November 5, 2024 • 38 mins
It's the heart-to-heart decades in the making.
Tori and Brian finally address their past 'situationship.'
Was it a fling? A thing? Or old-fashioned 'Friends with Benefits?'
And, can this convo finally bring the former couple some much needed closure?
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Misspelling with tory spelling an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Look at how much water you've wait?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Is it a lot? Oh? Mann?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Okay? Should I guzzle it now? Because your your body
will quit. Your body will take a stop, wait, take
it back. It'll go into complete shock and be like,
oh what is this liquid?
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
I told you I started drinking water.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
It doesn't taste. It doesn't taste like diet doctor pepper
or energy drink. Yeah. I drink kombucha on a regular basis.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Every day, health fade. I love them.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Really yes. Okay, well, good, I just shocked you. That's
a good you did. Shock. It's a good thing.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Coconut water Okay, I drink that, hmm.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Okay, that's actually really good for you. Coconut water. The
electrolytes in it are great.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
So from what I've heard, water doesn't actually hydrate you.
People think like, I'm I'm dehydrated. I should drink a
bunch of water, but you're But it's the electrolytes. It's
the salt that you're so you know, when you're sweating,
it's salty the water that's coming out. No, like you
(01:30):
notice if you ever like if the water drips down
your face into your mouth if you like, if you
ever get it, it's a salty So those are that's
the electrolytes.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
So I just learned that.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
So people that, Like, we had Dave Aspbury on our
show and he was talking about he puts like something
like eleven tea spoons of salt in a thing of water,
like when he drinks water during the day, which is
you always here like, oh, salt.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Is bad for your levels or.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
So he was saying that it keeps the electrolytes in
my body balanced at all, like it it's I was like, oh, man,
I had no idea. So, yeah, drinking just plain water
is actually not hydrating you at all, which is why
sports drinks.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Yeah, created never drink water.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Well, like the electrolyte packets in it, those are actually
a lot of work. It's not you just rip them
open and pour them in. It's not a lot of work.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
What about salt water, It's.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Not any more work than popping the top on an
energy drink to drink it. Mhmm. Interesting, you pop the top,
you tear the top, it's the same thing.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
What about salt water? What about salt water Like a
new kind of packaged water.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I don't like ocean water. That's way that the salinity
is way too much.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
No, but like a business like if people, if that's true,
then why not just package it and you.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Should do it? People do though, electrolyte waters and stuff
like that. That's not like new pH pH waters electrolyte
waters sports drinks there also, I'm not not to that.
I'm like shooting down your idea because I think it's
great and you should.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
God gum, when we're young, what eterade? Gum?
Speaker 2 (03:27):
I do?
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Do you remember?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I love Gatorade?
Speaker 3 (03:31):
That because I wasn't the thing that would like it.
Would it would like stimulate your mouth.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Like yeah, wow, Yeah, I'm a big fan of Gatorade.
I'm a big fan of that flavor.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
The green one, the yellow, the OgH sorry.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
The yellow one is the o g one.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
You see it as yellow because I see it as green. Well,
it's like greenish yellow. Are you colored blood?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
No?
Speaker 3 (03:58):
How do you know? No, I'm not because no stereotype.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I do.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
A lot of the boys are are inherently more color
blind or apt to be color blind than women.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
So here's what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Okay, let's test it.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I'm gonna pull up a photo of gatoring and we'll
show it around the room. Get read flavors or.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Colored flavors, because what's the original.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
When we were the lemon line is the original?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
It's like greenish yellow?
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Is that greenish yellow? You're fucked, Ruthanne? Is that greenish
yellow to you? More yellow? It's more yellow?
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Emily hmhmm.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Interesting.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
We need to look at it now.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
On look. I'll even zoom in on it. Steve Green, Sorry,
w what color is the thing on your yellow? Okay? Okay,
so you're okay, so.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
You're not color I'm not color blind.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
I just identifying.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Oh I think I actually have an elevated eye.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
You have an elevated eye, not for color.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
How you think that gatorade is green?
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Well's subjective because it's art correct, it's not color is?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Color? Is is factual? No?
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Based on what?
Speaker 1 (05:51):
No?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
On a color chart?
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Who made that?
Speaker 2 (05:55):
You?
Speaker 3 (05:55):
What?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
You have to mix two colors to get green? Green
is not a primary color. You have to mix yellow
and you have to mix blue to get green.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
You know what? My favorite color is clear?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
What like water? Which is funny because you never drink water.
You would think you do nothing but drink water and
be like my favorite color in the world. Oh, I
love all of this color. I want to fill my
body with this color. But you don't no what color
(06:34):
are sports drinks typically? Like what color is like a
red bull?
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Oh it is colored like yellow green. I don't look
at it. I drink it out of a can pop top. Okay,
better than ripping it. That'll electrolyte. Actually, my favorite color
is green. Let's not joke. Is it not my favorite cover?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
And then why did you say it was clear that
that was.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
A joke, got it?
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (07:08):
I don't make you laugh often.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
That's not true.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Kind of not really.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
We when we were doing the podcast, we made a
point of like not laughing at but because we know
that's the direction you go is you go funny, quirky,
like that's kind of your out, that's your easy way
of dealing with the situation, be in a weirdo and
like cracking jokes and all that. So we were like, Okay,
(07:36):
let's not react to those things and force you like
to stay in the uncomfortableness of the conversation, which I
think was great. Yes, I think I love that conversation.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Yeah, it's like that was really conversation.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Watch it so great to watch it. It was so
and I think for fans of you, it was really
cool because people got to see much more of the
tory that I know that Randy knows, like with your
guard down a little bit, like it was, it felt
(08:11):
really like nice and genuine and I and I watched
that episode a few times, and I don't normally, but
I really like, I really loved that conversation. I loved
your vulnerability in that. I thought it was really good.
But then I was like, God, she hasn't ever had
me on her show since, Like I see all these
people coming on, and I'm like, got she You know,
(08:33):
originally we had talked about me doing her show and
she just never reached out and never so I thought
maybe you had a bad experience or something.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
On the port or you took it personally. It wasn't
about you.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
It's true, which everybody does.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
I know, and it's just a call. Okay, it's because
you snort too much.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
That's why that's why I didn't you didn't have me
on sooner because I snorre.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
I actually asked you. We texted when you were reprising
Oldish and you were showing me some of the artwork
that you guys had done. I was like, this looks amazing.
I'm so excited. And then oh, it took everything in
my being to be like, will you do my podcast?
