Finding Your Highest Path with Psychic Medium Laura Lynne Jackson

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, guys, it's Chelsea and we wanted to thank you
for listening to Dear Chelsea this year. We appreciate your
support and we cannot wait for you to hear what
we have in store for three on Dear Chelsea and
we are looking forward to it. So follow us subscribe.
Catherine is here to say thank you as well to
all of our listeners. Thank you, guys. We love all

(00:22):
of you guys for writing in, for following up with
us this little community that's being created, and we wish
you a wonderful year. Yes, happy New Year. Don't forget
to watch my special on Netflix. You guys revolution. It's
a revolution. Are you a Christmas person or a Honeko person? Chelsea? Well,
I'm a Jew technically, but I don't really know how

(00:43):
to spell hanakah. I know that you can spell it
anyway you want it, and it's fine, and I don't
really practice either. I have a tree and I have
a hanaka minora. Oh lovely. Yes, but I'm not lighting
candles by myself. I'm up here by myself this year.
My family is not here how, which is a huge
Victor three for me. We have spent so much time
together in the last few years that when they started

(01:05):
complaining about travel plants. This year, I just said, you
know what, everybody, let's just let's take the holiday to
ourselves and reflect. That's awesome. Yeah, Brad and I are
also not traveling this Christmas for the first time in
many years, and I am so pleased about it. It's great. Yeah.
I'm like, it's our first time in our new home

(01:28):
for Christmas, and we've got our tree and my parents
are actually going to come visit a couple of days
after Christmas, so it'll still feel Christmas. Ee nice nice, perfect. Yeah,
and you're in your new home with your new little doggie. Yes,
our new little puppy, Wendel benye myrbles. That's really something
I hope Wendel teaches you about hard boiled eggs. Oh

(01:49):
he has men. Those puppy farts are poisonous, disgusting. That's
what you're doing when you're bringing hard boiled eggs onto
a plane. You're bringing puppy farts in a bottle. I know,
I really need to rethink my life, Joyce. Yeah, yeah,
this is at this perfect time. We just needed somebody
to confront you. I'm going to stay home for the
holidays and reflect, yeah, and repent. Actually, yes, Chelsea, I

(02:17):
have an update from one of our Actually this is
just from a listener, but it was so charming and
delightful I had to read it. This is from Claire.
She's in Manchester, England. She says, Hi, Chelsea and Catherine,
I'm a bottle of wine deep, so buckle up, kids.
I thought she was going to say she's a bottom.
I'm like, aren't we all? Yeah? I mean I actually were.

(02:41):
I first heard Chelsea on Glenn and Doyle's podcast and
absolutely loved the way she talked about her breakup and
how she just sounded like she had her ship together.
Then I went down a rabbit hole and listened to
every single episode of the podcast and felt very deeply
in love with you both and your amazing advice. Also,
the little breadcrumbs of Brad's voice every now and then
is genius. That was cute. I have now listened to

(03:04):
every Chelsea Handler book, which I learn apart from the
one she didn't read herself, But that says more about
my selfishness than anything else were mine. I just wanted
to tell you that I'm now in therapy. I have
a psilocybin, bar of chocolate and root, and I'm ever
so slightly codependent on you both. I have looked into
myself more than ever before and am able to forgive

(03:27):
myself and protect myself more now because of you two.
Thank you, thank you, thank you. Claire. Oh my god, Claire,
Hi Claire, that's so sweet. Thank you for writing that
letter to us. Sound nice? What isn't it nice to
know people are going down wormholes about you and you
don't even know about. Yes, it's so exciting, and it's
just like this podcast is doing so much good in

(03:51):
so many people's lives, and these little communities are starting.
I actually have another very exciting update. Are they monkeypox communities?
Hopefully not. I'm fixated on monkey pots and I won't
get past it. Everyone else has forgotten about it, but
not chill. You know, I'm not me. I'm like, let's go. Yes.
So we have like a whole pocket of wonderful women

(04:13):
in n y C. Who are like potentially starting a
meetup group, which is very exciting. Really a meet up
group like for what like for we're fans of Dear
Chelsea and we're independent and single and like love to
hang out and do fun things. Oh my god, I
love it. I love it. That's like the theme of
the special, you know, independence and single doom. I didn't
know how many women feeling to Yes, exactly. There's a

(04:36):
whole group of there's a whole swath of women out
there that need to be represented for not getting married
and having babies. It's true though. It's true though. And
you know what I was thinking about this recently. I
think something that you do for people, because you know,
we get a lot of emails that are how do
I say this? Should I come out and say this
to this person? I think what you do is you're

(04:57):
sort of, in a way their voice and giving them
this boldness and you say what you think, and you're
like not afraid to set boundaries or have difficult conversations.
And I think it's it's a really inspiring thing for people.
It's like they can sort of channel your voice when
they have to have difficult conversations. Great. I would love

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nothing more than that to be my purpose in life.
I give I provide a little bottle of bitchiness that
you're lacking. I love that. I have another very exciting update.
You're pregnant. No, no, I'm pregnant. Oh my gosh, Brad's pregnant.

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Brad is pregnant. He actually he gave birth to our
little wend I know. So remember Anna who wrote in
a couple of weeks ago and was having some dental
work done and she was really concerned about the cause
and she was also having some shame spirals around all
of that stuff. Well, we talked about her go fund

(06:02):
me here on the show, and as of right now,
Dear Chelsea listeners have donated seven thousand, two hundred and
sixty dollars toward her goal to get her dental work done,
which is so exciting. It's so exciting. That's so nice, everybody.
That's so nice to be generous in giving to somebody

(06:24):
a need that always comes back. I just had a
conversation with one of my relatives about generosity, you know,
and how it always comes back, and how it's so
good to exercise generosity and practice it whether you have
money or time or whatever, like just not to hold
onto things so tightly, and especially when someone is in
need and you can help them, it feels so good.

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And especially when you have a lot of people toward
a common goal. It's like some people donated a lot,
some people donated five bucks, and it all goes right
toward helping someone out. It's just wonderful. Just a couple
of things. People have said that we're really sweet as
well because they can leave comments in the go fund me.
May you continue to ask for what you need without

(07:07):
shame or guilt. Smile big Merry Christmas from a dear
Chelsea listener. Proud of you. I'm so sorry you're experiencing
this medical hardship, but you got this. I briefly hadn't
eating disorder many years ago, so I know how hard
this is. But you came out fighting on the other side.
I mean, if this is what I'm talking about with
community that's forming, it's just really exciting. How much money

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did she need to make? I mean, how much was
the cost of everything? Like? Her total is eighteen thousand,
and this number is just growing every single day since
we're talking about it today. We'll pop the link right
in the description again, so if anybody wants to donate
that forgot too before or one and two before, it'll
be right there in the description. So it's all a
very happy holiday. This is great. I'm going to take

(07:52):
Burton Bernice's college tuition obviously, and just throw it towards
this woman's day. That sounds great, that sounds perfect, both
of those two. It's aren't going to get into college
just like their mother, you know, not even a state
at school. No, not even community college. You know. I
actually went to community college for one semester, and it
was those were some of the best classes that I

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took at any of the three colleges that I went to.
So I went to a semester of community college as well, Katherine.
It was called the County College of Morris in Morristown,
New Jersey, and I went and I studied Russian history.
Very ironically, that was what I was interested in, and
I guess that was a foreshadow to what was to
come in my life with my Russian sister in law.

(08:34):
And you're, you know, railing against Putin and all of
these things. I'm actually so not surprised. That's like such
an intellectual thing to decide this study. Well, you know me,
I'm such I'm such an intellect but you are. I mean,
you're like always reading, You're always doing your thing. Like
I just read a great book, by the way, that
everyone should read called The Great Alone. It's so do
you have you read that? No, it's really intense. I

(08:58):
mean it's really about a subject matter that I wouldn't
ever normally be interested in. Carla, my assistant, gave it
to me out a plane and I read the whole
thing and I was like, oh my god. It was
about well alone, nous and moving to Alaska and like
homesteading in Alaska, this couple family living off the grid,
and just how dangerous and scary and alone you are,

(09:21):
and like the end of the World the last for Tier.
It's by Kristin Hannah, and she's a very descriptive writer,
and usually that's not really my cup of tea. She's
like kind of like a female John Steinbeck, you know,
when there's lots of descriptive writing and lots of there's
a lot of authors that do that, and I like
to write dialogue, so I'm always like looking for, you know,
something more on my side of things. But it was

(09:42):
it's beautiful. She's a really good writer, and she that's lovely. Yeah,
it's a big book, but it's worth reading. The Great Alone.
Oh that's wonderful. And then I got home last night
I was like, all right, I need a new book
to start. So I picked out some Rudyard Kipling. I'm like,
I haven't read him ever, probably, And then I read
ted pages and thought, I know why I haven't read
this fuck off? And then I picked up The Paper

(10:03):
Palace and how I'm a hundred pages into that, so,
you know, lovely. Yeah, I'm not reading for homework anymore.
I've decided not during this winter, especially when I'm writing
a book. I want to read for pleasure. Yeah. I
went through a similar thing where I just was like, wait,
I think I'm resisting reading right now because every book
on my nightstand is like some medical thing or some

(10:25):
this or that, and I'm like, I'm just going to
read a fun be trade. So I just started The
Beautiful Ruins and I'm excited. I'm very good. Yeah. Yeah,
it's nice to lose yourself in a book. There's really
nothing quite like it. Yeah. Okay. So our guest today
is an author, teacher, speaker, and my favorite psychic medium ever.

