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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, well, well, no, that's not the normal voice. Because
the guys are on Christmas break this week, so please
enjoy this best of twenty twenty four episode that features
a blend of fun conversations with the athletics Mode de
Quille Ndscapes, Martins Johnson, comedian Megan Gaily, writer creator Extraordinaire
Jasmine Watkins, Sports Better and analysts Jamison Welch and comedian
(00:22):
Matt Leeb.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Welcome to the show. I guess we should just start
talking at the state of.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
The Milwaukee Bucks, you know, four and six over the
last ten. I'm like, it is everything Okay, I was
asking Jabi before this, I'm like, is this panic time
or is this a doc Rivers bias?
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (00:43):
Let me let me just start by saying Jabari did
not tell me we'd be talking to Bucks, and if
he had to that I would not come on here.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
For me. But uh, yeah, it's not good.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Is the best way to put it. Like I said,
they're two and five. I think, yeah, I got there.
They weren't playing exactly great before, but at least the
record was better. So before it was the process was bad,
but the results were great, and now the results are bad.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
And according to people in Milwaukee, the process is great.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
I missed some of the games, but like if you're losing,
I don't think the process is all that great. But
for the game I saw last I don't remember. I
think that was the Hornets, which whatever.
Speaker 6 (01:27):
But when we saw the Nasty who's some respect on
the nastas his name?
Speaker 5 (01:38):
I noticed people like to pick on him, but uh, yeah,
he shows you can't. Actually he's a real NBA player,
just the fifteenth man.
Speaker 7 (01:46):
Yeah, I gotta say, like, just just so I'm a
Sixers fan. I remember when we exported James Harden to
the Clippers. They had a rough start and then the
seventy six ERSNSS kind of washed off of him through repetition,
and now they're one of the best teams in the league.
(02:07):
So I will just say sometimes it takes a seventy
six Ers export a couple reps to just like get
the negative.
Speaker 8 (02:16):
Energy off of them.
Speaker 7 (02:18):
And so I would give yourself a little bit of time,
maybe a couple more games, and then you're gonna go
on like a wild winning streak.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
That's Is this a metaphor about Pat Bait or Doc Rivers?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
The Doc Rivers doctor.
Speaker 7 (02:34):
Yeah, yeah, because yeah, I mean I remember the last time,
I was like, see when James Harden went there, I
was like, see.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
It's he's not that, and then of course he's.
Speaker 8 (02:45):
Really good.
Speaker 9 (02:46):
Yeah, And I.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Knew he was good. I knew he was good last season.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
Counter I mean, we've seen James Harden be great in
the regular season and then it's the same most story
and playoffs. So like, you know, wait until June before
you completely buy into your theory that he watched all
the seventy six ers off of him. But yeah, it's
not great for the Bucks that you have to not
only fire a coach midseason, but then hire a completely
(03:15):
new one.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
I didn't even go to the interim route. There was like, no,
we're gonna completely.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Clean break yeah clean.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Blake replaced everything with Doc Rivers, which I mean.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
Obviously he's had success if you win championship in NBA only,
but so many people can say that. But at the
same time, I don't know how to put this other
than I don't like his vibe.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I believe Doc Rivers a few I don't.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
I'm just kidding, But I mean, even how he got
here if you believe the athletics reporting, but if he can,
if we can give it some time.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Seven games is not enough, I don't think.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
I mean, Adrian Griffin got thirties to my game, so
you know, give it some time.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
But I didn't like what I.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
Saw in the beginning of the season, even when they
went on that win streak with a lot of those
like one of one of those games I believe was
the one and Dame hit the game winner. So there's
a lot to want more from this team. Obviously, the
partnership of him and Dame, the health of christ Middleton
is brook Lopin is still the defensive star wark.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
It's still a question.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
But if they have stability now, if the players believe
in their coach, which it was clear even before day
one it felt like that they did not believe in
Adrian Griffin, then actually there can be some optimism.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
But until then it looks rough.
Speaker 8 (04:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
You remember that shim machine material that all the basketball
shorts are made of in the nineties, that like if
you had a cat and it arrently scratched, it like
ruined the.
Speaker 10 (04:52):
Entire it was like one thread and the whole thing
instead it's like scrunched on the side.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I remember when she brought it back for Rod. It
had one of those scratches in it, and I'm like, okay,
so this is why I was at ross. But I
was like so in love with it because I was like, yes,
I am part of the world is mine, which is
what stood for the Twism movement.
Speaker 9 (05:12):
Yeah, he had.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
I mean, Shaq was just such a like you know,
like in the era of the big superstars, like with
Michael Jordan taking up all the oxygen, like having a
big guy like Shaq who felt like a fun, lovable
kid whose gigantic shoe was in every mall in America
for some reason because everyone's like, get a loaded of
this guy's foot.
Speaker 7 (05:32):
Yes, yeah, and became like the number one novelty in America,
like yeah, surpassing Giant ball of string.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
It was like shack shoe.
Speaker 9 (05:41):
Yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 10 (05:43):
It was like roadside attraction famous, Like people were just like,
look look at this freak, and it was. It was
crazy too because like in the era of Michael Jordan,
which he is taking up all of the space to
even have another superstar who also so you know had
uh you know, he was a rebot guy, so you know,
(06:05):
he had his silhouette on there they tried to make.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
That bad hanging.
Speaker 10 (06:10):
Yeah, but you know, and and he's he hadn't he
hadn't even won a championship yet, you know, it took him.
Speaker 9 (06:16):
You know a few years.
Speaker 10 (06:17):
He had gone to the finals with the Magic, but
he had not won a ring. He was beaten by uh,
you know, like better centers.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (06:29):
Yeah, and still he was like this big superstar. So
when he went to the Lakers, I was like, this
is cool. But also, you know, all y'all are bandwagon.
I've loved the Lakers ever since. My middle school teacher
teacher was Elton Campbell's brother.
Speaker 11 (06:46):
He was.
Speaker 9 (06:48):
Tall, Yeah, very tall. That was the other thing that
I believe that.
Speaker 8 (06:52):
So I'm gonna I'm gonna believe it.
Speaker 10 (06:54):
And I also was like, Eldon is a is you know,
this guy is a weird accent, But Eldon does seem
like the type of name you would have if your
whole fan les would name yeah, yes, like a transit
Atlantic accent. Family would name their kid elder right right,
And so yeah, so I was always like, you know,
(07:14):
Kobe doesn't get respect. Like everyone's buying shack albums, nobody's
buying thug poetry and I was like, you know, he's
a he's not a great rapper, but he can rap
an Italian?
Speaker 9 (07:26):
Why do people not respect this guy? One that he
won the dunk contest? You know? Uh?
Speaker 8 (07:31):
And then when the dunk contest.
Speaker 9 (07:32):
Did did Kobe not win the dunk contest? Am I crazy?
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I thought he did? That was like his second or first?
Speaker 12 (07:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (07:40):
I thought he did, like the first first year? How
is that more hygen that he It was iconic? He
he uh, he has like his what was his move?
It was oh man, it's been so long, but it
was like, he definitely dunked the ball good.
Speaker 9 (07:57):
I remember, all right.
Speaker 8 (07:59):
I just wanted to make sure he dunked the ball good.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Here's a refresher for Kobe's dunk contest in ninety ninety. So.
The thing that I remember was that he wore his
shooting shirt for it, which was very like, oh okay,
we liked that. And I remember wanting a shooting shirt.
Speaker 6 (08:13):
Eighteen years old six six yeah, yeah, okay, it's eighteen
years old.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Here's this but us he got second.
Speaker 9 (08:22):
Year okay, yeah, eighteen years old, his second year exactly. Ooh,
big went down between.
Speaker 8 (08:31):
His legs and got them, wore his shooting shirt the
whole time.
Speaker 9 (08:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like that casual casual.
Speaker 8 (08:39):
Casual.
Speaker 7 (08:40):
Also kind of a mistake because why why is this
not more iconic?
Speaker 9 (08:45):
You say, a mistake, but you know, but he didn't win.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
The shooting shirt comes off, Oh.
Speaker 9 (08:53):
Dude, then they'll put it one more time.
Speaker 10 (08:55):
Oh yeah, and then selext no, but it's the big show.
His last one I think was, oh yeah, Brandy's in
the audience.
Speaker 9 (09:05):
Is important.
Speaker 13 (09:07):
That's what.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
He took Brandy to the prom right, he did take he.
Speaker 9 (09:10):
Did, he took Brandy to the prompt. And then what
was this one?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
He tried to go for a bounce between the legs.
Speaker 9 (09:20):
That's a good game for him. That that was a
I don't want to see that replay is not nice.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
First all right, so here's the last one we saw.
We saw Michael Finley.
Speaker 10 (09:29):
Already definitely like the most iconic one and yeah, oh yeah,
this is like pumped back.
Speaker 9 (09:38):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 10 (09:40):
So he he proved himself to be athletically like one
of the greatest. And then you know, everyone just called
him a ballhog for his first like three four years
in the NBA, which was true.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
You know, he averaged five steals from his teammates.
Speaker 7 (10:00):
Yeah it's not just that, b Yeah, but it was.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
But no, but you could see that belief in him too.
I remember like one of the playoff series against the
Jazz and he was throwing up so many shots that
I was like, dude, relax, like, yeah, you aren't the
answer to this right now. But you could tell that,
like that turned into what Kobe then became, which is
like that real self belief in himself and be like
I'm not I'm not serious.
