Starring Christy Carlson Romano as Ren Stevens in “The Even Stevens Movie”

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Hey, everybody, thank you so much for joining us on
this park Hopper episode. We have just watched the Even
Stephens movie, which is you know, perfectly titled the Even
Stevens Movie, which I thought was was downright perfect for
the title. Frankly, you knew exactly what you were getting.
And we are joined by somebody who I've never met before,
I don't know anything about. I'm kidding, of course, an
old friend of mine, the Kim Possible to my Ron

(00:38):
Stoppable please help us. Welcome Christye carls Eremono, Welcome Christy
to our show. To Magic Wow. Welcoming you to a
podcast is so strange considering that you and I were
hosting the last podcast we did together.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
So it's super weird. It's very cool. I'm very flattery
you guys. First of all, you could not have picked
a better co host in in Sabrina. She is, I know,
so amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
She's great. I am absolutely She's great at everything but
Disney Channel sports, in which in your team sucks at that.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Oh no, he's talking about the Disney Channel games. The
games you will.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
We're too old to have played that.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Well, that's the truth is that we were I was
at the second Olympics ever in Greece. In six.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
You're Inside the Trojan Horse.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
I was, I was so welcome to the show. We
just watched the Even Stevens movie.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Oh my gosh, a lot of the ones that we've
done our musicals. The music in it makes sense, it's
you know, it's great. It is absolutely, hands down, for me,
the funniest one of all of them, all of the
ones we've watched.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
I don't agree.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
Was crying laughing the end when you just got Christy.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Oh that's what's inside.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
I know you think I don't know that. You forget
that I've seen the other side to Christy.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
All of it was just brilliant. It was so funny.
I was crying laughing. I mean just it was so funny,
and the plot twitch the whole time. I'm like, this
movie is amazing. There's only one where I was like
that was iffy, and it was the green screen they
used for the front of the cot.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yeah, some of the special effects weren't very special, but
at the same time, it was Disney's Disney Channel back
in the day. Of course, it's so allowed to get
a break for this, but wait, okay, so let's not
jump too far ahead.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Sorry, I just I love.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
I have to get this out. I have to get
this out. And I think I told you this before.
This is the first ever Even Stephens anything I've ever seen,
so I'd never seen the show. I knew you was
Kim and then us doing live stuff together. So this
was my first foray into Even Stevens in any way,
shape or form. And before we get into that, I

(03:11):
want to find out Even Stevens the show. How did
you find out about this? Was? Was this a regular
audition that came by your your tape?

Speaker 3 (03:20):
I know the answer to this.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
I want to know, but yeah, I want to know,
how did you get the show? Even Stevens.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
You do know the answer to this when we went up.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
First of all, her and I used to live like
down the street from each other.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
I know, because you guys like to live far away
from humanity.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
That was already no. But when we went out to breakfast,
I asked you that question because we talked about the
twenty first floor. We talked about all that stuff, and
then you told me about your experience of getting into
you know, how how the call came and all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
For that, you're like a really good listener.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Man, what you.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
And she see see what I have to work with?

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Can't lie to me, you can, I will bring it
up seventeen years later. I'll be like that one that
one lunch date we went on.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Oh I actually do remember. We had such a good
girl hang that day. It was like in the afternoon
and our kids weren't around. Oh wait, your kids weren't
even born yet. We were talking about mine children. Yes, okay,
so yes, we talked about this green building. The green
building should come up in a lot of people's like

(04:29):
histories in if they haven't anecdotally told you about the
green building, which was thirty eight hundred Alameda.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Yeah, Alameda. Of course I remember the green building.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
Now.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
I was like, what is the green bit and that's
of course that's oh god, yes.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Down the street from the Taco Bell that's had Wills
picture up since nineteen.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
Taco Bell.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Hey, guys, they like totally renovated it and gut it.
And it broke my heart because that particular Taco Ball
was a victory lap anytime I did like a good
audition or something. I don't know if you guys had
the same.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
Sure I had that there was a sandwich place down
the way, which also had lots of celebrities that come there,
and that was my place.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
You don't see that anymore, like they don't know.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
You don't see sandwich places everywhere.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
No, I mean, like with the peatures.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
I know, I know, I know.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Oh I missed him.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
I missed him. I missed this abuse I did?

Speaker 1 (05:28):
I know?

Speaker 3 (05:29):
So did you?

Speaker 1 (05:30):
I mean, was this was just a regular audition? Then?

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Oh no, no, no, okay, so so so even Stevens.
I was fourteen at the time. I had just come
off of doing Lincoln Center slash like Broadway, where I
was doing this like serious show, and I had done
all these like serious movies with like how Hartley and
Woody Allen and all these like weird indie things too,

(05:54):
where I was in a totally different trajectory, okay. And
then my agent, Abby Bluestone, at the time she moved
over from SEM and M to Innovative, which were both
of Powerhouse Children's agencies, And she said, Chris, I think you're,
you know, booking a lot of stuff. You got a
lot of momentum on you, which is so rare in

(06:14):
anyone's career. But I just happened to be in the
biz for like years at that point, so I had
already been pounding the pavements since I was like seven.
So and then I was like, cool, my mom's like,
there's this thing called pilot season. Let's go now, pilot season.
For any of you guys listening who don't really know
about it, it doesn't really exist like it did, right, No.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
It was huge.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
I mean it's you geared up for it.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, you moved across the country for.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
You, did you did. That's where places like the Oakwood
Apartments existed is because you would come out for several
months at a time or a couple months at a time,
and you would, if you were lucky, you would have
auditions every other day for some new pilot that was
coming out. And the thing that was funny was you would,
especially back in the day when I was doing it,
is I first in New York, christ and Arbor from Connecticut,

(07:01):
shout out where, and then when you'd come out to
LA it would be you'd see the same fifteen for
me guys in every audition, and then you'd go to
the next one and there'd be fourteen. And you'd go
to the next one and there'd be thirteen because they'd
be casting one person each time. So by the time
you're you know, you're at the last pilot of the season,
it's you and the four people that haven't gotten to

(07:23):
show that season, like waiting to see if you're going
to book something. So you're watching, you know, the Lord
of the Flies kids being picked off the island one
at a time, but for a good reason, because they're
actually they're getting cast on different things.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
And either way you're gonna end up at Taco Bell, right, yeah, yeah,
you're either really excited and spending six dollars, are really
depressed and give me, give me Chris anyway, So, yeah,
we go out there. I have about I was there
for a month with my mom, and I think we
did stay at the Oqua departments to be honest, or.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Park Points Ocode apartments are a park Point in and now.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
They're called and now it's called like Alcove or something.
They've rebranded it.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
But yeah, well guys, this was like sixty years ago.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Sixty years ago, exactly.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
I am.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
Really good.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
We are an ad.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
There is if you drive around that area, I think
I feel like nothing looks the same anymore, Like what where?