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She wrote the book Signs and The Light Between Us.
So please welcome Laura Lene Jackson. So happy to be here.
Thank you for inviting me on. I know you don't
love to go. You have a little bit of a
travel situation, right. You don't love to leave New York.
I know you live in Long Eye, but you don't
love to go too far away from home, right. No,
actually do like to travel. I just have so much

(11:06):
going on it's hard sometimes. But Oh, I thought you
had some sort of anxiety about like, oh really, Yeah, no,
I love it. I'm like, let me leave my family
for a few days. That's what I do. I even
have a family, and I'm ready to leave them. But
Laura's been integral many times in my life, like when
I've been going through a difficult time, because I am
very open to mediumship and I am very open to

(11:28):
psychic abilities. And I really feel that, as we've discussed
on this podcast various times, the more open you are,
the more you get to see, you know, and the
more closed minded you are at you the more you miss.
And especially when we lose loved ones and that grief
is really just not even describable, it is so comforting

(11:49):
to believe that those people are not really ever gone.
And I really have learned over the course of many
years and a lot through our relationship Laura, that that
is so true and the more you are open to it,
the more you feel it, the more the signs you see,
and the more comfort you gain. So I think Laura

(12:09):
tell us a little bit just refreshed people who aren't
familiar with you. How you came about to be this
person in everybody's lives. Yeah, so I didn't, you know,
start out thinking, oh, hey, I'm going to become a
psychic medium as my career. In life, I was psychic
since I was a child. I would see people in
colors and I would feel what they were feeling. But
I just thought that was the way the world worked.
I thought we all experienced that, you know. When as

(12:31):
I got older, I quickly realized that's not so true.
And then I kind of didn't know what to do
with my abilities, so I kind of hid them for
a while. I was a high school in this teacher
for almost twenty years, and then I would volunteer quietly
on the side for an organization called the Forever Family Foundation,
helping a lot of parents who had lost children and
we're in grief. It's a great organization. Everybody should join in.

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Membership is free. And then one day I went to
hall duty as a teacher, and I sat down on
my little hall duty desk and I got this huge
download from the universe, and it was like a seven
hour conversation in the millisecond. And they told me you're
going to be writing a book, you're going to become
a speaker, you're gonna go do workshops, you're gonna and
this whole plan in front of me. And when I
get those download, there's no emotion attached. And I'm sure

(13:16):
you guys have had that experience too, right, it's just
this knowing. And is it like a voice in your
head that comes to you. That's such a great question. Right,
So it's not like a voice outside of me, but
it's almost as if I've had this really long conversation.
It's like an energy language. It's an emotional language. You
know how we all have subtext going on in our
own minds, like the narratives we tell ourselves and thoughts
running through So this these are thoughts that come to

(13:39):
you rather than from you. You know, we all have
those experiences. I just think because I'm so open and
tuned in, I'm really cognizant when I have them, where
other people might be like, what was that and ignore it?
That's why. I also say, like, pay attention to the
information you get, to the downloads you get. And what
I love too is I always hear artists and other
people talking about getting downloads. It's actually this term we

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all seemed to use for it. So I got my
download and within twenty four hours I had a book
agent and I was going and remember coming home and
telling my husband, guess what, I'm writing a book and
this is going to happen, and it just all unfolded.
I don't always get that much clarity for myself because
I think that's, you know, cheating. I'm having this human
experience too, and it's really important for me to navigate

(14:24):
spiritually my own path. But when I do have that knowing,
I always honor it. And so that's what led me.
Once my first book came out, I tried to teach
and do that, but it got a little overwhelming and
I had to make a choice. Did I want to
commit to sharing this knowledge with the world and looking
at the world is my classroom, or did I want
to go back to teaching high school English, you know,

(14:45):
in a four world classroom. And I quickly got clarity
that this was my highest path, which was a little scary,
but also I think it's so important when we have
those moments of choice on our own spiritual journeys, our
own life journeys, to challenge ourselves to to riot, to
not make decisions based in fear, but to trust, to
trust in the universe, to trust that we are all

(15:07):
so loved and so protected and so very guided that
we just need to tune in and honor that. Yeah,
and that's something that you really imparted with me. Also
on a more recent level, because I had filmed my
own special this year, my stand up special, which is
the best special I've ever done. You know, I've had
the most clarity, the most upstanding work ethic for myself,

(15:27):
the most commitment I've ever had to my craft doing this,
And I was selling the special. I just decided to
shoot it myself and then sell it myself because I
wanted to maintain ownership. And after I shot it, there's
a lot of interest from a lot of different places.
And I called Laura and we It was also after
I broken up with Joe, so she was kind of
giving me guidance on that front as well. Because I

(15:49):
wanted to handle myself with as much grace and dignity
as possible, and she was crucial in making me level
up to that. She's like, this is a soul test.
I was like, body and I had another one. She's like,
you must operate this way. I'm like, I'll do whatever
you say anyway. I when I was talking to Laura
about that, about my breakup and about she said, let's

(16:12):
talk about career stuff. There's a lot of exciting things
that are about to happen. You're about to, you know,
sell the special. And I was like, well, where am
I going to sell it? And she's like, I see Netflix.
And I was like, at this point, now I wasn't
even in conversation with Netflix because I had interest from
three other places. Netflix had a full slate of comedy specials.
They were saying they were closed, that they couldn't afford me.

(16:33):
You know, the market had changed, blah blah blah. They
weren't even looking for specials, so we weren't even giving
it to Netflix. And I said, I don't even think
it's going to Netflix. And she said, you're gonna have
three offers and you're gonna end up at Netflix. She
said that about four months ago. At the time I
had zero offers and I had the Netflix hadn't even
seen it. And a couple of months went by and

(16:56):
there was still there was like a lot of chatter,
but no firm off for from anyone, and I was
starting to get very nervous, like, wait a second, where
is this industry? This is my niche and media, Like
I'm not getting any of the things that I thought
I would get here, Like I thought it would be
an easier haul, and it was. It turned into like
quite a slog for me personally, for somebody who's used

(17:19):
to getting a little bit more attention or respect for
my craft. I was very stressed about it. A couple
of months went by and I reached out to Laura
again via text and I said, hey, listen, I don't
have any offers yet, and I'm starting to get nervous
that it's not going to happen. And she said, you
need to surrender it. This is already done. Just let
it go. You have nothing to worry about. And the

(17:42):
next weekend, Netflix saw my special made me an offer,
and then I texted her, I go, oh my god,
Netflix just made me an offer and they wanted the special,
and she said, but do you have three offers like
I told you, And I said, yes, I had three
offers just like she told Over the weekend, after she
told me to surrender and let it go, I did.

(18:04):
I thought, you know what, if I have to distribute
it myself, then I'll do it. I had accepted the
one thing I didn't really want to have to do.
I didn't think that was how I wanted my special
to be delivered. And now it is at Netflix and
I and I'm like, oh my god, Laura. I'm like,
I'm never talking to a therapist again. All I need
is my psychic medium. And my asked my astrologist Jay Luna,

(18:28):
who is also the two of you, if you guys
got together, I mean the world would be over or
or would begin again. So that's my most recent personal
story about Laura. And I also believe that because of
the length and duration of our relationship, I am more
aligned now to the universe and to things that are

(18:50):
working in your favor, like the idea that you know
what's not meant for you will not pass you. I
have more of an attitude that you don't have to
push so hard to make things happen. It's about trusting
that the things will happen, you know. And I think
that's a big lesson for all of us not to
push so hard and try to fit a circle into
a square. Just understand that your circle is going to

(19:12):
fit into some patchwork and you just have to really trust,
especially when you have the work to back it up
a hundred percent. And you know, you said something so
important there, and I think you're giving away some of
your power, you know, to me, and it's not. It's
not the case. This was going to happen for you
no matter what. I just for some reason I can
really tune into your energy and read you really want.
But the thing for you, I think it was a

(19:33):
timeline of the moment you surrendered that then it would
rush in because that was the sole challenge. That was
where the growth was taking place for you was trusting
and that trusting that your love protected that you are
of incredible value here. I mean, you're a light worker
through and through. And I don't know that you see
that as fully about yourself as I do, because I'm
always reading energy and seeing energy. But just what you

(19:55):
bring to people like you shift people's energy and profound
ways like laughter and joy and helping people laugh at themselves,
laugh at the world, see things in a different way.
You are reaching so many people that you can't even
possibly fathom. You know, one day when you cross and
you do your life review, be like WHOA. But for
now you're just gonna have to have a sense of that.