Speaker 9 (10:24):
I'm like, I'm not joking.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
I will I will negate every contribution from this other
team by myself if I had to. And yeah, that
was a thing that was a little bit. I remember
being frustrated as a young fan because it just didn't
feel like it his belief was matching what was showing
up on the court. But then when those things were reconciled.
Speaker 14 (10:43):
Yeah, and once everything started to come together, once they
were running the triangle, once they you know, got uh
Phil Jackson immediately were winning championships, and he was still
you know, people were still you know, talking trash.
Speaker 10 (11:00):
I was like, you're wrong, Kobe's Jordan. And then like
Lebron James came out in two thousand and three and
I was like, whoa Kobe?
Speaker 9 (11:09):
I still hate Jordans.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I still don't like Lebron from just that, because.
Speaker 10 (11:14):
From people trying to shift the focus away from my
man Kobe.
Speaker 7 (11:18):
And this is a this is for people who don't
live in La. This is how most Lakers fans at least.
Speaker 8 (11:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (11:27):
A sickness that most Lakers fans have is they are
they resent that Lebron came to the Lakers and won
a championship.
Speaker 9 (11:34):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah hurt.
Speaker 7 (11:35):
They're like, I hate this guy, like he's just here,
he just wants to win one with our jersey on
they Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Nakers fans coined the term Mickey Mouse.
Speaker 7 (11:48):
Branding for Disneyland, all we don't like this guy.
Speaker 9 (11:54):
A question that just.
Speaker 7 (11:54):
Occurred to me about Shack because arguably he went into
the profession and where the thing that is most notable
about him is the least remarkable, which is like he's
around other people who are huge and he like makes
them look small by comparison, like Shaq is. I don't
(12:15):
think people understand how big Shack is and more just
huge in every direction. Do we think he would have
had a like he would have been world famous if
he just like never picked up a basketball.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Just look at this big guy.
Speaker 7 (12:34):
He wouldn't be a big guy who's like incredibly like
charismatic and cool and like.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Yes, wait, so in this alternate universe, where where does
he what's his path goes? Still?
Speaker 7 (12:47):
I don't know if he goes to LSU, but like,
wwe maybe.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Oh interesting. I could see him being like a Andre
the Giant.
Speaker 10 (12:56):
The Giant people by the way, forget how big Andre
the Giant was.
Speaker 9 (13:00):
He's another one.
Speaker 10 (13:01):
It was like you when you think he's a giant,
he's just like, ah, there's giants in the NBA.
Speaker 9 (13:06):
No, he's like Jack.
Speaker 8 (13:07):
He's like, yeah, watch holding hand coke and have your
mind blown.
Speaker 10 (13:13):
Right, Yeah yeah, I'm just every finger is the size
of a two liter boty.
Speaker 9 (13:19):
You know, you're just like what the hell? Yeah?
Speaker 10 (13:22):
But yeah no, he was like always uh, one of
those guys who I think people you know, you saw
him as kind of freak, you know what I mean.
Speaker 9 (13:32):
It was just like, damn, this guy is huge. But
what made him amazing was the quick dude. He was fast.
Speaker 7 (13:38):
Yeah, yeah, crazy. He would have wanted you would have
wanted him doing something athletic. Maybe maybe in this scenario
he's just like the world's greatest NFL something or other.
Speaker 9 (13:48):
Yeah, oh my god, did.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
You imagine someone that like that?
Speaker 7 (13:52):
All he played center in the NFL like whatever team
like the people rushing behind him.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
But you think the push push is effective with.
Speaker 7 (14:02):
Like normal people, like an actual linebacker.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
You're like, yeah, yeah, don't throw it to me over
over the middle. But alone, you would.
Speaker 9 (14:13):
Literally kill people. People would have died.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Oh shak heel, how she adore you? All right, shall
we take a quick break.
Speaker 7 (14:22):
Yeah, let's take a quick break, and then we're gonna
tilt our eyes over toward Uh.
Speaker 8 (14:30):
That's where the Olympic is happening.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
We'll be right back.
Speaker 9 (14:42):
At the comedian.
Speaker 11 (14:42):
I get it. Sometimes there's some cities.
Speaker 15 (14:45):
That you go, I go there and I take it
L you know, yeh, Like I take an L in
my hometown Indianapolis is like, we're good, thank you. Next,
I do have to have because I am marrying and
live with a Lakers fan, and so sometimes it's hard
to go, oh, am I part of this Stockholm syndrome relationship,
(15:09):
or like I need to like take a step out
of it because the other day I go, now, what
after the loss?
Speaker 11 (15:15):
I said, what is Lakers Twitter saying?
Speaker 15 (15:17):
Because I can't go to Lakers Twitter, but I do
like to be updated. Yeah, and he's like, oh, Lakers
Twitter is game planning how how they can win in seven?
Speaker 11 (15:31):
And I was like, wow, okay, yeah good.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
And they saw the same game I saw too, where
I mean it was wild because we were huge Jabbari,
Jack and I were all texting and we all watched
this run. We're like, and that's where we just lost
the game. Like the Lakers just you stumble for a
little bit, they will take advantage and they will just
take off with the lead in a way you cannot
(15:55):
claw back, especially if not with the kind of shooting
we had. It was just like after that, I was like, oh,
it's done, and we're like we're not even in the fourth.
Speaker 9 (16:01):
I was like, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
I already know how this ends because I've seen the team,
and to Jack's point, we just lacked the cal I
like that. I prefer that we don't lack the willpower.
We like, we just definitely not the willpower.
Speaker 7 (16:11):
Like Lebron has all the willpower, all the training, all
the it's just it's just caloric. He needs the He
needs to eat one of those dogs. The what are
the bacon wrapped sausagees outside of stables?
Speaker 2 (16:27):
An alley dog, danger dog, danger dog. Yeah, he just
needs to d a couple of those danger dogs.
Speaker 8 (16:31):
He'll be good.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
It's it's wild though.
Speaker 7 (16:35):
Uh My one hope for the Lakers is I remember,
specifically after Game one or maybe Game two of the
series with the Warriors last year, I felt as certain
as I do.
Speaker 8 (16:51):
Right now that it was over for the Lakers.
Speaker 7 (16:54):
They looked bad, they looked cooked like that. It was like, oh,
the Warriors figured them out. Like I remember Zach Lowe
being like, yeah, no, I mean, this is just the
point that Lebron's at in his career and it's an
embarrassing way to go out, but uh, you know, and
then he is the best at figuring things that. You know,
he's probably the smartest basketball player we've ever seen. So
(17:17):
I just don't know what he's going to figure out
at this point that he didn't figure out last year
when they got swept, or in any of the regular
season games. But we've seen him figure things out against like,
you know, it's usually against the worst.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I guess, Yeah, exactly another ailing aging team. I mean, like, yeah,
doing that against a on their way out Warriors versus
on their way up Nuggets and just I don't know.
I think it's a bit. That's where I have to
I have to fly, you know, float back to real world,
not Laker fan world. Were like, don't worry, baby, we
got this. Hang it up, hang it up. Just hey,
(17:52):
take check the sides for the banner, baby, We're doing this.
Speaker 7 (17:55):
As my friend Sewn from Cleveland always says, the Lebron
James team is never desperate. He has not been saying
it as much lately, though, so Yeah.
Speaker 11 (18:03):
Weird impression though that really, like.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Said, I was no Miles.
Speaker 11 (18:10):
I was back at.
Speaker 15 (18:12):
The Lakers game when I was pregnant and men were
very mad at me for being pregnant, you know, I
was like.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Back there, Wow, yeah, yeah, sorry about that. But yeah,
that's where like I have to jettison myself from the
pain of just holding on to a dream that is
pure fantasy at this point. I mean like it's just
not like as much as I want to believe it,
I just I just can't. I can't bring myself there.
And that's called self preservation.
Speaker 15 (18:36):
Yeah, is there any of you that's like, why did
we put ourselves in this position to be the seven seed.
Speaker 9 (18:43):
To be players?
Speaker 15 (18:45):
Yeah, yeah, it's a whole lot of happening at my
house too.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Yes, we've created our own prison that we have to
rot inside of and go stagnant and what it is,
what it is. And now I'm reading that we're going
to bring Darvin ham back next season. Ready, we're seeing
stories like this. Please don't let that be true for
my for my family's sake.
Speaker 7 (19:05):
Yeah, as much playing time as he is, all right,
we do want to talk about it. Anthony Edwards, thank
you something I can feel excited about. Yes, this was
the most fun thing about the game once was Anthony
Edwards just coming through, I mean him against Kevin Durant
(19:25):
and KD looked you know put up thirty three had
some amazing points, but Anthony Edwards was just thirty three points,
nine boards, six assists, two steals like big steals yeah,
and justtitude.
Speaker 11 (19:41):
Trash yeah, like charming.
Speaker 15 (19:46):
It's like it's it's so many stats outside of the
points too, just like you are a star, get like.
Speaker 11 (19:56):
Please let me run development for your company?
Speaker 15 (19:58):
Like I just love ye yet my my son My
not even two year old son went to his first
basketball practice on Saturday. He wore Anthony Edwards shoes and
he did not play one second. There was a playground
right next to the basketball court and he said, I'm
out of here.
Speaker 9 (20:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 15 (20:16):
He got so many compliments. Dads were like, where'd you
get those shoes to a baby?
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Yeah, So it's like this is the star power, Like, yeah,
please talk to me, not the child. Yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah,
where did you get the shoes? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (20:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 16 (20:28):
That was so Yeah, right, Jack, I can't believe. Have
you got nothing else to say about the Sixers? I
just want a glass right over there.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Like Nicks are probably going to win.