And you said yes? And then why did it take
(09:26):
so long for you to be on? Because I was
scared to ask you again? I'm scared. I got to
stop using that word. I'm not scared.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
God, I don't even remember that honestly, because like, as
soon as you asked me to be on this time,
I jumped at it. You didn't, yeah, absolutely, like made
sure that that it happened. I don't. I don't know,
but I think this order was better. I agree you
(09:56):
doing Oldish first.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
I agree doing my podcast, I was that was my default,
like being funny and being ballsy and like uh. And
then I started to notice the difference when I did
an episode and I was speaking from my heart and
(10:18):
talking about Shan and when I listened back, I was like, wow,
I do have stuff to say, like I like do people.
Because before that, I was like, well, if I can
be funny, then it's easy.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
It's easier for me.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Yeah, Like it's just and I because that's just my
own insecurity, like they don't think I have anything of
depth to say, or I'm not smart enough, I can't
hold a conversation, which isn't true. So I heard that
episode and I was like, wow, very eloquent, like poignant,
like I I really enjoyed it. So and then same
(10:54):
when I did Oldish, like yeah, same like this episode, Yeah,
this isn't funny at all, Right, that's.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Funny, funny moments in it, not nearly Old Oldish was
like I was so good though, so good. But I
warned you ahead of time. When you were like, hey,
can I come do the show? I was like, we
and I coined this from Dave Chappelle. I always give
(11:23):
them credit. We we play hard in the paint, like
we do not hold back. There was there was a
question that I wanted to get to with you when
you were on the show that I didn't that I
just spaced on or it just didn't fit.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Are you gonna ask me now?
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Yeah? So I'll ask you know on your on your podcast,
because that's the way we rolled. You have spoken in
books prior prior to this about the relationship that we had.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
Mm hm.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
So I I've all I've always been curious about that
because we I don't consider what we had and have
like a relationship like a fling or like a you know, well,
(12:22):
we were a boyfriend and girlfriend for this period of time,
like we were because it was a ten year period,
so we went through all sorts of things. So I
was curious, though, why you labeled it as a relationship
in the in the books and if you felt like
(12:44):
it was like you felt like it was.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
I wanted to ask you about this today too, a
nice face. Oh I just got really hot, that's okay.
I'm curious how I did and did I phrase it
as a boyfriend or out of context like they do
with podcasts, that was the catching news and they I'd
(13:11):
have to go back and look.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
But yeah, I don't, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
I don't think I ever said because yeah, we definitely,
I think as yeah, in our youth, I think I
probably phimes wow, look at me and never had a
loss for words, perceived it differently than you did, which
(13:37):
as adults makes sense. I mean, yeah, I mean I
want to say it was a crush, but it was
more than that. There was like a summer.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Correct, Yeah, okay, yes, so we we had much more
like so we had it was it was a strange
chemistry that we had.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
We had like a sexual chemistry that we would kind
of uh tease each other with a little bit and
we would kind of like jump into and then we'd
quickly jump out of and because we were through it
all like we were really good friends. We were brother
(14:30):
and sister. Like we we covered the gambit of what
a relationship could be, which is why then when I
when people come to me and be like, oh, yeah,
so you and Tory were dating for a while, right,
it was like, I, that's too easy of a label
for me. Oh wow, like for you, for you to
(14:52):
say that we were dating, It's like, no, we were.
We were much more than dating, Like we we never
ever win anyone and we were like, oh, we're boyfriend
and girlfriend and held hands and did like we never
did the typical dating thing. So it's a weird. I
don't know how you label that. But then when I
saw a label, I was like I or somebody told me, oh, there,
(15:15):
she labeled it as this in a book. I was like,
that's but that's not I don't feel like I did.
That was never the case, Like it wasn't ever, we
did so much more than that, and we fought like
we fought like brother and sister sometimes about stupid stuff
about like who was on the cover of what, or
who got more press at a thing, or like.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
You and I, Yeah, we would we would have those
weird argument about that stuff.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
We would.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
I remember having those weird arguments where like that was
always kind of the clapback we would give to each other,
like if we were arguing about something, Yeah, well you're
just upset because I was on the cover of the
or I did this, like we would every once in
a while.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
That made that joke to you. Do you think I
would make a joke like that?
Speaker 2 (15:59):
You did make it? You think it's I'm not speaking
as like I.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Maybe if you said it first, I like joined suit.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Sure, okay, that's what it wants.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
To tease me a lot. We teased No, I had to.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
I teased you.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
No. We so we teased each other, like how did
it all start teasing? Like if we're gonna talk see,
I don't even know how to even say it, Like
if we're going to talk towards the sexual chemistry for
one second or two or three, like what the teasing
was kind of a part of the part like a flirtation.
(16:39):
So here, so I didn't know. I went to an
all girls' school, so it was like I was like, like.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
So then, so then here was the thing for me
I came from. I was like the hyperactive, kind of geeky,
annoying kid in school. All of a sudden, I'm on
a show where people are noticing me and paying attention
to me. But I still had like I had no game.
(17:08):
I had like I never used it before. I'd know,
I had no concept of what was cool. And so
to me, when it was like I was attracted to somebody,
that's what I did, Like I it's what kids do,
like they're they tease and they poke and they do
those things right, And I didn't know any different, you know,
(17:30):
And I was young and we were and our the
majority of our like any sort of chemistry or sexual
connection was when we were young on the show, because
then as we progressed, then we had relationships and things changed,
and you know, and we were there for a while
in our relationship, then our connection together change took.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Into old habits once in a blue moon, right, But.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
But that was like that was very much my I
my way of like flirting was being I'm like, I mean,
I've always been you know me, I've always been like
a bit of a chit starter, like I like to
s it's fun. It's fun, it's fun. But you know,
(18:20):
now I've I definitely have a much healthier way now
of seeing of reading the room and knowing who I
can have that with and who I can't. Like, I
remember when I first started doing uh Special Forces the
show Black China, Angela and I we like we started
(18:46):
in a very kind of fun, playful like she would
talk trash, I would talk trash, like we would joke
with each other. And then all of a sudden, when
she didn't react well to it in the tent, I
was like, what the just happened? Like how did? Everyone
was like what happened? I was like, I don't know,
you know, nothing has changed with her, But she took
(19:09):
it in a different way, which then made me rethink like, Okay,
this is not somebody that I can have that same
place to banter with and feel like everything's fine. We
ended up like and we ended up getting along great.
We've had no issue since then.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
It was literally like a an adjustment.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
It was a thirty second thing, but they the way
they edited the show, they made it seem like we
had some actual beef. And then the next, very next
episode came out and they never spoke about it again
because there was nothing more that happened from that point forward.
