April 14, 2025 • 22 mins
Dante and Jake talk about the Magic's outlook as the team goes into the Play-In Tournament. They also go around the NBA with the regular season concluding this past weekend.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Step back over, Durrance shot us up, Carro drills in
and the foal change for a three point quite big
time bag came tort headed.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Back the way. A steal by Franz Fondner to run out.
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The fog and get Mike to it.
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Fronz Fagner and the fourth quarter.
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Over it went down. Now back to Kalon. He's gonna
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Magic Insiders is presented by International Diamond Center, your local
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your hosts, Dante Marcitelli and Jake Chapman.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
And welcome every one of this Magic Insiders that has
always represented by International Diamond Center. Dante Marcitelli, dig Chapman
here with you. The magic have some closure, We have
some clarity. We know exactly what is going to happen
in our path to the playoffs, which now we've known
for a couple of days now, but we know it
across the entire NBA. We've got a ton to get to.
Eighty two games are in the book for the entire
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NBA sixteen teams. Well make it. I guess now you
got twenty teams with a chance to move on to
be part of the sixteen. So we'll get to the
Magic's path. Some news today in the NBA will break
that down as well. Let you know kind of the
games that lie ahead here. We've got some play in
games that start tomorrow with the Orlando Magic, the Osceola Magic.
Game three of the G League Finals takes place tonight
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at o'clock down in Kassimi, so an opportunity to do that.
But most importantly, the Magic closed out the regular season
last night and they fall to the Atlanta Hawks one
seventeen to one oh five, and in doing so, triple
double for Keaton Wallace, a two way player for the
Atlanta Hawks. Nobody playing in this game, and the ones
that we're playing weren't playing. Fifteen points, eleven rebounds and
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fifteen assists for Keaton Wallace. He leads away for the
Atlanta Hawks. Nineteen for Terrence Man, terrific player. And for
the Magic, they're led by Anthony Black his first career
double double. He gets you twenty points and ten rebounds,
and the second double double of the season, tenth of
his career for Jonathan Isaac twelve points, ten rebounds and
the Magic Fall, and a couple of somewhat impressive back
to back performances for Jet Howard as well, he gets
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you sixteen last night. But Jake, I thought, last night
we are in the books. We finished forty one games
and now eighteen times in Magic history, this team has
finished five hundred or better eighteen of the thirty six
they finished five hundred or better. If they win on Tuesday,
they're making it to the playoffs for the eighteenth time
in franchise history in thirty six years. So we finished
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forty one and forty one on the season, and last
night was an aberration when there were a lot of
guys going through the motions, a lot of guys were sleepwalking,
But the guys that weren't were Jonathan Isaac Anthony Black,
and I thought I loved the approach that those two
guys had in that game because they are gonna they
have an opportunity, those two guys to be X factors.
In my opinion, in the playoffs, and they took that game,
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the last couple of games the right way, and man,
I thought they were fantastic last night.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Yeah, I agree one hundred percent.
Speaker 6 (03:02):
And even going back to Friday in Indiana, you saw
Jonathan Isaac trending upward and heading into the most important
part of the season. He even said after the game
yesterday he said, I wasn't in the greatest shape at
the beginning about that kind of played myself into it.
We talked at the beginning of the year about the
added weight and how it would help his durability over
the course of the season. That's part of it, But
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obviously the other part of it too is a lot
of guys sort of play their way into shape over
the course of the season, and the bottom line with
Jonathan Isaac is he's been available enough.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
To play his way into shape over the course of
the season.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Seventy one games, Jake. That's the second most he's played
in his NBA.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Career most eighteen nineteen was the last.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Play his second year in the league, when he played
seventy five, So that's impressive for it.
Speaker 6 (03:45):
It's it's it is absolutely one of those arrows in
Coach Mosley's quiver, and we saw last year how important
he was down the stretch and into the postseason in
that cap series.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Defensively, that is an ace up the sleeve. I'll use
all the metaphors and the comparisons.
Speaker 6 (04:01):
I mean, he could make a very very big impact
should you get this series, and he could obviously be
huge tomorrow against Atlanta. You mentioned ab one of the
things I liked about AB about Jet and a few
of the guys who were given opportunities over the weekend
they worked on other parts of their game.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Caleb Houston, Yeah, putt the ball on the back, you know.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
Okay, so what are you gonna do where you got
to go out and just get through these games? Work
on your game show a little bit more. I thought Jet,
you know, we were sort of joking like, how many
three is.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Jet gonna get up this weekend? Right twelve?
Speaker 6 (04:33):
Well, he shot seven, I think in each game, but
he did a whole lot of other things, varied his
game a little bit.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Is Jet gonna be a big part of the postseason rotation?
Speaker 6 (04:42):
I doubt it. He's got some guys in front of him.
But that's that's what you want to see. That's progress.
You want to see him working on his game. You
want to see him working on his defense, specifically.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Ab creating with the ball in his hands. I think
was really good.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
But I look at Jonathan Isaac and then the other
thing yesterday d I'm thinking about Okay Isaac his you
know he's coming off the bench now. Wendell is as
firmly entrenched as your starting center. You know you can
use Ji in different places defensively.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Gary Harris shot the heck out of the ball yesterday?
