Be A Light In The Darkness

Flame Monroe and co-host Bobbi Clifford reflect on their recent travels and audience experiences while diving into timely political commentary around former President Joe Biden, President Trump, and the state of leadership in America. They break down issues like the economic impact of tariffs, the ethics behind congressional stock trading, and the importance of holding public officials accountable. The conversation also brings mental health, bullying, and community support to the forefront, stressing the need for real dialogue and engagement. With honesty, humor, and heart, Flame and Bobbi encourage open conversations across political lines to build understanding, push for better social services, and remind listeners that change starts with all of us. Tune in and comment in the socials below.

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Speaker 1 (01:12):
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Speaker 2 (01:27):
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Speaker 2 (01:43):
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Speaker 3 (01:43):
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Speaker 1 (01:56):
H cain't know this.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Do what you do? Hey, no, peace, do what you do?

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Help do what I do?

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Hey?

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Hey, this is comedian Flame Monroe, and welcome to episode
forty four of Left Alone with Flame Monroe and my
beautiful co host, the Lady Bobby Cliff.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
And Hi today it's our age forty four.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
I don't know what you're talking about. You're gonna have
to stop including me and all your bullshit, Bobby, let's
just start the show, all right. I personally happened to
be thirty nine forever.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Well there you go, there you go. What have you
been doing this week?

Speaker 1 (02:54):
I've been traveling, Bobby. Last weekend we were in San Antonio,
fantastic Houston, saund really good and often just a great city.
I want to thank the people of Texas that came
out to the Tiffany had this funny and feel his tour,
especially to all the white Republicans in the rids. Say
even the Maga hat wearers woo wool because they came

(03:18):
in and they had a great time. They had a
damn great time. They came in bout so many fans
of me, and they had on their magazina. They were
so fantastic. They loved me on the stage, they loved
the whole show. They loved Barbara carl Ale as well
as Sipney had it. But I really believe, and I
know this is going to sound like I'm two my
own horn, and I don't even think about it when

(03:39):
I'm gona sage because I just want to make people laugh.
I really believe that who I am and what I
am is changing, not their minds, but it is taking
away a cheesecloth between the trans people and how they
how they because when they get a load of me,
those people coming by fans, they hug me, they take
pictures with me. They are overly friendly with me to

(04:02):
a point where and I tell those Trump jokes and stuff,
but they are so comfortable with me and wanted to
take just a hug and it would. And it is
so overwhelming to me because I'm like, these people probably
wouldn't see me like this in a different situation, but
because they came to laugh and have a good time,
I gave them what they were looking for, and they
gave me what I was for. When I tell you,

(04:23):
so many white Republicans bought my kids. My dick in
the face fings. Good guy, you wipe those white Republicans
me and a freaky I like it.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
They are sterical. Well, you're very warm, and you're so
approachable in person. I mean, the only time that they
probably have trouble with you is you broke out into
you know, the one hundred yards sprint or something, and
you were going to go against their kid. They might
have a problem.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
If I know one hundred yards. When I get to
the finish line, I'm dead.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
I need a crane and six guys to lift me up.
I mean, you know that's the only time, you know,
Trump is Sue and Maine over over they trans athletes.
But I agree with you. I think we are more.
As I said, you're approachable. You don't make it scary.
You're not an angry person. You know, you're not coming

(05:12):
and pushing anything down anybody's throat. You're just they love
you because you're flaming nothing. Everything else kind of falls away.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah, and they made me feel so welcome. So Texas
was great. I'm here out of Chicago because next Monday,
I'm having my white party here, my annual white party
and for the twenty first at the Fantasy Nightclub here
in Chicago, thirty six forty one North Halsted. You guys
have been doing really good with the ticket sales. Go
to the event Rite for tickets. Chicago is all in

(05:39):
and tizzy about it. And if you are anywhere within
the listening ear do you won't hear this until after
the fact tomorrow. But I am going to be on
WGCI one on seven point five in the morning with
comedian Leon Rodgers from eight till about eleven. So if
you guys get a chance to tune in, I put
all social media stuff up. It's just a great time.
And we will also be in Florida this frime in Tampa,

(06:01):
Florida Friday, and in Port Landerdale, Florida on Saturday. Go
to Tiffanyheadis dot com for ticket information. We're having a
great time on the Funny Fields Tour. We're coming up
to North Dakota and Montana, and I'm telling you, I'm
so excited to go kiss the moose. I don't know
what to do.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
I just second you go on a Tampa you gotta
go and fry your your fanny off or sun your
bonds for two days Montana. It's probably negative something.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Still, I'm going to kiss the moose in Montana.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
Don't kiss them in the dick in the face. I'll
tell you that.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah, it ain't okay, come on, how.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
It was good?

Speaker 1 (06:39):
It was?

Speaker 3 (06:40):
It's quite It's becoming spring here, you know, like you
see all the bulbs. I kind of really I realized
I am super a seasonal effective disordered person. Just a
few days of seventy and it went down. It got
a little cooler for a couple of days. But I
get a little more spring of my step. I feel
like I've got a little bit more energy, you know.

(07:00):
So I'm loving it. I loved I love are here?

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Am I hearing a silent mister on the on the horizon?

Speaker 3 (07:07):
No you ain't, I have I'm in a relationship with myself,
and I love it, but I do it does make
it. It is funny. I feel like I'm kind of in
in moody, a little bit more moody, uh, in the winter.
But now it's gone. Baby. You must see it in Chicago.
It's going to be is it in the sixties there,

(07:27):
fifties sixties.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
It's quite chilly here. It's breezy here, and I may
be relocating back here, so we'll talk about that another time.
But anyway, let's get to the get to the get
to the body, Cooper. So I am in Chicago, and
while I'm here, you know who was here. Former President
Joe Biden was here making a speech about some things.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
Yeah, I sawry he did. He did what I liked.
People were all up in arms. He was blaming Trump.
I said no to myself. You see he actually I
don't even think he said Trump's name. He said disadministration,
which he was talking about Social Security. I think he
meant more musk and the GOP side. I don't think
that he was speaking necessarily about Trump. Trump says that

(08:10):
he's not going to touch those security but they are trying.
They've they've touched it as far as this is what
I believe he was speaking about. They cut seven thousand positions,
So how are you going to get Social Security out?
You know through doze and stuff. They're cutting, they're cutting offices.
You cannot get through the phone, which initially they didn't

(08:31):
want people coming through the phone. And then Trump, you know,
he's the king of walk it back. He then heard
that forty percent of applications are started on the phone.
You know, that's how the elderly do it. They're not
going to be able to go into a computer or
or going into an office, so they really they'd like
you to go into the office so to validate. But

(08:54):
they're cutting the offices as well, so like where do
you go. You can't get a hold of anybody, You can't.
It's not I think that's what Joe was talking about
Inza the Bayham that's being caused. You know, he's the
king of distractions, and you know, just look at all
this craps. It's just ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
You call him, you called him a king of walkbacks.
I don't know, and it is. But here's the problem.
He only walks it back because like you just said,
he's so uninformed, and it has to be. Are you
just uninformed or is everybody around you uninformed? Because somebody
has to be like, dude, this is what I think.
And I think he just does not listen to anyone

(09:32):
because he wants to have all of this. You know,
he wants to be the one to make the rules
and then the rules aren't right, but then he wants
to wait to follow somebody else with the mistakes that
he makes, and he makes tons of mistakes he does.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
And I will tell you I have heard from multiple
the people, you know, the people who were getting let
go and fired the first the first term in administration.
The one saying that I will say was good for
President Clinton, Bush, Obama and Biden is they all spend time.