But I so I've always been that way with people.
(19:49):
I just know how to better read the room than
I did then, Like I didn't understand that you were
as sensitive to things that I said as you were,
and that you really took them to heart and they
bothered you.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
The way I liked you. I had a crush on you,
like of course, like I don't know, anyone else could
say something and it probably wouldn't have effected me, but
I liked you so much that I mean, yeah, but
I guess I didn't. It's not like I like backed
away and was like, oh, he hates me, he doesn't
like me. Like I played game, I guess I still was.
(20:31):
It was because I'm really good at fitting in not
fitting in. Yeah, get that too, but especially with the
opposite sex. I am quite good at like reading what
they need me to be on their playing field, right,
which isn't always a good thing because then I lose
(20:53):
me again. So but yeah, like I still like, I'm
still self content, just like I was stuttering now about
like peach fuzz on my face because you used to
call me Chewbacca at sixteen. I was like, what the heck?
And you used to do the roar I'd walk on
the set.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
I can't do the roar? What do you mean I can't?
I don't do the roar? I did? Okay, I did, Yes,
I did, And I.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Went through life thinking I had like oh and lamb
chops like it's like I.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
No, I no, I never. I never said like anything
beyond chew Bac I would and that was it. That
was a joke. That was a joke. Shit, I'm sorry
if that like negatively affected you because that was never
(21:53):
my that was never my intention. I think.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
I just mean again I had no like.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
I didn't know, but everybody does. So everybody's got.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
I mean, I'm not trying to make you feel bad,
but every guy to this day. If I'm like with
a guy, I'm like worried, like does he think my
cheeks are fuzzy?
Speaker 2 (22:18):
So so you're saying that I created like a lifelong.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Trauma, trauma not on purpose.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
No, it was no not on purpose, but still I'm sorry. No, no, no,
has anybody ever told you you look like Chewbacca? Really?
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Because my my six year old no label here he
told me, did.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
You look like Chewbacca?
Speaker 3 (22:41):
No, you're six years Oh I was talking about you
back when we were sixteen. Yeah, that sounded like I
was talking about a kid in my No, my sixteen
year old crush like no label, not boyfriend. He told
me I look like chewbaxa So I didn't imagine, like, so, okay,
Chewbacca to you?
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Like all I wanted was in defense of myself, because
I for sure need a fucking defense of myself on
this I did. I really wasn't aware of the crush
that you had, Like, I wasn't aware of how how
(23:24):
that could affect you. Like I thought you were attracted
to me kind of the same way I was attracted
to you. So it was like, Okay, it's it's more
playful and like, it's not. I didn't. I didn't think
it was deep and would.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Affect you the difference.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
What do you mean?
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Hmm?
Speaker 2 (23:49):
If you had said something to me, I wouldn't have
taken such offense to it, and it wouldn't have stuck
with me so long because it was I didn't have
a lot writing on us having a relationship or not,
or like it wasn't right.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
I understand that, but I didn't either. It was just
and I hate saying the female version, but like I
don't know, Like I went to school with all girls.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
I was.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
This is the boy that I liked.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
There was a girl in school that I had a
crush on. And if she would have said to me,
you know, anything negative, that would have stuck with me
for a long time for sure.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Wit So you didn't like me that much?
Speaker 2 (24:33):
I a great I didn't. I didn't have a crush
on you.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
What did you have on me? Then a first boyfriend?
Speaker 2 (24:43):
I do? And then I remember you complaining about that.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
I dumped him because I liked you, but like used
to get in fights with me right over silly stuff,
and like when he was around, it was weird.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Ish when he was around. When he was around because
I had a crush on you, or when he was
around because I didn't think it was a good relationship.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Oh wait, wait, not that guy. Oh oh oh no, no, no,
you were supposed.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
To the guys I had issues with.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
So no, rightfully, so actually my very Oh wait, so
I didn't start liking bad boys till after my first boyfriend,
who I broke up with because I liked you. So
perhaps you're responsible for the bad choices I've made with
men my entire life.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Fair shit. Okay, So his you'll.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Remember when I tell you his name was Ryan, right,
He went to Birmingham, drove him the valley. Super nice guy. Yeah,
great guy. I went to prom with him. Yeah, he
went to Arizona for college. And then I yeah, and
then yeah, what happened?
Speaker 2 (25:57):
I just I really liked you, so so you broke
it off with h Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Not because I thought you and I were going to
be in a relationship, but I couldn't focus on him
because I was attracted to it.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Just we were working together every day.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
And then Disneyland happened, and then.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Disney Florida, Disney World.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
That was before. Yeah, I think we fought.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
We fought a lot at Disney World.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Disney was there, My mom was there, and he was
there too. He was there, He was there, and that
was the trip that I unders Oh my god, you
it was more than just like when you would say
things to me that I was like, oh, he's what
are we calling it? He's sexually attracted to me, Like,
(26:46):
but you don't think it at that age, but like
that's when I got it because you and I thought,
Remember we had to go on stage and present and
we had a huge blowout fight before.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
We used to have those huge blowout fights for a lot. Yeah,
we were like we and I think a lot of
that was like attraction and a lot of that was
like really coming of age in it all it was
it was a yeah, there was there was a lot
(27:17):
that was going on. So that's so that's always been
the reason why for me. It's like when people go, oh, yeah,
weren't you guys dating, It's like, right, we know, we
like we lived a whole lifetime. We had ten years
of the most insane life that you could possibly have.
So to label it as that, it like belittles to
(27:38):
me what our relationship is. It belittles to me what
my relationship with anyone. When any when anyone is like, oh, yeah,
you lost your cast made It's like no, I lost
my brother or my sister. Like it's a different, it's
deeper than that. So when people when when people talk
to me and they go, oh, I've been devastated. It's like,
(27:59):
I get it your devastation because you lost a character
that you love right watching on the show. I lost
a family member. So it's a different thing, you know. Yeah,
And that label of like oh, boyfriend, girlfriend or you dated,
it's like that's not that almost felt disrespectful to me
(28:21):
because it's like, no, we went through way more than
just what normal people go through when they're dating, Like oh, yeah,
we dated and then we broke up. Like we never
did anything. We never broke up. We never said like
you know, it's just you and me, like let's try,
like we never were. There were never any like boundaries
or rules or anything set to it because it like it.
(28:44):
It showed itself in so many different ways. There were
so many different iterations of it throughout ten years.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Can we go back to Disneyland, yes, disney World nope,
Disneyland correct, the.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Stage that came up out of the ground, Disneyland No, because.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
See I'm going to remember it differently than you. Okay,
so Disneyland. We I don't know why we got like
all it starts from Fox. We had like a night there.