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Did he?
Speaker 6 (05:10):
I don't know eight or nine man rotation, but I
know that Gary is healthy right now. It feels like
he's trusting those legs, trusting his body and playing some
good ball. And that is a guy that you know
what you're gonna get when he's out there on the floor,
especially in a big spot like this. So I was
pretty pleased. Friday was a blast.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Obviously scronged. It was incredible points.
Speaker 6 (05:31):
That was a lot of fun. They were they were postseason,
preseason type of games. Don't don't read too deeply into it,
but I do think he saw some individual performances that
you can be happy about.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Well, and I love the approach. I don't know how
you miscalculate the game. So Trevlyn Queen is not available.
I would have liked to have seen that could have
been a great opportunity for him. But he gave everybody
something to think about, for sure.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
I love that. I loved his comments post game.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
Of course, he torched his former team, the Indiana Pacers,
and he went for twenty five, and he said, this
game gave me the confidence that I'm an NBA player
and we'll see what lies ahead. If it's here or
you're always auditioning for somebody. Hopefully he gets a contract
here and if not, you get a contract from somebody.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
But I thought that was impressive. Would love to have
seen him play.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
You know, if the g League if Ossiola one on Friday,
there's a chance that or on Saturday, there's a chance
of those guys would have been available. I'm sorry, if
they want on Friday, there's a chance for those guys
would have been available to play on Sunday. So it
would have been nice to see Mac McClung and Ethan
Thompson out there as well. You know you're going into
the playoffs. I love what Jet and Caleb did. I
think if you're coach Mosley, you're saying, how are these
guys going to help me defensively? And they allowed more
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threes than they made, so I think that might have
hurt him a little bit.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
But I love the offense. I love that they did.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
And now now maybe you say, Okay, we're stagnant offensively.
Can those guys go out there and give me, give
me a shot in the arm. Caleb proven to be
a part of the rotation here of late, so he
might get an opportunity. Anthony Black played eleven minutes in
the playoffs last year, two games, eleven minutes.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Right, this is going to be a whole new world.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
And he he has been a man on fire on
a mission here these last couple of weeks, and I
love that about him, and I think he's going to
have a chance to be an next Well, now we know, right,
the game is set.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
We know the time.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Jac It's gonna be seven thirty tomorrow at Kia Center.
You're gonna have the broadcast right here on ninety six
to nine. In the game, it'll be a nationally televised
game on TNT. All the playing games are nationally televised,
so we will not have that on FanDuel Sports Network.
You will be working with Jeff Turner on the broadcast
right here on ninety six to nine the game pregame
show at seven o'clock. Tickets Orlando Magic dot com. There
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So Orlando Magic dot com.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
And why is this game important? Well, if you win tomorrow,
you move on.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
You're in.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
You're the seventh seed and you're gonna face the Boston Celtics.
That's a heck of a reward for getting in. But
you're gonna face the Boston Celtics. If you lose, you
then have to win a winner go home game on Friday,
and that gets you in. Is the eighth seed to
play the Cleveland Cavaliers. So Orlando Magic dot com. We
need you in the building. We need a full loud
Kia Center like we've had the entire year, like we've
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had for several years. And the first thing that my
wife Landa said to me when we got home is
I'm kind of glad that we lost to Atlanta because
I don't feel good having a beat him three times
in a row.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
And I said, Okay, that's not that's not Even though
it's different, people and all that.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
I get it, But you're right, you're not trying to
beat a team three times in a row.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
So Atlanta Alabado, who said that exactly.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
So you lose that one and now you clean slate,
fresh start, good practice today, good shoot around tomorrow, and
now you know what lies ahead. You have to find
a way to contain Trey Young, who is three and
one in playing scenarios, he averages twenty seven points nine
assists a game.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
In playing games. He's going into the play in Hall
of Fame. Trey Young. He's been. But they've been.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
They've done it four times, Jake. They have experience with this.
This is a veteran, a villain who loves coming on
the road and being a spoiler. We have a lot
to worry about with Trey Young tomorrow in the building.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
I know, I feel like the playing tournament in the
Eastern Conference is Chicago, Miami and Atlanta and somebody else
every year. Yes, yes, the same group are just sort
of stuck in that spot. No, you're right, I mean,
we know how dangerous Trey Young is. He's averaged over
twenty eight points a game in three games again this season.
The book you saw exactly what you need to do
last Tuesday at Kia Center. First and foremost, try to
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hold that team to five fast break points like that
was the big key coming out of it going into it,
and obviously that's what Jamal Moseley is going to be
preaching today. And we're one of the best teams in
the league at limiting fast break points. But that is
going to be like a non negotiable. You got to
make sure you are good on that front. I think
Wendell Carter Junior instantly becomes one of the most important players.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
And we know is this team always sort.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Of goes to the lack of size.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
Yes, when Wendell is double doubling, we're a tough team
to beat. And you saw that in some of the
best performances in the last couple of months. The Cleveland game,
he was a monster. He plays well against Atlanta, But
you're right, like that, that's not their strength and so
we got to own the glass. That's something that's important
all season long.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
You're right.