(10:08):
You know, when they called him sleepy Joe, but because
he was spending so much time in the evenings, they
all prepped. I heard it was a while ago. I
heard President Obama in an interview saying he preps for
two to four hours every night. So he used to
go to bed fairly late, because you know, he had
they give you like this big book is a name
for it at like the beast is the car, Like

(10:28):
there's some sort of name for the prep book. Trump
wouldn't prep. He wanted to do everything when it's fresh
and on the fly, like it was a reality show.
So I think part of it is. But the first time,
at least he had people around him that were very
well informed, belonged in the job, you know, they were experienced.
This time he doesn't, So his lost administration would check

(10:52):
him whether he liked it or not. I don't you know,
that's not the issue this one. They're not. They're nobody's
checking him. As you said, he wants to be the
one who does who wants to make the decisions, but
he doesn't have all the information to do a good
job at making the decisions.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
I believe that. I believe that Trump can read. I
believe his comprehension may be shaky. That's why he had
and his and his attention SPAN's damn sure exactly.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
That was what I was going to say. I actually
think he's probably very bright.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
No, no, no, I'm not going to agree with you on that. Yeah,
his teachers, even his mother made a statement about it
that he was.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
But I think it's got He's got like a horrible
case of a d D. He doesn't he can't sit
down and do the work, which makes you allows the student,
by the way, but it doesn't mean you actually don't,
you know, intellectually have anything. I think he's he's because
he certainly can manipulate to get where he is, so
that takes a certain level of intellect. But I don't

(11:51):
think he has the tools in his toolbox to sit
down and prep. It's a lot of work. I mean,
you know, you got to Marcus Stickers and you know
what's most important, and then after you read it all
on prep, you have to decide what's the most important
to tackle for the next day because you're not going
to get to that. I mean, the book is like
this every single night. You know, I don't think he

(12:12):
has that.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
You know, it's I think he is a b M.
You know what that stands for, big Mac.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
I sat a big ass. I'm like, big what.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Guy?

Speaker 3 (12:26):
Yeah, I don't, but I don't think he I think,
and I think it's unfortunate because he comes out and
makes mistakes, even like with the tariffs, which we'll talk
about in a second. He he comes out and and
he's got they say he's got some sort of plan,
and maybe he does somewhere in the back of his head.
But he's not letting anybody know. He's not transparent about it.

(12:48):
I think his team is good at a spin that
they're creating a plan. They're making it seem like, oh, well,
we're trying to get them back to the table. I
don't think that's necessarily what he was initially trying to do.
I think that's what he's doing now, and if he
can get some of the stuff done, I think it's great.
But I think the problem is you alienated everybody in
the meantime, and there was a different way to do it.

(13:08):
I mean, terms were placed. We've had terffs throughout history placed.
But you and I we don't hear it because the
president's signed out threatening people, you know, calling people names,
going after our creating trade wars, going after our trading partners.
You know, they don't do that. They just on the
side say, okay, China, you're gonna have to belly up

(13:29):
to the beast. You know. They just handle it differently.
But he likes everything out in loud and proud. That's
just the way he's always handled stuff.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
So speaking of speaking of China, we oh decide it's
so bright in my eyes, I with these terrorfs. Bobby Clifford,
you know one of my fans that I sailed from
China and to order a thousand there was already the
shipping was already twelve hundred dollars. With these new terrors
going through rufus keys behaving the hiccups our research, it's

(14:03):
going to cost me like forty six hundred dollars to
order ship shipping fans. So I'm telling you all right now,
y'all better get them from what they hot, because when
I'm out, they might be collected. Because I mean, I'm
not going to charge people fifty bucks for a damn fan.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
That is just it's not It's not worth it, especially
when we have I think that's good of you, because
especially when we have eggs that are in some areas,
you know, still six bucks for a dozen. You need
people to buy their food and take care of their family,
not some people do things impulsively and don't spend the
grocery money on a fifty dollar fan. Doesn't make any sense,
even though I do still have mine right here.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
Oh, you get one of the you get one of
the original one. Bobby, I do.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
I loved it. I can't, but I don't have that one.
I didn't see a year ago when I sold them
for you, you didn't have them. You had a want
to kiss my dick, that's what people wanted. Nobody even
asked for this one, but I.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Only the Republicans. Those Republicans something else.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Maybe did you see that the Federal chair uh Cowell
came out today, he's you know, Trump's guy, and he said,
you know, going back to the tariffs, is this is
going to be a problem. There's you know, it's definitely
going to raise the interest rates, not just short term,
probably overall, and it's gonna you know, unemployment is going

(15:21):
to start. You know again five weeks people, I'm still unemployed.
Nobody's sending me any jobs. So yeah, I mean, you know,
can let me.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Just put a disclaimer ound somebody please hire my girlfriend,
Boby Cliffe. She's a fantastic researcher. Researcher, she is so personable.
She will ask you ten million questions. Understand that that
comes with Bobby Clifford.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
And she's a wor reward. But she has a beautiful
heart and a great spirit. I sell us so much
on the road talking about us. You and I are
dynamic and and people really get into. So I think
we're going to get new fans just because I explained
to them that we did very different look people, we
may have different religions, but we always remember that we're Americans.
We have so much more in common than we have difference.

(16:06):
So I asked people to come in and listen. I
think they really tune into that you touched on something.
I want to get away from it before we go
further deep into the conversation. Talking about Maine, I really
respected that governor of Maine for standing her ground against Trump,
and now they're trying to take all this money away
from her. This is the part that I think Kamala
Harris was talking about unhinged, unchallenged power. Because I don't

(16:31):
agree with you, I'm going to stop the finances coming
to your state that people need. Now, you know, I
feel some kind of way about the trans people in sports.
I think they should create a lane, but I don't
think that you stop the money for all sports in
that stake just because me and you have a disagreement
on what I think and what you think. But that
is what he is doing because they gave him that

(16:53):
unhinged power.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
He's trying to do that. He's trying to do that
with everything right. You know, he's in a battle with
with Harvard University, Brown Columbia. He's taking there, he's taking
their money, their money back. I think it was I've
got to hear somewhere two point two million he's taking

(17:17):
from Harvard. But you know what I love So Columbia
started to buckle a little under the way. But this
is research money flame, you know, like you don't just
take take money of away because they're not getting rid
of the DEI programs. Harvard's like, all right, we're not buckling,
we're not getting rid of it. This is how this
is the way. We're a private institution. The government shouldn't

(17:38):
tell us how, you know, to who to teach, who
to hire, what to do. And it's unfortunate because Harvard
University has a teacher that are a researcher that is
very close to getting big information on als, completing it,

(18:01):
you know, to figure out how we got there. And
he just got a letter it was either today today
or yesterday let him know that his research funding is ending.
And so that's the end of his his als. So
the good thing is they've got billions of dollars in
grant money. Already pay for it with the grant money,
you know, pay for it with the endowments that you're getting.