It was like they closed down the park and it
was like people there but it was all like kind
(29:24):
of internal Jenny was there.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Okay, I don't remember it at all. I know it's
so I have those things sometimes where it's like I
have zero memory of that, but please fill me in
because then all the place is irrelevant.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Okay, what happened that night is what I'm referring to. Okay,
we don't remember that.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
No, what.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Shit?
Speaker 2 (29:50):
And you're you're judging me now?
Speaker 3 (29:52):
No no, no, no, no, I'm judging myself for mentioning it.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Say whatever you want.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Do we have sex that the first night we slept together? Yes?
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Oh no, that wasn't that?
Speaker 3 (30:05):
What do you where do you think it was?
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Wasn't it it like Shannon's house? No?
Speaker 3 (30:12):
And I no, I remember it like because I'm oh,
you were only the second guy I ever slept with,
so like obviously I remember it more like eventful, not eventful,
do you know what I mean? Like I remember details. Yeah,
it was like after the disney World trip in Florida.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Disney World was after that.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
It was after that we were at Disneyland.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
It was like a night Wait, so Disneyland is here,
disney World is out there, so which it's at Disneyland here.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
We had sex for the first time at Disneyland, Disneyland
Land in California, California.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Correct, at Disneyland, yeah, really yeah, but in your hotel
Oh my god. Oh okay, so not in Disneyland, like
not on a ride or anything like that, like in
the Disneyland hotel hotel, yes, correct, but like for me, yeah,
it was just like we.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Were fighting so much and I was like, yeah, anyway
that night drunk, uh huh okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Yeah, okay, I mean yeah, because that was kind of
a theme for that early like then, Yeah, like we
were like going out a lot.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
But there was a moment where we were fighting and
we were in the middle of Disneyland and there were
people around. I'm not going to get it right now.
I feel blame.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
I feel so don't feel blame. Don't feel stupid.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
I feel like such a stupid girl.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
No, because you have a better memory than I do,
so good for you.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Okay, So I'm going to hide my face wise while
I tell you this, because you're looking at my true box.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
I'm actually not okay, So you're doing okay.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Thank you, But you know it's not just you. You know,
my memory is very specific, like it's not like I'm
I mean, obviously it was special to me, but I
remember really obscure things.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
So okay.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
So it was in front of.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Space Mountain and was it really okay?
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Oh no, what's the one the mountain mad Horn, Mati Horn.
There was a bunch of people and we were having
our usual fighting and then you said. I was like,
why why are you always getting mad? Why are you
why are we always fighting? And you said, have you
ever thought that maybe I fight with you because I
(32:42):
love you? No? No, I did not, Yeah, and you
were probably saying like I love you, like we're sister
brother like friends. And I was like, oh, he said,
I love you. And then we started kissing.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Wait what I love this story. I feel like I'm
like hearing a story of you and someone else right now.
Oh my god, this is because it's it's kind of epic.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Yeah, I mean, because we were we're it was like
out of a John Hughes.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Movie, Like literally, that's amazing.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Fighting and fighting like you everything the reason is because
I love you. And then you started kissing me in
the middle of public and I was like, oh my god,
there's people and he's kissing me like this is crazy.
And then You're like, do you want to get And
I'm like yeah, and we like and then yeah, I
remember the next morning, I can see, like in the
(33:43):
hotel calling Jenny on the payphone. Would that even be
a thing? No, not payphone, like the we can pick
up the phone and call up to the rooms. They
didn't even have that anymore, right, Yeah, okay? And lobby phone,
lobby phone, Yeah, okay. I was supposed to meet her
(34:03):
and Dan. She was with her first husband Dan at
the time, and yeah, she was the first person. I
was like, you're not gonna believe what happened, Like Brian
and I slept together. She was like what, I'm like, yeah, no, anyway,
what did she say?
Speaker 5 (34:20):
I don't remember, God, I do not so I remember
other times, but I do not remember that time at all.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
I don't know how that's possible.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
I remember because it's me boring.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
I can boobs none. I can only assume.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Wait what so like now they have like I don't
know what's the version of stuff in your bra? Now
girls do, like they have the ones they sell and
the Amazon. But back then, I remember, like I didn't
have my boobs done, and I like we would put
tiss you.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
And I remember, wait, I remember that. Wait it was
me pulling it out. Yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Yes, yes, I remember sleeping with me one time.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
No, I saw I remember all. I remember a lot
of other times, but not that time. But I do
remember that the tissue. Yeah, that's hysterical. Oh my god.
Oh I remember that. That was all I needed. That
was the the visual for me, flashed me right back
(35:32):
into I remember that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Anyway, Wait, I'm so curious, like we have had and
we'll continue to have such a great relationship based on
so many things, because it's a lot of people have
friendships for an eternity, but like it was a combined thing.
And I wonder how, like you can't label it, but
(36:01):
what word? Like I wish there was a wording we
could make.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Up that would family. Here, you're, well, you.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Don't fuck your family, but no, no.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
You don't, not in a healthy family.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
No, I don't know. It's a good one though. Yeah,
it's like it really evolved. Yeah, term, but I don't
know what it would be.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Long long relation we have. We've been in each other's
lives longer than we haven't. You're right, Yeah, it's interesting
to think. Yeah, we were sixteen when we met. We're
now both fifty one.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
I know, wait, did you know that twenty twenty five
will mark the twenty five year wedding anniversary of David
and Donna. That's I just thought about the other day.
The same year though, like, because we went off the
air in two thousand. Yeah, we got married. It was
the final episode. So if you think about it, right,
(37:11):
twenty five years and it's the golden Like, is that
the golden wedding anniversary twenty five? It's supposed to be
gold golden not golden?
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Yeah? Yeah, no, wait, golden is fifty oh okay, right.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
But twenty five is a huge, like a big marker.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Yeah, I forget what that's called. And then diamond is
a is one hundred seventy five? One hundred is ridiculous.
Nobody is married for one hundred years. Most people aren't
alive for one hundred years. You're looking it up right now,
are you.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
It's the silver silver, David, Oh my silver. This is
what's even crazier. Twenty five twenty twenty five will mark
the twenty five wedding anniversary of David and Jonnas silver.
Speaker 5 (37:58):
What the fuck?
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Bam? Look at how that worked.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
That's cool.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Okay, this has been super fun. This has been like
a fun stroll down like Memory Lane and Funck. We
have so many memories. I have so many memories. I
have so many memories of your shitty relationships, like so
many of going.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Well, you don't have to think that hard.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Thanks for listening, everybody. Let's save that one for another episode,
shall we.