Speaker 6 (09:46):
I look, I think with Trey you gotta expect the worst, right,
I mean, what is he the fourth player of all
in NBA history to average twenty four and eleven.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
For a season. I mean there was.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
This guy is one of one. He's very unique and
as you mentioned, he loves the spotlight.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
He loves the moment. In wrestling, they call it being
the heel.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Right, Yeah, he loves that. He's embraced. Yes, he does well.
So yeah, yet thirty six last year in the play in.
I mean he's he's used to having big games. This
is what he thrives on.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
We talked to Bob Rathbun on FanDuel Sports Network yesterday
and again we come back, we'll talk on the magic
side because because I don't love Polo and Franz, I
you know, they're people smarter than me making these decisions.
I don't love them having not played in six days
going into that game, but that was the decision that
was made.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
And hopefully they're not rusty.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
It's the rust versus rest thing, and those guys might
be incapable of having.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Rust, which is awesome.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
That's what you love about them, and smarter people than
me deciding that they needed that time off and that's
good and they'll be ready for that tomorrow. But this
guy loves this stage and Trey Young has thrived in
this stage. He's had big games in Madison Square Garden,
the biggest stage there is, and he will not be intimidated.
Neither will his teammates, most of which have played in
this game the last couple of years.
Speaker 6 (11:01):
D I just kept going back to what what happens
if it's a meaningless Indiana game and Franz rolls an
ankle and and ends up missing Tuesday. And that was
that was sort of where I defaulted, And that's probably
would go back and forth.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
I was going back and forth you and I. I think,
but you're telling everyone else.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
You don't care. You're telling you're telling everyone else. I
don't care if you rolling. I call like, I don't
think that.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
I think that's what it is, because literally everyone else
played one of those games, right.
Speaker 6 (11:24):
Don't you remember the Bill Parcells stories about Lawrence Taylor
showed up late late to a team meeting.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
He said, when you start the meeting later, it's Laurence
Taylor for crying.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Remember Richardson, Remember there was ice on the floor, ice
on the floor in Tampa in a preseason game, and
they said, well, we're not going to play Dwight and
Jimmie or Rashard, so you're going to start He's like, hell, no,
I'm not going out there. I remember that game so well,
okay for me to get hurt. So no, I I
did listen. I understand the decision. There's no question about it.
I understand it I personally, and I don't know anything
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about anything. I think six days is a lot off,
but I but I listen, they've had they I think
that's definitely we'll see. So that's just something that's just
another thing to keep an eye on. But those guys
are so good that it probably doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Yeah, I think we'll see.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
Like you're right, it could be something where you get
off to a little bit of a slow start. I'm
hoping game you know eighty two and Game eighty three.
Now there isn't rust even available, uh to form, but
you're gonna have to be. You're gonna have to have
fresh legs. That's for darn shirt against this Atlanta team.
So it'll be, you know, we'll dive in a little
bit more to the matchups, but it is you know,
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you can't glean anything.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
From yesterday obviously. No.
Speaker 6 (12:36):
You sort of wrote the book what you need to
do last Tuesday, and you're gonna try to repeat that performance.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Tomorrow is a big day.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
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Speaker 4 (12:52):
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The Magic are back at at the biggest game of
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I'm just going to do a quick assessment. This is
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just going to be a general My call of the
game was the decision to go to Corey Joseph two
weeks ago. Make that guy your starting point guard. To me,
that guy saved your season, Oh, Anthony did it before that,
and then just just bringing some balance to that starting lineup.
He's got seven turnovers as a starter in fifteen games. Right,
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they're ten and five with Corey Joseph as a starter.
Should be should be eleven and four or not for
a miracle three at the buzzer by the Toronto Raptors, right,
so that you would have that opportunity. So he has
been phenomenal and that decision, however, you got there, Jeff
Weltman to bring him in, Jamal Mosley to go there
by necessity. Guys were hurt and him stepping up. Love
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me some Corey Joseph, and that's going to be your
starting point guard going into tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
I hadn't into the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Yeah, I think it's a good call.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
It obviously was something that was sort of done out
of necessity, and I don't know if anybody expected.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
It to look this good.
Speaker 6 (16:10):
But you know, turnovers, and we talk a lot about
Corey's turnovers specifically, but turnovers as a team has been
an issue that's sort of come and gone, and there
have been games where you know, once you get over
fifteen sixteen turnovers, we're not a good enough offensive team
to overcome that. And I think Corey has had a
calming presence across the entire offense.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
He's he somehow has.
Speaker 6 (16:33):
We've somehow sort of captured his personality where we're playing
with pace but under control, and that is what coach
Moseley always wants. We're never going to be Atlanta Chicago,
where we're going going go and pulling the ball out
of the net on makes and pushing, push and pushing,
but figuring out a way to smartly use pace. Trying
to get Franz and Pollo headed downhill or to their
spots yes before defenses are set has been a massive key.
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And so look, he's it's it's difficult because the countings
don't jump off the page at you when you're talking
about Kojo, with the exception of the lack of turnovers,
but anybody who watches.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Him every second.