Speaker 1 (08:22):
What?

Speaker 2 (08:23):
So yeah, I agree with you. That valley is very,
very different.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
You're both very young, you're both very young.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Well we'll take it, just take it, okay. So we
did ten auditions. One of them was something called Spivey's
Kid Brother Spivey. That was the original last name for
Stevens Okay, And it was really interesting how fast the
casting process went. I was at Joey Paul Jensen's. Then

(08:51):
I did a like an audition, a callback the next morning.
From there, they told me they wanted me to go
to student or I guess, studio or network, right, and
the network was within like seventy two hours. I was
towards the end of my trip and had already been
through lots of auditions, right, and I was really excited.

(09:13):
I hadn't really, you know, known what to expect, so
my expectations were super low. But then I enter into
thirty eight hundred Dolla Meta and it's a totally different ballgame.
When you've been in New York, you know what competition
looks like, but when you're in the level of you know,
oh my gosh, this is actually Disney. This is an

(09:34):
actual Disney building. And back then the building was extremely
interactive since COVID they've shut down so much of that.
Like Radio Disney was in the lobby, yeah, Radio Disney.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
It's also like right on the line. Yeah, it's it's
like it's like a lot adjacent. So you when you're
parking to go to thirty eight hundred West, you're parking,
you can see the Disney building where the seven Dwarves
are holding up the roof.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
Yeah, the roof. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
So it's like you feel like it's a little bit
of magic. You're you're magic adjacent at thirty eight hundred
at that point, because it's like you're so close to
getting on the lot to where all the magic actually happens.
And yeah, you're right, Radio Disney's there and all that
kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
It's so it share it shook me. So I went
up there, and you go up, up, up, up up,
and then you know, you get in there and then really,
I mean when we did this pilot, they hadn't had
a lot of original programming. So they had the Jersey,
they had Jet Jackson, and they had I don't know,
not much more than that really, And I'm sorry if
I'm forgetting anyone in particular, but.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
The Lizzie McGuire going on, oh no, no.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
No, Lizzie was way after us. Actually really okay, yeah right, yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
And this is ninety nine or two thousand.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
It was ninety nine okay that we did the pilot,
I believe, and then it was like two thousand when
we went because I was well, I don't want to
I don't want to do math.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Guys, I know, sorry, how many isn't this many?

Speaker 2 (10:55):
It's too many? All down, shut the windows, go to bed.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
Wake up seven fteen years younger, please.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Well there's also the thing. Yeah, the thing I remember
most about thirty eight hundred West Alameda is you go
there and before you go upstairs, there's like the coffee
shop down there, so you always get a cup of coffee,
and you like sit in the lobby and you stew
about whatever you have to do in the buildings above you, yes,
check in the check in, they'll let you up.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
Before they let you up the elevators.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
And a sticker, the sticker you put on your body
has Mickey on it, so it does wow, I'm going
to the park. So we get in there and basically
it's Shia and a bunch of other kids, probably Chris
Marquette was probably there because Chris ended up uh later
down the road doing a Christmas episode where he played
like the anti Shia.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
Oh okay, and Chris is a really good.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Friend of mine from New York. So I think we
like definitely saw a lot of familiar faces in there
from New York because like we'll we'll attest to a
lot of people would come in from the East Coast
and they would have these kind of like fresh faces,
not just Australia that that didn't happen back then, but
like now, it was more or less like while the
East Coast kids have like edge to them, and it

(12:09):
was like like, you.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Guys are strong.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
To this day, says that he was always jealous of
these Coast kids, like, oh yeah, the New Yorkers would
roll in and they were putting you.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
Up like they already had the job, they already had it.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Or because we didn't care. We were New York kids,
like we know, we would walk into an audition in
New York and they'd be like your two fat kids
get out and you go and you walk out.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Authority, yeah and la.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
They're like you are so great, Oh my god, that's
the best, and we're like, no, it's not.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
New York was much different.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
We were so edgy.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
We were so edgy.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
Guy, all need to calm it down, all right, just
calm it down, get over it.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
We're over here.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
You guys are a dark cloud.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
No one needs to get over anything because it's magical
rewind pod and.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Lives, yes, it does.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
So basically, they pulled me into a chemistry test with Shia.
Shia had like he was like a Venice beach kid.
Obviously we all know he had like kind of crazy upbringing,
but he had like this two toned hair at the time.
It was actually kind of genius, so that they couldn't
say that he was dark or light haired. He was
just like every color smart. That was a literal genius.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
So he was also short tall, which helps.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
He was short tall.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
He ended up becoming really tall.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Yes, yeah, okay, so we were totally oil and water
and I had come in with a Ralph Laurenz suit
and Matt Dearborn, who was the creator of the show,
had said that was the show. When I saw you
and Shia together in that chemistry read you're like fit
in his vibe and you guys trying to connect with
each other was so awkward that it had to be

(13:50):
the show. So that was kind of from there on
out where they built out these characters to our strengths
and throwing us together at certain points. And the Even
Steven movie was the probably well obviously the last time
before I went off to college, and we were just
not renewed at that point because everyone was getting too old.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Well it's also sixty five and out. We were still
until Kim Possible, which we'll get into at the time.
The Disney rule is you do sixty five episodes and
you are done. That's it. Oh, I don't care what
you I don't care what your ratings are.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Ye first show, first show ever to break that was
Kim Possible. And we got a fourth season. And this
is pre internet, based solely on people writing in letters
wow saying we want another we want another season of
the show. So we got a season four and we're
the first show to ever do that. Everything else, Oh, oh,
you're the number one show in the network. Sixty five episodes. Bye,

(14:42):
thanks for coming even with.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
Their card too, like everything on the channel sixty.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
So did Lizzie not get past three busy?