(20:16):
But I think when you surrendered it and you're like, okay, Universe,
I'm letting go and if I need to do it
this way, if that's the vehicle, I'll do it, And
then it's swooped right in. But I think it was
a timeline of the moment you surrendered that's going to happen.
I think so many of us hold on to what
we think is best for us. But the thing is,
the universe always dreams bigger and there's always a plan,

(20:37):
and our role is to just surrender it and go
along for that ride and open. I guess the thing
that always stumps me about that is there seem to
be people that are so stuck that you run into
a daily that are miserable or negative or not willing
to evolve or or look within or grow. And like
when we talk about what we're talking about, and since

(20:59):
everyone has a purpose because we don't want to diminish
anyone's existence, But what are the purposes of those people,
like the people that aren't growing, or or the people
that don't you know, have a gay son and change
their complete outlook about having a gay child, and they
don't open their hearts instead they remain closed, Like how
do you view those types of people in our lives?

(21:21):
So it's that's such a great question. I think we're
all here on Earth Earth as a school and we're
having this collective lesson in love. So you can never
look at your own life in terms of m I
success or failure based on what I can see and
what I know of my life, because you have to understand,
like we're profoundly affecting each other in ways that we
can't see. Right. So I think it's our responsibility as

(21:45):
individuals to find the gifts we came here with, to
find our light right, to honor them and to share
it with others, and to trust in that process. People
sometimes get stuck in their soul tests and their soul lessons,
and I don't just mean for this lifetime. Sometimes it
goes on from many life times. So if somebody is
not growing, it's that they're spiritually stuck in a cycle
that can change at any moment in profound ways. And

(22:08):
I think also sometimes you know, we we affect others
journeys and others paths in ways that we don't understand.
So maybe somebody who's really grumpy and is stuck in
like a certain soul path, they're one key thing for
that year is to be in a certain place at
a certain time, to be a jerk to somebody else
so that that person doesn't leave and go down the
street where something would have happened. Right. It kind of

(22:30):
like confuses it or ties them up, like we never
fully understand. Or somebody can be such a jerk to
you that you promised to yourself you'll never treat another
that way. Right, that's a huge point. So what you're
really talking about is energy exchange, right, And when we
get down to it, thoughts or energy and they matter
more than we can even begin to fathom. Right. But
when we have our own thoughts, if we're negative, we
throw that negative energy at somebody else. When you receive that,

(22:53):
you have a choice, so you can value it back
or you're going to let it release from yourself, disengage
from it. Right, not be reactive. I think that is
each of our own personal like soul tests on a
daily basis, to not be reactive to other people's negativity.
I think it's really amazing if somebody is rude to you,
if you can actually generally be kind, nice and nice

(23:14):
back to them, you know, sometimes it will switch their
whole energy. But even if it doesn't, you haven't absorbed
that into your own energy then, right, And that's the
case to not absorb other people's energy if it's negative, right,
because if it's positive, you do want to drink it in.
Drink it in. But I think we're all teachers to
each other too, right, So in some people's lessons go

(23:35):
a really long time, you know, Like you're talking about,
let's say there's a parent with a child who's gay,
and instead of like you know, opening their belief system
and their heart and being loving there, they stay stuck
in a very fearful negative space. Right. Well, maybe that's
going to take some time, and other people are involved
in helping them evolve and shift and change, Like we
all matter to each other so profoundly. Yeah, it's it's hard.

(23:59):
You know. There was this thing on Instagram the other
day that was showing the droves of people that crossed
through Times Square every day, and and and and it
was from this like thirty foot perspective, and it's just
a bunch of ants marching right like going through. And
I remember my brother and I were once having a conversation,
a philosophical conversation about reincarnation, and he's like, Chelsea, please,

(24:20):
we're just a bunch of ants marching on this planet.
There's billions of people. There's no rhyme or reason. This
is just evolution and there's nothing mystical or magical about it.
And so when I talked to someone like you, you know,
I I do feel more open minded about the idea
of reincarnation, the idea, but there is a magical element
or component that goes along with it that makes me go, well,

(24:42):
I don't know, do I believe in reincarnation? Do you
know the mysticism of all of it? Well? Why can't
it be both? Right? Yes, there's now eight billion of
us here on this planet and we're kind of all
ants marching around. But I think our energy does profoundly
affect eat. I mean, if Brad and Iyanna had an
argument before, you both came in to this room. Even
if you didn't have the abilities that you had, you

(25:03):
would feel it. You know, It's true when they say
you can cut it with a knife. And so what's
really interesting too about what you're bringing up is like
the woo woo factors what I'm going to call it.
You know, I was raised by teachers. I'm very academic
by nature, and the way I approached my abilities was
really with a really huge amount of skepticism. It's one

(25:23):
of the reasons that I got tested by scientists. I've
gotten tested by different organizations before I volunteered because I
needed to make sure this was legitimate. And while I
might not understand all the components and how it works,
what I do know is that it is a percent real.
So one of the things that I'm very involved with
is I work with a lot of scientists when it
comes to doing research on my brain to figure out

(25:44):
what my brain looks like when I'm in normal talking
mode right now versus reading mode right But it's also
led me to research so many other topics, including past
lives and reincarnation. You know, it's it's interesting because I
think my worldview and my spiritual view it sounds so
magical and fairy tale, like, right, don't worry, You're loved

(26:06):
and protected by the other side. Anybody you love is
still with you and guiding you. You know, you come
back in the same soul groups, you will be reunited.
It sounds like a fairy tale and I get that,
but it doesn't mean it's not true. So if you
start looking at some of the research that's out there,
take a look at University of Virginia, take a look

(26:26):
at Jim Tucker, who's a research scientist there. What he
is researching about past life recalling children. Take a look
at what's coming out of uv A their their lab
in terms of psychic abilities and so forth. There's another
institute called the Rhyme which has been doing research since
the nineteen thirties. Was founded in nineteen thirties by J. B.

(26:47):
Rhyme and linked with Duke University. There's amazing research coming
out of that. Princeton had a lab. You know. The
problem is the researchers that are doing this really valid
research that's proving so much much about energy interconnection, past lives,
are souls, all of that. It's very dismissed by the
academic community. Because people are almost embarrassed to admit that

(27:11):
they're interested in it. They want to have conversations about it,
but not on paper, so to speak. But it's fascinating,
and I'm saying like, don't just believe me, go do
this research. It's really it's really very valid and very fascinating.
And how does this impact you with your kids? Can
I ask you, like when you know when your kids
bring around friend or boyfriend or something. I mean, you're

(27:33):
able to read energy pretty quickly. So if you do
get the bad vibe, how do you do you act
on that to you and share that or do you
just kind of okay? So it's kind of very a
lot like a loaded story with this, Like when when
they were a little I would used to like really
tune in and I'd know when they had tests or
what they got on their tests or when they were

(27:54):
lying and they got really you know, my my oldest
daughter who's now twenty two, she started getting really piste
off me around like age fourteen. She's like, mom, im
get out of my energy, Like she's so mad at me,
and she found a way to somewhat block me where
the other side would only give me like s os warnings.
If something was really going off the tracks, I'd be like, Okay,
I got this download for you. Let's talk about this,

(28:15):
but I will tell you right now. Doesn't even matter
that she had a psychic media mom and I'd be like,
here's what's gonna happen. This guy is not good. But
she just wanted to learn the hard way and did
it her way. And the thing is the other side
would show me what was coming for her too, so
you know, we'd all be prepared. We knew what was
about to happen. Did it make navigating those moments as

(28:35):
of family easier, I guess in the sense of understanding
that there are lessons and there's a plan and everybody
has free will and I needed to respect her boundaries
and her energy in that sense, right, So that was
very helpful. But does it make like the day to
day stuff easier when you're navigating difficult situations. No, But
in terms of reading like energy their friends constantly, you know,

(28:57):
I'll pick up, I'll do car pool and the person
will get and I'll give like, oh that person was
like all about their energy. And my kids are very
psychic too, so I think our dinner conversations are probably
not very normal, but they're normal to us. But yeah,
everybody has energy and you don't need to be a
psychic medium to tune into that. It's just most people
don't pay attention to it. But take like when you

(29:17):
meet somebody new, see if they just feel neutral, See
if you feel like really pulled to them like a magnet.
Or see if you have what I call an allergic reaction,
which is less about judgment but just more like not
my cup of teething. And then honor whatever you're feeling.
But yeah, the more you open energy and you start
sensing and feeling it, it's really a helpful tool to
help you navigate, you know, life in the world. And

(29:39):
when you say the other side, you're talking about like
your spirit guides. Yeah, so when I talk about the
other side, always see it like there's this three part
kind of team of light that each and every one
of us has, like every single person here, even putin,
even putin okay, yeah, yeah, even putin by the way
he fell down the stairs apparently the other day and
shadows pay So there's something to be excited about. Side

(30:03):
note continue, So we all have it right, whether or
not we're accessing and using it is a whole another thing.
So Putin's totally not accessing and using his team of light.
Let's just put it there. He's using a team of darkness.
We have got energy, right, which I see as this
force of just love and light that we're all part
of and we're all connected through. Right. We can call
upon those chords of connection and light at any time

(30:23):
for guidance and to like be led into our highest path.
And then here's the woo woo part. I get that
this sounds woo, But we all have what I call
spirit guides. So throughout time and history, different religions have
called them guardian angels and so forth. To me, they're
just like very advanced spiritual beings who are not here
in our physical life. We haven't known them, right, But
before our souls came to earth, we contracted with them