Speaker 7 (20:41):
Well, I mean what the game has started, Like, as
we're recording this, the Sixers or down three to one,
the game, the elimination game has started, and I don't know,
it's yeah, the like they have not been able to
win the close ones and yeah, that's mb. He seems
too slow to rebound seems to be the main problem.
(21:03):
And so there's just a lot of problems on the
offensive boards, you know, all with injury and it's just
like a truly cursed career for this man in Philadelphia.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Just seeing that that shot him that they're saying like, yo,
he's got a mild case of Bell's palsy, like you know,
like a form like facial paralysis.
Speaker 8 (21:26):
And I was with half his faces paralyzed for something.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
I could not I was like, yo, this guy is
doing everything right now. He's like I got off of leg,
my face is paralyzed, and he's still I still made
that shot. I was like, hey, he put up.
Speaker 7 (21:41):
Like everybody's talking about him being historically bad in the playoffs,
he does seem to have historical bad luck in the playoffs.
He did put up fifty in Game three. Despite that
one of the strangest just performances in a in a
basketball like seemed the first half it was like is
(22:03):
he all right? Is everything okay with him? Like he
seems like he's going through things emotion down And he
ended up having fifty and the Sixers won the game.
But uh, yeah, I just think I think the Knicks
are too quick for them. Things things aren't uh with
with him being injured, they they're just it's a it's
(22:24):
a liability for the Sixers, So yeah, they.
Speaker 8 (22:27):
Are right now.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
I always sound defeat even when they're if they were
up for you, and this is how I would sound.
This is just what it is to be a Sixers fan.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
We were doing this all season. We're like, Jack, look
at them they're doing.
Speaker 9 (22:41):
They're putting a little run together.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
You're like, I don't know, it doesn't matter. I'm like,
come on, tap into the delude. It's twenty. Every time
we have Philly fans on, like Blake Wexler two, everyone
has like the same thing.
Speaker 10 (22:54):
It's like, I don't know, man, like I'll believe it
when I see it, but but I will watch and
maybe go along.
Speaker 9 (23:00):
And were over here on the other end of the spectrum,
just like, yeah, Lakers to next year.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
We're both on the same like of school bus going
off a cliff. But it's like that meme where someone's
looking out one side of the bus and the other
person looking at the other side of the bus and like,
but we're on the same bus, you know what I mean.
It's just like the Laker fans like.
Speaker 7 (23:17):
Wow, we are not on the same bus.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
By the way, you guys have eighteen titles. We have
a couple.
Speaker 7 (23:26):
We've had an MVP or near MVP for the past
uh you know, four years, and every year the playoffs
are a disaster, So uh do to like things like
doesn't make sense? Like, I mean, I guess it makes
sense because he's seven foot two and you know, has
just like a massive body and like you know that.
(23:48):
But it's every he'll have a great year and then
like things just start to fall apart right at the postseason.
Just is it's too long? Yeah, but like this year,
you know he took some time off. I guess he
was badly injured. Anyways, it's none of this makes sense.
It's been a fun ride as a Sixers fan, and
(24:10):
I am no longer a Sixers fan.
Speaker 9 (24:12):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Oh okay, that's been my time. Like Elon Musk on
that Tesla shareholders call, it's like, actually, we don't make cars.
We actually AI robotics coming, So it's not an l.
Speaker 7 (24:21):
I'm just a fan of the great game of basketball.
Speaker 9 (24:24):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Yes, you have you have transcended. You have transcended. Well,
speaking of transcended, I think it's time we start a
new tradition here on the show. It's time to give
a quick eulogy to the teams we have lost to
the postseason. Que the cue the church music, please mm hmm.
Dearly beloved. We are gathered here today to lay several
(24:48):
teams down to rest this week, and although they each
fought valiantly, we're going to need the Pelicans to step
up first. Please please please approach them, de lectern please.
Speaker 7 (25:01):
I think they're in a better place now when they
were getting swept a couple of nights ago. The most
depressing detail as we were going through the eulogy notes
they won forty nine games in the regular season this year.
That is the third most enfranchised history and it didn't
even feel like that that could a seasoned for that right,
(25:24):
They still only have two playoff wins since the twenty
seventeen twenty eighteen season. Is this how you're supposed to
eulogize someone at their funeral? Is just saying depressing about.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Well, I mean it kind of it's a little bit.
It's just kind of just I guess maybe we'll call
it a post mortem.
Speaker 7 (25:40):
Yeah, okay, with on the best of health moving forward
and you know, happy trails to brandon Ingram I guess
absolutely to the Pelicans.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
You know, now you have time to tour the beaches
of Galveston, Texas, or go to Faraday, Louisiana. It's all.
It's all fun and games. Phoenix Suns fans were talking
to you next, and there was plenty of evidence that
a manufactured super team would rarely work. We honestly, we
(26:15):
can't fault you for trying for having a dream. Look,
I was there. I thought Gary Payton and Carl Malone. Anyways,
let's forget it anyway. I'm just saying, we can't fault
you for trying. We can't fault you for trying. I
did really believe.
Speaker 7 (26:28):
I really believed that they might be able to do
something because of how good the nets looked four years ago.
Speaker 8 (26:35):
That's what that was the logic that I was clinging to.
Speaker 7 (26:38):
I remember remember when the nets had like peak, but
it was peak KD, so that that was the difference. Anyways,
the rumor mill is already a buzz surrounding multiple stars,
head coach Frank Vogel, the team in general.
Speaker 8 (26:55):
We wish you safe.
Speaker 12 (26:56):
Trails took Casa Grande, and now, my Laker fans, our
time has come yet again, as Denver has done it
to us again.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
I don't think ad. Look, you may have played a
career high in games, and Lebron in his most games
since twenty eighteen, only for the team to not perform
the expectations and have immediate rumors about his future in
LA following the season. But at least this ride has
been fun and completely free of anxiety or angsil I'm
not on. It was full of anxiety and actually want
(27:33):
my kidding. Look, the Nuggets seem to have been our
alpha and our omega. We started the season playing them.
They pieced us up. Then when we were unveiling Kobe
Bryant's statue, we played, y'all, you pieced us up. Then
oh wow, the night Lebron James became the first player
to reach forty thousand points, you pieced us up. And
(27:57):
now we meet again as you Nuggets lay us to
rest and we ride off into North Hollywood relaxation. Thank
you so much. All Right, we're gonna we're gonna take
a quick break and we're gonna be right back with
the fourth quarter right after this.
Speaker 8 (28:14):
Wow, you're really crying. That's incredible.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
These are courage tears, man, because I'm so crazeous, bro.
Speaker 9 (28:28):
And we're back.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
We're back.
Speaker 7 (28:30):
And okay, yes, the seventy sixers played before the all
time classic.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Game that should just be should determine who wins the championship. Yeah,
if you if you had the most exciting double ot
in the regular season, just give us number eighteen. I
mean you want to stop the count Tournament two like
that stop you stop the count mode. That's when I
stopped the count. You are saying that in the fourth quarter,
they gotta lead.
Speaker 9 (28:57):
Stop the stop the count.
Speaker 17 (28:59):
If you want a funny story, like one time I
was playing DeAndre Jordan was a rookie when I was
with the Clippers one time and I was like we
had screwing around on the court or something and playing
one on one, but he couldn't shoot from the paint.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
As soon as I took the lead, I was like,
I'm done. I got to go stop the paint and
just ran off the court like I would too.
Speaker 17 (29:16):
That was my version to stop the count. That It's
like every time he wore talking to me, I beat
in one on one, Yeah, and it's like he's would
be like running back.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
I'm like, ah my knee, though, little.
Speaker 9 (29:27):
We should we should have.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
We should have introduced you as somebody who just destroyed
DeAndre and one on one and he hasn't been the
same since. But yeah, that night Jack. I was, you know,
people are coming against Denver.
Speaker 7 (29:43):
Joel was a late scratch, uh, and the memes were
coming for my man, Joel embiid man talking about how
he's scared of Jokic. I just want to set the
records right, Okay, he has dominated Jokic in the last
few matchups.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
He's not afraid of Yokic.
Speaker 7 (30:03):
He's afraid of the altitude. And have you tried to
exercise at altitude?
Speaker 9 (30:11):
It's so hard?
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Like he's just being smart. He also hasn't played in
Utah right in a while?
Speaker 9 (30:20):
Yeah, man, it's hard altitude.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Yeah, because I think Jabari was saying he hasn't played
in Denver since twenty nineteen. I think, yeah, I haven't
played in Denver either.
Speaker 9 (30:31):
I don't want I don't want to do that. Yeah,
where are you out?
Speaker 8 (30:33):
Man?
Speaker 9 (30:34):
See?
Speaker 2 (30:34):
I was, I was like, I think I'm off this
mbiid guy for the Lakers, you know, because like we
kind of got to go there to make stuff happen,
so a couple of times, a couple of times a year. Yeah, yeah,
so people.
Speaker 7 (30:43):
Are looking for an excuse to be out on him
like that. That was what that whole thing taught me.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Is.
Speaker 7 (30:49):
People were just ready to be like, I'm tired of
this guy.
Speaker 8 (30:52):
He's so many people.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Yeah, like Bill Simmons especially, He's like, eh, well, you
know Jokic is always doing it and attack may wing.
Speaker 7 (31:01):
You win an NBA title with Larry bird on your team?