Speaker 1 (14:50):
I think I think after we got our fourth season.
They Raven's Home like Raven and Raven's Home and then
stuff like that. I think Lizzie McGuire dan, I think
the Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
But I think it's important to note that Disney had
a very they were very conservative with when they were
changing protocols, so like for any there, for any change
to be there, it was extremely important because that period
of time was just so new for them. So yeah,
I mean even Stevens movie almost didn't get made. I
think Lizzie's was about we knew that Lizzy was going

(15:20):
to have a feature film and we were a little jealous.
And I'm not just speaking for myself, I know that
Shaia was very competitive as well, and so we were
kind of always competitive with The Lizzy Show because we
felt that like our jokes were a little bit more
for adults and they had a little bit more of
an enjoyment factor, kind of like with Boy Meets World,

(15:41):
it was like the adults could watch it and the
kids could watch it. Lizzie had a lot more sight gags,
a lot more zaniness, a lot more fun kid stuff.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
Yeah, the cartoon itself definitely made it even right there
feel hybrid.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Oh yeah, I mean, it really was a fantastic show
because Lizzie itself raised it was iconic. Hillary's iconic, and
then like even just hybridizing that cartoon character and her
real life experience was very like Ali mcbeil and like
that was a really important show, but the tones were different.
And so like when when Sabrina you said, like, I

(16:17):
watched it and it was funny. I can trust that
because we weren't going for the kind of laughs that
other shows were going for.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
Yes, no, ye, I mean you could tell, and I
think you're right. I think something like Boy Metrold is
a good example where you know when you're rider had
his son Watcher, Indy was watching when he was five
or six, and he really liked the little the daughter Morgan,
and then you had somebody else who's twelve who might
like Tapanga, and then you had the parents might like
the parents. So there was something for everybody. And I think, again,

(16:45):
I don't know much about even Stevens. I've just seen
the movie, but that's exactly what I got from it.
I mean, when you've got Tim Meadow's doing his thing
and he's really really funny coming in, friend of the
Pod coming.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
Out, so awesome and everyone no idea at all.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
No, I mean it really did. You got an entire
It really did run and kind of run the entire
gamut of jokes. You had ye stuff, and you had
gadgets that kids would love, but at the same time
you have kind of the moral adult stuff going on.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
And yeah, well even just them going booking like a
family trip, that right there totally relates to families and
parents and you know, wanting to take their kids on
some special journey and you know that kind of stuff.
It definitely had something for everyone in the family. It
was not just geared towards young kids.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
So wait, you said that you and Shia were kind
of oil and water as actors when you first met.
Did you get along as people?

Speaker 2 (17:44):
No? Oh, okay, answer that question.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Is she gonna go there?

Speaker 2 (17:53):
There's anything that everyone knows about me? Is that I
am an open book.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
You are You're very vulnerable real.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Some million years ago now, yeah, that's the Internet is
so fast. I can't even believe it. So basically we
were so different that I think, are you know what
it is? Okay? Now you have multiples too, Sabrina, so
you realize everybody has such a different personality when they're young,
that when you're at different age ranges, you may fall

(18:21):
out of communicating with each other. So like like once
I got to a certain age, we weren't gonna be
talking about like anything interrelational wise. We had nothing in
common at certain points in that even just the three
years of filming the series. What I really loved, however,
about shooting the Even Stevens movie was that we actually

(18:43):
became friends again.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
For oh, that's cool.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
For the course of us filming the movie, Shia was
like so sweet to me, that's great, awesome, gat he
was in the best mood. He was like on vacation.
I think he was dating Margo at the time, and
I think he was just just thrilled, like he had
so much fun. They had started dating. I don't know
how long that lasted, but they had started dating when

(19:09):
we wrapped the series, and then I think it extended
through you know, us filming the movie. I mean everyone
was hooking up with somebody, including myself.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Who were you hooking up with?

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Were you hooking up?

Speaker 1 (19:21):
It was josh Right, It was josh Right, Mootai Moto, yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
Yes, yes, yes, and yes. First to get it.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
I did know that because we were next to each
other at a convention. We were like, it's a little
awkward talk, don't talk. Oh my god, Oh my.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
God, it teasing me the whole time.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
You can tell something like.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
That nicest, Oh, Josh, Josh Eaton is one of the
nicest human beings you will ever meet in your life.
He really is.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
I mean, it must be talked about. It seemed pretty
obvious when you guys. I haven't also never seen a
kiss like that all, Miss Christy.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
You my got an issue by you, especially the last
one where you're like it's like she's going in straight up,
open mouth. Oh yeah, you're like.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
To see nothing junior high about that.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
If anyone was still believing that you were just getting
out of junior high and going to high school at
that point, no, oh my god. I didn't even.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Put two or two together. But now as a parent,
I have to start rewatching these things.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Should Yeah, I thought the same thing. I'm like, Wow,
that might be the first tongue we've seen in for sure.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
I was like, A, I can't even think we got
away with that.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
That's what I can't either. I can't either.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
I'm shocked, whacked Wow. Wow, Well there you go.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Now you shot in Hawaii, right.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
Yes, we shot in Hawaii, and then we we were
you know, we hit our b so we ended up
going to the Arboretum and shooting I think a significant portion.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
Of We're shooting on this tropical island for a week,
and then we're shooting in the nursery section of home
depot for the rest of the film. The film, you're
holding down on burial and shooting.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
So everybody living up for the weeks. Real it was
there no air conditioner there for the rest of the time.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Now, what was it a month? How long did you
shoot for? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (21:34):
So it was a month and we were two weeks
in Hawaiian, two weeks in California, and then I literally
flew to my orientation at college right after that, and
it was wild. It was like and that's why it
was so bittersweet to say goodbye to everybody, because it
was like, yeah, I mean, like how everybody has their
last you know, goodbyes on a TV show. But that

(21:56):
was we were essentially gifted that movie because it was
I think even Semens was never a ratings like gold
kind of show.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
Really, really, are you serious?

Speaker 1 (22:09):
I thought it was like one of the channels like
Darlings was even yes.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
It was it was a darling because it was written
so well. Yeah, okay, and the reason it was written
so well we did have the first like six episodes,
we had a whole different writing team, and we then
ended up getting a lot of notes back to the
point where we thought we might not continue the TV show,

(22:36):
and then we ended up getting a different set of writers,
and it was Mark and Dennis. Uh So, Mark Warren
and Dennis Rinsler were of the full House fame, Like,
they were fantastic showrunners and we we were so lucky
to get them as our head writers. So their sensibilities
are very similar, which is why we got Dave Coolier

(22:59):
because if there really relationship to Mark and Dennis and so,
a lot of are like, you know, a lot of
what Shaia's character represented was old comedy, yeah, and so
like everything that he did was supposed to be like
Charlie Chaplin and.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Very big, very broad physical stuff. He's I mean that
so one of the things you clearly notice about the film. Anyway,
I want to, I'm going to go back and watch
the show now because I absolutely enjoyed it. But is
The acting is top notch. Yeah, I mean it depth
but no, but I mean it really is. It's one
of those things where I always knew you could act,
especially because of Kim Possible and all that kind of
stuff like that. But you and Shia together, it just