(30:45):
to be our teachers and our mentors and to guide us.
And some people are very aware of their guides, like
you'll talk to them be like, oh, here's what my
guides look like, and these are their names. And other
people just have this kind of sense of feeling protection
or energy or guidance or being nudged sometimes, and those
are your spirit GUIDs. Most people have between one and three,
but sometimes people have a crazy number or you know,

(31:08):
it's interesting, and then we The third part of our
team of light is anybody we love who's crossed, including pets. Right,
It's that loving, connecting energy. Those people will always be
rooting for us, will always be trying to also guide
us and help us on our highest path. They're there
for the joyful moments, They're there for our sad moments.
They're there for everything, you know, sometimes like silly little

(31:31):
things like minutia, things like picking out what carpet you
want or whatever that might be. But I feel like
opening to that and feeling that presence and that guidance
can completely transform lives, you know, because feeling that love
and that connection and understanding that each and every one
of us is more loved and more valued than we

(31:52):
can even imagine. Yeah, it's helpful to think of it
in that way rather than thinking of it as a god. Know,
it is the universe in and of itself, and the
people that are spirit guides, the people that have crossed over.
Like I always think of my mother and brother when
I'm in a tough spot or a happy spot, like
I'm always like, okay, but I I I have failed

(32:14):
to neglect that there it's not just those two. There's
other people around that are also part of it. And
I just look at it as like, oh, there's somebody
watching me, Like when I was I remember I was
dating the sky when I was like in my twenties,
and I said, I just always want to do the
right thing even when no one's looking, because I believe
someone is watching me. And He's like, but why not
just do the right thing even whether or not someone's

(32:36):
watching you or not. I'm like, because of somebody's watching,
and I want to make sure that I get credit
for doing the right thing as all points anyway, Katherine,
do you want to ask Laura questions, any questions about
yourself before we open it up to other people? Oh?
My good. I mean we should give you a little
bit energy. I know she's got the best energy. Ad
I'm so glad. I mean, honestly, everything you were saying,

(32:56):
I'm like, I felt like my career at least very
much changed around the same time that I consciously shifted
my energy to being like I'm gonna let go and
let good things happen. But also my grandmother died around
the same time, and I remember sort of having this
like mental conversation with her about like, Okay, I've been

(33:17):
throwing a lot of stuff at the wall and trying
to see what sticks, and nothing's sticking. Like anything you
can do up there, like help me get to the
next stage of my life career wise. And that was
when things started to shift, And especially during that time
that year, I just felt her presence so much, and
it was like I would talk to her, you know,
like she was just right there being like I got you.

(33:37):
But I think so I do have a question. So
we have a work opportunity and we're sort of in
a position where, you know, we're not sure if it's
a good fit or not. And I talked to my
therapist about it. She's like, I don't think there's a
wrong answer here. I think if it's a yes, it's
a good decision for you. I think if it's a no,
it's a good decision for you. But when you have

(33:58):
those opportunities that are really fifty fifty could be a yes,
could be a note, how do you make that decision?
This is such a great question. First let me just
touch base about the beautiful things you said about the
guidance from your grandmother, and it just reminded me to
share with people that it's so important for us to
ask for help. It's like there seems to be some
rule where if we invite them, they can help more. Right,

(34:21):
And we have this team alight at our disposal, like,
let's call upon that and use it. So I absolutely
feel your grandmother was helping so much with all of that. Now,
have you asked your grandmother for a sign or for
guidance on what your highest path is to go with
this person or not? That is that's actually really interesting

(34:41):
that you use that specific language because my dad and
I I'm going to get choked up. My dad and
I have been talking a lot about and this is
my dad's mother. We've been talking a lot about what's
your highest and best use, and so that's something that's
been very very in my mind lately. So when you
just said that's like, what's what's the purpose? What's the
highest in best use that hits the nail on the head.

(35:03):
But you know, I'm not sure if this fits into
my highest and best use. I think it could be
a fun job. I think it could be a good job,
but also I don't know if it fits exactly in
that niche of like, this is my highest and best use.
So this is what I'm gonna say. I'm I'm going
to tune in. I'm going to share information with you.

(35:23):
But what I love for people to do is to
know that they never ever ever need a psychic medium.
I'm there for reassurance and I'm there's to step in
and be like, look, this is there for you already, right,
but to tune into it yourself and understand that because
I think even things that feel fifty fifty, it's not
fifty fifty, it's nine. And you just have to get really,
really quiet within yourself, and then you have to split

(35:45):
it into two different categories. Logically, what your little monkey
mind would say is the highest or best path versus
intuitively what your soul is whispering. And sometimes you have
to get really quiet to hear that. Okay. So that said,
when I'm feeling for you is that this opportunity is
showing up for an absolute reason because it's making you
test your own kind of sense of yourself and where

(36:08):
you want to steer the ship of your spiritual journey
right now. I don't think it would be a bad thing.
It's interesting because I keep feeling like there's almost a
little soul test about boundaries for you and establishing what
you want. So I'm going to say, if you say
yes to this, be prepared to have your boundaries tested

(36:28):
and you're gonna have to say three times no, no, no,
or this is what I want, that's what I want,
that's what I want, because it's going to keep hitting you.
So you're learning this. Really you're mastering a soul challenge
there right or you could be like not in the
mood for that test right now. Circle back to me
in two or three years, because whatever tests are there
for you, whatever growth is there for you, it's not

(36:48):
going to disappear. You know, our our team will. I
will be like, Okay, hey, no problem, We'll circle back
to you with that. And I've done that before in
my life. I've been like, I'm not ready for that,
come back in a year or two, and it will.
So it's really up to you. I also feel like
there's a whole another almost like emotional personal like family
focus going on as well, So it's like your team

(37:09):
of light going which one do you want to explore
right now? What would you take your beautiful light energy
and spend it on. Do you want to master this
test or do you want to devote your time and
your light energy to this right now? And in that sense,
there's not a right or wrong answer, because it's your
free will choice. You have to get quiet within yourself
and decide which one's pulling at you a little harder

(37:31):
that I have a question if she is say she
does take on this opportunity and that that this opportunity
presents the opportunity to set boundaries and say no, no, no,
is that a necessary exercise that she that she has
to go through. Isn't that something that might just cause
more problems and maybe k chaos as an overstatement, but

(37:51):
like I will say, the language that you use that
you're just repeated as literally the exact conversations we've been
having of like this would be a good opper tunity
for me to like exercise those skills and like build
those muscles and sort of be working in this in
the space of like some personal things that I've learned.
Boundaries is a big one, but just like these things

(38:13):
that I've been working on so much in therapy, were like,
I feel like I've been able to say like, Okay,
here's where my energy starts and stops and whatever somebody
else is feeling or thinking if I haven't done something
terrible to them, obviously that's their stuff, you know, And
so it truly it was like, the big question is
this could be an opportunity for me to strengthen those muscles.
So literally exactly what you said, I'm like, that's the

(38:35):
conversation we had yesterday, very specifically for what it's worth.
I think you'd rock it. I think you'd pass it
with flying color. It's just gonna be a little annoying
for a while, you know, like you I'm gonna three
times like and then okay, that lessons done. Now it's
it's learned, you know. But it's kind of like if
if I was like, Hey, I'm gonna I really want
to trage to run a five k, and then I'm like,
do I want to do it now? Or they just

(38:56):
want to sit on the couch for another year? You know.
It's kind of like it's gonna wait for you that lesson,
and I don't feel like it's going to be very challenging.
For you. I actually feel like you're gonna feel really
empowered as you own your own light energy. Because let's
get down to it, the relationship we have with ourself
is the most important one we ever have. Right, So
it's about honoring your light by respecting your boundaries, by

(39:18):
using your voice, by spending your energy and beautiful ways
that honor your highest path. Right. So that's feeling right
for you, and you want to take that challenge on now?
You will. You'll rock it, You'll ace it, no worries.
So I'll just tell you now, like short, long and
short of, it's a win win either way. An excellent. Well,

(39:39):
on that note, should we take a little break and
get to some collars. Okay, we're gonna take a quick
break and we'll be right back. And we're back. We're back,
We're back, and this this episode comes to you from Robodescent. Well,
our first question comes from Chloe. She says, you're Chelsea.

(40:01):
It's starting to feel like I'm financially cursed with unemployment.
I've applied to well over a hundred and fifty jobs
and have only gotten one. Unfortunately, the job I scored
is a part time freelance gig that doesn't pay well.
I have a decent resume, or so I thought. I've
done college internships, volunteering, the works. Why won't anyone hire me?
Do I suck that bad? Am? I delusional? What the

(40:23):
hell is wrong here? I need an honest opinion. Background.
I'm a thirty year old chick living in l A County.
I have a car, a computer, and a website with
my work. I have a b a in psychology and
studio art and an m f a in creative writing.
Graphic design is my passion. Jobs I've been applying to
include graphic design, copyrighting, copy editing, and editorial. I'm a
phenomenal employee and I love to work. Sincerely, Chloe. Okay,

(40:49):
Hi Chloe. Hi, Sorry, I'm in my car. Hi. This
is our special guest today, Laura Lynn Jackson. Hi, Hi Chloe.
How are you? I'm good. I just zoomed out on
my stupid minimum wage job for lunch to do this,
so I'm really excited to see you guys. Oh my god. Okay,
so tell us about you. What's your problem? You can't
find a job that you like or you can't get hired.