Misspelling with tory spelling an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Look at how much water you've wait?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Is it a lot? Oh? Mann?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Okay? Should I guzzle it now? Because your your body
will quit. Your body will take a stop, wait, take
it back. It'll go into complete shock and be like,
oh what is this liquid?
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
I told you I started drinking water.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
It doesn't taste. It doesn't taste like diet doctor pepper
or energy drink. Yeah. I drink kombucha on a regular basis.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Every day, health fade. I love them.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Really yes. Okay, well, good, I just shocked you. That's
a good you did. Shock. It's a good thing.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Coconut water Okay, I drink that, hmm.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Okay, that's actually really good for you. Coconut water. The
electrolytes in it are great.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
So from what I've heard, water doesn't actually hydrate you.
People think like, I'm I'm dehydrated. I should drink a
bunch of water, but you're But it's the electrolytes. It's
the salt that you're so you know, when you're sweating,
it's salty the water that's coming out. No, like you
(01:30):
notice if you ever like if the water drips down
your face into your mouth if you like, if you
ever get it, it's a salty So those are that's
the electrolytes.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
So I just learned that.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
So people that, Like, we had Dave Aspbury on our
show and he was talking about he puts like something
like eleven tea spoons of salt in a thing of water,
like when he drinks water during the day, which is
you always here like, oh, salt.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Is bad for your levels or.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
So he was saying that it keeps the electrolytes in
my body balanced at all, like it it's I was like, oh, man,
I had no idea. So, yeah, drinking just plain water
is actually not hydrating you at all, which is why
sports drinks.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Yeah, created never drink water.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Well, like the electrolyte packets in it, those are actually
a lot of work. It's not you just rip them
open and pour them in. It's not a lot of work.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
What about salt water, It's.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Not any more work than popping the top on an
energy drink to drink it. Mhmm. Interesting, you pop the top,
you tear the top, it's the same thing.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
What about salt water? What about salt water Like a
new kind of packaged water.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I don't like ocean water. That's way that the salinity
is way too much.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
No, but like a business like if people, if that's true,
then why not just package it and you.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Should do it? People do though, electrolyte waters and stuff
like that. That's not like new pH pH waters electrolyte
waters sports drinks there also, I'm not not to that.
I'm like shooting down your idea because I think it's
great and you should.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
God gum, when we're young, what eterade? Gum?
Speaker 2 (03:27):
I do?
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Do you remember?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I love Gatorade?
Speaker 3 (03:31):
That because I wasn't the thing that would like it.
Would it would like stimulate your mouth.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Like yeah, wow, Yeah, I'm a big fan of Gatorade.
I'm a big fan of that flavor.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
The green one, the yellow, the OgH sorry.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
The yellow one is the o g one.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
You see it as yellow because I see it as green. Well,
it's like greenish yellow. Are you colored blood?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
No?
Speaker 3 (03:58):
How do you know? No, I'm not because no stereotype.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I do.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
A lot of the boys are are inherently more color
blind or apt to be color blind than women.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
So here's what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Okay, let's test it.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I'm gonna pull up a photo of gatoring and we'll
show it around the room. Get read flavors or.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Colored flavors, because what's the original.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
When we were the lemon line is the original?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
It's like greenish yellow?
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Is that greenish yellow? You're fucked, Ruthanne? Is that greenish
yellow to you? More yellow? It's more yellow?
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Emily hmhmm.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Interesting.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
We need to look at it now.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
On look. I'll even zoom in on it. Steve Green, Sorry,
w what color is the thing on your yellow? Okay? Okay,
so you're okay, so.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
You're not color I'm not color blind.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
I just identifying.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Oh I think I actually have an elevated eye.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
You have an elevated eye, not for color.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
How you think that gatorade is green?
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Well's subjective because it's art correct, it's not color is?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Color? Is is factual? No?
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Based on what?
Speaker 1 (05:51):
No?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
On a color chart?
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Who made that?
Speaker 2 (05:55):
You?
Speaker 3 (05:55):
What?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
You have to mix two colors to get green? Green
is not a primary color. You have to mix yellow
and you have to mix blue to get green.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
You know what? My favorite color is clear?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
What like water? Which is funny because you never drink water.
You would think you do nothing but drink water and
be like my favorite color in the world. Oh, I
love all of this color. I want to fill my
body with this color. But you don't no what color
(06:34):
are sports drinks typically? Like what color is like a
red bull?
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Oh it is colored like yellow green. I don't look
at it. I drink it out of a can pop top. Okay,
better than ripping it. That'll electrolyte. Actually, my favorite color
is green. Let's not joke. Is it not my favorite cover?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
And then why did you say it was clear that
that was.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
A joke, got it?
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (07:08):
I don't make you laugh often.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
That's not true.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Kind of not really.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
We when we were doing the podcast, we made a
point of like not laughing at but because we know
that's the direction you go is you go funny, quirky,
like that's kind of your out, that's your easy way
of dealing with the situation, be in a weirdo and
like cracking jokes and all that. So we were like, Okay,
(07:36):
let's not react to those things and force you like
to stay in the uncomfortableness of the conversation, which I
think was great. Yes, I think I love that conversation.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Yeah, it's like that was really conversation.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Watch it so great to watch it. It was so
and I think for fans of you, it was really
cool because people got to see much more of the
tory that I know that Randy knows, like with your
guard down a little bit, like it was, it felt
(08:11):
really like nice and genuine and I and I watched
that episode a few times, and I don't normally, but
I really like, I really loved that conversation. I loved
your vulnerability in that. I thought it was really good.
But then I was like, God, she hasn't ever had
me on her show since, Like I see all these
people coming on, and I'm like, got she You know,
(08:33):
originally we had talked about me doing her show and
she just never reached out and never so I thought
maybe you had a bad experience or something.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
On the port or you took it personally. It wasn't
about you.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
It's true, which everybody does.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
I know, and it's just a call. Okay, it's because
you snort too much.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
That's why that's why I didn't you didn't have me
on sooner because I snorre.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
I actually asked you. We texted when you were reprising
Oldish and you were showing me some of the artwork
that you guys had done. I was like, this looks amazing.
I'm so excited. And then oh, it took everything in
my being to be like, will you do my podcast?