What would what does this have to do with Larry
bird Man? Yeah, road Bill Simmons is tough to I
listened to his show. He is both dismissive of the
seventy six ers, but then like also secretly like fears
that he's He's like the seventy six ers, like don't
(31:22):
they stink? Like they I'm not worried about them. But
then like when he's talking about potential trades, he's like,
my absolute nightmare is that. Like Bruce Brown goes to
the seventies and I'm like, which one is it?
Speaker 9 (31:32):
Man? Is it? Is it one?
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Mic? But yeah, that's it.
Speaker 9 (31:35):
That's the game.
Speaker 17 (31:36):
Though, Like everybody's kind of counting out the six or
until they do it in the playoffs. It's not that
different than what we did with Denver, whether it was
fair or not, Like we counted them out until they
went and won the finals like it was along those years.
So it's along those lines in that sense, so like
you you understand it from them, and look, it's a
bad look. It's a bad look you know that. Hey yeah, yeah,
(31:59):
I mean, if he's genuinely hurt, totally get it respected
all that stuff.
Speaker 9 (32:03):
You hurt, don't play it.
Speaker 17 (32:04):
We know his knee injuries and stuff like that. But man,
it's kind of suspicious, yeah, you know, And it sucks
because literally the week before I had just gone on
a podcast defending Embiid and then you know, I'm like,
don't worry, he'll like he'll play in that game, and
then of course he scratches, and I'm like, all right,
I can't.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
I can't defend him anymore. I'm not going to go
out on a limb. Yeah, I mean. It's also just
one of those things as fans you want to see too,
you know, like you want to see that like MVP
race play out on the court and just be able
to be like, oh great, we got to see them
go up against each other, and now we have a
little more data to begin you get the take machine going.
Speaker 7 (32:39):
And when the people were like where's Embiid and he
was like pointing to himself, I was like this is
not good to just go go back to the locker room.
Speaker 8 (32:47):
This is like, this is embarrassing for all of us.
Speaker 12 (32:51):
Hey man, but I always I give him respect as
a as a fellow Arsenal fan.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
You know, I'll be in a corner to will you know,
being a corner to the Lisp.
Speaker 7 (32:59):
You said that you're no longer very interested in signing
Joel mb to the lake.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
D Yeah, I mean, you know, like I said, my
my fantasy is just go wherever the wind blows me.
So right now, I'm like, I don't know, maybe Lucer,
you know, yeah, maybe this Luker Doncic.
Speaker 9 (33:14):
Guy, he might be.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
He might He might have a case too. This might
not be a bad deal. Jameson, I'm a good man.
You've wandered into the rapid fire round of questions. We're
just you. You've done this before. We're hitting me with
some questions. Don't expand on your answers, give us quick
responses right back to us. And if you take too long,
we will be very rude, and we are very impatient,
(33:37):
and we will be very immature. But I know you
can handle it because you're in Las Vegas dealing with
people maybe as irrational as me, so I think you're prepared.
Are you ready though, Yes? Okay, Jamison's ready, Ryan, start o'clock. Okay,
do you want to object?
Speaker 8 (33:55):
Should I go first?
Speaker 9 (33:55):
Or do you want to go first? Uh?
Speaker 7 (33:57):
You can you can go, man, It's cool, all right, Jamison.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
You can go back in time to personally witness any
of the following iconic moments. The first one, Magic's baby
sky hook in the garden in nineteen eighty seven. And
I will play the clips just to remind you of
how beautiful these moments were.
Speaker 12 (34:20):
Cooper takes the ball out of bounds baseline, Raymond Worthy
is the left.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Worthy comes as a right, the left goes mad You's
got it. He didn't shoot at five seconds left, Maddie
gotta metal. Just what I thought a hook shot?
Speaker 5 (34:31):
As twelve god two seconds eleven, the Lakers take the
lead on Magic Johnson's running sky hook.
Speaker 7 (34:38):
Hey Jack, that was you, pat Riley, there is.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
I mean a man chick on miss chick. Okay, the
opportunity number two, by the way, number two.
Speaker 7 (34:49):
My six year old just saw the year nineteen eighty
something and he was like one thousand, nine hundred eighty.
Speaker 8 (34:57):
I was like, oh, yeah, you're born man.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Yeah, yeah, that there were numbers from then. Yeah, there
were numbers from then. All right, Jamison moment two. Run
our test that three pointer in Game seven against the
Celtics straight into my veins by looking more tests. Shout
(35:27):
up to my therapists on that one. And then finally,
Kobe Bryant Clutch Finals performance. After Shack goes out Game
four in the two thousand finals, try gets rose. Now
Indiana has five foul.
Speaker 14 (35:38):
The Pacers do not want to fail here, put Kobe.
Speaker 9 (35:41):
On the line.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Kobe fires the jumper and gives La the lead. Okay,
so then here it is, Jamison, of those three moments
in history, which one are you showing up to so
you can witness personally with your eyes?
Speaker 13 (35:55):
Well, I saw the last two like lot on TV. Yeah, yeah,
that the first one. Obviously I was really young, So
I probably on that one because I was way more
intense because of where it was located at the history
at the time, uh, the players on the court. So
I probably go acted that one. The other two I
(36:16):
remember very vividly. I watched the game in four the
third one. I had a lot of money on the
line to that.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
One, so I don't want to.
Speaker 13 (36:25):
But yeah, yeah, I probably the first one.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Yeah, magic baby, skyhooking the godden Yeah, that you.
Speaker 7 (36:32):
Give yourself a sports almanac can become like like con Biff, Yeah, Biff,
all right, Uh face of the n b A for
the next five years?
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Could it be me?
Speaker 8 (36:46):
I don't play basketball, but I don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Not off the table. Now I have this podcast, No Face.
Speaker 8 (36:52):
Of the NBA for the next five years.
Speaker 7 (36:55):
Poor faces number one because he has.
Speaker 13 (36:59):
The personality with the game. Well, there's guys that are
just as talented, but the personality that goes with the
game in the swag.
Speaker 9 (37:05):
It's him.
Speaker 8 (37:06):
Yeah, can we come up with a better nickname for him?
Speaker 7 (37:09):
I feel like somebody was pointing out on Twitter, and
this has been a frequent thing, Like people were like
what happened to NBA nicknames? On Reddit three years ago?
Someone was like, Kemp was Rayman, Peyton Glove, Dominique, the
Human Highlight Film, Barkley, the Round Mound of Rebound, Michael
Jordan Air Jordan, Like these are great poetic nicknames, and
(37:31):
now it's like Anthony Edwards. Well, the first three letters
of his name is ant Okay, okay, we'll call it
him ant man.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Like what about this Tony No, man, that's just like
a normal nickname. Alright, alright, alright, alright, what about Antony?
Speaker 7 (37:48):
No?
Speaker 2 (37:49):
So what about a E.
Speaker 13 (37:52):
The reason why we don't have great nickname any war
is because we know these guys from when they're like
fifteen years old, so there's no mystery anymore. We just
called them by their name or call them whatever nickname
they already have. So we've known them, We've seen them
do AAU seem to do high school. There's no more
intrigue anymore. Back in the day when Sean Kent was
dunking on everybody, that was the first time you saw it.
(38:12):
When we got the NBA, we see all these guys
who are fourteen fifteen years old, right, so there's no
more mister entrigue to them. So it just is what
it is.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
But do you do you personally miss like a good
nickname or are you just like it's fine, let's call
him an, let's call them AE whatever.
Speaker 13 (38:25):
Yeah, I do miss a good nickname. However, the issue
is this, the people will pray nicknames that shouldn't be
doing it. We need people who are cool and have
swag doing it, not people trying to be cool and
to go viral, Like it's two different things, Like you
stand there laying with that. And I think that's a
big issue that we have on social media when it
comes to basketball.
Speaker 7 (38:45):
Whatnot, Like some of them like Barkley being the round
mound of rebound, like that is too sweaty to like
cook for that to work today. Like granted, it's a
lot of fun, but it only as possible because there
were like the beat reporter for the Sixers was like
I came up with this and I'm going to keep
(39:07):
repeating it until everybody else does, you know, like there
was it's like that old media model. Whereas now, like
I don't think you can get the round mound of
rebound started.
Speaker 9 (39:17):
No, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
No, you can't. You can't do like nicknames that sound
like an intro bar and like a Sugarhill Gang rap song,
you know what I mean. It's like rebound It just
like no I'd ever.
Speaker 7 (39:30):
Gone over your friend's as eat and the food just
ain't no good.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Yeah, we need something, that's what we need. We gotta
we gotta go to the next We need we need something.
We need bars. Okay when it comes to these nicknames.
So yeah, the the challenge is out there, all right,
So James, the next question Barkley's Hall of Fame career
or former guest the Matt Boostie's Robert Ory's Hall of Fame.
Speaker 13 (39:54):
Career right by. I would take Barkley's career. He was
a living team, made a lot of money. He's still
making a lot of money. He's he's just he's just
about a famous you want to be. People know you
don't know too much about you, and I think that's
always cool. Uh. But Barkley, Yeah, No, Barkley at one
(40:15):
point time at the top of the player in the NBA,
and that was never the case for Robert or you know,
he had a hell of a career, did what he did.
But I would take Barkley's career ten times.
Speaker 8 (40:24):
Yeah, and we.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Did, of course, say Robert Rory is Hall of Famer.
Speaker 7 (40:27):
He's not a basketball Hall of Fame, but he's in
the much more important Uh.
Speaker 8 (40:32):
Miles and Jack I Mat Boosti's Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
All right, that's gonna do it for this Best of episode.
Speaker 9 (40:37):
We thank you for tuning in and we will see
you next week.