(41:11):
I cannot get hired, and I don't know. I just
don't know what I'm doing wrong. I have a portfolio
of all copyrighting stuff and graphic design. I've gone to
grad school, I've I went to internships, I volunteered. I
feel like on paper, I've checked like every box. But

(41:31):
for some weird reason, I just cannot catch a break.
I've applied to way more than a hundred jobs, like
way more. I don't know what I'm doing. And do
you think it's something that's happening during the interview process.
Maybe I do have bad anxiety, but I've I've been
prescribed to anxiety meds, so I feel like that's not

(41:53):
a good excuse. But that has been a problem before
in the past. Yeah, well, maybe that is part of
the problem. I'm sure it's not the whole problem. I mean,
we're in a very difficult time in this country right now.
Even though everybody needs a job, nobody wants to work.
So there's like this weird crossover of people who are
trying to work and people are actively trying to never
work again. Services all is just such a hot mess

(42:16):
right now. So I mean, I think that probably permeates
in all aspects of society. But Laura can you take
a look at her energy and tell us what you see.
Laura's a psychic medium. Oh my gosh. So yeah, yeah,
so she's I've known her for years. She is the
real deal. So I'm gonna have her help you take
a look at yourself and see what she sees. Is
that okay, clothe to have permission to kind of dive

(42:38):
into your energy a little bit. Yes, absolutely, I mean
I'm kind of shifting right now, so my aura maybe
a little know. You have no no, no, you have
a your core or is blue, which means you're here
really is a teacher and a healer energy for others.
There such kindness in your heart. Yeah, So the first
thing I want to talk to about is harnessing your energy,
your light energy, and creating a blueprint for what your

(43:02):
highest dream is in terms of a career. What I'm
feeling for you energetically, it's like if we had all
this energy and we just started giving it out to
everybody right a little bit here and there. You're spending
your energy, but you're not directing it. So have you
ever sat down with pen and paper or you could
do this like on the computer or your phone and
written out your dream job, what you would want, where

(43:22):
it would be, what your job duties would be, what
it would be doing for you energetically, what your salary
would be. Have you done that yet? No? I haven't,
but that sounds really fun. Okay, So what's going on
with your energy is you're just scattering it. You're not
valuing your own worth. You're saying, oh my gosh, I'm
coming from this place of fear and desperation, Give me anything,
does anything totally And you don't need to do that.

(43:45):
You don't need to do that. You need to decide
for yourself what your vision is for your path going forward.
If anything you know no holds barred, you could achieve
anything you want and get whatever job you wanted right now?
What would that be? Can you just describe it to
me a little, like what energy would you want to
be feeling when you worked, what would your job duties be?

(44:07):
How close would you want it to be? And you
don't have to say it out that, but like, what
salary would you want? What benefits would you want? These
are all things you need to focus on. So what
do you feel like your light gifts are? Like? What
would you want to explore in your career that you're doing,
if you could do anything you wanted, well, in a
weird way, I already have my dream job, but it

(44:29):
just doesn't pay. Um My, my totally like ultimate dream
would be to be a fashion editor for a magazine,
and I do that with this little magazine. It's called
Mared magazine like ship in French, and it's kind of satirical,
but we try to uplift marginalized designers and showcase small

(44:51):
voices like that in the fashion industry. So that really
is my dream editing stuff, art directing, doing a little
graphic design, your little writing. But it's just such a
small thing. There's really no budget, so I just worked
there for free, like for passion. But if that could
pay my bills, that really would be my dream job.

(45:13):
Editor at a magazine. That's really really wonderful, And I
think knowing that about yourself is key and what you
can kind of program to the universe is like, this
is my goal, this is what I want. The thing
is money is really about energy, right, and so working
for free because you're passionate about it, I get that too.
That's like volunteering your energy. But I would say you

(45:33):
need to have a conversation where with the universe, where
you now say I love doing this, but now I
need this to be able to bring money in for
me to continue it. Right, I would leave that running
in the background, and I would almost say, like, what
else would there be that would allow you to have
enough time and energy to do your passion project? Allow
that to kind of build into something greater. Co collaborate

(45:57):
with the universe by saying, like, lead me to where
I'm supposed to go so that I can continue to
do what I'm passionate about. But in the meantime, show
me where I'm supposed to be to bring the finances
and to bring the money in. Because I think to
one of the things when we're not working, right, when
we were out of work or we can't find a job,
what I tap into is that feeling of where is

(46:17):
my worth? Feeling kind of desperate and a little bit hopeless.
Now that energy stream is going to lead you down
the drain. Right, we have to embrace that we are worthy,
we are light filled, and we have purpose. We have
to honor our passions, we have to trust in our path. Right,
But it's also having a conversation with the universe saying, Okay,

(46:38):
bring something to me for right now to help me
get through this and kind of rebuild my light energy.
So the number one homework assignment for you is to
sit down and to write out I would have two columns.
One is about what you're passionate about with fashion and
everything you want to do with that and how you'd
like that to evolve. And the other is the right now,
what right now job could you get to that you'd
bring bringing in money, you can still do what you're

(47:00):
passionate about and allow that to unfold over time and
be built into a career. Right, what would the parameters
be and what would you want to do? Because then
you're directing your energy in a very clear way, and
I want you to embrace that as if it's already happened.
You've already gotten the job. You're already going to be
making the money because the energy you bring to it.
And especially when we get into manifesting, which is really

(47:21):
just directing energy and thoughts and co collaborating with the universe,
you have to feel it. You can't be in a
state of wishing or hoping or waiting, right you have
to be like this is going to happen for me
and I'm so excited about it. So getting into that
joyful space personally for you, I see a seven months
journey going on. But I think in about three months
you're going to something good. It's going to come in,

(47:42):
Like there's gonna be a job that comes in, and
I think you take that, and I think then from
months three to seven, So we're in three months from now,
we're in December Chin, so like March and then July
will be important for you in terms of getting something
and then like the universe almost offering you something else.
You're asking you another question at the seven month mark.

(48:03):
So this is coming for you no matter what it's like.
If you were waiting for a plane to arrive and
you're in the waiting room, are you going to stress
and be anxious the whole time and pace back and forth?
Are you going to go find like a really good
book or do something creative and fill that space in
another way? So I think what I'm trying to say
to you is for the next three months, this will happen.
Build that confidence like trust in the universe, own your light,

(48:25):
celebrate yourself, do things daily that you say to yourself
I'm really proud of who I am in the world,
and I really really honor like the gifts I came
here with in my light, and I'm so excited for
the universe to guide me in my my highest path
into whatever job I'm meant to be doing. And really
feel that, and repeat that to yourself, because you are
so worthy and you're such a gift to this world.

(48:47):
Each one of us comes program with our own like
incredible light and gifts and talents. Right is trusting in
that and knowing knowing that about yourself? Okay, thank you?
Oh my gosh, just shifting that in my mind thinking
it's already coming, and just focus on not being such
a tightly wound ball of desperation. I know I've heard

(49:08):
people say a rejection can be a redirection, but I
got so many rejections that it kind of had me spinning, like, yes, okay,
I got rejected for graphic design, maybe I'll pivot to copyrighting.
And then it just kind of got me in this
identity crisis. And so what you're telling me to do
is returned to myself, stop spinning my wheels and like

(49:30):
being in this chaotic state and focus on what I
really want instead of what I can be given or
something a percent. And I love what you said about
rejection because that in and of itself is a soul
test you've been faced with and you've been challenged with.
So to get through rejection without feeling destroyed by it
or less than because of it, to realize, Wow, maybe

(49:51):
this is redirection or trusting what you said before, Chelsea,
that whatever is meant for you is going to find
you right and trusting at the universe is going to
dream bigger for you. That you might have the small,
kind of myopic view of what you think you want,
but rejection is redirecting you into something greater, you know.
So I love that you brought that up, and also
to remember the excuse my voice, but to remember that

(50:14):
the test of being rejected, if you react to it
the same way each time, then it's going to come
around again until you have a different reaction. So once
you have the different reaction to being rejected and you
do surrender it because you're bigger, trust is in the
universe and what it has in store for you. I
believe the sooner that those things will come to you,

(50:36):
and then you can stop learning the lesson of rejection
because you've you've nailed it, you know what I mean.
So don't let that bring you down. Every rejection is
bringing you closer to the acceptance that you're looking for.
And I can vouch for all of this. When I
made the switch to podcasting, I had been doing podcasting
on my own like you for free, like my passion projects,

(50:58):
and I had been in putting out resume after resume
in the marketing space because that's what I came up doing,
and I couldn't even get a call back. Like nothing
I did, all the like keywords in your resume and
all these different things that did everything right, could not
get a call back. The second I was like, well,
fuck this, that's not what I want to work in anyway.
I want to work in podcasting. And I put out

(51:20):
a podcasting resume. Within two weeks I got a call
for like my first paid job in podcasting, and it
was awesome. So this, yeah, and just by looking at you,
I'm not a psychic or a medium, but I can
tell how wonderful and loving and you have light all
around you. So just remember that, Okay, remember that you yes,

(51:46):
and Chloe, would you be okay if we share your
website on the show. Oh my gosh, yes please. Okay,
her website is in the show notes, so take a
look at the description. And she's great. Hire her great, awesome,
Thank you so much. This is amazing. All three of
you are amazing. Thank you you all four of us. Girl,

(52:08):
thank you so much. Let us know what happens in
March and July. Okay, I definitely will chuck back. Okay, bye,
she's great. I know, I was like, we gotta have
her on. That's amazing. With Laura specifically, I know, how
would I have answered that question? If Laura you are amazing?
That was like the most masterful answer, Like, that's exactly right.