Speaker 6 (17:08):
Knows that everything has just sort of settled in since
Cojo has been at the Helm. And I don't think
it's a coincidence either that KCP is shooting the ball
better than he has all season long. Now that he's
got somebody in the back court with him that just
sort of has everybody organized and in the right spot.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
He's been awesome.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
Caleb Houston catching the ball on the right spot, Polo
Franz getting the ball at the Elbowl while they're moving
coming off screens. I mean, he just finds everybody at
the right time, and if he doesn't have a direct assist,
it's a hockey assist. Polo and Franz are playing as
well as any duo in the NBA, so that is phenomenal.
Much more on the matchup tomorrow, the Magic and the
Hawks on our edition of Magic Insiders, which will have
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at eleven thirty, and we'll give away a pair of
tickets to the Magic and the Atlanta Hawks tomorrow. The
Ossiola Magic are in action tonight. If you are available
and able to get to Kasimi Ossiola Heritage Park would
love to have you come out there.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
We've got to fill that place up.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
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around the association kind of a bit of a black
Monday right here.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
In the NBA.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
Last year, at this time, the Phoenix Suns fired Frank Vogel,
they brought in Mike Budenholzer. They were worse defensively and offensively,
they had a worse record, they didn't even qualify for
the playing game. That what happened in Phoenix is an
unmitigated disaster, and I don't care. Matt Ishbia came up
there and said, it's like that meme with everything burning
behind you said, we're in a great place. We're in
a great place. I don't know what everybody's talk about.
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We're in a great place. Not this is fine. There's
no issues here. There's nothing to see here. So that
was it, and then turns around and fires Mike Budenholzer,
so he's out. So then they're gonna have their third coach.
Should bring Mike Frank Vogel back in my opinion, but
they're gonna have their third coach in three It could
be Willie Green if he's let go by the New
Orleans Pelicans. New Orleans did let go of their general manager,
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David Griffin is out after six years. He orchestrated the
Anthony Davis deal. He had Zion Williamson fall into his lap.
So your thoughts on those two moves that happened today.
Speaker 6 (19:15):
Yeah, I think I think these these moves make more
sense than Denver firing Mike Malone or even Memphis fighting.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
There were some good jobs available this summer. I'll tell
you that.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
There absolutely are.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
I don't know if Coach Bud's gonna get one, to
be honest with you, it just seems like it never
ends well if an older look he is. He's an
old school grading type personality. Sometimes with the veteran roster
like Phoenix had that works. It just didn't work, and
it seemed like it didn't work from the get go.
There was poison in the well, regardless of who put
it there. It just didn't feel like there were good
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vibes really all season long. And that's not all coach
Bud's fault. Like the Bradley Beal contract is the worst
contract in the NBA. And we all love Bradley Beal,
but he's not the player that he was when he
signed that deal, and Washington was lucky to get off it.
And Phoenix has not only you know, over extended themselves capwise,
they're to the point where they're about to start having
future draft picks frozen because because of the second Apron
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and all of that stuff. It's just stuff that I
barely I have to reach.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
Which fix them because their front office doesn't care about
draft picks, so that they may not care about that
at all, But if you're Mike Budenholzer.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
They might want to, though, Dante, that is the time
that we operate with.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
They should, They absolutely should. They're the only team. They're
the only team in this entire NBA that is not
in the play in, not in the playoffs, and has
no draft picks in the first roundt They're the only
team in the NBA it has nothing that has nothing
happening right now.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
But everything's fine. Nothing to see behind me.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
Look, the bottom line is they have Kevin Durant and
Devin Booker, who is still two of the best ten.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Players probably in the NBA.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
So I do think if they traded KD this summer,
if they trade both of them, they'll be able to
get some of their picks back in the future will
be bright once again. But it was not that long
ago that Frank Vogel and Chris pull and Andre Ayton
were playing in the area in the NBA finals, and
that thing has Look what you have when when new
ownership comes in, the worst thing they can do is
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make a splash. And I'm gonna do this, and I'm
gonna do that. I put it all on Matteshvia's plate.
I honestly, yes, you have to try to build this
stuff organically. And that is why I'm really happy with
our front office that we didn't try to rush it
and we didn't try to short circuit or rebuild. You
have to do it properly. Even if you have a
guy like KD. There's just no way to to sort
of replicate building something together. And they tried to microwave
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it and now look what happened.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Now, look what happens as any as my has coach
Bud ever been fired and everybody comes out and says, boint,
It's just it's just really sad.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
I really want him back.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
He just really sad around here now.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
And do you and I appreciate the grinding you know
the course of the world, of course, about anybody.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
And do you and do you?
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Do you go after Kevin Durant if your coach bud
is that the guy? Like do you? I got I get.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
Use of Nurkics right, you can't stand him, you have
no relationship and you do you? And he did his
darnness to ruin that guy's career. But do you go
after Kevin Durant? Is that the guy you're gonna pick
a fight with if you're him? No, I mean it was,
but shouldn't.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
Be it shouldn't I mean, look, KD is how he
operates on his own, on his own timeline, and we
all appreciate that he is good enough to This goes
back to the Lawrence Taylor.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Off correct to start the meeting list.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Just let Kat do his thing.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
What do you do with you?
Speaker 3 (22:20):
With you?