Well, well, well, no, that's not the normal voice. Because
the guys are on Christmas break this week, so please
enjoy this best of twenty twenty four episode that features
a blend of fun conversations with the athletics Mode de
Quille Ndscapes, Martins Johnson, comedian Megan Gaily, writer creator Extraordinaire
Jasmine Watkins, Sports Better and analysts Jamison Welch and comedian
(00:22):
Matt Leeb.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Welcome to the show. I guess we should just start
talking at the state of.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
The Milwaukee Bucks, you know, four and six over the
last ten. I'm like, it is everything Okay, I was
asking Jabi before this, I'm like, is this panic time
or is this a doc Rivers bias?
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (00:43):
Let me let me just start by saying Jabari did
not tell me we'd be talking to Bucks, and if
he had to that I would not come on here.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
For me. But uh, yeah, it's not good.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Is the best way to put it. Like I said,
they're two and five. I think, yeah, I got there.
They weren't playing exactly great before, but at least the
record was better. So before it was the process was bad,
but the results were great, and now the results are bad.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
And according to people in Milwaukee, the process is great.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
I missed some of the games, but like if you're losing,
I don't think the process is all that great. But
for the game I saw last I don't remember. I
think that was the Hornets, which whatever.
Speaker 6 (01:27):
But when we saw the Nasty who's some respect on
the nastas his name?
Speaker 5 (01:38):
I noticed people like to pick on him, but uh, yeah,
he shows you can't. Actually he's a real NBA player,
just the fifteenth man.
Speaker 7 (01:46):
Yeah, I gotta say, like, just just so I'm a
Sixers fan. I remember when we exported James Harden to
the Clippers. They had a rough start and then the
seventy six ERSNSS kind of washed off of him through repetition,
and now they're one of the best teams in the league.
(02:07):
So I will just say sometimes it takes a seventy
six Ers export a couple reps to just like get
the negative.
Speaker 8 (02:16):
Energy off of them.
Speaker 7 (02:18):
And so I would give yourself a little bit of time,
maybe a couple more games, and then you're gonna go
on like a wild winning streak.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
That's Is this a metaphor about Pat Bait or Doc Rivers?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
The Doc Rivers doctor.
Speaker 7 (02:34):
Yeah, yeah, because yeah, I mean I remember the last time,
I was like, see when James Harden went there, I
was like, see.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
It's he's not that, and then of course he's.
Speaker 8 (02:45):
Really good.
Speaker 9 (02:46):
Yeah, And I.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Knew he was good. I knew he was good last season.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
Counter I mean, we've seen James Harden be great in
the regular season and then it's the same most story
and playoffs. So like, you know, wait until June before
you completely buy into your theory that he watched all
the seventy six ers off of him. But yeah, it's
not great for the Bucks that you have to not
only fire a coach midseason, but then hire a completely
(03:15):
new one.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
I didn't even go to the interim route. There was like, no,
we're gonna completely.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Clean break yeah clean.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Blake replaced everything with Doc Rivers, which I mean.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
Obviously he's had success if you win championship in NBA only,
but so many people can say that. But at the
same time, I don't know how to put this other
than I don't like his vibe.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I believe Doc Rivers a few I don't.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
I'm just kidding, But I mean, even how he got
here if you believe the athletics reporting, but if he can,
if we can give it some time.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Seven games is not enough, I don't think.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
I mean, Adrian Griffin got thirties to my game, so
you know, give it some time.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
But I didn't like what I.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
Saw in the beginning of the season, even when they
went on that win streak with a lot of those
like one of one of those games I believe was
the one and Dame hit the game winner. So there's
a lot to want more from this team. Obviously, the
partnership of him and Dame, the health of christ Middleton
is brook Lopin is still the defensive star wark.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
It's still a question.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
But if they have stability now, if the players believe
in their coach, which it was clear even before day
one it felt like that they did not believe in
Adrian Griffin, then actually there can be some optimism.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
But until then it looks rough.
Speaker 8 (04:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
You remember that shim machine material that all the basketball
shorts are made of in the nineties, that like if
you had a cat and it arrently scratched, it like
ruined the.
Speaker 10 (04:52):
Entire it was like one thread and the whole thing
instead it's like scrunched on the side.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I remember when she brought it back for Rod. It
had one of those scratches in it, and I'm like, okay,
so this is why I was at ross. But I
was like so in love with it because I was like, yes,
I am part of the world is mine, which is
what stood for the Twism movement.
Speaker 9 (05:12):
Yeah, he had.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
I mean, Shaq was just such a like you know,
like in the era of the big superstars, like with
Michael Jordan taking up all the oxygen, like having a
big guy like Shaq who felt like a fun, lovable
kid whose gigantic shoe was in every mall in America
for some reason because everyone's like, get a loaded of
this guy's foot.
Speaker 7 (05:32):
Yes, yeah, and became like the number one novelty in America,
like yeah, surpassing Giant ball of string.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
It was like shack shoe.
Speaker 9 (05:41):
Yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 10 (05:43):
It was like roadside attraction famous, Like people were just like,
look look at this freak, and it was. It was
crazy too because like in the era of Michael Jordan,
which he is taking up all of the space to
even have another superstar who also so you know had
uh you know, he was a rebot guy, so you know,
(06:05):
he had his silhouette on there they tried to make.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
That bad hanging.
Speaker 10 (06:10):
Yeah, but you know, and and he's he hadn't he
hadn't even won a championship yet, you know, it took him.
Speaker 9 (06:16):
You know a few years.
Speaker 10 (06:17):
He had gone to the finals with the Magic, but
he had not won a ring. He was beaten by uh,
you know, like better centers.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (06:29):
Yeah, and still he was like this big superstar. So
when he went to the Lakers, I was like, this
is cool. But also, you know, all y'all are bandwagon.
I've loved the Lakers ever since. My middle school teacher
teacher was Elton Campbell's brother.
Speaker 11 (06:46):
He was.
Speaker 9 (06:48):
Tall, Yeah, very tall. That was the other thing that
I believe that.
Speaker 8 (06:52):
So I'm gonna I'm gonna believe it.
Speaker 10 (06:54):
And I also was like, Eldon is a is you know,
this guy is a weird accent, But Eldon does seem
like the type of name you would have if your
whole fan les would name yeah, yes, like a transit
Atlantic accent. Family would name their kid elder right right,
And so yeah, so I was always like, you know,
(07:14):
Kobe doesn't get respect. Like everyone's buying shack albums, nobody's
buying thug poetry and I was like, you know, he's
a he's not a great rapper, but he can rap
an Italian?
Speaker 9 (07:26):
Why do people not respect this guy? One that he
won the dunk contest? You know? Uh?
Speaker 8 (07:31):
And then when the dunk contest.
Speaker 9 (07:32):
Did did Kobe not win the dunk contest? Am I crazy?
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I thought he did? That was like his second or first?
Speaker 12 (07:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (07:40):
I thought he did, like the first first year? How
is that more hygen that he It was iconic? He
he uh, he has like his what was his move?
It was oh man, it's been so long, but it
was like, he definitely dunked the ball good.
Speaker 9 (07:57):
I remember, all right.
Speaker 8 (07:59):
I just wanted to make sure he dunked the ball good.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Here's a refresher for Kobe's dunk contest in ninety ninety. So.
The thing that I remember was that he wore his
shooting shirt for it, which was very like, oh okay,
we liked that. And I remember wanting a shooting shirt.
Speaker 6 (08:13):
Eighteen years old six six yeah, yeah, okay, it's eighteen
years old.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Here's this but us he got second.
Speaker 9 (08:22):
Year okay, yeah, eighteen years old, his second year exactly. Ooh,
big went down between.
Speaker 8 (08:31):
His legs and got them, wore his shooting shirt the
whole time.
Speaker 9 (08:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like that casual casual.
Speaker 8 (08:39):
Casual.
Speaker 7 (08:40):
Also kind of a mistake because why why is this
not more iconic?
Speaker 9 (08:45):
You say, a mistake, but you know, but he didn't win.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
The shooting shirt comes off, Oh.
Speaker 9 (08:53):
Dude, then they'll put it one more time.
Speaker 10 (08:55):
Oh yeah, and then selext no, but it's the big show.
His last one I think was, oh yeah, Brandy's in
the audience.
Speaker 9 (09:05):
Is important.
Speaker 13 (09:07):
That's what.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
He took Brandy to the prom right, he did take he.
Speaker 9 (09:10):
Did, he took Brandy to the prompt. And then what
was this one?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
He tried to go for a bounce between the legs.
Speaker 9 (09:20):
That's a good game for him. That that was a
I don't want to see that replay is not nice.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
First all right, so here's the last one we saw.
We saw Michael Finley.
Speaker 10 (09:29):
Already definitely like the most iconic one and yeah, oh yeah,
this is like pumped back.
Speaker 9 (09:38):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 10 (09:40):
So he he proved himself to be athletically like one
of the greatest. And then you know, everyone just called
him a ballhog for his first like three four years
in the NBA, which was true.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
You know, he averaged five steals from his teammates.
Speaker 7 (10:00):
Yeah it's not just that, b Yeah, but it was.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
But no, but you could see that belief in him too.
I remember like one of the playoff series against the
Jazz and he was throwing up so many shots that
I was like, dude, relax, like, yeah, you aren't the
answer to this right now. But you could tell that,
like that turned into what Kobe then became, which is
like that real self belief in himself and be like
I'm not I'm not serious.