(52:30):
It's about like once you master that lesson of getting rejected,
that's when it frees off the rejection. You're so smart
with that. The rejection, Well, I learned it from you.
The rejection lesson is the biggest lesson that people have
the hardest time learning because it is such a childlike
feeling rejection, right, it's just never grows up, and it's

(52:51):
so easy to internalize it. You're like, well, this means
something's wrong with me, and it's like not at all.
Maybe you just need to change direction, or when people say, oh,
don't take it personally, it's fuck you personal. Well. Our
next question comes from Corey. He is twenty nine, and

(53:14):
he says, Dear Chelsea, I would love some advice on
this guy I'm dating. We've been seeing each other for
about a month. We've spent lots of time together. He's
met a few of my friends, and we both feel
like this has the potential to be serious. Here's the
hurdle I'm facing. He moved to the US several months
ago and is working on getting citizenship. The paths available
to him will either force his visa to expire or

(53:36):
require him to go to his home country and reapply.
The problem is he's from Kenya, He's gay, and homosexuality
is criminalized there, so that's not a safe option. I've
been helping research and provide resources, even connecting him with
a friend with a company in his line of work
that might sponsor him. But the only option that can
provide him help in a timely manner is marriage. He

(53:57):
brought it up as an option, but was adam that
me saying no does not affect us dating. He can
find another way if necessary, and wants to pursue whatever
we end up being. The thing is, I'm considering doing it.
I'm not precious about marriage. Worst case, we can divorce
within a couple of years and it won't affect his immigration,
and I can get some additional financial security in the

(54:17):
form of a dowry, which is common in his culture.
Best case, we stayed together for a long time. I
really care about this guy, and he seems to feel
the same way. I feel pretty grounded as I'm considering
this option, but there's still that fear that maybe I've
got some rose colored classes on what advice do you
have for the swacky scenario? I'd love to hear some
new perspectives. Thanks, Corey, Hi, Corey, Hi, Chelsea, Hi, Katherine,

(54:43):
and Laura Lynn Jackson here, who's the psychic medium. She's
here today as our special guest. Hi, Lauren's awesome to
meet you. Okay, so you've been you've been dating a
Kenyan guy for one month? Yeah, a little over a
month at this point. Huh. And if you were to
get me married to him, and it's great that you're
not precious about getting married. I am also not like

(55:03):
if I could do somebody a favor, I would I
would be more likely to do it if we weren't
romantically involved than if we were, because that way it's
understood in the beginning. And the only concern I would
have for you is I don't want you to get,
you know, duped into something or have expectations of a
relationship that may not work out, and you know, may
And I think if you go into it for the

(55:24):
right reasons, knowing that this could go either way and
that you're just basically trying to help somebody, but I
think there also has to be a real like groundwork
of laying the foundation for the parameters of that relationship
before you enter into it, right. Yeah, And we've talked
about that a little bit because when it was first
brought up, like, he hasn't pressured me at all, which
I appreciate, And it was very much like, if we

(55:47):
don't do it, we're still going to date. It's not
gonna affect anything. But I was asking questions, like what
happens then if we move in together, which we probably would,
and like what that would look like any serves specific boundaries,
and we kind of just thought about just dating as
if we're new boyfriends instead of pretending we're doing this
whole marriage thing, like be married in paperwork, but then

(56:09):
kind of everything else just be like a relationship. Okay, well,
I'm going to have Laura take a look at you
and see what she sees about this situation. Okay, A
couple of things. First of all, I keep seeing him
go back and then return to the US and three months.
So even though you're saying, oh, hey, this is the
only path and this is that's not what I'm seeing.
So what kind of scenario would it be where he

(56:30):
would go back and then return within a three month
period but be here for a long time after that. Yeah,
it's certainly not the only path. We've talked about. A
couple of things. The biggest issue with him going back
to Kenya is that they're being gay is illegal, any
risks potentially being thrown in jail. But a big thing too,
is just any other path forward, like if you get

(56:51):
sponsored for citizenship or even applies for asylum. It takes
years to get to the point where he's legally able
to work or gets AiZ in ship. And that's kind
of why the marriage is potentially an option, just because
everything else takes so long. So is there any scenario
where he would go back, reapply for a visa, and
be back here in three months. I don't know why

(57:12):
I keep seeing this, um it's a possibility. I don't
know if it would be three months. His current visa
expires in February. That's about three months, But I don't
know how long if you went back to Kenya and reapplied,
I have no idea how long that would take. If
his visa expires in three months, then what happens. He
doesn't have to go back to Kenya to re establish it.

(57:32):
He could do that from me or it depends. So
once his visa expires, if he doesn't have an approved
sponsorship through employment or or any other way, or like
if you did asylum, the processing times for those take
longer than three months, so he would end up being
in here in the country illegally. Basically nice, Okay, It's

(57:53):
interesting because I feel like you're there are two different
paths we're looking at here. One is like the logical,
practical path, and then the other is a spiritual emotional path. Right,
So when I look at his energy too, he feels
like he feels very gentle, like he has a very
open heart. I feel like this scenario could sound shady
if you will, but when I look at his energy,
I don't feel like he's shady. I'm going to say that.

(58:14):
I feel like he's just very loving. That said, you know,
even if you were to get married on paper, that's
that's like a logical paper type of thing. The spiritual
and emotional journey for you too, it's gonna make it
more challenging. I'm just gonna be honest in that sense,
because it's like putting the cart before the horse. But
it would make a really great movie, you know, like
these two people get married and then we see what happens,

(58:37):
and then like the real romance happens and all that.
But that said, I keep getting the sense that the
way this is being presented, and I do not know
much about immigration law and visas and how this works,
so I'm just going on my downloads. What you keep saying.
I feel like there's a third option, Like we're creating
a false scenario, like it's either this or that, Like,

(58:57):
but there's there's a middle ground where it's like you
don't have to get married. I don't know if it's
that you get engaged and he comes back or what
that is, but I feel like it doesn't have to
be that extreme, so to speak. If you wanted to
do because of logical reasons for him get married, what
I would say to you is, I see a lot
of other background paperwork that you need to do to

(59:18):
inform yourself for the legalities of that. For what that
would mean about, I don't know, like if you have
like a work environment and your your salary, your benefits,
like there's a whole lot more involved, is what I'm seeing.
But I really feel like there's this third path where
it's like he goes there and comes back, but we
haven't forced a marriage quite yet. You know. I do

(59:40):
like your energy together, but I think that there's like
an eight month path ahead of the two of you
where you won't really have a sense of each other
or really understand like is this what I want for myself?
And or can we work around these little obstacles for
eight months? So it's going to take another eight months
for you to look at each other and be like, Okay,
now we have to either sign this spiritual agreement going
to be together, or we've learned enough and we want

(01:00:02):
to stay friends or go our separate ways. So if
you get married now, right eight months from now, you're
still going to have that same scenario, and you just
need to be energetically, emotionally, spiritually prepared for that. Yeah,
that makes sense because I've I've researched all the stuff,
all the different paths to legality, and the biggest issue
is just the fact that everything takes so much time,
and he could go back. That is a possibility, but

(01:00:25):
I'm not entirely clear on how that would all work either,
and have to research that more. Yeah, I do think
there's a third path, and it's like less intense than marriage,
but it is. It is maybe like a connection with
you or maybe an engagement or something like that. Did
you guys just meet totally like on your own, like
nobody introduced you. Yeah, we met on a dating we
started dating, and like he's met a couple of my
friends and they all really like him. He's even told,

(01:00:47):
you know, a couple of my friends how much he
likes me. So like, I don't feel like like what
you said, I don't think it's shady at all. It's not.
I mean, it sounds like it should be right, but
the energy it is oddly not. And like he hasn't
been pressuring, And I've been seeing what he's been doing
to get citizenship outside of the potential of getting married.
He's gotten like kissing an a license because he works

(01:01:10):
in the medical field, and he's been like doing all
these classes and stuff so that when he can start working,
he can immediately jump right into it and get a job. So,
like I'm seeing him do all this other stuff, maybe
one of those other things will pan out into a
pathway of citizenship. Right one of these jobs. Is that
a possibility. The biggest issue with that is that the

(01:01:30):
paperwork takes so long. He could get sponsored for employment,
but that takes up to a year for anything to
actually come of it. Well, I mean maybe it's like
he goes back after that, you know, when his visa
is about to expire, and then you guys do the
visa process, the ninety day thing that we all love
on television. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I'm so glad you

(01:01:52):
said he's not shady, because my immediate thought is, like,
you know, the one thing to be careful about is
your responsible for anything he does. So if he runs up,
you know, fifty dollars of credit card debt like that
falls to you if you guys are legally connected there. Yeah,
but I like that you said. I mean, it sounds
like it should be shady, but it's oddly not, so
I'm actually really surprised. One. I mean, everybody wants to