(23:38):
it works. And it's one of those things where it
is an ensemble cast where it this is going to
sound almost like insulting to the channel, and I'm not
meaning it to be insulting, but it seemed like it
could have been a primetime ABC, NBC, CBS family show

(23:58):
which a lot of dec a lot of stuff on
the Disney Channel has Disney Channel vibes. That's what it's
there for. It's a Disney chant. It's like, oh, that's
clearly a Disney Channel show. You get like kids, Yes,
a Sweet Life of Zach and Cody something that where
it's kind of like, okay, that's a good version of
what that is, whereas you guys had that kind of
show where it's like, oh no, this is just a

(24:19):
good show. It's geared towards kids, but it's well written,
it's well acted, it's well shot. Yeah, it was just good.
I was very pleasantly surprised when I watched the movie, Like,
first of all, it was it was Disney Channel personified
to me, where it was you know, we've been watching
a lot of these. We just did Zombies, we've done
The Descendants, We've done High School Musical, and you can

(24:42):
see the kind of direction the channel is taking obviously
where they're now trying to do these huge, big tent
pole kind of Oh, they're amazing. But then we go
back to we started with like Brink and Johnny Tsunami
and things like that, where this to me seemed like
the best version of that Disney Channel does that happens?

Speaker 3 (25:05):
That was so perfectly put absolutely because like like where it's,
where it's traveled to, where it's evolved to is very
different than the type of what Disney Channel was. And
I mean I love it because that was my Disney Channel,
you know. I mean I watched Disney Channel, and I
when I booked The Cheetah Girls, I was going into

(25:26):
college myself, and so but I watched it all the
way up to that because I liked the shows. I
loved watching the acting and studying what the characters did
all that kind of stuff. But it was so it
just I mean, it's the whole reason why we're doing
this podcast was nostalgia of what the Disney Channel used
to be. Is always fun to go watch, and this
was so perfect. But again, I still think you guys

(25:48):
took it a step farther and could have pride time.
I do. I really right there with Will absolutely, thank.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
You, thank you so much. And then we also and cinematography.
We also had a gentleman named Mark during Powell, who
Mark went on to be the DP for Everyone Hates Chris.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Okay, so similar vibes.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Right where it's like coming of age, but like prime
time coming of age with like you know, high end
film looking cameras. And yeah, we shot on film when
we first started everything, so that's a very different experience thing.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Yeah, or people didn't even go on film. We were
on tape. We weren't even on film even being on ABC,
so which is a whole different it's a whole different thing.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
I was thinking about just different shows that I like,
and thinking about like Friends, but a week of shooting,
what is that kind of like rehearsal schedule? How chaotic
is it? Obviously you guys are doing school in between.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Right, No, So that was more of a sitcom kind
of thing, right, although I don't know how y'all did
it with Cheetahs. We were at Auly in summertime and
I had just graduated high school. So for the film,
I don't think I was doing anything. It was literally, yeah,
for real, it was summer camp.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
No I was talking about for you? For the show?

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Was that?

Speaker 3 (27:15):
What did that feel, regimen? I know the movie was
different because it's totally it's written completely different. It's not
a weekly show type thing. Did that feel like it
was very you knew what to expect every week? Uh?

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Yeah, I think so. I think when you're you know,
in and out, like day in and day out, you're
getting to become a family and you're starting to know
what to expect. However, as my desire to go to
college grew, and you know, I grew up kind of
being told like, you need to go to college, and
then even Gary Marsh himself told me many many times

(27:48):
throughout my Disney career, you need to go to college.
I don't know why he told me that. I don't
know if you told anyone else that he did.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
He loved that. I was still like working my way
through college at really doing the Yeah, he loved that.
He thought that that is amazing to do. Make sure
you know.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
The amount of young actors he probably saw come in,
whether they had great parents or stage parents, whatever it was,
but that would come in, think they were doing this,
I'm going to do this the rest of my life,
not educate themselves, have nothing else to fall back on,
and then that was it. Life over at fourteen. You've
got you know, it's like that's you're doing something. It's
like an athlete who gets hurt or something, and then

(28:25):
where you think your life is going to be isn't
what it is. So that's probably the best advice he
gives every actor is you know, find something else to do.
Educate yourself, do something. Yeah he's pricing a thousand times,
you know.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
Yeah, I mean it was mainly just kind of him saying,
you know, if you want to be in this industry,
learn everything about the industry. Go learn the business side,
learn learn all of it, because that's I mean, that's
why I was in the film and television department at
Chapman and he was like, I love that. Learn learn
the producing side, learn the lighting, like all of that.
Do as much as you can you know so.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
But I was just yeah, Gary was very hands on
with the talent. The Golden Age of Disney wouldn't be
anything without Gary him, and I should say Adam Bonnette
as well, who are very hands on. He ended up
becoming resident, but he was VP for a long time.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Even the executives were like a family because they kind
of all graduated from Like even Corey Lunsford, who was
originally like Adam's assistant, ended up becoming the head of programming. Yes, yeah,
everyone has stayed there for the longest time. And now
I think because Disney Plus has kind of made everything change,
it's nice to see that Gary's back. Gary has come

(29:43):
back to be one of the EPs of the reboot
of the Wizards of Waverley Place, so he's still part
of it. So I don't think these folks who helped
build this channel are quite gonna put it to bed,
you know, like it still exists.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
Because it worked nothing. It's they're trying. Like there's a
lot of stuff now that people are trying. That's the
streaming where everybody thinks, well, the streaming is so popular
and these companies are losing billions of dollars literally, and
you look back at the Golden Age, as you called it,
and they had a I mean people might say, oh,
they were just pumping this stuff out, but yeah, but
they had a system that worked. Yes, you know, you would, Yeah,

(30:20):
they did, and it was they would do a certain
amount of money for that. I mean we were just
talking about. You look at the Even Stevens movie or
some of these other movies that we're looking at, Johnny
Tsunami Brink, the new Zombies movie. The budget for Zombies
four is forty million dollars. Jesus Christ, I know exactly.
That's what I'm saying. That's I mean, when you're talking
about that compared to Disney Channel back in the day,