(18:26):
So I'm hoping that that's the route that they're Yeah,
he pulled two point two billion in funding, and he's
also threatening to cut there. And I have to tell
you this part though, flame, so I'm going to tell
you it. I'm not so not the reason is doing it.
I don't know why he's going to cut their tax
exempt status. I don't know why, and I'm sure somebody

(18:47):
from Harvard would snap my head off and correct me.
Why a private institution is tax exempt. One of these churches,
the megachurches that are making money over fest, they're not
not for profit. They're in theory not for profit. But
when I'm watching these pastors drive around and rolls voices,

(19:07):
I'm exaggerating, But how is that exempt?

Speaker 1 (19:11):
You're they're living in multimbriion dollar homes and then and
they're fleeing their flock, and they are fleecing their.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
Flock, and I don't understand it. So to me, you
should get a you should get a salary. Let them
give them two hundred thousand dollars even they're supposed to
live almost in poverty because if they have to take
care of the family and they want okay, but you
live off of whatever that salary is that they find
you don't live on the as the tilla comes in.
That's supposed to be. I thought with churches, and this

(19:43):
is why they were tax exempt. I thought that was
supposed to go back into the congregation, single women who
don't have money, children who have food and security. I
thought those money is instead of driving the rolls races,
was supposed to go there. And so the same with
the school. I know the schools are they're putting it
into their research, really and they're putting it into bringing

(20:05):
people from all over the world into the school to
make diversity. And this is the reason that they're mad.
But I think I heard President Obama speak this week.
I can't tell you where it was. I'm having a
menopause moment, and he said that people are going to
it's going to be a little painful, but churches, dut churches,

(20:27):
schools and the like are going to have to say
just what Harvard's saying. You know, no, no thanks, We'll
go off the endowments. We'll not have the you know,
take your two point two billion over the next two
years until you're out. We'll figure it out. But we're
not going to be strong armed, you know, in the
law firms. That was the other one that he was
speaking about, because you know, he's tasted anybody that didn't

(20:50):
take him in. We discussed it last week that didn't
take his case and or you know, has some sort
of case that he doesn't like or agree with, or
they hired an m Hoff or whatever. Uh. He's he's
cutting the he's he's slapping them on the hand. He's
cutting there there the cases that they get, the federal
moneys they get. He's not letting them into the federal buildings.

(21:12):
He's these are all the things he's threatening them with.
And we're going to go back to always he throws
it on the wall. God knows what he can do.
I'm sorry, didn't mean to interrupt.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
You when I tell you he is the new Bernie
made off because yeah, when they did all that terariff
stuff last week and he changed, like you said, he
backtracked and boo. But they had him on a hot
mic in the Oval office talk about how his friends
had gotten over doing the doing the stock market crash.
You made ninety billion today and you made two hundred
and fifty million in that is and he is he

(21:43):
is getting paid, I believe, under the table from so
many of these different countries with the terror stay. If
there is a back order deal that we don't know
anything about, of course it will come out later. But
he is, he is becoming exceptionally wealthy with all the
scams that he is running. And it's not that he's
doing it, it's that they're allowing him to do it.
But because they're all in on.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
It, you know what, let's let's come back to that.
Let's let's do a commercial and come back because I
agree with that. There's something else that's going on with
exactly what you're talking about, and I think it's kind
of I think it's kind of lowsy.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
Oh absolutely, Bobby, absolutely, You know the affiliation of him
that you become mega rich, but oh you gotta kill.
Like he said, they're kissing my ass. That is what yuck.
First of all, yuck, one more time, yuck. But he
thrives off of that, he thrives off of that power.

(22:38):
And you gotta jump to me, you gotta bow down.
You gotta kiss the ring. You got to kiss his
orange booty. Yuck. Lets you get one hundred and thirty
thousand dollars like storing to me, Daniels, I'm gonna have
to pass on that.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
That's not that's not enough.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Yeah, Bob, Bobby, you though you would go and head
it one hundred and thirty k right around now with
foof not for brown lips.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
Not for brown lips. It's not my color. I'm mar
of a peachey mob.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
I would be sick for the rest of my Day's
good God, just to see him in his tiny whities,
because you know, the elastic is shut.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
They need to do something though, flame because something that
came out and you're not gonna like it, but it's
a girl that you love. They also need to have
some sort of band. And this is for everybody. Gop
Jebble the whole Congress on Congressional stock trading, Marjorie Taylor
Green and your girl Nancy Pelosi just made a fortune

(23:41):
on tips or information that they had before. And Nancy
came out and I love Nancy, but she did something
that I thought was really shitty. She said, oh, she
pulled an alito. She said, oh, I don't know anything
about the financial decisions. My husband does that. Well. Just
like I said with Alito at the time, tough shit.
Know what happens in your own home. Your wife didn't

(24:01):
put the flag upside down without you knowing it. Nancy,
I love you, honey, but you absolutely if you didn't know,
shame on you, and the buck stops with you. Just
take ownership and say we're going to work on that
or whatever. But Marjorie Taylor Green hand over fish, she
made a fortune. They came up with the numbers, but
I didn't. I didn't actually write it down. I think
if you're in congression, you don't get to trade.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Her numbers apparently were before this she was worth seven
hundred thousand. Now she's worth like twenty two million. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
Absolutely, I don't think flame. I'm sorry. And they don't
make a lot. They make one hundred and seventy four
thousand and before. Some people who make thirty thousand get nervous.
That's all they make while they're what they're there. If
we're talking about not doing these, you know, some of
this tech stock market stuff. They make money when they
can get out, but they have to live in live

(24:48):
in DC which is exceptionally You're in I'm in Boston,
you're in California. You know how expensive it is to
live in those states. DC is exactly the same. And
they have to run their their home. For the most part,
these people don't all live in DC. They live where
they came from. So they've got to run that house
and then they got to come and run run the
DC whatever it is. You know, you got guys that

(25:09):
are like frat parties and they're in their sixties, sleep
in a bunk beds for the love of God, just
to save money, you know, all joining up in an apartment. Uh.
I just don't think it. I thought it's smacked of inappropriate.
You know, it's not illegal. I'm saying that somebody actually
should look at this. They should not be making money.
If Marcus Stewart goes to jail for this, why is

(25:32):
it okay for them?