Speaker 9 (10:24):
I'm like, I'm not joking.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
I will I will negate every contribution from this other
team by myself if I had to. And yeah, that
was a thing that was a little bit. I remember
being frustrated as a young fan because it just didn't
feel like it his belief was matching what was showing
up on the court. But then when those things were reconciled.
Speaker 14 (10:43):
Yeah, and once everything started to come together, once they
were running the triangle, once they you know, got uh
Phil Jackson immediately were winning championships, and he was still
you know, people were still you know, talking trash.
Speaker 10 (11:00):
I was like, you're wrong, Kobe's Jordan. And then like
Lebron James came out in two thousand and three and
I was like, whoa Kobe?
Speaker 9 (11:09):
I still hate Jordans.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I still don't like Lebron from just that, because.
Speaker 10 (11:14):
From people trying to shift the focus away from my
man Kobe.
Speaker 7 (11:18):
And this is a this is for people who don't
live in La. This is how most Lakers fans at least.
Speaker 8 (11:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (11:27):
A sickness that most Lakers fans have is they are
they resent that Lebron came to the Lakers and won
a championship.
Speaker 9 (11:34):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah hurt.
Speaker 7 (11:35):
They're like, I hate this guy, like he's just here,
he just wants to win one with our jersey on
they Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Nakers fans coined the term Mickey Mouse.
Speaker 7 (11:48):
Branding for Disneyland, all we don't like this guy.
Speaker 9 (11:54):
A question that just.
Speaker 7 (11:54):
Occurred to me about Shack because arguably he went into
the profession and where the thing that is most notable
about him is the least remarkable, which is like he's
around other people who are huge and he like makes
them look small by comparison, like Shaq is. I don't
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think people understand how big Shack is and more just
huge in every direction. Do we think he would have
had a like he would have been world famous if
he just like never picked up a basketball.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Just look at this big guy.
Speaker 7 (12:34):
He wouldn't be a big guy who's like incredibly like
charismatic and cool and like.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Yes, wait, so in this alternate universe, where where does
he what's his path goes? Still?
Speaker 7 (12:47):
I don't know if he goes to LSU, but like,
wwe maybe.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Oh interesting. I could see him being like a Andre
the Giant.
Speaker 10 (12:56):
The Giant people by the way, forget how big Andre
the Giant was.
Speaker 9 (13:00):
He's another one.
Speaker 10 (13:01):
It was like you when you think he's a giant,
he's just like, ah, there's giants in the NBA.
Speaker 9 (13:06):
No, he's like Jack.
Speaker 8 (13:07):
He's like, yeah, watch holding hand coke and have your
mind blown.
Speaker 10 (13:13):
Right, Yeah yeah, I'm just every finger is the size
of a two liter boty.
Speaker 9 (13:19):
You know, you're just like what the hell? Yeah?
Speaker 10 (13:22):
But yeah no, he was like always uh, one of
those guys who I think people you know, you saw
him as kind of freak, you know what I mean.
Speaker 9 (13:32):
It was just like, damn, this guy is huge. But
what made him amazing was the quick dude. He was fast.
Speaker 7 (13:38):
Yeah, yeah, crazy. He would have wanted you would have
wanted him doing something athletic. Maybe maybe in this scenario
he's just like the world's greatest NFL something or other.
Speaker 9 (13:48):
Yeah, oh my god, did.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
You imagine someone that like that?
Speaker 7 (13:52):
All he played center in the NFL like whatever team
like the people rushing behind him.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
But you think the push push is effective with.
Speaker 7 (14:02):
Like normal people, like an actual linebacker.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
You're like, yeah, yeah, don't throw it to me over
over the middle. But alone, you would.
Speaker 9 (14:13):
Literally kill people. People would have died.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Oh shak heel, how she adore you? All right, shall
we take a quick break.
Speaker 7 (14:22):
Yeah, let's take a quick break, and then we're gonna
tilt our eyes over toward Uh.
Speaker 8 (14:30):
That's where the Olympic is happening.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
We'll be right back.
Speaker 9 (14:42):
At the comedian.
Speaker 11 (14:42):
I get it. Sometimes there's some cities.
Speaker 15 (14:45):
That you go, I go there and I take it
L you know, yeh, Like I take an L in
my hometown Indianapolis is like, we're good, thank you. Next,
I do have to have because I am marrying and
live with a Lakers fan, and so sometimes it's hard
to go, oh, am I part of this Stockholm syndrome relationship,
(15:09):
or like I need to like take a step out
of it because the other day I go, now, what
after the loss?
Speaker 11 (15:15):
I said, what is Lakers Twitter saying?
Speaker 15 (15:17):
Because I can't go to Lakers Twitter, but I do
like to be updated. Yeah, and he's like, oh, Lakers
Twitter is game planning how how they can win in seven?
Speaker 11 (15:31):
And I was like, wow, okay, yeah good.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
And they saw the same game I saw too, where
I mean it was wild because we were huge Jabbari,
Jack and I were all texting and we all watched
this run. We're like, and that's where we just lost
the game. Like the Lakers just you stumble for a
little bit, they will take advantage and they will just
take off with the lead in a way you cannot
(15:55):
claw back, especially if not with the kind of shooting
we had. It was just like after that, I was like, oh,
it's done, and we're like we're not even in the fourth.
Speaker 9 (16:01):
I was like, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
I already know how this ends because I've seen the team,
and to Jack's point, we just lacked the cal I
like that. I prefer that we don't lack the willpower.
We like, we just definitely not the willpower.
Speaker 7 (16:11):
Like Lebron has all the willpower, all the training, all
the it's just it's just caloric. He needs the He
needs to eat one of those dogs. The what are
the bacon wrapped sausagees outside of stables?
Speaker 2 (16:27):
An alley dog, danger dog, danger dog. Yeah, he just
needs to d a couple of those danger dogs.
Speaker 8 (16:31):
He'll be good.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
It's it's wild though.
Speaker 7 (16:35):
Uh My one hope for the Lakers is I remember,
specifically after Game one or maybe Game two of the
series with the Warriors last year, I felt as certain
as I do.
Speaker 8 (16:51):
Right now that it was over for the Lakers.
Speaker 7 (16:54):
They looked bad, they looked cooked like that. It was like, oh,
the Warriors figured them out. Like I remember Zach Lowe
being like, yeah, no, I mean, this is just the
point that Lebron's at in his career and it's an
embarrassing way to go out, but uh, you know, and
then he is the best at figuring things that. You know,
he's probably the smartest basketball player we've ever seen. So
(17:17):
I just don't know what he's going to figure out
at this point that he didn't figure out last year
when they got swept, or in any of the regular
season games. But we've seen him figure things out against like,
you know, it's usually against the worst.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I guess, Yeah, exactly another ailing aging team. I mean, like, yeah,
doing that against a on their way out Warriors versus
on their way up Nuggets and just I don't know.
I think it's a bit. That's where I have to
I have to fly, you know, float back to real world,
not Laker fan world. Were like, don't worry, baby, we
got this. Hang it up, hang it up. Just hey,
(17:52):
take check the sides for the banner, baby, We're doing this.
Speaker 7 (17:55):
As my friend Sewn from Cleveland always says, the Lebron
James team is never desperate. He has not been saying
it as much lately, though, so Yeah.
Speaker 11 (18:03):
Weird impression though that really, like.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Said, I was no Miles.
Speaker 11 (18:10):
I was back at.
Speaker 15 (18:12):
The Lakers game when I was pregnant and men were
very mad at me for being pregnant, you know, I
was like.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Back there, Wow, yeah, yeah, sorry about that. But yeah,
that's where like I have to jettison myself from the
pain of just holding on to a dream that is
pure fantasy at this point. I mean like it's just
not like as much as I want to believe it,
I just I just can't. I can't bring myself there.
And that's called self preservation.
Speaker 15 (18:36):
Yeah, is there any of you that's like, why did
we put ourselves in this position to be the seven seed.
Speaker 9 (18:43):
To be players?
Speaker 15 (18:45):
Yeah, yeah, it's a whole lot of happening at my
house too.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Yes, we've created our own prison that we have to
rot inside of and go stagnant and what it is,
what it is. And now I'm reading that we're going
to bring Darvin ham back next season. Ready, we're seeing
stories like this. Please don't let that be true for
my for my family's sake.
Speaker 7 (19:05):
Yeah, as much playing time as he is, all right,
we do want to talk about it. Anthony Edwards, thank
you something I can feel excited about. Yes, this was
the most fun thing about the game once was Anthony
Edwards just coming through, I mean him against Kevin Durant
(19:25):
and KD looked you know put up thirty three had
some amazing points, but Anthony Edwards was just thirty three points,
nine boards, six assists, two steals like big steals yeah,
and justtitude.
Speaker 11 (19:41):
Trash yeah, like charming.
Speaker 15 (19:46):
It's like it's it's so many stats outside of the
points too, just like you are a star, get like.
Speaker 11 (19:56):
Please let me run development for your company?
Speaker 15 (19:58):
Like I just love ye yet my my son My
not even two year old son went to his first
basketball practice on Saturday. He wore Anthony Edwards shoes and
he did not play one second. There was a playground
right next to the basketball court and he said, I'm
out of here.
Speaker 9 (20:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 15 (20:16):
He got so many compliments. Dads were like, where'd you
get those shoes to a baby?
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Yeah, So it's like this is the star power, Like, yeah,
please talk to me, not the child. Yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah,
where did you get the shoes? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (20:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 16 (20:28):
That was so Yeah, right, Jack, I can't believe. Have
you got nothing else to say about the Sixers? I
just want a glass right over there.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Like Nicks are probably going to win.