Speaker 5 (22:20):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Step back over, Durrance shot us up, Carro drills in
and the foal change for a three point quite big
time bag came tort headed.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Back the way. A steal by Franz Fondner to run out.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
The fog and get Mike to it.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Fronz Fagner and the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
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Speaker 3 (00:29):
Over it went down. Now back to Kalon. He's gonna
try another three, take out another.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
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Speaker 3 (00:35):
Whoo.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Magic Insiders is presented by International Diamond Center, your local
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Speaker 5 (00:49):
And welcome every one of this Magic Insiders that has
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here with you. The magic have some closure, We have
some clarity. We know exactly what is going to happen
in our path to the playoffs, which now we've known
for a couple of days now, but we know it
across the entire NBA. We've got a ton to get to.
Eighty two games are in the book for the entire
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NBA sixteen teams. Well make it. I guess now you
got twenty teams with a chance to move on to
be part of the sixteen. So we'll get to the
Magic's path. Some news today in the NBA will break
that down as well. Let you know kind of the
games that lie ahead here. We've got some play in
games that start tomorrow with the Orlando Magic, the Osceola Magic.
Game three of the G League Finals takes place tonight
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at o'clock down in Kassimi, so an opportunity to do that.
But most importantly, the Magic closed out the regular season
last night and they fall to the Atlanta Hawks one
seventeen to one oh five, and in doing so, triple
double for Keaton Wallace, a two way player for the
Atlanta Hawks. Nobody playing in this game, and the ones
that we're playing weren't playing. Fifteen points, eleven rebounds and
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fifteen assists for Keaton Wallace. He leads away for the
Atlanta Hawks. Nineteen for Terrence Man, terrific player. And for
the Magic, they're led by Anthony Black his first career
double double. He gets you twenty points and ten rebounds,
and the second double double of the season, tenth of
his career for Jonathan Isaac twelve points, ten rebounds and
the Magic Fall, and a couple of somewhat impressive back
to back performances for Jet Howard as well, he gets
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you sixteen last night. But Jake, I thought, last night
we are in the books. We finished forty one games
and now eighteen times in Magic history, this team has
finished five hundred or better eighteen of the thirty six
they finished five hundred or better. If they win on Tuesday,
they're making it to the playoffs for the eighteenth time
in franchise history in thirty six years. So we finished
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forty one and forty one on the season, and last
night was an aberration when there were a lot of
guys going through the motions, a lot of guys were sleepwalking,
But the guys that weren't were Jonathan Isaac Anthony Black,
and I thought I loved the approach that those two
guys had in that game because they are gonna they
have an opportunity, those two guys to be X factors.
In my opinion, in the playoffs, and they took that game,
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the last couple of games the right way, and man,
I thought they were fantastic last night.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Yeah, I agree one hundred percent.
Speaker 6 (03:02):
And even going back to Friday in Indiana, you saw
Jonathan Isaac trending upward and heading into the most important
part of the season. He even said after the game
yesterday he said, I wasn't in the greatest shape at
the beginning about that kind of played myself into it.
We talked at the beginning of the year about the
added weight and how it would help his durability over
the course of the season. That's part of it, But
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obviously the other part of it too is a lot
of guys sort of play their way into shape over
the course of the season, and the bottom line with
Jonathan Isaac is he's been available enough.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
To play his way into shape over the course of
the season.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Seventy one games, Jake. That's the second most he's played
in his NBA.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Career most eighteen nineteen was the last.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Play his second year in the league, when he played
seventy five, So that's impressive for it.
Speaker 6 (03:45):
It's it's it is absolutely one of those arrows in
Coach Mosley's quiver, and we saw last year how important
he was down the stretch and into the postseason in
that cap series.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Defensively, that is an ace up the sleeve. I'll use
all the metaphors and the comparisons.
Speaker 6 (04:01):
I mean, he could make a very very big impact
should you get this series, and he could obviously be
huge tomorrow against Atlanta. You mentioned ab one of the
things I liked about AB about Jet and a few
of the guys who were given opportunities over the weekend
they worked on other parts of their game.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Caleb Houston, Yeah, putt the ball on the back, you know.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
Okay, so what are you gonna do where you got
to go out and just get through these games? Work
on your game show a little bit more. I thought Jet,
you know, we were sort of joking like, how many
three is.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Jet gonna get up this weekend? Right twelve?
Speaker 6 (04:33):
Well, he shot seven, I think in each game, but
he did a whole lot of other things, varied his
game a little bit.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Is Jet gonna be a big part of the postseason rotation?
Speaker 6 (04:42):
I doubt it. He's got some guys in front of him.
But that's that's what you want to see. That's progress.
You want to see him working on his game. You
want to see him working on his defense, specifically.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Ab creating with the ball in his hands. I think
was really good.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
But I look at Jonathan Isaac and then the other
thing yesterday d I'm thinking about Okay Isaac his you
know he's coming off the bench now. Wendell is as
firmly entrenched as your starting center. You know you can
use Ji in different places defensively.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Gary Harris shot the heck out of the ball yesterday?
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Did he?
Speaker 6 (05:10):
I don't know eight or nine man rotation, but I
know that Gary is healthy right now. It feels like
he's trusting those legs, trusting his body and playing some
good ball. And that is a guy that you know
what you're gonna get when he's out there on the floor,
especially in a big spot like this. So I was
pretty pleased. Friday was a blast.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Obviously scronged. It was incredible points.