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Because like Tamala Harris said, he he has unchallenged power.
This is not what he's doing. This is what they're
allowing him to do.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
It's him and Congress like they should all it should
be one big rule.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Again, how rich do you need to be? Because once
the poor don't have Oh, we come to get it
where well, because we know where it's at.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
Yeah, I just I don't think it's right if US
has just lay citizens that are out in the industry,
if we can get in trouble for something like that,
I don't think I keep saying Pelosi because she's on
the Democratic side, but I don't think that, you know,
Marjorie Taylor Green, I mean, Jesus, invest in a hair brush,
for the love of God, I don't think they should

(26:20):
be able to do it either. I didn't like that.
I saw that well. I didn't like that at all.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
Bobbie. It is barbarica that we were sitting here and
we're watching this and the dealings that they're doing with
China and China I love. I don't like the fact
that because I don't think that Elon Musk is exposing fraud.
I think he's creating fraud. That's what I personally think.
I think he is committed fraud. But the fact that China,

(26:49):
they're doing all this with China, and we get so
many goods from China that didn't come out, that all
of these twelve thousand dollars persons and fifteen thousand dollars
bags are worth twelve dollars fifteen dollars, and these people
are spending all these school gouts of money. All of
that is being exposed. But again, y'all wearing these labels.
I always said that about a cook about clothes. Are

(27:09):
they wearing you? Are you wearing them? Because I don't
wear my clothes. I mean, my clothes don't wear me.
I wear them and I don't need your label. I
don't need your name on my clothes for them to
fit me right. They fit me right because I put
them on my ass and I like them. Well.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
You also do something that a lot of people, and
you do it because for you, it's probably a business expense.
You have your clothes made so they fit you beautifully.
Back in the day you would get a label, and
it wasn't because for me, at least, it wasn't because
of the name that was on the label. Certain manufactured
they made the clothes. Well. So I was very tall

(27:41):
and I was kirby, you know. I was a five
to ten and like one hundred and between one twenty
five and one hundred and forty pounds. But I had
a little waist, bigger hips an ass, and I could
Calvin Kleins hit me like a dream. I didn't care
what such No one else had at all that was,
But I just knew I could count on whoever that
maker was, and he would look at aut me. Never Casper,

(28:02):
the Casper suit. I used to that used to got.
It's an old name from way back in the day.
But there were just certain brand. Oh no, now I
got a buffet table. Honey. I used to have a
little bottle. It was cute. Now if I could throw
a table out and rent it out, so the love
of God, I would. But no, you knew, and I

(28:24):
knew the legs would be wong. For some reason, Calvin
Klein didn't make it for five five girls. He made
the clothes for like fire. He made him from the
models tall, so I wouldn't have floods. I always felt
like racle. And even now I like a label for
certain things. I'll tell you what. A pocket book, You
know what you can't get any more flame, A nice
leather pocket book. When we grew up, you could get
a gorgeous pocket book. Everybody sole leather. Now that's this

(28:46):
full pleather crap whatever, and it's junk. So sometimes when
there's a name attached you can get something, but I
could care less for me. None of it makes a difference.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
But we had to talk about the fire and Pennsylvany, you.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
Oh my god, right to just this guy was you
know what this reminds me of? And it's not the
right month for it, but mental Health Awareness Month. There's
many layers to this, but one of them is this
guy was very sick. He actually asked for help, called
multiple sources, and the mental health professionals they called said

(29:21):
you're not you're not danger to yourself enough. There's nothing
we could do to help you. Because it's because of access.
We don't have pleased people. If you're listening, if you
have kids who are kind and will want to give,
let's get some social workers out there. Let's get They're
not going to make millions, but they'll they'll do a
great service for people. We need psychiatrists. We need psychologists.

(29:44):
They're not people. Just don't go into that. For in
the medical field, they're doing something that's sexy like surgery
and dermatology and way you can make a million dollars.
But when I heard that he actually reached out for help,
that made me feel a certain way. Also, let me
ask you this one, well, I mean, you've got to
be in the same place I am. The hell did

(30:05):
he climb the fence with nobody noticing them and get
all the way to the house to like the house
on fire.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
I really feel bad for Jos Shapiro because I like Joshapiro.
I like Jos Shapiro's that Jos Shapiro gets in there
as a politician. He gets grimed me with it. But
I didn't like that they made it. And if it's
anti Semitic, maybe, like you said about, this guy was
crying out for helping here, reached out to all these
different resources. He tried to follow a protocol, and everybody

(30:32):
just did not take him serious in them do we
have to go every does everything have to go to
the extreme to be seen and to be heard, because
that's what it's looking like.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
Well, he's gonna get help, help now. His family said, well,
of course it's.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
Gonna get help now. But look.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
His family, yeah, and well and the citizens of Pennsylvania, right,
they're going to pay for the house, the reconstruction. I
know that that insurance will cover some. But this guy
was he reached out to the police. That's the part
that I'm having the trouble. Probably local police and it's
state police that were outside, but maybe they don't put
them all around the perimeter, and they should have. He
was chewing batteries to get some sort of help so

(31:12):
that some people would notice. He reached out to mental
health professionals, agencies and the police, and they were they
told him there wasn't anything that they could do for him.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Oh, I'm sorry for laughing, but you say he was
chewing batteries, I like, recharge him. Was he doing sale?
Was he was? He energized the bunny you know, Easter Sunday.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
Awful, but he was I'll tell you he was trying
to get the asset. I mean it really his mouth
must be all burned, you know by the time they
arrested him. Awful. I don't know if this was anti Semitic,
and some people might feel it is anti Semitic the
way that we're thinking of it. He did.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
They were saying that it was something in the news reports.
It was saying that they were supposed to be like
an and I think that was just the first go
through that they went.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
Because he was Jewish. What he did say was and
maybe this is antisemitic, and maybe I'm I'm naive and
I'm not understanding it. He said it was because he
didn't like the war in Gaza and he didn't like
Uh Governor Shapiro's views on that. Like you know that
he wasn't that he was standing with Israel saying that

(32:16):
they had the right to defend themselves. Blah blah blah.
I don't know if that's anti semitic, arge just specifically
for the war. You know that he that he felt
badly for the for the people in Gaza. I don't know,
but his life is over. He's a thirty eight year
old mechanic, and and you know, I feel badly. We
need mechanics too, We need people in the trades like
we need air.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
For the love of God, Well.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
The damn, oh my god, he's got it all locked up.
He's got to be in an institution. I mean, this
is you kind of have people with. He's got four
children in his house. I know that some of them
are in their early twenties in school, but he's got
one that's I think ten or twelve are like in
and around that age. You kind of have kind of
burned someone's house on a holiday too, pass Over. It's

(33:00):
like our Eastern it's the high holiday for them, you know,
are an important holiday. Anyway, you can't do that. Oh,
it's very lucky that nobody got hurt. That he didn't
get the bedroom side. He got that side.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Speaking of jail, I want to just say I am
so pleased to announce that. Oh yeah, Carlo Anthony was
released on bond. He is on house arrests. But in
Texas that's the case that well. I told you we
were followed when we were talking about the seventeen year
old young man who fairly stabbed the other young man
because there was bullying incidents. It's still unfolding as we

(33:32):
go on the judge Lord. He's bond to two hundred
and fifty thousand dollars and he was bonded out and
released to his family. So I'm glad that because he's
seventeen years old. I don't know what the outcome of
the case is going to be. I'm not saying that
I'm picking a side, but part of me is. And
if it sounds racist, I'm just gonna this is laugh alone.