Speaker 7 (20:41):
Well, I mean what the game has started, Like, as
we're recording this, the Sixers or down three to one,
the game, the elimination game has started, and I don't know,
it's yeah, the like they have not been able to
win the close ones and yeah, that's mb. He seems
too slow to rebound seems to be the main problem.
(21:03):
And so there's just a lot of problems on the
offensive boards, you know, all with injury and it's just
like a truly cursed career for this man in Philadelphia.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Just seeing that that shot him that they're saying like, yo,
he's got a mild case of Bell's palsy, like you know,
like a form like facial paralysis.
Speaker 8 (21:26):
And I was with half his faces paralyzed for something.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
I could not I was like, yo, this guy is
doing everything right now. He's like I got off of leg,
my face is paralyzed, and he's still I still made
that shot. I was like, hey, he put up.
Speaker 7 (21:41):
Like everybody's talking about him being historically bad in the playoffs,
he does seem to have historical bad luck in the playoffs.
He did put up fifty in Game three. Despite that
one of the strangest just performances in a in a
basketball like seemed the first half it was like is
(22:03):
he all right? Is everything okay with him? Like he
seems like he's going through things emotion down And he
ended up having fifty and the Sixers won the game.
But uh, yeah, I just think I think the Knicks
are too quick for them. Things things aren't uh with
with him being injured, they they're just it's a it's
(22:24):
a liability for the Sixers, So yeah, they.
Speaker 8 (22:27):
Are right now.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
I always sound defeat even when they're if they were
up for you, and this is how I would sound.
This is just what it is to be a Sixers fan.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
We were doing this all season. We're like, Jack, look
at them they're doing.
Speaker 9 (22:41):
They're putting a little run together.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
You're like, I don't know, it doesn't matter. I'm like,
come on, tap into the delude. It's twenty. Every time
we have Philly fans on, like Blake Wexler two, everyone
has like the same thing.
Speaker 10 (22:54):
It's like, I don't know, man, like I'll believe it
when I see it, but but I will watch and
maybe go along.
Speaker 9 (23:00):
And were over here on the other end of the spectrum,
just like, yeah, Lakers to next year.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
We're both on the same like of school bus going
off a cliff. But it's like that meme where someone's
looking out one side of the bus and the other
person looking at the other side of the bus and like,
but we're on the same bus, you know what I mean.
It's just like the Laker fans like.
Speaker 7 (23:17):
Wow, we are not on the same bus.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
By the way, you guys have eighteen titles. We have
a couple.
Speaker 7 (23:26):
We've had an MVP or near MVP for the past
uh you know, four years, and every year the playoffs
are a disaster, So uh do to like things like
doesn't make sense? Like, I mean, I guess it makes
sense because he's seven foot two and you know, has
just like a massive body and like you know that.
(23:48):
But it's every he'll have a great year and then
like things just start to fall apart right at the postseason.
Just is it's too long? Yeah, but like this year,
you know he took some time off. I guess he
was badly injured. Anyways, it's none of this makes sense.
It's been a fun ride as a Sixers fan, and
(24:10):
I am no longer a Sixers fan.
Speaker 9 (24:12):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Oh okay, that's been my time. Like Elon Musk on
that Tesla shareholders call, it's like, actually, we don't make cars.
We actually AI robotics coming, So it's not an l.
Speaker 7 (24:21):
I'm just a fan of the great game of basketball.
Speaker 9 (24:24):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Yes, you have you have transcended. You have transcended. Well,
speaking of transcended, I think it's time we start a
new tradition here on the show. It's time to give
a quick eulogy to the teams we have lost to
the postseason. Que the cue the church music, please mm hmm.
Dearly beloved. We are gathered here today to lay several
(24:48):
teams down to rest this week, and although they each
fought valiantly, we're going to need the Pelicans to step
up first. Please please please approach them, de lectern please.
Speaker 7 (25:01):
I think they're in a better place now when they
were getting swept a couple of nights ago. The most
depressing detail as we were going through the eulogy notes
they won forty nine games in the regular season this year.
That is the third most enfranchised history and it didn't
even feel like that that could a seasoned for that right,
(25:24):
They still only have two playoff wins since the twenty
seventeen twenty eighteen season. Is this how you're supposed to
eulogize someone at their funeral? Is just saying depressing about.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Well, I mean it kind of it's a little bit.
It's just kind of just I guess maybe we'll call
it a post mortem.
Speaker 7 (25:40):
Yeah, okay, with on the best of health moving forward
and you know, happy trails to brandon Ingram I guess
absolutely to the Pelicans.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
You know, now you have time to tour the beaches
of Galveston, Texas, or go to Faraday, Louisiana. It's all.
It's all fun and games. Phoenix Suns fans were talking
to you next, and there was plenty of evidence that
a manufactured super team would rarely work. We honestly, we
(26:15):
can't fault you for trying for having a dream. Look,
I was there. I thought Gary Payton and Carl Malone. Anyways,
let's forget it anyway. I'm just saying, we can't fault
you for trying. We can't fault you for trying. I
did really believe.
Speaker 7 (26:28):
I really believed that they might be able to do
something because of how good the nets looked four years ago.
Speaker 8 (26:35):
That's what that was the logic that I was clinging to.
Speaker 7 (26:38):
I remember remember when the nets had like peak, but
it was peak KD, so that that was the difference. Anyways,
the rumor mill is already a buzz surrounding multiple stars,
head coach Frank Vogel, the team in general.
Speaker 8 (26:55):
We wish you safe.
Speaker 12 (26:56):
Trails took Casa Grande, and now, my Laker fans, our
time has come yet again, as Denver has done it
to us again.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
I don't think ad. Look, you may have played a
career high in games, and Lebron in his most games
since twenty eighteen, only for the team to not perform
the expectations and have immediate rumors about his future in
LA following the season. But at least this ride has
been fun and completely free of anxiety or angsil I'm
not on. It was full of anxiety and actually want
(27:33):
my kidding. Look, the Nuggets seem to have been our
alpha and our omega. We started the season playing them.
They pieced us up. Then when we were unveiling Kobe
Bryant's statue, we played, y'all, you pieced us up. Then
oh wow, the night Lebron James became the first player
to reach forty thousand points, you pieced us up. And
(27:57):
now we meet again as you Nuggets lay us to
rest and we ride off into North Hollywood relaxation. Thank
you so much. All Right, we're gonna we're gonna take
a quick break and we're gonna be right back with
the fourth quarter right after this.
Speaker 8 (28:14):
Wow, you're really crying. That's incredible.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
These are courage tears, man, because I'm so crazeous, bro.
Speaker 9 (28:28):
And we're back.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
We're back.
Speaker 7 (28:30):
And okay, yes, the seventy sixers played before the all
time classic.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Game that should just be should determine who wins the championship. Yeah,
if you if you had the most exciting double ot
in the regular season, just give us number eighteen. I
mean you want to stop the count Tournament two like
that stop you stop the count mode. That's when I
stopped the count. You are saying that in the fourth quarter,
they gotta lead.
Speaker 9 (28:57):
Stop the stop the count.
Speaker 17 (28:59):
If you want a funny story, like one time I
was playing DeAndre Jordan was a rookie when I was
with the Clippers one time and I was like we
had screwing around on the court or something and playing
one on one, but he couldn't shoot from the paint.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
As soon as I took the lead, I was like,
I'm done. I got to go stop the paint and
just ran off the court like I would too.
Speaker 17 (29:16):
That was my version to stop the count. That It's
like every time he wore talking to me, I beat
in one on one, Yeah, and it's like he's would
be like running back.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
I'm like, ah my knee, though, little.
Speaker 9 (29:27):
We should we should have.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
We should have introduced you as somebody who just destroyed
DeAndre and one on one and he hasn't been the
same since. But yeah, that night Jack. I was, you know,
people are coming against Denver.
Speaker 7 (29:43):
Joel was a late scratch, uh, and the memes were
coming for my man, Joel embiid man talking about how
he's scared of Jokic. I just want to set the
records right, Okay, he has dominated Jokic in the last
few matchups.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
He's not afraid of Yokic.
Speaker 7 (30:03):
He's afraid of the altitude. And have you tried to
exercise at altitude?
Speaker 9 (30:11):
It's so hard?
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Like he's just being smart. He also hasn't played in
Utah right in a while?
Speaker 9 (30:20):
Yeah, man, it's hard altitude.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Yeah, because I think Jabari was saying he hasn't played
in Denver since twenty nineteen. I think, yeah, I haven't
played in Denver either.
Speaker 9 (30:31):
I don't want I don't want to do that. Yeah,
where are you out?
Speaker 8 (30:33):
Man?
Speaker 9 (30:34):
See?
Speaker 2 (30:34):
I was, I was like, I think I'm off this
mbiid guy for the Lakers, you know, because like we
kind of got to go there to make stuff happen,
so a couple of times, a couple of times a year. Yeah, yeah,
so people.
Speaker 7 (30:43):
Are looking for an excuse to be out on him
like that. That was what that whole thing taught me.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Is.
Speaker 7 (30:49):
People were just ready to be like, I'm tired of
this guy.
Speaker 8 (30:52):
He's so many people.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Yeah, like Bill Simmons especially, He's like, eh, well, you
know Jokic is always doing it and attack may wing.
Speaker 7 (31:01):
You win an NBA title with Larry bird on your team?