Speaker 6 (05:31):
That was a lot of fun. They were they were postseason,
preseason type of games. Don't don't read too deeply into it,
but I do think he saw some individual performances that
you can be happy about.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Well, and I love the approach. I don't know how
you miscalculate the game. So Trevlyn Queen is not available.
I would have liked to have seen that could have
been a great opportunity for him. But he gave everybody
something to think about, for sure.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
I love that. I loved his comments post game.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
Of course, he torched his former team, the Indiana Pacers,
and he went for twenty five, and he said, this
game gave me the confidence that I'm an NBA player
and we'll see what lies ahead. If it's here or
you're always auditioning for somebody. Hopefully he gets a contract
here and if not, you get a contract from somebody.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
But I thought that was impressive. Would love to have
seen him play.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
You know, if the g League if Ossiola one on Friday,
there's a chance that or on Saturday, there's a chance
of those guys would have been available. I'm sorry, if
they want on Friday, there's a chance for those guys
would have been available to play on Sunday. So it
would have been nice to see Mac McClung and Ethan
Thompson out there as well. You know you're going into
the playoffs. I love what Jet and Caleb did. I
think if you're coach Mosley, you're saying, how are these
guys going to help me defensively? And they allowed more
(06:31):
threes than they made, so I think that might have
hurt him a little bit.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
But I love the offense. I love that they did.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
And now now maybe you say, Okay, we're stagnant offensively.
Can those guys go out there and give me, give
me a shot in the arm. Caleb proven to be
a part of the rotation here of late, so he
might get an opportunity. Anthony Black played eleven minutes in
the playoffs last year, two games, eleven minutes.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Right, this is going to be a whole new world.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
And he he has been a man on fire on
a mission here these last couple of weeks, and I
love that about him, and I think he's going to
have a chance to be an next Well, now we know, right,
the game is set.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
We know the time.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Jac It's gonna be seven thirty tomorrow at Kia Center.
You're gonna have the broadcast right here on ninety six
to nine. In the game, it'll be a nationally televised
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Speaker 4 (07:26):
And why is this game important? Well, if you win tomorrow,
you move on.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
You're in.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
You're the seventh seed and you're gonna face the Boston Celtics.
That's a heck of a reward for getting in. But
you're gonna face the Boston Celtics. If you lose, you
then have to win a winner go home game on Friday,
and that gets you in. Is the eighth seed to
play the Cleveland Cavaliers. So Orlando Magic dot com. We
need you in the building. We need a full loud
Kia Center like we've had the entire year, like we've
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had for several years. And the first thing that my
wife Landa said to me when we got home is
I'm kind of glad that we lost to Atlanta because
I don't feel good having a beat him three times
in a row.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
And I said, Okay, that's not that's not Even though
it's different, people and all that.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
I get it, But you're right, you're not trying to
beat a team three times in a row.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
So Atlanta Alabado, who said that exactly.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
So you lose that one and now you clean slate,
fresh start, good practice today, good shoot around tomorrow, and
now you know what lies ahead. You have to find
a way to contain Trey Young, who is three and
one in playing scenarios, he averages twenty seven points nine
assists a game.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
In playing games. He's going into the play in Hall
of Fame. Trey Young. He's been. But they've been.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
They've done it four times, Jake. They have experience with this.
This is a veteran, a villain who loves coming on
the road and being a spoiler. We have a lot
to worry about with Trey Young tomorrow in the building.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
I know, I feel like the playing tournament in the
Eastern Conference is Chicago, Miami and Atlanta and somebody else
every year. Yes, yes, the same group are just sort
of stuck in that spot. No, you're right, I mean,
we know how dangerous Trey Young is. He's averaged over
twenty eight points a game in three games again this season.
The book you saw exactly what you need to do
last Tuesday at Kia Center. First and foremost, try to
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hold that team to five fast break points like that
was the big key coming out of it going into it,
and obviously that's what Jamal Moseley is going to be
preaching today. And we're one of the best teams in
the league at limiting fast break points. But that is
going to be like a non negotiable. You got to
make sure you are good on that front. I think
Wendell Carter Junior instantly becomes one of the most important players.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
And we know is this team always sort.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Of goes to the lack of size.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
Yes, when Wendell is double doubling, we're a tough team
to beat. And you saw that in some of the
best performances in the last couple of months. The Cleveland game,
he was a monster. He plays well against Atlanta, But
you're right, like that, that's not their strength and so
we got to own the glass. That's something that's important
all season long.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
You're right.
Speaker 6 (09:46):
I look, I think with Trey you gotta expect the worst, right,
I mean, what is he the fourth player of all
in NBA history to average twenty four and eleven.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
For a season. I mean there was.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
This guy is one of one. He's very unique and
as you mentioned, he loves the spotlight.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
He loves the moment. In wrestling, they call it being
the heel.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Right, Yeah, he loves that. He's embraced. Yes, he does well.
So yeah, yet thirty six last year in the play in.
I mean he's he's used to having big games. This
is what he thrives on.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
We talked to Bob Rathbun on FanDuel Sports Network yesterday
and again we come back, we'll talk on the magic
side because because I don't love Polo and Franz, I
you know, they're people smarter than me making these decisions.