(33:53):
We're very honest over here. I hate that the situation
happened again, why do we have to always go to
the extremes to follow protocol. If this boy reported being
bullied by these people, by these guys, why didn't it
have to come to this. This is why we have
to sign stepping in as Americans and really be not

(34:14):
just being vocal, but actually doing something. Like Michelle Obama said,
do something. Something could have been done to avert this
before this house, this guy's house, when Joshua Hill's house
would have been burned, this young man would still be alive.
We we we we make things and we skirt everything
to the back burn and we push it to the side.
Oh it's going to be okay, it's going to be

(34:34):
It's not going to be okay. It is not going
to be okay if you don't do something. Yes, he's
out because he looks so fraim and he's home with
his family and he's still fighting this case. Of the
people are still donating to the campaign because he's going
to need good lawyership. He's in in Texas. And if
you ever put in a position to where you're going
to be jewelry jeury duty, please don't do it. Be fun.

(34:58):
Don't put everybody on the jewelry that thinks like the
other side or put people who think fairly. They don't
have to look like me, but at least they need
to hear the story and think fairly.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
Yeah, and get all the details, because that I'll tell you.
I still even a week later, I can't get firm
details of it. Like I'm like, well, where was it, Well,
what exactly happened?

Speaker 1 (35:20):
What?

Speaker 3 (35:20):
And you can't. It's going to be it's going to
be based on witnesses and stuff. But do you remember
when you were kids, at least in my neighborhood this,
I know it must have happened in yours that you
might not have the personal experience if something happened and
you were out of pocket, you know, Missus Ronald or
Missus Augusto across the street would check me. You know,
Barbara Gene, what do you do? You know? I get

(35:42):
we all go like this and we don't want to
get involved, and we and I think that's a problem.
You know, like even i'd say, flame, you know, whatever, kid,
I saw them bullying somebody on the corner. This is
an incident. You might want to talk to them about
it and get their side of it. But something got
to happen, you know, otherwise they're in a bell towel

(36:03):
or what the noosy? For the love of God, like,
let's check kids. Some kids are reaching out, they need
help and and uh you know, or they need someone
to go and advocate at the school, or they need whatever.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
You made a very good point by the village. You
know that what's the adage it takes a village. It
takes a village. Yeah, there's not always villages. There's not
as we used to have villages. Like you said, the
neighbors were like come and knock on the door. They
would grab you and say I'm taking you to your Yeah,
I'm telling you know, we don't have that anymore. It
was like, oh, that's not my business. I don't see

(36:34):
that term. I pulled down my shades, that closed my blinds.
We need you to open your blinds. We need you
say something because these kids now are so dangerous. You know.
Bullying shouldn't equal murder bully and should not equal work.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
It shouldn't even Yeah, like yeah, and we live in
silos and so we need to get out of that.
We need to and then flip it on the other side.
So you had the neighbor that was going to reach out. Okay,
us as parents people, when all of our kids aren't perfect.
If somebody comes to you and they have information, I'm
not saying believe one hundred percent of what their but

(37:07):
fact check it. Speak to your kid about it. At
least don't go, oh no, not my son. Those are
the ones that get in trouble again. They could they
could just need to speak to somebody. It could be
it could be really simple, or you know, the kid
could be being tortured in school or could be the torturer.
You know. I know people that it's the other way.
They thought their kid was the one that was that
was being bullied and it turned out there with a bully.

(37:30):
So if you want to have a good kid in
the end, we're raising good citizens. Hopefully you got to
do the work.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
Okay, well you on your own with that one. Cool
I am, but I'm.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
Well, I'm willing. I'm willing. Did you do your taxi
yet or put an extension in my home that your taxes.
They're saying the tax day was yesterday or today? I
think they.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Extended stay such day.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
They're saying, big, big trouble. On the other side, you know,
we're these positions are getting cut. It's gonna you know,
especially if you're expecting money back.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
Well, I don't get my back. I don't owe any money.
So listen, I may skip a year.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
Just put an extension in. I mean you could do
it online. You just bought extension and you have to
go back. You have to go it's six months to
nine months or something. I don't know enough.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
I'm not a c The only thing I want to think,
The only thing I want to extend is the seat
belt on the airplane. That's about it. I'm not.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
That's the first thing I say when I go on extension.
Please if Trump is saying that he's his administration, not
Trump is going to end the free tax tax filing
program that we have right now? Could you make it anymore?
Could you make it any more difficult? Why would you
get rid of it? Does it cost the country that
much for us to be able to go on and
do our own tax? Like if you're a simple tax

(38:55):
you get stuff you have to write off. But I'm simple.
I just have a pay slip. I make under a
certain amp of money, so I can't write stuff anything off.
Why can't I go on and file for free.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
Because he has to make guilt rules. Because you remember,
he only pays seven hundred and fifty thousand Texas. And
this man is the art of the deal.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
Yeah, these art or something, the steal, I'll tell you
never it's to stolen that guy that in Alsalvador. We've
got so much different information about the deportation information, but
they making up your own rules. You know, a president
gets power from two places, the Constitution and from CONGRESSCTUS

(39:42):
you know, and Congress you know, the executive power. If
you go through all that, the judicial power, they're all equal,
they're all equal together. The Supreme Court told the Trump
administration that that gentleman had to come back. He is
here illegally from El Salvador, that father that that's down

(40:03):
in the in the prison. He has no criminal no
criminal charges. He is here paying taxes, paying union dues.
He's got a wife that is a citizen, he's got
children that were born here, and they are not going
to bring him back. In fact, Trump was in the

(40:26):
Oval office. It reminded me of Zelensky, and I hope
this guy did have a suit jack at all. But
he had just like a T shirt underneath it the
president of El Salvador. And he's saying he's a citizen
and we're not. We're not returning him. The judge said,
facilitate his return. What does that mean to you?

Speaker 1 (40:43):
Maybe happen now.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
He might comflame and come back and he gets his
day in court again. He did go to court. They
and they said, you're here wrongly, but it's too dangerous
for you to go back to El Salvador because of
whatever tie with the gang. He's not in the gang,
they said. But the Trump administration and that that Bondie

(41:10):
and all that girls. Who's the twenty seven year old
press secretary that I could see her face fibbing up
a storm?

Speaker 1 (41:16):
Uh uh? What is her name? Bobby?

Speaker 3 (41:19):
You know, I haven't telling you. I'm having a menopause
moment all the night. I probably need a shot of it. Yeah,
LOVET is it? Lovett?