(01:02:15):
become a citizen of the United States, isn't shady. I mean,
it's just a natural you know, it's a natural thing
to want to do when you live in a country
that denounces gay people, even though we also open one.
But it's separate, separate issues. But yeah, I think what
Laura said is great. You know, maybe there is just
keep researching and do all of that kind of research

(01:02:36):
you can to see what the other avenues are, because
there are so many things that none of us know
about until we dive deep into a topic. Yeah, totally.
And I've done a lot of researchs already, which is
partially I'm even considering it, just because everything that I've
looked at take so long and still complicated. Just to
get like the bare minimum for immigrants in the country,
it's really quite ridiculous. But he's chat with an immigration

(01:02:58):
lawyer and it's working on that. So there's definitely more
research that needs to be done. I think, Well, and
it's also great that you're open minded to this, you know. Yeah,
I also feel like there's great bravery in him that
he came here, and I also feel like being the
psychic medium, I don't try to read mediumistically, but sometimes
it leads through. There's like a I think a grandmother
figure for him on the other side, who's very much

(01:03:20):
watching over and protecting him and guided him to you.
And I didn't mean to imply in any way that
wanting citizenship with Shady that is not what I meant.
Like you think somebody on a dating happen, I have
to get married or you're gonna lose me forever, That's right,
But it's like I feel like you two were brought together. Actually,
you know, I think the universe brings people into our
paths and that offer us great opportunities to love and

(01:03:40):
be loved. And that's how this feels to me. So
it's it's really beautiful. Yeah. I feel really good around
him and about him, which is why you know, I'm
considering this because I've dated lots of shitty people in
the past, and I like to think I'm a pretty
good judge of ch character. But just like talking to
him and how he's interacted with my ends and the
conversations we have, Like I just feel really good about it,

(01:04:03):
so help. Yeah, well that's good. Trust yourself. M Well,
let us know if you guys get married, let us know,
keep us supposed to as to what happens. I will
thank you guys so much for the advice. It helps
a lot. Okay, thank you, take care, Thanks you too,
have a great day. Bye bye. It's so funny when

(01:04:23):
you think about, like like I would totally marry somebody
just to get them a visa. You know, you're so awesome.
Was the light worker in you? Because you profoundly changed
someone else's life just but I would, and I would
be like, we don't ever have to talk again. You know,
it's hilarious. I mean, if I'm going to marry somebody,
that's a more decent reason to do it. Well. And
even the year thing where he was saying like, oh,

(01:04:43):
within a year, he'll have his green card and everything.
I know a couple that was like very much quote
unquote in love, but they were super toxic, fought all
the time. He was horrible, like the whole thing. But
she was from Canada and took her five years to
finally get her green card. So like this year thing like, yeah,
my brother's Mary. He just married someone from the Philippines
and he's waiting for her to get her a green card.

(01:05:04):
They got married, she was halfway through the process, but
then they got married and she had to change her
last name to Handler, and the Filipino culture like you
have to do that right away, So then they had
to start the visa process over again. I'm like, god, boy,
what are you thinking, Like you did it backwards? So yeah, yeah,
I mean even John Oliver, he was like, I am
the best possible scenario. You know, I have every opportunity

(01:05:27):
available to me. I have the money to put into this,
and it is a nightmarish process, Like just a nightmarish,
horrible process. John Oliver roasted me on the show once.
What he did he showed a clip from Dr Oz
where I was saying like, oh, is there a b name?
And then he showed that clip and the person's like no. Afterwards,
I went like, there was so much more to that
and it was accurate, and he was like, look at

(01:05:48):
these fools, look at these fraud psychic mediums. And then
people were like, hey, you're on John Oliver last night,
but it wasn't for a good reason, and I loved him.
And then I was like, but by the way, British people,
I do not believe that, you know. They It's just
like they don't take medications. Brits are they don't go
to therapists. They don't believe in anything. All right, Well,

(01:06:15):
we've got Julia back here. Read her email. She's a chef,
by the way, she says. Dear Chelsea, I've lived in
l A for four years now, and I've never been
completely sold on it. My boyfriend of almost the same
amount of time is from here. He's known I've always
wanted to move to the Pacific Northwest, but even when
we put a timeline on it, he backed out. I

(01:06:36):
recently reached out to an old boss of mind to
put feelers out that I was looking to move back
to the area, and she immediately offered me a job.
I accepted, hoping it would be incentive for my boyfriend
to commit to the move. He doesn't want to go,
but he also doesn't want to lose me, and so
as we stand now, he works fifteen hours a day,
mostly six days a week, so I hardly see him
as it is do I move without him? Or do

(01:06:58):
I stay until he's ready to go if he ever
will be Sincerely, Julia, Hi, Julia, Hi, Hello, Hello. Hi.
Our special guest is Laura Lynn Jackson, who's a good
friend of mine and she's a psychic medium, so she's
gonna be able to tell you a little bit more
about yourself than I will. But I'm just gonna get
say right off the bat, move, do your thing, Do

(01:07:20):
your thing always. Do not wait around for any man.
It does not matter. You know, if you're meant to
be together, you'll be together. True, that's always been in
the back of my mind. We are women and we
need to be in control of our destiny, you know
what I mean. And it's a good example to set
not only for yourself, but all of the women in
your life. And I have a best friend who lives

(01:07:40):
out there, like my closest friend, and she's kind of just,
you know, waiting for me to make that move. She
says the same thing, but it's so much easier said
than done. So what's interesting is I really do feel
like we are all psychic. And Chelsea, you keep saying
like I'm not a psychic medium, but and then you'll
say the exact same things I'm seeing. Right, So, like

(01:08:01):
you are psychics? Are you? We all are? And so
are you your psychic to you? And like, that's what
I want to talk to you about, is tuning in
intuitively to what your polls are. I think we all
get what I call pulls to do something or act
a certain ways sometimes, and quite frankly, they're often completely
counterintuitive to logically what makes sense in our lives. So,

(01:08:22):
for example, you have a set path right now, you're
living in a certain place, you have a relationship. Logically,
it might be a little inconvenient to be like I'm
going to move and I'm going to go do this.
But intuitively, that spiritual part, you're the light part of yourself.
I feel like you're really you got your own download
and you're getting a pull to move and go do
this and that you know that's your highest path. But

(01:08:43):
it's coming out of price, right, because there's risk involved,
there's some fear what will this mean for the relationship? Right,
But what I'm going to tell you is it's always
important when making decisions to make a love path choice,
not a fear based one. So if you were to
say no to this job and not move. It's strictly
out of fear. Fear of what does this mean about
me losing my relationship? What if I get there and

(01:09:04):
I feel insecure, I feel like did I make a mistake.
That's all fear based. But if you look at it
in a love based way and see that the universe
is guiding you and everything's feeling right and you're being
pulled there, you're gonna need to trust in that and
act on that. I see you moving, I see so
much light about it. I see that it's fantastic. I

(01:09:25):
feel like the choice here is like the when of it,
because I feel like there's already been some stalling, And
I really feel like if we go back about a
month and a half on your timeline, that's where the
opportunity kind of started, or that poll was, and we've
got another three months to kind of act on it.
But I feel the sooner you can act on it,

(01:09:45):
the higher you're on your path. But only you can
do that. You've got to take a deep breath in
and really trust in your light and value yourself over
any relationship, and understand that you are of great worthy
and us to love and be loved and that not
to say that this is a test of the relationship,
but it is almost forcing a test. Right, you're going

(01:10:09):
to move because this is your passionate path and you
know you're meant to. Let's see how he reacts, you know,
And it's almost a litmus test because if he is
the right person for you, he's going to grow with
you and he will come along and you will work
that out. And if not, the universe is going to
bring you other people. That's how this works. But it's

(01:10:30):
trusting in your knowing and trusting in your pull and
I've to me, it's like such a clear poll for
you to go there. What I've kind of been thinking
about in the past couple of weeks is maybe it
isn't the right time for me to necessarily move there,
but kind of deciding between whether I should stay in
this relationship and try and make it work or I
just try and find somewhere else to live here in

(01:10:52):
l A. Because as much as I don't really love
living out here, I do like everything that the bigger
city has to offer, and I love kind of the
comfortablelity of the current job I do have. I'm a
private chef and I love working for this family and
the the work life balance that I have now. And
I feel like also moving was more of an ego thing.