And you said yes? And then why did it take
(09:26):
so long for you to be on? Because I was
scared to ask you again? I'm scared. I got to
stop using that word. I'm not scared.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
God, I don't even remember that honestly, because like, as
soon as you asked me to be on this time,
I jumped at it. You didn't, yeah, absolutely, like made
sure that that it happened. I don't. I don't know,
but I think this order was better. I agree you
(09:56):
doing Oldish first.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
I agree doing my podcast, I was that was my default,
like being funny and being ballsy and like uh. And
then I started to notice the difference when I did
an episode and I was speaking from my heart and
(10:18):
talking about Shan and when I listened back, I was like, wow,
I do have stuff to say, like I like do people.
Because before that, I was like, well, if I can
be funny, then it's easy.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
It's easier for me.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Yeah, Like it's just and I because that's just my
own insecurity, like they don't think I have anything of
depth to say, or I'm not smart enough, I can't
hold a conversation, which isn't true. So I heard that
episode and I was like, wow, very eloquent, like poignant,
like I I really enjoyed it. So and then same
(10:54):
when I did Oldish, like yeah, same like this episode, Yeah,
this isn't funny at all, Right, that's.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Funny, funny moments in it, not nearly Old Oldish was
like I was so good though, so good. But I
warned you ahead of time. When you were like, hey,
can I come do the show? I was like, we
and I coined this from Dave Chappelle. I always give
(11:23):
them credit. We we play hard in the paint, like
we do not hold back. There was there was a
question that I wanted to get to with you when
you were on the show that I didn't that I
just spaced on or it just didn't fit.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Are you gonna ask me now?
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Yeah? So I'll ask you know on your on your podcast,
because that's the way we rolled. You have spoken in
books prior prior to this about the relationship that we had.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
Mm hm.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
So I I've all I've always been curious about that
because we I don't consider what we had and have
like a relationship like a fling or like a you know, well,
(12:22):
we were a boyfriend and girlfriend for this period of time,
like we were because it was a ten year period,
so we went through all sorts of things. So I
was curious, though, why you labeled it as a relationship
in the in the books and if you felt like
(12:44):
it was like you felt like it was.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
I wanted to ask you about this today too, a
nice face. Oh I just got really hot, that's okay.
I'm curious how I did and did I phrase it
as a boyfriend or out of context like they do
with podcasts, that was the catching news and they I'd
(13:11):
have to go back and look.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
But yeah, I don't, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
I don't think I ever said because yeah, we definitely,
I think as yeah, in our youth, I think I
probably phimes wow, look at me and never had a
loss for words, perceived it differently than you did, which
(13:37):
as adults makes sense. I mean, yeah, I mean I
want to say it was a crush, but it was
more than that. There was like a summer.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Correct, Yeah, okay, yes, so we we had much more
like so we had it was it was a strange
chemistry that we had.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
We had like a sexual chemistry that we would kind
of uh tease each other with a little bit and
we would kind of like jump into and then we'd
quickly jump out of and because we were through it
all like we were really good friends. We were brother
(14:30):
and sister. Like we we covered the gambit of what
a relationship could be, which is why then when I
when people come to me and be like, oh, yeah,
so you and Tory were dating for a while, right,
it was like, I, that's too easy of a label
for me. Oh wow, like for you, for you to
(14:52):
say that we were dating, It's like, no, we were.
We were much more than dating, Like we we never
ever win anyone and we were like, oh, we're boyfriend
and girlfriend and held hands and did like we never
did the typical dating thing. So it's a weird. I
don't know how you label that. But then when I
saw a label, I was like I or somebody told me, oh, there,
(15:15):
she labeled it as this in a book. I was like,
that's but that's not I don't feel like I did.
That was never the case, Like it wasn't ever, we
did so much more than that, and we fought like
we fought like brother and sister sometimes about stupid stuff
about like who was on the cover of what, or
who got more press at a thing, or like.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
You and I, Yeah, we would we would have those
weird argument about that stuff.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
We would.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
I remember having those weird arguments where like that was
always kind of the clapback we would give to each other,
like if we were arguing about something, Yeah, well you're
just upset because I was on the cover of the
or I did this, like we would every once in
a while.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
That made that joke to you. Do you think I
would make a joke like that?
Speaker 2 (15:59):
You did make it? You think it's I'm not speaking
as like I.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Maybe if you said it first, I like joined suit.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Sure, okay, that's what it wants.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
To tease me a lot. We teased No, I had to.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
I teased you.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
No. We so we teased each other, like how did
it all start teasing? Like if we're gonna talk see,
I don't even know how to even say it, Like
if we're going to talk towards the sexual chemistry for
one second or two or three, like what the teasing
was kind of a part of the part like a flirtation.
(16:39):
So here, so I didn't know. I went to an
all girls' school, so it was like I was like, like.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
So then, so then here was the thing for me
I came from. I was like the hyperactive, kind of geeky,
annoying kid in school. All of a sudden, I'm on
a show where people are noticing me and paying attention
to me. But I still had like I had no game.
(17:08):
I had like I never used it before. I'd know,
I had no concept of what was cool. And so
to me, when it was like I was attracted to somebody,
that's what I did, Like I it's what kids do,
like they're they tease and they poke and they do
those things right, And I didn't know any different, you know,
(17:30):
And I was young and we were and our the
majority of our like any sort of chemistry or sexual
connection was when we were young on the show, because
then as we progressed, then we had relationships and things changed,
and you know, and we were there for a while
in our relationship, then our connection together change took.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Into old habits once in a blue moon, right, But.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
But that was like that was very much my I
my way of like flirting was being I'm like, I mean,
I've always been you know me, I've always been like
a bit of a chit starter, like I like to
s it's fun. It's fun, it's fun. But you know,
(18:20):
now I've I definitely have a much healthier way now
of seeing of reading the room and knowing who I
can have that with and who I can't. Like, I
remember when I first started doing uh Special Forces the
show Black China, Angela and I we like we started
(18:46):
in a very kind of fun, playful like she would
talk trash, I would talk trash, like we would joke
with each other. And then all of a sudden, when
she didn't react well to it in the tent, I
was like, what the just happened? Like how did? Everyone
was like what happened? I was like, I don't know,
you know, nothing has changed with her, But she took
(19:09):
it in a different way, which then made me rethink like, Okay,
this is not somebody that I can have that same
place to banter with and feel like everything's fine. We
ended up like and we ended up getting along great.
We've had no issue since then.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
It was literally like a an adjustment.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
It was a thirty second thing, but they the way
they edited the show, they made it seem like we
had some actual beef. And then the next, very next
episode came out and they never spoke about it again
because there was nothing more that happened from that point forward.
But I so I've always been that way with people.