Speaker 1 (41:27):
Yeah? Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
They're saying that he's a love it is saying he's
a sex trafficker. I've never we never heard of this,
and his attorney is just saying, just show me. There's
no proof nobody ever said that in any of the
court cases, that nobody ever mentioned it. But they just
keep there. They're like doubling down. You know, it's sort
of it's kind of amazing. But in the meantime, this

(41:50):
guy is there, it's pretty it's pretty pretty scary in
that jail. They won't even let them him talk to
their attorney. They haven't spoken to him, you're supposed to have.
I'm sort of right. And did you see Trump saying
we might even put our home grown I guess as
our citizens down there. Meanwhile, Congress is still not seeing

(42:10):
the agreement with Ol Salvador to see how much we're
actually paying to keep these guys there. Again, they get
the purse strings, not the executive office. If they want
to pay money.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
You just said something. When he wants to say he
wants to send the homegrown, I personally think that there's
a backdoor deal doing. You give money for every hit,
you give money for every head that comes in.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
Absolutely, he wants to do privatization. That's his big thing. Well,
you know, if they're not going to take care of people,
you know, if they've got one hundred and fifty dollars
a day to take care I'm making that up, by
the way, I don't people don't think that that's the amount.
But they're going to give thirty dollars worth of service
and they're going to park at the rest. Because privatization,
they have shareholders. They're gonna make money. You know, they're

(42:57):
not going to put it into the people, into the inmates.
You know, a lot of these privatized places, there's no
ac there's no heat bugs, you know, overflowing toilets. It's
it's a nightmare. And that's cruel and unusual punishment. Again,
the Constitution doesn't say it's okay to put our citizens
in another country, away from their attorneys, away from their families.

(43:19):
You can't do that.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
But he throws it against the wall. That sounds barbaria,
that sounds like, oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
It's cruel and unusual. And I mean I don't think
he I don't think he can do it. But this
will be another court case line hear. I mean, it's
stack them up, stack them up. I mean it's almost
like that's exactly what's happening, because the Supreme Court's going
to look and go, all right, which ones are important
to them? And how are they going to vote on

(43:50):
the instead of everybody getting equal, he's overloading the system.
Or I keep saying him, I don't know if it's
him or his administration. They're like clogging the system up
and so and we're paying attention to all this, but
we're not seeing what the right hand is doing over
here and what's probably actually important.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
Until they finned grabbing homegrowns off the street.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
Yeah right, And.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
That's very feelful for me because as a black person
in this country and I'm trained, and that's a double
strike coming from this administration. Listen, I don't want to
be snatching out. I haven't done anything. I haven't committed
any crimes and leave me alone.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
But you know you you that pandy girdle. You threw
that panty girl away years ago.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
I watched it. I still have it. I just watched it.

Speaker 3 (44:36):
Oh you know, but it is scary the fact that
you're saying that flame out in public, possibly just like
when he was sitting with Lunsky. Why how is that okay?
But because it gets us crazy. Probably has no intention
of doing it, but he gets all of us we're
talking about this instead of what the hell's going on
in Ukraine and then they're getting bombed. They had their

(44:58):
Easter because they have a different calendar than we do
and and palm Sunday and there they little kids got killed.
I thought all that bombing was supposed to be a
sea steal. Remember day one, there was gonna be a
sea steal, a ceasefire sea steal. It just crazy. We're

(45:19):
just we're not paying attention to what's important. You know,
it's funny. I saw a little clip that came across
my phone. I think it was from Channel five, which
is our ABC, and it was I don't know him.
I know he's a Republican senator. He's from West West Virginia.
His name is Jim Justice. He brought his bulldog named

(45:43):
baby Doll to to a to a Senate Energy Committee meeting,
and I thought it was very powerful. And he lifted
the dog up and he put it on his lap
and he said, you know, I didn't think I'd be
lugging a dog around all day. And he's this dog
is like Timmy, you got him, mind your own. You
don't want to. He's tired, he said. But what I
can tell you about my dog is that she loves everybody. Whatever.

(46:09):
Now I'm going to paraphrase, it doesn't make a difference
what race, sexual orientation, what secks She doesn't even care
if you're a Republican or a Democrat. She just loves unconditionally.
She listens, she respects, She does a good job a dog.
And he said, would not be nice if we all,

(46:30):
you know, handle each other that way, and we weren't
at each other's throats. We got to stop. I know, look,
I I love that picture.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
I can relate to exactly what he's saying, because you know,
I just lost my beloved Timmy, and Timmy loved me.
He didn't get it killed that I was a Democrat, Republican, independent, black,
trans upside down gay in between. All I had to
do was ped him on her head, feed him, take
a walk of reverence, belly and again. Like he said,
if only people in relationships were there easy, but it's not.

(47:02):
Unfortunately now it's not.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
And I thought to myself, he had to lug this
forty pounding He was like a meatball dog all the way,
you know, into this meeting. He might he must have
been like as at the end of his ropes. What
I liked about it the most, what I thought was
the most powerful to me in the back of my mind,
I said, see, it's it's everybody we're all disgusted with

(47:26):
the way we're speaking to each other. We are all hitting.
There are cracks where we're getting set up. So I
like that. But in the meantime, the democratic side and
we'll say independence that that lean. We got to get
a message. You know, twenty months from now, we're going
to be at the midterms. We should already be knocking

(47:48):
on doors giving our great message, whatever that great message
is out to people.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
Showing a candidate that we are already gonna pick apart,
going to pick them apart or her apart. So let's
do it now so we can get it out of
the way. Get all the police. Is that the way?
So we get somebody that we like and keep this movement.
But yeah, Bobby, I don't know. I don't know. I'm
telling you, the country seems like it's a train with
no brakes, headed towards the brick wall.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
Yeah, I kind of. It's I'm telling you, I'm disgusted,
and I doge. I don't know when the heck that's going.
I saw her in the paper this week, a local
paper that Elo moscasas taking all sorts of credit for
fraudulent unemployment, claims that they were discovered on the Biden administration,
Why the hell are you taking credit credit for them?

(48:35):
And it wasn't even like there were a that many hour.
It was real claim like there were glitches. There were
glitches in the system. And we're coming up to this
is the stuff we have to pay attention people, And
we're coming up to summer and all of our beautiful
parks are open for all of us to use. We
got no rangers in them because the DOGE cut the
funding on the park rangers. So I don't even know

(48:58):
on the thousand national parks. If you know there's going
to be any any place to safely bring your children
for camp, you.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
Must have to feel some kind of way. Because he
has had eight rocket attempts to go to out of space,
and Jeff Bezos just saying, Gail King and his new wife, uh,
and all of them up there, and he came back successfully.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
She got down and kissed the ground, God bless her.
I I thought to myself, I wonder if sure depends,
and I'm not joking, you know, I would have the
force and how quickly it lifts up yipes. I can't.
I don't know how. I don't know how I would
have done. I give her a lot of credit. He's
got to be something. Something else. I saw that I

(49:43):
thought was kind of kind of great. This week they're
showing on both sides and how both parties are disgruntled.
The town hall, they're not going so great to anybody's lying.
You know, people are are absolutely discussed. I saw one
who she is the youngest congresswoman. I think she's thirty

(50:05):
eight years old. I'm blanking on her name and before you.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
Go behind name. People are sick of hearing the bullys,
kids people.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
That's what it was her own party that said you
I haven't heard this expression. Wait you hear this. You're
gonna it's gonna bring you back. Milk toast. She said,
you are milk toast, which just means that you're weak, meek.
You're not fighting. She said, you're not effective. I don't
know why we would vote for you again in a