I don't love them having not played in six days
going into that game, but that was the decision that
was made.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
And hopefully they're not rusty.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
It's the rust versus rest thing, and those guys might
be incapable of having.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Rust, which is awesome.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
That's what you love about them, and smarter people than
me deciding that they needed that time off and that's
good and they'll be ready for that tomorrow. But this
guy loves this stage and Trey Young has thrived in
this stage. He's had big games in Madison Square Garden,
the biggest stage there is, and he will not be intimidated.
Neither will his teammates, most of which have played in
this game the last couple of years.
Speaker 6 (11:01):
D I just kept going back to what what happens
if it's a meaningless Indiana game and Franz rolls an
ankle and and ends up missing Tuesday. And that was
that was sort of where I defaulted, And that's probably
would go back and forth.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
I was going back and forth you and I. I think,
but you're telling everyone else.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
You don't care. You're telling you're telling everyone else. I
don't care if you rolling. I call like, I don't
think that.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
I think that's what it is, because literally everyone else
played one of those games, right.
Speaker 6 (11:24):
Don't you remember the Bill Parcells stories about Lawrence Taylor
showed up late late to a team meeting.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
He said, when you start the meeting later, it's Laurence
Taylor for crying.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Remember Richardson, Remember there was ice on the floor, ice
on the floor in Tampa in a preseason game, and
they said, well, we're not going to play Dwight and
Jimmie or Rashard, so you're going to start He's like, hell, no,
I'm not going out there. I remember that game so well,
okay for me to get hurt. So no, I I
did listen. I understand the decision. There's no question about it.
I understand it I personally, and I don't know anything
(11:57):
about anything. I think six days is a lot off,
but I but I listen, they've had they I think
that's definitely we'll see. So that's just something that's just
another thing to keep an eye on. But those guys
are so good that it probably doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Yeah, I think we'll see.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
Like you're right, it could be something where you get
off to a little bit of a slow start. I'm
hoping game you know eighty two and Game eighty three.
Now there isn't rust even available, uh to form, but
you're gonna have to be. You're gonna have to have
fresh legs. That's for darn shirt against this Atlanta team.
So it'll be, you know, we'll dive in a little
bit more to the matchups, but it is you know,
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you can't glean anything.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
From yesterday obviously. No.
Speaker 6 (12:36):
You sort of wrote the book what you need to
do last Tuesday, and you're gonna try to repeat that performance.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Tomorrow is a big day.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
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Speaker 4 (12:52):
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I'm just going to do a quick assessment. This is
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just going to be a general My call of the
game was the decision to go to Corey Joseph two
weeks ago. Make that guy your starting point guard. To me,
that guy saved your season, Oh, Anthony did it before that,
and then just just bringing some balance to that starting lineup.
He's got seven turnovers as a starter in fifteen games. Right,
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they're ten and five with Corey Joseph as a starter.
Should be should be eleven and four or not for
a miracle three at the buzzer by the Toronto Raptors, right,
so that you would have that opportunity. So he has
been phenomenal and that decision, however, you got there, Jeff
Weltman to bring him in, Jamal Mosley to go there
by necessity. Guys were hurt and him stepping up. Love
(15:57):
me some Corey Joseph, and that's going to be your
starting point guard going into tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
I hadn't into the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Yeah, I think it's a good call.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
It obviously was something that was sort of done out
of necessity, and I don't know if anybody expected.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
It to look this good.
Speaker 6 (16:10):
But you know, turnovers, and we talk a lot about
Corey's turnovers specifically, but turnovers as a team has been
an issue that's sort of come and gone, and there
have been games where you know, once you get over
fifteen sixteen turnovers, we're not a good enough offensive team
to overcome that. And I think Corey has had a
calming presence across the entire offense.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
He's he somehow has.
Speaker 6 (16:33):
We've somehow sort of captured his personality where we're playing
with pace but under control, and that is what coach
Moseley always wants. We're never going to be Atlanta Chicago,
where we're going going go and pulling the ball out
of the net on makes and pushing, push and pushing,
but figuring out a way to smartly use pace. Trying
to get Franz and Pollo headed downhill or to their
spots yes before defenses are set has been a massive key.
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And so look, he's it's it's difficult because the countings
don't jump off the page at you when you're talking
about Kojo, with the exception of the lack of turnovers,
but anybody who watches.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Him every second.
Speaker 6 (17:08):
Knows that everything has just sort of settled in since
Cojo has been at the Helm. And I don't think
it's a coincidence either that KCP is shooting the ball
better than he has all season long. Now that he's
got somebody in the back court with him that just
sort of has everybody organized and in the right spot.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
He's been awesome.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
Caleb Houston catching the ball on the right spot, Polo
Franz getting the ball at the Elbowl while they're moving
coming off screens. I mean, he just finds everybody at
the right time, and if he doesn't have a direct assist,
it's a hockey assist. Polo and Franz are playing as
well as any duo in the NBA, so that is phenomenal.