(19:49):
I just know how to better read the room than
I did then, Like I didn't understand that you were
as sensitive to things that I said as you were,
and that you really took them to heart and they
bothered you.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
The way I liked you. I had a crush on you,
like of course, like I don't know, anyone else could
say something and it probably wouldn't have effected me, but
I liked you so much that I mean, yeah, but
I guess I didn't. It's not like I like backed
away and was like, oh, he hates me, he doesn't
like me. Like I played game, I guess I still was.
(20:31):
It was because I'm really good at fitting in not
fitting in. Yeah, get that too, but especially with the
opposite sex. I am quite good at like reading what
they need me to be on their playing field, right,
which isn't always a good thing because then I lose
(20:53):
me again. So but yeah, like I still like, I'm
still self content, just like I was stuttering now about
like peach fuzz on my face because you used to
call me Chewbacca at sixteen. I was like, what the heck?
And you used to do the roar I'd walk on
the set.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
I can't do the roar? What do you mean I can't?
I don't do the roar? I did? Okay, I did, Yes,
I did, And I.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Went through life thinking I had like oh and lamb
chops like it's like I.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
No, I no, I never. I never said like anything
beyond chew Bac I would and that was it. That
was a joke. That was a joke. Shit, I'm sorry
if that like negatively affected you because that was never
(21:53):
my that was never my intention. I think.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
I just mean again I had no like.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
I didn't know, but everybody does. So everybody's got.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
I mean, I'm not trying to make you feel bad,
but every guy to this day. If I'm like with
a guy, I'm like worried, like does he think my
cheeks are fuzzy?
Speaker 2 (22:18):
So so you're saying that I created like a lifelong.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Trauma, trauma not on purpose.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
No, it was no not on purpose, but still I'm sorry. No, no, no,
has anybody ever told you you look like Chewbacca? Really?
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Because my my six year old no label here he
told me, did.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
You look like Chewbacca?
Speaker 3 (22:41):
No, you're six years Oh I was talking about you
back when we were sixteen. Yeah, that sounded like I
was talking about a kid in my No, my sixteen
year old crush like no label, not boyfriend. He told
me I look like chewbaxa So I didn't imagine, like, so, okay,
Chewbacca to you?
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Like all I wanted was in defense of myself, because
I for sure need a fucking defense of myself on
this I did. I really wasn't aware of the crush
that you had, Like, I wasn't aware of how how
(23:24):
that could affect you. Like I thought you were attracted
to me kind of the same way I was attracted
to you. So it was like, Okay, it's it's more
playful and like, it's not. I didn't. I didn't think
it was deep and would.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Affect you the difference.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
What do you mean?
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Hmm?
Speaker 2 (23:49):
If you had said something to me, I wouldn't have
taken such offense to it, and it wouldn't have stuck
with me so long because it was I didn't have
a lot writing on us having a relationship or not,
or like it wasn't right.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
I understand that, but I didn't either. It was just
and I hate saying the female version, but like I
don't know, Like I went to school with all girls.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
I was.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
This is the boy that I liked.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
There was a girl in school that I had a
crush on. And if she would have said to me,
you know, anything negative, that would have stuck with me
for a long time for sure.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Wit So you didn't like me that much?
Speaker 2 (24:33):
I a great I didn't. I didn't have a crush
on you.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
What did you have on me? Then a first boyfriend?
Speaker 2 (24:43):
I do? And then I remember you complaining about that.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
I dumped him because I liked you, but like used
to get in fights with me right over silly stuff,
and like when he was around, it was weird.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Ish when he was around. When he was around because
I had a crush on you, or when he was
around because I didn't think it was a good relationship.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Oh wait, wait, not that guy. Oh oh oh no, no, no,
you were supposed.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
To the guys I had issues with.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
So no, rightfully, so actually my very Oh wait, so
I didn't start liking bad boys till after my first boyfriend,
who I broke up with because I liked you. So
perhaps you're responsible for the bad choices I've made with
men my entire life.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Fair shit. Okay, So his you'll.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Remember when I tell you his name was Ryan, right,
He went to Birmingham, drove him the valley. Super nice guy. Yeah,
great guy. I went to prom with him. Yeah, he
went to Arizona for college. And then I yeah, and
then yeah, what happened?
Speaker 2 (25:57):
I just I really liked you, so so you broke
it off with h Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Not because I thought you and I were going to
be in a relationship, but I couldn't focus on him
because I was attracted to it.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Just we were working together every day.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
And then Disneyland happened, and then.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Disney Florida, Disney World.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
That was before. Yeah, I think we fought.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
We fought a lot at Disney World.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Disney was there, My mom was there, and he was
there too. He was there, He was there, and that
was the trip that I unders Oh my god, you
it was more than just like when you would say
things to me that I was like, oh, he's what
are we calling it? He's sexually attracted to me, Like,
(26:46):
but you don't think it at that age, but like
that's when I got it because you and I thought,
Remember we had to go on stage and present and
we had a huge blowout fight before.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
We used to have those huge blowout fights for a lot. Yeah,
we were like we and I think a lot of
that was like attraction and a lot of that was
like really coming of age in it all it was
it was a yeah, there was there was a lot
(27:17):
that was going on. So that's so that's always been
the reason why for me. It's like when people go, oh, yeah,
weren't you guys dating, It's like, right, we know, we
like we lived a whole lifetime. We had ten years
of the most insane life that you could possibly have.
So to label it as that, it like belittles to
(27:38):
me what our relationship is. It belittles to me what
my relationship with anyone. When any when anyone is like, oh, yeah,
you lost your cast made It's like no, I lost
my brother or my sister. Like it's a different, it's
deeper than that. So when people when when people talk
to me and they go, oh, I've been devastated. It's like,
(27:59):
I get it your devastation because you lost a character
that you love right watching on the show. I lost
a family member. So it's a different thing, you know. Yeah,
And that label of like oh, boyfriend, girlfriend or you dated,
it's like that's not that almost felt disrespectful to me
(28:21):
because it's like, no, we went through way more than
just what normal people go through when they're dating, Like oh, yeah,
we dated and then we broke up. Like we never
did anything. We never broke up. We never said like
you know, it's just you and me, like let's try,
like we never were. There were never any like boundaries
or rules or anything set to it because it like it.
(28:44):
It showed itself in so many different ways. There were
so many different iterations of it throughout ten years.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Can we go back to Disneyland, yes, disney World nope,
Disneyland correct, the.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Stage that came up out of the ground, Disneyland No, because.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
See I'm going to remember it differently than you. Okay,
so Disneyland. We I don't know why we got like
all it starts from Fox. We had like a night there.