(50:34):
year and a half. She said, you're not doing anything.
And the girl, she was well put together. She says, well,
I'm sorry that you feel that way, but we are
really trying. Yeah, but you're not. You've got to and
it's not just you individually trying. When you're you are
a Democrat or you have a party. We're supposed to
be working for everybody. It's all your citizens, but we

(50:54):
should be working together. You're not working together enough. You know,
there's not enough, there's not enough meetings. Meanwhile, at a
Republican Marjorie Taylor Green was doing a town hall. They
had protesters. Three people got taste and she got it
was terrific. She didn't think it. She oh, you know,

(51:16):
you're so stupid that a girl, Christina wrote in and
she wasn't disrespectful. She just said, I don't understand how
where we're at, you know what we're talking about, Medicare,
social Security, how these could even be discussed. She goes,
you're brainwashed. You couldn't be very smart. Christina, I'm thinking,
oh my god, this was I just I tell you,
she drives me.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
You have to see the distractions and how they do that,
because whenever they're back and say, well they're cornered with
the truth, they started hurling insults because it distracts from
what the person was talking about. But the Democrats act
like they don't see the strategy that they use. So
I'm kind of like the Democrats are so dumb. It

(51:56):
really sounds.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
Or so something, But I was I liked that both
parties were unhappy. It wasn't just the Democrats were the protesters,
but not all of them, but the GOP citizens that
were that were in in the audience. We're giving equal
the business to the GOP congressmen and senators at these

(52:23):
time halls. They're not happy either. You said you would
never clush blah blah blah and blah blah blah, and
so okay, you haven't cut Social Security, but you haven't
shut up about it. But you did cut the positions.
You are closing offices, so you're cutting in a different way.
You're making it difficult for my eighty one year old mother.
She could shop like a son of a bitch on Chicos,

(52:43):
but for some reason she would never be able to
figure out. She's like a savant missus Chicos. She's got
she got everything in every size, in every color. But
when you ask her to return something somehow she's got
a kneesua or dementia. She'll she'll say, she's got dementia
and we got to return it. But she's never going
to be able to figure out how to go online
and open up an SSI case or a Medicare case,

(53:04):
if there was something wrong. You're making it difficult for
your weakest and most vulnerable people, the special needs. You know,
they're cutting Medicaid, they're cutting the schools well, the school
money well, the school money that they're cutting, it's going
to be the kids that are in the most trouble.
You're cutting funding for food. Potentially, these kids are food insecure.

(53:28):
Before COVID, at least in our area, we didn't have
free food. Then all of a sudden with COVID, they
had to give the kids. You know, they didn't want
lunches and food and everything coming into the schools because
we still weren't a hundred percent, So they started giving
free even breakfasts. I mean those kids come on that
my sister used to have before that she would have.

(53:51):
This is before you couldn't celebrate a holiday and you
can't you know, so you couldn't bring cupcakes in, but
she'd have granola bars or fruit or whatever she had
in the house in because there was some kids she
knew marn'ty and in order to be able to produce,
you gotta you gotta have You've got to be fed,
so you know, make it. I'm disgusting.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
That is purpose for though, Bobby, that that is with
a purpose to to control, to break control. Put in
a place, and then we have control over you because
they're privatizing the prisons, and the more people who can't
get food and you go committed crime or you do
what you have to do to your food, then we
put you in jail and we get free labor. It is.

Speaker 3 (54:35):
I got to even think of it like that.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
That is just the way I see it, and that
may not be it, but I'm telling you, I believe
that because these prisons have really went privatized and they're
trying to privatize them all. And in order for a
prison to work, you have to have a prisoner.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
It's true. And we just talked about you're really going
to privatize it if it's El Salvador where people are
going to go. Did you see that you are a
governor is going to sue over the tariffs? I thought, hey,
you go, Governor Newsom.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
I hope he's my government for the rest of the
year because they were talking about moving away. So I
don't know, we'll see, but I'm glad because these terrorsts
out of control. Now I know there's a backdoor deal doing,
because I would have never thought that until they had
him in the Oval office gloating, being braggadocious about how
much him and his friends made through the terror scams
that he pulled because like you said, he backtracked, he

(55:28):
did and did he pulled away because I believe that
some of these other countries came to him on the
side swipe and was like, oh, listen, we'll give you
this the undercut if you know. I believe that. I
don't know how true that is, but politics didn't get
real dirty. We knew it was dirty before the good gud.
It's money now.

Speaker 3 (55:45):
It's really money, and there's so many layers to things.
So we were talking about the terroriffs earlier, and you
were talking about the fans, and I was going to say,
whip them all out because the one thing that they
were saying is that and he's going to love this,
but it's going to be misplaced. Spending is up. People
are rampidly spending because they're so afraid of the tariff's coming.
They're buying everything that they think they're going to need.

(56:07):
So that makes it look good for the economy, right,
You know, so he can kind of even though unemployment
is up to before to before COVID time. But it's
gonna look like spending is up, which is great, but
it's not great. It's it's it's a false grade because
everybody's waiting for ninety days from now when they combine
and say what, I'll be stuck with this iPhone, you know,

(56:29):
for whatever. It'll be a fourteen year old iPhone, you know,
because I'm not going to spend thirty five hundred dollars
on an iPhone. I don't have that kind of money.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
If I had, I wouldn't spend it. Give me an
old flip phone that can kick up the street and
pictures or none of that. Bobby, it is barbaric. The
times that we are living in so scary, and I hoping,
like you said, that the Republican Party comes to the
forefront with something tangible that will give some kind of

(56:57):
hope to the Democratic to the people who are because
right now we look hopeless, we seem hopeless.

Speaker 3 (57:06):
Yeah, even their their bass playing, i'd say, the Democrats,
but even not their base, their non base, I said,
in the opposite, I'm sorry everybody, even they're non based people.
Because they're base people. I saw Rah, oh my god,
she dusted off. She could have been Tina fe Halein
was on uh Chris Cromo's podcast, and I couldn't because

(57:28):
she just bugs me. I couldn't. She's like fingernails on
a chalkboard to me. I think she's beautiful, but she
just bugs me. But the one thing, the line that
they grabbed that they stuck on the top basically was
the Tea Party is the group that is his base
that became mega. They shifted over and became mega. And
I'm like, I never that's everybody else is probably going
no shit, Bobby, I mean, how dumb can you be?