(01:11:15):
Him not wanting to move kind of hurt my egos.
It's like, Oh, if he loves me, he should want
to do this with me. And I understand that it's
not that easy of a decision to make. But you're right,
if it was something that he wanted to grow and
do with me, that would have shown through already. But
are you saying you would move somewhere in l a
away from your boyfriend? Yeah? Well, what's the purpose of

(01:11:36):
that just to teach him a lesson? No, I guess
just like removing myself from the situation and still not
having to change every like uproot everything about my life
just because he doesn't want to grow in the same
way as me. Yeah, but I think you're talking about
two different things. I think you're you're excited about this
other opportunity, right, that's what's driving you, I mean, getting

(01:11:58):
if you're not going to take that opportunity city, I
don't know what the point is about moving. I mean,
what the point would be about moving away within Los Angeles?
It sounds like this is an opportunity for growth for you,
Like when you're unsure something and you know your gut
is telling you one thing. And it's very clear by
your letter and what you said in the beginning that

(01:12:18):
you kind of want to go back your friends. There
you have this job opportunity that you sought out that's
available for you. I think you should think about growth
when you're not sure about your feelings. Just do I
want to grow? Do I want to grow? And that's
the answer is always yes. And when you grow, things
will grow with you or grow away from you, and
that's not in your control. But all you can focus

(01:12:40):
on is your own growth. Yeah, and the person I
would be working for is has been so kind and
amazing and it it is a person that I would
want to work for. She's just very giving and has
made me feel very comfortable in making a big change, saying,
you know, there's no rush to starting the job, like
take your time, like of this is a big move,

(01:13:01):
and like she seems very excited to have me, so
it is worthwhile. I think that, Yeah, make sure you
tell her how great that feels. That's somebody who helps
you rise, right. I think true power is helping other
people find their light and rise in that. Right, we
all rise together rather than having power over somebody and
being demanding. So to me, it's like who we spend
our time with and who we spend our time around

(01:13:23):
matters greatly. We're always absorbing energy, right, So this, this
woman sounds phenomenal, and to be around her, and to
be around your best friend, it's like such this beautiful, comforting,
supportive circle of light. You know. I think for you,
what I'm feeling in your energy is this great sense
of loss by moving, loss of the relationship, disappointment really

(01:13:44):
in him not wanting to rise to the occasion and
move with you. And there's grief that comes with that,
and I think it's important to acknowledge that and not
hide from it. But it doesn't mean you don't do
it anyway. You know. It's like trusting in your own
value and your own light over all things. Yeah, this
is the first relationship where I've kind of taken the
reins and making decisions that benefit me out of the

(01:14:08):
pain that's come with, you know, things in the relationship.
So it is a little daunting, but it's something I
just need to do. Yeah, you do good for you, though,
I mean, that's really wonderful that you have that self
reflection and insight to recognize that you've been making changes.
And sometimes there are these little small changes with these
little voices within ourselves, right that empower us in incredible ways.

(01:14:30):
And it sounds to me like you've been really going
through that shift into owning, taking ownership of your path
and your light and all those things. And it is
scary and it can be really overwhelming, but that's what
being brave is all about, right. It's like you're still
really afraid, but you do it anyway because it feels
like the highest path to do it. Yeah, I also

(01:14:50):
just to put a button on it. One of my
mentors always talked about your your geographic home, and it
may not always be the place where you live, but
it's the place that you've almost yourself most alive. And
for my mom, it's Arizona. They had my parents have
thought about moving there before they had kids, and now
they're retiring there nine months of the year and they

(01:15:12):
love it. For my younger brother, it's the Pacific Northwest.
And you know, I think if you can live there,
that's great, and if not, you've got to visit as
much as possible. But I think the path has really
opened up for you. It's not like, no, you can't
find a job, No, you don't have opportunities. It's like
you said, maybe this is for me, and the path
is opening up. So I think you have to listen

(01:15:34):
to that. Yeah, and yeah, I've only lived there like
the last two years of high school, and I don't
think it's where I want to settle, but I do
think it's something I just want to go experience and
and feel out and just do something different. Okay, we'll
keep us posted and let us know how everything goes. Okay,
we're on your side. Girl. Thank you, ladies, thank you

(01:15:55):
for taking the time. I appreciate it. Julia by Julia,
I by Well, that was great. Another day at the office.
You just change lives. Another day, another another dream coming true. Yes, well,
let's move to our clothes quick break. Okay, right back,
we'll take a quick break. Uh uh, we're back. Well,

(01:16:24):
we're back with Laura Lyn Jackson and Chelsea. Laura, do
you have any advice you'd like? Do you like can
I help you with anything? Well, there's so much I
really had to like narrow this question you know. So
what came to me was to ask you, and it's
a question for your listeners to not just me right.
But what I know about you, Chelsea is you're this
extraordinary light worker, and you're incredibly brave. And what I

(01:16:46):
also know about you is that every choice you make
has a ripple effect into the world because you're teaching
others through your actions, and you're teaching others by how
you're choosing to embrace your challenges. And the beautiful thing
about you is how honest you are with everyone about it.
So I was really wondering if you could share some
advice about how how we find our highest path, like

(01:17:08):
how you've navigated things to get to a place within
yourself where you have a sense of knowing like this
is what I need to do, this is my highest path,
Like how did you find that? I think a Well,
I'm not lying when I'm saying I've been influenced by
people like you, Teachers like you, teachers like my therapist
Dance Segal, teachers like Eckartole. I didn't know what that

(01:17:33):
knowing was, that voice was because I think sometimes we
get confused between our shadow self and our instinct. So
you don't know if that voice is the bad guy
or the good guy, right, because we all have that
inner voice, but we also have that voice that tells you,
like the devil on your shoulder, you're not smart enough,
you're not good enough, you're not pretty enough, you're not that.

(01:17:55):
So I think it's really about bifurcating those two things
and owing it's not a voice that's inside you, that's
a knowing, it's a feeling, it's a gut. When you
think about something in the warmth that comes with that
inside your stomach or in your chest, where you feel
calm and relaxed, that's when you have the knowing and

(01:18:16):
the idea that you're on the right track. And when
you have that loud, negative chatter, that repetition is the
bad chatter, that kind of telling you you're not good
enough or smart enough, or brave enough, or these people
don't like you. That's all the stuff that you have
to dismiss. And I've learned personally that identifying the differences

(01:18:37):
between those two feelings, the knowing and the chatter. I
know now that the knowing is what I have to trust,
and that the chatter gets quiet or the moment I
identify it, and I go, oh, that's not the real stuff.
Don't listen to that. I think it's so interesting too,
just for everyone who's listening. When you say knowing, you
are like clutching at your gut, like you're pointing to

(01:18:59):
your gut. And when you say chatter, it's like right
next to your had, like in your ear, kind of chatter,
like a little mouth. Because we can never get rid
of those voices, you know. I was always like, why
do I have negative thoughts? Like you know, this is
a conversation Laura and I had recently. I said, you know,
I want to just I don't want to have negative
thoughts about people. I want to wish everyone well. I
want even the people that I don't like or that

(01:19:20):
I have difficult relationships with, I want to be thinking
good things for them. I don't want to scroll through
Instagram and see somebody that I've had a difficult relationship
with and and not be happy for a success. That's
not how I want to operate. I want to give
out good vibes only. And she gave me this great
loving kindness meditation, which is I wish you happiness or

(01:19:41):
may you be happy, May you be healthy, May you
be safe, May you live a life of ease. And
you say it about the person you love the most,
you say it about yourself, Then you say it about
a mentor, which I say it about you every morning,
so I hope you've been feeling it. You said about
someone who's had a huge impact on your life, and
then you say it about a new real person, and
then you say it about somebody you have a difficult

(01:20:03):
relationship with, and then you say for all your neighbors
and the whole world. And she's like, and this is
a way to build great energy around you so that
you have like a fort of good vibrations. And that
is a game changer. People sucking do it. It is
a game changer because even people like you know, when
I have to pick the most difficult person, it's always

(01:20:25):
someone different because I've had so many difficult people in
my life because I'm so difficult that I'm just like, Okay,
who am I going to focus on? And you don't
mean it right away, but over time that when you
practice this kind for meditation, you do mean it. You
do want them to be happy and healthy and peaceful
and live a life with ease. You're just not gonna
do it together. And that's okay, you know. So yeah,

(01:20:47):
and I think identifying just identifying. You know, I didn't
know that those bad thoughts everybody had, everybody has that
shadow self that's telling you that, you know, it's the
devil on your shoulder. It's the person that is when
you're an that says, yeah, you can have another line
of cocaine or a hit of crystal math or whatever
your thing is. It's not your friend, it's your enemy.
But we all have it. And it's just about you

(01:21:09):
managing how to quiet that and how to make louder
the knowing. I love that. Yeah, so this is my guru. Now. Yes, Also,
this is a great book for anyone you guys, I
send this book. I have fifty copies in my house
at all times. For anyone who's ever lost a loved one,

(01:21:29):
you want to send them this book, okay. And the
books are signs and the light between us as the
light between from the universe, well either one, but Signs
from the Universe is the one that I send to
everybody because it's just yeah, it just gives you a
different perspective and it makes you understand that it's just
not over when someone's gone, and you can go to
Laurel and Jackson dot com to find out about upcoming

(01:21:52):
workshops and gallery readings all that good stuff. Yea, and
schedule readings, right, you do personal readings? That could schedule
personal readings. Well that's and closed for many years. Okay,
so never mind. Sorry, I do them every single week.
It's just I'm back Law. That's why I try to
do galleries because many people. Okay, we'll edit that part out.

(01:22:15):
We need her available for our v I P s. Well,
thank you, Laura Lynn Jackson. I love you so much,
such an honor being here. I'm being around your light
energy and being in conversations filled me up. Thank you
so much. Appreciative of you. Right back at you, right okay, girls,
So if you'd like advice from Chelsea, just send us

(01:22:37):
an email at Dear Chelsea podcast at gmail dot com.
Dear Chelsea is a production of I Heart Radio. Executive
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