(30:44):
you are, They're two completely different things. And Disney right
now is in a let's throw money at it kind
of pattern, and they're seeing that that doesn't work. It's
not about how much you spend, it's how you spend
the money.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
So, speaking of Zombie, I'm obsessed with Milo.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yeah, yeah, we are. He's he's all of our pick
to become.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
I've been saying that since like I met him at
some red carpet. I think it was, Oh my god,
where did I meet him? His mom. I've actually I
grew up being in New York doing like staged plays
with his mom. And I don't think she realized because
I was.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
I was like ten between so uber talented.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
She's Cameron Mannheim. If nobody knows Milo's mom, she's he's
technically an apple baby. But in the best way.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Oh yeah, he might have gotten he might have gotten
a little more of an opportunity because of his last name.
But talk about kicking down the door and staying there
because of your talent.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
Like the first Zombies was the first thing. That was
the second thing he had done. One thing was a
cameo type situation on one of his mom's shows. This
is literally the first big thing that he had kills
it and.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
Adam scouted Milo. Adam told me this right before he
left the Channel. He scouted Milo off his talent show
at high school and I think he went to I
think he went to Crossroads or one of those. So
he was performing on a school play and they found Milow.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
That's amazing, Yeah, but amazing.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
Because I mean just oh, I.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
Mean, because he's a star.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
So I'm is very in love with his progress. I
think he's doing a great job and I think his
mom's probably yeah. So back to even students.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
That's all right. We liked going off on tangents, magical tangents,
which is what original was. Original title of the piece
was called let Me ask you a question. You said
you were fourteen when you got the show.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
Okay, so I was fourteen. And then they made us
wait a year to see if it had been testing
properly because they were so new to original programming, and
you know, Jet Jackson was basically Kim Possible, but like
in Canada, they filmed it in Canada, and then the
Jersey had its own thing and it was very sports

(33:00):
related to athletes. They would have athletes come on the
show like all the time, and it was just a
very different that was for boys, you know. But what
they realized quickly, I think, was that they couldn't keep
rerunning Christina Aguilera doing a concert at the at the Park,
and they were like, we need more programming, so we
can't just do reruns of like The Mickey Mouse Club

(33:20):
anymore from the fifties. So they were like, wow, we
need what are we going to do? Right? And you know,
Nickelodeon had been in the original programming game for a while,
but they didn't really know.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
That's where I started. I was even that slimed, for
God's sakes, that's how long ago I was on Nickelodeon.
So yeah, awful, it's amazing awful.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Have they changed the recipe you think or is it
like the same?

Speaker 1 (33:43):
Must have? They must have because when I was there,
I got slimmed on the set. If you can't do
that on television in the eighties, like original Slime, And
it's literally the guy standing on the on the ladder
with the cigar hanging in of his mouth and just
a bucket of stuff. But it was great. It was
some of the magic was gone, but the feeling was
just amazing.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
Oh my gosh, it really was.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
I remember.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
Yeah, that's pretty epic that you out. You can say
that the first Slime.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Were you a fan of the channel before you auditioned
for the show? I mean, did you watch Disney Channel
or no? Was this kind of your intro to the
to everything in the channel?

Speaker 2 (34:20):
I watched Nickelodeon.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Actually, oh wow, yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
I feel like you were too mature for Disney.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
I was. I just know where to telling you right now?
They had nothing on the channel before we no, that's true. Now,
when I started to realize they had this thing called
the Jersey and the Jet Jackson, this is something people
don't know. I went to high school with Lee Thompson Young.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
Oh did you really?

Speaker 2 (34:46):
Oh god, I it really broke my heart when we
lost him, because I literally not only went to high school,
I went to middle school with him at a professional
children's school, and I knew his first girlfriend. She was
my best friend. Lee and I were really close for
a long time. I have tons of pictures with him
prior to him just basically falling off and then showing

(35:06):
back up in the Disney shows. So I actually never
got to see him in the Disney World.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
I think there was one picture that we took. That's right.
We met up and he's just he's I'm so sad
that we've lost him. But I didn't really know anything
about the channel. And by the time I was sixteen.
My sixteenth birthday was the day that we started filming

(35:32):
the actual Even Stevens TV show.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
Wow, well, happy birthday. That's awesome.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Sixteen sixty five episodes. That's how many seasons.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
Then three for us it was three, But I think
I broke it up with Raven and like Lizzie, I
think they messed with the numbers and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure Ravens Show. Raven Show didn't start
even filming until two thousand and two, I think. Yeah,
by that point she had a lot of episodes. I
feel like I remember them going.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
They would start, Yeah, they started after that picking it
up deal and then she came back. So they're they're
doing the Ravens Home now. But yeah, so it was
you come on the channel, you're doing the you know
you're shooting every day. You've now moved to Los Angeles obviously, right,
because you're shooting out here, So your life is different

(36:25):
from the Connecticut girl that you were growing up again,
I know, I know this pattern going down to New
York and auditioning and then you get something and now
you're out in Los Angeles. How I mean other than
just shooting, which obviously is a massive change when you're
sixteen years old, how else did your life change when
you get out here? Did you have to find a
whole new group of friends? Did just you have to

(36:47):
rebuild everything? Cause I know I had to kind of
start over when I moved out here. You've got to
meet new people, start new friends, go to work every day.
How did your day to day life change from Connecticut
to here?

Speaker 2 (36:58):
So I had had come, you know, very rooted in
my life in Connecticut because I was always going to
performing arts school in Manhattan, and so I would go
back and forth every morning. And so I had my
Connecticut friends that were sort of not in the arts
and quote unquote normal, and then I would go and
have like Scarlett Johansson in my class and Lee Thompson young,

(37:19):
you know, and it was like people were there and
then they weren't there because they were filming. So it
was a very different hierarchy, social hierarchy. And so that
was kind of like I had two lives, you know,
I had two totally different identities. When I moved to California,
it was like, oh wow, this this is real, Like
this is the life, and there's really no there's no
way to not leave home from this. So it was

(37:42):
you know, it was definitely starting over. That was a
really great way you put it well. And so I
had to make friends with, you know, the burnout surfer
guys that happened to live in my building complex because
we filmed, We filmed in Marina del Rey.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
Oh okay, so you're kind of out of it's you're
not even in like burb You're not even the part
of it. They're throwing you down there. Yeah, we were
not cool.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
And the reason and the reason why is because our
our producers all grew up in Manhattan Beach and they
were like surfer dudes, which then Shia ended up becoming
a surfer dude, which was really good for him, I think,
and aj Troth as well, who's his best friend, and like,
I actually tried to go surfing a couple times, which
was absolutely awful.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
But I shouldn't do it in the movie.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
That did not.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
I'm the least I'm the least athletic person you will
ever meet.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
I don't know if that's accurate. You seem like you're
relatively coordinated.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
Maybe for dance, like you know steps okay, but like, yeah,
I'm not exactly athletic. So we would try to go surfing.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
You know.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
We even have an episode called Surf's Up because it
was you know, they would try to write to our interests,
like I had a musical episode that was one of
their more historic popular episodes of even Stevens.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
This is the one I keep hearing about where we
were always at conventions, and it's it's knowing that the
moon landing was nineteen sixty nine, right, that's exactly it. Okay, yep.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
And she refilmed it on the at your house. Remember
I had a bunch of my dancers come in. She refilmed,
was it the twentieth anniversary of it or the fifteenth anniversary? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Wait, we need to shout out Sabrina okay, because she
literally I called him like, oh no, and YouTube. Both
of you guys have always been so supportive of me.
You guys are real people, real friends of mine. And
I call both of you and I'm like, will, I'm
starting at YouTube. I need to make a nako with you.
I need to make a taco naco and over my house.