(57:50):
I never put that together. But his base, they're all
believing no matter what. I saw Steve Bannon on on
some interview this week and he owed Bill Maher he
was doubling down. He's going to run for a third term.
He went through everything, and I'm like, this guy is
beyond drunk the kool aid. So, you know, I don't
know if he's a little nuts, just period, what did

(58:12):
you think of? I saw Bill Maher and it was
twelve days over the weekend. It was twelve days since
he had gone to dinner at the White House. I
guess he went right into the White House period. The dinner,
he came out, his friend is Chris Rock Not for me?
He kind of set it all up. I think he

(58:33):
thought that Bill was going to like him, he said, surprisingly,
and people aren't going to like this. He was very courteous,
very cordial, he laughed. He last at himself. He said,
there is no other president I would feel comfortable enough
to speak to him. I checked him on everything. He agreed.
He asked him his opinion on stuff. He said, he
gave me the business the entire time on whatever truth

(58:57):
social and then the minute I was out of there,
said he couldn't have been more gracious. While he was there.
He said, I don't think that we have somebody that's
crazy in the White House. He said, I we have
somebody that acts crazy, for sure. He said, I would
like the Trump that I met to be the one
that presents every day, but that's not going to be
the case. But he said, people were so angry that

(59:18):
I went. He goes, we have to talk to each other.
You know, you can't go the next so many years,
all of us, and even this be a springboard for
the next the rest of our lives. Just because somebody
has a different opinion doesn't medi you will speak to them,
he said. So I went, I had no expectation and
I have no expectation that I changed anything. So what
I thought that was kind of mature. Haraldo Rivera kind

(59:40):
of called him out a little bit because Heraldo has
always felt this way, but he loves Trump. But we
can grow, you know, we can make mistakes and have
said something that wasn't how we felt before, and then
you think of things and say it's just going to
keep getting worse. We can't. You know, I have hit
a wall. But what did you think of that? U?

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
You know, I am with Bill Maher fan. I don't
know Bobby Well. I want to say, maybe Bill maher
just accepted how he treated him when he was in
his presence, because remember I did the Breakfast Club and
little Bussie was on it, and everybody knows how he
stuff he had said about it, but he was a
pleasant man to me at that time, so I couldn't say, hey,

(01:00:20):
he was this and that. You know, I know his
philosophies and we didn't have those discussions, but in my
presence he was nice to me. So I can understand
where Bill Myher was coming from that it's just a Trump.
I listened. I would rarely have Trump get fifteen more
seasons of The Apprentice and never did.

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
The day and all, oh, I agree, what I thought
was funny. I thought this was I thought it was
a really good sport of Trump actually, and I thought
it was very clever of Meyer to do so. Mar
But just before he left, called his staff and had
them over the past year all of the insults. There
was sixty six of them that he's given. Bill Maher,

(01:00:56):
He's an idiot. His show socks, it's ineffective everything. They
typed it all up. He gave it to Trump and
he asked them to sign it and he did. And
you know, I love Donald Trump's signature, but he has
the insults, and he showed, he goes, he signed it,
he goes, and he loft. He was gracious, you know,
so he said, and he was talking that same shit

(01:01:16):
the minute it was over, you know. But he wasn't
like that in front of me. And we have to
he said this everything we've already been saying. There's an
overplay for the end of play. He's acting this nuts
to ramp up. He loves to be the master of
disaster and the you know, he wants to be a
change maker of something I don't feel and I am
all for a change. We need change. We have overspending.

(01:01:38):
I'm agreeing with everything that's that's going on a kernel
of it. The way he does it, the way he
enacts it. Hiring people even though they're not getting a salary,
like Musk, bring him in as a consultant for two meetings,
and you don't have somebody go with the chainsaw when
you need as the expression is a scalpel. He needed
to have audits of all those departments. I am happy with, though,

(01:02:01):
attrician and stuff. Cutting things down. Maybe moving skilled people
if you don't need them in that position in that agency,
move them over to another agency if they're a good worker.
But to go in and just cut whole departments down
to the bone. The Department of Education, cut money, you
know moneies, say that you're going to put them back
in the states when there's no infrastructure in the states. Oh,
the small the Better Business Bureau or whatever the hell,

(01:02:24):
small business Bureau to handle the loans student loans, like
like that's some of the crazy stuff he's you just
don't do. I don't know. This would never have happened
under anybody else. Obama keeps saying, I would never have
gotten away with any of this, even Biden. Biden, he
sounded like he sounded I didn't see any more failing.

(01:02:46):
You know what I want them to do. I want
them to I need you to call them up flame.
You're a very good eyeglass person, and I think that's
half the problem. I think because they don't want him
to look old. I don't think he can see. He's
always he's got the big blue eyes and this squinting
because he can never see the goddamn teleprompter, which makes
him sound studded, and he needs to speak well.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
I don't think that's somebody needs to do I need.
But I think he needs to go to Trump's doctor
because Trump doctor Trump said, oh, my doctor says he's
never seen a president as healthy as me and move
and we clearly know that he's overweight, out of shape twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
Sixteen, twenty sixteen, he's a high cholesterol, high blood pressure.
That was the last time he allowed anybody to see.
You're supposed to hand those in every year, but because
that's a rule. Why why you know nobody it's not
written anywhere. It's because I can only imagine what he's getting.
I also bet flame he is hearing aids, but that
would make him look old, you know when you're turning around.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
Oh, he is own.

Speaker 3 (01:03:43):
But they let him be a sected, give him the
tools so he can be the best at whatever age
he is, rather than make him kind of strained. Do
you know, Like, I just don't get it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
And at this point, I don't understand what difference would
it make. He's not the president anymore, so let him
use the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
That's I mean, that's just those are my opinions. But
I was looking at him because I'm thinking of my mother,
and I'm like, he's struggling. He's mentally there. He's struggling.
He is not catching everything that's coming in, and he
can't see the God. I don't think I could see
at my forty four year old age, I don't think
I could see the tele prompter.

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
And.

Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
Never mind eighty two and I am and I am
a very big target. But yeah, absolutely so. I don't know,
that's just the thought. I don't even know if that's
the case. But it just seems like it. You know,
we all get you all get a little old, and
we need a little help. The only good thing did
you see that? Remember the Russian ballerina that got pulled

(01:04:44):
over because she gave fifty two dollars? It was a
fifty dollars donation and a two dollar service fee to Ukraine.
When the wolf first started, she went to visit her
sick mother and they grabbed her. And she's been in jail.
They did a prisoner release last Thursday, and I thought, well,
that's site that she's finally But I thought, John, what's
going to be able to you know, make that on
is still promising? Chakantu, of course, yakant do it? Do

(01:05:07):
you think Biden would have had her back in a
minute if it was that easy?

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
But she's all, well, yes, what y'all, that's a lot,
it's always a lot. Thank you for joining us this
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(01:05:57):
see it and we're not even ninety days in and
we're just getting started. You're marching and your protests and
what else are you going to do? You better pick
up that phone in email. Congress, you better argue, get
loud vote, because now we're in it and we're not
We're in it without a rope. There's oil on the walls,

(01:06:18):
and we're trying to get out of it. We're in it,
but we want to get out.

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
Of the town halls, to get to those town halls people.
I'm telling you when I'm watching, everybody is the Democrats
are shocked that their people are sort of turning on them.
The GOP is shocked that they think everybody should be happy. Well,
we all have to let them know we're not happy.
It doesn't make a difference. And you're working for both sides.

(01:06:42):
You're not down there in DC just working for Trump
side or and vice versa. You know the dams are.
We're working for everybody. Do the work of the people
and get out of the goddamn stock market for the
love of God. And I hope that everybody in Florida
gets a good look at you in your bikini when
you're on there this weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
If you see me in a bikini, you're gonna turn democrat. Okay, Look,
you might even go independent or on decided. Thank you
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Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
Because a mind and your vote are a terrible thing
to waste.

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