:41):
I was like five hour was like that was an overhead.

Speaker 3 (01:30:47):
Yes, it was crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:30:48):
That was too much.

Speaker 3 (01:30:49):
It was way too much. It should not have been legal.
I think it still is.

Speaker 2 (01:30:52):
You definitely can still get it. I remember like.

Speaker 3 (01:30:55):
It's a seven eleven purchase for reasons it is.

Speaker 2 (01:30:58):
And they look like poppers too.

Speaker 3 (01:30:59):
They do?

Speaker 2 (01:31:00):
They do? Put him right next? Can I get that
little bottle? And that little bottle I want to get
absolutely ampt and dilated.

Speaker 3 (01:31:08):
You hold them both up and you're like.

Speaker 2 (01:31:14):
This has been so fun. This has been so fun fun.
The mother Load It's on Netflix now. Most Lady Tour, Baltimore,
Edmonton Sacramento, Cleveland, somewhere in there. You do have a
better memory than you think. No, he's great, that's short term.

Speaker 3 (01:31:27):
I literally was like, is there a teleprompter?

Speaker 2 (01:31:30):
Oh Andrew going on head mcmaon's cruise. Absolutely not cruise. Yes, yes, that's.

Speaker 3 (01:31:35):
Going to be so many women like Adele vacation braids.

Speaker 2 (01:31:38):
It's gonna be a problem. You should should be like, hey, ladies, know,
is everyone feeling like Adele tonight? It's just like my imagine.

Speaker 3 (01:31:54):
I go in there with like full extensions, like actual
wefts of extensions, trying to braid those I.

Speaker 2 (01:31:59):
Want them to be real, visible visible. My favorite thing
is like like this, someone who someone who either doesn't
care or doesn't know that their extensions are wildly out. Yes,
that was me on my wedding, And it's a look
I thought you looked amazing. They show up in the pictures.

(01:32:21):
I look like fucking Heather on the beach. I need
I need to tell you, I need to go. Yeah,
it made it even better better.

Speaker 3 (01:32:34):
I love it. Thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 2 (01:32:37):
This is a joy. Well. We end every episode with
a song that's right by It's Donnie's Last day with
Us by John It's Donnie who operates our cameras. It's
our last day of us.

Speaker 4 (01:32:53):
He's literally the cutest person in the world, so we
just want to say he's moving on to another job.
And actually the song that we want to sing is
what's a goodbye song?

Speaker 7 (01:33:03):
Hope You, Hope You Day, Tani, we Hope you Day,
We Hope you.

Speaker 2 (01:33:16):
Duell and Finance, Dull and Last Cultures. This is the
production by Will Ferrell's Big Money Players in iHeart Radio Podcasts.

Speaker 4 (01:33:30):
Created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, Executive
produced by Anna Hasnier and.

Speaker 2 (01:33:35):
Produced by Becker Ramos, Edited mixed by Doug Baby Anisela
Board and our music is by Henry Komirski

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