(39:37):
He's like, sure, where do you live. I'm like, Orange County.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
He's like, okay, okay, can I say yes?

Speaker 2 (39:47):
He starts, he comes over. We don't know what we're doing.
He's the first episode of anything I've ever done, on
the first episode of.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
That show, first episode of Vulnerable Too.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
For so, he is my he is my good luck
charm and my beastie forever and also you though, Sabrina,
like I had asked you, we I cold dmd you
and was like, babe, I love you and it's been forever,
but like, how are you? And you were so cool
and so down to earth because a lot of folks,
by the way, you know, sometimes have different relationships to
their past, and like you guys are just so open

(40:18):
and so sweet. So I asked Sabrina, Hey, I'm doing
another YouTube video where I need choreography. Can you please
help me do the choreography and if you have hid dancers,
bring them along. She's like, I've got my cheer people
and I've got my kids. I'm so excited. So she
brings them over my house. We literally set deck and recreate.

(40:40):
I don't know how we did that.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
We all turned out great. I thought it was awesome.
I mean I was so you guys, you and your
film crew and your husband, I mean, everyone just showed up.
I loved to see. What made me so happy was
that you were able to get cast members to come
yeah and read you their.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
Car came back. I haven't seen the original or the
new one. Who came back?

Speaker 3 (41:02):
The link Yeah, it's the principal who's in the movie.
When that and Lauren and Lauren her best friend it's
Larry Victoria.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
Ty wasn't there, but he's around.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
Yeah, it was pretty cool. It was cool and it
was just like, I mean, we just got it done.
I'm like, what do you need? Oh sure, hey, guys,
can we show up? Here's the address? They all came.
Kids thought it was so fun. The parents were stoked.
I mean, you know, they thought they were on like
a full blown movie. Sem it was.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
A vibe and it was a little YouTube. It was
I thought that honestly, guys, like, I don't mean this
to be like, you know, ragging, but that should have
had like ten million views just because I thought it
was the fine. It's just the way YouTube works. But like,
but please go check it out.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
If it is pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Okay, yeah, I'll have to. I'll have to see that.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
So what I mean, speaking of nostalgia, what is it like?
What is your opinion on why the d coms have
really just like turned on this level of relevance and
nostalgia that so many people are are loving. I mean
it's like, you know, if you click on one d
com on your Disney Plus, then it's like a flood

(42:18):
of everything. What's your opinion on that.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
I have a sort of complex opinion about this, and
I'm glad you guys asked, so buckle up. Nostalgia really
triggers people, and it triggers them either super positively or
sometimes it can be super negative based on whatever they
were going through as a kid. Sure, I kind of
came into the idea of nostalgia from when Will and

(42:43):
I had so much success on comic cons and seeing
how people wanted us to link up and like collab
and you know, YouTube had been really big for a
long time. But I never really realized, Okay, well we're
traditional talent, right, Like we're actors that usually show up
to set, and we're not creators. We don't do our
own thing or create a podcast or something like that.

(43:04):
So when we started playing around with this world, whether
it's podcasting or videos, it was like, well, why are
we doing this? What value are we giving people? And like,
nostalgia is inherently valuable to someone? I agree, And so
it's it's a complex. You know, I didn't think the

(43:25):
conversation would be as complex. But I can understand why
some people have good things to say and bad things
to say and and really it's it's everyone, you know,
everyone has their own opinion about it. But personally, I've
been so blessed to have so much you know, positive
experience that I'm I'm trying to hand down to my daughters.
And you know, our Avatar is Campossible on Disney Plus.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
And to me, there's no Stoppable. There's no ron Stoppable.
For the record, there is one there. I got no Avatar. No,
did you chet? I think I'm star Lord? I think
I have my star Lord from my fair enough. Yeah,
it's not the same. It's not the same. There's no
ron Ron.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
Let me let me write, let me start my strongly
worded letter.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
Yeah, I got Are you guys gonna do the Kimpossible movie?
Which one are you gonna do? And like, how's that
gonna happen?

Speaker 1 (44:23):
Well, yeah, we're gonna. We're also gonna do Kelly y.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
I'm I'm, you know, just trying to be patient of
when that gets on the schedule, because that, my friend
was really before we ever, I don't think we had
even met at that point when I was just like, damn,
you were stellar in that movie, but we'll have to
have you back for that whole one. That we can't,
can't get in, and Will's not seen it.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
I'm sure of it, and of course no, he's gonna
rasp me.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
Am I gonna You are so good in this movie.
You were so good in the one last one. I
just saw your.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
I'm older, I'm about I'm like eighteen years old when
you just.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
Oh my god, you're ancient at that point, I'm ancient.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
I'm like so aged out. And then the one that
you're gonna watch, I'm like sixteen.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
It's so cute.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
And I was also dating a co star and oh god,
you were dating looking for who did you get?

Speaker 1 (45:18):
Well, no, we'll save it. We'll say, okay, say.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
We'll save it the internet.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
But you guys, yeah, you guys can. We'll talk about
that later.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
We have to talk a little bit about Kim Possible.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
Yes, always a favorite topic.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
Forever television program that you and I did together back
in the day. Did we start in two thousand and three?

Speaker 2 (45:44):
I was I was seventeen when I saw Kim. When
I saw her, you know picture essentially, so when I
was pulled into La Studios for the audition or something,
we didn't have a chemistry read did we?

Speaker 3 (45:57):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (45:57):
We did what did you think then we had then
we did an entire episode together? Uh huh, yeah we did,
which we did the pilot episode together, which I think
was just to see if you and I were going
to work out.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
It was an animatic it was Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
I immediately went to Gary and everybody at the channel
was like, get anybody but her?

Speaker 3 (46:14):
Yeah me.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
Awful, awful. No, we got along very I mean again,
the thing that people don't understand is for the four
years that we did, how many episodes we actually record together?

Speaker 3 (46:25):
Five? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (46:26):
Maybe like nothing because you went you were at school.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
Yeah, that was gonna be. That was gonna be my question.
How will you were still stationed here in l A?

Speaker 1 (46:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (46:36):
What what was your setup to do that? I mean,
was it a big deal for them to get you
into being able to do that across the country or
was it problem?