It was like they closed down the park and it
was like people there but it was all like kind
(29:24):
of internal Jenny was there.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Okay, I don't remember it at all. I know it's
so I have those things sometimes where it's like I
have zero memory of that, but please fill me in
because then all the place is irrelevant.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Okay, what happened that night is what I'm referring to. Okay,
we don't remember that.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
No, what.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Shit?
Speaker 2 (29:50):
And you're you're judging me now?
Speaker 3 (29:52):
No no, no, no, no, I'm judging myself for mentioning it.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Say whatever you want.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Do we have sex that the first night we slept together? Yes?
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Oh no, that wasn't that?
Speaker 3 (30:05):
What do you where do you think it was?
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Wasn't it it like Shannon's house? No?
Speaker 3 (30:12):
And I no, I remember it like because I'm oh,
you were only the second guy I ever slept with,
so like obviously I remember it more like eventful, not eventful,
do you know what I mean? Like I remember details. Yeah,
it was like after the disney World trip in Florida.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Disney World was after that.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
It was after that we were at Disneyland.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
It was like a night Wait, so Disneyland is here,
disney World is out there, so which it's at Disneyland here.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
We had sex for the first time at Disneyland, Disneyland
Land in California, California.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Correct, at Disneyland, yeah, really yeah, but in your hotel
Oh my god. Oh okay, so not in Disneyland, like
not on a ride or anything like that, like in
the Disneyland hotel hotel, yes, correct, but like for me, yeah,
it was just like we.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Were fighting so much and I was like, yeah, anyway
that night drunk, uh huh okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Yeah, okay, I mean yeah, because that was kind of
a theme for that early like then, Yeah, like we
were like going out a lot.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
But there was a moment where we were fighting and
we were in the middle of Disneyland and there were
people around. I'm not going to get it right now.
I feel blame.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
I feel so don't feel blame. Don't feel stupid.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
I feel like such a stupid girl.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
No, because you have a better memory than I do,
so good for you.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Okay, So I'm going to hide my face wise while
I tell you this, because you're looking at my true box.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
I'm actually not okay, So you're doing okay.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Thank you, But you know it's not just you. You know,
my memory is very specific, like it's not like I'm
I mean, obviously it was special to me, but I
remember really obscure things.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
So okay.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
So it was in front of.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Space Mountain and was it really okay?
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Oh no, what's the one the mountain mad Horn, Mati Horn.
There was a bunch of people and we were having
our usual fighting and then you said. I was like,
why why are you always getting mad? Why are you
why are we always fighting? And you said, have you
ever thought that maybe I fight with you because I
(32:42):
love you? No? No, I did not, Yeah, and you
were probably saying like I love you, like we're sister
brother like friends. And I was like, oh, he said,
I love you. And then we started kissing.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Wait what I love this story. I feel like I'm
like hearing a story of you and someone else right now.
Oh my god, this is because it's it's kind of epic.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Yeah, I mean, because we were we're it was like
out of a John Hughes.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Movie, Like literally, that's amazing.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Fighting and fighting like you everything the reason is because
I love you. And then you started kissing me in
the middle of public and I was like, oh my god,
there's people and he's kissing me like this is crazy.
And then You're like, do you want to get And
I'm like yeah, and we like and then yeah, I
remember the next morning, I can see, like in the
(33:43):
hotel calling Jenny on the payphone. Would that even be
a thing? No, not payphone, like the we can pick
up the phone and call up to the rooms. They
didn't even have that anymore, right, Yeah, okay? And lobby phone,
lobby phone, Yeah, okay. I was supposed to meet her
(34:03):
and Dan. She was with her first husband Dan at
the time, and yeah, she was the first person. I
was like, you're not gonna believe what happened, Like Brian
and I slept together. She was like what, I'm like, yeah, no, anyway,
what did she say?
Speaker 5 (34:20):
I don't remember, God, I do not so I remember
other times, but I do not remember that time at all.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
I don't know how that's possible.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
I remember because it's me boring.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
I can boobs none. I can only assume.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Wait what so like now they have like I don't
know what's the version of stuff in your bra? Now
girls do, like they have the ones they sell and
the Amazon. But back then, I remember, like I didn't
have my boobs done, and I like we would put
tiss you.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
And I remember, wait, I remember that. Wait it was
me pulling it out. Yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Yes, yes, I remember sleeping with me one time.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
No, I saw I remember all. I remember a lot
of other times, but not that time. But I do
remember that the tissue. Yeah, that's hysterical. Oh my god.
Oh I remember that. That was all I needed. That
was the the visual for me, flashed me right back
(35:32):
into I remember that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Anyway, Wait, I'm so curious, like we have had and
we'll continue to have such a great relationship based on
so many things, because it's a lot of people have
friendships for an eternity, but like it was a combined thing.
And I wonder how, like you can't label it, but
(36:01):
what word? Like I wish there was a wording we
could make.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Up that would family. Here, you're, well, you.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Don't fuck your family, but no, no.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
You don't, not in a healthy family.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
No, I don't know. It's a good one though. Yeah,
it's like it really evolved. Yeah, term, but I don't
know what it would be.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Long long relation we have. We've been in each other's
lives longer than we haven't. You're right, Yeah, it's interesting
to think. Yeah, we were sixteen when we met. We're
now both fifty one.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
I know, wait, did you know that twenty twenty five
will mark the twenty five year wedding anniversary of David
and Donna. That's I just thought about the other day.
The same year though, like, because we went off the
air in two thousand. Yeah, we got married. It was
the final episode. So if you think about it, right,
(37:11):
twenty five years and it's the golden Like, is that
the golden wedding anniversary twenty five? It's supposed to be
gold golden not golden?
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Yeah? Yeah, no, wait, golden is fifty oh okay, right.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
But twenty five is a huge, like a big marker.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Yeah, I forget what that's called. And then diamond is
a is one hundred seventy five? One hundred is ridiculous.
Nobody is married for one hundred years. Most people aren't
alive for one hundred years. You're looking it up right now,
are you.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
It's the silver silver, David, Oh my silver. This is
what's even crazier. Twenty five twenty twenty five will mark
the twenty five wedding anniversary of David and Jonnas silver.
Speaker 5 (37:58):
What the fuck?
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Bam? Look at how that worked.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
That's cool.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Okay, this has been super fun. This has been like
a fun stroll down like Memory Lane and Funck. We
have so many memories. I have so many memories. I
have so many memories of your shitty relationships, like so
many of going.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Well, you don't have to think that hard.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Thanks for listening, everybody. Let's save that one for another episode,
shall we.
Host
Tori Spelling
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