What would what does this have to do with Larry
bird Man? Yeah, road Bill Simmons is tough to I
listened to his show. He is both dismissive of the
seventy six ers, but then like also secretly like fears
that he's He's like the seventy six ers, like don't
(31:22):
they stink? Like they I'm not worried about them. But
then like when he's talking about potential trades, he's like,
my absolute nightmare is that. Like Bruce Brown goes to
the seventies and I'm like, which one is it?
Speaker 9 (31:32):
Man? Is it? Is it one?
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Mic? But yeah, that's it.
Speaker 9 (31:35):
That's the game.
Speaker 17 (31:36):
Though, Like everybody's kind of counting out the six or
until they do it in the playoffs. It's not that
different than what we did with Denver, whether it was
fair or not, Like we counted them out until they
went and won the finals like it was along those years.
So it's along those lines in that sense, so like
you you understand it from them, and look, it's a
bad look. It's a bad look you know that. Hey yeah, yeah,
(31:59):
I mean, if he's genuinely hurt, totally get it respected
all that stuff.
Speaker 9 (32:03):
You hurt, don't play it.
Speaker 17 (32:04):
We know his knee injuries and stuff like that. But man,
it's kind of suspicious, yeah, you know, And it sucks
because literally the week before I had just gone on
a podcast defending Embiid and then you know, I'm like,
don't worry, he'll like he'll play in that game, and
then of course he scratches, and I'm like, all right,
I can't.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
I can't defend him anymore. I'm not going to go
out on a limb. Yeah, I mean. It's also just
one of those things as fans you want to see too,
you know, like you want to see that like MVP
race play out on the court and just be able
to be like, oh great, we got to see them
go up against each other, and now we have a
little more data to begin you get the take machine going.
Speaker 7 (32:39):
And when the people were like where's Embiid and he
was like pointing to himself, I was like this is
not good to just go go back to the locker room.
Speaker 8 (32:47):
This is like, this is embarrassing for all of us.
Speaker 12 (32:51):
Hey man, but I always I give him respect as
a as a fellow Arsenal fan.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
You know, I'll be in a corner to will you know,
being a corner to the Lisp.
Speaker 7 (32:59):
You said that you're no longer very interested in signing
Joel mb to the lake.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
D Yeah, I mean, you know, like I said, my
my fantasy is just go wherever the wind blows me.
So right now, I'm like, I don't know, maybe Lucer,
you know, yeah, maybe this Luker Doncic.
Speaker 9 (33:14):
Guy, he might be.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
He might He might have a case too. This might
not be a bad deal. Jameson, I'm a good man.
You've wandered into the rapid fire round of questions. We're
just you. You've done this before. We're hitting me with
some questions. Don't expand on your answers, give us quick
responses right back to us. And if you take too long,
we will be very rude, and we are very impatient,
(33:37):
and we will be very immature. But I know you
can handle it because you're in Las Vegas dealing with
people maybe as irrational as me, so I think you're prepared.
Are you ready though, Yes? Okay, Jamison's ready, Ryan, start o'clock. Okay,
do you want to object?
Speaker 8 (33:55):
Should I go first?
Speaker 9 (33:55):
Or do you want to go first? Uh?
Speaker 7 (33:57):
You can you can go, man, It's cool, all right, Jamison.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
You can go back in time to personally witness any
of the following iconic moments. The first one, Magic's baby
sky hook in the garden in nineteen eighty seven. And
I will play the clips just to remind you of
how beautiful these moments were.
Speaker 12 (34:20):
Cooper takes the ball out of bounds baseline, Raymond Worthy
is the left.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Worthy comes as a right, the left goes mad You's
got it. He didn't shoot at five seconds left, Maddie
gotta metal. Just what I thought a hook shot?
Speaker 5 (34:31):
As twelve god two seconds eleven, the Lakers take the
lead on Magic Johnson's running sky hook.
Speaker 7 (34:38):
Hey Jack, that was you, pat Riley, there is.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
I mean a man chick on miss chick. Okay, the
opportunity number two, by the way, number two.
Speaker 7 (34:49):
My six year old just saw the year nineteen eighty
something and he was like one thousand, nine hundred eighty.
Speaker 8 (34:57):
I was like, oh, yeah, you're born man.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Yeah, yeah, that there were numbers from then. Yeah, there
were numbers from then. All right, Jamison moment two. Run
our test that three pointer in Game seven against the
Celtics straight into my veins by looking more tests. Shout
(35:27):
up to my therapists on that one. And then finally,
Kobe Bryant Clutch Finals performance. After Shack goes out Game
four in the two thousand finals, try gets rose. Now
Indiana has five foul.
Speaker 14 (35:38):
The Pacers do not want to fail here, put Kobe.
Speaker 9 (35:41):
On the line.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Kobe fires the jumper and gives La the lead. Okay,
so then here it is, Jamison, of those three moments
in history, which one are you showing up to so
you can witness personally with your eyes?
Speaker 13 (35:55):
Well, I saw the last two like lot on TV. Yeah, yeah,
that the first one. Obviously I was really young, So
I probably on that one because I was way more
intense because of where it was located at the history
at the time, uh, the players on the court. So
I probably go acted that one. The other two I
(36:16):
remember very vividly. I watched the game in four the
third one. I had a lot of money on the
line to that.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
One, so I don't want to.
Speaker 13 (36:25):
But yeah, yeah, I probably the first one.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Yeah, magic baby, skyhooking the godden Yeah, that you.
Speaker 7 (36:32):
Give yourself a sports almanac can become like like con Biff, Yeah, Biff,
all right, Uh face of the n b A for
the next five years?
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Could it be me?
Speaker 8 (36:46):
I don't play basketball, but I don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Not off the table. Now I have this podcast, No Face.
Speaker 8 (36:52):
Of the NBA for the next five years.
Speaker 7 (36:55):
Poor faces number one because he has.
Speaker 13 (36:59):
The personality with the game. Well, there's guys that are
just as talented, but the personality that goes with the
game in the swag.
Speaker 9 (37:05):
It's him.
Speaker 8 (37:06):
Yeah, can we come up with a better nickname for him?
Speaker 7 (37:09):
I feel like somebody was pointing out on Twitter, and
this has been a frequent thing, Like people were like
what happened to NBA nicknames? On Reddit three years ago?
Someone was like, Kemp was Rayman, Peyton Glove, Dominique, the
Human Highlight Film, Barkley, the Round Mound of Rebound, Michael
Jordan Air Jordan, Like these are great poetic nicknames, and
(37:31):
now it's like Anthony Edwards. Well, the first three letters
of his name is ant Okay, okay, we'll call it
him ant man.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Like what about this Tony No, man, that's just like
a normal nickname. Alright, alright, alright, alright, what about Antony?
Speaker 7 (37:48):
No?
Speaker 2 (37:49):
So what about a E.
Speaker 13 (37:52):
The reason why we don't have great nickname any war
is because we know these guys from when they're like
fifteen years old, so there's no mystery anymore. We just
called them by their name or call them whatever nickname
they already have. So we've known them, We've seen them
do AAU seem to do high school. There's no more
intrigue anymore. Back in the day when Sean Kent was
dunking on everybody, that was the first time you saw it.
(38:12):
When we got the NBA, we see all these guys
who are fourteen fifteen years old, right, so there's no
more mister entrigue to them. So it just is what
it is.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
But do you do you personally miss like a good
nickname or are you just like it's fine, let's call
him an, let's call them AE whatever.
Speaker 13 (38:25):
Yeah, I do miss a good nickname. However, the issue
is this, the people will pray nicknames that shouldn't be
doing it. We need people who are cool and have
swag doing it, not people trying to be cool and
to go viral, Like it's two different things, Like you
stand there laying with that. And I think that's a
big issue that we have on social media when it
comes to basketball.
Speaker 7 (38:45):
Whatnot, Like some of them like Barkley being the round
mound of rebound, like that is too sweaty to like
cook for that to work today. Like granted, it's a
lot of fun, but it only as possible because there
were like the beat reporter for the Sixers was like
I came up with this and I'm going to keep
(39:07):
repeating it until everybody else does, you know, like there
was it's like that old media model. Whereas now, like
I don't think you can get the round mound of
rebound started.
Speaker 9 (39:17):
No, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
No, you can't. You can't do like nicknames that sound
like an intro bar and like a Sugarhill Gang rap song,
you know what I mean. It's like rebound It just
like no I'd ever.
Speaker 7 (39:30):
Gone over your friend's as eat and the food just
ain't no good.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Yeah, we need something, that's what we need. We gotta
we gotta go to the next We need we need something.
We need bars. Okay when it comes to these nicknames.
So yeah, the the challenge is out there, all right,
So James, the next question Barkley's Hall of Fame career
or former guest the Matt Boostie's Robert Ory's Hall of Fame.
Speaker 13 (39:54):
Career right by. I would take Barkley's career. He was
a living team, made a lot of money. He's still
making a lot of money. He's he's just he's just
about a famous you want to be. People know you
don't know too much about you, and I think that's
always cool. Uh. But Barkley, Yeah, No, Barkley at one
(40:15):
point time at the top of the player in the NBA,
and that was never the case for Robert or you know,
he had a hell of a career, did what he did.
But I would take Barkley's career ten times.
Speaker 8 (40:24):
Yeah, and we.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Did, of course, say Robert Rory is Hall of Famer.
Speaker 7 (40:27):
He's not a basketball Hall of Fame, but he's in
the much more important Uh.
Speaker 8 (40:32):
Miles and Jack I Mat Boosti's Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
All right, that's gonna do it for this Best of episode.
Speaker 9 (40:37):
We thank you for tuning in and we will see
you next week.
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