Speaker 2 (46:45):
Yeah, no, it was a big deal. I think if
they were to bring it back this time, I would
do everything in my power to get to California and
do it in person. I would be so dedicated to
that whole process and I want to be in the
room with Will and like, I just think, you know,
ki is Kim is not dead in my opinion. I
think Kim has still to this day. I just saw

(47:08):
this amazing TikTok that made People magazine where this girl,
this teacher decorated her whole science.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
Oh you sent me something about that. It's totally cool.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Yeah, it was so cool. I mean, she's just so alive.
Her legacy is is not her? I should say, well,
I mean it's her technically her show. But there would
be no Campossible without Ron Stopple. That's just it.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
Well, it's the two that together was what worked.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
And I feel the same with when it comes to
even Stevens, there would be no like Lewis without Wren.
And also the family because Donna, Pascal, Tom Virtue who
played the dad, and then Nick Spano and even Beans
Beans guys.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
No that everybody was great again, the cast, it's one
of those things where when you see the entire cast together,
it just works. Everybody. Everybody is cast really really well
on a well written Show's that's the thing that you
when you're watching any show, I don't care what it is, Seinfeld, Friends, Mash,
any show you can name, you know, film shows, e

(48:12):
er whatever. Very very rarely are you like, Wow, I
don't like those two characters like that never happened. You
look at you might like, oh I hate that character,
but in a way where you actually love it. Where
the casting, When that's there and you've got the ensemble,
you're ninety percent of the way from getting to getting
a good television show. You guys are great. I mean,
everybody was great.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
Everyone brings their a game right, and it just makes
it so sit back, have a good time, get some popcorn,
chill out, and enjoy yourself.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
And a lot of the thing with Shia, working with
Shia was that he was such an improv artist and
a comedian that people don't really see that part of
him a lot. And he was just completely unbridled comic
at that point, Like he was just fully funny, fully
funny all the time. The only time that he's really
kind of serious, and that whole movie is when he's

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sitting there with me and saying goodbye, and it was
actually like.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
And one time with his mom, which was a very
sweet like are you actually mad at me for knocking
down the.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
Oh yeah, yeah, that was a good and he.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
Just really you could see that he was going to
have a career so clearly after even Stevens because he
just had so much range and he carried. Honestly, he
carried that show in I would say three quarters of
it and then the rest of it was either my
character needing to be an actual person, girl growing up
kind of thing, and then the ensemble, you know, everyone

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bouncing all of each other. But I mean he did.
I mean, he carried the show and he deserved. He
got an Emmy for that show. Yeah, as we're talking
like when he was like a young guy.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
So well deserved because he's just there.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
You wish she'd come out with something that showed.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
I want him to go back to that, but I
don't know. Watching it, I go.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
God, I forgot he. I mean he's obviously he has
comic moments in a lot of it, but that just
just I mean, outrageous character. I'd love for him to
go back to that.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
Yeah, he's too cool.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
For it now. It feels like he's like that movie star,
you know, But man, he was amazing. I just kept
kept going. I forgot how funny he was because I
got to hang out with him quite a bit when
he was dating Keighley, and it was he was just funny.
And did he ever? Did he rap on set? With
you a lot all the time. This kid would stop,
never stop rapping.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
It was just like I bet he was trying to
impress Keeley. Though I'm sure.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
Yes he was such a I just don't have to
say it. Stop rapping, it stop it.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
I wonder, I wonder if he was dating Margot and
then ended up dating Keeley. That man has dated everybody
in Hollywood, so like, I don't.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
Know Himy Keeley had a pretty good on and off
relationship for a while, and they met on which you
were at the premiere for the Cheetah Girls. They met
that night wait in New York. Yeah, remember when we
were all in that big someone's room. I don't remember.
We were all in mine? Was it yours?

Speaker 2 (51:05):
And it was like was on Alisa? There was on
a Lisa there? Yes, Okay, so this was a big night.
I know a lot about that night. I don't remember
because I ended up not remembering a lot of that night.
But the Disney Channel kid parties, these.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
Are the stories I want. I'm just sitting quietly. Why
did you not remember that night? Was there drinking at
the Disney Channel party?

Speaker 2 (51:28):
It wasn't the Disney Channel party. It was a hotel party.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
Yes, it wasn't. I was in college. Hours.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
Yeah, I was in college, and it was I never
got to hang out with any of them, and it
was like, we're in New York. We're all like, you know,
stuck in this hotel. We have to hang out. So
we had this cool hotel party and I just remember
on a Lisa telling me a lot about that night
that I don't remember.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
So, yeah, it was a fun party. Though I watch
some of that hanging out, I.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
Want you don't get that, that's no, because you will
bring it up in every single episode from here on out.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
I do not think he hooked who, come on? Who
hooked up with?

Speaker 3 (52:07):
Who?

Speaker 1 (52:07):
You know? You got it? Who hooked?

Speaker 2 (52:08):
I don't remember.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
You know, definitely connected. I don't think they hooked up,
but they definitely connected. Mikey was there from Yeah, Mike
eliorieda he died also, Yeah, he's also unfortunately not with
us anymore.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
He was amazing.

Speaker 3 (52:28):
He was in Star of the Jersey. We dated, did you?
I bet he's so funny that him and Shia together.
They were besties for like a long time. I think
the Cheetah Girls movie was the first like premiere they
had really done where they got all so much of
the you know.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
Last they knew half of these stories that you guys
are throwing.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
I didn't do anything that other teenagers weren't doing, I think,
and and honestly, I remember my date from that night.
By the way, my date from that night is now
married to Paris Holton. Wow. Wow, y'all are getting the
exclusive we are.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
This is amazing. You and I only hung out even
we were doing Kimpossible one time, and that was in.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
London and we had a blast.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
Remember we had a ton of fun. Yeah yeah, of
that night too, Yeah you did.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
I didn't. I didn't because my mom was in my
hotel room. But you found a beautiful VM like she's
she was a host.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
Yeah yeah, yeah, from Disney Channel. Okay she was wow. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
But so this is the thing too, and I remember
connecting with you that night was because at that point
we were the oldest. Everyone was pretty much younger. Annalyse was,
but most of their cast was a little bit younger,
you know, I mean I was in college. There was
a couple of us that and so we kind of
congregated and then you know, when the littles wanted to

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come around, we were like no, I don't think you can.
What do you got?

Speaker 1 (53:57):
What are you guys doing in this room? Wow?

Speaker 3 (53:59):
Like don't know the pass?