Much more on the matchup tomorrow, the Magic and the
Hawks on our edition of Magic Insiders, which will have
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at eleven thirty, and we'll give away a pair of
tickets to the Magic and the Atlanta Hawks tomorrow. The
Ossiola Magic are in action tonight. If you are available
and able to get to Kasimi Ossiola Heritage Park would
love to have you come out there.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
We've got to fill that place up.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
This is Game three, the final game with a g
League championship, and Osciola Mac McClung Ethan Thompson they can
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around the association kind of a bit of a black
Monday right here.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
In the NBA.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
Last year, at this time, the Phoenix Suns fired Frank Vogel,
they brought in Mike Budenholzer. They were worse defensively and offensively,
they had a worse record, they didn't even qualify for
the playing game. That what happened in Phoenix is an
unmitigated disaster, and I don't care. Matt Ishbia came up
there and said, it's like that meme with everything burning
behind you said, we're in a great place. We're in
a great place. I don't know what everybody's talk about.
(18:44):
We're in a great place. Not this is fine. There's
no issues here. There's nothing to see here. So that
was it, and then turns around and fires Mike Budenholzer,
so he's out. So then they're gonna have their third coach.
Should bring Mike Frank Vogel back in my opinion, but
they're gonna have their third coach in three It could
be Willie Green if he's let go by the New
Orleans Pelicans. New Orleans did let go of their general manager,
(19:06):
David Griffin is out after six years. He orchestrated the
Anthony Davis deal. He had Zion Williamson fall into his lap.
So your thoughts on those two moves that happened today.
Speaker 6 (19:15):
Yeah, I think I think these these moves make more
sense than Denver firing Mike Malone or even Memphis fighting.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
There were some good jobs available this summer. I'll tell
you that.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
There absolutely are.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
I don't know if Coach Bud's gonna get one, to
be honest with you, it just seems like it never
ends well if an older look he is. He's an
old school grading type personality. Sometimes with the veteran roster
like Phoenix had that works. It just didn't work, and
it seemed like it didn't work from the get go.
There was poison in the well, regardless of who put
it there. It just didn't feel like there were good
(19:49):
vibes really all season long. And that's not all coach
Bud's fault. Like the Bradley Beal contract is the worst
contract in the NBA. And we all love Bradley Beal,
but he's not the player that he was when he
signed that deal, and Washington was lucky to get off it.
And Phoenix has not only you know, over extended themselves capwise,
they're to the point where they're about to start having
future draft picks frozen because because of the second Apron
(20:12):
and all of that stuff. It's just stuff that I
barely I have to reach.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
Which fix them because their front office doesn't care about
draft picks, so that they may not care about that
at all, But if you're Mike Budenholzer.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
They might want to, though, Dante, that is the time
that we operate with.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
They should, They absolutely should. They're the only team. They're
the only team in this entire NBA that is not
in the play in, not in the playoffs, and has
no draft picks in the first roundt They're the only
team in the NBA it has nothing that has nothing
happening right now.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
But everything's fine. Nothing to see behind me.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
Look, the bottom line is they have Kevin Durant and
Devin Booker, who is still two of the best ten.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Players probably in the NBA.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
So I do think if they traded KD this summer,
if they trade both of them, they'll be able to
get some of their picks back in the future will
be bright once again. But it was not that long
ago that Frank Vogel and Chris pull and Andre Ayton
were playing in the area in the NBA finals, and
that thing has Look what you have when when new
ownership comes in, the worst thing they can do is
(21:10):
make a splash. And I'm gonna do this, and I'm
gonna do that. I put it all on Matteshvia's plate.
I honestly, yes, you have to try to build this
stuff organically. And that is why I'm really happy with
our front office that we didn't try to rush it
and we didn't try to short circuit or rebuild. You
have to do it properly. Even if you have a
guy like KD. There's just no way to to sort
of replicate building something together. And they tried to microwave
(21:32):
it and now look what happened.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Now, look what happens as any as my has coach
Bud ever been fired and everybody comes out and says, boint,
It's just it's just really sad.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
I really want him back.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
He just really sad around here now.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
And do you and I appreciate the grinding you know
the course of the world, of course, about anybody.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
And do you and do you?
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Do you go after Kevin Durant if your coach bud
is that the guy? Like do you? I got I get.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
Use of Nurkics right, you can't stand him, you have
no relationship and you do you? And he did his
darnness to ruin that guy's career. But do you go
after Kevin Durant? Is that the guy you're gonna pick
a fight with if you're him? No, I mean it was,
but shouldn't.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
Be it shouldn't I mean, look, KD is how he
operates on his own, on his own timeline, and we
all appreciate that he is good enough to This goes
back to the Lawrence Taylor.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Off correct to start the meeting list.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Just let Kat do his thing.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
What do you do with you?
Speaker 3 (22:20):
With you?
Speaker 5 (22:20):
That's gonna do it for this edition of Magic Insiders
again tomorrow, we're gonna have Magic Insiders Live at eleven
thirty Orlando Magic YouTube channel.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
We'll have that for you, giving away a pair of
tickets to.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
Tomorrow's playing game, so you're gonna want to make sure
you tune into that, and then you have to go
to Orlantomagic dot com, Orlando Magic dot com and get
your tickets for tomorrow night.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
We need you, we need you in the building
Speaker 5 (22:39):
The play in game, the Magic and the Hawks, and
we'll have that game for you at seven o'clock right here,
ninety six to nine a game
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