Speaker 1 (54:04):
All right, Well we have to wrap it up now, unfortunately,
Christ Okay.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
We've got other movies that I can.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
Yeah, you're going to come back to come You have
to come back to come Back Cadet Kelly, and you're
going to come back for Kim Possible. I have one statement.
The final statement is the next time. I want to
get into really what it was like for you as
a child actor and if you would recommend it to
other people.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
Really I do, because the transition I know me right now.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
I know the transition can be tough, but I want
to talk about it.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
For the record, our producers put together about sixty different
questions for you. I think I got to two and
then we went off on all differents.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
I just hung out, you know.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
Yeah, So that's okay. Though, that's okay. We needed to
do that. But you need to come back again because
we have so much more.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
To cover before she goes. We have to ask the
question that we have unfortunately not done with all of ours.
What is your favorite d com? If you had to pick,
what would be your favorite past or present?

Speaker 1 (55:00):
What is your Yeah, I know it have been possible
because of the voices.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
They were amazing. I mean it's hard. I mean I
remember Ali Kat's Strike because I thought the guy was cute.
He's totally my type. By the if you're seeing are
we seeing a type kind of a little bit, So,

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I don't know. I think it's hard to pick. I
I loved Johnny Tsunami. I thought that was a lot
of fun because Brandon Baker is a friend, and I think.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
He just got married. He just finally not he did
we when we interviewed, he was still engaged. They just
got married the last couple of years. His ceremony was
so cute and then the whole the whole group they
went to like a ravine of some sort and we're
jumping off rocks. It's so cute.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
Yeah, because Brandon, he he is like a minute a
minister or something like he can marry people in Colorado,
which is like so on brand with Johnny Tsunami.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
So I know, I know, Oh my god, Kyle, are
you talking about Kyle Schmid? Is that what you're talking
about from Ali Cat Strike?

Speaker 2 (56:11):
Yeah, I guess that's met him.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
The Girl's movie.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
He looks just he looks kind of like your husband.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
Sorry, okay, to be with my husband totally.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
Looks like your husband. It's so funny.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
Oh my, but wait, why was Kyle the love interest
in the Cheetah Girls first movie? What do you a couple?
Tell him back at the No, you saw him back
at the at the premiere? Then he was there, right.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
I guess I was blinded by my data at the time.

Speaker 3 (56:42):
I don't really know.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
Again, don't remember a lot from that.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
I say, maybe you did hook up with him?

Speaker 2 (56:48):
No, I was with.

Speaker 3 (56:50):
He's from Toronto. He's from Toronto, so.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
I honestly can't.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
I can't.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
Let's ask me next time. I'll be more prepared.

Speaker 3 (56:59):
Let's just pitcher. Why does that look like your husband? Quick?

Speaker 1 (57:02):
That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
It does I have a type and I married him.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
It's kind of I would think I'm putting your category
for your type is now being called ruggish boy band?
Is I think going to be your type? Because I
think that's what it is.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
I love it. I love it, I love it well.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
I love you. Thank you for joining us.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
I love you, guys.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
Miss seeing you. You've moved away even farther, so I
don't get to see you at all anymore. And now
we're not doing our podcast together anymore, so I really
don't get to see it all anymore. I can tell
you that the voiceover actress that won the contest is
working all the time, so CESD loves her and she's
working all the time. So we did something very good.
There's a great legacy to that show that we launched

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somebody's career and she's killing it, which is which is
very cool.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
And I just want to mention I do just want
to mention she is vision impaired, which is really making her.
I feel like such a standout talent in a sea
of people who would probably take certain kinds of opportunities
for granted. I feel like she really earned her place
and continues to earn her place. So that's fantastic. I'm
so glad. I'm so glad that she's she's just the best,

(58:14):
so good.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
He's doing great good. But yes, hopefully connect Kelly will
suck so we have something to really trash you on,
because this was a good movie.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
Like this movie, I want you to trash me on
it actually if you feel like that, I want you
to last fifteen minutes when you're going to let me
tell you that was me and my rage. My rage
was festering for years with trying to be like you know,
like trying to deal with Shia and like trying to

(58:42):
have him be a can and grow up and then
like have to be number two on the call sheet
and then like, oh my god, I gotta get good grades.
And I was Ren Stevens in a lot of ways.
So like when you see me freak out, I feel
like it was just so cathartic that they were like,
let's let her freak out.

Speaker 3 (58:57):
Let's let's let her go.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
Sabrina, if you ever really want to see Christy freak out,
get a nerf gun, sit near her at a convention.
By about the third dart, you see the dragon come out. Great,
I just knock it off. The mom and mama bear
came out and it was it was hysterical.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
Yeah, it was ready. I missed doing cons with you,
but Sabrina, I love you. And if you guys come
to Austin where I live, please just let me know
and I will.

Speaker 3 (59:29):
You know, my husband's there quite a bit because he
that's part of his territory for his job with sales. Oh,
he loves it. There great, And I mean again, I've
said this to well. I feel like I could relocate anywhere.
I can make friends and I like finding new places,
like to do things restaurants.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Yeah, are moving to Austin.

Speaker 3 (59:50):
What I'm saying I could? Okay, you know, you never know.
I'm just saying I could do this in Austin. Why not?

Speaker 1 (59:55):
Yes, you exactly, Yes you can.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
I got you covered if you're going to come this
all right.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
So next time, Kelly, okay, yes, and you're gonna join
us and we want to get more and think about
more stories that you shouldn't tell us, and we'll cut
out all all the fun stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
Okay, there with Hillary?

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
And yes, I bet I bet there is. I bet
there is because your guys' age difference was what, oh god,
four years.

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
But I was super mature and she was super mature.
So it was like we got along so well, we
were best.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
Oh great, we'll save it, save it. I don't want
to know any of this. I still think you guys
hate each other and the movie's gonna suck. That's how
I think. All right, thank you, and we will join
you next time.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
Okay, bye, young girl, think bye Christy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
Oh my, it's real. I've known her for twenty years.
It's so funny that we come back and there she is.
But yes, thank you all for joining us. That was
a ton of fun. And you can join us over
on the PODNTS World feed next time, where we are
going to be watching Bad Hair Day, which I think
is about someone having a ad hair day. That's the

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most I know about it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
Well, with the with the d coms, you never know,
you never know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
Yeah, that could be about it. You Andicorn, like, we
have no idea something to you just thought about the
thirteenth year two.

Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
Didn't I did too?

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
Yeah, exactly. Well, thank you all so much for joining us,
and thank you Christy for joining us. This will be
the first of many because she is of course Disney Royalty,
and she'll be back when we talk about you know,
Kim Possible or Connect Kelly or all the other stuff
that we discussed. So until then, be nice to each other. Bye, everybody.